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CAKE FACE1

Yesterday, I posted about Cindy’s struggles with her anxiety. A couple of socialists posting here cast aspersions about my claims. As such, here is one of her articles from the Guardian. We get some insight from the architect of the podium of truth, and it’s straight from the horse’s mouth (so to speak):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/21/jacinda-ardern-i-try-to-turn-self-doubt-into-something-more-positive

It is worth analysing her contribution blow by blow. Here’s Cindy!

“New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has revealed she suffers “imposter syndrome” and watches “bad crime shows” to wind down.”

Luckily for us, it’s just a syndrome, and not the real deal. Cindy never pretended to be someone else in order to deceive others. She’s still the humble socialist girl who worked in the fish and chip shop to me. There’s no way that she would sell out, and have an expensive wedding or lucrative magazine deals. That’s just not Cindy’s style!

I must confess that I always thought Cindy was an intellectual, so would pursue cultured scholastic pastimes in her spare time. It is a shocking reveal that she watches trash television. Who would have imagined that she prefers vacuous television, to the high arts? What will be the next reveal? This is exciting. Hang onto your seat!

“Although her exercise regime (“walking”) had fallen by the wayside since becoming prime minister, Ardern said she had replaced it with dancing, as Neve, her two-year-old daughter, loved dancing to children’s songs before bed and wh en she woke up.”

Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but I love it how Brand Cindy brings her two-year-old child and partner into her political pitches. It’s so cute! I can hardly sleep wondering what cake Clarke bakes for Neve’s next birthday. Indeed, I’m simply overcome with excitement. What a treat Cindy gives us! Are we worthy? What’s next, in Cindy’s magical mystical tour?

“I don’t think I have processed Whakaari, March 15 [the Christchurch shootings] – any of it at all really,” she said.

The unprocessed hugging and outfit were top notch, in any case. An unprocessed Cindy can emote and hug better than anything processed can – even you dream stealers have to give her that.

So, there we have it. Cindy uncut. There’s so much complexity to her character, that we should be honoured to have her as our supreme leader.

I think that I may join the Cindy cult. It’s all so cute. I’m off to #ChurArdern on twitter, to discuss buying Cindy themed tea towels and so forth, before they run out.

I don’t want to give investment advice out randomly on the internet, but suffice to say, the smart money knows that the value of this merchandise will only go one way!

Toodle pip,
CAKE.
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January 18, 2022 8:02am
- kevn
  
  @cake…. Cute as a button eh?
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:11am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Cindy is now grandstanding on Tonga. Their cable connection is down but Ardern has become the leading goto for an informative single line about how Tonga has no communications. Pathetic.
  
  The Tonga govt is not presently allowing any physical contact with the outside world.
  This shows excellent views of the explosion and tsunami.
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10410717/Tonga-eruption-images-extent-destruction.html
  
  The Islands have plainly been destroyed. What is not evident is that food crops will have been killed by the tsunami. The salt and ash covered soil may not be suitable for replanting. Great hardship has come upon them.
  
  NZ needs to forget Covid, Omicron and all the other waste effort and cooperate with Tonga to get supplies and long term practical aid to them. I believe they probably have more of their people here in NZ than elsewhere.
  Consider they are cuzzies of our Maori ethnic settlers.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:45am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yes Indeed Kevin.
    Does’nt give you much confidence when the PM has told the World we have sent a plane to investigate.
    I mean , Volcano ash/ So2 and airplanes dont mix as far as Im aware.
    Mobilise warships as we have only a handful of unsuitable Merchant ships left.
    Either way , It does not leave a great deal of confidence.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:05am
    - Jim
      
      Ardern is simply performing political grandstanding to both gullible NZ taxpayers and naive international audiences that she’s ordered a mighty military response by the NZDF. However, typically the kiwi contribution is usually very lacklustre (hardware and scale) when compared to that offered by the Australian Defence Force. It’s considered likely that NZDF contribution will be even more stretched than usual, following two years of providing MIQ leadership (to support a somewhat incapable MoH), and supporting the Police at the Auckland border checking ‘papers’.
      It’s certainly time this government got its priorities straight, and freed the kiwi people from this PM’s hermit kingdom playpen.
      
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      January 18, 2022 5:46pm
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    I’ve got another idea.
    
    Cindy can fancy dress into a Tongan costume, and give hugz all round to the Tongan community.
    
    I’m sure this would be more meaningful than food, water and hospital supplies.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:06am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      They could put her under a big tent again, only this time leave her there.
      
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      January 18, 2022 1:19pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I’ve worked in Tonga for a week and know how little they have to survive on.
      I can’t be merry about their present situation. It reminds me of the layer of ash which covered Pompei. Hurricanes may throw up large rocks but do not leave such ground cover.
      This is fortunately not as vigorous as Pompei but the pics show the whole of several islands completely covered in ash. How can that be removed in a timely fashion by their small population. Some photos show low lying water from the tsunami. That may render the soil useless or even dangerous.
      The people will be facing food needs almost immediately.
      We may need to send troops for remediation.
      
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      January 18, 2022 5:49pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Anyone going to help will of course have to be double jabbed and will obviously only be able to help people there who have a jab pass. //
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:36am
  - artemisia
    
    Fantastic visuals at that Daily Mail link – thanks!
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:56am
- Simon
  
  She is a mess. Cindy would be gone if NZ had an effective opposition.
  
  Just note how patient National have been waiting for cindy to finish her holidays. National could have said something any time last 2 weeks. They obviously had some sort of truce over January. Very cosy club. Fucking useless given the state of the country and failure of the jaxxs.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    National is now Labour Lite
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:21pm
  - Paulus
    
    But the real Opposition is live and well – it is called the $105 million media.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:26pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Whatever CAKE FACE1…Cindy will be in power until 2035 for sure.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:18pm
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    “Do not go gentle into that good night,
    Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
    [Dylan Thomas]
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:51pm
Scott

Apparently the Australians deported Novak Djokovic not because he posed a risk to public health but because he had the wrong attitudes!

“In court documents filed late on Saturday, the Minister argued his decision to cancel Djokovic’s visa had little to do with concern about him infecting others with Covid.

Instead, he said Djokovic’s conduct and ‘position on vaccination… may encourage others to emulate him by reason of his high profile and status’.

‘If others were encouraged to take up or maintain resistance to vaccination or to COVID-19 restrictions, then that would present a problem for the health of individuals and the operation of Australia’s hospital system,’ court documents state. ”

So we must deport him because he has the wrong attitudes. We can’t have anyone that thinks differently about covid and vaccination in the country!
This is what Australia (and NZ) have come down to. Dystopian societies where you can be deported if you think differently about the covid virus.

Where you can allow the number one tennis player in the world into your country, then detain and deport him at your pleasure. Novak is the victim of wrong think. He thinks for himself and in Australia today that is obviously just not acceptable.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10406603/amp/Novak-Djokovic-hearing-Tennis-ace-fails-overturn-visa-ruling-deported-Australia.html
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January 18, 2022 8:05am
- Scott
  
  And in a related development Pastor Brian Tamaki has been sent to jail for appearing at another lockdown protest. His “crime” of protesting the government’s lockdown measures means he will spend the week in jail before his next court appearance.
  
  No one is allowed to resist or protest the covid tyranny. How did our country come down to this? We live in a dystopian nightmare in which even protest is verboten.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:06am
  - MCōs
    
    He was sent to Mt Eden because he was refused bail until his next court appearance. He hasn’t been convicted of anything.
    He was refused bail because he ignored the restrictions placed on him at previous court appearances.
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:57am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      His legal problems all stem from his exercise of his absolute right to assemble in public and protest against government policy.
      
      If this happened with a right wing government and left wing protest the media coverage would be very different.
      
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      January 18, 2022 10:04am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Bullshit. He’s in jail because he defied Brenda.
      
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      January 18, 2022 10:38am
      - blue collar
        
        Bang on clan McLeod …. I can hear Poto screeching to Coster get that bastard in jail from here .
        They will all be laughing and patting each other on the back thinking how neat and high n mighty they are , Brenda will be stoked
        
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        January 18, 2022 7:54pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Curious thing. Mr Tamaki’s offence seems to relate to being part of a group gathered in defiance of the law. Yet I haven’t heard that the rest of the group has been arrested. Is this like those Muslim countries where they are only ever able to catch a woman in the act of adultery, but never the man who must have been in the act with her?
    
    By the way, have the other Maori men with motorbikes and leather jackets who gathered similarly in defiance of the law been arrested yet? Or does the law only apply to Mr Tamaki’s social club?
    
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    January 18, 2022 9:23am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Keep an eye on these 3 women who seem to have transgressed a traffic light boundary to attend a meeting in Auckland.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/whanganui-chronicle/news/covid-19-delta-outbreak-central-north-island-women-accused-of-flouting-covid-rules-appear-in-court/DGFDFH7MS3NDR4CUFJTSAZZVQE/
      
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      January 18, 2022 11:58am
      - Observer of Life
        
        So with the “Caccine Progress” data shown in that article, why are we at any traffic light level? Open up. Let’s live and at least if and when we get Omicron it’s the summer.
        
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        January 18, 2022 7:08pm
  - less than wise
    
    COVID-19 Public Health Response Amendment Bill (No 2) this will probably freck most of us out, but not a word said by anyone!!! Link below for your reading pleasure.
    https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2021/0068/latest/LMS552303.html
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:12am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Unfortunately you are right.
  NZ is now trying to make a martyr of our Bishop Brian!
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:48am
  - MCōs
    
    I would suggest the Bish is the one trying to be a martyr.
    Everyone knows provoking the other side into precipitate action is the best way to get the public on your side. Not that it always works.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:05am
- Loddenthinks
  
  As I posted elsewhere, that’s exactly right – he was a threat to public order, not to the health system. Despite never publicly announcing his vaccination status (since revealed in court records and no surprise to anyone – he’s not) or ever encouraging people to do anything other than what they feel is right for them, the Aussies are bogging themselves that others will follow.
  
