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Happy International Asexuality Day!
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April 6, 2022 8:00am
- RalphT
  
  Something I have no interest in.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:16am
- Raphael
  
  There seem to be more Wokeist celebration days than there are Catholic Feast days.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:19am
  - David Garrett
    
    He makes them up Raphael…makes him feel important
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:39am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      That’s completely wrong, and very unkind.
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:04am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        You’re right. It doesn’t make you feel important at all.
        
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        April 6, 2022 10:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If it turns you on…
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:25am
- emmess
  
  Anyone celebrating not getting laid is full of shit, in my opinion.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:36am
  - Batman
    
    I don’t know if they’re celebrating it, rather than glum acceptance that it brings them no…. joy, let’s say.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:17am
- oldfella
  
  You having two bob each way, Mike?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:09am
  - cmm
    
    Asexuality means keeping your bob in your pocket.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:05am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Well done DPF. He appeared on the excellent Bolt Report on Sky News Australia last night explaining the racist Ardern regimes agenda to turn New Zealand into the South Africa of the South Pacific.
  Bolt was visibly shocked as will be his viewers on both sides of the Tasman.
  DPF laid out how the Ardern regime had bought off the MSM on the condition they only report what the regime wants as regards race matters.
  I hope the Ardern regime continues until a vast majority of citizens realise whats happening and put the Ardern regime and its racist supporters back in the box and shut the lid permanently.
  I do not want to live in a racist country where Maori are first class citizens and everyone else is a second class citizen.
  I want to live in a country where all are treated equally both in society and by the law.
  Otherwise this country will descend into civil war.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:12am
  - Souvlaki
    
    Here it is :
    https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/andrew-bolt/proposed-nz-local-council-governance-model-would-be-defeated-if-it-went-to-a-public-vote/video/1ad36ac9013b76c2a696ed709f8263c9
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:17am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      It is a sad situation when the most reliable news about what is happening in new Zealand comes from Australia.
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:51am
      - thirteenstars
        
        Yes, it is. You might recall that during the Christchurch mosque massacre that Sky News Australia was taken off the air for a couple of days by Sky NZ because they showed images of the massacre. None of those images were graphic but were deemed to be “inappropriate”. That is, they were taken off in fear of what the NZ Censor might have judged a violation of NZ law, that “law” being not written but wholly at the interpretation of the censor.
        
        This is the shit that Kiwis regularly accept, safely closeted and made comfortably numb by.
        
        Fact is, if it wasn’t for Sky News Australia, Kiwis wouldn’t have much idea of a different opinion, and Sky News Australia only comments on NZ when it seems to be newsworthy. All power to them and I suspect they might be targets for the woke, as I know from inside sources that Fox News has been, too. There’s a powerful campaign to have Fox News taken off Sky. Don’t be surprised if one day it just disappears.
        
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        April 6, 2022 9:50pm
    - Tricati
      
      Should be sent to Race Relations & Human Rights Commissioners and ask for their comment – Especially as getting international coverage. Can you just image the BS answers you would get.
      
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      April 6, 2022 12:03pm
  - Cassandra
    
    Pity David Farrar can’t persuade Luxon to say the same thing. He hints at it but you can’t pin him down. One the one hand……. But then………. “We should have a discussion about that”
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:37am
  - Cassandra
    
    The emphasis on the Rotorua council was disappointing – this issue goes way, way beyond that. The Labour Party is appallingly racist.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:47am
  - I remember when
    
    How much will Climate Change affect where we live: TV3 Late News:
    “If we can reduce emissions it will be game over.”
    
    Except, if doing that doesn’t result in lower temperatures there will be no change.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:55am
  - Jim
    
    Potentially, but certainly preceded by an economic and social destruction as businesses leave apartheid NZ, and failing public services skilled migrants (think health care and education etc) choose not to live (and bring their children up) in a country that considers them a second class citizen.
    In essence this law change would render NZ an apartheid regime rather than a free and fair democracy by any Western standards.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:04am
  - Scott
    
    Yes I agree, well done DPF for standing against the divisive racial agenda that the left is pushing.
    A great analysis!
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:04am
  - cmm
    
    The sad thing is that, like with South Africa, everyone ends up losing.
    
    No race won from apartheid in South Africa and no race is winning there from the racist Black Economic Empowerment that has replaced it there.
    
    Yes, there were a few individual “winners” eg. illiterate “poor whites” who got jobs through job reservation, and corrupt individuals making a bundle out of BEE, but no group is really winning and instead everyone is losing.
    
    Same deal here. If anyone thinks that Maori will win from Maorification then they are fools. A few corrupt fat cats will score out of the deal and everyone else will lose.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:10am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      CMM not even the fat cats win in reality as they live in an impoverished society both financially and morally. These people always imagine that their ill gotten gains will be enjoyed in the society as it was before they raped it but of course it isn’t like that. They usually don’t work it out until they’re having to employ security for the residence and bodyguards to go shopping.
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:20am
      - cmm
        
        To some extent I agree. However most of these people do not live in “society”. They live in bubbles of extreme wealth.
        
        Many of them end up with their wealth overseas or such huge amounts that it does not matter.
        
        Robert Mugabe might have lived in Zimbabwe most of the time (when he did is was in a luxurious house, with all mod cons and a massive generator – food flown in from overseas). He had a jet on loan from UAE and he and his family would fly to Dubai or Europe for shopping or medicals needs.
        
        South Africa’s massively corrupt Ramaphosa has multi-million-dollar properties all over South Africa and, through his family connections, has squirrelled away massive amounts offshore.
        
        When you’re coining it like these buggers are then local conditions mean nothing.
        
        Yes, the apartheid era politicians were also a corrupt bunch, but these lot take it to the extreme.
        
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        April 6, 2022 12:50pm
    - Swifty
      
      “Same deal here. If anyone thinks that Maori will win from Maorification then they are fools. A few corrupt fat cats will score out of the deal and everyone else will lose….”
      
      Yes, that’s my honest belief, and one that is supported by the US experience where they have been at this malarkey since the 70s and have extensive data showing exactly this.
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:57am
- alloytoo
  
  Forgive me if I fail to observe.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:14am
- Harry Knuts
  
  there is a day for everyone and everything! 🙂
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:00am
- Bloody Dago
  
  Bloomers Gone!
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:53am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Enjoy 😝
  
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  April 6, 2022 5:48pm
Mr_Blobby

The question today.

Masks, in particular how do we unmask this opaque government?
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April 6, 2022 8:00am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  #atvotetheleftout
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:17am
- pdm
  
  Blobby – ask Peeni Henare and Helen White.
  
  They both seem to be doing their best from the inside.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:23am
- Frank the tank
  
  Ignore them into irrelevance
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:18am
Souvlaki

An interesting transition from recidivist bon vivant to Trappist Monk….what gives ?
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/cartoon-of-the-day-99
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April 6, 2022 8:00am
- oldfella
  
  Oh, to have someone with Tremain’s talent in today’s MSM. Sharp, funny, and very non-woke.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:11am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Mods? Aren’t we supposed to leave families out?
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:17am
Gravelroad

On the TV one “news” last evening there appeared a guy called Michael Wood, who is apparently a cabinet minister.
Had never seen him before. What’s his claim to fame?
He looks like someone out of that old TV programme “Are You Being Served?” (menswear) complete with the 1950’s hair do.
Also, thanks are due to Simon Dallow for so diligently reading out the media release from the Labour Party re the Fair Pay Agreemsnet law, which he assured us is going to be great for everyone.
Maybe it is – don’t know- but some context and independent analysis would have been appreciated.
But that seems to be the control the Labour Party has over the media now – just say what we say boys and girls.
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April 6, 2022 8:03am
- Hebe123
  
  You mean Michael “River of Filth” Woods?
  Yeah best he stay anonymous.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:04am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    He chose his words carefully.
    
    It is now on record and will follow him for the rest of his career.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:54am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Came to Parliament via the Finsec union; ’nuff said…
  
  https://www.beehive.govt.nz/minister/biography/michael-wood
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:10am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Is Finsec better or worse than other unions in your opinion, Tony?
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:16am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Who knows Mike – but certainly allow Mr Wood HEAPS of time to be a party political organiser in Mt Roskill didn’t it.
      
      And that is hardly working hard for the union members of Finsec in the Banking and Insurance sectors….
      
      No one would care about Unions Mike, but they spend their members money on Labour Party activities – which as a former Finsec member myself I heartly disapprove of…
      
      Every Union member should have a secret ballot available to authorise funds going from any Union to funding Labour Party activities (directly funding or the more insidious Union Reps on full pay going missing on Union members at Election time and running around campaigning for Labour).
      
      If Union staff want to campaign for Labour they should do it on leave with out pay…
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:05am
- G152
  
  So you’ve observed the pretty boy {Cant possibly do harm} in a TV something lying for labour.
  And shallow Dallow. Give him a quid and a script and let him go.
  Plenty of time for such after retirement to admit that it was all an act
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:11am
  - Paulus
    
    Considered behind the Wellington Parliamentary schemes as the Union’s favourite to suceed Ardern – sooner than later, as she will go soon.
    Loves the publicity he is getting as well, as it shows in his arrogance.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:38am
- Tricati
  
  He’s fighting Megan Woods for the most obnoxious/nasty MP within Labour. A very unlikable person.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:15am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He and Robertson have that packaged up, MW is just thick, she is still mummy you know
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:36am
  - cmm
    
    How does this work? Winner takes on Mallard?
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:12am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Can’t see the trees for the Woods
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:23pm
- Maxx
  
  Simon knows where his bread is buttered – the party will always look after its propagandist elites.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:18am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Spot on there Gravel !
  
  Michael worked at Hugh-Wright-Menswear for a number of years.
  
  Probably had a preference for customers who hung to the left 😀
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:20am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And he used to be a Christmas tree salesman.
    He is one of the most obnoxious Ministers in a Cabinet with plenty of competition .
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:24am
    - Maxx
      
      Christmas Trees and Fish n Chips- the bar of what people want in their MPs is pretty low
      
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      April 6, 2022 8:30am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Yes, representative is often in the sense of reflection of their electorate as opposed to advocate for their electorate.
        
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        April 6, 2022 10:11am
    - MCōs
      
      If you think he’s obnoxious he can’t be all bad.
      
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      April 6, 2022 8:51am
      - Stellaboxer
        
        MCos no you’re correct he can’t be all bad I heard he made a donation to the poppy collection one year when enough people were watching.
        
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        April 6, 2022 11:02am
  - krazykiwi
    
    He’s gone from selling ties, to selling lies.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:30am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Wood is a rotten unionist, he also was an abuse nasty fool in his by-election, the last thing we need is unions blowing crap in this country, rather weird we have a rotten unionist forcing unions soon us from the highest place in this country, another thing, they reckon this jumped up little swine will be Labours next leader
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:21am
- pdm
  
  `What’s his claim to fame?’
  
  Tried to ban penis shaped lollies a few years ago.
  
