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Jim

Safe and Effective?

(I feel the need to preface this post: I am not anti-vaccine, I’ve had more vaccines than most people in my lifetime, and I’ve had the mandated 2 shots of Comirnaty).

The NZ Government’s parroted narrative (relating to Pfizer Comirnaty) saying ‘the vaccine is safe and effective’ is becoming ever more questionable as international data continues to indicate dubious effectiveness for most cohorts, but more concerning, an unprecedented number of serious vaccine harm injuries is gathering pace.

Here’s a link to one recent UK news report interviewing an ex-NHS pathologist in discussing the German Government’s own Health Ministry study on covid vaccine serious harms.

This short 7 minute interview should be of interest to 95% of Kiwis, particularly the young fit and healthy who are considering getting multiple boosters, and also those who have healthy children and grandchildren.

https://youtu.be/YISflrh9LVA

Considering the reporting an Adverse Event Following Immunisation is not a MoH mandated requirement in NZ, it’s somewhat alarming that NZ data is similar if arguably much worse than the German Government’s own findings.

To break it down Medsafe received 1 AEFI report for every 175 doses. Furthermore Medsafe accepts that 1 in 3225 doses is further reclassified as an AESI or Adverse Event of Special Interest ( i.e. also referred to as SERIOUS on Medsafe’s website).

Here is Medsafe’s own data (link supplied below) states:
Comirnaty: Up to 30 June 2022 a total of 11,133,437 doses of Comirnaty have been administered and 62,937 (Adverse Event Following Immunisation) AEFIs were reported. This means that more than 11.07 million doses of Comirnaty were administered that did not result in a report of an adverse event. On average for every 10,000 people who are vaccinated 57 people report an AEFI. It is also important to keep in mind that a report can be submitted for any cause and is not necessarily associated with the vaccine.
https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-44.asp#defs
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August 3, 2022 8:06am
- krazykiwi
  
  This is the greatest and most malicious medical misadventure in the history of planet earth. Our ‘leaders’ are so donkey deep in all this – either intentionally at their master’s demands, or naively bumbling along without thinking – that their only move now is to double down until scapegoats can be found and publicly hung.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:14am
  - Paulus
    
    krazykiwi
    What would you have done ?
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:16am
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      The leaders in Sweden quickly figured out what to do. There were no mask mandates, nationwide lockdowns, school closures, etc. The Swedish government made suggestions on how to to limit spread but did not force these on their citizens.
      
      The Swedish population statistically did no better or worse in the end but limited damage their economy and didn’t instill fear into the population to the same extent as many countries.
      
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      August 3, 2022 9:54am
      - riffer
        
        19,325 dead though.
        In New Zealand it’s 2,274
        
        So, about 4 and a half times more dead than here.
        
        source: worldometer
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:37pm
      - info@cruzpro.com
        
        @riffer: For some reason I can’t reply to your comment. You appear to be right and I thank you for correcting my comment.
        
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        August 3, 2022 5:42pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Can we have our money back?
        
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        August 3, 2022 7:07pm
    - Zero Kindness
      
      Perhaps adhered to existing pandemic preparedness response policy – along the lines of The Great Barrington Declaration. Simple really.
      We knew from the Diamond Princess analysis that Covid-19 was no spanish flu, rather a (manufactured, thanks Fauci) bad flu season and we should have treated it as such.
      
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      August 3, 2022 9:59am
    - Jim
      
      Paulus, the NZ Gov initial border lockdown was a prudent precaution based upon our geographic location. However ever since that moment NZ bought valuable time to analyse the diverse data streams from all over the world in order to measure effectiveness of quite different measures.
      
      However that time seems to have been truly squandered time and again, even down to the Omicron/RAT debacle, and now much emerging evidence that the vaccine is not effective, wears off after 1-3 months and so offers an unreasonable risk/benefit profile for many (fit healthy and younger) cohorts.
      
      KK is right, the government is just doubling down to spin its way out of this situation. By example our much maligned unvaccinated doctors and nurses should get their jobs back (with an apology).
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:10am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Paulus – we had a pandemic preparedness plan in place for many years, as almost all western countries did. We had ours since 2002. It was updated in 2017. It was abandoned in late 2019. Nobody knows why.
      
      https://www.health.govt.nz/publication/new-zealand-influenza-pandemic-plan-framework-action
      
      There is absolutely no mention of “lockdown” anywhere. For obvious reasons, they don’t work. And until this circus began they had never been recommended. In fact the WHO recommended against them initially.
      
      It recommends staying home when you’re ill. (Duh) and protecting the most vulnerable.
      Protecting the most vulnerable doesn’t mean taking the elderly and sticking them all in the same building. There is only ever going to be one outcome of that.
      It recommends avoiding large crowds if possible.
      
      Nowhere does it recommend shutting down the whole country and destroying the economy, businesses and lives. The only time it mentions masks is in the healthcare sector and it is recommendations, not mandates.
      
      They are all common sense measures that most of us do instinctively during flu season.
      
      NOWHERE is there any mention of changing the law, forcing social distancing, forcing people to vaccinate, forcing people to wear masks.
      
      If you want to know what should have been done you can do no better than check out the “Great Barrington Declaration”.
      
      https://gbdeclaration.org/focused-protection/
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:20am
      - CSadler
        
        I am a simple soul:
        
        1. If masks were an effective barrier/protection against viral infections why haven’t health proffessionals been wearing them (at least over the flu season) forever?
        
        2. If vaccinations were able to be developed so rapidly against a coronavirus what have the vaccine developers been doing for the last few decades?
        
        3. If we don’t need 3-5 years of testing to gain comfort on the safety of new medication developed why have we previously taken this time?
        
        4. Why are we not setting out to gather the requisite information on vaccine side effects? I have personally witnessed a reaction and its aftermath and it was apparent that a decision has been taken by the medical fraternity not to gather any data/information that might build our knowledge.
        
        5. Why did we bet everything on a prevention rather than investing in treatment and cure? This is an irrational, high risk approach to a problem. Options always have value.
        
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        August 3, 2022 11:24am
      - Sacha
        
        And for a thought-provoking analysis could I suggest that this article will do the job:
        https://brownstone.org/author/joshua-styles/
        
        They thought they were free”
        In it Joshua Styles discusses how the Germans succumbed to the Nazi and draws parallels with the way the world has dealt with the covid situation. There are direct quotes from German citizens who lived through the holocaust, in un-knowing obedience to government dictates. It is quite a long read, and it made me sad. I was 10 when the WW2 ended, and I remember many things about the Nazi regime .
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:18pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        CSadler,
        Those questions need to be put to the Minister of Health, or Andrew Little
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:27pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        One for Seymour to raise in the House:
        
        Why did Jacinda not follow the National Pandemic Plan?
        
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        August 3, 2022 7:12pm
    - Megatron
      
      Put them up against the wall.
      
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      August 3, 2022 7:02pm
  - David Garrett
    
    krazy: I’m sure you’ve heard the one about when it is a choice between conspiracy or a cock up, the latter is almost always the explanation.
    
    Maybe I am being too kind, but I think they have all been “bumbling along” since the beginning…the best example is Bloomfield originally saying “Wear a mask if you want to; it won’t do much good” which soon morphed into “masks save lives”
    
    Remember the “deep cleans” supposedly undertaken in the early stages when a contact had been at a supermarket? And theories about transmitting it on lift buttons…then they decided it wasn’t transmitted by touch at all.
    
    They have literally been making it up as they go along – which I wouldn’t mind so much if they said “we got X wrong…after further study, our advice now is…”
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:55am
    - David Garrett
      
      …But instead they never once said ”we got that wrong”…remember how long it took to get them to classify deaths as WITH Covid rather than of it? And how long it took to release age data, which pretty much confirms that if you are an old fat bastard with emphysema or diabetes you’ve got a problem – but if you are a well 12 year old with no other conditions the vaccine is more of a risk than the disease.
      
      All of that information had to be dragged out of them.
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:08am
      - Clownworld
        
        David agree with your observations however regarding did they just bumble along or were they deliberately doing what they did is still up for rational debate.
        
        I propose though that a third explanation is currently an alternative possibility and is becoming a more probable explanation as time goes by.
        
        What if it was planned incompetence?
        
        A psychological experiment as such.
        
        What if already bumbling non-critical leaders were bribed, cajoled, coerced or simply led by panic , fear, fomo and followed the latest current thing?
        
        Incompetence follows and yet we are human, people err and yet the big picture things have a globalist planned stench about it.
        
        Follow the money. Who benefits?
        What has changed?
        Why are there so many distractions?
        
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        August 3, 2022 10:26am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        The govt were faced with some equivocal info, and in almost all cases adopted the interpretation/policy that would best suit their political agendas – keep them in the limelight, maintain appearance that they were maximally concerned about the Current Thing™. Covid political monomania, where no cost was too high to save a life from covid, but all downsides of policies in form of health, psychological, social, economic, human rights and other costs were ignored by (typically intellectually superficial) govt. Cost benefits and real world effectiveness were ignored in favour of political and organizational expediency.
        
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        August 3, 2022 11:27am
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        The main reasons we know it has been a malicious coordinated conspiracy and not an accidental “cock-up” is the myopic, near-universal strategy that has been unwavering despite all accumulated evidence showing that it was the wrong strategy, as well as the outright hostility towards anyone who went off script: censoring dissenting views that were later proven and admitted to be correct; demonisation, ostracism and scapegoating of non-compliance, particularly re: vaccination. It has been a totalising, authoritarian psychological campaign with no room whatsoever for divergent behaviours or viewpoints. In other words, the very definition of unscientific.
        
        However, on the alternative, less-troubling hypothesis that Covid has instead been an unprecedented global-scale cock-up by our leaders and their “experts,” then this entails that we have no reason at all to ever accept and act upon the advice of these “experts” ever again, because they are wholly without credibility.
        
        Regardless and fundamentally, whichever alternative interpretation we prefer (i.e. official malice or official incompetence), either option at once discredits anyone who has ever formulated, promulgated or accepted the official proclamations or predictions.
        
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        August 3, 2022 1:16pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Clown, stop making sense!
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:31pm
      - Jim
        
        Oh dear David, it looks more like a deliberate act now.
        
        https://youtu.be/SEqOUxiPJBc
        
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        August 3, 2022 7:37pm
      - Bluegrass
        
        Yes indeed.
        
