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Tony Stuart

Barry Soper has put the boot into Labour a few times recently. But today, he’s done it with steel-capped boots! Under the headline Police Parliament protest, mental health – Labour Government abusing its power he writes:

What’s happening to democracy in this country, let alone the promised transparency of this Government?

Labour is abusing its absolute power and it seems those opposing it are powerless to do anything about it because majority rules.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/barry-soper-police-parliament-protest-mental-health-labour-government-abusing-its-power/DBAGX7G2XNKREEI3VLLC6PT6KQ/

He goes on the chronicle a number of occasions where Labour-dominated select committees have blocked National from getting information from officials. Then, according to Soper, he details how Police Minister Poto Williams has lied over her allegations that National blocked Labour’s former Police spokesman Stuart Nash from meeting with the Police Commissioner.

Then he turns to something really serious:

And if featherbedding Andrew Coster isn’t bad enough, get a load of what they are doing when it comes to questions being asked about its $1.9 billion spend on mental health which has come under fire from the Government’s own Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission.

The majority of Labour MPs on the Health Select Committee have blocked National’s attempt to ask questions about the commission’s first damning report.

National’s mental health spokesman Matt Doocey says it’s bizarre. Not long ago they legislated to set up the commission, and now they’re blocking MPs to ask questions of it.

Labour MPs apparently didn’t think there were any questions to be asked given the commission’s report had been made public.

That’s not for them to decide, Doocey argues, given that National, Act and the Greens all wanted to quiz the experts.

And of course, he’s right.

This goes beyond simply controlling the message. Like they say, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Blocking National, Act and the Greens from questioning the authors of a report on failures in the Mental Health system is an absolute disgrace. People are dying because they can’t access Mental Health services, but Labour MP’s on the select committee are more concerned with playing petty politics. As one who has battled mental health issues, I find Labour’s actions to be outrageous.

Kudos to Barry Soper for expressing his dissatisfaction so eloquently, even if he runs the risk of being frozen out of the PM’s media gatherings. It’s time someone senior called the Government out on its conduct.
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December 31, 2021 8:13am
- GJM
  
  Soper aired his interview with Potato Williams about access to Cos5er. She tried a word salad and lied about Stuart Nash being denied access by the national government. When pushed, she basically said I don’t care and it is my decision and FO.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:30am
  - kowtow
    
    She mustn’t have got the memo from the PM then …..open and transparent …….
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:36am
    - bjools
      
      memo from the PM then …..open and transparent …….
      Written in invisible ink?
      
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      March 31, 2022 10:32am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yes, such is the arrogance of this lot. I suggest we get used to it if our MSM are still being paid for content and protection by this Govt during the lead-up to the next election (if we are allowed to have one).
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:49am
- artemisia
  
  How about an open letter from 2,000 New Zealand academics to Harvard. Probably not a plan to mention power and corruption, but describing the demise of a liberal democracy would do it.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:30am
- nathie
  
  Talking about the “Labour government abusing its power”, I wonder if MSM journalists (apart from Barry Soper) made any critical comment on the following that occurred during the recent Parliamentary protests:
  
  *Labour stated (and was uncritically repeated by the MSM) that the protests were “illegal”. How chilling, since when has a protest ever been illegal? (Because some bylaws were ignored? How come that doesn’t apply when Green protesters prevent people from entering buildings etc)?
  
  *Labour/Speaker prevented the Parliamentary Press Gallery journalists from directly talking to the protesters. Apart from Barry Soper ignoring that “totalitarian” decree, the rest of the gutless parliamentary press gallery complied. Do we have Freedom of the Press anymore? Clearly not!
  
  *Labour brought out something not seen in NZ’s history since 1981 – the Police riot squads!
  
  *Labour supported the Police response to shoot protesters with rubber bullets – since when has that ever happened before?
  
  Not only are Labour abusing its power, they are arrogant, out of step with public sentiment, and are evoking “totalitarian” measures when the population disagrees with them!
  
  It seems some in the EU Parliament called out Canada’s Justin Trudeau for his “totalitarian” responses to the Canadian protesters (like freezing their bank accounts), will international media and politicians call out Jacinda Ardern’s and Labour’s responses against ordinary people that disagree with them?
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:58am
  - kowtow
    
    The evening of the clearance they had Dallow live to JM Mackay , she was singing from the pm’s song sheet , ‘looked foreign’ .
    
    But no surprises there .
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:39am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    The Ardern Regime. The enemy of Free People.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:48am
    - Rusty
      
      Jacinda calls herself a progressive politician and probably her Labour mates are the same.
      
      My question is –what does progressive politics mean– progressing to another level of democracy or progressing away from democracy?
      
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      March 31, 2022 11:38am
      - Clownworld
        
        Regressed not progressed.
        
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        March 31, 2022 9:27pm
- Colville
  
  Soper can see which way the wind is blowing and knows Labour isnt going to be in the top job(s) for much longer.
  There will be a few of his “profession” thinking about winning friends on the Blue team…and its going to make for an interesting 18 months.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:37am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I always thought Barry Soper was left leaning (years ago), but it seems like Heather DPA has really turned him over the last 5 years. (or maybe he realises this clown show are just so out of their depth).
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:44am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The police minister was also found to have lied to the Nation over saying Nats blocked Labour ministers for meeting with the police commissioner, they fact checked, and it was utter lies, yet no sign of the smug arrogant PM over such a lie
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:21am
- ex-golfer
  
  Bomber Bradbury has put the boot into Williams too!
  
  She is just another of the ever-growing list of useless Ministers this country has ever been subjected to.
  
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  March 31, 2022 11:09am
Andrei

Question of the Day.

Is the world really about to go to war in order to maintain Hunter Biden’s ability to grift?
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March 31, 2022 8:02am
- virtualmark
  
  No.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:24am
  - Mike
    
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    That’s disappointing. I thought the Russian liberation of Kiev from the Nazis would lead to the discovery of the DNC server containing the details of the Jewish space lasers, the pedophile colonies on Mars and, most importantly, the truth about Ben Ghazi and the Buttery Males.
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:58am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The death of thousands and the destruction of their cities is just a big joke to you, is it,
      Mike /Mikenmild?
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:22am
      - virtualmark
        
        No. But idiots going on about Butt Hunter are.
        
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        March 31, 2022 9:35am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Did you know that eighty years ago today, the Japanese made their 11th and 12th air raids on Darwin? I’ll bet some wag there made a joke about expecting an unlucky 13th on April Fool’s Day.
        
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        March 31, 2022 2:02pm
- kowtow
  
  Yer and just who is “the big guy” , the guy who gets the 10 % of all those deals with interests in foreign, unfriendly powers.
  
  While the msm obsessed about all things Orange Man , they deliberately avoid , and by so doing , like the so called intelligence operatives outed by the NY Post , cover up for the ‘big guy’.
  
  Hadn’t heard about it ? Of course not . Boat races , bitch slaps and cricket funerals are waaaaaay more impordant , distractions.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:24am
  - Mike
    
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    Is the ‘big guy’ the one organizing the congressional cocaine orgies? Madison Cawthorne needs to be in protective custody now before anything bad happens to him.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:01am
    - Batman
      
      It’s odd that everyone just seems to be ignoring the really obvious issue with inviting Madison Cawthorne to a sex party.
      
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      March 31, 2022 10:18am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I thought it was going to be enough fun seeing the court action seeking to disqualify his candidacy for re-election.
        I understand his defence to the automatic disqualification of anyone who has sworn allegiance to the constitution but has then engaged in insurrection is that as congress amnestied confederates in 1872 no one after that time could possibly be a traitor to their oath.
        
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        March 31, 2022 2:11pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  IMHO Putin will look for a solution that enables him to remain in power. The sanctions are biting not only those around him but ordinary Russians. He needs to show some return for the thousands of body bags.
  He will look to retain the Eastern regions ironically the area he has destroyed and where most of the deaths and wounded have occured.
  If he can do this his position is secured for now.
  The west will agree as it wants to end the fighting and agreeing with Putin is the only way to do this.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:27am
  - James Stephenson
    
    It would be somewhat of a win, given that Putin’s initial target appears to have been to install a puppet regime and if not, at least take everything up to the Dneiper river.
    
    I re-watched “The Death of Stalin” the other day and apart from being funny as f-, it made me wonder what might be going on inside the Kremlin with apparent Putin allies disappearing.
    
    For a long time, telling Vlad exactly what he wanted to hear would have been a great survival strategy, but now that the wheels have (literally in some cases) come off the invasion of Ukraine, the re-evaluation of advice might have made things distinctly unhealthy for some yes-men.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:55am
- Local Miller
  
  I’ve been listening to some of the Senate presentations on the Biden Family Finance Investigation and the details are quite shocking.
  Hunter’s Company#1 gets $1M from a Chines Front Co the day a Chines spy (Patrick Ho) is arrested in the USA. 8 months later when Ho is sentenced, he moves $1M from Co#1 to Co#2 with the transaction description “Patrick Ho representation”. note that neither of these companies is a law firm, and no actual representation is recorded on any of their books.
  All indications are this was to encourage Joe to get Patrick off the hook or get a reduced sentence.
  This is only one of the cash flows being tracked by the committee.
  
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  March 31, 2022 11:44am
- oldfella
  
  Federal investigation of Hunter Biden heats up
  A Justice Department investigation into Hunter Biden’s business activities has gained steam in recent months, with a flurry of witnesses providing testimony to federal investigators and more expected to provide interviews in the coming weeks, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
  https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/hunter-biden-federal-investigation-heats-up/index.html
  
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  March 31, 2022 12:47pm
Warren

Thank Christ we have one sane Journalist in New Zealand, Barry Soper that can see the abusethat is happening in our great Country that main stream media obviously think is a joke but see no need to comment.
Barry Soper: Police Parliament Protest,Mental Health- Labour Government abusing its Power are the headlines, so what’s happening to democracy in this Country, let alone the
Transparency that was promised by this Government and in democracy why should MP’s be denied the right to question a public officialwithout any good reason.
Certainly Police Minister Poto Williams wasn’t providing any when I spoke to her on her way into the debating Chamber.
Kudos to Barry Soper because this Government and the Prime Minister have sold their soul s to the devil in the quest to remain in power without those that are powerful enough in New Zealand wanting to question this abuse so come on New Zealander’s stand up and be counted on this dishonesty and blatant abuse of power.
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March 31, 2022 8:02am
- Thought Criminal
  
  However bad you might think the government it. It’s likely far worse.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:27am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Yeah, but it’s time for the ‘hit back’ – apparently the Young Nats are coordinating the online bullying of young female identifying leftie politicos…
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:13am
  - bjools
    
    Yes, I shed a (fake) tear for that story.
    Tell me what was the substance of the story….OOOHH they didn’t say.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:37am
Matt Long

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/barry-soper-police-parliament-protest-mental-health-labour-government-abusing-its-power/DBAGX7G2XNKREEI3VLLC6PT6KQ/
Labour, most transparent government ever. Most transparently trying to cover up their ineptitude.
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March 31, 2022 8:03am
- Simon
  
  Yeah but who is calling the shots? Is it Labour or the bureaucracy? Powerful state bureaucracy over riding the legislative. Too many simple people are MPs vs harden career professionals. Many of the political class appear frighten of leaks or information releases than can come from the bureaucracy.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:20am
  - Ehlana
    
    I don’t think the MPs can blame the bureaucrats on this one. It seems to be a case of the MPs on a Parliamentary committee wanting to question a public servant, but being prevented from doing so by other MPs.
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:50am
  - David Garrett
    
    Simon: You make a valid point. Early on when we were promoting the three strikes (3S) law, we asked Justice officials to come up with some estimates of the impact of the law as proposed on the prison population. The numbers came back: up to a 40% increase.
    
    Rodney and I wondered how the hell we were going to sell that. Long story short, it turned out that the officials had simply made up numbers in the hope of killing the Bill.
    
    When Judith Collins took it over her officials did some proper work, taking “striker” offender numbers over the past 30 years and projecting those numbers forward over the next 30, factoring in the 3S law.
    
    I can’t remember the exact numbers now, but after ten years it was something like 400 extra beds, with a maximum impact of 750 – i.e less than 1% of the prison muster – after 30 years.
    
    Bureaucrats have immense power. As Margaret Thatcher famously said “Yes Minister is a documentary not a comedy.”
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:13am
  - bjools
    
    So it is run along the lines of “Yes Minister”.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:38am
  - greybeard
    
    I agree. In fact this happens in Local Govt as well, as I have commented several times in the last few years.
    This is the gist of an email I sent to Hosking & Plunkett some years ago:
    “I worked for a council for 5 years, after a lifetime of private employers.
    I learned very quickly that the elected councillors had very little to do with the decision-making process: that was the job of group managers, the CEO, and selected ideologically-driven employees.
    And what made it worse, some of those employees were appointed by their managers, and did not go through a competitive selection process where the position was contested by applicants. They may previously have been consultants or part-time ‘advisors’ .
    Many council employees have had little or more likely no private employment experience.
    I also found very quickly that the elected councillors and Mayor were egotists and in several cases bloody thick.”
    
