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Ron Jeremy

A rumour doing the rounds as to reason wedding got cancelled not postponed last night . This morning Convinda in self isolation . Something smells fishy to me.

[Mod – let’s not deal in rumours]
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December 30, 2021 8:09am
- Cassandra
  
  The main media outlets in NZ deal in rumours all the time. It seems to be their stock-in-trade.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:42am
- Lee C
  
  Heh [or common knowledge].
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:48am
- krazykiwi
  
  When the going gets tough, bullies run an hide. On that point I note that Trudeau also in isolation.
  
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  January 30, 2022 12:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Can Sir Ian Taylor have accomplished in a few hours something which Hipkins and Bloomfield and their underlings haven’t been able to achieve for months?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/01/covid-19-hopes-sir-ian-taylor-s-deal-to-import-25-million-rapid-antigen-tests-will-save-new-zealand-from-testing-shortages.html
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January 30, 2022 8:03am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Given the shear number of unclean, infectious, “vaccinated” covid carriers walking around our streets I would say 25 million RATS is not anywhere even close to enough.
  
  Try 5 million times 365 days 1.825 billion.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:08am
  - artemisia
    
    And talking of shearing (I know I know) Australia is coming after NZ shearers. Some of our top shearers travel between NZ and Oz in the season, mostly not happening inbound now. And we usually bring in some from the UK, good luck with MIQ.
    
    New Zealand has one or two sheep and a bit of a contribution to GDP. Has the government calculated the impact of their recent policies on this sector and its contribution to the coffers? Rhetorical question.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:05am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Better consult Sir Cullen’s Sidekick on this one.
      He/she seems to have a good deal of intimate knowledge of sheep and their handlers, voting patterns and so on.
      
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      January 30, 2022 10:28am
    - curry4me
      
      artemesia: My maternal grandpa used to do that.
      
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      January 30, 2022 8:00pm
- cmm
  
  Note what really happened here: they bribed the government.
  
  They really wanted was 1.1 million for 23 large businesses. The only way they could get that was to give the government a 25 million RAT bribe!
  
  Hundreds have already been trying to import them and have been thwarted by Cindy’s mob confiscating them at the border or off shelves.
  
  The only reason a Sir can now pull it off is that he has sufficient political whack and they are paying this massive bribe.
  
  That 1.1 million for the 23 large businesses is about the rate you really need to be using RATs for screening (if you’re going to use them).
  
  A large business in NZ is probably less than 500 people, so 23 large businesses is probably around 10,000 people or about 100 RATs per person. ie 20 per person per month over the next 5 months.
  
  Scaled to the whole of NZ that’s 500 M RATs or 100 M per month. Many don’t need them so let’s say 250M or 50M per month.
  
  The current stolen stock is around 4 to 5 million (ie one for each Kiwi).
  
  Cindy’s mob have ordered 20 million to be delivered at 1 million a month.
  That’s one per month.
  
  The 25 M RAT bribe gets us another 1 per month (over a 5 month period).
  
  The way RATs are supposed to be used, three or so a week, we still have a shortfall of 150M RATs.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:25am
  - Local Miller
    
    Note, you don’t need to do a RAT test every day. Our qualified tester has confirmed we are “clean” for 3 days after a test, so test only every 3rd day.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:13am
    - cmm
      
      Except that RATs are a bit less reliable, meaning people keep testing until they get the result they want/expect.
      
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      January 30, 2022 11:40am
- Boutique Avo Orchard
  
  Ian Taylor for PM!
  
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  January 30, 2022 12:02pm
  - Nickc2
    
    That’s not beyond the realms of possibility.
    
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    January 30, 2022 2:52pm
- Ra Henare
  
  The PEP [PPE] fiasco revisited.!!!
  Solution provided by Adults in a few days.
  
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  January 30, 2022 4:07pm
I remember when

It’s getting hard to be a “conspiracy theorist.”
Now you almost have to believe that 5,671,277 people have died solely because of covid.
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January 30, 2022 8:03am
- kevn
  
  @I rem… Elon Musk is onto it as well.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:33am
- emmess
  
  Use the Brith figures from their FOIA request and divide by ten
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

Another link…

from 6:40
https://www.primetv.co.nz/news
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January 30, 2022 8:05am
ecco

Is anyone else enjoying the negative coverage Ardern is getting on the Daily Mail about her botched covid nz response from the likes of Dan Wootton and now David Seymour?
With it you get free to all, unmoderated commenting on Ardern that is bypassing her NZ covid relief media bribe fund mechanism, which muzzles any anti Ardern comments (that aren’t behind the Ferald paywall)

I think what you are getting on the likes of the DM is freedom of speech and unbiased political coverage. Something not seen in NZ since Ardern introduce the covid media bribe fund. Increasingly NZers appear to be turning to the likes of DM for their political news now that Ardern has muzzled the main NZ media sites.

All this free negative publicity for Ardern is going out to millions of global eyeballs that the Daily Mail attracts. Ardern’s chances of making the UN would be slipping by the day with this leakage of adverse commenting on the Daily Mail. Not to mention other international media outlets like the Telegraph and Financial times (google Matthew Lesh’s Ardern articles for some light reading…) Loving this. This is NOT the image Cindy wants to portray to the rest of the world!

Thanks also to Charlotte Bellis for highlighting the plight of the misery inflicted on all NZers with Ardern’s mongrel locking down of NZ life and locking down the border in the name of covid. Wootton’s description of the NZ miq system as creating a ‘humanitarian tragedy’ is an apt description for the growing number of NZ families that have been separated from dying relatives and just family in general by banning travel in and out of NZ.

For many people the most important thing in life is family and Ardern has deprived us of life’s most important moments, happy and sad, for well over two years now.
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January 30, 2022 8:07am
- Souvlaki
  
  This article too , is very good…but behind the Telegraph paywall….a one off read may be permitted ?https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/29/saint-jacinda-has-made-controlling-covid-iron-fisted-moral-mission
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:43am
  - ecco
    
    Maybe people can access it via press reader via their library card. Also heard of a media chrome extension…
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:26am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Press Reader. Best thing since sliced bread. Just join your local library, then use your library card number to access to anything the library subscribes to. The only thing you won’t get is your local newspaper. Which is not much loss.
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:38pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    From the link (I’m a subscriber):
    
    But now, as Omicron gently settles there, Ardern’s New Zealand has lost any remaining halo of Covid superiority. It looks neither ‘compassionate’, nor even ‘tough’ or ‘hardline’ but completely pathological. Mad. Bonkers. Pitiable. And not without a whiff of totalitarianism.
    
    You might think that a lefty as vocally committed to social justice and human rights as Ardern would shy away from draconian curbs based on a chimaera (zero covid). In the absence of a credible threat, it is a strategy whose main effect would be to destroy people’s livelihoods and will to live.
    
    In fact, those who purport, like Ardern, to be the most virtuous and “inclusive”, the keenest on helping the marginalised, are often all too comfortable playing fast and loose with the little people’s lives: and the keenest on controlling everyone. They love power – so long as it’s in their hands – and Covid has provided a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for grabbing it.
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:51pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Ardern’s New Zealand, however, is a different story, where lockdown mentality has been used to pursue a maniacally illiberal agenda.
      
      Saint Jacinda, so woke, so feminist, so unimpeachable, has blinded the world with her virtue, and in so doing has made controlling Covid not a balance of risks, but an iron-fisted moral mission. Within that context, almost any amount of masochism can be justified.
      
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      January 30, 2022 12:58pm
      - Clownworld
        
        Almost choked on my food. Laughed out loud when I read headline from Ferald…paywalled so didn”t need the full newspeak.
        
        “Thomas Coughlan: Jacinda Ardern told to isolate on likely wedding day, we wish her well”
        Herald
        
        Is there a more paid up media in the world?
        Perhaps North Korea although I hear they are opening up again after 2 year lockdown. NZ not so much.
        
