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krazykiwi

My grandson was born in New Zealand
My son was born in New Zealand
I was born in New Zealand
My father was born in New Zealand
My grandfather was born in New Zealand
My great-grandfather was born in New Zealand
My great-great-grandfather was born in New Zealand
Yet not one of us was, or is, more deserving of special privileges than is a person who was just granted their citizenship.

This is the one New Zealand I want my family to live in.
One New Zealand free from racial bias.
One New Zealand free from divisive, separatist agendas.
And importantly, one New Zealand free from political leaders who covertly seek self promotion via these biases, and from these agendas.

Citizenship is the currency of entitlement. Ethnicity is not. It has never been. And any time in history ethnic privilege has been attempted things have gone up badly for everyone.

It’s time for National generally, and Mr Luxon specifically, to nail their colours to the mast. Either they support race-based privilege and separatist agendas, or they support liberal democracy. They can’t do both.
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April 1, 2022 8:02am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  I’ve always loved the fallacy of the excluded middle.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:03am
  - krazykiwi
    
    My middle is currently more exuded than it is excluded.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:41am
  - bjools
    
    The expression proves it’s existence and you attacking it gives the concept credibility.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:46am
- Surely Knott
  
  My great great grandfathers were also born in NZ. I would also add I have a monogamous relationship with NZ. I only pay taxes in NZ. I have my business in NZ. I volunteer in NZ. I only own property in NZ.
  My kids go to school in NZ. I hold no other passport. If a deadly virus, or an earthquake hits, or the economy gets worse – I don’t have a backup country to go to. I am a NZer.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:13am
  - ISeeRed
    
    Yep. No more “open marriages” for immigrants (dual citizenship). You either commit and you don’t.
    
    Also, no more voting rights for permanent residents. Utterly insane. What other countries offer that?
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:00pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  The National Party lists “Equal citizenship and equal opportunity” as one of its values, and Luxon has spoken several times about his belief that there should be one standard of citizenship for all New Zealanders.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:16am
  - Ehlana
    
    The first principle of the Labour Party is this:
    
    All political authority comes from the people by democratic means including universal suffrage, regular and free elections with a secret ballot.
    
    The last says this:
    
    The same basic human rights, protected by the State, apply to all people, regardless or race, sex, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, age, religious faith, political belief or disability.
    
    (https://www.labour.org.nz/party_info)
    
    And yet…
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:22am
    - bjools
      
      “All political authority comes from the people by democratic means including universal suffrage, regular and free elections with a secret ballot.”
      and they are in the process of changing the definition of all those words.
      
      It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.
      Joseph Goebbels
      
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      April 1, 2022 8:53am
    - Rumblestrip
      
      Some animals are more equal than others.
      
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      April 1, 2022 9:08am
  - cmm
    
    Do you believe that?
    
    If so here’s a challenge: The special Maori seats made some sense in the days when there was a land ownership requirement for voting and Maori were impacted because they traditionally did not own land.
    
    That ended on 19 December 1879 with the introduction of universal male suffrage. After that point there was no justification for separate Maori seats.
    
    No government, of any stripe, has had the balls to address that for over 140 years.
    
    If Luxon genuinely believes in equal citizenship then he will address this. Talk is cheap, action is what counts.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:23am
    - oldfella
      
      cmm: at this stage National plans to contest the Maori seats at the next election, which is ridiculous. They should reverse course and vow to scrap them as soon as they become the government.
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:31am
      - David Garrett
        
        oldfella: they did so vow in 2008…Once in government they not only reneged on that commitment but did a confidence and supply deal with the Maori Party.
        
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        April 1, 2022 3:02pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      That ended on 19 December 1879 with the introduction of universal male suffrage. After that point there was no justification for separate Maori seats.
      
      The fact is, Māori seats weren’t abolished, and it is now far too late for it to happen without Māori acquiescence. Get used to it.
      
      As I said to you last Saturday, “the Māori seats can only go when Māori say so. For me, that means when the quotient, as determined under section 45(3) of the Electoral Act 1993, falls to 3.50, or less. Following the 2018 update, the quotient is 7.23 (Māori Electoral Population = 473,077 / SI quota = 65,458 = 7.23). (See https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/number-of-electorates-and-electoral-populations-2018-census.)”
      
      Neither Bolger nor Key was prepared to unilaterally remove the Māori seats. Nor will Luxon. So forget your challenge, cmm; he will not be taking it up.
      
      He knows that, were he to do so, he would cause massive problems for his government, such that it just wouldn’t be worth the hassle.
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:50am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        If you could self-identify as a certain ethnicity, and people claiming to be of that ethnicity could get additional political power/influence over and above that of all other ethnicities, would you choose to give up that advantage?
        Would you be racist for allowing the status quo to continue, or would you simply be “looking after your people”?
        
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        April 1, 2022 11:41am
  - krazykiwi
    
    “The National Party lists “Equal citizenship and equal opportunity” as one of its values”
    
    Word are cheap.
    
    Show me the actions.
    
    Waiting ….
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:27am
    - Harriet
      
      The quality of life for most immigrants increases probably by a factor of 10. Their low wages are now supported by taxes, then they buy a house – with added debt.
      While you as a tax payer, worker and customer repeat yourself. And drive slowly.
      And pay for welfare in now, nearly every household.
      And some of those households send what are loosely described as ‘remittances’ overseas.
      You spend billions on ‘public education’ each year, for business to then turn their noses at it, and demand more immigration.
      Meanwhile your kids have to ‘take jobs and welfare’ or ‘take on debt and education ——– then take on a house.’
      
      The Westminster system of government has morphed into the Westminster system of welfare; Society pays taxes left, right and center, to prop up low incomes, and pay the people needed to deal with the consequences of ‘inequality as part of immigration policy’.
      
      ‘Big Society’ were one of the actions announced by National along the way.
      
      “Show us the value.” 😎
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:36am
      - cjn
        
        Harriet, As Remy said of the USA “We’re so underwater in debt, you’d swear Ted Kennedy was driving us home.” Same for us with a different driver.
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:00pm
  - Nickc2
    
    If so, that’s great. However, he needs to find a friendly Media outlet that’s not financially committed to supporting this Govt to get his opinion published widely and often.
    Good luck with that!
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:30am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Wasting your time Tony. It’s so repetitive two pieces of entertainment keep coming to mind these days when I see the comments – “Groundhog Day” and Queen’s song “I want it all and I want it now…..”
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:39am
    - Warren
      
      I actually think April the fourth will be a significant day for New Zealander’s when our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will announce changes to the traffic light system.
      You can just about bet your bottom dollar that Auckland will go Green and the rest of the Country will remain on orange, this will be payback for the lockdowns and the bribe to see the Auckland public return to vote for Jacinda.
      Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister thinks she is irreplaceable and God’s gift to New Zealand when really most people in New Zealand now think she is arrogant and out of touch with reality.
      
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      April 1, 2022 9:17am
      - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
        
        Warren bro – The sheeple of Auckland will dance in the streets and worship at the altar of Queen Jacinda. We are a shameless bunch of sheeple.
        
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        April 1, 2022 10:48am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Remain on orange? The whole country is still in red
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:19pm
  - Simon
    
    The National Party lists “Equal citizenship and equal opportunity”
    
    Lol – what fucking garbage. Monetary policy is the biggest driver of inequality , National have not spoken against any measures undertaken by RBNZ, such as the massive money printing. Nor have National said they will reform RBNZ.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:46am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Anyone who chooses yo can take the bull by the horns and get rich, throwing money at the bottom feeders without any type of help to improve does not help
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:24pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      You’re confusing inequality of outcome and inequality of opportunity, which is wrong, stupid, and a favourite trope of the left.
      
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      April 1, 2022 3:27pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, and why people can’t understand that he can’t comment on co governance, because this government has changed the meaning of it, and they refuse to tell us what it entails
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:17pm
- Unity
  
  Brilliant krazykiwi. You have said it exactly how it should be. We MUST work toward this. Actually many of us have been but it’s all fallen on deaf ears. Perhaps people will wake up before it’s too late.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:18am
- Scott
  
  Couldn’t disagree with you krazy. On this issue I think Luxon is keeping his powder dry.
  I do note that the National party has stated unequivocally that they will repeal and replace three waters. So they seem to be heading in the right direction.
  
  To be fair to Luxon I think that just running for office promising sound governance, balancing the budget, reining in wasteful government spending and promising law and order, would probably do the trick.
  
  Once in office I would like to see National repeal three waters, if it goes ahead and return to one rule of law for all. I don’t think that’s too much to ask?
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:22am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They have already ruled out 3 waters, they are putting up placards all over the country saying Nats will abolish 3 waters
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:26pm
  - leoj
    
    Keeping his powder dry?
    For what?
    This is such a defining issue. He has all the ammunition he needs to be shouting this injustice from the rooftops.
    No, Luxon is weak, woke , wet and slow.
    
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    April 1, 2022 7:15pm
- Colville
  
  KK
  Has he been in the job 4 months?
  And with 18 months yet to the election?
  I think you will find he has a plan to get up to speed on everything and focus on on not making any major fuckups in the remainder of the year.
  He knows that he will win the next election unless he gifts it to Labour by giving the media something to hang him with.
  The only flaw in his plan that I can see is ACT might end up with 20%.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Act will never get up to 20% look how many have gone back to Nats since Luxon has become leader, many Nat voters will vote for them simply because he is a successful businessman, something lacking the last 5 years
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:28pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Luxon has never been a businessman, successful or otherwise. A businessman risks their own capital; Luxon is a corporate salaryman and has never spent a dollar that he put at risk.
      
      It’s akin to saying Jacinda is a successful businesswoman because she worked in a fish and chip shop, which is a business.
      
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      April 1, 2022 3:30pm
    - leoj
      
      Luxon is not displaying near enough fire in his belly because he has none.
      
      It will be ACT dragging the Nats, kicking and screaming to the centre right.
      
      The Nats are so weak, they have no idea about their direction. Wet the finger, stick it in the air, see which way the wind is blowing. That is their only strategy.
      
      As Mrs Slocum would say: “Weak as dish water, WEAK as dish water!”
      
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      April 1, 2022 7:20pm
- Black with a Vengeance
  
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  Ayo where all da white women at ?
  
  Your dad, and sons didn’t born themselves…That you can’t even acknowledge your maternal line speaks volumes.
  
  You come across as an entitled stale pale fragile male who has taken his privilege for granted.
  
  There has always been 2 countries existing in this land. That of the colonizer and that of the indigenous.
  
  That’s great you want to live in citizenship of these colonized lands of your male forebears. I don’t, never have and never will.
  
  I exist in the other place. I belong to this place. I wasnt adopted into it. I did not choose what i wished it to be. I will always live in the everlasting embrace of my ancestors, the sky, the waters and the lands of Pasifika, here in Aotearoa and beyond. It is not the place you believe it to be nor wish it to be. It is not a place you belong.
  
  The sooner you accept that, the better the state of mind of your ancestors and progeny will be.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:12am
  - BeaB
    
    Pantheistic twaddle.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:10am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Would monotheistic twaddle be better?
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:19pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Yes, because it’s true – the monotheism part anyway.
        
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        April 1, 2022 2:19pm
  - Dodger
    
    Black V. you aren’t indigenous. Your forbears emigrated here, same as the rest
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:25am
    - Phronesis
      
      Many years ago as a child I was in the Smithsonian in Washington DC and there was a Moa as part of an exhibit. The small plaque noted that the Moa had been made extinct by the early settlers of NZ. I laughed and thought ha, the great Smithsonian has got that wrong. Of course the penny dropped and I realised that it was our propensity to refer to the european settlers of NZ as “the early settlers” that was confused.
      
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      April 1, 2022 1:37pm
  - oldfella
    
    Black, are you taking the p*ss with your comments? Sounds like it.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:34am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Here’s a quandrary for BwaV.
      My grandfather came to NZ in 1910. He came from Cornwall – his family had been there for about 200 years, being expelled from Scotland during the 17th.c. clearances – so he had 2 lines of Celtic ethnicity. 2 to 3 thousand years ago, the Phonaecians used to trade with the Cornish for tin, trading their pottery – remnants of which have been found by archeologists. The Phonaecians intermarried with the Cornish, giving them a thick set stature, and a light brown skin, and a slightly flat nose – as the Maori have.
      My grandfather learnt the Maori language within a year of being here becaause of where he worked – Te Kuiti and Rotorua on farms etc. Many Maori who got to know him thought he was Maori. I wonder how that plays out with BwaV’s racism – appearance is generally how we identify people, so perception becomes reality.
      Perhaps he protesteth too much – he may not be as pure as the driven snow as he proclaims. 😆
      
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      April 1, 2022 2:37pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      It’s usually best to ignore Brown with a Grievance, it pops up now and then like unwanted acne, but goes away if you ignore it.
      
