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krazykiwi

Germany could be an uncomfortable place this winter, as the evidence bereft, eco lunacy of the Greens and their spineless political drones begins to freeze the citizenry. Energy scarcity will be uncomfortable for most, and for others it will kill. To wit: –

We recently reported Harde’s comments and referred to the fact that for years German politicians have been able to make virtuous green noises by banning nuclear and fossil fuel production, while relying on an unstable Russia to make up the energy short fall. The sheer stupidity of that policy is likely to become apparent in Germany this winter. Already problems are mounting, with the German newspaper Handlesblatt reporting that the megawatt price of electricity jumped last week to a new high in daily trading. A megawatt hour cost €563, compared to just €23 a year ago [kk: an increase of 2447%]. Of course, the ruinous policies behind Net Zero are responsible for this. In the U.K., the spike in international gas prices, and an increasing reliance on unreliable renewables, means the consumer energy price cap could be raised to £6,000, an amount that is almost certainly beyond the means of a significant portion of the population. Under these conditions, a cold winter could kill thousands of people.

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There is a theme emerging:

– Climate Change™: Conjured by the elites using fake models, after which their force-fed remedies (energy limitation, taxes) rob the masses of their agency, liberty, wealth, while costing some their lives.

– Covid-19™: Conjured by the elites using covert bio-weapon (aka ‘Gain of Function’) research, after which their force-fed remedies (lockdowns, experimental injectable products) rob the masses of their agency, liberty, wealth, while costing some their lives.

How long before people wake up? What will be next? There may be intermediary assaults, but I’m picking the next major blow to agency, liberty and wealth will be a toxic brew of Central Bank Digital Currencies mated with CCP-style social credit systems. Watch Canada. Trudeau, the pathologically aligned WEF acolyte has already started down this path.

The good news is that it’s not too late to demand our of ‘representatives’ that that they should represent us, our interests, and our aspirations rather than selling out to the snake oil salesmen of the WEP, UN et al. Luxon, are you listening?
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August 24, 2022 8:05am
- curry4me
  
  That’s an informative post. I made a cursory check of wool fututures yesterday. No sign of an upward spike yet. Will it have to wait until the chilblains, and cold showers kick in? Will Greta be getting a lot less ‘holiday cards’ from Germany this year?
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:33am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Strong wool has lifted more than $1 a kilo in the last month, and merino are virtually at record highs
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:37am
    - curry4me
      
      Oh, so wool is up? I must admit it was only a cursory look. I hope there is a wool boom. Farmers could do with some good news. Maybe some of them will buy new electric utes.
      
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      August 24, 2022 3:24pm
- artemisia
  
  Meanwhile in New Zealand –
  
  Inflation hits rural sector with dairy farmers taking the biggest blow from fuel, fertiliser prices
  
  Meanwhile, also in New Zealand – “eco lunacy of the Greens and their spineless political drones” stopping the seabed extraction of low cadmium phosphate from Chatham Rise. Has to be cheaper for farmers than shipping it in from long distances.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2022/08/inflation-hits-rural-sector-with-dairy-farmers-taking-the-biggest-blow-from-fuel-fertiliser-prices.html
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:52am
- ClanMcleod
  
  KK – This assessment of the covid situation reflects what you are saying. It is also relevant to the green/climate movement. Much of it is conjecture based on evidence, but the closing paragraph is nailed on.
  
  A key takehome is it wasn’t just panic. The response to the COVID-19 pandemic represented the triumph of a pseudo-scientific biosecurity agenda that emerged in 2005 and has been pushed ever since by a well-organised, well-funded and well-embedded network of ideologues. These fanatics promote and perpetuate the ideas underpinning the draconian new approach by publishing them in leading journals, planting them in public policy and law, pushing them in the media and smearing those who dissent, however eminent or well-qualified.
  
  This ideology is the enemy, and seeing it for what it is is the first step to defeating it.
  
  https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/22/where-lockdowns-and-fast-tracked-vaccines-came-from/
  
  This is similar to the point Eugyppius made a couple of months ago.
  
  Corona has vastly expanded the ranks of pandemic planners and public health botherers. Unless something is done, these people will destroy all of society in their radical pursuit of a few viruses.
  
  https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-pandemicists-must-be-stopped
  
  The same applies to the climate change nutters and the Green movement which is now becoming totally deranged.
  These are movements that may have began innocently enough and with the best intentions in the world, but they are now dangerously delusional.
  Baker in NZ is a prime example. Never had a real job in his life. His whole career has been in academia and climbing the public service career ladder to get to the top of the taxpayer funded trough. If you look at the other key players it is exactly the same. They are shiny arsed, bureaucrats, I can’t think of any that have had a real job?
  So our policies have been driven by career academics, modelers and ideological fantasists who have never operated in the real world in their lives. It has been an evolutionary process but as the authors of both referenced article point out, they have to be stopped.
  Shit, at least even Brenda did a stint in a fish and chip shop. It would be interesting to contact her former employer and find out if she was as crap at that as she is at running the country.
  
  This is the kindest excuse these people will ever be given for the utter mayhem and destruction they have imposed on the world. They should grab it thankfully with both hands and disappear from public view, never to utter another word of advice in their lives. If they keep this fraudulent narrative up they will be responsible for devastation on the planet not seen since the dinosaurs vanished.
  
  They have to be stopped.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:53am
- Loddenthinks
  
  It’s a very similar situation in the UK, albeit not for exactly the same reasons. Ofgem is about to release (this Friday) the energy cap from October to December 2022, and projections are that it will increase from GBP1,971 to more than GBP3,500 a year (for typical use). That’s an increase of 82% and the expectation is that it will go to GBP4,650 a year in January 23, and to GBP6,000 from April next year.
  
  The increase in October will put a significant percentage of the population into energy poverty, and the average bill over the coldest months of the year will be in excess of GBP4,100 a year.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:24am
- Pavel
  
  I see the prices you quote and thought I’d take a look at my own bill. I live 70kms out of town and not sure what I’d pay in town. Anyway I get charged 30.65 cents per kwh so to compare it to a mwh I guess I multiply it by 1000 so that would make a mwh in NZ $306.50. If only we had a Russian gas pipe running into the country; 23 euros per mwh sounds pretty good.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:29am
  - Hebe123
    
    You’re comparing the wholesale price there – 23 euros – to the retail price you pay here – 30c/kWh.
    I’ve not looked recently but I think our long run wholesale price is in the $100-150/MWh range.
    Add transpower charges (~$20) and distribution (~100-120) plus the retail margin and industry levy and you’re about bang on.
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:58pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Surveys show that everyone wants to fix climate change. Up until those fixes punch them in the face 🙂
  
  Same in New Zealand. If the lights go out and electricity prices increase 400 percent, will everyone still worship at the feet of Jacinda’s climate emergency? No there will be riots.
  
  If petrol prices head towards $4 per litre does everyone say ‘Hey that’s great we will all switch to electric cars and we will help Jacinda’? No the politicians become so terrified of the reaction that they cut fuel excise.
  
  Eventually emissions will decline as technology and energy prices change. And it will have nothing to do with governments.
  
  Here is a quiz. Name any country that has introduced policies that have materially reduced greenhouse emissions. Some countries have reduced emissions, e.g. UK. But that was because they switched out coal for gas in electricity generation. That was just markets working to introduce a cheaper and cleaner fuel.
  
  There are no examples of ‘successful’ climate change policies where success is measured in both affordable energy and material reductions in emissions.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:16am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Which is why I’ve been saying that National would have to be as mad as a cut snake to sign on to this bullshit.
    
    When they angry crowds come with the blazing torches and pitchforks, Labour and the Greens will be desperate to be able to point at National and say “But they did it too”
    
    And they’ll be right.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:46am
    - krazykiwi
      
      They are already right. Nick Smith made sure of that.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:46pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Eventually emissions will decline as technology and energy prices change. And it will have nothing to do with governments.’
    
    Even if emmissions decline it will make no difference to ‘climate change”.
    
    Climate is always changing.
    
    If they last ice age hadn’t ended some 15 -20 000 years ago , our civilisation would be very different to the one we are currently seeing slip away at the moment.
    
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    August 24, 2022 1:50pm
    - Bullion
      
      I think you need to get a sense of scale of time and speed of change:
      https://xkcd.com/1732/
      
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      August 24, 2022 3:29pm
- Bullion
  
  The models aren’t fake. A study done 2 or 3 years ago looked at the hindcast performance of 17 models and 14 were accurate, some of the models being over 50 yrs old.
  
  So, the models’ understanding of the underlying physics of the climate is pretty darn good.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:56am
  - The Scunner Campbell
    
    Then why have none of their predictions come to fruition?
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:58am
    - Bullion
      
      Depends on what you think are the predictions. I think there is a tendency for the media to focus on the extremes, a good example are covid models “model says x number of people could die from covid” with the media not saying that is the extreme end of the model based on no reaction in terms of policy or personal activity changes – but when model takes into account policy changes and individual people reacting etc. models are more accurate in predicting outcomes.
      
      So, things like glacier loss, habitat change, acidification of oceans and coral loss, increased risk of species extinction – these are fairly easily observable. Increasing intensity of heatwaves and flooding events, increased intensity of hurricanes are tracking with predictions of a warming climate
      
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      August 24, 2022 2:13pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Coral loss. Yes.
        
        https://blog.alor.org/coral-on-the-great-barrier-reef-doing-just-fine-by-james-reed
        
        You people are as deluded as the nativism lunatics and the “save every species” narcissists. You think that this period in the history of the planet is the be all and end all of life, the universe and everything in it. You talk like you are some form of Gods who deserve to be preserved forever. You are as bad as Egyptian Pharoahs, you believe you can capture time in a bottle.
        You are the most dangerous of narcissists.
        