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        January 30, 2022 2:40pm
Pongo

A very nasty bitchy Andrea Vance hit piece on Hipango calling for her to be fired and calling Luxon weak for not doing it.
Sure she might be a bit of a liability but the media are going after her in a vicious way that is reserved for National MPs they decide need to go is unseemly from a taxpayer funded organisation.
How about having a look at the performance of 96.8% of cabinet ministers and their failures.
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January 30, 2022 8:07am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I’m sure Harete Hipango is not the first MP, of any stripe, to feel aggrieved at something on her Wikipedia page and seek to have it corrected. Golriz Ghahraman comes to mind…
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/the-green-mp-and-the-genocide-hearings
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:12am
  - pdm
    
    Surely people have the right to correct wrong information, presumably placed by others, on Wikepedia.
    
    May be not Luxons smartest move to censure Hipango if that is the case.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:04am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      That assumes the information on her Wikipedia page is inaccurate. I don’t know anything about the background to the allegations of inappropriate spending, but the issues about the two protests have been well canvassed in the public domain
      
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      January 30, 2022 10:56am
  - peterwn
    
    Some years ago an Auckland local politician (left leaning) was really having her Wikipedia ravaged by a political enemy (right leaning). This was such poor judgment by the latter that it ended his chances of being selected as a National candidate.
    So unfortunately it happens all the time.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:13am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      People playing such tricks should really employ a professional like Simon Lusk to run the operation for them.
      
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      January 30, 2022 10:45am
      - pdm
        
        If they had the time lefties would get Nicky Hager gto write a book.
        
        Ooops forgot – that is scheduled to be released in July/August nest year as per past editions.
        
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        January 30, 2022 12:03pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Which book did he write for the 2020 election?
        
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        January 30, 2022 3:41pm
    - Drone
      
      @PDM we should start speculating on the title and content it’s going to be a fantasy so whatever w come up with will be more interesting than what Nicky produces..
      
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      January 30, 2022 4:13pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Don’t journalists pride themselves on speaking truth to power?
  
  Which surely means first & foremost holding government ministers to account, not opposition back benchers.
  
  Andrea Vance is a disgrace to journalists everywhere.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:16am
  - Paulus
    
    Why is Vance called a journalist – she is just another tax paid for shit stirer
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:38am
- Nickc2
  
  Andrea Vance – A nasty piece of human excrement.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It would be interesting to discover who Harete Hipango has crossed in the Left.
  
  The hit jobs on her have been non-stop since she got back into Parliament, although she was being worked over in her first stint.
  
  Is she a threat to the Whanganui Māori Party cabal?
  Is it because as a successful Maori Woman she doesn’t fit the picture of a colonised victim?
  Or is it just that as a conservative, RC, she’s an easy hit for the left?
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:59am
  - pdm
    
    Maggy probably because you just cannot have a Maori lady in the National caucus.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:05am
    - oldfella
      
      pdm, maybe Hipango would be more acceptable to the left if she got a moko. /s
      
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      January 30, 2022 12:01pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        In this case, I think the /s is superfluous
        
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        January 30, 2022 1:40pm
  - Prince
    
    Many on the left display special viciousness towards National Maori MP’s.
    Almost as though they can at last release their restrained racism.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:18am
  - Swifty
    
    The left reserve a special type of hatred for those who they believe should be lefties by dint of their gender or race or other victim status and who leave the reservation. The last thing lefties want is for members of ‘permanent victim’ communities seeing an alternative to voting left.
    
    Being successful and Maori and a woman means Hipango will be especially both loathed and targeted.
    
    She must be punished you see for her sin of joining National and to serve as a warning to others of a similar mind.
    
    And, you’ll note, this is a phenomenon seen all around the western world. It’s most notable of course in the States, where the Dems are most savage towards conservative Blacks, Hispanics and women. Most savage.
    
    Watching lefties go after them is very educational; it shows us all their true face.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:36am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    The Left see her as an “Uncle Tom”.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:59am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Maybe she’s just not very capable. Lots of MPs, from all parties, are just not very good at the job.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:47am
    - Clownworld
      
      Sure name them all? Or should we make a short short list of the very capable ones?
      
      Still need to define capable for an MP. Low bar for capability I would imagine.
      
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      January 30, 2022 11:42am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The Left have been out to get Hipango from the get go
      
      Remember when TVNZ thought it was “funny” to mock her name
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/121668278/tvnz-show-pulled-after-mori-mp-complains-twice-over-name-mocking
      
      Wouldn’t happen with a Maori affiliated to the Labour Party I suspect.
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:24pm
- emmess
  
  Hey DPF
  How about giving Harete Hipango the right of reply here at Kiwiblog?
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:33am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Na,
    she should do what her Boss tells her…and stay focused on holding this Government to account.
    
    Clearly, she is a threat to some folks in Labour.
    
    Perhaps she has a clue as to where the Maori health $$$$$ have been disappearing.
    
    ”We all know there was never a Māori vaccination plan,” Tamihere said. “The plan was to throw money at the problem. I don’t know what happened [to the money].”
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/127600657/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-gave-staff-36-hours-to-organise-mori-vaccination-tour
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:15am
  - Man Among the Ruins
    
    “How about giving Harete Hipango the right of reply here at Kiwiblog?”
    
    This is a great idea, but I think that such a right of reply would probably be too much free speech for the Free Speech Union to handle.
    
    I am currently reading a great little book “The Power of the Powerless” by Vaclav Havel written in 1978. Havel was a dissident writing in communist Czechoslovakia, and later went on to become the final leader of Czechoslovakia from 1989 until 1992.
    
    This is a great passage explaining the danger posed to a power structure largely sustained by mass buy-in to the ideological lie, a lie that cements the system together, and why those who dare to speak the truth or act in a way that undermines the lie, and thereby “break the rules of the game,” are set upon so fervently.
    The passage is in the context of a greengrocer who decides one day to “live within the truth” (instead of living within the lie), and refuses display a ubiquitous ideological slogan (a sentiment not reflected in the system’s reality) “Workers of the world unite!” Hipango has, analogously, acted in a way that has broken the rules of the game, hence the invective:
    
    “By breaking the rules of the game, he has disrupted the game as such. He has exposed it as a mere game. He has shattered the world of appearances, the fundamental pillar of the system. He has upset the power structure by tearing apart what holds it together. He has demonstrated that living a lie is living a lie. He has broken through the exalted facade of the system and exposed the real, base foundations of power. He has said that the emperor is naked. And because the emperor is in fact naked, something extremely dangerous has happened: by his action, the greengrocer has addressed the world. He has enabled everyone to peer behind the curtain. He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can co-exist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety.”
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:43pm
- Surely Knott
  
  She’s not a liability. Luxon needs to stand up for freedom, freedom of thought and bodily autonomy. The vaccine doesn’t stop spread. Good on Hipango I hope luxon swaps her into Chris Bishops role
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:43am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Good idea. Bishop is an old politician stuck in a young politician’s body.
    
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    January 30, 2022 1:05pm
- KiwiSapper
  
  I have no idea where you live or if you have any knowledge about Hipango. But I live in Wanganui and remind you that 90 % of an iceberg is hidden from sight.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:37pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I live in Gisborne.
    I was born in Wanganui and lived there for my first 20 years.
    
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    January 30, 2022 4:21pm
Tony Stuart

A week ago Chris Luxon might have been feeling aggrieved not having been invited to got to Waitangi to pre-record a Waitangi Day message.

But with the news last night that the PM and Governor-General Dame Cindy Kiro are required to isolate after being deemed to be close contacts of an Omicron positive person on the flight from Kerikeri to Auckland, he may in fact be more relieved!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-governor-general-dame-cindy-kiro-isolating-after-scare-nz-should-brace-for-cases-to-double-roughly-every-three-days/I5FTRG4MBJUNXLUMKDVTVGQIYA/

And if the PM should happen to test positive, that means that Wednesday’s Cabinet meeting will become a location of interest, and the whole government will be required to self-isolate!
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January 30, 2022 8:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  How convenient.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:09am
  - kevn
    
    @Maggy… Indeed, doing a ‘trudeau’.
    
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    January 30, 2022 8:35am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Well what do you expect? They along with Macron have the same handlers.
      
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      January 30, 2022 8:46am
  - SpencerArnold
    
    yeah I would like to see an OIA on the test results, to check sequence numbers (Djokvic anyone?)
    
