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mikenmildagain

Happy 94th birthday to Burt Bacharach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rZEi_lT-o
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May 12, 2022 8:03am
- SGA
  
  For all his tunes, whenever I hear BB’s name my first thought is always of Paul Newman riding that bicycle in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:37am
  - kowtow
    
    Classic Hollywood romanticisation of crime .
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:09am
- Tony Stuart
  
  His first published song was “The Story of My Life”, sung in 1957 by Marty Robbins, and written in collaboration with Hal David. His last song dates to 1998; Toledo, recorded by Elvis Costello. One of the most prolific songwriters of all time.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:43am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Vivid memories of driving down 880 and my 12 year old son excitedly leaning through the gap between the front seats to grab the phone and dial up “that song, that song”.
    
    So for a few miles we listened to it as we passed underneath the signs showing us the way to San Jose.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:28am
  - chukar
    
    Marty Robbins was special
    
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    May 12, 2022 7:20pm
alloytoo

Happy International Nurses day.

Especially to the hard working folk of Building 8 Auckland Hospital.
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May 12, 2022 8:07am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  And the North Shore Emergency Department. Those on the floor work bloody hard
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:27am
- cmm
  
  Special thanks to:
  
  * the nurses who still stay in NZ, despite the attractions of offshore jobs.
  * those that come to NZ from elsewhere when they have so many other options.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:04am
Souvlaki

Listening to Kelvin Davis / Chris Faafoi of late , I am coming to the conclusion the plan of the Maori caucus, and Labour in general IS deliberately to make NZ such an unpleasant place to live that only their supporters wont want to or be able to piss off overseas!
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May 12, 2022 8:11am
- Matt Long
  
  This was the Ardern housing plan all along, to make New Zealand such a hole that refugees leave plenty of housing for those who can’t get away.
  Next step is programmable money for social credit scores and to prevent capital flight.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:33am
  - cmm
    
    Well you’ve got to admit there is some good thinking in that.
    
    Welfare dependent losers are much easier to power-play than capable, productive people.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:05am
- Benedict Yu
  
  On the way home from the hot pools yesterday I listened to Kris Faafoi being interviewed on the immigration policy settings announced yesterday.
  
  What a train wreck. He spoke very quickly. It was impossible to follow. I just got the message that things were “streamlined”. He simply refused to answer some questions, just saying they were “streamlined.” If you have 5 minutes, please listen. Best to start half way through after the warm up is finished.
  
  It is deeply disturbing. He is clearly totally out of his depth. And being out of your depth is horrible.
  
  On one occasion, I took on a contract to do some data analysis. Within a week I realised I did not have the right skills. I immediately fronted up and helped the guy find someone to replace me.
  
  How, and why, can these Ministers carry on, with the stress of not being able to do the job?
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/kris-faafoi-this-is-vastly-an-improvement-on-the-previous-regime/
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:33am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    It was great hearing the total rejection with people trying to get staff into the country
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:52am
    - Nickc2
      
      IMO, that was Faafoi’s aim all along. Hide anti-immigration rules behind word soups of platitudes towards those in need of immigrant labour.
      
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      May 12, 2022 9:44am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Yes, but the policy has been opened like a can of worms
        
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        May 12, 2022 11:55am
  - John Pakes
    
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    Sorry to hear Benedict that yet again you sink to attacking the man, and not the message.
    Try looking at the immigration changes that are being made, and are being made to help our employers. For example, the Green List. The changes being done will better illustrate how competent the minister is or not, rather than you inability to hear him.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:30am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      What message John? He refused to answer regarding numbers and just talked and talked. Same as Mahuta and Ardern do regularly. And his daft response to HDPA’s queries around “profitable for two years” – if they are still around they will be he says – oh yeah? What about hospitality that have been pretty much out of business for a couple of years and are only just starting to get back on their feet? I’m with Ben. This guy is not up to the job.
      
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      May 12, 2022 9:46am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Did you hear Arderns answer to young Max Key yesterday, she didn’t have a clue what she was talking about, waffled on nastily saying how she did better than Key senior, she did not appear to even understand the question
        
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        May 12, 2022 12:02pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I rarely engage in personal attacks here and did not do so today. There was no “message”. It was incoherent rubbish. It is the job of a Minister to explain key policy changes. He clearly could not do that. At all.
      
      I am not commenting on his character.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:03am
    - leoj
      
      Drunk, not just Kool Aid but raspberry coloured Kool Aid.
      As per No Minister a few minutes ago:
      Jacinda Adern just tested negative for being a good PM. Faffoi, Robberson and the whole sorry front bench also fit that bill. Total failures.
      
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      May 12, 2022 11:24am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Ben, they don’t know what they don’t know. And they actually don’t know they are out of their depth. David Dunning, of the Dunning-Kruger Effect: “there are those people out there who are stupid and don’t realize they are stupid”.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They are there because there is nowhere else to go.
    They would not last 5 minutes in the private sector.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:41am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      I dunno Steve,
      
      For eg, Faafoi could go back to journalism, or being a PM’s press sec. David Clark could go back to being a Presbyterian Minister. Little could go back to being a Unionist. Robertson can go back to being a Government worker, Hipkins a low level manager, Sepuloni a teacher, Davis a teacher. Mahuta could go back to being a waste of space (oh wait!). Ardern could go back to being, um, ahh. I’m stuck on that one.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:57am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Ardern – fush n cheeps. None of the other options actually produce or manufacture anything that can be sold
        
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        May 12, 2022 12:53pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Add, how many of them could change a wheel after a flat tyre? I don’t think any could find the hidden jack and wheel nut tool – you know, the thing, the thing that takes off the wheel nuts
        
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        May 12, 2022 3:48pm
  - I remember when
    
    BY:
    That is Kris Faafoi’s immigration policy – to speak quickly, increasing incoherently, while trying to make it look like they are on top of immigration.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:48am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Very good article about the immigration changes by Dileep Fonseca on Stuff today. I can’t fathom why he is still there – he is so far ahead of the rest of them in his ability to grasp and clearly present complex issues.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:57pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Yeah, I thought that
      
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      May 12, 2022 7:45pm
- kowtow
  
  Both jackson and Davis have used the term “equity” in recent days in respect of treaty issues .
  
  This shows they are dangerous leftists .
  
  In respect of Davis the Herald has a big story on his ancestors . He attacks the Nats and Act claiming their “privelige and wealth” was built on the back of other folk’s misfortune . His folk did well working hard you see. But were then impoverished due to being cheated.
  
  I have to ask whether pre Treaty Maori who were powerful and prosperous owed their position to warfare and slavery , ie off the back of other folks misery .
  
  Anyway , if we can’t get past rehashing history and constantly posing ourselves as oppressed victims then how the hell can we all prosper together into the future.
  
  All very divisive stuff. Not healthy at all.
  
  Talking of the Herald anyone notice the Emmerson cartoon yesterday personalised the wuflu virus in a way very reminiscent of 1930’s German cartoons . Quite sinister .
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:51am
  - rangitoto
    
    Davis ancestors are mostly European.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:52am
  - I remember when
    
    Equity:
    Is just “quit” wrapped in an e and y sandwich.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:34am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Tell that to Ernst Young!
      
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      May 12, 2022 7:47pm
  - tenzing
    
    @kowtow
    
    > “I have to ask whether pre Treaty Maori who were powerful and prosperous owed their position to warfare and slavery , i.e. off the back of other folks misery.”
    
    “Kelvin Davies Davis affiliates to the Ngāpuhi iwi”
    – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Davis_(politician)
    
    “Ngāpuhi, led by Hongi Hika, launched a series of expansionist campaigns, with resounding slaughters across Northland and in the Waikato and Bay of Plenty.”
    – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng%C4%81puhi
    
    Can’t speak for all tribes, but we can say for certain that Kelvin Davies’ ancestors owed a significant amount of their prosperity, and the land that they occupied to slaughtering the prior inhabitants.
    
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    May 12, 2022 1:08pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I have to ask whether pre Treaty Maori who were powerful and prosperous owed their position to warfare and slavery , ie off the back of other folks misery .
    
    Yep,
    
    That is the pattern of Maori Life from about 1500s until early 1800s.
    
    As Horticulture failed in the southern NI and population pressure rose, warfare (as evidenced by construction of fortified pa) and resettlement of defeated Tribes into marginal lands became the norm.
    
    https://ojs.victoria.ac.nz/jnzs/article/view/3987/3554
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:10pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The first Tribe settlemt in the current TOW settlements was in 1995.
    
