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Warren

While there is concern that energy prices will follow the increases in petrol, food housing materials and many other things, the Government is standing by its “no evictions ” Policy for misbehaving tenants that are now being blamed for a explosion in unpaid Kianga Ora rents- and cash strapped taxpayers are footing the $9 million bill.
Then to top all this off the Herald have decided to give the Mongrel Mob who has been accused of threatening neighbors a chance to tell his side of the story after Kainga Oro decided to house him and his family elsewhere.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-offers-to-relocate-mongrel-mob-gang-member-after-herald-story-about-terrified-auckland-neighbours/57GNGZRAEWZUDIE3S2BPNAIUYM/
When will this madness stop , we have a Cabinet Caucus out of control with a kind and caring policy that encourages criminals to game the system.
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March 10, 2022 8:00am
- kevn
  
  @Warren… Pop the mobster in a nice container somewhere away from people.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:31am
  - Colville
    
    a nice single bunk “container” in Pare’ would be appropriate.
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:42am
  - David Garrett
    
    preferably a container six feet long and six feet underground…
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:34am
- G152
  
  Plenty of room in prisons for such tennants
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:31am
- Dougal10
  
  The thing that will interest me , if a follow up story is done did he get his beach house he wished for.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:41am
- lastmanstanding
  
  It appears that Russia are about to default on debt repayment. Their credit rating has been reset to Junk Status.
  One is contemplating on what their debtors might do to recover. Do they rock up to the Kremlin with the Bailiff and demand Vlad pays up or hands over assets to the value of the debt.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:15am
  - Nickc2
    
    No doubt the Bean Counters in our Treasury and the Reserve Bank are watching with interest to see what happens when countries default on debt repayment.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:27am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      NZ will default just before Labour loses the Election and leave National a pile of shit to deal with.
      Remember Clark and Cullen?
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:18pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Yes, a massive Black Hole. This time though to their credit, they’ll leave an even bigger one.
        Why does each successive Labour Govt go out of its way to outdo their previous one?
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:22pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Nick. Outdo? Of course they do! We [deleted] NZ much better than last time
        
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        March 10, 2022 5:52pm
- Inandout
  
  this ‘cuddle a crim’ stance is also in full play under Biden who happily allows shoplifting up to $US 999 with [out] any legal recourse. In one crazy Dem State a father of a small child found that a pedo in a child care facility had sexually assaulted the kid 100 times and like many fathers would do, stabbed the pedo. The madness continues as the father is now in prison while the pedo (who has been bailed countless times before) walks free. Fortunately the US, with State powers, can change their attitude to crims overnight; NZ limps along until the next election.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:45am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    The world eventually will have to Balkanise into loony-left experimental “utopia” zones and common sense zones. In NZ I suggest the Nth Island be the loony-left experimental “utopia” zone. Each will be responsible for their own funding. This will sort things out reasonably quickly.
    
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    March 10, 2022 6:40pm
- graham
  
  Sigh.
  
  I’m one of those people who wants to believe the best of people, and tries to look for the good in them.
  
  But this guy:
  
  – is a Mongrel Mob member (yes, you will be judged based on who you hand out with, why on earth should you think otherwise?)
  
  – has been in jail after spitting on police officers during the Covid-19 pandemic
  
  – asked not to be named as he and his partner were trying to get their children back from a placement with extended family (err, why have the children been “placed” with extended family?)
  
  – his partner’s partner (I think) was in jail
  
  C’mon NZ Herald …
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:30am
- Jim
  
  The hypocrisy of the politicians and media is quite incredulous, having vilified attendees of the anti mandate protest (yes the behaviour of a minority was appalling, but so was some of the political (hello Ducky) and police actions).
  
  It appears to many good citizens that all forms of antisocial behaviour are on the increase across NZ, where people don’t feel same walking in either Courtenay Place or Queen Street at night anymore. Yet our weak kneed politicians fail to act, whilst the problem only gets worse.
  
  NZ seriously needs 3 or 4 societal rehabilitation encampments (like a military camp but affording a safe family environment) to safely house such people providing structure and incentivised rehabilitation programme delivered by professional social and educational services. Such half way house encampments would minimise societal harm and use of the prison service.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:43pm
  - Batman
    
    The Chinese Communist Party thanks you for the endorsement of its re-education centres.
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:57pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      Innocent law-abiding people are being terrorised in their own homes by violent criminal scum and THAT’S your contribution.
      
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      March 10, 2022 2:35pm
      - Jim
        
        Beat me to it. I wager some people (like Batman) have no idea what it would be like to face personal threats and intimidation like the victims describe, let alone a relentless threat to you and your children at your family home. Even worse when you feel powerless as the police and authorities don’t intervene to keep you safe.
        Even someone facing a brief malicious altercation in a public car park would likely be shaken up and change their behaviour for a significant amount of time.
        
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        March 10, 2022 5:55pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      That was a dumb comparison Batman. He’s suggesting rehabilitating people (yes forcibly if they are recidivist dropkicks) instead of just chucking them into the current poorly controlled prisons which deal random death and violence to inmates (not to mention training in many cases to become even worse scumbags). It appears you endorse (through ignorance) these brain-dead and failed “solutions” to crime.
      
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      March 10, 2022 5:38pm
    - Jim
      
      Shame on you Batman, I never referred to anything like the atrocious race and ideologically based CCP Uyghurs concentration camps.
      
      Fortunately we’re here in NZ talking about Kiwis with multiple complex reasons why they don’t understand (or choose not to comply) with our basic societal contract.
      I guess you might live in an area where you are not subject to such intimidating and anti social behaviour as described by the victims.
      
      In fact let’s hear your proposed solution, we’re all ears.
      
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      March 10, 2022 5:47pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

I know we joke & moan about the Govt’s $105m+ gift/ bribes to the media; but now that covid is all but done & dusted, surely they cannot expect a repeat. In which case, they must be staring into the abyss
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March 10, 2022 8:00am
- redeye
  
  Media will continue to be funded or bribed by this government. It will just be hidden in the form of advertising. For example look no further than the latest ad for a zero road toll. Apart from being completely nonsensical, it doesn’t seem to have any purpose other than to provide those running the ad with some revenue.
  They’ll all be running new 3 waters ads again very soon and no doubt they will need to run ads for the health restructure & the media restructure. And of course Kāinga Ora will keep using their large marketing budget to advertise for more tenants (sarc).
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:49am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There’s a new media monster being created… just in time for next year’s elections.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/rnz-tvnz-merger-details-emerge-ahead-of-official-announcement/PWNVTHHMOES3OF6V2X4UEOVFQI/
  
  You bet it will need a vast input of start-up $$$$$.
  
  It will also operate under different rules re political advertising, you betcha.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:50am
  - I remember when
    
    Yes any net profit will be extra money spent – no dividend.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:01am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    For the second time the Police have issued a public statement that they are not bringing charges against the Prime Ministers partner. One cant recall Police making such statements about Dame Thea Muldoon or Joan Bolger.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:22am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      It appears more like Newshub have recycled Mike Bush’s statement than police have issued a new one..
      Even the accompanying photo of the Prime Minister’s ex-fiancé is four years old.
      Newshub up to the minute again – not.
      
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      March 10, 2022 9:59am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      Smoke and mirrors.
      
      If there is nothing to see, why say anything.
      
      Cover up?
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:11am
    - David Garrett
      
      Nor indeed about any prime ministerial spouse/partner in living memory.
      
      Can you post a link to the latest police statement please.
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:36am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        At the end of this Newshub item
        
        Police have also responded to the rumours, releasing a statement to Newshub this week saying that while they don’t respond to queries asking if certain people are under investigation, “on this occasion we can say that Mr Gayford is not and has not been the subject of any police inquiry, nor has he been charged in relation to any matter”.
        
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/03/clarke-gayford-pokes-fun-at-court-appearance-rumours-as-police-deny-he-s-facing-charges.html
        
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        March 10, 2022 10:44am
      - oldfella
        
        Dear Commissioner Coster
        I’m comforted to read the police statement regarding the Prime Minister’s fiancé.
        It’s a terrible thing for an innocent man to face such scurrilous accusations.
        Your actions in this matter can only reinforce the communities confidence in the NZ Police.
        (signed)
        Arthur Allan Thomas
        
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        March 10, 2022 11:04am
      - David Garrett
        
        I’m prepared to bet she knows absolutely nothing about the international oil business…and of course why would she want to? It’s evil, dirty, and causes climate change.
        
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        March 10, 2022 11:08am
      - lastmanstanding
        
        DG From the Northern Advocate
        
        Gayford rumour untrue
        A rumour Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s fiance Clarke Gayford appeared in the Whangārei District Court has been debunked. While police, in general, do not confirm whether an individual is under police investigation a spokesperson said on this occasion, however, they can say Gayford “is not and has not been the subject of any police inquiry nor has he been charged in relation to any matter”.
        
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        March 10, 2022 11:08am
  - oldfella
    
    can’t wait for the name of the new organisation to be released.
    Maybe something like Aotearoa Broadcasting Corporation? (You can bet New Zealand won’t feature in the name.) /s
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:12am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    And it will have a 50/50 co-governance structure
    
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    March 10, 2022 5:29pm
- graham
  
  I remember reading some months ago one of the recipients bemoaning that when it ended it might just mean job losses for some journalists, and how terrible, how awful that would be.
  
  Because apparently journalists should have guaranteed jobs for life, and be immune from the possibility of redundancy – you know, like every other employee in New Zealand.
  
  Shakes head …
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:04am
  - oldfella
    
    talking of terrible things that have happened to NZ journalists…
    Where’s Tova at the moment. Tending bar? Learning to code?
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:05am
    - Nickc2
      
      Who cares? Not me!
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:42am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Simple you manufacture another crisis.
  
  Keep the fear porn running have the sheeple living in fear forever.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:06am
- Prince
  
  The ‘incentive’ to publish stories that align with Labour policies is not related to Covid.
  And the media aren’t going to let it go without a fight.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:16am
- Nickc2
  
  Well, not really. They’re amalgamating TVNZ and Radio NZ into one massive publically owned Propaganda Ministry. I kid you not! Chris Faafoi announced it yesterday but the MSM is playing it pretty much low-key.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:31am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How long before the media do not report the news, but have political propaganda 24/7?Remember Max Headroom?
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:24pm
- Paulus
  
  Its is going to help when TVNZ and RNZ merge as it cuts to another single source of propaganda.
  Hear there is much personal mud slinging (in Maori) going on for a while about who gets what jobs.
  Remember Claire Curren who was dumped for being caught out compromising it.
  Assume she will be brought back to set it up.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:33pm
mikenmildagain

How good has the world cup been so far?
Hosts NZ upset in a very close first game and then fortunate not have their must-win second match rained off. Champions England lose their first match against favourites Australia and then lose their second as well, in another nail-biter to the West Indies, who had tipped up NZ in the first match.
So much great cricket still to come.
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March 10, 2022 8:00am
- wilderbeast
  
  Nice to see the standard of women’s cricket improving, but it has a long way to go until it is a top quality product.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:33am
  - big bruv
    
    It has improved?….in what areas?
    The little I see of it is appalling, the level is not anywhere near that of a middle-ranked boy’s 1st XI.
    It’s rubbish and only being shown on TV because SKY is no doubt receiving a rather nice ICC subsidy to televise it. It sure as hell isn’t being broadcast because of its huge domestic demand.
    
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    March 10, 2022 3:05pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I was introduced to cricket when I arrived here and quite enjoy it. Been to a few games.
  
  I have tried to watch womens cricket and to enjoy it. But sadly, it does not work. It is like everything is in slow motion.
  
  So no thanks.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:33am
  - plc
    
    Perhaps if we pay them more
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:38am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      Pull bigger crowds…get bigger money.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:39am
  - Cinematic
    
    I’ve been impressed by some of the slogging but the bowling is pitiful. Agree that everything is slow motion.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:42am
  - Morry45
    
    Agreed. It has its moments, but it’s more like watching B grade club cricket on a Saturday afternoon.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:46am
- Gravelroad
  
  I’ve been watching it.
  Grew up in a cricket playing family so have listened and watched for many years.
  These women can play cricket. In yesterday’s match, a West Indies player pulled off a stunner of a catch that Martin Guptill would be proud of.
  But, hey, this is KB. Not many women on here.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:57am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Just trying to keep it real. A non-stop diet of amateur epidemiologists now turned into amateur generals can be a trifle hard on the digestion.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:12am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      For amateurs they seem to know a lot more about the subject than Ardern’s experts.
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:43pm
  - pdm
    
    I have been following New Zealand cricket since 1958 but, not a `whole game’watcher of womens cricket despite New Zealand producing a number of world class players.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:15am
  - Ford Prefect
    
    That catch was superb.
    
    But you can counter that with all the absolute ‘dollys’ that were dropped by both sides. If this is their job, they should be able to catch the most basic of chances.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:28am
  - Biscuit
    
    Hmm, Gravelroad…
    
    I’m a non-sexist blogger.
    
    I can think of at least a couple of female Kiwibloggers whose comments – possibly not on Cricket, I’ll grant you – are eminently readable!
    
    And the joy of noms-de-blog is that you can’t be sure of the gender of almost ANY Kiwiblogger.
    
    :: Checks ::
    :: Smiles ::
    :: Confirms to room that this Biscuit is 101% male ::
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:58am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Pleased that you re enjoying it mike. Personally, having played a fair bit, I find it dull as dishwater. Small boundaries, small ball, military medium bowlers. It doesn’t matter how much national cricket bodies talk it up, I reckon it’s just awful.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:12am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    To be fair, Sophie Devine has played some cracking cricket shots.
    
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    March 10, 2022 6:51pm
- Prince
  
  The cricket has been good – pity about the crowds. Some 4,000 expected at the Basin on Sunday.
  Overall, it looks very much like another tournament where the world turns up, some good games, and Australia wins.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:19am
  - andydownhere
    
    How can 4000 be allowed into the Basin, which holds 15000? but only 800 are allowed into the caketin to watch the mens rugby, which holds 30 000, because of Omnicron?
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:48pm
- Trev
  
  I’d much rather watch men’s cricket. Good that you have the time and inclination to watch women’s cricket.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:29am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I like all cricket. I’ve just found that the increased profile of the women’s game in the past few years has given me even more cricket to enjoy.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:54am
    - MCōs
      
      The other day Pakistan & Australia men played out a stupefyingly dull test match.
      
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      March 10, 2022 12:52pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Talk to the groundsman on that one
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:19pm
- oldfella
  
  I really do appreciate your sense of humour. Great cricket? You are such a funny guy.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:15am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I’m looking forward to the White Ferns playing India this afternoon and evening. It should be a cracking match, then it’s New Zealand versus Australia at the Basin Reserve on Sunday!
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:18pm
- Phronesis
  
  It would be more interesting if they let a few school under 16 teams into the tournament. That might settle a few debates.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:01pm
  - Mike
    
    What debates?
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:26pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How cricket looks for most people.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrue4oXCbo
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:32pm
plc

“Adding to the pressure, the United States has banned Russian oil imports in response to the Ukraine invasion, prompting President Joe Biden to warn that gas prices are likely to rise.

“We import from Singapore, South Korea and Japan and we haven’t imported from Russia since January 2021, so it’s not something relevant to New Zealand,” Ardern said on Wednesday.”

FACEPALM
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March 10, 2022 8:03am
- kevn
  
  @plc… Who knew that Singapore, South Korea and Japan were oil producers.
  Or are they processors? Of Russian oil.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:33am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is depressing how dumb she is.
    
    New Zealand imports refined product from Japan.
    
    Japan is going to continue to import Russian oil.
    
