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Pineapple Lumps

RESISTANCE BRAINSTORMING EXERCISE
I am aware of the following being done by the (pro-human rights) resistance movement:
* Attending protests
* Supporting Legal action such as Oliver MMA, Grounded Kiwis
* Networking and sharing of information
* Websites for pro choice friendly / non-discriminatory businesses (accomodation, cafes etc)
* Social media debate
* Sowing seeds of doubt with the shell shocked
* Countering the barrage of C-19 fear and intimidation with facts that inspire optimism and courage
* Promotion of the importance of physical, mental, spiritual healthiness
* Asking GP’s if the treatment plan they will use for C-19 is based on the international best practice and if yes what is this?
* Not wearing or minimising use of masks, in an Auckland mall this is a real counter psy-op
* Refusing to participate in the vaccine pass system
* Letters to opposition MPs pointing out the discrimination and division and asking them where they stand in the fight against tyranny
* Letters of encouragement to people who oppose the narrative of control, particularly where the MSM attack dogs go them e.g. Hipango, Tamaki etc
* Letters to businesses zealously implementing mandatory vaccination to advise them you won’t be shopping with them

If you are part of the resistance, anti-mandates and want the restoration of the full bill of human rights in NZ as soon as possible, what other positive, peaceful actions can you suggest to help achieve this?
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January 15, 2022 8:03am
- Scott
  
  Pineapple lumps – a well written piece. Like you I hunger for alternative coverage of covid. Alternative perspectives so the people can truly understand what is going on?
  Does the average kiwi know that the virus is fatal to those who are elderly and have major comorbidities? In other words they are old and sick?
  
  What treatments are truly effective? For example does ivermectin work?
  
  Why vaccinate kids when they are at almost zero risk from covid?
  
  Given omnicron is way less severe can we rule out lockdowns?
  
  The thing is that the government is controlling the narrative and resistance is being quelled under the weight of continual media propoganda.
  We do need a resistance to covid tyranny.
  Lastly what is the point of this massive discrimination of the unvaxxed when the vast majority of people are vaccinated?
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:12am
  - lifesgood
    
    I went into a garden supplies centre yesterday and genuinely forgot to put my mask on. I got yelled at by staff despite the fact the centre was mainly open air with a very strong wind sweeping through the covered bits. I had planned to spend a decent amount of money but left and went somewhere else. Will never go back there.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:49am
    - Other_Andy
      
      Went to Pak ‘n Save and Bunnings yesterday without a mask. I wasn’t the only ne not wearing a mask.
      No staff, Karens or Kevins yelling at me.
      No problems.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:24am
      - blue collar
        
        Went to a pub , sign on door n that’s it . No one wore em n sweet as .
        
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        January 15, 2022 11:14am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      This illustrates one key point: you’re going to have to get comfortable with the idea of feeling uncomfortable, as it were, and consistently putting yourself in situations that are socially stressful and confrontational. Whether it’s getting yelled at by some irate Covidian for not wearing a mask (and refusing to submit) or being expected by your employer to get your proposed 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th ineffectual booster shot in order to go to work (and refusing to submit), you’re going to have to sacrifice your cozy state of comfortable compliance, because if you don’t, nothing will change and everything will in fact escalate. On the plus side, non-compliance is great for the soul, as it makes one feel human as opposed to a compliant unit of livestock.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:25pm
    - Peter Lane
      
      I don’t wear a mask because I have an exemption. However, the only person who has questioned me was the local butcher.
      
      I know one of the supervisors at the local Countdown and she said they couldn’t care less whether you wear a mask. The big problem they have is customers complaining about other customers not wearing one. Typical.
      
      Also why the hell people are still bothering to ‘scan in’ using the tracer app is totally beyond me. It just reinforces my view that we really are a nation of sheep.
      
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      January 15, 2022 2:46pm
      - lifesgood
        
        I have never scanned in anywhere and don’t intend to. A couple of times when I have been watched I have just taken a photo, the watcher was none the wiser.
        
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        January 15, 2022 4:41pm
- artemisia
  
  Complain. Got told very abruptly by a bus driver that a scarf was not a mask. I politely informed him it was a legal face covering, made a note of time, place and bus number and emailed the bus company to sort out their training. Company said they would follow up.
  
  Same bus driver barked MASK! at passengers getting on without one.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:11am
  - mawm
    
    I’m fully part of the resistance but I have some sympathy for the bus driver. Generally they are not academic in any way and their only source of “truth” is the TV. He’s most probably scared shi*less by unmasked people.
    
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    January 15, 2022 11:46am
  - kevn
    
    @Art… Spare a thought for bus drivers transporting (mostly unhappy) folk to and from the MIQ’s. Seems to be a roster of the same blokes.
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:17pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I don’t think it is legal for someone to assume the role of ‘mask police’
    Happy to be corrected on this.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:43pm
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      Steve – there are a number of grounds to claim mask exemption – Voices for freedom have great info on this. The Government has made stores, organisation’s etc responsible for confirming you are exempt. So if asked we need to be confident and polite – “Thank-you for asking, I understand you are required to confirm why I am not wearing a mask. I am exempt – this is on medical grounds which you will understand is a private matter between my me and my medical advisor.”
      
      They have no responsibility or authority beyond this.
      
      If they push harder I would then have the MOH website handy to show them they have fulfilled their responsibility.
      
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      January 15, 2022 2:33pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        You missed the point. A Joe Blogs can not self appoint himself as a mask policeman.
        Shit, I have had jerks come up to me when loading groceries into the back of the car – with no mask.
        I can not remove my mask until I am in the car with the door and window closed?
        Yup, they got their pedigree
        
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        January 15, 2022 4:17pm
- Harlequin
  
  Today 92.4% of the population are double vaccinated. I wonder when the message is going to get through to you poor sods that your misinformation is impressing nobody apart from those in your own shrinking echo chamber.
  It’s called pissing into the wind.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Impressively high “vaccination” rates .
    
    Time to drop all the scare mongering and get back to normal ,
    
    or are the authorities afraid the “vaccination” doesn’t do what they claim it to.
    
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    January 15, 2022 11:12am
    - Bridgenag
      
      Is the far North still on red? Hope they are all ignoring it all….
      
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      January 16, 2022 6:31am
  - Happy1
    
    There is a direct correlation between the declining number of posts about the vaccine being ineffective and the declining number of Delta cases.
    
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    January 15, 2022 11:41am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      If in fact there has been a decline in the number of posts about the vaccine being ineffective, which is not the impression I get, then it’s probably for the same reason that there are hardly any posts claiming that we don’t live in a heliocentric solar system: it is beyond dispute, and nobody can credibly maintain otherwise. Even the Pfizer CEO has admitted on camera that two shots of Pfizer “offers very little protection, if any.”
      
      On this basis, Harlequin’s claim above that “today 92.4% of the population are double vaccinated” means in the real world that 92.4% of the population have very little if any protection against Covid.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:40pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      As with everything, correlation is not causation.
      
      Just a heads up, the jabs are moving into negative efficacy territory when it comes to omicron. The more you jab, the more omicron you get. Watch this space.
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:02pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Pissing in the wind is getting double jabbed and thinking it’s going to protect you from covid. Tell us how it’s working out for you after booster number 4 later this year. Maybe do a bit of research on VAED and VAERD as per the Medsafe website Risk Management Plan. I’ll help you find it. Worth reading to see what you signed up for that they didn’t tell you about.
    
    https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/Comirnaty-RMP.pdf
    
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    January 15, 2022 11:46am
    - NK
      
      Signed up for? The whole point of my opposition is I never signed up to anything, at least not consensually.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:25pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        NK apologies, I was generalising about those who still support this insanity. More so, those who know it is bs but still go along with it.
        Can’t help ignorance and many have fallen for what has been a massive blitz of propaganda, but the longer it goes on the less excuse for wilful ignorance and going through the motions.
        
