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Steve Otto(North Shore)

Build back better. Put the blame where is belongs, Biden.
https://pjnewsletter.com/joe-manchin-slams-biden-action/?
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May 23, 2022 8:01am
- Surely Knott
  
  Is Ardern going to Davos this year? She’s been out of action for weeks. Headlines tell us she’s going to visit Biden and the USA but it just happens to be Davos week. Is she really not going this year? The Media and Ardern on instagram made a big song and dance about it previously? So is she going to Davos? Are we being told the whole story?
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:51am
  - rouppe
    
    No need, H1 is there
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:11am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not sure, but Hosking spoke to Clark this morning, she is going, why, who knows, but one suspects mummy dearest helping rapidly ageing non-coping daughter
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:43am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Interesting. So it’s become politically unpalatable so they send someone non-elected. I wonder who is paying for H. Clarke’s trip. I wonder who the Greens are sending.
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:57pm
  - Stellaboxer
    
    No she hasn’t her handler has gone in person. Helen Clarke rang Hos up on his breakfast show this morning from Davos.
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:19pm
  - Unity
    
    She is certainly very conspicuous by her absence. I reckon she has been hiding for much of the year. I’ve almost forgotten what she looks like. (sarc). No seriously what’s wrong with zoom if she’s stricken with Covid. It doesn’t sound as though she got it very bad. Probably just some sniffles? In her position she should be doing what’s possible to stay in touch with us all.
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:51pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Captain Biden as the controls
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:12am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Don’t know he is even there, South Korea 3 days, Japan now, pretty sure he was got somewhere else, media blaming COVID Cindy for non meeting
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:44am
Scott

It’s hard to know what to make of the Australian election? Political pundit Peta Credlin argued that a more conservative approach would have won Scott Morrison the election – “she claimed the Coalition lost because it was not right-wing enough. She described Scott Morrison’s government as a ‘Labor-lite government that gave in on ”net zero”, compromised budget responsibility and freedom during the pandemic, and refused to fight any culture wars.’ Credlin claimed Mr Morrison had shifted to the left, alienating conservative voters who turned to One Nation and the United Australia Party and did not preference the Coalition. ‘Instead of sticking with the Quiet Australians who’d supported him to his miracle win last time, Morrison’s shift to the left didn’t placate the Teals, but it sure alienated one-time Coalition supporters who moved in droves to splinter parties on the right whose preferences haven’t returned in anything like the numbers needed to hold government.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10841555/Australia-election-Fight-soul-Liberal-Party-underway-blue-ribbon-wipeout-teals.html

Certainly from this side of the ditch it is hard to know what Scott Morrison actually stood for? I do believe his embrace of carbon zero was a huge mistake. He didn’t seem to get any credit for it from the green left and it could only have alienated more conservative supporters who are very sceptical of climate change.

Indeed I would say that climate change is a hoax. It provides something of a religion for those people desperate to find a purpose and meaning in their life. But the idea that if we all reduce our fossil fuels and carbon emissions then we can change the weather seems to me the height of folly.

We can see the damage caused by our Prime Minister’s captain’s call to end all oil and gas exploration. All we end up doing is importing coal from Chile.

I think the good people of Australia should brace themselves. Their economic situation is only gonna get worse under labour/green governance. That’s what’s happened in New Zealand and that’s what will happen to them as well.
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May 23, 2022 8:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Coalition lost because Morrison should have been replaced ages ago – very arrogant. Large protest vote, they could not bring themselves to vote Labor, so went to the Greens! That gave Labor the win. Even if those going away from the Coalition did not vote, it would still be a Labor win.
  My Brother in Coff’s Harbour is crowing like a rooster in the morning. I just said remember this and in 3 years tell me what went wrong with Elbow fucking Australia. Greens at 12% ? they can’t believe their luck!
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:25am
  - mawm
    
    Labour got somewhere below 30% and the Coalition 35% in the primary vote.
    
    Morrison is first and foremost a Davos boy. He lost his centre right by going against his promise of not signing up for “carbon zero”, and I’m sure his failure of leadership with the Covid response also helped. He has shown his true colours and Australians do not want a WEF puppet as PM.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:44am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Will Luxon and the NZ National Party take any lessons from that? I fear Luxon so subscribed to WEF he also will make an unsatisfactory leader for NZ. It is certainly disappointing that he is so bought into carbon lunacy.
      
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      May 23, 2022 3:33pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The teal vote is Green as well
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:47am
- kowtow
  
  Yer , everyone will tend to interpret the result from their own perspective .
  
  Did I hear a pundit on Hosk saying that the non two major parties ended up with more first preference votes than Labor got.
  
  So one could say Labor did not win in those terms but did because of the transfer of preferences?
  
  Some serious analysis would be very welcome ,beyond the usual simplistic biased shite from the Media pardy.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:25am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    It’s the two party preference, the teals weee set up to split the rights vote and that is what will happen here
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:49am
  - oldfella
    
    kowtow, here’s an article on the election result from an Aussie pundit.
    https://the-pipeline.org/greenslide-in-oz-dumps-scott-morrison/
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:03am
    - kowtow
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Oh, Scott, the dirty coal is coming from Indonesia.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:28am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I don’t subscribe to climate change being a hoax, but in the case of Australia, zero emissions is a fantasy. The data is breath-taking.
  
  Australia produced 265,117 Gwh of electricity in 2019. This is more than six times New Zealand’s output. Think baking climate and air conditioners. Fossil fuels account for 79 percent of this.
  
  https://www.energy.gov.au/publications/australian-energy-statistics-table-o-electricity-generation-fuel-type-2018-19-and-2019
  
  It is the world’s largest coal exporter!
  
  Its vehicle fleet is younger than the fleet in New Zealand, but people drive longer distances, and there is a higher market share of large SUVs. Because next to the USA it has the second cheapest pump prices for petrol in the world (excluding weird cases like Iran and Kuwait).
  
  So how on earth can Australia have zero emissions?
  
  Having said that, I don’t see how New Zealand can have zero emissions unless we pay many billions to reduce emissions in places like Poland, and the former Soviet states. Which is difficult politically.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:37am
  - MCōs
    
    NZ electricity is generated from 80+% renewable sources.
    The big problem is the internal combustion engine which accounts for more than half our energy use, including me later on this afternoon.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:04am
    - alloytoo
      
      Big problem is when you add an EV to the grid it gets powered by Huntly
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:11am
      - kowtow
        
        EV = Indonesian coal engine.
        
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        May 23, 2022 9:24am
      - info@cruzpro.com
        
        Not if you charge the EV at night.
        
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        May 23, 2022 7:20pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Off in your gas guzzling V8 MCos? Give it the jandal.
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:11am
      - MCōs
        
        Don’t know what it is.
        All I know is where to put the petrol, oil & water and how to change a flat tyre.
        When I ride my bike I swear at the cars, and vice versa.
        
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        May 23, 2022 10:18am
    - 1920x1080p
      
      The ICE is not a “big problem”. The invention has given us and continues to give us the very comfortable life style we enjoy now. Despite the best efforts, so far, by those who want to see us back to some utopia living as one with nature.
      
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      May 23, 2022 10:04am
    - rouppe
      
      Except it’s not a “big problem”.
      
      We could eliminate every living thing in New Zealand and reduce global emissions by 0.6%. Our goal is to reduce global emissions 0.0018% or something like that.
      
      Why bother? Our emissions reductions are being compared directly to countries that throw dead bodies in the river. We are already way ahead of other countries, so why are we spending billions to essentially no effect?
      
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      May 23, 2022 10:18am
    - rangitoto
      
      80% renewable but every extra EV requires more non renewable. Good old coal to the rescue.
      
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      May 23, 2022 12:15pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Use super critical coal plants. Pretty close to gas in terms of emissions. Dilute and bake the fly ash into stoneware bricks and chuck into the deep ocean. They’ll get covered in sediment over millennia and won’t leech out crap to any significant degree.
        
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        May 23, 2022 2:47pm
  - Colville
    
    Will Aussie go nuke to get closer to net zero?
    
    How long before New Zealand can have a rational conversation about a reliable power source?
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:06am
    - kowtow
      
      No , the lights will have to go off first before the low info inner city woke voter realises that all this climate catastrophism is just another anti west scam.
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:26am
    - curry4me
      
      It’ll happen when the lights go out regularly.
      
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      May 23, 2022 10:56am
    - alloytoo
      
      Nuclear is the only rational Zero-Emissions pathway.
      
      We know it works irrespective of when the sun is shinning or the wind is blowing.
      
      We also know what it’s reliable capacity is for decades.
      
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      May 23, 2022 10:57am
    - MCōs
      
      Already happened a few years ago and the idea got kicked down the road.
      I believe starting are power plant from scratch is extraordinarily expensive, never mind the red tape and public scrutiny.
      
