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mikenmildagain

Happy World Wetlands Day!
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February 2, 2022 8:00am
- Spam
  
  Wetlands are the world’s largest source of natural methane, so there is that.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:16am
  - Jack5
    
    Milky, with your penchant for military history, I thought you might have noticed today is the 79th anniversary of the German surrender at Stalingrad.
    
    We realise the 2nd NZ Division wasn’t there, nor even the Maori Battalion.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:25am
    - yobi
      
      I’m sure that you will find that the maori battalion was there and that their haka was instrumental in the Germans surrendering.
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:16am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I’m more likely to commemorate 75th, 80th 100th anniversaries. But go for it – there is probably always some anniversary, holiday or other milestone for you to celebrate each day of the year
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:30am
  - tavita
    
    Spam
    What I have not been able to find is a comparison of the methane production of 1 hectare of wetland with one hectare of dairy farm or one hectare of rice.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:10am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Here’s a 30-year old paper where such a calculation was done for NZ wetlands..
      
      https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03036758.1990.10426717
      
      The authors’ guesstimated NZ’s annual methane production from our remaining wetlands as being similar to that of mid-latitude rice paddies…
      between 45-110g/m2/y
      
      which equates to 450-1100 kg/ha/y.
      
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      February 2, 2022 11:09am
- Phronesis
  
  A wetland is just a bog with a marketing budget.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:18am
  - kowtow
    
    I imagine if man hadn’t drained, reclaimed and fertilised all those river plains that are so productive now we’d be living pretty miserable lives .
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:41am
    - rockape
      
      And East. Anglia , and Holland!
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:10am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You’d be paddling your waka out to some raupo reeds to snaffle some pukeko chicks for brekky.
      Dad would be skinning a big old mud eel for lunch and Mum would be tending the taro patch on the side of the creek.
      
      It would be a green paradise.
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:11am
      - Bridgenag
        
        ?
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:40am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        It is a pity that they did not have the sense to manage Moa sustainably. They would still be here today.
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:29am
      - Taieri
        
        Dad would be skinning a big old mud eel for lunch and Mum would be tending the taro patch on the side of the creek.
        ————–
        
        With a nice, juicy long pig for the Matariki dinner?
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:38am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Sustainable management is something learned by humans only after a new environment has already been extensively modified.
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:40am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ Bernard Yu
        
        It is a pity that they did not have the sense to manage Moa sustainably..
        
        or to bring chickens and piglets on the waka.
        
        (instead of Polynesian rats and dogs)
        
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        February 2, 2022 11:12am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        @ Benedict – Kentucky Fried Moa?
        
        One drumstick feeds the whole family!
        
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        February 2, 2022 2:24pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Actually the opposite,
      Nile
      Yangztee
      
      All rives generally have a flood plane. Look at what happened to Westport.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:35am
  - Jade Warrior
    
    Or in the case of Porirua City Council, a ratepayer’s budget. The PCC are currently in the process of turning a portion of Elsdon Park into an artificial wetland for reasons known only to themselves. Never mind that one of the country’s most extensive natural urban wetlands (the Taupo swamp) is already well within the city’s boundaries and is easily accessible.
    
    The whole artificial wetlands project is yet another example of a local council prioritising “nice to have” spending over essential infrastructure. Much of the water infrastructure in Porirua requires a makeover and I’d much rather they spent ratepayer money on that rather than building an artificial wetland.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:40am
- washo
  
  Let’s not forget the swamps.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:45am
- tknorriss
  
  Groundhog day all over again in the US as well.
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:52pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The imported monoculture of mangroves destroying our northern harbours and estuaries salutes you. And especially the deluded enviro-freaks that tried to sell them as beneficial.
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:57pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Imported?
    
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    February 2, 2022 4:37pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      They imported themselves from Oz about 15,000 years ago after the last ice age.
      
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      February 3, 2022 9:42am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    imported
    
    Mangroves were growing all around the East Coast of NZ to at at least Wairoa 10,000 years ago.
    
    Early to Mid Holocene pollen samples containing mangrove pollen from Sponge Bay, East Coast, North Island, New Zealand
    
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03014223.1994.9517466
    
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0028825X.2001.9512754
    
    As sea levels rose the poor beasties have become restricted to north of Opotiki…. but they found their own way there.
    
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    February 2, 2022 5:12pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Yep, drifted from Oz. Hideous destructive weed. Have spread as the climate warmed. We have sandy shelfish middens a couple of centuries old now smothered in mangrove mud.
      
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      February 3, 2022 9:45am
Tony Stuart

Another hugely successful outcome for our wonderful Government:

Just eight teachers have arrived in New Zealand under a border exception class that was meant to get 300 teachers into the country – seven months after it was announced.
Employers say it’s too costly and confusing to get overseas teachers through the approval process, even before the new recruits have to battle for an MIQ spot.

Meanwhile more than 800 teaching vacancies are being advertised across the country, with half of them in the early learning sector, which has a dire staffing shortage.

A teacher’s union says most services can’t afford to recruit from overseas through the border exception process.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/border-exception-scheme-for-300-teachers-has-let-just-eight-educators-into-new-zealand/V3YWZ3ONPKXS3U44Z5WC3CPTPA/

But wait; that’s not the worst of it! As of 31 January, they’ve only had 156 applications for the 300 places. That suggests that New Zealand’s reputation as a fortress that even New Zealanders can’t get into has spread around the world.

Will the PM’s announcement tomorrow, foreshadowed in an announcement of the announcement yesterday by Grant Robertson, finally open the doors to returning New Zealanders and those from overseas? I’m not holding my breath!
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February 2, 2022 8:01am
- Frank the tank
  
  Tony – the announcement with come with LOTS of caveats and conditions and don’t be surprised if there is a “temporary halt’ again during the height of the omnishambles outbreak (say March)
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:11am
- cmm
  
  KiwiTeacher!
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:43am
- artemisia
  
  ECE teacher shortages have a real flow on effect. If centres have to reduce child numbers, working parents need to find other options. Somewhere or nowhere.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:20am
  - bronny1
    
    Omg they might have to use in home child care run on the black market by unvaccinated untaxable teachers who were recently fired!
    
    No, definitely better for you kid to stare at four walls while you do a half arsed job of working from home.
    
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    February 2, 2022 1:09pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  I understand that MBIE are pressing to open the border in time for semester 2 to allow the international students in. MIQ will go. I suspect the Government may well lose the upcoming Court case as the law and international laws dont contain an exemption for Covid. They werent written to allow this. Governments are required to allow passport holders to leave and enter without let or hindrance and MIQ is a let or hindrance. The Court will rule thus.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:27am
  - Overworked
    
    It would be nice to think that is how it will work. But how many of the judges involved might be members of the Cindy Fangirls Club?
    
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    February 2, 2022 5:16pm
- RoboRob
  
  Thursdays announcement will annouce fuller detail in next weeks announcement.
  
  Thursdays announcement only exists due to polling and the media mess caused by the pregnant reporter. They will be (as normal) scrambling to work out what the new policy is.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:50am
- Bloody Dago
  
  Economic suffocation is what’s happening here and MIQ is the pillow. You might have to hold your breath for a bit longer TS!
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:17am
- Master Mariner
  
  Tony,
  When are people going to wake up and realise, No one is interested in Coming here in all manners of professions that we are short off.
  I’m surprised there were that many, Next thing is the
  level of applications that made that number up? New round of fraudulent qualifications?
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:39am
- tui47
  
  Another day, another Labour disaster.
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:09pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Neve does not yet require school enrolment, so the issue is not on Jacinda’s radar
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:25pm
- Jim
  
  If they’re foreign skilled migrants, don’t expect them all to stay more than 24 months. I would expect 75% attrition due to the normal cultural and distance challenges with migration, but add vaccine passports, mandates and border controls and many will find settling here far too emotionally challenging.
  
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  February 2, 2022 7:08pm
Maggie's partner

There is a big issue looming: when your vax pass expires, what happens next?

Do you revert to being fully unvaxxed? Or is there some partial vaxxed status with limited freedoms?
Is this a stealth mandate for the booster?

Those are the questions I would be asking Cindy, day in day out, until we get an answer for the record.
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February 2, 2022 8:08am
- Simon
  
  “when your vax pass expires, what happens next?”
  
  lol – the vax pass was useless as means to handle the covid before you downloaded it. Your vax pass was expired as soon as you got it.
  
  Your question is one about religion. A question about faith being tested.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:29am
  - Observer of Life
    
    How can they take our vaccine pass without having to replace it with something else so those who are doing the checking can see who has a current “new” style and who has an invalid “old” style? Here’s an idea… How about we just dump the whole stupid idea and be done with it.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:31pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  They wouldn’t have even thought about that yet. Planning is not their strong suit.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:35am
  - Jim
    
    Hipkins said today he’s not made a decision on what happens after 01 June but considers it likely the booster will be required to extend the vaccine pass.
    
    Sorry WTF was that! This tyrannical government had better be prepared to show me the science, and not some patronising cartoon bro!
    
    The crazy thing is based upon the 3 month efficacy, we need to be on booster 2 ( vaccine number 4) by 01 June. Are they serious! What happens 6 months after that milestone, is it vaccinations number 4,5,6,7? Is NZ now contracted as Pfizer’s trial petridish for its (under development) Omicron vaccine?
    
    BTW UK has not mandated vaccinating 5-11 year olds.
    
    If this insanity is planned here, I’m beginning to consider helping Jacinda’s housing crisis by leaving NZ for good.
    
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    February 2, 2022 6:24pm
    - andydownhere
      
      Dont go, stay and help fight to get rid of her. Without Cindy, Labour are nothing
      
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      February 2, 2022 8:09pm
      - Jim
        
        Robbo concerns me more, he is certainly up to the task of making a fist of our economic stability.
        
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        February 3, 2022 4:55am
- kowtow
  
  I’m not getting the “boost” and I reckon I can live without the services denied to the so called passport holder.
  In due course the passport requirement ,as well as all their other crazy measures will lapse , as covid becomes endemic.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:44am
  - mawm
    
    You are optimistic. I can’t see the “vaxx passport” ever going away. Have you ever seen a lefty government give up anything that they consider a gain unless at the wrong end of gun? Jacinda must have been p*ssing her pants with glee at how easily she got NZ to adopt a vaxx passport. Next – a digital currency and then social credit scores with suitable punishments for not complying. Utopia is just within reach. //s
    
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    February 2, 2022 12:07pm
    - kowtow
      
      I’ve made a conscious decision to start using cash as much as possible.
      
      If we all did it , it would really piss ’em all orf.
      
      To the barricades!
      
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      February 2, 2022 1:14pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yup pay cash – my bank account is now empty – cash is all I have.
        
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        February 2, 2022 3:49pm
      - Spenditb4theytaxit
        
        I draw out large amounts of cash and use it to pay for everything. I wish more people would do the same.
        
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        February 2, 2022 6:26pm
  - Jim
    
    I’m with you 100%, not having it. I know someone who had the booster on Monday (mandated) and they’re (uncharacteristically) still off sick with inflammation, sickness and headaches.
    
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    February 2, 2022 6:31pm
- cmm
  
  “until we get an answer for the record”
  
  … and what would that help you?
  
  She changes her mind all the time. Remember:
  * no vax mandates?
  * no coercion to get vaxxed?
  *…
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:45am
  - RightFirstTime
    
    “She changes her mind all the time. Remember.”
    * getting married?
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:50am
    - mawm
      
      No she doesn’t change her mind – she deliberately misleads.
      
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      February 2, 2022 12:09pm
  - RoboRob
    
    Dec : New traffic light system going forward
    Jan : New traffic light system that bears no relation to Dec system
    Feb : ?
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:52am
- Frank the tank
  
  Is this a stealth mandate for the booster?
  