        But why?
        
        [A topic for a whole new blog].
        
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        August 3, 2022 10:00pm
    - Jim
      
      Understood David, personally I accept the truth is somewhere in between.
      
      However in the absence of good old critical thinking and independent investigative journalism, I hasten to point out that we can’t overlook the fact that NZ Government followed the WHO dogma, and that UN derived organisation receives significant annual funding from pro vaccine foundations and corporations.
      
      As does the CDC and FDA etc
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:22am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      DG – I hope you are right, but I don’t think so. I’ve posted a couple of times that Ardern is a UN/WEF shill and she is more interested in doing what they want than what is best for NZ.
      She may not fully understand what she was doing, but as you point out, at some point it was clear that it was wrong. Not only will she not admit it and apologise, she is doubling down. That is malfeasance.
      Don’t start me on the “experts”. They don’t have the excuse of being stupid.
      
      I’d better go, I’ve got some hydraulic fracking to do……..;)
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:23am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Jaspinda knew what she was doing 2009 and before.
        Would you like to see the YouTube video again?
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:38pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at those initial Cabinet meeting.
        In my wildest dreams I can see the Jacinda doing a Muldoon and bullying everyone to go along with him.
        
        So did she sweet talk them all to agreeing with her?
        Or did a couple of strongly opinionated members convince them all to take whatever action.
        
        I just cant see “”her with the teeth”” carrying the day. She is too busy trying to be popular.
        
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        August 3, 2022 7:46pm
    - Scott
      
      David, I’m going out on a limb and saying “conspiracy”. This government is headed by the former president of the young socialists.
      
      Covid gave her the opportunity to lock everyone down, take command of the economy, increase the power of the state and tell everyone what to do. Including mandatory vaccination.
      
      Draconian control over the lives of the citizens is a feature, not a bug, of socialist governance.
      In her heart the prime minister dreams of Venezuela. That’s where she’s taking us.
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:45am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Venezuela, but I just can’t comprehend why
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:39pm
    - mawm
      
      David – Bloomfield’s comment about learning as we go along is particularly galling. That is exactly why there are well thought out pandemic plans. Every single recommendation they made that does not fit in with those plans has been ineffective or worse.
      
      Clan questions why they were abandoned and by whom – it was the WHO that started recommending the measures taken – on advice from Fauci, Birx and Dr Gates. Probably mainly the latter.
      
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      August 3, 2022 11:13am
      - David Garrett
        
        Where did Bloomfield ever say we were “learning as we go along”?? I must have missed that.
        
        As for “Dr Gates”…please tell my you don’t think all of this mess is Bill’s doing…
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:50pm
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        Claims of a “single source of truth” cannot logically coexist with concessions of “learning as well go along,” because the latter is to accept fallibility, whereas the former allows no room for error. If you set yourself up as omniscient, then anything less destroys credibility. Learning as we go and acting in good faith (while entertaining conflicting viewpoints) is the essence of science, whereas single sources of truth are dogmatic totalitarianism.
        
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        August 3, 2022 3:11pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Mortal panic + a pack of unqualified and idealistic muppets in charge = fustercluck.
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:49pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  In case you missed it, Medsafe have the information that there are plenty of potential harms from the jab. This was data supplied by Pfizer. So it’s there, in the public domain. Only 7 pages so take your time and read it. It is easy to understand.
  I have posted this link before and don’t apologise for doing so again. Everyone needs to see this and share it widely.
  
  https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/Comirnaty-RMP.pdf
  
  Start at page 3 for the list of “Important risks and missing information”. If you’re finding it interesting, get to the part about:
  
  “Missing information: Use in pregnancy and while breast feeding”
  
  Then read this.
  
  https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/miscarriages-and-a-medical-conspiracy-of-silence/
  
  I haven’t had any jabs, but I would ask one question. Of those of you who were conned, bribed or bullied (or volunteered) to take this experimental medication – did ANY of you get told any of this when lining up for the shot?
  Because if you weren’t informed of everything that was in that document published on the Medsafe website, you did not have “informed consent”.
  
  You were tricked into taking the shot. It is medical malfeasance and the consequences of what has been imposed on us have been and will continue to be horrendous for decades.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:37am
  - Charmaine Hawke
    
    Neither myself nor my teenager were given any information or asked to sign anything when getting the jabs, In fact I should have been turned down based on my questions and statement I was only there because I was coerced.
    I am too old to have any more kids but I do worry every day what I allowed my child to do and could it impact on her fertility?
    To say I am angry with this government/public “health” department is an understatement.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:09am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Charmaine – it has been a horrible period of time and still continuing. We were never told about any potential risks. Everyone I know who got it told me how they were repeatedly comforted and told
      of course it is safe”.
      The negative impacts, though substantial relative to other medical risks still favour you and your daughter being fine. But you should never have been put at this increased level of risk.
      
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      August 3, 2022 11:06am
      - mawm
        
        When a politician tells you something is safe and effective, then bans early treatment and antibody testing, and then tells you they are the sole source of truth – you know you are being lied to.
        
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        August 3, 2022 11:16am
- Jim
  
  Ahhh the next day after initial post Dr John Campbell reports on the same German Government Study. This is presented in an easy format to consume, even for those who work at Medsafe, who should be aware NZ vaccine harms are statistically worse than in Germany.
  
  https://youtu.be/XlGXFRs4ZOA
  
  Whilst watching consider that Medsafe classifies 1 in 3225 doses as an AESI or Adverse Event of Special Interest ( i.e. also defined as SERIOUS on Medsafe’s website).
  
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  August 4, 2022 5:23am
krazykiwi

Mrs kk and I have recently arrived in the UK. The Emirates mask theatre was pretty much a non-event, and over three sectors only once was I reminded of the ‘Wear your mask to protect everyone from the plague’ policy. Even then the staff member was apologetic, “just doing what the airline requires”, and couldn’t wait until she no longer forced to wear masks. Which I learned was 100% of the time when on crew rest, ie away from the public.

I have not arrived or departed via Gatwick for over two decades and I can confirm that precisely nothing has been done to the airport facilities in the intervening years. It feels 3rd world, but our luggage miraculously appeared so the chaos, biohazard toilets and pay-to-use luggage trolleys were quickly forgotten.

After 3 days about in east London I have seen ZERO persons wearing a mask. These face diapers, the medically unsupported symbols of fear are nowhere to be seen. Good job. New Zealand will get there eventually. The sooner the better.

The other experience I had today was a routine one: going supermarket shopping. What a surprise. Almost everything is routinely cheaper here than New Zealand, with some items close to half the NZ equivalent prices. Some examples: 1kg tasty cheese $NZ11.50. For two litres of milk, the median price is $NZ4.10. Large punnet of blueberries $NZ3.20, and this is all year round. We loaded up two bags with fruit, vegetables and other consumables and paid $NZ65. This was a chain supermarket. Produce is cheaper still at the weekend markets.

For our daughter and son-in-law (both corporate lawyers) this relatively low cost of groceries looked to be getting momentarily cheaper after Ardern sent them an email promising to gift them some ‘cost of living’ money. Lovely, but neither of them will be accepting this generous offer, one paid for (but not made by) taxpayers back home who are struggling to pay for food, rent and fuel.

Oh, and the freshly minted grandson is pretty cute too. He smiles more at mrs kk than he does at me, but he’ll come around in time 🙂
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August 3, 2022 8:07am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Krazykiwi, your observant posts on this Blog are appreciated.
  We will wait for your future travellers’ tales over the next few weeks. Like, something we won’t read elsewhere.
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:35am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    On the ground observations have never been so important. What we are fed in NZ is no different to North Korea in the level of restriction and controlled narrative. I never thought I would ever see the day I would be making a statement like that, but it is where we are at.
    
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    August 3, 2022 8:45am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Correct.
      
      There is a real desire to keep the negative news from the public. Notice how the health crisis, crime crisis and housing crisis have disappeared from the major MSM replaced by “OurGloriousLeader” on her WokeWorldTour.
      
      It also shows just how naive a third of the population is.
      
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      August 3, 2022 9:36am
      - Batman
        
        That’s weird, I keep seeing health, crime and housing stories on the news practically every night without fail.
        
        Are you in the camp that is boycotting the msm? Could be a link there.
        
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        August 3, 2022 10:23am
      - Frank the tank
        
        Good to see you are back Bat.
        
        Meh – when the wife has it on I take a passing interest until “Our Glorious leader” comes on and the Tourette’s start.
        
        Given the state of all those institutions you would think there would be stories 24-7 highlighting their perilous state. You would also think that those great investigative journalists Gower, Campbell and Gilles would be doing exposes and deep dives into it but no they aren’t.
        
        If National/Act were in power they would be.
        
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        August 3, 2022 10:57am
      - Batman
        
        Taking a break from blogs is a well recommended activity!
        
        Fair enough, but I find it amusing that some of those who protest about the msm also claim to not engage with it. Which would explain why they don’t see anything!
        
        I note you have refined the criteria a bit and yes I’d be inclined to agree. But I still do see the regular journos doing stories on it. Just today, Dileepa Fonseka has a piece on housing that is not exactly holding back
        
        And dare I say it, Katie from 1News has been doing a good line of business and housing stories which are very unsparing of the government.
        
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        August 3, 2022 11:03am
      - Pineapple Lumps
        
        Is a bat living under a bridge really a Batman?
        
        You can deny the bias Battyboy. But methinks you protest too much. Independent analysis shows 13 of top 15 NZ media sources are left wing extremist (put the extremist nuance on that because always tacked onto right wing + white supremiscist etc). And generally all are heavily biased. Website here:
        
        https://mediabias.co.nz/
        
        So as you are clearly not dumb, you are grinding your leftist axe. Claim libertarian values all you want, but you are the one pushing the unbiased media narrative.
        
        Now, as per usual why don’t you not moderate my response until tomorrow And the downtick away before anyone else gets to see it.
        
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        August 3, 2022 7:00pm
- Cinematic
  
  I’m not long back from the UK too. Surreal coming back to the land of mask zombies.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Labour voters/
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:53am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Unfortunately no some former National voters as well.
      