  In a classic case of unintended consequences, they’ve handed the protesters exactly the cause they were asking for. They surmised that letting Djokovic stay would encourage the “anti-vaxxers” so instead of that they’ve made him a martyr, rallying thousands to the cause. Aussies – no surprises there.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:23pm
Maggie Pie

In seven days God created Earth and all upon it.
– Genesis 1:1-3

Imagine what Brian will be able to do in 10.
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January 18, 2022 8:05am
- pdm
  
  Especially seeing as he will have nothing else to do for most of those 10 days.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:10am
- Nickc2
  
  Yea, but look what he fashioned from one of Adam’s ribs! That’s when the trouble started. Just saying.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:17am
- cmm
  
  Which Brian?
  
  Some Brians got seven to ten years and still didn’t achieve anything useful.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:27am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The Brian I’m referring to is just a naughty boy 😀
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:31am
    - cmm
      
      Ok, so the other Brian then.
      
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      January 18, 2022 9:26am
- kowtow
  
  Humour aside and as already posed how many people get banged up for breach of bail.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:28am
  - pdm
    
    Definitely not gang members kowtow.
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:18am
- slightlyrighty
  
  He’s likely to milk it for all that it’s worth.
  
  Brian has been told to go directly to jail. That’s the easy bit for him, but I bet he was shocked when he was told not to collect $200.00 as well!
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:31am
- David Garrett
  
  Very droll Maggie…I wonder what the authorities would do if they went to take Brian to his court appearance…and the cell was empty?
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:01am
Lee C

The most egregious, selfish, arrogant and skewed of our society at work, destroying Jacinda’s team of five million from within.

First they came for the Doctors
Then they came for the Nurses.
Then they came for the Midwives.
Then they came for the Teachers.
Then they came for the Early Childhood Educators.
Then they came for the Supprort Workers.
Then they came for the Firefighters.
Then they came for the Police.
Now they are coming for the children.

And when your house burned down, and your kids got sick, and your house was burgled, and your schools closed down, was Jacinda there for you?

Did she come round and comfort you with her famous one-off brand of kindness?

No. She took the photo-op while the place burned down around us, like the good Boss she is..

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/covid-19-delta-outbreak-hundreds-of-unvaccinated-firefighters-stood-down/
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January 18, 2022 8:11am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  So dramatic, even in your own link fire services says it will cope without the vaccine-hesitant. Don’t pretend to bleat on the behalf of others, just go full-throttle sheep instead. You won’t notice the diffeence.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:19am
  - Biscuit
    
    Erm, Brian, the fire services say no such thing:
    
    FENZ acting national commander Ron Devlin said “we are confident the vast majority of communities will not be impacted”.
    
    I see nothing there to get a great deal of confidence from…
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:24am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      You have to wonder when you can just stand down people, in just about every profession that is understaffed.
      
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      January 18, 2022 8:28am
      - kowtow
        
        In more proof that Kungfluism has upturned our values ;
        
        anyone remember the days when trades unions would down tools in support of individual members who were in some sort , any sort of strife with management ?
        
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        January 18, 2022 8:47am
    - RiP NZ
      
      100% biscuit – and as if they would come out and state yep – where are in the sht, be careful with the BBQs.
      
      Its not like or emergency services are over funded or staffed.
      
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      January 18, 2022 8:32am
      - Master Mariner
        
        “where are in the shit, be careful with the BBQs.”
        
        Just wait till they go Hydrogen instead of Gas.
        
        There will be nothing left including the house and probably your niebours as well.
        
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        January 18, 2022 9:22am
  - Clownworld
    
    Full throttle sheep???? What does that mean?
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:26am
  - John Pakes
    
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    100% agree with you Brian. Lee C is just being dramatic, and stupid.
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:56am
    - Lee C
      
      Your reply lacks perception John.
      
      Here is why: https://theconversation.com/calling-your-political-opponents-stupid-is-a-stupid-thing-to-do-62926
      
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      January 18, 2022 9:20am
      - Nickc2
        
        A great link.
        
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        January 18, 2022 9:22am
    - Lee C
      
      Just to clarify my view via the article, John, and to suggest where I think you might be having a bit of a Dunning-Kruger outbreak issue:
      
      “Some of the most infamous political blunders – such as Margaret Thatcher’s “poll tax”, which led to widespread rioting – were actually conceived and pursued by some of the smartest people in the government at the time. A recent study of British politics showed that political blunders seem to have been the rule rather than the exception, and that they were caused not by stupid individuals, but by a system which encouraged groupthink, amateurism, overconfidence, and created a “cultural disconnect” from the electorate.”
      
      Many of our political classes feel they are ‘the smartest’ in the room – a quick trip to the Very Double Standard will attest to this.
      However, an unfortunate side effect of this is tht people equate their political loyalties with being ‘smart’ and wear it like a badge.
      
      When they ar totally oblivious to how sheeplike their thinking has become
      
      The above, by the way is an example of how to engage with people and share ideas, in the hope that a better world meay emerge from the testing of them.
      
      Something I’d suggest the current environments and it’s apologists are not keen to foster.
      
      I know, ‘stupid’ right?
      
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      January 18, 2022 9:38am
      - curry4me
        
        Lee C: Some people’s Dunning has never been so Kruger.
        
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        January 18, 2022 7:53pm
  - Lee C
    
    Sorry, Brian, tht made no sense to me at all.
    
    It was bahthetic.
    
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    January 18, 2022 9:22am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Damn, obviously we’ve had far too many nurses, doctors, firefighters, police, midwives and ECE all these years! And there was me thinking the lefties have been telling us we’re understaffed in all these areas!! Silly me!!
    Good job Brenda, cutting the fat out of these bloated bureaucracies!!
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:44am
    - bronny1
      
      yeah all along we just needed more chiefs and less indians. Thank god for Brenda //
      
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      January 18, 2022 11:54am
      - Groggy
        
        Who is Brenda? Is that a new pet name for the PM because taxcinda or Cindy weren’t insulting enough?
        
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        January 18, 2022 6:02pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    In Brian’s hellish world, feelz > facts.
    
    “Out of about 11,500 volunteer firefighters nationwide he said there are “probably a few hundred” now unavailable to respond to fires. Where possible they would be transferred to “non-frontline” roles.” Bit of a maths fail there, the article earlier says that “90 per cent of volunteers had received two doses of the vaccine.”
    
    Even I can work out that 10% of 11,500 is more than “probably a few hundred” in fact at least three times that amount.
    
    The article also says that “fire crews for Matakana Island in Western Bay of Plenty and Inangahua on the West Coast are unable to respond to calls due to not enough firefighters being vaccinated.” Still, nothing to worry about on Matakana Island or the West Coast. I mean, it’s not like there are any forests or anything – other than the 95% of Matakana Island entirely forested, and thousands of hectares of native forest on the West Coast.
    
    But no need to be dramatic or anything.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:52pm
- artemisia
  
  Let’s not forget all the organisations, included taxpayer / ratepayer funded, that voluntarily imposed mandates because … reasons. Maybe not enough beds for their terrified staff to hide under.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:33am
- Charmaine Hawke
  
  I wonder if Bloomfield and the MoH are sensing a change in the winds? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-traffic-light-system-may-need-changing-dr-ashley-bloomfield-says/5TTFOAIZYQKG4YQMPNYLFDK3PI/
  Maybe a positive the the passes will go but based on overseas events I expect the PM to triple down and lock up the unvaccinated.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:59am
  - Fletch
    
    They’ll have to make it a “rainbow” system. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet….
    
    More options ?
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:22pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    I won’t go easy.
    
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    January 18, 2022 5:54pm
  - Jim
    
    Ha unlikely to be good news with Doomfield at the helm. Judging by UK gov data Omicron should be great news for NZ during this hot kiwi summer, however I’m sensing our one trick government will prioritise leaky vaccines for every ‘healthy’ man, woman and child, and use new traffic light measures to lock down the population (to keep us safe and act as an incentive of course).
    
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    January 18, 2022 6:23pm
    - mawm
      
      It is going to be worse than that – mandated vaccines with fines/prison for not complying.
      
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      January 18, 2022 7:25pm
I remember when

SO now the unvaccinated have a figurehead to follow.
If he is unable to play in future tournaments, and will not be vaccinated, is the one sided argument going to move back to the centre.
Will Novak become more famous for being excluded from tournaments than winning them.
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January 18, 2022 8:14am
Lee C

Another tin-foil hat-wearer disrupts teh narrative:

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1671423499866362
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January 18, 2022 8:16am
I remember when

As people come forward to be indentified as being unvaccinated, the fact that they seem well educated is becoming apparent.
I see in this morning news that the Phoenix is said to be down to five available for training.
Interestingly, there is no suggestion that they are in danger of serious health consequences – no mention of ‘long’ covid.
As the numbers, stated to be 1.5%, of incoming MIQ infected grow again the lack of deaths is apparent.
However, people in low risk categories are ignoring the ‘science’ if they don’t follow the vaccination mantra.

Just a thought, how many people have had as many vaccinations as they have in the last 18 months – with the possibility of more to come.
Is there any ‘science’ to follow.
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January 18, 2022 8:25am
- kowtow
  
  Any “news” of how many of the Warriors have been admitted to ICU ?
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:49am
- Nickc2
  
  Help! My Immune System is so full of Anti-Covid stuff, it can’t protect me against any other diseases. I’m expecting Smallpox, Measles and others to return any day now.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:06am
- Groggy
  
  Brian Tamaki certainly doesn’t seem “well educated” he only reads one heavily redacted 1700 year old book. Novak plays tennis. Where are the educated people that are coming forward?
  
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  January 18, 2022 6:07pm
kowtow

The Whoreald .

If it isn’t covid , it’s climate catastrophe.

Simon Wilson’s “comment” today seems very sympathetic to so called direct action .

I don’t think that paper deserves the adjective of “centre right” , not by a long way.
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January 18, 2022 8:27am
- nathie
  
  Climate “Catastrophe”? Fortunately I won’t be reading Mr Wilson’s ramblings (so thank you for taking one for the team) but I would hope that one thing the Tongan undersea volcano eruption (which has the potential to cause temperature drops) teaches us and the Stuffed and LabGreenLeftie idiots, and the resulting tsunami, is that mother nature has a far, far greater impact on people’s livelihoods and resilience that humans and industry.
  
