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NeverMindTheBollocks

Boris will be spitting tacks!
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September 9, 2022 8:04am
DimChappie

Hooton in the Herald today on Luxon. Paywalled so here is the highlight: “Christopher Luxon’s coalition should be at least 10 points ahead, the way John Key’s was in 2007, Helen Clark’s in 1998 and the various opposition parties in 1992. With his net favourable rating below zero, Luxon is dragging his side down. His media performances suggest lamentable knowledge of New Zealand’s recent political and economic history. If he can’t lift his game, will we soon need to have a talk about Christopher?”
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September 9, 2022 8:12am
- Scott
  
  I think Chris Luxon is doing a reasonable job. The main reasons that National are not 10 points ahead include –
  – the popularity of Adern. She smiles nicely and communicates nicely and many many New Zealanders genuinely believe that she has saved us from covid.
  – Much of the New Zealand middle-class has in some ways become very radical. Wokeness has become the new religion and they are all for climate change, homosexuality, transgender and all things Maori.
  – The complete ideological selling out of the New Zealand media who are not only bought and paid for but love all things Jacinda.
  – The crushing of all dissent through political correctness, big tech collusion and the mainstream media. There is only one view allowed in New Zealand on just about any topic.
  
  I do see things changing as covid fades into the background and economic conditions get worse as they always do under semi-socialist governments. Inflation, the rising cost of living, the housing crisis, one could go on and on. Crime is out of control and this government has no appetite for any measures that will restore law and order.
  
  So one can only hope the New Zealand middle-class will wake up from their ideological slumber and embrace common sense and the good things of Western civilisation and vote the socialist cultural vandals out in 2023.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:15am
  - pdm
    
    I am not convinced by Luxon. While he answers questions better than anyone in the Government so did English, Bridges and Collins.
    
    I just cannot shake the belief that he is too woke to do the job that is going to be needed. For want of a better phrase – he needs to `harden up’.
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:28am
    - Charmaine Hawke
      
      I have a feeling Luxon will be the transition to a more conservative government in the future, still not sure who the next leader will be but I have a feeling they will be the transformative leader we want Luxon to be.
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:39am
      - rouppe
        
        But who do you see than can be that transformative leader?
        
        Nicola Willis seems to toe the diversity and inclusion and climate change mantras.
        Chris Bishop barks at passing cars.
        Shane Reti seems to be too nice
        From there, they seem to be pretty average
        
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        September 9, 2022 10:22am
      - Ruawai
        
        Erica Stanford speaks really clearly, knowledgeably and is very likable. One to watch.
        
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        September 9, 2022 12:42pm
  - Ross Campbell
    
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    No point sugar coating things Scott.
    Embracing common sense is another way of you saying that we all need to embrace good old Christian values where homosexuals, transgender, Maoris and other bogeymen all know their place and don’t get too audacious in their demands such as being regarded as having human worth.
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:00am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Hahahaha! Nice one, centurion, like it. Non-sequiturs, straw-men, comprehension fail – I think we can close entries now, you win the prize for the stupidest comment on the internet.
      
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      September 9, 2022 10:42am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      You are the only one here with clearly bigoted views Ross. Sort yourself out before making up unfounded allegations against others.
      
      I know you think you’re the good guy but you’re not. Your assumptions are entirely based on your hatred of people that don’t agree with you. You are a fascist basically. Be better.
      
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      September 9, 2022 10:55am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        Thanks for that little outburst LAR but unfortunately your opinion is worthless to me so I will dutifully ignore it,
        I’m sure the upticks you will get from other followers on here will make you feel validated that you are right though.
        
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        September 9, 2022 11:22am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Ross – of course my opinion is worthless to you because you’re a bigot.
        
        The views of everybody on here are worthless to you because you are incapable of understanding other people’s views when they are different to yours. Your go to assumption always seems to be some sort of ism.
        
        You have no empathy. All people lead different lives which leads them to have differing beliefs. The reasons for these differing beliefs usually have nothing to do with any of the isms you like throwing around but you have no interest in understanding their views so you insult them.
        
        Again, be better.
        
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        September 9, 2022 11:42am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        LAR- maybe consider becoming a guidance counsellor instead of a blogger as you need to chill a bit.
        
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        September 9, 2022 11:50am
      - Ian Boag
        
        @Libbo
        
        you are incapable of understanding other people’s views when they are different to yours.
        
        A not uncommon feature of KB posts 🙂
        
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        September 9, 2022 11:53am
    - Media hater
      
      Ross, please tell me you are taking the mickey. I can’t believe you are anything other than an online caricature here to bamboozle us with your pointlessly inane outbursts.
      
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      September 9, 2022 11:55am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        Come on don’t be like that as posters on here should be happy when one of the contrarians are in residence as it gives you someone to hate on for the day.
        Besides it helps boost the number of comments on an otherwise slow Friday.
        
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        September 9, 2022 12:05pm
      - Bridgenag
        
        Do you think he would go somewhere to mix with his own people? On the other hand he probably gets a thrill when everyone downticks and totally dislikes him…….
        
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        September 9, 2022 1:51pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        “….. gives you someone to hate on for the day.”
        
        Very emotive Ross. I think a strong disagreement and even criticism of the commenter does not indicate hate.
        
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        September 9, 2022 1:52pm
      - Ross Campbell
        
        Come on Don don’t be a nitpicker.
        “Hate on” is a figure of speech used with poetic licence.
        It is not literal interpretation but you already knew that right….
        
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        September 9, 2022 2:01pm
    - iMP
      
      That’s really insulting of Christian values. It was Christians who fought for decades to remove slavery in England; and America; and those same values Maori embraced with vigour to save their crumbling genocidal tribal amalgam. But no one reads or understands the history of the latter, it’s not woke narrative -friendly
      
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      September 9, 2022 12:15pm
      - zulumonster
        
        That may well be true iMP – but sadly not a narrative that is de rigueur today
        
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        September 9, 2022 2:59pm
  - Bullion
    
    What’s with the homophobia and transphobia? You don’t want to stick up for their rights and freedoms?
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:05am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    John Key got a much better ride from the MSM than Luxon is getting, so far. I wouldn’t say that there is active collusion between the current government and the media, but there is a relationship there that Clark did not have,
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:57am
  - Philview
    
    Scott, I saw some footage the other day of an American preacher giving a prophetic vision in January to his church about the year ahead. The interesting thing he had to say was that a formidable female leader is going to come to power in the UK who is going to be like a Margaret Thatcher. If this somehow turns out to be correct it could be interesting for us in 12 months time if Liz Truss pulls an economic miracle out of the hat as a Conservative Party leader.
    
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    September 9, 2022 1:26pm
  - rockape
    
    How were Key and Jacinda doing when the governments they replaced were only two years into the second term? I seem to remember Labour winning in 2005 and Key winning in 2014. Don’t expect end of third term popularity to be the same as just two years into second term. It seems to me that in the short time Luxon has been the leader he has done pretty well .
    