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      August 3, 2022 11:49am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        They are the slow learners, let’s speed them up
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:59pm
  - Clownworld
    
    Am overseas in Europe a few masks but 1% at most. Is NZ still wearing masks more than 5%?
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:30am
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      Government ramped up psych attacks – schools recommended to wear masks for first 4 weeks of term 3. Kids being mind controlled while most adults over the circus but too gutless to stand up for the truely vulnerable- their kids.
      
      It will end but not soon enough as the circus master isn’t wanting the show to end. Still high percentages wearing in Auckland supermarkets. Many on here voicing opposition but when I am out and about it’s the minority going mask less. Come on NZ grow a pair!
      
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      August 3, 2022 7:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Take many photos. They grow so fast. You don’t see it when you are with them, but in years to come you will.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:52am
  - David Garrett
    
    Steve O: Aint that just the truth? I have recently had a bunch of old video tapes put on a flash drive…simply magic seeing my now hugely elegant 21 year old daughter tearing off the wrapping paper at Christmas…and my son constantly needing to be told to leave his willy alone!! (At age three or something)
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:16am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      My partner went to the UD a few times when she was young. Her Mum always took slide rather than 35mm film. Back in the low 70s.
      We still have those slides.
      My family, not so much, we lived in the sticks out the back of Te Kowhai
      
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      August 3, 2022 3:08pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Jesus! These typos. US* not UD
        
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        August 3, 2022 3:09pm
- Observer of Life
  
  KK: Keep these insights coming.. way more interesting than anything we’ll read here in the MSM.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:59am
- MCōs
  
  I happened to buy to two litres milk at local supermarket $3.79
  How much is the WeetBix?
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:10am
  - Clownworld
    
    1 Euro for a litre of milk here and locals complain it’s 10% more expensive….
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:31am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I said ‘median’ price. There were multiple brands. The per 2 litre price of the lowest price milk (sold in approx 2.2 litre containers) was $NZ2.52
    
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    August 3, 2022 7:11pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    So your misses has done the shopping since 2003. Well done Cossie!
    
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    August 3, 2022 7:12pm
- GJM
  
  Tell the kids to,take the money and send it to you. Think of it as a tax refund. I assume are or were a net taxpayer
  
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  August 3, 2022 7:45pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGumxj9Nm5M
Tucker Carlson Humiliates Pelosi on Taiwan Trip.

Also strange that it is the State Dept. that is supposed to deal with foreign issues…… so why is Nancy (the speaker of the house) going on these “state” visits?
[I don’t think China’s ‘red line’ means much. I’d be at least as surprised as Nancy Pelosi if her plane was shot down.13:57]
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August 3, 2022 8:11am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She is the speaker, she is stepping into Sleepy Joes work
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:05am
  - Paulus
    
    Pelosi needs her party Votes at the November elections in the US as Biden falters.
    
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    August 3, 2022 1:17pm
- Batman
  
  A GOP group visited last year.
  
  Newt Gingrich visited when he was Speaker.
  
  You gotta remember that it is three “co-equal” branches of government. The Speaker can do as she or he pleases, really.
  
  Good on her for flipping the bird to the Totalitarianist Commies. She’s probably retiring soon so has gone full YOLO.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:06am
  - Frank the tank
    
    You are correct there Bat. If the tables were turned I could see McCarthy visiting and the Old Coot’s minders frothing and foaming. Pure politics.
    
    Pelosi doing what all career troughers do when it comes to the end – go on tax-payer funded trips.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:41am
    - Batman
      
      Pelosi has long been a Taiwan supporter and anti-Chinesr expansionism (despite what partisans may claim) so it isn’t a surprise she is going there while visiting multiple Asian destinations.
      
      And yes, it’s the summer break and the Congressional junkets are out in force!
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:30am
      - RoboRob
        
        I am also sure that a pro Taiwan and anti China stunt plays very well with much of the US population and it is an election year.
        
        I think this is good politicking but very selfish, it moves the world closer to conflict for no actual gain.
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:46pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Maybe something to do with the fact Taiwan is the number one chip supplier to the US, also hubby is due up on his DUI charge at the same time as she is showboating and doing business deals in SE Asia. That helps distract the media.
        
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        August 3, 2022 9:16pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Watch Fox last night, I thought they said Gingrich was the last member of the GOP to go there
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:21am
    - virtualmark
      
      Gingrich was the last Speaker of the House to go there. In 1997.
      
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      August 3, 2022 3:17pm
  - cjn
    
    Who will pay for this ego trip? I suspect it will be the people of Taiwan. And then the USA taxpayer and the Australian taxpayer and the New Zealand taxpayer. I can’t think of any other Pacific country willing to take on China.
    
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    August 3, 2022 6:54pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Gingrich was Leader of Republicans and went when Clinton, was Democratic President.
    ie leader of opposition went, not #3 in the administration
    Gingrich went in 1997….
    
    Do keep up Batman if you want to be taken seriously
    
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    August 3, 2022 8:41pm
- Agricola
  
  If it were anyone but Pelosi I would be cheering sticking it up the CCP and their nasty threats. I imagine that the dessicated creature is trying to deflect attention away from her and her husband’s insider trading scandal by having a shot at starting World War III. A trifle excessive, but there you go…
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:25am
  - Biscuit
    
    Ditto, Agricola.
    
    Mind, I have ‘pet hate’ politicos on both sides of the U.S. spectrum.
    
    Saw a great meme that had President Xi telling the U.S. ‘Play nice with us or we’ll let Nancy return home’…
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:50am
  - curry4me
    
    Perhaps it was just a refuelling stop for Vodka?
    
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    August 3, 2022 6:45pm
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  Word is it is to do with some semi-conductor company which she is heavily invested in. Insider trading, conflict of interest, the usual thing for the Democrats.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:43am
  - virtualmark
    
    That sounds like a Fox News conspiracy theory.
    
    Can’t see how Pelosi visiting Taiwan does anything to boost the share price of a semiconductor company.
    
    And if Pelosi was motivated by wanting to pump a Taiwanese semiconductor company then it’s hard to see why she pushed the CHiPS Act through the House …
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:22pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  All part of destroying America. Same as Jaspinda destroying NZ, but on a massive scale.
  I don’t think Pelosi realises what she is doing. Floating in her own bubble which is going to pop in a few months.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:14am
  - Paulus
    
    How many millions has Ardern just given to Samoa prior to the Auckland Mayoralty elections, and the next General Election, for their votes ?
    
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    August 3, 2022 1:19pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Steve,
    
    How does Pelosi visiting Taiwan act to destroy America? I’m all ears.
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:22pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Provoking China, there will be issues, probably trade issues. That may be sanctions or just stop certain Chinese products going to the States.
      How will America make all of those appliances they now import?
      
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      August 4, 2022 8:38am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Last “holiday” on US Air Force One?
  Get in now before Trump grounds AF1 again in 2024?
  Fuck that pissed her off big time, she has never forgiven him – such is the strong TDS
  
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  August 3, 2022 3:13pm
  - virtualmark
    
    She flies on a C-40 Clipper … basically the US military version of a Boeing 737 passenger jet. Not much luxury there.
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:23pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      2016 Pelosi was going on AF1 to Europe. A junket for friends and relatives. Trump stopped her. That fucked her off and she has never forgiven him.
      Two busloads driving in circles because they were banned from the Airbase
      
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      August 4, 2022 8:41am
- virtualmark
  
  AFAIK the GOP is all for standing up to China right. Or Chyna, as the GOP’s Orange God-King would say.
  
  But I guess they hate Pelosi more than they hate the Chinese.
  
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  August 3, 2022 3:19pm
curry4me

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/08/new-bill-takes-zuckerbucks-and-bidenbucks-daniel-greenfield/
New Bill Takes on ‘Zuckerbucks’, and ‘Bidenbucks’.
There were many things wrong with the 2020 election, but one of the biggest was the massive amounts of ‘Zuckerbucks’ used to influence the structure of elections at the local level.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan injected $350 million into over 2,500 election departments through the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative along with another $69.5 million to secretaries of state, disproportionately benefiting Democrat electorates.
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August 3, 2022 8:12am
- Loddenthinks
  
  And Little Outer-rower works itself into a lather about political donations of $5k FFS.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:23am
- kowtow
  
  Yes , this was how Time magazine said the election was “saved”.
  Hundreds of millions from the tech billionaires , and others together with a conspiracy of big business and labour unions to do the foot work .
  
  What was in it for such a strange coalition ?
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:40am
  - Batman
    
    Preventing the obviously signalled Trumpist shenanigans with claims of fraud and a false declaration of victory.
    
    Companies like stability, an attempted coup is bad for stability.
    
    Heck, even Republican party officials new that the Trump plan could appear treasonous
    
    “Arizona Officials Warned Fake Electors Plan Could ‘Appear Treasonous'” https://nyti.ms/3JoaxAm
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:33am
- Zero Kindness
  
  That is why I left Facebook. don’t miss it at all.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:54am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Free speech includes political speech and includes funding of speech. Please don’t oppose free speech just because someone is using it for something you don’t agree with. Truth needs free speech in order to prevail.
  
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  August 3, 2022 11:38am
curry4me

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/reuters-runs-cover-dementia-joe-fact-checks-funny-meme-showing-biden-distracted-ice-cream-truck-music/
Reuters ‘fact checks’ icecream truck meme.

Reuters actually ‘fact-checked’ a funny meme of Joe Biden getting distracted by ice cream truck music.
Last September Joe and Jill Biden pushed Covid vaccines at Brookland Middle School in Washington DC.
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August 3, 2022 8:12am
- Loddenthinks
  
  The meme may have been edited, but this bit is true:
  
  “Joe Biden routinely stops for ice cream while he’s out and about. Every time Joe Biden stops for ice cream he’s treated like a child by sycophantic reporters.
  