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        August 24, 2022 8:32pm
      - Bullion
        
        https://www.unep.org/resources/status-coral-reefs-world-2020
        
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        August 24, 2022 8:59pm
      - Bullion
        
        To address your 2nd point about saving every species, well sure that would be nice but even looking at a selfish human species point of view, to minimise stress (and loss) to humanity it is preferential to look after the environment and species – its all quite interconnected.
        
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        August 24, 2022 9:23pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Luxon wants to renew oil and gas, he doesn’t need to listen, tell Cindy
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:35am
- Ian Boag
  
  a toxic brew of Central Bank Digital Currencies mated with CCP-style social credit systems
  
  Sounds scary. Can you explain it in plain English?
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:42pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    If you need it explained to you then you have seriously poor cognitive skills. Look it up.
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:36pm
Captain Mainwaring

Goodbye bully Mallard and good riddance, you won’t be missed.
Don’t let the door slam you on the arse on the way out.
And don’t piss off the Irish or you’ll get what’s coming to you.
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August 24, 2022 8:05am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The Ambassador Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to St James’ Gate ( Home of Guinness) and Jameson’s Whiskey of Dublin and Belfast
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:24am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s mildly amusing that he’s probably chosen that particular sinecure cos of Rugby HQ is there ( as well as your above mentioned)
    
    The amusement being that he possibly doesn’t realise that in many circles in the ROI , the folk with his inclinations ,I’m guessing working class , anti monarchist , republicans ie leftists in general actually see rugby union supporters in a rather hostile light . As being remnants of the ‘English colonial’ days .
    
    True Paddies you see should play Gaelic games , which rather like what’s happening here with the so called Maori renaissance are just made up expressions of extremist ethno nationalism.
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    In the North of Ireland it is Bushmills rather than Jamesons, but I enjoy both from time to time!
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:57am
  - Paulus
    
    Remember Goff is off to Washington as Ambassador later this year.
    What have the Americans done to warrant him ?
    
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    August 24, 2022 1:50pm
- Nickc2
  
  I would rather hope for an immediate recall of NZ’s Ambassador to Ireland upon our next change of Govt and replacement with a Professional Diplomat if the posting is indeed necessary.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:31am
  - kowtow
    
    There’s no way that’ll happen .
    
    Surely the Bolger appointment to Washington proves both parties play the same game , nudge nudge wink wink.
    
    two cheeks of the same arse .
    
    Or as the great Mr Trump would call it , the Swamp.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:17am
    - coge
      
      Pity Bolger didn’t stay in Washington. He’s now trying to peddle a vast climate apocalypse to the people of Kapiti.
      
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      August 24, 2022 5:36pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  But but but, no bullies in Labour, most MPs have never seen a thing, mind you Stoner Twyford looked very sheepish on Newshub in the weekend trying to lie about it
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:39am
- Raphael
  
  We should send him to be our first official ambassador to Taiwan.
  
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  August 24, 2022 4:06pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    To Kiev
    
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    August 24, 2022 7:16pm
Warren

Wow the Prime and Government have been running these surveys for months without wanting the public to know, so you have to wonder whether they have been spooked into releasing this story because of the trust in the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has wavered through the witchhunt of Gaurav Sharma.
People less willing to comply with Covid-19 rules or listen to Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern according to Government Survey.
New Zealander’s are complying less with Covid-19 rules as people’s attention shifts to issues like cost of living according to Government’s own Covid Survey.
The survey shows a significant drop off in the willingness of people to trust the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern as the main source of truth about the Pandemic.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/people-less-willing-to-comply-with-covid-19-rules-or-listen-to-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-according-to-government-survey/XC42SWUJNPNG6PXSKW5HSPPO7I/
It seems that the trust that our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern once had is now a negative in her popularity and can only get worse as we head to the next General Election in 2023.
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August 24, 2022 8:06am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Her constant backtracking, changing her narrative and lying pretty much from March 2020 should be a wake up call to the nation that she can’t be trusted. Shall we start with no one will be penalised for not taking the jab. then came mandates, people lost their jobs and she effectively divided a nation and families over a mandate she was advised not to do. I will leave it at this one for now.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “And those who choose to opt out will not be punished”
    JA
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:07am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She has lied since the day she spoke about never lying in politics before being selected by a vulgar old man to be pm, against the whole of the population
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:42am
- mandk
  
  Also interesting to see that Michael Baker and Souxsie Wiles are the least trusted people when it comes to advice on COVID.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:26am
  - Cinematic
    
    Oh the loss of face for the two msm darlings Baker and Wiles. This will have their self important knickers in a knot.
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:41am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    What about Shaun (80,000 will die) Hendy?
    He’s been very quiet lately.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:30am
    - mandk
      
      He’s probably still counting the huge amount of money his department got from the government.
      
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      August 24, 2022 10:36am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        They’re getting even more money now. The “Disinformation Project” are under the same umbrella. Te Punaha Matatini. This crowd of parasites need urgent investigation.
        
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        August 24, 2022 8:54pm
    - kowtow
      
      There will be / already are deaths .
      
      From the lack of care due to the pointless , draconian lockdowns .
      
      At least the British media are reporting that .
      
      But there’s 55 million reasons ours won’t.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:19am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Smart fella, but he’ll never be forgotten.
      
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      August 24, 2022 8:53pm
  - I remember when
    
    Is it time to admit that “the great majority of those who will die from covid” face a similar risk from a number of diseases.
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:02am
  - Bullion
    
    That’s not what the question is. It sounds like an open ended question:
    
    Whose opinion do you listen to or seek out in regards to Covid-19 in New Zealand and what is being done?
    
    So its not a direct measurement of trust (as much a measure of awareness) and it’s like the preferred PM question, it doesn’t take into account the strength of opinion where you’re 2nd most preferred PM could be held by you in just as highly.
    
    Aside from that, some of the results are pretty disappointed – only a third of people cough or sneeze into their elbow, more than half won’t stay home if sick. What’s this country coming to.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:22am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Good heavens – only a third of people cough or sneeze into their elbow? What’s the world coming to ? Off with their heads !!
      Those people probably don’t want their elbow to catch covid. //
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:56am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      “What’s this country coming to.”
      
      It’s coming to it’s senses. This country is coming out of an Ardern induced coma, of believing moronic claims from academics and modelers and useful idiots like you who have failed to get a single prediction right.
      I’m in my mid 60s. Coughing or sneezing into my elbow? I’ve never done either in my life. I don’t cough or sneeze directly, I turn away, cough into my hand or use a hankie if one is available. But it makes no difference to an aerosol based virus. Get a grip you delusional clown.
      How do you think immune systems evolve?
      You stay home in a perspex box with your double mask and your hand sanitiser. You’ll almost certainly live forever. Enjoy every minute of it.
      
      Your attempts at sounding “logical” are moronic. Nothing you have said re covid or climate change has any semblance of logic or provable evidence to support it. You sound like a classic troll. Here to attempt to inject some sort of counter position. You are as big a fraud as Ardern.
      Bring some evidence to support your ludicrous statements so far. Otherwise you’re talking out your arse.
      
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      August 24, 2022 9:02pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        Clan: 👏👏👏 Encore .. Encore
        
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        August 25, 2022 7:41am
- cas
  
  There is a good Oliver Cromwell saying. “It is not fit that you should sit here any longer. You have sat here too long for any good you have been doing lately … In the name of God go.“
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:56am
  - FrankC
    
    Oliver Cromwell also fucked over Ireland. Coincidence?
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:41am
  - kowtow
    
    Ah yes . A military dictator , fundamentalist religious extremist . Suiting himself .What’s not to like .
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:21am
- emmess
  
  Interesting,
  And note this way back between March and May.
  Attitudes would have become much more sceptical, since then.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:07am
- James Stephenson
  
  Surely I wasn’t the only one who choked on their Weetabix when she accused Dr Sharma of “misrepresenting the facts”?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:07am
- ClanMcleod
  
  It shows yet again how she is a fake construct who governs by opinion poll rather than facts and real science.
  This comment from Verrall was interesting.
  
  Public health messaging – “helped stop the spread of the virus during the initial outbreak, and slowed the spread of Delta, when it arrived, enabling New Zealand to be one of the few countries that had a highly vaccinated population before Delta was widespread in the community”
  
  A couple of points. With the real world information now available, was the idea of stopping the spread of any worth whatsoever? As she indicates, this was apparently to allow the rollout of the vaccination, but as we now know that this jab is as useless as mammaries on a masculine bovine, it means the whole exercise was a destructive and wasteful use of valuable resources.
  That if we had stuck to our normal, pandemic preparedness plans – stay home if sick, protect the most vulnerable, but otherwise carry on as normal – we would be in the same position as far as health outcomes go, but the country wouldn’t be crippled economically and the population wouldn’t be divided and mentally shredded.
  
  As per the above post regarding the academics and ideologues who drove this insanity, they need shut down and never permitted this level of influence in society ever again.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:11am
  - Nickc2
    
    As attestation to the Govt’s achievements during the Covid lock-downs, just take a walk through your local shopping precinct and observe the number of shops and restaurants etc with ‘For Lease’ or ‘For Sale’ signs displayed and imagine the heartache and trauma the Govt has inflicted through their un-necessary edicts on the owners, tenants of the businesses and their families.
    I walked through my local the other day and the sight was horrifying to say the least, and my local MP is Labour (his office was unattended at the time).
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:37am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who wants to comply with or listen to a compulsive liar?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:25am
- I remember when
  
  Is it a coincidence that “false news, conspiracy theories and people not believing the media” seem to have been increasingly condemned since the ‘climate change’ debate started.
  Regardless of your view it is very difficult to pin down the CO2, global warming proof.
  Now we have the pandemic actions introduced without the required amount of debate and agreement.
  The involvement of the WHO, in both cases, seems to be a devisive element.
  In a similar vein the increasing involvement of Gates, Bezos and Soros type entrepreneurs in influencing global decisions are concerning.
  Of the people, for the people and by the people is becoming a distant dream.
  Yet our news media seem to have deserted their role as our watchdogs and increasing are promoters of their own views.
  But worse than that they seem to have accepted the need for restrictions on debate and promoters of ‘fear’.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:26am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Everything is pretty much owned by those people you named and others of their ilk, this includes most governments. What we once called democracy is rapidly becoming a distant memory and unless enough people wake up and fight back, things will get a lot worse.
    I can’t remember exactly where I read it, but a couple of months ago, one of the major economics media outlets plainly stated that Blackrock and Vanguard fund managers will own EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET within about 10 years.
    