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    September 9, 2022 3:14pm
    - Liberty
      
      The 2005 election was a bit dubious.
      Resulting in
      Darnton v Clark[edit]
      On 29 June 2006, Bernard Darnton filed proceedings in the High Court, suing Helen Clark for allegedly misappropriating public funds to pay for the Labour Party’s pledge cards during the 2005 election. Some commentators labelled the lawsuit a stunt, although it received some media coverage as concern about the “pledge card” funding grew.[4][5] On Sunday 10 September 2006, the lawsuit was the subject of a front-page story[6] in The Sunday Star-Times newspaper. The Labour party promptly accused the Libertarianz party of being part of a conspiracy with National party, alleging that the small party could not afford to bring such a case to court.[7]
      In October 2006, after the auditor-general released a report declaring that the misappropriation of funds was illegal, Labour and other political parties immediately announced that they would pay back the money. On 17 and 18 October, a majority, including the Labour Party, passed a law through Parliament to ‘retrospectively validate’ the spending, making it legal, which is required under the Public Finance Act 1989. In the circumstances, however, it also effectively makes the misspending immune from court proceedings.[citation needed] In response, the Libertarianz party declared 18 October 2006 to be “Banana Republic Day”, and issued press releases.[8]
      
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      September 10, 2022 8:25pm
- crikey
  
  There is no doubt that Labour and their sycophantic media would like nothing more than for the focus for the general election to be about Christopher Luxon, rather than highlighting their relentless incompetence and deceit.
  
  How delighted Labour must be to have Matthew Hooten there carrying on white-anting as is his wont.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:22am
  - Paulus
    
    You have hit the nail on then head – the media will be all about Luxon and what he did at AirNZ so cannot be a Prime Minister because of that.
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:31am
    - Roberta
      
      Yet no mention of what Jacinda did at the Fish and Chip shop, or at the Internatial Union of Socialist Youth. All quiet there…
      
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      September 9, 2022 5:03pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Hooten’s involvement in the Muller coup to remove Bridges renders his opinion on Christopher Luxon largely irrelevant.
    
    Luxon is running his Shadow Cabinet like a CEO. He trusts his key spokespeople to do what they say they will do. I suspect that will change as Election Year rolls around, but for the moment he is happy NOT to be the Spokesman for Everything!
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:44am
    - Jack5
      
      Hooten’s in Team Ardern.
      
      The Ardern media monolith – State TV, State radio, and the private bribed media – are desperate to divert attention from the Ardern regime’s:
      – soaring gang crime;
      – ethno-state ambition and English-language substitution;
      – housing disaster;
      – imminent health-system collapse;
      – and 15 months ahead of painful inflation.
      
      Luxon is good enough to topple Labour, and he may be much better than that.
      
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      September 9, 2022 10:28am
      - curry4me
        
        Yeah, I don’t think I’ve read anything by Matthew Hooten for years. Guess I didn’t miss a thing.
        
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        September 9, 2022 11:15am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      Hooten’s on the Horrid simply to try and catch the few remaining Righties who still have faith in the MSM…. Oooo… he’s National. It must be balanced.
      
      FFS.
      
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      September 9, 2022 6:13pm
- nathie
  
  Heh, I said last week (after he was critical of Ardern) that Hooten would be attacking National and therefore Luxon in his column this week!
  
  What a weasel Hooten is, an election is one whole year away and here he is prematurely spurting out nonsense to get everyone’s attention!
  
  How about Hooten write something interesting like why is most of the MSM is still beholden to Labour? Why, despite Labour and Ardern leaving NZ is a much worse state than when they found it, does the MSM still run interference for Labour? Like TVNZ have by ignoring Labour’s Northland lockdown scandal?
  
  Is it no wonder that the Opposition (National and ACT) are not getting the cut through that he/we expects? The Labour and Media landscape is not the same in 2022 as it was in 2007, I suspect even today if John Key was starting off he would not have the levels of support as he had back then.
  
  I mean back then he only had to contend with Labour Party President Mike Williams traveling to Australia to find dirt on him and Labour’s half-hearted attempts to smear him over his share porfolio (that no-one else cared about), but fast forward to today we have a Labour Party reportedly having Zoom calls with the nations MSM Editors to set the narrative for the week (imagine the harm the beholden-to-Labour MSM would have dished out back then to dent JK’s credibility)!
  
  So come on Hooten, how about a real scoop of a story (that the rest of the MSM is too gutless to highlight), such as the way Grant Robbo leads the smears and innuendo (remember his attacks on National over the Budget “leaks” back in Simon Bridge’s day or his recent efforts) , or his arrogance when being interviewed (telling HDPA a couple of Mondays ago to effectively shut up and stop interrupting his speels of BS)!
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:27am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Hooten blowing his usual randomly destructive hooter. Ignore.
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:51am
- Paulus
  
  Hooten’s typical paid media comments !
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:29am
- RockyJ
  
  Adults in New Zealand will by now be realising that charismatic show ponies are not the best leaders. Luxon is doing a great job of chiselling middle ground voters away from Labour. He should not be taking votes from Act.
  
  The MSM deliberately ignore the fact that National is releasing sound unsexy policies so we know what they will do when they win the election in 2023.
  
  If you want bullshit and lies then keep voting Labour!
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:44am
  - curry4me
    
    Yeah, I agree. Chris Luxon deserves the benefit of the dout until further notice. Good luck to him.
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:16am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Dim –
  Yep, OK.
  But tell me, if John Key was still the leader of the National Party -and in opposition- how would he have dealt with the media driven “Jacindamania” effect?
  Many people still seem to think Ms Ardern is some kind of goddess who saved them, and the government’s PR and propaganda units continue to reinforce this status to and through the media.
  John Key might have been more competitive – but we are living in times when people want to be looked after and have pocket money doled out regularly – like kids.
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:37am
  - Taieri
    
    Many people still seem to think Ms Ardern is some kind of goddess who saved them
    ———–
    
    Isn’t she?…
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:50am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    That’s a moot point. If John Key was still the National Party leader they would not be in opposition.
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:59am
ClanMcleod

There is an excellent interview on UK Column wit Dr Sam White from the UK.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/dr-sam-white-covid-19-policy-and-the-war-on-public-health

Dr White was banned by the UK General Medical Council for stating on social media that masks don’t work and he questioned the PCR test and the efficacy of the vaccines.
He took the GMC to court and won his case.

White took his case against the GMC to the High Court on the basis of his freedom of expression “to engage in medical, scientific and political debate and discussion,” White’s barrister, Francis Hoar, told a hearing at the Royal Courts of Justice.

Hoar added that White’s opinions were “supported by large bodies of scientific and medical opinion” and had been “statements of fact and opinions about pharmaceutical and non-pharmaceutical interventions in response to the pandemic.”

This has been the biggest casualty of the last couple of years, the suppression of free speech and open debate. It has resulted in a massive loss of trust in once respected institutions. It has resulted in the death of mainstream media as a source of balanced news reporting, a once invaluable part of our society. Now it has become a joke.

Sam White is an intelligent and articulate young doctor. I recommend watching the interview. It is excellent.
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September 9, 2022 8:18am
- Gravelroad
  
  While I agree with your second-to-last paragraph, the reality is many, many people do not want to read anything, or think for themselves.
  They want to be told, reassured and protected.
  Ms Ardern is aware of that and has used society’s laziness and lack of confidence to her advantage.
  It has all worked out very well for her – and her lacklustre colleagues still cannot believe their luck at the level of power it has delivered to them to play with.
  