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      April 1, 2022 3:36pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    Yo yo Black with a Vengeance. The white women are right here. Maternal lines are the same for me – NZers. But interestingly my children have a single Maori ancestor – their great great great grandmother, so they are Maori as it is defined in NZ . So we are a mixed family but also a split family if co-governance takes place. Although my part Maori husband has never received any form of voting information or survey documentation on the issues which Maori supposedly co-govern to ask his opinion. And as for hospitals in the south island that supposedly prioritise based on race to create “equality ” so my kids would watch their mother wait on a list because of her skin colour (although they have the same white skin colour and blue eyes)? Many of our Maori representatives have mixed family ancestory, how do they explain it to their white mothers or grandparent that they are not entitled to the same vote, some education or business opportunities etc, same priority of medical care. Where is the information about how co-governance works so people can make an informed vote. If I am not a full citizen in NZ is britain obligated to give me a passport? Race is not binary.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:39am
    - Nickc2
      
      Where is the information about how co-governance works so people can make an informed vote.
      What vote?
      IMO, there’ll be no vote. They wouldn’t dare. They will not only be soundly defeated but they will also be laughed off the planet and Cindy no doubt knows this or has been advised accordingly.
      If this drama comes to a head, David Seymour’s call for a Referendum should be implemented and the result of the Referendum should become binding on all parties for all time, whatever it is.
      If there’s no Referendum and Labour’s Maori Caucus intentions are implemented through Labour’s numbers in the Parliament, the Police will need a fucking big Riot Squad.
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:08pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Don’t forget Luxon has not ruled out a referendum, the media said he did, but the next day he said he would not rule out a referendum, but said there is no need for a referendum at this stage, once again became we don’t know what co governance means, it’s easy to say we know what it means, but as he says, co governance exists now, but it’s going to change, but we do not know what that means at present.
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:33pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Oh, yawn. I belong here no more or less than you do, and no more or less than a person who was granted their citizenship yesterday. I don’t assert ownership, or entitlement. You, on the other hand, do by trying to establish yourself as someone with spiritual land ownership in perpetuity. Ditch the nauseating, entitled racism and join the 21st century. You might like it.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:48am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      “I belong here no more or less than you do, and no more or less than a person who was granted their citizenship yesterday.”
      
      This is where I depart company with your argument. Citizenship is just a piece of paper. On the other hand, Nationhood is inherently comprised of a particular people in a particular land (the dreaded concept of “blood and soil” that we are encouraged to reject – for instance, our mike reflexively recoils at this idea). The Nation transcends the State that administers it, and citizenship is given by the State. Nationhood is fundamentally about “rootedness” and commonality of identity, genealogy and history, and the idea of a legacy between past, present and future. I would suggest that China and Israel are two excellent contemporary examples of this common-core principle. They are particularist societies, not universalist.
      
      In your comment at the top, you catalogue several generations of your local ancestors: do you not think that this establishes your bone fides as a “New Zealander” to a much greater extent than someone who came here from somewhere else 5 years ago? I do, and that has to be recognised and count for a lot.
      
      Our nation was legally founded in the early 19th century and, like it or not, forged by Anglo-Europeans and Maori. Numerically, the Europeans were more prevalent in its development and establishment, but I grudgingly include the ancestors of our friend Mr Vengeful above. By contrast, someone who rocks up last week from India, China, Morocco or wherever else can become a New Zealand citizen, but they will not be “New Zealanders” in the proper Nationhood sense. As an illustration, go to their countries of origin and make your universal “citizenship” case and they will laugh in your face. This distinction doesn’t entail any hostility towards them, but they should be seen as welcome guests at most. Perhaps these latter get closer towards assimilation to the nation as the generations go by, but it isn’t an on/off switch. I think they have to add to the fabric of the nation before they progress past mere citizens. Someone like Peter Theil is a “New Zealand Citizen” but is he a “New Zealander.” No, I don’t think he is.
      
      The problem with the proposed co-governance agenda is that Maori will unjustifiably dominate and exclude the Europeans whose ancestors built the country to a much greater extent, qualitatively and quantitatively. I have far less of an issue in principle with Maori and European “legacy New Zealanders” having more rights than our recent immigrant friends, which, again, is what you would likely find if you moved to their countries. The problem is Maori getting disproportionate privilege at European New Zealanders’ expense.
      
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      April 1, 2022 11:48am
      - krazykiwi
        
        “do you not think that this establishes your bone fides as a “New Zealander” to a much greater extent than someone who came here from somewhere else 5 years ago?”
        
        That depends on whether you consider a New Zealander to have different rights under law than does a New Zealand Citizen. If not, then you’re making a semantic argument which I broadly agree with.
        
        But if you are asserting that there are, or should be differences under law then I disagree with the distinction, primarily because it open up a can of worms around preference entitlement criteria which is pretty much where we are today with ethically-based assertion of property rights in perpetuity.
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:22pm
      - cmm
        
        Sorry, from personal experience I don’t buy that.
        
        I originally come from South Africa. My family went back there until at least 1820 – probably 1700s.
        
        I am white, English speaking. To white Afrikaners I was a foreigner and did not belong in South Africa. Only Boers (white Afrikaners) were true South Africans. I was a “sout piel” (salty dick): one leg in Africa, one leg in England and my dick hanging in the sea. Funny, since I’ve never been to England.
        
        To the Zulus I was “umlungu” – the white foam that blows in off the sea – a foreigner. But to Zulus anyone who is not a Zulu (or at least Xhosa) is a foreigner. Yet up to 18 I lived in the same area the Zulus lived in and could speak Zulu well (though not fluently) – much better than the average Zulu could speak English.
        
        So 30 years ago I came to NZ. I have lived most of my adult life here (almost 50% of my entire life). I have been a citizen since 1998 or so, at which time my South African citizenship was stripped. By this time next year I will have spent most of my life in NZ.
        
        How long before I am allowed to call myself a New Zealander?
        
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        April 1, 2022 1:17pm
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      Ayo KrazyKiwi
      
      Walk on to any Marae and tell me you feel you belong there. Tell everyone there you belong there, see how far that’ll get you with your one New Zealand bullshit.
      
      I don’t claim spiritual land ownership. I claim the sky, the waters and the earth own me. They are not my gods who created me. They are my ancestors I evolved from. Their spirit lives in me in perpetuity.
      
      I am intimately connected to them. I belong to them. I feel them in every fibre of my being. I am them.
      
      A pepeha reciting whakapapa isn’t to say that mountain, that river, that canoe, those people belong to us. It is to say we belong to those places. We are descended from them. They are not separate from us. They are us.
      
      From the past to the present to the future they exist in us. Perhaps that might be too foreign a concept for you to grasp but until you do, you will never belong here and this country will never belong to you.
      
      The 21st century means nothing. It’s a date you measure time by. It’s not how we measure time. For us time is not linear. Its not even cyclic. Time is life and it is not measured within the span of your or your male ancestors lives and when they arrived.
      
      Time started with the birth of our ancestors. The elements, the stars, the planets, the universe, life itself. They’re not from here either, but they left their mark here.
      
      I invite you to join us in sharing our ancestry and be connected to something beyond your ability to rationalize. You’ll love it!
      
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      April 1, 2022 6:56pm
      - Jack5
        
        🌴BWAV’s:
        
        I claim the sky, the waters and the earth own me. They are not my gods who created me. They are my ancestors I evolved from. Their spirit lives in me in perpetuity.
        
        Kava-influenced dreams and ravings, 🌴BWAV.
        
        Would your spirits show up under MRI? If they talk to you, would ultra sound pick up the chatter?
        
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        April 1, 2022 10:24pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        I just explained the evolution of life from the big bang to crawling out of the primordial swamp to eventually become human.
        
        Meanwhile you’re gonna vote for a crazy ballhead who thinks some Jewish guy created the universe, raised himself from death and is going to return in a giant city sized spaceship with a holy spirit as his 2IC.
        
        And you want to argue about our spirits you know even less about…
        
        Did you mix alcohol with your meds again ?
        
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        April 2, 2022 4:53pm
  - Harriet
    
    “….is not the place you believe it to be nor wish it to be. It is not a place you belong…..”
    
    Then stay in the fucken north island.
    
    And ya mates can stop trashing maori AND private land in the SI with their ice too. And they can get a job or go back up north. The trouble only started around 20yrs ago when they came south. The police aren’t going back. Or backwards any further.
    
    Actually — most of government can stay in the NI — as literally 9/10ths of the problems stem from the NI.
    
    Ngai Tahu people don’t have a history of behaving like this. 😎
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:16am
    - Aurelia
      
      Nobody has any idea what you are talking about.
      
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      April 1, 2022 1:22pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Including the author!
        
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        April 1, 2022 3:34pm
  - MiddleclassTrash
    
    I’m assuming that you also have European ancestors, as many dark skinned people do. Why not embrace their values & achievements as well. Together here we created a society (you could argue the first) without unfair favour. Structural equality is a fantastic, new & rare achievement. We have a good culture that I think the world has learned from, and that will continue to have a positive influence.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:26am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Ah the BAV I was here first its my ball angle. You never fail to confirm who and what you are.
    
    “an entitled stale pale fragile male” – hit the jackpot there BAV, a small phrase projecting all your insecurities on to others.
    
    Keep it up BAV – you are living in a potential paradise if only Labour and the rest of left who just stop destroying things. And all because my mothers countrymen and women came here and gifted the locals all the great institutions of Europe.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:57am
  - cjn
    
    You have point BWAV: Boys’ High School once published in their magazine two famous photos. The Hadlee family and the Maister family. Dad and sons. Old Boys. Not a woman in sight.
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:05pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    You live in cloud cuckoo land mate.
    
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    April 1, 2022 3:31pm
- RockyJ
  
  Great words Krazy. I have a similar lineage to you. James K Baxter described us as the masters of pig island.
  My grandfather’s grandfather fought against Maori in Taranaki.
  I am proud of that.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:15am
- john
  
  100% We can only be one
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:51am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Speaking of anonymous trolls KK, this is what Nicola says:
  Deputy leader Nicola Willis had no sympathy for the offender.
  “Here’s a clue, if you have to make up an identity and hide your name and face before you make a comment on social media, don’t do it,” she said.
  “If you’re not prepared to put your name to it then you’re just being a coward and you shouldn’t be doing it at all.”
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:04am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Dont cowards shoot innocent people across roads though Brian? Isn’t that really the definition of cowardice?
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:58am
  - cmm
    
    Moral guidance from Brian.
    Now there’s something of bugger all value.
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:21pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  If your not a Maori however vague your link you are a second class citizen in this country. A minority of Elites Maori, Political, Academic etc have decreed that only citizens who can claim some vague link are real citizens.
  As for the rest of you FOXTROT OSCAR back whence you came is their call.
  
  Time for the Revolution.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:22am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Well again, what is the policy snd wording of this, as usual, it’s all hidden, but Luxon has ruled out separately funded sectors of the community like the maori health board, if you haven’t yet, go check the interview with Tania Tapsell, and the racist Tukaki, what s wonderful speaker Tania is, she pointed out that many decisions in the community already have co governance decisions, like the the making Waikato river a living entity, she says wholesale governance will only make things worse for Māori and the community as a joke, and you want to watch the rotting mess that is Tukakis reply, an utter disgusting display from a government head, he then said Tania will be the Tauranga Nat candidate, she pulled him right up, and said I am a community councillor for the Rotarua council, snd she will not be standing in Tauranga, sadly, I just wonder if the Totarua MP may stand down, giving her a win in Rotarua next election, because he has been shafted n the pecking order, so it is possible
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:56am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    [don’t abuse the Mods for things which are WordPress issues and not KB issues – other Mod]
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:36pm
- ecco
  
  That would be political suicide for Luxon to do that with the hold Ardern has on the woke media, to start taking a stance on racial policies. If he has to be Labour lite, so be it. I couldn’t give a flying f**k if he’s labour lite as long as he gets into power.
  
  You just have to look at the hit pieces on National today in the Ferald to see that Ardern is still controlling the narrative. Nothing $110 m won’t buy.
  That new zero road toll policy is just a front to keep up the msm bribery. Apparently the covid advertising contracts were worth $35m. That’s on top of the straight out $110m bribe fund.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:24pm
mikenmildagain

Wishing a very happy 85th birthday to the Royal New Zealand Air Force.
Per Ardua ad Astra
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April 1, 2022 8:02am
- Simon
  
  Too bad the NZ air force wasnt at the Battle of Crete in 1941. Stuck back in the UK or Africa when they should have been with the NZ infantry.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:28am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Thank you Winston C …..
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:19pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I bet they would like some planes as a present.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:28am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    The RNZAF has planes, and helicopters too.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:32am
  - cmm
    
    Naah. Real planes are dirty.
    Just put your arms out and run around making machine gun noises.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:41am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Much cheaper that way, real bullets are expensive
      
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      April 1, 2022 8:52am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Did you ever see Seven Periods with Mr Gormsby?
      
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      April 1, 2022 8:52am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    There is little point in having any defence force if we have no combat capability in the air. Labour are treasonous.
    