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        January 15, 2022 1:13pm
      - Reid
        
        According to the mass formation science about 40% of people across all socio-economic groups, all ages and all IQ levels, have fallen prey to the propaganda. They see it as THE solution to their anxiety over covid. So giving them data that contradicts THE solution brings back their anxiety, so they resist that. You can show them all the data you like and they will completely ignore it.
        
        This is why even most doctors are going along with it.
        
        It’s too late, every country in the whole world has its 40% of its population succumbed to this hypnosis. Whomever is ever going to awaken has already awoken, we just have to see what happens next.
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:06pm
  - RightNow
    
    “Today 92.4% of the population are double vaccinated”
    Great, so why do we still have all the restrictions, mandates and mask wearing?
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:58pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Why? Because Jaspinda will not relinquish CONTROL!
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:45pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    I’m fully vaccinated and i don’t want bigots like you speaking on my behalf.
    
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    January 15, 2022 5:18pm
    - Anthony Coates
      
      There is a supreme irony in calling someone a bigot in the course of a heated argument, since it betrays that it is the name caller “who is obstinately and unreasonably attached to a belief” (the dictionary definition of a bigot).
      
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      January 16, 2022 7:05am
- curry4me
  
  Pineapple Lumps: Excelent post. I’ve done several of these things.
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:21am
- waikatosinger
  
  The problem is that many New Zealander’s think everyone who is unhappy with the governments actions on covid is a nutter like Brian Tamaki. That is what they are told to think. It is very hard to get through that.
  
  We don’t have ANY independent media in New Zealand critical of the government. They are ALL Labour party sychophants to one degree or another. Here is the kind of critique that we need and that we are missing
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu3ux1h_caU
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:24am
  - Man Among the Ruins
    
    I understand your sentiment about how New Zealanders of sub-par intelligence are encouraged to “think”, and I agree, but Brian Tamaki isn’t a nutter: he is one of the few public figures who isn’t a weak and spineless “yes man” who is too pathetic and scared to do or say anything that might affect their career progression. So they sell out the entire population. It costs nothing to go with the crowd. In the last couple of years, all New Zealand politicians have been weighed in the balance, and nearly all have been found to be seriously wanting.
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:47pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Fixed this for you, “The problem is that many New Zealander’s think everyone who is unhappy with the governments actions on covid is a nutter including (like) Brian Tamaki.”
    
    His conservative moral voice makes him a target for the left and the MSM. He is their enemy. While I have a deep respect for his leadership on this, if you don’t like him please remember the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:26pm
- titoki
  
  * Showing yourself in a messaged t-shirt on the street and offering leaflets
  Really good and encouraging article on doing this here: https://paul007edwards.wixsite.com/home/post/influencing-people-on-the-street
  
  You don’t need to try and convert people. If you do you will fail. All you have to do is show that people like you exist. If someone reacts angrily, just smile and agree to disagree. Their reaction shows that your message is reaching them at an emotional level.
  
  Holding a series of billboards along the side of the road as VFF do has a similar effect, but is a bit less personal.
  
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  January 15, 2022 2:05pm
- coge
  
  I am proud to say I have resisted every waking hour since early December. Segregation quite frankly, is not the Kiwi way. And neither is having to show some farcical vax pass to get around in everyday life. I demask when I can, this is a highly visible act. When will our freedoms be fully and unequivocally be restored? Well, we don’t accept the permission of our political class is necessary for this. Freedom will be restored fully, when we, the proud citizens of NZ take it back! Let there be no misunderstanding. We are in the process of taking our freedom back! Our numbers are growing by the day. The political class and their media enablers and other cronies are put, on the most urgent notice! Restore our freedoms, immediately and without question!
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:01pm
- Sean OConnor
  
  Meme stickers?
  The FJB crowd do it in the USA; you go to a petrol station and you see Joe Biden grinning and saying “I did that!”.
  
  There’s also carpark windscreen drops.
  
  Before one sneers or deems me 14 years old, see if one can amswer: What’s the meaningful difference between cartoons and memes?
  
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  January 16, 2022 7:39pm
Yvette

New Zealand offshore drilling rig prompts furious backlash from climate activists
The arrival of a new offshore drilling rig in New Zealand, a year after the country declared a climate emergency, has prompted a fresh wave of anger at the government’s alleged “hypocrisy” and “cynical politics” on climate change.

Appears in the Guardian, but not, it seems, in New Zealand media outlets

Meanwhile, does Bishop Apostle Messiah Brian Tamaki need to break his bail conditions by organising a protest when Newshub – “An anti-COVID-19 mandate group founded by Brian Tamaki is gearing up for a protest they are branding a “family fun day out” in Auckland this Saturday” – does it for him.
And – oops – with this comment, so do I
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January 15, 2022 8:04am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Bishop Apostle ~~Messiah~~ Brian Tamaki
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:32am
  - Tempist
    
    He’s not the messiah; he’s a very naughty boy… sorry, that maybe another Brian
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:50am
    - Jim
      
      Brilliant!
      
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      January 15, 2022 7:12pm
- Stephen Russell
  
  See:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300492720/drilling-rig-destined-for-mui-fields-offloaded-in-marlborough-sounds
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:04am
kowtow

Two newspapers , two ends of the country .

Leading , emotive stories about parents and children lining up , eager to get the experimental , non effective injection ; for the sake of others you see…..

It’s almost as if the newspapers were being paid to promote govt policy ………
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January 15, 2022 8:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And I’ll give it less than 2 weeks before we read stories of schools that are:
  completely vaxxed;
  having separate classes for the unvaxxed;
  and tales of parents who won’t send their child to school because of the unvaxxed;
  etc.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:17am
  - Mickey
    
    An employer I know sent out a survey form to all its employees to vote on whether they should allow the unvaccinated workers and unvaccinated children under 16 into the office:
    
    – 70% voted no on allowing unvaccinated workers into the office
    – 85% voted yes on allowing unvaccinated children under 16 into the office.
    
    It appears that these workers believe that unvaccinated children cannot spread the virus!
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:38am
    - NK
      
      Excellent, because it’s true. The only people who can transmit are those carrying both viral load, and also are symptomatic. It doesn’t matter if these people are vaccinated or not.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:28pm
      - Mickey
        
        Or are adults or children!
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:51pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    As unjabbed parents of an unjabbed child I am happy to report that we knew early where this was headed and took the required steps to remove our child from the education system. At first, not an easy decision or one taken lightly, but as events have unfolded and the screws have tightened, we as parents are now very comfortable with our decision. In fact, we can’t believe we initially had some doubt.
    
    Actions taken by this government are without doubt going to harm many children, physically but above all, mentally. For no gain other than political point scoring. If it was about health it should be simple to produce a risk/benefit analysis. There has never been one, not even for the adult population.
    That is an abominable situation and disgusting behaviour by any and all involved.
    
    Brenda receiving yet more international coverage, this time from el gato malo. A deceptively prescient blogger who does excellent statistical and political analysis.
    
