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mikenmildagain

Happy Malbec World Day!
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April 17, 2022 8:05am
- krazykiwi
  
  On any other day I’d drink to that. Today I’ll take communion. (No, it’s grape juice!)
  
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  April 17, 2022 8:25am
  - peterwn
    
    Many years ago I saw a bottle of raspberry cordial behind the pulpit in a Methodist church.
    
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    April 17, 2022 8:47am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  O Mikey! Missing the obvious once more.
  
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  April 17, 2022 8:25am
  - Mike
    
    True. It’s also World Hemophilia Day.
    
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    April 17, 2022 10:56am
- Jade Warrior
  
  There’ll be a big party in Cahors today if that is the case.
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:59am
Sean OConnor

Happy Easter! He is Risen!
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April 17, 2022 8:08am
- Tony Stuart
  
  He is risen indeed! A refrain that will be heard at churches right around the world for the next 24 hours.
  
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  April 17, 2022 8:20am
  - Ra Henare
    
    As long as they are Christian Churches.
    Hindus
    Islam
    Buddists
    Shinto and all the others
    etc wont be
    
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    April 17, 2022 8:29am
    - Sean OConnor
      
      You don’t say? When someone wishes you good morning, do you point out that it’s night time overseas?
      
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      April 17, 2022 6:57pm
      - Sean OConnor
        
        On second thoughts, I was being graceless, ignore that comment Ra.
        
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        April 17, 2022 9:24pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Didn’t “He” rise on the Monday? IIRC the crucifixion was on Good Friday and “On the third day he rose from the dead…” which makes the Main Event tomorrow, surely and not today?
    
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    April 17, 2022 10:16am
    - Sean OConnor
      
      No. The women and the disciples arrived at the tomb on the first day of the week (see e.g. Luke 24), which in the Jewish calendar is Sunday morning.
      
      There’s a little debate around the crucifixion day (Wednesday, Thursday or Friday) owing to the fact that the Passover counts as a sabbath and there could therefore have been two sabbaths in the same week, but the Sunday is universally agreed upon and clear from the text.
      
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      April 17, 2022 10:31am
      - David Garrett
        
        Sean: Thank you for that – genuinely, I wasn’t being sarcastic.
        
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        April 17, 2022 11:22am
      - curry4me
        
        Oh, I should have known that. Thanks for the clarification.
        
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        April 17, 2022 12:27pm
    - oldfella
      
      DG: Friday, day one. Saturday, day two. Making Sunday the third day. Yes?
      
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      April 17, 2022 10:50am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      DG – Get your counting right. “On the third day” means Friday – Day 1, Saturday – Day 2 and Sunday – Third day. Not 3 days after.
      
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      April 17, 2022 10:58am
    - Mike
      
      Used to confuse me, too. But the crucifixion was on the first day and the resurrection on the third. But these myths are very flexible, of course.
      
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      April 17, 2022 11:00am
    - jonno1
      
      One explanation is that the Jews at that time counted each part day as 1 day. So Friday pm + Saturday + Sunday am = 3 days. It didn’t necessarily mean 72 hours.
      
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      April 17, 2022 12:30pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      How can anyone downtick that? It was a genuine question.
      
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      April 17, 2022 12:51pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Indeed He is. Blessing, purpose and hope freely available to all.
  
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  April 17, 2022 8:22am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I’m happy for all you sky fairy enthusiasts.
    
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    April 17, 2022 8:46am
    - Sean OConnor
      
      If you ever get tired of having to choose between nihilism and making your morality up arbitrarily, you know where to find us, and we’ll welcome you with open arms.
      
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      April 17, 2022 9:01am
      - Swifty
        
        Give me a morality reasoned, discussed and agreed versus one labelled ‘objective’ and deceitfully said to be ‘from a god’ any day.
        
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        April 17, 2022 11:13am
      - Sean OConnor
        
        @Swifty: Tell me how you get that ought from your is.
        
        You guys make crap up arbitrarily, you know it’s made up, and yet you insist on living your whole life by it. Even if you were right about the existence of God, we’d be doing nothing more than you already do.
        
        If you’re like most current atheists, you’re on the, “Sure, evolution is ultimately amoral and only rewards reproduction, not how nice you were along the way, but somehow looking at it suggests we should be virtuous. We’ll handwave a bit about cooperation and organisation and ignore that every war, oppressive regime and even genocide was a cooperative effort and conclude that Genghis Khan’s DNA being in 25% of mankind is no obstacle to trying to get being nice from natural selection”.
        
