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Tony Stuart

The PM tells a BBC interviewer overnight that New Zealand will become a republic “in my lifetime”.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1571422297252036609

Don’t be so sure about that Ms Ardern. The people of New Zealand will make that decision, not you and your political mates. The PM should be very careful about second-guessing the electorate, especially when the late Queen has yet to be laid to rest!
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December 19, 2021 8:09am
- Blog-aholic
  
  There are times and places for statement like that.
  
  Saying it at this time is pretty arrogant.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:26am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Arrogant, and very disrespectful, having been invited by the Royal Family to attend the Queen’s funeral. It’s not the place to be setting out an anti-Monarchy agenda.
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:50am
    - MCōs
      
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      She was asked by the interviewer and gave a non committal personal response.
      She wasn’t asked if she wanted NZ to become a republic and she didn’t offer an opinion, but an observation.
      I would suggest she bent over backwards to ensure she said nothing controversial.
      Personally I think once this period of transition passes it will become obvious that KCIII is a monarch with little affinity for NZ and more importantly, us for him.
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:39am
      - jv
        
        On RNZ it was Ms Ardern this and Ms Ardern that.
        The Prime Minister of NZ was invited on our behalf, not Ms Ardern.
        
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        September 19, 2022 11:04am
      - JeffW
        
        Any decision to become a republic must be based on institutional considerations not the particular individual holding the post. We shouldn’t dispose of the position of Prime Minister simply because the Princess is an awful person.
        
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        September 19, 2022 11:46am
  - Paulus
    
    She shows both hubris and arrogance – so what is new ?
    
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    September 19, 2022 11:26am
- fernglas
  
  she’s got 50 years to go in her lifetime. I don’t think she’s wrong.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:29am
  - Simon
    
    “she’s got 50 years to go in her lifetime.”
    
    She is vaccinated. We dont know that yet.
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:55am
    - yobi
      
      There is no conclusive proof that she is vaccinated.
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:26am
      - bennerg
        
        Saline looks the same colour as the mRNA jab.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:00am
    - Observer of Life
      
      Simon: Jabbed with what though?
      
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      September 19, 2022 2:21pm
    - jonnycomelately
      
      Hope.
      
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      September 19, 2022 7:55pm
  - RoboRob
    
    Not wrong perhaps but she could have waited until the Queen had been laid to rest. The level of arrogance is strong is this one.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:01am
    - Bullion
      
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      She was responding to a question by an interviewer.
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:14am
      - bjools
        
        So, she is changing the political habit of the past few years?
        Answering a straight question.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:29am
      - crikey
        
        Ardern could, nevertheless, have responded in the way Albernese did when asked a similar question short after the Queen’s death – along the lines of ‘It’s neither the time nor the place to discuss such matters…’
        
        Apart from the arrogance of her remark, she just has no class. She’s an embarrassment.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:44am
      - David Garrett
        
        Bullion: So what? Politicians – particularly those from the major parties – are trained in how to NOT answer direct questions from journos.
        
        If she was too thick to think of a “What I CAN tell you….” type answer she ought to have taken her lead from Albanese, a committed republican, and said “This is not the time to discuss that.” As is most assuredly isn’t.
        
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        September 19, 2022 11:09am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Irrelevant. She could have simply said “Now is not an appropriate time to be discussing that. I am here to honour the memory of the Queen”.
        
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        September 19, 2022 12:48pm
      - Bullion
        
        Don’t get the hate. Ardern needs to be more open and transparent, but NOT like that. We need to tip toe around the topic for how long?(she was very gentle in her language even bringing up both QE2 and KC3 views on the matter).
        
        A lot of you probably aren’t keen on the idea of monarchy as well, don’t believe in birthright etc. Overall this issue is just making a mountain out of a molehill just to be pissy about a PM you don’t like.
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:24pm
  - R
    
    she’s got 50 years to go in her lifetime.
    
    Maybe, maybe not. David Lange died aged 63, while Ardern is 42. But it’s interesting that while children are living in cars, she’s focused on NZ becoming a republic.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:36am
- pdm
  
  Well said Inv.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:37am
- Benedict Yu
  
  She also told the interviewer she saved thousands of lives.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is sickening, and the reporter will repeat the lie for all to believe.
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:50am
  - R
    
    The PM’s comment about saving lives reminds me of the Newcastle Song. She is never going to let a chance go by! And unfortunately nobody in the media is going to ask her for any research to back up her false claim. In fact, lockdowns were terrible policy and likely cost lives. She’s a charlatan.
    
    While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.
    
    https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf
    
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yZSSYqHYjxY
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:55am
    - Don Beckett
      
      ” She’s a charlatan.”
      Yes, just like the one who appointed her in 2017.
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:47am
    - hullkiwi
      
      R to remember the Newcastle son, you are dating yourself. But you are correct.
      
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      September 19, 2022 12:31pm
  - Yvette
    
    A reminder for anyone who missed it –
    “The 5000” saved
    
    … Ardern told the radio station even though the Government had to make some tough decisions in their COVID response, she can look back on them knowing she had saved lives. “One of our critical advisers through this, who’s from the science community, mentioned to me the other day that on their calculation, give or take, possibly 5000 people have been saved by what we had done,” she said.
    
    A vague “expert” calculation, becomes, in the last paragraph, a concrete fact –
    
    “So in those moments, I think of that. Now those 5000 people, they don’t know who they are. “They don’t know that it was them that has been potentially protected by these measures. But I just keep that in my mind. It’s been hard but the flipside would have been even more painful
    
    Is it all in her mind? Or has this been implanted in other minds too?
    At each repeating let them remember
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-says-she-can-see-the-light-as-new-zealand-deals-with-wicked-perfect-storm-cost-of-living-crisis.html
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:03am
    - vant
      
      What would she say to the expert estimate that she killed 3,000 in the first 8 months of this year alone? https://www.nzcpr.com/best-in-show/
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:51am
    - bennerg
      
      What the stats don’t reflect is context. Covid was not a mall shooter – ie it is not a random killer. It was a pickpocket, dealing only to the vulnerable.
      
      That means those that died “due to Covid”, were those who were already close to their demise, and Covid simply tipped them over the edge. This is reflected in the stats that show it was mainly the elderly, and those with comorbidities. ie the same demographic as were dying from seasonal flu, pneumonia etc. Pneumonia has often been referred to as “the old person’s friend”.
      
      What may be an interesting effect is that due to lockdowns, etc, is that many of these people will not have died over the last two years, creating a “backlog”, and over the next 2 – 3 years we may see a rise in deaths “assisted” by seasonal flu etc.
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:12am
  - RoboRob
    
    Saw that this morning and almost choked. We are middle of the road, at best, with our covid ‘life saving’ stats AND the last to open up again.
    
    Say things enough and people will believe them as fact. I know of plenty Labour loving ladies who still think we are world leading on our Covid response with the lowest death rate.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:04am
    - R
      
      Yep, there are more than 90 countries with a lower death rate from Covid than New Zealand. These countries include Australia, Singapore, Japan, China, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Morocco, Venezuela, Egypt, Ethiopia, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Zambia, etc.
      
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:00am
      - Bullion
        
        Which annoys when reporters talk about us having covid policies with countries we like to compare ourselves too, when those countries have had poor outcomes and countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan etc. have much better habits around using masks.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:30am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Its not using masks that kept their death rate down – its the fact that – except for China – they didn’t lock down, and they distributed Ivermectin & Hydroxychloroquine to the population before and during the availability of the experimental gene therary.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:52am
      - Bullion
        
        Don, they didn’t authorise those medications for use against Covid.
        https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-japan-ivermectinandmandate-idUSL1N2TX1GK
        
        Prior to Covid, mask use was very common for people that are ill, don’t want to get ill, combating allergies or even possibly famous people wanting a bit of anonymity.
        
        Yes, they didn’t lock down but effectively the population had the same reduction in mobility measured as lockdowns in places like the USA, and schools were closed for two months during the beginning of the pandemic.
        https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0252468
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:37pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        I wouldn’t be including China on that list. For them, it’s still too early to say.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:23pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Middle of the road? We are one of the worst, Aussie has a huge death toll but we are higher deaths than them per million
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:03am
  - Ruawai
    
    And compared herself to the queen as being one of the few leaders in the world to have a baby while leader.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:56am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Nearly every leader I can think of had children why does anyone think that she is so special? I mean don’t the progressives think that fatherhood is equally responsible for child raising? On reflection probably not.
      
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      September 19, 2022 4:07pm
    - igm
      
      Maybe the first unmarried leader to drop a sprog.
      
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      September 19, 2022 5:57pm
  - Bullion
    
    If you look at excess mortality, we have had less people die overall (of all causes) since the pandemic than expected based on average of previous years – where as countries, like the UK, have had much more people die than expected over the same period.
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:24am
  - Flossie
    
    What particularly got up my nose was her speaking of Aoteoroa New Zealand.
    When did our country’s name change?
    