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-sticks-to-russian-oil-and-gas-bucking-western-pullouts-11646392575
    
    Therefore New Zealand imports petroleum refined from Russian oil.
    
    Refude that Jacinda.
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:37am
    - oldfella
      
      some US gas hike humour. Funny.
      https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/03/mid-week-in-pictures-gas-pains-edition.php
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:32am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  As soon as I read that this morning, several thoughts cropped up:
  
  Whoever wrote that line has never left NZ
  
  The fact that she spouted it with not so much as a blush tells me all I need to know about her general state of world knowledge
  
  And then I had this picture of flying in to Changi passing over all those ships except now they were drilling rigs.
  
  I get that there are people who dont know much, or whose view is less…worldly…but does she have to be our PM? Really?
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:53am
- RoboRob
  
  Who would have thought she could get any more stupid. Even if those countries did produce oil it would still impact us. Doubly wrong, wrongy mc wrong face.
  
  I stand by my call that ALL politicians should take a mandatory economics 101 course when they enter parliament. Economics touches on every aspect of life and when fools are making decisions without undertsanding basics like supply and demand the country suffers.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:59am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Taking even a general intelligence test would be good. A lot would fail.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:41am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Heh Cindy. That was a really good idea to ban oil and gas exploration. Especially when Labour and Greens profess to stand for the poor. Guess what. Increased fuel prices at $4 litre will hit the poor ( your self declared constitutents ) more than it will the rich pricks.
  
  Just another example of your flapping your gums on matters you know nothing about.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:36am
  - Cinematic
    
    It’s ok because…wind farms.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:45am
    - oldfella
      
      Yeah, Cinematic, we don’t need your stinking oil. We have sun and wind. /s
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:34am
      - Ehlana
        
        And a lake that will be a battery.
        
        The lake is in the South Island. The demand is in the North Island. There’s a cable between the two to move the electricity around.
        
        Wellington is overdue for a big earthquake and the biggest power user, Auckland, lies on the other side of the Pacific ring of fire, where the volcanoes are.
        
        Which recent event makes you think there might be a flaw in this plan?
        
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        March 10, 2022 4:15pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Still the so called poor will vote for Labour believing it is all due to nine long years of neglect by National. Nobody can defeat Cindy. I have given up hope long back.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:49am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Not so sure SCS.
      Met up with friend this week.
      Regular Labour voter.
      Reckons they are going to give that Mr Luxon a go next time.
      Why?
      Nothing been done by Labour re poverdy and homelessness as promised.
      I said Ms Ardern will spin that as couldn’t be done cause covid.
      Friend said not good enough.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:23am
      - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
        
        Oh Gravelroad – That is great coming from a Labour voter. May be he is educated and as per my master’s definition “a rich prick”. But I am talking about South Auckland.
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:00pm
  - David Garrett
    
    I’m prepared to bet she knows absolutely nothing about the international oil business…and of course why would she want to? It’s evil, dirty, and causes climate change.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:53am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      DG – I am eagerly waiting for one of your scientific super market queue opinion polls……
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:01pm
- David Garrett
  
  Jesus….I wouldn’t mind betting she has no idea that Japan has no oil which indirectly led to Japan attacking the US in 1941 after the US banned oil exports to the Japs (as they then were).
  
  I guess basic WW II history wasn’t part of her degree in “communications”…
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:48am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, we are only importing refined product for storage.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:25am
    - Paulus
      
      Last oil shipment arrived in Marsden Port last Monday.
      In future all refined at others pleasure, and shipment.
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:47pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Yes, the refinery closes on 1st April; a rather cruel April Fool’s joke, which with the current fuel prices, no one finds funny.
        
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        March 10, 2022 2:39pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Nor the “journalists” who should be asking relevant question, nor the “opposition” who again should be asking relevant questions.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:25am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yes, Japan Drilling Company to operate as “Operators” however,
    The common denominator why Korea, Singapore and Japan have Refineries is because they have NO oil/Gas and guess what? They have to refine themselves for Well , Energy security.
    Russian Oil/Gas will definately be refined at one of these.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:34am
    - Nickc2
      
      Possibly imported by all of them. When you’re in the business of producing stuff, who gives a fuck where the raw product comes from so long as the quality is consistently as expected?
      Politicians have consciences (albeit for a very short time and often for dubious reasons).
      Businesses on the other hand are profits motivated else they go broke.
      Politicians don’t care what sort of mess they leave behind for others to clean up.
      
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      March 10, 2022 2:12pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  The world oil market is entirely interconnected, Jacinda, in the same way that the cooling system is interconnected in your car. It doesn’t matter whether it’s the radiator or the pipes that spring a leak, the car will overheat just the same.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:24pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Thick as two short planks
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:47pm
  - Nickc2
    
    with apologies to planks!
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:03pm
artemisia

More bad news for taxpayers from Kainga Ora. Herald, paywalled, the key point is in the below quote.

Nearly $9 million in unpaid rent from social housing tenants. Interesting OIA response from KO, sounds like weapons grade deflection. 200,000 customers in 75,000 public homes, 64,000 of which are KO homes. Hmmm. 2.4% of total rent paid each year. No problem Then, apart from the problem for taxpayers. And the vast majority of tenants who look with envy on the cheap rent paid by those that won that lottery.

Most of the agency’s 200,000 customers were good tenants who paid their rent on time. The $8.8m currently owned made up only 2.4 per cent of the total amount paid in rent each year

Meantime neighbours getting on the front page has led to a tenant being moved urgently. That worked.
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March 10, 2022 8:07am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Interestingly, unpaid rents have increased at around the same rate (1200%) as the daily spend on motels for the homeless since Labour took office. Not only are they paying shitloads out ($1.1million per day, at last count), but they’re not collecting the outstanding dosh. Yet KO still seems to have enough cash to outbid first home buyers on the open market. Funny that…
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:30am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    I absolutely refude that – Cindy, the Queen of NZ.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:50am
- I remember when
  
  Kainga Ora’s scoial housing tenants owe $8.8m in unpaid rent.
  So the questions are –
  Is the $8.8m the total or have any amounts already been written off.
  Have the tenants received any emergency payments to cover their rents.
  Not to worry its all taxpayer money.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:55am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    How long does the rent have to be owed before it’s classified as ’unpaid’? I’d wager it’s probably 90+ days before it comes to the attention of the credit controller, which means it’s likely $8.8m is just the tip of the iceberg.
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:27pm
- Prince
  
  Given this is Kainga Ora, Labour Party’s other Head Office, I wouldn’t believe one word.
  Their Chief Exec encourages staff to lie and obfuscate.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:23am
- lastmanstanding
  
  And the debt was $750K back in 2017. KO blaming it all on Covid. Pardon. Most of the tenants are on benefits so received the same income during Covid.
  
  Lying Bastards.
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:12am
  - kowtow
    
    A govt agency dealing in misinformation / disinformation ……..noooooooo!
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:07pm
Simon

Who from the West to send in to negotiate with Putin?

Dan Andrews: Look Putin you have 2 days to get vaccinated. You are putting all of us in danger. Listen up good Putin if you are not vaccinated then you can kiss that construction job goodbye.

Jacinda Ardern: I want to spend time sharing my feelings. You make me feel sad President Putin. In particular your actions have undermined my efforts to end child poverty.

Biden: God damn you to hell Brezhnv! You have 3 days to get out of Baghdad and never return.

Donald Trump; Golf courses Vlad! Luxury hotels, casinos, resorts and tourism all up and down the Volga. It’s gonna be amazing!

Nanaia Mauta: Ok Mr. Putin there is the bear and then the taniwha. It’s like a partnership. With me so far? And if the bear were to give a little bit of honey to the taniwha.

Kamala Harris: Its time President Putin, time to hear me, a coloured woman, speak. Hear me speak, its time, my time. Tee hee hee hee. (a cringe dance commences)

Hillary Clinton: Look I will give you everything you want. Just accept our MSM declare I have won. I will also arrange a sizeable payment to Russia ostensibly to help get Ukraine up and running. For all this I am going to need a 25% kickback. Bill’s people will sort out the details.

Greta: Its an emergency. (angry frown at Putin for 10 minutes, without blinking)

Luxon: ………… Sorry don’t have a clue. Waiting for someone to interpret the polling data. Did you know I used to work at Unilever?

Boris Johnson; President Putin do not doubt Britian’s resolve. Once our resolve is cleared with various international bodies. And let’s be honest who knows how long that going to take. It’s all a curious business to be frank.
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March 10, 2022 8:08am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I think a delegation of respected former leaders would do the trick. Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Nicolas Sarkozy, David Cameron, Angela Merkel, Tony Abbott and John Key should work well.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:09am
  - Nickc2
    
    You can strike out Obama and Merkel and it may work?
    
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    March 10, 2022 5:02pm
- mogg
  
  Or Biden’s latest gem of wisdom; “Putin is attacking Russia”
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:19am
  - virtualmark
    
    Well he’s right. In a two week lightning strike the Russian army has managed to destroy the military, the economy, the political standing, and the reputation … of Russia.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Well done
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:53pm
Warren

Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister keeps living in Fantasy land while fuel prices increase with petrol expected to hit $4.00
a litre as world sqeezes Putin with sanctions.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/ukraine-invasion-fuel-expert-warns-petrol-could-hit-4-a-litre-as-world-squeezes-russian-president-vladimir-putin-with-sanctions.html
Obviously Jacinda thinks it will save all those Woman and Children that were killed in a housing complex that Putin and his henchmen bombed earlier yesterday.
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March 10, 2022 8:09am
- westernScientest
  
  no she doesn’t care about children, she hopes it will save her future job prospects at the UN
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:52am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda cares about votes, and will do anything (even bullshitting and censoring) to get them
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:55pm
- RoboRob
  
  Stopping that oil exploration in NZ and shutting down Marsden Point still seem like a good idea JA?
  
  To stupid to realise that we still use the same amount of fuel, oil, gas and coal regardless of where it is mined. Green idiots.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:03am
  - David Garrett
    
    To be fair shutting down Marsden Point was a commercial decision from the oil companies which own it.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:12am
    - RoboRob
      
      Yes, but that decision was heavily impacted on by the amount of oil being produced in NZ. Why on earth would a commercial organisation spend money to upgrade Marsden point when the qty of gas / oil mined in NZ is headed towards zero.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:20am
      - David Garrett
        
        Robo: Again, no. I stand to be corrected but I dont believe NZ crude was ever refined at Marsden…too waxy I think. IIRC it always went to Singapore to be refined.
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:34pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Nope. Marsden Pt never processed NZ oil (wrong grade). We sent our crude to Singapore & got refined stuff back. I guess we could have retooled Marsden Pt to fit NZ crude but if it was commercial to do so, the oil companies would have done so long before the captain’s call.
        
        The bigger concern in my view is that while NZ had mandated (IIRC) a 90 day supply, most of that can be located offshore, or loaded on a tanker bound for NZ. Which is a fantastic example of something dreamed up by an academic or a politician that will work well almost all of the time, except when you really need it. I mean, what exactly are we going to do when that tanker is diverted to another port?
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:34pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      And should of never been sold.
      It was set up as a Strategic asset for NZ.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:36am
      - Nickc2
        
        Agree. I’ve been saying this for yonks but it all seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
        Ask Cindy or her idiot Transport Minister how we’re going to know we’re not importing refined Russian petroleum products.
        
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        March 10, 2022 11:58am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        People in the oil industry are not the people in Govt.
        Do what we say or else!
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:58pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Hmm, I think the oil companies only own around 35-40% of NZ Refining from memory, and it’s Mobil, Z and BP. Listed on the NZX, so a decent chunk is in the hands of ACC and other shareholders. But yep, it was entirely a commercial decision which was influenced by Government policy and the Governments view on the importance of the asset.
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:21pm
      - Nickc2
        
        This needs wider distribution than just KB!
        
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        March 11, 2022 6:34am
- Weetbix3ways
  
  It’s going to go to $5 in the not too distant future. European war, insane energy policies, and rampant stupidity will see to it.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:08am
  - David Garrett
    
    Indeed…and the thing is because she banned offshore exploration, she could re-open it tomorrow with the most generous tax breaks for explorers in the world…and no oil company would take up a block. Loss of confidence for an oil explorer is like virginity: once it’s gone it’s gone, and can NEVER be restored. Oil companies’ logic is very simple: if a country unilaterally changed the rules once, they can do it again.
    
    Thankfully we still have some onshore exploration, and what were sub-commercial gas fields here and there which can become commercial when and if the price is right. Of course the price being “right” for an oil and gas company means it’s risen – perhaps considerably – and that is bad news for the hapless consumer.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:17am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Well said David.
      Incidently OMV have just doubled the output of Gas in NZ through the last drilling campaign.
      Still in progress.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:38am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Yep David, it’s a lose|lose for NZ. No sane company will risk 100’s of millions again, and we will now have to import more refined fuel, at prices driven by the big oil companies. But hey, it was a captains call. Has a Prime Minister ever got so many things wrong in NZ’s history?
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:24pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Agree! We will be compelled to import Oil from companies (forget countries) whose wealth is far greater than NZs.
        Who’s going to be holding all the Trump Cards (as in card games) then you Marxist idiots that call yourselves a Govt?
        
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        March 10, 2022 2:01pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Correct, DG. There are fantastic prospects in emerging oil fields off Guyana & Suriname; also Angola & West Africa; plus gas fields in the Eastern Med. not to mention continuing expansion in offshore Brazil, the Gulf of Mexico ….
      
      NZ is too far away, too small a prospect & thanks to Jacinda, has elevated sovereign risk.
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:39pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Just don’t tell Jaspinda about the onshore exploration. She will kill it for good – even if it is a huge money maker. Goes against the grain to admit anything positive for NZ
      
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      March 10, 2022 2:02pm
- Brian McDonald
  
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  What’s your answer to rising fuel prices Warren?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:08am
  - graham
    
    She could lower the excise tax, for starters.
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/02/fuel-prices-no-plan-to-lower-excise-tax-despite-3-pain-at-pump.html
    
    Or remove GST on the excise tax (“Tax-on-a-tax”).
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:28am
  - Prince
    
    Reduce fuel levies temporarily. Use the reserves built up since repaying debt incurred by Labour in the 2000’s. That’s why we save in the good times.
    
    Oh, $140B debt now ? We’re stuffed.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:31am
  - RightNow
    
    I don’t know about Warren but I’m thinking of buying a Tesla, it’s only $60K AND the government flicks me over $8k in cash too.
    
    What’s your answer Brian?
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:33am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Could think of a few things longer term. I doubt the Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand would be happy though
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:34am
  - rangitoto
    
    Drill.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:43am
    - David Garrett
      
      Unfortunately it’s not that simple: see my comment above. The offshore oil industry in NZ is dead as the proverbial dodo, and nothing can ever bring it back.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:18am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Reduce Government taxes on fuel? It’s currently about 50% so there’s definitely room for it to come down.
    