    Kelvin Davis’ tribe Ngāpuhi has had over 30 years to sort itself out and settle its TOW claim.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/iwi-group-claims-mandate-infighting-continues/VUOAWGXAZGDEXQMC2MOB7Y3AQY/
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/105851670/ngpuhis-struggle-people-cant-even-agree-what-damn-day-it-is
    
    It hasn’t… and that’s NOT the fault of any Government or any taxpayer… It is solely due to his tribe’s internal politics that keeps some of his people of the North in a destitute state (although some are faring very well).
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:58pm
- edhunter
  
  I wonder if they’re going to fill their Maori only hospitals with Maori only nurses and witch doctors?
  
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  May 12, 2022 11:00am
  - Paulus
    
    But which Iwi’s will they all come from as they are still tribal in effect.
    The new Maori Health Authority breakdown is predecated on the four Maori Tribal Regions, so that will cause a proble as they do not like each other despite the Mahuta (Family) oversight.
    
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    May 12, 2022 1:47pm
  - Countrygirl
    
    And will they use Maori science to cure people or will they be wanting to use those nasty colonial xray machines, MRI, ultrasound. Etc?
    
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    May 12, 2022 4:25pm
- Hebe123
  
  It’s a bit short term as a strategy….who pays?
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:33pm
Frank the tank

After reading a report from Audrey ‘Not so’ Young in the Horrid about Kelvin Davis’ speech in the General Debate one thing that struck me was this Kelvin kept on banging on about how his family has been disadvantaged by whitey yet Kelvin:

-Son of a chief, important member of his tribe
-Went to University
-Was a Principal (somehow) at a Primary School
-Became an MP, Deputy PM/Leader and Cabinet Minister

This is hardly the life of someone that has gone without in his lifetime and by judging on his performance in public life he didn’t get there on talent alone.

The nerve of these ass clowns is staggering as is the performance (or lack of) from our feckless journalists to call this out.

This is Jacob Zuma level ignorance.
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May 12, 2022 8:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It must be hard for Kelvin Davis to understand how someone (a refugee, perhaps) can arrive in NZ with nothing, but within a few years and with hard work, manage to rise out of a life of dependency .
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There are those who get stuck in and make a life for themselves, while others think the Govt should take care of them.
    Take our Thai friend for example. Living week to week on low wages in Sukhumvit, Bangkok unable to save – now in Alaska as part owner of a Sign making business with her husband. She got stuck in.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:51am
- Caine9
  
  Being “disadvantaged” has become a political statement, it has nothing to do with reality.
  Claims about lack of opportunity, education or healthcare all bear examination.
  Is it that these services are not available, or that they aren’t delivered in a narrow way that a particular group in our community believe is their right?
  Why is there a demand that a minority is indulged (because that is what it is, nothing to do with actual outcomes) because it chooses to reject what is offered and paid for by everyone through taxes.
  Claiming poor health outcomes when people refuse to see doctors, or attend hospitals has got nothing to do with a racial bias, but everything to do with personal responsibility. If you refuse to drink, but water is in front of you, who is responsible for your thirst?
  Setting aside the arguments for/against the covid vaccination programme, when a group decides to hold back from vaccines, for example, until hundreds of millions are spent in bribes in order to save their own lives, what does it say about the sense of entitlement?
  Davis coming out with this rubbish is ridiculous beyond words, that he is incapable of seeing the quite hilarious irony speaks volumes as to his idiocy.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:44am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    When you go hide at the marae, then you will see the world slip by
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:54am
  - Nickc2
    
    How many kids has Davis contaminated with his hard-done-by leftist and racist rantings whilst being a school teacher?
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:54am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He has never been deputy PM
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Has been Acting PM once, that is scary.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:53am
    - Thought Criminal
      
      Didn’t they used to arrange for him to be out of parliament if Jacinda want going to be there so he wouldn’t have to handle PM questions?
      
      A man who can’t answer simple questions rising to the second highest job in the land is hardly disadvantage. Some might argue that certain attributes he was born with have seen him become a huge success wildly beyond his obvious meagre abilities.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:48am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, but both Ardern and Peters were out of the country
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:06pm
- nathie
  
  -Son of a chief, important member of his tribe = privilege, status, ranking and class, in the “Maori worldview”. (Why aren’t the Left crying out against this “class discrimination”)?
  
  -Went to University = Egalitarianism, all humans are equal, in the “European worldview”, and can go to University.
  
  -Was a Principal (somehow) at a Primary School = = Egalitarianism, all humans are equal, in the “European worldview”, and can aspire to become a School Principal.
  
  -Became an MP, Deputy PM/Leader and Cabinet Minister = Egalitarianism, all humans are equal, in the “European worldview”, and can aspire to become an MP, Deputy PM/Leader and Cabinet Minister (or even PM).
  
  To Kelvin Davis, what the F are you moaning about? Why are you not using your mana, status and privilege to empower not only Maori but everyone to aspire to the levels you reached in “Whitey” society?
  
  (Said by me, “half white” and “half brown”, just like you Kelvin)!
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:59am
- pdm
  
  Frank – it seems he overlooked the fact that he acquired two Pakeha names along the way – Kelvin Davis.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:02am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Kelvin Davis and Simon Bridges have starkly illustrated the difference between Labour and National with their respective speeches.
  
  For Labour it is all about being a victim with no personal agency to improve oneself. For National it is not about constantly asserting victimhood, and all about doing the best you can for yourself, irrespective of circumstances.
  
  Not hard to decide which leads to better and more aspirational government, as well as better personal outcomes.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:20am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Please, please, please let Marama provide me with a life of dignity (and no consequences…).
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:41am
  - Swifty
    
    If all Maori, and everyone else, adopted that view there’d be no need for race-baiting or victim-hustling MPs – they’d be out of a job.
    
    That’s why the left is on a never-ending crusade, on the hunt for ever smaller dragons to slash their swords at.
    
    We’ve reached the point where there are no dragons left so lefties are vigorously slashing at thin air while telling us “just look at the size of that dragon!”
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:45am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    From Simon Bridges’ valedictory statement last week:
    
    I’m proud of my whakapapa. I’m proud to be the first Māori New Zealander to lead one of the two big parties—sorry, Winston. People sometimes can’t understand my conviction in conservative politics and how I reconcile it with my forebears and the prevailing views in Māori politics today. But the reason I have opposed and continue to oppose policies like Māori wards, health authorities, and the like is because while I deeply understand our country has quite a way to go on race, personally, I don’t want to be treated differently on the basis of it. I don’t want special help, because I’m not a victim. I am good enough in any room, whether this big one, our Cabinet, or commercial board rooms in the future, and so are all Māori.
    
    https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20220504_20220504_28
    
    Well said Simon Bridges. Those words should be pasted up on the wall where Labour’s Māori caucus holds its meetings, but Labour MP’s would far rather stay in grievance mode, as Davis verbalised yesterday.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:53am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    If people do not help them self up to what is in front of their face Wayne, then they will never be helped.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:08pm
- RockyJ
  
  I think that most of us are getting sick of hearing about how hard Maori have it. In fact we don’t believe it.
  Meanwhile we just get on with making a living, Maori and Pakeha.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:35am
peterwn

So elements of the media adversely reported on Prince Charles’ Speech from the Throne to the UK Parliament. He stood in for Her Majesty who is 96yo.
I do not remember Her Majesty being so criticised for her Speeches from the Throne.
What the media needed to have made clear was that the Speech from the Throne is scripted by the PM and his Government and not by the Palace. So Prince Charles cannot be held accountable for the content of the Speech from the Throne.
As to criticism of what he was wearing (a Royal Navy uniform) what did the media expect him to wear – t shirt, shorts and thongs?
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May 12, 2022 8:11am
- G152
  
  Its media.
  Rotten corrupt lying with the language skills of 10 year olds
  They have to carp and complain about something.
  And Charles earned that uniform
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:33am
  - greybeard
    
    Charles is criticised by many because of his privilege and his personal behaviour.
    He is a very well educated, incredibly well-travelled man, having met world leaders and movers-and-shakers all of his life.
    He was a conservationist and environmentalist before we ever heard of the Greens movement in Europe.
    He has been trained all of his life to become King.
    He is the product of his time, as are all of us 73-year olds.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:10am
    - kowtow
      
      I think it’svery important to distingusih between the man and the office .
      
      The office and its history and what it symbolises is the key , that’s hat the idiots in the media and commentariat got wrong .
      
      The man , well that’s another matter .
      
      And being well educated and travelled means squat , if he thinks that plants listen to him.
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:11pm
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Some of the vegetables in the Green Party listen to him.
        