  Of course it is. This is how socialists/communists work.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:55am
- Master Mariner
  
  Dont worry , Next month there will be 105% vaccinated.//
  Who cares about vaccine expiry?
  Its the numbers that count.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:16am
- Joely Doe
  
  The official term is ‘Insufficiently Vaccinated’.
  If you are IV, you will not be able to enter premises that require a ‘Full Vaccination’ Passport or work at your chosen profession.
  This from the latest Health Memorandum sent out by the MoH to all.
  Vacc Mandates will reduce to 3/12 and if you do not get your ‘Booster’ (let’s be real here – it is a third, fourth, or fifth shot) you will be Red Carded from locations and/or professions.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:30am
  - Clownworld
    
    The irony of the times…
    
    “I’ve seen the needle
    and the damage done
    A little part of it in everyone
    But every junkie’s
    like a settin’ sun” Mr Neil Young
    (aka male name for Karen).
    
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    February 2, 2022 11:55am
- bronny1
  
  There is a reason the legislation includes the terminology “unvaccinated or Insufficiently vaccinated”…
  
  Frankly, if you don’t need the pass for a job it’s not all that bad. There are still cafes and restaurants that serve you happily without a pass (requires a bit more planning), clubs and things can be an issue but having stood my ground my volunteer org decided not to mandate (I am apparently the only unvaxxed of 100) and my women’s sport group asked me to come back when they realised raising the VP issue for an outdoor sport was just dumb.
  
  And it will get better as more decide to cancel their Fizzer subscription.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:15pm
- I remember when
  
  Just read a funeral notice for what is obviously an unvaccinated funeral.
  (Incidentally does the deceased have to vaccinated.)
  Limited of course to twenty five so only two places remaining.
  So sometimes even the vaccinated can be punished.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:54pm
- oc35
  
  Until the right tell the media what will happen when Labour exits this won’t happen. I would withdraw all media subsidies and give away TVNZ RNZ. Sky maybe interested.
  
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  February 2, 2022 6:47pm
gonzo

so let’s get this straight.
Spark is supposed to be responding to concerns of their customers (probably tweeters) who get cheap access to Spotify through Spark, all because Spotify has Joe Rogan on their platform and is ruffling a few feathers (and I’m no particular fan of his – but who cares!?).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/joe-rogan-controversy-spark-reaches-out-to-partner-spotify/FJAKOEIPQZHXQE3WWYLYOAIRPE/

Pro-tip; If you don’t like something, don’t listen to it.
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February 2, 2022 8:08am
- Simon
  
  UST IN: Joe Rogan addresses Spotify controversy
  
  https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1488020274213576706
  
  The crime was he had on two highly qualified doctors that had a different opinion than the mainstream opinion narrative.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:35am
  - Master Mariner
    
    “The Joe Rogan Experience’ podcast and its host are hated by many, but loved by many more – and both have grown way beyond anyone’s ability to cancel”
    
    https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/547823-joe-rogan-podcaster-spotify/
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:54am
    - Russ the Muss
      
      Nope, Joe is a dead man walking. He will be cancelled, mark this page. Those wanting to whack him are just waiting for the fatal blow when someone says something beyond their pale and most likely out of context. Spotify will buckle. The question for Joe Rogan and his fans, of which I’m one. What’s plan B. We need a platform that easily accessible and does not cancel. Maybe he can create one with the help of some other like minded people?
      
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      February 2, 2022 11:29am
      - Reid
        
        gab.com
        
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        February 2, 2022 12:44pm
      - Jim
        
        You may well be right. If that ever eventuates Rogan would be an excellent catalyst for his fans to ditch YouTube and migrate (overnight) to his chosen platform of choice (gab, Odyssey etc). IMO this would be a good outcome for a freedom of speech revolution.
        
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        February 2, 2022 7:16pm
  - Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
    
    not once has there been examples of the misinformation that his detractors claim. I listened to the Dr Malone and the Epstein podcasts. Both were good listens. I’m more interested in who now owns Neil Youngs music rights.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:11am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    He interviewed people from both sides. Apparently that’s a problem now. Journalists are supposed to pick a side.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:31am
- Stellaboxer
  
  It’s an orchestrated campaign against Rogan due to his daring to allow vaccine heresy on his pod cast. Misinformation is only misinformation if it is vaccine negative as long as you’re positive towards vaccines you can spout any amount of BS, make any amount of false claims around their efficacy and even, in the case of our government, tell mothers via radio information ads that they will immunise their children which of course they’ll do nothing of the kind.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:16am
  - Jim
    
    It’s likely big pharma who would benefit most from cancelling JRE, so it’s likely that’s where the hit has been ordered from.
    
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    February 3, 2022 5:00am
- Loddenthinks
  
  gonzo, gonzo, gonzo – get real man!
  
  New pro-tip: if you don’t like something, CANCEL it so nobody else can like it, listen to it, or make up their own mind about it.
  
  Fixed it for ya 🙂
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:42am
- Harry Knuts
  
  cancel-woke-culture at it’s finest
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:59pm
Frank the tank

Oh dear oh dear – it looks like we are at at the ‘jump the shark’ moment for this government and our Dear Leader.

Her BFF in Canada appears to have lost the room with his tone deaf response to peaceful protests and thanks to a loudmouth journalist the rest of the world has come to understand the madness of our border policy.

It appears with these cultists that there is no going back and they are determined for the ‘plandemic’ to continue despite the majority of the western world accepting omnishambles for what it is.

I predicted the poor man’s Gordon Brown would be our PM by 31/12/2022 and this prediction is getting firmer by the week. Watch for endless ‘good news’ stories from the feckless for the rest of week however it appears this ship has finally sailed.
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February 2, 2022 8:09am
- Simon
  
  NZ needs bit of a lift. A booster shot in the arm so to speak. A real booster for NZ would be Ardern resigning. Very uplifting for NZ. At this point it would be another Labo leader. Though NZ could look forward no longer trapped in the covid spell that Ardern labours so hard under.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:43am
  - Frank the tank
    
    It would be delicious to see the poor man’s Gordon Brown become PM while economic stagflation takes place due to his and Orr’s vanity during the early stages of the plandemic.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:57am
    - rockape
      
      Wouldn’t it be great if that was Jacinda big announcement on Thursday. “ I have decided to retire to spend more time with my family, and start looking for a husband”
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:32am
- Jim
  
  He discredited the people as just a fringe minority, one week later, erm I’m off to the bunker. What an idiot.
  
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  February 3, 2022 5:03am
Yvette

True Lies
■ The Government announced on Tuesday there are 36 million more tests en route. They’ll go into the Government’s pool – only for critical workers and not accessible to the public.
And after a storm over stealing tests last week, the Government now says in fact no private sector orders were reassigned to the Government.
“That did not occur. Orders have been dealt with as they’ve been put in,” said Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson.
Schools want in on the order.
“Rapid antigen testing would be just amazing if we could get hold of it, absolutely,” says Queen Margaret College Principal Jayne-Ann Young.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/02/covid-19-omicron-national-leader-christopher-luxon-calls-for-border-relaxation.html

■ Bloomfield said this had happened after he talked to one of the suppliers on Sunday, and said the Government’s order should be prioritised.
“We were discussing our forward orders, and trying to get as much certainty as possible about how much of those forward orders would be delivered and the timing of those between now and the end of February,” Bloomfield said.
“During that conversation, I was asked about the orders that other New Zealand-based companies had and I was asked about whether we should prioritise the all-of-Government order. And I said yes – that should be the priority for now.”
“Businesses will be able to access the tests and we are already working with them to make sure they can access them.”
National Party Covid-19 spokesman Chris Bishop said the Government was hiding its incompetence by seizing tests from the private sector.
“That the Government has now resorted to requisitioning rapid antigen tests from the private sector is a stunning indictment of the Government’s incompetence over rapid antigen testing,” Bishop said.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300504120/covid19-nz-ashley-bloomfield-says-government-is-taking-over-incoming-orders-of-rapid-antigen-tests-but-not-seizing-them

■ Health officials are denying commandeering rapid antigen tests off of businesses.
Many companies say their orders have been cancelled or given to the Ministry of Health.
But, the Director-General of Health refutes the claim – saying the Ministry had orders in months ago too.
Dr Ashley Bloomfield says the Ministry’s been in contact with its suppliers regarding forward orders, yet to arrive, being consolidated into the Government’s stock.
He says they are trying to avoid a chaotic distribution of the rapid test kits.
Bloomfield insists the stock is there for the whole country to use, including private businesses.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/dr-ashley-bloomfield-private-rat-orders-not-cancelled-just-redirected-to-government/

Even little children know, when you tell one lie, you will often need to tell more lies –
Jacinda Ardern says the Government has “absolutely not” taken rapid antigen supplies off businesses.
When asked by a reporter about the government’s so-called commandeering of RAT stocks on Thursday morning, the Prime Minister shut down the idea. “What we have in country is what the Ministry of Health has ordered,” she said.
Bloomfield – “… says they are trying to avoid a chaotic distribution of the rapid test kits”

The kicker of course is – If Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield tells lies, as it seems above, on the 1pm (well, roughly approximately 1pm), do they tell the nation more lies?
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February 2, 2022 8:09am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is encouraging to see that not everyone swallowed the Government’s bullshit about how useless RATs would be.
  
  People are no longer believing that Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield have all the answers.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:33am
  - crikey
    
    Maggy: “ People are no longer believing that Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield have all the answers.”
    
    And are wondering whether they have any of the answers (perhaps not even knowing what the important questions are).
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:54am
    - Don Beckett
      
      I & many others never believed the lying haridan and her soy boy right from the start.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:47am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Not everyone can be honest beauties and red-blooded hunks like you and yours, Don.
        
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        February 2, 2022 11:00am
      - Don Beckett
        
        You better believe it Milkey.
        
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        February 2, 2022 5:30pm
- I remember when
  
  Remember when ‘en route’ used to mean you had started your journey.
  Not just started organising the bookings.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:35am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yep, If indeed enroute then perhaps some feckless journalist could ask for proof such as an Airway bill or Bill of Ladding.
    ie proof of “ownership”.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:18am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  “He says they are trying to avoid a chaotic distribution of the rapid test kits”.
  Probably the most laughable statement that will be made this week (though anything could happen with this lot!).
  Anyone who thinks that this Government, given its past record of abject ineptitude, is capable of doing anything that will not tend to chaos or is not chaotic, has rocks in their head.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:05am
  - crikey
    
    A story/rumour is that Foodstuffs already has a large stock of RAT kits and will be the distribution agency for them. Confirmation required.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:57am
Warren

Does anyone else find it Cynical of One News the way they have insinuated that Nationals Party Retreat in Queenstown over the holiday weekend was a bit rich because of the location.
Mikey Sherman has done nothing but whingeabout Chris Luxon and the National Party Caucus since the oppositions meeting began.
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February 2, 2022 8:10am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I would have thought Queenstown was a very appropriate location. The flights are cheap and the hospitality places could sure do with the business.
  And Rotovegas sure isn’t a desirable place any more.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:37am
  - Jimbob
    
    Anymore, Rotorua is a place to drive through. I would put it in a similar category to Wairoa. I pasted through Wairoa in the 70’s and received nothing but stares. Picked up some Fish ‘n chips and scrammed.
    Was in Rotorua in the 80’s and stayed at the Hyatt, great place for food and accommodation. However outside the hotel, a different story. I will leave it at that. Conclusion, I was not welcome.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:23am
- Manu-Rau
  
  [repeat offence, defamatory – deleted by Mod]
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:03am
- Prince
  
  It’s pathetic, but expect more of this over 2022.
  Sherman is a Leftie from way back. She fits One ‘News’ profile perfectly. A few weeks ago she gave Willie Jackson full rein to criticise National’s Maori policies with no right of reply.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:14am
- RalphT
  
  Maiki is one of those people who are only happy when they’re have a good whinge. I now tune out whenever she starts talking.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:23am
  - Bloody Dago
    
    RT – How the F you watch/listen to these grotesque individuals is time you will never get back. Give them total exclusion from your life.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:42am
- Paulus
  
  I thik Sherman only got appointed Jessie’s Deputy because…………………………………….
  And she is a consumate left wing candidate who only slates anything to do with the National Party and its new Leader which is why she got the job as well.
  Does not appear very clever either.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:28am
- Biscuit
  
  Warren, and I just wonder what level of accommodation Mikey and her crew were in for her stay.
  