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    April 1, 2022 9:32am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Plenty of countries have no air force at all, let alone an air-to-air combat capability. Lack of such hasn’t meant automatic defeat in dozens of modern wars.
      But the ditching of our air attack force is a good illustration of the mess our politicians consistently make of defence decisions. As is usual, a bad decision by one administration was not corrected by the succeeding administration, which happily went ahead with more bad decisions of its own.
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:26pm
      - cmm
        
        “Plenty of countries have no air force at all”
        
        A few Pacific islands, Iceland, Lichtenstein etc.
        
        Any we would consider peers?
        
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        April 1, 2022 1:32pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        To pick just one example, the Taliban needed no air force to defeat the US.
        
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        April 1, 2022 4:35pm
- bjools
  
  Air Force
  A contradiction in terms, or just another Helen Clsrk created joke?
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:57am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Just once, I’d like to see a hostile ship approach NZ under the impression our air force can’t attack anything.
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:31pm
    - Batman
      
      Yes we can but only if said ship is not equipped with anti-air, and not at any great speed!
      
      Then again, an NH-90 or seasprite can loiter from a fair distance and lob an anti-ship harpoon (I think they’re harpoons anyway).
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:46pm
    - bjools
      
      You really think they would attack without jets and with only one ship????
      Our Air farce wouldn’t last the first day.
      
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      April 1, 2022 2:03pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I must admit I was thinking of the periodic scare that a people-smuggling ship or resource poacher might be taught a lesson by an impatient government. Air power is at its most effective when striking defenceless targets.
        
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        April 1, 2022 4:37pm
Tomtoddy

I see that old Irishman Steven O’Regan picked up some sort a prize.
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April 1, 2022 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He was just presented a trophy – looks like a wooden knife block
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:10am
Captain Mainwaring

So the Irish racist Tipene O’Regan has been announced as New Zealander of the Year, or is this an April Fools joke?
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April 1, 2022 8:04am
- G152
  
  Near enough
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:18am
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner was wondering what Steve’s been doing in the last 12 months?
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:36am
  - Cassandra
    
    Same as he has always done, looking after his family. This plus his “Ta” is a reward for self-interest over a long period of time. Amazing. I should correct that: one part of his family. The Irish side got SFA.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:57am
- kowtow
  
  Incredible imbalance in the awards , if they were going for inclusion and / or diversity .
  
  Very woke .
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:17am
- oldfella
  
  I see he’s now called ‘Ta’ Tipene? Is ‘Ta’ Irish? /s
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:36am
- Philview
  
  Strange but years ago he had a high profile but I don’t recall him being in the news in the last 12 months. Who gets to chose the winner?
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:36am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  What the he’ll has O’regan done the last 20 years?
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:39pm
Yvette

“3 Waters” – 1

“We’re very clear that at the moment, our water governance and management is causing New Zealanders to get sick, it’s causing a future water bill for ratepayers that they cannot afford. We’re proposing reform to try and fix those problems,” Ardern said.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confirms-public-consultation-on-m-ori-co-governance-will-happen-in-2022.html

“Water governance and management is causing New Zealanders to get sick” relates, among other instances it seems, to A waterborne disease outbreak occurred in the town of Havelock North in the Hawkes Bay region of the North Island of New Zealand in August 2016. 5500 of the town’s residents became ill with campylobacteriosis, 45 were subsequently hospitalised, and there was a possible contribution to four deaths.

This is a crucial point it the health argument for “3 Waters”

However –
The new framework will be overseen by Taumata Arowai, the new and independent water services regulator.
Taumata Arowai became fully operational as the drinking-water regulator when the Water Services Act 2021 came into effect on 15 November 2021. Part 2A (Drinking Water) of the Health Act 1956 was repealed from this date.
Taumata Arowai has been developing new drinking water standards for water suppliers, which will replace the current Drinking Water Standards for New Zealand (DWSNZ) and come into effect on 1 July 2022.
The Ministry of Health will remain as the organisation in change of drinking-water policy, and will work closely with Taumata Arowai.
More information about Taumata Arowai and their regulatory role can be found on the Taumata Arowai website https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/environmental-health/drinking-water

Although Taumata Arowai is one of the few entities that Ardern’s Labour Government has delivered, trumpeting to herald it was foregone, because that would have emphasised something that partly bows “3 waters” ‘out of the water’.
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April 1, 2022 8:04am
- Cassandra
  
  Well, the current management is making me sick, so she’s right.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:58am
- Raphael
  
  The government is still forging ahead with their 3 Waters plans regardless of what the Media is reporting and the legal challenges.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:14am
  - oldfella
    
    Raphael, relax. Tuku Morgan says co-governance offers best water asset protection because Māori will never sell. And Tuku is a man of his word and can always be trusted.
    Mr Tukoroirangi Morgan spent nearly £40 on the underpants, and a further £1,700 on other clothes at the appropriately named Auckland boutique Politik two weeks before last October’s election. Staff at the TV station, including those who appeared on camera and could claim to need a clothing allowance, have since revealed the frugality of their expenses.
    The station, funded as part of the state’s legal duty to keep the Maori language alive, has had its backing withdrawn since the revelations and now looks certain to close.
    
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/underpants-spree-targeted-1.43968
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:47am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Oh but he was in NZF, corruption is fine then
      
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      April 1, 2022 1:05pm
- C-Town
  
  It’s very cunning of the Government to give the new water services regulator a Te Reo name. Although its been common in the past few decades for Government organisations to have an English name and a Te Reo alternative. This new organisation has a Te Reo name only, which is going to disengage the 97% of the population who don’t speak Te Reo. And in doing so, most of the population won’t bother paying attention to it, so then they can do what they like without much scrutiny.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:43am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The havelock water contamination was due yo inept staff leaving the lid off the bore, sheep shit was washed into the bore in the flood, so what does this have to do with on going water quality in that area?
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:41pm
  - DeepBlue
    
    Nothing. Those same staff will still leave the lid off the bore as they will be employed by the new four megasquirt orgs.
    
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    April 1, 2022 2:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Ramadan Mubarak
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April 1, 2022 8:05am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Starts tomorrow, doesn’t it? Be careful though, Don Beckett might denounce anything Islamic as devil worship.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:11am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Now why would I do that? This is a free country isn’t it? I mean – it was till Stalinda started to Ardernise it into a socialist shithole (not yet achieved though)
    If the Muslims want to attend their Ramadan fast, that is their right – even if I disagree with it.
    It is merely a bogus imitation of the Christian Lent period leading up to the Paschal Mystery of Easter.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:08am
    - artemisia
      
      Speaking of Christians, haven’t seen KevOB for a while. Any word?
      
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      April 1, 2022 11:36am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Ah Easter. Itself derived from Judaism and traditional pagan spring festivals.
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:41pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        You obviously don’t realise that Christianity is the fulfilment of the Jewish first Covenant, and grew out of Judaism (obviously traditional Jewish religious people do not believe that) so the Jewish roots of Christianity are all part of the deal. And the pagan spring festivals – because the Europeans adopted Easter for the name of the festival from the hare that belonged to the Saxon goddess doesn’t mean it is part of the Christian Easter – it’s called ‘Inculturation’. (or Cultural Appropriation if you like 😆 )
        
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        April 1, 2022 2:46pm
- Scott
  
  Or we do have some traditional religious event coming up fairly shortly. We could celebrate that? Just an idea.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:25am
Tomtoddy

Some tax changes today. Here are a few interesting thoughts.

10% of Kiwis in the $100,000 income and above bracket paid 43% of the income tax last year. 60% of us on $40,000 or less paid 13% of all income tax.
The 10% are paying approx. the same amount of total GST as the 60% allowing for savings, no GST on rent etc.

There will be plenty of silly talk today with the tax changes that the wealthy don’t pay enough tax to support the low income. Those claims look sick when you realise that almost half of the tax take comes from 10% of the population. As many countries have found you can end up killing the goose that is laying your gold eggs, unless they fly away first.

By the way a solo mum picks up an extra $80 a week today compared to a low income family of Mum, Dad and three kids who get an extra $40 a week. We have strange values in this country. Someone should mention you tend to get more of what you pay for.
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April 1, 2022 8:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Those on superannuation get the usual – sweet fuck all. Fuel, fruit, veges, meat, still cost the same.
  Eye fillet steak, $68 per kilo! Cabbage, sometimes $9
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:14am
  - Prince
    
    I have to admire the media citing the Labour Govt budget as reason for the Super increase today.
    Of course Super increases every year based on a % of average wage increase, but hey, if there’s a chance Labour can claim credit, they will.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:30am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I thought all benefits were increased from today, Steve. Was the old age pension excluded?
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:35am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Super is not a benefit, it is income. That’s why I was paying secondary tax on super when I was still working
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:38am
      - Wayne Mapp
        
        Steve,
        
        As you well know, you don’t pay secondary tax as such. All your income is added up (including National Super) and taxed at the relevant tax for that level of your income. If there has been a double deduction on any income you get it back when you do your end of year return.
        
        I was earning additional income (salary) when I first got National Super. The PAYE tax deductions from my salary did not increase.
        
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        April 1, 2022 10:55am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Wayne, I was paying secondary Tax. Since stopping work I have changed my Super Tax to ‘M’
        The way that worked well was for the last 5 years I received a very handsome Tax return.
        Would still be working if the employer’s lease had not expired and landlord would not renew. Very had to find another building that suits the product I made. All assets gone into storage, not sold.
        
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        April 1, 2022 11:44am
      - Batman
        
        Sorry to break it to Steve O but the superannuation is classified as one of the main benefits.
        
        So while they’re called superanuitants to make them feel better, they’re beneficiaries.
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:04pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Batman, try telling WINZ that it is a benefit and see where that gets you. I see what you mean, as it is money from the Taxpayer, but WINZ are adamant it is not a benefit. Check WINZ website, it is in there.
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:25pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        This is why I went from 40 hours to 32, Taxman was going to slam me.
        Just to clear that Tax Code thing up:
        Table One.
        
        Table 1: Find out if NZ Super is your main or secondary income
        The amount you get from NZ Super NZ Super
        It’s more than you earn from your wages or salary.
        ‘Main income’
        
        It’s less than you get from your wages or salary.
        ‘Secondary income’
        https://www.govt.nz/browse/tax-benefits-and-finance/tax/choose-the-right-tax-code-for-your-nz-superannuation/
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:35pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “Someone should mention you tend to get more of what you pay for”
  
  Exactly.
  
  If you reward complacency and self-entitlement you get more complacent, self-entitled people. This is the result of decades where political leaders have pork barreled their way to power safe in the knowledge that no profligatory action on their part will damage their double platinum superannuation entitlements.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:24am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  TAX refugees, the super rich are already TAX resident off shore.
  
  As the TAX system becomes more oppressive more will follow.
  
  Capital flight is a big problem for tyrannical regimes, sooner or later currency controls are required.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:25am
- cmm
  
  Indeed.
  
  When I arrived in NZ almost 30 years ago there was pride in this being the land of Number 8 wire.
  
  Now it’s the land where people go down to WINZ and fill out form Number 8 for extra entitlements.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yup, if you can’t fix it with Number 8 it’s not worth fixing – even at WINZ
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:55am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Just add to that. When I was a kid living in the sticks, I made hooks out of number 8 so I could catch eels.
      
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      April 1, 2022 8:57am
  - kowtow
    
    And they have to get past the security guard first .
    
    Wonder how much that contract is costing the taxpayer.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:58am
- Phronesis
  
  A solo mum now makes more per week in the hand than a first year teacher with a degree who is repaying their student loan. The teacher spent three years unpaid getting the degree and will likely only ever earn 1.5x their starting salary. It must take at least 10 years for the teacher to start to get ahead, ironically assuming they don’t take time off to have their own children.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:07am
graham

Is Auckland Transport the most arrogant organisation in New Zealand right now? (And that’s a pretty high bar to attain).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-transport-to-push-ahead-with-plans-to-remove-on-road-parking-spaces-despite-opposition/6MF5CTI34H26Y4R24J37JXMEXA/

A high-ranking bureaucrat at Auckland Transport says the council-controlled organisation will not back down on plans to remove parking spaces for cycleways and bus lanes.

“We do have a predetermined agenda. Our predetermined agenda is to create easy journeys for Aucklanders,” AT’s head of integrated network planning Andrew McGill told the Herald.

“We are not going to back down simply because somebody is not going to like it,” he said.

Ahh, this is going beyond somebody “not liking it”, you arrogant man. This is small businesses saying it will kill them. On top of Covid-19, rising fuel costs, freight and supply issues, and an increase to the minimum wage, you are now taking away the parking spaces used by their customers.

When the Herald told McGill that Pirie (a butcher in Mount Eden) needed parking spaces for his shop to survive, he said: “That is his opinion and I don’t necessarily agree with that. There are lots of situations where businesses can continue to thrive and survive where they don’t have a car park right out the front of the shop.”

Watvhing an interview with this odious creep, he said that people are just upset because it represents change, but it’s necessary, and once we plebs understand the rationale we’ll change our minds. May I just say, Mt McGill that that is your opinion and I don’t necessarily agree with that.