  Reporters ask more questions about the flavor of ice cream Biden ordered while ignoring real issues.”
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wonder if he pays for the ice cream? Or ice cream seller puts up a sign “POTUS Joe Biden was here”
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:17pm
Captain Mainwaring

So Auckland Mayoral candidate Viv Beck wants to open up some historic tunnels under a park and turn them into walking and cycling tracks.
Sounds like an excellent place for homeless people to take up residence and mug any hapless citizens who happen to be wandering past.
What is this woman smoking?
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August 3, 2022 8:12am
- Nickc2
  
  Is she a mate of Cannabis Chloe?
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:19am
- Tomtoddy
  
  Auckland has four centre right candidates for mayor. The left organised themselves to have only one even though the highly favoured option had to be forced out.
  
  We are going to get the government we deserve because four self centred aspirants think more of themselves than they do the needs of the city.
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:19am
  - Caine9
    
    100%
    
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    August 3, 2022 8:45am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Even worse Leo Malloy is parroting Collins policy on PT. This policy is stupid at every level and will bring chaos to PT. And our useless media are not even questioning this rubbish.
    
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    August 3, 2022 8:54am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Excuse my ignorance but what’s PT?
      
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      August 3, 2022 9:53am
      - Zero Kindness
        
        Public Transport I assume
        
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        August 3, 2022 10:01am
      - MCōs
        
        Public transport
        
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        August 3, 2022 10:12am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Surely the answer is to change the electoral system. I am not an expert on such systems but it seems crazy to have a system where you can have four candidates and someone wins with (say) 30 percent of the votes?
    
    Between local government and MMP, New Zealand seems to be encumbered by crazy electoral systems.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:35am
    - kowtow
      
      MMP was favoured by the electorate , to punish the politicians .
      
      Now, they as always ,get the last laugh.
      
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      August 3, 2022 9:42am
    - MCōs
      
      At the last Auckland mayoral election only 35% of those eligible bothered to vote. Phil Goff won 49% of votes caste.
      Back in the good old days before ACT fucked things up I would have lived in Manukau City, which has little in common with whatever North Harbour was called.
      So the mayor of the whole area seems to be determined by what the voters down this way think, which is not the future of Queen St.
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:26am
      - David Garrett
        
        MCos: Ah, No…the “supercity” was a Clark initiative which Key picked up. Rodney took a hospital pass – which included pushing that idea through – when he became Minister of Local Government… I remember him almost tearing his hair out during that process…and everyone forgets that initially, elimination of replication of roles across the supercity meant that 8,000 fewer bureaucrats were employed…but like rust, bureaucracy never sleeps, and within a few years they were all back – and more IIRC
        
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        August 3, 2022 3:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Way to go you knobs. Split the right vote 4 ways, that’s the way to do it.
    Some of us in Auckland are sick and tired of paying for leftist ideology.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:21am
  - Paulus
    
    Any Mayor whatever only hs one vote, and the Auckland Councillors are like the Government real left inclined.
    So what could a center Mayor do – sweet FA.
    
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    August 3, 2022 1:21pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    I have heard both Brown and Molloy speak at my service club. Beck is speaking to us in a fortnight and for the interests of balance we are trying to get Collins to speak to us.
    If he does show I am going to ask if he is a member of the Labour Party.
    Of the two we have had speak to us so far, Brown is ahead by a whisker.
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:28pm
Tony Stuart

Labour Party general secretary Rob Salmond sent out a missive to party members and supporters late yesterday, which began thus:

Kia ora xxxxxx

Yesterday I was incredibly proud to be a Labour Party member. I’m sure you saw the news – more than 2 million New Zealanders received $116 from the new Cost of Living payment.

xxxxxx if you were proud of this initiative too, please consider chipping in $24 today. Your contribution will help Jacinda and Labour prepare for next year’s election, so we can work towards a fairer and more equal Aotearoa.

There’s a few issues here, the first of which is accuracy. Stuff revealed yesterday that the Cost of Living payment went to 780,000 fewer people than had been forecast. That figure of course includes thousands of people who were not entitled to receive it. So Salmond’s begging letter is premised on an untruth.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/300652199/cost-of-living-payment-made-to-780000-fewer-people-than-expected

Secondly, did Labour think of the optics of this? On Monday, the taxpayer gave over a million Kiwis $116, to help them cope with the cost of living crisis. Then on Tuesday, the Labour Party asks people to give up to 20% of what they received back to the Labour Party, seemingly forgetting the source of the money, the long-suffering taxpayer. Even Bishop Tamaki only demands 10% in tithes from his flock!

But the burning question of the day is this one; will Rob Salmond accept donations from people with Chinese-sounding surnames?
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August 3, 2022 8:22am
- pdm
  
  Rob Salmond runs Labour and Ann Salmond is a prominent Green activist.
  
  Are they a couple as the old fashioned term applies?
  
  If they are is that a conflict of interest for each of them or do they share common goals?
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:29am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If you are referring to Dame Anne Salmond, then No, she is not the wife (or even the mother of Rob Salmond).
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:58am
- Nickc2
  
  In any country other than NZ, this would be called ‘Money Laundering’. Where’s the SFO?
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:32am
- Ehlana
  
  did Labour – what is that word you used after that?
  
  At least I can now understand the logic behind the payouts. We give you $116, you give us $24.
  
  If I were, as an employee, to set up such an arrangement with a supplier to my employer, I believe it would be called a kickback. And if caught, I would be fired.
  
  Now, who employs these Labour folks?
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:36am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Who employs them? The Team of 5 million
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:24am
    - Paulus
      
      As we are told that One million New Zealanders are overseas it is actually Four million sheep.
      
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      August 3, 2022 1:25pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Minus the unvaxxed, brings it down to 3.5 max.
        
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        August 3, 2022 9:31pm
  - Paulus
    
    Sounds like working in the Aussie building industry – only get a job with your Union membership cards then pay the Union Rep a cash share of your wages.
    
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    August 3, 2022 1:24pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Why are the media not calling out that post as a lie?
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:07am
Maggy Wassilieff

The amount of money to fund the Shortland Street nurse recruitment campaign is to remain secret because that’s how open and transparent gifts to publicly funded entities now work.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/shortland-st-nursing-campaign-funding-stay-secret
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August 3, 2022 8:33am
- Tony Stuart
  
  That’s an E for Execution for Jacinda Ardern’s aspiration to lead the most open and transparent government New Zealand has ever seen!
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:05am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  This needs to be bought into the open, because Little tried to say on Monday morning that Shortland st would not receive a cent for this
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:08am
- Harry Knuts
  
  so lets re-frame shortland street. Govt funded business advertising how great it is to be a nurse in NZ. This will be interesting how jacked up the actors fake the real rewards of being a nurse here. We’ve gone to the dogs.
  meanwhile… people are still living in motels as their interim housing, child poverty is at an even lower point than ever and kids are leaving school by the droves and into a life of crime as they have no job prospects as they are mostly uneducated.
  As much as Cindy dislikes authoritarian states she sure is following in their same footsteps.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:23am
- Ghost
  
  Shorty has been pushing anti government stories for a few weeks now, government doesn’t fund ambulances, nurses are under paid, nurse shortage. Guess Andrew had to get them to stop picking on him
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:29am
- Thought Criminal
  
  I wonder how many nurses could be hired with that money. I wonder what sort or raise could be given to nurses with that money.
  
  Nurses would not be happy to know the amount I bet.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:30am
- Sideoiler
  
  I wonder which”Mahuta”owns Blacksand.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Is anyone doing an OIA? Surely Labour can’t keep this secret
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:29am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    They’ll keep it secret for “commercially sensitive” reasons, even though the advertising /propaganda arm of TVNZ – Blacksand – will be the recipient.
    https://blacksand.co.nz/
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:50am
    - PeeJay
      
      If there is a great con in the public sector than commercially sensitive, I’ve yet to hear of it. It’s used to hide all sorts of dubious transactions. In my view, if a private company bids for council / government work, it should be fully transparent.
      
      When i ran construction tenders overseas, standard practice was to let the competing parties know the winning bid – even went as far sometimes as to release all a table showing tender sums and tenderers (order mixed up). View was it was truly open, it let everyone know where they stood (and could improve performance next time), and removed any hint of dubious practice. Favourites still sometimes got the jobs but it was a hell of a lot more competitive than here!
      
      In my opinion, local government / central government could be significantly improved by removing commercially sensitive and closed session meetings.
      
      Would have thought that should be a breeze for ‘the most transparent gubermint eva’!
      
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      August 3, 2022 1:02pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Commercially sensitive – my arse! If it didn’t go to open tender, it can’t be commercially sensitive. IMO, there are a number of makers of commercials, infomercials, training media, and promotion materials in NZ who would have bid for the contract had it been released for open tender.
        If the contract was sole-sourced, the taxpayer has a right to know how their taxes have been spent or otherwise.
        The manner in which this contract was issued can only lead to taxpayers’ accusations of cronyism, rather like Mahuta Corp.
        
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        August 3, 2022 2:55pm
    - Harry Knuts
      
      commercially sensitive suggests a competitive situation. Shorty street hardly has any competitors. So this excuse alone is not acceptable. After all govt money is taxpayers $$’s. Bet the NZ nurses are really pissed now.
      
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      August 3, 2022 1:04pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Why? Just why? did I click on that?
      Shit! Time for a spa bath and then have beers (us poor old pensioners can do that) and whiskey (separate) then light dinner and a spa pool.
      What else can I do to mind bleach that ‘blacksand’ shit?
      
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      August 3, 2022 3:27pm
ClanMcleod

Oh dear, there seems to be a little disparity in the opinions of the “experts” and the general public when it comes to the recent documentary “Fauci”.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fauci

Funny that!
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August 3, 2022 8:34am
Kiwi_in_Paris

Was the “great leap forward” actually a great leap towards the Great Reset? Considering Mao appears to be a funded Yale plant, and China are leading the way in the New World Order (Xi Jinping is one of the biggest supporters of the WEF and the UN, and he names Mao as his hero, not to mention the social credit system) it could well have been:

https://psypolitics.org/2020/07/05/the-political-career-of-mao-yale-and-the-reorientation-of-thought/
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August 3, 2022 8:34am
- Master Mariner
  
  Interesting, A litle unknown fact at least in my eyes is China is not actually run by Xi but controlled by 35 highly educated individuals from the Worlds best universities.
  When I was living and working there they where around the 35 yr old Mark. This was coming out of Deng’s era.
  Correct Xi opened WEF forum in his first address and it aligns with Chinas policies mainly, Individual ID, Control of Media, Monetary control through digital technology amongst others.
  Follow the money. All major Universities are infiltrated at one level or another.
  Xi is the custodian of the Chinese communist agenda/ secret. What is it ? Global Control ?
  Interesting aint it ?
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:18am
Maggie Pie

AUCKLAND CRIME WAVE CONTINUES….