  Frankly if I were a Tongan (or Pacific Islander, or actually anyone, anywhere really), I would rather that billions and billions of dollars not be spent on BS CC initiatives (and planting trees, to offset the likes of James Shaw’s international jet-setting), but spend that money on practical things like higher sea walls and roads where needed, better early warning systems, alternative energy sources for when the grid fails and so on …. and simply accept the fact that life is full of risk and the best we can do as humans is mitigate the risk but accept that we can not totally eliminate risk and danger …
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:52am
  - RiP NZ
    
    “Natura non constristatur.”
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:48am
- Other_Andy
  
  That’s the new (John Key) ‘centre-right’.
  Check it out, Simon Wilson’s stand isn’t far removed from National’s policies.
  And for ACT?
  David keeps on waffling about the ETS too.
  ACT and National, as with covid, are completely on board with the Labour policies and only criticise the way it is implemented.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:05am
- Master Mariner
  
  “If it isn’t covid , it’s climate catastrophe.”
  Yes indeed.
  However the Human mind can only process one Crisis at a time.
  Climate Change and Covid appears to be “clashing” in the Narritive.
  Dont forget, “Take away the common enemy all you get is Chaos”.
  Which “common” enemy is it? Climate change or Covid? Cant be both!
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:27am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Covid was the warm up act for “climate catastrophe” and the “Green New Deal”. Doing the groundwork.
    
    Whitney Webb is excellent.
    
    https://originalgreentv.com/2021/08/17/whitney-webb-the-new-deals-of-the-ruling-class-with-cory-morningstar/
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:52am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  It’s slightly Right of Stuff but Simon Wilson is way out Left on a very long rope.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:35am
bronny1

Went to a “private function” at a local cafe the other night. 50 people, couple of great musicians, no vax passes, totally legit.

Amazingly (sarc) didn’t turn out to be a super spreader event either!

Nice to see some businesses that are not comfortable with the separatism finding ways to continue to operate for all.
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January 18, 2022 8:28am
- coge
  
  One way to get large groups back in. Unsegregated.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:13am
Maggie Pie

“Jessica, then Tova. Tova….where’s Tova?”

https://twitter.com/NewsroomNZ/status/1483154726531350534
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January 18, 2022 8:29am
- kowtow
  
  The real issue is how that radio station fired so many decent hosts .
  
  And how little sympathy they garnered from their colleagues in the rest of the media.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:51am
- ClanMcleod
  
  She should tell them she’s not jabbed. They’ll drop her like a hot potatoe.
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:09am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  “Broadcaster Tova O’Brien says a restraint of trade clause in her contract is being used punitively to stop her working in a completely different role in radio.
  
  O’Brien was at the Employment Relations Authority on Tuesday, challenging the three-month restraint of trade clause in her contract with Discovery NZ after resigning to take up a role in breakfast radio with Mediaworks.
  
  “It feels like I’m being punished, it feels like a point is being made,” she said.
  
  “It feels like there’s a scrap between Discovery and Mediaworks … and I’m being caught up in that.”
  
  Karma is a bitch. Toxic Tova deserves this for good. Take it Toxic Tova.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:21pm
  - plc
    
    Or…..you signed a contract with that clause in it.
    
    It means something….
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:59pm
    - peterwn
      
      Restraint of trade is rather a complex area of employment law. If a restraint of trade clause is considered excessively harsh or extensive a court will strike it out completely. The power balance or imbalance between employer and employee also comes into consideration. A clause of infinite duration applicable to a new job anywhere in the Universe would definitely be ‘struck’. Three months is the usual maximum and if an employee has to spend three months between jobs it is often called ‘gardening leave’.
      Tova is effectively arguing that there is no valid commercial reason for ‘gardening leave’ in her case (eg trying to poach existing customers for a new employer). However she would have listeners that may follow her to a new employer’s broadcasts. As far as being ‘hurt’ this is not really an excuse to breach ‘restraint of trade’. An employee and prospective employer in this position should recognise the implications and be prepared to deal with them. For example Tova could have tried to negotiate that the new employer would pay her to be on gardening leave and if not whether any improved salary offer would make it worthwhile to Waka hop.
      I think the Employment Court would uphold the restraint in this case.
      
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      January 18, 2022 4:14pm
  - Nickc2
    
    If I was the shed a tear for Toxic Tova, people would rightly call me a hypocrite.
    All those pins I have been sticking in a Barbie Doll that kind of looks like her seem to be working eh.
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:10pm
RiP NZ

“We know that the two doses of a vaccine offer very limited protection, if any. The three doses with a booster, they offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths. Against deaths, I think very good, and less protection against infection.”

Pfizer CEO stating no refunds suckers – you’ve got to come back for round 3…4…etc.
CDC stating what everyone rational thinker knew about cloth masks – yet this charade continues.
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January 18, 2022 8:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  ““We know that the two doses of a vaccine offer very limited protection, if any.”
  
  Pity he did not tell the buyers that 18 months back.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:06am
  - bronny1
    
    The data from offshore has been telling us for a very long time (not 18mths, sure) that the double dose was a bad deal unless you are elderly or past middle age with comorbidities
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:57am
  - Jim
    
    Does anyone trust big pharmas science?
    
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    January 18, 2022 6:30pm
- RiP NZ
  
  “We know by now that the level of antibodies needed to protect and not to got infected from Omicron is probably too high for the vaccine, even if it’s a good vaccine.”
  
  So – what’s the point? – how is a segregated society justified, how are vaccine mandates justified? freedom of movement, of association.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:11am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    They were never justified. We’ve been sold a pup.
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:11am
- Cinematic
  
  Fantastic money making racket. If I were a Pfizer shareholder I’d be delighted with the company’s covid performance. Produce wonky vaccine, sell loads of it, tell everyone it doesn’t work, then sell loads more.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:16am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Saline is wonderful
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:43pm
- cmm
  
  It was surely always known by Pfizer that this was going to happen.
  
  In all previous viral pandemics, the virus has mutated into a less virulent form that is dramatically different from the original virus.
  
  A vaccine that is a one-trick-pony and only attacks one part of the virus (in this case the spike protein) is always going to lead to immune escape.
  
  If they did not understand this at the beginning (I’m sure they did), then it was blindingly obvious by the time Delta came along: the virus was having spike protein mutations and there be more until the vaccine had no effect on the virus’ ability to propagate (ie. infect others).
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:25am
  - westernScientest
    
    maybe a feature rather than a bug?
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:14pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Looking at Australia, the most comparable country to us, Omicron is killing NZ equivalent of about 10 per day, and probably will for about a month. Call it a few hundred deaths for NZ. Less than our road toll, and equivalent to normal NZ deaths in a 3 day period, with similar age profile to normal deaths – ie a totally irrelevant risk to NZ population.
  
  So what is the govt’s plan here? It is obvious Omicron is going to sweep through NZ as some time in next few months, so why are they delaying? Are they:
  1/ Going for the delusional ‘King Canute’ plan; maintaining eradication hermit kingdom strategy forever. Extreme lockdowns when Omicron escapes.
  2/ Waiting for an Omicron specific booster that might save a few 10’s of lives of coffin dodgers at cost of millions of vaccine doses (with an inherent but uncounted injury and death toll from said vaccine) in 4-6months time (including roll-out). Plus of course the continuing death by 1000 cuts billions more in economic damage in the meantime.
  3/ Girding their loins for an opening (probably after inevitable MIQ failure so they don’t have to wear ‘blame’ for ensuing illness) in a few weeks or months after which they will go for the Australian approach.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:46am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    I should add:
    4/ No Plan, wing it and go with She Who Must Be Obeyed’s gut feelz, which is generally frightened indecision, take no action, and kick the can as far down the road as possible the same as they do for basically everything else.
    
    That seems most plausible to me
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:47pm
  - cmm
    
    “Omicron is killing NZ equivalent of about 10 per day”
    
    Except, of course, it isn’t. Almost all of them, including the poor wee kid who was in palliative care and died a few days ago, are dying WITH CV19 not being killed by it.
    
    I’d guess it’s a struggle to really pin more than 10% of the “deaths” on CV19 without extremely creative accounting.
    
    Did they also die of food poisoning? Most of them probably had breakfast in the previous 4 weeks too.
    
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    January 18, 2022 4:01pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      We’ll likely never know, and the numbers (~10% of normal daily deaths from all causes, maybe 1% of annual total when it’s all over) are only marginally large enough to detect in excess death figures. Looking at excess deaths you can’t even tell there is an Omicron wave going on in other countries – no detectable difference from the Delta dominated trends prior to Omicron – excess deaths are still likely dominated by residual Delta and maybe vaccines (how else do we explain NZ’s higher ’21 mortality than ’20), most western countries in the midst of huge Omicron wave are at about 10% above normal mortality figures.
      
      But the one country that we know has passed through Omicron (mostly unvaccinated South Africa) has peaked at about 15% higher excess deaths (25% vs pre-omicron 10%) over the last month.
      
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      January 18, 2022 5:02pm
      - alloytoo
        
        The interesting data out of the UK is the way Omnicron displaced not only Delta, but also the Flu.
        
        I suspect that once Omicron has swept through, we will have average lower excess deaths from Flu’s as Omicron immunity lingers.
        
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        January 18, 2022 6:36pm
      - MCōs
        
        Flu has been almost nonexistent in NZ these last couple of years.
        
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        January 18, 2022 8:20pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Put it another way:
  1 shot, damaged immune system;
  2 shots, 7/8 damaged immune system;
  3 (Booster?) shot, completely pukerood immune system.
  
  That’s what emerging world wide.
  Question: are some people being only given saline shots?
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:58am
  - Sacha
    
    The thought occurred to me: is every batch of the Pfizer vaccine. identical, or are there slight ‘adjustments’ to the recipe each time?
    My level of distrust keeps rising, and the more they push, the more I back away.
    Paranoia? For the sake of the injected I am willing to be considered barmy.
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:20am
    - westernScientest
      
      its the same concoction each time, but there does appear to be some variability between batches like any product.
      
      Pfizer are saying they will have a new one out in March/April which is omicron specific. I think they have just started or are about to start human trials now. Whether that eventuates or not, and whether it gets approved or not is a different story. Keeping in mind that it may not be approved by the FDA etc. as there are monoclonal antibodies, and other drugs now which are recognised effective treatments, and with omi there might just be no market demand for it.
      
