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I must say I feel sorry for Sam Uffindell whose bad behaviour when age 16 threatens his political career. If everyone that was a bully as a teenager could not serve in public office, I would think we would lose a lot of potentially very good government ministers. Now we see further allegations about university and him going on a rampage against a female flatmate. It sounds like he behaved badly when he was a university student though it may be that the allegation is made in bad faith? One can look overseas to see the allegations made against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh to realise the lengths political opponents will go to besmirch a person’s character.

However even if the allegation is true, are there not people who behave badly at university but then grow up to be morally sound citizens? Some of us had a religious conversion in our mid 20s and our character is markedly different from the way we were prior.
But that is where religion is important. The dominant religion of the moment, I will call Pagan Wokery, admits to no forgiveness. They will reach back to your teenage years and if they find something wrong then that is it. You are forever marked as a bad person. This comes from communism where they have struggle sessions and if anyone in your family did anything wrong back to 3 generations you can be in big trouble with the authorities.

However Pagan Wokery only applies when the person is on the centre-right side of the political spectrum. People on the left are almost always forgiven for their past sins. People on the right are held to a higher standard by the media and the ruling elite. Darren Hughes is one who comes to mind. After allegations of sexual nature when he was an MP he had to resign. However there was no digging up of his past, there was no, has this happened before investigation by the media. There was no thought of investigating the Labour Party candidate selection processes. Indeed there was nothing like the wall-to-wall media coverage that Mr Uffindell is experiencing.

But this is where our religion is important. In Christianity there is forgiveness. What a person did at age 16 is generally not deemed relevant, certainly bullying as a teenager would not be grounds for resignation. Even at university people would normally be forgiven for quite a wide range of wrongdoings. It is what they do once they leave university, once they assume the responsibilities of adulthood and particularly when serving as an MP that are important.

Christ came to forgive sinners. Forgiveness is a foundational belief of our society. That is why we don’t have endless tribal wars and family feuds that go on for centuries. Forgiveness gives a person a second chance and brings reconciliation between families and friends and even enemies.

Finally I would want to say this. Think about yourself and your own behaviour at high school and university. Think about your worst moments during those times. Can you honestly say you would welcome such a scrutiny? As someone far greater than me once said, “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”.
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August 11, 2022 8:02am
- iMP
  
  We now have public evidence labour and the media knew about all this as early as 9 June. So, they waited…..
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:24am
  - Justitia
    
    This episode has Grunter’s fingerprints all over it. National need to wake up smart. Take no prisoners.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:42am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Exactly, the smug arrogance he was showing in the house yesterday said it all, he looked sick when it came out that Uffindell was a forensic bank fraud staffer, he knows he will be found out with his corruption. He’s a chip off the old block
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:32pm
  - kowtow
    
    Last night Barry Soper on HDPA said this has all the looks of a deliberately timed hit job.
    He intimated he knew who it might be and implied he’d have more on that later .
    
    I hope so .
    
    This is Dirty Politics and the Media Pardy are more than happy to play.
    
    The cartoons of both the Herald and stuff feature this.
    
    There are now articles making this out to be about Luxon . Thje Media are really giving this legs and again perpetuating the narrative of the Nasty Nats .
    
    That’s fine but there’sno balance . Plenty of skeletons in the Labour cupboard .
    
    Talking of the Media . There’s a donatiins trial on at the moment , but till yesterday you’d be forgiven for not knowing .
    
    Last week two prominent current cabinet ministers were in the box giving evidence , hardly a peep.
    
    Yesterday following Simon Bridges in the box , it led the radio news , was covered early on the tv news and is also in today’s herald .
    
    Nats , wake up, the Media Pardy hate you and will do their utmost to keep a left regime in power.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:46am
    - yossarian
      
      I’ve said it before. The Public Interest Journalism Fund is actually a loan.
      
      National need to let the media agencies who have received funds that these loans will be recalled once they get into power if they continue to show such bias.
      
      …or perhaps they have so the MSM is doubled down to keep them out
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:40am
      - kowtow
        
        Public Interest Judas Fund.
        
        The so called fourth estate have betrayed their , what they consider , sacred duty , to hold power to account.
        
        They are the biggest hypocrites in this latest staged performance.
        
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        August 11, 2022 11:19am
    - Jimbob
      
      Old news, they have always hated the Nats, right back to Muldoon.
      
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      August 11, 2022 10:06am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Yeah, Chief Labour propagandists Clint Smith and Neale Jones are nuts deep in this, along with a couple of Labour MPS – twitter trail sees them connected to it since first public reports came to light during by-election. Labour hit job through their media cats-paws at Stuff.
      
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      August 11, 2022 10:14am
    - I remember when
      
      kowtow:
      Notice the narrowly defined definition of ‘bullying’.
      No mention of Polynesian physical intimidation, be it male or female.
      But most especially no mention of that much more female method of bullying – exclusion.
      Anyone with daughters will be aware of the level of the level of distress it can cause with girls.
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:36am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I bet he gets muzzled
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:33pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    So you expect a fair fight in politics, oh dear. Luxon happily ran aground by not dealing with candidate problems that have been rife for years. National’s “old boy” network has imploded, again.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:51am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Brian’s head has imploded, again.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:00am
    - RoboRob
      
      Governments should NOT own media outlets (RNZ and TVNZ). This government has bought NZ media and use them as attack dogs.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:01am
      - cmm
        
        Should not, but in reality they do. National has to work with what is real, not some ideal “should”.
        
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        August 11, 2022 10:11am
      - RoboRob
        
        @cmm
        
        What I am saying is that when the Nats get back into power, divesting in media organisations should be a priority.
        
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        August 11, 2022 12:05pm
    - cmm
      
      I mostly agree with you Brian.
      
      There is no fair fight and there is no fairness in the MSM. It is an uneven playingfield with bent refs.
      
      But that’s the only game on the field. If National’s strategy depends on a balanced media they’re screwed.
      
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      August 11, 2022 10:09am
      - artemisia
        
        There will be a change of government at some point. It could take a sink or swim view, or divert funding to get decent balance. ThePlatform could do well.
        
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        August 11, 2022 12:56pm
    - Michael Johnston
      
      You’re not really one who ought to comment on the consequences of past misdeeds, are you now Brian?
      
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      August 11, 2022 10:55am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Why shouldn’t he?
        
        He, more than many of us, has had to shape a life consequent of his past history.
        
        I know the presence of Brian on this blog pisses some people off, but I don’t come on this blog to read the views of folks who always think like me or mirrored my path through life.
        
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        August 11, 2022 11:25am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Brian do you want to talk about Louisa Wall then. Who was the nasty party there, and it was right at the top of the Labour Party too.
      
      Cliche about glass houses and stones springs to mind!
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:26am
  - nathie
    
    Labour’s Dirty Politics …. the difference this time is the MSM are in lock-step with the Beehive.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:54am
  - Yvette
    
    iMp – We now have public evidence labour and the media knew about all this as early as 9 June. So, they waited
    
    • For the media to have had this matter and not randomly spill it but wait for some instruction to “drop it now”, would indicate a compliance to Ardern’s Labour Government that demands a lot to conceive, given their disastrous control of anything else they touch.
    • It would also suggest that National has absolutely no friends in the media that would give them a ‘heads up’.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:01am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Barry Soper on Newstalk ZB yesterday afternoon.
    
    “This is a Political Hit Job. Make no mistake about it, but why has it just emerged now, just within a day or two of Uffindell being sworn into Parliament?
    
    It is a hit job. I’ve a good idea where it came from, but I’ll keep that to myself at the moment”
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:06am
    - artemisia
      
      20 years ago there were far fewer easily outraged and upset. Plenty of men, and some women, have stupid episodes in their past. Women maybe more the mean girls, so nasty.
      
      Possible that those who were stupid / mean back in the day might rather like being represented by someone like themselves, not the woke snowflakes needing safe places with puppies and hot chocolate.
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:35pm
  - Nickc2
    
    The MSM can’t deny conspiring with the Labour Party/Govt eh? deceitful lying duplicitous bastards.
    I wonder if the responsible MSM entity earned a bonus for this saga?
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:35am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      The MSM are the same bullies that they call out others for. They are the same MSM who wring their hands and have campaigns about mental health and then set out to knowingly and deliberately cause mental health problems. I say the MSM are a vile venal feral bunch of arseholes.
      May they live in interesting times.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:54am
  - Bullion
    
    Labour didn’t know and the media were doing their job in making sure the claims are valid before taking them to Uffindell before publishing.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:44am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Bollocks! Labour MP’s Marja Lubeck and Jan Tinetti, Labour’s candidate in the Tauranga by-election were made aware via social media on 9th June – https://twitter.com/sootytweet/status/1557237629942665217
      
      Which begs the question; who is “Hawaiian Reg”?
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:10am
      - Bullion
        
        https://twitter.com/kirsty_johnston/status/1557296808271183872
        
        The level of conspiracy around how media works is actually mind blowing. People think we “held” the Uffindell story for poll day. Like, I’m not a political reporter I have no idea when poll day is! I’ve never worked in the gallery I have barely any idea what happens there lol
        
        The truth is just that I got a very vague tip the day after the by-election. Like, very vague. It took me ages to stack it up and then the victim had to decide to talk and then I had to fact check it and the literal second we had enough info we put it to Uffindell and published
        
        And doesn’t make sense for Labour to wait until he is elected to bring this to light, this would have been useful in an election they would have used it then.
        
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        August 11, 2022 12:11pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It was Lubeck who tweeted and tagged in Tinneti, Lubeck clearly knew before, and the 9th was before the by-election
        
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        August 11, 2022 2:47pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Labour didn’t know? Bull Shit! They’re paying the MSM for this kind of crap!!!
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:22am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, saved it up rill it was absolutely required, Ardern said they did not know and were shocked, there appears to be nothing in the student flat smear, I would be checking young Labour for this woman’s past, I would be checking her father who poked his nose in, interesting to know if he is involved with Labour or the rotten unions, this may very well shaft Labour more
    
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    August 11, 2022 12:26pm
- Ross Campbell
  
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  Sorry I don’t think religion or Christianity is any benchmark to use if we are going to talk about forgiveness and redemption.
  In many cases the only forgiveness given by the church which is supposed to be the ultimate disciple of these principles was to protect perpetrators of evil and condemn victims with callous disregard.
  Religion and Christianity in particular is no panacea for societies problems.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:42am
  - Lance
    
    In the words of Luke Skywalker
    “Everything you just said was wrong”
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:14am
- RoboRob
  
  Bot even sure that what he did at University was even ‘bad’. I believe people regulary get upset / annoyed with flat mates, people that are angry often yell and throw insults.
  
  A male only flat that is messy OMG. Womans undies shown as a trophy WHAT, never in history has that happened.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:54am
  - David Garrett
    
    Robo: I take ur point, but apparently Ufindell smashed the place up…that’s a country mile from “a male only messy flat”
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:57am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      If true, a smashed-up flat is subjective.
      Did he break some of the beer crate coffee tables during a tantrum?
      
      The pics of the flat in the Herald just crack me up.
      The guy probably was an arsehole, but I have met people who smacked me in my face, and also people that I was very unpleasant to during High School, and we are all adults now and moved past such things.
      I don’t think past behaviour, and especially at that age, needs to be held up to this degree of scrutiny.
      
      It is not a great look, and the Nat selection process has issues, but it is certainly a bit of media glee in smashing the opposition again.
      A distraction from the real issue of the day:
      Things that are top of mind of NZers today: Housing, Crime, Cost of living, Co-governance, oh – and a wild young man at Uni in 2004 or whatever.
      
      He was expelled for the first thing – and we should ignore that, but the second one is more about optics (if it is literally true). I doubt he would have been charged with any crime even if the police were called 20 years ago.
      The scummy flat, and if this was the environment the female flatmate was living within, well -she chose to move into. Surprise surprise, she felt uncomfortable when drunk males started going feral.
      It is not like Kainga Ora tenants after 20 years of peace having a gang member move next door, and start making their lives a Hell. She moved into what was clearly a party flat.
      It could have ended up a whole lot worse than doors being thumped, and being called ‘fatty’.
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:36am
      - James Stephenson
        
        When did flats being shitty dumps become the fault of the tenant? I’m pretty sure up until maybe yesterday, it was clearly the fault of the landlord for being a money-grubbing (national voting) weasel.
        