        There’s loads of better secular arguments but I’m preempting this one as it’s so common despite being so utterly daft.
        What’s yours?
        
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        April 17, 2022 7:10pm
    - RichardX
      
      I agree CaptM…if that is what makes them happy, they are welcome to it.
      
      I was in my early teens when I realised that one third of a trinitarian god spending a long weekend being dead as some sort of sacrifice to provide a loophole for the actions of a fictitious couple created by the same supposedly omniscient god so I could be forgiven for things I hadn’t done made no sense.
      
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      April 17, 2022 9:28am
      - Swifty
        
        It’s just nonsensical isn’t it?
        
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        April 17, 2022 11:14am
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        Most of us get over much of what we believed in our early teens, a time when most people don’t know their ass from their elbow. Religious doctrine aside, the idea that a grown adult can still unironically believe in a universe restricted to mere blind material interactions and processes, and thus absent any purpose or intrinsic value, is astounding. I guess the world needs shallow people too.
        
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        April 17, 2022 1:03pm
      - RichardX
        
        I was only commenting on doctrine RR but if you have evidence for the existence of some external source of “purpose or intrinsic value”, I’m happy to hear it.
        
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        April 17, 2022 5:00pm
    - mogg
      
      I have no religious conviction either, but neither do I feel the need to insult people who do.
      
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      April 17, 2022 10:00am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Good on you mogg. One of my best mates is an atheist, and 100% of my business partners have been atheist or agnostic in world view.
        
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        April 17, 2022 12:45pm
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        Atheists believe in a God just as much as theists, except to the atheist, they themselves are God (i.e. the guide to action and arbiter of right and wrong) because this notion frees them from any restriction or responsibility for their actions. To even believe in a distinction between right and wrong is to believe in some standard outside of one’s self. The only distinction is arguing as to which facts are right or wrong, but this presupposes a criterion.
        
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        April 17, 2022 1:11pm
      - Souvlaki
        
        Indeed !
        Not personally a believer, but the Christian ethic “do unto others, as you would have them do unto you” is pretty hard to go past as an excellent guiding creed.
        Here endeth the sermon.
        
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        April 17, 2022 2:37pm
      - RichardX
        
        Yes Souvlaki, the Golden Rule, espoused by many religions and predating Christianity, is a good maxim.
        
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        April 17, 2022 3:44pm
      - Sean OConnor
        
        @RichardX: The Golden Rule isn’t actually central to any major religion except Christianity.
        
        The few that mention it along the way mostly only mention the negative form (don’t do to others things you wouldn’t be done by).
        
        Few mention the positive form (do unto others), and no others have the strongest form: Love others as you love yourself.
        
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        April 17, 2022 7:15pm
- surfing
  
  Sounds like you had a nice morning.
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:43am
Scott

In town in Masterton Saturday morning at around 11am. Five guys on motorbikes came by, no gang insignia. All had motorbikes that were really loud and they were revving them really loud. They roared past, then five minutes later came back roaring their bikes again.
Shouldn’t those bikes be stopped by the police? At those volumes they can’t be legal? But the police are not doing anything. Last month a group of nomads on bikes did the same thing.

But here is the thing. These small acts of unpunished lawlessness become bigger acts of lawlessness. Some people will just keep getting worse and will only stop when law enforcement steps in to stop them.

These small things show the community the rule of law is not operating . If small acts of lawlessness go unpunished it emboldens the criminal element and dismays the law abiding public.

We need a government that will maintain law and order. And we need a community that demands law and order from our police and our politicians.
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April 17, 2022 8:09am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I am not sure what the laws are here about noisy vehicles. In Taiwan, it would be impossible to own such vehicles because vehicle noise is highly regulated.
  
  https://law.moj.gov.tw/ENG/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?pcode=O0030013
  
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  April 17, 2022 8:37am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The loud exhaust does not mean more HP.
    Theatre, look at me
    
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    April 17, 2022 9:20am
  - rouppe
    
    https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/vehicle-equipment-amendment-2007-qa/#:~:text=The%20current%20decibel%20limit%20for,3%20or%20less%3A%2096%20dBA
    
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    April 17, 2022 12:45pm
- Caleb
  
  Vehicle noise is only an offence if you are a teenage boy racer.
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:08am
- Hebe123
  