  $60 a night hostel?
  $150 a night motel?
  $500 a night hotel?
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:40am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Typical, though ever-more desperate attempted hit-jobs abound, e.g. trying to call out Luxon on the number of RATs needed to test every school-child twice a week, without anything other than “that’s a big number, they’d run out within weeks”; references to getting “a pep talk” from Steve Hansen and also calling on George Osborne using that pejorative term “Tories”.
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:48am
- Harry Knuts
  
  it sure was… i watched that segment last night and concluded the biased cynical tone by the reporter. shouldn’t they instead be saying – good on em’ for supporting a destination that desperately needs the spending $$’s? it’s clear that Mikey is clearly a labour-lover. i thought journo’s were supposed to be fair, neutral and just reporting the facts/news?? clearly i was wrong.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:05pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like Pfizer has done well out of NZ

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/govt-paid-3650-per-dose-of-pfizer-vaccine

Cheap at the price, I s’pose if the vaccine has saved all our lives – but perhaps that money could have led to better outcomes if it had been spent directly on our strained health services.
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February 2, 2022 8:10am
- Cinematic
  
  A fool and their money are soon parted. In this case Labour is the fool and it’s our farkin money.
  
  I’m betting this vaccine didn’t alter the track of this pandemic one jot. It rode to the rescue when the covid was well down the evolutionary path to more infectious/less sicky.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:17am
- kevn
  
  @Maggy… Interesting. Where is the Novavax that was ordered?
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:23am
  - virtualmark
    
    Novavax *still* haven’t provided all the required information to MedSafe to get their vaccine approved. See https://medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/status-of-applications.asp
    
    It has been approved (emergency use approval) in Australia. And Serum Institute in India are now finally into full production.
    
    But I don’t expect to see any here for a few more months, if at all. It’s possible that NZ could cancel its APA on the grounds that Novavax is so late there is no longer a need for it here.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:16pm
- westernScientest
  
  Look carefully at the wording:
  
  “the Government expected to spend $36.50 per dose”
  
  It never actually says what they did pay, only what they ‘expected’ to.
  
  and then further down:
  
  ’10 million doses of Pfizer vaccine that had been directly purchased from the manufacturer would cost a total of $365 million – or $36.50 per dose’
  
  again, ‘would’ as in worked out from the expected 36.50 a dose.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:46am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Ok, Now we know the cost of vaccines ( more or less),
    Then what the hell has Billions been spent on ?
    
    Really is time for a Royal Commission.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:49am
  - virtualmark
    
    That is the cost. In fact I recalled it as $75 for a two course programme, but the exchange rate moving around could have seen the price paid drop a little.
    
    Master Mariner … remember that we have ordered 4 vaccines, each in large volumes. We will need to pay for those vaccines whether we use them or not. In practice we will probably donate the unused vaccines to Covax.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:19pm
- Master Mariner
  
  This is what alarms me the most,
  
  “However, Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins has mistakenly supplied Newsroom with three unredacted documents concerning New Zealand’s vaccine portfolio in response to an Official Information Act request.”
  
  I believe there are clauses in the contract not too mention prices?
  I wonder if this will result in Pfizer laying a claim?
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:47am
- Harry Knuts
  
  considering at the beginning of 2020 the figures bandied around other countries in the world were paying $14-16 per dose. Have we paid a premium? have we been royally shafted? Was this the price to pay for being a hermit kingdom, eg: keep our country locked down and borders closed kept out the virus mostly and when it did hit in 2021 we were the unprepared and desperate ones begging for supplies therefore paid a higher cost. Begs the question.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:12pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    USD?
    
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    February 2, 2022 2:32pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Every country is paying basically the same price. None of the vaccine manufacturers wanted to be seen to be profiteering from the pandemic so the vaccines are being sold on a “cost plus” basis. And the plus is a single digit percentage, which isn’t at all large by pharma standards.
    
    The cost though does change slightly from country to country based on things like where its sourced from, delivery costs, drug approval costs etc.
    
    At a guess I’d say the prices paid by each country will sit within a 10% band.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:21pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Price wise, a reasonable decision at the time, with the promise of efficacy that was then current.
  
  Not so much now.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:32pm
Simon

Winners and losers in Ardern’s NZ.

Winners: property owners, banks, wealthy, those with access to the Labour Party.

Losers: renters, minimum wage earners, those already in poverty. – You will own nothing and be losers.
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February 2, 2022 8:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  With the rate at which inflation is growing, you can add the middle-class to your loser group.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:35am
  - Simon
    
    The middle class will generally muddle through if they own their own home. The poor, vulnerable, the low income and those without property are getting crushed.
    
    So many have become displaced over the last few years. Untold event unfolding. This is Ardern’s NZ.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:59am
    - westernScientest
      
      how many of the middle class own their own home, rather than having a big mortgage? Do you think insurance and rates will not keep pace with inflation?
      
      There is a big squeeze coming for everyone except the elites.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:26am
- Ultima
  
  “Losers: renters, minimum wage earners, those already in poverty. ”
  
  i.e. the usual Labour voters.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:09am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  True that, Simon. Labour whine about the rich getting richer, and Labour invariably ensure it happens! Yet Labour get voted in by the very people that do the loudest whining! It is bloody marvellous!
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:54am
- Jim
  
  But everyone who has a Vacc Pass loses as we have gifted our bodily autonomy for 6 months of lockdown liberty.
  
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  February 2, 2022 6:55pm
slightlyrighty

Watched John Campbell interviewing Chris Luxon on Breakfast.

I was mightily impressed with how Luxon carried himself, and how he stopped Campbell from twisting the interview.

It’s something he said he needs to work on, and if that is the result, Mallard is going to have his hands full protecting the Government when Parliament gets back to work!
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February 2, 2022 8:13am
- emmess
  
  Wow, a politician interviewed by an actual expert
  That’s great to see
  https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellteaching
  
  Oh, that John Campbell
  Is he still working?
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:41am
Maggy Wassilieff

Welcome back to the real world, Dear PM.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/claire-trevett-covid-19-omicron-outbreak-can-pm-jacinda-ardern-put-out-the-fires-as-she-moves-on-borders-charlotte-bellis-boosters-and-rapid-antigen-tests/E4DCK5566GU5RA72SIRZVODWQA/
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February 2, 2022 8:13am
- Bloody Dago
  
  And meanwhile in the real world of energy supplies an article 6 months ago about Marsden Point Oil Refinery shutting down in mid 2022 is closing in on NZ:
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/08/new-zealand-naive-to-shut-down-its-only-oil-refinery-marsden-point-australian-analyst.html
  The real world is moving into an oil boom: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Is-Uganda-Ready-For-An-Oil-Boom.html
  This only shows that the Marsden Refinery shutdown is purely political and ideologically driven….just like Taranaki was back in 2018: https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/103037490/governments-oil-and-gas-exploration-halt-was-a-kick-in-guts-for-taranaki
  The Labour Party are sending this country down a dark rabbit hole and its not a clean green future, but a very dark dystopia.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:50am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    You are correct Dago, the Government (and the foolish Megan Woods) have their finger in that pie. And all the major oil companies are looking at NZ thinking how much they can charge for refined fuel. But hey, all those poverdy stricken and vulnerable Labour voters will be forced to buy an electric car. That they can’t afford. And that NZ doesn’t have the capacity to keep charged all the time. See the genius in Labour’s policy?
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:23am
    - Bloody Dago
      
      $4 a litre plus if exclusivity is given on importing the refined fuel. The fox looking after the chooks – we are in deep shit if this is the economic reality of no Marsden Point.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:48am
      - virtualmark
        
        ???
        
        Unless you live in Auckland you’ve been buying imported refined fuel for at least a decade. Without any complaints about differential pricing or so on.
        
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        February 2, 2022 8:23pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Meh. The same fuel companies that sell us petrol mostly own Marsden Pt. Closing it down removes a layer of costs & the ability to shuffle a bit of transfer pricing.
      
      The reality is that Marsden Pt did not refine NZ’s own oil. We’re still importing product, except that it’s refined rather than crude.
      
      The real strategic numb-nuts decision was Jacinda’s captains-call regarding new exploration permits.
      
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      February 2, 2022 2:38pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yes Indeed, The World is scrambling to secure energy supplies, Whither Coal, Oil and Gas.
    
    Renewables have become a laughing stock and showed their true energy intensive reality.. Look no further than Germany now declaring Gas as Green.
    
    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Uncomfortable-Truth-About-Green-Hydrogen.html
    
    With NZ in mind it appears to be a race to the bottom and “everyone will own nothing and be happy”.
    
    Energy security is more important to NZ than ever in History in my mind.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:57am
- Pongo
  
  Claire Trevetts advice column to her dear friend the PM, so nice to have such supportive press gallery counsellors to give you some helpful hints.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:38am
Southern Raider

We now have a form of MIQ for domestic travellers

How many kiwis are aware the MoH can now force you to stay in a travel destination in self isolation for 10 days just for being a close contact even if you test negative?

This has massive ramifications and effectively means borders now exist around all your home towns and cities

I personally know of one person now stuck in another island from their home

This seems to have been implemented by stealth
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February 2, 2022 8:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  if you have the bad luck to fly on a plane with an infected carrier.. you could end up stuck inside a motel/hotel/camping ground for 10days.
  
  Seems very much like LOCKDOWN by another name.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:38am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    And what happens if you just ignore such a directive?
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:53am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You could be fined up to $4000 or imprisoned for 6 months.
      
      https://theconversation.com/as-nz-goes-into-lockdown-authorities-have-new-powers-to-make-sure-people-obey-the-rules-134377
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:00am
      - MCōs
        
        That was two years ago.
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:34am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @MCōs
        
        as far as I am aware the penalties under the Covid-19 Public Health Response Act- 2020 have not been rescinded.
        
        Here’s the 4 December 2021 version of the Act
        https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2020/0012/latest/whole.html#LMS344200
        
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        February 2, 2022 12:05pm
      - Jim
        
        OMG call the police for a home invasion and you’re lucky if they arrive in 24 hours. Yet it appears we have covid cops ready to prosecute
        
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        February 3, 2022 5:15am
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      BY – At $4k or 6 months are you still going to stick to your other early morning comment – or can the Northland trip? 🙂
      
      Maybe a useful link:
      “What happens if I test positive for COVID-19 whilst on holiday in Northland?
      Your situation will be assessed to identify the best place for you to self-isolate. If you can return to your usual residence safely, you will be asked to return home as quickly as possible. You will not be able to use public transport to get home (e.g. fly or take a bus).”
      https://www.northlanddhb.org.nz/home/covid-19/visiting-northland/
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:18am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        I won’t test positive for COVID because I will never get a test.
        
        And if I do not have a phone, how will I be notified that I am a close contact?
        
        https://covid19.govt.nz/testing-and-tracing/contact-tracing/close-contacts/#how-you-will-be-notified
        
        Am I breaking the law if I am off the grid?
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:31am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        You would be lucky to get a phone signal in half of Northland even if you had one -so you won’t be missing anything and will be “off the grid” anyway :):)
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:40am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        More seriously, this is what we will do on our Northland Trip. I have discussed this morning with the Tall Redhead.
        
        We will avoid all cafes, eating out and bars. We will stay away from people as much as possible. We have cancelled the winery tours, but kept the fishing trips.
        
        So once we get through the risk of the Interislander Ferry, we are doing as much as possible to manage our risks. Of course it cannot be eliminated.
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:42am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Exactly how we’ve handle moving between our two regional domiciles for the last 2 years ( you’ll find that in some of the more “remote” places social distancing precautions are as yet an unknown concept). Anyway, enjoy your trip – there’s a lot to see.
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:03am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        BY
        
        Alas, you have outed yourself on KB and I’m sure some eagle-eyed lefty would offer up incriminating evidence that you had no intention of complying with our dear Leader’s rulz.
        
        I, by contrast, always abide by the Rulz… but as I grow older, I’m finding that I have a tendency to be confused, perhaps even forgetful, when confronted by illogical edicts.
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:06am
  - kowtow
    
    The guy who runs a small south island airline was on HDPA last night.
    He said it’s worse than lock down as during lockdown evrything stopped , this way there’s huge uncertainty.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:53am
  - Jim
    
    Yep and all at your own expense too. Bon voyage!
    