    Think about that.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:09pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  An unfortunate juxtaposition of two points in that Herald column:
  
  “The survey shows a significant drop off in the willingness of people to trust the Prime Minister as the main source of truth about the pandemic.
  
  People remain confident in their ability to identify misinformation”
  
  Methinks those two things are much more closely connected than the author intended.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    If only ANYONE in the media or government, or one of their experts would clearly explain to us what this “misinformation” they keep referring to actually is. Almost 3 years, you’d think we’d be updated daily on this “dangerous misinformation” but it’s apparently as hard to find as the Easter Bunny.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:12pm
Yvette

State religion?
Yesterday’s 11pm post by this blog host David Farrar, “A good case for peer review”, mentioned –
‘Point of Order’ highlights a press statement from MPI about how it turns out singing waiata help seedings to grow.

In turn, ‘The Platform’ happened to mention –
… Professor Coyne has covered all facets of that debate in depth — from the Listener letter signed by seven eminent professors a year ago to the plans to insert mātauranga Māori throughout our science and research sector proposed in a government Green Paper.
https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/don-t-ask-us-we-just-work-here

And Google reveals –
TE ARA PAERANGI – FUTURE PATHWAYS – GREEN PAPER 2021
… It is now timely to consider how we best position New Zealand’s research system for the future. A modern, future focused research system for New Zealand must strengthen the role of Māori in the system and consider how the system achieves outcomes for Māori. We need to embed Te Tiriti o Waitangi (Te Tiriti) across our RSI [research, science and innovation] system, better enabling mātauranga Māori and the interface between mātauranga and other forms of research.
https://www.mbie.govt.nz/dmsdocument/17637-future-pathways-green-paper

Mātauranga is a modern term for the traditional knowledge of Māori.
Māori traditional knowledge is multi-disciplinary and holistic, and there is considerable overlap between concepts. – Wikipedia

Whatever the precolonial Māori worldview was like, it was not dualistic. Everything was at once material and spiritual. This is perhaps the most important reason not to try to shoehorn mātauranga Māori into the science curriculum. To do so would be a disservice to both knowledge systems.
https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/reports-and-media/opinion/new-opinion-246/

New Zealand is was a secular State with no State religion, in which religious and democratic structures ~~are~~ were separated.
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August 24, 2022 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Perhaps we should just form a Matauranga Māori Research Institution and name it:
  
  “Research and Teaching Community of Ancestral Heritage”
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:40am
- Loddenthinks
  
  “knowledge systems” – what a joke. There’s science, and there’s made-up sky-god fairy stories.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:30am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “We need to embed Te Tiriti o Waitangi (Te Tiriti) across our RSI [research, science and innovation] system, better enabling mātauranga Māori and the interface between mātauranga and other forms of research.”
    
    This is appalling. It will have any competent scientists fleeing to other countries.
    
    “Research” requires the application of the Scientific Method. Maori did not apply research. They acquired ‘knowledge’ through observation and trial and error. For example:
    
    “To soothe itchy bites, they applied a juice made from crushed ngaio leaves or from fronds of rarauhe or bracken fern (Pteridium esculentum).”
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/08/general_debate_24_august_2022.html/comment-page-1#comment-3232140
    
    All societies have developed such treatments for thousands of years, through observation. But it is not science.
    
    https://teara.govt.nz/en/sandflies-and-mosquitoes/page-3
    
    Maori had no idea WHY the juice from bracken ferns cured insect bites. That is not science. It is just dumb luck.
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:38am
    - cmm
      
      Forcing mātauranga Māori into science would be the death of NZ scientific research.
      
      I can foresee that within 10 years every PhD thesis/scientific paper submitted in NZ will have to have a Tiriti acknowledgement page and Maori peer review (provided by Mahuta Treaty Academic Services Ltd).
      
      I can also foresee that all patent applications will have to go through a Maori review (proved my Mahuta Treaty Patent Services Ltd) to make sure that Maori didn’t think of it first.
      
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      August 24, 2022 10:57am
      - Nickc2
        
        The invoice for services must include GST + Koha eh?
        
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        August 24, 2022 12:04pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      All one needs to do is check out the longevity rates of Maori before ‘colonisation’ and after. I understand that the average lifespan was around 35 – 40 years before 1840. Sure, much of that was death through warfare – the wise old Maori chiefs wanted the treaty to get the benefit of British justice, which would stop the inter-tribal warfare, and all the young men being killed, which in general terms worked out pretty well. Maori life expectancy now is around 72 years – an almost doubling since colonisation.
      If Matauranga Maori was so good, why was life expectancy so low?
      
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      August 24, 2022 10:58am
      - cmm
        
        Yup, colonialism is a wonderful thing – so long as you choose you colonist carefully. Brits good, Portuguese not too bad, Belgian pretty dreadful.
        
        Without Roman colonisation Britain would probably never have grown out of the third world shithole it probably was 2000 years ago.
        
        Pax Romana was a very stabilising force in early Europe and Britain and stopped the Brits fighting themselves (as well as Gauls etc etc).
        
        Fast forward 1800 years and the Brits had become the dominant powerful and benevolent colonial force they were and passed that gift on to others. Pax Britannica has brought peace to much of the world – allowing many societies to channel their resources into development rather than warfare.
        
        2000 years ago, some poor bastard Roman soldiers were sent to Britain to hold the peace and help them develop. That likely helped my British ancestors no end, and indirectly helped me.
        
        100 years ago, both my grandfathers were passing on the favour in Africa – fighting slavery in South West Africa and German East Africa.
        
        Sure, there might be a few downsides to colonisation, but they are tiny when compared to the upsides.
        
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        August 24, 2022 11:25am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Belgian Congo was probably the worst – Belgians murdered and mutilated millions in an effort to extract more rubber production.
        
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        August 24, 2022 2:07pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        If the French has colonised New Zealand there would have been no Treaty. It would have been “Félicitations tu es français.”
        
        If the Spanish had colonised New Zealand they would have killed the existing inhabitants.
        
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        August 24, 2022 2:32pm
    - cmm
      
      By the standard presented here, animals are medical geniuses too.
      
      Cats, dogs, sheep and pretty much all other animals will seek out beneficial plants when they have ailments (including parasites).
      
      Calling out pathetic achievements like this as Maori science is really a patronising tyranny of low expectations.
      
      It’s like all the aunties gathering around and telling a baby he’s a clever boy for filling his nappy.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:13am
      - kowtow
        
        Monkey science too .
        
        Don’t they groom each other for pests ?
        
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        August 24, 2022 11:23am
Paulus

As of Irish heritage what the hell have we done to deserve the Bully Mallard ?
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August 24, 2022 8:10am
- Harry Knuts
  
  I’m of Irish heritage too and it’s an insult to send Mallard to Ireland. Siberia would have been more appropriate.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:23am
- Nickc2
  
  A couple of Irish inventions actually:
  
  1. Irish Whisky, and
  2. Guinness.
  
  Both are good products though.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:00am
  - Trev
    
    Guinness style beer or “stout porter” was actually an English invention. Guinness just continue to make a classic version of stout porter.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:02am
    - Nickc2
      
      That’ll do me Trev.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:59am
  - kowtow
    
    In Ireland Arthur Guinness would be considered “Anglo Irish”.
    If he hadn’t come up with a popular drink that Dubliners in particuler have a yen for they’d have treated him with the same disdain they do for other great Irishmen , such as Wellington or Henry Wilson.
    
    And he was just using an already known recipe , with his own twist .
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:27am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I know, I feel sorry for my family over there.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:13am
- MCōs
  
  I doubt if anyone over there will even notice he’s there any more than the average person ever pays any attention to our ambassadors anywhere, ever.
  BTW
  ‘Irish heritage’
  What’s that supposed to mean?
  My great grand father was Irish & I have his name, but I couldn’t tell you who any of our ambassadors to the country have been, nor do I care.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:26am
  - cmm
    
    “I doubt if anyone over there will even notice he’s there”
    
    Except for us few nett tax payers who have to fund this junket.
    
    There are probably only around 100k nett tax payers in NZ so it’s probably going to cost us $50 each (assuming it costs around $5M a year to keep him there).
    
    I agree though that nobody will even know he’s there which means it’s a bloody waste of time sending him. If the sod does want to go, let him raid his own piggybank.
    
    While the Irish population is small, its global genetic footprint is quite large. That Irish fighting seems to be balanced by a lot of loving too.
    I’m about 25% Irish and my wife is over 80% though we’ve never been there (and never intend to).
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:43am
    - crikey
      
      Hey cmm, perhaps taxpayers would be willing to spend $50 (a year) as the price for Mallard not being here.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:14am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      You should go for a visit. You never know, you might quite like it.
      
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      August 24, 2022 7:25pm
  - Sacha
    
    The first residentialNZ Embassy in Ireland was opened by Winston in November 2018perhaps they were planning ahead?
    