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        August 11, 2022 2:51pm
    - rouppe
      
      If you were in a male only flat (that somehow had a female in it that fled through her bedroom window) and one person smashed it up, wouldn’t the rest of the flat chuck them out?
      
      If they didn’t chuck him out, they either condoned or participated, surely
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:52am
  - Sacha
    
    When I was flatting – admittedly more than 20 years ago, it was either all girls, or all boys. We knew the risks of dealing with lads full of testosterone, and avoided the hassles.
    Girls, if you are into ‘mixed’ flatting, you are providing an environment which leads to unwanted drunken and sexual advances so don’t complain when you have to deal with them.
    And don’t pile in 20 years after the event.
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:08am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I was in girl’s hostel in my first year at Massey Uni and in female flats for the following two years.
      
      They are the only times in my life I have lived in an “all female environment”.
      
      I’ve never felt any desire to repeat the experience.
      
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      August 11, 2022 1:18pm
    - Hebe123
      
      Seriously?
      I flatted with both girls and guys for nearly 20 years. Yes boys are less clean. But often better flat mates as they don’t play catty games or argue over the bills.
      
      I certainly did not condone the behaviour you speak of and it never happened. Nor to any of my girl friends who also flatted with both guys and girls.
      
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      August 11, 2022 8:37pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Why would the woman take pics of undies on the wall and still have the pics after all this time? Can’t quite remember, but not sure phones even had cameras way back then, he has had a hitjob put on him, and Dew will find this out, I hope they get a hold of his mates and someone backs him up completely
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:48pm
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Doesn’t forgiveness require someone to own up, right the wrong, make amends and be remorseful? Or can some feeble gestures in that direction just before seeking public office make it all good?
  I think it is entirely appropriate that those seeking the public’s trust let the public know the bad things about them as well as relating generic platitudes about their own virtues.
  From the accounts so far, this rooster’s bullying (to put it at its most mild construction) is well outside the norm most would regard reasonable from a young man. I would venture to suggest that his personality has not changed fundamentally since, but the onus would be on him to demonstrate that it has.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:58am
  - RoboRob
    
    How would one ‘demonstrate’ they are no longer a bully?
    
    If JA was to have done something wrong and appologised would that appology not count either becuase she is (and has always been) active in politics?
    
    Would trying to give back to the community through government office not be the traditional way to give back?
    
    You assume he is still a bully now, 20yrs later, but regularly support politics biggest bully Trevor Mallard.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:05am
    - surfing
      
      While the bullying is not a great look, his non disclosure and minimalisation of the truth irritates me more.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:56am
  - Yabster
    
    you didn’t seem to have the same concerns for Mallards bullying- double standard there milky -funny that.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:10am
    - herb1
      
      Double standards Milky?
      Your assuming he has any standards?
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:39am
    - surfing
      
      Yes, Trevor Mallard is a nasty piece of work and Jacinda did nothing to sort him out. That makes her the bullies accomplice.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:57am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    How would you counsel Trevor Mallard mike?
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:29am
  - CPB
    
    No, forgiveness is given freely. Whether the person who harmed you shows contrition or not may well be a factor in your willingness to forgive, but it is not required.
    
    It might suit you politically to believe Uffindell’s character hasn’t changed in 20 years, but the facts don’t support you. The media have poured enormous resource into investigating him, and to date have come up with nothing since he was 19 years old. I have encountered plenty of young guys like Uffindell during my time on this planet and the reality is that even the most monumental of dickheads who I despised at high school and uni have since matured. If they were to seek political office for Labour or the Greens today, I wouldn’t be out trying to assassinate their character. But then I’m not a lefty…
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:31am
    - cmm
      
      Quite. Most people change with time.
      
      I was quite capable of violence when I was a kid, but have mellowed significantly.
      
      I haven’t punched anyone since I was 19 or 20 and haven’t shot anyone since I was 29.
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:59am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    I would venture to suggest that you would not see any positive change purely because you disagree with his politics.
    
    He was held accountable at the time AND he did actually apologise. You don’t accept the apology as valid because you ascribe an ulterior motive to it but that’s on you, not him.
    
    Until there’s actual evidence regarding the Otago dickishness it’s irrelevant.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:32am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Doesn’t forgiveness require someone to own up, right the wrong, make amends and be remorseful?
    
    Forgiveness comes from the one who was wronged.
    
    Our Justice system may impose conditions on perpetrators – such as making amends and showing that they are remorseful, but victims don’t have to buy into forgiveness.
    
    Some folks are able to forgive others, even when there is no contrition from the offenders.
    
    Some folks will never forgive others for their foul deeds.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:59am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      True. I was responding more to Scott’s weird idea that his religion granted forgiveness automatically.
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:55am
      - Clownworld
        
        Where did the idea of forgiveness come from?
        
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        August 11, 2022 10:19pm
- Happy1
  
  Uffindell should have been told by the pre selection committee, which included both Goodfellow and Wood, either defuse this bomb ( by putting it in the public arena) or your nomination won’t go forward. It is unbelievable that they waved him on knowing that there was a guy out there with the ability and motive to revenge nut kick Sam any time he chose. Boy, has he had a good week seeing Sam, his assailant, drop like a stone. Uffindell would have been lined up and asked “ is there anything more, declare it now”. He swore that there was nothing else. When more came out ( he probably thought that he could deny his way out) he lost Luxon and will now go. That’s a pity as he has much to contribute and if it had been managed properly he would have made N.Z.a better place.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:27am
  - surfing
    
    Yes, the cover-up is worse than the sin.
    
    The fact he was overseas for a long time clouds things too… we really don’t know this guy.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:59am
- Chris2
  
  I never took a shine to Uffindell when he was selected. But what confuses me is why the allegations now being made against him, are only now being made, weeks after he has been elected?
  
  Why did the beaten-up school boy (now an adult) not go to the media DURING the by-election campaign? I think it would be helpful to have an answer on this.
  
  Similarly, when did the media first get wind of this allegation? Did they report it immediatly, or intentionally sit on it to suit their own agenda?
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:05am
  - Happy1
    
    The trigger for the victim was Uffindell’s hypocrisy ridden maiden speech. He realised that he had been played. Time to get even.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:19am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      What hypocrisy? He was held accountable for his actions and turned his life around (eventually).
      Isn’t that what he called for in his maiden speech?
      
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      August 11, 2022 10:57am
    - David Garrett
      
      Happy: that sounds like a fairly accurate call…not that I have any inside knowledge
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:01am
    - kowtow
      
      Nope , the speech was made long after the 9 June tweet.
      
      Labour have been keeping their powder dry till an optimum time to fire , and that was after the succesful Nat conference .
      
      Both tony stu and maggie p have posted evidence of this very early today.
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:33pm
- surfing
  
  Boohoo cry me a river, it is not the end of the world for Uffindell. Karma got him, he can return to banking and be happy.
  
  He has been forgiven by his victim, but now the bully becomes the bullied. Life is unfair sometimes. So what?
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:31am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Actually, I believe it’s the bullied became the bully became the bullied.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:58am
  - Sacha
    
    Tom Brown’s Schooldays, anyone?
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:14am
  - Lance
    
    Soooooooooooooooo you will decry Labour’s desire to rehabilitate gang members?
    They should be forever shunned and marginalized…. because, you know, Karma
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:20am
    - cmm
      
      No, those gang members are given numerous opportunities to rehabilitate and persevere with their criminal ways.
      
      The average first time prisoner has well over 40 convictions. They are not locked up for 20 years for littering.
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:03pm
  - kowtow
    
    Yer but this is more than about Uf .
    
    The story here is the story .
    
    labour and the Media have colluded to derail a very succesful Nat conference ,gthereby once again controlling the “news cycle”
    
    We’re being played.
    
    btw
    
    There’s the second of political donations trials on at the moment , there’s been practically no coverage of the current one , until yesterday when Bridges was in the box .
    
    And no matter what the outcome of this trial is , there are bigger issues around our two main partys’ funding than some nasty behaviour by an MP 20 odd years ago .
    
    But what are the Media Pardy obsessing over.
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:29am
- Romney
  
  Having reflected on my years at boarding school, I recall mostly disliking it; a dirty, violent place, but I never hurt anyone and managed to avoid being expelled. The worst bit was the bullies.
  
  And while Christian forgiveness is fine and good I guess, there is a place for the Eastern concept of Karma too.
  
  Finally, I gave up on National years ago, but is this the moment they take the blinkers off and wake up to the nature of what they are up against? Also, is it too late to get rid of Luxon? He’s just not up to it.
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:16pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Did you see the pics of his student flat? He standing here looking relaxed and no sign of anger, the room looks a little untidy, and far better than most, bra and knickers hanging on the hallway, well I bet more has been seen than that, no word that Uffindell put them there, Labour said they never knew, but there is twitter posts from Luberjec tagging in Tinneti on the 9th of June with a tweet asking what Was Uffindell kicked out of Kings for, and a mention of beatings, can’t remember the date but it was probably before the by election
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:22pm
Ehlana

Happy Mountain Day

It’s a Japanese holiday to encourage us to get to know and appreciate our mountains.

So say gidday to a high hill today.
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August 11, 2022 8:10am
- iMP
  
  What, like Erebus?
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:16am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Peak humour?
    I laughed, although some might find your glee at the deaths of 250 people 40 years ago a little distasteful.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:51am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      How do you interpret iMP’s comment as ‘glee’ and the deaths at Erebus?
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Please forgive me. He must simply have had Mt Erebus pop into his mind when the thought about a high hill.
        
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        August 11, 2022 11:58am
- Colville
  
  I have just been wandering around a hill near the Kawekas…
  I am that cold my balls are hiding behind my ears….
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:05am
Philview

I am just wondering about the media running stories about the Sam Uffindell’s student flat messiness. Have the media sunk so low that they are actually showing themselves to be evil. Evil is a strong word but they are trying to destroy a man by every means possible.
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August 11, 2022 8:15am
- ClanMcleod
  
  It has reached the point that it can genuinely be called malicious which is one stage short of evil. I’ll refrain from calling it evil momentarily, though watching the actions of NZ mainstream media over the last 3 years, it is where they are headed.
  The societal implosion driven by Ardern and her government has been one of the most frustrating and concerning actions of my life. As leader of this cabal, she must be held fully responsible.
  
  I am genuinely concerned for the future for our children and grandchildren. These ideologues need to be gone asap and never allowed near the levers of power until they sort their shit out.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:31am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda has not been informed that she is useless yet…..
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:51am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes it is evil. How about this? I acquire some photos of the interiors of some homes of Kàinga Ora tenants. They will make that Dunedin flat look fine. And the Herald will publish the photos, screaming for the people to be evicted and the now vacant homes to be allocated to a young mum and her kids living in a car.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:32am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    I agree Benedict. I think I was trying to be overly kind, but there is nothing kind about Ardern and her government.
    Their pursuit of their ideological insanity is at any cost. They clearly have no thought for the horrendous damage and mayhem they are actively causing. It is narcissistic and it is pure evil. It must be expunged.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:47am
  - RoboRob
    
    I think you would find a number of politians, probably the majority, who had messy student flats and bragged about sexual encounters.
    
    Labour are being very careful not to throw stones, leaving that to the payed for media.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:08am
    - rouppe
      
      Be interesting to get some stories of Patrick gower when he was at uni. Most people I’ve spoken to say he was a prick from high school as well…
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:04pm
      - Bridgenag
        
        and he looks like one
        
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        August 11, 2022 6:36pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    I’ve seen my kids bedrooms far messier than the Herald photo. A nothing story. There are bra fences and panty fences around the country and they get excited about 4 hooks. I think a lot of people will be turned off by that coverage and start to feel sorry for him.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:08am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Your partner might come under some pressure at work if you suddenly ‘acquire’ photos of the interior of state tenancies.
    
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    August 11, 2022 12:00pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I would not do so for that reason. I think you are aware of that.
      
      However the descriptions I have of the state of these homes are vivid and I believe her.
      
      As usual, you are taking the debate off on an unhelpful tangent.
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:54pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You might be labouring under the misapprehension that Kiwiblog comments threads are somehow meant to he helpful.
        
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        August 11, 2022 2:19pm
- Scooter
  
  Maybe National can grow some balls and say he can stay, just the same as Mallard has, Labour then has no come back.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:50am
  - kowtow
    
    Labour might have no come back .
    
    But their agents , who are now their paid agents ,the Media will always have plenty to say about , and note this is a very strong theme in this thing ” priveliged white male is just doing what comes naturally”
    
    Whereas “working class” lads are from a culture where you must fight , be aggressive , assertive to get ahead . ( of course only when such characteristics suit the narrative)
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:46am
- kowtow
  
  Evil?
  