    It’s not difficult Brian. A 25% reduction in the cost of fuel for consumers is a pretty easy target to hit if you aim at the Government taxes. You’d have to be pretty incompetent to miss that target.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The NZ Queen could resign and let the adults take over Brain
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:08pm
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Thanks for letting us know what Jacinda thinks. A remarkable talent you’ve got there.
  What’s your answer to the rising fuel prices?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:39am
  - Nickc2
    
    I believe Cindy’s already covered that by her $25.00 per week increase for beneficiaries as of 1 April 2022.
    Another media release reveals the IRD only intends to tax the first $26.00 per week of that increase.
    Win-Win all around eh. What a caring and responsible PM we have eh. //
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:19am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Drill for oil _ we have plenty. Keep the refinery going? See Brian, thinking isn’t that hard, you should try it sometime.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:31am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I don’t think Greater NZ -Zealandia does have lots of oil lurking in the depths somewhere… We are just Geologically too young ….. but hydrocarbons in the form of gas is a different story
      
      (yes, yes, I know of our oil exploration history)
      https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Learning/Science-Topics/Fossil-Energy/New-Zealand-s-Sedimentary-Basins
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:42pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Your dumb PM can suspend all fuel taxes and GST on fuel for 3 months to give some relief for the struggling battlers who voted her in by mistake. Will she be able to do it? She is so dumb, she can’t even tell what the current GST rate is.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:58am
  - grumpy
    
    Get a new PM
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:18am
  - Yabster
    
    Cindy says – lets not drill for our own oil and gas- duh nah lets just import it from Japan (duh that will teach Vlad duh- oh Japan Import oil from Russia? -Media make sure you don’t report that or else) -oh an lets stop coal production duh- we have so much but I must follow the email that Klaus sent me duh- oh we are short of coal for Huntly?- duh -ok lets import coal from Indonesia- sorted Signed your dumbness Cindykins- got your vote I hope Bri (we will also reduce silly things like Murder sentences)- def got your vote know huh duhhhhhhh
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:18am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You got a few answers there … [Deleted https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy : Personal Details. You’ve been warned. mod].
    Labour needs money – shitloads of it. so it don’t grow on trees, they will steal it from you, even if you get superannuation.
    Labour don’t give a fuck as long as the dickheads vote for the promises they never get
    
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    March 10, 2022 5:59pm
dave_c_

“Why do ‘Covid commentators’ receive advance briefings on government work?”

Corruption and the cementing of un-truths into the conversations

Also advance instruction (no doubt) how question time should be conducted at the podium of truth
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March 10, 2022 8:11am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  “conversations” yet another word being repurposed by woke propagandists to now mean what rhetoric, dogma and dictat used to when they pretend that there is some element of compromise or consensus building involved in their decrees.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:54am
iMP

Someone is selling used rats online. Presumably R.A.T.s?
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March 10, 2022 8:12am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Money to be made no doubt. Beware of false ~~prophets~~ profits.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:15am
- peterwn
  
  Years ago there was a bounty to control rats. You got cash for each rat tail produced. Some enterprising kids bred rats to collect the bounty.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:26am
- cmm
  
  Unintended consequences. All government policies have them.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:24am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Only because Socialism Hasn’t Been Done Right Yet™
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:36am
I remember when

Great News:
After Saturday, if you get Omicron, you will be infectious for three less days than if you get it today.
If you are self-isolating why in the hell are we waiting until Saturday.
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March 10, 2022 8:12am
- RoboRob
  
  Why not follow most of the rest of the world on this, if you have covid you can go back to work after two clear tests. Its not rocket science.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Remember when that DJ arrived in NZ and left MIQ after 12 days isolation… then tested positive for Omicron and all the Experts rushed out telling us that the virus must have been incubating in him for 14 days?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300487986/covid19-dj-dimension-devastated-after-testing-positive-for-omicron-in-nz
  
  And Siouxsie warned us against only isolating for 7 days with the dreaded Omicron
  
  University of Auckland associate professor Siouxsie Wiles said New Zealanders needed to be prepared for Omicron.
  
  “It’s just really important that we don’t think that seven days is okay and that people are still cautious … After receiving several negative tests, people could still be incubating the virus and that’s what it shows us.”
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/12/covid-19-siouxsie-wiles-urges-vigilance-as-omicron-incubation-can-be-longer.html
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:12am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Yep, as I posted at the time, that was a flat out lie by Wiles. Presumably to deflect culpability from leaky MIQ. Anyone following the actual pandemic science already knew that Omicron had a shorter incubation period.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:24am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep,
      It wouldn’t have been so easily transmissible if it had a long incubation period.
      
      Omicron wouldn’t have overwhelmed Delta so rapidly if it had a long incubation period.
      
      You don’t need a PhD to figure that out.
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:36pm
  - Nickc2
    
    The venomous snake that is the NZ Govt is so low to the ground, it trips over its own feet.
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:29pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lol remember, I’m tested positive and am isolating and thought I had a get out of jail card 3 days early!
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:15am
- cmm
  
  Coz although it’s a sneaky virus it still listens to Cindy.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:25am
  - Rusty
    
    cmm — what Cindy means, is that omicron is a very racialist virus.
    
    This virus hates Nzers (Maori and Pakeha) more than any other race in the world.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:48am
  - oldfella
    
    the Daily Mail continues to skewer Glorious Leader.
    Kiwis turn on ‘out of touch’ Jacinda Ardern as they struggle to make ends meet: ‘New Zealand is in a mega crisis and Jacinda has no empathy left’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10592747/Kiwis-turn-New-Zealand-Prime-Minister-Jacinda-Ardern-struggle-make-ends-meet.html
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:13am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      From running on empathy to running on empty.
      
      There’s a song there, somewhere.
      
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      March 10, 2022 1:42pm
- Mr_Blobby
  
  The week after 5 days then 3 days then back to 14 days.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:27am
- Matt Long
  
  These are all Government measures intended to “steepen the curve.” While initially it was government policy to “give Delta a chance” and make it difficult for Omicron to outcompete the more indigenous Delta varient it has become obvious that Omicron is now the dominant strain.
  Omicron obviously doesn’t lend itself so well to supporting government fear and control policies as Delta so it is important to steepern the curve of infections and try to overwhelm health and food services to keep control of the narrative.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:46am
  - septic skeptic
    
    That just doesn’t stack up.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:25am
Benedict Yu

You really have to wonder when the money is going to run out.

We now have another 250 million dollars to effectively bribe airlines to continue to fly to New Zealand to keep freight going.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/128009235/government-adds-another-250-million-to-help-keep-planes-flying-to-nz
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March 10, 2022 8:13am
- rouppe
  
  Also got to wonder why we would pay other airlines to do it when we have NZ planes sitting in the desert, and nz pilots on furlough
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:15am
  - peterwn
    
    Other airlines have to be allowed to fly to NZ. The Government cannot ban other airlines from NZ otherwise other countries will ban Air NZ from their airports. These other airlines also have planes stored in the desert.
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:49am
  - Weetbix3ways
    
    That would require real thought and planning.
    Why do that when you can just throw money at the problem?
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:10am
  - oldfella
    
    maybe ask Chris Luxon to explain it.
    I think he had something to do with the airline industry at some stage. Cabin crew?
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:26am
    - peterwn
      
      Chris can explain it better than I did above. Chris would know a wee bit more about airline operation than Rouppe. This would particularly include negotiating bilateral and international agreements concerning airline operation. And he has diverse marketing skills ranging from marketing OMO to marketing airline seats.
      
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      March 10, 2022 2:26pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Not for a long while.
  NZ’s debt to GDP ratio is still very favourable at around 45% when compared to countries like Australia (57%), the UK (100%) or the US (133%).
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:23am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Kind of like saying that a shit sandwich is not as bad as a shit sandwich with flies crawling all over it.
    Relative or not, it doesn’t make it sound like a good thing, when the menu was more palatable not long ago.
    Debt has increased massively in a short amount of time (up from 2017 by $70billion from memory?), and there is certainly a lot of poor quality spending. Even money thrown on valid areas has no measurement or management applied to it.
    We need some new staff for the kitchen ASAP.
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:29pm
- Pavel
  
  This government throws around soo much money. 250mil here, 500mil there, a billion there. Where does it come from and where does it go? It has to be flowing to someone, somewhere. The non essential things it gets blown on too are amazing, whilst essential things like health, education, homelessness, child poverty all seem to go begging cap in hand. Maybe I’m getting old and and things have changed but everytime I see the government announce a spend up on something it seems like there’s always one or two more zeros than needed.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:23am
- Scott
  
  Benedict asks when will the money run out? According to the government the money is never running out because they are subsidising airlines until March 2023??
  
  Two things become apparent. This government believes they can spend money without restraint and it will all be good. Grant Robertson will just print another billion dollars every Tuesday and all will be fine.
  
  Secondly that Covid restrictions are going to last as long as possible. This government wants to keep up control and they want to take their Covid response into the next election.
  
  This country will never be prosperous under this government.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:33am
- Simon
  
  The money run out during 2020. They had to print $55 billion directly into the government bank accounts to duly piss away.
  
  Government issues bonds, the market buys the bonds, RBNZ buys the bonds off the market its a pure money print. The RBNZ doesnt have any money but they can press a key board.
  
  The RBNZ will attempt to sell the bonds in the market over the next 10 years. (if conditions are right) Which is the same as cancelling money. 10 years to drain what Labo pissed away in under 12 months.
  
  Now the result is 7% pa inflation.
  
  Large Scale Asset Purchase = Large Scale Money Print.
  
  Dont recall National objecting to LSAP??
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:39am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes this is is now in the 2 to 3 billion now.
  Paying foreign airlines to fly.
  If anything it should be shipping to asist getting goods to markets overseas.
  Why this has nt been scrutinised more I dont know.
  A container of seafood is more beneficial to NZ than a DHL parcel.
  Also a lot of goods that should of been shipped were I believe were flown highly subsidised.
  Like i say again. It is only good will with shippers coming down here and will continue to be so. Massive risk to an already shattered economy.
  The thing to watch is Russian crewed vessels and the larger container companies will be worried.
  Government announced a 30 million package for shipping.
  Where has that gone?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:43am
Maggy Wassilieff

Winston Peters on Our Prime minister’s deceptions

None of this information was released to the public before the last election which means the Prime Minister and her Party have no mandate for these changes, that their plan is illegitimate, and designed to ‘white and brown’ ant New Zealand’s democracy.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2203/S00065/prime-minister-in-on-the-three-waters-he-puapua-deception.htm
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March 10, 2022 8:14am
- Luke Piewalker
  
  @ Winston: you put Cindy into government and created this mess.
  
  I put 100% blame on you.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:34am
- krazykiwi
  
  He installed her.
  
  His lust for baubles is the reason we don’t have competent leadership.
  
  His arrogance is the reason we have a quasi-totalitarian, personality-cult PM
  
  Yet we’re surrounded by voters who say “Y’now what? Winston is making sense. Think I’ll give him my vote…”
  
  The facepalm that keeps on giving
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    He’s a despicable politician but he knows how the game is played. I don’t say that in admiration, simply observation.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:02am
  - BAM
    
    National doesn’t give a fuck about New Zealanders.
    
    When your party is called New Zealand First you’re hardly going to go with a party that’s about selling off NZ to overseas interests.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:04am
  - RoboRob
    
    Hmmm dont remember Winston putting up stopping oil exploration permits in NZ before the election either.
    
    Could he just f*@k off and retire now please. While Im at it the same applies to Helen Clarke [Clark].
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:07am
  - cmm
    
    You have to admit that he has the best nose for politics there is.
    
    He might be a complete scoundrel, but he knows he only has to find a 5% support base to get him into a kingmaker role.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:27am
    - kowtow
      
      The best nose for a nose bag .
      
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      March 10, 2022 9:30am
    - greybeard
      
      Agreed.
      He has found the perfect subject here with which to constantly assail the government and bring its deceptions to public attention.
      He will be back next year.
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:57am
    - David Garrett
      
      Quite…and it may surprise readers to know Rodney Hide thinks he is – or more accurately was – the best politician (in negative sense) in a generation or more.
      
      When he told me that, I asked him how then he was able to “get him” on lying to parliament over the $158k (IIRC) which he dishonestly received and never repaid. Rodney’s answer was that he never could have got him when he was at his prime…and that was over ten years ago; he is even more past his prime now, but is still a master manipulator of the sheeple.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:30am
      - cmm
        
        Yup, I think even though Winnie isn’t nearly as sharp/hungry/motivated as he was 15 years ago he still outclasses them all at being an excellent politician (excellent in the technical sense of the word).
        
        When you’re that far ahead you have to fall a long, long way before the others can start catching up.
        
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        March 10, 2022 12:14pm
  - Prince
    
    Further, he’ll go with her again. Utu runs deep.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:34am
    - cmm
      
      He’ll go with himself.
      
      I’d make a small wager that Bill English told him to take a ride on a fire truck.
      
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      March 10, 2022 12:15pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  ‘…using the bludgeon that their legislation will contain a provision that any changes will have to have the agreement of at least 75% of Parliament. ”
  I’m no constitutional lawyer but is this correct? Can a majority < 75% do this in our parliament. Can a future government with < 75% pass legislation that retrospectively nullifies such legislation?
  What on earth have our democratic processes come to that such can occur, maybe as matter of course?
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:22am
  - Nickc2
    
    This is all very interesting. Given that Luxon has stated 3 Waters will be rescinded, how does he propose to do that?
    
    * Is he going to piss off all iwi who have been appointed to various water entities? Can’t see that happening.
    
    * How is he going to reallocate resources that have been confiscated from various councils who now have minimal/zero influence on Entity Boards?
    
    * How is he going to combat Maori Elite who self imagine they now own NZs Water and are making a mint out of it?
    
    * Is he going to take back taxpayer monies gifted to various councils for signing up to the 3 Waters rort and how will this be done?
    
    No doubt there are many more issues should this rort be implemented and rescinded but that will do for the present.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:44am
  - David Garrett
    
    As you expect, the answer is pretty complicated, but I’ll give it a go.
    
    Any law – unless “entrenched” – may be repealed by 51% of the MP’s. A law may be entrenched – as are parts [or all??] of our Electoral Act – by containing provision(s) that may only be repealed by a 75% vote in the House. That is called entrenchment. The problem with that is that without more, the very law itself – which contains entrenched provisions – can be repealed by 51% of MP’s, which effectively nullifies the entrenched provisions. In other words the entire law can be repealed, and the entrenched provisions disappear with it.
    
    The way to cure that is what is called double entrenchment which means that the law itself – the law containing those entrenched provisions – can only be repealed by a 75% vote.
    
    I don’t have time to go through the Electoral Act, but I think it might be the only double entrenched law in NZ…they are certainly extremely rare.
    
    I hope that helps – and even more so that I got it right! No doubt someone like Graeme Edgeler will put me right if I am wrong.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:38am
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Ta DG – so in a nutshell can’t make the Act double
      entrenched with current numbers but I get the point now of “changes” in Winnie’s comment. Phew! Thanks and I hope you are right. 🙂 🙂
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:53am
    - Durden
      
      DG, Surely the idea of entrenchment is that the Act is so important nationally that it should have bipartisan, or multi party, support of over 75% for it to be entrenched in the first place. Is there any constraint like this in the parliamentary entrenchment conventions?
      
      One assumes that if that is not the case, over time every party with a simple majority can make every law it passes entrenched.
      
      That could lead to a government Acts gridlock – an unacceptable or untenable situation when genuine and essential future changes are to be made.
      
      Another option I presume would be a binding public referendum .
      
      You are right, it would be useful to have experts or past MP’s on KB weigh in on this question.
      
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      March 10, 2022 5:34pm
Swifty

Question for the day.

To what degree have Labour’s policies since 2017 contributed to the ‘cost of living crisis’ that is now talk of the town?

I might add that off the top of my head I can name six or eight policies since 2017 that have caused increases to NZ business costs, complexity and/or compliance burden but, funnily enough, I can’t think of a single one which has reduced those burdens.
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March 10, 2022 8:15am
- RoboRob
  
  All of the housing policy, especially the stuff around rentals, only increases costs.
  
  I laughed at the fools who were renting that voted for Labour the first time. How stupid could they be. The government was going to make their houses warmer and dryer as well as removing ‘tax breaks’ from rich landlords. All of this was going to happen and rental prices were going to drop.
  