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    February 3, 2022 5:11am
- Nickc2
  
  Is this why people are giving up on scanning wherever they go? It certainly is why I won’t be scanning when out of Akld’s North Shore.
  Another sneaky fuck up by a bunch of clowns.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:41am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Yes I have been scanning in when in Christchurch but have no intention of doing so when I go on holiday in 2 weeks.
    
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    February 2, 2022 8:54am
    - DeepBlue
      
      [deleted by Mod, irresponsible law breaking]
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:10am
    - lifesgood
      
      [deleted by Mod, law breaking]
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:19am
    - MCōs
      
      If everybody scanned in there would be thousands of notifications going all over the place if the list of places of interest are anything to go by.
      Nobody is going to be locked up if they get one and can’t be bothered self isolating for the prescribed period because they were in the same Bunnings as an infected person.
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:42am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “Nobody is going to be locked up if they get one and can’t be bothered self isolating for the prescribed period because they were in the same Bunnings as an infected person.”
        
        You don’t know that. In the current environment are you totally confident of that? Note if you were in the same bunnings you would be a casual contact. You do not need to isolate. But if you were notified you were a close contact – and there are dozens of these places now – are you really saying you would be fine if you refused to isolate?
        
        Honestly this country has gone mad and it is just barely starting. But New Zealanders are a compliant bunch.
        
        I think one reason that most controls have gone in Australia is that the Australian people basically said ‘enough’. Until that happens here there will be no limits to the idiocy. Because the COVID NARRATIVE is EVERYTHING to the Government. If they can spin it out until the 2023 election they will.
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:05am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      For the avoidance of doubt, I am not encouraging law breaking. If I am legally required to scan in I will do so. Just as if I was given a lawful direction to isolate for 10 days, well I would isolate for 10 days. I simply will not be constantly seeking opportunities to be given such a direction.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:27am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        You’ll be pretty safe in Russell, Benedict. No-one seems over-fussed here about bureaucracy and the outdoor ventilation is excellent – very warm and breezy. All you need is your vax pass to wave at the cafes and restaurants and a mask for entry and exit.
        
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        February 2, 2022 11:13am
      - bronny1
        
        There no legal requirement to scan/ sign in is there? I thought it was just “encouraged”.
        Is ignorance a defence?
        
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        February 2, 2022 1:26pm
      - Joely Doe
        
        On 22 August 2021, the Ministry of Health announced that scanning or manually signing in to cafes, restaurants, events and the like “will now become compulsory after the Government announced that mandatory record-keeping is being introduced at all alert levels”.
        
        Yes. Scanning or signing in, is mandatory, however whether you do it or not is up to you… and businesses are not punished if you choose not to scan/sign in.
        
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        February 2, 2022 3:27pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Why scan in Chch but not in Northland. Your logic eludes me 🙂
      
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      February 2, 2022 4:08pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        I am surprised I need to explain. So I won’t.
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:18pm
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    February 2, 2022 8:58am
- tui47
  
  This will lead to people not going for tests. Isolate, read the information, and go for a test at the suggested time. Only contact the authorities if you are really ill and need to go to hospital. This pandemic will also lead to people telling lies.
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:18pm
Jack5

The Woke don’t want you to describe anyone’s English language as “poor”.

The Auckland City Council has apologised to one Randu Chand for a reference of this type.

Chand, a property owner, complained about a mention in an email from the council which talked of Chand “allowing people with poor English to live on site”.

Chand in a complaint said he believed the content of the council email was “100 percent” racist.

James Hassall, an Auckland City Council general manager, spelled out:

“In his correspondence with us, Mr Chand claimed that the site was so dangerous that advance notice of the compliance officers’ visit was required. The level of danger was such that he implied Worksafe should be notified of the officers’ entry.

“However, despite his claims that the site is dangerous, Mr Chand is allowing people who are new to the country and are potentially unable to understand the safety risks, to live there.

“The intention behind Ms Fergusson’s [Compliance manager Kerri Fergusson] response to Mr Chand’s claims that the family felt bullied by the two female council officers because of their poor English skills, was to highlight this point.”

Auckland Council apologised for Fergusson’s response, but insisted there was no racist intent.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/300505765/auckland-council-apologises-for-managers-email-about-people-with-poor-english
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February 2, 2022 8:17am
- emmess
  
  Same goes for poor Maori language skills, right?
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:43am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  AC are soft cocks for apologising. People with skin of any colour can have good English or poor English.
  
  What’s more relevant is that people who come to NZ from what we used to call the Third World may have a poor understanding of our H&S standards & compliance requirements.
  
  Anyone who has spent time in such countries will have observed electrical wiring, scaffolding etc that would not pass muster here.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:45pm
Ehlana

Rod Emmerson, Herald cartoonist, offers that Jacinda and her friends spent the holidays writing a plan to deal with Omicron, while Christopher and his friends went to the cricket.

What is this man on? And does he operate heavy machinery while taking it?
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February 2, 2022 8:19am
- G152
  
  HE, LIKE ALL MEDIA CARTOONISTS IS DRAWING ON EXPERIENCE HE DOESN’T HAVE
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:21am
- Inandout
  
  Ehl. Jacinda has just sprayed the arts with some more millions, and cartoons used to be classed as ‘art’. Oh and every marae in NZ has been sprayed with our money for upgrades, hence those new red signs you see pointing to the local meeting house. Seems the covid fund is bottomless.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:29am
- Phronesis
  
  Pretty damning really to suggest that they tried their best and worked hard over the holidays and this was all they could come up with. I guess he wants the Govt to be seen as incompetent but not lazy.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:21am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  He’s on a large slice of bitter Lefty prejudice and has been for ever. Best ignored and left foaming in his corner.
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:07am
piglady

Brother broke his leg on Sunday and is in Rotorua hospital still awaiting surgery. He hopes it will happen today like the past two days!
Our health services are really struggling in Rotorua and probably over the rest of the country.
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February 2, 2022 8:28am
- bronny1
  
  I heard from a doc that Nelson hospital ED is at 120% – without any covid cases.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:28pm
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-anti-vaccine-protest-in-canada-spurs-outrage/OZRE6MK6TPGJMPKZFHI35G5NR4/

https://www.foxnews.com/world/justin-trudeau-freedom-convoy-praised-truckers-2020

Spot the difference. I note the Fearald doesn’t name it’s source. Wonder why……….
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February 2, 2022 8:31am
- Inandout
  
  Frank, the MSM in many countries are vainly attempting to squash the truckers’ convoy protest story but it merely shows how biased they can be. The story is out there and the videos show a huge discontent with ordinary media and woke companies. The permanently outraged are pissing into the wind as companies now realise they are in the profit making area and cancellers merely hurt them in the pocket. Trudeau is a paper tiger and now runs away and ‘catches’ covid so he can isolate.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:59am
  - Batman
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Oh the irony that the permanently outraged are the Canadian QAnons, the fringe truckers, and associated hangers on who want to cancel everything they don’t agree with.
    
    They are the cancellers pissing into the wind as the other 90% of us get on with living sanely.
    
    Remember your social media feeds are not an accurate portrayal of discontent, they feed you what keeps you engaged and enraged!
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:40am
    - RightNow
      
      Living sanely by taking repeated injections of a substance with no longitudinal safety studies.
      Good luck with that.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:08am
      - Batman
        
        Given the billions of doses administered, the largest ever sample has proven the safety and efficacy.
        
        You keep on refining the complaint further and further. I look forward to the reasoning that it cannot be trusted because it wasn’t subject to a “Dunedin study” type process ?
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:24am
    - Frank the tank
      
      https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/02/01/majority-of-canadians-want-all-pandemic-restrictions-to-end/
      
      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/01/fringe-minority-canadians-crowd-funding-for-freedom-convoy-truckers-exceeds-donations-for-top-political-parties/
      
      Dear oh Dear Batty – looks like it’s you and your mates that are now in the minority. Bump.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:10am
      - Batman
        
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        You need to get out of your bubble Franky boy.
        
        “The Independent reports this amount is higher than the money raised by major federal political players of Canada during the closing months of 2021, public records with Elections Canada showed”
        
        The closing months of 2021? Immediately after a general election when donors will be done and dusted for the year… Wow, what a great achievement! Not. Another example of Breitbart playing up a silly stat to suit its rabid readership.
        
        These little grifters have tried this before, resulting in an acrimonious end!
        https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/yellow-vest-convoy-to-ottawa-splits-issues-refunds
        
        Yes people are tired of restrictions and want them gone. Don’t mistake me as defending Trudeau, rather I am taking the piss out of the Qanon trucker nuttiness. They’re a literal fringe driven by the overly-online MAGA base and media.
        
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        February 2, 2022 10:21am
    - Tom Hunter
      
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Vote National in 2023 to get more people like this into the Beehive.
      
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      February 2, 2022 12:05pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Perhaps you could blog about your political principles, Tom, and start generating some grass-roots support for the politicians you do admire. Maybe even stand for office yourself.
        
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        February 2, 2022 12:58pm
- Stellaboxer
  
  [deleted, this is defamatory and puts DPF at legal risk. Start your own blog if you wish to push that idea – Mod]
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:29am
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    Fair enough didn’t really think about it from that point of view apologies.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:03am
Tomtoddy

Trivia. At a point this afternoon it will be 2:22 pm 2/2/22. I am picking I wont see the next row of single digits but who knows. I may dodge Omicron thanks to our caring Govt. sarc.
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February 2, 2022 8:34am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hang on in there for a couple of weeks and you could see
  22:22pm 22/2/22
  as well as
  2:22am; 22:2pm
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:45am
- Local Miller
  
  Well later in the month it will be 22:22:22 22/2/22
  
  My wife’s birth day is 22/02/2022 or 22022022
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:12am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Didn’t the Mayans predict the end of the world then, or some such?
    
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    February 2, 2022 2:47pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Must have. It can’t just be Christian end-times enthusiasts eagerly awaiting the destruction of the world.
      
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      February 2, 2022 6:40pm
      - Clownworld
        
        Wow didn’t pick up you were a student of eshcatology, especially Christianity? Be curious to your insights milkenmildagain, is the mark of the beast to make people unable to buy or sell or be in society unless they have some validated id credible in the near future? Far fetched?
        
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        February 3, 2022 7:24am
- virtualmark
  
  It only counts if you pronounce the 2s like Richie Benaud.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:25pm
Maggie Pie

SOMEONE’S NOT HAPPY 😀

“It’s hard for me to find the right words to express my disgust at Jacinda Ardern and this Government”

– Nandor Tandos (Rastafarian Social Ecologist)
1 Feb, 2022
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February 2, 2022 8:35am
- slightlyrighty
  
  I’ve always had a lot of time for Nandor.
  
  He’s a bit out there, but he has a good grasp on issues. He predicted the housing crisis many years ago.
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:50am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Oh that’s the guy with the dead octopus on his head. 😉
    
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    February 2, 2022 11:07am
- Frank the tank
  
  How can someone perpetually stoned get so angry?
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:00am
- DeepBlue
  
  Great designation. What is that?
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:12am
- Harry Knuts
  
  finally Tandor has come out of his stoner haze.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:22pm
nathie

Why has the Prime Minister suddenly become invisible/missing/disappeared since the Charlotte Bellis issue arose?

Why has Minister Hipkins suddenly become invisible/missing/disappeared since his first ~~gaffe~~ commentary on the Bellis issue?

None of this is new, the Prime Minister frequently becomes invisible/goes missing/disappears whenever there is some controversy.

So what does this mean? That it’s ok for the PM and senior Ministers to vanish when the going gets tough? So they are not accountable?

We are paying the PM and her top (one or two) Ministers (eg be that Hipkins or Davis etc) over one million dollars a year …. they shouldn’t be a bunch of cowards hiding, this is extremely inappropriate and demonstrates poor leadership.

If Jacinda Ardern (and the likes of Chris Hipkins and Kelvin Davis etc) cannot do what their job description requires of them … then do the honorable thing and step down or resign!