  The Media Pardy created the hysteria around Batflu that scared not just the populace but the politicians into draconianism .
  Here they’re still pushing the narrative .
  
  Yes , evil.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:52am
- nathie
  
  Whilst not trying to play down the younger Sam Uffindell’s behavior … it was symptomatic of the culture of both Kings College (hazing) and Otago University (parties and drinking).
  
  On Kerre’s ZB morning show yesterday a former KC student (who knew SU) said that the culture of the place was one of occasional or regular violence depending on which hostel the students lived in and rejected the former Rector/Principal’s playing down of this violence. So if that’s the culture of the place, at the time, is it any wonder SU was caught up in it? Presumably he was clobbered when he was a third former?
  
  As for Otago University it is celebrated as the place to go to to drink and party excessively. Again is it any wonder SU was caught up in it?
  
  Let’s not also forget a certain partner of the PM was also caught up in those shenanigans at Otago and even highlighted the “seedy” bits on film for television at the time …
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:06am
  - herb1
    
    Yes I recall going to Otago UNi on a tour of residences for our daughter. The one where Gaylord went to gleefully mentioned him being a resident and mentioned some of the stuff he got up to. All of which was more annoying than a messy flat
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:46am
  - Jack5
    
    Otago University students were and are renown for including a high proportion of pissheads who burn furniture in streets.
    
    Many northern students surely swarm south to Dunedin for a wild social time.
    
    This is from the Otago Daily Times:
    
    … Mr Uffindell’s Dundas St flat the following year was visited by a Dunedin City Council health inspector three times while he and his flatmates competed for the title of Dunedin’s filthiest flat in a competition organised by a now defunct website.
    
    The flat’s underwear display as shown in media photos would surely have scared vulnerable girls away.
    
    The filth, too, would have been typical of the flats of scores of student oafs.
    
    If Uffindell is to be targeted, am I right in having vague recollections of reading of a young man in distress being pursued down a Wellington street by a well known Leftist? Did the media feature this?
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:37am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      The Best Flat and Worst Flat awards are still a thing in Dunedin. Among the judges for the 2022 edition were Labour’s Dunedin-based List MP Rachel Brooking, and the Green Party-aligned Mayor of Dunedin, Aaron Hawkins. Make of that what you will!
      
      https://twitter.com/Fendaltonian/status/1557493650086854657
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:06am
- surfing
  
  If one thing comes out of this, I hope that schools use this as an example to teach kids that being a bully might come right back at them later in life.
  
  And schools such as King’s should be shamed that they claim to have control over bullying when the opposite is true.
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:03am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    The school, like many institutions, appeared to treat a serious criminal assault as a disciplinary matter only. Schools have been caught out time and time again trying (and probably mostly succeeding) in placing their reputation above the law.
    See, for some of the most horrible examples, the recent Stuff series on the criminal gang masquerading as the Marist Brothers.
    
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    August 11, 2022 12:03pm
- Lance
  
  A few months back my opinion of most of the MSM decayed to the point that I genuinely think they are scum.
  
  I feel a little bit sad that it has come to this, but it is their sacred duty to protect society from those in power, informing us all of the facts without fear or favour.
  Alas they have degenerated into sock puppets with distain for any truth that does not support the leftist agenda.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:27am
Warren

It looks and appears Nationals Leader Chris Luxon has showed Labour and their Leader Jacinda Ardern how to deal with bullies that have proven records like unfortunately the Tauranga MP Sam Uffindell.
How long have we been waiting for the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to discipline the Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard and how much has it cost the taxpayer for his bulling and slander of a former staff member of Parliament s workforce.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/
It’s alright for Labour to call out others but there Leader and Prime Minister have ignored the Speaker for his bulling and ignorance with a
top Diplomatic Appointment .
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August 11, 2022 8:15am
- Tom Hunter
  
  If you think National will get any kudos for playing the whole “We’re better than that” game then you have not been watching the Left’s role in society over the last decade.
  
  That high-minded approach doesn’t work anymore.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:43am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  “Whataboutism” much?
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    No Brian, try this.
    
    The G7 “once again called on Russia to “withdraw its troops from within Ukraine’s internationally recognized borders and respect Ukraine’s territory and sovereignty.”
    
    How about the US withdraw from the 1/3 of Syria which they illegally occupy, which happens to be where the main oilfields are, and of which Trump, the most honest President ever said quite clearly:
    
    “I like the oil, we’re keeping the oil.”
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/i-like-oil-were-keeping-the-oil-trump-on-american-forces-in-syria/2019/11/01/772f0047-91ee-42de-af63-172c3fe6fb05_video.html
    
    That isn’t “whataboutism”, it’s pointing out rank hypocrisy and simply saying sort your own mess out before criticising others.
    Throwing the “whataboutism” out as some form of weak retort is as bad as Ardern warning about the dangers of “misinformation” while she is responsible for most of it. It’s a piss poor attempt to win a debate point. Give it up.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:00am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    What?
    Whataboutism would be covering for Uffindel by pointing to Mallard.
    Warren was talking about the leader’s actions, pointing out that Luxon has handled Uffindel’s actions far better than Jacinda (and Labour in general) handled Mallard’s many missteps.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:38am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    I’m not so sure that Brian McDonald is in the best position to lecture others about violence.
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:17am
- kowtow
  
  Actually he hasn’t.
  
  By ducking behind a QC enquiry , i believe he’s allowed the story to run.
  
  As I said yesterday , after the uni bully story , Lux should have met him and at the endof the meeting announced ” We’ve had a chat , he’s told me he’s decided the right thing to do is resign at the GE ,in the meantime he’ll work hard for the people of Tauranga”
  
  That’s what a politically savvy leader would do .
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:56am
  - pdm
    
    I agree with you Kowtow.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

Why doesn’t Labour want independent oversight of Children in care?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/government-forging-ahead-with-oranga-tamariki-changes-in-face-of-fierce-opposition.html

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2208/S00104/act-attempts-to-fix-broken-oranga-tamariki-bill.htm
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August 11, 2022 8:15am
iMP

Welcome to the retro double-jeopardy ( sacked from kings sacked from parliament) class warfare world of envy and jealousy that has become Nu Zulund.

Thanks Labour and the MSM.

“And in other stories today… several local governments have zero candidates putting themselves forward for public office…”
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August 11, 2022 8:16am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Let’s open the door for Brian Tamaki’s friends to enter local politics 😃
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:36am
- Sacha
  
  – which will abandon local government to the unelected Maori members of councils around the country.
  Who else would want to be involved with the mess that 3 waters will visit upon us all?
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:28am
- kowtow
  
  You raise an excellent issue .
  
  The Establishment ( media and pollies ) have come up with a formula whereby they claim that pollies’ private lives are off limits , but actually what they really mean is who is banging who is off limits .
  
  In my humble opinion that is hypocritical cant .
  
  If someone’s married and banging all and sundry then there’s definitely a character / trust / responsibility issue at play , and if Uf ‘s youthful , but undoubtedly nasty misdemenours are fair game then…………
  
  I wonder if the wall of silence is because so many reporters fuck pollies ………for copy .
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:35am
Maggie Pie

So, appears Labor have been sitting on the Sam Infidel revelations for over 2 months…..talk about a well-timed hit job 🙁

This in response to a tweet from the Dutch-Air-Hostess….

https://twitter.com/Reg27821192/status/1534830991365513217
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August 11, 2022 8:16am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  There’s no way Labour would stoop to anything dirty and grubby.
  
  I’m confident that Jan Tinetti’s not responding to any requests for comment because she’s busy washing her hair
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:35am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    She’s really busy sorting out the #FireCrisis – oh, wait; that’s still going on as well.
    
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    August 11, 2022 1:51pm
- MCōs
  
  National knew about SU’s expulsion at the time of candidate selection, but *ahem* an emotional junior staffer didn’t tell the big cheese.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:36am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    I made the comment yesterday that Thomas Coughlan at Stuff must have known all about it to be bothered writing a hit piece on Uffindell’s maiden speech – and it’s looking more likely that yes he did
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:39am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Coughland is from the Herald. But Henry Cooke from Stuff was alerted to Uffindell some time in June.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:28am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Quite clear now the media were just waiting for the “pile in” signal. How stupid are the Nats?
      
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      August 11, 2022 10:13am
- Frank the tank
  
  David Cormack, Hamish Keith, Neale Jones and Clint Smith on one Twatter stream…….
  
  I’d rather get hit on the head with a bed post in a Kings Dormitory…..
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:37am
  - Opie
    
    [Deleted – OTT personal abuse. mod.]
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:00am
    - Opie
      
      Wow.
      
      You can’t call someone a bedwetting sniveling socialist any more?
      
      Or was it that he got bullied?
      
      Much worse is being said on here by others
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:24pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Everything seems just so… ‘coordinated’.
    
    Is it ‘crisis management’ if all Capital PR’s senior management have to appear on Twitter all at once?
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:13am
Tony Stuart

Barry Soper on Newstalk ZB on the Uffindell mess:

“It is a hit-job. I’ve got a good idea where it came from, but I’ll keep it to myself for now.”

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/

You can find Soper’s interview with HDPA at the link above, in the Weds 16:45pm segment. Interestingly, it looks like two Labour MP’s were tipped off about Uffindell’s departure from Kings on 9th June, well before the closing of the Tauranga by-election campaign, as were members of the media. I suspect that there’s still water to flow under the bridge here.

Interestingly, journalist Jo Moir tweeted yesterday “Has anyone tried turning National off and back on again”. My response to Ms Moir was “Has anyone tried turning the media off, and leaving them off?”

I suspect that neither the media nor the Labour Party is going to come out of this smelling of roses, and with their story this morning about the state of Uffindell’s Dunedin student flat, the Herald has again proved that they are not only tabloid in size!
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August 11, 2022 8:16am
- Simon
  
  Some perspective.
  
  When Ardern covered for a rapist.
  
  “What they’re saying is, the party is telling them not to comment. They say people incredibly high up are on the side of the accused in the Beehive.”
  
  “They talked about not just sexual assault but rape, they said that this person worked in the Beehive for two years, he was offering promotions for sex. They said there was a huge power imbalance, they said the person was well known to Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson.
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/barry-soper-labour-party-in-turmoil-over-sex-assault-bullying-claims/
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:29am
  - herb1
    
    Add the Young Labour abuser to that but in
    My opinion the worst of all. Shroubek ? to the tally.
    Drug dealers cause the most harm to the most people , usually young and the harm they do causes loss of life and ruination of life.
    Ardern directly involved herself in getting this piece of filth a New Zealand visa and will be responsible for the inevitable carnage he causes.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:57am
- G152
  
  First thing the Nats should do upon gaining Government is shut down the fake news funding and pass draconian laws that punish media for their lies and make it covering the past.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:35am
  - kowtow
    
    We don’t need any more draconian laws , thank you .
    
    But yes turn off the taps , all of the waste ones.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:50am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Crikey Tony is desperate. So what if Labour knew and watched National dutifully walk off the cliff? The Nats had they any brains and were not an old boy’s club, would have gone for a zero-risk candidate, and no story today.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:43am
  - igm
    
    One thing for sure, Nats would not want convicts in their old boys’ club . . . get the message!
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:52am
    - kowtow
      
      Plenty of current funding going that way .
      
      Nothing to see here.
      
      “A newspaper has won a court battle to publish the name of Labour Tainui MP Nanaia Mahuta’s partner, William Gannin Ormsby, who has been convicted of assaulting a female.
      
      Ormsby, 34, pleaded guilty in the Hamilton District Court on June 9 to one charge of assaulting a female.
      
      Other charges, including indecent assault, sexual violation and assault with intent to commit sexual violation relating to another woman, were withdrawn by the Crown.”
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/mps-partner-hit-woman/S7GUU75RJU5WIKB766LOOUBLFI/
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:52am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Brian. You are out walking the streets, forgiveness was given unto you but there is no charity in your soul…
    
    Sam was involved in stupid teenage activity which was wrong and should be condemned, but no one died….
    
    You on the other hand were an adult and knew exactly what you were doing …. and some one did die…
    
    Maybe you should refrain from talking about acts of violence and consequences..
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:53am
    - Nickc2
      
      The last few lines of the linked document are very interesting. I’m very surprised this article appeared in the Herald of all news outlets.
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        It appeared in 2003. I’m sure there would be name suppression nowadays.
        