  It takes a special kind of person to believe that was going to happen. Obviously the reverse was true, rents are through the roof and its ALL down to Labours policies.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:10am
- artemisia
  
  Yes, a lot of new regs and complexity added in the last 4 years. I keep an eye on the rental sector and the number of added rules (and fines) are quite astonishing. The government intentions are to increase renter rights and conditions, and to encourage property investors towards new builds.
  
  Some of the new rules might look so simple in theory but are so complex IRL that even experienced landlords are asking questions.
  
  Meanwhile, every month the number of homes for sale is increasing, as is the number of new builds looking for buyers and the social housing waiting list. Maybe a connection there.
  
  As costs rise so does market rent. Of course costs do not rise to anything like the same extent across the sector (for example the huge number of mortgage free rentals) but rents will rise anyway.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:14am
- Prince
  
  All the excuses for Supermarket price increases – no one mentions the minimum wage increases.
  Virtue has its costs.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:35am
- mogg
  
  We have soft on crime, policies based on racial division, government spending out of control, the threat of runaway inflation, knee-jerk decision making , Jacinda and Grant at the helm, what could possibly go wrong?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:45am
I remember when

‘There is no hole here.’: National denies Labour’s claim of tax policy error: Newshub:
“Sunday was all hugs, kisses and tax cuts from Luxon.”
No innuendo there then.
Luxon is obviously ‘Typhoid Mary.”
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March 10, 2022 8:20am
- kowtow
  
  Yeah but how dumb was that imagery .
  
  They’re all wearing masks and then hugging each other.
  
  Shows how udderly ridiculous the whole situation that the regime has brought about actually is.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:14am
cjn

“The West is powerful but it is not almighty. Defeats in Afghanistan , Syria, Vietnam and elsewhere over the years have taught us that. Just as we need to restore a proper sense of proportion in public health policy that was lost sight of over the past two years – we can’t prevent every infection and every death – we also need to maintain a proper sense of what our foreign policy can and cannot achieve, and how much we can afford.” Will Jones writing in the Dailysceptic 9 March for the British readership but also pertinent to us. The whole article is worth reading.
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March 10, 2022 8:20am
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Government is making decisions on lousy information

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/chris-hipkins-admits-government-doesn-t-know-which-covid-19-patients-are-in-hospital-for-virus-versus-other-illness.html

How many folks are catching covid whilst in hospital?
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March 10, 2022 8:21am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Maggy, as was the case in the UK, hospital is one of the highest risk places for catching covid. For obvious reasons. Hospitals have always been a hotbed for infections.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:25am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Unvaccinated and uninfected health workers are not allowed to work.
  
  Vaccinated and infected health workers are allowed to work. Staff shortages.
  
  Unvaccinated and vaccinated, infectious and uninfected patients are allowed.
  
  Seems like the best place to catch covid is a hospital.
  
  None of this makes any sense.
  
  Why do we still have mandates, passes, MIQ etc clearly they have all failed.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:48am
- Dairy Flat
  
  Quite a few from what I understand. My father has been in North Shore hospital since the New Year (not for or with the plague), tested positive a couple of weeks ago when others in his ward started returning positive results so they tested everyone in the ward. Shifted to the Covid ward.. He’s now over it and despite being 91 didn’t have much more than a mild cold. He’s been shifted from the plague ward now but it seems others in his new ward have been testing positive. Sounds like there’s a lot of it running free in the hospital.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:03am
- tui47
  
  How many have actually died from the effects of the virus itself?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:11am
  - David Garrett
    
    Who knows? What we do know for sure is it is fewer – perhaps many fewer – than the 60 (IIRC) who have died since the thing began.
    
    I say the “thing” because I’m fucked if I know if it is/was a pandemic or a panic-demic.
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:41am
- RoboRob
  
  This is the same government where the minister of health didn’t know his Lab workers were going to strike. Par for the course.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:12am
- cmm
  
  “How many folks are catching covid whilst in hospital?”
  
  Perhaps quite a few, but most are more likely coming in asymptomatic and are surprised when they test positive.
  
  Quite likely many of those who have died with CV19 were symptomatic too.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:28am
- alloytoo
  
  In South Africa (and I suspect here) the large number of cases of Omicron in hospital were/are because the tests are a prerequisite for admission for any ailment.
  
  Gross ICU usage is probably the best metric to watch.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:13am
- oldfella
  
  someone should tell Hipkins about this stat.
  Covid-19: 30% of women giving birth at Auckland’s Middlemore Hospital have virus
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/128009738/covid19-30-of-women-giving-birth-at-aucklands-middlemore-hospital-have-virus
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:30am
  - cmm
    
    So masks don’t work as contraceptives then?
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:22pm
- Surely Knott
  
  The vaxxers say that the vax reduces severe disease as evidenced by hospitalisation. This is their key success metric.
  
  But there is no definition given for “hospitalisation” by Ministry of Health.
  
  Only a year into the pandemic did MOH add a definition for covid deaths when we were told covid deaths may be totally unrelated to covid. eg gunshot.
  
  NSWales does give a definition and hospitalisation data.
  
  Definition: “Hospital admissions are counted in this report where the COVID-19 diagnosis is at least two weeks before or six weeks after the onset of illness. This does not necessarily mean all hospitalisations were attributable to the COVID-19 diagnosis. The hospitalisations counted include only in-patient hospital stays, and exclude day-only hospitalisations, Hospital in the Home, and those only in emergency departments or ward types not routinely used for COVID-19 admissions”
  
  A few things skew the statistics which are noted in their report.
  
  1. At the beginning of the pandemic and this outbreak all covid patients went to hospital. And at the begining of the outbreak the vax wasn’t widely available or eligible to the general public. So the beginning the hospitalisation rate among unvaxxed was extremely high.
  
  2. The very elderly are under represented as many are being cared for by an in home team and this is not counted. The NSW stats say that the number of people over 90 in the count is only half of the real number as there are so many being cared for at home. Presumably this is a highly vaxxed cohort that is undercounted.
  
  Why doesn’t NZ have hospitalisation reports. Mortality statistics. We have very little transparency compared to other countries.
  https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/hospitalisations.pdf
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:49pm
I remember when

Jacinda demonstrates her great financial depth.
“There are two options – he’s cutting health, he’s cutting education or he’s increasing debt.”
I wonder which one isn’t an option.
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March 10, 2022 8:23am
- Yabster
  
  yep she actually said that on the news last night- embarassing.
  
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  March 10, 2022 2:12pm
ClanMcleod

So this is what NZ has come to.

My wife had a procedure a week ago to get a skin cancer removed from her face. It was reasonably extensive, a 5 cm incision down the side of her nose by her cheek. She was booked to go in yesterday to the local medical centre to get the stitches out. She is exempt from wearing a mask at any time, but considering she had facial surgery and a visible scar it should be blatantly obvious why she couldn’t wear a mask.
The nurse who came to remove the stitches asked my wife to wear a mask. My wife said she was exempt. The nurse said “no, no, no!!, there’s no such thing,” My wife tried to be reasonable and pointed out if she had a mask on the nurse wouldn’t be able to remove the stitches. The nurse said she could by pulling the mask to the side. My wife pointed out that made the whole concept of a mask meaningless. The belligerent nurse disagreed.
My wife said don’t worry about it, I’ll go home and do it myself. So she did, she left, went home, and with the help of a neighbour and a pair of tweezers and scissors. They did it together at home.
To say I am angry is to understate the depth of feelings I am going through right now. That Ardern can bring our medical system to this pathetic state of affairs horrifies me. My trust in our medical establishments is totally gone as is my trust in politicians.
What a total disgrace Ardern is. What a despicable, nasty pos.
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March 10, 2022 8:23am
- surfing
  
  Perhaps you should lay a complaint against the nurse?
  
  If your wife has unhealed facial wounds then it does seem extraordinarily cruel to make her wear a mask.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:28am
- Rodney Hide
  
  It’s shocking a nurse could be that ignorant, inhumane, and compliant. But this is what we have come to.
  
  I am pleased your wife is home and wish her a speedy recovery.
  
  Rodney Hide
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:29am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Thank you Rodney, my wife will be fine. We are resilient people. Just horrified and shocked at what is becoming of a once wonderful, kind and caring country. A description stolen and bastardised by Ardern.
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:36am
- peterwn
  
  Even if you distrust politicians, still vote on election day. Not voting or spoiling your ballot paper means you are casting half a vote for the party you do NOT want in power.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:31am
- krazykiwi
  
  Add my best wishes to those of Rodney, ClanMcLeod.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:59am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Thank you KK, if anything it has hardened our resolve and I believe we are coming out of the last 2 years much stronger as a family unit. We are certainly wiser than we were in 2019.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:04am
- kowtow
  
  Yes , blame Ardern but they couldn’t have got away with it without a whole army of willing foot soldiers , like that nurse and practically the whole of the Fourth Estate .
  
  Here in New Zealand , if the boy had called out “the emperor has no clothes ” he’d have been dragged away by the onlookers and lynched .
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:18am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Did you wife show her exemption?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:34am
  - cmm
    
    There is no need to show an exception
    
    “There is no legal requirement for people to carry an exemption card, though many choose to do so”
    
    https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-health-advice-public/covid-19-use-face-masks-community/covid-19-advice-people-who-are-unable-wear-face-mask
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:43am
    - David Garrett
      
      Fuck me…even their own advice is internally incoherent and inconsistent.
      
      At the beginning of that link, the MOH say :
      
      “there is no legal requirement to carry an exemption card, but many choose to do so”
      
      Further down this appears:
      
      While it is inappropriate for a business owner or employee to enquire about the nature of your disability or condition, it’s reasonable for them to check whether you are exempt from the requirement to wear a face mask.
      
      So in summary: You don’t legally have to carry proof of exemption, but you may be asked to prove you have one…which you can only do if you have the magic ausweis…which you don’t legally have to carry. Ah…yeah.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:49am
      - cmm
        
        ” it’s reasonable for them to check whether you are exempt from the requirement to wear a face mask.”
        
        That means they can check by asking you if you are exempt.
        
        It does not mean they can check by demanding papers, papers. They have to take your word for it.
        
        There is another document floating around on the MoH website that helps “clarify” this.
        
        Elsewhere there is guidance that the you don’t even need a doctor/psychologist to sign off on an exemption. You can pretty much declare yourself exempt by your own judgement and nobody can call you out because they are not allowed to ask why.
        
        Since mental health and mental anguish are valid reasons, it pretty much makes anyone entitled to feel they are exempt.
        
        It’s really another “feel-good” law.
        
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        March 10, 2022 1:31pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    What an insensitive, idiot comment – even from you Brian
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:45am
  - kevn
    
    @brain… We are assuming the nurse had eyes that could see. The ladies damaged face.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:50am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      We are also expecting her to be a professional.
      
      NO-ONE is to be denied medical or nursing assistance because of their vaccination status or Mask exemptions.
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:04am
      - cmm
        
        Quite.
        
        I am all for businesses having free association and choosing who they provide services to.
        * If a business does not want to serve unmasked people – fine.
        * If a business does not want to serve unvaccinated – fine.
        * If they don’t want to serve gays, white people, men, women or people that drive Toyotas – fine.
        
        But that free association ends as soon as they get paid by the taxpayer – as all medical providers in NZ are. As soon as they take the taxpayer coin they lose that choice.
        
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        March 10, 2022 10:49am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        and of course, now it is acceptable for covid positive DHB staff to come to work. My wife had to have a negative RAT to get her procedure in the first place. The irony being she is confirmed covid negative and had to place herself at risk with someone to get her stitches out who may have been covid positive.
        You can’t make this shit up!
        
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        March 10, 2022 11:16am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    And he misses again!!!
    A claim of exemption is enough. Plus the common sense fact that if you’re doing something to someone’s face, they shouldn’t be wearing a mask as you risk doing damage that would be easily prevented by simply taking the mask off.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:10am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Brian – as with any other person, that is absolutely none of your business nor anyone else’s. But, I’ll respond if for no other reason than to educate you.
    
    My wife has her exemption in her purse, but there is no requirement to “show” it to anyone. There is no requirement for a medical certificate. Legally nobody can demand to see evidence of exemption.
    
    All of the relevant information can be found here if you are genuinely interested, though I have no doubt your comment is just your usual facetious waste of space.
    
    https://odysee.com/@voicesforfreedom:6/mask-exemptions-official-govt-info:f
    
    However I’ll put it in context just for you – this was our local medical centre who are fully aware of her status. Also, the fact she had a 5 centimetre scar running from just below her eye to the base of her nose should have been a bit of a giveaway that a mask may not be appropriate don’t you think? And just how was a nurse going to be able to remove stitches while she was wearing a mask? It’s really just one more good example of how inane the rules are around covid and have been from the very beginning. Clear evidence that none of this is anything to do with health.
    
    Now, maybe you should go away and read the government papers and requirements around mask exemptions. Then you don’t need waste more time asking more irrelevant questions.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:26am
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      Psychologists are describing this as Mass Psychosis and Group Think, where people have stopping thinking critically and have a fear that is all out of proportion to the risk. Other examples are people wearing masks going for a walk outside where there are few passersby. The worst example is the many many people who have been injured by their first jab, many with serious, injuries/health conditions medically verified and linked to the vaccine who are required to get a 2nd dose in order to get a vax pass or keep their job or study at Uni. Many of these are 20 somethings who are at very little risk from long term effects of covid but are clearly at risk from the vaccine. People have had specialists submitting multiple times for exemptions and been denied. I don’t know the exact number of exemptions given out but I believe it is less than 100. My GP told me the only vax exemption that would be approved was for people on prednisone as they would def get myocarditis. “Don’t worry about dying immediately after the jab, just come into the hospital and get it done so we have a medical team on hand to treat you immediately for the reaction we know you will have”. It’s appalling and clearly not about health. The only satisfaction I gain from this is that all the people denied vax exemptions (except for the exceptionally brainwashed) realise how bad the mandates are. They would have been pro mandate people who were inadvertantly pushed on to the anti mandate side. They will never vote for Labour regardless of previous affiliation. I am surprised National/Act didn’t make more of a fuss about this. Even the super pro vax medicos know this is ridiculous.
      
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      March 10, 2022 11:49am
- cmm
  
  If nothing else this should underline why it is important to become as independent of government systems as you can.
  
  Removing stitches is not really a medical procedure and is painless to do at home. The only real benefit you get from having a nurse do it is checking it has healed properly and is not infected (both of which are pretty obvious) or other complications.
  
  I’m sure if you wanted to, you’d find a whole lot of youtube videos to help if needed.
  
  Of course you need to rely on the system for some things (eg. it is impractical to try most surgery at home), but do what you can for yourself and avoid the system as much as possible.
  
  But this is not medical advice. Think for yourself.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:41am
  - kevn
    
    A doctor/nurse visit should not be deemed to be part of a ‘government system’ surely.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:52am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      No, unless you’re trying to punish the “disobedient”.
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:43am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Our medical system is overwhelmingly a government bureaucracy. My wife calls it third world. The private sector is better but strangled with bureaucratic control and mismanagement.
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:54am
    - cmm
      
      It should not be, but it is.
      
      There are thousands of medical staff (both doctors and nurses) who have completely unplugged their brains and are just doing what the state and its fearmongers tell them.
      
      You could also say the same for many other encroaching government overreach.
      
      For example, why are there even laws surrounding marriage? How have we got to a point where the government can decide who gets married etc? It is ridiculous.
      