Not. Good. Enough. Labour!
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February 2, 2022 8:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Why has the Prime Minister suddenly become invisible/missing/disappeared
  
  Our Dear Leader was self-isolating…setting an example to all of us… she knows how difficult it is (even tho’ she only isolated for 3 days).
  
  Today she is FREE to move amongst us all again….
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:47am
  - nathie
    
    Thanks, yes, but a few days ago I recall her saying she would still be working (on Monday) and would be available via Zoom to discuss govt business with her Ministerial colleagues.
    
    Of course Labour then did something unprecedented, not only did they take the previous Monday off as a holiday (Wellington Anniversary), Labour then took this Monday off (Auckland Anniversary)!
    
    So very convenient, as it also gave the PM another chance to hide, but yesterday was Tuesday and both Ardern and Hipkins were nowhere to be seen!
    
    Oh well at least “Gordon Brown” took the opportunity to show everyone that he was in charge! A portend of things to come perhaps?
    
    Anyway today is Wednesday, will the PM and Hipkins re-emerge or remain in “witless protection”?
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:11am
  - alex Masterley
    
    There are things called Zoom and MS Teams and even things called mobile phones that enable people to communicate.
    Surely our PM could have mastered those devices to communicate with us?
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:15am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Surely our PM could have mastered those devices to communicate with us?
      
      You probably need a Communications degree to know how to push the skype button.
      
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      February 2, 2022 9:20am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        She must have one – she’s used that button before – when it suits.
        
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        February 2, 2022 9:27am
      - tui47
        
        She sure knows how to load up those Facebook live posts.
        
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        February 2, 2022 12:21pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Skype is dead, Maggy
        
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        February 2, 2022 2:51pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Do not look behind the green curtain
      
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      February 2, 2022 3:48pm
- slernz
  
  Sir, surely you jest? Do you not know that Glorious Leader, Comrade Ardern, while on a pilgrimage of Kindness and Miracles, contacted the deadly virus. Comrade Ardern was among her adoring team of five million, performing miracles and guiding those less fortunate, or reluctant comrades, to get vaccinated. Glorious Leader has to self-isolate like us mere mortals too.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:19am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    In the old days, just a touch of the royal cloak could heal scrofulous & other such lurgis.
    
    Just goes to show that Jacinda is such a wanna-be
    
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    February 2, 2022 2:54pm
- namron
  
  Perhaps it would have been “honeymoon time” in her diary – and she’s just making the most of it without the honeymoon.
  With Parliament back next week, she might be spending time finding new words in her dictionary and thesaurus to cope with the fierce attack from National.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:39am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, she could have a field-day with contesting, gainsaying, disacknowledging and disaffirming her Government’s (in)actions.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:22am
- crikey
  
  Kelvin Davis IS doing what’s required of him – to keep out of harm’s way.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:08am
- Harry Knuts
  
  the PM is a person that doesn’t like to get into the awkward situations that she knows they are in the wrong. She leaves this for the ones under her. Leaves her out of the blame-game. She’s only there for delivering instructions to her subjects.
  
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  February 2, 2022 4:27pm
- Jim
  
  Ardern is a master of shamelessly using media opportunities for self promotion.
  I believe it’s not so much that they are hiding, but they choose to ‘front’ at any good PR opportunity. So what people are seeing is the disparity between on show for good PR opportunities and hiding away during bad PR opportunities.
  
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  February 3, 2022 6:28am
In Vino Veritas

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf
And there readers, is the science.
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February 2, 2022 8:44am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  “…studies find that lockdowns in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average. SIPOs[Shelter in place orders] were also ineffective, only reducing COVID-19 mortality by 2.9% on average. Specific NPI studies also find no broad-based evidence
  of noticeable effects on COVID-19 mortality.
  While this meta-analysis concludes that ockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.”
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:03am
- bennerg
  
  Conclusion:
  
  “While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted.
  
  In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy
  instrument”.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:34am
- CPB
  
  Thanks for the link – interesting reading. Doubt we’ll see it reported anywhere
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:35am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    No, you definitely won’t see it here CPB. After all, that would mean a journalist would have to (1) do some research and (2) understand what they were reading. And no so called journalist in this country has the cognitive ability to fulfil both of those conditions.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:35am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      If they did have, it would not be published. There is no commercial benefit and real risks in challenging the Government messaging.
      
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      February 2, 2022 12:20pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  All that said, they were undoubtedly effective in NZ’s case. Just incredibly expensive and unwarranted after vaccination in the later half of 2021
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:29am
kevn

@Maggie… and a Whakatane councillor.
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February 2, 2022 8:44am
- Random T Person
  
  Who never replied to my email asking if he was OK with the discrimination now being practiced by the Whakatane District Council.
  Don’t get me wrong, I like Nandor. But it would have been nice had he taken the time.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:09am
Pongo

The Herald while streaks ahead of Stuff at holding the government to account has a problem with its political opinion writers. Thomas, Claire and Fran have stopped writing interesting stuff and seem to just write advice columns for Jacinda.
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February 2, 2022 8:45am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Exactly. For independent commentary the journalistic profession is now completely moribund and it is only outsiders that provide it. At least the Herald is giving them a platform and implicitly illustrating the shortcomings of its employees.
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:18am
  - Jim
    
    Since the www era replaced the printing press, MSM substituted their small everyday subscriptions with big corporate funding streams (including many benevolent Foundations). Hence MSM now have more ‘editorial constraints’ afforded by their financial allegiances with the corporate cartel, to deny this is pure fantasy.
    
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    February 3, 2022 6:34am
Yvette

Luxon told the crowd: “We need to be open for business. We’re not going to be rebuild our economy by drawing a moat around the motu.”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/02/covid-19-omicron-national-leader-christopher-luxon-calls-for-border-relaxation.html

Really? Kererū English or was Luxon having a dig at Ardern – or does “moat around the motu” have a ring to it (excuse the pun – like, One Ring to Rule Them All :o)
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February 2, 2022 8:48am
I remember when

The Project TV3: Research suggests NZ children losing physicality because of excessive screen time:
Growing up in New Zealand study:
This may well be correct but I wonder whether there might be other reasons that impact more.
Older parents with smaller families mean more ‘helicopter’ type parenting.
Many children now spend much more time with their grandparents who are oldr again.
Go to the average school and look at the bike enclosure.
Increased numbers being driven to school and home again.
Smaller families mean less playing/games with siblings.
Health and Safety now mean that early childcare is overly safety conscious.
Greater numbers of females in daycares, schools, kindergartens, etc, mean vigourous play is likely to be discouraged.
How many throw stones, jump off elevated areas, have balls taken away to prevent damage.
Higer levels of obesity.
Incidentally, looking at those involved in the study, show there is also a gender imbalance in those doing the measuring.
No I’m not suggesting the study has come to the wrong conclusions just wondering about options.
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February 2, 2022 8:57am
wilderbeast

Charlotte Bellis is really emerging as a lightning rod. Having got what she needed she’s still hammering the government for their duplicity and need to do better for EVERYONE. I’m hugely impressed, given media personalities often pull these stunts for their own personal brand it’s great to see someone not backing down after they’ve won their own personal battle.
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February 2, 2022 9:01am
Maggy Wassilieff

Anyone been wondering where all that PGF and Kānoa – RDU money has been spent?

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2022/02/01/it-looks-like-a-trough-and-438m-or-so-has-been-dished-out-on-completed-projects-but-the-name-keeps-it-nicely-camouflaged/
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February 2, 2022 9:04am
- Nickc2
  
  Thanks Maggy, I’ve been looking for this since Mike Hosking mentioned it this morning. It should be compulsory reading for all NZ Voters. Here’s a sample:
  A remote Far North marae has become the 500th regional economic development project completed with Crown investment from the PGF and other funds.
  The responsible Minister is none other than Kelvin Davis.
  Hey Kelvin, What other funds mate? Could the Covid borrowed/printed money be involved?
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:28am
- Ehlana
  
  Well, they’ve spent $130m on regional rail investment, $43m on East Coast & Hawke’s Bay roading, $33m on 9 Worker Redeployment packages (including $665k on Samoan Church packages), $21.4 m on 59 marae projects (so an average of around $360,000 each).
  
  Overall, East Coast got $81.2m, Northland $64.6m, Bay of Plenty $40.5m, Hawke’s Bay $34.2m, Manawatu-Whanganui $22.3m.
  
  Ain’t other people’s money grand?
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:13am
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    And some people want the OAP pushed out to 67 or more to pay for the Covid debt, half of which has been spent on non Covid initiatives. Getting elderly people to fund this governments bribes and re-election spending. Don’t think so. Too late now of course but an alternative approach could have been to be prudent with the spending.
    
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    February 2, 2022 11:53am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Changing the eligibility criteria for a welfare benefit is not the same as making the beneficiaries fund something.
      
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      February 2, 2022 2:23pm
I remember when

The Bush Telegraph: Water shortage cans Dannevirke Show:
An equestrian show has a huge need for water – an early January event used over 75,000 litres and caused complaints from locals.
Demands from the cattle section compounded the problem.
These problems when added to the covid restrictions lead to the A&P Association reluctantly making the their decision after a lengthy debate.
The A&P Committee is to begin investigating options for water supplies to insulate the show in future.
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February 2, 2022 9:05am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

And I’ll tell you someone else who’s looking REALLY fab these days….

Australia’s former Foreign Minister, Julie Bishop.

https://twitter.com/JayStill4/status/1487305711818186756
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February 2, 2022 9:12am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  She looks a tad skinny to me. Hope she’s OK.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Holy Moly..
  
  She needs a damn good feed of greasy mutton, doughboys, roast spuds and a dessert plate of suet pudding and custard.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:26am
  - Biscuit
    
    Hmm, some overly fussy folk about, heh.
    
    (Although I trust the Captain’s observation hasn’t anything to do with a condition I haven’t heard a story about.)
    
    Nowt wrong with a fit, pert, youngish partner.
    
    Without meaning to be unkind, what would you prefer?
    
    I mean, just in local politics, you’d have Manaia or Megan as ‘anti-Julia’ types. And, if your bent was towards males, Ginormous Gerry here and Big Boris or Turbo Trump overseas…
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:53am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I mean, just in local politics, you’d have Manaia or Megan
      
      I think if you look at photos from a year or two back, you will have to acknowledge that Nanaia Mahuta has lost a considerable amount of weight recently.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:33am
  - lifesgood
    
    Anorexia? She looks terrible.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:57am
- Nickc2
  
  Ms Mudguard! Shiney on top, shitty underneath. A very dangerous Kritter in Parliament, and that’s towards her own party.
  In private as in Parliament, if she couldn’t be the Queen-Bee, she’d destroy the hive and eat all the Drones.
  
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  February 2, 2022 9:50am
- Frank the tank
  
  Not a patch on Sarah Palin or Kristi Noem Mags
  
  Just saying.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:13am
  - Batman
    
    It seems almost too easy to break out the litany of Sarah Palin moments of idiocy. It’s rather fitting to see the original MAGA mom having a comeback though.
    
    She deserves the credit for reducing US Republicanism to the hollow shell it is today.
    
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    February 2, 2022 10:31am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      A partial credit only.
      Many people have contributed to the end of the republic.
      
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      February 2, 2022 10:44am
      - Batman
        
        This is true. But she was a trail blazer for the regressive movement and McCain’s greatest mistake.
        
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        February 2, 2022 11:27am
      - Frank the tank
        
        Here we go again with the delusional narrative that the US is going to revert to a Handmaid’s Tale-type civilization should the GOP get in.
        
        Can anyone honestly say the US in in a better space now than when Trump was president. The vast majority of Americans don’t.
        
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        February 2, 2022 11:45am
    - Frank the tank
      
      LOL. Her worst moments aren’t even in the same league as the old coot. Throwing stones in a glasshouse Batty
      
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      February 2, 2022 11:41am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      The hollow shell that is leading all the polls compared to the one “governing” disasters in all areas? Reality check failed.
      
