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Warren

How to make a peice of crap into a plum pudding and keep the Labour Cyc’lops happy , well Newshub to attempt help the Prime Minister and the Labour Party get headlines on her Leadership at the expense of the Queens death, with Jacinda Ardern featured heavily among overseas media coverage of Queens funeral plan.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/queen-elizabeth-s-death-jacinda-ardern-featured-heavily-among-overseas-media-coverage-of-queen-funeral-plans.html
The New Zealand Media will stop at nothing to make sure there Sweetheart Prime Minister gets a major portion of headlines to be re-elected at the 2023 General Election.
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September 15, 2022 8:04am
- Harry Knuts
  
  i walked right past this headline. Pure advertorial for Cindy. Pity the rest of the world doesn’t realise how much of a non-achiever she has been with a total of 5 years in office. Too busy being hung up on womens weekly style reporting. Which by the way isn’t journalism.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:18am
  - Tricati
    
    I hear there’s a bit of discord over who Ardern invited to accompany her to the Queen’s funeral, mainly, ex-Prime Ministers Helen Clark and John Key were not invited.
    There was no way she would invite Key, as he was invited & spent a week with the Queen at Balmoral Castle, and had a BBQ for Prince William when he was out in NZ after the Christchurch earthquakes, so knew a number of the royal family intimately. That would grate Ardern, and no way would she want to be upstaged at an event such as the Queen’s funeral, as this trip is all about self-promotion at a time of slumping polls.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:30am
  - Observer of Life
    
    Harry: Had a thought.. how long before Woman’s Weekly magazine is forced to change it’s name by the LQBTQRZP+ crowd? Counting down….
    
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    September 15, 2022 1:04pm
    - Harry Knuts
      
      Alphabet weekly, Spring Edition.
      
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      September 15, 2022 4:11pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      No need – impossible to define a woman so it automatically becomes inclusive, tolerant and diverse. Simples!
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:40pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Willie Apiata – OK, someone of Status
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Willie Apiata – OK, someone of Status
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Dunno how I doubled up. The comment was buffering
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:03am
- rouppe
  
  “It is a privilege to attend the funeral alongside other New Zealanders from different walks of life to pay our respects on behalf of all New Zealanders.
  
  “The broad range of New Zealand’s representation is a testament to the Queen’s long-standing relationship and engagement with our country.”
  
  That delegation is hardly representative of New Zealanders. Why Sylvia Cartwright, and not all the other former GG’s? Why Willie Apiata and not any of the surviving WWII aircrew?
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:47am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Willie was actually invited by the UK as per the Queens wishes.
    All VC and George Cross holders were invited.
    Costs of travel for VC winners paid by various Governments
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:26pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Three women named Cindy. Go figure.
    
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    September 15, 2022 7:54pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Hopefully they sit her next to the Brazilian President on the bus trip.
  
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  September 15, 2022 12:19pm
Yvette

“3 Waters” was first voluntary for councils – with “sweetness” as bribery – then mandatory, so Nania Mahuta using Willie Jackson’s “tyranny of the majority”, with his help.

… The Government provided a lot of sweeteners to councils to encourage them to sign on to the water reform agenda. The first tranche of that ‘better off’ funding came from central government and has been covering all manner of community projects, from swimming pool upgrades to walking trails …
… But there is a neat trick in the funding. $1.5 billion of the $2.5 billion [for sweetners] comes not from the Crown, but from the future water service entities, which will end up carrying the debt … [so a Ponzi scheme]
… for projects that have nothing to do with core business, and everything to do with satisfying local political imperatives.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/eric-crampton-bad-debt-and-a-bad-precedent

So perhaps National or ACT should ask a Parliamentary Question (if they haven’t already) –
How much of the “better off’ funding”, offered for commitment to “3 Waters” reform, was taken up by councils, and how much of that uptake will pass to the 3 Waters Entities to later recoup?
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September 15, 2022 8:05am
- Nickc2
  
  Where’s our Attorney-General when you need him to stamp out blatant rorts like this?
  Oh, surprise, surprise, David Parker’s sitting on the front bench with Cindy who obviously signed off on this rort.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:53am
Scott

I think one of the worst effects of covid is that New Zealanders have all gone to sleep. We don’t debate things anymore, the opposition is trying to cut through a media blanket of government noise and meanwhile things are simply falling apart.
Buried deep on stuff on Wednesday morning was the news of yet another ram raid. The offenders used the car to slam into the Lynn Mall and jump out and steal from many shops.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/auckland-top-stories/300687596/ramraiders-smash-through-into-auckland-mall

This has now become normal. The police, who apparently have a police station next door but it is closed during the night, are appealing for witnesses and information. How long is this to go on? The police show no signs of getting on top of the problem and the government talks about wraparound solutions and getting to the root causes of crime and meanwhile nothing changes. Who believes that ram raids will be a thing of the past in 12 months time? And the crime is being done by youth. Thirteen year olds are stealing cars, ramming those cars into mall doors and jumping out and stealing at will. And continuing to get away with it!

But Maori language week shows the vanity and incompetence of our ruling class. They are all in for teenage Johnny learning Maori. Johnny can’t read or write or spell, even when he does get to school, which for 50% of New Zealand schoolchildren is not very often. So how does trying to teach him another language when he does not know English going to help him?
But look Johnny knows the name of his country is now Aotearoa and stuff this week is called puna, so the increasingly radical middle-class can feel good about themselves. We are virtuous, we are learning Te Reo, it’s all good.

Meanwhile the country is in the midst of an unprecedented crime wave. Much of it is done by youth. Half of New Zealand children are not attending school. Isn’t it time we all woke up from our slumber? Isn’t it time we demanded law and order and proper education and a restoration of the orderly New Zealand way of life? I’m sorry but things cannot continue on this way. We are well on the way to becoming the new Venezuela. Our wonderful country is being destroyed by a government that is either unable or unwilling to restore even the basics of law and order. And our children are running amok.
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September 15, 2022 8:06am
- Simon
  
  The state has large and complex systems of surveillance they can for eg track how many people are driving and using phones. But they cant track down these little scrotes.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Track them down and then what? The bastards know they are untouchable, which is why adults use them.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:13am
- Simon
  
  Its clear adults are using these kids for ram raids.
  
  Penalties for using children to commit crimes should be very steep. But they aint.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:26am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    I would agree. I would guess that it’s a mix of both parents encouraging this kind of offending and also kids doing this on their own steam. Ultimately all for shits and giggles to post on the likes of tiktok for fame.
    
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    September 15, 2022 8:43am
  - kowtow
    
    The adult that gave them the signal was Coster .
    ‘We’re not chasing anymore’ , literally handed over control to organised crime.
    
    prisons seem to be going the same way.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:13am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Yep. Like all Labourites, Mr Coster does not understand the effect of deterrents & incentives on human behaviour.
      
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      September 15, 2022 7:56pm
      - Keith White
        
        Oh, I’m not so sure about that. Coster certainly understands how to incentivize gangs to stay armed and law-abiding citizens to surrender their firearms.
        
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        September 16, 2022 4:59am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Agree. And a lot of talk about ram raids, but where is all the jewellery from the 10’s of ram raids on Michael Hill jeweller’s for example. Someone more organised than a couple of kids on a joy ride must have the ability and market to onsell it.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:37am
    - Harry Knuts
      
      blackmarket through facebook marketplace is the most common way this kind of stolen stuff is being onsold. Anyone can set up a fake profile on facebook .
      
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      September 15, 2022 10:57am
- Harry Knuts
  
  “news of yet another ram raid”
  Nightly occurrence. Probably way more than is being reported in the MSM. It’s almost like the police have given up. Perhaps they are taking the attitude, so long as no one gets hurt then let it slide. perhaps they know the “wrap-around” services is pure hogwash and is nothing of the sort. And these kids are back out within 48hrs doing the same again – rinse and repeat.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:26am
  - riffer
    
    I doubt it’s way more than the media are reporting. They love to sensationalise bad news so it is extremely unlikely they won’t be reporting it.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:09am
    - leoj
      
      Why do you bother?
      Oh, I know. You’re still wearing a mask…..
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:27pm
    - I remember when
      
      riffer:
      I notice the media weren’t reporting it previously because it wasn’t happening.
      
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      September 15, 2022 2:35pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    It’s becoming a dog-bites-man story.
    
    Now, a bunch of scrotes who are made to turn up & clean up the mess they’ve made – that would be a man-bites-dog story.
    