  I live in a nice suburb in chch – not flash but middle class. Our neighbours have the only rental in the vicinity and their son has just got out of prison and been bought a motorbike by his affiliates. While he isn’t living there, every day he is out revving his bike outside the house for 20 mins before driving off – at least 5x a day. The neighbourhood are not happy about the gang patch being worn nor the excessive noise including late at night but nobody wants to do anything either as his parents are nice (if ineffectual) people. And the lad himself is nice enough and has turned it down when asked – for a few days. I’m inclined to talk to Mum but dads just home from major surgery….thoughts?
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:14am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    An engine won’t start with gap filling foam blocking the exhaust/muffler, it’s non-obvious and tricky to diagnose, and it takes a lot of effort to remove, but won’t permanently damage the engine
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:35am
  - artemisia
    
    I would consider having a quiet and supportive word with the mother, maybe in a few days. Tell her the noise is a problem and several neighbours are getting grumpy. You are happy to help, if she and her husband wish it. Ask her what she would like you to do.
    
    Have a couple of suggestions in your back pocket. Might be a plan to make a recording and play it to the kid. He may have no idea.
    
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    April 17, 2022 4:52pm
- David Garrett
  
  Scott: You have just outlined the basics of “broken windows” policing:
  
  These small things show the community the rule of law is not operating . If small acts of lawlessness go unpunished it emboldens the criminal element and dismays the law abiding public.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:18am
  - PeeJay
    
    Well that’s a blast from the past – read a lot on the New York approach to crime and the broken windows policy. And broken windows is absolutely trashed by the left and the intelligentsia. Quite funny really as they go to great lengths to discredit the New York police approach on broken windows as having no impact on the declining crime rates……just seemed to be a complete coincidence that the declining crime rate happened when the NYPD implemented this tough on crime approach.
    
    Sometimes complex problems need complex solutions. Crime is not one of those problems – simple solutions can be bloody effective. I grew up in a really rough area – the cops were feared and respected. I doubt the same is true today of the thin blue line.
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:09am
- kowtow
  
  it actually starts with the vast majority agreeing freely to live in cooperative society together , respecting other people’s right to enjoy their lives un hindered and to all of us getting on earning a living in relative peace and harmony.
  
  It’s just plain old common decency and good manners.
  
  when more and more toe rags decide they don’t subscribe to that very simple common vision then we need sanctions .
  
  but in the post modern world you’ll get no shortage of wokists insisting that the rule breakers , wreckers have as much right to do so as the majority has to peaceable enjoyment , and that’s what we’re getting and we’re seeing a generalised break down .
  
  It won’t end well.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:18am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    To some groups living in society, only the threat of enforcement and sanction keeps them in line (and maybe not even then), as opposed to a sense of respect and common decency. It would be an interesting social experiment to remove all state enforcement for one day and survey what crimes have been committed and by whom as a result. It would be an interesting diagnostic tool with regard to some of the country’s problems.
    
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    April 17, 2022 1:17pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  Remember Guilianas Broken Windows policy and how how cleaned up New York when he was Mayor. Over the past 50 years my observation has been that as the bulk of crime is commited by non-whites Governments Police Courts legal profession have increasely turned a blind eye trying to hide the problem.
  Like the drunk until they admit they are a drunk there will be no cure. The Morons wont admit that non-whites have a procivility to crime that has been excused like bad parents excuse their naughty child.
  The Morons are the cause of the crime by not taking action.
  They lack the capacity capability and most importantly the will to fix the problem. A Pox on all of them.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:30am
  - Mike
    
    Always refreshing to have the claims for white superiority spelled out with breathtaking certitude.
    And many upticks too, of course.
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:04am
  - PeeJay
    
    I’m sorry but the borderline racism in this post spoils a good message.
    
    They don’t commit these crimes because of race.
    
    I can absolutely guarantee you that in white dominated poor areas with the worst socio-economic stats in places like Glasgow, Dublin and so on, the same issues abound – and this will be nothing to do with race. Same would happen in any asian country without multi-ethnic backgrounds. Feral scum will be feral scum regardless of race. Just so happens that in NZ, poor socio-economics happens to align closely with race – not exclusively as there are plenty of feral white scum out and about.
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:17am
  - RF
    
    Yep…. It worked in New York.
    
    Spoke to a NYPD cop over here on holiday. He believed that petty street crime if not stamped on escalated to more serious stuff.
    
    He could not believe the soft approach demanded by Coster.
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:31am
- Humai
  
  Yup – I would bet money they were one particular model of Harley Davidson that has become the darling of the gang world and the choice of bauble for incoming recruits – the V-Rod.
  