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    January 30, 2022 11:48am
- G152
  
  Please
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:10am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  How can this be, they are “vaccinated ” right.
  
  Would it help if they could take an antibody tests to see if they have already had covid.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:15am
  - CJames
    
    She was boosted as well, IIRC
    
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    January 30, 2022 8:44am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      Cjames apparently she was vaccinated and boosted but we know her track record with the truth
      
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      January 30, 2022 8:49am
    - The Boss
      
      And she wore her mask on the plane, I presume.
      
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      January 30, 2022 9:23am
    - Observer of Life
      
      CJ: “ She was boosted as well, IIRC”. Was she?
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:10pm
  - Scooter
    
    BTW Has anyone in Govt had covid in the past 2 years? Seems abit strange if not being it’s so contagious and they’re out in public.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:59am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Nothing new there – they’ve been isolating themselves from New Zealanders for years.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:17am
  - Scooter
    
    She’ll want to to isolate after the shit week they’ve had. Talk about having to swallow a dead RAT
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:02am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      She will be in good company. Her (similarly vaccinated) mate Trudeau has now scurried away like a drain rat, claiming a positive Covid test, just as 1.4 million Canadians and 50,000 trucks turn up at Parliament in Ottawa to demand that he drop vaccine mandates or resign. It seems inconsistent to act this way towards a “fringe minority”, even if they hold “unacceptable views” (a phrase which gives us a peek behind the facade of the democratic ideals these people love to proclaim in their rhetoric).
      
      Are these momentous events being covered in our truth-loving local MSM?
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYMS2-IVTDg
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_IsXrQUyQ
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:01pm
- Marcus Vinicius
  
  That includes Dr Bloomers as a close contact to the PM.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:18am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yes, because the PM and Dr Bloomfield will have met before, and possibly after, their joint media conference at 11am last Sunday, the day after Jacinda Ardern was potentially exposed to Omicron.
    
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    January 30, 2022 8:32am
- Nickc2
  
  Bring it on!
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:22am
- Sacha
  
  24 days? Hahahahahahahaha.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:37am
- pdm
  
  No Inv – she only invites Grunter, Chippy Ayesha Megan, Nanaia and Saint Ashley to Cabinet Meetings these days.
  
  Got to keep it exclusive you know.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:08am
- R
  
  and the whole government will be required to self-isolate!
  
  14 days or 24?
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:09am
  - pdm
    
    If it is 24 daysjust think how much that will save taxpayers from crap spending.
    
    Pretty much all of February with not waste – that will surely be a record fo Labour.
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:07pm
- The Other Enoch
  
  I thought they had been self isolating since mid December. Haven’t seen Angry Andy for a looong time. Good, aye?
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:18am
- westernScientest
  
  the new witless protection?
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:20am
- DeepBlue
  
  JA will never Covid test positive. She may just get a cold from time to time.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:32am
Maggy Wassilieff

I doubt that our MSM will be able to report an “alleged” unvaxxed person who jumped a fence onto the PM’s plane as they did for the super-spreader music festival.
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January 30, 2022 8:08am
- Nickc2
  
  Omicron will henceforth be known in NZ as the ‘Faux Waitangi Day Disease’. That’d most likely be the last time Cindy and the GG were together.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:16am
- Pavel
  
  I couldn’t help but notice, in the reporting of her now isolating, this comment:
  “Governor General Dame Cindy Kiro and a key adviser to Ardern, her chief press secretary Andrew Campbell, are also isolating.”
  So one of her “key advisors” is her press secretary. Gotta keep the spin doctor close and and on speed dial these days.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:31am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Maybe they shared vapes…
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:50am
- Opie
  
  It’s great because the unvaxxed on board will have had a negative test before getting on the plane so it definitely wasnt them that spread it.
  
  Why is it, with the most transmissible strain ever (and all the previous strains too) there is so little transmission from flights, public transport etc which keep getting named as locations of interest?
  
  Dont tell me masks are working? I cant see how given the way people wear them or through sheer particle size vs material size.
  
  Seems like a bit of flop really.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:53am
slightlyrighty

So, the PM is in isolation. One way to avoid those pesky media questions I guess….
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January 30, 2022 8:08am
- Unity
  
  I’m wondering if it is all a ruse on the PM’s part. Maybe she’s trying to look as though she is having to ‘go through all of this too’? Relatable to the minions in other words. What a suspicious mind I’ve got!!
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Been known to tell lies before …..
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:28pm
Pongo

Our tracing system is working as efficiently as the rest of the MOH. It took 7 days for it to get round to telling the PM she needs to isolate for 10 days so we now have the absurd situation where she only has 3 days left to go.
Not fit for purpose and neither is Bloomfield.
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January 30, 2022 8:10am
Nickc2

Standby for more 105s incoming. The NSW police have just arrested 115 Outlaw Motor Cycle gang members.
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January 30, 2022 8:10am
- Cassandra
  
  501?
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:44am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Did you hear the one about the dyslexic devil-worshiper?
    
    He sold his soul to Santa.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:50am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, sorry.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:53am
I remember when

So John Campbell’s podcast says that the ‘scientific’ data is that –
Vaccination and booster dose have little, if any, effect on whether you become infected with Omicron.
Masks, at best, have a limited role in prevention of Omicron.
He doesn’t have any facts on vaccine passports.
Perhaps they aren’t scientific.
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January 30, 2022 8:11am
- mandk
  
  Dr Campbell’s latest is about a hit job the BBC has done on him.
  
  It’s sad that such a once revered institution had sunk so low.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:58am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bza1gAc8sOA
    
    For those interested Dr Campbell responds to the BBC article…
    
    I noted the BBC say they contacted Dr Campbell.. Dr Campbell says they have not.
    
    Journalistic standards have slipped so far that the once greatest news organisation in the world has dropped to tabloid levels.
    
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    January 30, 2022 11:50am
    - krazykiwi
      
      BBC ‘Wokeday Schedule’
      
      https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1487031604316975107
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:11pm
      - Jim
        
        Funny but true, it’s a shame many naive normies still lap up the main stream media propaganda believing it to be a fair representation of the world.
        
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        January 30, 2022 8:04pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    He has a bigger audience than any BBC news show, because he is honest and apolitical (truly just following evidence). This is likely driven by a combination of jealousy and big pharma’s commercial agenda.
    
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    January 30, 2022 1:28pm
- Yvette
  
  There is still the farce of vaccine passport expiry dates, which all relate to the arbitrary download of the pass from the Internet, rather than to the date of a second injection, which is now highlighted as so stupid in respect to the vastly urged necessity of a booster.
  
  Many vaccination passes should, of course, have been issued with an expiry date which had expired – but that would have looked bad, incompetent and unjust, but also medically scientific, urgent and perhaps life saving – FFS
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:35am
Warren

Most people in New Zealand know that our economy is in trouble with inflation at 5.9 % or thereabouts except Labour, our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern Grant Robertson our Finance Minister and the media who blame every thing except poor political choices for the rise.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/127626878/the-you-survived-two-lockdowns-and-all-you-got-was-this-inflation-tshirt-political-strategy
When are these supposed knowledgeable people that want to criticize Chris Luxon for his comments going to wake up to the fact you can’t spend Taxpayers funds on i’ll thought policies like drunken sailors without consequences .
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January 30, 2022 8:16am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes Indeed, A slow train wreck in motion. Supply chains increasingly restricted by Governments restrictive Covid policies.
  
  Wait till Oil goes $US 100 bbl. We have seen the rise of Gas World wide due mainly to “Green ” policies and Geopolitical tensions etc.
  
  Lucky we have a PM and her “Nuclear Moment” saving us all Aye !
  
  What could go wrong?
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:46am
- Ra Henare
  
  I have to laugh when the Minister of Finance tries to blow off NZs high rate of inflation as being a global problem. ie eveyone is in for high inflation.
  
  Shame nobody in the media bother to actually look around at other countries inflation rate.
  It would VERY quickly expose the Finance Minsters as once again, telling porkies.
  