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    September 15, 2022 7:59pm
- a3kidlady
  
  Scott, Not gone to sleep, just sick of being shouted down and gas-lit by our government and others, exhausted by dealing with the ever changing landscape of the last 900 odd days on behalf of my staff team and clients, I would say actually traumatised by the last 900 odd days as I find whenever it is mentioned I am thrust back to the uncertainty and out right evil of decisions that were put upon us. Currently, in recovery mode for our businesses, family and myself to regain my sanity and holding my peace until next year when we have an election. Don’t despair, many of my colleagues are feeling exactly the same. We will be back and we will speak up.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Some businesses did not make it. Years of work and skill gone down the gutter.
    The company I worked for had a lease expire, landlord would not renew, he wants small warehouses. No other suitable factories available, or landlords wanted 6 monthly leases.
    You can not run a manufacturing business like that. All assets are in storage, the business is still for sale.
    Slowed me down, 70 next week, but still happy to do 3 or 4 days a week. 49 years of developed skill, all at that same company.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:20am
  - kevn
    
    @Akidlady… It could be read as dismissive but I don’t think Scott meant ‘sleep’ as such. Maybe more like hibernating.
    I have immense admiration seeing people trying to rally after this 900 poxy days, plus years of bungling. wasteful stupidity by the clown circus.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:32am
  - cmm
    
    3kids: Sure, many people will be rebuilding from the ashes, but many won’t. There are many reasons why some might not:
    * The business owner was going to retire in 5 years anyway, so what’s the point going through all the hard graft or taking 4 years to build up a business again?
    * Times have changed. Some business would have closed in the next 10 years under various pressures anyway. It just does not make sense trying to tro restart them.
    
    In many cases, it won’t be just CV19 that killed the business, just an extra factor – the straw that breaks the camel’s back.
    
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    September 15, 2022 4:44pm
- Ford Prefect
  
  In the words of Howard Beale
  “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!”
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:55am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How can you debate Covid when a lot of the data comes from a Govt that lies, and repeats lies from paid, trained experts?
  Crime and Ram raids. Look at the state of the Govt, Police, Courts, Prisons. Crims just do whatever they like, there are no deterrents anymore. Somehow the victim is the one at fault.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:10am
- JerJer
  
  I was not even sure if Dead Language week had actually started. It all seems very quiet, however I did see yesterday the countdown head of corporate affairs admin on the Platform that they put the Dead Lanugage on their automated checkouts as an option purely to be woke, as a PR stunt (that admitted it on air by mistake), and I also saw that the objective of 1 million Dead language speakers is not going to be acheived by 2040 as per the plan (it will be more like 200,000) if they are lucky. and that the percentage of people that can speak 3 words has increased by 2% points over the last 5 years to 6.5% (and 2 of those words are probably made up new ones anyway). So the whole Maori language revival thing seems to be a complete farce, a waste of money set to fail. I have no issue with Maori or others wanting to learn it, but don’t ram it down out throats, no one is interested and at best it is purely symbolic, and will never be mainstream. Probably time to give up and maybe do something useful for most of these woke people pushing this rubbish.
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:33am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Worth a look
    
    https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/are-pakeha-really-the-bad-guys-in-the-demise-of-te-reo
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:41pm
    - JerJer
      
      Yes, you won’t hear that story in the mainstream media, and even though I don’t know it as fact, and seems completely logical that if you were a minority and you wanted to survive in the world you would speak the language that every one else speaks, which in this case….is English. Maori wanted to beter thenselves and so, they asked to be taught English…and that is no surprise. Imagine if they had taken a different tack. the end result would have been they would have been wiped out due to poverty and sickness as a result of not being able to meaningfully participate in society. Great outcomes. even the Labour party betters that outcome. Living in cars and motels is just better that being wiped out all together I guess. Only just mind.
      
      This is how languages die. There is nothing at all special about the Maori language that means it deserves to be saved….any more so than any of the other languages that are already extinct. There is nothing to be gained by trying to make the language mainstream. What would be the point in sitting on a little bankrupt Island at the end of the world speaking a language that no one else in the world understands or cares about. You may as well communicate using a series of chirps and clicking noises.
      
      Sure, if people think it is that special, save it, but do so under your own steam, using your own money, and keep it to yourself.
      
      They are on a hiding to nothing anyway. It’s sad to watch.
      
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      September 15, 2022 3:33pm
peterwn

So Lower Hutt’s Campbell Barry is promising a ‘anti cruising’ bylaw if he is re-elected. It begs the question of why he has not already arranged this especially as racers etc doing burnouts has been an issue for some years.
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September 15, 2022 8:11am
- mandk
  
  Simple.
  
  It’s cos he is just a Labour Party stooge, who is incapable of delivering anything.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:41am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    All hui, no doey?
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:22am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Much hui with much bovine pooey. Very little dooey, expect for propaganda purposes.
      
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      September 15, 2022 4:35pm
- riffer
  
  LOL. Kids have been doing this since the 50s and mayors in Lower Hutt have been promising to do something about it.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:10am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Except they haven’t riffer. Kids in the 50’s 60’s and into 70’s could barely afford to by a bike let alone a car.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:28am
Scooter

King Charles has had his 2nd pen-gate issue in as many days and couldn’t keep his frustrations under control, something the Queen would never do. Not off to a good start.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/king-charles-pen-tantrums-expose-him-as-an-overindulged-manchild/news-story/a413dcbd9fd1c46859e9bcb39a7b9f9b
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September 15, 2022 8:12am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There’s a lot to be said for a decent biro.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:45am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yep – even Trump uses a sharpie.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:24am
  - Scooter
    
    Especially with his fingers.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:29am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Your TDS is hanging out of your skirt
      
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      September 16, 2022 9:23am
- pdm
  
  I have a hardly used Parker Fountain Pen he could have borrowed.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:07am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Somewhere in my junk I have a ball point disguised as a fountain pen. Wonder where it is? Safe I guess.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:26am
Tony Stuart

Those who are slagging off King Charles III over his frustration with a pen should reflect on the fact that, since his mother died, he has embarked on a punishing and very public schedule, and has had very little time to mourn his mother’s passing.

He may now be King, but he’s also a human being with normal human feelings, not an automaton. Cut the man some slack, for goodness sake!
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September 15, 2022 8:13am
- MCōs
  
  The chap has known since he became aware of his surroundings he would be king.
  Plans for this day have been known to him and the Queen for that matter, for years.
  The Queen faded away before the eyes of the world over the last wee while since her husband died.
  Maybe despite all that it still hit him like a bus.
  Who knows with these people?
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:32am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    It doesn’t matter how long you know about it in advance, the death of a Parent will hit you hard. End of.
    
    In the midst of all this, there is, what in all likelihood will be, the biggest event of the year to arrange, which will be the Queens Funeral, and the constitutional duties that attend the new Monarch.
    
    I don’t know about you, but I’m prepared to cut the man a little slack about getting grumpy with a Pen.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:09am
    - MCōs
      
      “It doesn’t matter how long you know about it in advance, the death of a Parent will hit you hard. End of.”
      More or less that which I wrote.
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:21am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Look at it from the perspective of the people organising the formal, world-wide televised document signing ceremony- would you not think every little detail would be checked and double checked?
      But no, let’s give the new King a faulty pen to use on one of the biggest days of his life.
      Seems like a bit of slack incompetence to me.
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:24am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      What do you mean by “these people” MCos? Are you suggesting that members of the Royal Family should be immune to feelings of grief and loss?
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:28am
      - MCōs
        
        What I mean is they certainly don’t wear their hearts on their sleeves.
        They know that as soon as they show their true emotions in public the game is up. Andrew, Harry & Megan were crazy to do those TV interviews and probably Diana.
        Every day there’s shock horror stories about Harry in the NZ Herald.
        Those snippets of KCIII getting flustered are nothing, but because he never lets the mask slip they are all the tabloids have that’s genuine.
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:47am
      - I remember when
        
        The days since the Queen’s death have shown us how hard life can be as a royal – even when they just seem to be standing around.
        Your life is never your own.
        
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        September 15, 2022 2:51pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe his Mother’s death has just become real. He knew it would happen, he knew the Bridge would be down, but only now it has become real for him.
    Anyone slagging King Charles should think about their own Mother’s death.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:30am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Maybe after the funeral his psychological state can have a rest. I do hope so.
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:33am
- Scooter
  
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  Not slagging off but he has had his 73 years in the public eye to equip himself with these minor issues. The Queen was 25 years old when her father died and only knew she would be next in line since 1936 when Edward VIII abdicated. So far he is not doing much to live up to her standards.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:38am
  - Ghost
    
    I’d say you got it wrong, he’s not living up to your standard.
    
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    September 15, 2022 8:42am
    - Scooter
      
      He’s basically lost his rag twice over a pen, let’s hope it’s not something more serious next time, or Camilla might be sleeping with one eye open.
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:35am
      - Ghost
        
        He’s recently lost his father, now his mother, and what he basically said after getting ink over him is “oh god I hate this”. Didn’t lose his rag, just some will judge and look for fault no matter what
        
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        September 15, 2022 9:56am
      - Nukuleka
        
        Dear Lord, irritation about a leaky pen suddenly equates to domestic violence in the world of Scooter. Get a bloody life, idiot.
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:41am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    wouldn’t agree with you. He’s only had 1 mother the queen dies and just recently and now king. Not that he’s had many dress rehearsals on this one aye??
    Give him a break – probably had a total of 5hrs sleep in 5 days.
    
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    September 15, 2022 8:49am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    And his staff have had years to think about it, aren’t having to deal with the loss of their mother, and still can’t manage to set up a desk properly.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:18am
- Hollyfield
  
  I agree Tony. In addition he is probably not sleeping well. (I know I turn into a fire-breathing dragon when I don’t get enough sleep.) While his outbursts are not a good look, he should be given some slack for now.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:00am
- Simon
  
  Not followed it too much “But” hasnt Charles prepared all his life for this??
  