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    September 19, 2022 12:48pm
    - Paulus
      
      It changed when her Maori Caucus said so !
      
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      September 19, 2022 1:20pm
- Frank the tank
  
  This is hard for Brenda.
  
  She is itching to install her mentor as the First President of New Zimbabwe.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Some of us will stop that commie in her tracks.
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:51am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She has a cheek, the first thing that changes is the flag, and what happened there? She is hated from the cape to the bluff, so she will get the bums rush if she tried to get a consensus to go Republic, and who the hell wants Helen Clark as Prez
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:41am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Who wants H1 as Prez? All the brainwashed who think Jaspinda is just lovely
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:53am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Well, that number is MIQ in the low 30s and many who say they will vote Labour are not too happy
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:08am
    - Paulus
      
      Noted that H1 Clark took Ardern’s First class seat on the first direct non stop flight to New York last Saturday.
      We can assume that she is there to lobby for Cindy, for a job when she gets there on Tuesday, as H1 would be considered to know the ropes and lobby groups.
      Hope so – good luck Helen for sll of us !
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:40am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It only goes to JFK, not Newark, this makes it not such a good flight logistically, originally it was to land at Newark New Jersey, but either it’s too expensive, or we were told on ya bike.
        For the record, Newark is just across the Hudson from Manhattan, more than one hour drive from JFK
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:11am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yep, Jaspinda wanted that seat so she could meet her American fans.
        Instead she was at a funeral – displaying a face that looked like a snacked Arse. Clearly did not want to be there.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:17am
      - fisho
        
        Only the one seat. Hubby didn’t go with her then? 😉
        
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        September 19, 2022 12:56pm
  - Jimbo666
    
    Don’t we have a unicameral government with no checks and balances. If she wants to declare NZ a republic what’s to stop her. She doesn’t need the approval of the voters does she?
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:46am
- Opie
  
  Is it just me or has she had her hair done to look like a royal, while at the same time saying f you to them and we don’t want you?
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, snd it’s pathetic, Princess Anne Ardern
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:14am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Maybe she just came from a fancy dress party and she went as the Princess Royal.
      
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      September 19, 2022 1:12pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I wonder if she could articulate the benefits that New Zealand would enjoy.
  
  Here is a really funny suggestion to a journalist. “Ms Ardern, could you please tell us what you think a ‘republic’ is?”
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:09am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Or… “Which part of the Treaty of Waitangi commits the Crown to a partnership with Maori?”
    
    The point I am making is that any journalist could ask simple questions that would cause the PM great difficulties and expose her litany of falsehoods.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:12am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “Ms Ardern, do you understand the term “excess mortality”?”
      
      I could do this all day 🙂
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:47am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      The only partnership is two people coming together as one nation, it doesn’t mean we reinvent the bloody wheel cause Ardern
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:16am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahahahaha, she wouldn’t have a clue, yet she will be an ardent Democrats supporter
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:15am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I saw the interview. I suspect if Labour need the Greens to form the next Government one of the Greens conditions will be a republic. They could pass any Act knowing it would be very difficult or impossible to reverse it. Like 3 Waters there will be no consultation no referendum. These are rat cunning arseholes.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:13am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep , that goes back to the question and how she answered it , says an awful lot about these ‘top down , dicating ,internationalist socialists ”
    
    The right answer from any genuine liberal democrat would be ;
    ‘Not the right time for that question , but in any event that is a decision for the people of New Zealand to make , so I won’t speculate , and I’m not in any position to anyway”
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:58am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Nothing bloody rat cunning about these dictatorial scum
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:17am
- Close Hen Counters
  
  She is an absolute national embarrassment and disgrace – the taxpayers have paid how much money to cart her and her delegation over there? Her innate ability to get the optics so wrong really is incredible
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:21am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She thinks she is doing marvellous
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:17am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  That’ll go down well with her Maori friends, since last time I looked, they have an agreement with the Crown.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:51am
  - kowtow
    
    We all do .
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:59am
    - David Garrett
      
      kowtow: No, “We” don’t…the agreement – which if it was anything was a treaty of cession – was between Queen Vic, her heirs and successors, and a bunch of Maori chiefs, by no means all of them.
      
      The so called Treaty remains what it was called in 1875 by Prendergast CJ: “A legal nullity”
      
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      September 19, 2022 11:17am
      - kowtow
        
        We’re all subjects of the Crown , irrespective of that document .
        
        We’re all “stake holders” in our constitutional arrangements , irrespective of race .
        
        That’s where I’m coming from.
        
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        September 19, 2022 12:24pm
      - Cassandra
        
        Totally correct, DG, as usual. Prendergast CJ also – you’re in good company.
        
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        September 19, 2022 1:34pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Wow, I didn’t know that! So our very existence in NZ and all that which goes with it has been based on a Legal Nullity?
        What about all that money we paid out under Treaty Obligations, can we claim that back as its taking and giving was based on nothing? I can’t see that happening eh?
        BTW, what legal weight (if any) is given to the Prendergast determination?
        Forgive my legal nativity here, I’m not of the legal profession.
        
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        September 19, 2022 1:54pm
  - Paulus
    
    She must be concerned as it is being touted that all the Maori Seats which are effectivelyLabour will go to a more powerful Te Pati Maori Party.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:23pm
- backster
  
  Well she demonstrated her patriotism by imitating Princess Anne”s hairdo.
  
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  September 19, 2022 11:23am
  - David Garrett
    
    backster: Yes, I’ve just seen that…fucking pathetic.
    
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    September 19, 2022 12:22pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  Banana republic? Yes, I agree with her
  
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  September 19, 2022 12:05pm
- jonnycomelately
  
  She is absolutely making the very most of her time in the international spotlight and exploiting this globally sad event. Can almost imagine her inner thoughts counting up her expected points rise in the polls.
  
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  September 19, 2022 7:48pm
Warren

Just a simple question on Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister and whether she is trying to influence the General Election in 2013.
It is obvious by the way she speaks on her meetings with King Charles that they have discussed a visit down under and we all know Jacinda Ardern hates losing and will stop at nothing to get a advantage so don’t rule it out.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/queen-elizabeth-death-king-charles-nz-visit-likely-pm-jacinda-ardern-meeting-warm/LD4B4JTWEWFINX76LJ62V3HSHI/
The polls are starting to turn against our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern there is even talk in the media that some of those that will be first to lose there seat are very unhappy so don’t rule out the prospect of a trip down under before the next Election.
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September 19, 2022 8:01am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh I’m not too sure if our Dear PM will risk exposing the undercurrent of discontent with the monarchy- Crown.
  
  It will be interesting to see whether Ardern weathers Waitangi Celebrations this coming February.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:10am
  - tui47
    
    I seem to recall there is a traditional rule that means monarchy cannot visit during an election year in case it is assumed they favour the current Government? I imagine if there is JA is not aware of it. She seems to be unaware of most rules regarding behaviour of her Cabinet Ministers and the Cabinet manual.
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:26am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Rules? What are they? Rules are for the peasants, not me. Do you know who I am?
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:06am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        No rules for dictators
        
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        September 19, 2022 9:10am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You are correct, Labour went ape shit when When William and Harry came to the World Cup during 2011 election year, even though they were only allowed in on a supporting capacity
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:10am
    - Ghost
      
      No such rule, if you look back on previous royal visits a number of them were in the year of an election. The last one was in 2014 with William and Kate. Charles and the queen have both come in election years.
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:50am
  - pdm
    
    Maggy – apparently King Charles was heckled in Wales.
    
    Could that happen in New Zealand?
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:40am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      There’ll be more than heckling, I’m afraid.
      
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      September 19, 2022 8:43am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        They will heckle Cindy but she will blame Charles the turd
        
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        September 19, 2022 8:55am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        A 21 bum salute?
        
        Tips hat to Dun Mihaka.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:28pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      At a holiday soccer match
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:19am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is perhaps a convention rather than a rule. Anyway I doubt that Charles would boost the mood much. If she could get William and Kate maybe. But the days when any royal visit sparked a frenzy here are long gone I think.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:03am
    - Nukuleka
      
      You contradict yourself with your ‘maybe’. There is no doubt that a visit from William and Kate would indeed spark a frenzy.
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:08am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Yeah you could be right. Anyway according to this report the whole gang is coming. 🙁
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/queen-elizabeth-death-royal-visit-to-nz-on-cards-as-king-charles-iii-camilla-prince-william-princess-catherine-and-the-kids-look-to-tour-australia/UCLZCWVN262ZKFOZDRX2I7L7HU/
        
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        September 19, 2022 9:46am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda will risk anything and everything that she thinks will help to retain power. She is not thinking rationally, she is thinking like say Robert Magabe. Their mental health consumes them, power is all that matters.
    Fuck the peasants.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:03am
  - Paulus
    
    Her Waitangi show will be cancelled as she cannot get there because of fog.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:25pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jaspinda will want to show Charlieboy all of the good stuff she has done.
  Oh, wait
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:36am
- Warren
  
  Should be 2023
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:43am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Noticed this little segment on 3ewes on Sat night. [ 2:40 – 2:56]. Simply can’t do without her “podium” with the specially setup 3ewes & 1 ooze microphones.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:44am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The law states no Royal visits in election year, she first care about our laws as a dictator, but Charles’s 111 is going to Aussies soon, do a last resort she might be tacked onto the end of that visit. Her support has more than turned, she has lost Labour 35% of their support, all because of ineptitude and failure
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:46am
  - plc
    
    Citation please
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:07am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You do not bloody need citations, go look it up, it has been mentioned several times during the last few elections, there was heel to pay by Labour when Harry snd William came to the World Cup, they weee only here as England supporters, go back snd watch the hate and venom at the time from rotten Labour
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:22am
      - Ghost
        
        There is no such law, and as I have shown plenty of royal visits have taken place in an election year.
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:26am
      - Ghost
        
        Just to add from parliaments website
        
        If the Queen was present in New Zealand in an election year she would be advised by the Government (usually the Prime Minister) when to bring the Parliamentary term to an end.
        
        https://www.parliament.nz/en/visit-and-learn/parliament-in-election-year/elizabeth-ii-and-our-elections/
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:40am
      - plc
        
        So you just make stuff up….okay.
        