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      May 23, 2022 11:37am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I don’t think nuclear will ever happen in NZ. To many flakes. Even 3 or 4 generations it will still be squashed. Mention the word “nuclear” and straight away it is nuclear weapons, can’t thin outside the square.
      Sad, because it is the most efficient and clean, it is not 1986 Ukraine any more.
      
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      May 23, 2022 11:46am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Those who just voted in the clown show there truly believe the lie (pushed by renewable industry lobbyists) that wind and solar are now “cheaper” than base-load traditional forms of power generation. The cost of energy underpins the cost of everything. They will only be able hide those rising costs (with money printing and tax funded subsidies) for so long.
      
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      May 23, 2022 2:55pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Coal exporting is huge there. I have not been there, but mates were employed making water sprayers to stop the loss of coal dust. The scale is so big the dust accounted for thousands of tons.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:10am
    - cmm
      
      It isn’t just the loss of coal dust, but the danger of coal dust too.
      Coal dust can spontaneously combust/explode.
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:34am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yep, that is another reason
        
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        May 23, 2022 11:48am
      - Nickc2
        
        So can 4% of Hydrogen in concentration.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6682021/
        
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        May 23, 2022 11:55am
  - Matt Long
    
    Or we could measure and sequester around 2-5 tons of carbon annually under pastoral grazing but that would solve the carbon problem for New Zealand and politically that’s not acceptable.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:17am
    - cmm
      
      Imagine if we had a technology that captured CO2 and made it into food….
      
      Well imagine no more – we have this amazing technology. In fact we’ve had it for millennia.
      
      It’s called agriculture.
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:35am
  - Surely Knott
    
    I guess the question I have about Climate Change is not that it is a complete hoax, but is it overblown like Covid was (eg sure covid is an actual respiratory virus that can make you sick but it wasn’t as extreme as they portrayed in media, it was closer to normal flu (which disappeared) So the questions are what is a hoax?. Was covid a hoax or just overblown? Was the overhype of covid deliberate? Is climate change as dire as they say or is the science hyped to create a political/ economic outcome.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:56am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    There is no such thing as zero emissions, otherwise humans would have to be ruled from the earth
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:07am
  - Unity
    
    I don’t think climate change is a hoax either because it has always changed and always will. It’s been much much colder and much much warmer over the centuries and long before the industrial revolution. The hoax is that it is caused by man. That we could be so clever as to change the climate. Also, we are a tiny little island at the bottom of the world. Anything we achieve in reducing emissions would be undone by the big polluting nations, China etc. Having said all of that we should definitely do something about pollution especially the waterways and the air but it won’t change the climate one iota. And – lay off our farmers. They are essential to our wellbeing and are having enormous costs added to their livelihoods which will affect us all. They are doing their utmost to reduce emissions but there’s only so much they do before it becomes uneconomical for them to continue. Do we want that?
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:57pm
- Nickc2
  
  Aussies IMO have short term memories. They suffered badly under the Rudd – Gillard – Rudd Govts and seem to have forgotten that era.
  “There will be no carbon tax under the Government I lead,” said Julia Gillard prior to the election. However, as soon as she parked her fat arse in the PM’s Chair, she implemented a Carbon Tax.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:41am
- Jim
  
  I bet Robbo and Ardern (“NZ CPI impact is a global issue”) are gleefully waiting for the potential economic effects on our neighbouring economy, in order to have another (more localised) comparison of globalised economic downturn.
  I’m fully expecting the shill NZ press to not consider hard questions around similarities in excess financial stimulus to fund their common green and covid emergencies.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:08am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The brain drain may stop, they will say it’s cause of Chubby fingers success.
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:13am
- Matt Long
  
  Does anyone know how the protest vote and preferences for freedom parties went in Australia? I think Pauline Hanson has lost her seat.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:20am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Hanson may have lost her seat, but i did see early on that the party had 3% more of the vote to last time , wasted split voting right there
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:09pm
- Simon
  
  Australian election result = further harm heaped upon society by the state.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:22am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  We have to be careful to not scuttle the vote here, any of these fringe parties will see Ardern slide in, Matt King is a worry if he takes a couple of% unless he can win Northland which I doubt
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:46am
- NZer In Exile
  
  At the end of the day just too many people were sucked in by the climate hype machine. Morrison realised he was up against this (no point trying to convince hordes of thoroughly brainwashed zombies) so was meeting the chicken-little CO2 targets but in a way that didn’t destroy the economy. People are in for a world of hurt once the climate hype brigade shortly get their tentacles into everything. Basically throwing petrol on the inflation fire.
  
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  May 23, 2022 2:09pm
- jon
  
  After nine long years in opposition, it looks like Australian Labour are going to limp over the line into majority govt, with the required 76 seats. I’d wager within 18 months the Albanese govt will be trailing badly in the polls.
  
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  May 23, 2022 4:03pm
mikenmildagain

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Specially for iMP, a religious theme today.
After protestants lost the divine power to create saints, I didn’t realise that they still craved the ability to mark out special people for perpetual gratitude.
for the US Episcopalians (ie, proper establishment Christians), today is a special day for the pre-modern scientists Copernicus and Kepler. They even have their own special prayer:

As the heavens declare your glory, O God, and the firmament shows your handiwork, we bless your Name for the gifts of knowledge and insight you bestowed upon Nicolaus Copernicus and Johannes Kepler; and we pray that you would continue to advance our understanding of your cosmos, for our good and for your glory; through Jesus Christ, the firstborn of all creation, who with you and the Holy Spirit lives and reigns, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.
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May 23, 2022 8:03am
- kowtow
  
  ‘craved the ability to mark out special people for perpetual gratitude.’
  
  Just like Labour , Greens , Maori Party and media do here now.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:39am
- Simon
  
  Interesting. Would these saints have the moral blueprint to admit to widespread vaccination injuries for e.g. Compare to NZ’s current lot on a moral basis. Ardern follows “the science” like its a religion but unlike these saints she could not admit to making horrible mistakes.
  
  You could ask these Saints questions about their religious beliefs, something we are unable to do with Ardern.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:14am
  - Matt Long
    
    The Saints were mainly people people who stood against the flow of mainstream culture which is why they stood out and were often killed or imprisoned or otherwise mandated to silence.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:33am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Okay. Copernicus and Kepler are not ‘saints’ in the Catholic idea of semi-divine beings whose magical powers may be invoked against specific ails, etc. They are just remembered by name with special prayers of gratitude by the Episcopalians.
    Better ask the Pope who he plans to canonize in respect of the pandemic. Could be waiting a while, though. Pope John Paul II was beatified only 6 years after his death, and canonized another 3 years after that. We could hardly expect such a speedy process for heroes of the pandemic.
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:15am
Matt Long

Matthew’s in the city relieved that last sybol of despised religious figure finally gone.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300593617/watch-person-walks-into-central-auckland-church-steals-altar-cross-leaves
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May 23, 2022 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Scrap metal thief? There is a lot of it going on.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:10am
  - kowtow
    
    They couldn’t get away with it if it weren’t for the “receivers” turning a blind eye.
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:13am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Cut it into pieces on a commercial bandsaw and sell at different scrap buyers.
      
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      May 23, 2022 8:31am
      - kowtow
        
        Golly , I’m very naive .
        
        But then it seems like a lot of work and expense to go to for a few bob.
        
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        May 23, 2022 8:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Are you supplementing your retirement income?
        
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        May 23, 2022 9:52am
Tony Stuart

If Grant Robertson was planning a cost of living payment at the start of the year, three months before Labour agreed with National that we have a cost of living crisis, why was Treasury advice that it was a bad idea only delivered on 4th May, two weeks before the Budget?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/heather-du-plessis-allan-signs-the-budget-was-cobbled-together/S4DN2ICR24IU7MFFQ2YKYV7LRM/

Has Grant Robertson been telling porkies?
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May 23, 2022 8:05am
- Tricati
  
  It’s simple – Robertson is a liar, through & through
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:07am
  - gravedodger
    
    Dishonesty???
    If you want acorns look under oak trees, they do not fall far from the trunk?
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:49am
- All_on_Red
  
  If you are going to start listing Labour’s (and the Greens) lies, then you’re going to need a bigger Blog.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:09am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Some lies are more egregious than others.
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:15am
    - kowtow
      
      “We’re saving lives”
      
      Gotta be the bigliest.
      
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      May 23, 2022 8:43am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Robbo telling porkies? absolutely.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:10am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    Pinocchio’s nose grew when he lied. It appears that Robertson’s equivalent giveaway is his waist.
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:27pm
- pdm
  
  `Has Grant Robertson been telling porkies?’
  