  Much like Cindy lies with consummate ease and without shame. Prepared all her life.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:24am
Tricati

Heard on Mike Hosking’s show this morning that the government is now up to 300 working groups, or reviews.
Seems all we have got for it is a bloated public service, dysfunctional health system, dropping education standards, racial discord and a bloody big debt, just to name a few.
The only two reviews that need to be done is a Royal Commission into Covid and a review of the Reserve Bank that’s gone woke.
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September 15, 2022 8:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  These Labour dicks do not do things that are simple.
  We have a working group about an announcement to make an announcement about when the announcement will be, to make the announcement – or part of the announcement.
  They are all full of shit.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:38am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Reminds me of the old 80’s NZ TV show Gliding On but multiplied by 300 into these working groups.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:46am
- barnacle bill
  
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  And Hosking has nothing better to do than sitting on his little short arse counting them.
  
  He is a parasitic blunger.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:53am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    I can see where your sense of proportion went.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:03am
    - barnacle bill
      
      Are you suggesting Hosking isn’t a short Arse ?
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:17am
      - leoj
        
        AW is simply suggesting that the proportion of your brain cells to your body size is far less than average but normal for Labour/Greens voters.
        
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        September 15, 2022 1:37pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Wrong, he has staff to do the counting or the info is freely available to his producer via some website.
    PS: There are none so parasitic as those who occupy the Govt’s seats in Parliament.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:11am
    - Paulus
      
      Don’t talk about Anna L that way !
      She is not a man bully.
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:12pm
  - Harry Knuts
    
    Hosking is doing something in his job by making this public knowledge. At least one of our journo’s in NZ is focused on shining the light on this non-performing govt with bloated bureaucracy.
    So 300 workgroups providing pages and pages of reports to the govt = cost to the taxpayers with no guaranteed outcomes/changes. A bit like a non-binding referendum, high cost and pointless.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:32am
    - alloytoo
      
      Actually it’s worse, Hosking doesn’t claim to be a journalist. What they (journalists) are doing who knows?
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:31am
      - Harry Knuts
        
        more kudos to Hoskings then.
        
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        September 15, 2022 12:38pm
  - Tricati
    
    Hosking commented the other morning that Ardern’s minders have asked for her to appear on his show again, and he is considering it but hasn’t yet agreed.
    Seems the introduction of Toxic Tova’s show as a platform for Ardern to mouth off has been a flop and tanking spectacularly.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:41am
    - Countrygirl
      
      I’ve never listened to Tova to know what the show is like. To do so would mean missing some of Hosking, and that I’m not prepared to do.
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:25pm
    - leoj
      
      I hope Hosking turns her down.
      She had her chance to talk to the country’s biggest audience.
      She blew it.
      See ya later. Foxtrot Oscar.
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:43pm
  - rouppe
    
    One of the things I like about Hosking is that he bases what he says on data. There must be 100 snippets of data every day on his show.
    
    Gdp figures. Unemployment figures. Spend on emergency housing. Spend on projects. Domestically and internationally.
    
    You can’t argue with data, and I’ve yet to hear anyone who has challenged the accuracy of his data.
    
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    September 15, 2022 1:08pm
  - I remember when
    
    barnacle bill:
    Can’t wait (a really silly saying constantly used by the sports media) for the rest of the media to catch on to the idea.
    
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    September 15, 2022 3:03pm
- MiddleclassTrash
  
  I think this is the result of arts degrees & entitled bitchy networking. If government department reforms don’t happen in the next decade, should we just pay them off, like the invading ideological pagans that they are? Art-think tax anyone?
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:29am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  What we clearly need is a blue-ribbon working group to review the number of reviews and working groups. Mahutacorp have just the skills needed.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:52am
  - I remember when
    
    tahi, rua, toru, wha……
    
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    September 15, 2022 3:06pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      …whanau, koha, pirau
      
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      September 15, 2022 7:20pm
ClanMcleod

A small reminder of a few of the things Ardern grinned about while imposing her fascism on the unwashed untermensch of NZ.
Great to see she is getting the international attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KapKoKQ7Yzw

Never forget.
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September 15, 2022 8:19am
- Simon
  
  Yep and there was Luxon getting all impatient with the unjaxxed. National will all in on this.
  
  Anyone who pushed the unsafe useless shit that are the covid vaccinations can be regarded as a joke.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:32am
  - Its only I
    
    I know what you mean. Many of us down here are seeing the next election as a way to temporarily slow down the flow of effluent into the beehive nothing more. Its still unclear if the Lux sux or blows but he is certainly willing to be pushed around by Labour and its MSN at the moment.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:21am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I want to see her crumble at or before the Election.
      Am I being mean or sadistic after what Jaspinda has done?
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:51am
      - alloytoo
        
        No.
        
        Other’s share your view.
        
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        September 15, 2022 11:32am
    - leoj
      
      (Mod – if you want your posts to be posted and not deleted then I suggest you go and read the comment policy now https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/03/kiwiblog_content_and_comments.html)
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:40pm
- R
  
  We all just need to respect everyone’s individual decisions. ~ Jacinda Ardern
  
  The PM is two-faced. Where was the respect for Charlotte Bellis who was publicly criticised by Minister Hipkins? Where was the respect for the 3 Northland women? The KFC worker? Where was the respect for doctors and nurses (among many others) who refused to be jabbed? They lost their jobs!
  
  Meanwhile, we learn that 22,000-30,000 healthy young people, not previously infected with Covid, would need to receive a booster in order to prevent one hospitalisation from Covid. The benefits of vaccination didn’t and don’t match the hype.
  
  Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade ≥3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities.
  
  The PM can talk about respect all she likes, but it’s quite clear she doesn’t respect herself. Why then should we respect her?
  
  https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Paraphrased “Nobody will be force to take the vaccine, and those who opt out will not be punished” JA.
    That was a blatant whopper fucking lie.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Paul Joseph Watson at his best. Jaspinda should be forced to watch this video, but she will be protected from it.
  Never forget what she has done to OUR New Zealand – not R. T. Rower.
  Dumped it on Facebook to see if mods object. If they do I will refer them to Paul Joseph Watson. I am just the messenger.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:49am
  - Nickc2
    
    Where’s this video Steve?
    
    (Mod – in ClanMcleod‘s post)
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:17am
    - Nickc2
      
      TKS
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:06am
    - Nickc2
      
      No doubt NZs Stasi will be paying Watson a visit when they have time between observing Ram Raids.
      
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      September 15, 2022 12:18pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      yeah sorry, it is quite a few sub comments above – which increased through the day. I should have linked back
      
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      September 16, 2022 9:29am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Thanks Mod
      
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      September 16, 2022 9:33am
- Observer of Life
  
  Clan: I can assure you our household will NEVER forget. 🤬
  
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  September 15, 2022 6:34pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    And great video by Mr Watson too. That should be broadcast on all MSM sites, at 6pm, daily, for at least a week.
    
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    September 15, 2022 6:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

A bullying Labour MP…. How can that be?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/129827684/fresh-bullying-allegations-against-labour-mp-anna-lorck-mp-says-shes-working-with-a-leadership-coach
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September 15, 2022 8:20am
- Harry Knuts
  
  and there’s the admission in itself – “working with a leadership coach”. If there was nothing there, then why work with a leadership coach?? just saying…
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:31am
- pdm
  
  Maggy – her new CV that will be required next year will include bully and airhead as well as the unpublishable ones that are well known within the Tukituki electorate.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:32am
- Simon
  
  “A bullying Labour MP”
  
  Referred to as survival of the fittest by the left.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:34am
  - riffer
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    How’s that Sam Uffindell inquiry going?
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:13am
    - Harry Knuts
      
      Uffindell – decades ago when young and very stupid and probably somewhat entitled and being dealt with by being suspended while the enquiry is in progress
      Bullying Labour MP – still actively working and employed and not stood down with an enquiry and fresh (not decades ago) accusations and well and truly old enough to know better about their behaviour.
      hardly comparable. try again.
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:05am
      - Nickc2
        
        Add Anna Lork to Harry’s post. She’s still strutting her bullying tactics unabated by her Labour colleagues.
        
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        September 15, 2022 11:24am
      - Paulus
        
        Anna is your typical Labour Chardonnay, drinking still, Socialist as long as you know who she is !
        
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        September 15, 2022 1:16pm
    - Ghost
      
      Interesting isn’t it, an inquiry into bullying, labour seem to not understand what that is. They could learn from national on how to investigate claims against mp’s bullying claims and staff claims of bullying and worse going on in labour mp’s offices.
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:09am
    - Lance
      
      Squirrel release fail
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:20am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  “Working with a leadership coach”. Bah hah! No coach can change your underlying personality traits. So a daft woman making stupid comments to try and ensure her political survival.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:35am
  - pdm
    
    IVV – unless she has been cuddling up to some one in the Labour hierarchy in Wellington who can get her a very high list place she is a goner.
    
    Don’t rule out the cuddling up bit though – she has form.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:11am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      She’s not a List MP.
      
      She managed to take the Tukituki electorate off the Nats.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tukituki_(New_Zealand_electorate)
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:25am
      - pdm
        
        My MP Maggy – I was of the view that most readers would know she was Tukituki MP.
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:38am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      Why is the suggestion that a woman has exchanged sexual favours for professional advancement, always taken as an accusation against the woman?
      