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    August 24, 2022 6:53pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’ve no problem sending him there. It’s the coming back I dislike.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:52am
Surely Knott

Mayoral candidate Viv Beck article doesn’t make sense.. NZ Herald alleges that she has changed agencies and their is a 6 figure bill with the old agency who has locked access to her original facebook and website page.

“Beck was recently confronted over the bill and expressed surprise over the size of it, the Herald was told.” (Who confronted her over the bill. The agency or the Herald? Because later on in the article the Herald claim not to know who the agency is.)

“It was said to have still not been paid and the agency which had done the work, for which there was no written agreement, withheld access to Beck’s online presence.”

Beck told the Herald: “There was a disagreement over this work and resolution is being worked through.”

“It was unknown which advertising agency was originally doing work for Beck. A request for comment was sent through Beck’s original Facebook page but by last night no response had been received.”

So the Herald say they know from original work how big the bill is, that their was no written agreement, that Becks was presented with the bill, but they don’t know who the Agency actually is???? Rubbish.

Then they say “A request for comment was sent through Beck’s original Facebook page but by last night no response had been received.”” So the Herald seeks comment by messaging the old inactive facebook page that hasn’t been updated since April according to the article and gets no response which makes it sound like she’s dodging commenting.

When earlier in the article she has clearly communicated with them because she said “Beck told the Herald: “There was a disagreement over this work and resolution is being worked through.””
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August 24, 2022 8:18am
- H. Upmann
  
  SK: Another Fisher attack on someone he obviously wants to sabotage.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Fisher is probably the lowest of the low when it comes to journalists in NZ. He’s a complete dog and deserves to be investigated as soon as this covid circus is over.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:15pm
- Nickc2
  
  Who in their right mind would trust a word written in the Herald? They’re on the Govt’s payrole FFS!
  It must be remembered that Collins is the Govt’s supported Candidate and as Dr. Sharma would probably testify to, dirty tricks are part of this Govt’s arsenal.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:13am
- Loddenthinks
  
  It’s not necessary to communicate with a party with whom you have a commercial disagreement – have you not heard of lawyers?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:32am
- yobi
  
  Whats the bet that when they say “six figure sum,” they’re including the two figures to the right of the decimal point.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:57am
- Harry Knuts
  
  I read the same article too this morning and was surprised that there was apparently not a written agreement to amount being charged – so all would know costs up front? Isn’t this the basis of a commercial agreement first and foremost?
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:08am
Maggie Pie

Twitter rife with speculation that Cindy is about to resign as PM.
Wants to spend more time with her family (which is understandable).
According to insiders, she’s depressed by the constant attacks on her integrity.

Here’s hoping anyway 😀
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August 24, 2022 8:19am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Let’s hope twitter is the source of truth on this nugget of goss. The sooner the better.
  Perhaps she’s depressed that she’s been caught out so many times that she has no integrity??!!
  The UN is waiting for her – i’ll even pack her bags for her.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:25am
  - H. Upmann
    
    HK: If in fact Ardern does make it to UN, the damage to this country will continue at another level.
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:56am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I have heard Luxon say the government should not let the UN dictate, you maybe surprised next year
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:45am
      - mawm
        
        He must be loud and clear that he believes in national sovereignty, has no contact with or allegiance to the WEF and that we are not going to be governed/dictated to by the UN and WHO. That is the least he must do.
        
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        August 24, 2022 5:43pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        I wish he’d speak up a bit. I’m on the fence, I haven’t heard a definitive word out of him in a year re the “co governance” and covid circuses. Certainly nothing about the influence of the UN and WHO on this country.
        I’m not saying he hasn’t, but he hasn’t done a great job getting it out past the Party faithful.
        
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        August 24, 2022 9:18pm
  - Paulus
    
    Doubt if the UN will find a hole for her – perhaps Ukraine !
    She is no longer favoured wonderwoman in the Overseas media.
    
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    August 24, 2022 1:57pm
    - mawm
      
      As her usefulness has expired she can join Greta on the sidelines.
      
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      August 24, 2022 5:44pm
- dave_c_
  
  May those attacks continue !!!
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:26am
- krazykiwi
  
  “she’s depressed by the constant attacks on her integrity”
  
  Perhaps instead of playing the victim she could instead apologize for wrecking the futures of millions of New Zealanders
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:27am
  - graham
    
    More likely she’ll double down, do a Poto and claim that people are only having a go because she’s a woman …
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:41am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    And apologise for the lies.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:07am
  - Ghost
    
    Any apology from her would be a lie.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:37am
- Tarquin North
  
  Why would she want to spend more time with Clarke? He makes my mother in law look interesting.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If it’s true, it’s because she can’t survive in Parliament without Mallard propping her up.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:42am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    Another Labour MP will provide the same protection.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:07am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The bully Kieran McAnulty
      
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      August 24, 2022 9:16am
- The Other Enoch
  
  Oh Maggie, you darling thing. You’ve made my day and it’s not yet 9:00am.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:50am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She has no integrity
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:12am
  - Ghost
    
    She doesn’t even know the meaning of it.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:34am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Certainly the first, and probably the last time I’ll say this. But in her case it’s warranted.
  
  I hope the door hits you on the arse really, really hard on the way out.
  
  I’ve never wanted to see the back of someone so much.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:15am
- Frank the tank
  
  What a tease.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:21am
- john1234
  
  When something sounds too good to be true…
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:23am
- cas
  
  Perhaps she will say she’s resigning, wait for people to say “oh no please don’t go”, and then she’ll say well OK I’ve changed my mind.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:25am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    ohh god – i hope not…
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:13am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I hope you are right but it is probably just wishful thinking.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:33am
- Lee C
  
  Well, the numbers of suicides, homeless people, cancelled surgeries, crapped out economy, inflation, hospital waiting lists would depress anyone.
  
  Oh, sorry, I keep forgetting.
  
  It’s all about her, isn’t it?
  
  Perhaps if she took some responsibility it might be a valuable first step to betterment.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:34am
  - kevn
    
    @LeeC… “Concede’ that’s the word we want to hear. “Concede I have failed NZ”.
    Then just… go.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:46am
    - Don Beckett
      
      She has certainly jepradised her future.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:06am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    Your list is all on her head. You want the top position then you gotta perform. She hasn’t performed for the advancement of this nation and it’s people. We are going backwards.
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:14am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Twitter’s doing its best to protect the Princess from the ~~justified holding to account by a frustrated citizenry~~ nasty mean people who refuse to recognise her kindness.
  
  The recently-trending #ResignJacinda is nowhere to be found and no longer auto-populates. Big Tech, telling us what not to think since forever.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:35am
- RockyJ
  
  That would be truly great news
  
  Can you imagine her valedictory address?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It will be the same shit as Clark and Cullen.
    Exit, stage left <<<<<
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:07pm
- vant
  
  If she resigns now in several ways she can still go out on a “high” note.
  
  If she resigns next year her departure will be very unceremonious.
  
  Could someone please provide a protest tally (excluding climate change protests) by NZ prime minister in recent history? I’ve seen more anti-government protests in the last year than in the previous 20 years. Why so many protests if Ardern is popular as the MSM have us believe?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:45am
  - Ghost
    
    Include strikes
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:13am
    - Paulus
      
      You got it wrong – when she got in she said that there would be “no strikes on my watch” !
      
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      August 24, 2022 2:00pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Hey STOP She still hasn’t had the pop up wedding mean things
    
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    August 24, 2022 6:47pm
- Nickc2
  
  A Labour Govt shedding its baggage? Unique but necessary I would have thought!
  Is she too headed to Ireland with her daughter’s Godfather?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:46am
- Surely Knott
  
  Constant attacks on *her* integrity…lol yesterday stuff ran an article that said MP Sharma was in the netherworld and his claims were fantastical. Patrick Gower tweeting he’s in Siberia. Tova’s today programme showed a pic of a labour logo with a person kicking another person high into the air that says good bye Sharma thanks for the drama. Continue your crusade on your own dime.
  I wonder what would happen if a private business dealt with workplace issues like this.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:08am
  - Nickc2
    
    Like a female scorned, Labour have no shame.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:50am
- alloytoo
  
  I would never attack the PM’s integrity, it’s too small a target, practically non-existent.
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:32am
G152

Where is the greenies alternative to those large fossil fueled earth moving machines required to repair the natural disaster damage recently done to roading and infrastructure.
Are they building some large battery powered machinery capable of working in remote areas for extended periods of time?
Or is this side of nature and natural events to much for their one track minds and they go along with what works
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August 24, 2022 8:21am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Surely teams of workers armed with shovels and picks and buckets could cycle to the land slips and damaged river banks and carry out the repair work.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:50am
  - nathie
    
    Zero carbon emissions! Surely someone in the Wellington bureaucracy will like that idea and adopt it as new Govt policy!
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:54am
    - Harry Knuts
      
      i dunno – fart-emissions could be a new problem for the greenies for that many people involved in manual labour.
      
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      August 24, 2022 10:18am
  - Matt Long
    
    An excellent idea, the green party is no doudt full of volunteers.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:05am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Get those nephs off the couch!
    
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    August 24, 2022 7:36pm
- kowtow
  
  Not to mention the quarrying needed for all the stuff to fill all the holes .
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:50am
  - Ehlana
    
    I believe the quarrying was historically the work of prisoners. But we’ve emptied the prisons.
    
    On the other hand, why does a society without vehicles (colonial imposition) need roads anyway?
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:00am
- GJM
  
  You only need a walking track for your bicycle, so that can be dug by pick and shovel by the inmates from the Gulag. That will teach them not to wrongthink.
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:15am
nathie

Were the complaints that Labour used against Sharma a stitch up?

Were those unnamed and unknown office staffers used by Labour to lay a complaint after Sharma first went to the media two weeks ago?