The arrogance of Andrew McGill, which is typical of the arrogance of Auckland Transport, is simply stunning.

I am now more determined than ever to actively avoid using public transport where-ever possible, if for no other reason than out of sheer spite. The last time I caught a bus was 15 months ago, and I certainly haven’t missed the experience. And although I am a cyclist, I will make a point of not using any new cycleways that these idealogical nitwits install; where I see a new cycleway I will make a point of cycling on the road. Childish? Yes. Spiteful? Certainly. But I’ve had it with these idiots. I cannot stand these superior bureaucrats who insist they know best, have this warped idea that our public transport will magically become as successful as, say, Greater London under their watch, and are quite prepared to ride roughshod over everybody and never mind the consequences.
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April 1, 2022 8:06am
- pdm
  
  `Is Auckland Transport the most arrogant organisation in New Zealand right now? ‘
  
  Hell graham I thought the government had that award sewn up
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:31am
- potato
  
  Democracy is broken when these unelected bureaucrats make decisions with no repercussions, The county is overrun with them, I wonder if a ban on importing clip boards could slow their spread
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:33am
  - Harriet
    
    I’d just bolt a bicycle stand to the footpath across the entire front of my shop. With a dogs not welcome sign also.
    
    With an add on the radio reminding the council they can’t have it both ways – and hence the compromise. 😎
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:34am
- alex Masterley
  
  I was involved in the community consultations for the proposed New North Road “upgrade” that AT is promoting.
  Oddly I was the only non-cycling type involved. Everyone else from the AT staff to the locals (or at least i think they were locals) were cycling and public transport nutters.
  What I as a small business owner myself found annoying was the sneering and dismissive attitude of the AT people and the cycling nutters to the small business people – dairy owners, hardressers, cafes bars etc whose business activities will be affected by the “upgrade”.
  That attitude is front and center with Mr McGill.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:41am
  - graham
    
    If AT tend to get cycling nutters involved (I don’t count myself as one, by the way; I do cycle but for exercise rather than recreation), how on earth do they get it so horribly wrong?
    
    The cycle lane that was added to Richmond Road, near the Surrey Crescent end, going through the local shops there, is abysmal. I think I tried to use it a couple of times, and gave up. It is practically unuseable, thanks to it veering in and out to swerve around traffic islands and weave between carparks, and bloody dangerous as it threads between angled carparks and the footpath. So when a driver parks up, they have to cross the cycle lane to get to the footpath! It’s dreadful.
    
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    April 1, 2022 9:20am
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      Clearly the Auckland cycle lanes are modelled on Wgtn ones
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:46am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  When I lived in Auckland I used to frequent a lovely restaurant in Mt. Eden Road. To do this it was necessary to park on the street as going there by bus was not an option.
  How is this restaurant and the many others in that street going to survive?
  BTW I saw that clown McGill on TV and a more arrogant idiot I haven’t seen for a very long time.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:42am
- Ruawai
  
  Silly me, I thought there was a period of consultation on the proposed AT parking removals on arterial routes, looks like there is no point putting in a submission as Mr McGill is going to enact his plan regardless of other peoples opinions.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:53am
  - Matt Long
    
    Sounds like you are getting an understanding of what consultation means, like with 3 waters and the councils.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  AT is part of the overall Govt of NZ. Same with Watercare etc etc
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:59am
- Ruahine
  
  Bernard Orsman the Auckland Council embeded ‘journalist’ deigns not to name ‘a high ranking bureaucrat’ in his breathless article about how people will be bullied and bossed by the ruling elites because it is for their own good.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:08am
- Tom Hunter
  
  The thing that really kills me is that there is no vote I could cast, either nationally or locally, that would make any difference to this.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:16am
- I remember when
  
  Saves a lot of consultation a “predetermined agenda.”
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:40am
- GJM
  
  AT have form in this. They blocked off part of the main street of Pukekohe “for a trial” which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The idea being that people will walk everywhere.
  For those who haven’t been to pukekohe, it is not longer the sleepy little country town it was when we moved out this way 45 years ago. It is a busy place.
  It caused major traffic conjestion, traffic accidetnts, the shops couldn’t get deliveries and there was a big outcry. The shops had no customers, especially for places liek Woofles that sells dog food, where people stop, call in and go and don’t want to carry a bag of dog bones to the other end of town. Some of the concrete blocks were moved out of the way by some public spirited citizens, with much screeching from AT about prosecutions.
  They eventually backed down, when it was apparent even their fake consultation was giving the wrong answer no matter how much they spin it
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:54am
- Rich Prick
  
  He would do well to take a drive along Island Bay’s Parade to see what cycling lunacy does to small businesses.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:56am
- kowtow
  
  Two members of the Maori Statutory Board were part of the 13 to 10 endorsing .
  
  Wot part of the treaty covered parking spaces ?
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:48am
- MCōs
  
  “I am now more determined than ever to actively avoid using public transport”
  Translation
  “I never use public transport”
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:02pm
  - graham
    
    It appears you missed the sentence where I stated:
    
    The last time I caught a bus was 15 months ago …
    
    So you are incorrect in your “translation”.
    
    I’m unsure quite how you missed that sentence, however, as it comes directly after the one you quoted …
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:32pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The Left’s blend of arrogance and incompetence makes for the perfect cnut. Predicting what they will do next makes the difference between winning and losing but there are few winners and many losers. Emigration has never looked so rational.
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:22pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  I’ve already made the point above that there seems to be no voting option that can stop this sort of shit.
  
  This is not a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face or “allowing the other side to win”. Having a National-led government won’t change this in any way at all.
  
  But I would like to know what the reason is for National’s refusal to get into Local Body elections and whether that’s going to change?
  
  DPF? Tony Stuart? Any other plugged-in National Party person who could answer that question on this forum? Frankly it should be a post here at KB.
  
  I can see why it might have made sense decades ago when Local Government meant little more than looking after water, waste treatment, streets and parks. But following the passage of the Local Government Act in 2002, which vastly broadened the scope of such government, and with the creation of the Auckland Super City, which has such a massive impact on New Zealand, I think National’s reluctance is very wrong.
  
  There is shit constantly being pulled by Left-wing dingbats at the local government level all the time, including when National are in government. In fact I always reckoned that the fundamental purpose of the 2002 LGA was to enable Left-wing ideas to be implemented around NZ even when Labour was not in power.
  
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  April 1, 2022 1:36pm
Simon

The vaccination is safe and effective.

Biden’s CDC Director: “Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick”

https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1509206752780238851

From one year ago today. How appropriate.
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April 1, 2022 8:07am
- krazykiwi
  
  There are some great mashups of various elites making complete fools of themselves with these kinds of statements.
  
  No one with their eyes open can claim the current vaxxes are ‘safe’, and their ‘effectiveness’ appears mainly in neutering critical thought.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:31am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda will tell you the ‘vaxxes’ are safe – in a roundabout word soup waffle way
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:39am
- Batman
  
  Wow, shocking stuff Simon.
  
  Now, can you give us a list and timeframes for new covid variants and match that up with this statement from March 2021?
  
  No? Oh, how funny…..
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:06pm
Yvette

“3 Waters” – 2

“We’re very clear that at the moment, our water governance and management is causing New Zealanders to get sick, it’s causing a future water bill for ratepayers that they cannot afford. We’re proposing reform to try and fix those problems,” Ardern said.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confirms-public-consultation-on-m-ori-co-governance-will-happen-in-2022.html

“… management is causing New Zealanders to get sick …” addresse water quality
but “it’s causing a future water bill for ratepayers that they cannot afford” raises another matter, as yet unexplained –

In the case of a water main exploding in a Wellington street – and there is one which I have seen now on TV1 News at least three times, same one, in relation to “3 Waters” reports – when that is fixed, and it seems to need to be soon, so we don’t see it yet again, in detail how will it’s repair be attended to –
1 – under the present system
2 – under “3 Waters”

and will the same contractor to do the actual repair be used in both cases?
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April 1, 2022 8:07am
Captain Mainwaring

Spindy has announced that now is not the time to cut taxes.
Of course it’s not. These things must be saved for election year.
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April 1, 2022 8:08am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How will we know when Jaspinda does cut Taxes? She talks in word soup waffle
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:15am
- Prince
  
  Something the cheerleading media won’t tell you.
  
  Govt debt $141B.
  $77K per household.
  Growing at $83M per day !
  Govt spends $83M each day more than it ‘earns’ !
  Not a time for tax cuts, but a time to reward people who don’t earn !
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:34am
  - Nickc2
    
    The trouble is Prince that most people don’t realise they get what they voted for.
    If I owed $77k and had no ability to repay it other than stealing it off other people or waiting until inflation overtook it, I’d be in jail.
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:07pm
Paulus

Happy April Fools Day.
The top of the list is the Labour Government.
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April 1, 2022 8:09am
- ClanMcleod
  
  If only it was a practical joke and we wake up and it was a bad dream.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:16am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    The joke’s on us CMM, only it’s not funny at all.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:05am
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/property-report-auckland-house-prices-fall-for-first-time-in-two-years/EY64IKJ2AUTKLNN75LMMHITU6A/

MaggiePie’s comments about Mt Roskill having an effect.
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April 1, 2022 8:11am
- skyblue
  
  With all the foreign gentlemen there it should change its name to Mt Mosquel.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:10am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Mt Rascal
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:50pm
Warren

While Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister sits back giving interviews on why tax cuts won’t work by saying $2.00 won’t shift the dial and its not the right time, she continually to just waste and throw money at those less fortunate whilst hard working families go out and work for their money that earns them a better living but penalizes them because they are in a higher tax bracket.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300555470/wont-shift-the-dial-jacinda-ardern-on-why-its-not-the-right-time-for-tax-cuts
There is always a plan in Jacinda Ardern’s world but never a solution as the Prime Minister is out of touch with reality and to arrogant to listen.
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April 1, 2022 8:11am
Tony Stuart

Interesting to her the markets guy on Newstalk ZB this morning advise that oil is down to $108 a barrel, well down from the $135-plus in the immediate aftermath of the Russian invasion on Ukraine. But you can bet that Labour’s Ministers will continue to argue that the war in Ukraine is causing inflation in New Zealand to go to levels unheard of for 30 years.
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April 1, 2022 8:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  We all know that Labour ALWAYS blames someone/something else
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:16am
  - pdm
    
    Nine long years of neglect – 1999 to 2008 – maybe Steve.
    
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    April 1, 2022 8:33am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Just don’t tell Labour – they are useless with numbers, but will Google that and refude it
      
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      April 1, 2022 8:43am
- Nickc2
  
  ….and the NZ Dollar to become more worthless than confetti. As the price of oil decreases, so does the value of the NZ Dollar.
  Well done Robbo – NOT!
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:00am
  - rockape
    
    I don’t know, when I arrived in NZ my pound bought 4 dollars now it’s less than two. Do you wonder why no one sees NZ as cheap anymore. My house too is worth enough for me to buy an equivalent in the UK and bank 500k for my old age!
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:03pm
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/audrey-young-stark-contrast-in-political-management-as-aussie-election-nears/GCAMGE74UGNHABL3Q6VAOYUSXI/

LOL. Did the Glorious Leader’s media team write that article?
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April 1, 2022 8:14am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Pity it’s paywalled, would be a good read
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:44am
artemisia

And in housing news from the media today. Not a joke.

Wellington a buyers market. Average asking price over a mill, yoy up 17%, yoy listings up 158%. Auckland heading for a buyers market but with yoy listings only up 30%. Listings nationally up 32%.

Meanwhile for the third of New Zealanders renting, TradeMe reports yoy number of rental vacancies down 6% yoy, median rent at a record high. And most landlords plan to increase rents this year (Tony Alexander).

So to join some dots. Some of those homes for sale will be people selling up and leaving the country. But reasonable to assume about a third of homes for sale are rentals, either vacant or soon to be.

Holding costs of rentals have increased dramatically with more to come. Same with increased restrictions on the ability of landlords to manage their own assets, and more to come probably. Social housing waiting list 26,329 up 20,976 from June 2017,. No doubt with more to come.

Did I mention more to come?

New builds for sale increasing month by month (TradeMe). Developers having a few sleepless nights. Looks like more to come.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/128225434/wellington-a-buyers-market-for-first-time-in-eight-years

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/trade-me-rent-data-massive-annual-jump-in-rents-in-february-as-survey-finds-most-landlords-plan-more-big-hikes-this-year.html
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April 1, 2022 8:14am
Cassandra

Auditor General has released a report on $290 million in funding allocated to tourism businesses by a committee of Labour MPs. Applicants not required to submit financial detail, records not kept, no criteria for Maori businesses. Treasury and other departments’ advice was not followed. Frequently the MPs awarded more money than asked for. No evidence of kickbacks reported. The first award was to Whalewatch Kaikoura which applied by letter with no supporting documents or financial analysis. Questions for oral answer on Tuesday will be interesting, supposing Parliament is sitting. How will the Speaker deny an urgent debate, I wonder? No doubt he’s working that out this weekend.
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April 1, 2022 8:17am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Why does Ngai Tahu need a gift to its Whalewatch Kaikoura operation? As a large corporate entity it could and should be able to ride out any downturns and also self fund any expansion of its business.
  
