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Warren

Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade under spotlight after Sexual Assault case.
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade is undergoing a independent review into how it dealt with a case where a Senior MFAT employee assaulted a junior staffer.
The review is being carried out by Steph
Dyersburg was instigated after a survivor complained about how she was treated throughout the process.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/wellington-top-stories/128130904/ministry-of-foreign-affairs-and-trade-under-the-spotlight-after-alleged-sexual-assault-case
Can someone please explain please why this wasn’t handled by the Police, because we have been through this all before under Labour if you remember the sexual assault out of the Prime Minister’s Office of Jacinda Ardern and the Senior Staffer that was accused of that, so why hasn’t the Government and Labour learnt anything from that.
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March 23, 2022 8:00am
- Batman
  
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  How do you know it hasn’t?
  
  And, if you knew a victim who has dealt with this and the prospect of police investigation and a court case, you might not ask that question to begin with.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:04am
  - I remember when
    
    And sadly, if there isn’t a police investigation, nobody has any idea how prevalent the behaviour is.
    There is no use complaining about the lack of law and order if you aren’t prepared to participate.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:12am
  - Warren
    
    You assume Batman they I don’t know anyone that has been in the same situation and it is always hard for the victims to report sexual assault, but the only way to get justice is to leave it to a Police investigation. While I can not guarantee that it never went as far as the Police Labour have a habit of sweeping serious sexual assaults under the carpet and leaving the victims to be hung out to dry.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:23am
    - Batman
      
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      I assume based on you asking the question. If you did know someone then you would know very well why she may not want it to go to the Police. And let’s be realistic, she may well just not want to bother given it was a groping assault and not a more serious offence. He has lost his career at the ‘up or out’ MFAT which is a punishment in that weird foreign affairs circle.
      
      I don’t think you can link Labour to this, as much as it seems a convenient political hit. This kind of thing will be separated from the Beehive and quite some distance away from the Labour party itself. Aside from anything else, the Minister will want minimum contact with it other than to ensure the Ministry is conducting an appropriate investigation so she can’t be dragged into it.
      
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      March 23, 2022 9:53am
      - Warren
        
        You work in the Public service so yes I can understand what you have said and admit you are probably right, but in saying this Labour have a habit of covering up serious sexual assault.
        
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        March 23, 2022 10:04am
      - Batman
        
        Yeah the political party does when it involves an MP or a party/political staffer. I definitely agree with you on that!
        
        This is not that, is all I’m saying. Context is everything.
        
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        March 23, 2022 10:14am
- Nickc2
  
  Whose carpet will this be swept under?
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:09am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    There’s no room under the carpet in the Prime Minister’s office, so it’ll have to be Mahuta’s.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:18am
    - Nickc2
      
      Not if it’s non Maori!
      
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      March 23, 2022 9:28am
    - Liberty
      
      Luxuries warm dry Carpet is the result of Colonisation.
      If Mahuta was genuine in her deluded views on Colonisation.
      The carpet should have been ripped out and a dirt floor fitted.
      
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      March 23, 2022 3:01pm
- krazykiwi
  
  C’mon Warren. For Ardern’s motley mob of miscreants ‘to learn’ is akin to admitting some shortcoming. Not. Going. To. Happen. The preferred approach is to hide, deny, or accuse others of said shortcomings.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:10am
krazykiwi

Italy, that model bio-fascist state has announced that it is ditching vaxx passports. When these were introduced in September they had roughly 4,000 infections a day. When they tightened restrictions in December, they had under 15,000. Italy now has 70,000 a day.

Make no mistake, when Ardern, with a flush of faux-magnanimity announces the end of vaxx mandates and passports she will claim success of vaccinations and and following the science as her reasoning.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The vaxx has clearly failed as evidenced in every country with high vaxx rates.

No, Ardern is a tyrant that has lost the self-declared right to rule through fear, and she knows it.
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March 23, 2022 8:00am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  bio-fascist state
  
  LOL. Keep those hyperbolic zingers coming.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:05am
  - krazykiwi
    
    In Italy one needs to have accepted an experimental genetic therapy in order to use public transport. That qualifies them for the bio-fascist epithet in my view.
    
    Mind you, New Zealand can hardly brag. I was barred from an outdoor animal park, and from a berry picking orchard on account of declining to be jabbed.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:07am
    - glowworm
      
      I suspect the covid insanity here in Wellington is about as bad as if gets… Just dropped friend at airport, highly specialised and wealthy professional. Had enough with this government and after 26 years, fleeing back to Europe. Not sure when they will return. Airport was dead.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:53am
      - Batman
        
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        Weirdly I also picked up a friend at the airport!
        
        Also a highly specialised and wealthy professional. They were sick of the mass deaths thanks to lax public health policies in the UK do has fled back to NZ for a safer lifestyle with more personal freedoms.
        
        See, everyone can have a wealthy professional friend ?
        
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        March 23, 2022 10:59am
      - glowworm
        
        Wow! I think I saw you and your friend Batman! You must have been those two other people, double masked, and with goggles, looking happy to be free and safe at last ?
        
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        March 23, 2022 12:38pm
      - bythesea
        
        batman’s comment does not include the fact that until very recently expat NZs could *not* return to NZ with passing MIQ.
        
        And what lax public health policies?
        UK had excellent vaccine rollout to vulnerable groups. No European countries escaped the Delta wave
        
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        March 23, 2022 1:40pm
      - Batman
        
        Bythesea, I’m taking the piss.
        
        The UK did have an excellent vaccine rollout. But it did move to a policy of accepting a lot of deaths (late-2021) and lockdowns with too many complexities and holes in them, which lead to more and more cases and deaths.
        
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        March 23, 2022 2:40pm
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      We just had an announcement.
      
      Vaccine passes gone 4 April.
      
      I expect most will just quietly drop over the next week.
      
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      March 23, 2022 2:50pm
    - Scooter
      
      Bio-fascist sums it up pretty well. It’s behind most European countries to remove the green pass.
      In Italy unvacc’d are barred from going into shops or businesses, only allowed in supermarkets or pharmacy’s, over 50’s must be jabbed. As an aside Italy’s Govt also last week cut excise on petrol by 25c per litre. Coincidence?
      
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      March 23, 2022 8:09pm
- Pavel
  
  South Africa, 3% Vax rate and they were over it in 8 weeks. The rates weren’t much higher in India and they have eliminated it in most of the country. We are not allowed to talk about it in the western world but if you read Indias msm you will soon learn how it was done for under $3 per person. They openly celebrate this achievement.
  Here’s a debate I’d love to start; I’m unvaxxed and got covid with my two unvaxxed kids aged 4 and 5. We all had a runny nose and felt a little tired otherwise nothing, we could of carried on with life as normal and you wouldn’t of known we were infected. I also smoke 30 tailor made cigarettes a day and didn’t slow down while I had covid. I am also reading alot of stories similar to mine. I also know 14 unvaxxed people 8 of whom have had covid and their experience was the same as mine. I also know 15 people who were vaxxed and got covid and their symptoms were way worse than mine and my unvaxxed friends symptoms with 3 needing to go to hospital. From my point of view the vaxxed are getting way sicker than the unvaxxed. Maybe its just coincidental and we got lucky but if we were in a trial group the results speak for themselves. The press can write what they like but I am convinced I made the right choice.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:25am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    There will be no studies done that could possibly show Ardern to be wrong about anything. The good news is many more people are seeing through her complete transparency.
    The stats are rattling in around the world, vaccination status not only doesn’t make a shred of difference, it’s looking like making things worse. And we haven’t even started to see the long term implications yet. I really hope they don’t happen as many experts have predicted. I wouldn’t wish bad things on anyone. But we have a very interesting year ahead of us.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:24am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yes Pavel, and guess what that majic potion was that ended Covid in India – mainly Uttar Pradesh province ?
      YES – it was Ivermectin – dished out freely by the government.
      I haven’t had to use my Ivermectin yet – please someone, give me the Rona so I can gain the immuntiy. (But maybe I’ve had it 😉 )
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:17am
      - Pavel
        
        Exactly Don. When it was happening the western press were saying it’s horse de wormer and ridiculing the idea. At the same time the Indian press were raving on and on about how great it is with the governor of Uttar Pradesh province in the news, beaming away, declaring it was officially over after handing out bags of it, with vitamins, for less than $3 each and openly laughing about us silly white people paying Pfizer untold amounts. They made no secret of it and all one had to do was read any Indian press.
        The press in NZ go on about the rabbit hole of disinformation, one which I believe they have all pushed us down. Meanwhile the rest of the world shakes their head while muttering “stupid fucking white people” because ultimately we’re the only ones to have used mRNA vaccines. China doesn’t use them and neither do over 70 other countries, their sitting back and waiting for the time to ask us “how did that work out for you?”.
        
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        March 23, 2022 10:57am
    - bennerg
      
      Clan, the long term effects of vaccination are showing up in the “All Cause Mortality” statistics around the world, including NZ.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:37am
  - tui47
    
    When the Omicron variant arrived in SA it was described as mild. The majority of people experiencing these mild cases were unvaxxed.
    
    Fast forward to when my family and I got covid. I am told our cases were mild because I was triple vaxed.
    
    I would be keen to see a study of the experience that unvaccinated New Zealanders have had with the variant Omicron. Is it possible that the vaccinations did not do as much for me as I was told because the vax was not that effective and that Omicron is mild anyway?
    
    I am seeing stories of young men who had severe heart health reactions from the vaccination (reactions that was confirmed by their GPs/doctors) but that the MOH refused to provide an exemption forcing them to have it in order to continue accessing services.
    
    While I am not an antivaxxer I am wondering whether the government placed their own desire to have a world leading fully vaccinated country over any concerns about health of NZers affected by the vaccine.
    