‘Liquor Store in Parnell burgled. Thieves make off with booze and Peanut Slabs, leaving broken bottles strewn across footpath’

– NZH 2 Aug.

This vid will be the funniest thing you see today 😀

https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1554348770074058752
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August 3, 2022 8:34am
- Benedict Yu
  
  In New Zealand, the liquor store guy would have been charged. 😕
  
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  August 3, 2022 8:46am
- hullkiwi
  
  Royal Oak Liquorland ram raided for the 3rd time.
  
  The apparent answer by authorities is more bollards, meaning ….
  
  Our SUVs and uses will be targeted before they conduct the next ram raid…..
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:01am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    If it is a genuine bollard, no ute will knock it over. Go to Youtube and search for ‘bollard truck test’. Great fun. 🙂
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:20am
    - MCōs
      
      Interesting you point that out.
      I was talking to the bloke who owns a local shop and he said someone ran a car into a bollard in the front of shop next to his & all it did was bent it a little.
      The tried again at another shop along the road with the same result.
      One would think an owner would bung reliable bollards in front of their shop. Unfortunately council bylaws etc often prohibit them.
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:38am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        I suspect that there are bollards just for show and genuine security bollards. The ones that pop up out of the ground – like the ones outside parliament – are immensely strong. There is a video of one being tested by a fully loaded truck hitting it at speed. It tears the truck in half. And afterwards still works perfectly.
        
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        August 3, 2022 11:00am
      - MCōs
        
        The American Embassy in Wellington is unlikely to be successfully ram raided, but I doubt if your average bottle store owner can afford the super deluxe system those guys can.
        
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        August 3, 2022 12:23pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Better hide and lock my Landcruiser
    
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    August 3, 2022 4:00pm
- kiwikidsnz
  
  That will teach him to park in a disabled space
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Liquor Store owner had a heart attack just after.
  Poo bastard.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    *poor ffs
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:39am
  - kowtow
    
    Yeah well if someone pointed a rifle at me like that I’d probably be a poo bastard .
    
    He did well didn’t he !
    
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    August 3, 2022 1:13pm
Jim

Your comment is awaiting moderation?

Data based with references, what more can I do?

[Mod: Don’t take it personally; most comments go into moderation]
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August 3, 2022 8:40am
- Biscuit
  
  Jim, the Mods here do a great job.
  
  But they, of course, have lives to lead, too, and very likely jobs to focus on … and don’t sit, all agog, before their computers eagerly awaiting any individual’s next post.
  
  They’re all proper Adonises, hung like horses, drop-dead-gorgeous … and that’s just the ones that identify as males!
  
  I used to have your angst, too, over the time it took for my posts to be moved out of Moderation but a tame Hawkes Bay Kiwiblogger I know – yo, pdm – suggested I email the site’s owner requesting ‘auto-approval’ and, hence, instant appearance of my posts.
  
  The tacit quid-pro-quo, natch, is that I don’t abuse the privilege and go about denigrating, oh, the personal appearance of DPF’s mods or implying that their personal equipment is, erm, less-than-standard!
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:05am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I find if I edit a comment it goes to moderation, no big deal
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:40am
Warren

Just a question for house owners all over the country, how will they react when the rates go up like is happening in our largest City.
How can the rate increase be justified in Auckland with some owners having to $100.00 without water rates, especially when we a just hearing house values.around the Country have had there sharpest drop in 14 years.
Thank christ I don’t live in Auckland as those with large mortgages will obviously be under all sorts of pressure with inflation also set to increase for there house mortgages.
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August 3, 2022 8:40am
- Nickc2
  
  Food for thought. If rates are based on a property’s CV, isn’t it in council’s interest to push property values up?
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:28am
  - Swifty
    
    No.
    
    Rates are a function of spending.
    
    Your property value solely determines what slice you pay i.e. what proportion.
    
    For example only, if your property was 1% of all property values in a rating area, then you’d pay 1% of the rates required.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:58am
  - Ehlana
    
    Not really. The way it works it that Council decides how much money it wants to spend, then uses the property values to spread the charges among the rate payers. Property owners have to pay, but can only charge the rent the market will pay, so many voters are disconnected from the costs of their choices.
    
    Looking back, what we should have done when GST came in was to allocate a portion to the local Council. That would have tied the money available to spend to the economic prosperity of their community. And they shouldn’t have been given “general competence”.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:29am
  - Paulus
    
    The CVs are provided by Valuation Companies paid for and employed by the Councils so the higher the better.
    
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    August 3, 2022 1:44pm
- surfing
  
  My last 3 years rate increases are as follows (roughly)…15%, 20’ish%, 16%.
  
  Auckland rate increases are tiny.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:37am
- Loddenthinks
  
  There’s elections soon, aren’t there? Well, in most places anyway, not here in Tauranga of course.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:45am
- Zero Kindness
  
  The Councils have taken advantage of surging house prices – property owners didn’t like to complain about the massive rates increases because who cares about a thousand dollars or so more per annum in rates when my house is going up 100 thousand in capital value.
  I expect the noise to increase in a falling property market, especially from those whose property has been over valued in the latest valuation round and the relative increase in rates is up to 45%. I am unimpressed with 15%.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Property is freehold but I still have to find money to keep my property
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:44am
  - Ehlana
    
    Yes, a point that seems to be missed by those who want to tax you on “imputed rent”. At least, I haven’t heard that they also want to allow you to claim expenses.
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:08am
ClanMcleod

Grandma Clampett. lol Thanks Maggie. Brilliant!
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August 3, 2022 8:49am
ClanMcleod

Following on from my post yesterday in the ongoing saga of “conspiracy theories”.

Re the WEF and Sri Lanka.

“Problem-reaction-solution is the globalists’ modus operandi. The problem, quite unnecessary in a land which thrived on tourism and natural produce, began when president Gotabaya Rajapaksa believed the World Economic Forum’s promise that his country would be rich by 2025. The way to wealth was the green economy, and the Colombo government banned chemical fertilisers. The consequence was a failed rice crop, causing Sri Lanka to import its staple food. This exacerbated the economic devastation of the collapse of tourism due to Covid restrictions. ”

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-controlled-explosion-that-is-sri-lanka/

Seeing the similarities? Right around the world. We know this is Ardern’s plan for NZ, fully supported by the Ringling Bros. that call themselves the “Green Party”.

We are not being asked about this. We are being delivered to this globalist agenda by ideologues who are not interested in discussing or debating the merits or lack of.
Ardern’s is acting as an agent of the UN/WEF to fulfil the Sustainable Development Goals of Agenda 2030 as part of the “great reset”.

It’s all there in plain sight. As the author notes:

“By problem-reaction-solution, our leaders want us to feel pain. They want us to revolt. Unless we can overcome the dystopian new world order, the solution will be much worse than the problem, as the Sri Lankans are finding out.”

Here’s a great moment for National and ACT to seize the moment. Vociferously stand against this insanity and you will banish Labour and the Green’s to political obscurity for a decade or more.
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August 3, 2022 9:05am
- Master Mariner
  
  Its not hard to join the dots is it?
  ESG self destruction runs strong in this Government along with a Scorched Earth Policy.
  As Stalin once quoted ( Something similar), ” A plucked chicken will always come to you for a few drops of grain after plucking it”.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:24am
Maggie Pie

When I read this story on $tuff, what struck me was just how much Nelson DC Dudge Jo Rielly looks like the lovely lady who runs the ‘Fairy-Cake’ shop up in Parnell.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129453318/gang-member-punches-man-repeatedly-in-the-head-brandishes-a-knife-and-threatens-to-kill-him
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August 3, 2022 9:05am
- David Garrett
  
  Yes, another disgraceful judicial decision…but not as bad as this one:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129421788/from-homeless-in-wellington-to-a-home-and-a-job-in-christchurch
  
  The above judge simply pretended 3S has already bee repealed – and justified her absurd sentence of (effectively) eight months on a judgment of the Supreme Court in a completely different kind of case, that of the Cuba Street Kisser…that man is a sad and rather pathetic individual who can’t stop himself grabbing and kissing women; Kawhe is a thug with a lengthy record of serious violence, and non compliance with past community sentences.
  
  How this silly…woman …believes that his supposedly “strict” uncle will make a blind bit of difference to his behaviour is beyond me. These judges are literally sending the message to these guys that they can pretty much do what they like, and there will be no real consequences.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:37am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  So…if you report to the police, you will be assaulted, require a hospital stay, threatened inside your own dwelling with death, and the other person has to stay at home for 6 months on ‘community detention’.
  Yep, this will encourage people to report on gangs, knowing that the powers of the state are are behind the law abiding!//
  
  I wonder if that innocent person had gotten the knife off the gang member, and stuck it up his fundament – then the state will surely come down hard on a person who uses force against the gang member: whom the judge notes is a caring father, and had not been before the courts for a while; i.e. a very good boy.
  This sort of thing both makes me despair and angry at the same time.
  The dudges need to feel what it is like to be seriously assaulted, and terrorised, and then have someone else breezily pardon the offence in effect.
  It should be a requirement of employment that each Dudge gets a few good smacks in the face with a 4×2″ board annually, and when their broken facial bones have healed, then they can resume their position. Then, they might just understand the plight of victims a bit more.
  
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  August 3, 2022 11:56am
ClanMcleod

And further evidence of the malfeasance of Ardern and her governmental covid policies. The real evidence is coming in an avalanche. We are at the point there is no possibility of denying that this was devastatingly wrong.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/miscarriages-and-a-medical-conspiracy-of-silence/

Expect to see this repeated for some time to come.
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August 3, 2022 9:10am
- Benedict Yu
  
  And yet a third of people still love her with another 10 percent rusted on to the Greens.
  
  I think many women think of her as a ‘protector’, especially those who have been abandoned by violent or feckless men. It has taken me a while to figure this out because it is so alien to me. For most Chinese folk, the Government is something to be avoided as much as possible.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:24am
  - Frank the tank
    
    As a person of East Asian decent you would have extremely likely had a culture of hard work, honor and graft installed into you from an early age.
    