  It would seem that only South Africa and Spain have higher inflation than NZ in major countries
  
  https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate?continent=world
  
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  January 30, 2022 3:03pm
- Jim
  
  It’s higher than 5.9% in my reality.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:07pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Cancelling her wedding has turned out to be a lucky break for Jacinda. Imagine the furore if her wedding turned out to be a superspreader event!
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January 30, 2022 8:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like the PMs TV special trip to Waitangi might be a superspreader.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:45am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Hmmm – I can’t recall the timing of Jaxxie announcing her wedding cancellation vs the Waitangi trip. Could it be that the ‘self-sacrifice’ was actually the result of her knowing that she would be in isolation?
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:55am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      She announced the wedding cancellation at last Sunday’s (23rd Jan) hurried Announcement that NZ was going to traffic Light red.
      
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      January 30, 2022 10:23am
    - Observer of Life
      
      It certainly wasn’t cancelled due the bracelet. He would have been wearing long trousers so no one would know.
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:18pm
Hollyfield

We’ve talked previously about the inconsistencies in mask rules – for example when masks were first made compulsory on flights the rule was you didn’t have to wear a mask while moving past people in a crowded at the airport, but did have to wear one while on the plane, but didn’t have to wear one while drinks/food were served – everyone I know who took a domestic flight made their half cup of water last an hour to avoid wearing the mask.

Here’s another example from the Govt’s covid website:
All ākonga (students) Years 4 and up must wear face masks indoors and when in close contact with others.
All ākonga aged 12 and up do not need to wear a face mask when at special interest education, such as music lessons, art groups and girl guides.

So you need to wear a mask while learning maths between 9am and 3pm, but not while in the after school art class. Where’s the logic? Can children catch covid only during school hours? Or while learning certain subjects only? Also the age requirements don’t make sense – do students under 12 have to wear a mask in the art class? I suspect not, since they don’t have to wear a mask in class for the first 3 years.

https://covid19.govt.nz/traffic-lights/life-at-red/education-at-red/early-learning-schools-and-kura-at-red/
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January 30, 2022 8:27am
- Rich Prick
  
  The virus isn’t into the arts. These “rules” defy logic.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:50am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The virus isn’t into the arts.
    
    That’s because it is a “clever” virus
    
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-variants-mutations-vaccines-latest-b1832152.html
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:53am
- All_on_Red
  
  Studies in US School Districts show there’s no difference in case numbers between those Districts who had mask mandates and those which didn’t.
  https://reason.com/2022/01/28/why-cant-the-cdc-admit-there-is-no-solid-evidence-to-support-universal-masking-in-schools/
  Cloth masks are pointless and basically just facial decoration
  Its one thing to wear a mask for say 30 minutes on Public Transport but for hours during a school day?
  I do have concerns about re breathing what has been exhaled. It cant be healthy.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:26am
  - Other_Andy
    
    Jut received a bunch of N95 masks, the ones a level up from the surgical masks.
    The manufacturer, Dräger, gives the following warning on its information sheet:
    “These particulate respirators are not intended for use as protection against bacterial or viral agents such as avian (bird) flu virus, SARS or any other bacterial, viral or biological agents.”
    
    Even though the manufacturer states that they don’t work and EVERY ‘expert’ and official told us a year ago that they don’t work and EVERY study shows there is no significant difference in infection rates when wearing them, people still wear them and think they protect them.
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:25am
    - krazykiwi
      
      They are compliance muzzles, and function as a fear distribution mechanism. They inhibit good communication and stunt the cognitive development of infants.
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:16pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    I understand that the CDC has already said that, along with the WHO.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:38am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      But our very own Min of Health has yet to review all the scientific advice….
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/460037/covid-19-mask-advice-under-review-as-omicron-community-transmission-confirmed
      
      even though it’s been plainly obvious for yonks that most masks do little else but prevent hoick and snot from landing on some unsuspecting soul.
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/460037/covid-19-mask-advice-under-review-as-omicron-community-transmission-confirmed
      
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      January 30, 2022 12:39pm
Yvette

Jacinda isolating
The Prime Minister and Governor-General Dame Cindy Kiro had been in Northland prerecording at the Waitangi Treaty Grounds for the Waitangi Day broadcast next weekend.
They were exposed during flight NZ8273 from Kerikeri to Auckland on Saturday January 22. The flight was added to the Ministry of Health website as a location of interest this evening.
Whole-genome sequencing is expected to show the case has been infected with the Omicron variant.
All other passengers on board NZ8273 are also close contacts and need to self-isolate, get tested immediately and remain in isolation for 10 days following their exposure. They will also need to follow further requirements from public health officials.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/01/covid-19-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-going-into-self-isolation-after-being-deemed-close-contact-of-positive-case.html

1 – When Waitangi Celebrations have been cancelled, are media and thence “the people” going to ask, Why was Ardern, with the Governor General (the other Cindy) in drag (old-fashioned meaning: she was dragged along too) to do a false prerecording at the Waitangi Treaty Grounds of a powhiri two weeks early, which state TVNZ refused to video, so DISCOVERY (Three) did it instead, but lacking context now, how will it be used? Like the victims of Pike River, they should not have even been there.

2 – Christopher Luxon is not having to isolate, because he was included out, so wasn’t present, at the powhiri or on the flight – democracy ~~in action~~ inaction.

3 – Jacinda will “will be tested immediately tomorrow [now today] and will isolate until Tuesday” while “All other passengers on board NZ8273 are also close contacts and need to self-isolate, get tested immediately and remain in isolation for 10 days following their exposure” and “The Governor-General and members of her staff are following the same isolation instructions” – so Jacinda three days, everyone else 10.
Has anyone explained the difference to the covid virus?

4 – and a minor point: another article, “PM isolating after scare, NZ should brace for cases to double roughly every three days”, dated January 29 2022, said “A statement released by the Prime Minister’s office shortly after 10pm last night” so did that mean Friday night, and if so, why did it take most of Saturday before and media mentioned the issue – the Prime Minister isolating – at all?

5 – Delivering her first Waitangi address, Ardern stood on the mahau of Te Whare Rūnanga on the upper Treaty grounds and asked to be held to account.
When we return, in one year, in three years, I ask you to ask of us what we have done. Ask us how we have given dignity back to your whānau, ask us what we have done to improve poverty for tamariki, ask us what we have done to give rangatahi opportunities and jobs. Ask us, hold us to account. Because one day I want to be able to tell my child that I earned the right to stand here and only you can tell me when I have done that.

So what is the false powhiri for – arranging herself to be welcomed at Wairangi – So “what we have done”? – Had half of the now disputed and trashed Climate Commission Report, supposedly inspired by Te Ao Maori and printed in te reo (about 200 of 402 pages), designated partnership governance in the controversial “3 Waters” , which is totally misunderstood by 37 percent of the people TVNZ asked and rejected by another 40 percent, and rolled out covid vaccine in a way inequitable to Maori. And there’s more, that we haven’t been quite transparently , honest or displayed integrity in doing
– like the powhiri.
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January 30, 2022 8:30am
- Taieri
  
  I ask you to ask of us what we have done.
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  Bugger all.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:55am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Actually the Ardern administration has done a lot in the past 4 years. It has begun dismantling democracy. I give you Hate Speech Laws, 3 Waters, He Puapua, Covid restrictions.
    If re-elected in 2023 by 2026 New Zealand will have lost many of its democratic freedoms.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:07am
    - Taieri
      
      If re-elected in 2023 by 2026 New Zealand will have lost many of its democratic freedoms.
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      The only democratic aspect of NZ are elections. The winner takes all and to all intents and purposes is a dictator, albeit democratically elected and subject to removal. Our “democratic freedoms” exist at the pleasure of the government of the day and can be withdrawn at any time.
      
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      January 30, 2022 10:20am
- Amerikiwi
  
  It is perplexing that up to this point in time all prior flights listed as close contacts have only had to isolate for 5 days according to the MOH locations of interest register.
  
  Had the 5 days applied to this flight we wouldn’t be hearing about this flight as it was 8 days ago.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:22am
  - Nickc2
    
    If re-elected in 2023 by 2026 New Zealand will have lost many of its democratic freedoms.
    They’re working overtime on them as we speak, just in case they don’t get elected in 2023.
    Mind you, I can’t think of many they haven’t taken away already.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:10am
    - greybeard
      
      The worst thing about that is the total silence from both National and ACT in regard to reversing or cancelling these actions.
      