In order to smear Sharma’s credibility?

Have a listen to HDPA interviewing Megan Woods yesterday (mainly from the 3 minute mark onwards) and make up your own mind.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/megan-woods-labour-mp-following-the-partys-expulsion-of-gaurav-sharma/

So did Megan Woods inadvertently expose a Labour attempt to re-write the media and public narrative in their favor?

If so, is that why Labour do not want an independent investigation? Because such an investigation would have confirmed the timing of the complaints made against Sharma?
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August 24, 2022 8:27am
- Tricati
  
  Thanks for posting – I think that is the nub of the issue. From what I understand Dr Sharma raised concerns over a parliamentary staffer working in his office being drunk at work and performed poorly.
  As a result of his complaint, parliamentary services decided to throw a 1st term MP under the bus, aided and abetted by the Labour Whips office. Now we know why Labour don’t wont an independent investigation.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:36pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  3 pies is very good at giving an answer that has nothing to do with the question asked.
  
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  August 24, 2022 4:29pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXNjDI865T0
The Freedom & Rights Coalition Protest in Wellington – August 23rd 2022 – Livestream 1.

The Freedom & Rights Coalition (TFRC / FARC) protest starting in Civic Square, followed by a March down Willis Street and Lambton Quay to Parliament. The protest ended with a mock court case – “The People’s Court”, where a prosecutor with a case against the government brought witnesses to the stand to testify before a judge and jury (the people). Unsurprisingly the jury found the government guilty. [Who said it was only the Marxists who did political theatre? 4:04]
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August 24, 2022 8:28am
- I remember when
  
  Thank goodness for that ‘mock’ trial of Jacinda and the Labour Government.
  Otherwise the breathless stories in the media of possible attempts to camp again, start fires and cause unlimited mayhem would have had no follow-up.
  Endless predictions despite Bishop Brian having no track record for leading such protests.
  Almost ‘false news’ and ‘conspiracy theory.’
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:42am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbmHvBiqepw
Will Winston Peters rule out working with the Labour Party again?

He has come out swinging against Labour’s woke racist policies. However anyone who is stupid enough to believe a word he says deserves another three years of Stalinda as PM. He cannot be believed. End of story. [18:54]
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August 24, 2022 8:29am
- oldfella
  
  Curry, a friend of mine has just written to NZF in response to that recent statement.
  Greetings
  Yes, Winston is right again.
  What a pity that in 2017 removing the Maori seats was non-negotiable.
  What I had not realised was that non-negotiable meant not until the Monday morning, 36 hours after the election.
  Why would I trust him again?
  And so say most of us…
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:26am
  - curry4me
    
    After 2017 anyone would be a complete fool to trust NZ First. It has never been about New Zealand being put first.
    
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    August 24, 2022 3:41pm
- MCōs
  
  “Will Winston Peters rule out working with the Labour Party again?”
  
  It’s neither here nor there if he’s never in parliament again & I won’t be wasting a vote on NZF to find out.
  
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  August 24, 2022 1:03pm
  - curry4me
    
    Good to know you won’t waste a vote on NZ Worst either. I crtainly won’t.
    
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    August 24, 2022 3:42pm
Stellaboxer

I have a box of fireworks to add a little extra to the party I’ll be throwing when she leaves office regardless of the circumstances of the departure.
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August 24, 2022 8:32am
Tricati

One the news last night, La Leche League need $150,000 to keep afloat this years and Plunket need $1.5 Million so are selling assets to keep afloat. Both these organisations were a great help to us when children born, and it’s an absolute disgrace that we see daily waste of millions, if not billions of dollars, and the government can’t find funding for these organisations.
Society would be better off with the $2.5 million given to the Mongrel Mob going to La Leche League & Plunket. It appears NZ is loosing its moral compass, especially when a bully gets a diplomatic postings.
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August 24, 2022 8:35am
- cas
  
  How does the lack of funding for la Leche for example compare with the over $300k to open Transmission Gully. Shows the Govt’s priorities.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:22am
- oldfella
  
  Tricati, if those organisations pitched their case in Te Reo, they could probably tap into the govt’s 100 million dollar fund to support traditional Maori health practises. //
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:29am
  - Tricati
    
    I did notice Plunket have the ‘expected’ Maori name now in front of Plunket, so as you say, surprising a nominal Koha hasn’t been made.
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Why don’t they use their own Moari money?
    What’s that? They need more coz they spent the last settlement dollars?
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:40pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Oldfella – you are closer to the mark than you realise. Old Plunket supported my wife with all of our babies, checking development at prescribed intervals up to the start of school. New Plunket was outed a couple of years ago as a service offered predominantly to Maori and Pasifika. Staff were disturbed by the change to the way services were to be offered and it was reported on at that time. Most White people stopped meeting the threshold of need for their service. Probably a precursor to the new raced based health system.
    
    My guess is the people excluded from the service were those who gave back the most in time, efforts, and money for fundraising. So likely they will get more Government funding to offset the costs of colonisation and the destruction of white privilege.
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:39pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  La Leche – ok. Plunket – not so much. It’s been corporatised, spending big money on executive salaries. It’s far from the volunteer-led organisation it used to be, when its funds went in its programs.
  
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  August 24, 2022 7:40pm
Maggie Pie

“New Zealanders see a bit of themselves in Trevor Mallard”

– Megan Woods. ZB Breakfast this morning.

LOL!!
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August 24, 2022 8:49am
- Tricati
  
  I have never called a person a rapist and ruined their career, or played Barry Manalo music – Could be accused of playing Doobie Brothers music a bit load back in the day tho.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You can play Barry Manalo anywhere you like – just not in hearing distance from my place, there will be issues and tissues!
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:43pm
- cmm
  
  Yup, 54 years ago when I was a schoolyard bully.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:04am
  - Ruawai
    
    CMM you had better not stand as a National MP or this will come out in the media.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:10am
    - cmm
      
      As I once shot a criminal I think I’m screwed.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:27am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        That shot did the job??
        
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        August 24, 2022 4:44pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Righty-ho, that would seem to rule you out from ever holding office, ever, Forever.
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:36am
- Frank the tank
  
  In fairness most have us have done a Mallard/Big Sam in our past.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:22am
  - cmm
    
    Not in our 40s.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:27am
- Prince
  
  Only with the aid of two mirrors, and only when I bend over.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:33am
  - Ghost
    
    Shivers, keep your erotic fantasies with Trevor in the closet
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:10am
  - kowtow
    
    haha
    
    that’s the one about the astronomer’s advice about how to see Uranus.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It works! 2 mirrors when looking at the groin entry to see if it has stopped bleeding after prostate biopsy.
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:56pm
- Ghost
  
  Eeew, no thanks
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:38am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Yes, my backside.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:54am
  - Ghost
    
    Kinky
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:10am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      The flatulence
      
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      August 24, 2022 10:36am
- Opie
  
  Only if it’s my boot and his backside
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:44am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  And we daily grunt that little bit out, wipe and flush.
  
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  August 24, 2022 2:23pm
kowtow

Did anyone esle notice the tv1 reporter for the Apostlic Bishop’s protest yesterday actually explained that the court set up by said protest had no jurisdiction in New Zealand .

Are tv1 folk so thick that they feel the need to spell that out , or do they consider their audience is so thick that they need to or are they afraid they’ll be pinged by the very active but ridiculous Disinformation Project for “misinformation” if they don’t put huge disclaimers on their “reports” .
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August 24, 2022 8:56am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  TV1’s audience is indeed thick, otherwise they wouldn’t be watching TV1.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:09am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    It’s possible TV1 news is watchable without the sound but I haven’t tried that.
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:30am
    - Ehlana
      
      These fish are also watchable without the sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8A79Tlyi4
      
      And much better for your mental health.
      
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      August 24, 2022 11:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  TV1 reporters are children
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:10am
- Harry Knuts
  
  And that is the low quality of journos NZ is churning out. One’s that have to spell out the obvious. Even a 5yr old would have known it’s all theatrics.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:30am
- oldfella
  
  Hey, maybe the Disinformation Project could investigate Cindy and her govt. Plenty of disinformation there to go around.
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:32am
- curry4me
  
  It was political theatre. Probably some of the team of $55 million are that thick. They certainly hold most Kiwis in contempt.
  
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  August 24, 2022 3:45pm
krazykiwi

8:57AM and almost no downticks. Bender party at Fraser House last night?
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August 24, 2022 8:57am
- krazykiwi
  
  Correction: Zero downticks
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:58am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Well milky’s a bender, I’d state that to a certainty.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:37am
Maggie Pie

Probably a bit early but what the hell 😀

A tennis bestie has just shared this…….

GUCCI COOCHI ?

https://trib.al/FTuwJnK
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August 24, 2022 9:04am
- Loddenthinks
  
  The person who decided to do away with the camel toe deserves the same fate as the man that invented the sports bra.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:40am
- pdm
  
  Maggy. – late brother in law used to call them `mumble pants’.
  
  I can see your lips moving but cannot understand what you are saying.
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:59am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Never too early for a camel toe comment!
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:32am
- mogg
  
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cuHYJuSU39o
  Here is the soundtrack to go with it, curtesy of the Beach Boys. It’s about the funniest thing on the internet.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:05pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!!!!
    
    tuna-casserole 😛
    
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    August 24, 2022 12:40pm
    - mogg
      
      All in the best possible taste.
      
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      August 24, 2022 1:17pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        In my mind you were throwing your legs in the air to cross them as you said that!
        
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        August 24, 2022 4:32pm
I remember when

A friend who recently arrived in London became worried about a clot in their leg that seemed to be slowly moving up leg.
Rang doctor and was told to go to the A&E at the hospital.
Short trip to hospital and received immediate attention.
While filling in the necessary forms their blood pressure was being measured.
Blood test taken almost immediately followed by an ultra sound.
Doctor told them they would see them when the blood test results were available.
The blood test results were explained, they were given a prescription for 6 weeks of Rivaroxaban
and told to contact their doctor as soon as they arrived back in New Zealand.
Home again within three hours.