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    March 31, 2022 3:00pm
    - Matt Long
      
      Which explains why people can’t be bothered voting in Local Body Elections.
      
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      March 31, 2022 6:42pm
- Ra Henare
  
  I have been waiting for a Question from National to the PM during question time.
  
  The PM said in her speech after winning the Government benches that she would lead the most transparent government ever…Does she stand by her statement..
  
  The supplementary questions would be VERY interesting!! Let alone the Answers
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:09am
  - Tricati
    
    She also said she would govern for ‘all NZ’, but feel that ain’t happening either – How does that fit with her co-covernance agenda.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:35am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Unfortunately that was promised in her role as Labour leader so it’s outside her purview as Prime Minister – i.e. she doesn’t have to answer.
    
    And as Phil Twyford famously said:
    “you can’t hold Jacinda accountable for promises she made while trying to win the election” (paraphrased but not by much).
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:58am
    - Kneel
      
      But wouldn’t that be a telling and fun reply in itself?
      
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      March 31, 2022 3:11pm
  - Nickc2
    
    At that point, Mallard would have the National/ACT Member ejected from the chamber and Cindy would survive happily ever after as they say in Nursery Rhymes.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:19am
mikenmildagain

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Happy International Transgender Day of Visibility!
Also, don’t forget it is World Backup Day, although most Kiwibloggers seem to easily get their backs up every day of the year.
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March 31, 2022 8:03am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Honestly milkey….you know so little about anything that it’s almost impressive.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:30am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    I wish people would just ignore the Pratt
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:44am
    - kowtow
      
      Agree , it’s a troll .
      
      Down tick to oblivion and never engage .
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:18am
    - Local Miller
      
      This is my policy. I try never respond to any of the trolls, just down tick. Responding is just giving them air (time).
      
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      March 31, 2022 12:02pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Maggie: Oh, I like that one! The guy is like an annoying mosquito on a summer night, when you’ve run out of fly spray.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:14am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      You can always use Oven Spray 😀
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:35am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        I really like the electric “tennis rackets”. Especially in the dark when the little buggers light up. I must have had some trauma as a child……
        
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        March 31, 2022 9:45am
      - Nickc2
        
        Spray-on adhesive’s better but only use it outdoors and don’t point the can in the direction of other people or family pets.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:22am
  - Bridgenag
    
    I downtick without reading…..does he really think anyone bothers……..
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:53am
    - Bevan
      
      While a lot of his posts read as party broadcasts, if you did bother to read prior to down ticking you may have found a few of his recent posts have actually been critical of the current government.
      
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      March 31, 2022 12:52pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  So THAT’S why they chose today as the day to open Trans Gully to the public 😀
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:35am
- graham
  
  Oh good … I was just thinking to myself, what we really need is more visibility of transgenders.
  
  Because, much like vegetarians, they are quiet and self-effacing, never drawing attention to themselves, and eschew any publicity, preferring to keep their heads down and just live their lives quietly.
  
  /sarc
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:14am
  - Hebe123
    
    I think you meant to say Vegans.
    I’ve generally found vegetarians to be just normal people.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:45am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Did you scan and sanitize before you came in today mike?
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:17am
- Raphael
  
  A Story Of Detransitioning | Michael Knowles Interview
  Helena Kerschner, shares her story about being brainwashed and manipulated into transitioning into a man, and the way she saved herself from the radical ideology and her journey as she detransitioned back into a woman.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HbPzJy9gkY
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:23am
- Phronesis
  
  Those transgender individuals who want to reinstall an earlier version of themselves from a backup will find that the treatment they have undergone is irreversible.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:48am
  - Don Beckett
    
    …..and accordingly, an extremely high suicide risk.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:53am
  - alloytoo
    
    This is the terrifying underbelly of the current “Trans” movement.
    
    Confused teenagers being groomed into making life altering decisions.
    
    Soon we will be longing for the eating disorders of the 80’s
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:58am
  - David Garrett
    
    Yes…as.clever as modern reconstructive surgery is I doubt an artificial cock would perform anything like the real thing
    
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    March 31, 2022 12:01pm
    - herb1
      
      In Mikes case I’m sure it would be a massive improvement
      
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      March 31, 2022 12:39pm
- skyblue
  
  Another mental health issue day.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:18am
- I remember when
  
  World Backup Day is a favourite among truck and trailer unit drivers.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:35am
  - alloytoo
    
    It also doubles as self Censorship day….
    
    “beep….beep….beep”
    
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    March 31, 2022 12:01pm
Tomtoddy

https://ondemand.parliament.nz/parliament-tv-on-demand/?itemId=224128

Worth a listen. A speech that more NZ’ers should hear but MSM will not have a bar of it. It was brave and compelling stuff. Well done, Karen Chhour.
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March 31, 2022 8:04am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  She is right the racist Maori party only represent 1 to 2% of the electorate at best.
  
  Yet they are of the thinking that they represent all Maori.
  
  The arrogance is astounding.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:14am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Representing Maori is very profitable.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:02am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I see Tania Tapsell today has also had a go, I hope she gets the gig in Tauranga, she is very bright, attractive and another young woman that makes Ardern look sick
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:34am
- Bridgenag
  
  Would be good if the public knew other members of the ACT party…….well done
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:18am
- Yvette
  
  excerpt –
  Karen Chhour (ACT): … I have recently celebrated 20 years of marriage to my wonderful husband Menglin, who is a Cambodian refugee. His parents are family are some of the bravest and most compassionate people I have met. They have faced atrocities that most of us would never be able to comprehend, and they came here to this country to give their children a better tomorrow in this country where everyone gets an equal chance, and they succeeded.
  
  From this marriage I have four amazing children who share both Māori and Cambodian ancestry. Today the Labour Party would have us believe that there are two types of New Zealanders: tangata whenua, who are here by right; and tangata Tiriti, who are lucky to be here. Well, how are my children supposed to identify themselves by this logic? Half of them is here by right and the other half should just be thankful to be here? If the Labour Party and the Māori Party have their way, my children would be labelled Māori by default and their Cambodian heritage would become insignificant. As far as I’m concerned, my children have the same one in 5 million say as all people born in New Zealand, Cambodian refugees, and many other races who have made New Zealand their home …
  https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20220330_20220330_16
  – third speech
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:22am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The Key paragraph that illustrates the danger of racial politics in multicultural, race-blended NZ.
  
  From this marriage I have four amazing children who share both Māori and Cambodian ancestry. Today the Labour Party would have us believe that there are two types of New Zealanders: tangata whenua, who are here by right; and tangata Tiriti, who are lucky to be here. Well, how are my children supposed to identify themselves by this logic? Half of them is here by right and the other half should just be thankful to be here? If the Labour Party and the Māori Party have their way, my children would be labelled Māori by default and their Cambodian heritage would become insignificant. As far as I’m concerned, my children have the same one in 5 million say as all people born in New Zealand, Cambodian refugees, and many other races who have made New Zealand their home.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:31am
  - Jack5
    
    New Zealand, or at least Maori New Zealand, seems to hav e a “one drop” rule: any proportion of Maori genes, no matter how tiny, and you are Maori.
    
    This mirrors the common standard in the United States before the 1860s Civil War: one drop of African blood and you were Black.
    
    If you are 1/32nd South Island Maori you should be able to choose both being a member of Ngai Tahu and ticking a census questionaire as ” White”, and doing this comfortably.
    
    The one-drop rule comes from the international attitude of the day.
    
    There’s a popular series on YouTube in which people open results from DNA testing services, such as Ancestry.
    
    In America, most, White or Black, seem to want to learn they have Native American genes. In British Whites, the hope seems to be for a touch of Viking genes.
    
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    March 31, 2022 12:38pm
    - cjn
      
      It is my understanding that there is no legal definition of a Maori in NZ. Or rather that there a number of different definitions in different pieces of legislation. No doubt when someone “tidies” this anomaly the result will be that Maori parents will insist on their children marrying a Maori in order to keep their rights to the scholarships etc. The one drop rule was put into law in the early 19 hundreds.Dinesh D’Souza The Big Lie covers it.
      
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      March 31, 2022 2:40pm
- David Garrett
  
  Great speech, and well delivered, despite her being obviously very nervous. Seymour should be bold and let more of his MP’s speak out. For some reason he appears terrified of letting any of them other than himself and his deputy have any of the limelight.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:22am
  - MCōs
    
    He obviously knows them better than you do.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:41am
    - David Garrett
      
      MCos: Indeed. I had never heard of Ms Chour until today – she is clearly an asset to ACT and to parliament generally. What a pity so few MP’s were there to hear her speech.
      
      Incidentally, she mentioned being called “a traitor to [her] race”; Labour absolutely hates so called race and class traitors. I used to get heckled for being a traitor to my class.
      
      Apparently I should have stayed an uneducated oil field worker rather than going back to uni and gaining a couple of degrees.
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:54am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        I’ve seen a fair bit of her press releases (the MSM ignores them) and she is very passionate and actually knows what she’s talking about (her speech about growing up in the system was incredible).
        
        Seymour does actually “let them off their leashes” but the media can’t have us know that ACT is actually pretty deep. Much easier to ignore them and pretend they’re a liability.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:03am
      - kowtow
        
        Yep .
        
        I believe that is one of the reasons so much ire was reserved for Key.
        
        Class traitor you see.
        
        As well as envy of a poor boy made good .
        
        Not to mention such a frightening example to other single parent state house dwellers . Hard work has its own rewards .
        
        Summed up so spitefully by that very bourgeoise knight of the realm , Cullen , “rich prick ” snipe .
        
        And yet by almost any universal standard Cullen himself was a very rich prick.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:41am
      - alloytoo
        
        Aspiration is forbidden for the peasantry, in this way communism/socialism/fascism are not very different from feudal societies, except of course that “isms” “nobility” can’t lift a sword and have poorer manners.
        
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        March 31, 2022 12:07pm
      - Jack5
        
        Perhaps the problem for ACT’s MPs is lack of a channel or vehicle where they can express their opinions and develop their political images.
        
        A web site, called something like ACT speaks, where they could rip into issues and challenge the Leftists and Maori activists given rein to rant in Stuff, the Herald, on State TV, and on State radio.
        
        It wouldn’t be expensive to run, and might become popular. If not, it would be better than silence.
        
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        March 31, 2022 12:42pm
  - Nickc2
    
    He doesn’t want them persecuted by the Govt’s bought and paid for MSM. IMO, it’ll be a different story when ACT is part of a Govt.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:31am
  - James Stephenson
    
    I’ve seen plenty from Karen, Brooke van Velden and their agriculture spokesman who is an actual farmer.
    
    Probably helps that I don’t allow the MSM to gate-keep my media consumption.
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:13am
- Ra Henare
  
  In case you didnt guess. This fella agrees with Karen.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:51am
  - Don Beckett
    
    I think all sensible people agree with Karen, Ra.
    
    (This Karen is certainly not one of the stereotyped “Karens”. 🙂 )
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:00am
Yvette

Co-governance
The debate stems from the controversial He Puapua report, a think piece document commissioned by the Government in 2019 that sets out a roadmap to co-governance between the Crown and Māori by 2040.
The report was commissioned as a response to the former National-led Government signing New Zealand up in 2010 to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People (UNDRIP).
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confirms-public-consultation-on-m-ori-co-governance-will-happen-in-2022.html

At the UN in New York, the Minister of Māori Affairs, the Hon Dr Pita Sharples stated –
In moving to support the Declaration, New Zealand both affirms those rights and reaffirms the legal and constitutional frameworks that underpin New Zealand’s legal system. Those existing frameworks, while they will continue to evolve in accordance with New Zealand’s domestic circumstances, define the bounds of New Zealand’s engagement with the aspirational elements of the Declaration. In particular, where the Declaration sets out aspirations for rights to and restitution of traditionally held land and resources, New Zealand has, through its well-established processes for resolving Treaty claims, developed its own distinct approach … – Hansard
https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/document/49HansD_20100420_00000071/ministerial-statements-un-declaration-on-the-rights-of

He Puapua is a Labour “response” to the UN Indigenous People’s Declaration.
In signing up to that Declaration, National quite clearly stated they were happy with the Treaty of Waitangi to define the bounds of New Zealand’s engagement with the aspirational elements of the Declaration.
Do Labour intend to amend the Treaty, or act outside the bounds of the “principles of the Treaty”?
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March 31, 2022 8:04am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Melanoma is raaacist!

Just imagine the headlines & political screeching if people with skin colour other than pinky-mushroom were so sun afflicted.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/new-study-finds-new-zealand-has-highest-melanoma-death-rate-in-world.html
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March 31, 2022 8:05am
- MCōs
  
  Bob Marley died from a melanoma.
  