  Top notch credentials among the current Labour Cabinet and Caucus.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:26am
  - chukar
    
    Source of the infamous “river of Filth “ comment.
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    And don’t forget his vile display of anger snd hate on the by-elect that foisted this creep upon us
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:38am
- MCōs
  
  He would have had more appeal around here if he’d been in ‘Dad’s Army’, do you think?
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:54am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    No, I won’t have the prick on my team.
    The Captain
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:15am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Oh, I don’t know, Cpt-
      Mr Wood looks a bit like that boy Frank (Private Pike). The one whose mum was always chasing him round to make sure he was wearing his woolly scarf and kidding him that she wasn’t sleeping with Sgt Wilson.
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:35am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        He reminds me of Goma Pile,
        
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        April 6, 2022 9:39am
      - Stellaboxer
        
        I think the East German minister look that he has adopted came about via Chairman Dan of Victoria it’s all the thing now with wanna be left wing authoritarians.
        
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        April 6, 2022 11:07am
  - GJM
    
    They don’t like it up’ em” they say. Except maybe Robbie, and the mad Mexican, and…
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:14am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Simon Swallows wears a proud grin when he talks about Labour gummit announcements. He may as well read the news with a sticker on his forehead which says – “I am a proud Labour poodle”.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:13am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    A lot of people were surprised when Ali Mau left him.
    
    He’s such a pussie 😛
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:14am
    - Manu-Rau
      
      Alison Mau left him for someone more masculine.
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:04am
      - wisteria
        
        I understood she left him for a female.
        
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        April 6, 2022 11:28am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        @wisteria, pretty sure that was MP and MR’s point.
        
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        April 6, 2022 4:06pm
      - Manu-Rau
        
        That was PRECISELY my point.
        
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        April 7, 2022 3:06am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    You would think that TV “news” in New Zealand would just die out as the folk that watch it die. It is just vile. Let’s just take something simple like the weather. The format of 5 minutes weather at the end of the programme has not changed since the 1960s. Except all the place names are in Maori.
    
    If I want to know the weather forecast I grab my phone. Why the hell would I watch all that crap to find out if it is going to rain in Christchurch?
    
    There would be a big market in New Zealand for a “news” programme that simply presented some interesting international news, along with some domestic political and business and economic news. No pidgin English. No clown presenters. No propaganda and no bloody weather forecasts.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:38am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Benedict if they did the things you suggest they wouldn’t have anyone to model the ridiculous clothes
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:32am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Au contraire. The TV weather was so much more dignified in the Sixties than it is now.
      
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      April 6, 2022 8:28pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Left over ventriloquist doll. Sits well on poor man’s Gordon Brown’s lap
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:19am
- John Pakes
  
  Never heard of Michael Woods Gravel? He is ranked about number 4 in your Government and you have no knowledge of him!
  I think that I understand though. You devour fake news social sites and ignore the paid for MSM, as you put it.
  Time for you to lift your head out of your hole and have a good look around methinks.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:35am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Helps if you spell his surname correctly.
    
    Does Michael Woods hang out with Mike Hoskings, Chris Luxton and John Keys?
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:48am
    - Swifty
      
      Hahahaha
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:56am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @John Pakes:
    As the result of a lengthy career as a journalist, newspaper reporter and magazine columnist (now semi retired) I think I have a fair idea of how the msm works – or at least, how it used to work.
    Nice try though.
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:49pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Wrong M Wood(s)
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:28pm
Tony Stuart

Jenna Lynch from Newshub obviously hasn’t cosied up (journalistically, of course) to Speaker Trevor Mallard yet like her predecessor. She’s published this, and it’s not flattering for Mr Sprinkler:

Newshub can also reveal how long the protestors endured the Speaker’s sprinkler spree: 19 hours in the middle of a deluge.
He denies he added to the cleanup bill.
“None at all,” Mallard said, when asked how much he contributed to the mess by keeping the sprinklers on.
“There was no extra damage. The lawn was completely stuffed.”
ACT leader David Seymour disagrees.
“This is largely the cost of Trevor Mallard’s immaturity. There was a chance for a mature deescalation; he created an immature escalation,” Seymour told Newshub.
Mallard reacted: “I’m not going to respond to Mr Seymour at all, don’t care what he said.”
Yet to be added to the tally is the cost of securing Parliament grounds in the future. The Speaker wants to build a wall or a fence.
Newshub got a sneak peek of the first design – a fence as high as the cast-iron gates.
The parliament has purchased temporary fencing in the meantime. It’s too expensive to keep hiring.
“We want to have it immediately available if the protestors come back,” Mallard said.
On top of all those repairs, a smaller bill came in: $2750.39 was spent hiring loudspeakers used to broadcast both trespass notices as requested by police and Mallard’s punishing playlist.
Mallard admitted in written parliamentary questions he did not receive any official advice before doing this.
“That’s something which is being looked into by other people and not something I’m about to discuss,” Mallard told Newshub.
“It’s something for the IPCA [Independent Police Conduct Authority, which is carrying out an investigation] and the courts to work out.”
Newshub understands the only reason the music was stopped after hours on loop was because police were complaining of headaches.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/04/parliament-protest-damage-could-top-1-million-lawn-infested-with-rats-and-faeces.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

We’re probably never going to hear of an adverse finding against Trevor Mallard, and it’s certainly unlikely to happen before next year’s General Election. But the revelation that he ran Parliament’s sprinklers non-stop for 19 hours, at a time when the use of sprinklers in Wellington was severely restricted due to water shortages is an indictment on the quality of his judgment.

And if the noise from the Speaker’s speakers, hired in what looks like dodgy circumstances, was so loud and repetitive that it was causing Police to experience headaches. why wasn’t Mallard arrested and charged with a public nuisance offence? He truly is the worst Speaker in my memory.

PS: Rest in Peace Sir Robin Gray, Speaker from 1990 to 1993, and always a gentleman. How the role of Speaker has been debased since late 2017…
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April 6, 2022 8:08am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I always felt a bit sorry for Robin Gray, unceremoniously dumped from the role by Bolger to he could prop up the government by tempting Peter Tapsell with the speaker’s baubles.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:14am
- Maxx
  
  Sorry Tony, you must have missed the article recently where Trev announced how proud he was to have cleaned up parliaments bullying problems.
  
  I’m sure if he just left that would clear up 90% of what still remains…
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:26am
- pdm
  
  The Despicable Mallard wasting Taxpayers money like no other Speaker before him ever has!!
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:30am
- bono vilfredo
  
  [deleted by Mod – leave families out]
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:36am
- Local Miller
  
  Should the Duck’s new title be: Sprinkler of the House?
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:37am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Or perhaps Mallard’s title should read:
    The Speaker of the House who purposely used internationally recognised torture techniques on citizens of a small South Pacific nation who were exercising their right to protest.
    What a power-crazed shameful person he is – but he got a thrill out if it, I suppose.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:00am
  - pdm
    
    Rumour has it that he has already done a fair bit of that.
    
    Wild oats and all that.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:01am
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, this Govt (which includes Mallard) has destroyed any faith freedom-loving law-abiding self-sufficient people of NZ may have had in Govts current and of the future should this mob be re-elected.
  Wake up NZ, what you are witnessing is democracy being replaced by Socialism which will morph into Communism.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Trouble with Socialism is you can vote it in, but you have to fight your way out.
    A simple bit of History research of previous Socialaist Countries will explain it
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:19am
- Stellaboxer
  
  Mallard still holding office sums up this government in its entirety. In my opinion corrupt, incompetent, immature, dishonest, unaccountable, undemocratic , arrogant, secretive and vain. I may have left something out but I’m sure you get my drift.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:51am
- graham
  
  Compare that to this sycophantic article published a few days ago, which portrays Trevor Mallard as a knight in shining armour, seeking to uphold the highest of standards and protect the weak and vulnerable.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/parliament-workplace-bullying-culture-review-mps-the-staff-you-cant-fire/6XHPXYTF6K527LDY3FIUABN26A/
  
  As you read the article, Mr Mallard is portrayed as a no-nonsense speaker who simply won’t put up with bad behaviour. There’s been far too much of it in the past, and he’s the man to put a stop to it, Parliament’s very own moral crusader.
  
  “Too often in the past, things have been just swept under the carpet. Very bad behaviour, very, very bad behaviour” says Trevor Mallard (talking I think about both MPs and Parliamentary staff generally).
  
  Yes, Trevor, I can certainly think of some very bad behaviour quite recently which has just been swept under the carpet.
  
  All of this has two aims, Mallard says.
  
  “First of all we don’t want that behaviour to happen… we’re trying to influence behaviour. But also to make clear that there are consequences, and for very serious breaches – transparency.”
  
  In the interests of transparency, I’d love to know if he was able to keep a straight face while feeding this BS to the reporter who obviously just lapped it up.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:00am
  - Swifty
    
    Sickening.
    
    His own reputation as a bully has been around for decades.
    
    How he kept his job after losing his rag and physically attacking another MP on Parliament’s grounds still baffles me.
    
    Any other person in any other job in New Zealand would be gone by lunchtime for serious misconduct.
    
    But Mallard? Labour closed ranks and not only protected him but then reselected him for his seat and in doing so sent the message that bullying and violence is alright by them when it’s one of them doing it.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:18am
- mogg
  
  The fence is a good idea, it can represent the gulf between this government and the people of NZ.
  This Labour govt have reached the point where they belong behind a fence, and Mallard certainly does.
  Luxon should promise to dismantle Labours fence
  and reunite NZ in the process.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:28am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    What! You’re asking Luxon to do some thinking and score a goal! No mate he still backof the field in defence worrying about any possibility of attack.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:38am
- crikey
  
  Am I right in presuming Mallard (Parliament) has paid the royalties due for the public broadcast of the music during the protest?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:32am
- ecco
  
  On the whole Lynch is a sycophant of Ardern’s in the same mould as Tova. You won’t hear any major criticism of Ardern coming out of Lynch’s mouth.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:44am
- Hollyfield
  
  I’m waiting for someone to do a video of Trevor Mallard with a voiceover of Donald Trump saying “I’m going to build a wall”.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:36pm
Tricati

Having down-sized the NZ Defence force during the Helen Clark era, our military has become in essence, the Red Cross for the Pacific Islands.
Following on from her mentor Clark, Ardern has shown distain towards the military (no NZDF personnel at ANZC Parades) and the lack of courage to send nearly time-expired missiles to Ukraine where they could make a humanitarian difference. Ardern’s supposed sanctions are an absolute joke and will make zero difference – The missiles will.
I thought Michael Wood’s smart-arse comment toward National during the debate over the Fair Pay Agreements last night, with reference to Russian Communism, was a crass given the horrific events in Ukraine, but in line with him describing New Zealanders opposed to his views as a ‘river of filth’. It does seem the entrenched Unionist dogma, with its roots embedded in communism, is alive and well within the Labour Party.
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April 6, 2022 8:12am
- cjn
  
  The mind boggles. “Time-expired missiles could make a humanitarian difference.” Missiles kill.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:55am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Yes they do in this case murderous invading criminals. I guess it’s more humane to send blankets and wring your hands.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:42am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That’s a unionist scum for you
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:42am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Readers may be interested in a guest post we recently had over at No Minister on this matter:
  
  The Replacement of the RNZN Anzac Frigates.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:34am
Master Mariner

What’s interesting to me regarding transporting of ( Used) EV’s is the time to Redesign and Build specialised vessels for their Safe Carriage / Transport.