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      February 2, 2022 12:36pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      What do you mean ‘should the GOP get in’? The GOP already has its agenda pretty much secured already, thanks to a practical veto of any substantial congressional business and a monopoly of the non-elected judges who do the bulk of legislating in the current era.
      With that already in place, the US is well on the way to fulfilling the hearts’ desires of those who want to burn the place down.
      
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      February 2, 2022 1:03pm
- bronny1
  
  That’s not fab, it’s anorexic.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:35pm
I remember when

Bush Telegraph: Pamu (Landcorp): Farm staff stunned when Pamu starts documenting feral deer kills:
One farm, one year, 947 feral deer killed.
In five years, five Pamu farms on the East Coast have eradicated more than 15,000 feral deer, goats and hare.
Pest management on the five farms cost an extra $530,000 over five years.
Otherwise they would be losing carbon sequestration because forests can’t regenerate.
The deer population has been increasing all over the country.
In 2021, ungulate species such as deer, goats and pigs were present on 82% of DOC land compared with 63% in 2013.

Why would the general public need to own and use a gun?
What is going to happen when the country is covered in privately owned forests?
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February 2, 2022 9:15am
- Ehlana
  
  If only deer, goats, pigs and hare were edible and people could be taught to hunt them for food and skins. But then they might become self-sufficient and even start new industries. Just as well we have a rural development fund to prevent such things.
  
  Do increased numbers of deer, goats, pigs and hares count as a delivery by this government?
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:46am
Southern Raider

Anyone noticed the coverage of National Party caucus meeting on TVOne had to come at several digs at National around being out of touch, rich etc

Then clutching at straws tried to imply Luxon didn’t have a plan when asked about exactly how many students there are to meet his screening proposal. He kind of looked at her like “the data is available, there is only three factors and it’s basic maths so go and work it out yourself”
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February 2, 2022 9:27am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Classic senior management behaviour. In a good way.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:58pm
Truman lodge

I was convinced the Govt would take us to level 4 lockdown. But I’m thinking the current setting is a pseudo level 4. Effectively you could end up with half of Auckland isolating for 3 weeks which is insanity. I think they wanted level 4 but new it was politically untenable. This way they get a sneaky level 4 and get to shut most hospitality and retail stores in the coming weeks. All it will take is one case at a school and its shut down for 24 days. This is complete madness!
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February 2, 2022 9:27am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  Instead of a blanket lockdown imposed from the podium..we will have 24-40 day rolling lockdowns within communities….
  Planes, intercity buses, schools, shops and restaurants will all be on limited schedules.
  
  Basically the same thing…with a different spin.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:38am
- Ehlana
  
  Well, is anyone going to plan to go away from home, especially on holiday, if it could result in 24 days of lockdown in some other town?
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:10am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Ok if within driving distance, I guess
    
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    February 2, 2022 3:39pm
Southern Raider

Māori Council seems to have been paid off by Jacinda to provide positive press to balance out the polls

Matthew Tutaki is on LinkedIn doing a glowing post standing beside Jacinda about all the things she is delivered, best PM ever etc
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February 2, 2022 9:29am
Surely Knott

The science media centre (SMC) started in the uk as a pr link between media and scientists . In the UK it has been criticised for being an arm of corporate lobbyists and government and not being neutral..

In NZ it is funded by the government through the Royal Society. The SMC claim “Our aim is to promote accurate, evidence-based reporting on science and technology by helping the media work.”

“The Science Media Centre is New Zealand’s only trusted, independent source of information for the media on all issues related to science. Thousands of news stories providing context from and quoting New Zealand researchers have been published as a direct result of our work.”

The Science media centre claims it is the ONLY source of truth it seems and to be independent when they are almost entirely government funded.

The Chair of the SMC board is “Patrick Crewdson Editor-in-chief, Stuff” and board member includes science spokesperson Michael Baker.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/about/board-staff/

And Siouxie Wiles is a board member on the Royal Society who is their parent company .

The two scientific spokespeople for the pandemic are the board members of these organisations who are supposed to be acting in a governance role to provide independent science analysis to journalists .

From the Royal Societies published financials: Note 21 Key Management Personnel. “The key management personnel, as defined by PBE IPSAS 20 are the members of the governing body (the Council), Chief Executive, Chief Operating Officer and five other Directors (2020: six). No remuneration is paid to members of Council. The aggregate remuneration of key management personnel and the number of individuals, determined on a full-time equivalent basis, receiving remuneration is as follows: Total Remuneration $1334000 Number of Persons 7. The 12 members of the governing body (the Council) as at 30 June 2021 were: Professor Wendy Larner (President), Dr Thomas Baker, Dr Russell Burton, Dr Brent Clothier, Dr Anthony Conner, Professor Charlotte Macdonald, Associate Professor Catriona Ng, Mrs Jennifer Pollock, Dr Dianne Sika-Paotonu, Dr Reremoana Theodore, Associate Professor Melinda Webber, Associate Professor Siouxsie Wiles”

So it is unclear from that note which 7 are also management and being remunerated. Are some being paid for their scientific opinion in the news.
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February 2, 2022 9:43am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I don’t think you have reported this very accurately. You seem to be confusing the royal society’s council with the advisory board for the science media centre. You also don’t seem to have understood Note 21, which states that ‘no remuneration is paid to members of Council’.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:58am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Controlling the message is so necessary to prevent wrongthink these days. Orwell was so right, just a little ahead of his time
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:44pm
surfing

Pensioners illegally locked out of New Zealand by Jacinda are now being chased by MSD for 16k because they have been out of the country for so long.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-miq-lockout-ministry-of-social-development-wants-16k-back-from-kiwi-couple/IRUE3RPBORGTI5S574DDQQK2WQ/

I wonder what Jacinda and her mates were doing in January when all of these easily anticipated problems started causing real damage to real people?

You’d think Jacinda would have been working away to fix these problems, just like the little old lady who swallowed a fly (what happened again?)….but clearly not.

Thinking of the old lady swallowing a fly story, every labour mp should be forced to read that story to learn about unintended consequences!
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February 2, 2022 9:56am
Maggie Pie

Remember the wonderfully heady-days of the ‘Vogue Cover Shoot’….and ClarkE holding Bubby at the UN?

‘New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern subjects pregnant journalist to UNIMAGINABLE CRUELTY’

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1488571359139491841
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February 2, 2022 9:56am
potato

Vehicle TAX is coming check yours here.

https://dealer.rightcar.govt.nz/

When there is no option it is a tax.
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February 2, 2022 9:59am
Rusty

Aussie PM Scott Morrison must be feeling like Donald Trump did in 2020.

The Democrat led states in America undermined Trumps covid response and election chances and the same is happening in Aust with the Labour led states undermining Scott Morrisons chances of being re-elected.

The despot Labour Premiers of WA, Victoria, and Queensland in collusion with the mainstream media have probably convinced many of there people that its not their fault for lock downs, border controls, and the spread of Omicron but Scott Morrison and the Liberals.

Morrison must take some blame and being PM a lot of Aussies may hold him accountable come election time.
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February 2, 2022 10:02am
- MCōs
  
  The MSM made me do it, judge.
  
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  February 2, 2022 10:55am
- jon
  
  A change of government in Australia will see the return of the boat people problem. The people smugglers will be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect.
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:20am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    You mean, people leaving Aus?
    
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    February 2, 2022 3:42pm
kevn

@potato… Interesting data, “Not to be shared with consumers”.
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February 2, 2022 10:20am
- Ehlana
  
  Are consumers the same people as taxpayers – you know, those folks who fund the govt?
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:12am
Bridgenag

The Australian Freedom Convoy 2022 of truckers protesting COVID mandates and restrictions has arrived in Canberra. Video on Daily Telegraph Bet it doesn’t appear on our media ………….ratbag MSM
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February 2, 2022 10:28am
Taieri

A very profound observation from the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs:

“(…)The Dunedin MP behind changes to bank lending rules is standing by them and says there is nothing in the legislation saying people wanting a loan cannot have takeaways.

“Nowhere in the regulations does it say you can’t have fish and chips, go to Kmart or have Uber Eats.

“Those things are not to be found in the regulations anywhere,” Dr Clark said.(…)”

https://www.odt.co.nz/business/minister-stands-lending-rules-says-he-will-listen
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February 2, 2022 10:44am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  He should apply the same test to the Treaty of Waitangi.
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:28pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/24-billion-government-keeping-higher-cost-for-auckland-light-rail-under-wraps/7MISY22I3EIVTTR3QUREPVSKXQ/

Government have publicly announced a figure of 14.6 billion for auckland light rail, but, have a secret figure of 24 billion for what they actually think it will cost.

I think they have made a calculation error, the contingency figure was supposed to be ADDED!! ie, 14.6 24 = 38.6 billion. Then, double that because , well, incompetence and inflation etc, and Auckland light rail will end up costing 76 billion or so.
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February 2, 2022 10:50am
- Frank the tank
  
  Has wokeLuxon indicated he will shit can this if he gets the treasury benches?
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:47am
  - curry4me
    
    Frank the tank: Not much chance of Chris from marketing doing that. They’ll ust lose a bit less.
    
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    February 2, 2022 12:55pm
- MCōs
  
  I think I’ll come out of retirement and get on the design team.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:25pm
Inandout

Yes NZ is slowly going down the drain, but culturally correctly.
https://nopunchespulled.com/2022/02/01/where-your-taxes-go/
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February 2, 2022 10:50am
- JerJer
  
  Yes. I was discussing the pronouns we would use a couple of days back.
  
  We decided on Rich/White man.
  
  It doesn’t appear to be in the list of examples though.
  
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  February 2, 2022 7:53pm
zulumonster

I see Robbo is pushing ahead with the Unemployment Insurance proposal – to be funded by a 1.39% tax.
Ignoring the “no new tax” issue, I am guessing this new tax will be tacked onto the 33% or 39% tax bands, while the scheme is proposed to be for middle and low income earners who may not even contribute to the scheme.
Would it be sour grapes for a high income earner to feel a little miffed about this “inequity”?
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February 2, 2022 10:58am
- Ehlana
  
  Shouldn’t it be coming off the existing tax rate? After all, that money won’t be needed for the unemployment benefit anymore.
  
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  February 2, 2022 11:37am
  - Nickc2
    
    Come on Ehlana, don’t apply logic to a rort.
    
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    February 2, 2022 11:43am
- rouppe
  
  How long before you see:
  1. Joe Bloggs gets a job
  2. Joe Bloggs is an arse so as to get laid off
  3. Joe Bloggs gets paid 6 months to sit around
  4. Start from 1 again
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:09pm
  - MCōs
    
    Happens now if Joe Bloggs is devious enough or is unfairly dismissed.
    I haven’t seen the fine print, but I’d expect JB won’t be able to go back to square one without a minimum period of employment.
    
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    February 2, 2022 1:23pm
- rockape
  
  This is another freebie that will be taken advantage of. Why would you hurry back to work when you can go surfing for 6 months on 80% of your wage. Why would a business p@y for your training to upskill when they could get th fund to pay by making you redundant but with a nudge nudge on your re employment on a higher salary due to your new qualification. Seasonal work will never be the same !
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:21pm
  - Yabster
    
    more b/s from this shit socialist twats – firstly in a time of high inflation and higher interest another tax (yes Grant you can call it a levy for pr spin but its a tax) is not welcome.
    As Ehlana says as the dole will go down then why will it not be taken out of the current tax take.
    Why is it compulsary (to please the bloody unions)- if I want income insurance, I as an individual can make my own decision and get it.
    
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    February 2, 2022 1:12pm
- mawm
  
  Zulu – the high income earner is being stiffed at every turn. For instance the transport levy in Auckland is a portion of ones rates. So those high income earners that live in Remuera and Herne Bay with their very high property values, and who are not likely to catch trains are funding those who live further out in lower rated areas and who use trains to commute, etc. In fact a progressive tax system is the ultimate of unfairness and the only kind of fair tax would be an equal amount paid by all. Still it’s probably nicer to be the one paying high taxes than those on the dole.
  