        That is pointed out to you – politely – by asking for citation, rather than saying you’re talking crap…..and you double down and then try to obfuscate.
        
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        September 19, 2022 11:33am
  - Ghost
    
    There is no such law, and both the queen and Charles have visited in election years. The last one to come in an election year was in 2014 when William and Kate came.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:52am
  - Ghost
    
    Just to add the Queen came to New Zealand in 1966, general election was in November that year
    
    Both Prince Charles and the Queen came to New Zealand at different times in 1981, the election was in November that year, a few months after the queens visit
    
    In 1990 the queen and Edward came to New Zealand, the election was October that year.
    
    Princess Anne came to New Zealand in 1999, the election was November that year
    
    In 2002 the queen and princess Anne cam to New Zealand, that year the election was in July
    
    In 2005 prince charles, prince william and prince andrew came to New Zealand, the election was in September
    
    Princess Anne came to New Zealand in 2008 the election. Was in November
    
    Prince William came to New Zealand I 201a the election was in November
    
    Prince William, Katherine and George came to New Zealand in 2014, the election was in November that year
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:03am
- RoboRob
  
  It wont be the royals, it will be MAJOR bribes announced. At a guess at least a free 2nd year at university and write off of all or some of student loans. Perhaps topped up with free cell phones and internet for low income earners (these are human rights after all). Of course a promise to reduce rents and houses for all, for the thickos to believe.
  
  National should be pre-emptively trying to head this sort of shit off. They should mention in every interview that ‘Labour will be offering unaffordable bribes to voters next year to avoid an obvious defeat’. This will make it hard for Labour to roll out said bribes without everyone groaning and thinking ‘here come the bribes’.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:11am
  - Hebe123
    
    I think they will try to bring in a rent freeze just before the election. I know heaps of people would support that bc they don’t understand basic economics, including plenty of people on the so called right.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:45am
    - RoboRob
      
      I guess you can be right wing without understanding basic economics 🙂
      
      A rent freeze would be disasterous for NZ. but on the plus side, very easy for a National govt to roll back (as opposed to cancelling student debt).
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:01am
- Paulus
  
  On curent polling most Labour List seats are gone already.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    New bunch of kiddies on the back benches – if they can be bothered
    
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    September 19, 2022 5:12pm
- Jimbo666
  
  20+ plus will lose their livelihood at the next elections, no wonder the are sour and starting to squirm!
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:48am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Someone has copied Princess Anne’s hairstyle, not mentioning any names.
So pathetic
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September 19, 2022 8:08am
- Ruawai
  
  Well she does always like to dress in theme for any major headline, head scarf in Christchurch, civil defense jacket for Nelson floods and now princess Anne. Bit like Trudeau who also likes to dress in theme.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Shut up, or I will throw up!
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:12am
  - marcw
    
    I’m picking a tiara for Ardern at the funeral – they are us.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:59am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, childish as ever, dress ups, that’s all this vulgar woman does, note black dress all week
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Play school TV1 breakfast they have been black stuff all week. I have a black tie and a white shirt to wear with my dark blue suit. Big deal.
    I would only wear that black tie at the funeral.
    
    Yes I know, but the speaker of the house likes play school TV1 breakfast. Keep the queen bee happy and the whole hive is happy
    
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    September 19, 2022 5:17pm
- Flossie
  
  And it’s not very flattering is it! But then again, that silk purse sow’s ear thing….
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:00am
- Loddenthinks
  
  She looked like a bag lady yesterday so anything more formal is a vast improvement, albeit like putting lipstick on a pig.
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:56am
Maggie Pie

THE HORRID HEADLINE @ 7:24am TODAY

‘Tyre Iron-wielding man attacks bystanders in Auckland CBD’

So why should normal people have to live in fear of scum like this?

WATCH….

https://twitter.com/WorldLatinHoney/status/1570949556715794434

The usual suspects 🙁
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September 19, 2022 8:12am
- Nickc2
  
  The Courts are busy soaking Buss Tickets as we speak. He will also get any sentence reduced by about fifty percent due to childhood difficulties.
  However, I seriously doubt there will be any charges bought due to skin colour and Kelvin Davis’s fewer offenders in prison dictates.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:33am
- Rodney Hide
  
  Agreed. But on a tiny point is that hyphenation the best? I find it confusing. Perhaps tyre-iron wielding or tyre-iron-wielding.
  
  I am obviously ennured to reported violence that i puzzle over hyphenation.
  
  Rodney Hide
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:34am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is not a tyre iron, hyphenated or not. It is a small axe.
    
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    September 19, 2022 8:44am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Different episode, but could have been made clearer in the post.
      
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      September 19, 2022 11:18am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    There must be a hyphen between iron and wielding as the compound adjective iron-wielding acts as a modifier of the noun man.
    
    The tool Tyre Iron is usually spelt as 2 separate words.
    
    So the headline Tyre Iron-wielding man is correct.
    
    But, I agree, to avoid confusion, tyre-iron-wielding could also have been used.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:10am
    - Rodney Hide
      
      Thank you Maggy. I struggle with grammar despite my best efforts. However, i learnt a lot from GV Carey’s Mind the Stop which I heartily recommend to all and took from his work that the hyphen should be used to make comprehension easier and that was my starting point. I also recall that he wrote in the foreword that even in these dark days a correct stop was important. His work was published in WW2. And Winstin Churchill was a stickler for clear and correct English even in 1940.
      
      I suggest a demand for clear and correct English would fix a lot of ils because sloppy writing allows sloping thinking.
      
      Thank you
      
      Rodney
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:47am
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Is “sloping thinking” what one does when considering the menu at a Chinese takeaway?
        
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        September 19, 2022 10:16am
      - Dave
        
        ‘[S]loping thinking’ occurs when a heavily biased person always leans to one ideological side or the other, or when autocorrect thinks it knows better than the writer.
        
        On the topic of clear and correct English, I used to grumble about sloppy writing in Internet posts but, being so often guilty of it, now I’m inured to it.
        
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        September 19, 2022 11:42am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, some clown asked if the guy used a McHatchet.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:41am
  - RoboRob
    
    The courts now issue a McHachet and Netflix with every home detention issue. You can upsize to the uber eats package as required. The tax payer pays for all of this, of course.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Horrid does not know the difference between a tyre iron and a tomahawk.
  What time do the children go home and adults start work there?
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:42am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    What? The twitter is from NYC with a axe, the attack in Auckland is with a Tyre Iron — two different incidents…
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:16am
- Frank the tank
  
  They’ll get home detention after the culture report shows they were abused as a child.
  
  This is New Zimbabwe.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:42am
  - Ruawai
    
    Surely most criminals will now get a reduction in their sentence as most criminals have had a bad upbringing.
    
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    September 19, 2022 12:27pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Btw, it is New York, not Auckland CBD, or have I missed something?
  Jesus, where do these idiots come from?
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:44am
Cassandra

I’ve just been in hospital, an operation which went well but I had a minor problem so had to be transferred from private to public. Then tested positive for Covid so banished to a side room (felt like a dungeon in the middle of the night). Nobody comes near you then in case they end up infecting the whole hospital! Not a great place to be when you’re about 10 hours post surgery and feeling pretty awful. Anyway, eventually the chief doc, a wonderful surgeon, concluded that the Covid was a hangover from July (I’d had 3 negative Rat tests, one pos PCR) and I was set free. I was struck by the importance of Filipino nurses to Auckland Hospital. Of the umpteen nursing staff I saw during my days there all but one Samoan and one European were from the Philippines. They are not Kiwis, so conversation is not the same, but we depend on them.
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September 19, 2022 8:18am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  You’re COVID be is from July?
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:01am
- RoboRob
  
  Probably lucky to have tested positive. You got a private room, a luxury in a public hospital 🙂
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:15am
  - Mummy
    
    I was shifted to a private room in the public hospital in April 2020 during the first level 3 lockdown. My crime was a rather loud conversation on the phone with my daughter in Australia about how pathetic the whole covid thing was and how people were being scared witless by the government, and the lady in the next bed who was the scardest of them all complained to management and nec minit I had a private room with a view and my own ensuite.
    