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        May 12, 2022 2:22pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      It’s a long apprenticeship
      
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      May 12, 2022 7:51pm
  - chukar
    
    So did his father and grandfather!
    Also some of his sons
    You are right G152
    
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    May 12, 2022 7:28pm
- Nickc2
  
  The British MSM are like ours, left-leaning, anti Monarchy, bludging morons armed with poison pens who think they can change the world to suit a doctrine that is foreign to free-thinking freedom-loving prosperous hard-working humans/voters.
  “No matter what we did . . . . . ” as espoused by the TVNZ 1 Bradford Brat.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:17am
  - leoj
    
    MSM media world-wide are 95% hard left.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:28am
- Sacha
  
  It was a ceremony celebrating the history of Parliament, with all the pageantry (and dressing up). of past years. Snide comments from ignorant media people should be ignored.
  I thought the Prince Charles looked old and tentative and maybe sad that he was standing in for his mother. Maybe he would rather retire with Camilla, and let the younger generation take over –
  
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  May 12, 2022 11:05am
Frank the tank

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/concern-over-government-s-new-immigration-changes.html

Our MP-for-Tijuana at it again……
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May 12, 2022 8:13am
- Bobba Fret
  
  If you ever had the displeasure to shake this MP’s hand, I bet you it would be a limp/weak (wet lettuce leaf) hand shake.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Dead fish.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:57am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Limp fish !
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:09pm
  - Nickc2
    
    You’re game Bobba. I wouldn’t touch it cause I dunno where it’s been and I dread to think eh?
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:20am
Simon

Ardern and NZ’s “independent foreign policy”. After Russia / China political alliance became apparent Ardern was ordered to Japan to talk security.

But Japan is a decent country. Certainly compared to that utter shit hole China. Over last 15 years or so the CCP have bought so many people. Politicians, entire university departments & so called business people. The SFO rolled up a CCP spy cell that was buying up the National Party. The security services also had to order National & Labo to get rid of their high placed CCP spies. Recall all the National party heavily promoting China. Most were bought.

Anyway its changed now. Russia / China alliance means it’s a different world. The neolib globalist have turned against China.
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May 12, 2022 8:13am
- cjn
  
  USA as a member of NATO is coming to the “aid” of Ukraine which is not a NATO member. Other NATO members are also very supportive of Ukraine which is not a NATO member. If the USA gets into a shooting war with China, say over Taiwan, does that mean that the other NATO countries need to come to its aid by supplying weapons confiscating Chinese European assets and imposing sanctions?
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:06am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Seriously, you really think Ardern was ordered to go to Japan?
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:21am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Lol Wayne, the tinfoil is out in spades…..
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:59am
  - gravedodger
    
    Seriously, are you suggesting she made the decision all by her self??
    She needed to create distance between her increasingly heating stew of her own making so went to Singapore and Japan where security was not a problem.
    Knowing well that to head out into real New Zealand where her growing stinking pile of disasters for those now becoming very tired of her word soup responses to the occasional unbecoming verbal assaults would damage her increasingly fragile existence as dear leader?
    Someday Mr Mapp you will be forced to accept the actual disasters she is creating are real, in Health, Crime, Child Poverty, Mental Health, Economic. Social, Racial and Political, I only hope I am around to witness the exit by That Woman and your reaction to that inevitable crash.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:12am
  - Simon
    
    “Seriously, you really think Ardern was ordered to go to Japan?”
    
    You seriously think it was Cindy’s idea to travel to Japan to talk security??
    
    This is NZ’s guiding foreign policy.
    
    FACT SHEET: Indo-Pacific Strategy of the United States
    
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/02/11/fact-sheet-indo-pacific-strategy-of-the-united-states/
    
    Cindy was following instructions.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:44pm
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    Nobody but the most naive among us actually believe that Jacinda Ardern (or any past PM) is making now, or has ever made, any autonomous determinations about New Zealand foreign policy. A country New Zealand’s size doesn’t have now, and has never had, any significantly independent foreign policy. We used to act in Britain’s interests, and now we act in America’s interests. The decisions we make are always made within a very distinct broader geopolitical framework. As your old boss once said, we’re part of “the club,” but we are certainly not among the club committee. We pay our fees and we act as we are told to act, and if we don’t, we are not getting any sausage rolls and cucumber sandwiches in return.
    
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    May 12, 2022 1:12pm
lastmanstanding

Over the past 4 years the Government has borrowed and printed money to the extent we now have an inflation crisis. To make matters worse the Reserve Bank delayed raising interest rates to head of inflation.
Interest rates are like a super tanker. Its takes 12 to 18 months to see the impact of an interest rate change.
To compound the problem Robertson is planning on spending an additional $6 Billion in the Budget.
This will stoke the fires of inflation. And like most of the Governments spending it will be wasted pissed up against the wall like a drunken sailor.
Governments especially of the Left lack the fiscal rigour to control their wasting of OPM ( other peoples money).
Until we get a Government who acts like a responsible household who only spends what they can afford to spend inflation will get worse and we will leave succeeding generation with the problen of repaying the debt.
I say it didnt have to be this way.
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May 12, 2022 8:15am
- Simon
  
  National Party backed RBNZ printing to pay for Labour’s borrowing. Labour & RBNZ caused the inflation but they had National’s full support.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:18am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They never had Nats support yo borrow 50 billion for the COVID fund and waste 50% of that money, anyone who suggests that needs their head read
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:57am
    - Simon
      
      “While a low Official Cash Rate and the Large Scale Asset Purchase Programmes were seen at the start of 2020 as an important way of supporting the economy during the pandemic, they have done their job and it’s time to put monetary policy back on normal footing.”
      
      https://www.national.org.nz/halt-to-monetary-stimulus-welcomed
      
      National party clown show. dated July 2021 Supported the other clown show Labo party big spend up & RBNZ for the preceding 15 months or so.
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:41pm
      - JimBobJoe
        
        Simon – want someone to blame, you can have a couple: Winston Peters and his blogger booster Cameron Slater.
        
        Cam for swinging some votes to NZ First under his – its time for National to go and NZ First will keep NZ Labour honest campaign in 2017 (geez Cam really? really? NZL honest – come on you know they have issues on that front as you, yourself, disclosed on the old Whaleoil blog back in the day)
        
        And Winston Peters for putting Super Cindy and her circus on the Treasury benches in time to be in charge when COVID arrived (if wasnt that it would have been another large threat from offshore NZ Labour would have handled in an equally clueless manner)
        
        So attack the party with no power during this debacle if you want, but your real targets should NZ Labour, NZ First/Winston First and Mr Slater. They all advocated, empowered or executed the policy shit show the country is currently suffering under.
        
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        May 12, 2022 2:59pm
- Paulus
  
  It is easy, it other people’s money !
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:18am
- MCōs
  
  One of the reasons for our inflation is the cost of fuel.
  Well, it’s an ill wind that blows nobody any luck. The oil companies are laughing all the way to the bank.
  The banks are also laughing at the moment too.
  https://www.offshore-energy.biz/oil-gas-firms-profits-set-to-smash-records-reaching-834-billion-in-2022-rystad-says/
  Furthermore
  Inflation in the US is on the way down, but it’s still way ahead of NZ at 8.3%
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/05/11/april-cpi-federal-reserve/
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:31am
  - Inandout
    
    MC, we have hundreds of years of coal and offshore oil and gas. When your lights flicker and go out your laughing observations will mean zilch.
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:42am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    US on the way down slightly, but we have 2 more quarters of higher inflation to factor in yet, 2 quarters of our annual inflation are still at the .5% mark, so you will easily add 1% to each quarter
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:00am
  - westernScientist
    
    “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output”
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:14am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      We always have a recession after high inflation, what’s the bet Cindy says not under ghee watch
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:11pm
      - rockape
        
        We a,ways seem to have a recession just before Labour get booted out. So I will take a recession as a good omen!
        
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        May 12, 2022 4:19pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Every time fuel increases, so the 52% tax content increases. Fuel is an ATM for Labour.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:02am
    - MCōs
      
      Apart from GST petrol tax is set at 52.274 cents/litre
      For $3 the GST component is 39cents, at $2.75 it is 36cents
      That’s the only tax variation 3c in that example.
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:12pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Let me show you some basic math, it is easy. Say petrol is $3 per litre and the tax content is x. Now say petrol is $6 per litre. The tax content will be double x.
        An 8 year old could handle that.
        
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        May 12, 2022 12:59pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        MCōs, How many litres are paid for each year?
        It is millions – millions of 3 cents per litre.
        You work it out – the Govt are rolling in that 3 cents per litre.
        Fuck, I can’t get people to do simple math, the Govt are creaming us!
        
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        May 12, 2022 4:41pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        MCōs, How many litres are paid for each year?
        
        In 2019 it was 6.9 billion litres.
        
        So rounding up to 7 billion…
        
        The Gvt would be making an extra $210,000,000 from the GST component.
        
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        May 12, 2022 5:18pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Inflation in the US is on the way down….
    
    Chuckle. Together with a link to the Washington “Hunter’s laptop is Russian disinformation.” Post.
    