  AGAIN!!!!
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:12am
  - Biscuit
    
    Far be it for me to defend Robbo but there is empirical evidence that he hasn’t ben telling porkies but rather has been EATING them…
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I thought Robertson left the porkie telling to Jaspinda? She is an expert, able to cover a lie with word soup waffle.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:36am
  - kowtow
    
    Nah ,the Media Pardy do the covering for her.
    
    By the simple expedient of never asking the hard questions.
    
    Lap dogs that they are.( Until it’s a “Tory” in their sights and then it’s constant yapping)
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:44am
  - pdm
    
    Steve – he has always been pretty quick to back her up though.
    
    Complicit by association and actions.
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:49am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Him and the Duck
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:14am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I note in the house he has stopped jumping to her rescue, is he sharpening the knives while Dizzys is on the plane
      
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      May 23, 2022 11:20am
  - nathie
    
    That’s because they luv to share the porkie telling around …. unsurprisingly the PM deflected that accusation, stating that only piles of sausage rolls are shared around.
    
    Robbo gleefully confirmed that is the case to skeptical reporters, as evidenced by his budget breakfast of piled up sausage rolls.
    
    Skeptical journos went away confused reporting that word soup being dished out again, as a result Cabinet Ministers rushed off to Bellamy’s thinking they had opened early.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:03am
- RoboRob
  
  This is clearly a case of labour needing to shut down the ‘Nothing in the budget for people who work for a living’ line. The choice of $27 is to avoid the ‘justa block of cheese’ attack. This is clearly just a political move.
  
  However, like the temporary 35c fuel reduction (and most other policy), this is poorly thought out. The negative publicity of putting up fuel by 35c and dropping benefits by $27 (just in time for Christmas) will hurt the goverment much more that the temporary positive ‘feelz’ they are getting now.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:00am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, like the fuel tax this was rapidly out together, a as bd it is what happens when you haven’t got a clue, it’s sticking out like dog balls that Nats threshold changes is going to make a big difference, when I was younger the thresholds changed with inflation when you did ya tax at the end of April, it would make a difference
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:26am
  - Flossie
    
    Where do you get your fuel? I’m sure ours was only reduced 25 cents!
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:36am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It actually reduced 29cents, 4 cents GST, and the 25cents, but at the very time it was going down as i remember , there was also some cuts to petrol prices, 91 octane was as low as $2.36 at NPP in Dunedin, but that is back up to $2.80, a few more cents and they will be at the point they cut the tax , it may well mean more cuts and they will be loathed to put the tax back on in 3 months. poor polling is the problem for these hypocrites
      
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      May 23, 2022 2:15pm
- Simon
  
  So much garbage for National to roll back.
  
  The cost of the basics like food and energy is a government created problem.
  
  Can National undertake to drop the GST rate to 10%, with Luxon’s unmatched problem solving skills to work out government inefficencies to cover the tax drop?
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:19am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I bet Labour drop GST next year leading into the election, that is why they were looking at a wealth tax last month , not the anger of another tax has made the wealth tax thing go quiet. wait a couple of weeks when voters realise they will be taxed quite a few dollars for the job tax which passed its third reading the other night , and man if the $350 handout is taxed which i think it will be, what a shit storm Chubby fingers will be fighting
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:18pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Robertson has always told porkies, you only have to look at the difference in the budget extra allotment, it was 6 billion the week before, then it amazingly leapt to 6.9 billion extra, I suggest the .9 bill will be added rapidly, but man he was punished from all quarters over this, wait till people realise the pittance will be taxed, n(note it was not called a tax free grant) mine e we I’ll be taxed at 30 cents, leaving about 220 bucks, pathetic
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:18am
Pavel

Interesting article in stuffed this morning about a new Kāinga Ora development in New Plymouth. 45 temporary accommodation units to be built in the city centre. They speak to those for and against it. I’d of thought one would only have to look at the way they manage their temporary accommodation motels around NZ to see how this is going to turn out.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/128524328/split-views-among-neighbours-of-new-plymouths-newest-central-city-public-housing-development
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May 23, 2022 8:07am
- Benedict Yu
  
  It may not turn out well, but this is ‘transitional housing’, not the ’emergency housing’ in motels. Kainga Ora does not manage the emergency housing. That is all done by MSD.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:44am
  - Pavel
    
    Doesn’t matter what department manages it. Government run housing, in a high density format, is a recipe for disaster no matter where it is or what group it is to cater for. 2 or 3 townhouses on a residential section works but 45 in one complex, past examples prove otherwise.
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:15pm
    - artemisia
      
      Completely agree. But of course antisocial neighbours in a high density development will be given high priority for a permanent state house. And they are well aware.
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  45? Seriously? Let us know when they finish, or when it turns to shit like everything else the Govt touches.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:17am
- artemisia
  
  Transitional housing is supposed to be for emergency housing situations for up to 3 months. So half of these new units are for single people / couples with no children, mostly singles. If they don’t ‘transition’ to permanent public housing there is an expectation they will move on to private rentals. Good luck with either of those options.
  
  So after the 12 weeks where do the occupants go? Simple – they stay. Temporary in name only.
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:30am
- Unity
  
  I’m getting very tired of all these Maori words for things that everyone could understand if they used an English word. Everyone speaks English so surely it’s not too hard to cater for ‘everyone’. I’m never sure what they are referring to when something is given a Maori name.
  
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  May 23, 2022 2:10pm
Tomtoddy

Stuff has a long article discussing the Govt handouts to the media. An independent review showed up just how the public see the funding – bribes for supportive stories and for Treaty promotion.

Stuff rushes to defend themselves and justify their very clear bias as did the Ferald recently. No amount of excusing and explaining will convince NZ’ers that the whole exercise is disgraceful probably the worst in the country’s media history. The very fact that money was handed out was bad enough but putting demands on it was what turned it into an obvious attempt to control what was written.

This Govt is so arrogant that they believe they can get away with it and so ignorant they don’t realise the damage they are doing.
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May 23, 2022 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  Was the item “open for comment”.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:14am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Briefly, then when they saw the tone and direction of the comments they were quickly shut down. “Open and transparent” the media in NZ are not. And they apparently can’t understand why the public have zero trust in them.
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:58am
    - oldfella
      
      Here’s the article. Not surprised they shut down further comments as most of the ones that are still up are brutal. And deserved.
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300586494/55m-for-your-troubles-the-problem-with-journalism#comments
      
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      May 23, 2022 11:34am
- Cinematic
  
  Either the collective intellect within the msm has faded badly over the last few decades or they’re choosing to be wilfully ignorant. It’s probably a combination.
  
  But here’s the rub, do they really believe they can overturn such a perception by claiming innocence? It doesn’t work that way – plonkers the lot of them.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:14am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Such an amazing contrast from the pre online days. I was recently reading about the history of Australian newspaper empires run by Murdoch and Packer. They were gold mines, with enormous amounts of money made from classified advertising. The Saturday edition of the Sydney Morning Herald used to be hundreds of pages, crammed with real estate and job ads. This generated immense wealth for these media families. It also generated power, and their editorial stance could influence election outcomes.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:49am
  - fisho
    
    Yep. If I was a conspiracy theorist I’d be tempted to think the main stream media and real estate industry form a cartel that has been artificially driving house upwards prices for decades by creating and continuing to stoke a false, or at least overinflated, narrative. FOMO is a powerful tool.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:18am
  - mogg
    
    I have read the Kerry Packer bio, it is quite fascinating. How Bob Hawke virtually doubled the family’s wealth overnight with a change in the media ownership laws. Plus the many scandals.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:30am
  - Matt Long
    
    Google says thanks for generating the advertising demand suckers.
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:33pm
- RoboRob
  
  There is probably much more money being funnelled to the media through a wave of pointless advertising from all government departments. Massive ‘road to zero’ advertising, Covid ‘be nice to each other’ and ACC advertising that they pay you when you are injured are just a few of many examples.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:03am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  With the public seeing the media being bribed, it’s a clear message people will blame the briber. It’s also a good indicator of public sentiment, possibly a better indicator than a poll
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:28am
- surfing
  
  I note how stuff avoided any critical opinion on the iwi ownership component of three waters … this is the govt handout doing its job , suppressing free speech.
  