    What is currently happening in New Zimbabwe must therefore be like a bad nightmare.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    BY – I would contend that Ardern has created a situation whereby most NZers will be avoiding their government for decades to come.
    The one thing she has achieved above all others is the destruction of trust in key institutions for the majority of people. Those who still blindly support here are no different to members of a cult.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:47am
    - Miritu
      
      “I would contend that Ardern has created a situation whereby most NZers will be avoiding their government for decades to come.”
      
      To be fair, this also applies to most western countries. A silver lining?
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:50am
    - kowtow
      
      yes , cult is correct.
      
      They wear masks in the open air and they have shrines in their windows , literally.
      
      These are the people who believe she has saved them and tens of thousands .
      
      I despair.
      
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      August 3, 2022 1:21pm
  - Bluegrass
    
    Old Chinese curse – may the government take an interest in you.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:36pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I am now eligible for the fourth shot. I have no intention of getting it unless some new strain emerges and I am stepping over dead bodies in the street. Yet I am getting text messages and emails reminding me that I should get the shot.
  
  What gets me is the radio ads that urge people to get a booster even if they have had COVID because the vaccine offers superior immunity to that acquired by COVID infection. Pure lies.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:40am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Jim Jones and Koolaid spring to mind…….
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:47am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    BY – it has been almost 3 years of continuous lies and propaganda. It has become normalised which is tragic.
    They either don’t have the moral fortitude to admit they made a mistake, or this is the continuation of a deliberate act. The former can be forgiven in time, the latter is a crime against humanity and deserves the appropriate response.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:50am
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    The latest text message promised me a $100 grocery voucher to get vaccinated.
    
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    August 3, 2022 9:58am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Moore Wilson’s?
      
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      August 3, 2022 7:41pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    You can contact them and tell them to stop sending you unsolicited messages. They’ll do it with no problem, or they did for me anyway.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:42am
  - David Garrett
    
    Bene: interesting what while I am also eligible for a fourth shot I am not getting any texts and emails…perhaps the Ardenistas think I’d be better off dead?
    
    Like you, I won’t be getting it either…this “vaccine” is no such thing…I am am vaccinating up the Wazzoo for other things.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:56am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Is it more than 6 months since your third shot?
      
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      August 3, 2022 11:14am
  - Ehlana
    
    The flu shot each year is based on the currently circulating flu viruses, which are a different bunch from the previous year, so I can see how that would work.
    
    But only if the Covid shot is also based on the currently circulating Covid-19 viruses and not the ones that were around back when the first injections were given.
    
    Has it actually been updated?
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:13am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Pfizer has developed a new version for one of the Omicron variants
      
      …announcement on 25 Jun 2022.
      
      https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-omicron-adapted-covid-19
      
      But I seriously doubt that NZ has this vaccine….we will still be using something developed for the Wild-type or even Alpha variant.
      
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      August 3, 2022 1:14pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        The first “vaccine” didn’t do what it was supposed to do on the one that is was apparently designed for. It’s hard to imagine a “modified” version being more effective. Well, actually it wouldn’t take much for something to be more effective.
        
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        August 3, 2022 9:42pm
  - Harry Knuts
    
    i used to get the text messages too – i just resorted to blocking the number – magic – no more texts!
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:16am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Same. I was reporting them as phishing and/or spam whenever possible.
      
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      August 3, 2022 9:43pm
  - Drone
    
    The problem BY is that I don’t know what to believe any more. Am I gonna die from Covid, is the vaccine gonna kill me, who is telling the truth. What is the truth.. Is there a truth..
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:02pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I declined their kind offer (initial jab) on a couple of occasions. After that, they left me alone.
    
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    August 3, 2022 7:40pm
Benedict Yu

Another day in Kāinga Ora land…

A Kāinga Ora tenancy manager goes to do a routine inspection. Knocks on door. Partner of tenant comes to door with two large dogs.

Guy: “Get off my property.”

Kāinga Ora person: “It is not your property. You are not even the tenant.”

Guy: “It is stolen Maori land.”

Kāinga Ora person: “I will be back same time next week with the police.”

Apparently this guy is a meth user who is terrorising the nearby Kāinga Ora tenants, who are reportedly well behaved. Yet it seems that Kāinga Ora has no plans to remove this guy.
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August 3, 2022 9:29am
- surfing
  
  Just wait, there is an avalanche of new Kainga Ora tenants banging on the door, courtesy of the failing education system.
  
  Maybe this is why Kainga Ora are looking for 500 staff? They know that education and poverty are closely linked, perhaps with a 2 or 3 year gap between failing school and requiring social housing (as the parents kick their drug-abusing crim kids out of the house).
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:41am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “parents“? i don’t think there will often be two parents involved, if ever.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:43am
- Frank the tank
  
  And will vote Labour ‘absoludely’
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:48am
  - kowtow
    
    Not to worry , there’s a huge constituency that doesn’t vote .
    
    ‘Progressive’ policies aren’t designed to get the Feral Class vote , they’re designed to get the well to do , white virtue signalling vote . The types who constantly bag Trump , who repeat the mantra “I’m very concerned about the growing gap between the rich and the poor” , while they insist on sending their children to fee paying private schools and living in the poshest neighbourhoods away from the proles they care so much for , oh yes they’re also quite vocal about BLM , but would have to go into therapy if they knew Hermione was being banged by a black man. They also deeply care about the environment but holiday at least once a year overseas and winter must include a ski trip to Queenstown or some other Alpine resort.
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:14am
- PeeJay
  
  KO should be burned to the ground – it’s failed, riddled with debt that most Kiwi’s don’t even know about and completely fails on every metric.
  
  Both being in Christchurch and knowing some of the fine folks in KO, you probably know as well as I do some of the astronomical salaries some of the staff now earn. Front liners tend to get shafted but the back office idiots with fancy job titles are doing very well.
  
  Heard from one of my mates in Auckland (used to report to me) who is a solid guy but would genuinely struggle to get around $100k in the private sector. Solid, reliable but not brilliant and in no way unique. After them buggering up his restructure he’s now getting $220k a year, backdated, along with a huge amount of others. Huge number of average idiots now earning north of $200k, lots on $300k-$400k and so on.
  
  But hey, inflation is all overseas related and they obviously deserve it – KO is in such fine shape, they should be getting more really. And yes, sarcasm in case it wasn’t obvious!
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:19pm
thirteenstars

British Police arrest man for having “caused anxiety” over a tweet that satirises the Pride flag. Actually put in cuffs. Fined. Offered re-education.

Mark Steyn reports:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wwiHdQulg8

Coming soon to a NZ Police station near you.
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August 3, 2022 9:30am
- Loddenthinks
  
  He didn’t even send the tweet, he simply shared it. 1984 was an instruction manual in the UK, obviously.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I wrote a post to the fact checkers/mods on Facebook telling them ‘don’t shoot the messenger’ when all I did was share something. Go find the original poster.
    I had to use my partner’s account because I was in jail. They lifted my restriction almost immediately.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:57am
Inandout

Dave Rubin is a resident of Florida, as is his woman guest in this video. She desribed NY as a sorry crime filled city now with masked people ‘walking around like zombies’ and willing to put up with mandates. NY she comments was once a vibrant city with interesting and innovative people. Anyway she comments here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOlVmp6Hy5Q
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August 3, 2022 9:35am
- Batman
  
  So two Floridian conservatives disparage a large democratic leaning city?
  
  Wow, truly ground breaking!
  
  As for Rubin, he’s been sold out by conservatism now they no longer feel the need to pretend they have a gay friend but yet still seems desperate for approval from them. Truly sad.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:26am
  - Inandout
    
    Bat, this guy is well rounded but the fact is Florida has seen a huge influx of residents escaping from NY. I won’t even debate your views on gays.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:39am
    - Batman
      
      He has been a token gay friend for conservative talking heads for years. He was used as a convenient shield and has let himself be degraded for the sake of clout.
      
      Yeah a bunch of people left NY but it pales in comparison to the number of still live there. I’m sure all the actual New Yorkers are pleased to see the tourists gone 😂
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:54am
  - alloytoo
    
    Your comment seems just a little bit sadder.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:46am
    - Batman
      
      Pointing out that Dave Rubin sold his self-respect for people who fundamentally resent his life, husband and child?
      
      I dunno, I’d rather be me than him.
      
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      August 3, 2022 10:50am
      - RightNow
        
        I dunno, I no longer want to be Batman
        
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        August 3, 2022 12:15pm
      - Inandout
        
        Bat, they are leaving NY.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQrnospyJ7E
        
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        August 3, 2022 12:39pm
Harry Knuts

Been thinking for the last 2 days about Cindy’s comment on the Cost of Living payment lolly scramble that it is. She said that yes it is likely that some people overseas will be claiming the payment and pretty much too hard for them to claw it back. Surely this opens the flood gates for anyone overseas to try their luck in claiming this payment now as a free for all? When she has clearly declared they won’t check nor chase.
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August 3, 2022 9:35am
- MCōs
  
  “Been thinking for the last 2 days about Cindy’s comment”
  
  That’s a lot of thinking
  
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  August 3, 2022 12:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sort yourselves out National.

Time to put out CLEAR messages on policy

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/christopher-luxon-backtracks-on-promise-to-match-health-funding-with-inflation-if-elected-despite-repeated-assurances.html
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August 3, 2022 9:37am
- surfing
  
  Luxon is pretty disappointing so far. He doesn’t seem to have presence (Hawaii trips notwithstanding).
  
  Nor does he seem willing to push against anti-white racism.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:43am
  - Tricati
    
    Luxon needs to get his message on track, as the paid for media are going to pick apart his every word.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/christopher-luxon-backtracks-on-promise-to-match-health-funding-with-inflation-if-elected-despite-repeated-assurances.html
    He needs to say he’s not going to comment on the costs of future policy until he has seen the PREFU, as the amount of current spending makes it impossible to know where the country’s debt is.
    Whoever is giving him media advice needs to resign, and him get some one that knows how to attacks the government, and not put his foot in it – continually.
    