Until this happens , I am sure either the costs of carriage ( By Sea) will far exceed any benefits ( Subsidies).

https://splash247.com/lessons-learned-from-the-felicity-ace-disaster/

https://splash247.com/car-carrier-firms-start-to-turn-away-used-evs-in-wake-of-spate-of-serious-fires/

To be perfectly Honest, I am surprised it has taken this long before a Disaster of this Scale ( Shipping) from happening.

As stated before, I am a big fan of EV technology, But do not agree with all “Green credentials” and being portrayed as a “Silver Bullet”.

Out of curiosity, I wonder how long before Insurance on Houses will change when you have a Solar Battery attached to the side?
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April 6, 2022 8:12am
- Nickc2
  
  I wonder how long before Insurance on Houses will change when you have a Solar Battery attached to the side
  ….or an EV charging in your house incorporated garage.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:56am
  - alloytoo
    
    Vehicles on display in shopping malls and trade shows. (Never mind the shopping mall parking lots)
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:26am
    - Nickc2
      
      An extremely good point.
      Who’s going to be the first Shopping Centre/Parking Complex to display a sign indicating ‘No EVs permitted due to Fire Hazzards’?
      I can just imagine all the Insurance Companies penning bail-out exclusion clauses to existing policies as I write this.
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:32am
  - curry4me
    
    Yes, a mobile virtue signal that catches fire at inconvenient moments might quickly become a liability. I wonder what the wokerati will think of the first insurance company that raises the price for covering coal powered cars? Will there be a Twit-ter storm?
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:31pm
- marcw
  
  BRANZ have published a report on lithium batteries in New Zealand compiled by Fire and Emergency NZ (FENZ) in January 2020.
  
  https://www.fireandemergency.nz/assets/Documents/Files/Report_174_Lithium_Batteries_Whats_the_problem.pdf
  
  It is a very comprehensive report, and section 6.1 deals with large scale energy storage systems (residential, commercial, network). Although NZ incident figures are incomplete (only up to the first quarter of 2019) the trend is increasing at a significant rate.
  
  Section 10 deals with NZ Building Code provisions, and they are woefully inadequate.
  
  “It is recommended that the installation of LI battery ESS or EV charging station should require a building consent to ensure the installation meets
  the requirements of NZBC clause G9.
  Further work is required to provide guidance on how to prevent spread of fire in the event of an ESS thermal run-away failure scenario.
  Further work is required to provide guidance on prevention of spread of fire from garages as a result of EV or charger faults.“.
  
  I recommend bookmarking this report as a future reference since thermal runaway events are certainly going to feature more frequently. Without more stringent regulation, as it stands now I would be very unhappy should a neighbour strap one of the faddish ‘recycled’ car batteries on their house wall facing my property.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:48am
Maggie Pie

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April 6, 2022 8:14am
- Maggie Pie
  
  MOD…so wot does one need to do to get deleted?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:36am
  - Batman
    
    If you want us to delete something, edit it to leave a single ‘.’ by itself and we will know to trash it 🙂
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:20am
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      April 6, 2022 11:26am
Rusty

So according to our PM/govt the biggest fear facing Nzers in the next 20-30 years is not covid, housing, poverty, debt, etc, but global warming/climate change!

Everything else are short term problems that we can live and deal with but the climate getting too hot demands drastic action.

What a con job! Whats wrong with the climate getting a bit hotter anyway — its good for crop growing and outdoor lifestyles — that cant be bad.
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April 6, 2022 8:16am
- pdm
  
  ` ……….the biggest fear facing Nzers in the next 20-30 years………………’
  
  Rusty – I thought it was re-election of an `Ardernidy’ government in 2023.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:04am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That’s why we have to stop talking shit about pissing around with voting, it’s Lab/greens, or Nats /Act, any other talk delivers Lab/green
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:45am
- alloytoo
  
  It’s been colder, it’s been hotter.
  
  Humans adapt, wealthy humans adapt better.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:27am
- Ian Boag
  
  If you look at the history of “a bit hotter and a bit colder” you find that the climate has often changed in dramatic fashion over a relatively short time rather than gradually. Currently we are engaged in a large scale experiment where in the last 150 years we have put something like 200 billion tons of extra CO2 into the atmosphere.
  
  There seems to be a general consensus that the climate is warming. Some folk think the rise in CO2 has nothing to do with it. I guess it comes down to “how lucky do you feel” and will your children be OK?
  
  Potential consequences?
  
  For example, melting of arctic permafrost will probably cause the release of huge amounts of methane (a megafart) which will make things warmer which will cause more melting …. you get the idea.
  
  As CO2 levels rise, much of it will be taken up by the oceans. This will make them slighty more acidic which will affect shell growth for the southern ocean plankton that underpin the ocean food chain. Not to mention corals ….
  
  There is evidence that El Ninos are becoming more intense and more frequent.
  
  Not wishing to be alarmist.
  
  FWIW I like Fred Pearce who has an even-handed overview of this stuff and related matters like rivers that are running dry, cleanup of plutonium processing plants and other disturbing sort of stuff.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:00am
  - Don Beckett
    
    “For example, melting of arctic permafrost will probably cause the release of huge amounts of methane (a megafart) which will make things warmer which will cause more melting …. you get the idea.”
    I call bullshit on that. Over the past few years, the Northern Hemisphere has had the coldest winters since the 19th. century. Arctic sea ice for the past 2 or 3 years have grown more than the previous 20 year average.
    Be careful who you get your “facts” from.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:54am
    - Ian Boag
      
      I call bullshit on that
      
      Call away. There are lots of links about Arctic permafrost melting eg https://www.npr.org/2022/01/22/1075108299/why-russias-thawing-permafrost-is-a-global-problem
      
      It would be good if you could point us at some links that say different. I see there are KBers who want to believe you (uptickers) so this would be for them too.
      
      Arctic sea ice for the past 2 or 3 years have grown more than the previous 20 year average.
      
      Blowed if I could find that one …. ? Can you help?
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:18am
    - alloytoo
      
      What’s interesting is what they’re finding in the permafrost that indicates previously warmer climes.
      
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      April 6, 2022 12:49pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Can you point us at that one too?
        
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        April 6, 2022 2:49pm
      - alloytoo
        
        Try duck duck go if google is failing you.
        
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        April 6, 2022 5:32pm
  - alloytoo
    
    I like Bjorn Lomborg who’s actually done the economic modelling.
    
    It’s significantly cheaper to do nothing than to pursue “Carbon Zero”, especially as “Carbon Zero” will fail dismally (as do all socialist schemes).
    
    Adaptation is not only cheaper, it’s actually possible. (Especially if we divert a fraction “Carbon Zero” costs to R & D)
    
    Ultimately our ability to adapt hinges in reliable energy.
    
    With reliable energy we can moderate our immediate environments and produce food almost anywhere.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:59am
    - Ian Boag
      
      “Adapt” sounds good. In some cases it’s a bit hard to figure out how that “adaptation” might work. Novel to see a KBer endorsing a model …
      
      To pick just one example – the SW USA depends on the Colorado River. In the early bit of the 20th century it carried about 15 cubic km/year. Now in a good year it does about 8 and has been under 4. And of course the demand has gone up hugely – Vegas, Phoenix, LA ….. Irrigated agriculture.
      
      Warmer temperatures reduce the snowpack that feeds the river. El Ninos bring dry years. Right now a good chunk of California’s Imperial Valley is fallowed from a lack of water.
      
      I’m not sure how you adapt to that other by giving up on farming. Pumping groundwater will stretch things but it much of that is non-renewable.
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:29am
      - alloytoo
        
        Trying googling “Adaptation” and “Colorado” river.
        
        I think you will find some people are already working on it.
        
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        April 6, 2022 1:07pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        There were some wet years at the start of the 20th Century in the Colorado Basin.
        
        There is a long history of droughts in the SW USA
        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228982079_Medieval_Drought_in_the_Upper_Colorado_River_Basin
        
        A 1,200-year perspective of 21st century drought in southwestern North America
        https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0911197107
        
        Since 190o there have been 100s of dams constructed on tributaries of the Colorado… The main course of the river has 15 large dams.
        
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        April 6, 2022 2:33pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        @alloy
        
        I did that Google you suggested. The adaptation seemed to look like varying ways of sharing out the pain ie the water that isn’t in the river any more.
        
        Noone (that I saw) was suggesting that abundant cheap energy would solve the problem. There is a big desal plant near the Colorado mouth but (a) there have been engineering problems getting it online and (b) there’s no way it can produce enough fresh water to irrigate crops ….
        
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        April 6, 2022 3:02pm
      - alloytoo
        
        @Boagie
        
        You’ll find that humans are particularly good at adapatation. We’ve been doing for at very least 40000 years.
        
        You do appear obsessed with Colorado, so I suggest you devote your attention to adaptation in the area, since “Carbon Zero” is doomed to failure.
        
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        April 6, 2022 5:36pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        It’s so confusing that warmer seas and increased humidity is supposedly responsible for droughts and less water in rivers. It’s almost as though the weather doesn’t know what it’s doing.
        
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        April 6, 2022 7:45pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      With reliable energy we can moderate our immediate environments and produce food almost anywhere
      
      Just to pick another one. The Asian monsoon feeds about 3bn people. Cool air from the Himalayas sinks and blows out to sea. It picks up moisture – the land heats up and generates upwards air flow that sucks the cold wet stuff back over the land. Rain. Crops and all that.
      
      Not sure how “reliable energy” helps if the rains fail ….
      
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      April 6, 2022 12:54pm
      - alloytoo
        
        I’ll admit to omitting the word “abundant”
        
        With abundant reliable energy that’s merely an engineering problem.
        
        Unfortunately “Renewables” will never produce abundant energy and may even create localized climate change just as they wreck environment havoc with fauna and flora.
        
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        April 6, 2022 1:13pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Glad to see you are taking CO² seriously Ian; you’ll be avoiding food from cultivated land then, lobbying hard for soil sequestration where 10 tons of carbon per hectare can be captured per year? Not so much? Just like the others then that claim to believe.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:58am
- curry4me
  
  I think Germany deciding that nuclear and gas are “clean energy” might be a large nail in the coffin of “globull warming/climate change”.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:34pm
Warren

Finally TV One has woken up and has decided to move John Campbell off the breakfast show , so that’s two senior Hosts that have been moved on.
Second we have this from Jacinda Ardern Misogyny in Politics: we still have work to do, this from someone that obviously hates men and practices it on every Press Conference she calls with her selected questions to the females of the media , as a example Jessica Mutch McKay seems to always get the first question of the day followed by many female Journalists before a male even gets a chance to have a question.
Another example is the smear tactics used on Simon Bridges when National opposition leader,where Tova O’Brien, Jamie Lee Ross Winston Peter’s and set out to destroy him and his credibility with hate,lies and innuendo.
So in her interview with John Campbell on the One Breakfast Show Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister says that we should play the ball not the man or women and there is a reason that exists in this Country because we believe that you should be able to be critique and its not about the person.
I suggest Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister should practice what she preaches before lecturing others.
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April 6, 2022 8:21am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  You seem to have forgotten, nothing applies to her, she is supreme leader, (stampy feet so there)
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:47am
- ecco
  
  Didn’t ever watch the Breakfast show specifically because of Campbell being the host. In fact haven’t watched TV one for many years.
  