  They have a very distinctive drone, audible for miles, due to a combo of an easy exhaust-gutting mod and their 60 degree cylinder offset (traditionally, Harleys have been 45 degree). The engine was originally designed by Porsche, so they are way more powerful than the traditional air-cooled Harley. Better for that impromptu get-away, eh?
  
  In parts of Auckland, the aural ambience of these things is almost constant. They have become the sound of gang success and the audible evidence of illicit commercial activity.
  
  Anyone with access to NZTA’s registration records could graph the importation and registration of these bikes and produce a perfect artefact illustrating the dramatic growth of the gangs in the last few years.
  
  It would be interesting if the Police targeted these for proof of ownership, roadworthiness and sound emission, but… yeah/nahh. Ain’t gonna happen.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:55am
  - artemisia
    
    Mate used to sell Harleys. Mostly new. Common for buyers to rock up with a case of $20 notes.
    
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    April 17, 2022 4:54pm
- coge
  
  Were they vaccinated?
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:34pm
- MCōs
  
  You can grizzle and grump all you like about loud vehicles, but over the years past, present and future nobody dares complain about lawn mowers, weed eaters, hedge trimmers, that blight our suburbs.
  To add to that is the police helicopter making a racket in the middle of the night.
  Who do the police actually apprehend?
  Maybe someone sabotaging a rowdy blunt power saw?
  
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  April 17, 2022 3:03pm
  - Sean OConnor
    
    People only use those tools when they need to, only during daytime, and muffling them isn’t practical.
    
    Teenagers with ludicrously loud cars, deliberately altered to make them noisier, that drive around suburbs waking up children at night are not equivalent.
    
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    April 17, 2022 7:20pm
Yvette

Random question –
well, not so random really …
Be it “co-government” existed, would that be a 50 / 50 balance?
So what would tip that one was or the other to give a majority vote on anything?
– or is “majority vote” out too?
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April 17, 2022 8:15am
- Loddenthinks
  
  It would be majority maori (who are mostly, ironically, mostly non-maori) because they would not only get 50% of the power due to skin colour, but also nothing to prevent a part-maori from also standing for seats and elected positions in the other 50% of the electorate.
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:20am
Master Mariner

A discussion about the the Russian Rouble ( Ruble ) on GD by fellow bloggers piqued my Interest a few days ago.

https://www.interest.co.nz/currencies/115380/sergei-guriev-argues-factors-drivibg-russian-currencys-recent-appreciation-do-not

As I believe the War in Ukraine is only a small part of the “Brinkmanship” and has been well prepared in advance.

So far as I can see Russia has sought alliances in Middle East, Read Syria, Iran, Saudi ( KSA) , etc amongst others.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/russia-in-the-middle-east-a-source-of-stability-or-a-pot-stirrer/

Allegences back in Africa.
https://africacenter.org/in-focus/russia-in-africa/
Bought Gold over the last decade.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/929824/gold-holdings-in-russia/

With the recent Gas sales in Rubles and now pegging the ruble to Gold , Russia has in one swoop set the value not only of Gas , But now Gold and possibly “Blind siding” markets,.
Whats next ? Wheat and other soft commodities ?
https://english.pravda.ru/russia/151140-ruble_gold/

With the new peg of gold to the ruble, the strengthening of the Russian currency will affect the price of gold, the expert added.

“The energy market will react too
Russia is the world’s largest natural gas exporter and the world’s third largest oil exporter. Having switched into Russian rubles in settlements for energy resources, Russia pegged the price of gas to it and then to the price of gold, due to the fixed connection with gold. In a nutshell, the Russian gas is now linked with gold through the ruble.”

I honestly believe Putin has ” Check mated ” the US/ Eur ( Western democracies ) while they think they are playing ( Chinese ) Checkers.

There is no turning back now, A rolling stone gathers no moss.