      The greater sinner in such cases, is the man, who has either (a) blackmailed the woman by withholding deserved promotions unless she submits to his sexual demands or (b) given undeserved promotion, at the expense of more deserving candidates, as a reward for sex.
      
      In case (a) she’s a victim of vilely unprofessional behaviour, in case (b) he’s an idiot, his bosses are idiots squared, and she’s turned that male idiocy to her own advantage. Good for her.
      
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      September 15, 2022 9:27am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Sorry Albert, but what sort of logic is that? There’s the small flaw that she probably wasn’t good enough to make it, so turned it up to get favours that allowed her to get a job she wasn’t qualified for. There was a lot of talk in the States about Kamala Harris in a similar situation. And everything that has been seen of her pretty much proves it. And even more crucially, if the woman thought she was THAT good, she’d say fuck off, leave and get another job at the level she wanted.
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:33am
      - pdm
        
        AR – if you are talking about Anna Lorck it is well known that she has form.
        
        According to a well informed source who told me this a few weeks ago her current nickname in the electorate is `sticky knickers’. She has had worse nicknames dating back to high school – she has been known to our family that long.
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:42am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Sorry, In Vino Veritas, clearly I have got it all wrong. Please help me understand.
        
        What am I supposed to think of a man who has the power to decide whether or not to promote a woman, and who bases that decision not on whether she’s any good at her job but rather on whether or not she’s prepared to sleep with him?
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:47am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        I knew a guy went to a job interview 30 years back in print media, and was in waiting room with a lady who turned to him before going in for her interview (before him) and said “I’m getting this job”. She came out 30 minutes later with hair and clothing ruffled and a job offer.
        
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        September 15, 2022 10:57am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        I’m not arguing as to whether or not this particular woman did or didn’t sleep her way to her present position. I don’t know, I’d never heard of her until this post.
        
        I’m saying that if she, or any other woman, was or is able to do that, then the men involved are very stupid, very corrupt, or both, and capable of thinking only with their dicks.
        
        Why aren’t we talking about them?
        
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        September 15, 2022 11:52am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Albert, appears I’m not allowed to respond directly to your comment. What are you supposed to think? You are supposed to think the bloke and the woman are as bad as each other. It is a nil sum game here Albert, they are both ho’s. Same as big Harv Weinstein and all those wannabe actresses. Their desperation for a job and his favour matched Weinstein’s sexual appetite. None of them were put up against a wall and told to turn it up or take a bullet. And don’t give me a load of bollocks about power. Power is where you allow it to be.
        
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        September 15, 2022 1:05pm
- nathie
  
  Check out the porkies coming out from Ms Lorck and Labour (eg “Both Labour and I take our obligations to staff very seriously and I will keep doing all I can to improve in this area.”), all of this is contradicted by the other Office Staffers and their statements in the article.
  
  Labour and Lorck aren’t showing any genuine contrition, and if that’s not bad enough, they continue to act contrary to their spin.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:44am
- nathie
  
  Curiously enough Stuff repeat the Labour smear against Dr Sharma.
  
  The issue has come into the open after now-expelled Labour MP Gaurav Sharma was denied new staff due to his behaviour towards them. He subsequently waged a public war against Labour and was expelled from the party.
  
  As far as I recall, only the NZ Herald published an anonymous counter claim by a supposed former staffer against Dr Sharma (eg were they one of the Labour Party aligned staffers assigned to Sharma or someone neutrally appointed by Parliamentary Services)? Otherwise the media relied on Labour Party statements that accused Dr Sharma of bullying his staff.
  
  So is there a case for Dr Sharma to seek legal advice on this matter, to put the record straight with the MSM at the very least, or even Labour?
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:00am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Not legal action, but a Complaint to the Media Council.
    If they are going to spread misinformation then we should complain and make them play by their own rules.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:28am
  - Paulus
    
    Sharma is just keeping his powder dry – watch this space !
    
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    September 15, 2022 1:19pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  To be fair Maggy, if I had spent six months working for Ms Lorck, I’d probably need mental health support too, not to mention counselling for alcohol withdrawal.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  On the piss again?
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:01am
kowtow

Coughlan going all republican in today’s Ferald , which seems to have no coverage of the shooting at police and planes stopped , anyway , these republicans keep pushing only one side of the equation .

Get rid of the Crown , but retain the Treaty .

By the same token how about ;

Get rid of the Treaty , but retain the Crown.

Surely it must be able to work both ways .
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September 15, 2022 8:21am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Treaty is only 3 Articles. How much bullshit can you squeeze out of 3 Articles?
  1 is one paragraph.
  2 is one paragraph.
  3 is three paragraphs.
  
  Bin it.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:07am
  - riffer
    
    Excellent idea. Let’s all be Maori.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:14am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Hmm, don’t think that would be great riffer. Inter tribal disputes, high child abuse numbers, high unemployed, bad habits that lead to early death. If it’s OK, I’ll stay a white guy.
      
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      September 15, 2022 10:39am
    - Don Beckett
      
      That’s what my older brother (RIP) said 20 years ago which would have ended all the divisive crap we are having to put up with now.
      
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      September 15, 2022 10:46am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Nice idea, pass act of parliament that allows everyone to be whatever Iwi they prefer, with all rights and privilege’s associated. Spread the benefits of being Maori to all NZers so that we can elect competent non-racist leadership to Iwis and ensure that there are no longer any second class citizens in NZ.
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:01am
    - kowtow
      
      What a yummy idea.
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:15am
    - rouppe
      
      Or…
      
      Let’s all be New Zealanders.
      
      That way your version of diversity and inclusion doesn’t have to exclude all non Maori
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:17pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      No, let’s all be fuckwits like the troll riffer
      
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      September 16, 2022 9:34am
ClanMcleod

Denmark leading the way in governments’ with intelligent people at the helm. Vaccines now banned for anyone under 50.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/denmark-bans-covid-vaccines-almost-everyone-age-50/

NZ will get there in a year or two. Maybe once Ardern leaves for the UN.
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September 15, 2022 8:21am
- ClanMcleod
  
  A downtick for the removal of vaccines……..it must be Michael Baker. 🤣
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:34am
  - Michael J Baker
    
    Not me! Mr Lockdown is Michael ‘G’ Baker.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:09am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      It must have been a tough couple of years for you, Michael J.
      
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      September 15, 2022 8:15pm
  - pdm
    
    Or Siouxie Wiles or Rob Jackson or that fellow Plank.
    
    After all their government money tree has just had a couple of branches lopped off.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:13am
- Simon
  
  Banned for under 50. Alarm bells should be ringing.
  
  Cancer screening for the team of 5 million. We have got this.
  
  If you are jaxxed you need to rethink your entire health lifestyle.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:39am
- R
  
  To be fair, it’s the booster that has been banned for the vast majority of under 50s, as most Danes have been vaccinated. But given the study above which indicated that 22,000-30,000 healthy young people would need to be vaccinated (thus exposing some to serious side-effects) to prevent just one hospitalisation from covid, it’s no surprise that Denmark has taken such action.
  
  People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population.
  
  https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/Vaccination-against-COVID-19
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:11am
  - mawm
    
    Scare the shit out of your voters and then take their life raft away? The Danish government must be having a good hard look at the data on the long-term problems presented by this “vaccine” and its cumulative effect.
    
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    September 15, 2022 1:51pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Don’t be confused by terminology, R.
    
    2 shots plus one booster = 3 shots.
    
    The jab is the jab is the jab.
    
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    September 15, 2022 8:17pm
In Vino Veritas

Lately finished reading Peter Fitzsimons book “Tobruk”. A good read giving an insight into the siege from both sides perspectives. What was more interesting was the Australian High Command demanding that they have their Generals at the top of the tree, as they were suspicious of the British after they had used Australians and New Zealanders as cannon fodder in the 1st World War. And then, Churchill ordered most of the Aussies out of Africa and into Greece, along with bringing NZr’s. Churchill KNEW that Greece would undoubtedly fall, along with those Aussies and NZr’s.
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September 15, 2022 8:32am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  After the Breaker Morant Court Martial, the Aussies refused to have their men tried by British Court Martials.
  
  The Brits did not like it when their Generals were outshone by the Aussies Amateurs like Monash in WW 1
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:44am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Same in Africa WW2. The Brits left the Aussies to die or be captured in Tobruk (to be fair, along with British artillerymen and Indians). General Blamey was repeatedly refused permission by Auchinleck and Churchill to evacuate the Aussies, even though they were utterly exhausted and at the end of their tether. In the end, as he had been given total control over the Australians in Africa, he demanded Auchinleck order their evacuation. Auchinleck capitulated. Morsehead was outstanding commanding the Tobruk garrison. His defensive tactics against Rommel were quite brilliant.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:00am
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      Rommel said
      
      ” If I was ordered to take Hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it”
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:20am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Yep, and we had the Maoris. One of the opponents most most feared by the Germans. And the Maoris paid for it in blood. Their casualty rate was extreme in WW2. 2,361 of 3,600 killed or wounded. 65% casualty rate.
        
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        September 15, 2022 1:13pm
      - kowtow
        
        IVV
        
        Those rates sound like very poor leadership or sheer recklessness.
        
        Reflect for a moment how you people constantly bag British generals for high and pointless casualties while glorifying the same in one particular battalion.
        