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    September 19, 2022 4:36pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You would be better off at home. You have Covid, not leprosy
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:15am
Thought Criminal

Prediction. Jacinda will offer to give 10k each to people with student loans to help buy the next election.
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September 19, 2022 8:36am
- Swifty
  
  I wouldn’t rule that out for a minute.
  
  And Labour will use exactly the same arguments as the Dems have used – that it’s removing an ‘injustice’.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:42am
- pdm
  
  TC – probably even to those that only owe $5,000 or less.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:42am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    And have died, or left the country, or paid it back….
    
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    September 19, 2022 11:20am
- RoboRob
  
  Lol, just predicted something similar in a response above. I guess it all remains to be seem how popular sleepy Joes bribe is in the US.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  More than 10K. She is desperate for votes and attention.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:17am
- Ruawai
  
  If Labour did this they would have to offer $10,000 cash to those who have paid off their loans early, otherwise this would be an injustice.
  
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  September 19, 2022 12:31pm
  - Hebe123
    
    No it wouldn’t cos those that have paid it off already we’re privileged along with those who didn’t take loans.//
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:48pm
cas

I see H 1 was on the inaugural Air NZ flight to New York. She is obviously doing things in connection to the UN – like smoothing the way for Jacinda???
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September 19, 2022 8:37am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The rotten toadie tried to say the government should stop a bank selling their private art collection, who does these Marxist think they are
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:03am
  - Jimbo666
    
    She bought back her own signed art work and burnt it! Says much for her attitude to art works!
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:52am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I don’t think it was H1’s art. Just signed something that was not hers.
      Did the same as Prime Minister, signed off Govt documents that actually belonged to ‘we the people’
      
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      September 19, 2022 5:46pm
- plc
  
  I can’t help feel that deep down inside H1 is not just a little disappointed with our PM. She probably thought she was a bright young thing but time and experience have shown that the intellectual depth not there….rat cunning though
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Cunning as a shithouse rat is my term.
    Depth of thinking is just not there, just a shining surface.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:19am
  - Squeek
    
    The rat cunning is all that H1 would have noticed in her.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:06pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yes, H1 has thought her when to run.
      Count the money when the dealings done
      
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      September 19, 2022 5:55pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        taught taught ffs
        
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        September 19, 2022 5:56pm
- rockape
  
  I truly hope so. Then I hope Nz withdraws from the UN.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Why is NZ financing those wars? We get nothing back. Oh Wait, we send UN money., but NZ Defence gets paid for NZ Defence guys we supply?
    United Nations pay NZ per soldier that is in action?
    Please correct me.
    
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    September 19, 2022 6:00pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I hope her bags were amongst the lost luggage
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:34pm
RockyJ

“Coming marine heatwave may be one of NZ’s worst” proclaims Jamie Morton. This scary scenario is based on rising ocean temperatures around NZ. (Behind a paywall, sorry).
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/weather-coming-marine-heatwave-may-be-one-of-nzs-worst/EYMYOQR2X2U3HPA3WXFHFC3GDY/

What Jamie ignores is the clear evidence that La Niña governs the planetary climate at the moment and is expected to last into summer. This results in counter balancing ocean cold zones in the eastern Pacific and tropical latitudes.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/10/la-nina-conditions-continue-across-the-equatorial-pacific/

Once again the media, with complicit local climate scientists, are cherry picking data to scare the kiddies and other vulnerable populations.
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September 19, 2022 8:39am
- amospicton
  
  Yes and there was an item on TV 1 news/propaganda last night about the risk of Antarctica disappearing due to climate change!! Right, it’s going to melt not just the ice but the rock as well…..and 10m sea level rise. Absolute tosh.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:09am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    We have been warned of this many times before and it never happens – ain’t that right Al Gore?
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:22am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      You have pointed out a rather inconvenient truth.
      
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      September 19, 2022 11:23am
  - Nickc2
    
    It’s nothing a financial contribution won’t fix eh? //
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Once the ice has gone we can start drilling for oil. There is a huge oilfield there.
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:40am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Which tells you what?? That many millions of years ago there were vast amounts of forest & plants there. That is what oil comes from. Also demonstrates the changing of earth’s polarity.
      
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      September 19, 2022 11:19am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Stored energy
        
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        September 19, 2022 11:54am
      - kowtow
        
        Don’t have to go that far .
        
        Plenty here , on the beach .
        
        ‘A massive wash-up of submarine coal is due to natural erosion, a local expert says.
        Clutha Leader was contacted on Thursday by two members of the Balclutha Walking Group who had come across slabs of fossil fuel — “some the size of tables” — during a long walk on the beach below Wangaloa domain three days earlier.’
        
        https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-otago/submarine-coal-washes-beach
        
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        September 19, 2022 12:29pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @kowtow.@kowtow, Are they sure it is coal and not obsidian? (volcanic glass, the rockhounds cut, shape and polish it)
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ Steve Otto
        
        It will be coal… Part of the Kaitangata Coal Field.
        
        I’m unaware of any naturally occurring obsidian in the South Island.
        
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        September 19, 2022 3:07pm
  - graham
    
    amospicton, I sometimes can’t help but wonder if these people ever think about what they’ve just said.
    
    The stupidity of claiming that “Antarctica will disappear” is pretty bad, but I think Daniel Faitaua claiming that the heat in Englad was going to MELT railway lines comes a close second. Right, so 40 degree heat is going to melt STEEL railway lines …
    
    To be fair to Mr Faitaua, he wasn’t the only one claiming this. Take this headline for example:
    
    Railways around the world are literally melting — here’s why they can’t take the heat
    
    Railways are LITERALLY melting. Uhh … really?
    
    I despair.
    
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    September 19, 2022 11:33am
    - Don Beckett
      
      The sun must be extremely hot in that particular micro-climatic area – like around 900 dg. C. 😆
      
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      September 19, 2022 12:53pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      To be fair to dopey Daniel, the Brits complain about it every summer. The reality is it is combination of factors, including:
      1. The steel for British rails are tempered for a lower atmospheric temperature range cica -5°C to 25°C (a more usual temperature range;
      2. Maintenance of track is not what it should be, with high usage and high heat, the track does not get a chance to recover, and the chance of track fracturing under higher temperatures.
      
      So, it is not track melting, but track breaking they are concerned about.
      
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      September 19, 2022 8:23pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Marine heatwave? Being someone who loves the beach and being out on the water, I’m all for it. After all, a good dollop of warm water has zero effect on anything in Tahiti.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Same at Waikiki, Hawaii. It was 31 deg, but the sea temp was 33 deg. Jump in the water to cool down? LOL
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:41am
    - Dave
      
      If you are writing from personal experience, I bow to your superior knowledge.
      
      Otherwise, since water cooling is much more efficient than air cooling, which I think is why we sweat, and normal body temperature is from 34.4 to 37.6, is it possible that 33 degree water temperature does cool better than 31 degree air temperature? Being neither a physicist or physiologist, I don’t know.
      
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      September 19, 2022 12:18pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        In the northern Cooks with 100% humidity I can confirm nothing cooled, even in a howling westerly, sea or air.
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:09pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I did not go for a swim. The notice about it was on a notice board at the Aston Waikiki Beach Hotel Concierge. Just somethin I had never seen before.
        I guess 33 deg water would have a refrigeration effect when drying. Truly, I don’t know either.
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:24pm
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        I can reliably report water temps of 30+ in Moorea, Dave. And it still feels cooling to be in.
        
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        September 19, 2022 3:27pm
    - RockyJ
      
      Over July/August I was in Rarotonga. The average day temperature was no more than 22C. The sea was cold. In June Raro reported its coldest day eva at 17C.
      
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      September 19, 2022 5:21pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Sky Aus posted a YT article about some study that shows there is _no_ ‘climate emergency’.
  YT vid here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7P4zyxM8zc&t=51s
  
  The study can be found here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1140/epjp/s13360-021-02243-9.pdf
  
  It is not difficult to wade through.
  In it’s conclusion it states this: “In conclusion on the basis of observational data, the climate crisis that, according to many sources, we are experiencing today, is not evident yet”
  The people that twist their words in order to make us believe we’re in the middle of some emergency are not our friends. Listening to that twaddle about 10m sea level rise on 1News last night, as though it was something anybody alive today might experience, made me want to spit.
  What’s the standard line we hear nowadays? – something like “as the world warms, will get worse.” This is another way of saying hasn’t gotten worse.
  
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  September 19, 2022 12:18pm
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Hey, part of my post was removed. I had some text between angle brackets, which must have been removed.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:10pm
    - Ghost
      
      Mods typically leave a note in your post if they remove something
      
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      September 19, 2022 1:36pm
      - Chris Nisbet
        
        More likely to have been removed automatically.
        The text between the brackets that was removed was just “insert bad weather event”.
        