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        August 11, 2022 4:17pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Brian – or at least start with some contrition & sign that you’ve repented of your evil ways
      
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      August 11, 2022 4:29pm
  - Cinematic
    
    In your flailing mind can you not see all politicians owe a duty of care to the citizens of this country? They’re all our paid for poodles. If Labour think politics trumps that duty they’re unfit. If they thought this story worthy for the public they should have released it immediately.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:21am
- kowtow
  
  That story was atributed to the ODT , which prides itself as the independent voice of the south .
  
  But it’s just another pusher of the regime narrative .
  
  The are particpants in the Public Interest Judas Fund.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:04am
- kowtow
  
  Jo Moir
  “Newsroom political editor. Political correspondent for Today FM. Formerly senior political reporter at RNZ and Stuff.”
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:17am
- Yvette
  
  … it looks like two Labour MP’s were tipped off about Uffindell’s departure from Kings on 9th June, well before the closing of the Tauranga by-election campaign, as were members of the media.
  
  • Would this not reveal nasty political interests took precedent over letting an electorate vote fairly and democratically for a representative – not just one person, one vote: but an informed vote.
  • Were these people who knew beforehand that totally uncertain where votes would go if Uffeindell was cancelled?
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:22am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yes, it would, especially when one of those tagged in was the Labour candidate for Tauranga, Jan Tinetti.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:33am
- David Garrett
  
  Tony S: re the state of Ufindells flat 20 years ago is pretty lame…when my career imploded 12 years ago they hunted down guys in Australia who I hadn’t seen since I left school 35 years before hoping to find some dirt…five years AFTER I resigned two scum journos spent TWO DAYS in the village
  Near where I live trying to dig some dirt…Two days…the village of Kaukapakapa is a blink and you miss it kind of place; they must have interviewed everyone who lives in the place…after they got thrown out of the school, the hairdressers, the local garage
  ..
  
  Whatever Uffindell does they will NEVER leave him alone…witness the hapless Aaron Gilmore…Front page news a wee while ago re a rather sordid family squabble which ended up in court.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:21am
Tom Barker

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It’s in your family’s interest for you to resign from Parliament, Mr Uffindell. It’s certainly in your party’s interest. It may not be in your personal best interest, but what matters most to you, Mr Uffindell?
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August 11, 2022 8:19am
- think4myself
  
  Agree. If he is the changed man he says he is, he will step down in the interest of a recovery of NP reputation. While this may be a well timed LP media beat up, the reality is the character of the man, and the culture of the party, is in question. I stopped voting for the NP based on men behaving badly (and the odd woman too) and the culture within the party didn’t resonate. I’m still dancing around a return to the NP, as are many friends. We largely went to Act, some went to Labour. How Luxon manages this will be a test of his leadership.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:42am
- Cassandra
  
  I think you’re right, Tom. Either that or National instils some morality in the media when it takes over governing. Perhaps both are necessary.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:59am
- Hebe123
  
  I don’t think its in National’s best interests at all. They should show some backbone and either stand by their candidate or – if there is more to it and it carries on into his adult life – make a call to ask him to stand down.
  
  Personally I’m way more concerned about predatory behaviour of adults in the Parliament and Labour Youth Camps, and bullying by so-called adult Mallard than i am by bullying by a 16 year old. I’ve not talked to anyone who thinks he should go or says they would have changed their vote (had they been in Tauranga) as a result of knowing this.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:05am
ClanMcleod

Matt Taibbi is a good journalist in my opinion. He was formerly with Rolling Stone magazine. He’s done a piece on the raid on Trump’s house. The full article is paywalled, but there is an option to access a 7 day free trial, however you can read enough of the article to get the gist of the point he is making. Recommended reading.

The opening paragraph sums it up pretty well.

“Welcome to the Third World
The FBI really better have something “pulverizing” on Trump, because otherwise we’ve just witnessed one of the dumbest moves in the history of politics”

I couldn’t agree more. This has to be a fait accompli or it will make the circuses of Russiagate and the January 6th committee look like brilliant slam dunks.
They were both abysmal, partisan hit jobs and complete failures. The Dems are competing with Ardern for the title of “biggest train wreck in a century”. For demolition of an economy, shredding of social fabric and increasingly fascist behaviour – it’s a close run thing. Canada and Germany very close behind.
I’ll do a post on Germany in a short while which shows they may be rapidly gaining on the current leaders, Biden and Ardern.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-third-world?r=5mz1&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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August 11, 2022 8:24am
- Tom Hunter
  
  [The Justice Department] must immediately explain the reason for its raid and it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives, or it will be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation and legitimacy of January 6 investigations.
  
  Well duh! But it’s the author of that quote that I find amazing; it’s Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:54am
  - virtualmark
    
    Tom,
    
    I don’t expect the DoJ will release any extra information about this matter. They may be considering laying charges, which would then lead to a trial. So they will not want to run any risk of tainting that trial process.
    
    But Trump must have a copy of the search warrant, and he is free to publish it at any time. Common sense says that if it were a frivolous or vexatious search then he would have published the search warrant to show that. He hasn’t.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:35am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      But Trump must have a copy of the search warrant, and he is free to publish it at any time.
      
      You’ve been banging this drum for two days now. The probable cause for the warrant was sealed, so Trump’s lawyers can’t even know what it was in full unless they go to court to find out. The best we’ve got is from his lawyers who saw it and say it’s about the Presidental Records Act, but without having photographic memories they won’t be able to provide more details, let alone “publish it”.
      
      Think of it like the corrupted FISA warrants for wire-tapping Carter Page. Even if you found out you were being wire-tapped you would not be able to get access to the warrant, let alone the FBI-falsified “evidence” that supported it. It took an FBI Inspector General to find that out, and years too late.
      
      How many swings of the bat have you and your precious Democrats taken at this guy now? A dozen? When are you going to learn about your mistaken assumptions that you repeat every single time?
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:17am
      - virtualmark
        
        Tom,
        
        Go and read the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. Rule 41 covers search warrants. It’s at https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41
        
        “(f)(1)(C) Receipt. The officer executing the warrant must give a copy of the warrant and a receipt for the property taken to the person from whom, or from whose premises, the property was taken or leave a copy of the warrant and receipt at the place where the officer took the property.”
        
        Trump’s representative (presumably Christina Bobb, his lawyer, who was present for the search) would have been left with a copy of the search warrant and the inventory of what was taken.
        
        Trump and his legal team will not have the warrant affidavit, which was used to obtain the warrant. But they will have the warrant itself. It will show what laws are alleged to have been broken, what the searchers are looking for, and what areas they are allowed to search in. They will get the affidavit under discovery if/when any charges are laid.
        
        Mate, I’m not a Democrat. I’m just calling the balls and strikes objectively. Which mainly means looking at what the law says, and what people actually do not say.
        
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        August 11, 2022 11:42am
      - Nickc2
        
        Exactly! It makes our corrupt MSM and Govt fade into insignificance when one follows the antics of the US Democrat Party eh?
        
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        August 11, 2022 11:45am
      - Tom Hunter
        
        Go and read the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.
        
        I’ve got something better than a mere link to the regulations, and that’s a guy who worked search warrants for years, former US Attorney, Andy McCarthy, who worked with the FBI and other agencies including leading the successful terrorism prosecution against Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman in 1995. Of warrants he says this:
        
        Search-warrant applications are filed with the court and remain sealed unless and until charges are ultimately filed. Usually, if you could read the warrant application the prosecutor wrote, you would know what possible crimes were under investigation. Usually, but not always.
        
        He goes to explain why that would not be the case here, and it has to do with the extreme unlikelihood of prosecuting a politician, especially a former President, for mishandling classified information (see, Clinton, Hillary, 2o16). McCarthy points out that this warrant is merely a pretext to look for Jan 6 stuff.
        
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        August 11, 2022 12:14pm
      - Tom Hunter
        
        Mate, I’m not a Democrat. I’m just calling the balls and strikes objectively.
        
        Oh please. Although you are not a Democrat nor I a Republican we have occasionally debated US politics for well over a decade here at KB. In all that time I can never recall you doing anything except defending Democrats and their actions to the death and attacking Republicans – and your crack the other day about DeSantis as the new Orban suggests you’re right on track for another few years of such.
        
        Instead I’ll go with the comments of this lady, Ann Althouse, former legal professor in Madison, Wisconsin (now retired), Obama and Hillary voter, no lover of Trump, and yet someone who actually is willing to call “balls and strikes”:
        
        As Richard Ben Cramer put it in the great book “What It Takes”:
        Bork kept talking about originalist jurisprudence, neutral principles of Constitutional Reasoning, the bankruptcy of the theory of penumbral emanations… while Biden talked about cops in our bedrooms!
        
        And now it’s FBI agents! In Melania’s wardrobe!
        …
        But, what were they looking for? Why was this deemed necessary or even appropriate?
        
        A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020. Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources. In May, Corcoran granted access into Mar-a-Lago’s windowless storage room to FBI agents who spent several hours searching through the boxes. Trump stopped by the basement to say hello at one point, says someone who was there.
        
        What was the sense of the raid? Has anyone in power come forward to explain to us, the People? I don’t think so. We are left to accept the arrogant We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere.
        
        She’s not happy with this shit, but then, although opposed to Trump, she’s not suffering from TDS.
        
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        August 11, 2022 12:29pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Tom, I can’t speak for Andy McCarthy but here’s the common sense plain-speaking part …
        – The affidavit for the search warrant will set out the theory of the case. What the DOJ knows, how they know it, who they’ve talked to etc etc.
        – That is not information that any prosecutor will share with the defence, or potential defence, until after charges are laid … why tell the target what you know???
        – As I said in my earlier comment, Trump’s team will receive the affidavit under discovery if/when charges are laid.
        
        This is Criminal Law 101.
        
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        August 11, 2022 1:50pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Tom,
        
        If I were registered to vote in the US then I would register as an Independent. Historically I think I would have voted Republican (Reagan, Bush Snr etc). But now I don’t believe I could. Not because I’m not a conservative. But because I believe in democracy, and not authoritarianism. And the GOP has lost its way there.
        
        Re the documents at M-A-L … any classified national security documents are the property of the US government, not the property of Donald Trump. He doesn’t have a permanent security clearance (no President does, their right to classified material finishes the minute their successor is sworn in). He has no right to hold, store etc any classified documents. *If* there were classified national security documents at M-A-L then that is improper and a crime. That’s a really simple test – either documents of that type are/were there or not. We will have to wait and see if any charges are filed.
        
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        August 11, 2022 1:55pm
      - Batman
        
        This could be resolved by Trump or his team releasing the warrant. I suspect it would not serve his purposes to do so.
        
        He’s better off right now with the entire GOP and conservative establishment throwing themselves on the ground to defend the deity. I’m sure it’s been fucking great for his donations accounts!
        
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        August 11, 2022 2:44pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I’m still waiting for Tom to recall his Damascus Road moment, when he abandoned his successive crushes on Christie, Jeb! and Cruz and realised Trump was his true conservative messiah.
        But for now I guess I’ll just have to keep giggling at his risible claim he doesn’t support republicans.
        
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        August 11, 2022 2:26pm
      - RichardX
        
        Remarkable deflection Tom. VM was 100% correct in what he was saying so you change the subject. No wonder MM rates you so highly.
        
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        August 11, 2022 6:27pm
    - Sacha
      
      Perhaps he is holding his fire?
      
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      August 11, 2022 11:38am
  - virtualmark
    
    Oh, and Cuomo must surely know that. So I suspect his comments are driven by his personal situation, where he will be worried about investigators coming after politicians.
    
    I’d file this under “But of course he would said that”.
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:01am
- virtualmark
  
  The “pulverizing” is a reference to an interview with Dan Laufman, who used to head the FBI national security division that got the warrant and did the search.
  
  Laufman said “If I were a senior department official who reviewed this prior to pulling the trigger on presenting an affidavit to a magistrate judge, I would’ve wanted a sufficient quality and quantity of evidence that was so pulverizing in its effect to simply neutralize any arguments to the contrary.”
  
  So, one option is that the FBI do indeed have a “pulverising” amount of information to justify this search.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:18am
- virtualmark
  
  Note that since 2009, Israel has indicted its sitting prime minister, France has prosecuted and convicted two former presidents, and South Korea has prosecuted, convicted, and imprisoned two of its former presidents. All were on corruption charges. It’s not unheard of among democracies.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:19am
Maggie Pie

A bestie from Tennis just came up with this slogan to put on Tee-Shirts….