    Did the Government view studies on the likelihood of young men under 39 years dying of covid? Is it possible that these young men didn’t need the vaccination in the first place but have been caught up in our naive Government’s desire for full vaccination?
    
    I agree that the over 65’s and those who are vulnerable would have benefited from vaccination given the high death rates in those groups.
    
    I am starting the think that post covid and post Labour Government we will get ‘tell all’s coming out from public service workers and OIAs who will report that the Government ignored warnings, ignored human rights and went to extreme lengths with keeping health facts under cover to push the need for 100% vaccination for the entire NZ population.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:30am
  - Show me the evidence
    
    And yet doctors will tell you that maybe Omi is mild because of the vaccines, but South Africa and India with their low vax rates had milder cases, less deaths etc with Omi so it clearly had nothing to do with the vaccines. Then people say, it’s because of their young age demographics – but I have been to poor parts of South Africa, and it is like the third world so your average 30 year old is health-wise, like your average 50 year old in NZ. So even though many are younger in SA, due to poverty many bodies are much older, not to mention the high HIV prevalence lowering peoples immunity. So that argument is nonsense too. There are two things happening with these vaccines – they have lowered peoples innate immunity which means in the “flu” phase 1 the vaxxed often get it worse. However, what the vaccines do is create a level of “tolerance” of the spike protein (they only cause antibodies to be produced for the spike protein, not the whole virus itself). What this “tolerance” for the spike protein does is means if you do progress to phase 2 (inflammation) or 3 (hyperinflammation) you are less likely to get over it and not die or get as sick. Or it may be that they protect you from getting to Phase 2 (which often means a hospitalisation). The NZ data shows about 5 in 100k unvaxxed people are going to hospital so that’s probably the risk of getting to Phase 2 or 3. Interstingly though double vaxxed are going to hospital at a rate of 3.8 per 100k, boosted at 1.7 per 100k, so it’s clear that the protection even for hospitalisation wears off, or doesn’t even protect old people. If you look at the datasheet in Medsafe, they only tested the booster on ages 18 to 55 years so who knows if they even do anything over that age – Pfizer has no proof. Also, for the booster they never compared numbers of cases in placebo to trial group to calculate efficacy, they looked at antibody levels (only 200 people in each group!!). And remember the antibodies would only ever be to the original Wuhan strain not the Omi as that’s all they were designed for. So it’s a complete nonsense that we even approved the 3rd dose – it’s not science, it’s cross your fingers and say a Hail Mary territory. I knew that these vaccines wouldn’t stop transmission last July when I looked at the overseas data for highly vaxxed nations and especially the Uk data which always showed the vaxxed were more likely to get covid than unvaxxed, Also, a close read of the datasheets in Medsafe shows they based their 95% efficacy on 8 cases out of 22,000 trial group and 162 cases out of 22000k placebo at 3 months (and there were 1 versus 2 deaths from covid in each group!). The 12-15 year data is even more ridiculous – 0 cases versus 16 cases out of 1000 in each group gave them 100% efficacy, yeah right……..We are still waiting here in South Auckland to get covid. There are 3 of us working and 3 of us studying. My kids have had covid ripping through their schools and still nothing. Hoping we will just get a cold like you did.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:20am
    - Show me the evidence
      
      Correction: Actually 5 in 100k unvaxxed hospitalisations is probably the absolute risk of catching and then getting to Phase 2 or 3 – we don’t know what the risk is once you catch it as we don’t know how often people are reporting their positive result. So the risk of getting to hospital would be higher than 5 per 100k once you catch covid.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:27am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Yip. We are in West akd. 1 vxd. Still waiting to get covid. Kids at school every day but nothing
      
      Colleague who is boosted has caught it and having a bad time of it.
      
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      March 23, 2022 12:00pm
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    That was my experience to.
    
    This is a pandemic of the vaccinated.
    
    The unvaccinated need to be protected from the vaccinated.
    
    We did it to ourselves.
    
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    March 23, 2022 11:05am
- Frank the tank
  
  That is of course the delicious irony that the world is easing restrictions when in reality the reasons they imposed them in the first place haven’t changed or half got materially worse.
  
  Of course the virus has got materially less threatening but the reasons for the restrictions were for the spread of the virus therefore they have been an utter failure.
  
  Italy will be like everywhere else – polling will suggest this is now a political liability. Watching the mental gymnastics from the elite (political, corporate and bureaucratic) on this walk back is amusing as they realize (on this round at least) Peterson’s maximum threshold has been hit.
  
  We have to silently (for fear of elite retribution) cheer for those in NZ who stood up for democratic rights as well as right across the world.
  
  If it wasn’t for trailblazers in the GOP like Rand Paul and Ron Desantis who refused to be cowered and bullied into accepting the ridiculous mandates and rules we would still be in a world of paranoia. Oh to have conviction-based political leaders of that makeup in New Zimbabwe.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:30am
  - I remember when
    
    How much less threatening is Omicron and how much more resistant have we become.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:19am
- Matt Long
  
  Just tested positive to the WuFlu today, guess the masking etc at school didn’t keep the kids from bringing it home after all. Bit of a fever, head old, best part is the pain from my shingles has disappeared with it.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:46am
  - Rich Prick
    
    So, Cindy’s vaccination passport didn’t save you? Shocking.
    
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    March 23, 2022 8:51am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Didn’t save my triple jabbed husband either. Brought it home from Rotary a month ago. Now Rotary have gone fullblown paranoid and now meeting on zoom. But they’re all triple jabbed. How inconvenient. I mean if you gave your dog 3 rabies shots within 6 months and he still got rabies, you’d be asking some serious questions, right?
      
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      March 23, 2022 9:43am
      - Don Beckett
        
        You’re not calling you husband a dog with rabies, are you? 😉
        
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        March 23, 2022 10:22am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Lol, will Cindy’s vax pass back down save her???
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:01am
      - KKKKatee
        
        No. Too late for that.
        
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        March 23, 2022 10:21am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Hope you’re 100% quickly, Matt
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:05am
    - Matt Long
      
      Thanks, KK
      
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      March 23, 2022 9:54am
  - RichardF
    
    I had to laugh at an email from our school recently. It was an update on covid cases. In the space of about 4 days it went from “we have a small number of tamariki away” to “we have numerous cases across the school”. The principal said “we will continue with the preventative and effective measures that are serving us so well such as mask wearing and staggered drop off and pick up times”. I thought, if it’s so bloody effective, why is half the school away?!
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:46am
    - cmm
      
      Doubling down – the leftie way.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:19am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        The Python’s take on it:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee6-sI9rdtA
        
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        March 23, 2022 1:16pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I never had a fever, I had a scratchy throat, that was it, keeled going to work, keeper going to the pub, never knew I had it till we tested at work, a very faint line, medical person said I would have had it and I will now not be infectious, no one from work caught it, or none of my mates at the pub caught it, strange for some Thai infectious.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:00am
  - Sacha
    
    The research is only just getting under way – there will be a lot of statistics being assembled and examined as all the research is collected – research which should have been done before the vaccines were ever approved for use.
    The politicians will be long gone by the time the true after-effects of the vaccines become evident.
    I wonder how many will remember the Pandemic of 2020-22 as they see a rise in numbers of rare health conditions. affecting their children and grandchildren.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:07am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    Mild head ache, bit of a temperature, sore throat, little bit of a nose block but not much.
    
    Panadol, lots of fluid, gargle salt water, bed rest, peak in 2 to 3 days,
    
    Bit of a lingering cough, in my case night cramps but that may have been my keto diet.
    
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    March 23, 2022 11:11am
  - curry4me
    
    Get well soon.
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:26pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Yep – same to report here as General Xi’s Lung Rot virus comes visiting
    
    I’ve had worse flu. Hell, I’ve had worse colds. Exactly as I expected given my age and excellent health.
    
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    March 23, 2022 2:27pm
- kowtow
  
  Italy pioneered the lockdown , among “developed” nations . And when the others saw “they got away with it,” they copied . And to what avail.
  
  Pity the world did the panicky Latin and not the colder , rational northern European cultural response as per Sweden .
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:51am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Actually, they followed the China method.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:24am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      China are still following the China method.
      
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      March 23, 2022 11:12am
    - kowtow
      
      Yer that’s why I said “developed”
      
      But yes essentially we all went CCP totalitarian.
      
      How’s that worked out for em , still raging there.
      
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      March 23, 2022 11:27am
  - Scooter
    
    Italians are well known to be hypochondriacs. They seriously believe they can get sick if the air-con is on in summer.
    
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15987082.amp
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:37pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Ardern is a proven liar and not a very good one, her manic hand waving is a dead giveaway.
  
  You are correct though, today is just the next act in her stage managed circus. Ardern will signal some “freedom” and some lifting of the utterly useless covid measures she imposed. She will tell us how their actions saved thousands of lies. Another complete lie. She is responsible for the destruction of so many lives already and for years to come. The impacts, both physical and mental will not be measured and will not be attributed to her and her experts. They should be and they should all be held to account. Instead so many naive NZers will be thankful to this ridiculous woman like a dog accepting a treat after being tied up and beaten for months.
  That she has signaled she is keeping these measures “in the toolbox” for the foreseeable future is an abomination. No government should have those powers so easily accessible.
  
  Not my PM. Never was and I look forward to the day I never have to see her face in the media again. I have honestly never despised a politician so much in my life and I’ve known quite a few bad ones. I need to make sure I am nowhere near a television or radio at 11am or it is liable to finish up being thrown through a window.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:51am
  - edhunter
    
    But wait coming to a town near you “DELTACRON”
    not quite as bad as the original Delta but just as infectious as Omni. Will she move forward with the reopening plans or will this be the excuse to throw everyone back into lockdown?
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:15am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Jaspinda hates Auckland and wants a lockdown ASAP.
      She owns a house here – big deal. Land banking, cashing in on the ever increasing property prices.
      Council valuation the other day. My simple home has a land value of $1.4M, and improvements (house and double garage) valued $80K. Should just demolish it and put up 5 townhouses – there is room.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:16am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I thought I heard them say most our cases are Deltacrom
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:23am
  - Hometruth
    
    Totally agree I was no fan of Helen Clark but didnt despise her the way I do of this prime minister.
    