Just like in New Zealand?
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August 24, 2022 9:05am
- Ghost
  
  Depends where you live and how busy they are, I’ve always found A&E good down here. Was up there the other night with a relative , seen straight away, scans done, worked out what was going on medicated and sent home within 4 hours
  
  I also have friends in the uk, one who had diverticulitis a few months ago, had to wait 3 weeks to get a phone appointment with her gp, then sent for bloods, then another phone appointment a few weeks later after it had cleared.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:09am
- herb1
  
  No not like in NZ
  I SPENT 2 weeks recently after an accident left me with a number of broken bones and all the symptoms of blood clots. It was only after I left hospital I went to a specialist for one of my fractures who asked me how I was . When I said I’m still coughing up blood and mentioned a bullying incident I had while in hospital he sent me straight to ED where they discovered blood clots in both lungs and a lot of fluid.
  The incident I had in hospital was a sudden incredible stabbing pain in my ribs and an inability to breathe. All I got from this was the Nurse who came in , when I told her I couldn’t breathe asked me what I wanted her to do about it. I said if you don’t bloody well do something you might as well call an undertaker because I genuinely thought I was going to die
  The result was a young doctor coming in not concerned about my breathing difficulties , launched into me about being rude to the nurse and then made me get out of my bed to pick up my blankets which had fallen on the floor.
  I had a broken hip among many broken bones.
  Later I was told by 2 surgeons that I was having a Pulmonary embolism which is often fatal
  One of the surgeons is investigating a formal complaint against the doctor but the hospital have no records of who was on duty. I was asked to go back in weeks later with further complications.
  I refused
  The staffing issues at hospitals are dangerous
  There are some very very good staff but the shortages , which one of the surgeons told me are the worst in his 35 years at the hospital and are the reason most of his operations are cancelled. Rant over
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:18am
ClanMcleod

El gato malo reminds people about the importance of checking your sources. I saw the post referred to a week or so ago.

It was a Twitter post, apparently of a star, Proxima Centauri.

https://twitter.com/EtienneKlein/status/1553765864553472003?s=20&t=TAF6dC6SaB6t8MDIxz_NXQ

As the author pointed out:

“In view of certain comments, I feel obliged to specify that this tweet showing an alleged picture of Proxima Centauri was a joke. Let’s learn to be wary of the arguments from positions of authority as much as the spontaneous eloquence of certain images,” he tweeted.

El gato malo concurs.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-proxima-salami?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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August 24, 2022 9:35am
Ghost

Bloody hell, John Farnham underwent an 11 hour operation to remove a tumour.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/300669313/john-farnham-in-icu-after-11hour-surgery-following-cancer-diagnosis
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August 24, 2022 9:42am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “”We don’t know too much about the type of cancer that he does have. We know there is a tumour involved, but we don’t know where on his body that would be….””
  
  An 11 hour surgery points to a brain tumour. 🙁
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:51am
  - Ghost
    
    They saying from his mouth
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/aug/24/john-farnham-had-mouth-cancer-removed-in-surgery-singers-family-reveals
    
    “John has been through an 11-and-a-half hour surgery in Melbourne yesterday and is now in a stable condition in ICU,” Jill wrote.
    
    “The cancer tumour was located in his mouth and it has been successfully removed.
    
    “There is still a long road of recovery and healing ahead of us, but we know John is up for that task.”
    
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    August 24, 2022 12:23pm
    - Ghost
      
      Damn, more released, they had to remove part of his jaw, then a reconstruction team came back in to reconstruct his jaw.
      
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      August 24, 2022 2:25pm
      - Sacha
        
        The Aussies are good at managing those long ops with multi-specialist input. I once worked in theatre while a 9 hour surgery was performed. It was long and exhausting and fraught with tension but no-one would have missed the opportunity to assist wit the experience.
        
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        August 24, 2022 7:20pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Is he jabbed? Had a booster recently?
  
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  August 24, 2022 9:26pm
thirteenstars

Ann Widdecombe, former Conservative Minister in Major’s government, and a very high profile political surrogate, Brexiteer, supposed friend of British liberties, calling for national ID cards in the UK because of the current “emergency”, illegal immigrants being indistinguishable from UK citizens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4-Y4PcttSI

She also calls for random stop and search, at which point the police would demand, Papers, please! and you would be required to present your ID card, which you would have to carry with you at all times.

That’s why conservatives can never be trusted. Principles that stretch only as far as the next so-called emergency. Authoritarians of the right are as dangerous as those of the left.

In fact it’s the woke laxity of immigration policies and the feckless police forces of the Western world that have created this emergency in the first place. Enforce the bloody laws, of which there are already too many, and the problem will be fixed.

But no, instead we have a call to create the sort of surveillance state of which the Nazis would be envious.
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August 24, 2022 9:43am
- krazykiwi
  
  “Authoritarians of the right are as dangerous as those of the left.”
  
  The old left-vs-right dichotomy is finished, but practically all voters still believe this is the basis of the democratic political franchise.
  
  It is not.
  
  The active dichotomy, whether or not represented by today’s parties, is this: the liberal democrats who endorse personal agency and national sovereignty, or the thinly disguised tyrants who endorse supranational elites and global technocrats.
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:01am
  - thirteenstars
    
    It *is* represented by today’s parties except they all occupy the authoritarian bottom of the political triangle, the apex representing individual liberty and small government, the further you descend towards that wide bottom the more flavours of authoritarianism you encounter, from atheistic communists to Christian socialists, Labour, the Greens, National, hell, even ACT is only about a third of the way up, if that.
    
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    August 24, 2022 11:57am
    - Ian Boag
      
      OTOH as far as the surveillance thing goes. I have an IRD number (several actually), an NHI number, a driver licence number, a passport number, and probably a few others that I don’t recall just now. Good to know that I am not able to be followed around by the gummint ….
      
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      August 24, 2022 12:57pm
      - thirteenstars
        
        There you have it, Brothers and Sisters, the ugly personification of The Thin End of the Wedge.
        
        Sure, we’ve got a few numbers, most of them highly contextual, and most of them voluntary, but screw it, let’s just replace them with one big number, a number issued at birth that follows you everywhere, a number you must carry with you at at all times, to be presented to an ever-growing infestation of government employees, failure to do so under pain of prosecution.
        
        And while we’re at it, let’s have random searches of private homes, after all we already have random stopping on the roads, without cause, just in case. Open that door, Citizen. Got something to hide?
        
        And let’s pass those hate speech, disinformation and disharmony laws ASAP. We already have a Censor who bans all kinds of nasty stuff so why not a bit more? It’s all for your own safety and protection.
        
        After all, you’ve got nothing to worry about if you’ve done nothing wrong.
        
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        August 24, 2022 1:53pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  The “refugees” flooding into Britain in their thousands have nothing to do with lax immigration policies. They are there illegally, in defiance of the policies that exist – which, by the way, would have refused them entry if they did go through the proper channels and apply for asylum.
  
  I’m assuming you’re not advocating for open immigration with no checks, so what’s your solution to identify and deal with thousands of illegal immigrants?
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:27pm
Paulus

Interestingly I have recently heard that with List MPs it is the selected Parliamentary staff who are charged with keeping them in line, on time, and whatever, and wherever they are told to do and be..
So I can understand Sharma being told off as he is an experienced Manager and does not expect to be treated like a child.
The staff with years of experience in their jobs expect teir charges to just listen, and told what to do.
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August 24, 2022 9:54am
- Spam
  
  So I can understand Sharma being told off as he is an experienced Manager and does not expect to be treated like a child.
  
  And therein lies the problem with the entire country and Jacinda’s manner of speaking to us.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Jacinda Ardern acknowledged yesterday that Sharma’s staffing problems had been badly handled.
  
  Parliamentary Services seemed unable to handle a simple employment manner.
  Sharma initially complained that he had been provided with a poorly performing staffer and did not think that person deserved to have their employment contract renewed.
  
  At that point Parliamentary Services should have either ended the staffer’s contract or upskilled the poorly performing staffer, or moved them elsewhere.
  
  The fact that this employment issue dragged on for nearly 18 months and Labour Party whips became involved and left Sharma without any office staff indicates something very rotten.
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/sharma-saga-shines-light-on-complex-employment-process
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:59am
  - Ruawai
    
    Megan Woods on ZB with Heather du Plessis last night said Sharma’s complaint preceded the staffers complaint.
    
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    August 24, 2022 12:36pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I suppose we will never discover whether the poorly performing staffer was closely allied to the Labour Party and how open & transparent their original appointment was.
      
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      August 24, 2022 3:34pm
- MCōs
  
  Doctor Sharma is not an experienced manager.
  He spent years as an academic and then practicing medicine under supervision.
  
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  August 24, 2022 4:52pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Sharma may not be an experienced manager… but Parliamentary Services is paid bloody good taxpayer $$$$$ to provide good management for staff and MPs.
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:36pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  “Interestingly I have recently heard that with List MPs…..So I can understand Sharma being told off”.
  
  Sharma is an Electorate MP, is he not?
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:32pm
Maggie Pie

INTERESTING FACTOID:

Only one-to-two percent of the worlds population are natural Ginga’s.

– WebMd.
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August 24, 2022 10:17am
- thirteenstars
  
  And some of are working hard to bring that number down further.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:25am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Outside Asia and Africa I’m betting a much different number.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:27am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Apparently also ranga’s also have a higher tolerance to anesthesia. Got told that one years ago.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:35am
- Jack5
  
  A fascinating concentration of redheads in Umurtia, in Russia near the Volga.
  