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      January 18, 2022 1:12pm
    - cmm
      
      They are the same recipe because that is what is approved.
      
      Even with today’s FDA they can’t get away with vague terms like “assorted seasonal herbs and spices”.
      
      However it is very clear that there are discrepancies and batch to batch variance. We know this because there are noted correlations between batches and side effects.
      
      These variances SHOULD NOT be happening, but, likely with current supply chain issues that are impacting everything from computer chips to cat food, there is some variability in the ingredients they are sourcing.
      
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      January 18, 2022 4:07pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Differences are reported. This is a hot issue.
      
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      January 18, 2022 5:56pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Saline – yes. Control – yes. Nobody will ever admit it though.
    That is how socialism works
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:48pm
- Thumelicus
  
  OK it’s really quite simple. The third dose increases immunity, so after the 4th dose you’ll be protected. Once 80% of the population has received the 5th dose, the restrictions can be relaxed as the 6th dose stops the virus from spreading. I am confident that the 7th dose will solve all our problems and we’ll have no reason to fear the 8th dose. The clinical phase of the 9th dose will confirm that the antibodies remain stable after the 10th dose. The 11th dose with ensure that no new mutations will develop, so there’s no longer any reason to criticize the 12th dose.
  
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  January 18, 2022 3:08pm
  - cmm
    
    Quickly get your obsolete booster in now.
    
    Pfizer have said they have a new Omicron recipe in the pipe. They expect to ship it before the end of March.
    
    New recipe, so no doubt you’ll need 3 of those too otherwise Cindy will take your passport away.
    
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    January 18, 2022 4:13pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Those beliefs are dangerous as they conflict with disturbing global findings.
    The more pressure on the medical people the greater the fight back. Resistance is increasing.
    
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    January 18, 2022 5:58pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg87A_AboZQ

Queen Sends Royal Navy to Dover To Stop Illegal Migration.

The RN will try to stop the flow of illegal immigrants to Dover. BoJo is trying to salvage his reputation. [4:41]
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January 18, 2022 8:32am
- Jack5
  
  The Grauniad seems to be suggesting mutiny in the Royal Navy over the Channel gatecrasher assignment:
  
  “The Royal Navy is not expected to pursue a controversial Home Office policy of pushing back refugee dinghies towards France once the military is given responsibility for small boat Channel crossings.
  
  “Navy sources said officers had little interest in carrying out the “pushback” policy put forward by Priti Patel, the home secretary, but which is opposed by trade unions and charities, which argue it is illegal.”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/17/military-to-be-used-to-stem-channel-crossings-as-johnson-seeks-to-stay-pm
  
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  January 18, 2022 12:11pm
  - cmm
    
    Excuse me, but since when do the military get to choose what they are interested in?
    
    They like playing with the boats that the public buys them, but then get all squeamish when they then get handed a task.
    
    That’s the shit part of the sandwich mate – sometimes you have to be mean to people to secure the country’s borders. If you aren’t prepared to do the job, then don’t join up.
    
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    January 18, 2022 4:18pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63V3zTAJp_M

2 reasons why the CCP will dump Xi Jinping this autumn.

This year, Xi Jinping’s career is on the line. He wants to be made the Chinese President for an unprecedented third time, and it is yet to be seen whether the CCP will be courteous enough to give him what he wants. [4:32]
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January 18, 2022 8:32am
RiP NZ

100% biscuit – and as if they would come out and state yep – we are in the sht, be careful with the BBQs everybody.

Its not like or emergency services are over funded or staffed.
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January 18, 2022 8:33am
I remember when

PM breaks silence on Gayford rapid test controversy:
Newshub:

To say nothing other than that nothing further would be said.
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January 18, 2022 8:36am
- kowtow
  
  You can be sure that that is a clear signal to her employees in the Media that she has drawn a line under it and that’s the end of the matter.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:55am
- Cassandra
  
  Breaking her silence with silence. Newshub might have reported this correctly as PM Maintains Silence but that’d be journalism and we can’t have that.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:58am
- RockyJ
  
  Even the apologies were weasel words. He did not say “sorry it was wrong for me to do that”. What he did say was “sorry if people got the wrong idea”. In other words it was the fault of others, not himself.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:20am
  - David Garrett
    
    Rocky: But that’s the standard leftie “apology” mate. Clark used to employ it all the time, saying she was “sorry if anyone took offence at what I [subtext: totally sensibly] said about X”
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:10am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Except he didn’t say it, his manager said it. Subtle difference but it’s different.
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:15am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      What does he need a Manager for, who pays for this Manager?
      
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      January 18, 2022 2:35pm
  - The Housekeeper
    
    He didn’t say anything, his manager apologised for him.
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:31pm
- Flossie
  
  Unbelievable. He’s “apologised” so that’s that.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:20am
  - lifesgood
    
    But he didn’t apologise. He said he was sorry “for the confusion”. There was no confusion, buddy, you did what you did.
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:16am
- KevO'Brien
  
  She replaces words with smiles. I wonder if they are recorded in the Cabinet Minutes?
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:03am
- Local Miller
  
  Link people, link. If you have it, include it please otherwise 200+ other people all have to do a search which just seems a waste of time and resources.
  Thanks.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:39am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    As requested:
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/01/covid-19-pm-jacinda-ardern-breaks-silence-over-clarke-gayford-s-alleged-attempt-to-get-rapid-antigen-tests-for-mates.html
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:05pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      And yet again the media don’t question her. God help me, I think one day my head might explode!!
      
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      January 18, 2022 9:25pm
  - Nickc2
    
    See my post @ 12:18PM
    There’s a link there.
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:45pm
- pdm
  
  `To say nothing other than that nothing further would be said.’
  
  That is about as good an answer that you will get from her on most things – no matter how crucial to the country’s well being the question is:
  
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  January 18, 2022 12:33pm
CAKE FACE1

Okay, dream stealers.

CAKE knows that this forum is full of knowledgeable business operators, so I thought I should present my get rich quick scheme, to confirm that it is indeed riskless.

I can’t help noticing that portraits of Cindy do a roaring trade on trademe. I think that there is demand for much, much more. #ChurArdern!

I thinking of selling a line of memorabilia celebrating our own Princess Cindy, especially since we all have a wedding to celebrate.

Commemorative dinner sets, cups, mugs, plates, glasses and spoons with Cindy’s beaming picture prominent. Cindy trinket boxes, brooches and assorted jewellery. Cindy tea towels and bathmats. Themed Cindy tea caddies. Cindy tie pin and clips for the gentlemen wanting to look smart. Cindy picture books for the kids. Cindy decanter for the special occasion. Cindy notepads for remembering those pesky tasks. Cindy figurines for the house and garden, for those who just can’t get enough of our princess. Cindy collector tokens and coins. Cindy flasks. Complete sets of Cindy magazines and books, for your holiday reading.

Just typing that list made me very excited. Have I left anything out?

Okay, must dash. Now to make a million bucks!
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January 18, 2022 8:37am
- westernScientest
  
  Na, NFTs are the way to go now mate
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:05am
- coge
  
  Large mosaics of the PM positioned prominently on all major city intersections.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:05am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  The best part is that you can just promise these things and not deliver them and you know the customers complain.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:08am
- Master Mariner
  
  You forgot the Cindy portrait that will be required to be hung on every wall in the near future.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:15am
- Local Miller
  
  Can I have a Cindy door mat pleeeeeease!
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:51am
  - Observer of Life
    
    Cindy bog roll?
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:31am
- Taieri
  
  Have I left anything out?
  —————
  
  Commemorative dart boards?
  Commemorative voodoo dolls?
  🙂
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:02am
  - Sacha
    
    Perfume?
    
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    January 18, 2022 6:19pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Can I be an agent? I’ll get my lawyers to check over the contract details but this is a winner. This is my retirement sorted! This is me going to the Gold Coast every winter! Shit, no, that’s Australia. Make that North Korea, less restrictions!!
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:30am
- greybeard
  
  Toothbrushes.
  
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  January 18, 2022 12:06pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    ?
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:52pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  What about Cindy Toilet papers CAKE man?
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:25pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Cindy Shrines, complete with Cindy Scented Candles and Cindy Incense with a range of Cindy Icons to decorate your Shrine.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:36pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Is there any depicting her with a pair of Bull’s Horns and a Red Flag adorned with a Yellow Hammer and Sickle in the upper left canton flying in the background? If so, I will buy one to adorn the back of my downstairs toilet door so long as I can mount a Dartboard somewhere on it.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:44pm
- Pateke
  
  Put me down for a set of Cindy horseshoes!
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:43pm
Rusty

So the lefty/woke media are probably making martyrs of such people as Novak Djokovich and Brian Tamaki because of their stand on vaccines and lock downs.

How come the media in this country or Australia never report that celebrities such as Jim Carey, Kirsty Allen, Bill Maher, Robert De Niro, and Robert Kennedy Jr are anti-mandate vaxxers?

Most of these folk are lefty/woke themselves yet we never hear them being condemned in the media.
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January 18, 2022 8:40am
- Nickc2
  
  Probably because the people you mention are anti-mandate vaxxers, not necessarily anti-vaxers.
  BTW Biden’s been slapped down (blocked) on his workplace vaccination mandate by the SCOTUS. They found his dictate was outside the bounds of a POTUS.
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/459562/us-supreme-court-blocks-biden-s-workplace-vaccine-mandate
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:52pm
  - Batman
    
    No, they ruled that OSHA couldn’t mandate it. Same same federal body, but different.
    
    They did uphold the mandate for healthcare workers, which perhaps gives away the flimsiness of the reasoning for denying the other mandate.
    
    Perhaps it’s all a bit ironic given that you have to be vaccinated to enter the US Supreme Court building for any reason, including arguments.
    
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    January 18, 2022 3:22pm
- Thumelicus
  
  What about Eric Clapton? Cant play guitar anymore..
  
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  January 18, 2022 3:13pm
Northlander

How is an article with so many racist undertones (towards Pakeha) allowed to be published?