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        September 19, 2022 1:53pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        Angle brackets signal HTML instructions. Avoid.
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:05pm
Harry Knuts

I’m all for not have te reo compulsory in schools as it should be a choice for the individual, but it looks like Peeni’s reason is that it’s more along the lines of just wanting to keep it exclusive for Maori only.
Reading between the lines he would rather not have any other group outside of Maori speaking Maori backed up by iwi leaders – https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/government-minister-peeni-henare-doesn-t-want-compulsory-te-reo-m-ori-in-schools.html
“He said most of the feedback he’d received from Māori was they treasured te reo – and didn’t want to give it to just anyone.”
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September 19, 2022 8:41am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Well it stands to reason if it is spoken widely by everyone it no longer remains a treasure, becomes liable to be corrupted and they lose control of ‘their’ language.
  
  His statements run extremely counter to the whole Maori Language Week, the changing of everything public into Maori and a large amount of money being spent over decades to encourage its use……
  
  It is either hypocracy, idiocy, arrogance or a combo of all three.
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:55am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    Exactly my thoughts. completely contradictory to last week’s Maori language week. To the well-meaning it would be confusing. But for me I’m taking this as a complete leave pass to not talk nor be able to read Maori as I do not have permission according to Peeni. I’m fine with that.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:21am
  - Paulus
    
    Has Maori Language week finished ? – on TV last evening it is still in full flow.
    Or does a week not start on a Sunday ?
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:33pm
    - Ghost
      
      it ran from the 12th until the 18th
      
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      September 19, 2022 1:41pm
- Opie
  
  “They” are welcome to it.
  
  I won’t read it, hear it or say it. Not one word ever. The more it’s forced on people the bigger joke it becomes
  
  Let’s hope they have finally tired of the language being bastardised for political and personal feel goods and keep it for the area of nz they want to split off into full Maori control as per the he puapua guide book.
  
  There was another famous guide book a while back… that didn’t end so well either
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:00am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Too many white fullas showing them up on how to speak Te lingo
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:05am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Dead languages are far easier to control.
    
    If you give Te Reo to the masses, they will do with it as they choose, and you might not like the way the language evolves once it returns to life.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:29pm
- RoboRob
  
  Lol, if the schools are as good at teaching Te Reo as they are teaching ‘English’, no one is going to be able to speak it anyway.
  
  As Te Reo is an official language and English is not (how the #@#k does that happen), perhaps the schools should be droping English and replacing it with Te Reo and Sign? The question is though, when you sign are you signing Maori words?
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:19am
  - bennerg
    
    Did you not see this Press release earlier this year:
    
    1 April 2022
    
    Labour Announces Additional Grant to Maori Language Commission
    
    Taiaha hā! Taiaha hā! – Te kairangi o te reo hoki mai ki taku tikanga, ki taku taumata, ki taku reo, ki taku ao. He reo whai tikanga, he reo whai mana, he reo whai tangata koe. Ki te whāngaihia te reo Māori he ao tēnā, ki te kore he whākorekore kē te hua ki te ao. E rere taku reo kia mau koe ki te tangata.
    
    The 50th anniversary of the presentation of the Māori language petition and Māori Language Day will be commemorated this year, Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni and Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today, with a special new fund to enable further engagement with the wider community.
    
    Cabinet resolved this week to grant an additional 15 Million dollars to fund the development of a Maori version of the New Zealand Sign Language. This development will be managed by Massey University Institute of Education. Professor Alison Kearney, Head of the Institute, was excited to be given the task for this development, “as it will create a third official language for New Zealand, alongside Te Reo and Standard Sign Language”.
    
    She added, “this will mean a greater engagement with the Maori community, and fulfil our Treaty obligations”.
    
    Carmel Sepuloni said “the Government continues to recognise the importance of significant events such as this anniversary, which has shaped our history, Te Ao Māori and Aotearoa New Zealand”.
    
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    September 19, 2022 12:25pm
    - Nickc2
      
      How many deaf Maoris are there? I can’t say I have seen/known any. This is virtue signalling crap that we taxpayers will be footing the bill for long after this bunch of crooks has been given the arse card from Govt.
      Once we have signers in English, Tongan, Niuean, Samoan, Hindi, Cantonese, and Mandarin, there won’t be enough room on our TV Screens for programme viewing.
      Never fear though, the NZ Taxpayer will foot the bill eh?
      
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      September 19, 2022 1:28pm
    - C-Town
      
      Isn’t sign language meant to be universal and understood all over the world? It is a language in itself. Does this mean that when someone learns Te Reo sign language, they won’t be understood by the rest of the sign language users in the world?
      
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      September 19, 2022 2:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Haere ra to Moari language week. When is the next one? Must be something to fill in before Christmas?
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:28am
  - RoboRob
    
    Pride month?
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  He clearly comes across as an extremist , exclusivist , ethno nationalist .
  
  Where’s the Media Pardy outrage .
  
  Paddy Gower to scower the country , Cannabis Chloe to grandstand against the Chief Plod etc etc
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:08am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Didn’t “we” give them the written form of the language, as well as around 15% of the words now in the lexicon?
  
  Pukaru me!
  
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  September 19, 2022 11:24am
- Ruawai
  
  Does that mean I can’t speak French unless a French person gifts it to me??
  
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  September 19, 2022 12:37pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Yes and the same with Greek – although i would advise caution if that were the case. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:13pm
ClanMcleod

“You will eat ze bugs and be happy.”

1000 Aussie schools selling bug chips in their tuck shops. Listen to the patronising, brainwashing adult driving the message in to these kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Jx5CwY18s
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September 19, 2022 8:43am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I was at the pools over the weekend. You get a wide cross section of Christchurch society.
  
  Two guys who were vegans were discussing the evil of dairy cows. They had studied the issue and had concluded that New Zealand could ditch the cows and become the world’s leading exporter of cannabis. I was saddened to learn that a friend of one of them had recently died of a brain tumour caused by drinking coca cola.
  
  Down a bit from the vegans we had a friendly guy with no front teeth. He had extensive facial tatoos including the phrase “Ready for Death”. My partner speculated that it might be the gang equivalent for the “Do not resuscitate” cards that some folk carry. The thing is that Mr Frightening No Teeth was accompanied by a well groomed, tall blond girlfriend with no tatoos. Looked totally normal. My partner tells me that she may be a slave. 😢
  
  Welcome to New Zealand. These people vote 😀
  
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  September 19, 2022 8:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    There is da bros and da hoes
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:06am
  - pdm
    
    BY – a telling last line!!!!
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:11am
  - MCōs
    
    Making a lot of assumptions there, Benedict.
    Did you ask the guy why he was missing some teeth?
    I lost a front tooth due to a mishap at school. Fortunately when it finally had to come out a few years later I could afford the horrendous dental bill.
    
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    September 19, 2022 9:44am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I did not make any assumptions. I just said he had no front teeth and had extensive facial tattoos including “ready for death”.
      
      BTW if you lose your teeth in an accident or an assault, doesn’t ACC front up?
      
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      September 19, 2022 9:50am
      - Hebe123
        
        I can answer that. I lost a permanent front tooth as a kid falling off my bike. ACC funded a filling type replacement at the time and twice since when it has become damaged (as it’s only meant to be temporary). They will not fund a permanent repair/crown.
        
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        September 19, 2022 1:53pm
      - Ghost
        
        I broke my front teeth in half in primary school, ACC have covered every time they have needed to be capped again, according to the dentist they are covered for life.
        
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        September 19, 2022 1:57pm
      - Colville
        
        My Bro fell over and broke 3 front teeth. Full ceramic implants on ACC. $20K ish.
        
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        September 19, 2022 2:47pm
      - MCōs
        
        The time between my mishap and the tooth requiring extraction was some years. Maybe ten.
        For that matter ACC wasn’t going when it happened.
        
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        September 19, 2022 3:26pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “Did you ask the guy why he was missing some teeth?”
      
      Agh that would be “No”.
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:10am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ask the guy why he was missing front teeth and he would make you look just like him
      
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      September 19, 2022 11:58am
  - kowtow
    
    Sounds like you visited a spa in an open prison .
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:11am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      As I said – cross section of society from Fendalton mums to gang members. The Killer Beez were there last week. A few weeks ago the Argentina rugby squad was there.
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:45am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    No need to ask how you knew they were vegans – as the joke goes, they tell you.
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:14pm
cas

Yes Minister was at it again last night about the bloat in bureaucracy of both central government and local government. One solution, offered by the actor who played Private Pike, was to make all officials responsible for a new project have a list of failure criteria. I think we should adopt that here. It would be very open and transparent.
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September 19, 2022 8:46am
- Harry Knuts
  
  “was to make all officials responsible for a new project have a list of failure criteria”
  we already have it – it’s called the Labour govt and any Mayor in NZ that is Labour aligned then they are well and truly excelling at failure. Auckland is a prime example.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:58am
Warren

If you want any more proof that Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister dropped the traffic light system because of the polls look no further than this Talbot- Mills Labour internal poll to prove the fact as it was taken days before the Taxpayer Curia Poll.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/latest-political-poll-points-to-tight-race-for-national-and-labour-with-right-and-left-blocs-even/4DB2VOP7W4XVSRWGRZ2N7KZP4U/
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September 19, 2022 8:56am
- Ra Henare
  
  Warren, Small correction-dont you just hate the small print.
  