    “those imposing it do not feel bad. they feel righteous.
    
    you can see it in their gleaming eyes and the ferret faced fervency of the zealot they so proudly wear upon their overwrought visages as they seek to trap you in totalitarian trickery by rendering that which they want as moral imperative and proclaiming apostate any who dare disagree.
    
    any world view save their world view is not only inconceivable, it is impermissible.
    
    such is the derangement of the demagogue.”
    
    That is Brenda summed up in a paragraph.
    
    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/catch-2022/comments
    
    She will achieve one thing, she will be remembered long in history, but it won’t be fondly.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:48am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      Perspective is important, and perspectives are apt to change as events develop. The holier than thou pro-vaxxers, safe as they feel they are within the refuge of the crowd, will soon be seen like a Neville Chamberlain, waiving his piece of paper proclaiming “peace in our time.” A few years later, he was shown to be a naive buffoon, who is not regarded well by posterity. In fact, he is the paradigm historical case of a shift in perspective.
      
      The sceptics and dissenters are on the right side of history, of that I have no doubt. Changes in events and narrative developments are already confirming this. As time goes by, others will inevitably come along to jump on the bandwagon, and pretend that they were in fact part of the resistance when it really mattered, but people don’t forget who said what, and did what, when they did and said it. We will know who the Neville Chamberlains are and we will not allow them to forget it.
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:02pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        You are spot on, unlike apparently the majority in NZ, I go through many, many sources of media and ensure I factor in the full spectrum, extreme to extreme. What is clearly happening is some have already jumped, but many, many more are edging towards the lifeboats. It will be a stampede very soon. There will be many who shall never be forgotten. Particularly in NZ politics and NZ media.
        The tide is turning, NZ will be among the slowest to respond. Brenda will cling on in desperation as she tries to figure out how to escape with integrity. It is never going to happen.
        
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        January 15, 2022 1:20pm
- Paulus
  
  You telling me thet the newsapapers are not being paid to promote Government policy !
  So what did they get the $105 million for then ?
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:04am
  - Jim
    
    An intelligent response in light of Omicron would be a ‘swift strategic political climb down’ and only a fool or narcissist would double down.
    
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    January 15, 2022 7:18pm
- Bob
  
  paid to promote govt policy…….
  THAT would be dishonest wouldn’t it?. Misuse of Taxpayers money for Party Political purposes; Auditor General should be looking at this.!
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:47am
Benedict Yu

This is a rare example of a well written article in Stuff.

What a shocking story.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/127444880/family-want-apology-after-police-allegedly-mock-amputee-gun-owner
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January 15, 2022 8:15am
- pdm
  
  Read this earlier BY and could not believe it.
  
  What the hell is going on in the Police Force – surely Coster the Imposter must go and so should Poto Williams.
  
  They won’t though because they are both fully on side with Ardern’s Agenda plus neither would get a job paying half as much elsewhere.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:21am
- cmm
  
  Police professionalism left the police force about the same time as they started getting full-arm tattoos.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:26am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Really they can have tatoos? ?
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:32am
    - cmm
      
      From the article you mentioned:
      
      https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/4/y/w/0/x/t/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240×700.23vl3k.png/1642134106085.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium
      
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      January 15, 2022 8:40am
      - cmm
        
        PS: That guy needs a slap for holding a water bottle with one hand while trying to control a rifle with the other.
        
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        January 15, 2022 8:42am
      - Colville
        
        cmm.
        What do you want him to do with the rifle ? lean it against the car?
        
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        January 15, 2022 9:20am
      - kowtow
        
        colville ;
        
        It should stay in the car .
        
        According to the police and this regime those are military assault rifles , totally unsuited to urban policing .
        
        We are constantly treated to images of police brandishing these things guarding scene of crime as if they’re expecting the Spetnaz or Viet Cong to turn up , hours after all and sundry have fled the scene.
        
        Like masks these are props in the theatre of fear.
        
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        January 15, 2022 9:53am
      - cmm
        
        Colville: Nope. He can wait for a drink. If he can’t then drink quickly and immediately put the bottle down. Don’t carry it around in your hand like this guy is doing.
        
        It compromises his readiness. It would take an extra second or two to get the rifle ready – long enough to make a big difference.
        
        Cops don’t need to be holding a rifle in ready position often in NZ – and not for a prolonged time (ie. not long enough to get thirsty). If he really is thirst, and needs a drink, then drink and immediately put the bottle down.
        
        I am all for people using the new
        grip with the finger away from the trigger. It is potentially much safer. But it is a far weaker grip with much reduced control meaning that you really need two hands on the rifle to control it properly.
        
        That second hand should be on the handguard. Full stop.
        
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        January 15, 2022 12:05pm
    - kevn
      
      @BY…. Yes, just like the Japanese gangsters.
      
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      January 15, 2022 8:48am
    - rjay
      
      Yes. But the amputees can’t
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:25am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      It’s pretty much compulsory now. Cultural tattoos, and a hipster beard. Remember how Coster shaved his beard off when he was first appointed as Commissioner?
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:46am
      - Manu-Rau
        
        Don’t you mean ‘Commissar’?
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:06pm
  - Souvlaki
    
    Yes !
    I recall the glee , a couple of years ago now ,at the Police graduation from one of the female graduands ” 95% of our new recruits are inked”….clearly a pinnacle of aspirational achievement!
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:36am
    - Sacha
      
      I’ve always thought of Tattoos to be avoided – like unwanted vaccinations.
      And I tend to keep my distance from people who show them off –
      
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      January 15, 2022 9:20am
      - lifesgood
        
        In Japan tattoos are a sign that you are a gangster, like gang patches. Most places in Japan will not allow entry to anyone with a tatt and we are proud of our police covered in them!!
        
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        January 15, 2022 9:52am
      - Ruahine
        
        I think of all the skin cancer in a decade or two. Of cause it will be blamed on climate change. Too much sun or some such rubbish.
        
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        January 15, 2022 9:58am
      - namron
        
        Really tattoos are self chosen graffiti on your skin -{arms, chins – anywhere| and as despicable as graffiti on a fence etc.
        
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        January 15, 2022 11:17am
    - Bob
      
      Tattoos. a display of under confidence, and a arrogance mindset.
      
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      January 15, 2022 11:50am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        They are no different to clothes. Some are subtle, some are ostentatious, some are outrageous. They are a reflection of personality, the same as clothes. They might assist in assessing a person’s traits and personality, but like clothes, they don’t define them.
        
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        January 15, 2022 1:24pm
      - kowtow
        
        No , tattoos are a highly visible expression of a persons’ independence and individuality ……..
        
        …….making them look identical to everyone else with one and simply chasing a fad.
        
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        January 15, 2022 1:37pm
      - Jim
        
        Excess vanity IMO
        
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        January 15, 2022 7:21pm
  - Bigted
    
    And their individual choice in sunglasses…
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:59am
- Spenditb4theytaxit
  
  I see that Police have been back to Carl Bromleys house and confiscated his firearms licence and slug guns.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:27am
  - cmm
    
    Slug guns too??? That’s a bit excessive.
    Even criminals are allowed to own slug guns.
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:55am
    - Spenditb4theytaxit
      
      Bromley says that they ignored the slug guns when they broke in to take his firearms. Now he has posted a video of a senior Sgt and another cop back to seize his slug guns and firearms licence. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sIOo6KKDT8&feature=share
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:42pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        How have our Police deteriorated so?
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:44pm
  - kowtow
    
    have you got a link ?
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:37am
    - Spenditb4theytaxit
      
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sIOo6KKDT8&feature=share
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:39pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Woke Police have become very childish under Coster and the Labour Govt
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:13pm
  - Nickc2
    
    This time, they knocked on the Front Door (no barging in).
    This time they did not go inside the house (no trashing of the place).
    This time they asked for stuff (no forced confiscation).
    Note: This time, the person concerned was at home and the police did not come in the middle of the night.
    Have they been retrained or rebuked?
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:27pm
    - doggone7
      
      Did they trash the place last time? To what extent? How do you know?
      