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    March 23, 2022 11:11am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ouch
      
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      March 23, 2022 3:33pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    She saved 5,000 lives doncha know?
    
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    March 23, 2022 2:52pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    Clan: “ I have honestly never despised a politician so much in my life”. I hear ya. I’ve never felt so much distaste and anger towards anyone, ever. She is evil personified.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:44pm
- 2ic
  
  No, no – that can’t be right. According to our own ‘leading epidemiologist’:
  
  Covid-19: Winding back restrictions too soon could cause second Omicron wave – epidemiologist
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/128132986/covid19-winding-back-restrictions-too-soon-could-cause-second-omicron-wave–epidemiologist
  
  Because it all worked so well at suppressing the first wave, didn’t it? (/sarc)
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:50am
Tomtoddy

Psssst!! Want to make some easy money? Join the discussion on Maihi Ka Ora. Get yourself a job at Te Maihi Whare Wānanga. You will need plenty of time to attend meetings, wear some greenstone around your neck, be able to mumble a karakia, look deadly serious most of the time and supply your bank details so generous amounts of money can be transferred from the long suffering taxpayers to your account.

Don’t worry about achieving anything. Get used to lots of talking, reports being done by consultants, mysterious payments going to various entities for seemingly doing very little. It would help if you can waffle for hours about the treaty and how it is undergoing a renaissance.

Learn various hazy expressions about partnerships, colonialism’s dreadful impact, stolen land and new beginnings. Practise going home each night looking exhausted after a tough day listening. Once you get into the swing of things there will be other such groups you can join. Expand your horizons. Make some real dosh.
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March 23, 2022 8:03am
- Cassandra
  
  Sadly what should be a joke turns out to be real. Almost every day there’s a new dollop awarded by the Labour Party to some setup with a Maori name and no hint of what it actually does. In any other country the investigators would be taking an interest. Easiest money to spend is someone else’s. And then Labour uses its majority to stop Parliament from asking questions. Fortunately the next election will put a stop to this. Unfortunately it is 15 months away.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:17am
  - RiP NZ
    
    What constitutes or is a catalyst for an election earlier than that?
    Too young to remember the Muldoon one, but with billions tipped down the drain such as the most recent mental health debacle one would think enough is enough.
    Wish I had a job where no matter the performance or outcomes – there is a guaranteed tenure.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:13am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Ardern leaving in disgrace roils possibly generate a new election, Muldoons early we lection was called the Snapps election, when announcing it he was pissed
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:26am
      - chukar
        
        Henceforth was known as the Schnapps election!
        
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        March 23, 2022 12:41pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Like the knee jerk 400 million tax relief on fuel last week, where did that money come from, I realise it’s off tax, but it has to be accounted for somewhere else
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:25am
    - Batman
      
      Unused but already budgeted funds for MIQ.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:50am
  - oldfella
    
    Cassandra, most Govt depts have Maori names with no hint of what they actually do. Makes it tough for the 96% of us who don’t speak Te Reo. And have no desire to learn.
    
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    March 23, 2022 11:52am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Waddya mean ‘most’? Name one that doesn’t.
      
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      March 23, 2022 5:46pm
- Frank the tank
  
  That’s it. Accept our destiny as a third world shit hole under the stewardess of Jacinda Mugabe.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:37am
- Paulus
  
  If you talk about these organisations I would love to know what they actually are so I can join up!
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:07am
mikenmildagain

Happy World Meteorological Day!
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March 23, 2022 8:06am
- hookerphil
  
  Are you sure that will be correct?
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:51am
expat

Adernity

noun

ader·ni·ty | \ u-ˈdər-nə-tē \

1: the quality or state of being seemingly unable to make a decision (or captains call)

2: infinite time lasting throughout multiple focus groups and cabinet meetings

3: the state of presiding over the slow death of hospitality and tourism

4: a seemingly endless or immeasurable series of bureaucratic delays
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March 23, 2022 8:11am
- alloytoo
  
  5. Referring to a state of “Arderness” which will be defined at some undefined time in the future, maybe, if appropriate or politically useful.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:23am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  See as lao Weasel!
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:28am
Yvette

Yesterday – Vaccines administered to date: 4,024,159 first doses; 3,971,385 second doses; 34,217 third primary doses; 2,545,448 booster doses: 256,225 paediatric first doses and 29,671 paediatric second doses
https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-items/18514-community-cases-939-hospitalisations-24-icu-10-deaths-reported-today

A couple of days ago, Ashley Bloomfield stated a “new language” defined fully vaccinated now to be three injections of the vaccine – normally: two doses plus a ‘booster’
So 34,217 third primary doses; 2,545,448 booster doses (above) total 2,579,665 people fully vaccinated, or 51.59 percent of the “Team of 5 Million”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/coronavirus-three-doses-now-considered-up-to-date-with-vaccinations-not-two-dr-ashley-bloomfield.html

What has happened to Jacinda Ardern’s ~~millstone~~ milestone of 90 percent?
To unlock Auckland required vaccination of 90 percent of those eligible
Now the whole country will open on about 52 percent

It is in fact probable that this type of irrationality contributes to Jacinda’s fall in the polls
Good – don’t tell her
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March 23, 2022 8:12am
- ClanMcleod
  
  It has been a smoke and mirrors snow job from the very beginning. It was always going to be only a matter of time before the lies and contradictions became too numerous to keep covering up. As the winter comes around and usual illnesses increase and hospitals come under pressure as usual, be amazed at the verbal gymnastics employed by these people as they attempt to word soup and bamboozle a shell shocked population.
  The levels of insanity are going to increase.
  
  One day this will surely all end and a semblance of normality will be returned to. I really hope so for the sake of our species. Otherwise what we are heading into won’t be worth living in.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:36am
- Loddenthinks
  
  It’s OK, you can tell her. She won’t understand.
  
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  March 23, 2022 3:11pm
artemisia

With their increasing profile ACT MPs are about to come under intense scrutiny of every word, every speech, every policy, every action. I hope they have a combat plan. Personally prefer stand up, fight back. But ridicule works too.

I’m sure Green MPs are ready with a similar plan on the unlikely offchance it is ever needed.
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March 23, 2022 8:16am
Maggie Pie

Ma’s not the only one then.
Doesn’t sound like Chis agrees with the Green list Member-for-Tijuana’s desire to fill the country with disabled immigrants either.

https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1505771536946384898
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March 23, 2022 8:19am
- Frank the tank
  
  Why the hell not Mags – let’s face it the way we are going in 20 years it will be Fiji and Samoa that is providing the aid to New Zimbabwe (Awwoterower for the woke).
  
  Better to go out in flaming glory
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:36am
kevn

@Tom… Can they supply me a car and running expenses?
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March 23, 2022 8:19am
- Pavel
  
  You do but there is only one option, a brand new Ford ranger and yes it comes with a fuel card.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:36am
leoj

95% of the over 12s are double jabbed.
Omicron is spreading.
Can’t blame the unvaxxed.

Show up at a restaurant door. Mask required.
Sit down in restaurant, mask not required.
Virus apparently only attacks those who are standing.

Masks are not stopping omicron.
Neither is the vaccine.

Both are a giant con,
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March 23, 2022 8:21am
- Rich Prick
  
  I’ve wondered why the bug leaves you alone while seated, but goes straight for you on the trip to the bog. One of life’s mysteries.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:22am
  - Joely Doe
    
    I’ve been waiting and watching for a restaurant to install mobile office chairs.
    
    Then everyone is safe, even when moving around.
    
    Perhaps a wheelchair restaurant won’t be so niche?
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:28pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Agree. Thank god I dug my toes in & rejected the poison.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:54pm
kiwikidsnz

https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/next-stop-for-co-governance-science-and-universities
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March 23, 2022 8:25am
Tauhei Notts

I recently got an email from the Registrar of Incorporated Societies. A new act is coming in to force in the near future. The email summarised the changes to the old 1908 act.
I read the email, and gave it considerable thought.
The unbelievable complexities that are being brought in could be the death of the voluntary sector of our country.
Think of your average fishing club, indoor bowls club, darts club, football club etc. The complexities to come in will make the administration of such voluntary organisations a minefield that few unpaid volunteers will take up. The myriad of those organisations throughout our country will be in strife. I think those outfits are a decent part of the fabric of our society.
That fabric will fray.
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March 23, 2022 8:26am
- Nickc2
  
  Can you please summarise the changes on KB or post a link to the changes?
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:35am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Sorry, Nickc2,
    My information technology skills are deficient on such a seemingly simple task. I do not know how to do links. I have found binomial theorem and differential calculus much easier.
    
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    March 23, 2022 4:15pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Have a look at this – https://www.wikihow.com/Copy-and-Paste-a-Link.
      
      Find an old General Debate thread and practice a few. If you have binomial theorem for breakfast then this will be a walk in the park for you. Good luck 🙂
      
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      March 23, 2022 4:25pm
- Ruahine
  
  “That fabric will fray”
  That is likely the intention of the legislation. Labour wants to have the Gov’ts grubby fingers controlling all aspects of life in New Zealand.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:36am
- Matt Long
  
  The Anti Money Laundering laws already make banking for a small volunteer organisation almost impossible.
  I wonder if the government are stupid or if they have an agenda.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:41am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Both.
    
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    March 23, 2022 8:54am
  - bjools
    
    I go for a bob each way.
    