  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Russia%27s+reheads+-+Umurtia&atb=v328-1&iax=images&ia=images
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:07pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Old Viking stomping ground – they used to voyage up and down the Volga to the middle east trading and slaving.
    
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    August 24, 2022 2:37pm
    - Jack5
      
      Viking origins of red hair? Perhaps, but this map shows lesser proportion of redheads in modern Scandinavia compared with Umurtia, Scotland, and Western Ireland.
      
      The map:
      
      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VR1l95EjC2w/Vhgaa47uuAI/AAAAAAAADAw/iMtrAX7_8d8/s1600/Udmurt.jpg
      
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      August 24, 2022 9:08pm
- Swifty
  
  They’re great in the sack.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:47pm
cas

BTW the Council 4 Local Democracy which represents 31 Councils is before the Select Committee today in Wellington to present its submission against 3 Waters. A 180 pages submission and a body representing 31 Councils gets 10 minutes. And that includes questions.

I gather they are mindful that some members of the Cttee might like to ask lengthy questions to waste time.

10 bloody minutes. This Govt needs to be kicked out immediately
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August 24, 2022 10:27am
Maggie Pie

Wonder whose in town?
My partner has text to say that 4 Crown cars and 8 Police motorbikes have just pulled into the Sky Hotel.

Must be someone important to have those police resources allocated to them….considering all the crime that needs solving in the city 🙁
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August 24, 2022 10:32am
- Harry Knuts
  
  PM of Ireland begging Cindy to cancel Mallard’s impending relocation?
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:37am
  - MCōs
    
    Ireland doesn’t have a PM.
    They have a Taoiseach.
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:40pm
    - kowtow
      
      Still a PM , whatever name you give it.
      
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      August 24, 2022 5:44pm
      - MCōs
        
        The leader of the Irish government is not called the prime minister.
        Nor is the leader of the German government and I’m sure others beside.
        
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        August 24, 2022 10:58pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Will Mallard be able to spell that?
      
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      August 24, 2022 9:11pm
- Jethrod
  
  Perhaps it is the interview team from the United Nations in town for a stopover?
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:54am
- RalphT
  
  And headed up Symonds St and down Mt Eden Road at 11.30
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:51am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Speculation it’s ‘BlackRock’ checking out their new asset.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:12pm
- Ghost
  
  Finnish PM to party and bare her breasts with her friends, dear God please don’t let jacinda or Helen be her bare breasted friend
  
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  August 24, 2022 1:23pm
Spam

With the Nelson flooding being breathlessly linked to Climate Change, What the Media Won’t Tell You About (flooding) is timely.
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August 24, 2022 10:37am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  If it’s hot, cold, wet, dry, windy or calm it’s all due to global warming helpfully renamed as climate change.
  
  Thankfully that gives endless employment to “journalists” and “scientists”, no intelligence needed.
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:45am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Perhaps it’s time to rename the 6pm weather report as the climate change report for the day. Nothing like a bit of fear-porn from the MSM to brighten everyone’s day!
  
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  August 24, 2022 10:55am
Gravelroad

In one of our local give-away papers today there is (what used to be called a Vox pop) survey which asked random people about their interest in the local body election candidates.
One person responded:
“I hope that no candidate is a VFF sympathiser (anti vaxxer and anti misinformation protagonist) with a determination to oust democracy.
We don’t want them”.
What’s all this ousting democracy about?
How can anyone who is elected to a local governance council go about ousting democracy?
You have to wonder where this stupid, ignorant idea has come from that residents in a small NZ town would be worried about such rubbish.
I’d be more worried if there was no election.
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August 24, 2022 10:58am
- oldfella
  
  Gravelroad:
  
  I’d be more worried if there was no election.
  
  Then it’s just as well you don’t live in Tauranga, ‘cos we don’t have a local body election this year. Democracy be buggered. Thanks, Nanaia.
  
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  August 24, 2022 11:39am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Don’t get too bent out of shape. There have always been complete idiots in the wider population.
  
  Just like weather vs climate.
  
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  August 24, 2022 7:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/unprecedented-judge-ruling-moves-trump-raid-affidavit-one-step-closer-to-release/?
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August 24, 2022 11:19am
- virtualmark
  
  Be careful what you wish for.
  
  The affidavit was compelling enough to convince a Judge of probable cause that the Espionage Act had been breached.
  
  As far as I can find, every time charges have been laid under the Espionage Act they have been proven, and the accused has been jailed.
  
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  August 24, 2022 4:11pm
  - virtualmark
    
    One thing that I did find though …
    
    In his 24 years as a judge Merrick Garland had *none* of his judgments overturned on appeal. He is clearly very thorough, disciplined and careful.
    
    So if he personally approved the application for a search warrant then that’s likely bad news for the target.
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:30pm
  - virtualmark
    
    That said, I’m not convinced Trump will ever be jailed.
    
    I can see a scenario where he’s guilty, but “the system” won’t want to see an ex-President go to jail so some deal will be worked out.
    
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    August 24, 2022 6:15pm
Maggie Pie

What happens if you marry your cousin?

According to ‘The Spectator’….you get a very talented family.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/08/a-very-talented-family/
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August 24, 2022 11:23am
- Ghost
  
  The charges against them are withdrawn by the crown?
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:21pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  A very good article/summary of both the Mahuta whanau/money and positions being handed out/co-governance mechanisations.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:50pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  You kids have average IQ lowered by 3 points, and about 3-6% with congenital birth defects. Ie it’s a really bad idea. Pakistani culture serves as a warning to the world.
  
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  August 24, 2022 2:42pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    There was a v good UK doco on this and the results in some families are tragic.
    
    The first Pakistani Lady to get a Life Peerage has campaigned against this but she is up against poor education and the control the Imams have over their “flock”
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CATGNw6KvWg
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August 24, 2022 11:27am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://rumble.com/v1h1mi3-insane-new-details-about-mar-a-lago-raid.html?
Description is in the link
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August 24, 2022 11:50am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Men in Womans Prisons? Nailed it.
https://rumble.com/v1h3839-molecular-geneticist-stuns-on-gender-at-liberal-uc-berkeley-debate.html?
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August 24, 2022 11:58am
Jack5

With tribal affiliations of people increasingly included with names in the Woke media, some NZ folk might be unaware they’re also descended from fiery folk. That is, from the clans and families on both sides of the England-Scotland border – the Border Reivers.

A few Reiver surnames: Anderson, Armstrong, Bell, Dunne, Elliott, Fraser, Laidlaw, Noble, Oliver, Robson, Rutherford, Tait, Wilkinson …

You can check your surname here:

http://borderreiverheritage.com/surnames/
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August 24, 2022 11:59am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’d like to think my ancestors included some trouble-makers.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:54pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Read Steel Bonnets by George Macdonald Fraser who also wrote the Flashman books
  
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  August 24, 2022 1:30pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  My son has two of those names in his blood line,
  
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  August 24, 2022 1:31pm
Alan Wilkinson

Kings College sounds like hell on earth for some:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/former-kings-college-student-speaks-of-alleged-historic-sexual-abuse-at-school-principal-apologises-says-school-has-made-significant-strides/BU4PONH7TWWI4BXCCONMZYUGRM/
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August 24, 2022 12:12pm
- Ruawai
  
  If it was happening at Kings it was probably happening at most schools yet no reporting in the media, only makes headlines when it is Kings. Papakura High seems to have a bit of a bullying problem.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:31pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Never heard of anything like that when I was at school in Chch though later St Bedes turned out to have some nasty secrets.
    
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    August 24, 2022 12:48pm
    - MCōs
      
      I went to St Bedes
      During my time there as a boarder I wasn’t aware of of sexual abuse by any of the priests.
      However
      Fr Frank Durning taught there in my time.
      I remember him as an affable sort of chap, not untypical of his type.
      Those were different times and the boys were particularly vulnerable to authority figures.
      
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      August 24, 2022 4:32pm
- Ghost
  
  Had a teacher fired when I was in high school, claims of perving on girls in the shower. Everyone knew it was totally fabricated by the two girls who were failing his class.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:56pm
  - MCōs
    
    If everybody knew why was he fired?
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:34pm
    - Ghost
      
      Because we had a gutless principal that wanted the easy way out and ignored other students standing up for the teacher, including their own friends who were standing up for the teacher and students who were with the teacher at the times they claimed
      
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      August 24, 2022 5:38pm
Maggie Pie

And before anyone asks….

Yes, my partner was a fag-master during his time at Kings.
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August 24, 2022 12:15pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  sounds disgusting.
  
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  August 24, 2022 2:19pm
- alloytoo
  
  Cigarette distribution racket?
  
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  August 24, 2022 2:32pm
Ghost

Just story this young boys story

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/300647279/timaru-7yearolds-cancer-returns-with-a-vengeance

Lucas McLean has kept a jar of more than 1000 beads he collected for each traumatic or courageous step he took in his battle against leukaemia.

Now, two years after finishing treatment for T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukaemia, he has started collecting the beads again after the brave 7-year-old was told he had relapsed and was given a 20% chance of survival.

Give a little page

https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/love-and-support-for-lucas-and-his-beautiful?fbclid=IwAR08n-rNmcGZYAzcNlNO8yJ3GgJSLrrKzaAg84qGQ7UhLlG9rKMIHoLIlPg
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August 24, 2022 12:30pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Poor kid. A third form classmate died from it but we didn’t realize how serious it was for him at the time. No family deserves this.
  