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    August 3, 2022 12:58pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  FFS. That is a stupid policy. I can’t be bothered looking up the data. I don’t need to. Funding allocated to public health increased year on year under the last National Government at a rate exceeding the CPI. There is no need to make such a ‘promise’.
  
  I am starting to wonder how smart this guy is. Sure he was CE of Air New Zealand. A small airline with significant monopoly power in a small country. In contrast, John Key was head of international financial trading in one of the largest global financial institutions. It is a totally different league.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:45am
  - thirteenstars
    
    While I’m no fan of Luxon mainly because he perfectly reflects the modern Blairite Third Wayism of the National Party, you can’t necessarily judge a man by his statements alone, as here we have Key in 2007 before he became PM, succinctly and quite correctly outlining the problem regards unaffordable housing being destructive of a stable middle class and identifying the then obvious pressures building in the economy:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEcmkmaD3ro
    
    And after he was elected? He didn’t do a damn thing about it. It’s pretty obvious Key’s connections impressed upon him the folly of destroying their already massively lucrative property portfolios, and the middle class be damned.
    
    And here we are 15 painful years later with renters outnumbering homeowners and massive social dislocation all over the place because of it.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:04am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Agree.
      
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      August 3, 2022 11:12am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Thanks for that link. The internet never forgets.
      
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      August 4, 2022 2:58pm
  - H. Upmann
    
    Luxon ran an organisation, Air New Zealand, that is basically one step removed from being a Government Department. Think of him as being on a par with Adrian Orr.
    
    The man is not PM material.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:43am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Yep agree, Too busy trying to piss in everyones pockets.
      Blowing like the weather in all directions.
      
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      August 3, 2022 12:13pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He ran Uniliver ffs, it has a 100000 staff
      
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      August 3, 2022 2:14pm
      - GJM
        
        He was head of a part of Unilever but, i wonder what he really did. Having worked in a large corporate, titles don’t necessarily match responsibility or results and a lot of pretty average people get and keep jobs by hiding amongst the masses, at least for a while.
        
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        August 3, 2022 8:45pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        No he didnt run Unilever!!!
        He was briefly CEO of Unilever Canada
        A small subsidiary of Unilver itself.
        
        Staff 910
        Turnover $283 million
        https://www.datanyze.com/companies/unilever-canada/144015429
        
        PLease do some homework if you expect to be taken seriously
        
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        August 3, 2022 9:21pm
  - MCōs
    
    The difference between Luxon and Key, Ardern, Clark, Bolger, Muldoon, Holyoake, Lange and any other multi term PM is he’s not a good politician, he doesn’t think on his feet. Nothing to do with having a business background or not.
    
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    August 3, 2022 12:57pm
    - kowtow
      
      Ardern does not think on her feet .
      
      That’s where ” I refudiate that” or “I’ll get back to you on that” comes from.
      
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      August 3, 2022 1:24pm
- Frank the tank
  
  He can’t.
  
  Following the Judith experiment the powerbrokers are back to the well of LabourLite and “we are less shit than the” approach.
  
  Have a look at the front bench – not a conviction-based member among them with next off the line – beltway Willis.
  
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  August 3, 2022 9:51am
- Jack5
  
  National and ACT politicians should read Michael Reddell’s two pieces (Monday and Tuesday) on the Reserve Bank reaction to Covid.
  
  It might be a challenging read for some, but something will have to be done about Orr, and the articles provide good background.
  
  The first of the two:
  
  https://croakingcassandra.com/2022/08/01/reviewing-covid-monetary-policy-part-1/
  The first one:
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:51am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Listen to the interview, how they got back track out of that god knows, he said funding will go up by at least inflation every year in health and education, he said some years it will go up more snd some years less, well if inflation is lower I guess he is right, how the he’ll did he back track? Yet another attempt by the rotten media, he was as clear as a bell that funding would go up in both education and health by at least inflation
  
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  August 3, 2022 11:30am
  - Nickc2
    
    Get rid of the Maori Health Authority, that’ll save a lot of money for keeping up to date with inflation eh?
    
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    August 3, 2022 2:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s pretty irrelevant what Luxon says…
    
    The headline said he backtracked..
    
    Now there’s a new headline:
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/unions-lash-out-at-christopher-luxon-after-he-backtracks-on-health-funding-promise.html
    
    And that’s all the MSM needs
    
    For most folks aren’t going to check the details.
    
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    August 3, 2022 3:29pm
Batman

Zoonotic infection beats lab leak, delivering another win for boring reality over spicy theories. Ah well, it was entertaining at the start.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
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August 3, 2022 9:56am
- Zero Kindness
  
  From the article:
  
  “However, the observation that the preponderance of early cases were linked to the Huanan market does not establish that the pandemic originated there.”
  
  I guess you believe in the tooth fairy as well Batman.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:25am
  - Batman
    
    As one commentator put it, it is another brick in the wall of evidence that this is the most likely origin, and not the lab theory.
    
    Nice job finding one little caveat to cling to though!
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:55am
    - Zero Kindness
      
      Could have mentioned the research funding by CDC, the NIH personnel involvement, the lack of the Wuhan Lab location in the maps, or a number of other little caveats to cling to Batty.
      But you do you, I know you are desperate to not have any conspiracy involved in the biggest scam on humankind EVER.
      
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      August 3, 2022 11:36am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  One theory doesn’t have to be boring or spicy.
  
  Wet markets were always a risk for viruses to jump to humans, and noted pre-covid in academia. Also that bats, being mobile and yet dense colonies were a likely species; hence were being looked at for study.
  Yet I have seen sober MSM articles tracking the US$ into the Wuhan labs, and working on gain of function programmes that their own government was not entirely comfortable with, to see that there was the means and the possibility that the lab may be the point of origin.
  After all, the Wuhan market people getting sick early on was one thing, but no trace of Covid-19 was found in the market itself, even though genetic material can be detected on frozen peas these days.
  So rather than ‘Gotcha’, when there is no final answer – be able to entertain two theories at once.
  I have warmed to the lab escape idea more in 2022 from what I have read: there was some very good investigative journalism in Aussie media even naming and providing the background of some very ambitious and manipulative characters on the American side. I can well entertain human stupidity played a part. The lab theory does not have to mean conspiracy.
  
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  August 3, 2022 3:06pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I have a clear recollection that the Chinese authorities scoured every square inch of the market with borax. So there would be nothing for subsequent inquiries to find.
  
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  August 3, 2022 7:48pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  The critical part of the covid circus is the complete and utter fiasco the policies implemented by Ardern and her experts. Where it originated certainly has implications going forward, but right now it isn’t the critical piece of this shit show.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:06pm
Benedict Yu

So we now have a disaster where only 45 percent of Maori kids have their MMR vaccine.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/471798/low-vaccination-rates-prompt-fears-of-severe-measles-outbreak

And why is that? Because for many parents when they now hear the phrase “vaccinate your child” they switch off. Why could that be?

Sadly I commented here that this would be the outcome from nagging parents to give the COVID vaccine to their young children. They have just switched off from ‘vaccines’.

So parents are now afraid of giving their kids an effective vaccine (i.e one that works) with a 50 year track record. It will take years to repair the damage.

I have got to the stage where if the Government announces a ‘policy’ to fix any problem, I assume that it is the exact opposite of what would be effective. And I am usually correct in my assumption.
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August 3, 2022 9:57am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The Left specialise in unintentionally fucking things up with ignorant superficial band-aid solutions that treat symptoms rather than causes. They think you can fix poverty by handing out money, they think you can reduce prison numbers by reducing sentences, they think that you can improve average wages by legislated increases. Other examples?
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:21am
- MCōs
  
  My son and daughter have never been ‘nagged’ to have their kids vaccinated.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:43am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Maori parents were bombarded with expensive advertising urging them to get vaccinated.
    
    https://youtu.be/TcIQATtAkS0
    
    Activists said health system was racist. For months across all media, Maori were implored to vaccinate their kids.
    
    And after all that money and all that nagging, how many Maori kids are fully vaccinated against COVID? 14.4 percent.
    
    https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data
    
    At least the activists have stopped blaming the racist health system. They have milked that myth to death.
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:10am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    You don’t listen to radio, or even look at the ads that pop up on KB and all over the place?
    The promotion of the Covid vaccines, and with insertion of Maori words, Maori nose flutes, and Maori accents, and Maori models and even coining ‘Kowhini-19’ is all over the bloody place for months now.
    Daily: Protect your tamaraki, blah blah, whanau, blah, rangitahi, blah blah.
    You missed all that?
    
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    August 3, 2022 12:13pm
    - MCōs
      
      If you call that ‘nagging’ what do you call all they other ads that’s bombard us day and night whenever the TV or radio is on, except RNZ, and incessantly on social media, including this blog, newspapers, everywhere . . . . . .
      Then there’s the various wild eyed fools parading in the streets. Anti vaxxers. Bishop Bloody Brian.
      
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      August 3, 2022 4:44pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Now you’re just being stupid.
        
        Find a single thing that has been promoted to even 1% of the amount of bullshit propaganda that the country has been bombarded with over the last 2 year. Find one service or product that has had even 1% of the money that has been spent on the covid fairy story. Sometimes you come up with a rational comment. This one is just idiotic.
        
        “Wild eyed”, “antivaxxers”. I think you missed some of your meds.
        
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        August 3, 2022 11:00pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘And why is that?’
  
  Captain Cook .
  
  ( sarc)
  
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  August 3, 2022 11:04am
ClanMcleod

Just in case there was any lingering doubt that the evidence for mask efficacy has been well and truly shredded. Here is the excellent Eugyppius tearing apart Germany’s health minister, Karl Lauterbach.

“…..it should be clear to everyone by now that Karl Lauterbach has no idea what he’s doing, and that he’ll sing the praises of any study that flatters his preconceptions. Germany would be better off with a goldfish heading the Ministry of Health. He should resign.”

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/karl-lauterbach-cites-new-mask-mega?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

The same can be said for Bloomfield, Baker and now Verrall.
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August 3, 2022 9:58am
Maggie Pie

“A recent survey found that one in three Green Party Members are as stupid as the other two.”

– The Outsiders.
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August 3, 2022 10:08am
- Benedict Yu
  
  It is kind of disturbing that 10 percent of adults are so stupid.
  