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      March 10, 2022 10:56am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    my wife messaged me to ask me to come home and do it for her. We had no problem with doing it, as you say, not a major procedure. As you say, more to do with someone checking the wound, that it was healing properly, no inflammation etc.
    I got home an hour later and she and the neighbour had already done it.
    We live very rurally. We are quite self sufficient in many things. Our neigbour is very practical also.
    We have no concerns about having to do this, I really just wanted to highlight yet again, how moronic the response to covid has been. Also, how yet again, our trust in once respected institutions is being eroded.
    We have and are continuing to make ourselves and some in our community, as detached from the system as we can. Just as you advise. It has been a tough couple of years, but I will say this – once you get that independence there is no better feeling in the world.
    As an update, there have been a number of “concerned” phone calls from the medical centre to our home and to my wife’s cell phone. No doubt, the incident has reached higher authority who realises the implications of the nurse’s actions.
    We won’t be engaging or responding.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:35am
- Inandout
  
  a perfect example of how bloody useless those masks are if the nurse is terrified of something getting through her facial material. But then I recall a friend saying his nurse wife may divide her house and the husband can occupy one half and she the other. Such is the omicron terror out there. Now I hear the govt may soften its stance to employing unvaxxed nurses, no doubt urged by the court decision on mandates. This country truly has gone stark raving mad.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:07pm
- My
  
  Lets hope these people and those I see walking down the beach with a mask do not win the election.
  
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  March 10, 2022 4:05pm
- covfefe
  
  Make an HDC complaint – that nurse knows nothing.
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:20pm
Tony Stuart

How out-of-touch is the Labour Party?

Well, there are all sorts of answers to that question, but on the issue of New Zealanders now being able to return home, they’re hopelessly out of touch. So much so, that they’ve had to turn to gaslighting; check this out:

Suit and tie @Suitandtie9999
The best example of gaslighting I have seen..hands down! The sheer arrogance and contempt shown to kiwis by daring to state you are “Welcoming kiwis home sooner” is just breathtaking.
Proudly on Labour’s homepage as an achievement. Unbelievable!
@nzlabour #nzpol

https://twitter.com/Suitandtie9999/status/1501295844171022338

Now it’s not as if Labour didn’t have to be dragged kicking and screaming into opening the borders to returning Kiwis, it’s not as if they weren’t taken to court by Grounded Kiwis, it’s not as if tens of thousands of New Zealanders signed a petition to end MIQ. But now, Labour is so brazen it’s claiming the credit for “welcoming more Kiwis home sooner”!

I’ll leave the last word to Grounded Kiwis, who posted the following tweet last night:

Grounded Kiwis GroundedKiwis
14h
We had to check out Labour’s homepage to see if this was for real after spotting it in a few posts. It is. We. Just. Can’t. Even.

https://twitter.com/GroundedKiwis/status/1501418903935021057

PS: Not even the photo used by Labour is original. It’s a stock photo of a couple at Cape Town Airport in South Africa!
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March 10, 2022 8:24am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The use of that photo is a great metaphor for the whole Ardern government, plastic, fraudulent, shallow and petty and it all stems from she who must be obeyed. A truly vile creature.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:28am
  - kowtow
    
    They’ve memory holed that budget cover photo of the woman who , went to australia.
    
    The tax payer union or someone should start a searchable library of these as well as all the false slogans they’ve come up with over the years .
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:55am
  - Nickc2
    
    There’s a thought for a new industry. Manufacture and sell spray cans of ARDERN REPELLANT. A couple of container loads of the things to Harvard University would make a mint.
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:51am
- nathie
  
  TS – Apart from Labour’s unashamed hypocrisy on display, I seem to recall Labour also getting caught out several years ago on a couple of occasions when also using stock photos that originated overseas (I seem to have forgotten what it was though, do you recall by chance)?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:10am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    The first ‘wellness’ budget they crowed about used a family pic on the over, being shown off by Robbo, and the models for that picture turned out to have emigrated to overseas – Aussie.
    It was pointed out in a news item, so nice implication.
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:21pm
- kevn
  
  We have a bogus government. Pretenders.
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:54am
Maggie Pie

Had to larf 😀

One of the girls from tennis tweeted last night that “Clarke Gayford” spelled backwards is…..Drofyag Ekralc.

Sounds Russian. LOL!!!
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March 10, 2022 8:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Good grief..
  Do you know that Дрофяг is the name for a Bustard?
  
  (check with Tatiana – I may have spelt it wrong)
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:43am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    No it’s not. Stop making stuff up. Ypu are not funny.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:26am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Sounded similar to my ears
      дрофа
      
      https://www.cms.int/great-bustard/sites/default/files/document/Russian%20Bird%20Conservation%20Union%20%28Saratov%20Branch%29.pdf
      
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      March 10, 2022 12:53pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Only sounds Russian if you are an out of touch Boomer.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:27am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    “Veotsu Virdap” sounds like a gay Czechoslovak 😀
    
    Just saying.
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:00pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Now do Eip Eiggam. Ethiopian?
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:09pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Talking of that…..I see where Russia accidentally detonated a Nuclear Bomb in Ethiopia. 500 people died and 4 million ran to eat the mushroom.
    
    😀
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:51pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  She’d do better to practice her forehand
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Any suggestions for a name for the new Public Broadcasting chimera?

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/change-wont-come-fast-for-new-public-media-entity
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March 10, 2022 8:26am
- plc
  
  Tass
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:31am
- Michael J Baker
  
  Pravda.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:35am
- All_on_Red
  
  Has to be Ministry of Truth doesn’t it.
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:41am
  - yossarian
    
    Minitrue for short?
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:22am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Like your “truth” that you would never post here again because of the rule changes introduced by DPF are the Chch shootings?
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:42am
    - All_on_Red
      
      I think you are confusing me with someone else.
      Hardly surprising given your obvious and continuous confusion about a lot of things.
      
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      March 10, 2022 9:52am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Brian has history with targeting the wrong person unfortunately.
        
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        March 10, 2022 10:14am
  - Phronesis
    
    Not maori enough, how about — Te Truthi Maker
    
    IRD is Te Tariff taker after all
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:01am
- iMP
  
  (Maori Prefix) Govt Spin (Maori Suffix).
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:44am
  - Nickc2
    
    the Ministry of Propaganda – te minitatanga whakatö
    
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    March 10, 2022 11:05am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Te Whāke Rongo. Or if you prefer “Te Rongo Rūpahu”
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:00am
- Vory v zakone
  
  Ministry of the Single Source of Truth ?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:14am
- backster
  
  It will have to be a Maori name to reflect the co-governance comprising separate maori and the Rest boards with the maori one having right of veto over anything published or presented.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:38am
- Ehlana
  
  Te Reo Mana O Aotearoa – KiwiSpeak
  
  The Maori name translates as “The Official Voice of Aotearoa”.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:43am
- mikenmildagain
  
  NZBC would be good.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:11pm
  - RightNow
    
    Soon to become MSNZBC
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:43pm
- Lexicon
  
  How about Con Air?
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:42pm
I remember when

One thing about the financial restraints being put on Russia and their effects on the rest of the World.
If they work it will be a very cheap war.
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March 10, 2022 8:31am
Black with a Vengeance

[Deleted – take your racist dribble elsewhere. mod.]
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March 10, 2022 8:34am
Yvette

Further to host David Farrar’s 7.00am post “Terrible recommendations on Three Waters”
this too, may be terrible –

Claims Māori will own NZ’s water infrastructure dismissed
The Three Waters working group has dismissed claims that Māori will own the country’s water infrastructure under the reforms.
… “It’s absolute nonsense. We have always said, that we’re not interested in owning the water assets. What we’re interested in is the proprietor rights over water [1], and that is a discussion to be had with the Crown, not with councils.” – Tuku Morgan, a member of the working group and Waikato Tainui descendant [2]

As stated above, while ownership and voting rights are an issue under “3 Waters”, it is an argument / “conversation” about water assets
What is yet to be settled is ownership of water itself.
That, of course, would totally change “3 Waters” yet gain! – wouldn’t it?

{1] Proprietary rights, also termed property rights, are the rights that accompany legal ownership of tangible or intangible property; rights over or in respect of property.
[2] https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/09/claims-maori-will-own-nzs-water-infrastructure-dismissed/
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March 10, 2022 8:35am
- Hard Cheese
  
  Of course they’re not interested in the water assets. They can’t sell them and they have to maintain them, which involves spending money and a lot of work. If they have proprietor rights over water it costs them nothing, they don’t have to do any work, and they can keep ratcheting up the royalty payments forever.
  
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  March 10, 2022 6:07pm
wilderbeast

Siouxsie Wiles pretty much getting a free pass from the MSM for being caught flat out lying by the Media Council. In my travels I saw her Wikipedia profile and see she was born “Susanna”, so quite a leap to call herself “Siouxsie”, but I guess that’s in line with dying your hair pink….like an overgrown teenager. Narcissism strong in that one
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March 10, 2022 8:38am
- nathie
  
  Well surprise, surprise, not! Ms Wiles’ wiki page does not have a “controversies” section (seems to be reserved for the centre-right/right eg the likes of Harete Hipango).
  
  Although there is mention of her “level 4 beach breach” it is done in a way to suggest she was a victim of right-wing bloggers and that Bloomfield said it was ok. So no mention that this was actually against the rules nor Bloomfield’s response being incorrect (nor that Wiles misled Bloomfield).
  
  And of course, no mention of the recent finding against her.
  
  Clearly a protected person!
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:42am
- namron
  
  Good point wilderbeast.
  Don’t the name and the hair say “NOTICE ME! “LOOK AT ME!
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:58am
- David Garrett
  
  In her case a very much overgrown teenager…Given obesity is, and always has been, a recognised risk factor for Covid, you’d think she’d lead by example wouldn’t you, and lose some weight?
  
  I have a very good eye for such things, and I would guess she is not just obese but close to if not actually morbidly so.
  
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  March 10, 2022 6:51pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Fake name, fake hair, fake expertise (what she pronounces on is not her specialist knowledge).
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:16pm
I remember when

Corrections managing hundreds of covid-19 cases among inmates: RNZ:
So are they saying that locking a group of people up in a building together doesn’t prevent the spread of Covid.
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March 10, 2022 8:38am
Dr John

A headline in this mornings Herald states that climate change has increased flooding on the West Coast.
Wrong. A far more relevant reason is in one word. Pakahi [the West Coast swamps].
In years gone bye, the common heavy rain would lie around in the pakahi and, over weeks, drain to the rivers.
Now farms have been cleared and giant drainage ditches dug. And presto, the rain hits the cleared paddocks, drops into the giant drains and is on the motorway to the sea.
Result: rapid rise in river levels and floods all around.
Human related? Sure. But climate change? Certainly not. But the alarmists will, of course, grab at every opportunity to expand their fake news.
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March 10, 2022 8:48am
ecco

Tried to watch last weekend’s recorded episode of the Nation. Had to turn it off. Seeing two women with mokos just put me off watching the Nation which I used to like. Mahuta and the presenter who interviewed Luxon both have mokos. There’s also a third woman newsreader with a moko at tv3 whom I turn off when she’s on.

Btw I think Mahuta would have been much better as Maori affairs minister. The visual message and her whole demeanour just symbolise how the angry Māoris feel. I guess Ardern put Mahuta in foreign affairs as it looks good for Ardern’s UN job application down the track. (However after reading that ‘Where’s Clarke Gayford’ Facebook group you’d have to surmise that Ardern’s UN chances are rapidly going down the gurgler. Whether the rumours are true or not. Where’s there’s smoke there’s fire. Surely!)

Having a moko just basically says to me these women are stating ” I’m on the extreme left/activist area of the political spectrum”. It would be nice for presenters to be impartial politically or not blatantly show their bias.

Tv3 seems to have gone full frontal Woke. What with putting in those two women with Ryan Bridge and having that weatherman William Wairua just confirm that for me. Was that a requirement for tv3 to qualify for funding from Ardern’s covid media bribe fund? That’s the only reason I can see for those changes in presenters.
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March 10, 2022 9:03am
- Unity
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:11pm
- glowworm
  
  I’m no fan of the current state of affairs in the MSM. But judging people on appearance is not wise or moral. There are many beautiful, good, decent, hard working people with mokos who you just smeared.
  
  Judge people by their actions/merit, or lack thereof, but not on appearance of things you do not understand.
  
  You risk entering and abetting the woke left group identity politics agenda behaving this way.
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:18pm
- Unity
  
  I totally agree with you ecco. It’s definitely very hard to watch but we have the choice not to.
  
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  March 10, 2022 4:11pm
Yvette

Ukraine
Overall, Putin’s actions would seem to be about “identity”.
He hopes to resurrect his Soviet “identity” – his preferred environment of the Soviet Union before its collapse. A pro-NATO Ukraine, right next to Russia, could threaten that.

But Putin believes “Care is protecting a way of life for generations” – his way of life

And so does terrorist Tarrant – care is protecting a European way of life for generations (a precis of his beliefs, not a quote) – except, as his warped logic saw it, the most fertile “invaders” had not over-run New Zealand, as in for example France or Germany, to destroy “a way of life” – so basically Tarrant selected the entirely wrong country as a venue for his heinous crime of “protecting a way of life” he favoured, or feared was threatened, as Putin also believes.
Tarrant appears to be a European / eco supremacist. Putin is a Soviet supremacist.

Tarrant killed 51. Putin is slaughtering thousands.
But simply, and utterly tragically, it may be the same motivation – the same deal.
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March 10, 2022 9:03am
- ClanMcleod
  
  As an added extra, didn’t Tarrant spend time in Ukraine with the Azov Battalion? The neo nazis?
  
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/christchurch-shooting-far-right-groups-in-ukraine-eastern-europe/10983542
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:23am
kowtow

Anyone remember how the Media Pardy treated the so called Wanaka runaway couple , or the constant attacks on the Freedom Villagers for not wearing masks etc

This is in the sports section of the ODT , I wonder if the rest of the bought and paid for media Pardy will pick up this ball .

‘The behaviour of Highlanders players who ignored requests from cabin crew to wear masks on a flight home from Wellington has been labelled “unacceptable”.’

Note the report calls it “rule breaking” , actually it’s law breaking .

https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders-flout-mask-rules
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March 10, 2022 9:04am
Yvette

Reader alert: oxy moron –
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern hopes increases to the minimum wage and Family Tax Credits, and the upcoming Winter Energy Payment, will ease cost of living pressures, which she so emphatically denies exists.
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March 10, 2022 9:05am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  She denies there’s a crisis…
  that’s because she has an income of mega$$$ and has never read Dickens.
  
  ‘Annual income 20 pounds, annual expenditure 19 [pounds] 19 [shillings] and six [pence], result happiness.
  Annual income 20 pounds, annual expenditure 20 pounds ought and six, result misery.’
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:14pm
ecco

Does anyone think Ardern is dragging the chain on announcing a refugee quota for war torn Ukrainians? Are they not the right skin colour or right religion for her preferred refugees?

I’m not in favour of NZ taking in huge numbers of refugees but after seeing the harrowing news stories I’m actually in favour of taking some Ukranians in rather than the usual refugees we seem to be taking in.
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March 10, 2022 9:06am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  What’s unusual to see is refugees who look like us. By which I mean middle class, well dressed in Western clothes, travelling by cars like ours and yes, white.
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:21pm
Rusty

I’m surprised our PM and Mike Baker haven’t accused the Russia/Ukraine conflict of being a super spreader of omicron or does it only apply to Nzers and not the rest of the world?

Full unmasked crowds at sports and entertainment events around the world but here in NZ empty venues to watch super rugby and women’s cricket.

What a gullible and compliant lot we are in NZ.
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March 10, 2022 9:10am
Gordon Shumway

More than two years into this pandemic, and the only way to report a positive RAT on a child is to phone a helpline and get connected to an overworked telephonist who takes the details. Unbelievable.

Hilariously, the “call you back and keep your place in the line” function doesn’t work if you enter a mobile number. Instead, you lose your place in the line.

The underreporting of positive cases in children will be massive because of this.
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March 10, 2022 9:14am
Maggie Pie

As the humanitarian crisis worsens in Ukraine, has anyone spared a thought for the suffering of the poor animals?