  Sunlive, our local bay of plenty rag, is a shocker. They’ve determined that co-governance has been voted on and accepted by the people of new zealand and there is nothing left to argue.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:33pm
Im Right

Anyone see the Stuff article yesterday regarding the Aussie election and the Covid fall out of leaders (basically saying ‘will this happen in NZ’)….107 comments, comments closed, article no longer on Stuff! I can only assume the comments were anti govt/anti Arden that it’s been closed off for comments and taken down so quickly?
Didn’t get the chance to view the comments so I’m only surmising the reason it was taken down so quickly (knowing Stuff, as I do, I would assume so…had it been a piece ridiculing or demeaning ACT/National I’m sure it would still be up and open for comments)
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May 23, 2022 8:11am
- Blog-aholic
  
  This one?
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/128718810/what-the-australian-election-could-be-telling-jacinda-ardern#comments
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I wonder if these articles are carrots just to get you reading and then when it disappears, you are still there reading? We know the media are lowlifes.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:43am
- RoboRob
  
  I suspect labour are already planning for there loss next year. Grant is busy emptying the coffers and putting in new rules to make life for whoever the next government is. Hint, he wouldn’t be doing that if he thought he was going to be finance minister in the next term.
  
  However they don’t think they will lose because of poor policy or mismanagement. No, it’s simply Covid and all covid governments are getting removed.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:07am
  - Flossie
    
    All covid governments being removed? Wasn’t Macron recently re-elected in France? And Trudeau returned to the job in Canada last year.
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:53am
    - RoboRob
      
      I meant that Labour would claim a loss next year was nothing to do with policy / performance and everything to do with Covid. They would say (JA has already said it publicly) that around the world Covid governments are getting voted out.
      
      I personally think that if they lose it will be due to their totally inept handling of every issue.
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:23pm
Maggy Wassilieff

United Kingdom is heading for “apocalyptic” food price rises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuxZ5bSlBA8

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/bank-of-england-boss-warns-about-apocalyptic-food-price-rises-and-urges-workers-to-reflect-before-asking-for-higher-wages/articleshow/91615198.cms

I wonder how long before Our Reserve Bank Governor warns us of an impending Food Price crisis.
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May 23, 2022 8:12am
- RoboRob
  
  Meanwhile the Greens want us to reduce our food production.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:08am
- nathie
  
  It’s a worry …. and will the Left still insist on grain being produced for biofuels (rather than feeding the starving)?
  
  https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/05/19/the-coming-food-catastrophe
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:12am
- gravedodger
  
  Don’t stress over prices Maggy, availability will be the far greater problem genuine starvation looms large even here in this land of plenty.
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:53am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

NZ Heath $11.1 billion funding. Only 2.3% allocated for Maori. What? Are Maori special? How much allocated for Asian, Pacific Islanders, other minority races?
This should be NZ Health $11.1 billion funding funding full stop. Division is getting NZ nowhere.
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May 23, 2022 8:16am
- Cinematic
  
  Division is in fact getting NZ somewhere. To an ugly unhappy destination full of in-fighting and self-loathing. Why Labour wants to take us all there is beyond me.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:20am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    Ideology.
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:45pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Do folks really believe that Maori are being denied 97.7% of the Health Budget?
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I did think of it that way too, but I might get labeled ‘racist’
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:46am
  - Ehlana
    
    Probably 97.7% of Maoris don’t believe that Maggy. But it’s vitally important to the other 2.3% that they get control of half the government Health spending. How else can they honour the Treaty?
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:30am
- cmm
  
  “Maori Health” is clearly not about the delivery of health services to Maori people.
  
  I doubt very much that the Maori guy in hospital with me was getting his care costs chalked up to “Maori Health” any more than the Asian guy in another bed was being accounted as “Asian Health”.
  
  Nope, “Maori Health” is really not about health. It is a trough created in the medical budget which is used to buy taniwha food etc.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yup, and that is why they are saying 2.3% is not enough. As usual, more more more.
    
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    May 23, 2022 8:47am
  - Ruahine
    
    ‘Maori Health’ gets lots of white painted SUVs with lots of Te Reo written on the sides.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:07am
  - kevn
    
    @cmm… Cars are another favourite expense.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:25am
- Hebe123
  
  Isn’t that 11.3m mostly for setting up the AHA (apartheid health authority)?
  
  Should add that to the 2.3%.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:08am
- mogg
  
  How much is allocated to Pakeha?
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:34am
G152

Posted elsewhere by some-one else.

2014: Only 500 Days Before “Climate Chaos’

2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015 (additional link)

2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter

2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014

2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World

2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to “Save The Planet From Catastrophe’

2009: Glaciers gone at Glacier National Park by 2020

2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018

2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013

2006: Super Hurricanes!

2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020

2005: Manhattan Underwater by 2015

2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024

2004: Guardian newspaper said a “secret report” from the Pentagon to President
George W. Bush said climate change would “destroy us.”

2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy

2002: Peak Oil in 2010

2001: No snow on Mount Kilimanjaro by 2020

2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is

2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past

2000: Pacific islands economies devastated

1996: Peak Oil in 2020

1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)

1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000

1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From
Global Warming

1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)

1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s

1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs

1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by
2018

1987: Average global temperature up 3 degrees Celsius

1986: Sea level around Florida will rise 3 feet by 2020

1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes (additional link)

1980: Peak Oil In 2000

1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend (additional link)

1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 1990s

1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent

1975: The Cooling World and a Drastic Decline in Food Production

1974: Another Ice Age?

1974: Ozone Depletion a “Great Peril to Life (data and graph)

1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast

1972: New Ice Age By 2070

1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years

1972: Pending Depletion and Shortages of Gold, Tin, Oil, Natural Gas, Copper,
Aluminum

1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030

1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980

1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish

1970: Ice Age By 2000

1970: Killer Bees! Killer Bees!

1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable

1970: Oceans Dead in a Decade, US Water Rationing by 1974, Food Rationing by
1980

1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985

1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources

1970: Population Bomb to Cause Global Famine by 2000

1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)

1969: Worldwide Plague, Overwhelming Pollution, Ecological Catastrophe, Virtual
Collapse of UK by End of 20th Century

1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975

1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
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May 23, 2022 8:17am
- H. Upmann
  
  I cannot remember where or when I read it, but by 1985 Manhattan would be under 2 1/2metres (8 feet) of water.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:28am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I think it was 85 when Gore predicted that Manahattan to be under water, i thought it was by 2006, but i see above it says 2018, as i said i have been there in 2003, and my missuses sister who lives there says the water level is still the same
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:26pm
- bjools
  
  some history
  https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/the-revolutionary-war/1776
  to bracket the “cause” (industrial revolution)
  1812, Napoleon defeated by coldest winter in memory.
  1942, Hitler defeated by coldest winter on record
  2072….?????
  every 130yrs….approx.?
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:35am
- gravedodger
  
  Don’t stop there G152,
  “Peace in our time”, Neville Chamberlain UK Prime Minister c1938, poor bugger didn’t live to see the full extent of that failure.
  Then the “Dewey Defeats Truman” as a headliner in Chicago Daily Tribune (later Chicago Tribune) on November 3, 1948.
  .
  Just a couple more for that significant list G
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:01am
- mawm
  
  The catastrophists have added “pandemics” to their predictions. Nothing has turned out to be true and yet people keep on believing them!
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:02am
- kowtow
  
  I recall an article in the Guardian , I believe it was,some 20 years ago forecasting Perth would be abandoned due to no water .
  
  How’s that one goin’.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:27pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I have been to manhattan in 2003, the missus sister has lived there since 1999, i asked her how close Manhattan is to going under water, and she said well the pier 24 she gets off on the ferry is still the same place it was when she went there in 99, there is the same amount of room with-in tidal movements as there was 23 years ago , 2018 under water, its time these things were questioned , but for some reason people will not answer
  
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  May 23, 2022 2:23pm
kowtow

Now that the Media Pardy is hyping up their latest bit of catastrophism , monkeypox pox , will they call for superspreader events that celebrate “diversity” to be cancelled ?

For borders to be closed to high risk travellers , for mandatory quarantine to folk who were close exposures ?
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May 23, 2022 8:18am
RockyJ

Yesterday I asked Kiwibloggers if anyone knew what the protest on the Auckland harbour bridge was about. No one did. The media report was just that the protest happened, traffic was blocked, people arrested Yardley, Yardley.
Think also of the decades long protest that has been held every day on Great South Road, Greenlane, outside the Chinese High Commission in Auckland. This vigil has been conducted in a quiet dignified way by members of Falun Gong. It has been remarkable yet the media report nothing about it. I bet most of you were not aware of it.
The point is that by conducting selective reporting on protests the media are guarranteeing that future protests will be forced to become more extreme, more disruptive and more violent in order to get attention.
But then when did our media ever look at themselves to consider how much they have become an arm of this government? Or consider their own role in ensuring a peaceful democracy?
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May 23, 2022 8:22am
- MCōs
  
  As I commented yesterday and I think someone else did it was anti three waters according to what I read somewhere.
  