        Too much Maori Channel tv methinks.
        
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        September 15, 2022 1:45pm
- kowtow
  
  Peter Fitz Bloody Simon .
  
  God help us.
  
  Wokest of the woke.
  
  No thanks.
  
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  September 15, 2022 1:48pm
  - Nickc2
    
    He wasn’t a bad Rugby player in his day but his day’s long gone. Now, he’s just a shit-stirring bozo struggling for relevance.
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:17pm
Benedict Yu

I had trouble sleeping so reviwed the data on natural immunity from the latest omicron variants. The story is quite compelling with protection both higher and much longer lasting than the protection afforded by the vaccines.

https://youtu.be/SN7cX_linEA

It is scandalous that the Government is running ads urging all people who have been infected to then get a 3rd and 4th vaccine dose.
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September 15, 2022 8:33am
- ClanMcleod
  
  BY – I just got back home, haven’t had a chance yet to address your post last week re the all cause mortality in jabbed v unjabbed. I’ll get onto it soon.
  
  In the meanwhile, this post from Doctor Malcolm Kendrick discusses one of the main problems we are facing in working out what the hell has just occurred over the last few years. The mangling of statistics.
  
  How many people have been infected with Sars-Cov2? How many have died? I believe we can only really guess. Worldometer, as of the tenth of September 2022, confidently informed me there have been around six hundred million people infected with COVID19 worldwide (613,234,326). The number of deaths is just over six million (6,514,989)1.
  
  Quite remarkably, this represents infection fatality rate of pretty much bang on one per cent. As predicted by Imperial College London and Professor Neill Ferguson. Take a bow that man? Or perhaps not. How many people think that those figures are remotely accurate? Certainly not me. Just to start with, do we really believe that ninety per cent of people have managed to avoid a Sars-Cov2 infection?
  
  https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2022/09/14/covid19-so-many-questions-so-few-real-answers/
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:46am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    I’d have to agree with the last sentence Clan. My daughter was in a university hall. Everytime someone on their floor got it, they had to do the 10 day isolation. So they all got together and tried to get CoVid. They shared space, huddled together, girls shared beds with infected girls. When my wife and I got it, she came home. She lived at her best friends place when her friend had it. She tested all the time. Nothing. At one point, she got a sore throat and tested and tested. Nothing. I would be a dollar to a knob of goat shit that she’s had it. It’s just too much of a leap to believe that she wouldn’t catch it from all the contact she has had.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:16am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Govt has to keep handing out advertising dollars to Legacy media on whatever pretexts they can find in order to keep them parroting govt propaganda and not criticising them or asking uncomfortable questions.
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:22am
Pongo

If you want to ruin your day listen to Chris Bishop on HDPs ZB show yesterday. Aside from the arrogant dismissive attitude he was literally on there defending the new density rules on behalf of Labour.
Its not needed in Christchurch, we have affordable houses, plenty of development land, a CBD that has plenty of stock and so much spare under used land surrounding the city we could quadruple our area. Bishop thinks its fine to go into surburbia and plunge your neighbour into the dark for 9 months of the year and their garden for 12 months.
I have a rental and if this goes ahead he has just made my neighbours house saleproof.
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September 15, 2022 8:40am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Mr Bishop was just as arrogantly dismissive of anyone questioning the covid jabs a few months ago. I’ve emailed him a number of times now to ask what his latest position is. Not even an automated reply so I would have to presume I’m in the “I don’t want to talk to them” basket. lol
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:49am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, the more I hear from Luxon and Bishop, the more my initial fears about Nation under Luxon come back to haunt me.
    IMO, to use a Rugby analogy, they’re not taking the easy kicks at goal, let alone converting their own tries.
    Far too woke I fear, so if this continues, I’m shifting my allegiance to ACT.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:43am
    - rouppe
      
      I already have.
      
      Even if Luxon and national do appear to “come right” before the election, I believe they need at least one big scare by way of becoming government only with a fairly substantial ACT caucus.
      
      Otherwise they’ll not do anything significant
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:24pm
    - MikeMan
      
      That is the only option at this point I think. None of the startups have a hope in hell and all we can do is give ACT and David Seymour enough pull to reign in the woke Nats.
      
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      September 15, 2022 2:12pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  It is not an issue I have followed much, but I did notice that the Christchurch Council has voted to ‘not implement’ the National Policy Statement issued under the RMA.
  
  https://environment.govt.nz/what-government-is-doing/areas-of-work/urban-and-infrastructure/housing-intensification-enabled-by-rma-amendment-act/
  
  AFAIK such a decision by the Council is unlawful. The Council cannot adopt a resolution to act unlawfully. The Government would now have grounds to sack the Council and replace it with Commissioners, especially if National is onside. I doubt they will go down that track because of the possible electoral fallout in Christchurch. More likely the Government will look to negotiate a compromise.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:21am
  - 7kiwi11
    
    It’s not needed in in Auckland either. The Unitary Plan already allowed for extra housing. It is our capacity to build the required houses vs years of high immigration that is creating the housing shortage. The Auckland Council is now adding their own rules to counter any adverse effects of the Bill that will essentially rule out development viability of many sites, meaning many smaller developers will will be out of the game. The result of this Bill is going to mean less, but more expensive, houses built. IMO it will mean a better outcome design wise but it will make affordability worse.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:39am
- Gravelroad
  
  I don’t find anything impressive about Mr Bishop – at all.
  Am beginning to think he is in the wrong party.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:28am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I was impressed before he went mental on vaccine mandates. IIRC he wanted to ban the unvaccinated from being able to buy food. So did Judith Collins.
    
    I don’t really get how normally sane people went down this track. The best theory I have is that politicians find it hard to change tack with changing evidence. Initially we were told the vaccines were 95 percent effective. Within months that was obviously proven to be a lie. But but then it was too late. The politicians both in National and Labour had staked their reputations on policies designed to exclude the ‘dangerous and selfish’ unvaccinated. To this very day, you will not find any admission from Jacinda (or Bishop) that the vaccines may be anything other than ‘safe and effective’. You just need to look at the ads they are still running urging parents to vaccinate their children.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:49am
  - Charmaine Hawke
    
    I have thought that for ages. I have the misfortune to be in an association with his Dad and the apple doesn’t fall too far from that tree.
    
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    September 15, 2022 9:57am
    - Nukuleka
      
      I was at school with Mr Bishop Snr. I’d have to second your observation, Charmaine.
      
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      September 15, 2022 10:44am
  - kowtow
    
    Bishop used to be their go to John Wayne guy for firearms legislation tough talk .
    
    Nicole McKee now fills that role admirably , to the Nat’s loss.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:48am
Ghost

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/bodies-in-suitcases-woman-arrested-in-south-korea/HE4GO5RVPH3AV6WQY2WUIGGIMM/

A 42-year-old woman has been arrested over the alleged murder of two young children whose remains were discovered in abandoned suitcases in Manurewa.
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September 15, 2022 8:46am
Yvette

Maori language
The results of a study published last year in the Journal of the Royal Society Interface said modelling showed that “if proficient teachers, who are predominantly Māori, are spread across the whole population, this is detrimental to the language trajectory in the population as a whole, because the limited pool of teachers is spread too thinly.

“Our results suggest that resources should be focused on… supporting whānau and iwi to realise te reo as an everyday language.”
In other words, teaching non-Māori who aren’t going to use the language every day and pass it on to their children may actually hamper the te reo revitalisation programme, at least in its early stages … [an] “unintentional interference from the country’s white majority”.

He recommended prioritising teaching te reo in “early childhood education for the minority [Māori] group” in order to “avoid overpowering the voices of the group they intended to assist”.

The question must be asked: Have Pakeha — despite their good intentions — suddenly become the bad guys in the push to revitalise te reo right now?

It’s difficult to interpret the Royal Society’s study in any other way.
https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/are-pakeha-really-the-bad-guys-in-the-demise-of-te-reo

This Newsroom article is worth reading for the pakeha side of Maori “punished” for using their own language, when in the 50s and 60s I knew boys who were caned for not being able to answer questions about Latin or algebra. I have seen some of the black and blue bruising and contusions.
It then asks, as indicated above, who will actually teach te reo Maori – and more exactly: to whom?
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September 15, 2022 8:53am
- 7kiwi11
  
  Have you not learnt yet? Pakeha are always that bad guys. Hetero, male, middle aged+ even more so.
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:49am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Not to mention the standardisation of teaching te reo means the loss of regional Maori accents. Apparently.
  
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  September 15, 2022 8:50pm
ClanMcleod

Welcome to the great reset and the “Green New Deal”.

“welcome to the “subsidize demand and arrest anyone who tries to take advantage of the price caps” stage of the greendemic of darkness sweeping the globe as deeply unserious people propose deeply unserious “solutions” to entirely avoidable problems of their own making.”