  Its almost graft giving tax payers hard earned coin to that operation
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:08pm
  - Nickc2
    
    In the interests of truthfulness, you should remove the word ‘almost’ from your last sentence.
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:55pm
Mr_Blobby

Has the Tyrant gone on holiday again.

Or is it that there is no good news as the wheels continue to fall off the covid fear train.

Maybe the economic and social reality of the mess they have created is starting to sink in, nah.

When you have lied so much and changed your story so often, it can be hard to keep up with the narrative.

A priority must be to get rid of all the archival footage.

So what’s the plan again, it looks like there is no plan, again.

The prime minister in witless protection.

Ministers that look like possums caught in a headlight.

Covid survivors walking around wondering was that it, what was all the fuss about.

At the other end still a depressingly large group of people living in absolute fear that if they catch covid they will die. And they probably will if they don’t catch covid and start developing some natural immunity.
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April 1, 2022 8:21am
- marcw
  
  It’s an enormous irony that with Poto Williams’ support, the Commissioner of Police is in witless protection also.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:39am
G152

And just priced those basic startup jobs away from the people starting out.
Plenty of room on the dole though
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April 1, 2022 8:22am
Simon

Standing before an American court convicted of the most heinous of child sex crimes, Australian citizen Mark Newton and his long-term boyfriend Peter Truong had their double lives laid bare.

Moments later Newton was sentenced to 40 years in prison for sexually abusing the boy he and Truong, 36, had ”adopted” after paying a Russian woman $8000 to be their surrogate in 2005.

Police believe the pair adopted the boy ”for the sole purpose of exploitation”.

The abuse began just days after his birth.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/couple-offered-son-to-paedophiles-20130630-2p5eg.html

From 2013.

Putin due to this case banned gay couples from adopting adopting/surrogating Russian children.

The Obama regime was ok with Russia – see 2012 election against Romney – but not from 2013 onwards.
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April 1, 2022 8:25am
- Batman
  
  Simon this is a particularly disgusting smear, even for your usual low standards.
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:08pm
nathie

When Jacinda Ardern said to Patrick Gower during a 2017 election leader’s debate that she believed that it was possible “to be in politics and not tell lies” …. was the rest of the answer meant to have been “because I am good at spinning answers and deflecting the truth”?

We will never know because Paddy never asked Ardern to justify her original response … instead the MSM went into “luuvvy overdrive” hyping up NZ’s first ever “honest” politician!

(But we know don’t we … all of Ardern’s “refutes” and “denials” of the obvious, and her refusal to ever acknowledge ever being wrong when the evidence shows otherwise, highlights her original statement to Gower to be an absolute howler of a lie)!
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April 1, 2022 8:32am
- Ra Henare
  
  Shame she didnt add. But I am not one of those people…
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:19am
- Local Miller
  
  When Ardern said it was possible “to be in politics and not tell lies” she wasn’t talking about herself, she just said it was possible.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:17am
Yvette

“3 Waters” – 3

Oddly co-incident to my writing the above comment, “3 Waters – 1 above, 1-News now carries an article “Drinking water chlorination amongst Three Water changes underway” which says –

… behind the scenes is the creation of a new water regulator Taumata Arowai, which from [last] November started overseeing drinking water rather than health authorities.

The third aspect of the reforms is legislation passed last year, the Water Services Act 2021. The Havelock North gastroenteritis outbreak in 2016 that left thousands ill and four people dead is what sparked the Three Waters reforms.

,,, Tasman Mayor Tim King says not enough people know about the impact of the changes …
“I think the Water Services Act is probably one of the most significant bits of legislation and unfortunately it’s sort of got lost amongst everything else.” [1]

Why was it lost?
Because Taumata Arowai, an entity independent of the other “3 Waters” entities, is the crux of establishing ‘3 Waters’, so having been established, reduces the rest of “3 Waters” to looking after the plumbing, which Maori may not be quite so interested in?
Taumata Arowai is the Ring To Rule Then All?

Why was it lost?
This heart of “3 Waters” could easily have been advertised on television instead of a few Changing Speed Limits (The Rubbish Ones, The Shit Ones) ads.

[1] https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/31/drinking-water-chlorination-amongst-three-water-changes-underway/
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April 1, 2022 8:33am
Tony Stuart

Kudos to National Party president Peter Goodfellow, the Board and to Christopher Luxon for hosing down the online trolling story in double-quick time. The two Young Nats involved were spoken to by an unnamed Board member, read the riot act, and have resigned from the party.

Compare that to Labour’s response to allegations of indecent assaults at their summer camp a few years ago. Their reluctance to comment allowed the story to fester and to stay in the media for weeks. It eventually led to the resignation of Labour’s president.

What National did yesterday was classic crisis management. They responded quickly, and have effectively distanced themselves from the people involved. There will be little, if any blowback. Who knows, Megan Woods might even compliment them on the speed with which they shut down people anonymously abusing her which would be quite ironic, given one of the victims of the summer camp turned to Woods when the Labour Party hierarchy seemed not to be taking the allegations seriously.
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April 1, 2022 8:38am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Just like the Republicans have RINOs, National seems to have NINOs
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:46am
- Warren
  
  Tony did you not hear Megan Woods on last night’s news, if this had been Labour we would have fixed it before it got out of hand,the Labour Party does not tolerate abuse to anyone.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:53am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Oh really?
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/115751933/labour-was-warned-it-had-a-major-problem-before-summer-camp-scandal
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:06am
- Tricati
  
  The two young Nat’s are just tools, but I get a bit suspicious when Megan Woods, Sara Templeton and Pallet are involved, given they are all in the Labour (People Choices) group that have had dubious interventions in both local and general democratic processes here in Christchurch.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:58am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Pallet will be history next year when the good folk of Ilam come to their senses and kick her to the curb. Unfortunately Megan Woods will be harder to shift as the People’s Republic of Wigram is Labour heartland, ever since the days of Jim Anderton.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:08am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Personally, I thought the the so called mysoginistic trolling was actually quite funny.
  I’ve already sent the one about the ‘Pork Board Advertisement’ to a lardo at work.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:04am
  - Batman
    
    I’m sure your HR department will be in touch soon. 🤣
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:10pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      You need to come up to speed Batsy!
      HR has now been replaced by P&C….’Performance and Culture’
      
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      April 1, 2022 2:14pm
  - I remember when
    
    When is it mysoginistic and when is it just plain old political trolling?
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:10pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  The media worked extra hard to link it to Luxon and Collins by showing photos of the property owner with them.
  
  From what I’ve seen, the property owner guy had absolutely nothing to do with it but he’s the one they went after hard. Incredibly unethical.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:09am
- kowtow
  
  Plenty of media coverage of who and what were behind it.
  
  I’ve never seen anything from the media pardy on what appeared to be a villification campaign against Bridges on facebook .And it worked , he was rolled.
  
  There’s surely a story behind that .
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:21am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Now we know how to do it; go to the Court and seek an order under the Harmful Digital Communications Act to pinpoint the source of the smear.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:09am
    - marcw
      
      The HDC Act has been in force for years – this is why I fail to understand all the palava about why the so called ‘hate speech’ suggested law is necessary. The solutions already exist, both with online abuse and the other existing laws to deal with inciting violence. Less hui and more doey would seem to be a solution, as has worked in this case.
      At this stage, it does also appear that the IP address owner may possibly be an unfortunate victim of circumstances, but the fact that he has also resigned helps put a line under the stupidity that is online abuse.
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:54am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    So, National roll over and apologise when their opponents get upset? Again. Letting your opponents police your behaviour isn’t a winning strategy. So some female leftist public figures got upset – shouldn’t that be the goal?
    
    The left see politics as adversarial and essentially “us versus them.” National have a misguided notion that the essence is “consensus.” National are playing a different game than the left, and they are losing badly. If the roles were reversed, it’s very difficult to imagine that the left would be groveling to National. The left got some scalps here, while National lost.
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:22pm
- Than
  
  Yep.
  
  As I’ve said before when these types of scandal crop up, in any large organization instances of bad behaviour are inevitable over time. That is simply a statistical reality. What matters is (A) does the organization’s culture encourage or discourage these behaviours, and the related point (B) how does the organization handle these behaviours when they happen.
  
  In this instance National has done the right thing and made it clear that these actions were unacceptable. In complete contrast to Labour’s last few scandals, where their sole focus was on covering things up. Labour talks all woke and virtuous about not tolerating bullying and harassment, but every time their actions show otherwise.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:22am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    See my reply to Warren above, and the link. Labour was aware it had a culture problem involving bullying and sexual harassment well before the infamous summer camp, but did nothing about it.
    
    On the other hand, Chris Luxon told Kate Hawkesby this morning that he spent time over the summer recess from Parliament working on a Code of Conduct for the National Party. I’m sure his motivation in doing that was largely to rein in caucus, but it’s a no-brainer that people who bring a party into disrepute are going to get the arse card; in National, at least.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:14am
    - I remember when
      
      Tony Stuart:
      It has to be the don’t come Monday card.
      Once discovered there is no political future anyway.
      
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      April 1, 2022 1:14pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Quite so.
        
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        April 1, 2022 5:24pm
  - marcw
    
    Don’t forget the ongoing festering scab that is Trevor Mallard and the case of the Parliamentary staffer he defamed. How much more is that going to cost us, not to mention to the personal cost of the person that had their career ruined.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:59am
- Paulus
  
  Who did the Labour Party use to trace the stupid use of Woods trolling computer person ?
  I don’t think that you and I can do it – all computers have an identity number anyway.
  Did they use their own hackers or the Police or say the SIS to get the information?
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:55am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Let’s see the pattern of abuse that was employed:
  
  1. At first, I received several normal, sort of, trolling comments on my page
  
  2. “But it got worse and then they started making personal comments and asking what menstrual products I used, whether they were eco-friendly, those kind of things.
  
  3. They then started a targeted, online harassment campaign on their own and other people’s pages,
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/464375/national-launches-troll-hunt-online-abuse-unacceptable
  
  Now anyone can check that that is a pretty similar pattern to the abuse I received on this blog.
  
  And if I can plagiarise Nicola Willis’ statements:
  
  If you have to make up an identity and hide your name and face before you make a comment on social media, don’t do it. It is unacceptable. People shouldn’t hide behind fake identities to harass and bully others.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:57am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    [No Mike, you two don’t need another round of handbags over that. Any user is free to contact DPF regarding the comments policy – Mod]
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:33pm
Ehlana

Sadly, this one is not an April Fool’s joke – or at least, the joke is on us taxpayers, as usual.

The Auditor-General looked into the $290 million this government planned to spend to assist tourism businesses hit by Covid in 2020. And found a slush fund “scant regard for conventional Government processes”, and Ministers “didn’t bother to keep proper records.”

With true Labour regard for other people’s hard-earned money, they managed to fund three tourism businesses before establishing an actual funding system. And without much in the way of documentation from the businesses concerned.

Over a quarter of the businesses were then given more money than they asked for.

And then the Ministers decided not enough Maori businesses were being funded, so they dropped the criteria they did have altogether for them.

(For all the grim details, continue reading at https://www.politik.co.nz/ministers-ignored-officials-advice-and-kept-no-records-of-tourism-slush-fund/?ct=t(POLITIKToday_07_10_2016_10_6_2016_COPY_01)&mc_cid=dc40c53536&mc_eid=a31df28135 | Politik)
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April 1, 2022 8:38am
- alex Masterley
  
  No mention of this in the Horrid as yet.
  
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  April 1, 2022 8:46am
- Tony Stuart
  
  More info here, courtesy of RNZ:
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/464389/tourism-businesses-furious-government-picked-favourites-for-290m-fund
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/464359/auditor-general-finds-failings-in-290m-tourism-support-scheme
  
  Unsurprisingly, Kelvin Davis was up to his chin in this unholy mess, unveiling millions in STAPP funding for Discover Waitomo and Whale Watch Kaikōura before applications had even closed in June 2020.
  
  It’s because of issues like this that there simply MUST be a Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Government’s response to Covid-19, covering every aspect of the response from January 2020 to now. National and Act should be pushing hard for this.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:05am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep,
    and looks like the main criteria required was the race of the owners of the favoured businesses.
    
    “The Auditor General also accuses the Government of blatant racism, saying that all Māori Tourism businesses that applied were given money, but non-Māori businesses had to score at least 15/30 points in an assessment.
    