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      January 30, 2022 2:42pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Lucky escape for Chris
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:56am
- Paulus
  
  Keep hearing this word tamariki – another word to the rapidly increasing new publuc vocabulary as now on RNZ and TVNZ.
  Whole New World currently spoken by 2% of the population – but by all children in the future as taught in schools but like Maori with different dialectic languages depending who and where you are and whether the teachers can speak anything of it.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:48am
- oldfella
  
  Yvette, talking of 3 Waters, one of the 6pm TV news bulletins ran a story last night on widespread resistance to the project, but failed to mention a lot of the angst is because of the iwi involvement. In fact I haven’t yet seen a TV story that mentions that angle. Hmm.
  
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  January 30, 2022 11:19am
  - Yvette
    
    Oldfella, while media have not mentioned it, the “dots have been joined” here on kiwiblog several times, from Tainui not yet deciding who their representative to rule on the future use of Ihumatao to the South Island iwi still “discussing” the 20km strip of land raised up out of the ocean by the Kaikoura earthquake.
    Their is a sneaking suspicion that iwi differences, combined with Government non-delivery, may never see “3 Waters” eventuate. For once I will applaud their inaction, although lament the taxpayer funds demised in not achieving their goal – starting with the ads that showed animated mud geysering out of taps, while a whole new Government department was established mid-November last year to deal with that, and dismiss the Havelock North motivation behind the “3 Waters” muddying of the issue.
    
    Please see: https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz
    Wai ora. Tangata ora – Healthy water. Healthy people
    a very difficult website to Google because Government appears to want to hide it –
    that remark is intended to inspire people to have a quick look at it, and remember it exists
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:51pm
  - Ruahine
    
    I watched it.
    It was a propaganda piece for the Gov’t. Lying by omission. Typical MSM behaviour.
    
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    January 30, 2022 1:18pm
PeeJay

So by the timeline this will be her 8 day test, tuesday being the 10th day of self isolation under the covid rules. She apparently found out yesterday. Good to see our gold standard test and trace is doing such a great job!!!

Therefore, if she has a positive case, she could be a one person super spreader event!

And all because of a shameless decision to get a labour party political advert filmed at waitangi!
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January 30, 2022 8:37am
- Paulus
  
  Only if youcan be bothered to watch – I am not interested either.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:49am
Tasman devil

Daily we see stories of increasing pressure on food banks, rampant inflation, and other woes for the working poor and the lowlife who are strangers to work.

For the moronic half of the population who voted for Labour I say terrific karma and note my rental property portfolio has exploded in value, and I voted National.

Remember, be kind and enjoy your daily squalor and hunger in the Team of five million
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January 30, 2022 8:38am
Cassandra

Article headline in UK’s The Times this morning: “Jacinda Ardern loses sparkle…………………rival emerges”.
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January 30, 2022 8:40am
Cassandra

I’ve always thought that going to Waitangi was an exercise in masochism so there’s a degree of schadenfruede (sp?) in this exposure to the virus by Dear Leader.
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January 30, 2022 8:47am
TripeWryter

Crocodile tears sympathy from the guru Michael Baker in The New Zealand Herald this morning.
He sympathises with Charlotte Bellis; his two sons, in Australia and Canada, can’t get MIQ, either.
So, the subtext is obvious – he and his sons are suffering, too, in taking it for the team of five million. But he can still say, in effect, bugger you, Charlotte.
Well, bugger his faux sympathy.
My son in Melbourne has just been visited by omicron. He said he’s had worse colds.
His son has got it but he’s a tough little boy and he’ll be fine.
The youngest in the family, she’ll be 7 in a couple of weeks, she’s developed a serious cough.
Despite all that I still believe the New Zealand Government and its lackeys who make these decisions show bugger-all compassion and understanding to our people who simply want to come home including a woman who wants to have her baby safely here.
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January 30, 2022 8:58am
- surfing
  
  Baker should go and experience life in Afghanistan, clearly the guy thinks it is just like Australia.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:09am
Opie

Best story I have heard for a while.

A guy went into a shop in Auckland. As he went to scan in, the owner came running out and said “please dont scan in, if you catch it somewhere and we become a location of interest, we will have to shut down while we isolate and it will ruin us”

The guy replied, dont worry mate, I was just pretending to scan in!

This ends when we stand up against the stupidity.
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January 30, 2022 8:59am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  A parallel to the old joke coming out of Russia: we pretend to work while they pretend to pay us.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:58am
Cassandra

And almost the trifecta, there’s also a column in the UK’s Telegraph this morning criticising Jacinda Ardern. While it might be a long wait, I’ll keep checking the Guardian too. Absentee voters in the UK might take note. One of them is my granddaughter so I’ll be the first to find out how expats feel about her. All rose-tinted at present but with these papers turning on her we might start seeing some realism.
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January 30, 2022 9:07am
- krazykiwi
  
  If those absentee voters have not been to NZ in the three years prior to election day then they are ineligible to vote. Just wait. This will become a big issue on the next 12 months. There are a lot of angry, former Lab/Green voters who are currently disenfranchised.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:22pm
Master Mariner

This has got me thinking.
In my line of work ( Pre Covid) , Certain company positions were not allowed to Fly or Travel together.
Covid Times they are not allowed to circulate together.
So why is the PM and GG circulating? Is there any rules about this?
Same as Minister of Finance and say Reserve bank Governor,
Minister of Health and say DG of Health.
So why are they meeting and being in close contact with each other in Times of COVID?
Serious Question.
Surely in times of uncertainty you would not compromise your top executives by mingling?
However nothing surprises me.
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January 30, 2022 9:17am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Grant Robertson & Adrian Orr = key people?
  
  As the Cockneys would say, you’re ‘aving a larf!
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:59am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  MM
  
  These rules were bought in after most of the Wilhelmson senior management was wiped out in a charter plane crash.
  
  They had people in the Management Posns within a week from their overseas branches.
  
  HM. PoW and Prince William amd George are not allowed to fly together.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:13am
- cmm
  
  There is a key difference.
  
  If people fly together and crash (what they’re worried about) and die, then they’re gone forever leaving a big hole which might take a year or two for the company to sort out and also scaring the share holders.
  
  Get CV19 and you sneeze a bit, maybe take two days off and do some Zoom calls for two weeks. Big deal.
  
  Cindy took 6 weeks off to pop a sprog and nobody really noticed.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Here is my serous answer. If they were both out of action for a couple of weeks there would be an acting Minister and an acting CE. Nobody would notice anything different.
  
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  January 30, 2022 11:36am
- krazykiwi
  
  It is informally known as a ‘Royal Family Policy’. At one time I was a director and executive of a large corporate that had such a policy. I was the only exec living outside Akl so that helped. It definitely makes sense, being part of key person risk management practices.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:27pm
  - Alwynn
    
    I thought it was a joke when I first heard the story but the US Government has one member of the Cabinet who does not attend events where all the other people in the line of succession to the Presidency will be there. These are things like the State of the Union speech to Congress.
    If you don’t believe it here is the list.
    https://www.senate.gov/reference/CabinetMembers_NotAttendSofUA.htm
    
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    January 30, 2022 8:47pm
dubya

Darien Fenton on Twitter, questioning Charlotte Bellis’ ‘questionable’ decision to go to Afghanistan. Would have thought with her history she’d have some sympathy for questionable trips to Afghanistan… https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/darien-fenton-its-a-miracle-i-survived/7XKLGH5PPV7SID7IVPWHNSKK2I/
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January 30, 2022 9:20am
Thought Criminal

“For most of last year, many of us called for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to release its data on reinfection rates, but the agency refused. Finally last week, the CDC released data from New York and California, which demonstrated natural immunity was 2.8 times as effective in preventing hospitalization and 3.3 to 4.7 times as effective in preventing Covid infection compared with vaccination.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-high-cost-of-disparaging-natural-immunity-to-covid-vaccine-mandates-protests-fire-rehire-employment-11643214336
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January 30, 2022 9:20am
Maggy Wassilieff

Finally we have some Covid cases in the Gisborne District. (wed & Thurs)

https://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/local-news/20220129/three-new-cases-not-linked-to-the-first/

The news informs me that the 1st case is Delta and the 2nd cluster of 3 folks is likely to be Omicron.