Switzerland considers JAILING anyone who heats rooms above 19C for up to three years if the country is forced to ration gas due to Ukraine war

blaming all this on putin and his ukrainian adventurism is just plain wrong. sure, that might have been the snowflake that started the slide moving, but this avalanche has been getting ready to crush the village for a decade because the simple fact is this: “green energy” as currently conceived makes no sense.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/eu-physics-denial-has-come-home-to?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

The Greenies have completely lost the plot and are becoming dangerously deranged. Stay alert.
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September 15, 2022 9:00am
- Clownworld
  
  2022 Year of the Manufactured Crisis.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:19am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Switzerland has binding citizens initiated referenda to beat back this kind of fascism.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:12am
- Nickc2
  
  If the Greens ever had any relevance, they’ve lost it!
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:53am
Suze Wainwright

Wow! I see Chris Trotter has opined that young Maori, tertiary qualified, fluent in Te Reo and earning a six-figure salary from a government agency might find that they’re not well received by those Maori crammed into motels, on minimum wage, feeling inadequate because they can’t speak their language and micro-managed by MSD.

Reminds me a bit of the line in the musical Hair, where Abraham Lincoln is referred to as the emanci-mother f@*^ing-pator of the slaves…
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September 15, 2022 9:00am
Maggy Wassilieff

Instead of focusing on her Housing and Energy portfolios, Megan Woods is planning out Next Year’s Election strategy for Labour.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/labours-2023-campaign-in-a-post-covid-era
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September 15, 2022 9:04am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Megan has never been focused on her portfolios Maggy. The outcomes we are seeing from both are proof. The woman has no idea what she is doing in either of them. They may as well have put a cardboard cutout of her in the big seat. It would be just as clever.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  Before Megan thinks about next year’s election, maybe she needs to think about how her plans for land use intensification are being received in her own home city. Two days ago, Christchurch City Council rejected Minister Woods’ Housing Ministry plans for land intensification and the building of high rise apartments in parts of Christchurch’s residential suburbs.
  
  Why the rejection:
  1. Intensification would ruin the character and skyline of the suburbs;
  2. Chch doesn’t have the infrastructure to accommodate such intensification; and
  3. Chch doesn’t have the population or demand to warrant such intensification.
  
  Once again this is a case of the government imposing on NZers the ideology of the Greens, over rated academics and assorted hangers on, without any justification.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:39am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Election strategy to win is far more important than building houses especially for the homeless/transitional ones in motels. (sarc)
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:50am
- kowtow
  
  She’s crashed both , here’s hoping for the trifecta.
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:22am
- Its only I
  
  For Labour the beehive is the theme roomed hotel, portfolios being the themes….every meeting is them all asking “what are you dressed up as today?”
  
  All dress up and make believe fantasy.
  
  Nothing about any of those people in that building is about the population who put them there, it’s just about them being there, the perks and keeping the free party going for as long as possible.
  
  NZ is the best country in the world because it my home and it just is, but its politics has never been so fundamentally rotten….and for all intents and purposes, impotent!
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:53am
ClanMcleod

Guy Hatchard who was ridiculed and slandered by Michael Laws on The Platform has written an excellent article in The Conservative Woman.
Apparently there was an effort made to get Hatchard on to Law’s show to have a debate with him and Laws chickened out. Lowlife pos.

No wonder Jacinda said very few will need another booster. She knows. I wrote to her a few weeks ago with the statistics and her office replied in double-quick time – it said Ayesha Verrall (the Minister for Covid Response) had been asked to look into it.

The penny has dropped, but it is probably too early for the powers-that-be to publicly admit they have been duped by biotech vaccine fanatics intent on maintaining the gravy train of government funding.

Tens of thousands adversely affected by unnecessary vaccine mandates and those injured by vaccines have been ignored and left behind.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-covid-gravy-train-is-slowed-now-derail-it/
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September 15, 2022 9:08am
- kevn
  
  @Clan… Guy Hatchard has his own site dailytelegraph.co.nz
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:41am
surfing

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/shaw-absolutely-supports-davidson-s-comments-about-monarchy-s-colonialist-legacy-during-queen-tributes/ar-AA11PXyG?cvid=dd0eb85ef18049c4ad23c16a68f38701

Every person alive has ancestors that suffered at the hand’s of someone else’s ancestors.

Maori have to stop whining and get on with life.

And besides, many maori would have been quite happy with colonisation. Slaves and lower status maori wouldn’t have had a particularly pleasant life. Of course we don’t hear so much about these people, because the narrative comes from the ‘chiefs’ .
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September 15, 2022 9:15am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes exactly. For much of the 20th century, Taiwan experienced mass violence. Maybe 20,000 people were massacred. Martial Law was in place until the late 1980s.
  
  Did Taiwan become a thriving, rich democracy by the Government encouraging a grievance mentality? No.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:56am
- Benedict Yu
  
  These folk are deluded. ALL of the counter-factuals to what happened to Maori in New Zealand are way worse than what actually happened:
  
  There could have been no Treaty and mass killings (see Australian Aboriginals).
  
  There could have been sporadic settlement and resource plundering, with Maori left to tribal warfare (see PNG).
  
  The French could have arrived. “You are all French. Get back to work.” (see French West Africa)
  
  The Spanish could have arrived. All Maori killed.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:05am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘There could have been no Treaty and mass killings (see Australian Aboriginals).’
    
    Citation required .
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:24am
    - Matt Long
      
      Ask Google where the Tasmanian aboriginals are.
      
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      September 15, 2022 12:11pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        In Tasmania? Remarkable as perhaps the only example of a human culture outside of arctic that ever lost the ability to make/use fire.
        
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        September 15, 2022 12:33pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        And check out the list of massacres from NSW, Vic, WA, SA, Qld and NT
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians
        
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        September 15, 2022 12:39pm
hullkiwi

Dame Whina broke through last night with local and central government politicians celebrating!

However, as I see it, it is an example of Dunning Kruger, or a case of politicians and bureaucrats not knowing how stupid they are while try to tell the population they are for waste $billions on unnecessary bling.

From the article below, you can read Goofy celebrating that Aotea Station will cater for 54,000 people per hour, and that this is future proofing Auckland, really?

At its peak (pre Covid) Auckland’s CBD had a daytime population of 140k to 150k, and guess what? Very little of that population needed to go through the Aotea area then. And if you see the area today, very little of the population will use it in the future!

What the politicians, the bureaucrats and the lobbyists (mainly the Greens and the Transport Blog hangers on) don’t get is that CRL and expensive PT bling are yesterday and further excessive investment is a waste of money.

Auckland (and the other NZ centres) & every other main centre in the world is experiencing the same phenomenon, which is people are working from home and this phenomenon will become permanent. Making big office blocks in CBDs and extensive cross city/region PT transport networks redundant. This is the new norm legacy of Covid.

Major centres around the world including cities in Europe, UK, USA and Australia are finding patronage on PT is at levels of 55% to 65% of pre Covid levels, and car travel to work is circa 90% of pre Covid (source is UPT). The new Elizabeth Line (Crossrail) has achieved less than 50% of planned patronage (based on projections when the contracts were signed by Boris and Gordon Brown).

So, Goofy is not future proofing PT in Auckland. Instead he is saddling Auckland with PT bling that will be under utilised, and saddling NZ with unnecessary debt!

As I say, a living example of Dunning Kruger. Stop Light Rail in Auckland before it is too late.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/09/auckland-s-city-rail-link-project-one-step-closer-to-completion-with-tunnelling-complete.html
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September 15, 2022 9:27am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I was in Auckland last week for the first time in ages. Walking down Queen Street it had a seriously third world vibe.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:33am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Agreed.
    
    If there is one thing that depresses me, it is what Auckland City politicians, bureaucrats and assorted hangers on have done to a once bustling city centre. All in the name of creating a pedestrianised zone in Queen Street.
    
    These people have been killing Queen Street for years (but they will not see it). Covid has hastened matters, but the final death knell will be the banning or restricting access by car to the city centre. While at the same time they waste $billions on transport bling which was never needed.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:50am
    - Matt Long
      
      No, no , no, all we have to do to make the city center thrive is get cars out of there, that way all plebs who can only afford public transport will shop(lift) up large while the people who want to shop in their cars to carry stuff home will go elsewhere or online.
      The council and government nobs will have plenty of room for their taxpayer provided chauffeured limos too.
      
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      September 15, 2022 12:17pm
  - Lance
    
    I consider Auckland Transport as the Gestapo, they have enacted the batshit crazy plans for Auckland the lefties have schemed up. They have declared war on cars.
    I don’t anticipate going anywhere near the shit hole the Auckland CBD has become for many years (if at all).
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:27am
Benedict Yu

Denmark: No vaccines for under-50s.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20220913/covid-19-denmark-expects-to-bring-updated-jab-into-vaccination-programme/

USA: Let’s vaccinate babies.