  Apart from that you’re drawing a long bow trying to turn that article into some sort of them v us beat up.
  Everyone knows fifteen minutes in the sun here with no protection is about the safe limit whereas Asians cover themselves head to foot out in the open. Plus the sun is safe for much longer periods.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:59am
  - Jack5
    
    MCos, Bob Marley died of acral lentiginous melanoma, which comes from the palm of the hand, the sole of the feet, or often, as in Marley’s case from beneath a toe nail.
    
    Skin colour seem unlikely to have been a factor in Marley’s type of melanoma.
    
    New Zealand has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world, and non-Maori New Zealanders suffer it at five times the rate of Maori.
    
    The fashion for white-skinned but mixed-race New Zealanders to identify as Maori may mean an even greater proportion of skin cancer sufferers in NZ are White than official statistics indicate.
    
    https://www.ehinz.ac.nz/indicators/uv-exposure/melanoma/
    
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    March 31, 2022 1:44pm
    - MCōs
      
      That’s what I said.
      Bob Marley died from a melanoma.
      It’s worth pointing out that his father was pakeha.
      What’s this talk of it being fashionable for ‘white-skinned’ part Māori to identify as Māori?
      What is one supposed to look like to qualify as a particular ethnicity?
      
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      March 31, 2022 6:14pm
      - Jack5
        
        MCos: a poster was commenting on white-skinned people being susceptible to skin cancer, and you raised the example of Bob Marley.
        
        You either didn’t know, or ignored, the fact that Marley’s melanoma was of a type unrelated to effects of sun on skin. His came from a toenail.
        
        Yes, ethnicity isn’t always related to race. Israeli Jews v. Palestine Arabs is an example of that, and another example is Slavic Ukrainians v Slavic Russians.
        
        In New Zealand, for voting purposes, you state which ethnic identity you choose: Maori or non-Maori.
        
        We now have blue-eyed, blond Maori as well as Maori of traditional, or historic, appearance. In delineating statistics of skin cancer, skin colour is important.
        
        If more white-skinned people are identifying as Maori, that means incidence of skin cancer among those identifying as Maori will likely rise.
        
        That it turn would affect a five-to-one ratio of melanoma in non-Maori New Zealanders over melanoma in New Zealanders who identify as Maori. It would suggest 5:1 is an understatement.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:19pm
Benedict Yu

Why are all issues with coastal erosion in New Zealand put down to climate change?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128203042/sad-final-farewells-for-matat-managed-retreat-fighters

The sea is only a few centimetres higher than it was 100 years ago and that gets literally swamped by tides and storm surges.

Also every major storm event and flood is now linked to climate change by the media.

NIWA has a database of major flood and storm events in New Zealand. When I look at the events, the damage and deaths in the period from 1860 to 1970 looks much worse than what we see today.

Also, if the market took sea level rise seriously, all those multi million dollar beach front properties around New Zealand would be plummeting in value. Nope.
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March 31, 2022 8:05am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Do you think property markets are very efficient at pricing long-term risks from natural disasters?
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:07am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Given sea level rise in Auckland is around 2-3mm pa and isn’t increasing I’d suggest all the owners of beach front property in Auckland have priced in ‘long-term risks’.
    In contrast, looking at Te Awanga in HB, values have dropped due to erosion exposing the houses to high risk, so they have too.
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:31am
    - Colville
      
      LOL.
      Te Awanga dropping in price? are you kidding? the place has gone ballistic in the last couple of years.
      A tiny beachfront place that was only good to gut and completely reno ($500K reno) just went for $1.82mil. (I thought at $1.4 I was silly!)
      The new subdivision which isnt beachfront is circa $1mil a site.
      
      TA/Clifton/Haumoana is at risk of dropping thru a seismic event .. like 1931/ 1.5 METERS drop…if that happens 2mm a year wont matter!!
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:47am
  - Rodney Hide
    
    Yes. It’s literally everyone, with their own money, knowing the actual property, compared to bureacrats and politicians with no money at risk, no local knowledge with their long term view their tweets that day.
    
    Rodney Hide
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:37am
    - alloytoo
      
      Gosh, it’s as if markets perform better than central planners.
      
      Who would have thunk it.
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:06am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Markets will be excellent at determining risks over 30 – 50 years because the banks and insurers will be highly incentivised to factor in climate risks.
    
    But my main point remains – the harm done by climate related events in New Zealand is less today than 100 years ago, especially in relation to deaths. There is simply no evidence that storms and floods are worse due to climate change..
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:51am
  - westernScientist
    
    Thats the thing, the market does price it appropriately given the constraints the market operates under. Just because you or I disagree with the market value, doesn’t mean the market value is wrong, it just means a lot more people (and currency) in the market value the risk differently to us. Sometimes this results in a bargain from a personal point of view, sometimes it results in a rip off, depending on how our own personal biases differ from the markets overall sentiment.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:02am
  - cmm
    
    Free markets are only free if there is quality information.
    
    The bullshit around sea level rise is distorting the market.
    
    In NZ sea level changes are almost entirely caused by seismic activity. Ask the people of Kaikoura if they’re worried about a 2cm change over 100 years when the level changes a metre or more in a few seconds.
    
    The 1855 Wellington EQ caused a 1.5m uplift – changing a shipping basin into a cricket ground, as well as creating a lot of the surface area that is modern Wellington.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:45am
- Master Mariner
  
  I wonder how long before insurance premiums in ” Flood Zones” becomes uninsurable.
  
  NIWA has been contracted by Councils to access flooding risk and scaremonger residents which is despicable.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:28am
  - Hebe123
    
    Depending on how you define “uninsurable”, they already are. In Chch in the flood prone areas along certain rivers, homeowners have mandatory $10k+ excesses. For many, that’s effectively uninsurable.
    
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    March 31, 2022 2:04pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The ocean will rise 100th of 1% over the next 300 fucking years – DJT.
  https://rumble.com/vypfji-crowd-goes-wild-as-trump-drops-f-bomb.html?
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Did not seem to worry Obama with his $15M property at Martha’s Vineyard.
  Where do you get US$15M on a POTUS salary??
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:42am
  - RichardX
    
    You write books and have speaking engagements.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:13am
  - David Garrett
    
    Steve: You don’t. But you get it from lucrative speaking engagements and company directorships after you have retired.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:25am
    - James Stephenson
      
      Being a Senator is licence to print money in the first place, what with the lobbying and backhanders that are standard and apparently complete immunity from insider-trading laws.
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:57am
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        “…what with the lobbying and backhanders that are standard and apparently complete immunity from insider-trading laws.”
        
        Precisely, and this is the obvious answer to Steve’s “Where do you get US$15M on a POTUS salary?” Books and speaking engagements? Lol. What are speaking engagements other than thinly disguised components of quid pro quos? There are fortunes to be made from selling out one’s country.
        
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        March 31, 2022 11:37am
    - Matt Long
      
      And investment firms will achieve very good results with your money and ensure that there is nothing to see for regulators.
      
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      March 31, 2022 11:45am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You also get it by diverting US Govt behaviour to get deals done for other Countries, in other Countries, which then gets kickbacks.
      Pallet loads of cash – it works both ways you know
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:29pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Always wanted to go to a Bill Clinton speech – good thing I didn’t, he was always programmed by you know who.
      
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      March 31, 2022 2:57pm
  - RichardX
    
    https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/2/14779892/barack-michelle-obama-65-million-book-deal-penguin-random-house
    
    That sort of advance should cover it.
    
    You probably could have found this out yourself Steve, but you’d rather repeat the meme.
    
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    March 31, 2022 12:42pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      What meme? I posted a vid clip with Trump giving a speech at yet another rally. Trump may have been paid for this but I Doubt it.
      Barry and Mike wrote a book and got $65M?
      
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      March 31, 2022 2:47pm
  - Paulus
    
    Ibelieve there is at least another property near Washington DC where they live at $40 million.
    Good Socialists.
    
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    March 31, 2022 2:18pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Chardonay Socialists, Limousine Liberals, Mastercard Marxists
      
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      March 31, 2022 2:49pm
- kowtow
  
  When the Media Pardy run “climate change” stories which events are inevitably caused by normal climatic conditions , they are engaging in misinformation , disinformation and quite frankly it has a foreign feel or influence .
  
  Even the current floods over in Oz are the result of a combination of a number of normal climatic conditions . Nothing to do with “climate change”.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:49am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    Whenever they hammer “climate change” or “covid crises” or any other thing-of-the-moment (e.g. Ukraine) the media are not giving information, they are changing and forming public perceptions and seeding the public mind concerning what to expect in the future through the deployment of careful messaging.
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:41am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Rodion its called manufacturing consent as I’m sure you’re aware.
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:46pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Prop got something to do with ‘weather’
    
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    March 31, 2022 2:55pm
- I remember when
  
  Clive Bibby wrote a very good letter to ‘The Gisborne Herald’ about their latest spell of easterly weather.
  He bases it on his experiences of having lived on a farm in the region for 42 years.
  Worth a read.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:45am
- rockape
  
  Google North Sea floods 1953. I was only seven years old but remember it as my father was the company commander of the last amphibious company of DUKWs in the uk and was hauled out of a family holiday to help in the rescue. It’s also where I got my first dog an English bull terrier he rescued from an overflowing river. So we did have catastrophic flooding 70+ years ago.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Of course we did, I remember the Canterbury rivers were always flooded during the 80s ho north to sports events
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:21am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Yes I love it when they say its the worst ( insert climatic event) for X amount of years. The very fact that something equal or worse happened X amount of years ago rather disproves the insinuation that its the result of climate change. “Since records began” is another chestnut when touted in New Zealand to the point of hilarity. ” Its a once in X hundred year event” I could go on but I’m sure we all get the BS.
    
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    March 31, 2022 1:52pm
- rosscob
  
  Thank you B Y for your considered comment. Many NZers I spoken to have no understanding of the truth and rely as always on MSM lies. The Matata situation has nothing to do with sea level change or coastal erosion. All the BS about climate change would not save Matata. The storm certainly dumped a large amount of water (120 olympic sized swimming pools is totally irrelevant). The recent forestry activity left large amounts of fresh slash which washed in behind the creek bed boulders creating a dam. Fresh slash holds stronger that old rotten slash hence the build up. The dam pressure bought the boulder and slash debri into the residential area., hence the damage. Sure it won’t happen again, until the current pine trees are dropped, the slash is left to wash into the creek and it all happens again. Next time will it take the road and the rail bridge? That’s right, the bureaucrats who spent everyone else’s money will be gone, no accountability, but oh wait on, the next one will be Climate Change, lies and innuendo reign. I live with walking distance, have massive sea views in the best part of the country and the market has certainly looked after my investment.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:08pm
Tricati

I thought I was listening to a piece from the Kremlin when I heard about Mark Mitchell being banned from meeting Senior Police. Usual crap from Megan Woods and Poto Williams that when National in government they prevented Nash from meeting top police. Barry Soper say’s that’s crap, and the only time Nash couldn’t meet police was at Kaikoura Police Station at time of the earthquakes and that was understandable.
This, and the government blocking opposition MP’s calling Foster before the Justice Select Committee along with preventing questions at the Health Select Committee over the recently released Mental Health Report appears to parallel that of Putin’s ‘block information that’s bad’ playbook we are currently witnessing over Ukraine.
I guess MSM questioning Luxon over his views on abortion are of a greater democratic need, or maybe I’m just being cynical in thinking that questioning Luxon is an orchestrated distraction from an authoritarian regime that feels they are above being questioned, or are in deep crap.
They really are the worst government I have endured, and have taken political arrogance to new levels.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/barry-soper-police-parliament-protest-mental-health-labour-government-abusing-its-power/DBAGX7G2XNKREEI3VLLC6PT6KQ/
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March 31, 2022 8:05am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The NZ government under the “single source of truth” usurped the Kremlin and North Korea as a source of nothing but propaganda quite some time ago.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:05am
- wreck1080
  
  “They really are the worst government I have endured”
  
  Helen Clark was pretty bad, but, yes, this is the worst government ever. By a large margin.
  
  Regardless of whether one agrees with labour policies, they have a complete inability to implement their goals (prime exhibit: kiwibuild).
  
  Labour must be the most incompetent political party in modern history.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:21am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    wreck1080 I agree they are the worst government ever but every cloud has a silver lining. They are also such a shower of inarguable shite that we can point to them for decades to come as to what happens if you vote / trust Labour or the leftwing. My 29 year old son told me that not one of his lefty circle supports them anymore, they despise her and in many cases are looking at Act! This is amongst Victoria University students and post grads.
    
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    March 31, 2022 1:59pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Straight out of stalins song sheet
  
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  March 31, 2022 11:22am
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-dying-dad-pleaded-for-food-for-family-called-auckland-councillor-for-help/EC2M4C7HAFVR33ZNF4EM6BH4RE/

Love – your party is in power now. Why don’t you criticize them for assisting greatly a cost of living crisis. I’m surprised the term “9 years of neglect” wasn’t bandied around.

The Labour party has no shame.
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March 31, 2022 8:05am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Josephine Bartley has been in the news a lot lately. She was interviewed last week over the shooting of six people in Glen Innes.
  