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  September 9, 2022 8:32am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, make people frightened and they will roll over.
    
    Ardern is a puppet. What really matters is who is the person behind the curtains pulling her strings.
    
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    September 9, 2022 8:41am
    - kevn
      
      @cmm… Indeed, there is so much rubbish being tossed over the parapet at NZer’s, it can be hard to keep up.
      There is a little army of string pullers.
      
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      September 9, 2022 8:44am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        One, H1. Maybe with the help of H2.
        
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        September 9, 2022 9:34am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep , and many will support the police breaking the law / abusing their position to surveil us in the streets , on the same basis .
    
    Salus populi suprema lex esto .
    
    But who decides .
    
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    September 9, 2022 8:44am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Latin – good stuff!
      
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      September 9, 2022 6:23pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Gravelroad – sadly I have to agree with you. This is why critics of the government policies use the term “sheep” when referencing those who blindly trust the “single source of truth”. It isn’t an insult, it’s an observation.
    Sadly it means we can expect Ardern to maintain a reasonable level of support, nothing to do with performance, simply blind “faith” and the desire for someone to run their lives for them.
    
    Of course, this is the result of the dumbing down of an education system that has been perverted over the last 40 years to create exactly this outcome. The latest assault which will destroy it completely is the cancel culture and “woke” madness.
    We are in a war. We need to realise this. Appealing to reason isn’t going to work.
    
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    September 9, 2022 8:46am
- Observer of Life
  
  Clan: Thanks. Well worth the watch.
  
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  September 9, 2022 3:23pm
Maggy Wassilieff

In one week or so, we may be free from the traffic-light system to manage Covid outbreaks.

Is this a system we should ever have reinstated?
Was it ever effective?
Could NZ have handled the pandemic better?

Why not have a review?

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2022/09/08/the-case-is-mounting-for-an-inquiry-into-ardern-govts-handling-of-the-covid-pandemic/#more-17478
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September 9, 2022 8:31am
- Gravelroad
  
  “Why not have a review?”
  What difference would it make.
  The damage is done.
  
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  September 9, 2022 8:34am
  - cmm
    
    And it would be a poi-waving whitewash anyway.
    
    The only people who would really benefit are Mahuta Huis Inc laying on “refreshments” : a cup of tea and sausage rolls at $250 per plate.
    
    Let’s just avoid the charade and save ourselves the anguish and a few $.
    
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    September 9, 2022 8:44am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Not if it was a Royal Commission with the right Commisioners and the right terms of reference.
      
      Which is why it is best to wait for a new Government to commission it.
      
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      September 9, 2022 8:55am
      - cmm
        
        “Not if…” but it won’t be.
        
        By 2024 there will be more important things to worry about than some he said/she said from 4 years ago – especially when National freely admit they’d pretty much have followed the same lines – just more effectively.
        
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        September 9, 2022 9:08am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        AFAIK Luxon has already promised a Royal Commission.
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/national-promises-public-inquiry-into-covid-response-if-elected/YSRCAP7IPATTLNTJ7RXJIB42IU/
        
        He would need to exclude all of the “experts” who have been in our faces for the last 2.5 years. They would need to have collective expertise in science, economics and law. Maybe it would require looking for top expats who have not been contaminated with wokeness and Maori Science.
        
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        September 9, 2022 9:22am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Benedict – we call those people “experts”. In the pre 2017 meaning of the word.
        
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        September 9, 2022 6:25pm
  - kowtow
    
    A review , conducted by “experts” . The “experts” who locked us down.
    No thanks .
    
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    September 9, 2022 8:45am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      See my comment – that is not what I had in mind. Quite the opposite.
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:23am
  - Nickc2
    
    Those responsible can be named, shamed, and held to ridicule and hopefully never heard of again as in the whole of this Govt’s bunch of Ministers.
    
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    September 9, 2022 8:51am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Traffic lights are very childish – almost like a kid from a school suggested it to Jaspinda.
  Childish!
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:41am
- Ruahine
  
  If I was Luxon I would be calling for a review and start cataloguing all the stupidities and inconsistencies as and when good opportunity presents. The recent Northland revelations are a case in point.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:53am
All_on_Red

Most here will know who Glenn Greenwald is. If not his Bio is here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald
In the thread in the link below he systematically points out how the left stifles dissent.
https://twitchy.com/mike-313136/2022/09/07/glenn-greenwald-posts-epic-thread-about-how-the-authoritarian-left-is-squashing-dissent/
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September 9, 2022 8:39am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Must really twist the left’s nipples that so many strong voices for rational anti-woke anti-intersectional anti-victimology bullshit are gay. Greenwald, Rubin, Murray, Thiel
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:33am
Philview

I read that Jacinda Ardern was awoken by a police officer shining a torch in her room this morning to break the news about the Queen. I can’t say I have ever given any thought to a PM’s living arrangements but a weird life to have police officers in your house or apartment while you sleep.
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September 9, 2022 8:46am
- Libertarians are right
  
  It’s a story. Jacinda loves stories.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:02am
  - Paulus
    
    Assume he was not there !
    
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    September 9, 2022 1:51pm
- MDQ
  
  Indeed – so the system to contact the PM at night for urgent matters of State is to shine a torch though her bedroom window. What is the official plan B if she has her curtains shut or sleeps through it- throw pebbles at the window? Is it agreed that once she sees said torchlight she knows to immediately put on her bat suit and race into action as something big must be happening? If her story is even remotely true it is an embarrassment for the country.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:41am
  - Ghost
    
    Seriously these posts are getting stupid. When a countries leader needs to be informed of something like this when asleep their security awake them, get over it
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:45am
slightlyrighty

I am surprised by the extraordinary admission of the PM that she had to be woken by police shining a light into her window to be informed about the passing of Her Majesty.

Surely the PM would have a phone by her bed. Why would the PM be incommunicado in her own home?
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September 9, 2022 8:52am
- Ehlana
  
  Because even Prime Ministers need to sleep. And it’s not the kind of news you phone through?
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Text from a friend in the UK is how Luxon was informed.
    Maybe Jaspinda has a weekly burner phone?
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:48am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The direction I was heading: Never have anything written down the can be OIA’d. That would go for phone memories
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:50am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So will they ram through a republican shift now? They have a penchant for pushing massive governance changes on NZ govt without a mandate. Perhaps install the Clarkenfurher as el presidente.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:37am
  - curry4me
    
    Yes, the Queen Elizabeths death will breathe some life into the ‘republican movement’. President Helen, and VP Jacinda.
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:22am
    - Ian Boag
      
      President Judith and VP Simon ? 🙂
      
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      September 9, 2022 3:26pm
iMP

Charles becomes the III rd.
William as Duke of Cambridge becomes the Prince of Wales. Camilla is Queen Consort. The Brits are so well organised.

God bless the king. I think he’ll be a good monarch. Let’s not go banana republic.
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September 9, 2022 8:54am
- cmm
  
  Greta’s crazy BFF…. The organic mucncher who insists on people driving through the night to bring him fresh produce from his farm, while fighting climate change.
  