    Much as one-eyed Lefty fanatics like Muttonbird are fun to laugh at, we musn’t forget the “milder” Lefties that still work the angles to defend their faves:
    
    It’s “moderating,” because the 40-year-high rate of inflation fell from an 8.5% 40 year high rate of inflation to an 8.3% 40 year high rate of inflation.
    
    On top of that it only fell because of two things:
    – a slight fall in the price of petrol in April, which has already been wiped out in May as the price climbed to an all-time record.
    
    – Inflation is measured as year-over-year, so the April 2022 measure of inflation appears lower simply due to the statistical quirk that the baseline is April 2021 when prices were a bit elevated as compared the March 2021 (lockdowns suppressing price increases) to March 2022 measurement.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:03am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Oh, and one more thing if we’re comparing to forty years ago; if US inflation was measured now the way it was back then, it would be in the double digits as it was then.
    
    I’ve not looked at the NZ comparison but the same likely applies here because aside from ongoing arguments about what the measured components should be over time (e.g. buggy whip prices are ignored) there are other economist arguments that have changed the calculation of CPI. It may be that NZ has made the same changes?
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:12am
  - krazykiwi
    
    “One of the reasons for our inflation is the cost of fuel.”
    
    [Queue the steady clattering of RB printers and against the backdrop of a new debt mountain]
    
    Ooo look! A squirrel!
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:17am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      ….the cost of fuel.
      
      That’s also funny. By a complete coincidence that’s Biden’s excuse as well.
      
      Except that transport fuel costs only make up about 18% of the CPI.
      
      Meantime in the real world these are the increases hitting Americans since April 2021.
      
      Gas +44% y/y
      Airfare 33%
      Eggs 23%
      Utility gas 23%
      Used cars 23%
      Hotels 23%
      Bacon 18%
      Chicken 15%
      Milk 15%
      Furniture 15%
      Coffee 14%
      Beef 14%
      Flour 14%
      New cars 14%
      Fish 13%
      Electricity 11%
      Health insurance 10%
      Rent 5%
      
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      May 12, 2022 1:33pm
- Nickc2
  
  I agree with most of what you say but please go easy on the ‘Drunken Sailor’ stuff eh. They have feelings too.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:25am
Tony Stuart

Another thread that asks some serious questions about conflicts of interest within our government, especially on He Puapua and Three Waters issues:

Thomas Cranmer ✝️
@kehetauhauaga
The wife of Kiri Allan MP became a partner at Kahui Legal on 30 July 2019 and within weeks was helping prepare the He Puapua report although her relationship to Ms Allan is not disclosed. How and why was this firm appointed by govt to participate (and by whom)?

https://twitter.com/kehetauhauaga/status/1524256268398911489

The Cabinet Manual lists the various types of conflicts of interest that can occur, including this one:

Types of conflicts of interest
2.63A conflict of interest may be pecuniary (that is, arising from the Minister’s direct financial interests) or non-pecuniary (concerning, for example, a member of the Minister’s family). A conflict of interest may be direct or indirect. Ministers must consider all types of interest when assessing whether any of their personal interests may conflict with, or be perceived to conflict with, their ministerial responsibilities.

Even a perception of a conflict of interest is a problem, according to the Cabinet Manual. No one is alleging that Kiri Allen’s former wife acted illegally, but it’s very bad look for a government which promised new standards of openness and transparency. Maybe it’s time for the Auditor-General to have a look-see.
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May 12, 2022 8:15am
- Ehlana
  
  Tony, that is their new standard of openness and transparency. Like many other words, these have now been redefined and liberated from their colonial oppressor meanings.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:22am
- Yvette
  
  Tony Stuart
  As a matter of conflict of interests, why is Nania Mahuta in charge of “3 Waters” and William Jackson in charge of He Paupua introduced “co-governance”?
  
  And conflict of interest may be a factor in the avid immaturity already shown by William Jackson in his dealing with comment regarding “co-governance” – either way he is the focus of this article –
  
  Mature race relations debate missing from Parliament
  As the country embarks on a debate about race relations, some MPs are calling for it to be a mature conversation, while others are happier slinging personal attacks.
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/mature-race-relations-debate-missing-from-parliament
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:36am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    I’m surprised there has not been more commentary here on the quotes from former National Party TOW negotiations minister, Finlayson the other day on Radio NZ.
    
    Frankly when I first saw them written by a couple of commentators here I didn’t believe them, so at odds with the man’s character did they seem to be.
    
    So for once I made a point of tracking down the RNZ podcast and it turns out that they’re true.
    
    As bad as they are, what really concerns me is that this attitude must have been clear and present to other National Party MP’s and Ministers, as it marinated away for nine years. Which leads me to wonder how many more there are like him in National, keeping quiet for now.
    
    Looks like I’ve found my single issue to vote on in 2023.
    
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    May 12, 2022 3:12pm
- Souvlaki
  
  This is VERY important!
  Can we expect Luxon to delve into this or even delegate someone to do so……or will we have to rely on David Seymour…AGAIN??
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:47am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    National is definitely looking at it.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:55am
  - krazykiwi
    
    It might be important, but this is just the ‘how’.
    
    The ‘what’ (He Puapua itself) is even more important.
    
    And the ‘Why’ (Maori sovereignty) is more important still.
    
    Too much focus on criticising the ‘how’ in terms of poor or dodgy implementation can detract from the primary objections.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:54am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Seriously this country is rotten to its core under this government
  
  If an equivalent thing occurred under a National lead government, Stuff would be going full noise with the TV coverage wall to wall and demands for Ministers warrants to be turned in and resignations from parliament.
  
  Kingitanga is a cancer in this country and all its allies are no better.
  
  We are heading for a dark place if Labour continue to push this co-governance bs
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:48am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Do you mean a National LED government?
    Lead is heavy stuff used to make fishing sinkers.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:01am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Yeah whatever. Now get back in the bunker with the rest of dads army and do your cryptic crossword and leave us poor hill billys alone will you?!!!
      
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      May 12, 2022 3:03pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Tony, we are transitioning to a sophisticated new form of democracy in aotearoa; don’t you find it innovative and really invigorating?
  
  Anyway, MPs the caliber of Rawiri Waititi et al don’t really respect the Attorney-General – what makes you think he’d give a rat’s about the Auditor-General?
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:51am
- nathie
  
  More ammo for Tania Tapsell to take on Kiri Allen again in next year’s election and win it for National?
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:07am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    No, because Tania is standing for Mayor of Rotorua, and having been the highest polling councillor in the last two elections, you wouldn’t bet against her winning.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Tania said if she wins she will not stand for parliament next election, it’s on her FB page and that was her reply to a comment
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:15pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    National has no candidate yet for East Coast.
    
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    May 12, 2022 5:21pm
- Prince
  
  Allen wasn’t a Cabinet Minister so presumably it was a free for all for her and family,
  Mahuta, on the other hand, is special. It would be racist to expect her to be held to the same ethical standards as whiteys.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:10am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Kiri Allen may not have been in Cabinet per se, but the Cabinet Manual also applies to Ministers Outside Cabinet.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:56am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Sir Maarten Wevers, the Registrar of pecuniary and other specific interests of Members of Parliament, said just one member submitted their returns after the deadline – Luxon.

“Standing Orders make it clear that members are responsible for submitting their returns by the deadline,” he writes.

“I am disappointed to have to draw to the attention of the House the existence of a late return, once again.

“I…hope that next year, there will be full compliance. It is not an onerous matter to fulfil this obligation.”

Chris Luxon can’t even meet the basic obligations required of MPs so how can we trust him to run the country?

But then perhaps his attitude simply mirrors that of his mentor John Key; the rules don’t apply to me!

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/christopher-luxon-only-mp-to-submit-personal-interests-late-for-annual-list.html
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May 12, 2022 8:18am
- Yabster
  
  huh is that all you got? desperate!!
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:43am
  - westernScientist
    
    typical bureaucrat stuff, Reeee he didnt fill out a form on time reeeeee. Never mind that given what it is, its probably better a few days late in full and correct form, rather than scribbled in crayon trying to hid the corruption going on.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:19am
    - Muttonbird
      
      The dog ate my homework!
      
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      May 12, 2022 9:55am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        The muttonbird wings in again – must be troubling times for the left when a muttonbird takes flight at Kiwiblog
        
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        May 12, 2022 3:05pm
- Swifty
  
  Fair point.
  
  MPs must stick to the bloody rules, irrespective of party.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:51am
- nathie
  
  Chris Luxon is a newbie to politics and Parliament, Muttonbird, give him a break (that’s exactly what your lot would be saying if it were a newbie Leftie politician)!
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:04am
  - Muttonbird
    
    It reflects very poorly on his management skills.
    