  Falun Gong hand out literature every week at the Avondale Market.
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:56am
  - RockyJ
    
    They probably got it from social media. This just goes to reinforce my opinion that we are the most well informed generation that has ever existed
    Despite the government and msm trying to filter what we learn social media allows us to do our own filtering.
    Ain’t free speech great?
    
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    May 23, 2022 4:09pm
Maggie Pie

Watch for 3 years of f**k-ups with Elmer Fudd at the wheel 😀

https://twitter.com/steve_rolfe/status/1528154835547475968
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May 23, 2022 8:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Elmer don’t got no gun anymore…….
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:52am
- plc
  
  https://twitter.com/CaldronPool/status/1528215569237180416?s=20&t=ICvt24D62A8hS2XO3eXmiA
  
  Seriously……WTF????!!!!!
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:01am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  “Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!” As Elmer points to his ass.
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, i watched him a few times on the campaign trail, and he was a complete balls up on several of his own policies , utterly hopeless , what could possibly go wrong
  
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  May 23, 2022 2:27pm
MCōs

From what I understand Mr Morrison’s government was sunk not so much by any great swing to Labor, except in WA, but by the Liberals indifference to climate change and women’s issues in the metropolitan areas.
The National Party vote out in the countryside seems to have held up, but the Liberals lost seats to female independent candidates.
Could that be the Achilles heel of the Nats here? Will something similar happen here? It’s a lot harder with MMP which is far more biased towards parties than independents. Maybe the Greens will replace Shaw with Chlöe and put more emphasis on women’s issues.
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- kowtow
  
  For starters they are not “independent”. They’re funded by a super rich white guy who seems to have a beef against the Liberals.
  
  Wimmin’s issues ?
  
  Again the Libs had that covered with Deves but the media smashed her for standing up for wimmin’s and girl’s rights.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:36am
- Cinematic
  
  Women are leaving Labour for National in droves. High cost of living and a dawning recognition that Labour simply can’t deliver. Chloe nobody won’t make a lick of difference.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:39am
- MCōs
  
  I read yesterday this picture lost Morrison a million women’s votes
  https://twitter.com/PeterWMurphy1/status/1318485158954115072?s=20&t=FT9jhWFBKRWEN-badA4N3g
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:40am
- David George
  
  Greens will………..put more emphasis on women’s issues.”
  Really? They’re more interested in imaginary women (trans whanau as Marama would have it) than real ones.
  Let’s see, who have they alienated already: motorists, gun owners, farmers, men, women, European Kiwis – AKA colonists.
  Their core constituency is an unemployed, carless, trans gender Maori. Good luck with that.
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:46am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Plus the halfwits that can’t see past the green label.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:32am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Yep. Worth pointing out to older women who think the Greens still care about the environment.
      
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      May 23, 2022 10:12pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Greens benefited from the Coalition protest votes. We can only hope it doesn’t happen here, the Greens are all mad hatters.
  Gave you an uptick anyway
  
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  May 23, 2022 8:56am
  - MCōs
    
    Over in Oz the Greens went from being a very minor party to a minor party.
    With 71% of the votes counted they had two seats and independents ten.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:11am
    - graham
      
      Some years back I remember thinking that the Greens here were doing extremely well, the current Opposition (Labour, from memory – I can’t remember how long ago this was) and wondered if the Greens might actually manage to become a third major party.
      
      Then the lunatic fringe took over, and now they’re firmly back to being a minor party, destined to only ever attract the hardcore faithful. Hard to see that changing in the near future, with the activists pushing out the few sensible people that still remain.
      
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      May 23, 2022 10:16am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Swarbrick is our MP. She has to be the biggest waste of space in the seat in decades. She has contributed absolutely nothing to any conversation except useless additions to the swathe of word salads that the left are so fond of. She should open a vegan restaurant.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:10am
  - H. Upmann
    
    My daughter has just moved from Auckland Central to Epsom electorate.
    It did not occur to her at the time of buying the new place, but over this weekend told me she is very thankful she no longer has a “useless virtue signalling self publicist as an MP”.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:42am
  - amospicton
    
    Compare and contrast with the MP in neighbouring Epsom who is spending his Sundays for the next month running a series of street corner meetings.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:54am
  - Hebe123
    
    do you think she could successfully run a business?
    Please don’t malign all vegans on the basis of her/him.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:55am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What annoyed me was the woman that stood for Nats was an extremely good candidate,, pretty sure she will be a lost possibility for the Nats now, i see she got married and is clearly working elsewhere , and i have not heard her pop up in the odd party mention.
    Another thing you may like to know if you are in the Auckland central seat, is Nikki Kaye has started regularly posting on her FB page where she was posting as an MP, not her personal page , but her MP page, she did post something a bit cryptic the other day, it was a pic with her and the cat , but it said only i feel a change of heart, take that with a grain of salt, but just maybe she might be back, and she probably will beat Chloe
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:35pm
    - H. Upmann
      
      Emma Mellow was National 2020 candidate and yes, was potentially very good. Sad to hear she is off the political radar.
      I am in Epsom; Auckland Central IMO is a lost cause for National in the foreseeable unfortunately.
      
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      May 23, 2022 6:24pm
- RoboRob
  
  No it won’t, because the Nats have correctly realised they need to at least pretend to believe in climate change too. It’s why so many here call them labour lite.
  
  Ironically, the Key government did much, much, much better on reducing emissions than the current Labour / Green govt.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:11am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Not ironically. Labour is only capable of talking about what they would do if they were competent.
    National actually get it done.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:11am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Really? What measures did the Key Government take to reduce emissions?
    
    The drivers of emissions have little to do with governments. Emissions fell after 2008 following the GFC. Post 2017 growth was strong until COVID and emissions increased, mainly driven by more cars on the road.
    
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/new-zealands-greenhouse-gas-emissions
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:31am
    - RoboRob
      
      The graph on your link actually shows what I am talking about. After recovery from the GFC, emissions were lower than prior (under Helen) and trending down (2013-2016). On labours arrival in 2017 the trend reversed and has been rising. My understanding is that 2021 (not shown) was a significant rise. Labour was helped by COVID shutting the economy down for an extended period and still managed to increase emissions.
      
      Governments can have a major impact on emissions. Labours failure to increase electricity supply in NZ (identified as a major issue by energy minister Megan Woods in here inaugural speech) coupled with policies that destroyed the gas supply have led to a massive increase in the amount of dirty (imported) coal being burned. Cars are a major emitter, yet Labour has also had the benefit of a big jump in EVs, yet still emissions increased. That’s because energy production is a far bigger emitter.
      
      Key may or may not have had Green policy that reduced emissions, but his competent management of the economy allowed the march of technology and the market to naturally bring emissions down. labours hands on policy has just stuffed things up.
      
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      May 23, 2022 12:18pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Emissions have gone up under Labour, and they did drop under Nats , even with the lift in foreigners to the country
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:37pm
- Surely Knott
  
  The independent in NZ is a guy not a woman. Matt King, democracy party, is our new independent party. It’s tough with MMP. If you vote for someone independent you might not make the 5%. So hard for those independents to get the confidence. But he’s putting in the work and getting a good response. And his values re liberalism and democracy are in the right place.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:17am
  - Ross Campbell
    
    Matt King would be better off finding some secure employment because he has no chance of being elected to Parliament.
    Any vote for his new party is a wasted vote but if you feel so inclined go right ahead.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:18am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      Self-fulfilling prophesy. With that kind of thinking, no change can or will ever happen. In fact, with that kind of thinking, we’d all still be sitting in caves picking ticks off one another. Voting for any of the main parties ensures a 0% chance of real change, whereas going off the mental plantation and voting for someone else gives a greater than 0% chance of change.
      
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      May 23, 2022 12:53pm
    - Hebe123
      
      Nobody thought Bob Jones could do it in the 80s either and he went from zero to 13% or so.
      Unfortunately before MMP.
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:45pm
    - Yabster
      
      Matt King will be gutted he has no chance, as declared by the political mastermind Rosco… but you are free to waste your vote-thanks for that Rosco, most generous of you.
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:53pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    If ACT can do it, others can too.
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:41pm
- gravedodger
  
  Morrison’s mob out polled Albo’s, probably fake news Aye.
  One third of voters rejected both majors???
  Simple Simons Mob holding ten seats and Greens holding four, up from one each?
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:05am
- Yabster
  
  they were sunk due to the shit handling of covid- ours was far worse, add to that the maorification of verything, 3 waters, He Pua Pua – cost of living and Labour will be toast – good riddance.
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:15am
cmm

Oh dear, maybe Cindy’s not going to get her hair sniffed.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-jacinda-arderns-united-states-trip-covid-complication-for-white-house-joe-biden-visit/CCCRB4YCJUT36MGBACVGAUAXJU/
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May 23, 2022 8:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Complicated – meeting not confirmed yet. Now why die Jaspinda not say that on play school TV1 this morning? She was asked twice, but went off on unintelligible tangents.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:00am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Biden is going to be pretty exhausted after his East Asian stint.
    