  Perhaps she’s looking to boost her profile in the hope that she might become Deputy Mayor to Efeso Collins…
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:38am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    I was wondering that too. Her media article photo looked like blatant politicizing
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:20am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The most disturbing thing other than NZers struggling to feed their families is the Herald implying that this young father died of covid. I would be astonished if this was the case.
  At the start of the story they say he died “with” covid. Half way through they say he died “from” covid.
  This is at best, extremely shoddy journalism but it seems deliberately done to imply more covid deaths than are actually happening. They just can’t help themselves, using any tragedy to create clickbait headlines. Obnoxious.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:45am
  - kowtow
    
    Given that they have used his death and medical ( with covid) status to push a political agenda , they should now stump up and detail his actual medical circumstances , in order not to cause fear , uncertainty and ignorance around the pandemic.
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:52am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      I’ve emailed one of the journalists asking them for clarification. If I get a response I’ll post it on KB.
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:07am
      - MCōs
        
        Why don’t you call Ms Bartley direct?
        I’m sure you can find her number.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:27am
    - alloytoo
      
      Given the government’s shoddy treatment of folks who have contracted Covid, I’d be careful of pushing any agenda.
      
      I received a single text telling me I was positive and inviting me to visit their website to complete contact tracing. They said somebody would contact me if I wasn’t able to/didn’t do it.
      
      Didn’t do it, still waiting.
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:12am
      - MCōs
        
        The system relies on a degree of cooperation.
        You obviously are able to visit their website.
        Stop complaining.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:13am
- MCōs
  
  I doubt that Ms Bartley appreciates you referring to her as ‘love’, Mr the Tank.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:16am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Zero fucks given
    
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    March 31, 2022 12:10pm
Yvette

Co-governance – another whack at it –
In July last year, Māori Development Minister Willie Jackson announced plans to consult with Māori on He Puapua before engaging with the wider public. The engagement with iwi and Māori organisations is now complete.
Jackson, in a statement to Newshub, said Cabinet was yet to meet to discuss the next steps on the development of the draft Declaration plan for UNDRIP.
“I will have more to say once that has occurred,” Jackson said. “I will then report back to Cabinet mid-year with the draft Declaration Plan for approval before embarking on a wider (full) public consultation process on the draft Declaration Plan.”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confirms-public-consultation-on-m-ori-co-governance-will-happen-in-2022.html

Jackson said. “I will then report back to Cabinet mid-year with the draft Declaration Plan
So Jackson (a Maori), having consulted with Maori, will discuss that with Cabinet (the Crown) and they will formulate an approved draft Declaration Plan to then consult with non-Maori.

Is this not co-governance to discuss co-governance. Think about it.
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March 31, 2022 8:07am
- Tricati
  
  Yvette, this and your 8:04am post presents the issue perfectly, and should be compulsory reading for all.
  It would be good if National, or Act, would challenge both Ardern and Jackson on these points as I feel their only response would be to recite the ‘racist’ call as they don’t have a cogent argument to take to the electorate and the claytons call of public consultation is purely obfuscation.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:33am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Think about it.
  
  Yep, every other citizen of this fair land is excluded from the discussion.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:36am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    The Pae Ora Bill literally refers to any person who is non-Maori as “Other Populations”, go figure.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:06am
    - kowtow
      
      How “inclusive” is that ?
      
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      March 31, 2022 9:16am
    - zulumonster
      
      Confusingly they actually refer to “Other Populations and other people” … whatever that means!
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:14pm
- pdm
  
  Yvette – Willie Jackson the `organ grinder’ pulling the strings of Mahuta and the rest of the `so called’ Labour Maori Caucus on He Puapua and 3Waters.
  
  A man dangerous to New Zealands future democracy and with an Agenda that is totally at odds with the well being of all but about 15% of the New Zealand population.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:06am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    I doubt he even has the well being of Maoridom in his sights. The tribal elite (academics, activist and politicians) have their personal wellbeing front and centre. The Joe Average man in the street part Maori is cannon fodder for their agenda.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:08am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      I would go further than that say that the drivers of co-governance are in fact instrumental useful idiots. What is the effect of “co-governance”? Yes, Maori gain more power, but concomitantly, others (i.e. predominantly European-derived New Zealanders) lose power. It is a binary equation. In my estimation, the latter consequence is more significant than the former, and is in fact the aim.
      
      I have made this point on several previous occasions, but most of the “pro-” movements throughout the Western world are merely badly disguised “anti-” movements, aligned and aimed at weakening the established orders. Think of what these revolutionary movements target. In general character, the established orders they oppose tend to be, principally:
      
      White European (countered with “pro-immigration” and “diversity” policies);
      
      Male (“pro-Feminist”),
      
      Heterosexual (“pro-LGBTQI”),
      
      Christian-derived (“pro-secularism”)
      
      It follows that, if the goal is subversion and radical re-configurement of the societies where these characteristics are prevalent, these are the vectors of attack. Whatever form a particular “pro-” movement takes is really far less significant than its function, which is subverting its intended target.
      
      Consider:
      
      “UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples” – target: nations previously colonised by Europeans (further supported by the fact that indigenous Europeans don’t enjoy much overt rights-advocacy in Europe, with the notion even being explicitly repudiated)
      
      “UN Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration” – target: Western nations that are still, and have been historically, demographically dominated by White European people.
      
      https://www.thetaskforce.org/un-adopts-groundbreaking-resolution-affirming-lgbt-rights-are-human-rights/
      
      “The Task Force hails the UN Human Rights Council’s adoption today of a groundbreaking resolution addressing acts of violence and discrimination against LGBT people. It is the first official UN resolution to focus exclusively on human rights, sexual orientation and gender identity.” – target: the normative and (currently) descriptive predominance of heterosexuality in the developed world.
      
      Added to this, the general social trend towards secularism and the mockery, marginalisation and denunciation of the Christian religion (ongoing since the 1960s, in particular).
      
      What is the motivation? Breaking down resistance to the systematic removal and replacement of what are by-and-large considered Western ideals and Western expressions of social organisation. It is apparent to anyone with eyes and ears that there has been, at least since the WW2 era, a push towards post-nationalist thinking and centralised global governance. This push has increased in scope and speed in direct proportion to the “de-Westernisation” of societies, and has reached warp speed in the last 2 years in particular. It is understood that, of all peoples, those of European extraction are the most likely to oppose the program of hyper-centralisation of government, because it is the antithesis of a general Western tendency towards valuing and institutionalising personal liberty, robust individualism, self-governance and smaller administrative units.
      
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      March 31, 2022 12:27pm
  - westernScientist
    
    I suspect the proportion of the population which will be better off under this proposal is much lower than 15%
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:10am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I wouldn’t want to dwell to much on the mind picture of Willie Jackson grinding his organ 😀
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:28am
- westernScientist
  
  Except that it is just governance from on of those “co-governance” parties. Does anyone really think that a submission from the dirty peasants will get read, let alone considered? Only the elite get a say, and they have already been “consulted”
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:08am
Simon

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Massive US loss in Ukraine as the ground fighting goes on. Russia/India/China economic alliance is devastating. Its the British Empire losing Singapore 1942 moment for the American Empire.

NZ as a satellite country within the failing American Empire. What next for the former member of the British Empire into US Empire? Some sort of union with China.
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March 31, 2022 8:13am
- virtualmark
  
  Still going Simonovich?
  
  I mean I am quaking in my boots about the Russia/India/China economic alliance. Remind me again, where is that agreement? Can I read a copy somewhere?
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:26am
  - Batman
    
    Maybe if he can’t provide that, he could point to a single massive loss for the US inside Ukraine?
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:23am
- kowtow
  
  Don’t be silly .
  
  The Ukrainians are standing up relatively amazingingly to the Russkies .
  
  partly, at least thanks to training and equipment from the USA and UK. Prior to Biden btw.
  
  Ukraine pilots trained in the US or by them are keeping the Red airforce on guard while the UK has trained some 20 000 Ukraine soldiers , not to mention the tank busting gear.
  
  Whatever the outcome on the ground in Ukraine the Great Russian bear’s reputation comes out hammered and it’s less bear and more mangey old toothless dog.
  
  China ? Only held together by fear and force .
  
  India . Too poor and divided to ever be a truly great power.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:42am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Interesting that you say Ukraine pilots trained in the US. ALL Ukrainian aircraft are Russian!!
    So sorta debunks your claim somewhat.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:02am
    - Batman
      
      You think there are absolutely no Russian aircraft in the US? Hmmmm, ok.
      
      Aside from that, you don’t need to fly your plane to undergo both basic and advanced tactical and strategic training. Pilots do spend a fair bit of time in the classroom.
      
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      March 31, 2022 10:25am
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘you don’t need to fly your plane to undergo both basic and advanced tactical and strategic training’
        Yes you do.
        The US Air Forces train to be at their target within 30-50 seconds of the time allocated on the Mission. This is to allow extensive coordination of multiple assets.
        They can only do that with extensive air time and the US does more of it than anyone else.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:45am
    - kowtow
      
      My source is the UK Daily Telegraph .
      
      But here , google is your friend.
      
      “In training areas in Ukraine and California, the Army Guard and Air Guard in California worked to develop Ukrainian capabilities. If they didn’t have the capability, Baldwin worked with National Guard units around the United States to make sure Ukrainian service members got the training they needed”
      
      https://www.army.mil/article/254878/ukraine_california_ties_show_worth_of_national_guard_program
      
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      March 31, 2022 10:56am
    - Nickc2
      
      Not necessarily Ra. Perhaps Air Warfare Tactics (including Command, Control, Communications and Evaluation) was taught in the US albeit as abridged by Security implications.
      
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      March 31, 2022 12:43pm
    - virtualmark
      
      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44965/u-s-f-15-pilot-on-what-it-is-like-fighting-against-ukraines-fighter-pilots
      
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      March 31, 2022 6:44pm
  - James Stephenson
    
    As several very good analysts have noted, Russia have the wrong armed forces for this conflict. They’ve spent up large on 5th-Gen fighters, ballistic missiles and an aircraft carrier, plus corruption has seemingly taken a big bite out of preventative maintenance.
    
    On the other hand we have Ukraine, with no ambitions to play in the global arms market, no requirement to project force, no international dick-measuring competition to enter. They looked at what their military was needed for and obviously decided it needed to do one job – defend against a potential Russian invasion. Looks like they spent their defence budget pretty effectively.
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:04am
  - cjn
    
    I did not mean to give you a tick. Consider yourself one short. What I meant to say was: Do you see any connection between your information about the USA and the UK arming and training Ukrainians and Russia being pissed off?
    
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    March 31, 2022 2:55pm
- Bevan
  
  LOL, India and China in an alliance….
  
  Meanwhile, India is part of the Quad – an actual alliance directed at containing China.
  
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  March 31, 2022 12:56pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Strewth. A live Ruskie on site. Welcome to the free world, Noddy. Now run away and discover your conscience.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:09pm
Tomtoddy

The Financial Markets Authority has stepped in to stop a housing development in Flat Bush because it offered a 15% return p.a. for three years. I am not able to say the offer met the precise terms and conditions required in making an offer to wholesale investors but gosh, 15% isn’t that flash for a return on housing development.

It sounds more like a new broom – the recently appointed CEO – trying to make a name for herslf. She already says their are too many risky ventures proposed under the wholesale investors provisions. The idea that if you are an experienced investor with plenty of readies but you cant figure out a crook deal seems to be heading south.

Why are we hellbent on removing all the risk around us? Creating a generation of pansies. No fun anymore.
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March 31, 2022 8:17am
- dubya
  
  Toxic femininity, I put it down to helicopter mums moving out of the PTA and into public roles. Look at the dreadful PM and her no risk, no reward mantra.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:37am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Hell bent on impoverishing the country. Leave now if you are young and innovative.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:12am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  You need to think like a long term beneficiay Tom – no risk, great gain. Risk = bad for the left. It’s why this gov’t did nothing until they had an absolute majority to do nothing good with… except for themselves.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:39am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Tom, of course it is the new CEO pissing against a post, but I’d caveat that by saying she is an exceptionally bright lady, and has already made a name for herself.
  However, I would have thought that judging risk has nothing to do with the FMA, as everyone, including those that are experienced investors, have different risk profiles.
  And you are right, 15%? Pffft.
  
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  March 31, 2022 8:54am
wreck1080

PM for a day idea, change the law to allow those on a restricted drivers license to drive their siblings.

I agree with not allowing young drivers to hoon around with a bunch of yahoo mates (just about everyone we know allow their kids to do this anyway). But blocking siblings from catching a ride to school in the wet weather?
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March 31, 2022 8:30am
Maggie Pie

I hate cricket. My partner watched the entire Shane Warne state funeral thing but I couldn’t be bothered.
It went on for nearly 4 hours!

He was telling me before the most TRAGIC thing about it was Elton John’s wig.

LOL!!
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March 31, 2022 8:38am
virtualmark

So yesterday Trump called for Putin to release info on Hunter Biden. “As long as Putin is not exactly a fan of our country” … so because Putin hates the United States he should help Trump?! Basically, if Putin wants to hurt the US then he should do what Trump asks.