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    March 23, 2022 8:55am
  - krazykiwi
    
    AML laws are a worldwide, and tightening state noose on the flow of private wealth. Their introduction was plausibility framed, but they’re now entrenched. Watch for these to be linked with central bank programmable digital currencies.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:03am
- RoboRob
  
  Was a board member on the PTA of an Intermediate school. The normal lifetime of a board member was between 2 and 4yrs, depending on the # of children to go through the school.
  
  You need a treasurer and that person frequently changes. We were dealing with Westpac and the rules around changing treasurer / signees were so over the top. Various branches had different rules based on their understanding! We worked a system where the exiting treasurer would phone around bank branches and eventually use the one that had the simplest requirements.
  Couldn’t believe that Westpac couldn’t get its head around the requirements and I can’t believe the government would now choose make it more complex.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:45am
  - Ian Boag
    
    I have been treasurer of a Probus Club (with ANZ) and a Vintage Car Club (with Westpac). The rules and procedures are a bit OTT. The Probus one had an annual turnover of something like 6k …. madness. Not enough for me to abscond to South America ….
    
    When the treasurer changes it is not unknown for the outgoing one to hand on their login/password while all the hoops are gone through …..
    
    Madness.
    
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    December 23, 2021 9:38am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Believe it, it’s entrenching of the bureaucrats. Get to a point were nothing can function without them.
    Their problem is humans are ingenious creatures and we tend to find ways to bypass these idiots. Inconvenient, but sometimes fun.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:40am
  - jonno1
    
    My wife and I merged our family trusts (which were mirror images) further to the Trusts Act 2019. All done legally through a specialist trust lawyer. No practical change of asset ownership, just paperwork. A new bank account number was needed. Westpac’s demands, purportedly under the AML, were beyond belief. It took 3 months of debate, and only got done when I demanded to know what clauses of the Act they were relying on. They didn’t reply, just finally carried out the requested task.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:46am
- Rich Prick
  
  It’s another step in Labour’s “tear it apart” agenda, by whatever means. I cannot see the problems they seek to fix with this. These people are out of control.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:49am
- kowtow
  
  Yes the original act recognised that society was civil and its interests best served when run by ordinary folk on their own behalf.
  
  Now because of one or two poor decisions in a tiny minority of societies but also because the powers that be claim to crack down on money laundering and other nefarious activities . again by a tiny minority , they want to make life impossible for all.
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:55am
- Paulus
  
  Will it include Marae – thought not.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:09am
- peterwn
  
  It could have a chilling effect on those who set up Incorporated Societies with names such as ‘New Era Power Inc’ whose sole aim is to oppose resource consent applications. If the group loses and has significant costs awarded against it, the group becomes insolvent and the successful party does not get the owed costs. Possibly, with the changes, the office holders could be help personally liable for such costs.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:16am
- cmm
  
  There is no need for voluntary organisations.
  The state must control everything.
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:22am
- ecco
  
  David Clark of mountain bike/cccfa balls up fame must have had something to do with this…
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:25pm
G152

Just on tender hooks awaiting Corindas announcement of the announcement that there will definitely be an announcement.
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March 23, 2022 8:33am
- RRM
  
  Today is the 2nd anniversary of the day we all went home for lockdown no.1. She will be keen to actually deliver something today!
  
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  March 23, 2022 1:17pm
Loddenthinks

I continue to despair at the plummeting standard of what is foisted upon us as “journalism” in this country.

Unless she was actually delivering the tinnies on a bicycle, in which case we could at least admire her efforts to keep fit while building a business, I sincerely doubt that the Taranaki woman was pedalling pot to school children.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/128127162/new-plymouth-woman-admits-pedalling-pot-to-school-children
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March 23, 2022 8:37am
- Frank the tank
  
  In Singapore that would be a death sentence if convicted. Most of the time I believe they have got it right and ourselves wrong when it comes to the policing of drugs
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Someone has seen your post…
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/128127162/new-plymouth-woman-admits-peddling-pot-to-school-children
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:12am
- graham
  
  Heh … someone at Stuff must read Kiwiblog … it’s been fixed. Either that, or some of the thousands of people in this country who actually know how to spell contacted them, hopefully laughing at them at the same time.
  
  But on another level, laughable rubbish like that does make a mockery of the articles that have been written recently, trying to convince us that we really shouldn’t believe what we read on social media, because it doesn’t get peer-reviewed and checked and proof-read like the real journalists do …
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:16am
- Nickc2
  
  Perhaps she was just running errands for the Mongrel Mob.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:34am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Another push bike activist …
  
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  March 23, 2022 5:51pm
Frank the tank

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/128117250/aucklands-future-report-sets-out-ninepoint-plan-to-prevent-supercity-dying

FMD. Is it just me or has this country got a virus that induces mental retardation? Urban National Park – I’ve heard it all now.

A prolonged period of recession/stagflation is now the only way of excising this disease from the woke elite. They are just divorced from planet real world.
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March 23, 2022 8:47am
I remember when

“North Taranaki Midweek: Tills buoyed by detour:
While some Taranaki businesses are feeling the pinch, a traffic detour is keeping Waitara tills ringing, especially those selling pies and petrol.
Since January light vehicles have had to detour off SH3 due to infrastructure work.
One bakery business estimated business was up by 20%.”
Traffic through a town doesn’t only have negative effects.
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March 23, 2022 8:55am
Frank the tank

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ron-desantis-emma-weyant-winner-over-lia-thomas-ncaa-trans-athletes

Do you think any one of our MPs would be mentally strong enough to call out the trans BS like DeSantis. Remember the runner up here as an Olympic gold medalist.

Amazingly none of these trailblazing athletes never seem to want to get rid of their block and tackle……Funny that.
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March 23, 2022 8:58am
Harry Knuts

it’s bad enough their jabbing kids but now they are doing it incorrectly – begs the question – this article just gives 2 cases – is there more? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/128130175/covid19-two-children-accidentally-given-adult-doses-of-vaccination
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March 23, 2022 8:58am
Rusty

An announcement today from our PM that all covid responses will be ditched and Nzers will return to normal life again?

Not holding my breath on that.

Any concessions our PM makes today will be based on polls and not on our health and well being.

Jacinda let Nzers look after their own health and well being — you are not our mummy or doctor.
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March 23, 2022 8:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  She’ll prolong our agony for as long as possible…
  perhaps a concession to orange traffic lights.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:16am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    One of the key drivers of the red light was hospitals struggling to cope. We now have more than 1000 people in hospital being treated for Covid or for some other condition complicated by Covid, and as at yesterday, there were 25 people in ICU, the most since the pandemic began. I can’t see her dropping from red light level at the moment.
    
    Rather, word from the beltway is that restrictions on crowds at outdoor events will be increased, or removed completely.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:22am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Cindy loves her rules. I’m picking any traffic light (yes it’s silly) change will be to burnt amber. Somewhere between red and orange, but closer to red. Masks on in the lift, but off in the office, on in the queue for coffee, but off when sat down. On when placing your order, off when it arrives. Insanity.
      
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      March 23, 2022 9:28am
    - cmm
      
      “We now have more than 1000 people in hospital being treated for Covid or for some other condition complicated by Covid”
      
      No, we have 1000 people in hospital testing positive for CV19.
      
      Many, if not most, have zero complications from CV19.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:25am
      - Show me the evidence
        
        I saw a news article that said 30% of pregnant woman coming in to have their babies are testing positive for covid!! They are not in hospital because they’re “sick” but to birth, yet they’re counted as covid hospitalisations!!
        
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        March 23, 2022 2:04pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That’s why she is hated from Kaitiaia yo the Bluff
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:33am
- Matt Long
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/barry-soper-why-cant-this-government-make-a-decision-and-announce-it-at-once/CAU62OIFQKYJWDF5TU3PTFT2S4/
  Why can’t the government make a decision and announce it? They want to induce Stockholm Syndrome and also jerk the chain around our necks to remind us who is in charge.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:43am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Exactly, wait for a watered down expectation, and maybe a timeline for mandates to be dropped
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:32am
- krazykiwi
  
  “you are not our mummy or doctor”
  
  Ardern is our megalomaniacal jailor.
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:35am
- Ra Henare
  
  End of Vax pass 4th April…..Couldnt do it today or Friday for propaganda reasons I suspect.
  Her excuse, the models show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  Still hanging on the Mandate Hysteria fro Health??!!!
  But mandate for some…Yep. Didnt mention the Court decision regarding thse people…
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:15pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  Aunty Ardern… along with Aunty Helen… hahaha one in the same…
  
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  March 23, 2022 1:31pm
MCōs

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I see Rafael Nadal, who had to pull out of the Indian Wells final due to shortness of breath, now claims he has a ‘rib stress fracture’.
Yeah right.
We all know it was some sort of delayed covid-19 experimental vaccine reaction from a year ago.
I’m expecting these stupid tennis players to go down like flies, except the peoples’ hero Van Morrison.
According to Damien de Ment millions of us are going to drop dead this year from the vaccines. It was to have been last year, but . . . . . .
https://twitter.com/te_taipo/status/1506347932765007872?s=21
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March 23, 2022 9:07am
- Matt Long
  
  I hope not MCos, the disposal of 95% of the population would be a bit of a logistics nightmare. One thing in our favour is New Zealand has the highest number of diggers per Capita in the world so mass burials could work.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:47am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Oh, you mean the same bullshit as “3 weeks to flatten the curve”, or “the vaccine will sort this out, just like a measles vaccine”, or “masks don’t work”, “whoops, masks do work”?
  
  We could have a lot of fun just pointing out the bullshit that people say on the internet couldn’t we?! Either that or cat videos, a nice way to fill the void while we wait for the princess to address her minions.
  Oh, Van Morrison isn’t a tennis player afaik.
  