Took little Gladys over to the ‘Waiata Dog Reserve’ earlier….and to watch all the other owners walking their babies, with not a care in the world, it really makes you feel blessed.

Wasn’t it Gandy that said, “You can judge a nation by the way it treats its Dogs”

Between Russians bombing them, Chinese torturing & eating them, it sure says a lot about those country’s morality 🙁

Tatiana’s sister in Poland thought this might be helpful…..

https://twitter.com/help_for_nowzad/status/1498939978096721920
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March 10, 2022 9:21am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Russians during WW2 trained up stray dogs to be fed under the front of tanks and military trucks, then strapped bombs to their backs and sent them off towards the German front lines.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:32am
- Durden
  
  “Gandy” ? Easy enough to find the right spelling for the great man – Gandhi.
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:03pm
In Vino Veritas

All will be well in Europe soon! Kamala Harris is being dispatched to Poland to discuss military assistance for Ukraine, will also meet with Canadian power house PM Trudeau, then go on to Romania.

If anyone can save the world, then the most abjectly inept Vice President in the last 100 years can do it I’m sure. Hmmm, just think of how great the UN would become if both Harris AND Ardern end up there…..
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March 10, 2022 9:22am
Suze Wainwright

How many more words will this govt select from the dictionary to weaponise?

Kindness, misinformation, partnership, conversation…
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March 10, 2022 9:23am
- Lexicon
  
  And my personal favourite – disappointed.
  
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  March 10, 2022 2:01pm
- kowtow
  
  Foreign ( but only if it’s of the American variety)
  
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  March 10, 2022 5:41pm
krazykiwi

For anyone who subscribes to Substack, they have just released a reader app. Both iOS and Android. It looks really good, allowing your subscriptions to be organised and consumed. Supports video content.
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March 10, 2022 9:25am
- Lee C
  
  For you:
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/3qqG7TOChsWE/?fbclid=IwAR38K6hRlXmL5Dltc5hvQU8v8ILNgmhCiSdm8iKdUYrF5IWI1j-RXnQaN2M
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:46pm
Lee C

I wish your wife a speedy recovery, Clan – Don’t let the negative vibes spoil it for you – Cindy loves them negativE vibes!
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March 10, 2022 9:40am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Thank you Lee C. We’re good, it’s been a tough couple of years but we have a good network around us. We wouldn’t give Ardern the pleasure of getting negative! My anger quickly turns into resolve.
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:29am
  - Lee C
    
    One for your archives, Clan:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/3qqG7TOChsWE/?fbclid=IwAR38K6hRlXmL5Dltc5hvQU8v8ILNgmhCiSdm8iKdUYrF5IWI1j-RXnQaN2M
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:46pm
surfing

Person spoke up Newstalk ZB, he has crazy Kainga ora neighbours. They get moved out every 12 weeks so the property can be decontaminated for meth. Neighbours dealing drugs from the property, etc.

But, rather than target the meth addicts, Kainga Ora had a lawyer issue him a warning for being so agitated about the neighbours.

A serious staff clean out and attitude re-adjustment is needed. Kainga Ora are attacking the good tenants, presumably because it is easier than dealing with the gang members.

I’m fed up with this nonsense…this is a nation of feral lovers.
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March 10, 2022 9:43am
Lee C

Were Justin and Jacinda separated at birth?

They both sure like to dress up..

https://youtu.be/yL8jwpNcfD4
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March 10, 2022 9:44am
- HalfFull
  
  I believe its a form of Bolgeritis. Found after watching re runs of House MD. Cure was For this treatment, the head is shaved, and 4 sets of electrodes are placed on the scalp. The electrodes are attached to a battery pack (kept in a backpack) and are worn for most of the day. They generate mild electric currents that are thought to affect cells in the brain more than normal cells.//
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:36am
Warren

It’s unbelievable that Chris Hipkins and the Government doesn’t know which Covid-19 patients are in hospital for virus versus other illnesses.
It’s bad enough that the Health Minister Andrew Little comes ups with answers when asked questions “we are not there yet”
This is a Government that prides its self on failure instead of working to get better and achieve better outcomes.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/stuff-circuit/300536280/government-plan-to-tackle-fetal-alcohol-spectrum-disorder-has-failed
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March 10, 2022 9:46am
Benedict Yu

USA consumers are going insane about the price of petrol in the USA.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/03/08/gas-most-expensive-us-history/9404939002/

The average petrol price yesterday in the USA was $US 4.17 per US Gallon. At current exchange rates that is equal to $NZ 1.61 NZD per litre !!.
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March 10, 2022 9:51am
- Lee C
  
  Didn;t Trump predict this?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:54am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Yes, in May 21 and also at Rallies he held prior to the Election
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ugCUoNNTo
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:00am
- westernScientest
  
  Tax on US gas is pretty minimal. If we took tax off fuel, ours would probably be in that ballpark wouldn’t it?
  
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  March 10, 2022 9:55am
- Libertarians are right
  
  I am Legend is a zombie apocalypse movie starring Will Smith.
  
  The current petrol prices in the US are higher than the “apocalypse prices” in that movie.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:15am
  - Batman
    
    Inflation will enable that when citing a movie from 2007.
    
    That’s not to say prices aren’t high, they are. But inflation guaranteed that would eventually happen, just like the cars that use the fuel don’t cost $5000 brand new anymore.
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:16pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  It’s even worse in central California. Take a look at that photo from LA: that’s equivalent to $NZ 3.51 / litre.
  
  Never thought I’d see the day when the US matched our petrol prices.
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:14am
  - Inandout
    
    TH, I think California has massive local taxes on fuel.
    
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    March 10, 2022 12:13pm
oldfella

Ho, hum… another political cartoon on stuffed mocking the opposition.
It’s tough when the govt of the day never does anything worth mocking. /s
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March 10, 2022 10:00am
oldfella

I’m a little puzzled over this comment from yesterday afternoon.
==
Maggie Pie
National MP Mark Mitchell dispels rumors……
https://twitter.com/MarkMitchellMP/status/1501374467410251777
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Not sure if I’ve got this right, but is a National MP running interference for the PM’s fiance? Really? Is Mitchell quoting a police statement which I haven’t seen quoted anywhere else?
I have to assume Mark doesn’t have much to do these days and thought he’s help out the PM’s PR team. /s
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March 10, 2022 10:08am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Yes, even all the gals at Tennis were wondering why National’s Mark Mitchell, of all people, would find it necessary to be the one to come to Clarkies defense.
  One of them has made Katie aware of it, and hopefully she’ll get ‘Mr Hawkesby’ to grill him about it next time he’s on air.
  
  There was also this in response…..
  
  https://twitter.com/Joseph_Davieson/status/1501416857491755015
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:44am
Maggy Wassilieff

I’ve just done a price comparison of a few cooking basics – Australia Woolworths vs NZ Countdown
online sites…at cheapest prices

2l milk – Au $2.60 NZ $3.79
1kg tasty cheese – Au $12.00 NZ $21.20
Doz eggs – Au $3.70(xtra large) NZ $ 5.50 (Size 6)
500g butter Au $5.00 NZ $5.80

Totals: Au $ 23.30 NZ $ 36.29

And there’s the reason we will have an outflow of young folk to Australia.

Australian cost of living is 2/3rds that of NZ and comparable salaries are at least 1.5X higher in Australia than in NZ.
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March 10, 2022 10:22am
- Prince
  
  That’s the result, not the reason.
  Compare the minimum wage, welfare availability, other Govt charges between the two countries.
  Labour crows about the minimum wage increases, and fair enough – but they have a ripple effect that seems to evade the scrutiny of the media and their own supporters.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:30am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  As I’ve said before, everything this Government does makes New Zealand poorer. They are much worse than useless.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:45am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I agree with your point. However remember that those food items are GST free in Australia. If you adjust for that, and the NZD/AUD exchange rate, the underlying prices for those items are about 20 percent higher in New Zealand – which is still significant.
  
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  March 10, 2022 10:53am
- surfing
  
  Also, university degrees are merit based rather than racially based. Sister chose a maori partner, best career choice she ever made for her child. If they ever move back to NZ that is, he can’t stand the maori gravy train industry.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:51pm
Maggie Pie

Message for Cindy & Robbo….

“Some people don’t realise the price that must be paid for sanctions against Russia”

– German Finance Minister.
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March 10, 2022 10:28am
Black with a Vengeance

How’s the colonization of Ukraine coming along ?

Bombing hospitals and damaging nuclear power plants…classy!

Gotta love the ol European patriarchy. On pain of death it seems.
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March 10, 2022 10:56am
- kowtow
  
  [Deleted – distasteful in many senses. mod.]
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:51am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    And Black’s wasn’t? Sheesh! Batman’s on acid!
    
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    March 11, 2022 3:47am
- cmm
  
  You need to pick your coloniser carefully. Not all colonisers are the same.
  
  Germans suck. Russians too.
  Brits are Best.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:39pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Don’t mention the French.
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:12pm
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    Given the choice of Colonizer, I would rather Samoa had been a German colony than a New Zealand one.
    
    Sure, they were stirring the pot of rival indigenous factions but they did more to progress Samoa than the Brits and Americans at the time and let’s not go into what NZ did in their illegal occupation and suppression of Samoan independence.
    
    We may have suffered for German expansionism from their world wars, but might that have played out to a natural conclusion in contemporary times, Samoa would be benefitting hugely from German technology and work ethic.
    
    Not too happy about French exploits in their Pasifikan Colony, Americans in their annexation of Hawaii, British indentured Indians in Fiji or any religious meddling by Eurocentric missionaries throughout Pasifika.
    
    A big part of the decolonizing process our people are dealing with surrounds identity and defining the indigenous reference. We’re no longer content to have our identity and culture defined by the historically dominant white male patriarchy.
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:22pm
    - westernScientest
      
      Because the Germans treated the (now) Namibian tribes so well?
      
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      March 10, 2022 3:21pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        PNG?
        
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        March 10, 2022 7:27pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Interesting take. Given cessation of german empire after WW1 you would have at least avoided ending up in German ovens during WW2. But looking at the rest of the areas colonised by Germany and how they have developed since I think you are kidding yourself that they would have offered better outcomes than being British did.
      
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      March 10, 2022 3:26pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Samoa wasn’t colonized by the British. It was ‘illegally’ occupied and colonized by New Zealand, itself a colony of the British.
        
        NZ colonial rule eventually oversaw the assassination of the leader of Samoan non violence resistance in an act that supressed and denied Samoan independence for another 30 years but ultimately led to self governance.
        
        The killing of Tupua Lealofi would be tantamount in modern times to the assassination of Martin Luther King.
        
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupua_Tamasese_Lealofi_III
        
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        March 10, 2022 6:15pm
    - Jack5
      
      ?BWAV’s …I would rather Samoa had been a German colony than a New Zealand one.
      
      Rather than being in NZ now, ?BWAV, you would be an einwanderer, an immigrant, in Berlin, or Cologne, sucking that glorious German beer instead of home-made kava.
      
      German grammar is more complex, the people are so uptight they don’t like you walking on park grass, and don’t think present-day Germans would sympathise because an earlier generation of Samoans got zapped at Stalingrad.
      
      I doubt there’s rugby or rugby league in Germany, and it’s cold in winter.
      
      But if you are set on it, perhaps Jacindarella could arrange a swap: Ukrainian refugees for NZ Samoans.
      
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      March 10, 2022 3:55pm
    - cmm
      
      I don’t know much about the German history in the Pacific, but I do know quite a bit about their exploits in Africa. Like in the Pacific, WW1 saw an end to that.
      
      What is interesting is looking at the movement of the Owambo people in Owamboland (an area covering Northern South West Africa – now Namibia) and Southern Angola.
      
      Before WW1, German South West Africa was, well, German. and Southern Angola was Portugese.
      
      Under the Germans, many Owambos moved North into Angola to get away from the Germans. They preferred Portugese to Germans.
      
      In 1916 the Brits took over South West Africa. Immediately Owambos flooded South to get away from the Portugese into British areas.
      
      Now there are relatively few Owambos in Angola.
      
      My grandfather spent a good portion of his life working in the british government in SWA. They really did a lot to help the people.
      
      In both SWA and other parts of Africa (Kenya etc) the Brits put in a lot of effort (including lives) to stamp out slavery – something that was rife before they took over. The Germans and Portugese turned a blind eye to slavery.
      
      My grandfather had a collection of slave rings which he had confiscated from slavers and we had a few kicking around the house when I was a kid.
      
      Sure, but today’s standards we might look back differently, but remember this was 100 years ago.
      
      And if anyone thinks German ethnic cleansing started with Hitler and the Jews, have a look what they did with the Herero people.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_genocide
      
      So when picking your colonial master remember: British Is Best.
      
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      March 10, 2022 4:31pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        There was no ethnic cleansing by Germans towards Samoans.
        
        If anything there was a practise of eugenics whereby many Germans married and had afakasi children who were prized in traditional Samoa.
        
        My grandmother was a Schmidt. I have 3 sets of first cousins all with German surnames.
        
        Germans negotiated fair price for land usage to develop crops like coffee, cacao and copra and invested heavily in infrastructure. Most of their efforts were undermined by American and British interests who fomented a civil war based on traditional factional Samoan rivalries.
        
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        March 10, 2022 6:39pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I wonder what the folks of Safatulofai think.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauaki_Namulauulu_Mamoe
      
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      March 10, 2022 4:39pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        They probably think he should have pulled his head in and toned down the rhetoric.
        
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        March 10, 2022 6:58pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Fair enough..
        
        It’s the way of things though isn’t?
        
        Some folks are willing to embrace change and others want to fight for the status-quo.
        
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        March 10, 2022 7:22pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        And most need to pick and choose their battles more wisely.
        
        Me thinks ol mate Putin is gonna find that out with his attempt to colonize Ukraine.
        
        Germans eventually won over Samoa though non violent means and exiling the “troublemakers”. I doubt Putin will be so forgiving.
        
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        March 10, 2022 8:26pm
    - Manu-Rau
      
      That’s fair enough. Just as long ad you don’t expect hard-working White taxpayers to pay for you.
      
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      March 11, 2022 3:50am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Why did you come here?
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:44pm
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    Where is here ?
    
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    March 10, 2022 2:24pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      NZ
      
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      March 10, 2022 9:29pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  They aren’t using rocks and sticks, to be fair – but nor are they feasting on the dead or flaunting severed heads just yet.
  So there are all sorts of barbarism in how humans treat other humans.
  Not everything has to be seen through the lens of race.
  That’s what a racist will do though.
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:11pm
Ehlana

Some people don’t realise the price that must be paid for incompetence and mismanagement either.

Chris Hipkins this morning: “There needs to be a balance between effectively controlling the outbreak and the flow-on effect for business and essential goods and services such as transport and food supply.”

It’s only taken how many years for them to work this out?
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March 10, 2022 11:02am
- Surely Knott
  
  Except they are not controlling the outbreak, it’s just an outbreak.
  
  It’s an outbreak and the useless restrictions are having a severe impact on business. And a massive breach of human rights for people they have unfairly targetted.. But yip…
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Nania Mahuta and Chris Hipkins released personal information about Charlotte Bellis as she was pleading for a MIQ spot.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2203/S00072/hipkins-breaches-privacy-against-mfat-instruction.htm
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March 10, 2022 11:04am
- virtualmark
  
  This is one thing I think the Government (any Government) gets unfairly treated on.
  
  If Charlotte Bellis, or any other person, wants to make a public argument about how she’s been treated by the Government then I think the Government should be allowed to argue its case.
  
  If you want to have the media put your side of the story out there then the other side (in these cases the Government) should be allowed to put its side out there too.
  