But as yet…. No information about where these folks have been in & about Gisborne.

I suspect that if it is going to take a week or more to publicise Locations of Interest (as in the case of the Music festival, and the PM’s Plane), then we should assume that the whole of NZ is a location of interest.

Might be time for all of us to self-isolate.
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January 30, 2022 9:28am
- jgw739
  
  Effectively another lockdown… rebranded
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:12am
- Opie
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300505729/omicron-masks-in-schools-is-helicopter-parenting-in-the-extreme
  
  Suprised they ran this. Maybe they are trying to get him sent off to the gulag.
  
  In short, dont mask kids…
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:32am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Primary schools open tomorrow..
    
    I’ll give the mask mandate a week at the most before most primary schools ignore the issue.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:56am
    - Gravelroad
      
      The trouble with it is, that in the case of younger children especially, the teachers will spend most of the classroom time managing mask wearing instead of getting on with teaching and learning.
      For some of the kids from Jacinda loving households, they will virtuously wear a mask for a while, but the novelty will soon wear off.
      I’ve been in a classroom with 25 eight-year-olds.
      Even with a capable, experienced teacher in control, kids can be unruly and act randomly at the best of times – let alone the worst.
      
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      January 30, 2022 11:10am
    - chukar
      
      Monday will be teachers day I presume?
      Have to get the masks fitted!
      
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      January 30, 2022 11:17am
Cinematic

It’s going to be an amusing 6 weeks watching the wheels fall of Baker & Arden’s covid chariot.

Hubris at levels never seen before will make for a spectacularly hard landing.

Popcorn time.
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January 30, 2022 9:33am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Hubris is a great word. The Greeks had their finger on the pulse.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:00am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Pulse is from Latin – pulsus – so the Greeks would have had their finger(s) on something else.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:56am
    - JFAP
      
      There may not be a wittier reply this week!
      
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      January 30, 2022 11:58am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Sphygmos….
      
      hence sphygmomanometer – blood pressure monitor
      
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      January 30, 2022 12:45pm
- MCōs
  
  Covid-19 has been with us for two years now and thus far the wheels haven’t fallen off, by your admission.
  Why is that you hope they will?
  BTW
  Michael Baker is not part of the government. He’s like the voice in your gps that suggests where to go. If it’s suggestions are not followed the voice doesn’t call anyone a fucking drongo it revises it’s suggestions.
  The government is like the driver that listens to a cacophony of gps voices, people who want to go another way, kids in the back seat and decide which is the best way to go.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:40pm
  - Clownworld
    
    Wheels can’t fall off, they were never on. It’s called a trojan horse.
    
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    January 31, 2022 7:08am
Lee C

When did

‘Going into Hiding’

get rebranded as

‘Self-Isolating’?
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January 30, 2022 9:40am
Chuck Bird

Tim Beveridge interviewed Charlotte Bellis a little after 9 this morning. It was very interesting. It is worth listening to on replay.
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January 30, 2022 9:53am
- TripeWryter
  
  Probably was his best interview, Chuck.
  I would add to my comments earlier about Michael Baker – neither of his sons is 25 weeks pregnant and needs to get home soon.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:59am
- surfing
  
  I bet Bellis is labour voter though!
  
  I wonder if that is still the case?
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:12am
  - Paulus
    
    Bellis was always very left wing orientated before she went oversaeas for Al Jezeera so I would doubt if she has changed.
    Cindy would know if this and still expect to be loyal labourite whatever but she has very many other priorities currently with her cancelled wedding.
    
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    January 30, 2022 10:55am
Nickc2

I doubt Cindy will be getting her personal RAT kits delivered from her local supermarket.
Personal delivery from the MoH perhaps?
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January 30, 2022 9:59am
- nathie
  
  Maybe new BFF Dr Bloomers will probably drop them off in person?
  
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  January 30, 2022 11:53am
Warren

Covid -19: Ex Labour MP Darien Fenton slammed for tweet about pregnant Kiwi reporter denied MIQ spot.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/01/covid-19-ex-labour-mp-darien-fenton-slammed-for-vile-tweet-about-pregnant-kiwi-reporter-denied-miq-spot.html
This is what you get from a kind and caring Labour Party in Government from there former MP’s when you dare speak out on their policy concerning legitimate Citizens wanting to get back to New Zealand urgently because of their pregnancy.
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January 30, 2022 9:59am
- Rich Prick
  
  Another government has offered her asylum! This is beyond belief. Where’s the “kindness” Cindy is so fond of talking about?
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:30pm
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[Deleted – find another outlet for your disinformation. mod.]
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January 30, 2022 10:00am
Maggie Pie

I haven’t been following ‘Hilary Barry’ on Twitter before now.

And let’s face it, even I wouldn’t go as far as describing myself as….

“A washed out hag who f****d her way to the top”

https://twitter.com/Hilary_Barry/status/1487486590460911621

Gotta’ admire her honesty I suppose 😛
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January 30, 2022 10:01am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, even K Harris hasn’t publicy admitted that planned sleeping is the reason she floated to the top.
  
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  January 30, 2022 10:29am
- emmess
  
  Seriously WTF NZHerald?
  https://twitter.com/Hilary_Barry/status/1487486590460911621/photo/1
  Misogyny? You are supposed to be a serious media outlet, not a gender studies course.
  And no, you are correct, it is not the flu, it is a bloody cold at this point.
  
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  January 30, 2022 11:34am
  - BananaLlama
    
    lol i saw that a shame they didn’t have the same standards when it came to Judith Collins.
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:38pm
Mummy

And speaking of the motley media mob. Two recent examples of weasel words designed to give wrong information without actually lying. First, a couple of weeks ago on the TV3 6pm news, and I quote: “Britain has recorded more than 150,000 deaths as cases of omicron surge through Europe. …” The clear implication which a lot of people would think is that there had been 150,000 deaths from omicron yet a simple Google shows that that is the total number of deaths since the pandemic started in early 2020. So two years, not since omicron started.
And the second example is on Stuff at the moment.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300506616/covid19-97-new-community-cases-seven-people-in-hospital-with-virus
The headline says “Covid-19: 97 new community cases, seven people in hospital with virus”. Again, implying that seven people are in hospital with omicron. The MoH suddenly won’t talk about delta but I bet these are all delta cases.
This does my head in.
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January 30, 2022 10:33am
- GJM
  
  It is even worse than lying. The 150,000 actually turns out to be 17000 from the figures released reluctantly under the OIA. The reminder died of something else but had covid at the same time. One example involved a motorcycle into a car at high speed. Apparently it was covid the rider that killed the rider, not a 100mph impact. Odd really, since he can’t have been that sick to be out there hooning on his motorbike…
  
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  January 30, 2022 7:23pm
Tasman devil

Our two Cindys are self isolating.
Where is Malibu Ken?
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January 30, 2022 10:38am
Tasman devil

In other good news, it’s only 500 days to the election.
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January 30, 2022 10:43am
mikenmildagain

Today is the commemoration of Charles, King and Martyr. Not a real saint, of course, seeing as the Anglicans lost the magic power of canonisation entrusted only to the pope.
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January 30, 2022 11:08am
- Matt Long
  
  An axe provided the simplist and most enduring refutation of the doctrine of the divine right of kings possible.
  It is worth remembering.
  
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  January 30, 2022 2:44pm
  - kowtow
    
    it’s also remembering that parliament was suborned by a military dictatorship which then created a kangaroo court to murder their lawful head of state .
    
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    January 30, 2022 5:33pm
oldfella

Powerline’s weekly roundup of US political humour. Funny!
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/01/the-week-in-pictures-neil-old-edition.php
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January 30, 2022 11:08am
- curry4me
  
  oldfella: Thanks for these.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:01pm
surfing

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/01/29/fears-harvests-will-rot-as-farmers-denied-skilled-workers/

This is a bad situation… government promised there would be no food shortages, but at the same time they are blocking the import of skilled labour needed to grow and manufacture basic ingredients such as flour.