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  February 2, 2022 5:42pm
Yvette

Go hard and fast
Matthew Hooton on Magic Talk Radio has just indicated that when Jacinda Ardern seemed to dither over closing the borders when covid first swept the globe, “billionaires” threatened to have newspapers print full-page statements on the position. So much for the whole “hard and fast” sloganeering.
Perhaps the culprits, who we should thank, are related to “The businessmen who helped save us”
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/04/the_businessmen_who_helped_save_us.html
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February 2, 2022 11:20am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Yep, labour were paralysed in inaction and had to be threatened into closing borders by a collection of rich listers (heard the story directly from one of them). Thank heavens the grownups stepped in. Same for the supply of PPE – rich listers organized planeloads while govt flapped around doing sweet FA
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:06pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Let’s propose a statue to the unknown billionaire businessmen who saved us from covid!
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:44pm
artemisia

Prediction – recent poll trends and sense of growing disquiet will have the kitchen cabinet galvanised into getting ‘sticky’ policies up and running asap.
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February 2, 2022 11:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

Having trouble selling your crochet hats or macrame hangings in the last year?

No-one wanting to hear your honky-tonk piano down at the club?

Worry not…. Our Dear Government is here to help..

The Cultural Sector Emergency Relief Fund has been provided an additional $35.5 million to fund more direct support for individuals and organisations.
The limit on funding for individual organisations has been increased from $100,000 to $300,000.

A one-off grant of $5,000 will be available to eligible self-employed individuals/sole traders in the arts and cultural sector who have lost income or opportunities to work.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2202/S00011/government-delivers-further-support-for-arts-and-culture-sector.htm
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February 2, 2022 11:28am
artemisia

Surge in requests to home school, looks like plenty heading to MHA Connected – Alwyn Poole’s new venture.

As one principal in the article said – with 2,000 schools even a handful from some is a whole lot of children.

I hope Alwyn drops in time to time with updates.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/460699/covid-19-new-home-schooling-surge-after-mask-mandate-surprises-principals
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February 2, 2022 11:34am
- MCōs
  
  The last thing I’d ever want to have done was home school my kids. Especially if it’s only to save them wearing masks during class time for what may only be a few months.
  Teaching is a tough gig if you’re thrown in at the deep end.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:05pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    With one on one attention it only takes a couple of hours a day for primary kids. And older kids can do more for themselves.
    
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    February 2, 2022 2:08pm
- bronny1
  
  Interesting that they suggest it’s due to the mask mandate yet the increased numbers are nov, dec and jan.
  
  I’d suggest it’s due to the vax in schools programme, as it’s been indicated that having your kid attend school is basically consent to have them jabbed.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:44pm
Hugh Jarse

So at a time of high inflation that’s not under control, looming interest rates that will impact home owners with mortgages, low income people in rental accomodation, a health crisis with omicron coming up over the next few months, the government decides to announce a new unemployment scheme and new taxes to fund it to take even more money out of peoples pockets. But I guess the more of these initiatives they promote the quicker and longer will be the downfall. It’s ironic that today they also announce the lowest unemployment rate in years, so where is the problem they are trying to fix or is it recognition of the future outcomes of their policies ?
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February 2, 2022 11:41am
- MCōs
  
  Following that logic we should scrap ACC, EQC, free/subsidized public health, M bovis compensation . . . . any taxpayer funded scheme designed to help out those who have taken a hit.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:15pm
  - Yabster
    
    left leaning socialists don’t follow logic though do they…
    
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    February 2, 2022 2:19pm
- bronny1
  
  unemployment is way higher than the figures the govt provides – but you have to be looking for work to count as a jobseeker and if you have one paid hour per week you are excluded.
  
  The irony is that I will. E [be] required to pay this insurance but bc my partner works, I doubt I’ll be eligible for the payment to – just like the dole.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:46pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  To qualify as unemployed you have to be actively looking for a job. If you can’t be arsed you get paid anyway but don’t get counted as unemployed. That’s why it’s down to 3.2%.
  When the Nats were in power you didn’t get paid unless you were actively job seeking.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:10pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    When the Nats were in power you didn’t get paid unless you were actively job seeking
    
    Not quite, they had to pretend to be actively job seeking.
    
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    February 2, 2022 2:31pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie tweets that she’s currently scheduled for fertility-treatment with the Taliban.
Says….'”It’s actually amazing how supportive they’ve all been”
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February 2, 2022 11:42am
greybeard

3.2% unemployment ?
Yeah, right.
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February 2, 2022 11:48am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  depends how you define unemployment. Politicians have a particular agenda there to hide poor performance which makes the number they report meaningless.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:10pm
Inandout

Wow, I am amazed at how parents handle this school mask fiasco. Heard that some parents are choosing home schooling rather than subjecting their kids to choking masks while they are trying to learn. One of my relies did home schooling about 20 years ago and both kids now have really good paying private sector jobs.
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February 2, 2022 11:50am
- Flossie
  
  Just been at Auckland museum, and next to the carpark a field with a large group of primary aged school kids doing what looked something like a cross country run. Every single one of them wearing a mask, poor little devils.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:09pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  One of the whanau ended up “teaching” 4 kids during last year’s lockdowns…. Her 12 and 15 yr old and her sister’s 10 and 14 yr old.
  
  I cracked up when she told me that the first thing she did was to bring back corporal punishment.
  
  Anyway, the 2 teens flew through their NCEA Level One exams.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:19pm
- bronny1
  
  Two of my nieces were home schooled. 90 mins of schoolwork a day. The rest of the time playing in the massive (rural) section or hanging with friends. They both opted to go back to school for level 1 ncea, only to find they were bored sh@tress they were so far ahead. They both went on to be dux of the college.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:48pm
curry4me

https://rumble.com/vtnp90-new-surveillance-footage-of-ballot-drop-boxes..html

New Surveillance Footage of Ballot Drop Boxes.

New teaser of upcoming film, “2000 Mules,” and go to 2000mules.com to sign up for movie updates. [Wow! I didn’t see this on CNN, or the Sux O’Clock ‘news’ /sarc]
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February 2, 2022 12:13pm
- Inandout
  
  curry, anti-Biden vote evidence is on the same level as anti-vaccine; cannot be discussed. However will be looking forward to the film.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:36pm
  - curry4me
    
    Inandout: Yeah, I guess we won’t see it on One ewes. I’ll watch on rumble.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:39pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  How terribly inconvenient to legacy media and tech-company narratives.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:12pm
curry4me

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=747681672858683&extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&ref=sharing

Who done this????

I guess we don’t get to hear Justin Trudeau’s statement after all.
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February 2, 2022 12:14pm
curry4me

https://babylonbee.com/news/socialists-condemn-workers-of-the-world-for-uniting
Socialists Condemn Workers Of The World For Uniting.

Looks like their favorite slogan is only for selective consumption.
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February 2, 2022 12:14pm
curry4me

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1876770255843196/permalink/1878141859039369

NZ TRUCKERS CONVOY 2022 – FREEDOM

Let’s see if the local truckers are as awesome as the Canadian ones. Good luck to them.
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February 2, 2022 12:14pm
- surfing
  
  Not very original. Can’t we do something unique to NZ rather than copying the canadians?
  
  Shane Ardern drove his tractor up the steps of parliament…quite liked that. I bet family get togethers are somewhat uncomfortable.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:57pm
  - Cinematic
    
    No need to reinvent the wheel.
    
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    February 2, 2022 4:36pm
  - curry4me
    
    surfing: No need. Why alter a winning formula?
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:41pm
Lucia Maria

Was really struck by the opening paragraph of this piece on the Canadian truckers regarding Commonwealth countries:

Canadian coronavirus lockdown policies have been, and remain, some of the most stringent and restrictive in the entire Western world. It may be a Commonwealth thing, given that Australia and New Zealand have also descended into unrecognizable islands of cruel and capricious public health tyranny.

Trudeau Is Playing with Fire
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February 2, 2022 12:19pm
- MCōs
  
  I don’t know much about the situation in Canada and it’s clear Laura Rosen Cohen knows little about NZ.
  
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  February 2, 2022 12:51pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    People’s blindness and indifference makes it even worse.
    
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    February 2, 2022 1:42pm
  - Inandout
    
    MC, with Google I know heaps about other countries.
    
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    February 2, 2022 1:47pm
    - MCōs
      
      From my experience there’s nothing like being there/here.
      Reading an opinion about elsewhere online means, by definition, you’re getting what they want you to read.
      Ms Cohen is a Canadian whose beat doesn’t include this country. Her take on NZ is second hand.
      
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      February 2, 2022 5:26pm
Southern Raider

It’s not a levy it’s just another fucken tax

Govt now wants to add 1.39% levy onto everyone for redundancy payments

Who can afford this shit
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February 2, 2022 12:28pm
- Ruawai
  
  From what I read it looks like 1.39% from the employee and 1.39% from the employer, so total 2.78% tax.
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:02pm
  - cmm
    
    They really don’t understand that making the employer pay doesn’t really make the employer pay – it still comes out of the pile that is the employee’s wages. Same as all the other “benefits” an employee gets” leave, sick leave, parental leave, Kiwisaver contributions, ACC, etc…
    
    If an employer can afford $35/hr for a new employee and $10 needs to go into all these other costs, then only $25 ends up in the wages.
    
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    February 2, 2022 5:27pm
rjay

Stunned to read this on Newshub about Ivermectin
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2022/02/ivermectin-shows-antiviral-effect-against-covid-19-japanese-company-says.html
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February 2, 2022 12:49pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Just goes to show that you can’t control everyone on everything all of the time. Information breakthroughs all over the place. Re-establishing my faith in humanity.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:41pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Saw that months ago – back in August I think.
    
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    February 2, 2022 5:54pm
Maggie Pie

My ex told me once he couldn’t live without me.
One of the girls from tennis was saying she saw him in Ponsonby last night.

More lies.
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February 2, 2022 1:00pm
- I remember when
  
  “My ex told me once he couldn’t live without me.”
  So I presume you told him he couldn’t live with you.
  
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  February 2, 2022 1:42pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’m sure you educated him, Maggie.
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:47pm
Truman lodge

Well Well the booster wait time is being reduced to 3 months! Gee who didn’t see that coming..
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February 2, 2022 1:05pm
Surely Knott

If the government can’t afford a fourth dose then why are they reducing the booster gap to 3 months . What is the efficacy of 2 doses at 3 months?
And why are European entry rules that you must have a vaccine within the last 9 months if the vaccine is only valid for 3 months according to nz. And is the efficacy due to when you took it or how many you took. ie I have only had one vaccine – if i get another tomorrow can i have 3 months of freedom or will i never catch up?
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February 2, 2022 1:08pm
Libertarians are right

Stuff has an article about Robbo’s Job Tax and it includes the line:

“Finance Minister Grant Robertson has designed the proposed scheme alongside the Council of Trade Unions and Business NZ, and campaigned on it before the 2020 election.”

That is not true – this did not come up until the 2021 Budget. (a far better – non-extra tax version was an ACT policy though).

Are Stuff deliberately lying so that Labour can claim this new tax was signaled pre-election and therefore isn’t breaking their “no new taxes” lie?
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February 2, 2022 1:16pm
rockape

I know her policies stink but isn’t this going too far? This will be Ardern’s first media appearance following her short stink in self-isolation after she was deemed a close contact. Newshub
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February 2, 2022 1:21pm
- rangitoto
  
  “short stink in self-isolation”. Probably accurate which is unusual for Newshub.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:34pm
I remember when

Sorry BY I may have reported you by accident.
Was just going to extol the joys of the ‘free range’ moa eggs.
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February 2, 2022 1:40pm
surfing

Studylink are bozos, I called them before xmas asking exactly what information is acceptable for my proof of income for my sons student loan application.

She said the last 12 months of income printed from the IRD website is just fine, and it doesn’t need to be signed by a JP because it is an IRD document. So, we did as they advised.

Just got a letter from studylink that says the information they gave to us is completely wrong and they need different information.