  TV3 AM show and 6 o’clock news are the more palatable of the two stations. Although the AM show is going down the drain since Garner & Richardson left.
  
  Also TV3 seems to be getting more woke by the day with it’s moko covered women presenters being added. I guess that was a requirement of getting successful funding from the covid relief bribe fund.
  
  Has anyone seen those special news reports by the Gillies woman who was on the AM show as well until recently?
  
  Just seems to be ‘begging bowl’ type themes in her reports, for ridiculous amounts of tax payer funding from government for one off cases eg drug funding that costs a fortune, mexican person refused visa for being obese and potential burden on our system etc. The theme of this woman Gillies’s reports are a total wind up job 😬 when you are just trying to watch the news. She should go join the Green Party or the Labour party…
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:58am
kevn

Richard Prebble really nails it/her/them in with his Herald offering today. Paywalled
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April 6, 2022 8:21am
- artemisia
  
  Mr Prebble says in his article –
  
  “When I made my first trip to Australia half a century ago, I was not even tempted to make Australia my future. If I was a graduate today, I would find it irresistible. It is not just the higher standard of living and the fact that renting in Sydney is no more expensive than Auckland; it is the freedom from New Zealand’s \”woke\” culture. The transtasman brain drain is about to become a torrent.”
  
  Young tradie and partner in my family looking hard at Perth. They have mates already there.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:50am
  - cmm
    
    We expect to lose 50,000 a year. Most of those will be highly capable.
    
    We expect to gain many too, chances are they are less capable.
    
    Even within the capable people that remain, most have shifted their skills overseas by working remotely or working for a foreign company. They are essentially economic emigrants that only spend their salaries and pay tax here.
    
    Anyone that can do sums can figure out what the long term impact is going to be.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:20am
  - curry4me
    
    Them, and a lot of other under 45s too, I guess. It was one plane load a week under the Klarkenfuhrer. could it go as high as 3-4 under Stalinda?
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:36pm
Raphael

Musk is now on the board of directors at Twitter (and part of the agreement is that he will not purchase more than another 5% of shares, he owns 9.2% not allowed to exceed 14.9%). There are multiple wails of anguish from the Leftists that he will bring back Free Speech to the platform.
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April 6, 2022 8:21am
- Master Mariner
  
  Interesting.
  
  “This is screen-level capitalist drama and tremendously exciting. As I’ve written before, Musk has established himself as an enemy of the state, opposing lockdowns and mandates and generally refusing to go along with the great-reset agenda. And he has the money and credibility to back it up. ”
  
  https://brownstone.org/articles/can-elon-musk-defeat-the-censors/
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:39am
- krazykiwi
  
  This has been an interesting play. In three steps…
  1. Musk berates Twitter for it’s woke/censorship behaviour.
  2. He buys in. Unsure of the mechanism, but with a 31% price jump there has to have been plenty of open market buys. The purchase is described as ‘without a controlling interest’
  3. Two days later we learn he is on the board, and with an option to acquire more.
  
  Twitter has become an angry, leftist, woke sewer. It remains to be seen if Musk’s influence can see this cleaned this up.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:40am
  - MCōs
    
    Just a minute.
    If he believes in free speech he’s not going to ‘clean it up’ by definition.
    Quite the opposite.
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:48am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      Maybe he cleans it up by removing the echo chamber by allowing non-far leftist views into the discourse?
      
      It’s ridiculous that a satirical tweet naming a Trans woman as man of the year gets you banned yet actively advocating for the deaths of TERFs (including specifically JK Rowling) sees nothing happen.
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:49am
  - All_on_Red
    
    You missed Step 1.5-Musk ponders out loud whether he should start an alternative to Twitter. Twitters Share price continues its fall.
    Then there’s Step 2.5-After Musk buys in the Share price starts to rise. He is now over $1 Billion ahead
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-04/musk-takes-9-2-stake-in-twitter-after-questioning-platform
    Hes a disrupter and there will be change at Twitter. Its going to be fun to watch.
    Trump will probably be back- lol
    
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    April 6, 2022 8:55am
    - Raphael
      
      Step 1.5-Musk ponders out loud whether he should start an alternative to Twitter.
      
      No he didn’t wonder out loud if he should start an alternative. That was what people were speculating he meant when he asked his question about whether or not it was adhering to the principles of free speech.
      From what he says Musk considers Twitter to be the public square.
      He also knows that there have been multiple Twitter competitors that have sprung up and not done well (Gab seems to be the exception at the moment but the others are pretty much dead after the initial “I’m switching” rush). Starting yet another competitor would be rather pointless.
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:48am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Hmm, yeah, he did pose the Free Speech question but he also Tweeted where he said “Is a new Platform needed?”
        Looks like wondering about an alternative to me
        He got the answer alright- see the comments
        https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1507777913042571267
        
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        April 6, 2022 10:12am
      - cmm
        
        He did at least say a few things that could be open to interpretation. Those were likely intentional.
        
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        April 6, 2022 10:22am
      - alloytoo
        
        GAB is an interesting experiment, they building the alternative lefties told them to build.
        
        The amount of online hate they get suggest they are doing well.
        
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        April 6, 2022 1:19pm
  - mawm
    
    kk – the top 5 shareholders in Twitter are
    1) Musk – 9.2%
    2) Vanguard – 8.8%
    3) Morgan Stanly – 8.4%
    4) Blackrock – 6.5%
    5) State Street – 4.5%
    
    It is unlikely that he’ll have any say in the direction the company goes.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:29am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Interesting. I guess the other point is that Musk often uses Twitter to influence companies and/or issues by leveraging his 80 million followers. As a Twitter director he will be constrained in terms of critical tweets from now onwards.
      
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      April 6, 2022 1:30pm
- emmess
  
  Really? I was not aware that Musk cannot exceed 14.9% ownership of Twitter. That’s disappointing.
  My thoughts are that he cannot make a real change to the company unless he has atleast 25-30%.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:41am
  - Raphael
    
    Really? I was not aware that Musk cannot exceed 14.9% ownership of Twitter. That’s disappointing.
    
    That was the agreement with him being appointed to the board. He already holds significantly more shares than any other party.
    
    My thoughts are that he cannot make a real change to the company unless he has atleast 25-30%
    
    Being on the board means he can affect more change than he could simply as a shareholder. It’s better for him to be on the board.
    My hope is one of his first actions is to get the Babylon Bee reinstated (he is a BIG fan of the Bee)
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:54am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Yes, as a board member he has significantly more influence that he would as a major shareholder. It is going to be fascinating to watch this play out. Musk is a disrupter, and he has both a very thick skin, and an army of top-shelf lawyers on speed dial. Most of all I’m looking forward to seeing woke heads explode. Popcorn please.
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:12am
      - MCōs
        
        He doesn’t have a ‘very thick skin’ at all.
        He had his nose right out of joint when his hair brain scheme to rescue the Thai boys stuck in the cave was rejected.
        He thinks he’s the bees knees when it comes to the big ticket items. Often he is, but not all the time and that’s his weakness.
        
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        April 6, 2022 11:30am
- mikenmildagain
  
  It’s not much point being the richest person in the world if you still have to face any consequences for lying.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:42am
- curry4me
  
  Don’t bet the farm on that. There are several other big investors with 6-9% share holdings. He could easily be out voted if he wants to bring President Trump back, or reduce censorship. Of course, he could say, back me, or I’ll sell, and the stock will drop, and interest will wane. Time will tell.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:39pm
Yvette

Our weak, weak sanctions –

Inaugural Foreign Policy Speech to Diplomatic Corps
HON NANAIA MAHUTA
4 FEBRUARY 2021

… The principles of partnership and mutual respect embodied in the Treaty provide the foundation for how New Zealand can conduct its foreign policy.

… As the first indigenous woman to lead this portfolio, I believe we have a prime opportunity to call on the bi-cultural values that have characterised who we are.
Values such as:

• manaaki – kindness or the reciprocity of goodwill;
• whanaunga – our connectedness or shared sense of humanity;
• mahi tahi and kotahitanga – collective benefits and shared aspiration; and,
• kaitiaki – protectors and stewards of our intergenerational wellbeing.

Each of these values when expressed in a relationship gives a sense that everything is connected and purposeful. What the world needs now is a commitment towards empathy, sustainability, and intergenerational solutions for wellbeing.
New Zealand will be a predictable and reliable partner. When I refer to being predictable I also mean that you will see New Zealand applying the values that reflect who we are as a nation.

… There is no better metaphor for where we are as a nation than the modern aerodynamic Team New Zealand waka, Te Rehutai. Bringing together the proud maritime legacy of two cultures – this indicates that together we have the capacity to move forward with confidence.
No reira kua pari ngā tai, kua timu ngā tai, he tai ope, he tai roa e kūmea mai nei i te tai nui kia eke panuku, eke tangaroa, Haumi e! Hui e! Taiki e! [1]

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/inaugural-foreign-policy-speech-diplomatic-corps

Do I comment? No, posting this is the comment …
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[1] Google Translate – So the tides have risen, the tides have receded, an army tide, a long tide that is being pulled from the high tide to go up, up the sea, Invest! Meet! Taiki e!
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April 6, 2022 8:23am
- Swifty
  
  “ • manaaki – kindness or the reciprocity of goodwill;
  • whanaunga – our connectedness or shared sense of humanity;
  • mahi tahi and kotahitanga – collective benefits and shared aspiration; and,
  • kaitiaki – protectors and stewards of our intergenerational wellbeing.…..”
  
  Absolute horseshit. A rose-tinted spectacle view of Maori and their past and grossly misleading.
  
  Pre-contact Maori routinely invaded neighbouring Maori, slaughtering them in great numbers, butchering surviving males and enslaving captured women and children.
  
  It was an absolute feature of Maori culture to drive others off their lands and away from their resources to enhance a tribes future prospects. Resistance was met with death.
  
  This and consuming natural resources until they were totally extinguished (more NZ species became extinct under Maori-only ‘guardianship’ than since Europeans arrived).
  
  Mahuta and her ilk need to grow up and face reality instead of attempting to rewrite history.
  
  This noble savage that was living in harmony with each other and within nature is a lie.
  
  Maori were no better nor worse than any other people living at similar stages of cultural and societal development.
  
  Just imagine Brits today getting all hurty about the Roman invasions instead of judging them impartially and concluding, on balance, that the (inevitable) invasions caused a Great Leap Forward in what is now British society.
  
  Say that out loud in NZ today and some people start throwing themselves on the floor and having tantrums.
  
  And these people are our supposed leaders?
  
  More like babies.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:40am
- Bill Felt
  
  “• kaitiaki – protectors and stewards of our intergenerational wellbeing.”
  