Are we all agreed here that Putin is a war criminal, a murderer, a dictator? So there seem to be two possible responses:
(a) This man cannot remain in power.
(b) Please help me Vladimir.

Are you choosing (a) or (b)?

“Russia, if you’re listening”. “I would like you do us a favour”. “Help me war criminal”. With Russian state TV’s leading presenter saying it’s time for Russia to “again help our friend Donald Trump”.

If you think the Russia thing is a hoax then you’ve been conned, by a world-class conman who’s working for the world’s leading propaganda machine.
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March 31, 2022 8:39am
- Batman
  
  You’re 100% correct VM but sadly you’ll never break through the reality bubble that always reinforces and never ever questions.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:27am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘Reality bubble’!
    Lol, you two losers are in denial and have no evidence of any collusion between Trump and Putin/Russia.
    If you think that a few trolling comments is evidence then you are a moron- which probably explains why you two have been wrong about everything.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:40am
    - virtualmark
      
      Red, Trump is just an orange version of the Nigerian prince scams. “I’m a billionaire”. “I need your money”. “Send me your money”.
      
      Its. A. Grift.
      
      You do know that Trump despises people like you right? If you tried to get into Mar A Lago he’d have you thrown out in a heartbeat. He would squash you in a moment if it delivered any sort of tiny benefit to him.
      
      Meanwhile you adore him.
      
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      March 31, 2022 2:05pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The Left has no sense of humour. They didn’t even laugh when Trump asked Putin to publish Hilary’s emails.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:12pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Well, I’m by no means from the Left.
    
    And I’m equally happy to point out the Vichy Left as well as the Vichy Right.
    
    For example, today on Russia 1 (Russian state TV, equivalent of TVNZ1 in New Zealand) they showed a clip of Tulsi Gabbard being interviewed by Tucker Carlson. She was introduced by the host as “Our girlfriend Tulsi.” After the clip played one of panelists asked “Is she some sort of a Russian agent?”. The host quickly replied “Yes.”
    
    And I believe he’d be right … look at Tulsi Gabbard’s statements and ask how a Kremlin agent would do anything different.
    
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    March 31, 2022 2:03pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      … ask how a Kremlin agent would do anything different.
      
      Serve in the military in Iraq and Kuwait? Be a member of the Democrat National Committee? Support Bernie Sanders. Endorse Joe Biden?
      
      Well, I’m by no means from the Left.
      
      No, I’d guess you support free trade agreements, business deregulation, reduced government spending and lower taxes.
      
      At the same time you likely support anything that’s considered socially “liberal”. You’re a White Economic Right/Socially Left kind of guy that was spawned by the 1980’s and flourished in the 1990’s. Frankly that was probably me as well.
      
      Unfortunately for you the continental plates of your technocratic, global world, have started to shift dramatically in the last few years and continue to do so.
      
      Both Gabbard (who as an Iraq veteran is not impressed by US involvement in foreign wars and US intelligence claims) and Trump (whose attacks on China and off-shoring are now being repeated in Democrat campaigns) are symptoms of that shift as new alliances are created – and old ones destroyed. As just one example non-college educated whites voted 2 to 1 for JFK in 1960. Biden’s vote consisted of just 27% of them. The top 10 wealthiest congressional districts in the USA are all held by Democrats. Seven of the ten richest counties in the US are the ones near Washington D.C.
      
      That is not a sustainable political situation, especially for the Democrats. They can only go on screaming “Latinx” and “Gonna put y’all back in chains” for so long before the illusion shatters. It’s why Dem states and cities are losing so many people: their ideas of how run those places suck for Middle and Low-income people.
      
      And this is beside your calls for an overwhelming dominance of the Democrats in the House and Senate, plus packing the Supreme Court, plus giving Puerto Rico and Washington D.C. statehood so that the Democrats end up with permanent control of the Senate.
      
      For all the claims about how the GOP is to the right of National here in NZ, that sort of support for the Democrat Party of today (a very different and very leftist beast compared to the days of JFK) certainly don’t mark you out as a Right winger.
      
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      March 31, 2022 3:29pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Tom, my voting history has oscillated between Act and National. Never voted for a left-wing candidate in my life.
        
        But I value decent, smart, grounded, honest people. And over the last 5 years there’s been precious few of those sort of people here on Kiwiblog.
        
        Most of the contributors here are drawn from the right-most 5% of the NZ political spectrum. Most of the viewpoints of the 5% of people at the edge (either left or right) are nuts. If a country – any country – were to make its decisions and plans based on those 5% at the edge (either left or right) it would end disastrously.
        
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        March 31, 2022 7:50pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Oh, and Tom, if you want a US comparison … I’d say my political positioning is in line with Eisenhower and George Bush Snr (to point to US Presidents, as easily understandable examples).
        
        But I sure would be interested to see what Eisenhower and Bush Snr would make of today’s GOP.
        
        I did quite like George W Bush’s take on Trump though … “That was some weird shit”.
        
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        March 31, 2022 8:13pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      “Well, I’m by no means from the Left.”
      
      Bwahahahahah…(gasp for air)…wahahahaha. Whew.
      
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      March 31, 2022 5:14pm
      - RichardX
        
        Are you OK Don?
        Breathlessness and laughing at inappropriate times could be signs of physical and / or mental decline.
        
        Unless of course you have evidence that Virtualmark is in fact from the left.
        
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        March 31, 2022 6:01pm
      - virtualmark
        
        I’m a rare breed nowadays … a political moderate who’s fiscally conservative, socially liberal, and doesn’t trust the fringes of either side of the spectrum.
        
        But the demographics of Kiwiblog today is that anyone to the left of Genghis Khan is a commie.
        
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        March 31, 2022 6:11pm
I remember when

From the War on Covid:
Died 19 August 2021.
Funeral service will be on the 9 April, 2022.
Lest we forget.
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March 31, 2022 8:48am
Maggie Pie

And what’s with ‘The Hosk’ having a regular weekly slot on his ZB breakfast show with that smarmy horrible foul-mouthed Aussie…Kevin Rudd?

SHEESH!!
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March 31, 2022 8:51am
- kowtow
  
  yer , Hosk seems to think that guy has a clue . When all he does is slag orf Scomo , promote himself and makes constant references to “climate change”
  
  What a twat.
  
  Some people are easily impressed.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:13am
- graham
  
  Probably to fill the slots vacated by those ministers from the “most open, honest, and transparent Government ever ™” who decided they no longer wished to avail themselves of the biggest radio platform to explain to the people what they were doing – Jacinda Ardern, Stuart Nash …
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:21am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It’s not a weekly slot, although he talked to Rudd last week. Today was to get Rudd’s take on China in the South Pacific, which was fair enough given Rudd knows quite a bit about China and its unique way of doing politics.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:31am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    “Those Chinese f**ker’s are trying to rat-f**k us!”
    
    – Kevin Rudd
    
    (From David Marr’s book ‘Power Trip: The Political Journey of Kevin Rudd)
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:44am
  - kowtow
    
    Speaks mandarin but that can’t make him an expert on the CCP .
    
    In the Hosk intview he said something like “I don’t know what the ‘internalities’ of the Solomon /China deal are”
    
    Internalities ?
    
    yep , smug , smarmy , slimeball is what Kevin Bloody Rudd is , and honestly you learn nothing from the int’vw other than to confirm those 3 s.
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:13am
    - Nickc2
      
      You’re correct with your description of Rudd. I worked in Aust throughout his and Gillard’s reign of Communist/Socialist indoctrination. You can rest assured, that if there’s not a word to suit his narrative, he’ll invent one. This is show he’s a cut above the rest of Aust.
      He’s also a foul-mouthed ranter and desk thumper when things don’t go according to his dictates.
      When he was given the arse from politics, he wanted the then PM (Tony Abbot I think from memory) to recommend him for some soft but prestigious job at the UN. Needless to say, that didn’t happen and another tantrum occurred I believe.
      I wouldn’t trust him to feed the neighbour’s cat to be honest.
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:19pm
      - Nickc2
        
        An add-on to my post above. If you listened to that Rudd cretin this morning, you would have noticed how often he threw in the words ‘climate change’. That’s all to assist his mate ‘Therapeutic Albo’ (Anthony Albanese, leader of the opposition in Aust) in the upcoming election in Aust. Scott Morrison (current Aust PM) is lukewarm on Climate Change whereas Albanese sees it as a vote winner.
        PS: Albo was given the name Therapeutic Albo because of his habit of scurrying away in the middle of the day in Sydney to an Asian Massage Parlour for an alleged ‘Therapeutic’ Massage.
        
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        March 31, 2022 1:42pm
All_on_Red

When WAPO comes for a favoured son of the top Democrat then something is up…
‘While many aspects of Hunter Biden’s financial arrangement with CEFC China Energy have been previously reported and were included in a Republican-led Senate report from 2020, a Washington Post review confirmed many of the key details and found additional documents showing Biden family interactions with Chinese executives.

Over the course of 14 months, the Chinese energy conglomerate and its executives paid $4.8 million to entities controlled by Hunter Biden and his uncle, according to government records, court documents and newly disclosed bank statements, as well as emails contained on a copy of a laptop hard drive that purportedly once belonged to Hunter Biden….
…But the new documents — which include a signed copy of a $1 million legal retainer, emails related to the wire transfers, and $3.8 million in consulting fees that are confirmed in new bank records and agreements signed by Hunter Biden — illustrate the ways in which his family profited from relationships built over Joe Biden’s decades in public service.’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-china-laptop/
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March 31, 2022 8:59am
- Tom Hunter
  
  You know it’s bad when the WaPo is on Putin’s payroll. 😉
  
  Oh well, all this probably means they’re now trying to get ahead of news of actual criminal indictments of Hunter.
  
  The thing to remember of course, is that nobody would have ever paid Hunter Biden all that money for his services.
  
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  March 31, 2022 12:04pm
Warren

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/parliament-protest-donations-went-into-bank-account-of-man-with-history-of-unpaid-debt/R42YDV3EMXIGHEF2CR25L6XZM4/
This is what undermines all the good intentions of those that thought the Prime Ministers unfair mandates were worth protesting about.
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March 31, 2022 8:59am
- ClanMcleod
  
  No it doesn’t. It’s just another mainstream media smear of anyone who had anything to do with opposing Ardern’s mandates and vax passes. Read it again. Zero evidence of any wrong doing by any of the organisations or people named. Lots of innuendo about “murky” sources of funding.
  The fact you don’t see it immediately for what it is, a hit piece, is part of the problem in this country. People still trust the media. The mainstream media in NZ are a generally a bunch of overpaid shills and hacks. The most untrustworthy group of journalists I’ve come across in 50 years.
  
  Yes, it looks like he has a past. No, I am not defending him. Because there is nothing to defend. There are implications and smears, there are no actual allegations of wrongdoing and there is certainly no evidence presented.
  If they have something to show then give it to the police and prosecute him. But your amplifying this baseless media attack is a large part of the problem and helps this government control this narrative via these poodles and shills.
  Call it out for what is. Baseless smear and disinformation.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:20am
Tony Stuart

It hasn’t been Poto Williams’ best week. Not only has Barry Soper exposed her as untruthful this morning, but she made herself a laughing stock during Question Time. Apologies in advance for the length, but the full exchange between her and Mark Mitchell is important for context:

Question No. 12—Police
12. Hon MARK MITCHELL (National—Whangaparāoa) to the Minister of Police: Does she stand by her statement “the reality is that this Government has never been more active in targeting the gangs and criminal leaders and getting them off the streets”; if so, how does she reconcile that statement with the over 40 percent increase in gang membership since October 2017?

Hon POTO WILLIAMS (Minister of Police): I thank the member for his question—the same question he asked me yesterday. In answer to the first part of the member’s question, yes. This Government is committed to combating the harm caused by gangs and organised crime through a variety of measures which I outlined yesterday. In answer to the member’s second question, the member is referring to the national gang list—an intelligence tool designed to give police a high level understanding of the gang environment. It was never designed to be an accurate statistical count of gang membership in New Zealand. This Government will continue to support police in their work to disrupt organised crime and gang membership.

Hon Mark Mitchell: Why did the Minister not establish a well-resourced, dedicated national gang task force when the Labour Government was called on by National three years ago to do so; and does she think that it might have helped prevent the over 40 percent rise in gang membership and the 21 percent increase in violent crime?

Hon POTO WILLIAMS: I stand by the record investment that this Government has made into increasing police numbers: 1,800, to be exact, 700 of which will be targeted towards organised crime. If that is not a specific group to deal with organised crime, I am not sure what is. We’ve already recruited 300 and we are well on our way to having the dedicated 700 members of that organised crime group by June next year.

Hon Mark Mitchell: Has gang violence increased or decreased under her watch?