‘HIT THE ROAD FATTY’

(I told her it might be a bit to soon?)
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August 11, 2022 8:32am
- Frank the tank
  
  If Te Reo had a sense of humor he’d say that to Poor Man’s Gordon Brown next time he walked out of the debating chamber.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:54am
- Frank the tank
  
  Big Sam would have been a hoot on the sauce back in the day.
  
  Bringing back memories of the loaded hog and leftfield in the 90s down in the viaduct.
  
  Back when going into town and having some beers was a safe endeavor……
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:36am
Brian McDonald

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I wonder why with all the recent history Luxon wasn’t on top of prospective new candidate procedures? I thought it would have been his priority, it now is revealed that purportedly the candidate report was in his office but “someone” didn’t show it to him. Some safe pair of hands.
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August 11, 2022 8:35am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Strategy, Brian.
  
  It looks like Nats may be cleaning out some of their dead wood. Time will tell if the new Wood has her finger on the pulse.
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:47am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Sylvia Wood is a very capable woman. She has owned a successful HR and Employment Relations business for over 20 years, and is highly respected around the traps. When she was elected to National’s board last year, I was of the opinion she would be the next party president.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:54am
    - coolas
      
      Hope Sylvia wasn’t party to the decision to keep Luxon in the dark about Uffindell’s past. Not a good start to her Presidency if she was.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:39am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Zero risk can be implemented even with dead wood by putting processes in place that takes decisions and strategies out of the dead wood’s hands Maggie. Just like a neighbourhood with a risky pedestrian crossing near a school the locals take action. Candidate bombs have been going off with the Nats for years and Luxon didn’t have the smarts to strangle the problem.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:57am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Good analysis
      
      Luxon didn’t have the smarts to strangle the problem.
      
      He didn’t have the ‘power” to deal with the problem.
      
      Remember.. the Leader of the Nats isn’t the one in charge of the Party.
      
      I’m not a member of the Nats (or any political Party), but check out the structure of the Organisation and try and identify where the rot is sitting.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_National_Party#Organisation
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:07am
      - Sacha
        
        Good link – thanks Maggy W.
        
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        August 11, 2022 11:46am
  - Cassandra
    
    Labour is composed of dead wood. It’s their perennial problem. A talent free zone, except in doling out OPM.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:01am
Warren

We need to keep pushing that Jacinda Ardern’s reply to bulling is to reward the person with a Diplomatic Post to Dublin.
Chris Luxon has been pushed into a corner and has still found time and the balls to stand Sam Uffindell down and send him back to Tauranga to his Family until the investigation into his past has been completed
It is now becoming obvious that this is definitely a Labour Party hit job and they have known about it since before June 10, 2022 and have used it after the last One News Kanter Poll from Monday August 8, 2022.
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August 11, 2022 8:44am
- Warren
  
  A good article from John McDonald.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/opinion-attention-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-this-is-how-you-deal-with-a-bully/FFJN3PJ6YXD56BFRPD4PI24XSY/
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Why am I being penalised for being an old married woman?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/129534591/65yearold-says-its-wrong-she-gets-less-nz-super-for-being-married
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August 11, 2022 8:50am
- cmm
  
  Isn’t it supposed to be driven by need?
  If you’re living with someone and thus sharing housing expenses then you don’t need as much.
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:03am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    That’s the point of the article:
    
    As long as you’re not legally entwined with the adult who shares your house expenses, you get a higher superannuation payout.
    
    Sensible couples should divorce before the age of 65…and re-establish themselves as solo housemates.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:52am
    - virtualmark
      
      Winston can give you step-by-step instructions for how to do that.
      
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      August 11, 2022 12:01pm
      - mogg
        
        Yes that is the very reason we now have the Ardern govt. Supposedly a lawyer and he couldn’t fill in his super claim form properly.
        
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        August 11, 2022 2:00pm
Tony Stuart

Kudos to Christopher Luxon for resisting media demands to identify the staff member who didn’t brief him on Sam Uffindell. He deserves respect for not throwing his staffer under the media bus, and dealing with what was a pretty significant omission in-house.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/129537912/sam-uffindell-bullying-allegations-what-national-leader-christopher-luxon-knew-and-when
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August 11, 2022 8:51am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  I’m so sceptical now I believe Luxon has walked into his own trap.
  I also think he’s overstepped the mark if he’s expecting any complainants to co-operate with “his” inquiry without legal advice.
  Anyway got to go paint a crane.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:00am
- Ross Campbell
  
  Another long day ahead trying to put a positive spin on another National Party disaster Tony?.
  Correct me if I’m wrong but we’re you not saying that Uffindell was going to be a good candidate when he was put up for National?.
  As you said with Hipango we all make mistakes and I agree with you but this is really pushing it.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:00am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Now that the media is reduced to obsessing how gross Uffindell’s Dunedin flat (shared with a number of others) was, I suspect the tide of public opinion is turning. He’s certainly not the only person in the Parliament to have been an arsehat in his youth, nor will he be the last. What counts is what he has made of his life since then, and what he’s learned along the way.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:47am
    - Nickc2
      
      What counts is what he has made of his life since then, and what he’s learned along the way.
      Well said. Pitty the same can’t be said for Mallard!
      Then again, maybe not.
      
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      August 11, 2022 9:53am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Who’s to say it was Sam who made some, most or any of the mess? Looks like it was a flat decision (with one abstainer).
      
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      August 11, 2022 4:53pm
- Andrei
  
  Really Tony?
  
  Perhaps the staffer doesn’t exist
  
  For some reason the old aphorism “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear” comes to mind when it comes to Nationals latest pitiful attempt to find a credible leader
  
  This just makes me cringe
  https://youtu.be/rMePrwQfT5I
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:07am
- nathie
  
  Luxon’s leadership has been spot on – empathetic, decisive and in-tune to the optics. Calling in a QC prompt-smart was a superb move.
  
  Also having Sam U. front to media (rather than hide) was also a good move, but the only thing I would suggest is restricting the media appearances eg it was good that he was interviewed by ZB/Hosking (who grilled him), plus his stand-up interview at Parliament, but forget about RNZ/Morning Report (they are ferals).
  
  After all that’s what Labour does – Jacinda’s media appearances are staged managed to front up to friendly media only. As for Morning Report they lost further credibility when they didn’t put up a fight and didn’t criticise the PM when she pulled out the regular weekly interview slots.
  
  I would even go as far as suggesting National leaders (Luxon) pull out from Morning Report’s regular weekly slots as all they do is talk over him, and interrupt (and turn the audio faders down so he can’t be heard responding). They are unprofessional, heavily biased and are simply partisan hard-lefties denigrating the once great Morning Report brand.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:22am
  - David Garrett
    
    Nathie: Re Morning Report…I stopped listening to it this year after 40 odd years…I’m betting dear old Geoff Robinson can’t bear to listen to it either.
    
    Mike Hosking was one of the presenters way back in the day…he was very good
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:32am
Maggie Pie

I’m hearing a lot of mums are taking their sons out to Big Kings this morning rather than risk putting them on the train with the boys going to Otahuhu College.

The words out apparently 🙁
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August 11, 2022 9:01am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

We are being played. What is this Govt doing to NZ? Here are two Women from Nelson Hospital Emergency who speak out about the Covid vaccine. About 37 min.
https://resistance.kiwi/nelson-hospital-emergency-department-staff-speak-out/
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August 11, 2022 9:02am
Tomtoddy

This is a very perceptive and well balanced article on energy, climate change and then crime. Well worth reading.

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/why-we-create-the-apocalypse-we-fear?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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August 11, 2022 9:04am
Swifty

Someone from our news media should stick a microphone under Willie Jackson’s chin and ask him whether he has ever assaulted anybody.

They should then do the same with Ardern asking her if Jackson has ever assaulted anybody.
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August 11, 2022 9:12am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Pray do tell more……
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:05am
  - Nickc2
    
    It’s been reported previously that Willie Jackson was once a Security Guard. My experience with Security Guards (Bouncers) is that they don’t mind a bit off the biff.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:20am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

More from Resistance.Kiwi.
https://resistance.kiwi/masks-health-or-just-control/
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August 11, 2022 9:12am
Flossie

Talk about National not vetting candidates properly. How about someone takes responsibility for not vetting people applying for medical positions in a top hospital. Let’s blame Little.
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August 11, 2022 9:14am
- Ghost
  
  No need, Peter Goodfellow has gone
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:06am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    As I recall he timed his departure to ensure his legacy lives on?
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:19am
kipper

It’s clear Labour have an army of people digging for dirt, and they are not afraid to pass it on to their media. The big question is: What is National going to do about it?
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August 11, 2022 9:24am
- Ghost
  
  What gave that away? was it mike going to Australia to dig up dirt on John Key. Hopefully nationals reply is to not throw dirt, people don’t like a mud fight, national needs to just focus on the election and take ministers out for not doing their job,
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:08am
  - Warren
    
    Mike and Pete both germs that liked spending taxpayers money.
    
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    August 11, 2022 10:51am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Yep, play a straight bat. Pretend this version of squid games is just cricket. That should work (not).
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:05am
- pdm
  
  kipper – Mike Williams has probably been running training courses on how to select the right rubbish bins to go through.
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:10am
ClanMcleod

Michael Laws interviews Michael Beaker (deliberate misspelling, think “Muppets”) – listen to this complete moron trying to defend his position on masking.

https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/professor-michael-baker-on-masks-and-covid-19

Laws asks some reasonable questions and Beaker flounders, but for some reason Laws doesn’t bring up the flagrant lie that Beaker told when he said he had never said that masks didn’t work.
Liar liar pants on fire.
I will have to email Laws and ask him why he missed this obvious question.

He did point out the hypocrisy of masks in restaurants but not at the rugby, that masks in schools make no sense and that the RAT tests don’t work. Listening to Beaker splutter is entertaining.
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August 11, 2022 9:26am
greybeard

Moving the Tertiary Education year: Things which Stuart Nash obviously has not considered….

What do the thousands of Tertiary education staff think about this proposal to rearrange their lives, not to mention their families and dependents?
Does he realise that Unis etc have probably set up timetables for years into the future?
How about the bookings and organisation required for graduation ceremonies?
What about fitting in with the secondary schools, especially at the start of the new year?
Has he had any discussions with owners of Uni flats etc who plan to do maintenance over the summer break?
How about connections with overseas institutions which have their own timetables?
How about a million other things ?
Another stupid Labour idea with no real thought behind it.
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August 11, 2022 9:35am
- kowtow
  
  The stupid idea was their lockdowns .
  
  Now the consequences.
  
  And there was always an alternative . The Swedes showed the way .
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:54am
- Nickc2
  
  Honestly, did you think Stuart Nash was capable of thinking a plan all the way through, complete with ramifications?
  Thinking a plan all the way through is a bit too grown up for members of this Govt and Nash in particular.
  IMO, he should stick to Cindy Worship. He’s good at that.
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:08am
- Sacha
  
  Re Uni holidays: I was brought up on a farm, and. I alway understood that the long summer holiday were originally arranged so that children could help out with the summer harvesting on the farms and later, the orchards, and that they could attend school when there wasn’t so much to do on the farm.
  Back in the 50’s university students flocked to Hastings for fruit harvesting, and earned enough money for their university year (fees and all) if they were careful, as well as having a long carefree summer. I worked the summer holidays at the Birds Eye staff Cafe and there was a cooked dinner every evening for those working the night shift.
  I gathered that the lecturers used the long break for travel to other universities, researching and and writing serious papers on their specialty subjects.
  With increased mechanisation on the orchards and farms, and financial support from the taxpayer, the need to earn a living while furthering their education in a useful way is largely removed.
  
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  August 11, 2022 4:16pm
Warren

Are bike advocates willing to put their agenda ahead of saftey in their quest to have a trial of a walking and cycling lane across Auckland Harbour. In a court case due to hit the courts cycling advocates are taking a case against Waka Kotahi saying they are wrong not to trial dedicated walking and cycling lanes across Auckland Harbour.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/reclaim-the-lane-no-water-under-the-bridge-for-bike-activistsk
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August 11, 2022 9:41am
- pdm
  
  Warren – not to mention further millions of taxpayers down the drain while NZ Transport Agency check the viability of it out.
  
  Not to mention the loss of productivity for those workers and business people held up on the bridge.
  