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/18/5-challenges-biden-asia-tour-00033496
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:11am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  She’s about 30 years too old for Biden anyway.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:55pm
Cassandra

MCos has it correctly. Women in Australia voted for action on climate change and a generally softer approach. Credlin is in lala land if she believes that a more right wing approach would have won. Like it or not (and I don’t) National here will have to pander to the left, at least in some respects. Luxon might be the answer after all. The skill will be to pick the issues on which keep left will be appropriate. On climate making the right noises will be the answer. National will, however, be able to be sensible on the racism issue. A substantial majority does not want two systems.
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May 23, 2022 8:49am
- amospicton
  
  Agree Cassandra but that’s why we need a strong ACT presence to ensure National are more than just more efficient implementers of Labour policy. I’m desperate to get rid of these clowns but we also need the damage undone. We’re going to need genuine policy change.
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:57am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Interesting to hear the Epidemiologist on with Kate Hawkesby earlier.
He was saying ‘Monkey-Pox’ is spreading thru Europe’s male gay community like wildfire….with over 100 cases reported to date 🙁

And according to NDTV, the most recent confirmed cases have been in Brussels, linked to a large scale ‘Fetish-Festival’ in the port city of Antwerp.
The festival, known as ‘Darklands’, attracts various tribes in the gay fetish community (leather, rubber, army, skinheads, puppies) where they all come together to create a unique spectacle of Fetish Brotherhood.

The other area of concern mentioned by Katie’s guest, involved gay males working in Exotic Pet Shops.

If you missed it, thought it worth sharing with the group.
Please feel free to uptick if you’re straight, or downtick if you’re a gay Zookeeper.
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May 23, 2022 8:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Monkeypox has a silent “k”
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:02am
  - kevn
    
    @SteveO… Gate$ will come up with a $olution.
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:33am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Interesting Maggie, 2 gay zookeepers so far. Wouldn’t it be fascinating to be able to see the names!
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:15am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    At least Batz knows who they are 😀
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:41am
- krazykiwi
  
  “gay males working in Exotic Pet Shops”
  
  This is where the Pet Shop Boys got their band name back in the 1980’s.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Savage
    
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    May 23, 2022 9:34am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Not really. Just true!
      
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      May 23, 2022 9:51pm
- Hebe123
  
  the expert they interviewed on The Platform earlier said you basically had to shag a monkey to catch it 🙂
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:57am
nathie

Notice the MSM pushing the lines that the PM is meant to meet President Biden (but may not due to various reasons).

Would have thought a meeting would have been lined up and announced in advance, like they were pre-Open and Transparent Govt coming to power?

If so is this wishful thinking on behalf of the PM’s spinners or the MSM fan club?
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May 23, 2022 9:07am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wonder if the US will put out the red carpet for Jaspinda?
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:46am
  - mawm
    
    I think a lot depends on whether Biden’s mental stimulants have kicked in.
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:10am
- Ehlana
  
  Isn’t Biden going to Japan to meet with the Japanese, the Indians and the Australians on security matters? (https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pm-modi-joe-biden-on-new-australian-prime-ministers-one-to-one-meet-list-2997991)
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:01am
- Harry Knuts
  
  the more accurate statement would be: Jacinda has tried multiple times to meet Biden but so far he’s said “i’m busy”.
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:02am
  - greybeard
    
    I would have thought that Biden would be falling over himself to meet her.
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:01pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Someone new to sniff?
      
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      May 23, 2022 4:25pm
bjools

I see that Biden has finally acted on the baby formula crisis.
They have imported 35000Kg from the EU (Germany I think).
To give you an idea what the looks like.
NZ population = 5mill
USA population = 350mill
ie a factor 70
So 35000Kg in the USA is equivalent to 500Kgs here….ie 1/2 a pallet.
Now you know how underwhelming it is.
A single supermarket could order that much here.
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May 23, 2022 9:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It would help if the men stopped getting pregnant and having babies. Formula is needed because the men can’t chest feed.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:48am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Trumpy would have fixed the Baby Formula crisis in 10 minutes!
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:04am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      There would be no crisis if Trump was still POTUS. Putin would not have invaded Ukraine. It’s all about negotiating. His words: ‘you do not have to like someone to respect them, and with that respect both parties gain respect’ or something similar.
      
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      May 23, 2022 12:01pm
- Hebe123
  
  I read somewhere yesterday that the main ingredient in baby formula in the US is high fructose corn syrup.
  Might be doing a generation of kids a favour by getting rid of it.
  My mum said that we all got cows milk as kids as she didn’t “chest feed”. Didn’t seem to do too much harm as we all have good science degrees and are well above average height.
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:59am
  - Sacha
    
    We mixed up a formula that included cows milk, adapted to the individual baby’s nutritional needs and weight gains. Babies with food allergies had goat milk mixes.
    The Plunket Nurse would come and weigh the baby and adjust the formula. But back then most women breast fed their babies, and there were no commercially made formulas.
    It could be done again – as long as there were cows t supply the milk.
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:43pm
  - kowtow
    
    I suspect it is not “the main ingredient”
    
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    May 23, 2022 4:09pm
- Paulus
  
  I thought I hard that the importations were by air from Belgium, and Holland c/-Nestle.
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:03am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  This is yet another symptom that speaks to a wider issue. Whatever happened to women breast feeding? Do we need so much baby formula in 2022 because women are having babies much later than they always have, and thus cannot produce sufficient breast milk, and/or because the modern diet is so artificial and lacking in proper nutrition that breast milk is an inferior source of sustenance for babies.
  
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  May 23, 2022 1:02pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Breast feeding is a hassle? Convenience is king?
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:39pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Some people have always been unable to breast feed, Radion, and, yes, some do not want to. The issue in the US is a limited number of local suppliers and a difficult process for approving overseas suppliers which stops them trying. One of the larger (40% market share) local suppliers has had one of its largest factories shut down over possible infection issues. Hence, local market shortages.
    
    Harrowing stuff if you are a parent with a child that needs a particular medical formula and have to spend all day driving around looking for someplace that has it.
    
    If common sense were a thing, countries would develop common standards, so that what is fit for consumption by Japanese babies could be recognised as also fit for consumption in New Zealand or the USA. Unfortunately politics intervenes. I suspect much “local approval” is really protectionism in another guise.
    
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    May 23, 2022 3:57pm
Cassandra

The Speaker is off on a jolly, to Europe. ACT is boycotting this trip – a waste of money. National is sending Judith Collins and Barbara Kuriger. The whole delegation are not prominent members of their parties, either has beens or never wases. Apart from a commemoration of the Battle for Crete (to which we should be sending the PM or Governor General) it’s just a toddle around Europe.m total waste of money. ACT right again.
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May 23, 2022 9:09am
- bjools
  
  Is this the same trip as
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/everyone-in-a-tizz-over-paris-harawira/DSCIF6XTQBVTGBGQPMFPRXZ55Q/
  Holidays for the MP’s.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:58am
- MCōs
  
  Those speaker’s jaunts have be a staple of parliamentary life for at least 21yrs and David Seymour has been complaining about them for at least seven years.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/act-speakers-taxpayer-funded-european-tour-of-little-value/SB3JNLPKAI5YCPPFXUYS73MWYM/?c_id=1&objectid=11429686
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:07am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Time to cancel them then.
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:53am
- kowtow
  
  Any “climate emergency” Greens going ?
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:20am
krazykiwi

Actors standing next to their stunt doubles
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May 23, 2022 9:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is so true.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:50am
- bjools
  
  Confused…..the last picture appears to be of 2 actors.
  The only stunt work they have done is flick flacks of principles.
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:41am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  Obama never truly ran anything either, though. He’s a mannequin in the same way that Biden is.
  
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  May 23, 2022 1:04pm
ClanMcleod

Wow, just when I thought it would be impossible to come up with a wild, crazy conspiracy theory after two years of all the old ones coming true, up steps the CEO of Pfizer to save the day!!

“Microchips In Pills To Force Compliance Are REAL Says Pfizer CEO”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-TgKNoQ-2M

OK mod, delete the comment for being “conspiracy bullshit……” 😉
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May 23, 2022 9:17am
- krazykiwi
  
  Back in 2013 I saw a system that cased pills with ingestible proximity coding. The ‘patient’ wore a adhesive scanner patch on this stomach which connected to their phone via Bluetooth. As each pill passed through the digestive system the date and time of medication was recorded, and this was used by the health insurer to provide premium rebates.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:25am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  To enforce compliance he says that the pill dissolves in your stomach and the chip then sends a signal.
  