How can Rawiri get away with saying “The only bright spot, a surge in Pākehā holiday cases while seeking fun under a pandemic sun, and overseas returnees, means we are no longer the highest number of active cases”….so it is now ok to refer to a surge in cases amongst one ethnic group vs. another as a “bright spot” in the pandemic?! FFS..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/300497656/tamariki-mori-must-be-top-priority-for-next-stage-of-vaccine-rollout
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January 18, 2022 8:52am
- Yabster
  
  how?- he gets away with because he has brown skin- simple as that.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:15am
- RockyJ
  
  Imagine if you wrote an article about melanoma, a mainly pakeha form of cancer, and you wrote “one bright spot is there has been a surge in Maori cases….” There would be an uproar.
  It shows just how self centred a lot of Maori academics and leaders are.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:42am
- Jack5
  
  Rawiri’s a controversial character and he shoots from the lip:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4366846/Outspoken-Rawiri-Taonui-resigns
  
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  January 18, 2022 12:18pm
I remember when

2022 UK food trends:
New regulations allow the incorporation of non-psychoactive cannabidiol (CBD) into food as an ingredient.
The new rules have placed the UK at the forefront of regulatory standards in a market valued at about $1.3 billion last year.
It is now estimated that the UK is the world’s second-largest consumer cannabinoids market.
This year will see the launch of Choc ‘n Chill, their first ice cream with CBD as an ingredient.
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January 18, 2022 8:55am
graham

I have just read an article in the Herald, written by a 30-year-old Australian health journalist who caught Covid in December. She has documented her journey in a series of diary entries.

I found it to actually be a fascinating read, for several reasons. The journalist didn’t get hysterical (“OMG, this is the worst thing ever!!!!”) but at the same time was quite open and honest about the issues she did face. The key takeaways for me were:

– She details the symptoms she experienced, which were about what you would expect. Inability to concentrate, fever, headache, muscle aches, temporary loss of taste – all the stuff you would expect. But no, she didn’t end up in hospital, and nor did her partner.

– She also details the struggles with the bureaucracy and the lack of information in Australia; endlessly answering the same questions over and over, no communication, too much communication, officials who can’t provide answers to the most basic of questions (“If we find a place to self-isolate, how are we allowed to get there from the hotel?” … “Umm …”). Sound familiar?

– And here’s the big one. She is refreshingly honest about how the biggest problem is the fear, the dread, the panic attacks, all brought on by the incessant doom-and-gloom stories ENDLESSLY RAMMED INTO OUR BRAINS by the government and the media. And remember, this is a health reporter who has been writing about the pandemic for two years.

This should be required reading for all government and health officials, and the media who so love to scare the hell out of us. It might just open their eyes to the harm they are doing.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/covid-19-delta-outbreak-what-i-wish-id-known-before-catching-the-virus/AINT7XMUYWX2DOXS6PTCGC4B2E/
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January 18, 2022 9:01am
- bythesea
  
  Bureaucratic inertia is a wonderful thing. /sarc
  C’mon, they have only just got this thing up to full throttle and you want them to stop…
  
  Joking aside, they are up to about 1.5M Ozzies having caught the Omicron. At what point does everyone know someone and find out its not bad.
  
  When does the narrative collapse in the public?
  
  UK Farr curve has taken about a month to drop back to where it was – Dec 15 to Jan 15.
  Oz has a couple more weeks.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:10am
I remember when

RNZ: Omicron outbreak would push NZ to red traffic light setting, says Ardern.
Traffic light system may need strengthening or adjusting in face of Omincron: Bloomfield.

The reasoning behind the change to the Traffic light system is now obvious.
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January 18, 2022 9:17am
- cmm
  
  They ran out of levels in the level system without even having anything serious. Even with what they had, they still needed to add fractional levels (2.5 etc) according to Cindy’s whims.
  
  How do you do that with three colours? Red with a hint of yellow? What do you do when red is not enough?
  
  It’s just a disaster thought up for a kiddies TV programme.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:59am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Anymore colours they will have the rainbow community up in arms for discrimination.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:19am
    - cmm
      
      Cultural appropriation, maybe?
      
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      January 18, 2022 4:19pm
  - Taieri
    
    How do you do that with three colours? Red with a hint of yellow? What do you do when red is not enough?
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    Rainbow?
    
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    January 18, 2022 11:03am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    What do you do when red is not enough?
    
    Go to Infrared
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:10pm
- oldfella
  
  IRW, despite what Cindy says, Prof Baker is on record as saying the traffic light system will not be adequate for the arrival of Omicron, and we’ll need to revert to the old system.
  But what would he know? /s
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:08am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No /s. This is in the plan, the plan that changes all the time
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:07pm
    - Nickc2
      
      The Plan was to be announced on the 17th (yesterday) when all the time Cindy meant ‘some time next week.’
      I wonder if the Fisherman’s still living in the ‘dog box’?
      
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      January 18, 2022 2:15pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Don’t let it be another lockdown season for the new year.
  These amateurs and advisers don’t have the knowhow or wisdom to make sensible decisions.
  Experts who cannot evaluate the economic cost of the recommendations are useless. If you don’t know the cost how can you measure the benefits? There are a great deal more costs than many experts understand.
  Lockdowns have damaged the mental health of the people and it is specially evident in the youth.
  We need people of sound judgement in Executive Office not merely elected ones.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:12am
  - mandk
    
    Spot on.
    
    The economic costs of the response don’t seem to come into the reckoning.
    
    Nor do the social costs.
    
    Nor do the non-Covid health costs (missed/delayed cancer diagnoses and treatments etc, as well as the mental health costs you mention).
    
    And we shall probably drown in all those disposable mask that are littering everywhere.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:25am
    - cmm
      
      There is only one cost that matters:
      
      How does it impact Cindy’s CV on the international stage.
      
      #CinD4UN!
      
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      January 18, 2022 4:21pm
  - Local Miller
    
    Too late, all this gubernment knows is lockdowns. One coming soon to a town near you. At least as soon as the wedding of the century is over and all the guests have gone home.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:57am
- Raphael
  
  The best way to handle Omicron is to let is spread. It’s typically milder symptoms and over in 3 days.
  
  But our government only had a big ol’ mallet in their tool box and everything looks like a nail.
  
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  January 18, 2022 10:50am
  - cmm
    
    ie. basically the same as:
    * The best way to handle the housing crisis
    * The best way to handle child poverdee
    * The best way to handle crime
    
    Just keep the government out of it and it will probably go OK.
    
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    January 18, 2022 4:23pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  This Government must be setting a record for the number of thought-up-on-the-fly-in-2-weeks Covid systems. Firstly alert levels. Then stepped alert levels. Then the self-importantly named Covid Protection Framework, built from matchsticks that protects nothing and is already obsolete.
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:49am
Flossie

In connection with absolutely nothing on this blog I wonder why the wife of a Knight is called “Lady”, whereas the husband of a Dame is just stuck with plain old Mr xxx. Seems sexist and if the boot were on the other foot there could be some protest.
While looking into this subject I found that it does seem that according to protocol “Lady Winifred” is incorrect if she is the wife of Sir John Smith and she should be called Lady Smith. I took a well know NZ newspaper to task on this subject a few years ago and was told by them that in this country she’d be known as Lady Winifred – so there!
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January 18, 2022 9:18am
penguincouple

Long story short first, I wonder if there’s anyway to find out whether any taxpayers’ fund has been misused.

The long story:

I have a few Youtube channels that I show my support by “not skipping the ads”.

So the other day I was in the middle of one of my favourite talkshows, when an ad interrupted saying something along the lines of “Aotearoa, thank you for the efforts from the team of 5 million…”. It went on for about three or five minutes, talking about how this government change its approach to traffic light, so you can do the things you love blah blah blah, you know the drill. After enduring all that propaganda stuff (yes it was painful), it ended with this message,

“To find out more about the trafflic light system, visit dub dub dub dot labour dot org dot nz slash traffic light”

I thought, or isn’t that a government ad? Why does it point to a Labour website?

I checked it out, there is indeed such a website.

Now I wonder whether my taxes is funding labour for this shi* (the Youtube ad, not the website). Any suggestion or assistance appreciated.
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January 18, 2022 9:20am
- bronny1
  
  suggest you put in an OIA or other info request to find out!
  
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  January 18, 2022 3:54pm
Benedict Yu

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300483037/covid19-under12s-roll-up-their-sleeves-for-vaccine-for-one-its-to-protect-my-body-and-my-family

I sincerely hope that a few years down the track these vaccines do not unleash unknown lasting negative effects. As an adult, I made my own choice. But I still do not understand the net benefits to young children.

There is no rational reason why any parent would line up for hours in a hot car with kids waiting for a vaccine. FFS come back next week.
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January 18, 2022 9:28am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I should be getting my booster but not while the place is clogged with neurotic parents.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:37am
- freemark
  
  The pink haired rationale seems to be that 100,000’s children have lost a parent or caregiver to Covid therefore we should jab them here. Sounds legit
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:43am
  - amospicton
    
    I saw that too freemark and had to read it again just to be sure. One of the bigger non sequitors you’ll ever see. She is suggesting that the reason for children to get vaccinated is that some of them (1 in 450 she quotes) have lost a parent to covid!! This from a scientist!
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:57pm
- cmm
  
  Rational? Nope, no room for that. It is all driven by emotion.
  
  Pfizer have said that 2 jabs are useless on Omicron and you need three for some effectiveness (not much mind you). That will take until at least June to administer for people starting now. How are people going to get three jabs into kids before Omicron gets into the community?
  
  What’s the point in giving them these jabs when there’s going to be a new Omicron recipe in March (according to Pfizer)? All those getting jabbed now (including boosters) will probably have to stand down for 4 months before getting the Omicron-juice.
  
  So why does anyone want to take the broken stuff which prevents you from having the good stuff in March?
  
  But of course, we’re Magic Cindyland. We probably have to wait until Spain, Portugal or some other place is dumping their excess stock – some time after the pandemic has ended.
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:53am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Dump the Cinder’s Gulliblement instead.
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:15am
  - bronny1
    
    I’m curious, is the double vaxx pretty much useless because everyone had it 3-4 months ago and its efficacy has worn off? Or do 3 doses of the same thing do something magic?
    