    He’s not aware of his responsibilities which would be very worrying in the unlikely event of him becoming PM.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:54am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      meh – has Luxon declared everything? probably – not like an erstwhile NZ Labour leader who forgot about thousands and thousands of dollars in a US Bank account that he collected tax free while being a UN gadabout
      
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      May 12, 2022 3:06pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        JimBob… who’s that?? Hint.
        
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        May 12, 2022 9:23pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      “ He’s not aware of his responsibilities which would be very worrying in the unlikely event of him becoming PM.”
      Lol.. are you aware of woman named Ardern?
      
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      May 12, 2022 9:22pm
  - peterwn
    
    From media article – “Last year, Labour’s Michael Wood, Naisi Chen and Ginny Andersen were all namechecked for being late.”
    So There 😀
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:13am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      So they were all late too, but that’s different cause lefties
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:18pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Crime of the century – LOCK HIM UP.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:06am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The left are shitting their selves, they will try anything to stir the pot, the day after Bridges left, they asked him about the money to crime, he said it was good, they tried to suggest that was somehow a split in the ranks
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:21pm
- Prince
  
  I’d be concerned at the level of office support and political advice he is getting.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:11am
Ehlana

Morning report: Thursday ends in y, the sun has risen in the east and the Greens are complaining that a government policy is racist.

So that’s situation normal then.
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May 12, 2022 8:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are that stupid they still don’t know they are in government
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:04am
- Prince
  
  And another 20 sectors are demanding more Gummint money.
  What would the media do without these sector groups crying ‘Me, Me, Me’ ?
  It’s like a new entrants’ class.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:14am
Ra Henare

Ladies and lady wannabees seem obsessed with the Nadia Lim story and how bad that pale male stale Guy is.

Yet again we see the storm in a tea cup keeps getting reheated.

Today its Kate Hawkesby
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/early-edition/opinion/kate-hawkesby-simon-henrys-response-to-nadia-backlash-has-been-pathetic/

Maybe this Guy is old school. Says what he thinks? Freedom of speech anyone.

As to the myth that his comments wipe gazillions from his companies share price.
Yep a one day dip. But now share price is back to being higher that pre Interview and media outrage!!

Streisand effect anyone.

Maybe this guy is way smarter than all the wokesters combined. In one simple statement he has had more publicity for his company than any amount of advertising on MSM.

He continues to get publicity.
How does it go
Any publicity is good publicity 🙂
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May 12, 2022 8:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Any publicity is good publicity
  
  I suspect the folks holding shares in MFB are hoping that old adage is true.
  They’ll be wanting to cash in their shares asap.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:44am
- Yabster
  
  the laughable thing is the shit MSM have equated his comments with the decrease in the share price of his liste company- no mention the market is in a current correction/bear.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:45am
- Swifty
  
  Contrast the wall to wall coverage on this issue in our news media, from columnists, widespread on social media (there’s been tonnes of it on LinkedIn where lots of people have climbed aboard to display their virtue) with this gem from a certain Maori gentleman and covered in our media for all to see:
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/128470260/nikora-nitro-unfulfilled-promises-unpaid-debts-and-political-aspirations
  
  Not a peep.
  
  Why hasn’t this guy been excoriated in a way even remotely approaching the Henry bloke?
  
  Of course, we know why don’t we.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:57am
- kowtow
  
  Funny how rich white guy gets so much hatred from the media for saying not nice things about a woman , and the media party have gone into hyper drive to protect wimmin’s rights.
  
  Ok so if wimmin’s rights are so important , why don’t these warriors of wimmin’s rights speak up when the so called “Trans” mob and their activists destroy wimmin’s and girls rights daily.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:47am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Laughable. Henry hit the nail on the head. There’s more to a business than having a pretty face on the prospectus, and $1.74 to 82c tells the tale in spades. And the price is STILL going backwards.
  Give me Simon Henry over Nadia Lim any day. And as for the virtue signalling clown at Jardens, when was the last time he ever built a company?
  
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  May 12, 2022 4:09pm
Benedict Yu

Rumour is that the government is going to announce a “cash for clunkers” programme.

If your car is 20 years + old, the Government collects it, crushes it, and hands you an $11,000 rebate to spend on an EV (maybe a hybrid also). If you want to understand why this is a dumb idea read this.

http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com/2022/05/cash-for-clunzkers.html

It is going to be “means tested”. 🙂 Wait for the gaming.
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May 12, 2022 8:38am
- Swifty
  
  Cash for clunkers was a disaster in the States.
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:58am
  - westernScientist
    
    as it was in the UK
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:22am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      There’s a couple of good reasons why Liarbore would do it here.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:12am
- Frank the tank
  
  Wouldn’t surprise me. $11,000 for a piece of junk worth less than $250. That is right up the alleyway of Poor Man’s Gordon Brown.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:09am
- Phronesis
  
  Interesting problems around what will count as a car. Presumably it will have to be reg’d and wof’d and not just some wreck in a paddock. But then how many 20+ year old cars are actually on the road completely legally? If it does need a wof then not much to stop anything being wof’d if it’s just going to be scrapped, unless they do full wof checks at the scrap yard.
  
  The bigger problem is that in the current financial climate you need to be pretty well off to afford the extra $40K+ outlay on a new EV. What’s the point of means testing then.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:04am
  - MCōs
    
    After reading above I looked at the cars as I was walking on the mean streets of Mangere Bridge and saw one first registered in 2000.
    Twenty is pretty old for a car particularly as if much needs fixing it costs more than it’s worth.
    In the past I’ve glanced at cars on the even meaner streets of Onehunga and it’s interesting just how many have lapsed registration.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:24pm
    - Hebe123
      
      We had a 1998 Subaru Outback for awhile, my partner wanted to teach someone to drive in a manual. Needed a new engine from the wreckers but awesome car, no rust, runs really well. Will get my nephew through uni (up and down the SI to home) and be a great first car for someone after that.
      
      Yeah there is quite a difference between 20 yr old cars in south Auckland and other parts of the country.
      
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      May 12, 2022 8:56pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I’ve got two of them. One a V12 luxobarge. Wouldn’t trade either of them for $11k.
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:00pm
- kowtow
  
  Economics 101.
  
  The price of the goods will go up by the amount of the “subsidy”.
  
  More inflation and we the taxpayer will foot the bill.
  Double whammy for those of us on Struggle Street.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:08am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They are not going to crush my lovely 2001 Land Cruiser Prado special 50th Edition. It is a dam nice wagon, not a shitbox. Never been ‘offroad’
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:26am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I have a 2002 Toyota Celica. Not getting that either 🙂
    
    Folk ask me why I don’t upgrade. I tell them:
    
    – I would get $1500 for it if I was lucky
    – I know its service history – every small problem gets fixed before it turns into a big problem
    – It has a high spec engine and plenty of power
    – It has never let me down
    
    Of course, one day it will suffer something major and that will be the end. But until then I am keeping it. I have better thigs to spend money on than a stupid EV.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:58am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      As long as it is not rusty and not blowing smoke, they can leave it alone. My last two vehicles were Camrys – rust got them, but the motors would still be good at 500K km
      
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      May 12, 2022 1:03pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        I change the oil and oil filters regularly. There is no rust. Another thing is don’t ignore the transmission. Flush the transmission and replace the fluid every 40,000 km. In these older cars the transmission often goes and that is the end.
        
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        May 12, 2022 1:54pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        And the air filter, hardly anyone does that. Dirty blocked air filter is like the engine having asthma.
        The motor is an air pump, it sucks in air (with a bit of fuel, pushed the air up and goes bang. Then things go around and around
        
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        May 12, 2022 3:57pm
    - Hard Cheese
      
      I have a 2000 Celica and in the same boat. You are obviously a very smart man 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2022 1:05pm
  - lastmanstanding
    
    And they aint going to crush my NZ new 1999 Honda S2000 either.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:02pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Likewise my 2007 Subaru Legacy B sport H 6cylider 3 ltr. station wagon- with adjustable power/economy settings. I’ve just put a new set of tyres on it, new brakes & discs next week, & in June/July a new torque converter, which should eliminate the low rev. vibration when applying power at 1500 – 2000 rpm. Otherwise, its as good as a new one, and a better looking vehicle than the new ones.
      I’m keeping it till I go out in a box. 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:26pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Look at engine mounts
        
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        May 12, 2022 3:58pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Likewise, they’re not going to get my 1972 Mercedes 280SE 3.5 Classic Car which I only drive about once every two months. I have a Japanese Import which I use for everyday stuff and even that’ll outlast me.
      
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      May 12, 2022 1:09pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Smart car, smart man, LMS!
      