“Pfizer says its vaccine is 80 percent effective at preventing COVID-19 infection in children 6 months to 4 years of age”. Oh OK 🙁

https://www.whattoexpect.com/news/first-year/covid19-vaccine-babies-children

New Zealand: Let’s vaccinate the infected with a 4th shot after the first 3 didn’t work.

https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/getting-covid-19-vaccine-if-youve-had-covid-19
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September 15, 2022 9:29am
- Clownworld
  
  2022 Year of the Manufactured Crisis.
  
  NZ and USA overreach is either insane or evil compared to Denmark’s response?
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:36am
- kevn
  
  @BY… Our MOH must indeed be brain dead continuing to actually push the jabs with all the overwhelmingly negative, global evidence agin it.
  Trust is long gone.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:52am
Yvette

School Strike 4 Climate – Friday 23 September
Students are gearing up to strike from school again to protest Government inaction around climate change, and they need your support!
On Friday 23 September, they’ll be calling for immediate action on climate change with rallies in Wellington, Tāmaki Makarau, Ōtautahi, New Plymouth and other locations across Aotearoa.
Strikers in Wellington will meet at Parliament to hand over their demands that includes free public transport for all, halving the herd of cows in New Zealand and introducing safe walking and cycling routes.
Climate action is also going to be an important issue in next month’s local body elections.
The Public Service Association (PSA) have contacted more than 2,400 candidates standing for election about their climate action positions. You can search for the responses from people standing in your area here.
– NZEI [New Zealand Educational Institute] Te Riu Roa newsletter – September 14, 2022

• New Zealand will commemorate Queen Elizabeth II with a state memorial and one-off public holiday on Monday, September 26.
Of this Alwyn Poole said – yesterday Kiwiblog Post – “… as it reduces by one day the time they are supposed to attend it will make the attendance figures look a bit better. Brilliant.”

“Halving the herd of cows in New Zealand” – that will be a lot of dead cows
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September 15, 2022 9:34am
- Taieri
  
  Strikers in Wellington will meet at Parliament to hand over their demands that includes free public transport for all, halving the herd of cows in New Zealand and introducing safe walking and cycling routes
  ——————
  
  I fully support all these demands and add a few of my own:
  – the heard of cows to be eliminated completely
  – all fossil fuel to be immediately banned
  – free food and housing for all New Zealanders
  – immediate pay increase of at least $20/ hour
  – shortening working week to 1 day and working hours in that day to 30 minutes
  – Dr Ardern to become the Queen of New Zealand
  and
  – all days from now on to be sunny and mild
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:07am
  - Yvette
    
    Taieri, you will have as much hope waiting for your demands to be filled by this Government of non-delivery, as today’s children – in their old age – will have, gathering on the steps of Parliament to see the last cow in New Zealand executed, in a howling southerly thunderstorm with snow around Kelburn hills – and demonstrators warming themselves by setting the Beehive on fire.
    
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    September 15, 2022 1:06pm
    - Taieri
      
      Taieri, you will have as much hope waiting for your demands to be filled
      ———–
      
      Stranger things happen.
      Although I no longer buy Lotto, my partner still does. Won $30 once.
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:48pm
  - Paulus
    
    I though it was a Herd of Cows- no wonder the education standards are so poor (or pour) !
    
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    September 15, 2022 1:31pm
    - Taieri
      
      They are, as you observed, pour:)
      
      (Arthritic fingers help in innovative spelling)
      
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      September 15, 2022 1:45pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Outlaw the Southerly!
    
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    September 15, 2022 8:55pm
- cmm
  
  Little scrotes trying to out-Greta Greta.
  
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  September 15, 2022 2:14pm
MCōs

I see a woman has been arrested in Korea for the alleged murder of the two poor kiddies found in the suitcases.
While I am of course pleased to see this has happened I’m amazed nobody noticed the little buggers absence from the face of the earth.
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September 15, 2022 9:35am
- Benedict Yu
  
  We won’t know until the trial. However it is easy to see a scenario:
  
  Family comes from Korea to New Zealand on a tourist visa. Kids not registered at school in New Zealand , or with a doctor etc.
  
  Mother goes back to Korea and tells folk that children are staying with relatives in New Zealand.
  
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  September 15, 2022 9:52am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    More complicated than that Ben.
    Apparently the father died leaving the mother in a right old state in a strange country. Very sad.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:11am
  - MCōs
    
    They had family here from what I understand & enough stuff to hire storage.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:32am
- Harry Knuts
  
  It’s all too sad and tragic in so many ways. not even gonna try and crystal ball gaze this one.
  May those poor wee kids rest in peace.
  
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  September 15, 2022 4:18pm
Benedict Yu

A risk-benefit analysis on COVID vaccines in university students in the USA. In many universities, students are barred from campus if they refuse to get a third shot.

“We estimate that 22,000 – 30,000 previously uninfected adults aged 18-29 must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one COVID-19 hospitalisation. Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males…”

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070

They are saying without doubt that vaccinating young people causes massive net harm.

These are the authors.

Kevin Bardosh
University of Washington; University of Edinburgh – Edinburgh Medical School

Allison Krug
Artemis Biomedical Communications LLC

Euzebiusz Jamrozik
University of Oxford

Trudo Lemmens
University of Toronto – Faculty of Law

Salmaan Keshavjee
Harvard University – Harvard Medical School

Vinay Prasad
University of California, San Francisco (UCSF)

Martin A. Makary
Johns Hopkins University – Department of Surgery

Stefan Baral
John Hopkins University

Tracy Beth Høeg
Florida Department of Health; Sierra Nevada Memorial Hospital
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September 15, 2022 9:43am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  This was obvious long ago but the power groupies wanted to keep the population under control.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:17am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    What is changing now is that the evidence includes larger data sets, more time has passed, and the studies are appearing in more prestigious journals, with the authors being increasingly at the top of their fields.
    
    Of course if you asked Jacinda about any of this you would just get a blank stare.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:26am
    - Its only I
      
      Jacinda has a resting blank stare. Anything else is scripted.
      
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      September 15, 2022 12:36pm
Yvette

Labour’s campaign will need to look different come 2023
Senior Labour MP Megan Woods has been reselected as the party’s campaign chair for the 2023 election. She tells political editor Jo Moir one of the biggest challenges will be debating political ideas without it dividing the nation.

… which is a reference to –
Labour’s campaign chair Megan Woods says she hopes for the sake of politics and the country that people with anti-vaccination and conspiracy views don’t become part of the candidate landscape at next year’s general election.

But in this whole Newsroom article …
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/labours-2023-campaign-in-a-post-covid-era
… the is no mention of any “co-governance conversation”
That may be a little divisive.
Especially as Ardern’s Government tries to ram “3 waters” legislation through Parliament at the moment
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September 15, 2022 10:05am
- hullkiwi
  
  So Megan’s strategy is to attack or vilify anybody/candidate with a position different to the official Labour (government) line.
  
  So much for democracy and free speech and yet more public money for FACTS Aoteoroa and Stephen Judd.
  
  Do these people ever see the irony in their positions?
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:21am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “Labour’s campaign chair Megan Woods says she hopes for the sake of politics and the country that people with anti-vaccination and conspiracy views don’t become part of the candidate landscape at next year’s general election.”
    
    This would be totally at home in 1950s America. Just delete “people with anti-vaccination and conspiracy views” and insert “communists”.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
    
    The good news is that truth and science eventually prevail. However Jacinda, Megan and their buddies will be long gone by then.
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:30am
    - kowtow
      
      The Americans were right in the ’50’s to vigorously oppose all things “communist”.
      
      This barely concealed anti Americanism is just more inner city bubble living pinko propaganda.
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:37am
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    Same with Jackson’s redefintion of democracy .
    
    This Labour party is showing its true colours , Comrade.
    
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    September 15, 2022 11:39am
- Harry Knuts
  
  “Labour’s campaign chair Megan Woods says she hopes for the sake of politics and the country that people with anti-vaccination and conspiracy views don’t become part of the candidate landscape at next year’s general election.”
  I take exception to Megan Woods dictating to a voting nation who should/shouldn’t be candidates. This of course is for the people to decide through voting. Not by her early disqualification through her position and personal point of view. How would she know what past candidates were anti-vax?? answer: she wouldn’t.
  It was probably hundreds to thousands and we never questioned it and we shouldn’t start doing this now. It is a person’s personal choice and their own business in their own health choices.
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:46am
  - Ghost
    
    Good to know Megan doesn’t believe in democracy
    
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    September 15, 2022 10:55am
    - Gravelroad
      
      She believes in whatever is necessary to get Ms Ardern and the Labour Party re-elected next year.
      Democratic values and process are just side issues.
      
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      September 15, 2022 11:21am
mandk

It’s not because there’s no evidence of it’s effectiveness.

It’s not because there’s no evidence that it is unsafe.

It’s because there’s no money to be made from a drug that costs just $0.03 a dose:

https://plandemicseries.com/thetruthaboutivermectin/
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September 15, 2022 10:10am
- hullkiwi
  
  That is the same reason why people are plied with antidepressants rather than given Vitamin D.
  
  One of the symptoms of Vitamin D deficiency is depression. Since the 1970s in Europe, the US, Australia and NZ there has been arithmetic increases in depression syndromes (often correlated with low levels of Vitamin D). The solution has been a prescribed course of antidepressants which costs significantly more than a course of Vitamin D.
  
  My experience is based on that of my wife who because of surgery in her 20s is required to supplement her diet with courses of Vitamin D, B12, Iron and calcium. We have had extensive discussions with specialists about this matter of the years.
  
  Why would the pharmaceutical industry want to supply supplements to people for a fraction of the cost when there are $billions to be made plying people with drugs that are not addressing the real issue!
  
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  September 15, 2022 10:37am
  - cmm
    
    Vit D is amazing stuff.
    If we really want to help Maori health, then Vit D would be a huge win. Many, if not most Maori, are low in Vit D. Low levels of Vit D are linked to just about every “Maori ailment” from colon cancer at one end to mental health at the other.
    