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      January 15, 2022 4:28pm
      - Spenditb4theytaxit
        
        It’s been well documented in MSM and videos on Bromleys Facebook page. Pretty disgusting.
        
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        January 15, 2022 5:11pm
- Simon
  
  “This is a rare example of a well written article in Stuff.” This is Jake the Muss taking the battered wife out to park for fish and chips.
  
  Stuff = a circle of abuse. Stuff.co.nz is pure mental illness. Avoid.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:31am
  - David Garrett
    
    Simon: The quizzes are usually quite good though…I only rarely manage 15/15
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:31am
    - pdm
      
      Me too DG – average is around 9 or 10 and it is a bad/sad day when I do not at least get 8.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:01am
  - Mickey
    
    Friends don’t let friends read stuff!!
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:41am
- kowtow
  
  Proof the Media can have their cake and eat it.
  
  They’re complicit for much of the hysteria that drives the “anti ” mob .
  
  btw if you want a really good larf have a look at the story re sentencing a gangster with guns in the Whoreald today. headhunter turns life around.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:32am
- Tomtoddy
  
  It took seven armed police to tackle the home of an amputee????
  
  Meanwhile up the street at gang HQ you could hear the hoots of derision. “Come and visit us. We have a few guns. They are not antiques either. We are a bit younger and more able bodied too. Seven of your pussies may be too few”.
  
  Hearing Coster’s weasel words – no facts, no stats, just smarm – makes you realise the gangs are not losing any sleep.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:37am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    There should be a standard in policing that they be required to deal with the worst offenders and worst problems ahead of any luxury easy posturing policing. EG fix rapidly escalating gang violence before wasting time on any of this sort of politically motivated posturing/repression.
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:49am
  - rjay
    
    Rubbing it in: saying the police still had their arms
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:27am
- Rich Prick
  
  The Police need to be put back in their box until they learn that that they are to serve us, not terrorise us.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:41am
  - Sacha
    
    By using the word ‘terrorise’ you encourage them. They think they are winning.
    Hooray, they think, it’s working -let’s do some more!
    And the PM gives them a pat on the back.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:23am
    - pdm
      
      `And the PM gives them a pat on the back.’
      
      Well probably only Coster the Imposter – she would not want to be seen associating with the rank and file.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:04am
Tomtoddy

The silence from our political masters is deafening. Rome is burning. The mantra seems to be – don’t prepare – wait for the next “disaster” and swan in as the smiling saviour.

That is all the fearful sychophants need to stay faithful. It gives succour to the bought and paid for media who rely on catastrophe.
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January 15, 2022 8:21am
- Benedict Yu
  
  The PM has been literally silent for 4 weeks. During a time when borders are closed and we are all wondering what the plan is.
  
  Also she is apparantly planning a lavish wedding in the next couple of weeks. In any other Western country today, that would be political suicide. To use an analogy, what would happen to Scomo if he arranged a lavish celebration for a family member right now. ?
  
  Sorry it just rubs me the wrong way. Of course she can get married, but on a billionaire’s estate with high profile musicians? I guess “capitalism has failed” doesn’t apply in this case. It produces some fab wedding ? venues. ?
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:31am
  - cmm
    
    Well not quite silent. She did say “no comment” when her current boyfriend was caught out over that RAT business.
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:33am
    - pdm
      
      And is going to speak to The Queen about Andrews replacement when it is the Queens and Governor Generals decision and she is probably at least 4th cab off the rank after the Chief Of Defence Forces as well.
      
      Distracting from fiances clanger probably.
      
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      January 15, 2022 8:53am
      - cjn
        
        Do we have an army pdm? As I understand they have not had any training since they took over quarantine duties.
        
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        January 15, 2022 11:39am
      - Nickc2
        
        cjn @ 1139AM
        We now have an Army of Quarantine Orderlies.
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:34pm
    - blue collar
      
      Going to be a major drama soon to take heat off Gayford …. Rustle up another edition or tsunami or something that saint brenda will scold n fix
      Would be ironic if isolating coz dj dimension has given them all omicron
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:09am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      No she didn’t; her office said “no comment”, just as it was Gayford’s manager who apologised.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:48am
  - ecco
    
    I think it’s called ‘Champagne Socialism’ BY
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:40am
    - Paulus
      
      Use to be simple Chardonnay Socialists – now Champagne !
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:08am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Limousine Liberals
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:20pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Yet the First Boyfriend has been pretty vocal on speakerphone.
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:44am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Cinders is a failed wannabe celebrity. Having made a huge gain on her house purchase she’s splashing out on an event to make more from publicity rights. NZ’s Megan Markle with a fishy prince?
    Pride goes before a fall.
    
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    January 15, 2022 8:57am
  - doggone7
    
    “She can get married, but on a billionaire’s estate with high profile musicians?”
    
    I reckon the government should draw up a charter about weddings. It could delineate what sort and particular venues certain people are allowed to use and which entertainment/musicians they are allowed to use.
    
    That’d be the way to go wouldn’t it? FFS we spend half our lives bitching about personal and individual freedom, someone does something which doesn’t affect us and we bitch about them exercising their freedom.
    
    But it’s “not a good look”? Well look the other way or go to SpecSavers.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:31am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      The point that you’ve clearly missed is the blatant hypocrisy.
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:11pm
      - doggone7
        
        What blatant hypocrisy? The blatant hypocrisy of getting a job, earning a wage and spending it how you want?
        The blatant hypocrisy of wanting to be like the rich people living the good life and getting into the position to do it?
        
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        January 15, 2022 4:31pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      People including PM’s can exhibit their foolishness and pride as they please.
      
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      January 15, 2022 2:48pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Scomo got one hell of a lot of flack when he holidayed in Hawaii when there were bad bush fires.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:35am
  - Mickey
    
    If it were not for double standards lefties would have none!!
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It may be her Marie Antoinette moment, it certainly has the same feel to it. Astonishing arrogance and hubris.
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:14am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      Yes. The clearly deluded portion of the country who voted for her – on the basis of positive emotions concocted through the promulgation of a fairytale– are as apt to feel the negative emotions that are stimulated by Ardern’s ever-increasing displays of arrogance, hubris and contempt. Relying on the emotive tendencies of voters is a double-edged sword.
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:16pm
    - doggone7
      
      Yeah, I heard her say some words once about people living in poverty. So I expect her to live a poverty stricken life.
      I heard her say something about fossil fuels too and she travels in plains and cars and doesn’t walk everywhere. Astonishing arrogance and hypocrisy.
      
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      January 15, 2022 4:34pm
  - Fletch
    
    You can picture her now at the wedding speeches.. “Comrades, comrades, comrades… Our work here is almost done!”
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:31am
  - Scooter
    
    Apparently their roles have reversed now she’s on holiday, she’s now the wedding planner and he’s giving out Govt advice (albeit wrong).
    
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    January 15, 2022 4:49pm
  - Jim
    
    Disgusting dereliction of duty by the PM, unforgivable especially with 90% vaccinations and yet so many people suffering unnecessary separation and Omicron sweeping through and quickly replacing Delta.
    