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      May 12, 2022 8:02pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…

One of the girls from tennis has sent us a copy of the latest ‘Register-of-Pecuniary-Interests’.

https://www.parliament.nz/media/9105/register-of-pecuniary-and-other-specified-interests-of-members-of-parlia-2022.pdf

Highlight for me…..Nanaia’s declaration for the ‘Gift of Aljazz Perfume’ from the Qatari Government 😀

But then I thort wait-a-moment, given Qatar’s record of human rights abuses, particularly against migrant workers, women and gays continuing to face discrimination both in law and practice, surely it’s not a good look for our Foreign-Affairs-Minister to be accepting koha from a regime with a record like that?

Just saying.
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May 12, 2022 8:41am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Indeed Maggie Pie. How many foreign labourers died during the construction of the stadia for the FIFA World Cup, the hosting rights of which were awarded in VERY dodgy and almost certainly corrupt circumstances?
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:48am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Something smells Tony.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:14am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      It’s all chronicled in a book called The Ugly Game – The Qatari Plot to Buy the World Cup by Heidi Blake and Jonathan Calvert:
      
      https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Ugly-Game/Heidi-Blake/9781501132964
      
      The “star” of the show was a billionaire Qatari businessman and football administrator named Mohammed bin Hammam, who paid millions in bribes to individuals and football associations right around the world. As much as I want the All Whites to beat Costa Rica next month and qualify for Qatar, this tournament should never have been awarded to them.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:03am
      - fightingtemeraire
        
        Beckham got GBP 150 Million to be the Ambassador for the WC
        
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        May 12, 2022 10:18am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        I read up on Qatar and their treatment of the workers who build the stadiums for the next Football WC. I will not watch any of the games – and I normally watch boat loads and have attended a Football World Cup i the past.
        
        Qatar 2022 is not tainted -its covered in dirty filthy corrupt faeces and blood. Stay clear of it
        
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        May 12, 2022 3:12pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Our Glorious Leader got a gift from Cuba.
  
  Another paragon of human rights.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:10am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I hope it wasn’t a voucher to stay at the luxury hotel that blew up the other day, from a gas leak!
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Black Military Beret with Red Star?
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:30am
trout

While the Biden administration is casting around for candidates for Government roles conditional on them being LBGTQ ‘women of colour’ we are experiencing our own version of conscious bias. If you are running any sort of competition in the Arts, dispensing grants, making status awards (NZ of the year etc) the winner should preferably Maori (The award to Stephen O’Regan well after his use-by-date was ridiculous), or if a Maori cannot be found then reward an LBGTQ female.
Stale, pale, males need not apply. There seems to me no acknowledgement of the conscious bias; just mutual backslapping; the woke agenda has been served.
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May 12, 2022 8:46am
- amospicton
  
  Indeed Trout and in a similar vein I see that Ukraine are overwhelming favourites for the Eurovision Song Contest. Here’s an idea – somewhat old fashioned admittedly – how about we select on the basis of merit???
  
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  May 12, 2022 8:59am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    What has merit ever had to do with Eurovision? Not that I have ever watched it, or cared in the slightest, but it is clearly an advertising contest between the least self-confident nations/ethnicities of Europe, and is only incidentally about music.
    
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    May 12, 2022 9:34am
    - MCōs
      
      Not that you’ve ever watched it, of course.
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:29pm
cas

I was just thinking about vindictive David Parker and his desire to tax the wealthy. I then had a look in the Charities Commission website and saw 29 companies associated with Ngai Tahu which are charities including Ngai Tahu Property, seafood, tourism etc. There are 19 charities associated with Tainui. I didn’t look any further as it would have upset breakfast. As well as Gloriavale and sanitarium, might not some of those supposed charities be looked at too?
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May 12, 2022 8:51am
- crikey
  
  You can be sure they, and others similar, will not be included in any rejigging of the tax system to make it “fair”.
  
  Give me one reason why these Maori Corporations should not be paying tax.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:13am
trout

I see that Gloriavale has paid recently paid tax because of changes in the tax laws applying to charities;
‘ changes introduced by Inland Revenue (IRD), which meant businesses controlled by charities now have to be registered charities themselves to obtain tax-exempt status.’
These changes are welcome but do not go far enough; the tax exempt status of ‘charities’ is a massive rort.
Why should iwi and churches operate businesses that are tax free?. In my view the commercial operations should pay company tax on profits and if shareholders want to be a charity they can disburse donations out of profits after tax is paid. Charity status has been granted to Iwi and churches (Seventh Day Adventist (Sanitarium) in particular) because they distribute funds to ‘good causes’ but these causes are usually within their own organization or whanau (supposedly having ‘community benefit). How is this different from me paying tax on my income and distributing some of the meagre leftover to my children and grandchildren for educational purposes? Can I get tax free status also?.
Not to mention that tax free status gives iwi and church businesses an unfair advantage over competitors.
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May 12, 2022 9:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Some 1640 milking cows there. Will they reduce the herd to do their bit for climate change?
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:36am
- Don Beckett
  
  Charitable donations are usually claimable against tax.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:38am
- Ehlana
  
  trout, it sounds like the changes are addressing the very problem you mention: “businesses controlled by charities now have to be registered charities themselves to obtain tax-exempt status”.
  Charitable purpose is limited to the relief of poverty, the advancement of education,
  or religion, or anything else that benefits the community. I would think that precludes any commercial enterprise.
  
  Non-commercial enterprises, like charity shops where volunteers sell donated goods to raise money for a charitable purpose are presumably not what you want to stop.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:55am
- marcw
  
  Businesses that operate as charities should be transitioned into the same refund policy as do charitable individuals (everyone else). After paying tax on income and profit, tax refunds are only issued after presentation of audited receipts for the charitable donations/services which have been provided. A bit of transparency will open a few eyes.
  
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  May 12, 2022 11:13am
  - Ehlana
    
    I was thinking more along the lines of the business operation pays taxes on its profits like every other business does. What the owning charity then chooses to do with their tax paid profits is up to them – reinvest in the business, or draw them out to use for their charitable purpose. No tax refunds required (unless the business has donated to another charity, in which case it would, of course, have an auditable receipt).
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

In Parliament’s General Debate yesterday afternoon, David Seymour predicted that 3 Waters was dead in the water…

He reckons Labour MPs in marginal seats are failing to support the 3 Waters policy.

DAVID SEYMOUR: Well, there you have it. It is clearly the case that the Labour Party cannot hack it. They don’t like backing down, but the back-down has been voted in their caucus. It’s coming, and we are not going to see three waters as advertised, because they’ve finally realised that it just doesn’t stack up as a policy and it’s not worth losing your seat for bad policy. That’s why three waters co-governance is on the way out. Ka kite anō.

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20220511_20220511_20/tab/video?page=6&mode=form
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May 12, 2022 9:10am
- Frank the tank
  
  There is a looming shit fight coming in the party in general.
  
  It will be the Maori Squad vs Poor Man’s Gordon Brown, Clark and the other ‘moderates (LOL)’ in the Labour caucus. This was reflected in his negative views regarding Steamboat willy’s bigoted comments regarding Seymour.
  
  Our Glorious Leader will look on impassively unable to decide which side to pick. Make no mistake as Labour slides towards the 20’s there is a big shit fight brewing as Grunter sees his chance of becoming PM slip, sliding away.
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:16am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    Once the polls hit mid to low 30’s the knives will be out.
    
    Jacinda will be at the level she was in 2017 when Winnie appointed her PM. She will have lost 50% approx of her support in 18 months.
    
    Where will she go??? Will the UN want an abject failure????
    
    Ch Exec of Socialist International???
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:02am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Morgan poll has had Labour at low 30s 3 in a row, I suggest they will be in between the 38% and the 32% of Morgan, so mid 30s is on them, I have heard some of the internal polls have been far worse than we are seeing, and some have started with a 2
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:32pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    The next leader of the Labour party will either be Nanaia Mahuta or Michael Wood.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:05am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Either of them would see them go under 20%, which is where they deserve to be.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:14am
      - kowtow
        
        Anyone other than St Jax of the Plague would see them in the mid twenties.
        
        She is all they have. Very odd.
        
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        May 12, 2022 10:23am
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      If that is the case, bring it on!!!!!
      
      They will plummet in the polls to between 15 and 20%.
      
      Maori MPs will desert to Te Pati Maori
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:16am
      - curry4me
        
        If they go thst low, they deserve to stay there until at least 2051.
        
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        May 12, 2022 2:05pm
    - crikey
      
      Tony Stuart: If so, great news for National/Act.
      
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      May 12, 2022 10:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda is going to America soon.
    Strange things happen when the PM is overseas.
    