  Not an internal Labour poll but a commercial poll run by Talbot Mills. SAME company that polls for labour.
  
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  September 19, 2022 11:53am
RoboRob

Got my council voting papers in the mail yesterday. By some strange coincidence I also received brochures for my local ‘Labour’ candidate and what may be a ‘Green’ candidate for ECan. I know it could just be a coincidence but I seem to recall this happened last election too. Some Labour supporting council staffers ensuring this?
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September 19, 2022 8:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Labour probably getting a free ride for their propaganda. They like ‘free’ stuff
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:35am
- a3kidlady
  
  Me too, I need advice though because voting papers also arrived for the 3 kids – who no longer reside with us or even in Auckland.
  Would it be wrong to vote for them??
  I’m sure there are many others in the same boat receiving voting papers for the kids that have moved out and not bothered changing their postal address, because snail mail is so irrelevant to them!!
  
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  September 19, 2022 1:07pm
  - Hebe123
    
    Legally wrong, morally…… 🙂
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:54pm
  - Harry Knuts
    
    reminds me of this Labour fellow – https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/labour-candidate-sentenced-over-electoral-fraud/5HDX5JMPN7CUKI3LUCFOF4MWHE/
    
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    September 19, 2022 5:59pm
- Paulus
  
  In Tauranga we do not have an Election as Mahuta cancelled it and appointed Commissioners and now extended for three more years.
  Called Democracy remember.
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  September 19, 2022 1:38pm
Rusty

Jacinda thinks NZ will become a republic in her lifetime?

Maybe, but not during her political lifetime.

Is there any enthusiasm now or in the near future from Nzers for such a discussion?

In a way Jacinda and her party have shot themselves in the foot with their 3 waters/ He Pua pua proposals which will eventually lead to Nzers demanding a referendum on it.

If that referendum says no (which it will ) then any referendum on Nz becoming a republic would seem highly unlikely in the next 5-10 years simply for the reason the people of this country will not trust a govt in a republic!
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September 19, 2022 9:20am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Perhaps she’s hoping if she says it enough publicly in interviews then it will gain its own momentum.
  
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  September 19, 2022 9:59am
ClanMcleod

Dr John Campbell commenting again on the rising all cause mortality numbers that aren’t covid deaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk&t=639s
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September 19, 2022 9:32am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Holy crap. In July, 53,000 excess deaths in the EU.
  
  And yet there is nothing in the media.
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:20am
- Benedict Yu
  
  He is being threatened by Youtube that his channel will be taken down.
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:21am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The thing is he is not alleging that the vaccines are killing all these people, indeed that would be implausible. He points to other likely factors:
    
    – Post lockdown effects, social, psychological, psychiatric
    
    – Reluctance to access health care during covid
    
    – Delayed diagnosis of cancers etc.
    
    However his point is that governments and the media are silent on this and it requires urgent investigation. It is happening in New Zealand.
    
    Now I can think of two reasons why Governments would be terrified of such an investigation (looking at you Jacinda):
    
    1. The vaccines did indeed have nasty side effects that were swept under the carpet, with the costs to young people exceeding the benefits.
    
    2. The cumulative effects of lockdowns killed more than they saved.
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:32am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    BY – yes, remember, narrative control is everything. “Single source of truth” and all that.
    
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    September 20, 2022 8:06am
ClanMcleod

“Bill Gates and the Global Vaccine Mafia”

The pandemic has been an unholy storm of three things: 1) Shady SARS-inspired gain-of-function virus research culminating, most probably, in the release of a lab-enhanced virus; 2) destructive mass containment policies imposed for many months on people across the world; and 3) hasty treatment and vaccine development by a few favoured pharmaceutical concerns, followed by the mass coercive administration of doubtful mRNA products from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna.

These are the three legs of the stool. Remove one of them, and the whole thing falls. Without 1) there’s no pandemic at all; without 2), some people die, but without all of the collatoral damage and with none of the vaccinator mania; without 3), lockdowns have no obvious end point and are probably confined to the first wave.

One of the best commentators on the covid circus. Some of the content is totally free, some is paywalled, but I have found it worth every cent. The alternative is “getpocket”. Google it. You’ll figure it out.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/bill-gates-and-the-global-vaccine?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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September 19, 2022 9:39am
Ghost

National to talk about the report today. Any investigations into the bullying in labour yet?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300691347/investigation-into-national-mp-sam-uffindell-concludes-report-sent-to-party

A National spokesperson said the party received Dew’s investigation into Uffindell “late last week”.

Luxon originally said he hoped it would only take a few weeks, but it has been more than a month.

The details of this report are yet to be released. The spokesperson said the party would have more to say later on Monday.
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September 19, 2022 9:47am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Credit to Luxon at least he got one done. Cindy prefers rugs for these situations.
  I thought Luxon said the details of the report will not be made public? I could be wrong.
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:01am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    He did say it would not be made public. But he will need to announce what actions they intend to take in response to the report.
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:14am
    - MCōs
      
      My guess is Uffindell will be back in caucus tomorrow, if not already, and the Nats will tighten up their selection process.
      A nice touch would be to see him with the family on the cover of Women’s Weekly
      
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      September 19, 2022 10:47am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Sam Uffindell was helping out an a National Party stand at a lifestyle expo at the weekend. To me, that’s a pretty clear sign that the report from Maria Dew hasn’t found anything untoward. The sooner he’s back in caucus doing the job he was elected by the people of Tauranga to do, the better.
    
    However with National selecting its first 2023 candidate yesterday – James Meager in Rangitata – it’s early warning for new candidates that everything they have done since birth is going to be raked through, and the slightest indiscretions will be used against them. On the other hand, media like Stuff will elevate Labour and Green candidates towards sainthood!
    
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    September 19, 2022 12:56pm
    - Paulus
      
      Labour candidates are much easier to chose – mates, unionists, teachers and LGB whatever get priority.
      Manay current will not get back anyway so will add to the jobless.
      
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      September 19, 2022 1:41pm
  - I remember when
    
    Cindy’s rug doubles as a dais.
    
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    September 19, 2022 2:35pm
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING

Cindy appears on BBC…. channeling Mary Poppins 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1571415846232428544
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September 19, 2022 10:04am
- Ghost
  
  Looking at the backdrop are you sure that isn’t play school
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:06am
  - mandk
    
    I think it probably is play school.
    
    Ardern is more comfortable with pre-schoolers than with grown ups.
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:21am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Oh dear. It must have been a rough flight over.
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jaspinda at the Westminster Hall Creche getting advice
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:33am
  - Paulus
    
    Well, I understand her daughter is with her !
    
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    September 19, 2022 1:42pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from Herne Bay has just txt…..

‘Two people in the busy Supermarket wearing masks this morning. One elderly lady and Siouxie Wiles’

LOL!!
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September 19, 2022 10:37am
- kowtow
  
  Theremust be a serious mask revanchist movement in Daft Dunners , if this photo is anything to go by .
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/standing-room-only-%E2%80%98cat%E2%80%99-sets-tone
  
  Local election meet the candidates meeting , looks like just about everyone a Zorro supporter . Must be it was “strongly advised”
  
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  September 19, 2022 10:54am
  - Sequel
    
    I was going to go to that meeting but in the end couldn’t make it. The organisers made mask wearing mandatory (that was not the reason why I didn’t go) so that’s why so many are doing so.
    
    To be honest, mask wearing has all but disappeared in Dunedin.
    
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    September 19, 2022 11:42am
    - kowtow
      
      Interesting .ty.
      
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      September 19, 2022 11:56am
Ehlana

As I left for work this morning the British were about to observe a minute of silence for the death of the Queen.

Does anyone know if or when this will happen in New Zealand?
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September 19, 2022 10:47am
- Ghost
  
  It was announced we would be, but I don’t think when has been announced. Mostly likely when jacinda is back and they have a memorial for the queen
  
  https://gg.govt.nz/office-governor-general/death-her-majesty-queen/mourning-guidance
  
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  September 19, 2022 11:32am
- Ghost
  
  A minute of silence for the death of Queen Elizabeth II will be held across the country.
  