Hon POTO WILLIAMS: There is no doubt that violence and gang tensions are a feature of our community and we have to do everything we can to ensure that we deal with that, and we do that by ensuring the police have the resources that they need—a record $450 million increase into their budget. Which I might remind that member, under their Government they froze police funding, which meant there was a drop in police numbers. We are committed to 1,800 further police and we are committed to also further legislative support to ensure that our police can keep our communities as safe as possible.

Hon Mark Mitchell: Point of order?

SPEAKER: I think I can anticipate it, but have a go.

Hon Mark Mitchell: Can I ask the question again, Mr Speaker?

SPEAKER: Yes.

Hon Mark Mitchell: Thank you. Has gang violence increased or decreased under her watch?

Hon POTO WILLIAMS: I reject the premise of that question, because in order to keep our communities safe, we must ensure that our police are resourced to do so. Now, I’d like to remind that member yet again—yet again—that, under National, police numbers dropped because they froze funding. You cannot do more with less, Mr Mitchell. You must make sure your police are resourced to do the job that is in front of them, and that’s what we are doing.

Hon Mark Mitchell: What exactly is the premise that the Minister is rejecting?

Hon POTO WILLIAMS: I reject the premise that gang tensions have increased under this Government’s watch, because we have Operation Tauwhiro, which resulted in a thousand arrests; every week, the organised crime groups are seizing millions of dollars’ worth of cash and assets; they’re making dozens and dozens of arrests. We are supporting the police to do a significant job. Can I remind that member he used to be a police officer and he spends every day in this House disrespecting and diminishing the work of New Zealand police, and I stand by the police every single day against your record.

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20220330_20220330_12

Mitchell’s questions were direct, seeking factual answers. Williams waffled, read prepared “aren’t we wonderful?” lines, and obfuscated to the point where Trevor Mallard, no friend of the Opposition, allowed Mitchell to ask one supplementary question again, because his question hadn’t been remotely addressed, let alone answered.

But the kicker came in the last two supplementaries, especially the final one where Poto Williams denied that gang tensions had increased under Labour. FFS, what rock has the Minister been hiding under?

Kaikohe residents are stuck in a battle between the Killer Beez and the Tribesmen gangs at the moment. There was a drive-by shooting in Sandringham two weeks ago with gang connections. A few weeks ago a motorist was seriously assaulted by Tribesman gang members on the Waikato Expressway. And on Boxing Day last year, TVNZ reported:

Aucklanders are regularly confronted with gun violence, organised crime, and rising gang tensions. One of the country’s top police officers says he’s seeing things escalate like he has never seen before.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/12/26/gangs-and-guns-seeing-stuff-here-that-you-have-never-seen-before/

Is Poto Williams the most inept and out-of-touch Ministers in the current Government?
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March 31, 2022 8:59am
- RRM
  
  Rejecting the premise of the question?
  
  She’s been learning from Jacinda!
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:11am
- krazykiwi
  
  Williams: “every week, the organised crime groups are seizing millions of dollars’ worth of cash and assets”
  
  I call that a lie.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:17am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Is that the new name for the IRD? lol
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:22am
    - krazykiwi
      
      The way she phrased this it could be interpreted that organised criminals are seizing cash and assets every week. That would be closer to the truth.
      
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      March 31, 2022 10:27am
- alloytoo
  
  “Is Poto Williams the most inept and out-of-touch Ministers in the current Government?”
  
  “Current Government” That’s drawing a long bow.
  
  Any other government…..Yes.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:18am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yes, fair point. There’s quite a contest for the worst Minister in the current Government, but it has to be said that Poto is making a very strong claim for the dubious “honour”!
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:32am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Sorry Tony, you have Woods, Sepuloni, Mahuta, Little, Twyford, Davis, Whaitiri, Clark and Wood. And that list is not final. But lordy, line Williams up against Sepuloni, Mahuta, Twyford and Woods. You could put their cardboard cutouts in parliament and they would be less inept.
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:22pm
- pdm
  
  Inv – I do not often watch question time these days because of the Bias of Mallard and the 6 Patsy questions each day. Most times questions from the Greens seem to be no more than patsy’s.
  
  Yesterday while channel surfing I saw about 5 minutes of Seymour questioning Ardern on co governance. Ardern dealt with the questions by way of a lengthy diatribe and did not go near the guts of the question. When Seymour challenged an answer through a Point Of Order Mallard pretty much shot him down.
  
  I won’t be back there any time soon.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:18am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    IMO question time has become a complete waste of time while Mallard is there as speaker.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:07am
  - David Garrett
    
    Mallard is the worse Speaker since Margaret Wilson, and by God that’s saying something.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:07am
  - Colville
    
    Without Mallard running interference Cindy would have crashed and burned years ago.
    Cant handle the jandal that girl.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:29am
- David Garrett
  
  Tony S: It’s even worse than that – in two letters I obtained from police HQ they refused to say that the Mongrel Mob was even partially a criminal organization. This of course reflects the government line that “gang members are part of our communities too”
  
  No they fucking aren’t; they are self described outlaws, and should be treated as such.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:06am
- Spring Bank Westie
  
  5 Years of Deflect
  
  Modus Operandi for this government, won’t take responsibility and won’t tell the truth.
  
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  March 31, 2022 12:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

If this article is true and the Young Nats are involved in on-line harassment of female politicians, then they need to climb out of the gutter.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/128196414/online-bullying-of-female-politicians-linked-to-young-nats-house

If the National Party thinks it is acceptable to associate with folks who indulge in this form of abuse, then they say goodbye to much of the female vote.
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March 31, 2022 9:04am
- BAM
  
  There does seem to be a major issue with misogyny within the National Party and its supporters, unfortunately.
  
  This board practically drips with it, I don’t know if it’s an age thing, a religious thing or just a by-product of spending the majority of time in all-male environments.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:21am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    A reaction to the Lefty sisterhood perhaps?
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:28am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    You know all the new Board members well then BAM? For a start, there are three very capable female Board members in Rachel Bird, Sylvia Wood and Jannita Pilisi. I would not be at all surprised if Sylvia Wood becomes President later in the year, and I know for a fact that she and the other women on the Board will have a very low tolerance for misogyny or any form of abuse.
    
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    March 31, 2022 9:41am
  - cmm
    
    This is the board that has no problem with numerous female MPs and party leaders.
    
    The most National-voting electorate in the country was (and probably still is) Selwyn. They voted for Amy Adams from 2008 to 2020, then Nicola Grigg in 2020.
    
    They also had no problem voting for Grigg’s grandmother, Mary Grigg 9A (a REAL feminist), in 1942.
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:17am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Flatmates sharing an internet conection can’t be individually identified. The owner of the connection may be falsely accused here.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:26am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It’s clearly not acceptable Maggy, and I’m sure the National Party will deal with this quickly.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:36am
  - Batman
    
    But do we actually have faith in the President to actually do that?
    
    I certainly don’t, to be honest.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:30am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      As above, Goodfellow will face a revolt from the women on National’s Board if he tries to brush this under the carpet.
      
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      March 31, 2022 12:37pm
- Phronesis
  
  That’s a big if. There is no actual evidence of misogyny in that report at all. There is the very odd reference to period products (without context) but as literally any Stuff reporter will tell you, men menstruate too. Therefore not misogyny. I assume the examples given in the piece are the very worst comments made and they seem to amount to very little at all. Obviously a troll account but no evidence that it specifically targeted only women or that it targeted them because they were women and not because they were political opponents.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:21am
  - MCōs
    
    “There is no actual evidence of misogyny”
    Enough for Jessee MacKenzie & Bryce Beattie to be tossed out of the National Party. The latter denied any involvement or knowledge in the harassment, but has decided not to stand for a local community board in the October election.
    So.
    A bit of a lesson there for the hundreds of people out there who indulge in this sort of high octane abuse.
    
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    March 31, 2022 6:47pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I think Nicola Willis sums up the situation perfectly:
      
      if you have to make up an identity and hide your name and face before you make a comment on social media, don’t do it,” she said.
      
      “If you’re not prepared to put your name to it then you’re just being a coward and you shouldn’t be doing it at all.”
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/464375/national-launches-troll-hunt-online-abuse-unacceptable
      
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      March 31, 2022 7:30pm
- cmm
  
  Is this harrassment/bullying of female politicians because they are female or harrassment of Leftie politicians that are just coincidentally female?
  
  Is saying you’re standing for mayor to keep person X out really bullying?
  
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  March 31, 2022 11:07am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It is online harassment of females across the board.
    
    It is not restricted to politicians (left, right or centre).
    
    It is carried out by individuals who seem to have a need to belittle aspects of a female’s body.
    
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    March 31, 2022 2:11pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Only the best people.
  
  Despite the claims of a new broom sweeping through the National Party after years of seriously dodgy candidates, nothing will change with Peter Goodfellow as president.
  
  I’m sure he was chuckling along reading Beattie’s posts.
  
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  March 31, 2022 2:59pm
RRM

Well it’s our tenth wedding anniversary. 🙂

Dining options are a bit limited until the Vax passes are withdrawn. We are leaning towards the kebab place though, definitely our favorite food in Masterton!
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March 31, 2022 9:09am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Congrats…
  I lost count after our 20th… seemed to have overlooked our 40th.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:37am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Congratulations Mr and Mrs RRM. She Who Must Be Obeyed and I celebrate twenty years next year (and her 60th birthday) and she has made noises about wanting to see the Northern Lights, so consider yourself lucky if you get away with a feed of kebabs!
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:44am
  - David Garrett
    
    Tony S: My congrats also. If you do go to see the Northern Lights, for God’s sake avoid Aberdeen…the worst hole in Christendom…even worse than the ludicrously named Venice Louisiana. (Both Aberdeen and Venice are oilfield towns)
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:10am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      We spent a night in Aberdeen in 2015 David, and I can see why the incidence of depression is so high there! Mind you, the B&B place we stayed at had a bar where you got your first drink free, so it wasn’t all bad!
      
      We have a friend in Norway, so she’s going to organise everything there for us to see the lights
      
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      March 31, 2022 10:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Been to Alaska twice and missed out. First time was June/July 2015, so we were never going to see them.
    Second was Sept/Oct 2017. No solar flares. Two weeks after we got home it all happened
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:34am
- graham
  
  Congratulations RRM, may you have many more happy years. 🙂
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:47am
- krazykiwi
  
  Congrats to Mr and Mrs RRM. First decade done. May there be many, many more.
  
  Our wedding anniversary was last week and we’ve deferred a celebratory meal out until next week. Same issue — vaxx apartheid.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:34am
  - RRM
    
    Well done!
    
    We are working on the theory that the first ten years is surely the hardest, due to the amount of growing-up you have to do as you hit all of the other life changing milestones that occur in that time (joint bank accounts, house purchase, childbirth, and of course, the inevitable post-childbirth, post-house-purchase poverty..)
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:52am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      True. But rewarding as you are living not just cruising. Best wishes.
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:18pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Well, with 54 years under the belt, as with all things in life, there are high points & low points – I’m just hoping that there are improvements constantly as the time for us to depart this mortal coil draws ever closer – I am 80 y/o in May, but hope to get to where my dad was – 93. But its nor critical – as long as my Supreme Judge views my record as being somewhat in conformity with His Covenant. 🙂
      
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      March 31, 2022 5:19pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Likewise us for a family member’s birthday. Then we’ll toast an end to the evil empires in Wellington and Moscow.
    
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    March 31, 2022 1:16pm
Maggie Pie

“I stand here as a very proud member of the great Socialist Democratic Labour Party”

– Deborah Russell (MP-for-New Lynn) ….and others 🙁

https://twitter.com/Jknighty20/status/1508719123756322821
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March 31, 2022 9:15am
rhygar

Did anyone see the political hit job article on stuff about Luxon unwuttingly meeting a wellington protester? What a biased article about nothing. I did a video on it if anyone is interested in watching.

https://youtu.be/GBWen82KzcE
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March 31, 2022 9:30am
- Prince
  
  Seems to be part of an organised push by the media following the recent unfortunate poll results.
  Along the same line, Young Nat unmasked for trolling pollies in ChCh.
  Ever read the replies to Chris Bishop and Nicola Willis on Twitter? Feral, disgusting, but just part of the everyday joy on that particular community. Would be interesting see some of those keyboard warriors unmasked also.
  
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  March 31, 2022 7:13pm
ClanMcleod

Here is a prime example of the fear mongering, click bait shills in the NZ media in action. What a disgusting, nauseating headline and story.

“The coming Covid 19 Omicron vaccination mandate, masking tension”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-front-page-the-coming-covid-19-omicron-vaccination-mandate-masking-tension/Q67QFJWWNWMGBDM7NGETKDFWPY/

Damien Venuto. What a lowlife piece of pond scum.
This is deliberately ramping up the concerns that some people have. Concerns created in the first place by Ardern’s tactics implemented by her bought and paid for hacks and shills in the mainstream media. He quotes Simon Wilson, who along with Rod Jackson, not only want passes and mandates to carry on, they want it ramped up.