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    May 12, 2022 10:39am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, s as no Parker and Racist Willie raised their Marxist voices
      
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      May 12, 2022 12:43pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Willie timed this well, cunning as a shithouse rat
        
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        May 12, 2022 4:00pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Every time you see Robertson speak, or a photo of him while speaking, his mouth is always half opened even when he gets to the end of a sentence, it’s bizarre, you would think he had lock jaw or something, don’t think that look will be warming to the voter
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:27pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Wonder if he goes to many picnics?
      
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      May 12, 2022 3:19pm
    - cmm
      
      Robbo always has that surprised look as if he just sat on a carrot.
      https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWIC5nc137Bmx04JlfXAq0R4sX_K5WOt49tg&usqp=CAU
      
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      May 12, 2022 4:17pm
- westernScientist
  
  I hope he is right
  
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  May 12, 2022 9:29am
I remember when

This is what Judge Callinicos was warning about:
“So essentially social workers were influencing the outcome by being selective.”
Is the selectiveness of social workers the result of the increasingly opinion driven media.
The you don’t know anything about it unless you have been homeless, in poverty, the victim of racist behaviour, rape, etc.
Naturally, resulting in the system being victim opinion driven instead of careful consideration of the facts.
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May 12, 2022 9:10am
Frank the tank

https://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300586256/eu-lifts-mask-recommendation-for-air-travel-as-pandemic-ebbs

Cindy, the world has moved on Love – I suggest you do too
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May 12, 2022 9:21am
Fisiani2

Celtic are once again Champions. What a great day.
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May 12, 2022 9:33am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It’s not if you’re a Rangers fan!
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:05am
  - rockape
    
    I am ,went to my first school, Govan Primary, directly opposite Ibrox Park main gate.
    
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    May 12, 2022 11:57am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      ‘Gers through to the Euro Final though
      
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      May 12, 2022 8:07pm
- Biscuit
  
  Good, 100% true, story for you Fisian12.
  
  Me and my pals went to a Quiz Night years ago.
  
  Up-himself Quiz ‘Master’:
  
  Which football team did Rod Stewart sing about in ‘You’re In My Heart’?
  
  Being a 100% clued-up individual I put in our answer as ‘Well, he doesn’t actually sing about any one team. He mentions Celtic and (presumably Manchester) United but his point is that his squeeze is better than ALL teams.
  
  He reckoned his answer was ‘Celtic United’.
  
  And he marked us wrong.
  
  Drongo!
  
  No amount of ridicule for his ‘My answers are aways correct!’ could get him to change his mind.
  
  We never went back, ha.
  
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  May 12, 2022 1:26pm
  - Fisiani2
    
    Celtic have won The Scottish Premiership in 10 out of the 11 past seasons. Normal service resumed.
    Scottish football =Celtic win
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:48pm
  - plc
    
    Correct answer was Celtic and SCUM
    
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    May 12, 2022 3:51pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Something on the idiot box this morning about breast cancer fundraiser.
Will the same happen for prostate cancer?
Breast cancer there are 600 deaths per year, prostate cancer 650 deaths per year – with 3500 diagnosed as getting it.
While we are there, how many Covid deaths per year? Seems to be a lot of noise still being made.
Control, Covid is all about control by the marxists.
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May 12, 2022 9:37am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Steve, we both know that prostate cancer isn’t “sexy” and headline-grabbing, like breast cancer or cervical cancer. That’s because the vast majority of prostate cancer victims are elderly men, who are basically viewed as expendable.
  
  My father died from prostate cancer which had metastisised to his spine. He was only 72 when he died. Because of his disease, prostate cancer is something I’ve taken some interest in. Generally, it’s a disease you die with, not of, but Dad was one of the less fortunate.
  
  Something like 70% of men over 70 will have some malignant cells in their prostate, going up to more than 90% of men over 90. But you won’t find many slogans, snazzy marketing and tug-at-the-heartstrings functions for prostate cancer, and in the meantime, men will keep dying.
  
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  May 12, 2022 12:07pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I have taken an interest because I have it. Low level 2/12 biopsy. Active surveillance. PSA and MRIs.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:36pm
  - MCōs
    
    Nothing sexy about breast cancer.
    https://prostate.org.nz/
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:41pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I have plenty of info and contact groups if I want them. Prostate cancer is scary at first, but being mentally strong it is easy to cope with
      
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      May 12, 2022 1:08pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Pro-state is cancer
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:11pm
- oldfella
  
  Cindy could learn from this. Oh, wait…
  North Korea confirms its first case of Covid-19 as leader Kim Jong Un vows to ‘overcome’ the outbreak and state media declares a ‘severe national emergency’
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10807785/North-Korea-confirms-case-Covid-19.html
  
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  May 12, 2022 12:47pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Break out the anti aircraft guns!
    
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    May 12, 2022 8:12pm
I remember when

So DGL was blacklisted by Kiwisaver fund Kiwi Wealth as a result.
Wonder whether their time should have been spent ensuring that their portfolio was correctly balanced for the current sharemarket downturn.
Incidentally, I wonder how the market is viewing their withdrawal from companies with any involvement in armaments, in light of the Russian and China actions.
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May 12, 2022 9:41am
westernScientist

At some point he should just be called deluded.

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/115746/finance-minister-believes-nz-strong-position-weather-current-global-storms
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May 12, 2022 9:42am
Maggie Pie

Calls coming in thick and fast to have these Billboards removed.

Leftards have never understood sarcasm….

https://twitter.com/voices_nz/status/1523852190598807554
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May 12, 2022 9:45am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The sarcasm app can not be installed in lefties
  
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  May 12, 2022 1:10pm
Maggie Pie

No one under 140kg….

Rachel Smalley could have a field-day with this 😀

https://twitter.com/Antman0528/status/1524166636034473984
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May 12, 2022 10:15am
- Alwynn
  
  I thought it was an American Football game.
  
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  May 12, 2022 10:36am
- JimBobJoe
  
  NFL Linemen have mothers and sisters Maggie.. be kind.
  
  Maybe those ladies just need to sweat those excess pounds off via a few solid sessions with the tennis pro??? I hear that burns calories quite well….
  
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  May 12, 2022 3:20pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IifQ9B3fvrs

The RINO Purge Continues! – Nebraska & West Virginia Primary Analysis.

Primaries for the 2022 Midterm Elections took place last night in both Nebraska and West Virginia, which saw several RINOs get defeated by solid conservative candidates. [10:08]
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May 12, 2022 10:23am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Long may it continue.
  Trump 2022/2024
  
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  May 12, 2022 1:11pm
  - curry4me
    
    I agree. It’s important to keep one or two RINOs though. Can’t have the GOP voters forgetting what they look like.
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:25pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4lntBn-2IRM/

Elon Musk Reverses Trump Twitter Ban! ‘Morally Wrong and Flat Out Stupid’!

Elon Musk has announced that he will indeed reverse President Trump’s Twitter ban, calling it ‘morally wrong and flat out stupid’! We’re going to hear for ourselves what Musk had to say, we’re going to see how studies actually corroborate his decision to reverse the ban, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal precisely why the worst nightmares of woke leftists are being realized right before their very eyes. [Well done, Elon. 17:03]
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May 12, 2022 10:24am
- Maggie Pie
  
  There’s already thousands of people tweeting that if Elon lets Trumpy back on Twitter they’ll be moving to Canada.
  
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  May 12, 2022 11:56am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yeah yeah yea yeah, heard it all before. Lying hipocrites
    
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    May 12, 2022 1:13pm
  - curry4me
    
    Don’t even think of setting up a trailer hire outfit to assist them. You’ll go broke in record time. They’ll no more move than fly to Mars.
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:27pm
- MCōs
  
  He hasn’t bought Twitter yet.
  
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  May 12, 2022 12:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yet. Musk seems to be getting along with Dorsey just fine.
    
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    May 12, 2022 1:15pm
I remember when

Carter’s April 1977 agenda to minimize dependence on OPEC oil:
Everything the US government wanted the US people to do in 1977, because of OPEC and oil prices…
now…
happens to be on the list of climate alarmists claim we must do this to save the planet.
Forty five years of climate change doubters arguments being found to be wrong and Climate Alarmists never having to change a single aspect.
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May 12, 2022 10:24am
rjay

Not bad: US$700,000 for a day’s work as CFO at Moderna…before something fishy turned up in the background
https://www.hcamag.com/nz/specialisation/leadership/vaccine-makers-cfo-lasts-one-day-on-the-job/405614?utm_source=GA&e=cnNjb3R0QHN0ZWxsYXJpcy5jby5ueg&utm_medium=20220511&utm_campaign=HRDNZW-Breaking-Inverted-20220512&utm_content=E53E9DB2-04F8-438C-B07B-145CE5DEEF3F&tu=E53E9DB2-04F8-438C-B07B-145CE5DEEF3F
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May 12, 2022 10:47am
krazykiwi

“The Biggest Global Power Grab We Have Seen in Our Lifetimes”: How Serious is the Threat From the WHO Pandemic Treaty?