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  August 24, 2022 12:51pm
  - Ghost
    
    Yeah, a friends brother died from it when I was a kid, awful thing. Bloody shame we haven’t cured these yet
    
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    August 24, 2022 1:18pm
mandk

This is a great story for those with an interest in long distance running: https://www.bbc.com/sport/62607571

It has shades of Alf Tupper “tough of the track”. Does anyone remember reading about him?
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August 24, 2022 12:33pm
Maggie Pie

Couldn’t see her landing a job as the ‘Weather-Presenter’ for FOX …..

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1562241182247587841

Just saying.
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August 24, 2022 1:13pm
- Mrs_Right
  
  Bottom line is, majority of NZ population can’t speak the language. So doing the weather in two languages is pointless and frustrating for people trying to figure out what the weather will be like. If people want to watch it the news in Maori there are other channels available.
  
  Showing few Maori sentences into the news and weather report will not make the rest of NZ population want to learn the language.
  
  As someone who is bilingual I find it ridiculous the way they read the news on TV1.
  
  I stopped watching the news long time ago.
  
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  August 24, 2022 1:43pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes, that’s just what I mean!
    Couldn’t see anyone in America wanting the weather-forecast in Te Reo. Her career opportunities would be quite limited.
    
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    August 24, 2022 3:34pm
  - Ghost
    
    You mean there are people that actually watch the news or even the weather?
    
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    August 24, 2022 4:28pm
Ghost

Hmm, no personal responsibility I guess

https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/300669330/absolutely-devastating-australian-woman-sues-psychiatrist-over-gender-transition
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August 24, 2022 1:44pm
- Bridgenag
  
  cabbages 7.99 in New World today……..f
  
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  August 24, 2022 7:01pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Who eats cabbages?
    
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    August 24, 2022 9:14pm
Benedict Yu

Why would new food retailers come to New Zealand if the Government is going to force them to supply their competitors? It means that if a food company achieves price reductions through innovation on the wholesale side of the business, its competitors will benefit by holding their hands out for supply.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/129667247/government-sets-out-further-action-on-supermarkets

Maybe I am missing something. Its just that David Clark always sounds like he knows what he is doing but in the past the opposite has resulted. 🙁
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August 24, 2022 2:18pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The most obvious result is that the retail duopoly will extend into wholesale leaving produce suppliers even more at its mercy. No wonder the duopoly is now ok with it.
  
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  August 24, 2022 2:41pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Incidentally, why are there no canned peas anywhere these days?
    
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    August 24, 2022 2:44pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      The pea growing regions of Chynah are still in Covid lockdown
      
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      August 24, 2022 3:36pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        And Hawkes Bay?
        
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        August 24, 2022 4:18pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        China.
        
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        August 24, 2022 6:28pm
    - greybeard
      
      Forget the tinned peas, the dehydrated ones are better.
      And cheap.
      
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      August 24, 2022 5:06pm
- Nickc2
  
  Hmmmm…. Govt induced price controls and grocery outlets. Now where have we heard of such things before? Oh, yeah, that’s right, it applies in Communist countries.
  Silly me, I should have known all along that’s what Cindy’s been trying to achieve.
  
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  August 24, 2022 7:20pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/129668243/auckland-council-has-achieved-a-lot-but-it-could-still-do-so-much-better

Well, look who has ridden to the rescue !
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August 24, 2022 2:19pm
Benedict Yu

Honestly, this just confirms my suspicion that there is a blurred boundary between ‘gender confusion’ and mental illness.

Woman wants to be a man. Sees psychiatrist. Psychiatrist says “OK you can have your breasts and uterus surgically removed.” Woman then changes mind and wants to be a woman again. Sues psychiatrist. 🙁

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/300669330/absolutely-devastating-australian-woman-sues-psychiatrist-over-gender-transition
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August 24, 2022 2:25pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I suspect there is a blurred boundary between mental health patients and their psychiatrists.
  
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  August 24, 2022 2:31pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Doctor: “Sir….
    
    Patient: “Ah no doctor, it’s actually Miss”
    
    Doctor: “Well Miss, I’m sorry say your results have come back and show you have Testicular Cancer”
    
    😀
    
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    August 24, 2022 3:25pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  As Graham Adams recently pointed out, The NZ MSM has been strangely silent on the Closure of the Tavistock Institute in the UK.
  
  The Tavistock Institute was the UK’s only gender-identity clinic for children and young people. Its role in prescribing puberty-blockers for young people has been condemned by the NHS.
  
  The silence from New Zealand’s mainstream media about the dramatic turn of events with Tavistock is every bit as strange given the number of positive stories on trans issues it has run as well.
  
  https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/don-t-ask-us-we-just-work-here
  
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  August 24, 2022 3:30pm
Maggie Pie

What’s with the appearance of the Member-for-Tijuana lately ?
He’s starting to look like an outcast from the Sinaloa Cartel 🙁
Let’s hope the new Speaker re-introduces proper parliamentary dress-standards.

And another thing….the Mexican seems to have an obsession with disabled people.

https://vimeo.com/742108058
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August 24, 2022 3:17pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sharma spills the beans on Mallard

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/473418/gaurav-sharma-hijacks-speaker-ceremony-to-accuse-trevor-mallard
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August 24, 2022 3:58pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  A couple of lines from Sharma and the rest of the article a Labour pile in against him. Such is NZ journalism.
  
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  August 24, 2022 4:22pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Sadly the Blokes at Bowls ….. think he is a renegade…..never thought they were lefties……
    
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    August 24, 2022 7:03pm
- Ghost
  
  Mallard in form calling him a liar, be careful mallard doesn’t assault you before leaving….
  
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  August 24, 2022 4:23pm
Maggie Pie

Can you believe this shit?

HDPA just interviewed the new Speaker and he told her…. “if a member asks him a question in Maori, he will respond in Maori and there will be no English translation for the public unless you change the chanel to get sub-titles”!

SHEESH!!
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August 24, 2022 4:51pm
- Ghost
  
  but what if a member speaks in jacindish? We need subtitles for the crap coming out her mouth
  
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  August 24, 2022 5:13pm
- MCōs
  
  That would be *channel*
  *Chanel* is a French luxury fashion house.
  
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  August 24, 2022 5:29pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I know how you knew that Cossie…..
    bet your missus is a fan of their No5 Eau-De-Parfum
    
    One of my faves as well 😀
    
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    August 24, 2022 5:39pm
Yvette

A spokesperson for Countdown supermarkets said Essity has been in contact with them about “the industrial action currently taking place at its manufacturing site in Kawerau”.
“We’re working closely with them and our other supply partners to ensure we have enough toilet paper supply for everyone to get what they need. At this stage, we don’t have any concerns about a possible shortage.”
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/24/nz-at-risk-of-toilet-paper-shortage-union-warns/

There will likely be panic buying in the next few days that will immediately see a self-fulfilling prophecy hit the fan – and Ardern’s Government will be out on its arse before the news goes international.
I would consider putting up with the in-convenience for a day or two, just to see it happen.
It could wipe them off the political face of the earth
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August 24, 2022 4:55pm
- greybeard
  
  Exactly! If the government doesn’t apPLY itself it will be ROLLed.
  Nothing left for them do do but paper over the cracks.
  Their reputation will have reached rock-bottom.
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:23pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300669351/finland-prime-ministers-friends-posed-topless-at-her-desk

So what?
One of Auckland’s ex-mayors screwed some staffer ON his desk.
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August 24, 2022 4:55pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Thx for the reminder 😛
  
  https://youtu.be/fP0xyYfMQ0k
  
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  August 24, 2022 5:04pm
- Ghost
  
  Only one?
  
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  August 24, 2022 5:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Lucky. I have no idea what she saw in that dick!
  
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  August 24, 2022 5:25pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    wasn’t looking at it
    
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    August 24, 2022 7:05pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      This story only has legs because she has legs.
      Lucky Finland.
      We only get coverage in Horse and Hound!
      
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      August 24, 2022 7:58pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  And didn’t one of our political appointees get in trouble for screwing someone on the embassy dining table?
  
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  August 24, 2022 6:37pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Or was that a Politician screwing someone on a Swiss Ball?
    Without consent.
    Groomers gonna groom huh.
    
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    August 24, 2022 7:57pm
  - Ghost
    
    Or a politician that leaves the country after a teenager comes forward about sexual assault
    
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    August 24, 2022 8:34pm
MCōs

Chris Luxon won’t confirm/deny he’s prepared to work with Bishop Brian’s party; or any other party for that matter.
Image Bishop Brian deciding who should be the next government. Winston was a difficult proposition, but having that fool in a position to veto one’s agenda would concentrate the mind.
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August 24, 2022 5:14pm
- kowtow
  
  The Holy Highness Apostolic Bishop hasn’t a shit show of getting into the House .
  
  Not even worth wasting any time discussing same .
  
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  August 24, 2022 5:32pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Has Jacinda said whether she could work with Tamaki?
  
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  August 24, 2022 6:06pm
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t know that anyone has asked
    
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    August 24, 2022 10:49pm
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      I imagine Clint Smith et al want it kept that way…
      
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      August 25, 2022 6:36am
- Benedict Yu
  
  IMO we have still not seen the worst of what MMP can unleash on the nation.
  
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  August 24, 2022 6:31pm
igm

Anything is better than the pantomime of unemployable leeches we currently furnish with our taxes . . . they are disgraceful.
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August 24, 2022 5:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Karel Šroubek resurfaces

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/473423/karel-sroubek-suffers-setback-in-appeal-against-deportation
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August 24, 2022 6:27pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  All part of the ongoing charade….bet you a buck to a pinch-of-goat-poop he finally gets to stay on ‘humanatarian grounds’
  
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  August 24, 2022 6:35pm
  - grumpy
    
    Someone’s grass must be getting pretty long…..
    
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    August 24, 2022 7:46pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Kick the useless waster out
  
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  August 24, 2022 8:04pm
Captain Mainwaring

He’ll stay. He has connections in high places (until late 2023).
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