  Can’t we roll back the clock to when the kings just had tertiary syphilis?
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:03am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is the homeopathy thing that gets me. 🙁
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:09am
    - kevn
      
      @BY… If it makes happy/works for them, who cares?
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:48am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        He can afford to waste whatever money he wants on bullshit “remedies” but many of the gullible rubes who subscribe to the bullshit can ill afford it.
        
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        September 9, 2022 11:02am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Everyone’s allowed a hobby
      
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      September 9, 2022 6:27pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Just a slight correction.
  
  William and Kate automatically became Duke and Duchess of Cornwall when Charles became King.
  
  The title of Prince of Wales is now vacant. William will only be granted the title if Charles chooses to do so, although it would be unusual if he did not. However, it could be months or even a couple of years away.
  
  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/william-become-prince-wales-investiture-24966997
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:08am
  - iMP
    
    Yes BY you’re right (good cut and paste by the way). A monarch does select their heir, who are then crowned P of W (orbit could be Princess). I recall when Charles was, he gave a naughty speech in Welsh that the British Nobs couldn’t understand, repeat with a few digs.
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:38am
- Paulus
  
  William will be Prince of Wales, but not until he has been formally Crowned in Wales in a year or two.
  Charles had to wait some time for that honour.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:36am
- geoff3012
  
  He’s batshit crazy
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:23am
- Observer of Life
  
  Sorry.. but Charles is a sap. He needs to move over and let Wills & Kate take over. Those two will keep the monarch alive and well. Charlie Boy.. not so much.
  
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  September 9, 2022 3:30pm
ClanMcleod

Emmanuel Garcia writes regarding the use and abuse of power, particularly as witnessed during the covid circus.

Phony Covid Narrative: The Anatomy and Physiology of Power. “Digitization is A Form of Dehumanization”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/anatomy-physiology-power/5792532

I write this as a kind of preface to some general observations about the exercise of power, particularly in groups and by so-called leaders, and in the context of a live-action demonstration, thanks to Covid, of governmental manipulation at a scale unprecedented in human history. I write so that we who wish to resist propaganda and phoney narratives and the attempts to deny us our livelihoods and, indeed, our very lives, by measures imposed to ‘keep us safe’ may better learn, the better to oppose these measures.

First, those in power – individuals or groups – never willingly give their power up. The entire history of Western law is a record of the struggle of the weak who, by aggregating, sought protection from those who have ruled over them in the form of justice, the Magna Carta being a principal example, and the Declaration of Independence of the United States representing a culmination.

He highlights another 7 key points. As he notes towards the end:

We cannot and should not expect those in power to act lawfully or to respond to appeals of conscience.
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September 9, 2022 8:58am
- cmm
  
  Positions of power used to come with the expectation of service and duty: Noblesse Oblige, The White Man’s Burden and all that.
  
  Now it’s just an opportunity to loot and pillage.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:37am
- alloytoo
  
  Does Ardern have a conscience?
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wots that?
    
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    September 9, 2022 1:44pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      … she asks
      
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      September 9, 2022 3:32pm
Yadayada

God Save the King.
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September 9, 2022 9:08am
RoboRob

I am stunned that JA needed to be woken by a police visit so that she could receive the sad news of the Queens passing.

JA seems pround of thsis as she bought it up hereslelf. What sort of leader makes themselves unavailable outside of work hours?
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September 9, 2022 9:10am
- Ghost
  
  She isn’t unavailable, she’s asleep. Other leaders who were asleep would of been woken by their security detail as well.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:14am
  - RoboRob
    
    What I meant was, she obviously had her phone off.
    
    However my comment is based on the assumption that she doesn’t have a 24hr police gaurd. If she does then I take it back and you are right, like other leaders she would then rely on her security to determine what is worth waking her for.
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:27am
    - Ghost
      
      Yes she has 24 security, all Prime Ministers do
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:29am
    - cmm
      
      Her phone probably goes off with texts and calls etc many times an hour 24/7.
      
      It is common to have security details etc do the night shift while sleeping.
      
      It’s the same for captains at sea or military commanders in the field.
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:40am
- Nickc2
  
  If she said it, it’s a lie. Fuckin Student Politicians!
  Hey Cindy, turn and face the bedroom window, a World War’s just been declared and the King wants to know whose side NZ is going to take.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:20am
- kowtow
  
  She brought it up herself ?
  
  She’s a narcissist who puts herself at the centre of ,or endeavours to be the subject of every event.
  
  And if not that then she has a lot of media advisors , spinning like tops.
  
  Could be both.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:28am
  - nathie
    
    I think her media advisors must still be sleeping in. Had the misfortune to hear Ardern’s press conference on Hosking’s show at 7.30 and whomever wrote her speech (Ardern herself?) sounded like they grabbed the info from wikipedia. It was so amateur and insincere compared to other world leaders, even Albo and even Chris Luxon sounded better, sincere and more honest than our Dear PM!
    
    God save the King and God save NZ from this incompetent Labour govt “student politician” rabble ….
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:37am
  - Paulus
    
    But she is going to the Funeral, assume for another photoshoot, but she will have a lot of competition.
    New York for the UN job interview first ?
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:38am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Depending on the actual funeral date, there could be a conflict
      
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      September 9, 2022 9:56am
      - nathie
        
        Heh you know where she will be – where the world’s attention and cameras will be focusing on of course!
        
        Cindy: “Macron, mon cheri camembert Christchurch call surrender … I mean supporter, hey listen up luvvie I can’t make now to beautiful Paris with is wonderful shopping I mean people, gotta go to the UK now ….”!
        
        Macron: “Sacre bleu, you stand me up, why you pomme de terre ….”.
        
        Cindy cuts in: “Yes indeed to see the pommies as you call them haha, glad you understand, hey bad line gotta go now”, click!
        
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        September 9, 2022 10:33am
- curry4me
  
  Well…. no bedside cell phone means no embarrasing records to be revealed by an OIA request.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:25am
- MCōs
  
  She clearly does make herself available for important communications.
  Someone will be checking her phone calls, emails etc 24/7 and filtering out the important stuff for her immediate attention. Otherwise she’d be continually on the phone attending to frivolous callers all times of day and night.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:24pm
Cassandra

The accession of King Charles III is not good for Harry’s status. His book had better not make outrageous claims about his Dad. Relieved of the dukedom and asked to vacate Frogmore etc. Look for York to lose its Duke too (Yorkshiremen will be pleased).
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September 9, 2022 9:18am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Yes, because spiteful glee over what you baselessly think will be the outcome for one of her grand-children is far and away the most appropriate response to the passing of a great lady
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:02am
  - Cassandra
    
    My comment has nothing to do with HM herself, on whom I have commented elsewhere. Having met her several times I remain an ardent admirer. But her death does have implications for York and Sussex, both of whom you seem to favour. You’d be one of a very small number, Bert.
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:22am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      I’m well aware that there are plenty whose life is entirely consumed by their hatred of the Sussexes, rather less so towards Andrew even though he’s the one that’s actually done something wrong.
      
      However, I’ve still been surprised and saddened to find that so many of them can’t give their bitterness and bile a rest even for a single day out of respect for the passing of the Queen, whom they claim to admire but whom they’re happy to call a liar rather than accept her word for it when she described Harry and Meghan as much-loved members of her family.
      