Later this month the World Health Assembly, the governing body of the World Health Organisation, will meet in Geneva, Switzerland, and among its business are amendments put forward by the U.S. Government to the pandemic treaty, the International Health Regulations 2005.

The process of creating a new pandemic treaty or amending the existing one was announced in December (though the origins go back earlier) and was a response to a call from governments, including the U.K, for a strengthened global pandemic strategy coordinated by the WHO.

In a consensus decision aimed at protecting the world from future infectious diseases crises, the World Health Assembly today agreed to kickstart a global process to draft and negotiate a convention, agreement or other international instrument under the Constitution of the World Health Organisation to strengthen pandemic prevention, preparedness and response.

Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General, said the decision by the World Health Assembly was historic in nature, vital in its mission, and represented a once-in-a-generation opportunity to strengthen the global health architecture to protect and promote the well-being of all people.

Many are concerned, however, that the U.S. amendments will transfer significant sovereignty over public health policy to an unelected and unaccountable global organisation.

Michele Bachmann, Dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University and a former U.S. Congressman, has sounded the alarm about what she sees as a dangerous power grab by an unaccountable organisation with a poor track record in thrall to communist China.

If you know little about this treaty, then I recommend some research. If implemented, the neutering of our national sovereignty will make He Puapua look like totalitarian amateur-hour.
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May 12, 2022 11:00am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Mainstream (corporate & state) media is not covering this at all, either. In fact, it seems we have heaps of distractions being thrown about so we miss this completely.
  
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  May 12, 2022 12:17pm
- Swifty
  
  We should run a mile.
  
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  May 12, 2022 12:39pm
  - mawm
    
    I’m sure Cindy is happy to support it. Probably will sign it whilst in NY.
    
    Rumour is as Gates is such a large donor to WHO they consult him before doing anything. He is truely turning out to be “Dr Evil” and with the non-pandemic and slight of hand suddenly he is able to control the world.
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:11pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes we should.
    
    It’s a certainty that Ardern will, without a second thought, gift our sovereignty to the unelected megalomanics of the UN as she eyes up an altogether larger trough to wallow in once voters finally turf her from power.
    
    But where is Luxon on this?
    
    Hello, Come in Chrisopher? Hello…? I’m eagerly listening for your position on this, so perhaps when you’re done ‘having conversations’ about co-governance, and done asking ‘what it really means’ perhaps you might like to comment what if anything National proposes to do about the annexation of our sovereignty by unelected global elites.
    
    In your own time….
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:42pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Luxon is very likely onboard, given his total subservience to climate change. We had a chance with Judith Collins, but it seems the pro-Globalist side won in National.
      
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      May 12, 2022 3:30pm
- Niz
  
  Meh, it’s no big deal. Can’t we sign up to it and say something dopey like “Oh, it’s not binding”?
  You know, like the UNDRIP thing.
  That’s worked out OK, hasn’t it?
  
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  May 12, 2022 1:22pm
stiff cheese

TV News says the Govt will change the rules so some employers can pay imported workers less than The Minimum Wage.

So let’s have some sympathy for our fellow citizens working in those industries: Tourism and Hospitality.
I know one of them: her chances of getting a pay rise have just been sunk; her hopes of getting on the property ladder — pushed away.
Any dreams of starting a family and living above the poverty line? Not even possible.

How about sticking up for N.Z. workers, Labour Party?
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May 12, 2022 11:23am
- Nickc2
  
  These bastards don’t think before opening their mouths. We’ve been trying for months to get NZers into these jobs and along comes Faafoi who virtually states those in these jobs can be paid below the minimum wage.
  What a . . . . . . (insert own expletive).
  Wasn’t Faafoi’s leader stating that if we paid enough, NZers would come running for jobs? She was talking about fruit pickers ATT.
  
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  May 12, 2022 11:55am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Labour have spent a lot of money “investing” in people sitting on the couch all day and breeding kids they can’t afford all night. At the same time the red witch says she aims to eliminade poverdy. To do that you have to keep the average wage not too far above the minimum wage and the dole. It will be helped by an exodus of high income earners. Poverdy is a measure of inequality.
    
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    May 12, 2022 12:15pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This is the 2022 Labour Party (Marxist)
  The Labour Party of the seventies is old school – gone forever.
  
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  May 12, 2022 1:18pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Come on Steve, you’re forgetting that in the 70s, Labour Pollies and Trade Union officials used to go to the USSR for their holidays and medical treatment.
    AFIK, the same allegiances still remain today only they’re hidden. These days, Labour hunt with the Hounds (America) but sleeps with the Foxes (Russia).
    
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    May 12, 2022 1:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

We know they are lying.
They know they are lying.
They know that we know they are lying.
They know that they know that we know they are lying.
And still they continue to lie.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
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May 12, 2022 11:41am
Maggie Pie

NEWS FLASH…

Another case of Arkancide? 🙁

https://mol.im/a/10805997
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May 12, 2022 11:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  What’s that now? Over 260?
  Nobody has 58 personal friends who suicided – nobody!
  
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  May 12, 2022 12:40pm
  - mawm
    
    Quite honestly if Hillary was in my circle I’d probably become suicidal.
    
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    May 12, 2022 2:14pm
cmm

A man without a driver’s license has been forbidden from driving.

Really?

C’mon, dudges. You can do better than this.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/128619279/forbidden-to-drive-man-who-has-never-had-a-licence-caught-driving–again
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May 12, 2022 12:24pm
Swifty

Why do our news media reporters persist with referring to these losers as ‘gangsters’?

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300586600/man-who-ran-meth-ring-from-behind-bars-released-after-19-years

What does the term even mean?

Rather than conferring this label, which I would assume most of these dirtbags would welcome, there are 100 terms I think would be more accurate and preferable.

How about parasite, scumbag, leech, coward, fleabag, toy town tough etc?
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May 12, 2022 12:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This guy needs to buy a Lotto ticket.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/passenger-with-no-flying-experience-safely-lands-plane-in-florida/?
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May 12, 2022 12:41pm
- krazykiwi
  
  You’d be surprised at how much skill can be gained for 100s of hours on flight simulation software
  
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  May 12, 2022 2:00pm
  - cmm
    
    The real plane doesn’t have an undo button.
    
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    May 12, 2022 4:20pm
- greybeard
  
  I reckon it was a setup.
  Two people on a dual control plane.
  Perfect landing.
  Yeah, right.
  
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  May 12, 2022 5:29pm
Maggie Pie

Can u believe this?

Happened to hear ZB’s Political Reporter Jason Walls, telling those two drongos who host the Noon-4 show, that he found Y20,000 outside a Gucci store in Japan during his recent media trip with the PM.

When they asked him if he handed it in, Jase said…. “No, he actually split it with a colleague, and they converted it to NZD when they got back home”.

Needless to say, both of the pathetic wokesters said they would have handed it in to the police!

I’ve just taken my finger out of my throat and tuned into Mark & Leah on TodayFM.

SHEESH.
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May 12, 2022 12:48pm
- kowtow
  
  That makes him a thief.
  
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  May 12, 2022 2:45pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Report that in Japan and see what happens. The Japanese are v honest people and this find would have been handed in at the nearest Police Box.
  
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  May 12, 2022 3:31pm
mandk

Another 9,392 covid cases today.

I’m so pleased we have the Vax to keep us from being infected //
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May 12, 2022 1:16pm
Joely Doe

At what point does this stop being ‘journalism’ and start becoming harassment?

Watch: Simon Henry flees Nadia Lim questions after tennis session in Auckland
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May 12, 2022 1:38pm
Nickc2

How many of these nutters will end up with amputated fingers and heads kicked in? Asking for a friend.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/it-will-increase-climate-action-group-deflating-aucklanders-suv-tyres-vows-to-step-up-action-claims-public-support/ar-AAX8mZ4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=600697d7b5ba459cf468486f7ab7cd10
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May 12, 2022 2:12pm
Maggie Pie

WOW!

My partner just received a newsletter from one of his banks….looks like Westpac are very very gloomy on the housing market.
Saying first impressions for April, show sales were down by more than 33% compared to this time last year, and they’re now expecting prices to drop by at least 15%. Listings have increased by a massive 50%!!

Great for first home buyers of course, at it’s mainly affecting homes in the $2m or under bracket.
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May 12, 2022 2:17pm
- Frank the tank
  
  And right in the sheeple sweet spot Mags. Even the Sheeple without penises will be frothing if their houses drop by 15% and they still can’t go to the GC or Denarau this year……
  
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  May 12, 2022 5:27pm

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