    Now that’s not at all to say that Maori would be the only people that benefit. Everyone should look into this. What I’m really saying is that all the messing about with the health system to help Maori won’t actually help them, but 10 cents a day in VitD would probably move the needle.
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Mike Lindell, the Pillow Guy. FBI took his cellphone and told hem ‘don’t tell anyone’
Right.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/report-mypillow-ceo-mike-lindells-cellphone-seized-by-fbi/?
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September 15, 2022 10:32am
Swifty

Penalties for electoral donation fraud too low?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/129600140/two-decades-of-donation-scandals–so-where-are-the-prosecutions

I’d have to agree.

If we started handing out a few lags for this stuff, for both donors and knowing recipients, I think we’d quickly see this carry on dwindle to almost nothing, if not cease altogether.
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September 15, 2022 10:49am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Similar to Labour when it comes to Math.
https://rumble.com/v1idtch-kjp-we-have-created-nearly-ten-thousand-million-jobs.html?
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September 15, 2022 10:55am
oldfella

Just spotted a reference on another blog to the Sept poll from the Taxpayers Union which appears to be good news for the centre right.
Anyone got a link, as the only poll that turned up on Google is from Aug.
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September 15, 2022 11:27am
- oldfella
  
  Just found this over on the Daily Blog.
  https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/09/15/breaking-new-poll-act-national-take-lead-chloe-twice-as-popular-as-marama-shaw-combined/
  
  (Mod – David has posted the poll https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/09/taxpayers_union_curia_poll_september_2022.html)
  
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  September 15, 2022 11:30am
cas

I got an email in my spam folder the other day. It was all in Maori so I couldn’t read it but I did understand the words United Nations and $750,000. What a shame I don’t understand Maori otherwise it might have given me a pleasant surprise.
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September 15, 2022 12:32pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Yet another Labour-led balls-up

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2209/S00083/100-million-cost-to-another-epic-fail.htm
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September 15, 2022 12:44pm
- surfing
  
  Remember the days of the failed Incis police computer system, that was a waste of 100 million (178 million in todays money) or so and was constantly reported in the media over several years. It was a national scandal.
  
  These days, 100 million lost here and there barely raises an eyebrow. eg, the cycle bridge, someone’s 50 million dollar wet dream!
  
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  September 15, 2022 1:56pm
  - MikeMan
    
    Ahhh but it is not a tax payer $100,000,000. It comes from those “Rich Prick” farmers and all goes to councils so a net win for the woke.
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:43pm
surfing

https://waikanaewatch.org/2022/06/28/dr-hylton-le-grice-i-am-simply-a-new-zealand-citizen/

Brave man for speaking out.
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September 15, 2022 1:52pm
- Nickc2
  
  It’s hard to dispute anything the author of the linked document espouses. Unfortunately, its dissemination will be extremely limited and the author also runs the risk of being canceled.
  
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  September 15, 2022 2:09pm
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    @Nick2…. It’s on Bob Jones blog now, that will ramp up readership.
    
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    September 15, 2022 8:14pm
cmm

Can anyone tell me:

Has National or ACT made a statement on the NZ Govt. Clean Car Rebate/Fee/Fine that pings people buying vehicles (for work or fun) between about $1500 and $7000 depending on how sinful they think the vehicle is?

If National or ACT are opposed to this, then they should make a statement – loud and often – that this will be gone by lunchtime on their first day in office. Otherwise we can only assume that they’re just as keen as Labour/Green to punish people.

While $2 to $7k might not impact a buying decision when the election is 12 months out, but come July next year some people might put off vehicle purchases hoping that they will get a better deal.
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September 15, 2022 2:06pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Luxon has told us that he’s ‘deeply committed’ to Net Zero by 2050.
  
  https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/04/05/ets-should-do-heavy-lifting-to-tackle-climate-change-luxon/
  
  Although he thinks that the ETS is the way to go.
  So, not sure if you can rely on National to rid us of idiotic sin taxes.
  
  Big sigh. Somebody needs to educate him about what a ‘crisis’ is.
  
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  September 15, 2022 2:15pm
  - Nickc2
    
    IMO, this Climate Change Net Zero scam will be long forgotten by 2050. Luxon certainly won’t be the leader of the National Party in 2050 even if Political Parties retain their current titles long enough.
    This Net Zero scam has about the same longevity as Cindy’s Most Honest and Transparent Govt promise.
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:27pm
  - cmm
    
    National’s slogan for 2023: “Labour, just better”
    
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    September 15, 2022 2:41pm
Chris Nisbet

Maybe so, but a whole lot of damage can be done before then.
Germany have spent ~1/2 trillion euros wrecking their electricity system, resulting in a lower standard of living for the regular folk, with zero benefit to the climate. I don’t expect our leaders will learn from their disastrous policies.
Me, I’ve just had my highest electricity bill ever, despite suffering through the warmest winter on record. After seeing a story about some new wind farm, and the prospect of pumped hydro (because not enough rain falls from the sky in NZ), I expect it’ll only get worse, despite claims that ‘green’ energy is cheap.
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September 15, 2022 3:03pm
- Chris Nisbet
  
  Dunno what happened here – my comment was meant to be a reply to Nickc2’s net zero comment.
  
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  September 15, 2022 3:07pm
Alan Wilkinson

I see Wellington has decided to reduce 80% of its roads to 30kph speed limits. Perfect for bureaucrats in no hurry to do nothing and get paid a lot.
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September 15, 2022 3:37pm
Ghost

Californian couple whinge their children won’t have HRH tittles

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/queen-elizabeth-death-prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-children-will-not-get-hrh-titles/G7LFP45HIERHVQKRYTYJSCOEPI/
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September 15, 2022 4:08pm
greybeard

So Lotto and the other products are “random” when it comes to picking numbers ?
Did you know:
The prize for Division 7 in Powerball is $15 plus a Bonus Lotto ticket, and that for Division 7 in Lotto is a Bonus Lotto ticket.

These Bonus tickets consist of 4 lines each of 6 numbers.

I discovered some time ago that these Bonus Tickets have a worrying peculiarity: NO number on a 4-line ticket is repeated on that ticket !
i.e. of the range of 40 numbers ( 1 – 40 ) the 24 numbers printed on the ticket are all unique.

This suggests to me that the selection is NOT random but determined by a computer program.

When the 6 Lotto numbers are drawn , If the FIRST number drawn appears on one of your 4 lines, then THAT LINE becomes the ONLY line which could win the first prize ( unlike normal Lucky Dip tickets, where numbers can appear on more than one of the lines, thereby increasing the likelihood of winning).and one of these numbers appears on a line on the Bonus ticket, it will NEVER appear on any of the other 3 lines.

I am no mathematician or expert in probability, but this would seem to be a deliberate ploy to negate the odds of a Bonus ticket winning any major Lotto prizes.

And more worrying: if this type of ticket can be manipulated by the Lotteries Commission, then what other dubious practices are being perpetrated in the draws for Bullseye and Keno ?

We are never shown how these numbers are selected , unlike the live Lotto / Powerball draws.

Just which system is used to select supposedly “random” Keno and Bullseye numbers ?

If it was up to me I would use the well-proven numbers balls-in-a-bucket system, selected by someone in the crowd.

I smell a rat.
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September 15, 2022 5:06pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129889484/man-who-possessed-hundreds-of-images-of-young-girls-was-hired-to-take-school-photos
The man’s name has been published: why?
Because he is white ?
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September 15, 2022 5:10pm
- Ghost
  
  Because there is no reason for name suppression, no victims to protect
  
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  September 15, 2022 5:19pm
Ghost

Videos like this show why you should question what you see on the news, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr8yEgu7sHU
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September 15, 2022 5:20pm
Ghost

Laughing, Andrew gets an applause then afterwards has to say that what they were applauding for wasn’t on the cards.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/129895658/andrew-little-earns-applause–for-the-wrong-reason–at-nurses-conference
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September 15, 2022 6:04pm
Grunt

‘Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi said they retained their policy to remove the monarch as the sovereign power and develop a constitution with Tiriti o Waitangi at the centre.’ From the Newstalk ZB website.
Has this idiot not read the treaty? Drop the Monarchy and have a treaty – with the Monarchy – at the centre of a constitution! I think he is being schooled by motor-mouth-contradict-myself-every-second-line Jackson.
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September 15, 2022 7:02pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Democrat ballot harvesting mule talks to a policeman (recorded on bodycam) about the operation he worked for in Texas. Was paid $200 per ballot. https://rumble.com/v1k19xr-former-tarrant-county-democratic-party-chair-and-candidate-implicated-in-ba.html
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September 15, 2022 7:49pm
Ghost

Umm, ahhh, hmmmm, no words

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2022/09/chess-star-hans-niemann-denies-rumours-he-used-a-sex-toy-to-help-him-win-against-world-champion.html

In the most strange twist seen in a game of chess, a teenage grandmaster has been forced to shut down rumours he used a sex toy to help him win.

Hans Niemann, 19, is an up-and-coming chess star who was accused online of using anal beads connected to a computer programme that would vibrate and give him the perfect move to defeat world No. 1 grandmaster Magnus Carlsen.
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September 15, 2022 7:50pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  That’s enough for me tonight. Going to bed. Will read about the ABs in the morning. (No, not the anal beads.)
  
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