Thoughts?
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April 17, 2022 8:31am
- cjn
  
  I think that NATO too has been preparing for this show-down with Russia as they have ignored or rubbished Russian complaints about their incursions little by little into the buffer states, modernised their own weapons systems (USA particularly) and inserted trainers and their old weapons into Ukraine. Alex Christoforou this morning on Youtube from Nicosia explains the role that the Ukrainians are playing in this end-game. Poor things.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:51am
- curry4me
  
  Putin definitely isn’t a nice guy. He’s not stupid either. As for “the bullies in Brussels”, and the “dolts in DC”; who would even hire any of them to clean their toilet?
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:32pm
- Nickc2
  
  This will be very interesting. With Russia controlling the price of Gold, Oil and Gas and Chinese controlling another trading mechanism known as the digital Yuan (a digital currency currently dominated by China) and being the world’s largest importer of minerals and exporter of consumer goods, we’re in for a rough time.
  It’s pure irony that all this has happened under Joe Decrepit Biden’s watch and as a result, the US of A is not going to be too pleased going from a position of World Leader to Also Ran where the USD won’t be worth squat.
  Is this part of the Great Global Reset as advocated by the WEF?
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:36pm
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  100% correct. The sanctions have hurt the West more than they have hurt Russia, in fact they have helped Russia in the long run, and maybe even the short run.
  
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  April 17, 2022 1:20pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’m guessing the Daily Mail is off Putin’s Xmas card list after it called him a deranged despot today.
  
  Germany is under pressure to support more severe sanctions against Russian gas and oil.
  
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  April 17, 2022 3:27pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Russia is the size of Australia, from a GDP perspective. Albeit with nuclear weapons, and no opportunity to sublimate their homocidal proclivities via Rugby League.
  
  So, nuclear weapons aside, Russia simply lacks the economic heft to control markets in the way suggested.
  
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  April 17, 2022 3:47pm
  - Jack5
    
    There is debate about the relative sizes of Russian and Australian GDPs.
    
    You can compare them here, in the view of the CIA, or at least in the CIA’s World Factbook:
    
    https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/
    
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    April 17, 2022 7:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How Group-think came to dominate the ether

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-end-of-progressive-intellectual-life
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April 17, 2022 8:35am
- Master Mariner
  
  Thanks Maggy,
  This stood out for me.
  
  “Who decides what is and is not permissible for American progressives to think or discuss or support? The answer is the Ford Foundation, the Open Society Foundation, the Omidyar Network, and other donor foundations, an increasing number of which are funded by fortunes rooted in Silicon Valley. It is this donor elite, bound together by a set of common class prejudices and economic interests, on which most progressive media, think tanks, and advocacy groups depend for funding.”
  
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  April 17, 2022 8:58am
- Jack5
  
  Talking of a group-think phenomenon in the media, in Stuff, Damien Grant argues, correctly, that the internet provides diversity to news, and that:
  
  Our media landscape is a chaotic, wonderful, challenging and entertaining sector. It contains villains, heroes, the noble and the malign. It is right, and it is positive, that we remain sceptical of the news presented to us, while acknowledging the explosion of choice we now enjoy.
  
  Grant talks of newspapers of the past thus:” Those who sell news have always had an agenda, even if that is simply to sell advertising space.”
  
  No mention of the contention of the day when it comes to this country’s news media: State subsidies.
  
  Stuff describes Grant as an “an Auckland business owner, a member of the Taxpayers’ Union and a regular opinion contributor for Stuff, writing from a libertarian perspective.”
  
  As a contribution to his diversity of views, Stuff could have provided this link on Grant’s background:
  
  https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/reports-and-media/opinion/the-vexing-issue-of-damien-grants-career-ending-convictions
  
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  April 17, 2022 11:01am
Maggy Wassilieff

Whose science does our Government follow when considering Covid vaccination of children?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/how-the-cdc-abandoned-science
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April 17, 2022 8:36am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Whatever they used, parents did not buy it. Only 21 percent of New Zealand children are fully vaccinated.
  
  https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data
  
  Must make Michael Baker feel like he has an exploding 🤯 head.
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:03am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    We can but hope
    
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    April 17, 2022 9:26am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Ever wish you could send some people to Shanghai?
      
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      April 17, 2022 2:57pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        “I see and I hear and I speak no evil;
        I carry no malice within my breast;
        yet quite without wishing a man to the Devil,
        one may be permitted to hope for the best.”
        
        Piet Hein
        
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        April 17, 2022 3:33pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    And given easy transmission in schools probably most kids and their parents have had it now and so have natural immunity obviating need for any vax
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:39am
- hullkiwi
  
  Their own political science. The ultimate non-science!
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:50am
Swifty

I was sent some interesting information this week from an impeccable source.

The best estimate of the annual cost to NZ local authorities of consultation with Iwi over their (council) plans and intentions is 1% of their total annual spend.

With my understanding that total local government spending in NZ is around $14B annually, therefore the cost of Iwi consultation is $140M annually, or $1B every seven years.