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      September 9, 2022 4:58pm
      - Ghost
        
        That has been a sad part of today that some people have decided to show how little respect that have to someone passing
        
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        September 9, 2022 5:08pm
- David George
  
  The Bee reports, prior to The Queens passing:
  MONTECITO, CA — In the latest episode of her podcast Narcissists, model, TV star, fashion designer, podcaster, and princess-in-law Meghan Markle took aim at Queen Elizabeth II’s “convenient” grave illness as another aristocratic attempt to pull her from the spotlight for a few days.
  “It’s just like the Queen to pull a stunt like this,” said Markle on the fourth episode of her podcast in which she interviews a mirror. “Ever since I married what’s-his-name, she has had me in her sights. I bet she kicks the bucket just to pull me from the spotlight this week. I mean, how selfish is that?”
  https://babylonbee.com/news/meghan-markle-concerned-queens-death-may-yank-her-from-spotlight-for-a-few-days
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:22am
  - curry4me
    
    The BB is priceless. That extract was so plausible.
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:26am
- plc
  
  I would think Charles Windsor wouldn’t mind negative stories about James Hewitt
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:39am
- iMP
  
  Charles said publicly years ago that he intended to reduce the circle of working Royals when he was King. This inevitably means Harry and Megan and their children, who stated publicly they were leaving the Royal family job anyway and are now movie celebrities.
  
  It’s obvious Charles was/is hurt and angry about the Californians , I would expect some sort of demotion or removal of HRH epithets if they’re outside the firm and no longer working the job. Brits will support that.
  
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  September 9, 2022 12:28pm
Close Hen Counters

Thank you for your incredible life of service your majesty – RIP Elizabeth R 😢 👑
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September 9, 2022 9:22am
- curry4me
  
  Yes, I agree. Her mother was an excellent Queen Consort to George VI too.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:27am
ClanMcleod

Leaked Israeli video showing that side effects from the vaccine were covered up.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/israeli-health-officials-safety-problems-pfizer-covid-vaccine/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=91af1ce5-c6c1-4690-b28f-b9f0543533bb

“Informed consent”. The joke of the century.
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September 9, 2022 9:24am
- mandk
  
  No one in NZ gave informed consent to the vax because the consent form contained false and misleading information.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:37am
- surfing
  
  Yes, because you’re going to get great unbiased news from ‘childrenshealthdefense’. I took a quick look, that place goes down some rabbit holes. Do you take their position on global warming?
  
  “Leaked Climate Report: Devastating Effects of Warming World to Hit Far Sooner Than Previously Thought”
  
  They do enjoy finding ‘leaked’ documents. As they did in your link too.
  
  You seem to have ample time, go quote some studies from respected journals , such as Lancet/Nature/AMA/New England Medicine etc. Might not find much to support your views.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:46am
  - Ghost
    
    I had a look before, I have a lot of respect for the work Robert Kennedy has done over the years
    
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    September 9, 2022 9:48am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      He’s worthy of the respect, unlike surfing and milkey and auntie. The best they can come up with is snide remarks and sarcasm. They NEVER tackle the actual topic at hand. Tells you all you need to know.
      
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      September 9, 2022 10:12am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    surfing – “”it wasn’t on One News and Ardern didn’t announce it, and she’s the single source of truth it so it can’t be true” 😂
    
    You and the other useful idiots who visit Kiwiblog are so predictable. Smears and ad hominem, as usual, no reference to the content. You really need to up your game.
    
    Here’s another source for you to disparage.
    
    https://rtmag.co.il/english/breaking-the-israeli-ministry-of-health-has-been-warned-it-might-open-itself-to-lawsuits-for-encouraging-the-public-to-get-vaccinated-while-claiming-that-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-safe,-and-that-side-effects-are-mild-and-transient
    
    You can look for it yourself, I’m not your secretary. But no matter how you try to smear and deflect, it isn’t going to make it go away. It’s the truth.
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:09am
    - surfing
      
      When it comes to smearing, it is you who resorts to personal abuse.
      
      I never attacked you personally a single time. I only attacked your source.
      
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      September 9, 2022 10:26am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        “I only attacked your source” – thanks for confirming what I said in the post. That is all you ever do which means my describing you as a useful idiot is a valid observation.
        It’s very simple. If the source is dodgy then explain what part was wrong, why and provide something to support your claims.
        Simply implying it isn’t trustworthy because you don’t like the source is inane.
        
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        September 9, 2022 2:33pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Now now children, who wants the naughty mat in the corner?
        See the diversion Mac? And it was not what I just said! :)!
        
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        September 9, 2022 5:50pm
  - Paul Marsden
    
    The Lancet a ‘respected’ journal ..?? Surely you jest.
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:26am
  - kowtow
    
    Ah yes , the Lancet and that infamous letter .
    
    So much for “repected”.
    
    Bwahahahahaha.
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:45am
Rusty

I have a strange sense of sadness at the passing of Queen Elizabeth 11 even though one knew it could happen at any time given her age.

I think even people who are anti-monarchy would still have to admire a lady still working at 96 years of age doing such an important job.

Where to with the monarchy/royal family with King Charles 111 who knows?

RIP the Queen
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September 9, 2022 9:40am
- Sacha
  
  Tradition , and the power of the Royal handlers will keep everyone in line. And the British people will take a few decades to forget HM The Queen and hw thanks were done in her time.
  
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  September 9, 2022 8:49pm
NZL Fusion

Why is Auckland Council doing a survey about being a vegetarian?

“This survey is a bit different to our usual People’s Panel surveys.

We are sharing it with you on the behalf of council’s Live Lightly Team and it is about what you and your household eat.

Depending on your answers, you may recieve a food related giveaway from the Live Lightly Team.”

https://aucklandcouncil.syd1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_d6edO2ec1pMo0Iu?Q_DL=lBnARfqMYjQEemw_d6edO2ec1pMo0Iu_CGC_MtPVYUibRZXCSp0&Q_CHL=email
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September 9, 2022 9:48am
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  Anything to distract themselves from their core responsibilities eh?
  
  I wonder what “a food related giveaway from the Live Lightly Team” could be. A meat pack?
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:40am
  - Flyer
    
    It’s a $153 Myfoodbag voucher for 3 vegetarian meals for 4.
    
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    September 9, 2022 6:20pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Is this what NZ needs? Seriously, you can’t make this shit up.
https://dailypoliticalnewswire.com/you-wont-believe-what-the-biden-admin-is-putting-in-vending-machines-in-appalachia/
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September 9, 2022 10:09am
surfing

I’m waiting for Alwyn Poole to comment on this one…
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/474261/low-pass-rates-in-trial-of-ncea-literacy-and-numeracy-tests-alarm-principals

Funny how kids who do well in NCEA literacy are failing an independent literacy test.
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September 9, 2022 10:30am
Maggy Wassilieff

Was anyone else surprised/disgusted? that TV One made a point this morning of showing clips of women protesters throwing eggs at QE II when she visited NZ…and then a clip of a wet T-shirt being hurled at her?

I couldn’t see the point of showing these clips in detail.

I’m no Royalist, but at the end of the day, these petty protests were still acts of violence against a middle-aged female. It was sickening to view them.
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September 9, 2022 10:32am
- Jack5
  
  State-owned TVNZ is a disgrace, but the insult to the Queen’s memory isn’t too surprising.
  