  All for a bit of virtue signalling.
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:14am
cas

Do you think the media would ever reprint Jacindás comrade speech and would she regret it, even though she was 27 at the time. Thought not.
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August 11, 2022 9:41am
- Frank the tank
  
  Or her involvement in the Darren Hughes saga…..
  
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  August 11, 2022 10:15am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Honestly, that always makes me sick whenever she pretends to care about people.
    
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    August 11, 2022 11:01am
- glowworm
  
  Here it is…
  
  https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:37pm
Benedict Yu

These are the ‘leaders’ of the New Zealand Ministry of Education (but they are now title ‘Hautū’ instead of ‘managers’).

https://www.education.govt.nz/our-work/our-role-and-our-people/our-leadership-team/

You would think reading through this that the school system is full of happy people being educated in all things Maori. There is no acknowledgement that education attainment has become a national emergency (or it should be regarded as such).

I have said before that the Ministry should be abolished and I am sincere in that statement. These people are part of the problem, not the solution.
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August 11, 2022 10:08am
- Swifty
  
  You read all those bios, statements, fancy visions and aspirations and you won’t find one single measure mentioned.
  
  Not one.
  
  40% of NZ school leavers are functionally illiterate and have a maths mastery of the average 12 year old, or younger.
  
  Meanwhile the ministry employs over 3000 people:
  
  https://www.education.govt.nz/our-work/our-role-and-our-people/careers-in-education/
  
  I reckon that would be $450 million to $600 million in salaries annually. Maybe more. And that’s just ministry staff – teachers and principals, around 70,000 of them are additional.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:01am
- rouppe
  
  Online translator turns “manager” into “kaiwhakahaere”.
  
  It doesn’t know what Hautu means.
  
  A different dictionary says its noun usage is “leader, person in control”, and the audio sounds like “how to”…
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:47am
surfing

Uffindell was a turkey from the start, I had a feeling that he was ‘off’. I said this on June 13th…
“He seems a bit odd to me. Maybe he’ll be good , time will tell.”

Time was not kind. Now he is too much risk for too little reward. I don’t care if he is reformed, he is tainted and a liability and I want labour out.

National should plan to replace him for the next election. Choose someone with due diligence this time. You’d think there have been enough scandals in the past for them to learn to vet their people. Seems they don’t learn.
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August 11, 2022 10:22am
kevn

Muller has been Uffindels mentor… well that would help. Not.
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August 11, 2022 10:33am
- septic skeptic
  
  Really? IMO Muller would not be out of place in Cindy’s cabinet. Maybe minister for white-anting? He has the same capacity to deliver results as the current lot, judging by what we saw after he rolled Bridges. Plus having failed so spectacularly himself he then started undermining Collins!
  That he is still in parliament and likely to be a minister in Luxon’s cabinet doesn’t give me much hope for Luxon as a PM.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:18am
  - H. Upmann
    
    Any problems National have had over the past 3 years rest squarely and firmly on the shoulders of Muller. He should have been marched out of Parliament at the moment he stepped down.
    
    The fact that Muller is on the shadow front bench is an indicator of Luxon’s character.
    
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    August 11, 2022 12:33pm
Surely Knott

RNZ accuses “Antimask movement” of the recent school bomb threats without a scrap of evidence. Note the media has changed the name from antivax to the “Antimask movement”. So anyone not wearing a mask is now being linked to extremism and bomb threats.

Their expert (a security expert linked to many big overseas govt projects) says he believes it’s the antimask movement because
1. over the last 18 months the NZ intellignce communities have said 4 times that any future threats of extremism will likely come from the anti vax movement. either from the center of the movement, a lone wolf or an extreme fringe. That’s the most likely possibility.

That’s it. That’s his evidence. He has stereotyped a group who oppose government abuse of the bill of rights as violent extremists based on reckons.

In the same way that if you did this based on someone’s religion or skin colour – this is stereotyping. And furthermore there is no evidence of current bomb threats or past behaviour of bomb threats from the unmasked. It is a disgusting abuse of power of the media and the security groups to be making baseless dangerous and divisive claims.

Perhaps they could do their damn job and find the actual people who made the bomb threats using investigation and facts and a court of law, instead of using the bomb threats as a political game to take down anyone who questions govt laws which in some cases were found in court to be illegal.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018851304/expert-thinks-anti-mask-movement-involved-in-hoax-bomb-threats
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August 11, 2022 10:34am
infused

Someone needs to OIA the government on any links to the reddit.com/r/newzealand subreddit.

A change of mods a few months ago and its very anti right wing now. Lots of ‘paid’ up votes of anti national/act threat. Shitposting now allowed.

Something smells fishy over there.

I also don’t know why the right is not taking advantage of that sub. It has 300,000 people subscribed to it. Mostly young voters.
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August 11, 2022 10:49am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s all about controlling narratives, and most effective means to that is editorial control/censorship of all media. Labour has achieved that directly through team of $55 million spend, as well as NZ on Air funding control, and indirectly through control of advertising spend – heaped upon outlets that praise labour and punish opposition.
  
  All incredibly corrupt and destructive of underpinning needs of functional democracy, but it’s different when the Left do it.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:42am
Tauhei Notts

As a retired accountant I help some clubs out with their annual accounts. Small outfits with assets of less than $20,000 and annual income of less than $20,000. Very small fry.
The External Reporting Board have released the accounting standards and guidelines to those standards for the “small fry”.
The Standards come to 31 pages and the Guidelines to 47 pages.
The title of those standards is, and I am not joking, “Public Benefit Entities Simple Format Reporting – Cash- Not For Profit Entities.
Why does this junta insist on making such simple tasks mind bogglingly complicated?
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August 11, 2022 11:00am
- Hometruth
  
  People with high paying goverment desk jobs have to justify their salary. So they come up with unessesary rules and regulations to make life difficult.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:39am
- Littletramp
  
  TN: The thousands of new govt employees have to find something to do each day. None of these paper shufflers actually create or produce anything tangible, but their private consumer spending of the borrowed money used to pay them raises GDP, which is a very good thing according to our finance minister.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:50am
- I remember when
  
  Tauhei Notts:
  
  And that’s before the Banks screw them over before they will allow them to their services.
  
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  August 11, 2022 1:18pm
curry4me

https://pjmedia.com/columns/gregbyrnes/2022/08/09/deep-state-burns-its-bridges-to-get-trump-and-now-its-fighting-for-its-life-n1619449

Deep State Burns Its Bridges to Get Trump—and Now It’s Fighting for Its Life.
What are we to make of 30 or so FBI agents raiding President Trump’s Florida home to collect maybe 35 boxes of records for what is perhaps the Deep State’s 7th or 8th impeachment attempt? First, why no raids on the Democrats who took the jet to Epstein’s pedophile island with its readily available sex with underage girls? Why no raids on Hunter Biden and the apparent crimes documented on the laptop? Why no raids on Hilary Clinton after she destroyed evidence?
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August 11, 2022 11:02am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Impeachment failed because representatives voted on party lines.
  
  I would have had far more respect for the GOP if they had voted simply on the evidence, which was, and still is, compelling.
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:51pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Trump should have been impeached because Clinton and the FBI falsely accused him of colluding with Russia?
    
    That doesn’t say much for you.
    
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    August 11, 2022 5:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sure doesn’t look like home detention and remaining in her local environment has been a great success for this young woman.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/472655/teen-convicted-for-death-of-grace-virtue-back-in-court-on-robbery-theft-charges

Sometimes wrap-around family/whanau “care” is the last thing youngsters need.
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August 11, 2022 11:09am
- Swifty
  
  The death of that lady, Grace Virtue, really affected me.
  
  It was the topic of much conversation in my family – partially driven by our own grandmother retiring to Levin back in the 70s and ultimately popping her clogs there in 1980.
  
  I have wondered many times whether any of the three offenders would reappear in the newspapers, and not for good reasons.
  
  Alas, it has now come to pass.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:43am
Alan Wilkinson

Pity this country. Voters have a choice between sensible policy and clueless politics or clueless policy and ruthless politics. What a disaster.
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August 11, 2022 11:10am
Swifty

Does Sharon Murdoch realise the truth behind her ‘corporate welfare’ cartoon dated Aug 10 in Stuff?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/94869389/sharon-murdoch-cartoons

That the responsibility for all three ‘bad situations’ she shows lie firmly and fully with Ardern and her gang?

Or is she too stupid to realise it?
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August 11, 2022 11:19am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  She is just another who knows everything so will never learn anything. This country is run by them, mostly female and not a STEM graduate amongst them.
  
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  August 11, 2022 11:55am
- Ghost
  
  Looking at the poor lady on crutches all I can think is damn Smurfette hasn’t aged well
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:01pm
- Bullion
  
  These issues happened around the globe where Govts supported businesses through the pandemic. Kathmandu took JobKeeper payments in Australia as well the wage subsidy in NZ and posted record profits with payouts to shareholders, same for NZME in NZ – let staff go, took wage subsidy, posted profits and paid out shareholders. The idea of maximising shareholder value over everything else is so corrosive to our society, its lead to damages to our environment, the suppression of wages and worker conditions and tax avoidance.
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:30pm
  - Swifty
    
    Good grief you write some nonsense on here at times.
    
    The profit motive that you so glibly deride drives innovation and enterprise and feeds, clothes, educates and cares for millions of New Zealanders daily.
    
    It is also the means by which wealth is created. The wealth by which pays for every government you invariably applaud.
    
    No profit motive, no wealth. No wealth, no Labour Party.
    
    You should have a good think about that and come back to us.
    
    Also, you are quite wrong to conflate profit-driven activity with the actions of Kathmandu owners and management. If I was them I would give the subsidies back, if it was clear they were not required or deserved – as measured by any surpluses I enjoyed at years end.
    
    BTW – environmental degradation under socialist regimes dwarfs that under mixed/free market economies.
    
    Let’s start with a chat about Chernobyl shall we?
    
    As for worker conditions under free markets versus socialist or communist regimes – you’re joking aren’t you? Words fail me.
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:23pm
    - plc
      
      Personally I always look back dew-eyed to the wonderful days in 1933 of the Ukrainian collective?//
      
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      August 11, 2022 5:30pm
      - Swifty
        
        That is wise.
        
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        August 11, 2022 8:44pm
Ghost

Hmm, driving through town I noticed something, I wonder what it could mean, lol

https://postimg.cc/67GWxNxB
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August 11, 2022 11:30am
Swifty

God’s Apostle pleads guilty to careless driving:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/destiny-church-leader-brian-tamaki-admits-crashing-car-into-elderly-couple-near-rotorua/G7MSAK735XED5J6C6OUL3626P4/

I guess his god wasn’t looking out for him that day, or doesn’t care.
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August 11, 2022 11:39am
- MCōs
  
  I expect Jesus sent his Apostle a text at an inopportune moment.
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:42pm
  - Swifty
    
    A very good point MCos.
    
    That’ll explain it.
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:25pm
I remember when

Two female youths have been taken into custody following a vicious attack that saw Palmerston North retailers and others fearing for their safety.
Incidentally the businesses in the area are largely Asian or Middle Eastern.
So not a stale, white male problem.
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August 11, 2022 11:46am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Asian or Middle Eastern; Serves them right for running businesses //
  “Gibsmedat” is just reparations and restoring balance, where people are suffering from post-colonial stress disorder.
  What we need is more ‘Gibsmedat’ people and less small business.
  Luckily, Labour said “Let’s Do This!”//
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:30pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Finally saw the footage for the context of the original post: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/shocking-footage-shows-horrific-attack-on-palmerston-north-shop-by-gang-of-youths/JGGDN7DWSGWXBVSHR6DY4X7X5E/
    
    Couple of observations, much use of the word ‘Bro’ by the offenders. Kick to the face, wailing on the staff with fists, and when a large male restrains one of them the comment from behind the camera ‘You can’t {touch/punch?} girls, Bro’.
    Smashing glass, etc.
    Just like I have seen shoplifters shout at staff “You can’t touch me!” as they walk out with items stuffed in their pants.
    The businesses and public NEED to be able to touch these people.
    
    For these rangitahi, a full force kick in the shins might do, or a fist into the bread-basket/diaphram.
    Because by the looks of the punch up, the classification into ‘Ladies’ and “Gentlemen” does not apply any more. End it, swiftly.
    The earlier reference to the old lady mortally injured by a punch & drop by another group of Wahine Maori she let into her home means you can’t assume that these types will not knock teeth out, gouge your eyes (like seen on an injured bus driver a while back) or even stick a knife into you.
    It sounds like it was just luck that meant none of the stuff were injured by glass projectiles according to the article.
    Ah, this is NZ evolving into Aotearoa. Thanks Biggly, NZ Labour party!
    