  Fake stomach acid could be in demand.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:43pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie tweets 😀 😀 😀

“I wish people would stop eating bats and banging monkeys……”
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May 23, 2022 9:39am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The Southpark “Pandemic Special” covered just that topic when looking into the source of the virus…..
  
  PARENTAL GUIDANCE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. ACTUALLY, DON’T OPEN IF YOU GET OFFENDED AT ALL BY ANYTHING!!
  
  https://www.southparkstudios.com/video-clips/no1la9/south-park-do-you-know-what-a-pangolin-is-randy
  
  You were warned!
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:58am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Wouldn’t open
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:54pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Try this one. Be warned. Adult cartoon content!
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEhZyfQTUVA
      
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      May 24, 2022 11:42am
ClanMcleod

You should be concerned about the proposals to give more power to the unelected WHO to make decisions and policies around future “pandemics”. If you are you can sign this.

– Declaration of Opposition to the Proposed International Health Regulations Amendments –

https://healthfreedomdefense.org/wfd/?

If this doesn’t concern you then you aren’t paying attention, one of the early symptoms of monkeypox apparently……. 😉
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May 23, 2022 9:50am
- Ross Campbell
  
  42000 signatures at the time of reading Clan.
  Those guys at the WHO will be shaking in their boots at this worldwide show of concern.
  I feel we are seeing the beginnings of something big…
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:54am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    You forgot the // Ross. But I get it.
    That’s the number of signatures now, let’s see where it finishes up. Of course, the refusal of the shills in the mainstream media to even mention it is making sure most people aren’t even aware that it’s happening. A deliberate act and more confirmation that the fourth estate is nothing but a propaganda arm for people set on destroying society as we know it.
    Anyway, I’m sure you’ll help by sharing it around in your leftie circles! //
    
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    May 23, 2022 11:02am
    - Ross Campbell
      
      Oh come on you are getting a bit carried away now.
      Here is an innocent alternative explanation:
      1.This is a petition by an outfit which outside anti vax circles most other people would have never heard of.
      2.There are hundreds of other petitions on websites like change.org and 95% of these are never publicised by the media either.
      3.When it all boils down this petition is just not newsworthy to a broader audience.
      
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      May 23, 2022 11:50am
  - Yabster
    
    what a tard you are- sure your not Milky in drag?- you may be happy to told what to do by the corrupt WHO/UN but I an others with spines are not.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafV6YhhnAQ
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:03pm
    - Ross Campbell
      
      The name calling kind of loses it’s impact a little bit when your written English skills are so bad that I am trying to second guess what you are saying.
      Help is available for this type of thing.
      
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      May 23, 2022 1:05pm
      - Yabster
        
        lol def Milky in disguise- how many log ons does one socilaist need….
        
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        May 23, 2022 1:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        loses it’s impact a little bit when your written English skills are so bad
        
        The possessive form of the pronoun it = its
        
        The contracted form of it is = it’s
        
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        May 23, 2022 2:15pm
      - Ross Campbell
        
        Thanks for splitting those hairs for me.
        I now have another quote to add to the list you put on here yesterday.
        Petty.
        
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        May 23, 2022 2:42pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Of course it is petty,
        but you were the one pointing out someone else’s lousy English.
        
        This is a blog, fgs!.. and as far as I know open & welcoming to anyone who can communicate at any level of literacy.
        
        Most of us do not have degrees in English / Communications, etc…and a goodly few of us are lousy typists.
        
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        May 23, 2022 5:39pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Don’t even engage with them Maggz!
        
        They’re all one and the simian.
        
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        May 23, 2022 7:28pm
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    Just walk quietly and obediently towards your impending slavery, Ross. Wouldn’t want to stand out would you? I wouldn’t care about your refusal to accept the distressing facts that are before you and assess their future implications, if it weren’t for the fact that it is people like you who, by your meek acquiescence, may condemn us all to the same fate.
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Monkeyvax. I don’t now where to stop deleting the long link.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=549585643436222&set=a.281439050250884&__cft__%5B0%5D=AZV2D1buJcbSfHGy3qfSu4oftMUAEJQo3iXPZRV5BZit1OCmzS5LhWl1njAoUKPBs3AyrNDAdAGn66-JLOegH-NaUocAcp5YKU7ZTyts4jPcUJU7JJojoOy0mtfZ3pFxkCX5L2YK9mAFTQQYZ2N6K7ks5u9f9Kz2RBNQZ9SChLhVLX1SNBkyAFBkutiDlv2T0QPttVEC2KQOdPt_uFjSbCbh&__tn__=EH-y-R
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May 23, 2022 9:57am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Steve – don’t worry, the vaxxinators are on the case. Just one more wee jab. They fix everything.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/european-union-urges-member-states-to-plan-for-monkeypox-jabs/D2FAC4WNL257TGMIWFUHCERIGU/
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:30am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Didn’t the Smallpox Vaccine provide protection against Monkeypox?
    And now we are exposed because we no longer vaccinate for that?
    
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    May 23, 2022 10:51am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      We don’t vaccinate any longer for it because it was eradicated. So they will use the smallpox vaccine for monkeypox. We’ll see how it all transpires, the media of course, will love it. Nothing like a bit of fear clickbait.
      The best thing that will come out of monkeypox though will be the satire. I love it. Best meme to date:
      
      “Is it monkeypox season already? Damn, I still have my “I Stand With Ukraine” decorations up. 😉
      
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      May 23, 2022 11:37am
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        Luckily, the FDA approved a vaccine for monkeypox in late 2019. The foresight and timing of these people is quite remarkable.
        
        https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-live-non-replicating-vaccine-prevent-smallpox-and-monkeypox
        
        Moreover, the CDC has been experimenting on monkeys only earlier this year.
        
        https://archive.ph/eySd9
        
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        May 23, 2022 1:19pm
103PapPap

I have observed that Labour are desperately looking for new ways to generate taxes, and have hamstrung themselves with their ‘No Capital Gains on my Watch’ mantra.
So here’s a new one: ‘The Registered Charities Act’.
In this, any charitable organisation that employs or contracts any person who earns more than a member of Parliament will have their Charity status rescinded and they will pay company tax on their profits. Will generate millions!
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May 23, 2022 10:14am
- Bridgenag
  
  Great All the big IWI non tax paying companies/charities……
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:56pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

We didn’t have the green thing back in our day. The United Spot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xAXDKfvaKo
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May 23, 2022 10:31am
Monique Watson

WTF? Why are the news outlets shopping the story that Ardern can’t get into the U.S. without a 10 day wait? It’s a “a clear Covid test no more than 24 hours prior to entry”, and travellers who have had in the last 90 days can submit a Dr’s proof of a clean Bill of health.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html
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May 23, 2022 10:40am
- mawm
  
  I think it’s about getting to see Biden.
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:17am
- cmm
  
  I think it was more a matter of whether she’ll be allowed into the Whitehouse for Uncle Joe to sniff her hair.
  
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  May 23, 2022 11:48am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Maybe the media have no other good leftist news, so they sort of make some, knowing that few will check.
  Thanks for the info.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:07pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZHiE96tWY4

China is heading for Disaster… On Purpose.

The CCP is always right. If they’re not; it’s a massive loss of face to admit it. It could also be the presitator going after the Shanghai faction. [16:27]
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May 23, 2022 10:40am
- Bridgenag
  
  China plays a very long game
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:57pm
  - kowtow
    
    I think that is overstated.
    
    The CCP are like any other authoritarian party, only interested in holding onto power and commanding everyone what to do.
    
    With communism there is no long game .Other than oppressing people to stay in power.
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:58pm
  - curry4me
    
    Yes, they do. It often works out as they want.
    
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    May 23, 2022 7:22pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASGRCOJUHZI

Kiwi Voice talks to Matt King – in studio.

On Matt’s trip through the South Island, to meet as many Kiwis as possible and promote Democracy NZ’s message, we got him in the studio for almost an hour of yarning politics (of course) road trips, his property in Northland, and the state of NZ. [53:15]
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May 23, 2022 10:46am
Maggie Pie

Just back from taking Gladys for a walk at the Waiata Reserve.
I think we should be more like dogs and sniff each other when we meet. LOL!
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May 23, 2022 11:10am
- MCōs
  
  Include me out of that notion.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:44pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Don’t knock it till you try it Cossie! 😛
    
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    May 23, 2022 1:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Brandon and reporter need a hearing test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axcmVFtwSM4&t=5s
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May 23, 2022 11:20am
Maggie Pie

Chynaa retaliates….

https://twitter.com/BRebellion777/status/1528101736975581190
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May 23, 2022 11:45am
Benedict Yu

This is a great example of the hypocrisy on climate change:

“Ardern will also be making a push for tourism.