  Remember it repeating, repeating, and repeating clips of mud being thrown in Don Brash’s face at Waitangi?
  
  It did the same with a clip of a madwoman throwing a dildo at Joyce.
  
  The Leftism is typically worse at weekends, when a news B team seems to be on duty.
  
  And what other State TV in the world is pushing more and more language that 90 per cent of its viewers cannot understand?
  
  Worse is to come with the merger and up-sizing of State TV and State radio, and Minister Wily-Willie Jackson’s promise of increased Maori presence in State TV-radio broadcasting.
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:42am
  - kowtow
    
    The Media Pardy make a virtue of attacking the Establishment.
    But attack the MediaPardy and you’re a tinfoil hat wearing, swivel eyed loon.
    
    Slowly people are waking up to their lies.
    
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    September 9, 2022 10:49am
  - oldfella
    
    Jack5: did you see this excellent piece by Graeme Arnold?
    The puzzling push for te reo in public
    Is using untranslated Māori words counter-productive?
    If the use of intermittent te reo is intended to raise its status — and to interest many more people in studying it — it’s moot whether, on balance, it has been a wild success. Despite reports of waiting lists for te reo courses, it is quite possible its net effect has been to diminish its standing overall given the numbers of those annoyed by it.
    https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/the-puzzling-push-for-te-reo-in-public
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:29am
    - Ehlana
      
      He is so right.
      
      Though I guess we shouldn’t be surprised – incompetence is the hallmark of this government, so it should be no wonder that they cannot communicate competently, or promote Maori language competently.
      
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      September 9, 2022 12:27pm
- nathie
  
  TVNZ News demonstrates again how much their standards have slipped.
  
  I didn’t see it but I know the clip you mean – if TVNZ had any semblance of respect (and any “mana”), they wouldn’t have shown that clip for the very same reasons they wouldn’t show a historical clip of someone hurling abuse at someone prominent (but controversial) in Maoridom (or from the Left) that has passed.
  
  Clearly someone with authority in TVNZ thought it was a “good idea” to do so. If this was the BBC that person would have been disciplined. Perhaps we need such standards here and what a perfect time to introduce them as TVNZ (and RNZ) undertake change – be that by Labour in 2022 or National in 2023.
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:44am
- Gravelroad
  
  TV 1 has no class nor the intelligence to read the room, unless it is Jacinda’s room.
  Typical childish, smart Alec reaction to a significant world event.
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:47am
- G152
  
  Should have been a result like 5 years imprisonment
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:16am
- Rusty
  
  Lets hope/pray if National gets into power next year that they withdraw all funding to TV One.
  
  Their news coverage/presentation is an utter disgrace. Not just at the passing of the Queen but any news item that they perceive as being conservative they trash it.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:21am
- alex Masterley
  
  Nothing TV One does surprises me. They are bottom feeders of the first order.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:42am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Shares 2016.
If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in Air New Zealand one year ago, you would have $49.00 today.
If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in the AA one year ago, you would have $33.00 today.
If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in Canterbury Finance one year ago, you would have $0.00 today.
But, if you had purchased $1,000 worth of beer one year ago, drank all the beer, then turned in the aluminum cans for recycling refund, you would have received $214.00..
Based on the above, the best current investment plan is to drink heavily & recycle.. It is called the 401-Keg.
recent study found that the average Kiwi walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Kiwi’s drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year.
That means that, on average, Kiwi’s get about 41 miles to the gallon
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September 9, 2022 10:40am
- Jack5
  
  By shares “in the AA”, Steve, are you talking about Alcoholics Anonymous?
  
  If that AA were to form a company and float it on the share exchange, would the share price price rise or fall with national booze consumption?
  
  Would there be hiccups in the share-price graph? 😖
  
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  September 9, 2022 10:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Don’t think it was the Alco one.
    Alcoholic Anonymous have meetings. Drunks have parties!
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:49am
- curry4me
  
  Excellent! That’s going on my FB page.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:32am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Hope you don’t get a non humorous fact checker
    
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    September 9, 2022 11:51am
- Colville
  
  You need to check the batteries on your calculator.
  
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  September 9, 2022 12:02pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mq8HT301aBY/

Biden Panics Over 7 Massive Bombshells Found In Trump Raid!

Special Master reveals a minor problem or two concerning the recent raid. Brandon was caught in a lie. No surprise there. [Wiley Coyote fails again. 9:09]
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September 9, 2022 11:11am
curry4me

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/09/07/gop-to-unveil-new-commitment-to-america-n1627382
GOP to Unveil New ‘Commitment to America’.
Republicans in the House are preparing to roll out their midterm agenda, which they hope will give voters a reason to vote for them and not just against Democrats.
The brainchild of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, the “Commitment to America” will have four parts dealing with the economy, security, education/health care, and government accountability.
McCarthy’s office has indicated the Commitment to America will debut in Pittsburgh on September 19. It’s loosely based on the “Contract with American” concept created for the 1994 midterm election that was credited with helping the GOP take over both the House and Senate.
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September 9, 2022 11:11am
Loddenthinks

I agree that the early post today about the late Queen Elizabeth II is not the place to discuss what happens next, but since a few people have expressed an opinion here in GD, I’ll tentatively weigh in.

I think it’s time that New Zealand stood up and took its place in the world as a modern democratic nation. Our head of state should be elected by New Zealanders, not appointed by someone 20,000 km away.

Charles is another link to empire, he’s in his mid-70s and to my mind at least, is bat-shit crazy, a hypocrite and blowhard. I don’t want him to be my Head of State and think he personally has very little to offer New Zealand.

For some unaccountable reason people seem to think NZ becoming a republic would somehow lead to the she-beast Helen Clark becoming “President for Life” but, providing we eject this useless government at the next election, which would also be an appropriate time also to have a referendum on the republic, I can’t see that happening.

It would also give us the opportunity to get rid of the manky, rotten carcass of the Treaty of Waitangi and have a sensible founding document and constitution. Admittedly it would include some radical concepts that have fallen out of favour – you know, one person one vote, one standard of citizenship, no race-based laws or policies, equality of opportunity for all, and the responsibility to be a good citizen. But it’s worth a shot.
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September 9, 2022 11:12am
- Cassandra
  
  No, you’ll never get rid of that carcass. It ain’t broke. Don’t fix it. God Save The King who will serve us well and cheaply.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:28am
- kowtow
  
  ‘you know, one person one vote, one standard of citizenship, no race-based laws or policies, equality of opportunity for all, and the responsibility to be a good citizen. ‘
  
  Oh like all those things our British heritage gave us and which the Marxists are trying to change.
  
  God Save the King !
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:39am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I have no British heritage, but I take your point about the Westminster version of government and no doubt many other good things – none of which need be thrown out with the bathwater.
    
    Each to their own, but there isn’t a god to save Charlie the Adulterer – just sayin’
    
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    September 9, 2022 5:55pm
- Nukuleka
  
  Fuck off. Not the fucking place nor the fucking time. Show a bit of common decency on a day of mourning.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:39am
  - Colville
    
    Wind your head in.
    If Jacinda popped her clogs today you would be all over who would replace her.
    