  Now about the 500% increase in sports people collapsing with heart issues that you were given stats for yesterday with a link….
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:54am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Oh FFS
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:35am
- krazykiwi
  
  You keep your head in the sand, MCos. It’s better for all of us.
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:37am
I remember when

I saw an article on how to garden to combat climate change.
Have decided to give it a go.
How will I know whether I have been successful or not?
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March 23, 2022 9:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  When your expensive force-fed little treasure turns up its toes, blame climate change, rather than your lousy care.
  
  When your weeds run rampant, blame climate change, not your lousy care.
  
  When folks admire your gardening efforts, take all the credit – don’t mention the climate.
  
  It’s a win-win game, I’ve discovered.
  
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  March 23, 2022 9:21am
- mawm
  
  Plant some “spekboom” (Portularcaria afra). The South African “bacon tree” is a super absorber of CO2 apparently. Although you might need lots of hectares to make a difference.
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:48pm
Maggie Pie

‘Better Work Stories’……. they walk among us 😀

https://twitter.com/LexRegina72/status/1506170047034986499
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March 23, 2022 9:14am
I remember when

Meanwhile in the real world.
Wairarapa Times-Age:
Featherston Community Board members have passed the buck on a road naming conundrum.
Half of Underhill Road is in Greytown and the other in Featherston, divided by the Tauherenikau River.
The same numbering system is used on both sides of the river, resulting in duplicate addresses.
Complaints were laid by NZ Post in 2019.
Featherston Community Board were quick to dismiss need for consultation in their town.
If Greytown wanted to change name of Underhill Road on their side, they could do so.
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March 23, 2022 9:29am
- krazykiwi
  
  Surely Overriver Road is more appropriate than Underhill Road?
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:21am
RRM

According to my records (facebook photos!) today is the 2nd anniversary of the day we all went home as directed and began the first lockdown.

Happy plague-versary everyone!
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March 23, 2022 9:42am
Tony Stuart

Bugger. Christopher Luxon is visiting Whanganui today, and I have been involved in organising his visit. He’s got a sold-out lunch with business owners, a meeting with farmers, a visit to an organisation that trains disabled people to join the workforce and a sold-out dinner tonight organised by the local National Party.

Unfortunately, I won’t be there. I started coughing yesterday, and it’s worse this morning. A RAT test last night was negative, but I’m being sensible and staying away. I know; it’s just a flu, and we’re all going to catch it anyway, and I could easily justify tagging along with the LotO today. But no, I’ll be responsible, and pissed off!

The good news is that a whole lot of Whanganui people are going to meet Christopher Luxon today, and hopefully be impressed by him. The bad news is that I won’t be one of them!
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March 23, 2022 9:50am
- krazykiwi
  
  Please ask one of your attending mates to ask Luxon this question:
  
  “Will you entrench the BORA, placing it outside the abuse of parliament and instituting penalties for any government that abuses the freedom and liberty of New Zealander in contravention of the Act? And if not, why not?”
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:19am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    But but but, Cindy’s big bad cabinet gave her emergency rules do she could stamp her feet
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:52am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    What’s the point of entrenching Acts? The entrenching clause can always be undone by a simple majority.
    
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    March 23, 2022 5:59pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Husband’s initial RAT test was negative despite a very high temperature. Tested positive on the 2nd day.
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:23am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I’m pretty much resigned to that.
    
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    March 23, 2022 8:12pm
- Sacha
  
  Live to fight another day!
  Gargle (salt and water). Keep up with the vitamins and zinc.
  Take Panadol if you feel feverish, 2 tabs/8 hourly.
  Drink LOTS of water. Eat what little you fancy.
  Keep warm, avoid changes in temperature (very important).
  It took me a good 12 days to feel right again, all day, but now I’m feeling fit again – well, as fit as an 85 yo can be.
  Take Care
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:31am
  - Hebe123
    
    It’s good to hear you recovered well. Did you take the shots? (Asking for my 80 yr old parents healthy and up jabbed family members!)
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:51pm
  - JohnRidd
    
    Do not forget, an apple a day keeps the doctor away.
    
    Apple skin (red) has quercetin which is a zinc ionophore. It transports zinc across the cell membrane. Zinc needs to cross the membrane to get to where it can interrupt the the virus replicating.
    
    Red onions also have quercetin.
    
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    March 24, 2022 6:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Bad luck gor the scallywag wag that got voted in last election, Luxon is getting sold out sittings everywhere, another one this week in CHCH
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:50am
- curry4me
  
  Get well soon. I hope Chris Luxon continues to be well received everywhere. No protesters chasing his van, I guess.
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:43pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Different for everyone, but given the hype Covid’s been a real let-down not even rating first place in normal yearly illnesses. My family’s experience so far is not as bad as even a mild hangover for adults, and a day of mild fevers needing some extra sleep and quiet time in front of TV for the kids before bouncing back the following day. Barely any coughs or sniffles.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:20pm
Opie

I like the tweet below where some amoeba is saying how great it is to see school kids wearing masks outside.

It’s a disgrace.

Is this just fear induced psychosis or are they actually just dumb and think its blowing around in the wind?

The last 2 years has revealed a serious lack of intelligence in the human race
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March 23, 2022 9:53am
- mandk
  
  The amoeba you refer to is probably the sort that wears a mask, even when they are alone at home.
  
  It just proves that masks impede the flow of oxygen to the brain.
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:52am
- curry4me
  
  I agree, its child abuse. Those responsible should be charged accordingly.
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:44pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…..

“Labor’s soft on crime approach – epitomised by Jacinda Ardern giving $2.75 million taxpayers money to the Mongrel Mob – has led to a dangerous explosion in gang violence”

– Dr Muriel Newman

And I thort this tweet summed things up nicely…..

https://twitter.com/SDBrave007/status/1506137440230129672
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March 23, 2022 10:01am
- Opie
  
  That should come with a warning Maggie…
  
  I just vomited into my mouth a little.
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:36am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The mongrel mob have also been given a huge supply of rats tests, they received them months before the public
  
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  March 23, 2022 10:54am
  - chukar
    
    Troll on GG
    
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    March 23, 2022 7:58pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Anyone seen Muriel Newman and Senator Palpatine in the same room together?
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:05am
  - Joely Doe
    
    Anyone seen Martin and Martyn in the same room together?
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:39pm
Maggie Pie

WORD OF THE DAY … courtesy Labor MP Marja Lubeck

Lalochezia (n)
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March 23, 2022 10:20am
- Frank the tank
  
  I wonder if Air New Zealand will have Marja from 2024. Imagine travelling across to the Goldy and having Marja serving your drinks. She’d have her boosted sticker on her lapel……..
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:17am
Surely Knott

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300546148/omichronicles-march-22-im-31-healthy-and-boosted-omicron-put-me-in-hospital

Boosted and in hospital. Another rare breakthrough infection gets past three injections. But don’t say it’s ineffective or you’re in a rabbit hole. Anyways the author is surprised at the severity of her symptoms as she is young and boosted. (although she never questions the effectiveness of her vaccine – go figure)

1. My questions are: when was she boosted? Did she have a booster and then an infection shortly after causing extreme symptoms.

2. She has to wait for 8 hours with 24 other people in a carpark tent to get “triaged” How does this work. Are people separated. Are they warm and fed and lying in a bed and given drinks and toilets in the tent?

3. She was admitted to the actual hospital only after vomitting. So i guess she is then counted as a covid boosted hospitalisation. But are the people in the tent all triaged to hospital or is this a mobile hospital. Are the people in the tent counted as part of the hospitalisation statistics.
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March 23, 2022 10:29am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I would wager if the test was available she’s in hospital as a reaction to her vaccination.
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:41am
ecco

Excellent interview by Hosking with John Key on how Ardern and Robertson are racking up debt in the name of covid like there’s no tommorrow. No attempt to grow GDP and just putting it all on the nation’s credit card.
If you missed it it’s on the week on demand option on the newstalk zb site at the 7am slot. Worth a listen. Just makes you shudder at the financial calibre of the crowd we have in power now compared to when JK was running things.
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March 23, 2022 10:33am
- Scott
  
  ecco – couldn’t agree more. Four minutes of John Key and he speaks more sense than four years worth of Jacinda.
  Wouldn’t it be nice if we had an adult like John Key running the country again?
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:32am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Shouldn’t be allowed into Parliament if you haven’t managed a team of 10 people in delivering some difficult/challenging result or passed Econ101 (online courses available).
  
  Require all elected MP’s to project manage the building of 10 houses each during their first year in parliament and eject ones that do a crap job.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:26pm
Opie

Announcement at 11am today.

I’ll take 6 minutes late and 7 minutes of waffle about how well she has done and how many lives saved before any actual release of information.

Taking all bets now…
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March 23, 2022 10:42am
- Spam
  
  I won’t be watching. Please let me know when it’s over, and what important bits you’ve sieved out of the waffle.
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:43am
  - Opie
    
    No way I’m watching it. Stopped after the first one to announce the alert level system in march 2020.
    
    Can’t stand the noise it makes.
    Cant stand the sight of it.
    Can’t stand what it has done to this country.
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:16pm
  - kowtow
    
    I got snatches of the Great Communicador .
    
    Low lights;
    
    wanna
    tryna
    communidy
    vaccinaded
    mandaded
    operading
    somethink
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:21pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      You forgot “bin” and “vunnrible”
      
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      March 23, 2022 12:34pm
      - zulumonster
        
        and my favourite – “jepradise”
        
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        March 23, 2022 12:51pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Looks like I’ll be able to dodge a third shot of Cindy’s potion. The first good thing in quite a while. Expect any business or organisation that carries on with the vaccination pass to be empty and headed for insolvency.
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:33pm
Suze Wainwright

Jacinda’s succumbed to the pressure of Big Rugby…
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March 23, 2022 11:15am
- Nickc2
  
  About fucking time too!
  