Government seem to be finally realising this, but it is too late if the farmers are to be believed.

The Maori Authority has come up with a cunning plan to fix things though….

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/calls-for-price-freeze-on-essential-items-as-cost-of-living-skyrockets/ar-AAThys7

Price freeze! Straight from the book of Robert Muldoon.
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January 30, 2022 11:26am
- Benedict Yu
  
  That’s great. Because I now know definitively that they are morons.
  
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  January 30, 2022 11:38am
- I remember when
  
  Lack of stock may mean the price freeze will have to be delayed until after Omincron has peaked.
  Cheaper unavailable stock may not solve the problem.
  
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  January 30, 2022 12:54pm
Nickc2

A tip for the National Party.
Work smarter, not harder!
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/01/work-smarter-not-harder.html
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January 30, 2022 11:36am
Prince

A history of incompetence.

Commerce Commission looks at petrol pricing.
Theory: Petrol will be cheaper.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/119846467/govt-lays-out-plans-to-make-fuel-market-more-competitive

Reality: Petrol prices near $3/litre.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/nz-fuel-prices-hit-record-high-gaspy-data/N7LP737PTLLKTWWRT5PPWLG26A/

Commerce Commission looks at Food and Grocery pricing.
Theory: Legislation will mean cheaper food and groceries.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300368920/government-responds-to-damning-supermarket-report-on-high-costs

(Note: Is David Clark the most inept, over-promising, under-delivering minister of all time ?)

Reality: Food and Grocery prices through the roof.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/01/statsnz-nz-food-prices-highest-increase-in-10-years.html

Please, no more Government Studies. We can only take so much.
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January 30, 2022 11:45am
Clownworld

Funny thing that Macron references himself as Jupiter and sees himself as a man destined to lead Europe and the World. Competitors like Trudeau and Arden and Biden might not be up to the task or are they working to be more like him? Despots.
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January 30, 2022 11:46am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  This is a good game….
  
  who in Roman Mythology equates to Trudeau?
  
  For Arden, I nominate Discordia
  and for Biden, Senectus.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:02pm
  - Taieri
    
    And who would be Incitatus?
    
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    January 30, 2022 2:18pm
  - Matt Long
    
    Narcissus for Trudeau
    
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    January 30, 2022 2:31pm
Benedict Yu

You might have seen this one minute propaganda video on media from NZTA. It is promoting their current trawl of speed limits. Mainly lots of 100 zones will be reduced to 80. But there are also many 50 urban limits being reduced to 40.

https://youtu.be/412e9HHorLc

A guy I know from a couple of Facebook car groups submitted an OIA request on the cost. $998,000 just to MAKE the 1 minute video. And so far another 1 million dollars to TV stations to run it. ?
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January 30, 2022 12:01pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Just another hopelessly incompetent government bureaucracy being happily milked by private contractors forever while presiding over a decline of everything they regulate. It’s all about comtrol and bugger efficiency.
  
  Better roads + better cars = lower speed limits
  
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  January 30, 2022 12:24pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I know what happened.
    
    Advertising agency “Whats the budget?”
    
    Public Servant “Can you keep it under 1 million?”
    
    Agency “How about 998,000?
    
    ?????????
    
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    January 30, 2022 12:50pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      AND they have the requisite numbers of Te Reo speakers and TOW partnership believers……… or half IWI ownership
      
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      January 30, 2022 1:14pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And I’ll tell you something else…..
  
  that Maori guy with the clipboard is giving Blondes a bad name!
  
  SHEESH!!
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:17pm
- Squeek
  
  That advert infuriates me – it treats NZers as idiots. It is also promoting the current government’s mantra that you need to regulate for the lowest common denominator. ie let’s drop all the speed limits everywhere because some idiot is bound to kill himself or others by going more than walking speed.
  
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  January 30, 2022 4:36pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Bureaucrats: people who never do anything making sure no-one else can do anything.
    
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    January 30, 2022 5:26pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum is due to get her ‘Booster’ in the next few weeks.
It’s been mandated by the Body-Corporate for all residents of the Village.
She was saying those who refuse, face being barred from communal gatherings like Bingo, Karaoke, Folk Dancing and the likes.

The thing that’s been most concerning Ma, is the number of older residents, (those in their 80’s & 90’s), a lot of whom have already had their 3 jabbies, all seem to be reporting feelings of….. fatigue, listlessness, and just an overall lack of desire in being involved in things anymore.

All are saying their Libido has been severely affected as well…..with ANY FORM of sexual activity now having taken a back seat.

Worrying times for our Senior Citizens 🙁
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January 30, 2022 12:15pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Octogenerians having sexual activity in the back seat?
  The mind boggles.
  
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  January 30, 2022 9:04pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If you want to get to the front of the hip-replacement queue, tell your GP that your dodgy/painful hip is interfering with your kama sutra work-out.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:09pm
gorse

NZ$1 down to US64.44 cents. Drifting lower. Are we in trouble or what? Fuel will be up along with other imports. Mind you the farmers will be doing alright. Good on them.
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January 30, 2022 12:39pm
- Nickc2
  
  Unfortunately, farmers pay tax on their fuel too. Only road user charges are exempt.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:41pm
- Its only I
  
  My farming side is up, the Tourism bigger bit is way way down…no, it’s all but gone.
  
  If the dollar stays down, the borders open, Labour offers its apologies then resigned, disbanded and left the country and tourists flood back in…nope, that’s not going to happen.
  
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  January 30, 2022 2:13pm
I remember when

Stuff: 30/1/22 @ 11.20: More than half of retailers expect to increase prices by 7.5% over next three months:
Retail NZ quarterly report Friday, showed 57% of retailers increased prices in the last three months.
Global and domestic supply issues drive the cost of freight up, plus cost increases, commercial rents and wages up pressure on prices.
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January 30, 2022 12:48pm
- Nickc2
  
  Every trader who lost income during Cindy’s Lockdowns should be entitled to raise their prices. That of course is if they are still capable of trading. A lot in my local shopping precinct has had to shut shop and it appears new leasees are very very few indeed.
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:46pm
  - MCōs
    
    I live in Mangere Bridge.
    There are all sorts of cafes/restaurants/bakeries/two dollars shops etc that had to close for various lockdowns.
    None of them didn’t reopen. Prices don’t seem to have got out of hand.
    
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    January 30, 2022 9:51pm
Its only I

If the princess is positive for the rona it will be interesting reading the places of interest and who has to isolate among the stable mates.

Will the weekly meeting with media bosses to discuss how the shepherds will drench the sheep that week be a bit of a minor spreader event?
Try explaining that one away.

… [Snipped – mod.] …

All the princesses handlers?
Security teams, their families?
Moh staff, reporters, chamber maids?
The Halo polisher?
Personal photographer,
Pilots, air crew.
All of Labour…..all of Labour?….would we notice?

If the PM has the pox it will be fun joining the dots.
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January 30, 2022 1:09pm
- Nickc2
  
  I believe there are a number of DJs trying to buy RAT Kits again. I don’t know where they’ve been but where’s that fisherman when they need him?
  Perhaps they were on the same Aircraft as the PM? Just saying …….
  
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  January 30, 2022 1:53pm
Rusty

Question to all sports fans in NZ watching sky sports around the world.

What do you notice about 7s rugby, darts, tennis, soccer etc,?

Answer: Large crowds watching these sports and most not wearing masks.

Even the Aust tennis open in Melbourne who have a dictator Premier (Andrews) have full and mostly unmasked crowds.

Why is the rest of world getting on with life and living with covid but here in little isolated NZ we have crazy restrictions on watching live sports and socialising in public places?