That’s just for local government and just for consultation – no actual goods or services provided.

I wonder what proportion of that ends up in Iwi hands through fees, charges etc by them in return for ‘being consulted’?

And then what happens to it once in Iwi hands?

Nice little earner.
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April 17, 2022 8:45am
- Gravelroad
  
  @Swifty-
  Added to which there are no local body rates payable to Councils from Iwi owned land which might offset the costs of these consultations.
  Maori land is not rateable.
  
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  April 17, 2022 11:11am
Maggie Pie

EASTER SUNDAY…the most wonderful day on the Christian Calendar.

Thinking of something my gran used to say…
“You hear of a life, you read of a death”

And a big-ups to the ‘Boys in Blue’ based in New Plymouth.
Out there keeping law-abiding New Zealanders safe in their homes.
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April 17, 2022 9:48am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Nah, someone nicked the body, Maggie. Prob the rellies from up north.
  
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  April 17, 2022 2:02pm
  - Sean OConnor
    
    Weird that the disciples who were in on the fraud went to grisly deaths for the sake of the faith.
    
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    April 17, 2022 7:23pm
Pavel

I feel sorry for this woman. She’s gone down the rabbit hole of disinformation. So much fear over nothing. I only hope there are not too many people out there living like this. If this is a reflection of anything then we have a massive mental health crisis coming our way.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/education/300567172/schooling-in-the-age-of-omicron-maxi-vaxx-parents-fears-for-children-as-mask-mandates-are-removed
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April 17, 2022 9:49am
- rouppe
  
  The photo made me laugh.
  
  Child in background, wearing a mask, looking miserable.
  
  Parent in the foreground, closer to the photographer, looking holier than thou, NOT wearing a mask.
  
  I think I see where the problem lies…
  
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  April 17, 2022 5:15pm
Swifty

BLM founder says financial accountability and reporting is unsafe, oppressive and harmful….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l6VN1beb6c
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April 17, 2022 9:53am
- curry4me
  
  Oh dear. Maybe a nice little earner is going to end prematurely. What a shame. /sarc
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:34pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Denis Prager predicted today’s nonsense in 2019.
Some fun with Bill Maher.
https://rumble.com/v10439x-dennis-prager-predicted-all-this-in-2019-and-was-mocked-for-it.html?
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April 17, 2022 9:58am
Benedict Yu

Had a close up encounter this morning with the Chistchurch criminal class.

My partner’s son works the night shift at a large retailer in Christchurch. Finishes work at midnight. Comes out to find every window smashed including the windscreen. All tyres slashed. Ignition ripped out.

It is a 15 year old car. It will probably get written off by the insurer.

The police gave him a report number but said they don’t investigate car break ins. Too many. ☹️
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April 17, 2022 10:15am
- kowtow
  
  And why’s there too many .
  
  Cos they don’t investigate .
  
  And when they do and the shits go to court ( if they do ), catch and release .
  
  And the spiral gets worse and worse and then you get breakdown.
  
  This is not the New Zealand way or maybe it is , the new normal ?
  
  ps would they investigate if same was done to a Plod Mobile or an MP’s or city councillors’ car , damn right they would and the Media Pardy would get all teary eyed over it .
  
  Looks like there’s one law for the Elites but not for the Plebs .
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:25am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is very disheartening. Her son is not on a high income but he works hard and is ambitious. He saved to buy his first car. Now it is destroyed by unemployed meth addicts.
    
    Christchurch property car break ins are escalating because they know the chances of getting caught are close to zero. And that just needs to more crime. New York discovered this in the 1980s.
    
    These criminals in Christchurch need to be taken off the streets.
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:31am
- mawm
  
  That can hardly be described as a “car break-in”. It’s more like extreme criminal damage to property.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:32am
- PeeJay
  
  Been like this for years unfortunately. I had a car broken into around 10 or so years ago and it was exactly the same thing – no interest. Blue or red, nothing really changes – the blue team talks tougher and manages things marginally better, but they both talk more than they do unfortunately.
  
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  April 17, 2022 11:01am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Doesn’t sound like a break-in, Benedict.
  
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  April 17, 2022 3:49pm
Lee C

How to implement a New World Order:

https://www.facebook.com/phil.beuning/videos/684042419592638

Coming to a Mall near you soon.
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April 17, 2022 10:20am
Maggie Pie

Anyone seen where the Prime Minister has even acknowledged Easter?