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    January 15, 2022 7:27pm
- Simon
  
  “The silence from our political masters is deafening”
  
  Yes Cindy said she followed the science and said the double dose was the golden ticket out. What in purely science terms has changed?? Could it be from a science pov that the jaxx are utterly chicken shit for the purposes of organizing and running society around the virus?
  
  Will we get an update before they jaxx the children? A science update that is. We all know what the Pfizer CEO says about the jaxx in relation to the virus. New product launch in March.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:40am
  - Man Among the Ruins
    
    The plan is to rely heavily on the 5 minute attention span of the majority, who tend to forget what lie was told to them last week.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:18pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Did Cinders get the saline jab or the other one?
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:49pm
blue collar

So if we wanted to see if Miq spots were actually random lotto is that information available under OIA?
Willa royal commission be able to dig it up ?
Or is it too easy to manipulate at the other end and hide it .
Big ammo if the truth can come out , I’m convinced they are rorting it for their mates which in my opinion is blatant corruption with shades of insider trading
There will be a computer somewhere with all recorded inputs , random or manual right?
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January 15, 2022 8:22am
Lee C

Is the ‘Great reset’ just going to plan?
As they step off the covid- hysteria, is it merely because their objectives have been met?
”

To use an apt metaphor, imagine the “Great Reset” agenda as an invading army, marching through town after town, winning battle after battle and burning as they go.

There comes a point where you have to stop. Your supply lines are pulled taut, your men are tired and numbers dwindling, and the occupied citizens are putting up more and more resistance. Push on now, and your entire campaign could crumble.

What you do in that situation is withdraw to a defensible position and fortify it. You don’t give back the land you’ve taken, or not much of it at least, but you stop pushing forward….”

https://off-guardian.org/2022/01/10/what-they-really-mean-by-living-with-covid/?fbclid=IwAR154hWmPGg4SmRkcdTPkTA2-LPTf2G3GB59rLNf9rNhiNDk7oDCyKvdHi8
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January 15, 2022 8:34am
- blue collar
  
  Lee c I think you’re on to something .
  So to do this they hv 2 years to form a republic and draw up a constitution that locks in their gains irrespective on whether Nat /act get in next time .
  Otherwise they can repeal all labour’s changes .
  A constitution based around minorities and apartheid / treaty rules .
  God help us .
  Referendums will be our only escape .
  I wonder if they could do this under emergency powers ? .
  Personally I’m willing to bet a carton Brenda has had a gutsful , and just wants to sail off into the sunset with neve n Clarke and leave the mess behind . Won’t see the term out .
  
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  January 15, 2022 12:08pm
MCōs

The Australian Government certainly seem determined to show Novak Djokovic the door.
If the deportation sticks it’s my understanding it carries an automatic 3yr ban from entering the country, unless there’s an exception made.
However there’s a good chance by the time next summer rolls around there will be a new administration. Who knows what will happen?
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January 15, 2022 8:34am
- Dr John
  
  So Djokovic is booted out in about one week following the revelation that he travelled Serbia to Spain on his way to Melbourne.
  Meanwhile, Dotcom continues to relax in Queenstown [for how many years now?] following a similar, but much worse, deliberate error in his arrival documents.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:00am
  - Paulus
    
    France, and the Tennis Open, are dithering about him especially as there is an election shortly.
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:13am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Different countries, different rules…
    but if we are talking about folks who have fibbed on their arrival documents, you couldn’t go much past:
    Karel Sroubek/Jan Antolik
    
    or the NZ resident chap currently on trial in Fiji for 5 murders…
    Mohammed Isoof
    (previously deported from Australia before rocking up to NZ)…
    
    In his ruling, Justice Chamath Morais said Mr Isoof had failed to provide evidence why he was deported from Australia and moved to New Zealand.
    
    He said before moving to New Zealand he had undergone a name change.
    
    He explained that Mr Isoof’s name change and deportation issues were provided during his first bail application in 2019.
    
    https://www.fijitimes.com/court-denies-isoof-bail-trial-set-for-july/
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:21am
    - kowtow
      
      The much celebrated Ahmed Zaoui who trashed his passport on landing.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:42am
    - MCōs
      
      There’s a guy in the Thai Cabinet, Thammanat Prompao, who pleaded guilty to importing heroin into Australia and spent years in prison, under another name.
      Unbelievable he has been talked about as the next PM.
      The guy has wonderful connections in the military.
      All this has been in the Thai papers, but he just sails on.
      Of course the other countries around SE Asia don’t give a rat’s arse, but his conviction would prevent him from traveling to many others.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:04pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Isn’t Tedros, head of the WHO, a former terrorist according to Ethiopia? One man’s terrorist etc.
        
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        January 15, 2022 1:32pm
- Paulus
  
  Only if they change the Federal Laws to allow him dispensation next year.
  Will be very very unpopular politically even in Australia but we know Labor does not care especially in Australa where nearly all the State Leaders are Labour sycophants anyway.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:12am
  - MCōs
    
    I think you’ll find the Minister already has the discretion to let the bloke in, but they tend to be pretty hardline over there if it suits.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:09pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Whatever happens it’s a terrible optic for Australia as a country. Their international image over the last 18 months has been absolutely hammered.
  I certainly don’t see myself ever visiting in my life again and I know many friends feel the same. They have been watching events unfold in complete astonishment. Same with Canada.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:20am
  - exkiwi
    
    New Zealand’s image is pretty bad too. Aren’t Australia’s borders open now, even for non citizens? New Zealand can’t open up because of its hospital system being inadequate (despite two years of this and Omicron being milder). But Omicron is going to get in anyway according to the government. So, basically Jacinda having done nothing to get the healthcare system ready doesn’t want to have ‘blood on her hands’ and so is just leaving it to the fates to decide. That’s much kinder, in Jacinda logic.
    
    This is not leadership, and the country seems rudderless and flailing from abroad.
    
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    January 15, 2022 11:46am
  - mawm
    
    I had been considering moving to Australia to be near my daughter but the last 4 or so months has put me off, not that I think NZ is not going to go the same way. The dominos are going to fall – in order Canada, Australia, NZ and then the UK. The USA is the the big one and once we have all gone the fight will be on.
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:10pm
    - MCōs
      
      What fight will be on in NZ when the ‘domino falls’?
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:14pm
- Fletch
  
  Looks like Novak is appealing. Plus, he has a diplomatic passport. Might he harder to boot than they think.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:33am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Personally, I find Djokovic particularly unappealing, but I guess there’s no accounting for taste!
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:50am
    - NK
      
      Why? Because he doesn’t play by the Authoritarians rules? I think he’s an effing hero.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:31pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        No, nothing to do with Covid; I just don’t particularly like the bloke, as good a tennis player as he is.
        
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        January 15, 2022 3:25pm
      - mawm
        
        1. He gave 1,000,000 euros to Italian hospitals for C19
        2. Gave 1,000,000 euros to Serbian hospitals for C19
        3. He gave money to Spain for C19
        4. Donated money to Australia to fight forest fires
        5. Donated funds to the Melbourne City Mission’s programs for poor children
        6. Bought a CT scanner for Belgrade’s Dragiša Mišović Hospital
        7. He rented a private plane to transport a girl with a rare disease to the United States for treatment
        8 Gave $ 1,000,000 to the Australian Open in favor of the juniors
        9. He gave 500,000 euros to fight the floods in Serbia
        10. He donated 110,000 euros to fight floods in Bosnia and Croatia
        11. Raised $ 1,500,000 for flood-damaged kindergartens
        12. He gave millions of euros to educate poor children of thirteen.
        13. He paid for the winter training of 15 Serbian tennis players
        14. He offered Lorenzo Musetti a ride on his private pitch so as not to miss Wimbledon or the school test
        15. Fight for the interests of players throughout the establishment
        16. He is a role model for his healthy lifestyle and diet
        17. He is a role model in his character and mental endurance
        18. He is a role model in his hard work and self-discipline
        19. Play every tournament against opponents and spectators
        20.. He dominated the field against both Nadal and Federer, playing his entire career in the Nadal and Federer eras.
        21. He did not allow himself to be intimidated and became a hero in the movement of resistance to small bullies
        
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        January 15, 2022 8:20pm
    - Jim
      
      With respect it’s about truth and law, not personal opinion.
      