What is the point of a helpline if the people on the other end of the line have no idea what they are talking about?
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February 2, 2022 1:43pm
Inandout

Maggie, come on tell us….what gender?
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February 2, 2022 1:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

You really have to wonder about the intelligence of some entertainment folk… or is Whoopi Goldberg indicative of the education folks receive in the USA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-02/whoopi-goldberg-apologises-for-saying-holocaust-was-not-about-ra/100798070
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February 2, 2022 2:01pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  It’s also worth noting that she chose the name “Goldberg” because she thinks that Jews control the entertainment industry and that they give advantages to other Jews.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:11pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Could have worked well for Taika Cohen.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taika_Waititi
    
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    February 2, 2022 5:48pm
Maggie Pie

There’s a lot of LUV out there for this business 😀

If I remember correctly, they had the owner last year on ‘Country Calendar’…..reckoned his biggest mistake, was not taking his father’s advice and getting a nice secure job with the Government.

https://twitter.com/KarinMary1/status/1488580759464341506
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February 2, 2022 2:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How many hits of Pfizer juice can a body take?

How many hits of Pfizer juice will we take before we say taihoa?
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February 2, 2022 2:06pm
- PeeJay
  
  This is beyond a joke now, surely? I mean, this is obviously an in-house joke and they are seeing how far they can push this before someone says ‘good one, very funny’. I mean, they can’t really be serious about this crap!
  
  With double vaccinations at six weeks, with boosters now at 3 months, the average kiwi is going to have 5 shots in the first year, then four per year in the year that follows at 3 months intervals.
  
  Surely this raises the obvious question? If you need to take 5 shots of the ‘cure’ in the first year and four shots, presumably every year thereafter, is this really worth it? Is it really bloody working?
  
  I suspect the vaxs pass will not end because this is probably going to be the only way they can convince the population to keep going through this farce.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:17pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Doesn’t matter to Pfizer. At $36.6 a pop it’s all money in the bank and it doesn’t matter if some of the experimental subjects happen to pop off before the next mutation comes along and you need another “booster”.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:25pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Look at table one in this huge study. Risk of myocarditis appears to increase almost exponentially with each dose/booster:
  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf
  
  I’ll take my chances with Omicron unboosted thanks.
  
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  February 2, 2022 2:46pm
  - Cobolt24
    
    With my second vaccine (early December) I had upper chest pain and even now I have noticed an increase in heart palpalations. Definitely not getting the booster.
    
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    February 2, 2022 4:35pm
Warren

How can you trust Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield to be tell ing the truth on the reducing the time from 4 months to 3 months on our booster shot with them saying it’s more effective at the reduced rate.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-booster-vaccines-gap-shrinks-from-four-months-to-three-months/ZTN2WIBY2NA6CN43JIGH3K6FOQ/
These Two individuals have been caught lying in the past so what makes you think they are being Truthful now.
My wife and myself had our boosters in the beginning of January.
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February 2, 2022 2:10pm
- kevn
  
  @Warren… So you trusted ‘them’?
  
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  February 2, 2022 5:28pm
Yabster

From Hobsons Pledge:

Turns out the pricks have changed the rules on submissions being allowed via email-devious bastards:

“We are aware of technical issues that have blocked many attempts to make submissions to Parliament regarding the undemocratic Canterbury Regional Council (Ngāi Tahu Representation) Bill.

This Bill will mean separatism is once again being forced upon New Zealanders through the second attempt to entrench unelected tribal appointees into local government. We need to fight back.

We are extremely frustrated that those who have made submissions to Parliament have received emails back telling them that their submission has not been delivered. These issues have been caused by external factors outside of our control and as a result, we have deployed an experienced IT team to urgently investigate and help ensure that Parliament does not silence your democratic voice.

One of the roadblocks our supporters have faced is that this “open and transparent” Government have decided that submissions made via email during a pandemic suddenly do not count. We’ve spoken to MPs and experienced Parliamentary staff who have told us that it is unprecedented for a Select Committee (in this case the Maori Affairs Select Committee) to refuse to accept email submissions.

We believe this is wrong and an affront to democracy, especially during the Omicron outbreak. As a result, we will be printing each and every single submission we have and hand-delivering them to Parliament.

Given this, to make sure that your submission does not fall through the cracks and is not ignored by Parliament, we invite you all to follow the link below to make your submission.
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February 2, 2022 2:12pm
Maggie Pie

A friend from work txts…..

‘Did anyone else just hear Ashley admitting vaxx side-effects?’

https://academia.edu/62695286/PFIZERS_APPENDIX_1_EXPLOSIVE_LIST_OF_ADVERSE_EVENTS_OF_SPECIAL_INTEREST
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February 2, 2022 2:32pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… ‘Safe’ she tells us. Now Pfizer are pushing ahead with 6 months to 5 year old childrens jabs. FFS
  
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  February 2, 2022 5:26pm
  - mawm
    
    Kevn – You left out the “effective and”.
    
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    February 2, 2022 6:05pm
Sparrow

$36.50 per jab.
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February 2, 2022 2:34pm
- kevn
  
  @Sparrow… that lasts a few months maybe. Get on the vax treadmill folks. Not.
  
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  February 2, 2022 5:27pm
- Bridgenag
  
  Don’t forget to add in the doctors, nurses and others directing the traffic. Probably works out more like $100
  
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  February 3, 2022 7:59am
lifesgood

I’m curious to know whether scanning in is enshrined in law or if it is only a directive. If it’s a directive it cannot be enforced. If it’s a law thousands are breaking the law every day.
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February 2, 2022 2:35pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I have never scanned in and only occasionally signed in.
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:51pm
nathie

Are we being had by Labour?

Ardern and Hipkins vanish for a few days after being called out by Charlotte Bellis & therefore avoid media scrutiny (including international media).

Then Ardern and Hipkins re-appear today …. to make an announcement!

Which then becomes the MSM’s new talking points (nevermind the Charlotte Bellis issue)!

So was the decision to reduce the time between boosters (from 4 to 3 months) made up on the hoof?

What happens next time the PM is called out and a senior Minister threatened with legal action? Vanish for a few days then re-emerge to make a new announcement (like reducing the booster timeframe to 2 months … or something else), to change the media narrative?

The Labour spin machine keeps on accelerating!
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February 2, 2022 2:39pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Hipkins was asked if he would apologize to Bellis and he was trying to wriggle his way out of it before Ardern interrupted and saved him from further embarrassment.
  As usual she shut the question down – obviously because it was too hard for her – and diverted attention to a different question.
  Talk about the weak leading the weaker.
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:13pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Just read Stuff if you want to know the official Labour spin on anything.
  
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  February 2, 2022 3:53pm
  - kevn
    
    @Alan… I know someone who actually ‘donates’ to stuff. Only one person mind you.
    
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    February 2, 2022 5:22pm
    - marcw
      
      We all do kevn – they receive a share of the $105million (so far) taxpayer funded “journalism” grant. Whenever their support banner pops up on their website, I always click on the “I’ve already contributed” link (it’s in small print on the bottom left).
      
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      February 2, 2022 8:08pm
Maggie Pie

You’ll remember last month I posted about the Croc wearing old Ginga that pushed past me in the self-checkout lane of NW and said something like… “Balenciaga Masks aren’t worth a tin of sh*t”

Well – look who gets the last larf? 😀

https://twitter.com/people/status/1488593027606069255
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February 2, 2022 4:10pm
- graham
  
  Ah yes, Kim Kardashian – the very antithesis of class and refinement. 🙂
  
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  February 2, 2022 5:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda Ardern wants me to get a booster so that I will protect our Health system…

Well, I thought that was her f****ing job!.

I try and avoid our Health system as much as I can – and hence not put a strain upon it… and as far as I can see, me getting a booster is going to do bugger all for protecting our health system.
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February 2, 2022 5:30pm
Prince

Some inconvenient questions for the incompetent Govt.
When did they receive the medical advice that 3 months between 2nd shot and booster was OK ?
Why did it take 4 weeks for the Health IT guys to change the system from 6 months to 4 months, but 3 days to change from 4 months to 3 months ? (The real answer is they were away on holiday but they will never tell the truth on that).
Why do Ardern, Robertson and Hipkins insist the Govt did not take over private companies’ RATS orders, when Bloomfield admits they did ?
Will anyone ask when the booster stocks ‘best before’ date is, and how that relates to the decision to move to 3 months ? I’m sure the Labour liars will say there is no connection, but will they give all the data to verify that ?
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February 2, 2022 6:08pm
Ra Henare

Came acroos this lecture regarding the US Covid response.
This from a guy working in the White House.

Replay white house with NZ.
Fauci/Blix with Ashley Bloomfield

and it could be an exact copy of the NZ situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6kmm70ji5c
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February 2, 2022 6:34pm
Maggie Pie

Things seem to be getting sillier by the week!

We spotted a big Blowie in the dining-room earlier….so thort it best I shoot up to the Indians before dinner and grab a can of Fly Spray.

Do you know – it no longer says “KILLS FLYS DEAD” on the container?
Nope! Now it’s just….. “Knocks Down Flying Insects”

Honestly, we both noticed something similar the other day when my partner bought a bottle of ‘Aunt Jemima’s Pancake Syrup’……her face has disappeared off the label.
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February 2, 2022 7:09pm
Jack5

Latest NZ apartheid, but well, Maori did beat Marconi to invent radio, otherwise they couldn’t have been using spectrum before the treaty in 1840 …

Maori have been allocated, free, 20 per cent of future allocations of radio frequency for commercial purposes.

The Herald reports late today that the deal was announced by Communications Minister David Clarke [Clark] and Maori Development Minister Wily-Willie Jackson after negotiations with the Maori Spectrum Working Group.

The Herald says the deal appears designed to remove a barrier to auction of 5G spectrum. The auction of the previous 4G spectrum for cellphones brought the Government $249 million.

The claim follows granting portion of the radio spectrum. The Herald also reports the grant to Maori includes:

– Continuing allocation of unused spectrum in some other bands;
– A Maori role in spectrum policymaking;
– Establishment of a Maori “spectrum entity with funding of $32m for the first five years of operation.
– Initial capital funding of $25m to allow the entity to invest in a spectrum/digital technology business.

A victory for Jackson that tops his Maori takeover of Radio NZ.

Thank you, Ardern. Where will National stand on this?
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February 2, 2022 8:04pm
- Jack5
  
  Sadly, the report’s behind the Herald pay wall, but for those who have access:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/maori-to-be-allocated-20pc-of-airwaves-at-no-cost-but-treaty-claim-persists/NDCMKTQNMVLUOP44OBGFQDUBK4/
  
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  February 2, 2022 8:10pm
  - Russ the Muss
    
    I just don’t understand this. I can see an argument for Maori on ‘things’ that were here when they were here and any apparent theft of said things. However an intangible asset that didn’t exist back in 1840, I just don’t see what legal or moral basis there is to give maori 20% of that asset. And who in maori gets that??? It won’t be me!!!! Very depressing where this is all going… this is smacls of pure greed and lust for money, there is nothing customery or tradational about a radio spectrum. This needs to be called out and luxon needs to stand against this sort of garbage.
    
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    February 2, 2022 9:00pm
info@cruzpro.com

Kaipera councilors who have not been vaccinated will not be allowed free access to Rapid Antigen Tests.
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February 2, 2022 8:06pm
Kiwi

The Trudeau government has given hundreds of millions of dollars to Canadian media company’s . Once again we have a bias MSM outlets becoming mouth piece of another lefty liberal government. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10464185/Tucker-Carlson-slams-tyrant-Justin-Trudeau-trucker-protests-Ottawa-Canada-border.html#comments
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February 2, 2022 8:40pm
Suze Wainwright

So Audrey Young says NZ’s reputation has taken a hammering – not Aotearoa’s reputation. How fickle!
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February 2, 2022 10:11pm
Clownworld

How do you walk back slowly away from ineffectual vaccines without being lynched by the mob you created?

Create artifical short supply on purpose and at the 11th hour magically supply the ratcheted up demand. Like RATs?

In the meantime most won’t notice when MIQ is removed,the magician’s sleight of hand.

The freedom is still reduced. The govt control remains. The future just as uncertain as it was 2yrs ago.
Giving back only half freedoms. Frog heat up halfway, semi cooked and didn’t jump out of pot.

Relax. Klaus and co got this. It will hurt and you vill ve happy vor else!
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