  Can someone show me any evidence of this? It is easy to say it, but to deliver?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:53am
  - alloytoo
    
    It’s like the African term “Ubuntu”, total BS when viewed in a historical lens.
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:21pm
- chukar
  
  Yvette,
  Must be easy for people to ignore a speeches in a foreign language they can’t understand.
  Do they have interpreters? Or sign language.
  International communication —yeah right!
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:55am
- godruelf
  
  A great reason to keep the Russian Ambassador here.Drag him in and subject him to a couple of Hours chatting with Mahuta. Reminded of the Vogons and their poetry in Hitchhikers Guide .
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:15am
I remember when

Article on whether to continue Daylight Saving.
The Listener: Daylight Robbery?:
“missing out on that hour of sleep is quite substantial from a safety and health point of view.”

So will weekends be the next thing to go?
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April 6, 2022 8:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The rotten PM snidely said her bit, what’s the bet she tries to push this so she has something to bugger off to the un with
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:49am
- wisteria
  
  No, the curtains will stop fading.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:35am
- cmm
  
  Yup, it is also bad for global warming. The extra hour of sun damages the ice.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:56am
Yvette

The latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report is a “continuation of a story which has become depressingly familiar”, Climate Change Minister James Shaw says.
Depressing – yes, we know

The One Billion Trees Fund has so far directly funded 47,988,000 trees for planting between 2018 and 2028
That is 4.8 percent of the trees target, in 22.5 percent of the 10 year period allowed for.

And what happened to the Climate Change Committee recommendation to dump the One Billion Trees Fund and instead plant 300 million native trees?

And is that now superseded (seeded– ha, I get it) by Shaw’s announcement in Glasgow that New Zealand would fund other countries to plant trees on New Zealand’s behalf – not only “kicking the can down the road”, but into other people’s backyards.

And that is done in penance for the emissions New Zealand continues to emit.
Nearly everything this Government touches, it fucks up.
This time too – for Shaw
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April 6, 2022 8:27am
- Albert_Ross
  
  If planting trees in other countries buys more emissions reduction per $ than planting trees in New Zealand, then planting trees in other countries is the better option. The climate doesn’t care where the emissions reductions happen, and there’s no environmental benefit to achieving a result more expensively when the same result could be achieved less expensively.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:24am
- cmm
  
  Does Shaw not have a mirror in his house?
  
  He’s has a larger carbon footprint that 99% of NZers and 99.9% of all people in the world.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:58am
Justitia

If anyone is in need of a booster inoculation against the outpouring of hysteria occasioned by the IPCC’s latest doom-laden ravings, pour yourself a gin and watch this golden oldie, “The Great Climate Change Swindle” https://youtu.be/pIRICfZOvpY.

Although made as long ago as 2007, the documentary’s conclusions remain valid. No one would be allowed to make a programme like this for television these days, so firm is the Left’s grip on the media: “The science is settled”.
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April 6, 2022 8:29am
- oldfella
  
  Don’t expect stuffed or the horrid to allow any comments on the subject.
  Why are they so scared to have a wide ranging debate?
  Not like it’s Maori science.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:37am
Maggie Pie

I’ve always considered myself a pretty good judge of a persons Body-Language.
And for very good reason of course 🙁

Don’t know about anyone else here, but I definitely get the vibe there’s very-little-love-lost between Peeni Henare and Jacinda Ardern.

Just saying.
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April 6, 2022 8:37am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I guess any relative of Tau Henare might have some difficulty in deciding which party to belong to.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:44am
- Nickc2
  
  Is there a possibility the Maori Caucus could roll Ardern? Asking for a friend.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:50am
  - pdm
    
    Nick – do you think Peeni Henare has started things rolling?
    
    Willie Jackson for Prime Minister!!.
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:08am
    - Nickc2
      
      How about Nanaia Mahuta?
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:23am
      - James Stephenson
        
        I’d imagine that rolling is probably the best way to move her, yes.
        
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        April 6, 2022 11:03am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Jackson has been very quiet, Robertson has a resigned look, they are forging ahead with 3 waters, when it will be the death kneel of their government
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:54am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I shouldn’t think so… she is their gift that keeps giving
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:38am
    - Swifty
      
      Yep, she leaves and it’s all over red rover.
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:42am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Look at Mahuta, she has lost a often load of weight, often when a plan is in place yo out the leader, the people involved change their appearance, like Cunliffe growing a beard
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:53am
    - H. Upmann
      
      Mahuta would definitely look better with a beard.
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:44am
  - John Pakes
    
    And so here starts another conspiracy theory. The good old “I am just asking ” response.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:42am
- Stellaboxer
  
  Maggie there’s not much love lost between New Zealand and Jacinda Ardern Henare is in good company.
  
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  April 6, 2022 8:56am
Yvette

health
Iwi-Māori partnership boards
Iwi-Māori partnership boards are already part of the health system – the Bill formally recognises them for the first time in order to represent the local voice of Māori.
The interim Māori Health Authority board is working with Māori to advise on the specific functions and powers of the partnership boards. There are likely to be changes to the Bill to reflect that process ahead of it being passed.
https://www.futureofhealth.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/Publications/factsheet-pae-ora-bill-oct2021.pdf

Iwi-Māori partnership boards –
1 – what are they?
2 – are they in fact mini maori DHBs?
3 – how many will there be?
4 – how many people will each have? and
5 – will there be equal non-Maori equivalents?

No answers? – just realise once this crap is started, the ram-Maori-fications may be endless
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April 6, 2022 8:38am
- artemisia
  
  How much wellbeing and funding emphasis will there be on maramataka? This is using the moon, sun, planets to guide activities and thus improve health.
  
  Also used to be used to determine the best times to go to war.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:13am
- chukar
  
  Absolutely agree,
  There must be transparent formal definition of the entities that are receiving all this tax payer funding.
  There should also be an formal public audit!
  Simply saying Maori does not cut it!
  Who are they!
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:11am
- Nickc2
  
  How much taxpayer money is being thrown at these things?
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:04pm
- Nickc2
  
  Has National and/or ACT said they will get rid of these fucking things when they are elected?
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:11pm
MCōs

I read this morning that Oklahoma has made performing an abortion a felony with a penalty of up to ten years in prison “except to save the life of a pregnant woman in a medical emergency”.
So if a twelve year old girl gets pregnant, by definition raped, she must have the baby.
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April 6, 2022 8:44am
- Batman
  
  That’s the MAGA Evangelical Handmaid dream coming true.
  
  They’re mentally unwell individuals.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:04am
  - Don Beckett
    
    The “mentally unwell” are those who think that killing a helpless developing human being in the womb is a service to society.
    Abortion – the worst form of child abuse.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:14am
    - Batman
      
      Sorry but these Bills aren’t doing that, they’re locking in forced pregnancies in cases of rape and incest, for girls of young ages. That is child abuse of a worse kind than the unfortunate task of terminating a tiny foetus that is unfeeling and unaware.
      
      I’m not a fan of late term abortions without good reason, hence I am making a distinction between the two.
      
      The extremist ‘all or nothing’s mentality of these religious zealots is extremely fucked up and immoral.
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:26am
      - alloytoo
        
        “they’re locking in forced pregnancies in cases of rape and incest, for girls of young ages.”
        
        They’re not, there are exemptions for those circumstances.
        
        https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2022/03/23/oklahoma-abortion-ban-senate-hb-4327-texas-abortion-law/7134789001/
        
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        April 6, 2022 1:31pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Rubbish. We daily get reports of horrendous abuse and killings of young children that are infinitely worse than early term abortions of non-sentient fetuses
      
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      April 6, 2022 2:09pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    Ohh you are going to be soooooo salty when the GOP retake the house and senate
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:00pm
    - Batman
      
      There’s no guarantee they will.
      
      I think you believe I’m way more emotionally invested than I actually am. Particularly in the Democrats who I am very “meh” on.
      
      It’s merely the authoritarian charlatans of the GOP which I have no time for. Oh and AOC who I think is a naive busybody.
      
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      April 6, 2022 12:52pm
- alloytoo
  
  “The legislation also includes an exception for women who seek an abortion due to rape, sexual assault or incest so long as the crime has been reported to law enforcement.”
  
  https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2022/03/23/oklahoma-abortion-ban-senate-hb-4327-texas-abortion-law/7134789001/
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:36am
  - MCōs
    
    Anyone under the age of consent can have an abortion as long as they go to the police?
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:37am
    - alloytoo
      
      the exemption says “Rape”.
      
      “By definition raped” you said.
      
      So yes.
      
      How this would work in practice if both parties are underage is probably a case by case matter for the courts.
      
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      April 6, 2022 1:28pm
  - Swifty
    
    Thank you.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:37am
- Swifty
  
  That is so wrong.
  
  It’s like something out of Afghanistan under the Taliban.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:43am
- mikenmildagain
  
  The American Taliban are getting increasingly confident that they can create their version of heaven on Earth.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:48am
  - alloytoo
    
    Indeed, but Midterms are looming and it appears the Wokest Fundamentalists are in for a drubbing.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:02am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Didn’t think the democrats odds were that good
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:59am
  - Batman
    
    American Taliban is surprisingly accurate, they’re now looking to marry those children which they also want to force pregnancies upon
    
    https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-politics/a-get-out-of-jail-free-card-gop-bill-would-eliminate-age-requirements-for-marriages-in-tennessee/
    
    The omission of an age requirement is evidently intentional. Probably to please the creepy religious types (a subset of normal religious people, before anyone gets upset).
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:18pm
    - alloytoo
      
      https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2022/03/23/oklahoma-abortion-ban-senate-hb-4327-texas-abortion-law/7134789001/
      
      “The legislation also includes an exception for women who seek an abortion due to rape, sexual assault or incest so long as the crime has been reported to law enforcement.”
      
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      April 6, 2022 1:32pm
    - Mike
      
      I seem to recall that one of the states (New Hampshire?) had difficulty with raising the marriage age from 13 some years ago, as some politicians thought that girls needed to retain the option of marrying their rapists.
      
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      April 6, 2022 2:50pm
  - gump
    
    Talibangelicals
    
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    April 6, 2022 5:22pm
- Cinematic
  
  The greatest thing about the US is that it’s a collection of States. Internal competition and consequent migration due to taxes, law and other issues is a constant.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:54am
- Libertarians are right
  
  Horrible law.
  Hopefully all of this leads to what needs to happen:
  Roe vs Wade clearly needs to be overturned. It’s judicial activism and completely unconstitutional. Based on that incredibly stupid Supreme Court decision, the Supreme Court could actually find taxes above a certain point (which they would get to determine) unconstitutional. It’s simply moronic.
  
  Then of course they need to create an actual federal law or maybe even a constitutional amendment to ensure women actually have that legal right.
  
  That’s obviously very difficult (impossible) to pull off which is why the Supreme Court threw the constitution out the window and stepped in.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:42am
- Nukuleka
  
  Don’t lie, MCōs. You wilfully mislead in order to reinforce your bigotry.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:07am
- Frank the tank
  
  Like your analysis of Desantis’ don’t say gay bill my gut feel is this cut and paste manipulated drivel from a liberal newspaper such as Wapo. I’ll read Breitbart/Fox and then arrive at the middle to see what the true implications of the bill are.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:58am
  - Batman
    
    I’ve got bad news for you about Breitbart. Actual Americans have a very dim view of it and fellow travellers Newsmax and OAN.
    