    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2204/S00003/auditor-general-slams-dodgy-tourism-fund-for-racial-discrimination.htm
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:30am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Bet there was a kickback. Like a donation to the Labour Party.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:30am
Maggie Pie

There must be days when Meng wonders why he bothers getting out of bed…

‘HRC Chief Commissioner Paul Hunt (no relation to Joe) skewers discussion on ‘Hate Speech Laws’ with Race Relations Conciliator Meng Foon’

https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/human-rights-commissioner-orders-hit-on-interview
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April 1, 2022 8:48am
I remember when

Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed: Modelling reveals effectiveness of boosters in preventing Omicron transmission: msn.com:
“These results are sensitive to the model assumptions about vaccine effectiveness”
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April 1, 2022 8:48am
- mandk
  
  Manufactured data + Dubious assumptions = Any answer you want to get.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:25am
I remember when

The Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Does this suggest serious shortages .
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April 1, 2022 8:50am
Mummy

Trolling through Stuff to find their April fools joke article and although probably most of them fit the bill, maybe this is it?
https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/127979662/flying-doctors-will-health-workers-break-their-highemitting-habits
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April 1, 2022 8:55am
artemisia

So councils are making decisions about mandates and passes. Some gone already or about to be.

Auckland Council is hanging in there for a few more months. Wellington CC has decided to remove the vax pass requirement ‘soon’ but is consulting staff. Presumably about that ‘soon’.

It will be interesting to see when the ‘soon’ is, as if it is not 4 April it will be due to terrified staff. Because reasons.

Interested to hear what other councils are doing.
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April 1, 2022 8:56am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Russia may stop/cut gas supply unless paid in roubles. Smart move, the consumers either want gas or they don’t.
It is Russian gas, they can do as they like, even ask to be paid in Gold!
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April 1, 2022 9:06am
- Nickc2
  
  Sorry Steve, reported by mistake. Accept an uptick.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:09am
- kowtow
  
  Merkel smashed the domestic German energy supply creating dependence on Russia.
  
  At one stage the media pardy declared her to be the leader of the free world.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not too bright these lefties are they. Just as Jaspinda stopped coal mining and now imports dirty coal from Indonesia. Huntly was built on a coalfield for a reason ffs.
    Let’s go Brenda
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:48am
    - SoloView
      
      Was Jacinda on Solid Energy’s board in 2015?
      That was when Solid Energy closed their mine saying “there is “no chance whatsoever” of the mine being sold or turning a profit.”
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/72812848/solid-energy-proposes-the-closure-of-huntly-east-mine
      
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      April 1, 2022 3:31pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    hmmm…
    
    Here is a nice thought: Angela Merkl formerly of East Germany leads the United Germany into energy dependence on Russia. A major Geo-Strategic blunder – and I mean a huge, huge blunder.
    
    And where did Vladimir Putin serve as a KGB office – why in East Germany.
    
    I wonder how well they knew each other back in the days before the Wall came down and East Germany gained freedom?
    
    And how many sleeper KGB agents are still inside the Germany political system white-anting Germany institutions?
    
    When you play the long game assets are put in place that may never be used or reach positions of power where they may be useful – but clever operators like Russia and the PRC plant many seeds hoping that only a few will germinate and produce the desired dividends.
    
    How many agents of the CCP, former citizens of the PRC are currently bedding into NZ life and working their way quietly to places of influence?
    
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    April 1, 2022 4:59pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes Steve,
  
  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/30/russia-ukraine-putin-being-misled-by-advisers-us-says-liveblog
  Russia says “unfriendly” countries must begin paying for its gas in roubles from Friday but Kremlin decree indicates a workaround for foreign currency purchases.
  Also a lot of noise from OPEC+ countries distancing themselves from US$.
  I see India is on the “Friendly” list and is securing energy from Russia.
  It seems like a concerted effort to destabilise the US$.
  Interesting times.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:33am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    I wouldn’t say it’s a concerted effort to destabilise the US dollar. The US has been doing that to themselves for about 50 years. Their problem is they used to be a bit like Ardern – not bad at spinning bs and polishing turds to make shit look impressive.
    I think other countries are reading the room and moving accordingly.
    Interesting times.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:20am
    - westernScientist
      
      since 1971, arguably earlier. A genuine gold standard could well kill the petrodollar. Unless the ‘backed by guns’ theory really does hold, but that will cost a lot of blood on the wests part, if it is even possible.
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I think now the US is releasing 1 million barrels a day to help ease the dependency on the Saudis.
    Today’s shit would not have happened under Trump and America is now realising this.
    Let’s go Brandon
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:51am
    - kowtow
      
      Brandon called Saudi Arabia a “pariah state” while on campaign trail.
      
      He still hasn’t been phoned back by them and they still refuse to pump more to save his sorry ass .
      
      “America’s Back “……….not!
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:14pm
      - Batman
        
        If you define being back as sucking up to a state which conducts mass executions and bone saws then dissolves journalists, sure.
        
        I think many would rather not be back. But some sure do love sucking up to autocratic strong men eh?
        
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        April 1, 2022 12:40pm
      - kowtow
        
        You’re making things up , again.
        
        I did no defining of anything .
        
        And Brandon is sucking up to strong men who have very poor ‘uman rights records , he’s desperate for oil from Iran and Venezuela ………
        
        “America’s back” and begging for help.
        
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        April 1, 2022 2:07pm
  - cmm
    
    There is a flip side to this too.
    
    Why should the USD be the sole trading currency for oil?
    
    There is no doubt that using USD as an international currency boosts its stability at the expense of other currencies.
    
    There is no way USA could sustain their debt-fueled economy without this artificial fiscal crutch.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:58am
    - Nickc2
      
      The talk on the block is that China is about to switch to its own version of Bitcoin and insists all purchases and sales to/from China are paid for in the new currency.
      AFIK, all purchases from China in the future are also to be paid for in the new currency prior to shipping.
      With our financial genius PM only recently being educated as to what GDP is and how it works, she no doubt has NZs financial future well and truly worked out in advance and thus won’t take no shit from China.
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:44pm
- westernScientist
  
  They have tied the rouble to gold as well, so it makes sense. As Master Mariner says, they have provided for a work around, but it still results in them being payed in roubles.
  
  They do appear to be positioning to be starting a new gold standard, which has been looking like it might have been a plan for a decade or so (when they started buying up gold reserves). The Chinese have been increasing gold reserves over the last decade or so as well.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:47am
UrbanNeocolonialist

Clear statistical analysis showing covid vaccinations killing a whole lot of people in Australia: https://principia-scientific.com/australian-covid-19-data-analysis/
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April 1, 2022 9:13am
- kowtow
  
  Two recent high profile Australians in their 50’s died prematurely .
  
  You’d wonder , tip of an iceberg?
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:23am
Yvette

The IPCA announced last week it would spend the next 12 months conducting an inquiry into the police handling of the protest …
In a statement to Newsroom on Wednesday a spokesperson for Jacinda Ardern said, “given that these terms of reference are broad and comprehensive any additional review would double up with their work and incur further expense’’.
The Government has made up to $3.5 million available to the IPCA to set up a dedicated team to complete its year-long review.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/police-watchdog-alone-in-its-review-of-parliament-protest

Police and Parliament security are on high alert on Friday as a group called NZUnite begins what it says will be a 14-day protest against COVID-19 restrictions and government “coercion”

Unlike the 23-day protest that took over Parliament’s grounds and surrounding streets in February and early March, this demonstration will apparently move between different locations across the two-week period. The first site of protest on Friday will be the Pukeahu National War Memorial in central Wellington.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/04/simon-bridges-david-parker-react-to-new-planned-protest-that-has-authorities-on-alert.html

Who – Police, politicians or protesters – have already learned from the last protest?
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April 1, 2022 9:14am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The IPCA are about as independent as the Remuneration Authority. It needs a fully independent inquiry without restrictions on who can be questioned. Otherwise it is a sham.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:24am
- Hebe123
  
  I made a complaint to the IPCA after the first day of police violence at the protest, e.g. the cop doing the pressup on a 17 year old’s head, and others.
  
  I see yesterday that IPCA has been looking at my LinkedIn profile. And no, there is no chance i popped up in a search for particular skills or experience they may seek. Looks like they intend to play the man not the ball.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:22am
I remember when

Wairarapa Times-Age:
“Three Waters: Iwi engagement ‘severely lacking”:
The South Wairarapa Mayor has drawn attention to what he calls a ‘severely lacking’ consultation with some local Maori groups.
He has had two iwi and a number of hapu come to him saying, ” What’s going on because I have no knowledge and have never been contacted.”
DIA Deputy Chief Executive for Local Government Michael Lovett said, “Direct kanohi ki te kanohi is our preferred way of engaging with iwi Maori.”
“The challenges of covid and aligning diaries for direct engagement have meant that we have not to date been able to meet directly with Ngati Kahungunu ki Wairarapa.”
“We have had several engagements with Rangitane o Wairarapa at both Iwi Authority level and with Key advisers.”
Mayors and CEOs in Porirua, Wellington and the Hutt have expressed similar consultation unevenness.

So it’s Nanaia, the Labour Government and those Maori they think are important to their cause.
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April 1, 2022 9:21am
- Yvette
  
  THREE WATERS: Iwi engagement ‘severely lacking’
  https://times-age.co.nz/three-waters-iwi-engagement-severely-lacking/
  Wairarapa times Age
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:12am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  If Nanaia Mahuta is picking one iwi over another iwi then co-governance is a sham
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:33pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Very Foolish.
    Ngati Kahungunu is much the larger tribe in the Wairarapa-Hawkes Bay.
    
    https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/08/two-tribes/#:~:text=Ng%C4%81ti%20Kahungunu,-__&text=He%20claims%20his%20family%20was,way%20in%20the%20Tararua%20district.
    
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    April 1, 2022 9:54pm
westernScientist

had a quick look at the Aus polling, its looking like Labour are head.

Question: for the two years of 2024-25, would you rather be in aus at the end of a first term labour government, or here after at the start of a first term national government?
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April 1, 2022 9:22am
Tom Hunter

I had an interesting exhange with “virtualmark” yesterday on ideological views and what’s changing – or at least it would have been an exchange if my comment hadn’t sat in limbo for hours.

Anyhoo, between that and a co-blogger at No Minister calling me an ideological purist I decided to list the NZ elections I’ve voted in, who I voted for and why, The 80/20 Purity Rule.

It would be interesting to see the same from other commentators.
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April 1, 2022 9:22am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You need ‘auto approve’ under your real name. A simple email to Kiwiblog will sort it. They will also do workarounds if you have a good reason for not disclosing your name. Ask.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:58am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    I suppose, but I ceased commenting frequently here at KB in 2017 so….
    
    And FFS, I’ve been commenting under my own name here since 2007, had a guest post, exchanged emails with DPF several times over the years and even introduced myself to him at the BackBencher pub.
    
    And I’ve only ever been booted once, for a week, for giving “Aunty” too hard of a serve, so I think I’ve been a pretty good boy. 🙂
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:42pm
ClanMcleod

As the UK starts a programme aimed at jabbing 5 – 11 year olds, a UK celebrity doctor on mainstream media states that:

“It’s important we remind parents that the [Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization] have looked into all of the data, they’ve told us the benefits far outweigh the risks. The risks are extremely low, and the risks of Covid much higher.”

This is a blatant and outright lie.
OffGuardian does their usual sterling job of exposing it for what it is.

“Is this true?

Let’s take the statements in reverse order.

Are the “risks of Covid much higher than the risks of the vaccine?”

They have literally no way of knowing.

But since Covid’s survival rate for children is something like 99.9998%, does it even really matter?

Do the benefits of the vaccine “far outweigh its risks”?

Again, they have literally no way of knowing.

But since the vaccine manufacturers:

openly acknowledge in their supply contracts that their product may have unknown side effects,
have demanded legal immunity to protect themselves from being sued should their vaccine cause harm, and released a document listing 9 pages of over 1200 “adverse events of special interest”, which they defend by saying there “may not be a causal relationship” …they are at least aware that there might be some risks.”

Full article here.

https://off-guardian.org/2022/03/31/coronavirus-fact-check-15-we-know-all-the-risks-of-covid-vaccines/
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April 1, 2022 9:25am
- Tom Hunter
  
  But since Covid’s survival rate for children is something like 99.9998%,…
  
  99.99997% according to the CDC, and that’s from 2020 with an unvaccinated population facing the dreaded Alpha variant of General Tso’s Sickness.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:32am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    medical ethics, 2020 style; Primum non nocere. First do no harm [to Big Pharma profitability]
    
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    April 1, 2022 4:56pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…

No idea what America’s first black female Vice President is on……but if it was me, I’d change my supplier.

https://twitter.com/RickyBeBack/status/1509175004830724100

(….and the comments!! 😛 )
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April 1, 2022 9:27am
- Tom Hunter
  
  She’s everything the Left claimed VP Dan Quayle was and Sarah Palin would be.
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:33am
- blue collar
  
  She’s there purely so biden doesn’t get the arse , I mean , would you get rid of senile biden with that as the replacement?
  Very cunning pick from biden , someone worse than him , still , tough call either way . Both fucked
  
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  April 1, 2022 5:23pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    A WH staff can correct for the stupidity of a President but not for dementia where you never know what’s going to come out of his mouth.
    
    Even so, the 25th Amendment option is not so easy, as I wrote about here, It’s 25th Amendment time – or something?.
    