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  March 23, 2022 1:43pm
- Rusty
  
  50,000 at Eden park for the next Blues match.
  
  And special guest our PM with her face beaming on the big screen —the boos would be deafening.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:27pm
Maggie Pie

“There are currently 160,000 low-skilled workers in the country waiting to have their Residency approved. All of whom will be Labor voters”

– Duncan Garner. TodayFM.
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March 23, 2022 11:27am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Yikes!
  
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  March 23, 2022 6:05pm
ClanMcleod

So Ardern lies again. Mandates and vax passes saved us. But the evidence is clear now, that vaccines don’t work which means mandates did nothing. Vax passes did nothing. Other than what she admitted during the dribble from the pulpit of truth, they forced people to get vaccines who would not have otherwise.
Mandates and vax passes were nothing more than tools to bully people into doing something they didn’t want to do. They were NOTHING to do with health.
“Kind and caring”. Indeed.
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March 23, 2022 11:29am
- KKKKatee
  
  Says she didn’t want them but had to agree then went overboard & mandated hospitality. I’m suggesting she’s lying. ?
  
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  March 23, 2022 8:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump was right again. She was warned not to mess with him.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-gloats-after-winning-court-case-stormy-daniels-is-ordered-to-pay-his-legal-fees/?
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March 23, 2022 11:35am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Trump declared a winner against a cheater
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:37am
- Nickc2
  
  Unfortunately Steve it won’t win back the women voters she poisoned against him. I think she achieved the damage she set out to achieve and the rest is history.
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:40am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There will always be TDS. Tell me he’s not coming back in 2024. The cheating Dems have been exposed
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:36pm
ClanMcleod

Verrall now publicly stating they are going to keep the tools like masks etc for all seasonal illnesses.
This is insanity is being entrenched. These people are fucked in the head. Completely and utterly irrational bunch of fuckwits.
This just goes from bad to worse.
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March 23, 2022 11:45am
- Cinematic
  
  They are loath to relinquish any control and what a royal commission will show is they ignored expert advice on a regular and ongoing basis. Covid is a purely political tool for them and now they’re adding endemic seasonal viruses to the mix. It is utter madness.
  
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  March 23, 2022 11:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Without Covid, Jaspinda has nothing going for her – and she knows it.
    Socialist Leaders never relinquish control without a fight
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:38pm
  - artemisia
    
    Good point about a royal commission. We have been told over and over and over that government decisions are following expert advice. A royal commission will require cards on the table if TOR allow. Which is not necessarily the case.
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:48pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Why can’t we just let folk do what they want? Before COVID many people wore masks in public – maybe 20 to 30 percent. But there is no law.
  
  I’m not going to judge people who wear masks. Maybe if I have a bad cold I will wear a mask. Just stay out of our lives. 🙁
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:02pm
  - Scott
    
    30% of people did not wear masts in public before covid. This is New Zealand. We have plenty of clean air and we don’t need to wear masks.
    
    Masks need to go as soon as possible.
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:25pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So do the people who force us to wear them. Roll on 2023, the crushing is going to be yuge
      
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      March 23, 2022 12:41pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “we don’t need to wear masks”
      
      Who is this “we”? I do not speak for other folk. If someone wants to wear a mask let them. Be tolerant. I am just saying the Government needs to stay out of it.
      
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      March 23, 2022 1:04pm
      - Show me the evidence
        
        I agree, wearing a mask may be appropriate if you know you have a cold and don’t want to spread it around, or if you think it will protect you. Also, if there’s anything we should have learnt from all this is “one size does not fit all” and people should not be judged for how they wish to live their life (as long as they don’t harm others). A true democracy protects people but gives them as much freedom as is possible to choose their own path.
        
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        March 23, 2022 2:13pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        We = You, us, and company, Kemosabe
        
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        March 23, 2022 3:36pm
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    WTF? 20-30% of people did not wear masks in public before Covid. That is a delusional claim.
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:32pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I meant to say “20-30% of people IN JAPAN” wear masks outdoors. Sorry about that 🙁
      
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      March 23, 2022 2:03pm
      - Spenditb4theytaxit
        
        20 to 30 people in NZ used to wear masks. I had never seen anyone wearing a mask until I went to Hong Kong on a holiday.
        
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        March 23, 2022 6:57pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Staying out of our lives means loss of control. This is just the beginning
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:40pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    BY exactly, wear a mask if you want. Government should have zero say in these things.
    
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    March 23, 2022 12:50pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Sorry that was a commenting fail 🙁
    
    It should have read:
    
    “Before COVID many people IN JAPAN wore masks in public – maybe 20 to 30 percent. But there is no law.”
    
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    March 23, 2022 1:06pm
  - Nickc2
    
    How to spot Labour voters. They’re the ones wearing and buying facemasks.
    
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    March 23, 2022 1:13pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Wearing them in their car – alone!
      
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      March 23, 2022 3:38pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      And still performing the pointless task of scanning in despite all of the contact tracers being sacked and no “places of interest” lists.
      
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      March 23, 2022 4:17pm
  - Hebe123
    
    Well I have seen maybe a couple of people wear them in the past 20 years up until this. I guess we mix in different circles.
    
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    March 23, 2022 9:55pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    BY: If you have a bad cold. Won’t wearing a mask make it a pain when your nose is constantly running? I don’t buy into that.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:19pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Yep. There is nothing to celebrate here. The return of stolen rights does not see compensation for the aggrieved, nor punishments for the tormentor.
  
  Luxon: Find a spine, sir. It’s time to quit the glad handing. It’s time to nail your colours to the mast in respect of the protection of our civil liberties.
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:55pm
  - Stellaboxer
    
    I agree KK until he comes out and clearly states that all assumed powers around covid will be gone in his first term he won’t get my vote. If Labour get in and try this bullshit for seasonal ailments Im leaving the country to its fate.
    
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    March 23, 2022 4:39pm
- Frank the tank
  
  bhahahahaha. Why are you surprised or shocked? They will only go when the polls dictate they will go.
  
  Here’s a prediction the first poll that has Labour in the 20’s will predicate removal of all remaining restrictions.
  
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  March 23, 2022 1:42pm
Maggie Pie

It’s only Ratepayer’s money…..

https://twitter.com/Edward345672/status/1506179393978343434

SHEESH!!
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March 23, 2022 11:49am
- graham
  
  Looks like that’s a couple of years old … here’s the original story:
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2019/08/new-porirua-city-council-smiley-face-logo-has-98-000-price-tag.html
  
  The Taxpayers’ Union questioned it, saying “Councils do not need to engage in corporate branding exercises … (they) do not need to market themselves to their ratepayers, who are already a captive audience”.
  
  The council said they wanted to reflect with the city’s “youthful population” – to which at least one person asked precisely why the council needed to connect with youth. “Youth don’t pay rates,” he said. “The council isn’t their parents.”
  
  Bizarrely, the council justified the cost, saying “The cost is typical for this type, quality and level of work.”
  
  Quality? Have they looked at it?!
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:02pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Cheers for posting grah!
    I’m in Remmers so tend to rely on Twitter for news outside the hood.
    Excellent get by the NZTU 😀
    
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    March 23, 2022 1:01pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  You’d think they could have at least got the smiley face straight…….
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:54pm
ClanMcleod

The funniest thing about this circus is watching Verrall taking her mask on and off between questions. The virtue signaling is outstanding.
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March 23, 2022 11:50am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  The words are irrelevant. These stand-up presentations are designed to be just as effective when they are watched with the sound down, perhaps more, because words complicate things for many people. The repetitive images are far more important than any of the words used.
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:36pm
- Steve Todd
  
  I need to make sure I am nowhere near a television or radio at 11am or it is liable to finish up being thrown through a window. [ClanMcleod at 8:51AM]
  
  I bet you watched the prime minister, too. You did, didn’t you, Clan?
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:57pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I did not watch, but I guess many did. Just gathering info to fire back at her and Labour mid 2023 – when the free shit bullshit starts
    
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    March 23, 2022 3:41pm
surfing

This government never heard of indoor sports, which are quite screwed, still.
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March 23, 2022 12:07pm
- alex Masterley
  
  How do you deal with Rugby at Forsyth Barr Stadium or netball at spark arena?
  And are the food and beverage areas at say Eden Park indoor or outdoor?
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:38pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Lots of ‘indoor sports’ swept under the carpet in the bee’s nest
  
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  March 23, 2022 3:42pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB4seJSQl2A
Biden Declares The Rise of a NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

Did Alex Jones just get proven right? What on earth is Biden talking about with the rise of a new world order? Well that’s what we’re going to explore in this video! We’re going to look at what Biden said, we’re going to see how it relates to what’s called the Fourth Turning espoused by Steve Bannon, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal what the new world order that’s rising really is. [10:54. Bush 41 said the same thing after the Berlin Wall went down. NWO as in globalism, and the USA as the sole remaining super power. Plus the usual suspects looking at China with dollar signs in their eyes. They assumed trade would bring democracy. Either that, or the whole shebang gets taken over by a 90s WWE wrestling team. Think in terms of civilizational states.]
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March 23, 2022 12:08pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1YF36JM__w
Cold War II | Niall Ferguson

Historian Niall Ferguson talks to John about China’s cold war with western democracies and how they pose a threat to authoritarian governments. [4:22. Cold War 1.0 worked out alright for the good guys. Let’s hope Cold War 2.0 does too. China is the senior partner now.]
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March 23, 2022 12:08pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Man captured on CCTV defacing building with Swastikas.