    Assuming the former, the kids should get some efficacy out of double dosing now, right? I mean, if i were to show up for my first dose now, its not like i’d have to have 3 to catch up….is it?
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:21pm
- Raphael
  
  I know a couple of kids who are high risk enough to justify them getting the jab, but for most kids, the best option if to let them get omicron and be done with it rather than getting jabbed.
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:07am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Think of your children’s futures and avoid these fear and monetary driven experiments.
    
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    January 18, 2022 6:02pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  There are no net benefits to young children. That is a stone cold fact. This is malfeasance and criminal charges will eventually need to be brought against all who advocated, promoted and actively did this.
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:51am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    There is likely benefit to some kids with serious health issues, but otherwise the known (an more importantly unknown) risks probably outweigh the purported benefits
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:28pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Urban I know what you’re saying, but when we’re talking about net benefits it’s about the whole picture, not the individual.
      
      My brother gets quite upset about it. He referenced the “trolley problem” to me. Where a boxcar is running loose down a railway track, it’s looking like it’s going to kill five people. You can flip a switch to put it on a siding which has one person on it who will be killed. Do you flip the switch?
      
      https://healthland.time.com/2011/12/05/would-you-kill-one-person-to-save-five-new-research-on-a-classic-debate/
      
      Apparently because I said I would save the 5 it makes me a “psychopath”. Fortunately I’m in good company. 90% of those who have been tested made the same choice.
      Also, as I pointed out to him, we aren’t in that situation. If someone wants to get the jab they can do so. All I want is the choice not to. If the jab protects you then my decision is irrelevant.
      
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      January 18, 2022 1:22pm
- Happy1
  
  B Y. There may well be side effects from getting covid that don’t become apparent until later. I wouldn’t be surprised if Boris’s life expectancy has been reduced by a few years.
  
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  January 18, 2022 5:01pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Everyone’s life expectancy has been reduced, including those who haven’t had covid.
    
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    January 18, 2022 6:54pm
  - Jim
    
    That’ll be down to being married to a demanding younger woman.
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:29pm
Master Mariner

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Gas-Prices-In-Europe-Drop-As-US-LNG-Flotilla-Arrives.html

“A resolution to Europe’s energy crisis is certifying Russia’s Gazprom PJSC’s controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline, but that doesn’t seem possible until summer. So in the meantime, gas prices will remain elevated. If another winter blast comes around, gas prices will undoubtedly go back above 100 euros. ”

I guessed the price of Oil will be 120 $ bbl by June/ . Oil/Gas is priced on instability and markets will follow. So really only a “crystal ball ” guess due to the very nature Geo political instability.

So the thing is, What has NZ done to hedge / or secure energy stability?
Well, They have just announced after the closure of Marsden point that there must be 28 days of reserves in the country.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/127519336/fuel-firms-set-to-be-required-to-store-more-petrol-in-nz-after-refinery-closes

And guess whos paying to have the reserves ?
NZ Tax payer of course.
You really coud’nt make this up.
As the world is clambering to secure energy.

Question. How is the “Nuclear Moment” going to effect you in 6-12 months?
Hazard a guess?
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January 18, 2022 9:42am
- Taieri
  
  What has NZ done to hedge / or secure energy stability?
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  Withdrawing Silver Fern coastal tankers from service will undoubtedly enhance our energy stability.
  
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  January 18, 2022 11:05am
  - bronny1
    
    I heard there was an oil rig off the Marlborough Sounds en route to the Naki. To try get more gas out of the Maui field.
    Curious as i thought we had cancelled gas and nothing was said in the article (local Marlb paper) about the oil and gas exploration ban.
    
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    January 18, 2022 12:22pm
    - Nickc2
      
      I think you’ll find existing exploration licenses remain intact until they expire when they won’t be renewed.
      That aside, a change of Govt can make all this stuff null and void and issue as many licenses as NZ needs if they have an incline towards sanity and national survival.
      
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      January 18, 2022 12:58pm
    - Taieri
      
      Gorilla VII is working under the existing permit.
      
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      January 18, 2022 1:30pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Without saying too much thats correct. (:
      
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      January 18, 2022 1:47pm
Ohm my

This morning on bfd I read an article which included a couple of videos of people having muscle spasms after the pfizer vaccine. I happen to follow The Body Language Guy on YT who posted this video about the pfizer CEO. Hhhhhmmm – is he nervous, or taken his own medicine?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOIljz2zkg
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January 18, 2022 9:52am
SoloView

Master Mariner – “And guess whos paying to have the reserves ? NZ Tax payer of course.”

Government view – “But MBIE said in a consultation paper published on Monday that at this stage its preference was to “impose a minimum stockholding obligation on fuel wholesalers””

Z Energy view – But Z’s report baulked at the suggestion that the Government could require fuel companies to stockpile refined fuel for supply emergencies, describing that as “an expensive and unnecessary exercise”.

Who pays perhaps still to be decided.
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January 18, 2022 10:13am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes. Thats correct.
  Either tax payers or consumers in higher prices to have inventorary stored.
  Really no difference is there?
  The real question is that they are talking about this only now?
  Energy security in particular in Europe has jolted them to come up with this policy.?
  Beyond belief.
  Talk about ( I know another) un intended consequence.
  
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  January 18, 2022 2:06pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Where are these notional reserves to be stored?
    Parliament’s basement?
    
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    January 18, 2022 6:05pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      Where they took out 600,000 books at the library…..
      
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      January 19, 2022 3:50pm
OTGO

I’m confused.
I read this article today in the SMH. https://www.smh.com.au/national/don-t-believe-the-hype-around-djokovic-catching-covid-is-no-substitute-for-the-jab-20220117-p59ouo.html
The authors are saying that even though you’ve had Covid you still need to get the jab(s).
I listened to the Joe Rogan interview with Dr Peter A. McCullough and he said if you get Covid not only are your antibodies better than getting the vaccine but if you’ve had the virus once you can’t get it again.
Who do you believe?
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January 18, 2022 10:51am
- bronny1
  
  I think the McCullough view has changed with Omi and you can get one of the variants up to Delta, then still get Omi, because its very different.
  
  Having said, how can natural broad spectrum immunity not be better than a narrow immunity out of date jab?
  
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  January 18, 2022 12:23pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Nobody can out nature nature. Sorry if that doesn’t concur with “the science”. But nature has been doing it for a lot longer. I trust nature. I don’t trust “the science”. Certainly not in the current profit driven format. I tend to be a bit naive and think that people used to try and cure other people because it was the right thing to do. Silly me.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:35pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Joe Rogan is far more trustworthy than almost anyone out there. Even when he gets something wrong occasionally, he has the moral fibre to admit it and move on. Not the “single source of truth” and blatant lies and propaganda we get from Ardern and her mainstream media.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:33pm
Chuck Bird

Imagine the authorities suggesting someone deliberately catch Covid. It will be great when Parliament is back so questions can be asked.

“Ry made a formal complaint to MIQ about the length of his stay, the fact they were not given the option to isolate from one another, and the suggestions made that he should catch Covid.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-man-in-miq-not-isolated-from-covid-positive-partner-faces-30-day-stay/M67URL2ZBVFPS7LBZJ42JZCUXU/
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January 18, 2022 10:54am
Fletch

Front page news on the paper copy of the Herald today – 8 parents are taking the govt to court to halt the vaccination of children. I had to try very hard to find it in the online version; in fact, I had to find the link through a Newshub story…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-parents-taking-medsafe-govt-to-court-to-stop-vaccine-rollout-for-5-11s/3OCV6MRQHBUNR3UYUAQV5NZ3CE/

After yesterday when 5 kids collapsed during the North Shore vaxathon, I am not surprised.
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January 18, 2022 11:09am
- westernScientest
  
  of all places its been on the front page of stuffed all morning, biased as you would expect, but there. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127525291/covid19-parents-launch-legal-action-over-vaccine-rollout-for-5-to-11yearolds
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:01pm
- Thumelicus
  
  [deleted, final warning. Misuse a child death again and you’ll be on a long ban – Mod]
  
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  January 18, 2022 3:23pm
- Bea Rossini
  
  Ahhh – dear old Liz Gunn and her nonsense. You believing’?
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:38pm
  - Fletch
    
    Considering the reaction of the 1 News team, yes I do. If it weren’t true then why did they turn tail and run and not respond to questions about it? And what about the other child who passed out in Rangiora?
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:31pm
Geoff1

Israeli immunologist claims Covid-19 ‘cannot be defeated’, slams ‘failed’ pandemic response
A leading Israeli immunologist slams the government for its “failed” coronavirus response accusing the Israeli Ministry of Health of pursuing “destructive policies” for the past two years out of a “lust for power, budgets and control”.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/israeli-immunologist-claims-covid19-cannot-be-defeated-slams-failed-pandemic-response/news-story/4040ba2585932e41bc92d8cfbfc74898
Equally applies to NZ but Jacinda would refute that.
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January 18, 2022 11:32am
Local Miller

Had a great talk with my boss regarding Covid on his first day back at work after the Christmas break. I’m one of two staff (out of about 14) who have not been vaccinated, and my role in the company while technical is also very much client facing. I’m too good at my job and too valuable to the company to change my role significantly or allow me to resign, so they are being very accommodating. I can easily do most of my normal work remotely, but there is a level of expectation to take clients out for meetings over coffee or a beer, which I obviously can’t do. Also a lot of clients have vax pass requirements to go on their premises, so we can’t even meet at their offices.
We got to talk about some of the crazy stuff coming out as a result of all the restrictions. Things like:
They need to change my job title and description because they can’t take on a new hire with my job and require him to meet face to face with clients, because “Local isn’t meeting clients, why should he?”
They can’t ask a potential new hire what their vax status is (private medical info) so they (and others) do the first interview at a pub that requires a vax pass. If the person can’t go there they now have their vax pass status.
A lot of companies have restrictions around not allowing us filthy unvaxed on their premises, including their staff, but they aren’t actually allowed to ask their staff or visitors what their vax status is (private medical info). This means they are essentially relying on people acquiescing to their demand to have a vaxport. The only real way to force this is to “ask people if they are prepared to share their vax status” and then bare them if they say no. This means you could have vaxed people being bared (e.g. one of my sons is vaxed but won’t get a vaxport) because they believe in personal medical privacy. A crazy situation where you can be refused access without a vaxport, but can’t be forced to show it.
My take is a lot of this is on very shaky ground, and it would only take one person to challenge the legality of much of it for it to all come tumbling down.
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January 18, 2022 11:36am
MCōs

When England were awarded the Cricket World Cup a couple of years ago most of the team jumped around spraying champagne all over the place except the two Muslims in the team who drifted away on their own.
When Oz won the Ashes the other day Pat Cummins the captain stopped that practice so Usman Khawaja could join in the celebration.
Not something I noticed until it was pointed out, everyone contributes to the success of the team.
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January 18, 2022 11:50am
- Nickc2
  
  everyone contributes to the success of the team
  Not in Cindy’s team of five million they don’t.
  