Jesus died for your sins too, Jacinda.
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April 17, 2022 10:26am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Shes a Heathen only believes in command and control of the plebs.
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:33am
  - Lee C
    
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    April 17, 2022 10:50am
  - Cassandra
    
    I’m not sure that’s right. I suspect that she’s a closet Mormon. Bad look to be one but apples, trees etc. Her partner (I assume still) OTOH is not.
    
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    April 17, 2022 10:57am
    - Sean OConnor
      
      No, she abandoned her Mormonism. She’s been open about it. On religion, she is what she appears to be, a secular socialist.
      
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      April 17, 2022 7:25pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    She was brought up in the Mormon faith.
    Is that heathen?
    
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    April 17, 2022 11:12am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Heathen adjacent. MAgic undies etc. https://www.southparkstudios.com/video-clips/enc33g/south-park-joseph-smith-part-1
      
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      April 17, 2022 11:44am
    - Paulus
      
      She was brought up for 25 years as a Mormon.
      
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      April 17, 2022 1:05pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Not sure it’s Christian.
      
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      April 17, 2022 3:51pm
- graham
  
  The media aren’t exactly overdoing it either. There are a couple of brief stories about how churches will be able to celebrate Easter with larger gatherings, and what Pope Francis is doing for Easter. Most of the so-called “Easter” stories are about what TV shows to watch, where did the Easter bunny come from, which are the best chocolate eggs … all rather depressing.
  
  I suspect this will be in marked contrast to the wall-to-wall coverage around Matariki …
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:48am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Do we think she should also acknowledge Diwali, Chinese New Year, Eidh, Matariki etc? What about the Eastern Orthodox Easter next weekend?
  
  We have here been highly critical of attempts by the Government to favour certain groups over others. As Prime Minister of all New Zealand, Ardern ought either to acknowledge all cultural and religious festivals equally – or none of them. So which is it?
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:00pm
  - Sean OConnor
    
    Why would you acknowledge something celebrated by 10 – 40% of the country equally to events celebrated by a fraction of the population?
    
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    April 17, 2022 7:27pm
- MCōs
  
  A couple of years ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/world/australia/jacinda-ardern-easter-bunny-essential-worker-tooth-fairy.html
  
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  April 17, 2022 3:39pm
  - graham
    
    Really, MCōs? You consider that issuing a pithy little statement referring to the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny is “acknowledging Easter”?
    
    I honestly don’t know what to say. Just on the off-chance that you’re not deliberately trying to be incredibly offensive to all Christians everywhere, let me help you work out what Easter is actually about:
    
    Easter, also called Pascha (Aramaic, Greek, Latin) or Resurrection Sunday, is a Christian festival and cultural holiday commemorating the resurrection of Jesus from the dead, described in the New Testament as having occurred on the third day of his burial following his crucifixion by the Romans at Calvary c. 30 AD.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
    
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    April 17, 2022 4:43pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Off getting married?
  
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  April 17, 2022 3:51pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  Well it appears the Prime Minister’s religious generosity only extends to Islam. But who knew.
  
  I’ve also yet to hear her wish my people chag sameach (happy holiday) or chag Pesach sameach ( happy Passover holiday) of which we are currently celebrating.
  
  This year Passover is celebrated for the eight days of 15-23 April.
  
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  April 18, 2022 7:57am
oldfella

The weekly US political cartoon roundup from Power Line. Some funny stuff, as always.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/04/the-week-in-pictures-pooped-president-edition.php
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April 17, 2022 10:47am
Maggie Pie

You’d never see this at New World Remuera!

Countdown Mt Roskill….maybe ??

https://twitter.com/Antman0528/status/1515287089260150784
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April 17, 2022 11:01am
- skyblue
  
  Shopping at the five finger discounter.
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:27pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, good windup acting though.
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:28pm
Benedict Yu

You got to laugh at how this journalist refers to carbon dioxide as “pollution”. 😳🤡🤡

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/128338351/climateheating-emissions-are-already-in-reach-of-the-governments-proposed-targets-for-the-next-four-years-how
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April 17, 2022 11:37am
- krazykiwi
  
  Yes, carbon dioxide is, quite literally, the stuff that civilisation is built on: it is what rock is made off.
  
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  April 17, 2022 12:48pm
plc

“I’m so glad that Jurgen is a Red
I’m so glad, he delivered what he said
Jurgen told me things, you know, We’d win the Premier League, you know. He said so.
I’m in love with him and I feel fine!”
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April 17, 2022 11:41am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFNHhHfcGeo
Justin Trudeau Bans Right Wing News Channels .