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  August 3, 2022 10:22am
  - Jack5
    
    Some try to put a figure on the fairly steady number of fuckwits in a population.
    
    The popular belief used to be that 5 per cent of respondents any random-based survey were too stupid to answer rationally.
    
    Even Marx wrote off a slice of the working population as lumpenproletariat — too stupid to be converted to communism.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:58am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    It’s even more disturbing that they are in government.
    
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    August 3, 2022 11:20am
skyblue

Unemployment increases to 3.3%.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/129453699/surprise-as-official-unemployment-edges-up-to-33
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August 3, 2022 11:02am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, and well up on the 2.8 expected, apparently construes rapidly running out of new work enquires, hang on to ya hats people
  
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  August 3, 2022 11:32am
- Tricati
  
  What’s the Job Seeker rate at – They need to produce both figures to get a true picture.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:41pm
Alan Wilkinson

I see the Government is planning a managed retreat from a non-existent threat of climate change. Their usual strategy in dealing with a problem – throw money at a useless heap of virtue signalling and ban something. God, they are destructively stupid and thick as bricks.
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August 3, 2022 11:26am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  The Europeans are doing the same as they have no gas. Coal burn Baby BURN
  
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  August 3, 2022 12:03pm
Surely Knott

Another misleading article from the Herald….and another day ending in Y.

Brian Tamaki is planning another protest.

“Counter protest organiser Mark Graham said it was a spur of the moment decision to show up and “save the nation’s democracy”.

But that’s all they say about Mark Graham. Who is he. A google search show’s he’s an ex sports diver, a spinoff guest writer, and a political candidate for Auckland, Albert-Eden-Puketapapa Ward. Very misleading for the Herald not to mention that he is a politician prior to an election and simply calling him an activist. His political candidate page is active and he has posted this article and others recently, so it appears he is still an active candidate in the upcoming local elections.

Mark’s grievances…”The coalition and Brian Tamaki are not calling for freedom and rights, they want things to be done the way they want. That’s just selfish.” (Not exactly a clear statement of any issue or Tamakis position.)

“”He (Tamaki) is throwing a tantrum because he is not getting what he wants. This is not democratic.” (Actually it’s not a tantrum, it is a planned peaceful protest which is an extremely democratic way to raise issues and concerns and protected in our bill of rights.)

“Graham said their group was building in numbers since last night’s decision to head to Auckland Domain on Saturday.
(Who is “Their Group” ?)

“”We hope more people will show up to save our nation’s democracy.” (This appears to be the herald calling for a counter protest. But ok. Should be interesting. )

“Newmarket Business Association chief executive Mark Knoff-Thomas said it hoped the protesters would respect the business owners’ right to trade.”

(Nobody stopped Newmarket business trading. The people of Newmarket decided to close their shops due to their own stereotyping of the people marching. There is no evidence that shows the marchers caused any problems at any shop.)
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August 3, 2022 12:22pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  Disagreeing with Labour automatically gets your the title of activist by the tabloids that have had their hand out for the PIJF. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you and all that.
  our local news outlets are now at the bottom of the credibility and trustworthy list.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:17pm
- Zero Kindness
  
  Who is their group?
  Jacinda sycophants united. All three of them.
  
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  August 3, 2022 2:57pm
Captain Mainwaring

Why is Air Force 1 on its way back to Samoa? Did Spindy leave her toothbrush behind?
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August 3, 2022 12:37pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Landing now.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:05pm
- Dougal10
  
  It’s probably got the 15 million in cash that cindy promised them. It was funny watching it land yesterday , the tower kicked a domestic takeoff flight off runway and made it loop around as airhorse 1 came in hard and fast.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:34pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Perhaps the reason most journalists wont investigate the Mahuta conflicts of Interest concerning Government appointments and contracts is that they remember what happened when 2 Maori journalists investigated the financial fiddles going on at Te Kōhanga Reo National Trust.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/08/the-hui-duo-mihingarangi-forbes-and-annabelle-lee-mather-on-the-expos-that-led-to-m-ori-television-exit.html

and for those who forget how Powerful folk from across Party lines worked to protect the financial fiddlers.

Elites always protect their own: inside the Kōhanga Reo saga

https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/06-07-2019/can-the-whole-rotten-kohanga-scandal-finally-be-put-to-bed
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August 3, 2022 1:01pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  ohh dear – hit the nail on the head there i think Maggy.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:18pm
- Swifty
  
  I feel physically sick after reading that Spinoff article.
  
  That those who would rule over us would characterise calls for financial accountability and responsibility as ‘attacks’ and physically intervene in decisions about what Maori TV can and cannot cover – in order to protect their friends.
  
  Rotten. Corrupt. Venal.
  
  These people should be in jail, not government.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:51pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The most extraordinary thing about that article is that it was written by Morgan Godfery, he of the usually racist Stuff articles.
    
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    August 3, 2022 8:16pm
- Swifty
  
  I should add:
  
  And the bigger and more powerful the state becomes the more and more we will see this stuff.
  
  We are being governed by crooks.
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:54pm
Maggie Pie

Sometimes, seems no matter WHAT I do – its wrong.
We received our latest Rates Bill yesterday (1 July22 – 30 June23). First thing my partner says… “Oh ffs!! Maybe you shouldn’t have requested they review the CV in line with our own valuation”

SHEESH! He just doesn’t understand what it’s like being a member of the Tennis club. Men, eh.
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August 3, 2022 1:14pm
Maggie Pie

And here’s something else I’ve only just picked up on.

You realise what a ‘sick joke’ New Zealand has become, when even the Japs on Twitter start taking-the-piss out of our so called parliamentarians!

https://twitter.com/KiwiMusashi/status/1553919733522907136
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August 3, 2022 1:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Is this going to work I wonder.
https://www.facebook.com/Mike%20Legg%20%7C%20Boxing%20Trainer/videos/1238177227013359/
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August 3, 2022 1:58pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yep, it’s a doozy!
  
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  August 3, 2022 1:59pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Tips for improving concentration:
-Make a list of tasks.
-Take on one task at a time.
-Take On Me was a fun song.
-Ooh I found the video.
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August 3, 2022 2:19pm
Tony Stuart

Wow; the Taxpayers’ Union has lobbed a grenade in the direction of the Government with regard to Three Waters; check out this thread from Thomas Cranmer, which begins as follows:

Thomas Cranmer ✝️ @kehetauhauaga

Following on from yesterday’s legal opinion, please see below a copy of a bombshell complaint which has made on behalf of the NZTU to the Commerce Commission asking them to investigate potential misleading and deceptive claims relating to Three Waters with a view to prosecution.

https://twitter.com/kehetauhauaga/status/1554630255553310721

The complaint is in the name of former Act MP Stephen Franks, from the law firm Franks Ogilvie. Cranmer suggests that legal and political challenges will continue to grow “as the reality of this sham becomes clear to all”.

It would appear that the Government has decided that Three Waters is the ditch they are prepared to die in. Thank goodness we now have Assisted Dying legislation, which might help to put the Government out of its misery.
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August 3, 2022 2:34pm
- Yabster
  
  heres the link to the actual lawyers letter- very long- but you cld just read the conclusion- Mahuta and co are liars and heres proof.
  https://assets.nationbuilder.com/taxpayers/pages/13/attachments/original/1659414538/NZTU_Three_Waters_Ownership_Claims_FINAL_2_.pdf?1659414538
  
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  August 3, 2022 3:43pm
  - Swifty
    
    Bloody hell.
    
    That’ll set the cats amongst the pigeons.
    
    And rightly so.
    
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    August 3, 2022 6:45pm
- David Garrett
  
  Tony S: Clearly you are not paying attention to the polls old son…as things stand, the bitch is back if an elections was held tomorrow,,,albeit with the help of the Greens and the Maoris…and that just makes things worser..
  
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  August 3, 2022 7:34pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    There’s a lot of water to pass under the bridge yet David; it’s not as if the election is next week.
    
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    August 3, 2022 7:55pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Indeed not…and no one knows better than me truth of the old adage “a week is a long time in politics”!
      
      18 months is an eternity…but there is still a wedding to have isn’t there? And maybe another baby??
      
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      August 3, 2022 8:00pm
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        Think of the coup it would be if she was with child whilst campaigning….
        
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        August 3, 2022 9:14pm
  - Bluegrass
    
    It’s the zeitgeist.
    
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    August 3, 2022 10:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda Ardern has lied to us all once again.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/472137/dhbs-not-in-targeted-consultation-over-green-list-nursing-question
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August 3, 2022 3:10pm
Ehlana

One of these things is not like the others: https://twitter.com/mrsrosieb/status/1554393297820401664
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August 3, 2022 3:25pm
Maggie Pie

WOW! Just wow!!

The on-line HORRID headline read….

“Three Waters is a coup – an attack on democracy”

However, it didn’t last long till the call came.
They were made to change the headline and to remove the words “a coup”. The question is: WHY?

https://nzcpr.com/newsletter/
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August 3, 2022 3:26pm
NZer In Exile

“If a nation of engineers like Germany can’t make renewables work, if Germany can’t sever their dependency on Russian gas through all the billions they have invested into renewables, nobody can.”

A lesson for climate hysterics who want to destroy western civilisation to supposedly “save the planet”.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/08/01/green-nightmare-aussie-power-prices-rising-out-of-control/

Hat tip to NZ’s “Not PC” website.
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August 3, 2022 3:59pm
Swifty

For Maggy – Stuff’s food editor attempts an apology, of sorts.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-drink/129462090/why-id-never-heard-of-the-oh-so-kiwi-condensed-milk-mayo

She puts her ignorance all down to her upbringing which doesn’t explain, of course, why she couldn’t have done the tiniest bit of research before bursting into print mocking a part of our food heritage and one imposed because of war rationing.

I notice too this apology has come at lightning speed – a speed I’ve never seen from a Stuff writer or editor before.

She must have received a right bollocking over the last 24 hours.
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August 3, 2022 5:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Clearly has no idea that a mayonnaise is an emulsion..
hence the condensed milk/vinegar/mustard mix could never be called a mayonnaise.

The poor child needed to attend a few basic cooking classes before attempting to masquerade as a Food Editor.
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