    Then again, only the weather channel is spared 😅
    
    https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/04/05/trust-media-2022-where-americans-get-news-poll
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:55pm
  - RichardX
    
    Frank, that would be fallacious reasoning.
    
    https://www.logicalfallacies.org/middle-ground.html
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:29pm
- Matt Long
  
  Good news for you Mcōs, Maryland is trying to pass a law to allow parents to kill their babies post birth, doesn’t that give you a warm happy glow?
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:13pm
  - MCōs
    
    I was concerned at your sneering allegation so I looked up some information on that which you were alleging and predictably the fiction is stranger than the truth.
    https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/verify/maryland-abortion-bill-would-not-allow-newborn-babies-to-be-killed-fact-check/65-dcfe30b6-cfa1-4f9f-8a13-55e9f0f12e53
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:50pm
Surely Knott

Dunedin Bar owner Dudley Benson plans to keep the vaccine passport according to stuff.

Is this due to health or politics. Dudley’s been in the
media before sharing his political opinions. In Spinoff he was picture with Adern. Where he said,”One of the first songs Benson wrote for the album was ‘Muscles’, a track reminding himself to play the long game when it comes to being frustrated and upset about the behaviour of politicians. “I forget what it was that John Key did around that time but it was something unspeakable.” “It keeps everything real and keeps me on track and helps me to deal with twats like John Key.”

So is Dudley Benson’s decision to keep vaccine passports about health or another pr opportunityfor his political views ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/128270571/dunedin-bar-keeps-vaccine-pass-rule-as-local-covid-cases-continue-to-rise

https://thespinoff.co.nz/music/27-07-2018/dudley-bensons-zealandia-inside-one-of-the-most-ambitious-records-in-nz-music-history
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April 6, 2022 8:47am
- kevn
  
  @SK… So long as it costs him clientele. His choice.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:29am
- KH
  
  I am very happy to be vaccine checked. Happier still in bars that do it.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:35am
  - Zero Kindness
    
    I’m feel sad for you that you are very happy.
    But I am extremely happy if you only go to bars that still discriminate.
    
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    April 6, 2022 10:41am
- alloytoo
  
  “Unspeakable” yet forgettable.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:37am
- Ehlana
  
  So his business will close in May or June then?
  
  I think that’s when those passports run out.
  
  Great that his customers and staff have so much notice to find alternative venues and employment though.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:41am
- PHC
  
  A good way of keeping the tourists out
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:45am
- Inandout
  
  SK, he reads like he is an odious chap but he is the correct gender for Labour as he lives with his boyfriend. What is it about Dunedin that throws up these sorts?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:53am
  - Batman
    
    Ahhhh nice to see you keeping up your casual homophobic views to attack others for political pettiness.
    
    How very low rent.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:30am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Don’t know who Dudley is, but my pub out South has dumped them, they only checked strangers papers for fear of the rotten gestapo who were under cover, I do think some of the bars and cafes in the busier central Dunedin possibly had to do what they were doing to keep leftie visits happy, but stuff Mr Benson, I eill stay happily out south
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:58am
Surely Knott

Auckland Council’s awarded contracts shows this years “elections marketing” budget goes to Daylight Creative – “A spinoff to the spinoff” D.C is Spinoff’s creative agency owned by Duncan & Nichola Grieve, and Toby Manhire.
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April 6, 2022 8:55am
- alex Masterley
  
  And the company was only incorporated in March 2021.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:33am
  - Ehlana
    
    I wonder how it demonstrated a reliable track record of delivery then?
    
    Or do they not care about that when they are spending our money?
    
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    April 6, 2022 9:49am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      If the entity giving out the money doesn’t keep records or fails to establish criteria for awarding the money, then there’s no need to demonstrate anything.
      
      A lack of documentation made it hard to see if funding was fair and there was value for money. No inquiries were made about parent companies’ equity and resources.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018836508/the-sorry-saga-of-the-strategic-tourism-asset-protection-fund
      
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      April 6, 2022 10:40am
surfing

Some people have a net-negative impact on human progress. One of them is Russ Rimmington, whose efforts have made society poorer as a whole. We all have less money and worse lifestyles because of him and others like him.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128211593/hamiltonauckland-train-spent-as-many-days-off-the-tracks-as-on-in-its-first-year

Rimmington is the primary driver behind the Hamilton-Auckland choochoo train, he is to blame for tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions in lost ratepayer and taxpayer cash. That money could have gone towards fixing Taurangas roading crisis, or built a road tunnel through the kaimais (by cleverly excluding New Zealand engineers and workers).

Rimmington also tried to block the sleephead development, thankfully he didn’t get his own way. What is wrong with people in the Waikato? Why do they keep hiring this turkey?
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April 6, 2022 9:23am
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/lake-wanaka-near-lowest-level-in-30-years/NBN7RBNOIBBB6GT2T3HDECNYD4/

Get ready for winter power outages – if this is the state of Wanaka our other Southern Lakes won’t be well either.
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April 6, 2022 9:27am
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-grant-dalton-hits-back-at-criticism-in-new-zealand-following-decision-to-take-cup-offshore/IHSFHPERUIZCNR3HM7KJ2JFNUA/

National Treasure. A man’s man. We need more people like him that tell it like it is.
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April 6, 2022 9:30am
- blue collar
  
  Bloody oath frank …. The Grant dalton n bob jones party …. Call it what ya like , I’d vote for it
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:53am
Maggie Pie

Obviously, I’ve got no idea just how much effect my posts here may of had on TVOne’s decision to get rid of John Campbell off Breakfast……but I’m sure they would have contributed 😀
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April 6, 2022 9:32am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Did you get the rest of your night-fill shift to tweet and write about it as well?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:50am
- Cassandra
  
  We’ll done Maggie. It’d have to be telepathy though. He is a smarmy little fella.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:54am
- John Pakes
  
  Methinks that you boast too much Maggie. TVNZ and John Campbell would never take any notice of an anonymous blogger.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:48am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Having no detectable SoH would struggle to understand Maggie.
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:11pm
Nickc2

Things aren’t getting any better at the Govt’s Ministry of Propaganda
I just heard Kerre Woodham on TalkbackZB respond to some caller about Russia firing missiles at NZ.
Woodhams response was along the lines of: Why would they, NZ is at the bottom of the Universe and they couldn’t reach NZ anyway.”
* What, bottom of the Universe, really?
* Submarines launch Missiles too Kerre.
Are these Govt mouthpieces too arrogant to acknowledge when they are completely out of their depth?
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April 6, 2022 9:41am
Tauhei Notts

In town to buy some biscuits. Then I remembered that I need some Heineken. $22.99 for a dozen, so I will take 2 dozen; that will be about $43.99.
NO. 24 bottles is $52.99.
I brought that silly arithmetical error to the attention of three staff members and none of them could see anything wrong in the pricing.
Ok, I know a bit about quadratic equations and other mathematical stuff; BUT this is simple arithmetic, and that is beyond the level of intellectual grunt possessed by those three employees. I have on occasions expressed concern about the level of support for the Green Party. The response of those three helps me comprehend how dingbats can get so many votes.
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April 6, 2022 9:47am
- mikenmildagain
  
  It’s quite common for larger quantity packages of almost anything to be more expensive per kilo or litre than smaller packages.
  But you are overlooking your main error: buying Heineken?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:54am
- Swifty
  
  $45.98?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:55am
- Cassandra
  
  $45.98?
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:56am
- Inandout
  
  TH, supermarkets have the best beer deals.
  
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  April 6, 2022 9:56am
- Pavel
  
  You’re right, $22.99 x 2 is not $52.99. It also doesn’t equal $43.99 either.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:01am
  - alloytoo
    
    He did say “About”
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:08am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I was told there wouldn’t be any maths!
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:15am
- Ra Henare
  
  Haha. Its marketing.
  Random pricing. Customer decision pricing
  You u of course had the option to buy 2 & one dozen.
  
  Its nothing to do with arithmetic, everything to do with marketing to get the best bottom line.
  
  I strongly recommend the… Undercover Economist…. by Tim Harford. The subject of pricing is well covered.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:37am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Excellent book. Did you like Freakonomics as well?
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  $45.98. Without a calculator. The 3 staff members are going nowhere
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:24am
  - Batman
    
    The staff are acting in accordance with the owner’s wishes, are they not?
    
    The fact is, they will have stock of 12 packs they want to shift out the door, hence the pricing.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:33am
  - RichardX
    
    That Steve felt it was necessary to include “Without a calculator” for multiplying a number by 2 reminds me of Trump’s pride in his cognitive test results.
    
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    April 6, 2022 4:19pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  It’s not always cheaper to buy in bulk!
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:29am
blue collar

BIDEN DOING A BRENDA
slow joes in the shit at home , hammering the oil reserves to appease the people , not working though n too prolonged …. Hey I know !! That lady in the pacific we hv flagged as a raging commie ….. she throws a wedding every time she’s down n out n gets great press ….. GET ON IT !!!!
Next minute they dredge up a grand daughter of the prez n go hot damn ! Let’s do it at the Whitehouse !! That’ll get the press excited .
Biden , “ well done y’all , it will give me great pleasure to wed mr ummm … errr …. Ahem , and my daughter ( whispers ) ummmm granddaughter ….. these fine American people , umm , to get wed , ummm ….. Thankyou “

And here we are …. The lamest leaders in the world hiding behind weddings , whatever next ?
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April 6, 2022 9:54am
krazykiwi

UK Public Wants Government Held to Account Over Use of Fear in Pandemic, Poll Shows.

Yes, well, “IF YOU GO OUT, YOU CAN SPREAD IT. PEOPLE WILL DIE” was one of the messages repeatedly pushed at UK citizens.

I understand this poll was commissioned once the terms of reference were released, when these notably excluded any investigation of the government policy on children. 60% of the respondents want this area in-scope, and it’s not a wonder when we read headline like this: Covid Restrictions Have Left a Generation of Babies and Toddlers Struggling to Crawl and Communicate, According to Ofsted. I have a back catalogue of links documenting the harm caused to children by hyperventilating government interventions.
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April 6, 2022 9:56am
Bill Felt

Looking like internal polling (by Labour) has them in the lower 30’s!

Roll out the family stories.
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April 6, 2022 9:56am
Maggie Pie

And remember this?

I’d bet Paddy Gower would rather forget it as well 😀

https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/1511179018984296454

(O.M.G….the comments!!)
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April 6, 2022 10:03am
- surfing
  
  Gower is not a smart man. I have wondered why he is more popular than he deserves.
  
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  April 6, 2022 10:13am
Ra Henare

I have been a Kiwiblogger since Adam was a cowboy.

In recent years the comments have become a rant chamber for a dozen or so.

It would be interesting to see what percent of comments are generated by the top ten commenters.

My feeling it would be 90%+

Can I suggest a limit of 2 comments per member per post.

Then it would make the blog more readable. In my humble opinion.
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April 6, 2022 10:12am
- cmm
  
  That’s an interesting idea.
  
  An alternative would be to use the uptick and down tick system to control the algorithm.
  
  When someone gets an uptick it is generally an indication that people appreciate this point of view and find it interesting and want to read more of this person’s contributions.
  
  When they down tick, then they want to read less.
  