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  January 18, 2022 12:51pm
ClanMcleod

Local Miller – what that tells us is, Ardern wants us to live in a country where everything depends on “papers please.” I don’t want to live in that country. Ever.
This is nothing to do with health.
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January 18, 2022 11:58am
Hard Cheese

Saint Ashley reporting from the podium of BS:

“But speaking to Newstalk ZB on Tuesday, Ashley Bloomfield said the country is in a good position to handle an outbreak.

“We are not as vulnerable as a number of other countries because we have very high vaccination rates… and a lot of that is quite recent,” he told Newstalk ZB.

What about New South Wales? They have higher vaccination rates than ours, that didn’t help them with Omicron case numbers AT ALL.

By “other countries” I assume he is using the Ardern/Robertson playbook and vaguely handwaving the question away, as if you trawled long enough through the stats book you could find a few banana republics NZ could be favourably compared with.
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January 18, 2022 11:59am
- Stu2
  
  “What about New South Wales? They have higher vaccination rates than ours, that didn’t help them with Omicron case numbers AT ALL.”
  
  Actually the vaccines have helped a lot. They have an enormously high vax rate among the eligible, but half of the ICU patients are not vaxxed. Wildy disportionate.
  
  The vaccines have reduced the impact of Omicron illness, even though they are not spectacular in preventing infection as you said.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:10pm
  - Hard Cheese
    
    The ratio of unvaxxed to vaxxed in ICU is kind of irrelevant if you’re peaking at 100,000 cases per day. The vaccine is doing nothing to stop infection in large numbers in either segment of the population.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:53pm
    - Batman
      
      But it significantly reduces serious illness in the vaccinated.
      
      We are twenty times less likely to be hospitalised.
      
      And no, the vaccine doesn’t help the unvaccinated, the clue is in the word.
      
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      January 18, 2022 3:19pm
    - Stu2
      
      The NSW ICU number is currently 209, with 63 of those on ventilators. That number is managable given their ICU resource.
      
      But with low vaccination numbers it would be far, far worse. If the double vax rate was only 80% then that number could be 400-500.
      
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      January 18, 2022 3:41pm
  - MCōs
    
    NSW has a 77.9% two dose vaccination rate for the total population & 19.8% three dose.
    NZ 78% & 15%
    
    Yesterday NSW had its highest daily number of deaths since the pandemic began. That is 36.
    There are also 2850 people in hospital incl 209 in ICU.
    The equivalent to 22, 1740 & 127 in NZ.
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:26pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Interesting, thanks. In NZ terms that would be about 20% above normal 100/day deaths. So probably about 500 for NZ when Omicron passes through over the course of a month long wave, similar to our road toll – that scares nobody out of living their lives. And remembering that it will be almost all people who are near death from other causes, mainly age, anyway.
      
      Really just confirms that Omicron is nothing to be frightened of (unless perhaps you are seriously ill).
      
      Let it rip.
      
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      January 18, 2022 5:10pm
      - MCōs
        
        My mother had breast cancer when she was seventy. If covid-19 had been around at the time and she’d died with it people like you would have said it was the cancer wot dunnit.
        She recovered from the cancer and lived another twenty five years and died of a stroke.
        A friend of mine had a heart attack in the ocean and drowned. But wait did he die of heart disease?
        That was thirteen years ago. He might have been still alive today if he’d been in a better location.
        Writing someone off because they are a certain age is callous.
        
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        January 18, 2022 8:08pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Luckily Omicron is significant less virulent than Delta and even the small minority that require hospitalization only 20% (compared to Delta) require O2 support and ventilation.
    
    The pressures we are seeing health care systems are due to the high number of absenteeism and stand downs.
    
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    January 18, 2022 7:06pm
- mandk
  
  Why does Bloomfield think that high vaccination rates will help?
  
  An Israeli study indicates that the vax doesn’t do anything against omicron: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-study-shows-4th-shot-covid-19-vaccine-not-able-block-omicron-2022-01-17/
  
  “A fourth shot of COVID-19 vaccine boosts antibodies to even higher levels than the third jab but it is not enough to prevent Omicron infections, according to a preliminary study in Israel.”
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:41pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Well my 2 jabs were 7 months ago.
    Question?
    What percentage are over 6 months old?
    How can we still have a 93% vac rate then?
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:13pm
    - bronny1
      
      well i guess if you still have a valid vax pass that piece of paper (or code on your phone) protects you……and protects me as well //sarc
      
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      January 18, 2022 3:58pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Yep. Good to go for another 4 months.
        Phew..
        
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        January 18, 2022 9:01pm
  - Stu2
    
    If not having the hospitals and ICUs neck deep in patients is what he is after then the vaccines have a contribution to make.
    
    But by reducing the impact of the illness, not preventing infection.
    
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    January 18, 2022 2:40pm
    - mandk
      
      I dare say you are correct about the vax attenuating the effects of infection, rather than preventing it.
      
      But the current control measures don’t make much sense, if we already have 90%+ double vaxxed.
      
      Time to let omicron do its thing. From now on anything else will be virtually useless at best and harmful at worst, especially given the non-covid health, economic and social costs.
      
      I can’t see the PM letting go, however. The end of controls will shift the focus onto the manifest and multiple failings of her government in most other areas of policy.
      
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      January 18, 2022 4:14pm
- kevn
  
  @Hard Cheese… Odd that highly Pfizered Iceland and Israel are suffering big numbers as well.
  
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  January 18, 2022 4:19pm
Prince

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300496408/tova-obrien-discovery-nz-in-legal-wrangle-over-radio-host-job-start-date
A source which I cannot name tells me both Newshub and Mediaworks want out of their contracts, as both have lost confidence in Ms Obrien.
Staff at both organisations refuse to work with her.
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January 18, 2022 12:03pm
- MCōs
  
  A source which doesn’t want to be named viz me, doesn’t give a flying fuck about your idle gossip.
  
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  January 18, 2022 2:12pm
- kevn
  
  @Prince… Money will sort it. As usual.
  
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  January 18, 2022 4:16pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Contract appears reasonable. If Tova does not expect her former employers don’t want her conferring extras on her new employers she is somewhat naive.
  
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  January 18, 2022 6:14pm
Nickc2

The Fisherman’s been caught in his own Gill Net
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who has previously refused to comment, told reporters on Monday there’s nothing more to say about the incident.
She stated through clenched teeth: “Everything that is to be said has been. He’s made an apology and I think that really covers everything.”
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/pm-breaks-silence-on-gayford-rapid-test-controversy/ar-AASQAJn?ocid=uxbndlbing
No PM, it doesn’t cover everything! Was he telling tales out of bed, or was it a Caucus Paper you gave him to read?
Your Team of Five Million (me excluded) deserves better than an angry/snide mum’s rant.
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January 18, 2022 12:18pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A master-class of the PM controlling her compliant media.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:50pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Master class in nothing. Just further demonstration of the total corruption of NZ media by govt payments and left wing capture (eg O’Sullivans 1st law: “All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.”)
    
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    January 18, 2022 5:13pm
- greybeard
  
  Can she actually clench her teeth ?
  
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  January 18, 2022 4:36pm
  - Nickc2
    
    It took some time. She had to take her foot out of her mouth first.
    
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    January 18, 2022 9:26pm
I remember when

HB Today: Even worse than last year. Staff shortage concern ahead of apple picking season.
The crucial apple picking season is just weeks away and one industry leader believes it could be even worse that last year.
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January 18, 2022 12:29pm
- MCōs
  
  Brian Tamaki’s not doing anything.
  
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  January 18, 2022 2:09pm
Maggie Pie

Just sitting out by the pool with a fresh creme donut from Farro.
And I’ll bet you this….I’m not the only one sending abusive txts to that cretin Tim Roxbrah on ZB.

LOL!
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January 18, 2022 12:35pm
- mandk
  
  The other Tim is just as bad.
  
  And it becomes completely unbearable when they are both on together. They are a pair of drips.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:35pm
- alloytoo
  
  With regret I was driving home, otherwise….
  
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  January 18, 2022 7:49pm
oldfella

According to the horrid…

Working from home and lowering the number of people allowed at gatherings are all back on the table as the Government plans for an inevitable Omicron outbreak.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-health-officials-to-give-update-on-case-numbers-as-govt-plans-for-omicron-outbreak/LROZJG4WOT5QID3V6N73T2ACSM/
But we all know Kiwibloggers – nudge, nudge, wink, wink – that the lowering of gathering numbers will not take place before the wedding. No, sirree!
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January 18, 2022 12:51pm
- Batman
  
  I will laugh my way through an entire bottle of wine if they have to cancel or postpone the wedding.
  
  Partly due to the poetic nature of it being th PM, and partly due to the multiple claims such as the above from folks here.
  
  I look forward to any excuse for a drink tbh ?
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:34pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    We know from the March 15 anniversary cancellation that she will cancel if she absolutely has to. But like with that, she will hold off as long as shee can.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:42pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It’s a “fluid” situation Batman……one thing’s for sure, it’s been an exciting movie so far. Popcorn shares are going through the roof!
    Nobody needs an excuse to have a drink btw, it’s for medicinal purpose.
    
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    January 18, 2022 1:45pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Medicinal purpose to save my sanity. Also lowers blood pressure
      
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      January 18, 2022 2:36pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        I had to move the yardarm back an hour for daylight saving.
        