MSM furious that it means they can’t blame ‘whitey’

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1506382309485944836
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March 23, 2022 12:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Maybe he identifies as a ‘whitey’
  It is in New York
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:48pm
I remember when

So the Government has suddenly become aware of the need for cash when getting into sports events.
How many Vaccination Passports will be inspected between now and the 4th April?
Wellbeing only the major requirement until the cash runs out?
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March 23, 2022 12:11pm
Warren

If anyone thinks our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern went to today press conference to explain why they are about to change the settings on the traffic light system, it was more about getting the elder Generation and those at risk back into the Labour fold than any thing else.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-rules-changed-outdoor-gathering-limits-scrapped-vaccine-passes-and-some-mandates-end-april-4-jacinda-ardern/C6P6WKNMH45S2EB54YBCW76OHI/
Listen to the press conference to see the political posturing and bullshit from someone desperate to get people back on her side and remain the Government in 2023.
One hour of watching the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern trying her hardest to treat the media circus to her form of political comedy.
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March 23, 2022 12:16pm
CAKE FACE1

I was mulling over what will be Cindy’s legacy, after she loses the next election.

The easy answer would be that she is the person who has presided over a government that has made everything demonstrably worse. Nothing is better than when she started in 2017. I cannot think of any exceptions. Everything is worse.

This theory is elegant, simply because it is correct, and yet I favour something else as being Cindy’s great legacy.

Cindy has been honest about her struggles with her mental health. She said that she suffers from an anxiety disorder and imposters syndrome. We could safely add the white saviour complex and the messiah complex to her list of mental illnesses.

Cindy won a landslide victory. How did she achieve this? I think she achieved this by launching a fear campaign of an intensity and duration that has never been seen before in New Zealand, and seldom been seen before anywhere else. Previously confident, optimistic people were turned into nervous wrecks, by a blitzkrieg of unmitigated fear propaganda.

Back in 1987, New Zealand’s sporting teams were on fire. The economy was roaring. People were happy, confident and ambitious.

Now, the country is fearful, and hiding under their beds. The culture has been changed. It has even infected our sporting teams. To be successful, they need to play without fear.

Somehow, the entire culture New Zealand has changed. We have become a nation of fearful, insular, anxious bed wetters.

This, then, is the great legacy of Cindy. She has somehow projected her anxiety based mental illnesses onto the entire population.
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March 23, 2022 12:38pm
- Jimmy Brown
  
  Cant argue with any of that.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:26pm
- Allan
  
  I am pretty certain that after leaving office she will be villified by the public so much that living in NZ will be virtually impossible for her. I will have absolutely no sympathy for her either as she will deserve all of the garbage and hatred that will be thrown at her. The damage to the economy that her policies have caused will take years to fix if ever, and as for the psychological damage done to many citizens of NZ who knows what the end result will be. She should never be forgiven for her actions.
  
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  March 23, 2022 4:55pm
- kowtow
  
  Peter Dunne on the trannie the other day , And to be fair he;s been in the game a long time.
  
  He said he was amazed at how the country was so compliant . he didn’t think we’dda been so .
  
  Just goes to show. The fear factor instilled , imho , by the Media Pardy , backed up by state sanctions , was very very effective . Scary.
  
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  March 23, 2022 5:03pm
Ehlana

The short answer:
“The Government is scrapping the limit on outdoor gatherings from Friday and has revealed the end of vaccine pass use and mandates for some industries from next month.

The number of people allowed to gather inside increases from 100 to 200 under the changes to the red light traffic setting.

Masks will continue to be used, but today’s move means outdoor concerts, sports and other outdoor events would be able to resume under the red setting.

The traffic light changes will kick in from this Friday…

Vaccine passes will not longer be required to be used from April 4.

The Government is also ending the controversial vaccine mandates in education, police or Defence Force workers and those workplaces using them from April 4.”

From https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-rules-changed-outdoor-gathering-limits-scrapped-vaccine-passes-and-some-mandates-end-april-4-jacinda-ardern/
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March 23, 2022 12:40pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Masks will continue to be required right up until the election. They have become a propaganda tool to impose social control and keep reminding the sheeple how many lives Cindy saved.
  
  As my partner just said… it’s Gerbills 101.
  
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  March 23, 2022 1:19pm
  - MCōs
    
    You may or may not care whether you catch covid-19 or pass it on. Or maybe you think they’re all a political sideshow.
    This woman tends to think they are useful, with good reason.
    https://twitter.com/samanthaweiser1/status/1501405347403247624?s=21
    
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    March 23, 2022 5:18pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Did she clarify the question asked if school Board of Trustees could still mandate vaccines for staff? She didn’t seem to be sure, but indicated that BoTs could still specify vaccine requirements for staff I believe.
  
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  March 23, 2022 1:19pm
  - Warren
    
    No, she was caught out and lost for words , bailed out from a answer she had no intentions of answering.
    
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    March 23, 2022 3:22pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Vaccine passes no longer being mandatory will be interesting. The only reason it had legal standing was because of the supposed “public good” but that doesn’t exist if it isn’t mandatory. Therefore, any business requiring vaccine passes will be discriminating based on health choices. Seems like a dangerous thing to do for a business.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:03pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes, very dangerous I should think. If my cafe* decided to admit only men, or to bar gay gingers, or to bar pregnant persons with vaginas I would rightly expect the force of the law to be applied.
    
    We already have the BORA which should prevent medical-based discrimination, but the government has shown itself willing to legislate in contravention of that Act.
    
    What we need is an opposition leader with a spine (yeah, yeah I know) who is prepared to tackle this. Not holding my breath.
    
    *I don’t have a cafe!
    
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    March 23, 2022 4:36pm
    - Hebe123
      
      The Human Rights Commission stated, in response to my complaint, that it was not discriminatory to prevent access to people on the basis of vaccination status.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:03pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I haven’t been asked for my vaccine pass since the cases began surging. It’s as though businesses saw that there was no point in enforcing Cindy’s stupid rules.
  
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  March 23, 2022 4:27pm
- Aurelia
  
  Are they going to re hire the teachers, nurses, docs, midwives etc etc etc etc that they fired on Dec 3rd 2021? If so these employers should tell their ex bosses their salary expectation just increased by 20%.
  
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  March 24, 2022 7:15pm
Ehlana

For clarity, that is this Friday at 11:59pm.
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March 23, 2022 12:43pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why could it not have been 12pm today.
  3 more days of ‘look at me, look at me’
  
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  March 23, 2022 12:52pm
Homas

There’s significance to the passage of time.

Just sayin’
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March 23, 2022 12:57pm
- cjn
  
  That’s exactly what Kamala Harris was saying! It must be important!! There’s a video of her on Youtube behind her podium making her point. She could be drunk or she having a mental breakdown.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:58pm
Maggie Pie

Tatiana txts latest UPDATE on the horrors now taking place in Ukraine 🙁

‘Russian soldiers raping women and shooting civilians they find hiding in the basements of their homes. Images emerge of captured Russian soldier which show him carrying vast stack of condoms in his pockets’

https://mol.im/a/10640415
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March 23, 2022 1:40pm
- Aurelia
  
  Never heard of rapists using rubbers before?
  
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  March 24, 2022 7:16pm
Maggie's partner

you can stick your vaccine pass right up your vaccine pass!
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March 23, 2022 1:41pm
Yabster

I am sure the hospitality sector are stoked to hear from Cindy:

she said “changes to the setting were appropriate as the Government now knew far more – including that hospitality was not actually causing much infection”.
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March 23, 2022 1:47pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “hospitality was not actually causing much infection”
  
  What a stupid thing to say. The government knows nothing because they only listen to ‘experts’ who have been hand-picked because they support the government’s policy objectives. Had they been authentically interested, then would have known that trying to contain or eradicate a coronavirus that has an animal reservoir has always been pointless. The evidence in support of this assertion pre-dates SARS-CoV-2 by a decade.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:10pm
  - kowtow
    
    Anecdotally schools and universities are major super spreader locations ……….and they’re funded by hers truly.
    
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    March 23, 2022 2:21pm
    - Hebe123
      
      To be fair, we only know about unis of fully vaxxed. Might not have been as bad in an unvaxxed population.
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:05pm
kevn

It all just sticks, like sh*t to a blanket.
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March 23, 2022 1:51pm
2ic

Amazing what a couple of bad poll results will do. Vax passes being scrapped and 20,000 cases today!
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March 23, 2022 1:59pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Indeed, and I also note it was filed under Politics on $1uffed. Gosh, it’s almost as though they’ve given up all pretence at it being about health and safety!
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:25pm
  - Warren
    
    It’s political fraud from Jacinda Ardern taking credit for a plan that never worked and still won’t work because these experts are not prepared to give up the gravy train that our Prime Minister has created.
    
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    March 23, 2022 2:39pm
- MCōs
  
  Everyone knows the reported positive infection numbers don’t mean a bag of beans.
  They are undoubtedly only the tip of the iceberg.
  On the other hand the numbers of infected people in hospitals is no doubt reasonable accurate.
  However
  That number is still at record levels and whether the infected person is there because they are infected or not they still have to be isolated in a designated covid-19 ward.
  A couple of days ago I accompanied my wife to an see a doctor at the Manukau Super Centre and she said Middlemore was still struggling to cope.
  
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  March 23, 2022 5:04pm
  - Batman
    
    550k recorded but estimated that it is more like 1,700,000 total
    
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    March 23, 2022 5:53pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    My neighbour came out of Middlemore hospital at the weekend. Said there were a lot of staff seemingly hanging around doing nothing, including not paying attention to those in the beds. Didn’t get a meal. Neighbour left a day earlier than expected… had a guts full.
    
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    March 23, 2022 10:30pm
Maggie Pie

Things that make you go hmmm…..