  The minute of silence will take place at the beginning of a state memorial service for the Queen, at 2pm on Monday, September 26. The day will also be a public holiday.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/129925694/live-acting-pm-grant-robertson-speaks-about-queens-nz-state-memorial
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Just reading some rubbish about food prices coming down. Jaspinda said it will take time. Jaspinda won’t want prices down.
Take a half kilo of butter, used to be around $6. Now $6.80. To reduce that back to $6 the Govt loses a GST take of 15 cents. Not a lot, but across the board in NZ that is a lot of GST the Govt will not get. Govt is broke atm.
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September 19, 2022 10:54am
- Westie Bob
  
  The GST content of 80 cents is 10.4 cents not 15. Cheers
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:40pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    so the Govt misses out 6 cents? Better push the price up to $6.90 then
    
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    September 20, 2022 9:34am
- MCōs
  
  I hope it’s not rubbish, except for seasonal fruit & vegetables prices ain’t coming down.
  
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  September 19, 2022 5:57pm
Drone

The front page article in today’s Dom Post is about future rate rises in Wellington. One potential mayoral candidate has predicted rates to rise by 70% over the next 5 years. The suggested reasons are :
Infrastructure
LGWM (transport overhaul)
Waste water treatment plant
Convention centre
I would have thought that “Infrastructure” encapsulated pipes, sewage, and the waste water treatment plant would be the responsibility of the Three Waters Squad, and billed by them not the Council as “rates”. LGWM has been a disaster to date and the long term vision should be cut back so that it can be afforded. The convention centre exists, can’t be not funded but if it isn’t financially neutral should be sold. Rate rises should be kept to or below inflation, many people on fixed incomes won’t be able to meet rate increases greater than inflation.
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September 19, 2022 11:48am
- Prince
  
  Given that rates have risen 37% in the last three years, 70% over the next five years doesn’t seem excessive, unless you think a city council should consider retirees, those on fixed incomes, and those on salaries where they cannot expect those sorts of increases.
  Truly, a city destroying itself from the top.
  
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  September 19, 2022 12:31pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Rises kept below inflation? Not when the Socialists are running the show.
  
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  September 19, 2022 12:41pm
septic skeptic

Just listened to Wayne Brown being interviewed on the Platform. That’s 7 minutes of my life I won’t get back. OK, so he was hampered by a dodgy cellphone (wtf!), but still he was about as inspirational as watching paint dry. Efeso Collins would be a certainty on that performance. Maybe I will vote Vic Buck as some sort of protest. FFS, the right really do need to get their shit together on local government. These councils are multi-billion dollar organizations that we seem happy to hand over to lefty activists to use as they see fit.
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September 19, 2022 12:23pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  Hold your nose and vote Wayne Brown just to avoid getting Efeso.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:45pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    My point is that I don’t think that strategy has any chance of working. I could be completely wrong, but from what I heard in the interview Brown is completely lacking in enthusiasm and charisma.
    The right might have been better to go with Molloy. At least he was entertaining.
    I’m resigned to a few more years of rampant rates rises, wastage and loony climate fighting.
    
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    September 19, 2022 6:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Will this happen in NZ? Your money controlled? I think we are half way there. Want to escape to Australia? You may be grounded here by the Socialists.
https://rumble.com/vvhe8y-joe-rogan-stunned-by-great-reset-video-on-coming-digital-id-dystopia.html?
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September 19, 2022 12:39pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes I saw the Chancellor’s video and it is actualy time to be afraid, very afraid of digital government currencies……I might add like the one Robbersson is positioning us toward here in NZ tagged to the Digital Identity Services Trust Framework Bill and the Covid Tracer app (which was a nice practice run)….buckle up and grit your teeth or speak up and be brave……
  As someone once said it is better to die on your fet than on your knees and this sort of policy is designed to force you to your knees.
  Google the DISTF Bill.
  
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  September 19, 2022 1:47pm
Ghost

Going live at 2pm

Chris Luxon fronts after investigation into National MP Sam Uffindell

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300691347/watch-live-chris-luxon-fronts-after-investigation-into-national-mp-sam-uffindell
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September 19, 2022 1:48pm
- Ghost
  
  He’s to return to caucus
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:15pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Great! Did we have a KC investigation into Labour’s Dr. Gaurav Sharma and Anna Lork? Of course not, the findings would show inappropriate internal management processes within the Labour Govt eh?
    
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    September 19, 2022 2:22pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Cindy will be breathing a sigh of relief. The last thing she needed was a by-election in Tauranga (or anywhere else). Now she’ll be hoping that Eagle doesn’t make it as Mayor as a by-election in Rongotai could be very messy for Liarbore.
    
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    September 19, 2022 3:52pm
- JerJer
  
  Love the questioning. We really have reached rock bottom in journalism here in this country.
  
  i) What if he really actually did do it ?
  
  ii) What does this say to Marley (sorry Maori) ?
  
  iii) Isn’t it offensive to make the announcement on the days of the Queen’s funeral ?
  
  Ridiculous, stupid, irrelevant questioning.
  
  Very controlled by Luxon. If it was me, I would be saying to the media this was mostly made up by you, it’s proven to be false, now move on (or do something useful and ask Labour why they didn’t have the stones to actually do an investigation into their past and ongoing issues on the exact same issue).
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:53pm
- Ehlana
  
  And Labour’s response: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/475061/robertson-uses-post-cabinet-briefing-to-criticise-national-s-handling-of-uffindell-investigation
  
  I particularly like the Grant Robertson quote “The National Party need to defend the way that they’ve handled this and who knew what when…” and Radio New Zealand’s “When the Labour Party had an issue with a staff member, there was an executive summary released…”.
  
  I understand how you avoid releasing findings on the day of the Queen’s funeral by not having an inquiry. But I don’t understand how you release a summary when there was no (independent) investigation.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:35pm
  - nathie
    
    So more Robbo Porkies then?
    
    Anyway is he really just angry because the MSM will spend less time covering Cindy … as some MSM time will now need to be devoted to covering National’s investigation? 😉
    
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    September 19, 2022 4:42pm
Hugh Jarse

Any word on the timings for the announcements from the Lorcke, Webb and McAnulty bullying investigations ?. Or the Mahuta alleged conflict of interest inquiries ?.
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September 19, 2022 1:58pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Labour will announce a review in the next few days (may wait until Jacinda’s back though).
  
  Maria Dew QC has finished her Uffindel review so will be free to do the Sharma review now.
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:33pm
- Ghost
  
  Yes, the 12th of coverup
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Martha’s Vineyard Liberals panicking over illegals. Make them abide by their own rules. The Border is secure according to the Dems. NIMBYs.
https://rumble.com/v1kapfv-marthas-vineyard-libs-are-panicking-over-50-illegal-aliens.html?
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September 19, 2022 1:58pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  But, it’s kidnapping because (check notes) some “journalist” made a bunch of completely unproven (and disproven) assumptions that make De Santis look as bad as possible.
  
  To the people noting that De Santis flew them from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard, note that the Government have sent far more night flights from Texas to Florida so he most definitely has a legitimate reason to send them instead to Left Wing enclaves.
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:38pm
mogg

DeSantis open to all questions on his policies;
https://youtu.be/HXrL95cwevo.
Would Biden do this or could Cindy take all questions, never in a million years.
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September 19, 2022 2:06pm
I remember when

So Tory Whanau is running for Wellington Mayor as an independent.
I wonder what the Greens expect to get for the $3625 they have donated to her campaign.

(Mod – corrected name)
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September 19, 2022 2:06pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Fancy being a screaming Leftie with a name like Tory!!!!
  
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  September 19, 2022 2:31pm
- MCōs
  
  If you’re going to go down that path you might like to ask questions about the donors to any ‘independent’ candidate.
  Running campaigns ain’t cheap.
  Didn’t Peter Jackson help out the present mayor of Wellington because of the Shelly Bay development? At least it wasn’t covered up.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:04pm
I remember when

Jacinda Ardern expects food prices to come down: Newshub.
With Spring approaching it would be a real disaster if food prices didn’t start to come down, even with the staffing problems growers are facing.
However, unless the government has gained some hitherto unknown access to the seasons, it will have little to do with any government action.
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September 19, 2022 2:27pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

So here we are in NZ talking about possibly creating a Republic, yet in America the Dems want to destroy theirs. What is it with lefties??
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September 19, 2022 2:27pm
Hugh Jarse

I think National have got this wrong, rightly or wrongly the Uffindel situation is going to be a bleeding sore for National and Uffindel right through his career now. I think he should have resigned and got on with life away from politics. Putting up with this crap for $200K a years not worth it. Although having said that Mallard has done ok for himself with a far worse history.
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September 19, 2022 2:27pm
- mandk
  
  What’s the betting there will be an anti-National cartoon about this on Stuff tomorrow?
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:11pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Rubbish..
  He’s shown that he was willing to have an independent review of his University days…and his version of events has held up.
  
  Labour may continue flinging dirt at him, but it doesn’t look like it will stick.
  
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  September 19, 2022 6:15pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  I couldn’t disagree more Hugh. Luxon took the issue off the front pages by immediately commissioning an inquiry, at National’s expense. And because National paid for Maria Dew KC’s report, they have control over what gets released.
  