  So a suitable algorithm might be that if a person has more than 10 upticks than down ticks on a post they can keep posting. If not, then they get limited to 2.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:09am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Terrible idea. Why do you want an echo chamber?
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:30am
  - westernScientist
    
    But I already have to click the little button to see most of batman and MMs posts, why make it harder.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:36am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Why don’t you just set up your own blog Razzie?
  
  Then you can do what you freekin’ like.
  
  Honestly, ‘eh!
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:22am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Actually, don’t answer that Ra.
    I see you’ve already used your allocation for the day.
    
    LOL!!
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:29pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    ha ha. Yep Maggie, you would be in top 10 of commenters I am sure.
    
    To be honest tho. They are usually short and pithy.
    
    Its the long winded rants that I find irritatingly boring.
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:30pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      ‘If I had more time, I would have written less’
      
      GB Shaw
      
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      April 6, 2022 9:08pm
I remember when

Caleb Clarke will face the judiciary tonight, after allegedly contravening law 9.11 whereby “players must not do anything that is dangerous or reckless.”
The mind boggles.
As Leon MacDonald said “I don’t think it was reckless and it was (just) unfortunate.”
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April 6, 2022 10:16am
I remember when

Bill Ralston: Listener: New facts of live:
“It’ll become like the flu or colds, but a bit worse.”
No Bill, it will be similar to the flu, which is not the disease it was in 1918.
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April 6, 2022 10:22am
Jimmy Brown

Another complete failure from Labour.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128211593/hamiltonauckland-train-spent-as-many-days-off-the-tracks-as-on-in-its-first-year
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April 6, 2022 10:31am
surfing

Where is the taxpayers union on this waste of money….

https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0029/279803/MBNZ-Summer-Report-2022-24-March-2022.pdf

Commerce commission have given millions to ‘samknows’ to produce a useless report every year.

When choosing an ISP, I need to know speed & latency in peak and off peak periods by ISP. Report is a waste of taxpayer money.
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April 6, 2022 10:34am
Maggy Wassilieff

Ashley Bloomfield Resigns

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/director-general-of-health-ashley-bloomfield-resigns/UQXM6X2XRTHIINQMPWYDEKDSWU/
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April 6, 2022 10:47am
- k1w1
  
  Good riddance to that control freak, I say. Yes, yes, doing his job, but he overegged the pudding on numerous occasions, imo.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:20am
- westernScientist
  
  The new Labour party leader?
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    WS, downtick by mistake.
    I thought the new leader might end up being the pink terror
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:44am
    - MCōs
      
      Deliberately downticked.
      
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      April 6, 2022 12:23pm
      - westernScientist
        
        haha good for you Mcos, that gave me a chuckle.
        
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        April 6, 2022 1:11pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Great. One less liar to listen to – but who will be his replacement? Will the devil we know be better than the devil we don’t ?
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Too much heat, time to get out of the kitchen.
    XE is coming, Jaspinda will lock us down again.
    Blofeld wants no part of it
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:42am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I imagine he wants no part of Andrew Little’s dismembering of the DHBs and the construction of the new Health Authority and Māori health Authority.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/government-announces-how-initial-22m-funding-for-maori-health-authority-will-be-spent/ZX7IQEYXB3B5655UBI6LQXRZCM/
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:47am
- DimChappie
  
  Jolly Good Riddance to him. What a liar: slamming invermectin as unsafe then redefining swimming for Wiles:
  “”I’ve had a message from Siouxsie who described what happened. From what she told me, it didn’t sound like protocols were breached, and I don’t think that the person who went into the water what they did could be described as a swim,” he said.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:37am
  - MCōs
    
    Is that it?
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:54pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      His claims about PPE and flu vaccine availability in 2020 (denying front line commentary) and his scoffing at pre-departure testing when Crusher suggested it, and his more recent ‘consolidation’ of RATs, and lies that kits weren’t being taken onshore from business purchases, all showed him to be far from open and honest about the true state of affairs.
      He was revealed to be a shifty politician numerous times. Glad to see him gone, aside from the chance for something worse to follow.
      
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      April 6, 2022 3:25pm
- fisho
  
  Probably a lovely guy, but politically compromised, so good riddance.
  
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  April 6, 2022 3:09pm
I remember when

Newshub: Parliament lawn infested with Rats:
So obviously the rats are a result of the ‘dirty and unkempt’ protesters.
Did the rats travel with the convoy?
Were they kiore brought along for sustenance?
Or, as was obviously the case, opportunistic Wellington rats that saw the chance to infest the campsite.
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April 6, 2022 10:51am
- alloytoo
  
  I thought the Parliament itself was infested, about 120 of them.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:11am
- Batman
  
  Who could’ve guessed that freedom camping with poor sanitation, food scraps aplenty, and lots of rubbish and hidey holes would attract rats?
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:55am
  - alloytoo
    
    Well, that’s what the police bully boys left behind.
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:37pm
- MCōs
  
  I saw pictures of piles of rubbish bags, no doubt full of food scraps. A magnet for rats who would also love all that straw and the pop up kitchen.
  BTW
  If you fancy a feed of rat, they’re the wrong type.
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:37pm
CAKE FACE1

I haven’t forgotten that Mr Farrar wholeheartedly supported all the restrictions throughout the dark days of the Covid cold conspiracy.

When there was one case of the flu in Auckland, this blog completely supported the imposition of the three month plus lockdown.

Since this time, I haven’t seen any posts by the blog owner reflecting on his previous support for the frankly insane restrictions.

Does this mean that he still supports the absurd restrictions imposed over the past two and a half years? Or has he subsequently come to his senses, and realised it was basically nonsense?

I would like to know what the blog owner thinks now about the handling of Covid over the past two years or so.

There are a lot of people who have gone very quiet, because they got everything wrong for a very long period of time. They should be honest, and acknowledge this, in my opinion.
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April 6, 2022 10:59am
graham

SHOCKING NEWS!

A NZ Herald journalist discovers there are places on the Internet that may not be entirely regulated and tightly controlled, where people can say dumb stuff.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-front-page-the-dangerous-online-world-of-the-man-charged-with-threatening-to-kill-the-pm/DFPHNE6PSBQRLYKGROMTJEOAFE/
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April 6, 2022 11:00am
- Surely Knott
  
  So the expert they quote about how Sivell got to this place is David Fisher another jounralist. Hardly qualified in psychology. Fisher makes these racist stereotyping generalisations: “Sivell is slightly outside of the norm in that he’s 39, but a lot of anger and expression of violent anger comes from Pākehā men aged 40 and over, who often have small to medium-sized businesses and are self-employed.”
  
  Let’s try the stereotyping test to see if we put in other names if it still sounds kind. “…a lot of anger and expression of violent anger comes from Maori women aged 40 and over who work for the public sector”. Stereotyping and wrong, or completely ok.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:36am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    What could possibly make self-employed owners of small to medium-sized businesses angry? Now there’s an opportunity for Fisher’s investigative journalism.
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:44am
    - Swifty
      
      A very good question.
      
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      April 6, 2022 11:51am
  - Nickc2
    
    Don’t be suprised if the Plods pay you a visit for even thinking like that.
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:20pm
Alan Wilkinson

Anyone getting utterly crap internet service from Vodafone at present should try setting their DNS server to google instead.
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April 6, 2022 11:13am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  … unless of course you are an idiot downticker.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:27am
- Pavel
  
  Google? It’s been so long since I’ve used Google, in which time I’ve learnt how incredible bias they are, that I find myself asking “why the hell does anyone use Google anymore?” One of my favorite lines now is; “is that a fact or did you read it on Google”. Theres plenty of better options, Google is passe.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:14pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    However its DNS servers actually work which is a great improvement on Vodafone’s. Not sure you understand what a DNS server is.
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:54pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Did Not Start ? 😆
      
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      April 6, 2022 5:35pm
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      Am interested to know. Can you explain in layman’s terms – please?
      
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      April 6, 2022 7:00pm
Maggie Pie

Talkback caller to 1ZB’s Kerry Woodham from up North somewhere, bleating about people…. “who own Holiday Homes that only visit them 2 or 3 times a year”.
Says they expect to make use of all the local facilities, but never involve themselves in any ‘community activities’.

Honestly, people like that really piss us off!
Why can’t they just mind their own business?
Whenever we go to Tindalls, we go to relax.
And we hardly ever speak to anyone, let alone use any of the so-called facilities.

SHEESH!
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April 6, 2022 11:16am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The trouble with community activities is that they are usually full of idiots and generally run by them. Which violates my rule for life of avoiding idiots.
  
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  April 6, 2022 11:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mini control freaks
    
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    April 6, 2022 11:37am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Exactly right what you say WilkiE!
    
    A mate of my partner joined the Manly-Life-Saving-Club…..and he can’t even swim!
    
    Gets to use all the facilities though 😀
    
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    April 6, 2022 12:11pm
- alloytoo
  
  They expect to make use of the local facilities because they pay rates perhaps?
  
  Because when they’re not using them they ‘re rented out to others who spend money in the community?
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:41pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Climate change climate change climate change.
Seems to be the new Covid. Something new to empty your wallet.
I have mentioned this before, but here goes again:
I have been to Alaska twice, and twice to the town of Seward. They have a glacier there – Exit Glacier. Face is about 400M from the carpark. Along the trail are marker pegs showing where the glacier face used to be in years past. Goes back to the 1920s I think.
But what is not told is the glacier face used to be at the ocean, some 12 miles away.
Exit Glacier has been receding since before the Industrial Revolution. Climate Change crackheads are full of shit flakes. It is called ‘weather’ It changes over the centuries
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April 6, 2022 11:35am
- fisho
  
  Wow, I really do wish I’d been in NZ 200 years ago to see Fiordland at the peak of its glacial beauty before the CO2 pollution of the Industrial Revolution decimated them.
  
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  April 6, 2022 3:17pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Agreed – seeing Glacier Bay now compared to what it was like ~1750 really drives the point home. The bays glacial history was first based on Tlingit oral history, now corroborated by modern science.
  https://www.nps.gov/glba/learn/nature/glacier-bay-s-glacial-history.htm
  
  Unfortunately “weather” also stuffed this up so guess I’ll have to go back there – it’s still on the bucket list 🙂
  https://alaskabackcountryaccess.com/?tour_locations=seward&tour_types=any&price=175-645&pack-listings=true&orderby=date
  
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  April 6, 2022 3:34pm
cmm

The penny is finally dropping that there is more to getting infected than just getting vaccinated and boosted.

Public health officials are fixated on control. They can control vaccinations. They cannot control things people do for themselves: lifestyle choices that lead to better immunity, Vit D etc.

This is a start, but there’s likely more to come….

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/a-doctor-explains-why-you-havent-caught-covid-yet/TLYOZIO2AMFKISAWFQ3MYRGOUY/
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April 6, 2022 11:46am
Benedict Yu

This the funniest thing I have read for days 🙂 🙂 Very entertaining.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/128269183/covid19-experts-shocked-at-low-booster-and-child-vaccine-rates

“Epidemiologist Michael Baker said he’s surprised people aren’t getting properly vaccinated, given the unpredictability of the virus and what we’ve learnt during the pandemic.”