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        January 19, 2022 8:27am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Perhaps the wedding should be put off until after NZ is finally cleared of this Covid season.
  
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  January 18, 2022 6:17pm
  - jgw739
    
    Isn’t Jacinda amazing! Singlehandedly grappling with two emergencies at the same time AND planning the wedding of the century!
    
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    January 18, 2022 7:56pm
  - Bea Rossini
    
    All weddings?
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:42pm
K

Ashley Bloomfield seems much more bullish on the vaccines than the Pfizer CEO.

11 Jan: “Pfizer’s chief executive has revealed that two doses of its current Covid-19 vaccine offer “very limited protection, if any” against the Omicron variant”. “We know that the two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any,” Dr Bourla said. “The three doses with a booster, they offer reasonable protection against hospitalisation and deaths – against deaths, I think, very good, and less protection against infection.”https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-boss-says-two-doses-provides-limited-protection-if-any-against-omicron/news-story/9d76126d080e2010f05eb0b4ae5e0c45

18 Jan: The booster programme was a “key plank” in the planning, [Bloomfield] said. “We know there is good evidence that the booster is necessary and very effective against Omicron, so I encourage everyone to get out and get that.” “Bloomfield said New Zealand was not as vulnerable as a number of other countries that had been struck by Omicron because it had very high vaccination rates for the first two doses.” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-more-restrictions-likely-as-new-zealand-gets-ready-to-respond-to-omicron-outbreak/UF5TCZURFGJZ5NIUAJBQHJXX6A/
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January 18, 2022 12:55pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Ashley is telling porkies. What does he mean “very effective against omicron”? The jab increases your chance of getting omicron, it might help reduce the effects but any protection is very short lived, then it’s boster, booster, booster. Why anyone would is beyond me.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:51pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Gee..
  
  Bloomfield KNOWS the booster is effective against a variant we’ve only known about for 7 weeks.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:53pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  Bloomfield is a “key plank”
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:56pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Dr Bourla has a new vaccine for all. He outranks Bloomfield in this backwater.
  Pfizer intend to provide a full-service model where you dna can be modded to repair any genetic damage.
  You will ~~love~~ be concerned about your new masters
  
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  January 18, 2022 6:23pm
Maggie Pie

And here’s a TWEET I thort well worth sharing with the group 😎

Bestie raises a good point in relation to the ‘Gayford/Pharmacist’ incident
Why has the MSM completely ignored it?

Like it says…. “DO YOUR F—ING JOB!”

https://twitter.com/TheConsultant18/status/1483220367363944448
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January 18, 2022 1:06pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… The Vodafone clad minder doing his thang. Wonder who owns him? cindy?
  
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  January 18, 2022 4:13pm
Jack5

The scale of damage from the Tonga volcano would be magnified if there was an eruption from the field of 53 volcanoes that Auckland sits on.

Volcanic ash must choke engines of helicopters as it does those of other aircraft. This would increase the chaos as cars jammed roads out of Auckland while out-of-town rescuers and ambulances tried to get in.

This is from Geonet:

Auckland’s existing volcanoes are unlikely to become active again, but the Auckland Volcanic Field itself is young and still active.

Does Civil Defence have any plans for an Auckland eruption?

https://www.geonet.org.nz/about/volcano/aucklandvolcanicfield
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January 18, 2022 1:37pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Now THAT is a reason for wearing an N95 mask.
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:52pm
  - jgw739
    
    Double mask, at least one life jacket and a vaccine pass, surely should give enough protection.
    
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    January 18, 2022 8:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Does Civil Defence have any plans for an Auckland eruption?
  
  sure does:
  
  https://www.aucklandemergencymanagement.org.nz/media/4nukjpof/auckland-volcanic-field-contingency-plan-march-2015.pdf
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:56pm
- greybeard
  
  Back in 1967 I studied Geog-01 at Auckland University, and one of the required reads was a book called “Auckland – City of 100 Volcanoes” ( or something similar ).
  Written by an AU professor, I think: things are getting a bit hazy.
  
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  January 18, 2022 3:26pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I recommend “Volcanoes of Auckland : The essential guide”
    
    https://aucklanduniversitypress.co.nz/volcanoes-of-auckland-the-essential-guide/
    
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    January 18, 2022 4:53pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  How could they?
  The rise up Queen Street is the side of a volcano.
  
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  January 18, 2022 6:25pm
- cjn
  
  Jack, I’m sure they do. But will they read it when the crisis arrives?
  
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  January 18, 2022 7:56pm
Ra Henare

The equivalence.
Going to the Pub, coming to Kiwiblog GD.
1. Its a handy ritual to guide my day.
2. Regular idiots spouting on repetitively about “”things””
3. Some interesting points by thinking individuals
4. Occasional visitors giving a different slant on things.
5. Good feedback on what is bugging those on the right of politics.
6. Entertainment from the contrarians (on KB called trolls)

Benefit of KB is that it doesnt cost money, cause hangovers and can be visted any time of day or night
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January 18, 2022 1:40pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Hopefully David doesn’t have plans to introduce a vax passport…..;)
  
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  January 18, 2022 1:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Orion flying in circles around Whenuapai. Must be lost
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January 18, 2022 1:58pm
Maggie Pie

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January 18, 2022 2:30pm
Bridgenag

Just spent 1/2 hour on the phone ranting on to Kiwi Bank because at business banking I expect less than 4 days to answer an email. Made to wait 7 minutes before that rant and then another 5 to get to someone who might fix. Was told normal response to emails was 10 10 10 10 days Yes 10 …….
“why don t you get more people ?”

Oh we have… an extra 15. Why did it take so long then? They are in training. Bit more of a rant about socialism etc …. exhausting and distressing.

I was told by a lady who lunches she wouldn’t bank at Kiwi bank because it was a socialist bank. I said ” a bank is a bank” Anyone suggest another Kiwi owned bank?
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January 18, 2022 3:02pm
- Truman lodge
  
  Cooperative is actually pretty good..
  
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  January 18, 2022 3:45pm
- greybeard
  
  KiwiBank was a sudden idea by Jim Anderton , off the cuff, no previous investigation or business plan.
  Probably conceived at the time of mentioning it.
  And then somehow he had to deliver.
  
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  January 18, 2022 4:34pm
- rangitoto
  
  TSB, SBS.
  
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  January 18, 2022 5:08pm
- blue collar
  
  Tsb …. but they appointed a new female woke ceo who got fined 3 million for cocking up anti money laundering laws … changed the Taranaki community trust to toi?? The outfit that donates to local organisations … bring back rimmington
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:28pm
kevn

@Bridge… Kiwi Bank is still being subsidized by (us taxpayers) all these years on.
They are trying to get business accounts, but who wants to break existing bank history, for what?
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January 18, 2022 4:08pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300498230/husband-for-sale–used-condition
They called their sons “Colt” and “Ryder”.
That explains a whole lot about this article.
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January 18, 2022 4:28pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/127525501/timaru-womans-desperate-wait-to-hear-from-family-in-tonga
How did this item get onto “Stuff” ?
Did “Stuff” go out into the wide world asking for personal experiences and get a reply, or did this woman decide to get her 15 minutes and ring THEM with her “story” ?
Never let a disaster occur without milking it for anything you can.
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January 18, 2022 4:41pm
Maggie Pie

SHEESH! There’s some REAL weirdos out there!!

Popped down to NW just before to get some Oven Bake Rolls.
Going thru the self-checkout and this woman walks past me and says…. “Those Balenciaga Masks don’t do shit”

Honestly, I was so taken about I had no time to respond 🙁

Luckily I saw her driving out in an old white Lexus with a Personalised Plate…..so txt my partner to do a ‘stolen-vehicle’ check.

Turns out she lives in Meadowbank – so not even in the Zone. At least I’ve got her address anyway. Will probably poke a few old cray-bodies in her letterbox one night. Teach the rude bitch.
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January 18, 2022 5:58pm
- Colville
  
  a snapper fin slid down between window glass and door panel can cause quite a stink by the time it’s found… or so I have been told.
  
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  January 18, 2022 7:14pm
- Bea Rossini
  
  She’s right though – those Balenciaga masks don’t do shit – specially not if you’ve scored them from the Otara market.
  
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  January 18, 2022 8:47pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You sound like a nuttier version of milkey 😀
    
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    January 18, 2022 10:30pm
- Observer of Life
  
  Hmm.. do you think Bea Rossini is another of mikeandmild.. Mike’s multiple personalities?? It’s the Otara comment that’s got me ? !!
  
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  January 18, 2022 9:58pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/127532415/tonga-tsunami-auckland-council-technical-experts-on-standby-to-help-with-cleanup
I hope that these are not the same “experts” who are in control of Auckland’s infrastructural problems.
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January 18, 2022 6:43pm
NZer In Exile

Canada officially ciminalises biology.

No probs if you want to assist or encourage someone to come out as trans or homosexual, but you’ll get I believe 5 years in prison if you offer counseling that might result in them choosing to “identify” as their own biological gender or as a heterosexual. Probably soon coming to a woke government near you!

https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/the-matt-walsh-show/ep-874-canada-officially-criminalizes-biology
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January 18, 2022 7:00pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Canada’s Prime Minister in action (dancing):
  
  https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3alndp
  
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  January 18, 2022 7:06pm
Colville

a snapper fin slid down between window glass and door panel can cause quite a stink by the time it’s found… or so I have been told.
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January 18, 2022 7:16pm
fernglas

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-outbreak-upcoming-miq-room-release-postponed-due-to-omicron-cases-at-border/3MQ3AAWZK2EJOOTQYIGUKRYF7E/

So basically the borders have been shut again, from the looks of it, until 90% of the country has had boosters. Glad my return ticket is valid for 3 years.
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January 18, 2022 8:25pm
- fernglas
  
  At the present, early, rate of boosters, it will be 100 days until 90% have had them, and then there’s the kids, who have only just started their first round.
  
  Bye bye NZ; it was nice having you around.
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  January 18, 2022 8:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Late News from the Government….(but no mention yet on RNZ or “Stuff”)

Next MIQ Lottery cancelled

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2201/S00052/another-miq-lottery-postponed-time-for-honestly-and-certainty-with-the-border.htm
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