  Sam Uffindell now needs to keep his nose clean, work hard, and earn re-selection for the General Election. The irony of course is that Maria Dew also did reports for the Labour Party, which the Labour Party refused to release publicly. Karma came calling today, and she’s a bitch!
  
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  September 19, 2022 6:34pm
  - Nickc2
    
    This afternoon, I witnessed a radio rant from Talkback ZB’s senior political reporter attempting to plunge another knife in Uffindel’s back by twisting things in the KC’s findings to suit his/NZME’s political agenda. He neglected or deliberately failed to include the fact that the episode involving Uffindel’s female flatmate was not as reported in the media.
    Don’t trust our MSM, they have an agenda.
    
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    September 19, 2022 6:50pm
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Hi Tony, I respect your view point and I hope it pans out the way you suggest, but I will stick to my opinion based on my view of our media..
    
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    September 19, 2022 10:48pm
Maggie Pie

UPDATE to my earlier post….

“Axe wielding lunatic terrorising customers at Maccas has been arrested”.

YAY!!

https://twitter.com/newscomauHQ/status/1571685507909705730
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September 19, 2022 2:35pm
Maggie Pie

Then there’s this 🙁

A bestie retweets.

After 12 years of Labor-led Councils, the similarity is uncanny 🙁

QUEEN ST then, QUEEN STREET now.

https://twitter.com/bsdhvt/status/1571212027346952192

This is what Socialism does to a country.
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September 19, 2022 2:53pm
Ghost

So telling someone “We don’t carry your size here” is not only offensive but also newsworthy.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2022/09/australian-woman-in-tears-after-being-body-shamed-for-asking-to-try-on-a-dress-in-larger-size.html
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September 19, 2022 4:22pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  A family member working in Japan who is actually tiny got bundled out of a Tokyo shop with cries of “Too big, too big!”. Strangely enough she found it funny and didn’t have a nervous breakdown.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:37pm
- Ehlana
  
  I think the essence of her complaint is rudeness. All the staff member had to do was to say, politely, “I’m sorry, we don’t have that size in stock.” Why be rude?
  
  That said, I hope the shopper actually did raise the matter with store management. Complaining to the press about an unidentified store probably won’t change the behaviour – a response from store management probably will.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:52pm
Swifty

Aussies to get ‘totally wasted’ on day to mourn the Queen’s passing:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11225637/Public-holiday-mourn-death-Queen-Elizabeth-II-Australians-planning-totally-wasted.html

“It’s what she would have wanted….”

😂
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September 19, 2022 4:22pm
Maggie Pie

OMG!

One of the girls from tennis re-tweets…

‘Imagine donating your body to science and having your face turn up as someones pussy skin’

https://twitter.com/Spy5Wire/status/1571201651393921025
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September 19, 2022 4:27pm
Alan Wilkinson

Robinson is bleating that National have been disrespectful and cynical releasing the Uffindel report today. As if he wouldn’t have!
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September 19, 2022 4:41pm
- nathie
  
  Of course, Robbo is the master when it comes to deceit and “Friday 4pm” releases (and hiding info within them) … self-projecting much, like what you would do Robbo? !!
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:45pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  What an absolute waste of space that fat, arrogant prick is. And his name is Robertson.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:51pm
- nathie
  
  And why is Robertson even bleating when Sam Uffindell has been cleared?
  
  Normally when someone is cleared, the MSM quickly move on.
  
  So is Robertson unhappy with the Maria Dew’s findings? Because did some ‘smears’ not stick or something? Did Robertson play a part? What a peculiar fellow this Grant Roberston is!
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:58pm
  - MCōs
    
    The National Party have had the report since Thursday. They could have waited another day.
    They didn’t release the report. They released a version that suited their purposes and contradicted that which they say the media reported.
    
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    September 19, 2022 5:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  OFFS!!
  
  Just because Labour can’t get a hit from Ms Dew’s report.
  
  I’m sure if the report had come out with a finding against Uffindel, then Labour would have been crawling all over the media this afternoon.
  
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  September 19, 2022 4:59pm
- Ghost
  
  Perhaps Grant can tell us when the report into the bullying of Dr Sharma will be released, or even the report into the bullying of Louisa Wall.
  
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  September 19, 2022 5:05pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And somehow Robertson must think that he is not being disrespectful and cynical by trying to make political capital from the report’s release date.
  
  If he truly believed it was disrespectful to be playing political gotcha games today, then he would have kept his gob shut.
  
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  September 19, 2022 5:17pm
  - Ghost
    
    If they had of not released it today but left it a day or two out of respect for the Queen, Grant would be on the news tonight saying that national were using the Queens funeral to try and delay releasing it.
    
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    September 19, 2022 5:24pm
    - igm
      
      What do you expect from NZ’s worst and most incompetent Min of Fin ever.
      He is a vile disgraceful excuse for a politician, a disgrace to what is left of a once respected Parliament.
      
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      September 19, 2022 6:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

So let’s keep importing EV cars, and trucks into NZ. Well how will we charge them all? Worry about that later. The suppliers will ask me to turn up or down so the pricks in the street can charge their cars, trucks whatever.
Yep, Mainfreight have a truck running Hamiton to Auckland. 3 batteries – one is use, one charged and one charging.
We need EVs but we don’t need more power generation? What is wrong with this picture??
https://rumble.com/v1jwu1t-dan-bongino-exposes-the-green-energy-scam.html?
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September 19, 2022 5:08pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Jeeze Steve, why do you have to call EV owners “pricks” ? You might find that most are normal decent people and find your statement offensive.
  
  Obviously you are not aware that the vast majority of EV’s are charged at night when the grid has excess energy available and power prices are lower.
  
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  September 19, 2022 5:32pm
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    Calling EV owners pricks might be a bit steep, but I can definitely understand why people might be upset if their power bills start going through the roof due to the added demand on the system.
    As for ‘excess’ energy, I presume you mean spare capacity. In NZ that will mean more demand on hydro and/or FF generation, leading to higher bills. Don’t assume night time charging won’t impact on the rest of us.
    
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    September 19, 2022 5:53pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    We are soon going to have power outages as move EVs come into NZ.
    I will call EV owners whatever I like.
    How about conceited pricks?
    
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    September 20, 2022 9:40am
Ghost

Great news, it is ok to steal, anyone invited around to dinner with Patrick Gower feel free to steal anything you want

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/09/patrick-gower-the-day-i-stole-a-teacup-off-queen-elizabeth.html

Patrick Gower: The day I stole a teacup off Queen Elizabeth
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September 19, 2022 5:30pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  Once again Gower has proven he isn’t funny. This guys just gets worse.
  Invited into someone’s house and he steals. And now brags… not so class act.
  
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  September 19, 2022 6:02pm
Ghost

For Christchurch people

Parents of a 13-year-old Christchurch boy who went missing from school on Monday morning are asking for the public’s help to find him.

Alex Carter was last seen at Breens Intermediate School in Bishopdale about 11.30am, his mother Kathryn Carter said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/129929631/search-for-christchurch-boy-missing-from-school-since-monday-morning
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September 19, 2022 6:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Newshub is suggesting that we will have to take National’s word about the Uffindel report…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/sam-uffindell-cleared-by-report-but-national-s-refusing-to-release-it.html

Perhaps Newshub would like to chase up Labour and enquire why the Maria Austen report into the Labour Youth Camp wasn’t released….
or the Maria Dew report into the Senior Labour staffer accused of bullying and sexual assaults.

https://emmapriest.co.nz/media/2020/12/17/why-the-labour-party-wont-release-the-full-maria-austen-report-on-summer-youth-camp-scandal
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September 19, 2022 7:08pm
- Ghost
  
  No doubt govt media will soon be running a story from his female flat mate about how the inquiry got it wrong.
  
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  September 19, 2022 7:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And “Newsroom” is singing from the same songsheet
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/luxon-not-keen-on-uffindell-report-seeing-light-of-day
  
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  September 19, 2022 7:21pm
  - Ghost
    
    Perhaps the herald could run this story again
    
    https://emmapriest.co.nz/media/2020/12/17/why-the-labour-party-wont-release-the-full-maria-austen-report-on-summer-youth-camp-scandal
    
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    September 19, 2022 7:45pm
kevn

@Maggy… and the media common denominator is: the paymaster.
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September 19, 2022 7:30pm
Keith White

I understand well that the Internet famously lacks nuance. I also do not wish to deliberately try and challenge moderator standards. So if this post disappears, so be it. But given the enormously convincing evidence that the judiciary of New Zealand are practising “catch and release” of some really very serious nasty killing and raping perps – is it going to take another episode like the machete attack on Judge Augusta Wallace, before the judiciary actually start to sanction people for wanton brutality and violence?

“Interviewed shortly after the attack, Dame Augusta reflected on the experience and how it changed her approach to cases of assault.”

How does that comment go? Oh yes, “a conservative is a liberal mugged by reality.”

Also, via Irving Kristol: “A neoconservative is a liberal who’s been mugged by reality. A neoliberal is a liberal who’s been mugged by reality but has refused to press charges.”.
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