  My experience is this most often happens with sob-stories in the media about how some beneficiary has been poorly treated by MSD or Kainga Ora or similar. In those cases I’d like to be able to get the other side about whether said beneficiary has honoured their side of the social contract.
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:24am
tknorriss

To the Russian apologists I have seen commenting here:

The Russians are behaving like barbaric psychopaths.

They have just bombed a maternity hospital in Mariupol:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/09/europe/russia-invasion-ukraine-evacuations-03-09-intl/index.html

They have admitted using thermobaric weapons,

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-thermobaric-weapons-confirmed-ukraine/31745182.html

And now there is the real possibility that they could decide to use chemical weapons:

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-west-has-serious-concern-putin-could-unleash-chemical-weapons-on-kyiv-12561783

What a bunch of absolute animals the Russian military are.
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March 10, 2022 11:05am
- kowtow
  
  Some 44 % of the pop in Maruipol is ethnic Russian .
  
  Bombing the very people he claims to be liberating from the Ukrainians .
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:49am
- nathie
  
  Yep some new “Kiwi” bloke turned up here yesterday and implied that civilian deaths were no big deal.
  
  Totally abhorrent … no real Kiwi would ever say that!
  
  But a troll would (be that “Russian” or worse, a leftie activist (or leftie investigative reporter) trying to get KB commentators to agree with him so that they can be shown up as supporters of genocide.
  
  There is much more coverage of civilian deaths on overseas news sites which makes for depressing reading (perhaps best avoided).
  
  [We see commenter details and such, it was actually a real person and not a bot or troll or journo – Mod]
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:57am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Mod – that’s even more depressing
    [ Mod : do we have to remind you that mods are not part of any debate and attempts to involve them may lead to a holiday. Go to another blog and moan about the KB mods if you like ]
    
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    March 10, 2022 7:31pm
  - nathie
    
    Oh, thanks for that Mod and apologies to you Overseas Kiwi!
    
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    March 10, 2022 9:24pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xKoPNAb8IV8/
Biolabs in Ukraine?
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; hat my friends, was an absolute bombshell dropped on Capitol Hill! We’re going to look at the bombshell testimony on Capitol Hill yesterday, we’re going to see how the permanent political class is scrambling to talk their way out of this, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal what the admission of Biolabs in Ukraine all really means. [10:34]
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March 10, 2022 11:10am
- tknorriss
  
  “Biological Research Facilites” in the testimony.
  
  We have those in NZ as well. So we are creating biological weapons now?
  
  And at the end, Nuland said it was classic strategy from the Russians to claim the other guy was doing it, so we can too. So, perhaps warning that bio-research facilities could be masqueraded as biological weapons facility.
  
  I imagine any pic in a bio-facility, whatever it was for, would look impressive if people were there in bio-hazard suits or whatever.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:30pm
- tknorriss
  
  According to this fact-check website, any biolabs were to detect and research biological threats, not cause them.
  
  https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32478V9
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:16pm
curry4me

US Threatens India with Sanctions as the Globalist Order Crumbles!

The United States is threatening India with SANCTIONS all as the Globalist Order CRUMBLES! In this video, we’re going to look at the latest threats against India coming out of DC, we’re going to see why the Bumblin’ Biden regime is targeting India, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal why such threats against India are only revealing nothing less than the end of the globalist order as we’ve known it
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March 10, 2022 11:11am
Warren

While I feel sorry for the legitimate families across New Zealand struggling with putting food on the table for there families and the basics as costs rise I ask this question why don’t they leave the alcohol on the shelves and use that money to buy the food they need.
To many of the parents today think of themselves before there children when grocery shopping and you might think I am being to harsh by saying this.
My wife works in a large Supermarket in a district of lower income people that often come up short of money when at the checkout for what they have purchased but always put food back instead of alcohol, so really they only have themselves to blame.
Food to feed your family should always come first before smokes and alcohol.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/cant-afford-a-2-sausage-families-across-new-zealand-struggle-with-basics-as-costs-rise/WFZQTLB3XNKM452B7LHV2BVL7U/
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March 10, 2022 11:13am
- cmm
  
  Well that’s the expected outcome of nanny statism.
  
  Why feed the kids? Cindy gives them lunch at school.
  
  Cindy doesn’t hand out smokes and booze. When she does then maybe things will change back again.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:43pm
- Phronesis
  
  No free alcohol and tobacco down at the food bank.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:50pm
- MCōs
  
  Your wife clearly doesn’t work at Pak n Save, Mangere when we are there.
  I’ve not noticed anyone in front of us at the checkout holding everyone up while they sort through their stuff to see what they can discard.
  I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. Just that it must be rare.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:59pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think you will find there’s lots of poor NZers who can’t get to the big supermarkets – they don’t have cars and public transport doesn’t go near their houses…
    
    A real problem in cold, wet, windy, hilly wellington when you can only afford to live in out-of the way places miles from cheap shops.
    
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    March 10, 2022 4:49pm
Lee C

Live from Wellington – about court cases post-protest.
https://www.facebook.com/ChantelleBakerNZ/videos/691616405354655
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March 10, 2022 11:23am
Jack5

More reports are emerging of the nickel storm on the London Metals Exchange, whose latest episode is a ban until at least Friday on trading all nickel contracts, and on publishing their official and closing prices.

The ban came after the exchange’s nickel market was caught in an epic “short squeeze,” with prices more than doubling.

The Chinese tycoon caught in the short squeeze, Xiang Guangda, known as “Big Shot” in commodities circles, controls the world’s largest stainless steel and nickel producer — Tsingshan Holding Group.

He faces losses worth of $US8 billion amid the huge upswing in nickel’s price. His short position reportedly totalled around 100,000 tons of nickel, and he had built up a large short position in nickel futures. While it lasts, the exchange’s trading halt stops losses on exchange-traded contracts from rising further.

Russia is one of the world’s three top producers of nickel, with Indonesia, and the Philippines. New Caledonia is also a large producer. World demand for nickel in 2022 is expected to top three million tons. Nickel is a component of stainless steel, and is widely used in batteries.

Big American banks, including JPMorgan Chase and China Construction Bank have offered credit lines to Tsinghan to meet margin calls, and the Chinese Government has directed Chinese banks to help.

Here’s Investopedia’s definition of short selling:

In short selling, a position is opened by borrowing shares of a stock or other asset that the investor believes will decrease in value. The investor then sells these borrowed shares to buyers willing to pay the market price. Before the borrowed shares must be returned, the trader is betting that the price will continue to decline and they can purchase them at a lower cost. The risk of loss on a short sale is theoretically unlimited since the price of any asset can climb to infinity.

Financial commentators are calling the nickel position the “mother of all short squeezes”.
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March 10, 2022 11:34am
- Jack5
  
  China Construction Bank is one of China’s four biggest banks, though Bank of America took a 9 per cent minority stake in 2005. Last year, China Construction Bank’s assets totalled $US4.3 trillion. It has 15,000 branches.
  
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  March 10, 2022 11:45am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Yep Jack, its a doozy! And old “Big Shot” may just find himself shortened to “Shot”.
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:05pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Interesting that Chinese banks have been directed to bail him out. I wouldn’t be too happy if I was on the other side of the trade. Whatever happened to caveat emptor?
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:38pm
Prince

“NZ has one of the highest minimum wage rates in the world”.
Oh thank you Jacinda and Grant.

“NZ has some of the highest grocery prices in the world”.
Oh why ? How can this be ? It’s not fair. The Govt must step in.
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March 10, 2022 11:50am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Are many grocery store employees on minimum wage?
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:53pm
  - Inandout
    
    info: yes many are and each wage rise increases prices accordingly, rather like the dog chasing its tail. I presume though supermarket workers get the choicest fruit and veg before it goes on sale and they must get staff discount on grocery items.
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:31pm
    - Warren
      
      Yes many young people are on minimum wage so getting over $ 21.00 a hour when it changes will help but I know people that have worked for countdown for over 20 years that are on a very good hourly rate, they also get a bonus every 5 years to match their service. They also get 5% discount all year round with 10% for a month over the Xmas period, like all firms if you want to improve you have the chance to work yourself to head office and you would be surprised how they look after those that want to climb the ladder.
      
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      March 10, 2022 3:42pm
CAKE FACE1

Poor old Cindy. I suspect that she will fall from being the most popular PM in our history, to the most hated, in just three years.

The government wasted all the country’s reserves on the Covid cold cult. This cruel hoax cost New Zealand the 2nd to most per capita in the OECD (only the USA was higher). Of course, the USA can afford it – we can’t. There is now nothing to show for this massive government spending. Absolutely nothing. Never, in our history, has so much been wasted so quickly.

Now, we need our reserves for a real economic crisis, but the cupboards are bare. It’s all been wasted by Cindy, on her idiotic lockdowns.

Inflation and interest rates are going to continue to rise. A property crash appears likely. Business failures will rise remorselessly.

Indeed, business has been completely and utterly vandalised by the government for two years. Expect business closures near you. People’s life work has been sabotaged by Cindy and Co, in a sustained campaign of government vandalism, burning the economy to the ground.

Winter should be fascinating. Economic disaster is coming.

The fact that we have another eighteen months with this clown show is of the utmost concern.

Let’s hope National winning the next election isn’t simply a pyrrhic victory…
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March 10, 2022 12:20pm
- rockape
  
  I have never been more pleased that 12 years. Ago I bought 5 acres and built a house on it. We have a beefie to kill every year, chickens ,ducks ,avo bushes, all the fruit and veg and berries I could want. I barter for firewood and milk. The latter my wife turns into a variety of cheeses. About all I buy at the supermarket are leaning products, flour and wine so nearly self sufficient. I raisetwoarchersfingerstoinflationandthisgovernme;t . Yes it takes a fair bit of work but that’s what retirement is for isn’t it?
  
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  March 10, 2022 4:52pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    When we took out a mortgage on our first home (doer-upper’s dream!!), I remember telling my old man that now we were safe and had a secure base from which we couldn’t be shunted (from a fickle landlord).
    
    My old Dad quickly disabused me of such a foolish notion..
    
    “Lassie, if the government wants your house, they’ll take it.”
    
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    March 10, 2022 5:01pm
oldfella

The always excellent Karl du Fresne, doesn’t hold back with his take on 3 Waters.
From disgrace to sham to travesty and back again – that pretty much sums up the Three Waters project so far. (I won’t use the government’s preferred term “reform”, because reform means a change for the better.)
http://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2022/03/pssst-dont-mention-iwi.html
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March 10, 2022 12:28pm
- oldfella
  
  I’d no sooner posted the du Fresne piece on 3 Waters when this popped up. And it’s brutal.
  Bryce Edwards: Political Roundup – Can Three Waters be salvaged, or will Nanaia Mahuta have to go?
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/bryce-edwards-political-roundup-can-three-waters-be-salvaged-or-will-nanaia-mahuta-have-to-go/CALGH4AB2RSRS63YLOKA7UQZM4/
  The hits just keep coming.
  
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  March 10, 2022 12:53pm
  - Nickc2
    
    I’d love to see Nanaia Mahuta go (where to, I don’t give a …….), just so long as she goes and I don’t care how many of her Maori Caucus walk out with her.
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:05pm
  - Warren
    
    Yes oldfella but like most Journalist’s these two run with the hares and hunt with the hounds.
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:10pm
CAKE FACE1

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” [Nietzsche]

The economic vandalism over the past two years has been incredibly extensive. Now we have a perfect storm.

It is amazing to think that one case of the flu resulted in a more than three-month lockdown for Auckland. Historians will scratch their heads. How was this allowed to happen?

It happened because of mass hysteria. The situation was analogous to Cindy screaming “Fire!” in a crowded cinema. Everyone lost their minds, in a panic. Otherwise rational, normal people went crazy – for two long years!

The people have been played, duped, tricked, conned, hoodwinked, scammed and deceived. Only now are they snapping out of it.

There will be blowback. When people realise that they have been duped, they will be angry.

Nobody likes being the victim of a cruel hoax. Expect Cindy’s poll ratings to continue to collapse.
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March 10, 2022 12:41pm
- Lee C
  
  watch this:
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/3qqG7TOChsWE/?fbclid=IwAR38K6hRlXmL5Dltc5hvQU8v8ILNgmhCiSdm8iKdUYrF5IWI1j-RXnQaN2M
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:43pm
Surely Knott

No vax pass needed. I can book an eye test. It is indoors and close contact. But not a haircut.

Have they kept any stats on the percentage of optometerists who have caught covid (without the pass) and the percentage of hairdressers with covid (with the pass) .

Given this is a workplace health and safety measure imposed by the government shouldn’t they be keeping this data and publishing it.

Also worksafe guidelines on what is high risk and what is not. The guidelines for high risk environments as defined by worksafe are indoors less than 100m, close contact conversations for more than 15 minutes.

So why are outdoor seating at a cafe and mountain bike parks closed to the unvaccinated, when by worksafes own definition these are low risk. And if outside is low risk why can’t the hairdresser cut the kids hair in her outdoor courtyard.

Is it legal for the government to mandate places that by it’s own definition are low risk. And yet places that are high risk, small indoor retail is open without a pass.
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March 10, 2022 12:48pm
- krazykiwi
  
  No matter the congruencies, the entire construct is an immoral withdrawal of civil liberties by a government that is out of control. I blame Schwab and his evil cabinet ‘plants’ of which Ardern is one. We need individual sovereignty wrestled back from a totalitarian state, and we need state sovereignty wrestled back from supra-national organisations like WEF, UN, CDC et al.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:18pm
  - Littletramp
    
    Sandra Goudie, mayor of Thames has been “accused” of speaking to an anti vaccination group (NZ Herald reports).
    Since when has it been a crime to speak to any group about anything you choose?
    Oh, since the Labour party gained an electoral majority.
    
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    March 10, 2022 1:55pm
- Inandout
  
  SK, you can also visit the dentist passless. As far as eateries are concerned my next long trip will involve service station food and coffee, followed by a walk in the park. The food is comparable with cafes and much quicker to access. I really find showing the vax pass and age to some kid behind a cafe counter is counter to my beliefs on human rights.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:41pm
Tony Stuart

Daily Fuel Watch update:

2/3/22 – $2.929
3/3/22 – $2.979
8/3/22 – $3.169
9/3/22 – $3.219
10/3/22 – $3.279

This is based on the non-discounted pump price of 91 Unleaded at BP Connect, London Street, Whanganui. The price has increased by $0.35 (12%) in eight days.
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March 10, 2022 1:23pm
- surfing
  
  We are heading towards massive economic shock…the likes of which only the older people among us have seen.
  
  Time to buy up gold.
  
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  March 10, 2022 1:45pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    The inflation was in the 80’s and you would have to have been born in about 1970 to be aware of what it did.
    
    Jacinda is 41 and wouldnt know and Robbo is 50 so might know a bit.
    
    How these numpties would handle it I dont know.
    
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    March 10, 2022 4:46pm
Lee C

Hey everybody!

Have you heard of ‘Natural Immunity’?

No, really. it’s thing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3qqG7TOChsWE/?fbclid=IwAR38K6hRlXmL5Dltc5hvQU8v8ILNgmhCiSdm8iKdUYrF5IWI1j-RXnQaN2M

But Pfizer rejected anyone with it from their studies of their ‘safe and effective’ ‘vaccine’.