““I am still shocked that not everyone has rushed out to get their booster shot, there’s almost a million New Zealanders who haven’t got boosted,” Baker said.” ““Have they not been listening? ”

🙂 No they have not been listening 🙂

And this is the bit that made me laugh out loud. 🙂 🙂 So funny 🙂

“Baker said he was also amazed that parents weren’t taking their children to get vaccinated.”
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April 6, 2022 11:55am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They have not been listening because of the constant lies from those ‘experts
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:10pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    ““This decision is great news and means that from tomorrow, around 36,000 rangatahi aged 16 and 17 years will be eligible to receive a booster dose,” Hipkins said.”
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300559743/covid19-16-and-17-year-olds-eligible-for-pfizer-vaccine-boosters
    
    I had to look up “rangatahi”.
    
    Well good luck with that. I suspect most 16 and 17 year olds have stopped listening a long time ago.
    
    And we are being softened up for a 4th shot.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300559173/fourth-jab-decision-still-pending-study-finds-triple-protection-from-severe-covid19
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:18pm
    - graham
      
      Rather than making a mish-mash of two different languages, why doesn’t Hipkins just go full out and say the whole thing in Maori?
      
      “He korero pai tenei whakatau, a, hei apopo, tata ki te 36,000 nga rangatahi 16 me te 17 tau te pakeke ka whai waahi ki te whiwhi i te horopeta booster.” According to Google Translate. I have no idea how accurate it is, but there you are.
      
      Come on, Minister Hipkins – there’s a challenge for you. If you’re gong to pretend that everybody listening to you understands these Maori words you’re peppering your announcments with, you may as well pretend they can understand entire sentences or speeches in Maori.
      
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      April 6, 2022 1:31pm
- Clownworld
  
  Apart from being another insane diatribe from the propaganda machine, the last sentence was the sole source of leaked truth ” we can’t predict what the virus will do next” or words to that affect.
  
  Muppets!
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:50pm
- cmm
  
  And since they told us the vaccine is just like the measles vaccine, people are not getting their measles vaccinations either.
  
  I, and many others, warned that these false claims about the effectiveness of the CV19 vaccine could have serious detrimental effects. It’s looking like we could have been right.
  
  The sooner these bastards stop over-selling the CV19 vaccine the better.
  
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  April 6, 2022 12:57pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    We could have a double hit this year of a flu outbreak and a measles outbreak – a serious one. You know one that will actually kill a few children and cause very distressing illness in large numbers.
    
    Just a thought experiment. My three year old grand daughter has had COVID. When I was told I was not concerned. I obviously checked in on her but she was fine in a few days. On the other hand, if I was told she has measles I would be extremely worried. Of course she will not get measles because she has been vaccinated. You know by a “vaccine” that works like it says on the packet.
    
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    April 6, 2022 1:14pm
- Pavel
  
  I know at least a dozen unvaccinated people, myself included, who have had covid and none have been badly sick from it. Hot and cold flushes and a bit tired for 2 days, not even a runny nose. Alot of countries with low Vax rates are learning this too, hence why mandates are dropping all over the place. Unless you’re vulnerable covid is nothing to fear.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:20pm
- alloytoo
  
  Because vaccination (co-morbities aside) will make no difference to the severity of covid in under 17 year olds. Why expose them to a vaccine with nasty side effects for no benefit.
  
  I would consider that child abuse.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:44pm
Alan Wilkinson

Another useless woke organization going belly-up:. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/128279141/auckland-public-transport-at-risk-in-funding-perfect-storm

Fresh from wrecking every road and business it touches Auckland Transport can’t fund its public transport no-one wants.
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April 6, 2022 11:56am
- Benedict Yu
  
  My prediction is that PT usage will not move much with half price fares. For most people price is not the barrier. It is just not fit for purpose.
  
  I just checked the PT route planner. I can get to Christchurch Airport from my home in 56 minutes by public transport. Or 17 minutes if I drive my car.
  
  I would not use public transport in Christchurch if I was paid $10 each time.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:24pm
  - curry4me
    
    I’d be very surprised if the 50% reduction in PT fares is not made permanent. Stalinda doesn’t want to risk another poll drop. And its only ‘government money”. /sarc
    
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    April 6, 2022 2:05pm
  - rockape
    
    From my home in Wakefield there is no way my wife,a nurse working shifts, could use public transport. It doesn’t exhist !
    
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    April 6, 2022 4:13pm
- alloytoo
  
  I propose the complete withdrawal of subsidies to public transport.
  
  Let them charge market prices.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

He will be back.
https://rumble.com/vzju8x-crowd-goes-wild-as-trump-asks-would-anybody-here-like-to-see-me-run-in-2024.html?
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April 6, 2022 12:09pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is what Republicans have to fight – the corrupt left.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pennsylvania-da-finds-massive-ballot-fraud-but-no-one-will-be-prosecuted/?
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April 6, 2022 12:16pm
Jack5

Is the NZ Army Woke?

From South Africa to Gallipoli, to Passchendaele, to Greece, Crete, Alamein, Cassino, and then Korea, Malaysia, and Vietnam, New Zealand infantry, white and brown, showed they could fight, and often along side Aussies.

But something’s changed, according to David Fisher, in the Herald, writing about NZ soldiers’ complaints about alleged acts by the Australian SAS in Timor and Afghanistan.

Fisher writes, in part, of the:

…. transformation in 1994 of NZ Army from a conventional Western military to the iwi, Ngati Tumatauenga, “‘The Tribe of the God of War”. It wasn’t simply the adoption of the name but the incorporation of Te Ao Maori.

It meant a soldier’s pathway into the iwi was one of developing whakapapa. They had to look back and understand how that iwi came to be formed, its tupuna and its defeats and victories. It created an organisation that sought to draw an understanding from New Zealand’s indigenous roots as much as its colonial past.

The NZ Army’s origins go back to settlers’ militia in the Bay of Islands, and later to settler and pro-British Maori units in the land wars from the later 1840s. With units and officers like the guerrilla fighter, Gustavus von Tempsky, from the beginning it wasn’t “conventional Western military.”

What would the old soldier settlers think of the NZ Army as portrayed by Fisher?

Fisher’s article, which is behind the paywall:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-fisher-this-is-why-our-nzsas-were-willing-to-testify-against-australias-special-forces/PIUARIIHQ3UJKP5CQIUIAXYNJY/
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April 6, 2022 12:37pm
- cmm
  
  Well they won’t be needing those stale pale missiles then. May as well send them to Ukraine.
  
  I’m sure we can use magic taniwha sticks instead.
  
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  April 6, 2022 1:00pm
  - Mike
    
    Have you ever been hit with a taiaha?
    
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    April 6, 2022 3:01pm
    - cmm
      
      Try take tank with one.
      
      I suppose if the awesome Maori can winch up an island with their fishing lines they can probably knock out a helicopter or tank too.
      
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      April 6, 2022 6:04pm
- curry4me
  
  As its behind a paywall, that’s reason 958 not to look at it.
  
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  April 6, 2022 2:06pm
- Mike
  
  The army invented a tradition that they were founded in the 1840s by the passing of a Militia Act. This is largely bullshit.
  
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  April 6, 2022 3:00pm
JerJer

Does this guy have a box of dumb ideas that he occasionally plays lucky dip with…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-superannuation-maori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-suggests-lowering-eligibility-age/ABLOZ5Q7EBVVWRHXFLEHQTLL2Y/

Really, one race gets 7 years of additional super because of inate laziness/lifestyle/racism issues. I’m sure however this will go absolutely nowhere like the rest of his ideas. However, I would be interested to know the levels of benefits being received by the targets of this stupidy versus the rate of super. You can’t get a benefit as well as a pension at the same time, it could well be that recipients may be worse off.
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April 6, 2022 2:08pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  I wonder how ordinary Maori who make good decisions feel about all this? On one hand they would get free money that they have no more right to (or need for) than anyone else, but on the other hand they are constantly looked down on by these activists who treat them like they can’t do anything without help.
  
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  April 6, 2022 4:39pm
- cmm
  
  But at least these people can then retire and put their feet up after a hard life on the dole.
  
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  April 6, 2022 6:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Gosh, how did we manage to survive winters past without being placed in some form of masked traffic-light regulation?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300559838/covid19-chris-hipkins-says-nz-might-not-go-green-before-summer-red-traffic-light-possible-through-winter
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April 6, 2022 3:37pm
- cmm
  
  We didn’t Maggy. We all died.
  
  According to Baker, a quarter of all NZ gets flu every year and a third of all deaths (10,000) are due to flu.
  
  And he’d be right if we counted flu infection/deaths the way we count CV19 infection/deaths.
  
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  April 6, 2022 6:01pm
Jack5

Woke bulletin …

Black Lives Matter leaders are alleged to have spent $US6 million in donations buying a luxury California mansion. The house has more than half a dozen bedrooms and bathrooms, multiple fireplaces, a soundstage, a pool and parking for more than 20 cars.

BLM officials tried to keep its existence a secret, a report has claimed.

Pressed on the purpose of the opulent house – known as “the campus” – an internal note was circulated exploring ways to “kill the story”, the New York Magazine reported.
The Telegraph reports Patrice Cullors, who founded the BLM movement in 2013, is a self-described Marxist. It’s been reported that she owns four properties, including a $US1.4 million house in Malibu and a ranch in Georgia.

Scottish Wokery …

Stirling University has replaced Jane Austen from a literature course with African American Toni Morrison to help “decolonisation of the curriculum”.

The Telegraph reports swapping Austen for Morrison would also “contribute to increased diversity” on the syllabus.

“The main topics covered will include racial difference and critical race theory, gender and sexuality.”

And …

Glasgow Council is considering removing a statue of the explorer David Livingstone. This is on the ground that the momument is one of eight in Glasgow with links to the slave trade.

This is despite the fact that Livingstone was a campaigner for the abolition of slavery.

The link in Livingstone’s case is that from 1823 he at a cotton mill that in the 1810s had been partnership with two Glasgow-West India merchants in the 1810s, and that the cotton was likely from the West Indies.

When Livingstone returned from Africa to work at the mill he campaigned against slavery.

Scottish Wokies are also targeting Glasgow statues of: steam-engine pioneer James Watt; British Prime Minister Gladstone, whose father owned slaves; and of King William (William of Orange).
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April 6, 2022 5:18pm
- cmm
  
  Nothing, but nothing did more to eliminate slavery than the British Empire during the late 1800s and early 1900s.
  
  One of the biggest factors was the Brits kicking the Germans out of Africa during WW1. While the Germans were probably not active slavers at the time, they turned a blind eye to slavery carried out by the local inhabitants.
  
  Both my grandparents participated in this: one in South West Africa and the other in German East Africa.
  
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  April 6, 2022 5:58pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    The number of Royal Navy personnel that died serving in the W Africa Squadron fighting the slave trade was v high.
    
    Britain raised a loan equivalent to 40% of GDP to recompense the slave owners and this loan was only paid off at the end of the last century
    
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    April 6, 2022 6:52pm
Suze Wainwright

Is it just me, or are Labour ministers answering questions in the House with a bit more ‘urgency’ than they might have done in recent times…?
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April 6, 2022 6:32pm
Truman lodge

I see the Herald is conducting a mental health crusade on how to make us happier. That’s like a drug cartel doing research into how to become less dependent on drugs. Sick and shameful as their garbage promotes it..
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