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    August 11, 2022 3:36pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      I wonder why they don’t do that in the US?
      
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      August 11, 2022 5:05pm
- surfing
  
  This looks like tribal warfare.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/shocking-footage-shows-horrific-attack-on-palmerston-north-shop-by-gang-of-youths/JGGDN7DWSGWXBVSHR6DY4X7X5E/
  
  These vicious young beasts are ‘iwi’. Iwi are them. No elders to be seen.
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:49pm
I remember when

Newshub of Tuesday night featured an item on the Wellington slips.
The Council representative stated plainly that the number of slips has not been out of the ordinary.
However, TV reporters breathlessly stated that July was amongst the wettest on record and MORE rain was due next week.
Thank goodness- I was starting to think there was nothing to worry about.
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August 11, 2022 11:51am
I remember when

What a magnificent sight the moon was around dawn this morning.
Full and low, just above the horizon in the south.
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August 11, 2022 12:02pm
Ghost

Good interview with Sean Plunket and Winston

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLQMB2KwQpM
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August 11, 2022 12:16pm
- Ghost
  
  Hmmm, Winston hinting this Uffindell story came from Act. Barry Soper Amy’s he knows who it came from.
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:33pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Winston is talking through an orifice between his legs. Go to Twitter and have a look at Hawaiian Reg’s profile and his recent tweets; he hates National and Act, and is a devout follower of Saint Jacinda.
    
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    August 11, 2022 1:38pm
    - MCōs
      
      What about it?
      Social media is full of people with forthright political opinions, many far more extreme than those expressed there.
      A lot of less agitated tweets too, including this one I saw today.
      https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1557459247788879872?s=21&t=UO84byrXZl971E2MHYmsOQ
      
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      August 11, 2022 2:54pm
  - surfing
    
    Winston is a 2 faced liar though. He is the first person to throw people under the bus. In the interview Winston Peters says innocent until proven guilty should apply then whines about his own legal troubles.
    
    Remember Brendan Horan? He was accused by a family member of stealing money. Winston destroyed him before finding out the facts. Winston acted as judge, jury, and executioner. Yet Horan was later completely exonerated….
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/mp-brendan-horan-cleared-of-wrongdoing/KD6PECULAODRIKXZCISXEYTZEE/
    
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    August 11, 2022 3:00pm
  - kevn
    
    @Ghoost… Grunter to be sure. A true shadowy operator.
    
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    August 11, 2022 3:20pm
I remember when

King’s principal at the time, John Taylor said,”King’s didn’t have a wider bullying problem at the time and the assault was an outlier that happened in the excitement of the end of the year.”
“His behaviour that night was unacceptable.”
Reverend Warner Wilder, King’s chaplain 1989-2016, said there were isolated cases of bullying, but the Uffindell assault wasn’t tolerated once it came to light.
“The bottom line is when you have 100’s of boys living together, things will happen. Boys will be boys.”

Obviously wasn’t “Jack the Ripper.”
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August 11, 2022 12:16pm
- MCōs
  
  I lived in a boarding school for four years.
  There were fights, that lasts a few minutes. Some boys were picked on; they got older, bigger, and picked on someone else.
  Nobody ever got a gang together and pummeled a much younger kid with a weapon. Mister U looks like he might have been a fairly big kid too.
  
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  August 11, 2022 3:07pm
CAKE FACE1

Mr Prebble argues that Mr Luxon is actually doing a really good job:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/richard-prebble-christopher-luxons-report-card-and-why-the-election-is-his-to-lose/USVMBVBPTFNNFO3PNWC5LWMJC4/

On reflection, I think that he is correct.

The Uffindell business shows Labour and the lickspittle team of $55 million are super scared.

Mr Luxon looks Prime Ministerial. I’m sure some would like him to be more aggressive, but I now think that his low key approach is the way forward.

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey…

Let ACT do the dirty work. It’s a team game.

The tide is definitely turning…
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August 11, 2022 12:32pm
Alan Wilkinson

National needs a proper media policy: a) privatise radio and tv, b) remove all govt funding of programming, c) make it a criminal offence to discriminate based on editorial policy when allocating public funded advertising.
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August 11, 2022 12:38pm
- Nickc2
  
  Sell em all They’re biased and corrupt.
  
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  August 11, 2022 12:42pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Yes but who would buy?
    
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    August 11, 2022 6:12pm
- septic skeptic
  
  That sounds a noble ideal. Except that you can’t bind future governments, so it can simply be decriminalized. I reckon it is time to fight fire with fire – to redress the imbalance of recent years.
  
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  August 11, 2022 1:08pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    It would be nice to think the country would support the principle but unfortunately the idiot quota means you are right.
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:48pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The problem is that a future corrupt left wing govt can turn all media back into propagandist outlets using exactly same tricks as Ardern’s mob has.
  
  Answer is for a National Govt to endow an explicitly right wing news organisation or contestable funding body for long term – put a billion in an endowment for them to survive a 2-3 term left wing govt and keep producing news from viewpoint of centre right. Could do same for centre left to maintain balance, and then cease all other govt funding of media. Also require all govt advertising spend to be signed off on by opposition. The contribution that would make to preserving democracy in NZ would be more than worth the price.
  
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  August 11, 2022 1:10pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    Not a bad idea. Certainly, something must be done. We can’t carry on with this sort of bias and propaganda.
    
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    August 11, 2022 1:50pm
  - Michael J Baker
    
    I’ve wondered about something like this and my conclusion is that, like all things public, they eventually get corrupted by the collectivists. They are like rust; they never sleep. There’s also a risk it gets subverted by kiwi RINOs. The sad reality is that kiwis aren’t broadly informed/educated and/or simply don’t care this stuff and gawk at the idiot box. Also, note that we have the NBR – and parts of NewstalkZB aren’t too left.
    No, just remove all public funding. Gut it, gas it, cancel it, starve it. Don’t feed the cancer.
    
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    August 11, 2022 3:00pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Another option would be to give each MP $1-200k/ year to contribute to one of a selection of competing non-profit bodies that fund NZ news media. But that could be disrupted by a future govt.
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:25pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Give them NOTHING!
      
      If the Newspapers/Radio/Tv journalists can’t provide a service that pays for itself, then so be it.
      
      (Didn’t a couple of Labour MPs express similar sentiments that if a small business couldn’t cope with a Covid Lockdown, then it didn’t deserve to be in business?)
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/04/labour-mp-deborah-russell-facing-backlash-over-tone-deaf-offensive-remarks-on-small-businesses.html
      
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      August 11, 2022 8:07pm
- emmess
  
  Just shut them all down
  Decent new niche media will arise in its place.
  If a future government tries to create a new state proganda behemoth, atleast it won’t have a built in audience.
  
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  August 11, 2022 5:40pm
Jack5

Red Radio’s web page includes an item about young Maori women standing for local bodies.

This is great, the way it should be. Maori should stand for open election. There should be no race-based reserved seats, with members appointed by tribal executives.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/472656/local-elections-2022-wahine-maori-challenge-mayoral-seats
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August 11, 2022 12:40pm
CAKE FACE1

CAKE is an extremely law abiding individual.

However, I don’t wear a mask – ever. About 50% of people still wear masks, in my area.

By not wearing a mask, I hope to illustrate to the mentally ill people who are suffering from hypochondria that it really is safe to get out from under their beds. The mask wearers are doing damage to themselves from anxiety about a cold. Perhaps if they see me unafraid of the cold, in good spirits, they can recover their confidence? This is my hope. Not wearing a mask is an act of kindness towards the mentally weak and afraid.

CAKE is a very law abiding citizen, so it bugs me that I need to break the law, in this case. Having laws that are routinely disregarded is bad for the justice system and bad for democracy.

Cindy needs to end this charade. People need to take responsibility for their own lives. If you want to wear a mask – knock yourself out – but it should not be mandated.

Thus spake CAKE.
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August 11, 2022 1:04pm
- quarterpack
  
  So the vast vast majority of the public are “mentally ill or afraid” ? While I am happy this issue seems to have given those with little else going on in their lives something to take a stance on, I think you will find the vast majority of the public are simply respectful of a private property owners right to make mask wearing a condition of entry. Do the make a difference? Depends what website your on, I found one featuring footage of real unicorns, none had masks on either
  
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  August 11, 2022 4:51pm
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    Tedious socialist.
    
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    August 11, 2022 5:37pm
- greybeard
  
  We had someone on here a year or so ago who was addicted to Illeism.
  Are you that same person ?
  
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  August 11, 2022 6:59pm
Libertarians are right

So, the media knew about Sam Uffindel before the by-election.

They chose to keep the powder dry instead of informing the electorate, allowing voters to make an informed choice. They are now trying to get him fired with no input from his constituents.

Media love talking about public interest.
Public interest would have been advising the public before the by-election.
Labour interest would be to keep it quiet until after National’s Conference.

We shouldn’t be surprised that the media acted in Labour’s interest.
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August 11, 2022 1:11pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Right on the money!
  
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  August 11, 2022 1:40pm
- alex Masterley
  
  A very interesting point LAR.
  How can we trust the media if the media keep a matter that is in the public interest out of the public eye until a time when it suits them.
  It owuld be useful to ask reporters like Coughlan why the informaiton was held back until after the election.
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:04pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Was my thought too. National should be calling them on it along with Labour.
  
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  August 11, 2022 4:15pm
I remember when

HB Today: Want to be a Hawke’s Bay Councillor? You might not even need to be voted in:
Of 27 wards across the region, only five have enough nominations to require voting.

Why bother the Labour government know better than you do.
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August 11, 2022 1:14pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Bottom of the pecking order. Govt tells Councils what they must do and Councils tell Community Boards what they must do. Then the CEO and staff do what they want anyway so who on earth wants to be an elected rep responsible to thousands of electors but with no power to do anything? That tells you the kind of people that stand.
  
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  August 11, 2022 4:21pm
Littletramp

any reason why my post at 11.50am has not yet been cleared – now 1.20pm? cheers.

[Mod: The moderators were having lunch]
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August 11, 2022 1:20pm
- Biscuit
  
  Details, Mr Mod, details!
  What did lunch entail?
  
  An oysters-four-ways entree?
  A lamb main?
  And please tell me Crème Brûlée was the dessert?
  
  I can eat Crème Brûlée till it comes out of (oh, you KNOW where it comes out…?)
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:39pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Half a dozen Bluff Oysters ($43!)
    Big slab of Tuna seared but rare in the middle
    w spinach and carrot something w chips
    5 Glasses of Rose
    I’m happy.
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:12pm
Benedict Yu

Good grief. The Government has told the NZSO that it needs to become more ‘inclusive’ 🙁

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/129475426/the-effort-to-bring-symphony-orchestra-into-the-21st-century?cid=app-iPhone

The ‘problem’ is that the NZSO employs brilliant musicians. Like the top 0.1 percent. Last time I looked all of the orchestra members are white or of chinese ethnicity. That is not surprising. If only 45 percent of Maori children attend school, not many of them will become world class violinists. In fact none will.

And this:

““One of the NZSO’s chief goals is to be a national orchestra for everyone in Aotearoa,” said Peter Biggs, the organisation’s chief executive.”

Just NO. It is impossible. Only a small minority of the population enjoy world class classical music. Yes it IS ‘elitist’. That is not a flaw. It is meant to be that way.
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August 11, 2022 1:24pm
- Ghost
  
  I agree with making some things more inclusive. For example the labour party needs to look at being more inclusive and selecting candidates who are intelligent, have experience in the real world, know how to physically look after themselves.
  
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  August 11, 2022 1:28pm
- H. Upmann
  
  BY: you are not reading between the CE’s lines.
  
  NZSO will shortly include hip-hop and rap pieces in their repertoire.
  
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  August 11, 2022 1:32pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    That is not impossible. Of course it will cause all the musicians to leave, and that will be the end of the NZSO. Literally, all of the musicians have international experience and the younger ones would be snapped up by overseas orchestras.
    
    I keep saying ‘everything the government touches is wrecked’ and every day I can find a new example without trying.
    
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    August 11, 2022 1:53pm
- kipper
  
  Labour’s goal: mediocrity from top to bottom. Lord, how I detest them.
  
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  August 11, 2022 3:04pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  C’mon Biggsy! You know better than that.
  