    You know there’s maneuvering going on behind the scenes when you have ridiculous shit being leaked like rumours of putting up Harris for the Supreme Court. But they missed their chance. 🙂
    
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    April 1, 2022 7:23pm
John Pakes

Looks like the so called value of Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid is being debunked yet again.
In a major study, the New England Journal of Medicine reports that a study of 1300 patients found no benefit from the drug at all.
Seems like those folk who took a paste designed for horses spent their money for nothing. Still, it is their money I suppose.
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April 1, 2022 9:43am
- ClanMcleod
  
  JP – it’s over. Let it go. You were wrong about everything as were all of the pandemicists. The “conspiracy theorists” were right.
  
  https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/30/lockdowns-cost-more-lives-than-they-saved-and-must-not-happen-again-scientists-tell-mps/
  
  You don’t really expect us to find the dozens and dozens of alternative reports that call bullshit on what you’ve linked to? Again? Do you really want to be shown up yet again? Don’t do it to yourself. Just stay quiet.
  
  Or is this your idea of an April Fool prank?
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:55am
  - John Pakes
    
    More splutter from Clan.
    The link that you provide is all about lockdown, and says nothing about Invermectin.
    Are you lost again?
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:50am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Why said trial is bollocks; late treatment, low dose, administered without food and of course financial interest of trial runners in ensuring Ivermectin looks bad:
  
  https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Statement-on-Together-Trial-WSJ-Article-Mar-18-1.pdf
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:23am
  - Batman
    
    Urban you need to accept the the benefits were only ever found in petrie dishes using very high dosage levels. Levels which were unsafe for human consumption.
    
    The NEJM study and the reporting covers that off, as well as the “alternative reports” which Clan cites above as proof.
    
    Then again, ivermectin is akin to religion for some, so it’s fairly pointless trying to convince true believers!
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:16pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Did you see my response to your ridiculous assertion yesterday? The results achieved by Dr. Peter McCullough in Texas with the Alpha strqain before the arrival of a so called ‘vaccine’ put a lie to your or any other denials re ivermectin.
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:40pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    And a really comprehensive take-down of the ‘together’ trial. Always read the fine print on anything reported by the MSM that supports their preferred narratives.
    https://ivmmeta.com/#togetherivm
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:26pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  JP – I’m presuming your referring to the NEJM study that was shredded here.
  
  https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/wsj-misleads-public-ivermectin/
  
  Don’t attack the source, deal with the content.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:45am
  - John Pakes
    
    No, try leaving the conspiracy world that you exist in. Nothing to do with the Wall Street Journal, the report came via NPR.
    And you are a ninny if you consider the Wall Street Journal wanders around trying to mislead the public.
    
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    April 1, 2022 10:54am
    - All_on_Red
      
      The WSJ is not without its bias and has displayed that more than a few times.
      Same as NPR.
      Some subjects you need to look critically at their take on it.
      I wouldn’t take their articles as gospel.
      
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      April 1, 2022 10:57am
- surfing
  
  Frankly you were on the right track until you discredited yourself by saying ivermectin is horse paste.
  
  This is disappointing because people like you give ammunition to those who attack the real science. If you’re willing to make fake claims that ivermectin is just horse paste (which it isn’t), then your other claims must also be fake.
  
  Thanks for nothing.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:56am
  - Hebe123
    
    Yes, that’s when i first took at interest in Ivermectin, and whether it was efficacious – when Bloomfield called it a horse dewormer.
    
    Of course, like some others here I was aware that it was one of the most used and safest drugs in the world (way safer than paracetamol) and that its ‘inventors’ had won the Nobel Prize for it. So the BS detector went into overdrive.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:25am
    - Batman
      
      Proving Surfings point.
      
      Ivermectin is both for humans and horse paste. The mix differs of course.
      
      At no point has it worked for humans to fight a viral infection, at a dosage which wouldn’t nearly kill the human.
      
      Studies which show otherwise have been found to have major flaws and many have been withdrawn.
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:19pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Many treatments/drugs do many different things with side effects. Hydroxy – malaria is an example. I take Amitriptyline along with other pain killers.
      Amitriptyline is used for mood swings, unbalanced stuff and many others. No I am not psycho – yet!
      I take it because one of the side effects is helping to repair nerve damage. Yeah, it has come back, pinched nerve C8 nerve root (C8) due to possible herniated disc at C7/T1
      
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      April 1, 2022 2:55pm
- cjn
  
  In “The Real Anthony Fauci” page-37-62 Robert F Kennedy Jn deals with the question of Ivermectin. Within is a recorded interview between Dr Andrew Hill and Dr Tessa Lawrie. You should read it. It is not good for you to reveal your ignorance by calling Ivermectin a “horse paste”.
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:49pm
- gorse
  
  Horse paste, Ivermectin? As a pour on it is useful for all animals, I have used it on cattle, sheep, hens, dogs, cats, and myself when it got my hands. Certainly cleans out the internal parasites. Covid? When I catch it, as we all will, I might have another spill and let you know.
  
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  April 1, 2022 5:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump’s lawyer hopes this is just the beginning.
$105K and $8K is peanuts, but still another win.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-celebrates-as-fec-fines-hillary-campaign-dnc-over-payments-for-steele-dossier/?
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April 1, 2022 9:54am
- Nickc2
  
  What a pittance! That’s Petty Cash tin stuff. I hope costs were awarded as well.
  Still, at the end of the day, it proves Trump was right and Hillary Clinton is a crook.
  See if that Chartreuse Jump Suit still fits baby, this is only the beginning.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:03am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Hillary always said if she goes down, she will take half of DC with her.
    Let’s go, The Donald
    
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    April 1, 2022 2:57pm
andretti

I see a solo mum with 3 kids gets up to $1440 per week for sitting on her ass,im not pissed off but envious.This is around 75k per year for not having a job.Get ready folks inflation is coming and i mean real inflation.
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April 1, 2022 9:55am
Durden

Following on from the discussion about providing a “None of the Above” (NOTA) on ballot forms

(https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/03/general_debate_29_march_2022.html/comment-page-1#comment-3153210 )

here is a UK website that is fighting to make it happen.

https://www.votenone.org.uk/about.html

Our turkey politicians won’t be happy. They have to be dragged kicking and screaming due to strong public anger to make it happen.

Steve Todd, I would be very happy to review your paper sent via DPF
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April 1, 2022 10:06am
- Steve Todd
  
  Hi, Durden—
  
  I’m working on it, but it has turned into a bit of a nightmare. My paper concentrates on how NOTA would work under STV (the details of which would not be suitable for inclusion in a Guest Post), not so much on the reasons why NOTA should be adopted in the first place. I need to beef that up a little.
  
  Thanks for the link. I’ve been looking at https://nota-uk.org/.
  
  (I lost a day yesterday; I spent too much time at “Helping Labour retain Auckland”.)
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:18am
Tony Stuart

I see that cannabis seedlings were found in a rose garden in the grounds of Parliament yesterday:

https://twitter.com/radionz/status/1509417685226242050

Given that Speaker Trevor Mallard is responsible for the parliamentary precinct, does that make him a party to the cultivation of cannabis?
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April 1, 2022 10:20am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Trevor watered them.
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Cannabis is a water-hungry plant
    
    https://mjbizdaily.com/cannabis-requires-more-water-than-commodity-crops-researchers-say/#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20the%20researchers%20found,long%20from%20June%20through%20October.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:14am
- Libertarians are right
  
  Could be the real reason he was so keen to turn on the sprinklers regardless of whether people were going to get wet or not.
  Also, I hear that playing music for plants is good for them?
  
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  April 1, 2022 10:58am
- kowtow
  
  All joking aside .
  
  The media pardy are using this to continue their villification campaign against the freedom protesters and yet at any other time of year the media pardy agenda is dope is good , legalise it , why can’t we , it’s a great medicine , blah blah blah.
  
  Hypocrites with an agenda.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Possibly not planted by rent a mob, but one of The Green mob
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:07pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    You do the vast majority of protestors a great disservice by labelling them “rent a mob”.
    
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    April 3, 2022 9:02am
ClanMcleod

Toby Young’s Daily Sceptic producing quality journalism yet again. The UK are almost a year ahead of NZ in dealing with the covid circus. Brenda would do well to just listen to what they are now saying and adopt their policies. Save time and money and the continued grief for the people of NZ.

“Lockdowns cost more lives than they saved and must not happen again”

Here’s just one of the many salient comments:

“The Government and its advisers do not seem to have recognised the extent of the downside risks before implementing a public health intervention that had never before been used on such a scale. In addition, the modelling upon which the lockdowns were decided could not be relied on.”

That statement fully applies to NZ. Worth reading the whole article, especially the comments from the scientists and experts.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/30/lockdowns-cost-more-lives-than-they-saved-and-must-not-happen-again-scientists-tell-mps/
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April 1, 2022 10:31am
- krazykiwi
  
  Young deserves official recognition for his (and his team’s) commitment to providing well evidenced counter-narrative commentary over the last two years.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:06am
  - Don Beckett
    
    There were a number of us on this blog who had the foresight to recognise that lockdowns can do more harm than good if one takes a holisitic view of how a society operates. The downside to lockdowns IMO were glaringly obvious.
    
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    April 1, 2022 11:47am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Indeed he does kk, but be careful what you wish for. “Official recognition” can mean more than one thing…
    
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    April 3, 2022 9:05am
- John Pakes
  
  Toby Young and the Daily Sceptic should be read with, well, scepticism.
  A quick search on Google brings up a fair number of times when he has been proven to be wrong, and has even admitted himself that he was wrong. Newspapers have had to back track on the stuff that he has written, the Independant springs to mind.
  Quality journalism? I think not.
  He writes deliberately from a sceptics point of view.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:15am
  - cmm
    
    Nope, never trust ANYONE that admits they’re wrong.
    
    That’s why I trust Cindy. It’s always someone else’s fault!
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:46pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    As opposed to John Pakes, who not only is never wrong but would also never admit it, even in the highly unlikely event it were the case. You’re amazing John.
    
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    April 3, 2022 9:09am
westernScientist

wow, I guess Stuff really want another few million to employ some photoshopers. It looks like they have given up on the touch ups completely:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300555470/wont-shift-the-dial-jacinda-ardern-on-why-its-not-the-right-time-for-tax-cuts
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April 1, 2022 10:32am
Ra Henare

What is it with Airlines. Are they all competing for the worst Customer Service trophy.

Try asking a question by email.
Singapore Airlines dont provide an email address, just a maze of of a website which keeps looping back to something called contact your Local office.
In Auckland good luck getting anyone to answer the phone.

Malaysian Airlines. (Trying to find out when flights restart from Auckland). Found an email address for Reservations. Auto reply with what will happen after 15th June. Real helpful-NOT!

720,000 New Zealanders are hearing impaired (but can read) but Airlines and many other businesses seem fixated on only providing phone numbers. Where your hearing will be greeted by an Adrenist level lie…Your call is important to us.. BS BS BS BS

Cant afford Air New Zealand ticket prices so didnt bother checking their customer service.
Humph
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April 1, 2022 10:51am
- Hebe123
  
  I think worst customer service – and service in general – goes ito NZ post. I was sent some urgent documents on overnight courier at 10am Monday from Blenheim to Christchurch. They are yet to arrive. They cannot be found in the physical system though they appear to exist in the virtual one. I have spent hours on the phone, have driven around courier depots where their 0800 number has told me to go and eventually spent hundreds with my lawyer getting the documents redone physically brought down by a friend. Just had a notification that they are at a Chch depot. Somewhere.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:30am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    It’s pretty much been the case for the last 10 years. Mrs Lodden was a Postie for 30-odd years but chose to give it up when the corporate “standards” and values became at such odds with her own.
    
    The 0800 number is universally called 0800 WHO-GIVES-A-SH*T and the service reflects that. They genuinely do not care.
    
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    April 3, 2022 9:19am
- krazykiwi
  
  If you sign up to their frequent flyer programs you’ll generally get email access once logged in. I’ve used this technique to register distain for the vaxx and mask policies of multiple airlines, and to note that I’ll not fly with any airline that implements medical apartheid. I just one, little voice. But hopefully it counts in the long run.
  
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  April 1, 2022 11:34am
- MCōs
  
  I once took my malfunctioning iPhone to 2Degrees in Onehunga who sent it for repairs to somewhere near the airport.
  It couldn’t be fixed so it was replaced.
  All in a few days.
  However.
  The courier company sent it to China and that’s where the problems started, as one can imagine.
  I spent the next month getting the run around from various people parties before someone finally gave me a seemingly secret number for Apple in Sydney.
  Straight through. Someone sorted things out right away and then sounded like they were going to turn their attention to whoever who fucking with their products.
  To my way of thinking I gave the phone to 2Degrees, it’s their problem.
  I was all set to break out a suit and tie and confront someone at HQ, but it was impossible to find a number to ring.
  