“The US was our third-largest tourist market for arrivals pre-Covid, with travellers planning their visits months before coming in the New Zealand summer,” she said. “So now is the right time to be visible in the US market [and] letting Americans know we are open for business and travel.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/128721988/pm-jacinda-ardern-to-travel-to-the-us-potential-white-house-visit-on-cards

If she was serious about climate change she would be urging northern hemisphere tourists to holiday closer to home. Long haul air travel is a major source of emissions. Of course she does not worry because these international air travel emissions are not ‘counted’ against New Zealand’s emissions.
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May 23, 2022 11:57am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  A good way to justify her trip to become a Doctor//
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:15pm
  - oldfella
    
    Steve, when Doctor Jacinda meets Doctor Jill, will they play ‘my doctorate is bigger than yours’?
    
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    May 23, 2022 12:22pm
- Matt Long
  
  Jet fuel from flights doesn’t count, because the planes are moving so fast in the air the emissions slide through the atmosphere and off the edge of the world, that why Shaw and Gore and the mad Swedish dwarf can clock up the air miles of a small city without being hypocrites.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:54pm
- cmm
  
  It’s OK BY.
  
  After flying halfway around the world, using a swimming pool full of fuel, they can use a EV taxi the last 5km to the hotel and feel smug again.
  
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  May 23, 2022 5:17pm
oldfella

I see Von Tempsky St in Hamilton has been renamed, and I’m wondering where this will end.
Will they now cancel anyone who not only slaughtered their Maori enemies, but raped their women and ate some of the survivors?
I’m sure the search is underway right now in Hamilton to identify, and cancel, any such people. //
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May 23, 2022 12:20pm
- MCōs
  
  How can you eat survivors?
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:41pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Roasted in a Hangi for 3-4 hours and then served with Puha?
    
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    May 23, 2022 3:27pm
    - Swifty
      
      For Benedict and any other newish arrivals to NZ…..
      
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B5zzrJjefTs
      
      Puha and pakeha.
      
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      May 23, 2022 4:03pm
surfing

Anne Tolley is the dictator of Tauranga…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/links-ave-tauranga-city-council-calls-petition-discussion-to-abrupt-halt/CT5BI6IUWVW7ORP6WJDZ7CFCZQ/

Council closed one of the busiest roads in Mt Maunganui (Links Ave), for flimsy reasons (single incident where 2 children riding 2 abreast collided with one another).

There was a public meeting today about it…Tolley shut it down. There was no violence, or anything like that. . . just a lot of questions that she didn’t like.

She is a disaster for Tauranga, road works take forever, traffic is worse than Auckland , she wants 350 million to rebuild the CBD in the shape of stalinist Russia, crime is rampant all over the city… Tolley is destroying Tauranga.

Heres a picture of the 350 million dollar redevelopment….
https://www.tauranga.govt.nz/portals/0/data/future/civic-redevelopment/images/civic1.jpg
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May 23, 2022 12:47pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  $350m? That’s what it costs to merge RNZ & TVNZ. Spooky!
  
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  May 23, 2022 10:25pm
Maggie Pie

WATCH

Pres. Biden says ‘everybody’ should be worried about monkeypox.

Quips….don’t drop the soap.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1528509622532841474

LOL!!
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May 23, 2022 12:53pm
- Matt Long
  
  Aids and then monkey pox spreading through the LGBTetc. community, it’s almost as though someone doesn’t approve.
  
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  May 23, 2022 12:57pm
Lexicon

Is Ardern’s Doctorate in Woke still happening? There’s been little trumpeting about that lately.
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May 23, 2022 1:02pm
CAKE FACE1

The borders don’t open until the beginning of August – over two months away…

Why?

The only logical explanation I can come up with is that Cindy wants to vandalise the economy completely. She wants to burn the economy to the ground.

I suspect that the ultimate aim is to have the entire country on welfare, and dependent on government handouts.

Why else would the borders still be shut?
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May 23, 2022 1:38pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING NOW

Sources suggest Anthony Albanese has no intention of living at the Gothic-style mansion Kiribilli House, situated in the middle of Sydney Harbor, preferring instead to make the far less palatial ‘Lodge’ in Canberra his home.

In fact, it will be the first time he has moved out of Sydney’s inner-West (think Mt Roskill) since he was born in a Public Housing Flat in 1963. LOL!!

Sounds like just the sort of simpering woke leftard you’d want to run the country.
What a f**ing loser!

SHEESH.
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May 23, 2022 2:02pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Careful Mags. Albo’s early life has a lot of parallels with that of John Key.
  
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  May 23, 2022 2:37pm
  - plc
    
    Pretty sure John Key knew who his father was.
    
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    May 23, 2022 2:52pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Not really tho Cap. Other than the ‘state flat’ thingy.
    By the time JK was in his early 20’s, he was already worth mega, thanks to his genius for FX trading.
    And way b4 he entered politics here, he’d already spent millions building his pile in Parnell. Which of course he later sold to a Chinese investor for way over CV….and even negotiated to keep the tennis court!
    I mean Keysie was already a financial genius – imagine Albo when the next GFC hits 🙁
    
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    May 23, 2022 3:11pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Have you seen Kirribilli House and Admiralty House where the PM and GG live in Sydney???
  
  Worth Gazillions if they ever came on the market
  
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  May 23, 2022 3:01pm
Harry Knuts

Are the current diplomatic immunity rules outdated for any overseas diplomat residing in NZ if they in any way break laws in NZ : https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/128725155/iranian-embassy-ordered-to-pay-275000-to-tradie-living-in-social-housing
There are other examples from previous years. Time for a change?
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May 23, 2022 2:46pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Unfortunately this is covered by the Vienna Convention.
  
  The number of London traffic fines owed by the Diplomatic Community runs into tens of millions of pounds.
  
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  May 23, 2022 7:08pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Is it cultural appropriation when Maori women dye their hair blonde?

Asking for a friend.
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May 23, 2022 4:10pm
Swifty

Is this that Te Ao Maori we keep hearing about or is this Kaitiakitanga in action?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/driver-dumps-sewage-in-protected-stream-instead-of-facility-so-he-can-go-home/SY2KQDCWDOKWSI4O2555ZWR6II/
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May 23, 2022 4:23pm
- Swifty
  
  Should we expect more of this sort of thing under Three Waters?
  
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  May 23, 2022 4:24pm
Tony Stuart

Breaking News: check out this tweet from The Platform:

The Platform NZ
@theplatform_nz
STORY DROPPING TONIGHT on Co-governance: the Crown & the Mahuta Dynasty.

We’ve seen the tweets & gone away to do our own fact checking. The story will be live tonight & discussed tomorrow on @SeanPlunket’s show.

https://twitter.com/theplatform_nz/status/1528512619899801601

The tweets referred to as those which have been linked to here previously, suggesting some significant conflicts of interest involving Hon. Nanaia Mahuta and members of her whanau. It’s interesting that The Platform didn’t rush into press, but they have been investigating this issue for over a week. Let’s hope that some member of the media party accompanying Jacinda Ardern to the US decides to question her on her arrival tomorrow.
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- krazykiwi
  
  The story is up: https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/co-governance-the-crown-and-the-mahuta-dynasty
  
  This is grade-A corruption. If a member if John Key’s government even attempted such behaviour they would have been sacked by him, but not before the media pack tore that person and their family to shreds.
  
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  May 23, 2022 5:17pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Remember the Spanish Inquisition around Judith Collins visiting Oravida a few years ago?
    
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    May 24, 2022 6:55am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Sadly the media questioning the PM is very unlikely Tony, the story has been floating around the Twitterdom for a few days and they haven’t bothered. That’s why it’s so good to have The Platform up and running.
  
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  May 23, 2022 9:48pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/128726220/calls-to-change-hamiltons-coat-of-arms-to-better-reflect-citys-diversity-culture
“Jahvaya”: now there is an ancient maori name !
No cultural appropriation there !
Maori, as we all know, used the letters “J” “V” and “Y” extensively, especially when naming their kids. Good grief.
If “diversity” was followed to its logical and proportionate conclusion there would be more Asian names on signposts, government documents and websites than maori.
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May 23, 2022 5:30pm
- graham
  
  There seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on in Hamilton at the moment, but I’m not too worried … nobody I know would dream of living in The Tron – most of them speed through it as quickly as possible, counting it as a small price to pay if they get a speeding ticket for merely escaping the city of despair.
  
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  May 23, 2022 7:25pm
Maggie Pie

Just out in the kitchen making the Lime & Honey dressing for the Duck Breasts.

My partner wandered in to tell me….. “TV1 are promoing the piece of ‘Eurasian-Fluff’ as a judge on the next NZ Master Chef”.

LOL!!
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