You need to be “licensed” to ask Justin Castro a question.
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April 17, 2022 12:24pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYTKsjFbcPk
Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain, Episode 22 “The Campaign Easter Special”.

This time the pollies are off on an Easter egg hunt. Some hit the campaign trail though.
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April 17, 2022 12:24pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Elon explains why he’s trying to buy twitter:
https://youtu.be/iO0bVep4D5o?t=706
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April 17, 2022 12:36pm
Alan Wilkinson

Damian Grant thinks falling trust in MSM is healthy because NZers are getting more sceptical. I don’t buy that. I think the MSM has lost the non-woke portion of its educated/skilled audience and has tried to replace it with airhead entertainment. Airhead allegiance is fragile, based on likes, not trust.
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April 17, 2022 1:23pm
Maggie Pie

LUKE 24:6-7 “He is not here, he has risen”

More proof that lockdowns do not work.
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April 17, 2022 2:31pm
Jack5

A problem for Israel, which gets support from many Protestant groups in America …

Radical Jews are giving Christians a hard time in Jerusalem, reports the Telegraph.

“At the far end of the Armenian Quarter, on Mount Zion, Father Nikodemus Schnabel works as a monk in the Benedictine Abbey of the Dormition. He told The Telegraph how more settlers had moved into derelict buildings around the order’s properties, bringing with them vandalism, littering, abuse and the throwing of projectiles.

“They destroy the tyres of our cars, graffiti ‘death to Christians’, break windows, they desecrate our cemetery, you know… ugly things, and it’s really invasive,” he said.

A property dispute seems to be at the heart of the problem.

Under the head of the Greek Patriarchate in Jerusalem in 2004 and 2005, in which key properties across the city were sold to Ateret Cohanim, a Jewish settler group which seeks to “reclaim” land in Jerusalem for Jews.

The Patriarchate, backed by the 12 other major Christian denominations in the Holy Land, insisted that the deals were the result of corruption and blackmail.

The Telegraph reports the worry is not that Christianity’s holy sites will be lost. Rather, explained Hosam Naoum, the Palestinian Anglican Archbishop of Jerusalem, the fear is for them becoming effective museums with little or no local congregants.
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April 17, 2022 3:20pm
MCōs

Arthur Lowe died forty years ago yesterday.
https://twitter.com/mrjacklowe/status/1514963024511123459?s=21&t=MxTD_0ARwA18QV15WUCSFg
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April 17, 2022 3:29pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Cripes, that does make me feel old!
  
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  April 17, 2022 4:48pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from tennis retweets….

“Easter is an outdated white supremacist tradition which negatively affects the LGBTQI+ rangatahi in Aotearoa. We need to have a more indigenous korero”

– Greens co-leader Marama Davidson
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April 17, 2022 4:53pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  What the hell does that mean??
  
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  April 17, 2022 5:37pm
- RichardX
  
  MP, Why didn’t you link to the actual tweet like you do on other occasions?
  
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  April 17, 2022 6:20pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The profile has a photo of her wearing a g-string and bra.
    
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    April 17, 2022 7:08pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/300567759/north-korea-says-it-has-tested-new-tactical-guided-weapon
My reading of this is: China, using its proxy North Korea, is making a non-too-subtle statement to the West that the Russia/Ukraine/NATO/Rest of Western World conflict is not the only game in town.
In other words, there are two fronts involving Communist intentions and you had better not ignore the Eastern one.
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April 17, 2022 5:00pm
- greybeard
  
  OK you downtickers: tell me where I am wrong?
  
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  April 17, 2022 7:03pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Some more Joe fun from The United Spot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Q6KilnIw4
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April 17, 2022 5:38pm
Maggie Pie

‘Friends of Kaoss Price, the man shot by police in Taranaki, are paying tributes to him online’

– $tuff

(My partner thinks it’s another case of SFNS)
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- Parnell Gun Club
  
  He may well have been a member of the San Francisco Neurological Society but I think our friend Kaoss was born to hang.
  
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  April 17, 2022 9:30pm
- DimChappie
  
  SFNS? Shoot First something something?
  
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  April 17, 2022 10:32pm
- skyblue
  
  All untermenschen
  
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  April 18, 2022 2:02am
- greybeard
  
  https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/taranaki-daily-news/20211104/281539409182295
  Not sure why he was at large.
  
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