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    September 9, 2022 12:04pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      Coalville: I’d have a glass of bubbly!!
      
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      September 9, 2022 3:47pm
- Jack5
  
  It’s a bit like bringing up the will at a funeral, Loddenthinks …
  
  Queen Elizabeth II was a great monarch, but since you want to talk about NZ transitioning to a republic.
  
  Constitutional monarchies are renown for providing political stability.
  
  We have something better in NZ: a notional constitutional monarchy. We have an absent ceremonial head of state safely on the other side of the world and with virtually no political power in our country.
  
  The institution costs us nearly nothing. We get a head to put on coins and banknotes, without feeding anyone’s pomposity.
  
  A republic would add another layer to our government, when NZ’s lack of a federal system and absence of a second parliamentary level give us a trim, economic governing system. We’re on islands balanced on the dangerous edge of tectonic plates, isolated from markets, and with citizens becoming more divided. At least we have a favourable political system.
  
  A republic would increase taxpayer-funded flunkies in Wellington. For president, I fear we would likely have a political has-been like Jim Bolger, or Helen Clark. Beyond that there is the question of the ethno-state that Ardern seems hell-bent on creating, which might mean a president’s role would be decided ethnically.
  
  Movement by Australia and Canada to become republics will influence the direction in NZ. Would French Canadians take the chance from change to secede? Australia would likely move first.
  
  Back to the funeral orations … Elizabeth II was loved by generations of New Zealanders. R.I.P.
  
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  September 9, 2022 11:50am
  - rouppe
    
    For president, I fear we would likely have a political has-been like Jim Bolger, or Helen Clark.
    
    In my son’s school, no one bothers applying for head boy unless they are fluent in The Reo and usually identify as Māori.
    
    You think it would be any different choosing a President?
    
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    September 9, 2022 12:45pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Yes, because we all have a vote whereas teachers have a big say in who the Head Boy/Girl is.
      
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      September 9, 2022 5:57pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        For how much longer?
        
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        September 9, 2022 7:29pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        How much longer will we all have a vote, or how much longer will they be deciding only on Head Boy/Girl? If the latter, probably not very long – there will be dozens of Head Genders I’m sure.
        
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        September 9, 2022 7:50pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    The last 2 years have revealed that we have no real rights in NZ that the govt won’t happily shit on if they think they can get away with it – they have no moral or ethical standards worth a damn, and have colluded to ensure that there is nothing and no-one to hold them to account, they prevented the opposition from doing their job with a dangerously partisan speaker, and effectively shut down the 4th estate in NZ – turning them into lap-dogs and toadys with subsidies and vast unnecessary advertising spending. We are clearly just one major crisis away from falling into the terminal embrace of unaccountable autocratic rule – like Venezuela and other failed states.
    
    Adopting the US constitution (or perhaps the swiss constitution) would provide some greater protection than we currently have. Certainly the creeping cancer of Treaty mediated disenfranchisment and race-based neo-aristocracy needs to be confronted directly and put to voters and codified in law rather than slowly and stealthily consuming our freedoms and rights as the crypto-marxists grind away at all our institutions in death-by-1000-cuts style.
    
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    September 9, 2022 2:09pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    * gently chides me for raising the topic
    
    * opines at length on the same topic
    
    I very much doubt I’ll be on the guest list for any royal funeral, and regardless of the timing (which appears to have caused at least one head to explode) it’s a conversation we need to have.
    
    You have your reasons for wanting to retain the monarchy. I believe it’s a perfect time to stand up as our own nation. There’s been a lot of BS over the years about brave men going off to war “for King and country” and nonsense such as “Hillary conquers Everest for Queen Elizabeth” due to an accident of timing a few days before her coronation. I very much doubt that a young British woman featured in the slightest in the thoughts of Hillary or Tenzing, but there you go.
    
    The good news is we can have a conversation without resorting to foul language. Looking at you Nuku – peace out.
    
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    September 9, 2022 6:03pm
- Nickc2
  
  In case you missed this.
  
  Given this Govt’s litany of lies so aptly outlined on this Blog today and its ever-present and arrogant display of incompetence, combined with its racist agenda, will Cindy cease on the Queen’s passing in order to steer our country away from the Commonwealth and enhance her dictatorship?
  It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she hadn’t already raised this prospect with Aust’s Albanese and Canada’s Trudeau.
  The WEF will rejoice at the prospect of the demise of the Commonwealth.
  
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  September 9, 2022 12:07pm
- iMP
  
  How is removing Charles III “New Zealand standing up and taking its place in the world as a modern democratic nation.” We are both.
  
  You don’t understand history or constitutional monarchy. We’ve been a sovereign independent state for over half a century.
  
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  September 9, 2022 12:37pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I understand both history and constitutional monarchy very well, but it’s clear by your description of New Zealand as a “sovereign independent state” that you do not.
    
    Having a sovereign neither born nor resident in this country is an anachronism, and rather stupid IMO. I understand that my comments will be unpopular to many, and that mentioning I’ve always admired QEII’s devotion to service, work ethic and backbone will be unlikely to change that, but I feel strongly that the Head of State should be in New Zealand. I also think having another country’s flag on our flag is stupid, and having it mistaken for so many other flags is embarrassing, and would change that too.
    
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    September 9, 2022 6:11pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Agreed completely – except every alternative is a much worse.
      
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      September 9, 2022 7:31pm
- Sacha
  
  New Zealand is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, and as such has agreed to have the Queen/King as its Head of State. The Government of the day make the rules, and the Governor General signs them off on behalf of the Head of State.
  Given the sort of people we have been choosing by election recently, I wouldn’t like our chances of getting an acceptable ‘President’ as a result of popular vote.
  But on the other hand, I am old so not really relevant for the future plans for the country.
  
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  September 9, 2022 9:02pm
vand

God bless the king. I think he’ll be a good monarch. Let’s not go banana republic.???
He will be King Gormless I to me-
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September 9, 2022 11:13am
- mogg
  
  At least the Queen knew how to laugh at herself; https://youtu.be/7UfiCa244XE.
  
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  September 9, 2022 2:43pm
  - Ghost
    
    Some of the queens best moments 😜
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWzvE7ctQMM
    
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    September 9, 2022 2:50pm
Taieri

It would also give us the opportunity to get rid of the manky, rotten carcass of the Treaty of Waitangi and have a sensible founding document and constitution.
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Be careful what you wish for. I have a gnawing suspicion that if NZ was to become Te Repupirikana o Aotearoa the standing of the Treaty of Waitangi would become even more prominent.
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September 9, 2022 11:26am
- KH
  
  Yes. The treaty could still hang around with a republic. Even if getting rid of the crown, one treaty partner, occurs.
  But it has been made manky and does have to go, even as Royalty continues.
  Too many people now just make up stuff about what it contains
  
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  September 9, 2022 3:01pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  I don’t see how. We’re constantly being told how the Treaty was a “partnership” with the Crown. If New Zealand votes to become a republic, they’ll have to go to London to collect if they don’t wish to be part of the Republic of New Zealand.
  
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  September 9, 2022 6:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I can go with this. The Democrats are pulling out all the stops to stop Trump running in 2024. Why not destroy the witch hunt documents?
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/report-trump-wanted-to-preserve-russiagate-documents-fearing-biden-would-shred-them/?