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      January 15, 2022 7:37pm
  - kevn
    
    @Fletch… Novak will push it and finally get over the line, then tell then to get stuffed.
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:25pm
  - Man Among the Ruins
    
    The symbolism in the Djokovic case is massive. To focus on the minutia is to miss the bigger point. Everyone who has spent the last two years rightly complaining about the arbitrary rule by technocrats we have been subjected to, with zero consultation, should be cheering Novak on. He represents the struggle that we are all engaged in. I hope he sticks it right up the Aussie authorities and comes away with the tournament win.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:26pm
    - Fletch
      
      A look at the comments underneath the story that 1 News posted on Facebook shows that the ‘mass formation’ is working though. The majority of them saying it is a good decision and saying he should leave etc. What a mind-**** the ruling class has pulled on the world.
      
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      January 15, 2022 2:06pm
    - Jim
      
      Agree, but something tells me if he succeeds Au authorities might find he return a positive test.
      
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      January 15, 2022 7:39pm
  - Manu-Rau
    
    How does his having a diplomatic passport change things? People seem to think diplomatic passports are all-powerful, but they are not.
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:27pm
K

These days, the Aotearoans must live life with an “abundance of caution”. It is the way things are done in Aotearoa, the successor to the number eight wire approach of the old country.

Whereas information provision from the government previously aimed at helping people to assess risk, make decisions and understand what was going on, under the new ethos the government works out its goal for the Aotearoans, and provides only the information that will make the Aorearoans act in a way that achieves the government’s goal for them.

We see this in the information about covid vaccines – the government wants all the Aotearoans to get vaccinated so detailed information about side effects, covid transmission between vaccinated people, and the successes with treatments in other countries, is suppressed or minimised in the government’s media because full information might detract from the goal.

There is also the messaging on covid itself, the government wants the Aotearoans to stay home, so it tells the Aotearoans about the deadly Delta and the huge risks they face to their very survival from doing normal activities. Information about the low rate of people who die of covid is not to be dug into. The minuscule risk to children is to be kept quiet. Information must have a singular focus, a competing view or nuance might detract from the goal.

Curious that the government has not yet applied the “abundance of caution” approach to the fire danger signs around the country (that’s what we used to call the motu, for any leading civil servants). I drove past one that was set to “moderate”. What is the government thinking? Surely the fire danger signs must always be set to “extreme”.
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January 15, 2022 8:36am
- KevO'Brien
  
  You ruined this by the use of pidgin.
  We’ve never had an Ow terror moa as NZ’s name although we have one as a wedding planner.
  Motu is in unacceptable substitute too.
  
  Don’t give Mahuta an inch as she backhandedly is on path to take all your land back. Registered land titles are now in jeopardy.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:05am
  - jgw739
    
    Yes Kev, I think the overuse of Manglish by government, media and others needs to be hit on the head. There are three official languages in New Zealand and that isn’t one of them.
    
    As for Mahuta, will she be given the housing portfolio in 2022? She could revamp the Kiwibuild programme. It could be renamed ‘3 Houses’….
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:31am
- calendar girl
  
  Thanks, K. Your seven references to “Aotearoa” demonstrate how adoption of Aotearoa as the official name of our country would be a painfully backward step.
  
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  January 15, 2022 2:24pm
Tasman devil

Lorde sung while New Zealand burned.
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January 15, 2022 8:38am
slightlyrighty

We are now seeing major problems in the financial markets as a result of the well intentioned, but stupidly designed and implemented new financial lending rules.

Given that these are being implemented as businesses are trying to trade out of the global economic clusterfuck that is Covid, it could not have been put into place at a worse time.

Given that 1st Tier lenders have always been responsible, all this will do is send the vulnerable to 2nd and 3rd tier lenders, who are rubbing their hands with glee! In other words, the opposite effect!

We can add this to the list.

Gun Control
House Affordability
House Supply
Rent Affordability
Mental Health
Health in General
Carbon Emissions
Maori Land Disputes
Social Housing
Child Poverty
Industrial Relations
Immigration
Infrastructure
and now Financial Lending Rules.

Everything above is what Labour promised to focus on, and all of this has got worse.
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January 15, 2022 8:39am
- pdm
  
  About the only thing this Government excels at is Unintended Consequences with any legislation it passes.
  
  Ill thought out.
  Poorly presented.
  Detrimental to the people of New Zealand.
  
  They have remarkable consistency in those fields.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:58am
- KevO'Brien
  
  More to come. Even Robbo will want to resign this year.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:06am
  - Jim
    
    Having served his purpose with TGR?
    
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    January 15, 2022 7:42pm
- Pavel
  
  About the only thing they will have to campaign on is that they got rid of plastic bags in supermarkets. Genuine question, and I’ve spent many months pondering it, is there anything else they have achieved that’s beneficial to NZ?
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:14am
  - kevn
    
    @Pavel… I still a few of those old plastic bags in use. They last longer than the synthetic woven ones. Put a good load of groceries in the woven type and the handles just rip away.
    Still waiting for the fruit sticker solution that was promised. To keep the kids happy.
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:27pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “achieved that’s beneficial to NZ?”
    Yup, being able to lie compulsively and the sheep believe the lies
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:33pm
ecco

I see Ardern has sent out the buffoon David ‘mountain bike’ Clark to do damage control on the credit contracts and consumer finance act October 2021 amendments (CCCFA) which have basically tanked the housing market by creating a government induced credit crunch.

This has wide ranging consequences for all NZers. Property sales have ground to a halt. Retirees wanting to move into a village due to health reasons cannot sell their houses, highly leveraged property owners can’t roll over facilities, which may cause foreclosure, developers can’t get new build apartment buildings and projects off the ground because they can’t make the required pre sales to get funding, people wanting to sell house to move towns are stymied. And on and on.

And what is Clark’s reply. ‘The banks may be over reacting to the law changes’. Honestly you couldn’t make this up. Is this guy for real? His government has bought in laws requiring banks to go through, line by line, someone’s bank account and decline applicants on too maany Uber eats etc. Apparently there are also provisions where the mortgage approver at the bank can be prosecuted for not lending responsibly.

What the hell does Clark expect the banks to do? They’ve been in the business of lending in some cases 100 years. They know what they are doing. Yet he comes out and says ‘it must be their fault, they’ve over reacted’. This government is being run by a bunch of clowns who are slowly demolishing NZ business, and society.

My advice is if you can hold off selling your house for six months, to do so, until the idiots in government fix up this very poorly constructed piece of legislation that is having wide ranging effects on the liquidity of the nz housing market.

Clark has no credibility after that mountain biking in lockdown incident. He should be relegated to the back benches immediately.
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January 15, 2022 8:40am
- cmm
  
  Clark is a buffoon. But what alternatives have they got? They all deserve to be back benchers.
  