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  August 11, 2022 6:17pm
- mandk
  
  All the NZSO needs to do is ask Hilary Hahn to identify as trans or gay when she plays Auckland at the end of the month and they will be sorted.
  
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  August 11, 2022 7:32pm
vand

So many logs in so many eyes
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August 11, 2022 1:54pm
thirteenstars

TDS sufferer after raid on Trump home:

Trump must be arrested for “…this many provable criminal acts.”

Then he was asked an apparently very awkward question:

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1557494241856831489
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August 11, 2022 2:00pm
- Batman
  
  File him in the same camp as those saying democrats should go to Gitmo or be charged with treason.
  
  They’re all suffering from terrible cases of the various derangement syndromes.
  
  Hopefully one day medical science will find a cure (which won’t be accepted by the anti-science crowd).
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:41pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    I see the warrant wasn’t released to Trump’s lawyers AND his lawyer was kicked off the property AND they asked for the surveillance video to be turned off.
    
    It’s looking pretty bad right now.
    
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    August 11, 2022 3:56pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      FBI left a plant. A prickly cactus.
      Hey, where is Hillary?
      
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      August 11, 2022 4:54pm
mogg

Horizon poll showing Māori Party as ‘kingmaker’.
Dom Post print edition have got it on the front page.
Only problem being it’s the Micky Mouse internet poll which means next to nothing. For them it’s desperate needs need desperate deeds. Idiots!.
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August 11, 2022 2:08pm
Maggie Pie

Just home from a shopping excursion to Newmarket with my partner’s mum.

We were wondering if it’s just peculiar to suburbs like Remmers….OR, are all Asian drivers actually color-blind?

Whenever you’re following behind one, they all seem to think that an Amber light is a signal to slow-down and stop.

SHEESH!!
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August 11, 2022 2:23pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  Sit near the back of the bus instead of behind the driver then you won’t be able to see the traffic light colour.
  
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  August 11, 2022 2:46pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    As my Nan used to say Rosco….the worst part of being successful is trying to find someone who is happy for you.
    
    BTW… milkey got his lazy arse of bed yet? 😀
    
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    August 11, 2022 3:06pm
    - MCōs
      
      I wouldn’t say that at all.
      It just depends what you mean by success.
      
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      August 11, 2022 3:20pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        I’m happy for you Cossie 😀
        
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        August 11, 2022 4:13pm
      - MCōs
        
        I had a cousin who was a successful local businessman.
        Maybe his family wasn’t happy with the degree of recognition he was given in his lifetime because it’s pointed out on his tombstone.
        True story.
        
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        August 11, 2022 5:30pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      My “favourite” is the local sign that warns a 50km/h zone 400m ahead and the zombies all hit their brakes.
      
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      August 11, 2022 4:13pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, years ago we used to regard Remuera shopping centre as an obstacle course because of erratic and sometimes dangerous driving. Why Asians at the time were blamed is beyond me as very few lived in Remmers.
  
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  August 11, 2022 3:00pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Not the same today of course Inny….. John Key saw to that.
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:40pm
  - MCōs
    
    Remuera is 27% Asian
    
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    August 11, 2022 4:49pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      And growing!
      
      Are Thai people considered ‘Asian’, cossie?
      
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      August 11, 2022 4:55pm
      - MCōs
        
        Of course, but in NZ we have a different view of these things than our colonial masters.
        The English consider Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis to be Asian and those beyond Orientals.
        
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        August 11, 2022 5:21pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        That’s an interesting distinction. Does “wogs begin at Calais” no longer apply?
        
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        August 11, 2022 6:50pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Amber = get ready to stop.
  Red = stop if you can. (so my Sister says. She lives in Christchurch – look out)
  
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  August 11, 2022 4:59pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I’ve got some bad news for you, Maggie. An orange light does indeed mean stop.
  
  You might want to brush up on your Road Code.
  
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  August 11, 2022 6:19pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wots a road code? Us Class 5 drivers would not have a clue as how easy it is to get on the road
    
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    August 11, 2022 6:32pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Wrong. That would cause nose to tail accidents if implemented. It is designed to avoid those by allowing drivers to cross the intersection safely if they are too close to stop.
    
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    August 11, 2022 7:34pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  “Whenever you’re following behind one, they all seem to think that an Amber light is a signal to slow-down and stop.”
  
  Stop being a racist dick.
  
  An Amber light IS a signal to slow-down and stop.
  
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  August 11, 2022 7:07pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    No, it means stop if you can safely. If you are too far into the intersection to stop then it gives you time to proceed through it before the red.
    
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    August 11, 2022 7:29pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes I am aware. Do not defend her.
      
      “We were wondering if it’s just peculiar to suburbs like Remmers….OR, are all Asian drivers actually color-blind?”
      
      Are all white driver meth heads?
      
      Some of her comments are amusing but she is increasingly coming across as a racist entitled woman.
      
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      August 11, 2022 7:48pm
      - James Stephenson
        
        That wooshing noise you hear, is the joke going over your head.
        
        “Are all Asian drivers color blind…?” followed by a description of correct driving behaviour. Rewind and consider who is actually the target of this joke.
        
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        August 11, 2022 9:24pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “No, it means stop if you can safely. If you are too far into the intersection to stop then it gives you time to proceed through it before the red.”
      
      Since I arrived in New Zealand I have covered more than 200,000 km, literally from the bottom of the country to the top. I know what an orange light means.
      
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      August 11, 2022 7:50pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    OH, so I’m a ‘racist-dick’ now am I?
    That’s rich coming from Yu Bene!
    
    What I am, is a white, blonde, heterosexual conservative New Zealand woman. I eat meat, drink Champagne and say it like it is. Will I ever be welcome in my own country. I’m proud to be me and I won’t change for ANYONE.
    
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    August 11, 2022 7:56pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes you are. I “eat meat, drink Champagne and say it like it is.” That is not privilege of white woman. Not all Chinese drivers are bad. I get run off the road by white meth head drivers.
      
      Apologise!!!
      
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      August 11, 2022 8:04pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Life’s too short for all this sort of carry-0n Bene. Let’s be friends 😀
        
        And to be honest, one of my tennis besties is Chinese. Lives in a fab home in Arney Rd. They got out of Honkers with millions b4 it all turned to shit. She’s even trying to dye her hair blonde.
        
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        August 11, 2022 8:21pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No. I ask you to withdraw and apologise. If not, I will no longer contribute comments to Kiwiblog, and I will publish why I have done so.
        
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        August 11, 2022 8:31pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Now you’re just being silly Bene. Nitey nite 😀
        
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        August 11, 2022 8:35pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No. We are done.
        
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        August 11, 2022 8:46pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Just to repeat …
  
  unless you withdraw and apologise, I am done with Kiwiblog. I am not prepared to share a platform with someone who makes such racist statements. From her white tennis club. You are a scourge on this blog. I have no idea why you are tolerated. However, for now, I depart.
  
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  August 11, 2022 9:08pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Come on Ben, don’t let a silly little partner of a rich prick piss you off so much.
    We value your comments on here, and hers, not so much.
    cheers, The Captain.
    
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    August 11, 2022 9:28pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      WOW…what a two faced ol prick you turned out to be Cap 🙁
      
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      August 12, 2022 7:47am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Benedict may not see this, but BY: Maggie is pretty plainly a parody account & akin to Dame Edna Everidge.
    Sometimes funny, sometimes boorish, but like Dame Edna offending Salma Hayek by asking, “Why learn Spanish? I don’t need to talk to my gardener.”; there is not much point demanding apologies or getting mad – that is tilting at windmills.
    
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    August 12, 2022 10:22am
kingerstinger

This is a real test of Luxon’s leadership, and, so far, so good. I watched the live standup in Te Awamutu and he was clear, concise, confident. Didn’t take any shit from the journalists, laid out the plan, stuck to it.

I take the shrill of the media and the left as great comfort – they are worried about Luxon like they haven’t been worried by anyone since Key.
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August 11, 2022 3:03pm
- mandk
  
  Luxon shouldn’t take any shit from journalists.
  
  He should take command and tell them what questions they should be asking.
  
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  August 11, 2022 7:29pm
Hugh Jarse

It’s amazing how the left get all bitter and twisted about the right supposedly buying influence with party donations up to $15,000 but can’t be see the irony of their own left government spending $55M buying influence with the media.
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August 11, 2022 4:35pm
Warren

And another Poll favors National even though it is a Talbot Mills Poll instigated by Labour.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/national-and-labour-deadlock-new-poll-shows-one-point-margin/BKRN6QAVNBSBCE7P6JLMVT6AVI/
No wonder dirty politics are rife a the moment , Labour must be spewing at Poll after Poll telling them the Country want rid of them and there Lying Leaders Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson interesting times ahead for Chris Luxon and his need for National MP’s to focus on doing there job and not give Labour a chance to persuade the voter back to there side.
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August 11, 2022 4:35pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  It’s got to the point where Labour Twitterati actually seem to be taking great comfort from the Horizon Poll…
  
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  August 11, 2022 5:49pm
- Ghost
  
  I did a Talbot Mills Survey not long ago, I’m thinking of taking screenshots of the next one, a lot of questions in it are very leading and written in ways that you have no option but to give favourable answers to labour.
  
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  August 11, 2022 7:22pm
Alan Wilkinson

Interesting that the Democrat/Republican poll support has swung back to 50:50 since Roe vs Wade and despite Biden’s obvious deterioration. The Republican anti-abortion extremists may have shot themselves in the foot.
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August 11, 2022 4:58pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Dog that caught the car.
  But not to worry, there is always another front in the culture wars:
  https://www.ala.org/news/press-releases/2022/06/ALA-condemns-VA-legal-action-censorship
  
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  August 11, 2022 6:45pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  In Oregon, the seat held by retiring Rep. Peter DeFazio sees Val Hoyle(D) leading Alek Skarlatos (D) 46% to 41%, with 13% undecided.
  
  Skarlatos is one of the Yank tourists who took out a terrorist on a Paris-bound train a few years ago.
  
  He’s running in a district where Biden is 16-points underwater.
  
  I have to laugh at the grasping-for-straws-social-issues-will-save-us rhetoric of the Democrats as we head into the Mid-Terms.
  
  [Mod. note: Alek Skarlatos is (R).]
  
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  August 11, 2022 8:15pm
CAKE FACE1

What Mr Uffindell did as a sixteen year old is terrible.

Nonetheless, the CAKE take is that the pile-on by the team of $55 million against Mr Uffindell now amounts to bullying.

They should stop.
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August 11, 2022 5:35pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Referring to yourself in the third person is the real crime here.
  
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  August 11, 2022 6:42pm
  - mandk
    
    If people want it to be known that their pronouns are she/her or he/his etc (i.e. in the third person), CAKE FACE is entitled to refer to him/herself that way.
    
    Surely you would respect that, wouldn’t you, mma?
    
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    August 11, 2022 7:26pm
  - graham
    
    If that is the biggest issue you have to worry about, mikenmildagain, you are indeed a fortunate individual.
    
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    August 11, 2022 8:10pm
CAKE FACE1

The CAKE take is that socialism is the real crime…
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August 11, 2022 6:50pm
greybeard

20 years after going to Dunedin as a student some person complains about harrassment.

Some years after being dropped as NZ Cricket captain some ex-player complains about possible racism.

What next?
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August 11, 2022 6:57pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Who would buy that book? I knew nothing about cricket until I got here, but I have taken an interest. The Tall Red Head is a great fan.
  
  From what I can gather he was a great player but a less than stellar captain. Maybe he was treated unkindly. Tough things happen in professional sport.
  
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  August 11, 2022 7:03pm
info@cruzpro.com

Front page of the Whangarei Leader newspaper has an article about Shane Reti asking for meningitis vaccines to be free.

Every other paragraph is in the Maori language.

What a waste of trees!
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August 11, 2022 7:10pm
info@cruzpro.com

I fear that something really bad is happening in China.

We regularly purchase products from China, usually plastics or computer bits.

Lately we’ve been receiving lots of faulty/fake parts. A request for quotation on Alibaba that normally results in a half dozen response is currently getting 40 to 50 responses with quoted prices alll over the place.

We’re also receiving a lot more telephone calls from these vendors.

I can only assume that these poor people are very, very hungry or desperate.
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August 11, 2022 7:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Labour blocking an enquiry into the economics of their Covid response

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/covid-19-political-parties-come-together-to-demand-answers-on-government-s-economic-response.html
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