True? I don’t know. Political Insider don’t publish rubbish though.
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September 9, 2022 11:57am
Maggie Pie

Didn’t realise until this morning when my doubles -partner told me that there are in fact 22 candidates running for the Auckland Mayoralty!
(I thought there was only 3 left in after Leo pulled out….Wayne, Viv, and Fes.)

Prue was saying that one of her besties who she knocked about with a few years back had even thrown her hat in the ring.
Check out the bio on the Council website for Lisa Lewis.
Sounds to me like she’d piss all over the rest of them given half-a-chance.
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September 9, 2022 12:11pm
- rouppe
  
  Don’t you have to pay extra for that?
  
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  September 9, 2022 12:38pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Only after midnight
    
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    September 9, 2022 1:45pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Auckland’s weather means the city has a lot of showers. Auckland does not need a “golden shower”.
  
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  September 9, 2022 3:42pm
kevn

@Maggie… She may be able to pull a few of them onto her team?
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September 9, 2022 12:19pm
Swifty

Gotta love Camille Paglia….

https://youtube.com/shorts/-rzk5uDH5rA?feature=share
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September 9, 2022 1:14pm
- My
  
  Logged in just to reply. Brilliant.
  ‘How dare you snivelling little maniac tell us how we are going to use pronouns’
  
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  September 9, 2022 2:49pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum just txt….

‘There was always going to be a limit as to how many times God could save the Queen’.
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September 9, 2022 1:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Guess what? I finally found who writes Jaspinda’s speeches.
https://www.facebook.com/robert.hoffarth.7/videos/328512609457216/
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September 9, 2022 1:46pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Wow – the l’il nipper id really fluent in Te Reo. 🙂
  
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  September 9, 2022 2:00pm
  - greybeard
    
    Klingon.
    
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    September 9, 2022 5:31pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  The kid makes more sense than Brenda.
  
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  September 9, 2022 2:45pm
mogg

I have just spoken to our elderly neighbour (95yrs),
when I mentioned Republicanism and the possibility of a president Clark he very nearly choked on his false teeth.
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September 9, 2022 2:02pm
rangitoto

The Yeoman Warders will need new uniforms.
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September 9, 2022 2:04pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  All RN Cap Badges will have to be changed from Queen’s Crown to King’s Crown. As will all RAF and Regimental Cap badges.
  
  All Crowns on public buildings etc will have to be changed.
  
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  September 9, 2022 3:50pm
CAKE FACE1

The last opinion poll by Roy Morgan was simply a disaster, as far as I’m concerned.

Labour and National both scored about 35%. On the face of it, this wasn’t such a problem – it was when I looked at the composition of the figures that I became bewildered and concerned.

Predictably, Labour scored 35% because females aged 18 – 49 overwhelmingly supported the Cindy cult. This is not a surprise.

Interestingly, females aged between 18 – 49 also topped another statistic in the poll.

Females aged 18 – 49 were the most likely of any group to believe that New Zealand was heading in the wrong direction.

As a rational person, I find the cognitive dissonance displayed by the female 18 – 49 respondents to be confusing and concerning.

They believe:

(a) the country is heading in the wrong direction, but
(b) they support the Cindy cult status quo, in any case!

Why would someone support a government which they believe is taking us all in the wrong direction?

And how do you convince these people to vote for someone else, if they already believe the direction of the country is wrong, but irrespectively sign up for more of the same from the Cindy cult?
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September 9, 2022 4:40pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Women are, on average and for innate evolutionary developed reasons, strongly attracted to the story of socialism. They prefer more unconditional support of them by the state regardless of their choices efforts or behaviours. They are strongly desirous of peer approval as well (far more so than men), so will tend to side with the mob regardless of logic or even likely negative outcomes, because evolutionarily women who weren’t amiable tended to be treated badly.
  
  In contrast men had historically only about half as much chance of having kids, they had to stand out to win fortune and mates. Self reliance, risk taking, emotional and martial strength, and being less amiable were selected for. So men’s preference tend to swing to the right of politics – a system where they have more chance to shine.
  
  Note I say the story of socialism, not the inevitable practice – which is always in the end abject poverty and misery under the thumbs of despots and autocrats enabled by socialist centralisation and accretion power in a growing govt bureaucracy. Sadly our current generation of young and ignorant women, (enabled by a didactic, doctrinaire, dysfunctionally sophisticated and must-always-seek-more-radical-position academic career advancement game) have managed to construct a fantasy world where feelings are ascendant over reality, and have avoided learning the crystal clear lessons of the 20th century. They are convinced that This Time It Will Be Different™, and that dumb political choices and voting yourself rich don’t have any impact on your safety, security, or prosperity over long term.
  
  Given women are numerically and so electorally dominant, their lust for the left explains the steady political drift to the left we see, and means there is zero long-term hope for the future of western democracy. Chains of their making await our children and grandchildren.
  
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  September 9, 2022 7:02pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….the full story

Parole Board issues apology to Columbian father of murdered Christchurch woman, Juliana Herrera….

“Sorry about that, Chief”

https://twitter.com/truereckons1/status/1568021131038437376

This would have to be one of the most gut-wrenching and horrific accounts of rape and murder you will ever read….right up there with the killing of the bestie Jo Pert of Remuera in 2016.

Give me one good reason why the Death Penalty is not available for crimes of this nature?
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September 9, 2022 5:06pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Execution is generally reckoned to be more expensive than life in prison in western countries that have it. In practical terms most people are on death row for decades in the USA before being executed, which makes it all seem rather pointless to me given huge legal costs of all the exhaustive appeals processes. Also murderers tend to be mostly morons or monsters with poor impulse control, not at all clear that death penalty does much to modify behavior or choices of people with unregulated APD (psychos, sociopaths and narcissists).
  
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  September 9, 2022 7:10pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Play school TV1 Yews on soon. How many Moari TV channels does NZ have?
The speaker of the House insists on ONE NEWS. Seems NZ has shitloads of Moari Channels. I am struggling with New Zealand English today.
Fuck! Had to go out and watch the speaker of the house do the lawns. Speaker has done early BBQ so we can watch the NZ TV rubbish – and that other rubbish from R. T. Rower.
Ten are coy
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September 9, 2022 6:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Future Payback to the Dems.
https://www.facebook.com/neverimpeachtrump/posts/pfbid0nzFV74Y5Qg5V5PXZUgkTbuYozvg4zSuB99Cje3gBKAftE61Zw4HoEmTWfxeU7QQel
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September 9, 2022 6:38pm
Gravelroad

Not sure why our Prime Minister felt the need to grin and smirk all through the interview about the Queen with her mate on TV1 this evening.
Sometimes Ms Ardern just doesn’t seem to “get it”.
I thought her response was embarrassing.
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September 9, 2022 7:21pm
Ghost

Hmmm, doing a survey about how we feel about the navy

Two options they present a large decrease in the
Navy at no cost to tax payers, a large increase in the
Navy at a cost of $25 per person. That’s basically echoed throughout the survey would you support doing this at no cost or a $25 per person cost per year. Whoops just hit the $50 per person option.

Looks like the government is going after the Navy
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September 9, 2022 7:56pm
Nickc2

More info please.
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