Therefore ‘allowing children to die’.
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March 10, 2022 1:37pm
- Inandout
  
  Lee, Russ Brand (ignore the Jacinda type arm waves) discusses natural immunity.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBw1csl4tk4
  
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  March 10, 2022 2:06pm
Maggie Pie

Re-tweeted….. from you know who

PUTIN IS LOSING IT. Vlad maintains “…..he had no idea that Conscripts had been sent to Ukraine and he had instructed the Armed Forces NOT to involve conscripts”

https://twitter.com/Tressa41018499/status/1501645792016310275
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March 10, 2022 1:38pm
Yvette

Trojan horses Hoiho Torotiana –
NZ On Air welcomes strengthening of public media
… Today’s announcement deals in the main with the new entity noting that it will subsume RNZ and TVNZ (but with the brands and services retained), will be editorially independent, governed by a charter, supported by commercial revenue and receive baseline funding through Manatū Taonga.

Manatū Taonga is the Ministry for Culture and Heritage.
Many here have feared the infamous $55 million was to fund pro-Government propaganda.
In fact it has been, and more so will be, to facilitate pro-Māori ~~propaganda~~ culture and Te Ao Māori.
Health Sector, Climate Change Commission, 3 Waters.
Watch it happen – some more
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March 10, 2022 1:39pm
Yvette

Former Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters is pointing blame at Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern for the uprising at Parliament due to her “refusal to engage”.

But the Prime Minister said on Thursday the blame sat “squarely” with the protesters “who threw the LPG canisters onto the fire, with those who threw bricks at police, who chose to act in that violent way”.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-points-finger-squarely-at-protesters-for-uprising-after-winston-peters-blames-her-refusal-to-engage.html

Winston and Ardern – silly buggers – are discussing the end-game, not the beginning.
With hindsight of 20-20 vision, it was possible that if Ardern, when just enough protesters had arrived (so nothing like the bulk of them), had been accompanied by security to front those gathered and said that if they would organise a delegation of ten, they would be met inside Parliament Buildings to present their points of contention, which would then be considered, later arrivals would have demanded Ardern’s appearance, and those there first would have had to say “She’s done that, already”

Arden screwed up there, and Winston did back in late 2017
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March 10, 2022 1:41pm
I remember when

Melanie Phillips, a Conservative British Journalist:
Steer Education company study, found a rise in “unhealthy perfectionism and extreme self-control”, in a study of 15,000 secondary school pupils.
Among secondary shoolgirls, 80% exhibited these traits compared with only 20% before covid-19.
Other studies:
The Prince’s Trust said last week that one in five young people thought their prospects wouldn’t improve from the pandemic’s impact, with almost half saying they felt “burnt out” or experienced self-loathing.
In her 2018 book about young Americans born after 1995, Jean Twenge said “they were both the physically safest generation and the most mentally fragile.”

Message!?
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March 10, 2022 1:52pm
Show me the evidence

Well, for those of you that are interested in actual data and science rather than government rhetoric, the first of the Pfizer documents have been released showing the some of the documents that were given to FDA and presumably all our regulatory authorities around the world. FDA were taken to court in order to force them to start releasing the information at a much faster rate so it wouldn’t take 55 years which is what they wanted. Essentially they didn’t want the public to see this. We now have proof that Pfizer and FDA (and Pharmac/Medsafe) knew that there were going to be significant numbers of people injured from the vaccines. Although it is true we don’t know the rates because they have redacted the number of injections so we can’t work out the rate, but they seem high for a 3 month period from 1 Dec 2020 to 28 Feb 2021. You have to wonder why it is redacted if they have nothing to hide.
It may have been acceptable with a risk-benefit analysis for Delta, I am not so stupid as to be unaware that you may have to lose some to save some people. However, where there is risk, there should have been choice (not mandates). Also, Omicron completely changes the situation. I can’t wait for the law suits from vax injured to start here, they have already begun in the US. That is worth donating to. Links below are to Dr John Campbell going over the main gist of what the documents show, with links to the documents themselves. He is Boosted and has been pro-vax throughout the last year, but watching the realisation that he was misled by the government that they were “safe and effective” is quite sad.
https://youtu.be/7YOD9drZasM
For those of you who assume this is fake news, please check it out before making that accusation.
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March 10, 2022 2:00pm
- Show me the evidence
  
  Sorry above should read 75 years not 55 years.
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:04pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Worldometer says 0.08% of world had received a vaccine dose by 28Feb’21 (not all pfizer). So around 6 million. 1220 deaths in these Pfiser document. = more than 1 in 5000?
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:36pm
Lee C

This just in:
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2020/03/support-stuffs-journalism/?utm_supportprogramme=webpopupv2
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March 10, 2022 2:16pm
- Nickc2
  
  Why would ya bother?
  
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  March 10, 2022 4:16pm
Show me the evidence

Also, for those of you who think ADE is “Fake News” there are many papers but I’ll just link to one for your reading pleasure:

https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext
Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination?
I know this refers to Delta, but it makes no difference as I understand, in fact it’s probably a greater concern for Omicron being even more different from original Wuhan.
I am over people accusing myself and others who base our knowledge on actual science telling us we are just basing what we say on “Fake news” and anecdotal reports and conspiracy theories. So now I’m going to start showing you why I have come to the conclusions I have come to. It ain’t Facebook because Big Tech (Google, YouTube, Twitter etc) labels anything that paints the vaccines in a bad light as “misinformation”. It’s called the Trusted News Initiative and all of them and MSM signed up to it in 2020 just before the vaccines were released.
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March 10, 2022 2:42pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Dear

Our Leaders know nothing…
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2203/S00075/hipkins-bloomfield-cant-answer-basic-questions.htm

but try and stay out hospitals, folks…
they are full of bugs:

There have been several outbreaks in hospital wards, which can contribute to COVID-19 hospitalisation numbers. For some of these cases, they contracted COVID-19 from an exposure in hospital. For this reason, hospitals are now routinely screening all patients being admitted.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/the-actual-number-of-covid-19-deaths-revealed-as-government-changes-reporting-approach.html
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March 10, 2022 2:44pm
Maggie Pie

We used to have someone just like Marja in our ‘Y10 Dorm’ at boarding school.
I can remember one of the girls weeing in her Listerine bottle 😀

https://twitter.com/MarjaLubeck/status/1501478195786575875
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March 10, 2022 2:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How many Covid Deaths in NZ during the last 2 years?

Bloomfield now tells us it is 34.

The number of deaths clearly caused by COVID-19 is 34, Director-General of Health Ashley Bloomfield has revealed, as the Government changes its “reporting approach”.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/the-actual-number-of-covid-19-deaths-revealed-as-government-changes-reporting-approach.html

Someone has been bullshitting us for 2 years.

Is this change in numbers to save Our Dear PM from the surge in numbers of Covid +ve deaths as winter arrives…

or is it a recognition that the Government has been running an alarmist campaign for 2 years?
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March 10, 2022 2:52pm
- Show me the evidence
  
  And for context apparently the average number of deaths per day in NZ is about 80 per DAY (around 29000 per annum).
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:08pm
- graham
  
  It seems that finally, we are starting to get a little more context around some of the figures also – but damn they’re reluctant to yield. Only taken two years …
  
  The Ministry of Health reported nine deaths on Thursday, one at North Shore Hospital on Wednesday. The remaining eight all died in the past fortnight: four in late February and four in March.
  
  Seven of the deaths were in Auckland and one in Waikato. One was in their 60s; three in their 70s; two in their 80s; one in their 90s and one over 100 years of age.
  
  Given the average life expectancy at birth for the population as a whole is around 80 years for males, and 83.5 years for females, over half of those deaths could probably be said to be not exactly unexpected. If we knew whether they were Maori, we might be able to say seven of the eight deaths are no more or less than the average.
  
  Why are they so reluctant to just be open, honest, and transparent?
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:11pm
- kowtow
  
  This business with the covid “death” reporting has a very foreign feel to it .
  
  Lots an’ lotsa misinformation and disinformation going ’round , from the govt , its agents and its Media pardy .
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:21pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Yuhuh. Little bits of truth and clarification coming out, confirming what we already knew from implication we already could see for any paying real attention.
  NZ just catching up with the rest of the world again, just like the ‘Covid hospitalisation’ numbers, which turn out to have little valid meaning.
  Overseas media has already been covering such things, and I look forward to the narrative changing, for those that are open to it.
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:22pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Well the long COVID articles are running thick & fast…
  
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  March 10, 2022 6:18pm
Maggie Pie

Like my partner just said…

“There’s nothing else for it. We’re gonna have to start siphoning it.”

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1501732979563020292
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March 10, 2022 3:15pm
- kowtow
  
  Yep , the Feral Classes will start their “drive offs” again.
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:20pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Well, at least Grant gets to eat well.
  They say to never trust a skinny chef, but is the same true for a finance minister, minister of justice, or minister of housing?
  
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  March 10, 2022 3:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I’d rather trust a finance minister who has had a track record of running a successful business or who has had a successful career in the real world, than one who has never held a job away from his political props.
    
    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/minister/biography/grant-robertson
    
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    March 10, 2022 6:17pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Although my partner’s mum was saying Robbo’s father was a highly-regarded Accountant in his day and an advocate for the redistribution of wealth.
      So maybe it runs in the family.
      
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      March 10, 2022 7:12pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        My understanding is that Robbo’s Father redirected
        a Law Company’s money rather than redistributing it.
        
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        March 10, 2022 7:26pm
    - MCōs
      
      Who did you have in mind?
      
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      March 10, 2022 9:18pm
krazykiwi

Concerts. It’s been a while. Just booked to go to the Foo Fighters in December. Dave Grohl is a genius musician, songwriter and – if you seen his music videos – a comedian. Learning To Fly and Long Road to Ruin are laugh out loud, with awesome music. The Pretender shows overly aggressive riot police getting given a serve.
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March 10, 2022 3:20pm
- Michael J Baker
  
  Vaxx-pass? Are you taking the risk?
  From their T&Cs: “As the promoter, Frontier must consider stipulations from the Government, Ministry of Health, Artists and Venues in determining the COVID Safe measures for each Event. These requirements may include, but not limited to, proof of vaccination, QR code check-in, mask wearing and/or other measures. You will need to comply with these requirements in order to attend Frontier’s events and will be kept up to date with developments in the lead-up to the tour.”
  
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  March 10, 2022 4:58pm
- All_on_Red
  
  I like them too.
  Here is a rather charming clip where Grohl invites an 11yo boy on stage to play his guitar and they all play ……Metallica.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z3lBvzNsXo
  
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  March 10, 2022 5:06pm
Maggie Pie

And from the…. “you couldn’t make this sh*t up file”

‘An email from Police to Gloriavale’s Overseeing Sheppard Howard Temple, revealed a list of places where harmful sexual behaviour between young boys occurred…and included:
an old car down by the creek, the henhouse, underneath the stage in the main area, all communal toilets & bathrooms, the piggery, the old moss shed, a sidewalk beside the engineering workshop, inside the plastic dinosaur in the dining room”

– stuff (Mar 10. 2022)

Sweet Cheeses….they walk among us 🙁
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March 10, 2022 4:01pm
- skyblue
  
  Sounds like the local marae to me.
  
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  March 10, 2022 6:10pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Must admit that under the stage was the meeting place for the pash of the day in my boarding school days….. (but adults weren’t involved).
  
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  March 10, 2022 6:21pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Got to do it in a Hay Barn a couple of times with a guy from Marist…..
    His parents had a farm. Drew the line at the Hen House tho.
    
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    March 10, 2022 6:33pm
    - Jimmy Brown
      
      That was me. Dont overrate yourself.
      
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      March 10, 2022 7:57pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        ME overrate myself?
        Remember how you got all shirty when I kept asking “are u in yet”. LOL!!
        
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        March 10, 2022 8:37pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘Inside the plastic dinosaur’?
  
  These people are creationists.
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:54pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    March 10, 2022 8:39pm
Warren

Oh tonight on One News after Jacinda discussed the poll results , but Chris Luxon is giving tax cut that only the rich will profit from . Well Jacinda Ardern the tax cuts he’s talking about is rolling back your wasteful spending that is helping no one except the Labour Party.So if want to cry foul about the National Leader think about your crooked media spend to keep the on your side and your up and coming merger with TV One and RNZ that you hope will give you a advantage for the 2023 Election
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March 10, 2022 6:24pm
- Warren
  
  Asked by Jessica Mutch McKay what her thoughts on the poll was Jacinda Ardern reply was I’m interested in the people not the poll.
  
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  March 10, 2022 6:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Jacinda Ardern is on a downward slide and looks like she’s heading for a nasty crunch.
    
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    March 10, 2022 7:30pm
    - Warren
      
      Martin Bradbury is not happy.
      
      https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/03/10/breaking-tvnz-poll-national-beats-labour/
      
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      March 10, 2022 7:35pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    It’s Barbie’s 63rd birthday today
    
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    March 10, 2022 7:36pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Only 2 years until Super!
      
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      March 10, 2022 7:55pm
  - Biscuit
    
    I really want One Ewes to run a poll that asks:
    
    (1) Who did you vote for in 2020?
    (2) Who do you propose voting for in 2023?
    If (2) is different to (1), why have you switched allegiances?
    
    It’d be even better if the poll asked specific questions too as regards folks’ updated opinions on the value (to them) of, oh, the Health system, the Police, the Media, the lockdown(s), the trustworthiness of the daily Covid pronouncements, the brownification of New Zealand via such things as Three Waters, Government efforts to alleviate the cost-of-living crisis…
    
    Won’t happen, of course, but it was interesting watching Jessica tonight adopting an almost NEUTRAL position re the latest poll results…
    
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    March 10, 2022 7:41pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      Call up Curia. Tell them you care enough that you will pay for the poll …..
      
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      March 10, 2022 8:01pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Ian, I know what the responses will be…
        
        But I want Jacinda to NOT be able to say ‘I’m listening to the people’ when Jess points out that, quite clearly, she isn’t…
        
        And exactly why a presso can’t ask ‘How is your internal polling going, Prime Minister?’ is beyond me…
        
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        March 10, 2022 8:29pm
- ecco
  
  Ardern said there will be some big announcements in April that will benefit 60% of families. Get ready for more social welfare benefits/election bribes. This woman only knows redistribution strategy, tax and give out to her voter base.
  
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  March 10, 2022 7:26pm
  - Cinematic
    
    Ecco, they’ve spent it all. There’s literally nothing left to give out.
    
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    March 10, 2022 10:01pm
- jon
  
  I want Mr Luxon to promise, NO MORE STATE FUNDING OF THE MEDIA, upon the election of a National led govt in 2023! Let the media sink or swim!
  
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  March 10, 2022 8:05pm
kiwikidsnz

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/10/national-overtakes-labour-in-latest-1news-kantar-public-poll/
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March 10, 2022 7:03pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Dear PM, and all the sitting politicians and the MSM tried to convince us (the great unwashed) that only a tiny proportion of folks supported the anti-mandate protestors, but it appears they were WRONG

Voters were asked: “Do you approve or disapprove the way in which the Government handled the recent protest at Parliament?”

A slight majority (46%) said they approved of the Government’s handling; 43% said they disapproved and 11% didn’t know.

More likely than average to support it were Labour supporters, men aged 18 to 34 and Wellington region residents.

Those more likely to disapprove were ACT Party and National Party supporters, women aged 18 to 34 and Waikato residents.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/10/support-for-mandates-drops-to-60-in-latest-1news-kantar-public-poll/

It looks like our Dear PM has made a major misstep in her pandemic plan….and if the Nats have any clues they should quickly disassociate themselves from any further support for her Government’s covid response.
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March 10, 2022 8:43pm
Biscuit

I just crunched me some numbers.

Votes cast at 2020 election: 2,919,086
Votes for Labour: 1,443,546
% of vote for Labour: 49.45%

If tonight’s poll is correct and Labour now has the support of just 37% of voters, Jass has lost 363,484 voters in under 2 years…

And climbing.
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March 10, 2022 9:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Once the pixie dust has blown away, it’s difficult to fly again.
  
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