“Much like the epidemiologist Rod Jackson, Wilson believes vaccine passes could still be used to give the triple vaxxed access to events,”
If they are concerned about their medical status then stay home in the basement and triple mask.
These people are advocating medical apartheid in NZ. If they keep getting a platform to spout this unscientific nonsense then the rifts and divisions already existing in NZ will get worse. Astonishing that these blatant lies get air time in the most high profile publication in NZ. It is dangerous rhetoric.
This country is in a dark place and the mainstream media are responsible for an awful lot of it. Paid for by Ardern of course, but these journalists are her foot soldiers.
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March 31, 2022 9:33am
- Rich Prick
  
  A person’s medical condition should be no one’s business other than to that person. If we had chlamydia passes Hamilton would be permanently locked down.
  
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  March 31, 2022 9:39am
  - Observer of Life
    
    Rich: 😂
    
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    March 31, 2022 7:26pm
I remember when

Okarito Gorse Busters are offering a week of free accommodation and food for volunteers to clear gorse.
It will be from the 4-9 April and hopes to build on last year’s effort when 90 turned up.
About 19 km of shoreline was treated for gorse and weeds, 26,000 gorse plants treated and 360 litres of rubbish cleared.
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March 31, 2022 9:42am
Philview

Mayor Hawkins in Dunedin has completely lost sight of the fact that he is elected to represent the interests of the City and ratepayers. His job is not to advocate for Iwi on behalf of the Government.
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March 31, 2022 9:45am
- kowtow
  
  Yer but these people can hide behind some Local Govt Act of 2000 and something that legislates they have to do some sort of engagement or other .
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:30am
Tauhei Notts

A couple of beers at the pub yesterday with three quite wealthy gentlemen, although you wouldn’t know it from their scruffy appearance.
The worry the three had was the very ugly undercurrent in our society because of our dishonest politicians and their main stream news media. They are concerned that something awful might come from that angry disillusioned mob. It appears to them that our present ruling junta have no idea of how much anger there is, out there in our community.
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March 31, 2022 10:01am
- wreck1080
  
  What is wealthy these days?
  
  I reckon anything below 10 million is middle class.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:05am
  - graham
    
    How do you measure wealth?
    
    The average Auckland home-owner is a millionaire, but does that count? If you sell your house, you still have to buy another one.
    
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    March 31, 2022 10:58am
    - MCōs
      
      You’re still a millionaire if you don’t sell.
      
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      March 31, 2022 1:12pm
      - Jack5
        
        And if you don’t have a mortgage.
        
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        March 31, 2022 10:28pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  You can lay the blame for this situation directly at the feet of Ardern and her deliberate use of fear and divisions for political reasons. Amplified by her shills in the mainstream media, this article from today’s Whoreald being a prime example.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-front-page-the-coming-covid-19-omicron-vaccination-mandate-masking-tension/Q67QFJWWNWMGBDM7NGETKDFWPY/
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:07am
Rusty

Think Shane Warne was more worthy of a state memorial service than say Michael Hutchence of INXS who died during a B/D sex act but still had a funeral service beamed live in Aust back in 1997.
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March 31, 2022 10:10am
- MCōs
  
  What was Shane Warne doing at the time and what does it matter?
  Plenty of people survive all sorts of unseemly sexual activities and go on to have state funerals.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:18pm
  - Rusty
    
    MCos — I wasn’t referring to Warnie dying of a sex act. I mentioned Hutchence because of a photo he had with Warnie who was a fan and because both had services live on tv.
    
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    March 31, 2022 4:16pm
I remember when

Just in case you have been wondering how the Greymouth Library has been getting on.
The Greymouth Library has enjoyed increased foot traffic since the Grey District Council scrapped vaccination passports.
The Council decision pre-empted the Government’s announcement.
January loans prior to covid were 8243 (2019) and 8344 (2020).
This dropped to 6915 (2021) and 5708 (2022) although on-line activity increased from 419 (2019) to 625 this year.
Physical visits, or foot traffic, went from over 8000 in 2019 and 2020 to just 4805 this January.

Is this a ‘snapshot’ of what has happened to shops as well.
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March 31, 2022 10:12am
ClanMcleod

So Pfizer sponsored the Oscars. A source claims that security were told there would be an “altercation” involving Chris Rock and they were to ignore it as it was part of the show. Pfizer has been developing an alopecia drug for the last few years and just ramped up marketing for it last week.
Alopecia is the same condition that Will Smith’s wife Jada suffers from which Chris Rock was making fun of.

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/there-is-a-lot-to-learn-from-will?

Of course all of this is a conspiracy theory. Entertaining tittle tattle for a convo over coffee!
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March 31, 2022 10:25am
- Libertarians are right
  
  But will the alopecia drug also help those of us that are simply going bald?
  
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  March 31, 2022 11:35am
Batman

After 18 months or so and many debates, it is finally settled. Ivermectin has no place as a treatment for Covid.

Ivermectin Does Not Reduce Risk of Covid Hospitalization, Large Study Finds https://nyti.ms/3ISnOiW

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

“Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19.”
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March 31, 2022 10:34am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Jebus wept, how to design a study to fail….
  
  “Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (400 μg per kilogram of body weight) once daily for 3 days or placebo”
  
  The efficacy of antivirals is almost entirely down to how early you get them as viral load in your body reaches peak within a few days of infection, and antivirals are most useful in reducing that peak (the point at which your immune system has ramped up to prevent further increase), and after that the damage is being done by the long drawn out immune system response (and cytokine storm in covids case). Prophylaxis (easy, safe and cheap to do with ivermectin) being the best.
  
  Essentially nothing works if you wait up to a week like in this study (see graph on this site: https://c19early.com/ )
  But tonnes of stuff, like ivermectin is very effective if taken before or soon after infection and there are 10’s of studies proving this, more than for almost any medicine in use.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:59am
  - Batman
    
    I mean, the article mentions those studies and that the benefit was eliminated when tested for bias.
    
    I shouldn’t be surprised some remain in a committed relationship with ivermectin depsite the conclusive evidence. Good luck to you in that relationship.
    
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    March 31, 2022 11:32am
- Don Beckett
  
  Funny, you’d better let Dr. Peter McCullough in Texas know – he must have missed the memo.
  Also funny – he treated thousands of patients with Ivermectin before a vaccine was available when the Alpha strain was rampant, and had a 95% hospitalisation reduction, compared to other treatments being used in the US.
  Funny all that. 😆
  
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  March 31, 2022 11:35am
Surely Knott

RNZ article today. “A man Jamie Mansfield built a social media following posting antivax and conspiratorial content as Jae Ratana.”

(They label the man a conspiracist but fail to give a single example.).

They say that he is a bankrupt and that the Convoy 22 donations went into Mansfield’s private bank account. “RNZ has seen evidence that thousands of dollars of donations to the group came flooding into Mansfields bank account by early febraury. At least $14,000 has been deposited in just a few days”

1. Why did the bank not do some security checks when the accounts name is Mansfield and the payment names say Convoy 22.
2. How did RNZ “see evidence” of Mansfields private bank statements. How do they know he got $14000
Did they: A. Search his rubbish bins and find a bank statement? , B Did Mansfield share the information with the Convoy group and someone took a copy and squealed to RNZ? Or RNZ had their own person undercover in the group. If Mansfield did share the bank statements with the convoy group that would be to his credit and shows transparency. C Other?

When contacted by the journalists he said “When u are ready I would love to see the so called information u have got” “Then we will correct what is needed because i can guarantee you you do not have truthful information”.

So he clearly doesn’t know how they got his private bank details. Do rnz have the bank statements and also have the details of those who donated?

For those who did donate to the protestors and the convoy do you feel you got value for money given they achieved a complete removal of mandates from the government.
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March 31, 2022 10:41am
- Batman
  
  You do realise that you’re defending Sovereign Citizen lunatics right?
  
  https://twitter.com/StrayDogNZ/status/1506717896084373507?t=YyQe3cWovzcpNDktT7sjlg&s=19
  
  This guy claims he has shut down Rainbow’s End and a bunch of pharmacies with his ‘Sheriff’ powers granted by another crackpot. They also advocate for and claim to have enacted the death penalty and can carry it out under their ‘powers’.
  
  It might pay to take a look at these people in the cold light of day before leaping to defend them because of their involvement with the convoy, which is your reason for sticking up for them I guess.
  
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  March 31, 2022 10:52am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Does that matter? Have they committed the fraud they are being accused of or not? Just because someone’s a nutter doesn’t mean they can be accused of fraud without proof.
    
    Or do you now think that Trump’s accusation of fraud should be actioned just because the Democrats have a history of election fraud (as do the Republicans to be fair)?
    
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    March 31, 2022 12:00pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    No I had no idea who he is. I went to check and have a look at his facebook page and it was mostly pro freedom memes. But I wasn’t so much defending him in anyway …as asking how does the RNZ get private bank details?
    
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    March 31, 2022 1:57pm
- MCōs
  
  There’s a lot more to that article
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/464328/protest-donations-went-into-bank-account-of-man-with-history-of-unpaid-debt
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:28pm
I remember when

Is it time for the Labour government to advise us about their intentions for our armed forces in light of the present tensions.
Perhaps they could thank NZ First, for the most modern equipment they have purchased while in power, at the same time.
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March 31, 2022 10:56am
CAKE FACE1

Someone may have posted this before, but it is a masterpiece.

Professor Mattias Desmet explains why you were hoaxed by Rona:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RIzxcU8nBYQX/
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March 31, 2022 11:10am
Warren

How many more of these assaults do families have to endure and live in fear that it will happen again before Labour and there Police Minister Poto Williams will take notice and lift there soft stance on Crime.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/30/they-will-do-it-again-mums-fears-as-auckland-attack-leaves-teen-in-coma/
Harsher punishment and Police doing their job instead of jumping to the Prime Minister’s whims everytime she calls would be fine and maybe give these criminals what they deserve
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March 31, 2022 11:11am
- Inandout
  
  Warren, Poto refused to allow Mark Mitchell (Nat) to see any area commanders or the Commissioner of Police. ‘They are too busy’ says Poto. What is it about these left wing governments that turn a blind eye to crime? Dem cities are the same in the US… weird.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:16pm
wreck1080

Isn’t it great, robots are taking over menial jobs, but at the same time new jobs are being created .

eg, “Diversity and Inclusion Manager ” is a thing.
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March 31, 2022 12:03pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Everytime you automate a menial repetitive (minimal judgement required) job you render another incremental pool of society’s thickest unemployable. We have at least 3-5% functionally unemployable at the moment, and that will rapidly rise in coming decade, made worse by increasing minimum wage.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:23pm
cmm

The one-size-fits-all fluoridation of Chch water is setting up to be an expensive exercise and is going to take forever to roll out.

At present it is expected to cost over $60M to set up (so call it $80M) and cost at least $2.5M a year (so call it $4M) and is expected to take 8 years (so call it 10 years) to roll out.

Given a Christchurch population somewhere near 400,000 people that’s a set up cost of $200 per person and a running cost of $10 per person per year.

Floride tablets can be bought retail for less than $8/100 – around $30 a year. If bought in bulk that would cost less than $10 a year – the same as fluoridation of the water.

So why not hand out “free” fluoride tablets? That would save $80M and could be done immediately – not waiting 10 years?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/128218657/fluoridation-for-healthier-teeth-in-christchurch-tops-60m–and-could-be-eight-years-away
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March 31, 2022 12:08pm
- kowtow
  
  Why not just advise kids/ parents thro’ school , plunket etc to use fluoride toothpaste .
  
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  March 31, 2022 12:25pm
- Inandout
  
  cmm, kids ingest fluoride from fizzy drinks and heaps of liquid products. As mentioned just use toothpaste..simple.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:10pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

US fuel prices. Same happening in NZ. The leaders are not responsible. Let’s go Brenda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWh888THYfU
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March 31, 2022 12:12pm
oldfella

Will ‘Team New Zealand’ rebrand as ‘Team Ayoteearower’? If not, why not?
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March 31, 2022 12:16pm
graham

Sigh.

So the NZ Herald continues to follow TVNZ One News in ignoring what I foolishly thought was the prime objective of a news program/paper/website; namely, to inform their patrons clearly and without any confusion. To explain the issues and topics of the day, and inform us on current events, in a manner that is understandable by the broadest possible majority of people in their target audience.

Current headline on NZ Herald website: Maunga authority decides to appeal tree felling refusal

New Zealand being a multi-cultural society (Aisan, English, European, Maori, Pacific, Middle Eastern, Latin American, African, and more), I can’t help but wonder just how many people would know what a “maunga” is. If the NZ Herald wants to use Maori words and language in the article, then they could do so and give the English meaning at the same time. But this headline doesn’t do that, and so the reader is left wondering what this is about, and is it worth their time checking it out.

My answer is simple – if the headline doesn’t make sense, or I can’t understand it, why waste my time reading the article? It obviously can’t be important, or the editor would ensure that EVERYBODY could understand it. Decision made … I’m not going to read the article, given the headline fails to communicate clearly what it’s about.
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March 31, 2022 12:17pm
- oldfella
  
  graham, there’s a radio ad running in the BOP at the moment, which I suspect is encouraging people to bring their kids along to a local park to get a covid jab.
  I only think that, because it’s such a mishmash of English and Te Reo I wouldn’t blame local parents for thinking it was a Maori-only event.
  A grand failure of Communications 101.
  