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  April 1, 2022 7:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Whew…
Someone in Labour finally recognises that NZ has a gang problem

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/04/labour-mp-helen-white-shares-increase-in-gang-activity-concerns-days-after-police-minister-poto-williams-denies-rise-in-gang-violence.html
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April 1, 2022 11:12am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Yes, but the news article makes it very clear early on that Helen White was unsuccessful against Chloe in Auckland Central…
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:08pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Helen White is only poking her head above the parapet because she might have to return to the legal profession next year.
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:11pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Might? Unless she can unseat Chloe, I’d say that’s as near to a certainty as you can get.
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:13pm
    - I remember when
      
      It’s not a great time to be white.
      
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      April 1, 2022 1:29pm
Rusty

1/4 /22 Leaked documents from the Beehive have revealed the govt is planning on suspending next year’s elections indefinitely due to suspected terrorist threats if they proceed.
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April 1, 2022 11:42am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Rightttttttt
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:13pm
  - Batman
    
    Rusty’s April Fools probably needed to be more elaborate to not appear to be merely a crazy idea?
    
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    April 1, 2022 12:21pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yes, but there is a little truth. NZ Elections are usually Sep to Nov; however next years’ Election can be extended to no later than Jan 13th 2024
      
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      April 1, 2022 12:57pm
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        That’s sealed then – perfect timing for Summer festivals, Clarke and the DeeJays, a re-scheduled royal wedding. The possibilities are endless…
        
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        April 1, 2022 1:09pm
cmm

There’s been a lot of pearl clutching over the Solomon Islands and China striking a deal.

Well I say so what?

Let’s stop treating the Solomon Islands like children. Let’s start treating them like grown ups.

That means they get to decide who their friends are and who they hang out with.
That means they are responsible for the decisions they make.
That means they no longer need their “parents” (Oz, NZ etc) to pay them pocket money, feed them and clothe their police forces, run their public services and look over their shoulders.

These countries will never grow up if we keep treating them like teens.

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/assets/Aid-Prog-docs/IATI-PDFs/PACMM/SolomonIslands.PDF

Rinse and repeat for Fiji, etc.
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April 1, 2022 11:48am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  A select few politicians and bureaucrats in the Solomons will be getting rich off this deal – perhaps sufficiently to allow them to emigrate, but will be delivering their poor fellow countrymen into the jaws of the dragon. Same problem as rest of 3rd world doing deals with China.
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:30pm
- virtualmark
  
  The Solomon Islands are a sovereign country, and as such are free to decide who they ally with.
  
  Although if there’s corruption involved (what do you think …) then that’s a different story.
  
  But choices have consequences. Careful who you lie down with. And don’t expect countries like NZ & Australia to be as helpful towards you in future.
  
  For NZ & Australia we have our own decisions to make.
  
  (1) To what extent do we try to make it attractive to the Solomons to align with us?
  
  (2) To what extent do we need to shake our complacency about defence and prepare a robust military capability to counter anything China bring?
  
  I’m surprised the Solomons haven’t had enough of being the fighting ground for bigger powers, given their WWII experiences.
  
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  April 1, 2022 2:19pm
curry4me

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10672659/Putin-threatens-turn-Europes-gas-supplies-TOMORROW-countries-refuse-pay-roubles.html

Putin threatens to Turn Off Europe’s Gas Supply Tomorrow Unless they Pay in Rubles.

Vladimir Putin today threatened to turn off Europe’s gas supplies from tomorrow if countries refuse to pay in roubles.
The Russian President, announcing a decree in televised remarks, said foreign buyers would have to ‘open rouble accounts in Russian banks’ which can be used to pay for ‘gas delivered starting from tomorrow’.
‘If such payments are not made, we will consider this a default on the part of buyers, with all the ensuing consequences. Nobody sells us anything for free, and we are not going to do charity either – that is, existing contracts will be stopped,’ he said.
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April 1, 2022 11:54am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Sounds fair to me. Roubles or Gold I reckon
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:15pm
- virtualmark
  
  Shrug.
  
  Putin is allowed to ask for payment in roubles (even though the contract states Euros).
  
  Europe is allowed to say no.
  
  Russia is allowed to break their contract and stop deliveries to Europe.
  
  But they don’t have the infrastructure to divert that gas to other markets … good luck sending it to China, or India, or wherever … one gas bullet at a time.
  
  So then Russia don’t get any income, let alone income in roubles.
  
  People have choices. People make decisions. People bear the consequences.
  
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  April 1, 2022 2:24pm
  - virtualmark
    
    If I’m Europe I tell him to get stuffed, we’ll pay in Euros.
    
    Dictators power largely derives from no one standing up to them and calling their bluffs. Since Europe wants him gone, call his bluff. Put the pressure back on him.
    
    Summers coming in Europe … less need for his gas. Tell your people we need to conserve energy. Work hard to boost production from North Sea, increase shipments from US, Qatar etc. Bring the German nuke plants back into operation.
    
    This is a time for big boys’ games. Squeeze your opponent’s balls.
    
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    April 1, 2022 2:27pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezCvv6cdkOc

Gender Studies Professor Openly Admits Democrats’ Endgame For American Children.

At the Oceanside, California city council meeting Professor Mark Dice openly discusses Democrats’ plan for American public schools. [3:21. Mark is having some fun with the wokerati.]
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April 1, 2022 11:54am
Stellaboxer

Is this the first government in New Zealand history that has had to fence its self in Parliament because it fears for its safety? What a legacy lol.
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April 1, 2022 11:57am
- graham
  
  Along with being the first Labour Government to try to shut down a protest?
  
  Quite ironic for a Government made up of so many protestors …
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:36pm
- I remember when
  
  Stellaboxer:
  Lock the gate, block the tunnel, throw away the key and leave them there..
  
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  April 1, 2022 1:24pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Didn’t lefties say ‘walls don’t work’ or is that just in the US?
  
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  April 1, 2022 3:08pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Walls keep people out. The Left in the US want people to be let in so therefore walls don’t work because they stop what the US want from happening.
    
    See, they are right, from a certain point of view.
    
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    April 1, 2022 4:09pm
blue collar

Wahay !
Finally positive for the cron
Aches n pains n fever to start but ….. parked up hving a beer after a sesh in the spa pool .
Shot Brenda !!! 40 hours paid to sit around hving a ball when I would normally be back at work Monday
Poor employers copping it .
Oh well , put the prices up to recoup costs , add to the inflation fire 🔥 in the dumpster that is the New Zealand economy
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April 1, 2022 11:59am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

I see the Soloman’s have just signed their Security Agreement with Chynaa!!
Effective immediately.

It will allow the CCP to station Intelligence and Military personnel on the Islands and the PSB to send Police 🙁

(FAAAARK)
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April 1, 2022 12:06pm
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  And “we” in the International Community cannot object without exposing ourselves as hypocrites. If we wanted China out of the neighbourhood we’d be “aggressive Russia” to China’s “defensive NATO,” while those poor Solomon Islanders would be “the sovereign peoples of Ukrainian.” Oh dear. What to do?
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:41pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Even the Russian fanbois should be able to see the difference.
    No country is threatening, let alone conducting, a ‘special military operation’ to force the Solomon Islands to do anything. Independent nations in the south Pacific are free to conduct their international relations in the same way as other states. The restrictions Russia seeks to impose by force on its neighbours have no parallel here.
    
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    April 1, 2022 4:46pm
- cmm
  
  None of these countries got out of the sand pit when NZ and Oz were helping them.
  
  A big problem in most of these basket case countries is corruption and China doesn’t mind cleaning that up with the death penalty.
  
  Maybe having China play mummy and daddy in the Pacific and Africa might work better.
  
  One things for sure though: after a decade of Chinese “assistance” they’ll be wanting those nasty British Colonialists back.
  
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  April 1, 2022 12:43pm
  - kowtow
    
    I suspect they only pop you when you’re not part of the in group.
    
    Another reason dictators are loath to handover power.
    
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    April 1, 2022 1:59pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    I think you will find that China will not interfere with local Solomon Govt.
    They have their base. Thats what they want.
    
    They dont want the people!!
    (and the problems)
    
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    April 1, 2022 2:10pm
- Nickc2
  
  Cindy’ll put on her best angry face and wave a finger at em. That’ll make em sit up and take notice of what she said.
  
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  April 1, 2022 1:11pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Then she will lecture in word soup waffle, and nobody will know what the fuck she said. WIN win win all round
    
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    April 1, 2022 3:11pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      SHIT YEAH. She’ll really show’em. Tough bitch Spindy. 😉
      
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      April 1, 2022 5:14pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Wait for the riots and then the PRC Cops arrive and it is all on for young and old. The S Islanders will not like it.
  
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  April 1, 2022 1:47pm
I remember when

‘I was losing sleep’: Harassed councillor ‘relieved’ online troll outed himself: The Project:
“You can’t let them win.”
“We can’t let our voices be silenced –
and let the same people make all the decisions all the time.”

Unless it is us, of course.
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April 1, 2022 1:19pm
cmm

Parkside wards are described as squalid and third world.

Two years ago, I spent a week in one of these wards. Sure they had a few scuffs and dings, but in no way were they squalid or third world. They were perfectly functional and in no way compromised staff or patient safety.

Unlike the breathless reporter, I’ve actually been in third world hospitals. Completely different!

A few of the nurses who sorted me out there were African. I’m sure that they would agree too.

It is all very well being over-entitled and insisting that all our facilities look like well groomed 5 star resorts, but at what cost? I’d rather then money went into actual health equipment and personnel than on cosmetics.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/128196518/upgrade-of-hospital-wards-once-described-as-third-world-gets-under-way
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April 1, 2022 2:00pm
- MCōs
  
  I checked Google to see if Thailand is a third world country and depending who you believe it is or it may be second world.
  Either way nobody seems to be able to pin down the definitions.
  Anyway
  I’ve had plenty of experience with Bangkok hospitals, both personally and through my wife.
  In my opinion the kit over there at the top hospitals is first rate and easily accessible, but the quality of nursing care fades away.
  I had a hip replacement, dental work, dvt, epilepsy & skin cancer expertly handled by top specialists, but things tended to be uneven after that.
  Free car parking, but that was the extent of the largesse.
  My wife goes to subsidized hospitals where the doctors are overworked, but still get the job done at a fraction of the cost.
  One day I was sitting in the, unairconditioned, waiting room waiting for my wife when about four guys sat next to me all handcuffed together.
  
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  April 1, 2022 6:18pm
westernScientist

consumer confidence tumbling:

https://www.interest.co.nz/personal-finance/115158/slumping-consumer-confidence-does-not-bode-well-retailers-says-anz-chief

Record low, lower than Q2 of 2020 and significantly below the minimum reached in the GFC.

Makes me wonder how long until we start to see this type of thing here:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/300555975/sri-lankans-protest-near-presidents-residence
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April 1, 2022 3:02pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  I refute that!!!!
  
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  April 1, 2022 7:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Volodymyr Zelenskyy ” Hello Will Smith, did you hear what Vladimir Putin said about your Wife?”
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April 1, 2022 3:24pm
Maggie Pie

My partner was saying it looks like Kelvin Clout will be Tauranga’s next MP.
A real top guy he reckons.
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April 1, 2022 5:13pm
Don Beckett

Possible. We’ll see. 🙂
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April 1, 2022 5:17pm
Maggie Pie

FOX’s Laura Ingraham was talking about this guy earlier.
Reckoned he made her ‘puke in her mouth’.

I can see why…..

https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1509546497850945543
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April 1, 2022 5:51pm
Warren

Was in Hamilton today shopping in TeRapa, first at Countdown and then over to the Base Mall and after looking around I would have to say it would be the smallest crowd I have seen at the base in all the time we have been shopping there. So for Grant Robertson to tell us the Country is recovering from the Covid economical storm is a load of crap and many businesses are doing it hard.
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April 1, 2022 5:59pm
Suze Wainwright

I thought Chloe’s only earthly possession was a couch – has she sold out to her class by buying an inner city apartment then?
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April 1, 2022 6:14pm
NZer In Exile

A Tribute to Communism (Hi Jacinda).

https://odysee.com/@IdeaWarehouse:a/Tribute-to-Communism:f

WARNING: Contains some disturbing imagery of communist mass atrocities.
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April 1, 2022 7:00pm
Surely Knott

The Herald – “Covid 19 Omicron: Top scientist’s warning after catching virus ” Caption: “Terry Taylor was shocked at the ferocity of his symptoms when he tested positive for Covid-19. ”
Mr Taylor was fully vaxxed and boosted.

The main idea promoted by the article is that omicron is severe. But surely the story is that the boosters failed to stop transmission or severe symptoms.
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April 1, 2022 8:05pm
Maggie Pie

Just back home from Thai Village….
one of the waitresses was telling us Kerry Woodham will be a contestant on ‘Dancing-With-The-Stars’.

Of all people. LOL!!!
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April 1, 2022 8:29pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Kerry Woodham?
  What happened to Mr. McIvor?
  
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  April 1, 2022 9:06pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Sorry, ‘Kerre’.
    
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    April 1, 2022 9:07pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The ginga is well gone 😀
    
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