  Give the job to Mega Fighter?
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:00am
  - ecco
    
    Did cross my mind cmm. Yes there is definitely a shortage of talent at the moment. Faafoi also springs to mind as in the incompetence category as well.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:30am
    - pdm
      
      I will raise you Stuart Nash and Poto Williams and leave it for someone else to mention the invisible man – Phil Twyford.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:10am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Faafoi isn’t so much incompetent as so far out of his depth (on immigration, especially) that he is paralysed by inaction.
      
      He reportedly wanted to retire last election, but was talked into staying. He should have listened to his instincts, and he would have saved himself and immigrants a lot of heartache.
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:56am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Who do they have to replace him? He’s relatively bright by Labour standards.
        
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        January 15, 2022 2:54pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        And therein lies the problem. His successor in Mana, Barbara Edmonds, seems reasonably capable. Then again, that’s what everyone said about Faafoi, when he was making a decent fist of some minor portfolios.
        
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        January 15, 2022 3:28pm
  - Taieri
    
    They all deserve to be back benchers.
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    They don’t deserve to be back benchers. They don’t deserve to be in the Parliament. But we keep putting them there…
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:07am
- Colville
  
  ecco.
  The Banks get paid to lend money, its how they earn so they are VERY keen to lend money to home buyers as its a very safe and very profitable thing to do. Who woldnt love to have a business where you can earn a lazy Bil$$/yr for doing some paperwork?
  For Clark (the Covid cyclist) to sling shit at the banks is just laughable . Labour were told this was going to be a train wreck but they knew better…now the train has derailed and all the unhappy young couples around NZ who cant get a loan are complaining, Labour is looking at its polling numbers and getting shit scared.
  Good on Seymour for attacking on this topic too. He remains the best politician in New Zealand.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:32am
- Hollyfield
  
  The Government also said it wasn’t up to them to determine what hate speech is, they would just pass the law then it would be up to judges to decide on the definition. Just passing the buck rather that passing proper legislation.
  
  UK banks have been doing the same thing in declining mortgages for a few years, and I disagree with the law entirely. When deciding whether a person is a good risk to lend money what matters is that person’s income and total expenditure. It should be a financial decision. What that person chooses to spend their discretionary money on is irrelevant. Declining a mortgage because they eat takeaways is a moral judgement, not a financial one.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:40am
  - Cinematic
    
    Yes, it is bizarre. You either have the dosh or you don’t. The irony of course is the politicians who enacted this nonsense legislation spend our money on all manner of ridiculous schemes.
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:35am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    I believe it is part of the common law that if a lender knowingly lends to a borrower an amount beyond their ability to repay in a timely way the lender may not recover such debt. That’s fair–all sensible lenders follow it.
    
    What has happened the govt has created a credit crackdown to ease the demand for house loans. That rationing will bring closer examination of people’s means including their income and what surplus is available to repay loans.
    
    Being questioned about domestic expenditure following a loan application is normal and proper. There is usually no automatic right to a loan and depending on scarcity of money and likely interest rate changes banks can increase or reduce their lending opportunities. Govt directives may force tightening too.
    
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    January 15, 2022 3:10pm
- Inthe09
  
  There are more ‘Risk and Compliance’ staff in Banks now than Bankers.
  
  The Banks are terrified of being off-side with the Government so go totally over-the-top in their interpretation of any new legislation.
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:39am
  - artemisia
    
    Maybe bankers have read the section in the Act on pecuniary penalties and the big numbers potentially attached.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:02pm
    - Inthe09
      
      The Exec teams appear to have that’s for sure.
      
      Crap legislation = crap outcomes. Who would have guessed.
      
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      January 15, 2022 1:21pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

What’s with the ‘Cyclone’ Cody media beat up? There’s been breathless reporting since it washed over Fiji as a category 1 storm (which is the lower end of the scale); it’s been downgraded since then & for the last week has been tracking towards Gisborne.

Hello – isn’t it just some rain & a swell? What we used to call bad weather?
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January 15, 2022 8:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  At this time of year there’s quite a few folks camping by the coast or putting out to sea on boats they infrequently use.
  
  It probably pays to keep a watchful eye on the weather if you’re planning a long trip on unfamiliar roads around the East Coast.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:05am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Absolutely. But weather predictions belong with the weather forecast, unless truly dire; and then only when they’re 24-36 hours out, not a week in advance & well out in the Pacific.
    
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    January 15, 2022 4:46pm
- blue collar
  
  Brenda will be standing on an east coast beach with a small swell and take full credit for preventing a tsunami …..
  undersea eruption aswell at the mo out there , she can do a White Island and claim full credit for stopping effects from that aswell . I’ll start polishing her halo … someone grab the Pacifica blanket
  If she does it in her wedding dress , arms raised , scolding the ocean … how good for the optics ?
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:52am
Benedict Yu

The surge of people getting boosted has surprised me. But I usually get these predictions wrong ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300495425/covid19-new-auckland-vaccination-centre-launched-to-meet-booster-demand

I saw reports yesterday of people lining up for a couple of hours. Why would you?

Boosters have hit nearly 700,000. Next week will be interesting. Many people end their holidays and they will want a booster. Plus there will be a surge of panicked parents desperate to vaccinate their young children.

Another unexpected trend. The numbers of people getting first doses has been trending up each day. Yesterday 1,500 people got vaccinated for the first time,up from daily numbers of around 400 during December.
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January 15, 2022 9:05am
- MCōs
  
  Over the last three weeks NZ has averaged 30 new delta infections a day.
  78% of the entire population has been double jabbed & 13.7% triple.
  Seems the more people that are vaccinated the fewer are infected.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:49am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    As Bloomfield and Brenda would say if someone brought up jab injuries and deaths, “correlation is not causation.” Once you bring that chestnut out you don’t get to use it selectively.
    Anyway, real world data is coming out more and more showing the opposite is true. The more jabbed you are the more the chance of getting covid. Fact.
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:26am
  - blue collar
    
    No ones getting tested …. only the fearful n timid with a sniffle or close household contacts of existing ….
    who wants to be locked up or stuck at home on their one long break a year ?
    Wait til everybody back at work , then it will climb , as paid time off from work is on the cards , stay at home on the bosses time , not yours .
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:55am
  - krazykiwi
    
    “Seems the more people that are vaccinated the fewer are infected.”
    
    Seems you need to research a bit more. The evidence from earlier vaxxed countries shows exactly the opposite.
    
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    January 15, 2022 3:48pm
    - MCōs
      
      We live in NZ.
      
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      January 15, 2022 7:23pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Here’s a little starter: https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1474106318206255113. The volume of similar research findings have gone from trickle to fire-hose over about 3 months. Anyone who continues to align their world view with the vaxx=safety-and-freedom narrative is unspeakably foolish.
    
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    January 15, 2022 3:57pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You must be circulating with a younger set….
  all my old mates are either boosted or booked in for their booster…
  
  Quite a few of them were risk-takers in their early lives; but now seem to want certainties.
  I’m given up explaining that there is no guarantee that the booster will do much for them.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:58am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I am sure of one prediction. If Omicron roars into New Zealand, expect to see vaccine centres overwhelmed with panicked people wanting their booster. It will be like that scene on 30 April 1975 with the last USA helicopter taking off from the embassy roof in Saigon. ?
    