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  March 31, 2022 12:33pm
  - graham
    
    I know that in “The Maori Language Strategy“, Nanaia Mahuta has this dream that basically, we’ll ALL be talking in Maori by 2040. She states:
    
    I don’t want te reo Māori to be something we hear only on the marae and in other formal settings. I want to hear tamariki who learn te reo Māori at school talking Māori to each other as they play, I want to hear it in the sporting arenas and shopping malls, I want to sit down at any restaurant in Aotearoa and order my meal in te reo Māori.
    
    But even Minister Mahuta then goes on to acknowledge:
    
    We are some way away from this dream …
    
    So, given that even the Government acknowledges that we are far from being a bi-lingual society, you have to wonder why the media do this. When there is news and information that is, supposedly, vital to get out to as many people as possible (because, big scary pandemic, y’know), why does the media insist on ignoring basic reality? Mashing in Maori words that most people don’t understand just makes it confusing, more difficult to understand or comprehend, and ultimately turns us off the messaging.
    
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    March 31, 2022 1:25pm
    - kowtow
      
      This is exactly why every “kia ora” on radio , tv , letter , email etc salutations or whatever is now absolutely posidively political.
      
      As is every remaned govt dept , agency , ngo , newspaper etc
      
      It’s over now to the citizens of New Zealand to stand up to and resist this bullying and separatist agenda , right down to the last macron.
      
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      March 31, 2022 2:16pm
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        doh
        re named
        
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        March 31, 2022 2:27pm
oldfella

Covid-19: Defence Force chief orders troops not to attend public Anzac events
The directive, from Defence Force chief Air Marshal Kevin Short, told enlisted personnel and officers across the uniformed services not to attend public Anzac Day services.
A Defence Force spokeswoman said the idea was to stop the spread of Covid-19 from young fit personnel who may have minor or no symptoms to older veterans.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300554397/covid19-defence-force-chief-orders-troops-not-to-attend-public-anzac-events
I’m sure my late father, a WW2 vet – who spent time in the stockade for punching a Pommy officer – would have delighted in telling Short to F-off.
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March 31, 2022 12:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If the folks have no symptoms then they aren’t going to spread the virus.
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:26pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ should tell Short to Foxtrot Oscar. Short is more than welcome to stay away and self isolate
  
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  March 31, 2022 2:05pm
Inandout

From the Business Govt email:
‘From 4 April 2022, Government vaccination mandates will be removed for some sectors. Businesses are also encouraged to pause any vaccination-related employment processes, and review their own COVID-19 work health and safety assessment against the latest public health advice.
Read the latest guidance on vaccination and the workplace’.

Pause any vaccination-related employment processes. Interesting.
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March 31, 2022 1:03pm
Maggie Pie

“I’ve switched baristas”.
Like it!! 😀

https://twitter.com/spider_hoof/status/1509293977752653829
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March 31, 2022 1:09pm
- graham
  
  … what the hell did I just watch?
  
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  March 31, 2022 1:28pm
  - MCōs
    
    Lady Gaga doesn’t want to be fraternize with Caitlyn Jenner anymore and when the latter asks why she hasn’t been going to their regular Starbucks rather than tell her she’s avoiding her Gaga says she’s switched baristas.
    
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    March 31, 2022 5:45pm
graham

Maybe this is a sorry sign of where Hollywood’s priorities lie.

I swear I’ve seen more articles on Will Smith slapping Chris Rock, than I have ever seen on Alec Baldwin killing Halyna Hutchins. And Google appears to back that up – “will smith slap chris rock” gives 640,000,000 results, whereas “alec baldwin shoots” gives 1,090,000 results.

What the hell is wrong with society?
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March 31, 2022 1:36pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Society is not that bad. The jerk dropkicks in Stupidwood are a waste of space
  
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  March 31, 2022 2:20pm
- MCōs
  
  I would suggest the media doesn’t like Hollywood anymore than you do, but they keep the story going because it sells papers.
  Why do you think all these loathsome conservative American politicians get so much publicity. The public pays good money to be outraged.
  
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  March 31, 2022 7:01pm
All_on_Red

So the other day we had some fool with TDS going on about Trump saying a cure for Covid is ‘bleaching’ your veins.
Of course Trump never said such thing. CNN made it up. Trump said ‘disinfectant’.
Here’s what he actually said, “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it`s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn`t been checked, but you`re going to check it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you`re going to test that too. Sounds interesting…And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you`re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds interesting to me.”
Ok, clumsy rambling speech but it seems he was right about this new form of treatment.
‘This single center, U.S.-based study evaluated the safety and proof of principle of the Healight device in newly intubated critically ill patients on mechanical ventilation diagnosed with COVID-19….The Healight technology platform employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel respiratory tract device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology’s significant impact on reducing a wide range of viral and bacterial loads, including the coronavirus HCoV-229E, ‘
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2021/12/09/trump-was-right-uv-light-disinfectant-injected-into-the-body-shows-promise-in-covid-patients-n1540133

And they have just had their Patent approved
“United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has issued a U.S. patent for the Healight™ ultraviolet-A light-based respiratory catheter. U.S. Patent Number 11,179,575, titled “Internal Ultraviolet Therapy,” is the first issued patent protecting the Healight investigational device and covers methods of treating a patient for an infectious condition inside the patient’s body through the insertion of a UV-light-emitting delivery tube inside a respiratory cavity of the patient at specific UV-A light wavelengths. ”
https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/aytu-biopharma-announces-issuance-of-first-u-s-patent-supporting-healight-ultraviolet-a-respiratory-catheter/?keywords=Healight

Poor TDS sufferers. Trump is right about something else! And they are wrong- again.
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March 31, 2022 1:53pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The media fucked with what he said, as they usually do. Trump was asking questions, not advising. How do you think a Professor in the medical arena would go advising Trump about multi-million real estate?
  Then there was the guy who died and wife got sick from taking Hydroxychloroquine Phosphate (fish tank cleaner) instead of Hydroxychloroquine sulphate (malaria and other stuff)
  The media jumped on it like flies on shit and blamed Trump for this.
  Just aside, quacks like homeopathy people do use light therapy, I have no idea if it does anything except bring in dollars.
  The brainwashed left heads will be exploding when told Trump was right again. Winning. #Trump 2024
  
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  March 31, 2022 2:40pm
Surely Knott

What’s happened to the Teachers mandate case. I thought the case finished weeks ago and we should have heard the judgement?
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March 31, 2022 1:59pm
Maggie Pie

‘Drive’ reports that since it opened at 3am today, Police have issued at least 47 Infringement-Notices on the new stretch of highway into Wellington.

Motorists have renamed it….. ‘The Gully Trap’
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March 31, 2022 2:11pm
- MCōs
  
  I remember when the last rock star piece of highway opened viz the Waterview Tunnel, which has a speed limit of 80kph.
  Someone got an airing on the radio to complain she’d picked up four speeding tickets in the first week & why was the system so heartless?
  No soul those cameras.
  
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  March 31, 2022 7:09pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Do you know something Cossie…..I’ve never ever been thru it.
    
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    March 31, 2022 8:05pm
103PapPap

I see in this week’s Listener, political writer Jane Clifton, wife of Trevor Mallard, has written something criticising Labour (a first!), and ending with this beauty:
“It’s time Labour’s opening declaration, “Let’s Do This” gave way to “Let’s Get Real”.
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March 31, 2022 2:23pm
- krazykiwi
  
  I can hear the duck yelling “Order! Order!” from the lounge sofa.
  
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  March 31, 2022 3:36pm
  - Inandout
    
    krazy, isn’t the duck leaving our shores for an overseas post?
    
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    March 31, 2022 4:27pm
- cmm
  
  Someone’s sleeping on the ironing board tonight.
  
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  March 31, 2022 3:54pm
- kowtow
  
  When she gets home he’ll turn on the sprinklers as she walks up the garden path and when she gets in blast her with some noise .
  
  Hopefully he’s not on speed dial to the local cops.
  
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  March 31, 2022 5:32pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/300552643/wayne-smith-to-join-black-ferns-coaching-team-as-black-ferns-culture-review-looms
God, bring him back as All Blacks coach/selector.
It was always due to him, not Hansen, that the ABs excelled.
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March 31, 2022 4:02pm
- Mike
  
  I can understand, but perhaps not forgive, his lapse about whether he wanted to be reappointed as AB coach. That led to Mitch and his ‘journey’ to the 2003 world cup fiasco.
  
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  March 31, 2022 5:55pm
Maggie Pie

Thort this worth sharing. My partner retweets…..

‘They tried to rob a gun store. They found out’

https://twitter.com/breakonthru234/status/1509187648933359621
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March 31, 2022 4:15pm
CAKE FACE1

No one wants to discuss the Covid cult any more. This is understandable. If you have been the victim of a cruel hoax, I imagine that it is humiliating. The last thing you wish is to see your two-year dalliance with mental illness picked over in detail.

CAKE doesn’t want to humiliate anyone. Nonetheless, it is important to discuss the Covid cult, because it could happen again. Next time, we need people to act rationally. One case of the flu shouldn’t cause three months of lockdown for Auckland. Anyone who supported this and other absurd rules, needs to reflect upon their conduct over the past two years.

There are three main causes of mass formation:

1. Many socially isolated people – this is a sad part of modern life.

2. Little self-meaning in lives – 70% of people in one survey described their job as senseless. It is interesting to note that Covid cult fanatics often have completely nonsense jobs.

3. Widespread free floating anxiety disorder – anti-depressant taking is at an all time high. Note that “free floating” in this context means that the anxiety is generalised. Huge numbers of people are suffering in this manner.

Psychologists say that free-floating anxiety is an extremely painful condition, because there is no obvious cause or connection. This makes it extremely painful to endure. Because it is generalised in nature, there is no obvious source to be solved.

The Covid cult gives people with this free-floating anxiety an object to fixate upon, which provides an explanation and narrative of why they are unwell.

The Covid cult acts as a connection or bond to mitigate their anxiety disorder. Now they have a fear to fixate upon. They can then join the group, with a common enemy, to battle a new object – in this case Covid. Before, they lacked a social connection, but now they have one. This acts like an intoxication or hypnosis of the mind. It is almost impossible to rationally persuade people under the spell of this Covid cult that they are wrong, because if they accepted that they were wrong, they would go back into their free-floating anxiety state, which would be extremely painful.

This mass formation state narrows the field of vision to one thing only – just the Covid cult is important. All attention is on very few metrics inside the cult; any costs are completely ignored by the sufferer. This tunnel vision is not because the sufferer lacks empathy – they simply cannot see outside the mass formation. Following the Covid cult then becomes everything – they will suffer any material hardship for the good of the group.

Another impact of mass formation is the people become radically intolerant to other views. These views are dangerous, because they could result into a return to free-forming anxiety, which must be avoided at all costs. Leaders who protect the Covid cult then become adored, because again they are protecting these people from their anxiety disorder.

Of course, Cindy has explained how she couldn’t sleep due to suffering from imposter syndrome. Also, she explained that she suffered from what sounded exactly like a free-floating anxiety disorder.

This explains why New Zealand had the most extreme Covid cult rules in the world. In essence, Cindy was a super spreader, who spread her anxiety disorder to most of the people in the country.

The big question, of course, is whether we have learned anything from the past two years?

Is there anyone, who was previously a Covid cult member, who has now realised that it was all nonsense? Anyone at all?

Or do all the believers of the Covid cult still maintain it was correct all along?

CAKE would really like to know the answer to that question, from former cultists.

Alas, my suspicion is that nothing has been learnt. We will do it all over again; maybe soon.

This is a very depressing thought.
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March 31, 2022 4:35pm
- CAKE FACE1
  
  Mass formation theory courtesy of these links:
  
  https://wikitia.com/wiki/Mattias_Desmet
  
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/RIzxcU8nBYQX/
  
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  March 31, 2022 5:41pm
Fisiani2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tEdH0bjjR8

Highland Cathedral is majestic and soothing and inspiring
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March 31, 2022 5:22pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

It’s stories like this on the Telly that really bring it home as to how TUFF it must be living on a Bene.

Newshub talks with ‘Porirua Budget Advisor’, Ruth Nonu.
Ruth says the last benefit increase she received was $20 per week……yet incredibly, $18 of that went to her landlord, you guessed it, Kaianga Ora!!
Leaving Ruth with just $2 to feed her growing son “who is eating her out of house & home”.

https://twitter.com/NewshubPolitics/status/1509408286784720898

There are probably hundreds-of-thousands of stories like this from all around the country. Yet we hear ‘The-Member-for-Tijuana’ during QT yesterday, bleating that we should allow even more disabled immigrants into New Zealand.

Maybe he needs to go and see Ruth for a little ‘budget advice’

SHEESH!!!
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