Kiwis should open their eyes and see how the rest of the world is living — and then asked themselves –are we being conned by this Govt?
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January 30, 2022 1:27pm
- Nickc2
  
  are we being conned by this Govt?
  I think the answer to that question is self evident to most NZers who are still capable/allowed to think for themselves.
  That said, Super Rugby is kicking off in a couple of weeks and it looks like they will have to play at crowd-free grounds. This really pisses me off!
  If it is ‘ILLEGAL’ to assemble in groups of greater than 100, why don’t venues separate spectators into groups of 100?
  I know it’s been suggested but to date, no decision.
  Has the Govt introduced a law that has not been ratified by Parliament again?
  PS: How come we can have Outdoor Music Festivals where in recent times, Omicron appears not to have been a problem to the Govt but Outdoor Rugby is?
  
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  January 30, 2022 2:10pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Simple reason many other countries not going the mask route
    a) They have built up a shitload of natural immunity via high number of Cases
    b) They have lived with a high level of Rona for months and months
    c) They dont have idiots like Baker/Jackson and the other academics giving silly advice to the ineffectual MOH/Governmnet
    d) They dont have a fearporn Cabinet making dumbarse decisions.
    
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    January 30, 2022 3:35pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Confusing question for Jaspinda. She wants to be seen as letting us getting on with life – but control is paramount.
  All hail Jaspinda
  
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  January 30, 2022 3:28pm
Opie

I’m not bitter, but I just want to say that had the government not sneakily closed our border, the black caps would be playing an odi in australia this afternoon in front of a fairly decent crowd…

But but isnt our response so great…
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January 30, 2022 1:34pm
- MCōs
  
  Look on the bright side.
  It would have been a contest between two B teams and the last time NZ put out a B they were hammered by Bangladesh.
  A ‘fairly decent crowd’ is being optimistic. The BB competition crowds were pitiful.
  I’d say all sides were probably thankful they called the whole thing off.
  Apart from that covid-19 and the bubbles are causing all sorts of problems to sport over there.
  
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  January 30, 2022 3:11pm
  - MCōs
    
    Article on the issue.
    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/collingwood-england-players-deserve-medals-not-criticism-after-getting-through-ashes-series-1298868
    
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    January 30, 2022 3:16pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Flightradar24 not showing where the C130s and 757s are.
Why not?
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January 30, 2022 1:53pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  They are military aircraft. They don’t always show on flight radar.
  
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  January 30, 2022 2:46pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Just in case the enemy finds out? ///
    It has been some time – I know the planes are in the air, I live close to Whenuapai – you know the home base of Air Force 1 that returns via Wellywood, from Whenuapai
    
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    January 30, 2022 3:32pm
- cmm
  
  It only shows aircraft in the air.
  
  Military aircraft are only left off if there are solid operational reasons (eg. in Iraqi airspace during Operation Potatohead a few months ago). Even then they were tracked as soon as they left Iraqi airspace.
  
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  January 30, 2022 2:57pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    One of the 757s went to Seattle. Where did it go after that? And why go to the US?
    
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    January 30, 2022 3:35pm
    - cmm
      
      Seattle is where Boeing factory is. Maybe went there for repainting as a Bridal Carriage?
      
      Most servicing can be done in Christchurch, but there might be some servicing that can only be done on home turf.
      
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      January 30, 2022 4:31pm
    - marcw
      
      Possibly related to this – delivering crew, picking up shore equipment, or en-route to Victoria. Lockheed Martin is also based in Seattle.
      
      “The second ANZAC frigate to be upgraded in Victoria, British Columbia, HMNZS Te Mana, started its refit in May 2019. The industrial work is now complete. The new systems will be activated and tested with Te Mana scheduled to return to New Zealand in April 2022.”
      
      https://www.defence.govt.nz/what-we-do/delivering-defence-capability/defence-capability-projects/anzac-ships-upgrade-frigate-systems-upgrade-fsu/
      
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      January 30, 2022 4:42pm
Maggie Pie

A twitter bestie from the UK retweets….. 🙁

“Behaviour like this is totally unacceptable in todays world!
It’s time to stop gaslighting Jews”

https://twitter.com/Shomrim/status/1487507523884224515
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January 30, 2022 2:25pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I hadn’t realised that the UK is not vaccinating all their kiddies (5-11yrs), just recommending that high-risk youngsters get vaxxed.

A decision on vaccinating all other five-to-11-year-olds has not yet been made.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60173823
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January 30, 2022 2:37pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Too rational for NZ’s health bureaucrats and feelz driven govt to emulate.
  
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  January 30, 2022 3:40pm
- Jim
  
  Yep reportedly the science around individual health benefit isn’t strong enough.
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:43pm
Maggie Pie

If you want a larf, check out how List MP Marja Lubeck fills the day in.

It’s either playing Wordle…or buying Pastries that match her carpet. LOL!!

https://twitter.com/MarjaLubeck/status/1486941228340232197
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January 30, 2022 2:51pm
cmm

Herand: “Opinion: A market crash will depend on which bit of the equation investors got wrong”

So if there’s a crash it is because investors screwed up.

Nothing to do with:
* Massive debt-fuelled spending by USA, NZ, Oz, etc etc.
* Massive dicking around in the NZ housing market by the Kiwibuild fuckwits.
* Massive spending on a whole lot of rubbish that produces no long term benefits (eg. all the recent Maori troughing).
* Massive inflation which is going to force up wages while people simultaneously have to tighten their belts.

And that Robbo muffin keeps that silly surprised look on his face. You know the one I mean – where it looks like he just sat on a lollipop and is trying to work out if it’s a nice feeling.
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January 30, 2022 2:54pm
- Maggie's partner
  
  Markets go up and down based on the flow of money in and out of them. Yes, economic climes are an influence, but ultimately market movements come down to what investors are doing. If you read and understood the article, you would understand the point it was making
  
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  January 30, 2022 4:06pm
Maggie Pie

It’s different when Black people do it…..

BLM FOUNDATION transfers millions of dollars to co-founders wife to purchase Sprawling Mansion.

“This appears to be an epic abuse of public trust in which an entire movements resources are being squandered on the whims of one person and her inner-circle of friends and family”

https://nypost.com/2022/01/29/black-lives-matter-sent-millions-to-canada-charity-m4bj-for-mansion/
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January 30, 2022 3:28pm
MCōs

Here’s some interesting live tweets on a Trump rally in Texas, if anyone can be bothered.
https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1487503026843758594?s=21
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January 30, 2022 4:10pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION….

Would you give up going out for a meal at a restaurant…. if it meant feeding your dog instead?
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January 30, 2022 4:36pm
Warren

Having just watch the news tonight on One News where I heard Jacinda Ardern make the excuse that all the hard decisions she has made on Covid – 19 is the reason the poll have not been nice to her i couldn’t believe how arrogant she is.
Also in the same peice Jessica Mutch and Melissa Stokes also made the excuse that Chris Luxon is getting more media time and by putting himself out there people are liking what they see, of course Jessica and Melissa can’t see that Three Waters,more of Maori Language and authority with the money the media have received from Labour and the Prime Minister had nothing to do with it because they are blinded by the facts.
Chris Luxon hit a milestone to be more popular at his job than the Prime Minister with Luxon on 22% to Jacinda Ardern on 15%. I just hope the moderater watched the news tonight before they start deleting part of this post because it’s finally looks like the Country as a whole have finally got sick of the lies.
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January 30, 2022 7:09pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Warren, would have to agree about the ‘hard decisions’ comment. I thought Labour had a resounding election win last time because Ardern took all the ‘hard decisions’ and the populace loved her accordingly?
  
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  January 30, 2022 8:52pm
Warren

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/01/30/jacinda-ardern-christopher-luxon-approval-ratings-revealed/
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January 30, 2022 7:42pm
surfing

I see Chris Bunny again presiding with cruelty.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-man-watches-his-mother-die-in-ireland-by-video-call-after-failing-to-get-miq-spot/DG4LHTZD4LFQCHCKPSV7W5PSEY/

Will Chris Bunny go down in New Zealand history as a most terrible person who ruled over the population with cruelty and disregard?

Too bad he has such an inappropriate name, it certainly does not reflect his cruel character.
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January 30, 2022 8:41pm
- kevn
  
  @surfing..”just following/orders/rules/instructions”
  
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  January 31, 2022 7:36pm
Frank the tank

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gavin-newsom-claim-wearing-mask-rams-game-fan-cam

Do as I say not as I do!!!
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