One of the girls from tennis reckons the way this City’s gone in the last five years, with Goff at the helm and Labor’s soft approach to Lauren Forcement….we could just as easily be reading about Britomart 🙁

https://trib.al/ZENgmJd
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March 23, 2022 2:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Why are we waiting??

Is there some scientific/health reason why vaccine passes go on April 5 and not March 23?

Waiting until 5 April for vaccine passes and mandates to go makes no sense. They should go immediately.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2203/S00186/weve-done-the-mahi-its-time-for-the-treats.htm
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March 23, 2022 2:31pm
- alex Masterley
  
  And why wait till today instead of announcing it all on Monday after the cabinet meeting.
  All she had to say is “Cabinet has agreed in principal to the following changes etc, intended to take effect on [whatever date is selected]
  Why Mondays performance was needed is beyond me.
  
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  March 23, 2022 2:49pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Stage management. The potential for good news is signaled early and often for maximum exposure. Bad news is dropped without warning at 4pm on a Friday for minimum exposure.
    
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    March 23, 2022 3:21pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Or, in the case of the “Listener 7” slandered by the pink-haired attention-seeking corpulent hypocrite in an opinion piece published by $1uffed, the “clarification” was dropped at 5pm on New Year’s Eve (which was also a Friday).
      
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      March 23, 2022 10:19pm
  - kowtow
    
    Barry Soper opined it was deliberate , in order to build up the anticipation, had everyone hanging out for her .
    as kk says below , stage management or as we’ve been saying since the outset of this scamdemic ; theatre .
    
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    March 23, 2022 5:00pm
- Warren
  
  But Maggy W. Jacinda Ardern now has the tools to help contain Omicron and can use them in different situations and as a example these tools will be used with our flue vaccines this winter says our Prime Minister when taking questions after her announcement on the traffic light system and vaccines with mandates this morning in her Press Conference.
  Does this sound like she won’t take us back to any of he contentious issues of the past.
  
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  March 23, 2022 3:06pm
Ehlana

You can’t announce something and have it effective immediately Maggy.

Because Reasons, you know.

It came from the Podium of Truth, isn’t that good enough for you?
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March 23, 2022 2:38pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  They have to give a reason for the term “an Ardernity” to exist. How else is Jacinda going to get imortalised?
  
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  March 23, 2022 3:06pm
krazykiwi

Here we go, team. If you die as a result of a vaccine adverse reaction your life insurance company may decline to pay out because they regard the vaccine as an experimental treatment (not covered), and because the risks were well known your death could be considered suicide (not covered).
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March 23, 2022 2:42pm
- JerJer
  
  I called my insurer months ago. They said their policies covered death as a result of vaccine (the covid one) and any other vaccine approved by medsafe.
  
  They also described covid as a mild flu like respiratory disease.
  
  When insurance companies consider it non-dangerous (relative to my health and age) that’s when you know what j dog is telling us is BS. Any hint of a payout and the insurers wouldn’t cover it.
  
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  March 23, 2022 5:44pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  I believe that insurance companies cover death by suicide if that occurred some time after the policy was active. What about if you were mandated to have the jab? That wouldn’t be suicide would it? That would be survival.
  
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  March 23, 2022 7:43pm
CAKE FACE1

I watched legacy television news last night for the first time in months.

I decided to watch Prime News, with Eric Young, because it’s only 30 minutes.

He started by babbling something very quickly that sounded like:

HeyMinnyIsABeudyKoutouKatoa

Who is Minny? Why is she important? What does it all mean?
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March 23, 2022 2:45pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Who said it is a she? Many (more that 50) genders you know
  
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  March 23, 2022 3:45pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Covid has jumped species, reptilians now susceptible: https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1506397903765581836?
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March 23, 2022 3:14pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She is desperate. Sees an opening in 2024. Who else in the shallow Democratic puddle?
  If she should ever win, the whole pedo mess between the Dems, Hollywood, and Epstein will be silenced forever.
  If she should lose, you need a rear vision mirror on your glasses.
  
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  March 23, 2022 3:51pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING……

Green Party list MP’s rumored to be considering ‘donating 50% of their Parliamentary salaries’ to assist in providing FREE N95 MASKS to the disabled and whanau on lowest incomes.

https://twitter.com/NZGreens/status/1506407851673407489
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March 23, 2022 4:09pm
- graham
  
  What if you have a family, not a whanau?
  
  It has become common to use the word whanau instead of family, but from my (admittedly limited) understanding, the terms are not actually interchangeable.
  
  From https://teara.govt.nz/en/whanau-maori-and-family/page-1
  
  Whānau is often translated as ‘family’, but its meaning is more complex. It includes physical, emotional and spiritual dimensions and is based on whakapapa. Whānau can be multi-layered, flexible and dynamic. Whānau is based on a Māori and a tribal world view. It is through the whānau that values, histories and traditions from the ancestors are adapted for the contemporary world.
  
  Whānau relationships include those with whāngai (foster children) and those who have passed on. There are roles and responsibilities for individuals and for the collective. The structure of whānau can vary from immediate family to much broader collectives. The most important features of whānau that distinguish it from family and other social groupings are whakapapa, spirituality and the responsibility to marae and hapū.
  
  Using the term whanau when you really mean family is surely cultural appropriation, isn’t it?
  
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  March 23, 2022 5:05pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Whānau means whatever you want it to, unless one is white/male/conversative in which case you’ll be told which definition you are permitted to adopt.
    
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    March 23, 2022 6:06pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The hubby wasn’t familiar with the word – tamariki.
      
      So I told him it meant children,
      
      “Oh”, he replied, ” I thought that was mokopuna”
      
      “Well, they’re a special type of tamariki.
      
      For instance, we have mokopuna, even though our tamariki don’t have tamariki”, I told him.
      
      He gave up listening at that point.
      
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      March 23, 2022 6:30pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yeah, well it’s no good asking me grah….I wouldn’t have a f!!!ing cloo 😀
    
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    March 23, 2022 6:48pm
  - greybeard
    
    How on earth did maori have a “world view” ?
    
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    March 23, 2022 7:29pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  So, ‘considering’.
  
  I call bullshit on the chance of that ever happening.
  
  Quite apart from anything else, Greens are literally tithed (10%) by the Party. 50% here. Marginal tax rate is 39%.
  
  Doesn’t leave much.
  
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  March 23, 2022 6:17pm
Nostradamus

I’m wondering if the Kiwiblog IT experts can provide some advice.

Your password for http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz is at risk.
Microsoft Edge found your password in a set of known breached credentials. Change it immediately to make your account more secure.

This happened a few weeks ago, and I changed my password (using links in Kiwiblog – not some dodgy link in a pop-up box), so it seems weird that the issue this has come up again. Is Kiwiblog an unsecure website or something?

Yes, I know some people will say just use a different browser, but I don’t really want to have Edge, Firefox, Mozilla and whatever else on my PC – and Kiwiblog is the only website where this is an issue.
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March 23, 2022 5:47pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Nostra,
  
  Do you use the same password at KB as at other sites? What can happen is that other sites get compromised and your email/password combination end up on the dark web, for sale in lists of thousands of similarly captured credentials.
  
  Microsoft trawls the dark web for these lists (I don’t know how they do this) looking for a match. If they see one you’ll get this message, essentially warning you that your credentials have been compromised.
  
  When you changed your password, did you create a 100% unique one? If yes, then I can’t explain your still getting that warning.
  
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  March 23, 2022 6:04pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Cheers KrazyKiwi. I think you’ve correctly identified what happened – I used a password for “online” things that were unrelated to “important” things like internet banking or dealings with government departments. Trade Me was another one that popped up as an internet security risk. I’ve just changed my Kiwiblog password to something more random, so hopefully that resolves the issue.
    
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    March 23, 2022 7:59pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Funnily enuff, my partner received an email this morning from a .org.uk address, telling him they had complete access to his account.
  And that unless he paid them USD2000 in Bitcoin, they were going to….. ‘send videos to his private and business contacts of him wanking while watching porn-sites’.
  
  Should he report this to Netsafe, or change his password?
  
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  March 23, 2022 7:12pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    This could make for an awkward pillow-talk conversation with your partner, but you could try asking him 3 questions:
    1. Do you have a webcam connected to your PC?
    2. If yes to 1, have you visited porn-sites?
    3. If yes to 1 and 2, have you had the webcam turned on while visiting porn-sites?
    
    Good luck!
    
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    March 23, 2022 8:02pm
graham

Well, One News have officially jumped the shark this time.

Reporting on the flooding in the Gisborne region … except the problem is, you wouldn’t actually know that’s where it was. Because from beginning to end, the reporters didn’t mention the name Gisborne. Not once. Simon Dallow introduced the item by talking about Tairawhiti, and the reporter used the term Tairawhiti the whole time. Only once was the name Gisborne used, and that was by someone who was interviewed.

In a country that we are constantly told is so multi-cultural and diverse and where we must embrace that diversity, this is just silly. Worse than that, I would argue it’s actually quite irresponsible to do this in one of the primary news programmes. Consider immigrants who probably speak their own language and have English as a second language. For them, trying to decipher the news and work out just where these places are must be horribly confusing, if not impossible.

The news has a responsibility, surely, to communicate important and vital information to EVERYBODY clearly and without ambiguity. For them to refuse to use the common place-name for a region when reporting such important news is flat out irresponsible.
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March 23, 2022 7:53pm
Mike

Hi Nostradamus
I haven’t seen a comment from the Kiwiblog archivist for a while.
How does the 2022 Kiwiblog stack up after nearly 2 years of moderation?
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March 23, 2022 8:22pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Hey there, Mike – long time, no see. I’ve been observing Kiwiblog from a distance. It looks a bit different, with some new names popping up, but from what I can see it’s generally working well. It’s nice to see the names of people who have been hanging out here for years. You went quiet for a while, so I hope everything has been ok.
  
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