    Also expect news footage of panicked parents dragging 5 year olds into the vaccine centres. The media will be in a frenzy. ? And right on queue, Jacinda will return from her honeymoon to announce that she is pregnant and we will all be OK. And to get boostered!!!!! . ??????
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:39am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Probably right BY, compare that fear and panic, deliberately created by Ardern and co, to the latest update from Dr John Campbell in the UK. Very reassuring, very calm and measured.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRycK82LsTE
      
      The problem for NZ is going to be our 2 years hiding from covid. We’ll see how the jab works in protecting from omicron, but more evidence is emerging almost daily that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting. On a positive note, the UK is reporting that omicron is significantly less severe and indistinguishable from normal winter colds and sniffles.
      
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      January 15, 2022 12:25pm
      - Jim
        
        If there’s real scientific data ‘one truth’ worth listening to it’s Dr John Campbell with his charismatic delivery and balance of scientific data based analysis (credited by 2M subscribers). I strongly recommend that every kiwi watches him weekly on YouTube.
        
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        January 15, 2022 7:51pm
- Hollyfield
  
  Regarding your comment about the upwards trend of people receiving a first shot:
  1. Monday is the deadline for police officers and defence force to have their first shot.
  2. Northland people sick of being the only area in red? (which resulted in a music festival being cancelled)
  3. People in the rest of NZ who didn’t get vaccinated when their city had no cases, but are now worried about their city having 1 case of covid?
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:11am
Cassandra

Sir han Sirhab has spent 50 years in prison for the murder of Bobby Kennedy. 50 years. He’s now 77. The Democrat governor of California has rejected the recommendation of the state parole board and decided to keep in jail. So much for lefties being compassionate. If SS had shot anyone but a Kennedy he’d have been released years ago.
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January 15, 2022 9:20am
- doggone7
  
  And if someone had shot Joe Biden in August 2020 by November that year they’d have been pardoned. Is that how it works?
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:33am
  - Man Among the Ruins
    
    He was always pretty safe locked away in his basement.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:41pm
- David Garrett
  
  The fact that you have misspelled every part of his name suggests you haven’t bothered to read Gov. Newsom’s piece on why he vetoed the Parole Board decision to release Sirhan Sirhan. I suggest you do.
  
  But on one point at least I can agree: at least in theory it shouldn’t matter if the victim is a politician from a prominent family or a guy who owns a liquor store.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:43am
  - PeeJay
    
    You tweaked my interest so just read the decision. Would seem to me that for one to be considered suitable for parole, one would need to acknowledge the crime committed, show regret for the crime and show that one has developed the ability to move on an no longer represent a threat to society. In all three areas, looks pretty clear to me that Sirhan does not meet the threshold – seems to be significant evidence in his past statements that he doesn’t even acknowledge the crime.
    
    There is obviously the concern that would a democrat have been so concerned but for this being the RFK murderer. I’d like to think that this decision would have been taken regardless of the who.
    
    I’d say though, the bigger issue is the fact the parole was granted in the first place rather than Gov. Newsom’s decision to overturn it. It’s at times like this where I do think the american system of democracy does have some merit.
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:14am
    - blue collar
      
      Manchuria candidate , mk ultra … his mind has been cooked
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:58am
    - David Garrett
      
      PJ: You have identified the three pre-conditions for parole (the same apply here): acceptance of the crime, remorse for it, and good evidence that one is no longer a threat to society. As you say, having been all over the shop, Sirhan’s latest position appears to be that he is innocent – or is it still that he can’t remember?
      
      As an aside, one thing about Scott Watson has always intrigued me: he still maintains that he didn’t murder Smart and Hope which is why he is not up for parole, despite having been inside for much longer than his minimum NPP. I believe he is guilty as sin, but that still puzzles me.
      
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      January 15, 2022 11:05am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        Opinions vary as to Scott Watson’s guilt or innocence, but the propensity of some investigators to hone in on one suspect and theory at the expense of all others has always puzzled me.
        
        I do know the Barrister that is handling the latest appeal, as he is an ex colleague and neighbour who has always struck me as a straight shooter. Given the 2 prisoners who have testified that Watson admitted the crimes while in prison have both been discounted, the police were not following sightings of a Ketch that were reported, there is enough doubt to revisit the case.
        
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        January 15, 2022 12:35pm
- Cassandra
  
  Just to correct the typing: his name is Sirhan Sirhan.
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:32am
- KevO'Brien
  
  How time flies. I heard the shooting live at the Convention Centre by shortwave radio in Samoa.
  
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  January 15, 2022 3:16pm
Maggie Pie

I’ve just blocked that guy ‘Clint Smith’ on Twitter.
It feels very liberating to unfollow deadbeats that I should never have followed to begin with.
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January 15, 2022 9:26am
- David Garrett
  
  You seem to be of above average intelligence…albeit with a peculiar sense of humour. Why on earth would you inhabit the banal and utterly superficial world of Twitter in the first place?
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:45am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It what tennis ? girls do ?
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:50am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Same reason I inhabit here.
    I love it when people talk dirty to me.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:56am
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      Erm…..mud?
      
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      January 15, 2022 10:50am
  - MCōs
    
    You find out interesting stuff on Twitter
    https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/1482077216821366789?s=12
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:05am
  - kevn
    
    @DG… Maggie is a great Twitter filter. Saves one being on it. Just follow her links. Generally fun.
    Thanks Mags.
    
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    January 15, 2022 10:25am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Ardern’s (ex, but only officially, he has kept up same output with some other source of funding) chief propagandist? He doesn’t anything of value to the world.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:15am
Maggy Wassilieff

Will our Dear PM continue her push for “Foundational Change” this year and consolidate her Ethno-nationalism gains?

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/protecting-our-precious-democracy-professors-tutor-pm-on-governance-and-how-treaty-partnership-has-been-misinterpreted/
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January 15, 2022 9:31am
- Ruahine
  
  This is one of the best summaries of the appalling deceits that the Labour Gov’t is presently trying to trick New Zealanders of all generations with their underhand and bullying tactics. The complicity around all of this with the subsidised MSM is something I have never seen before in our country.
  
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  January 15, 2022 9:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I agree, it is an excellent article.
    
    Gosh, when even Dame Anne Salmond is pointing out the dangers in accepting our current version of a Treaty Partnership, then you know this ethno-nationalism putsch is practically a fait accompli.
    
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    January 15, 2022 11:08am
I remember when

Inside EVs:
Tesla Model 3 and Y HVAC Systems under Investigation in Canada.
The main concern is reduced visibility due to the EV’s inability to defog or defrost the windshield.
Tesla Model Y and Model 3 owners in Canada are having issues with their cars’ heat pumps.
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January 15, 2022 9:43am
- MCōs
  
  Bugger
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:06am
- kevn
  
  @I rem…. All while (not) saving the planet.
  Good luck with any recalls Tesla owner folks.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:23am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s a really tricky and innovative heat pump system as normally you can’t get heat pumps to heat in -30°C, they have an exotic secondary process to make it possible – which appears to be giving them some problems
  
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  January 15, 2022 3:01pm
westernScientest

A while ago I posted about why I think Turkey is a good country to look at to see where NZ was heading from an economics point of view. Well Turkey has been engaging in foreign exchange manipulation to prop up the Lira, basically they ran out of foreign exchange reserves, and now have started ruining their exporters by forcing them to give the government 25% of their foreign reserves (in exchange for printed lira).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/turkey-orders-exporters-to-convert-25-of-income-to-liras

This is on top of the savings scheme which they announced late last year where they effectively guarantied they would print money to make sure savers didnt loose out. Basically they guarantied a floating rate tied to inflation to try and say that savers wouldn’t loose purchasing power, the only way this can be maintained is by printing more lira, which will cause more inflation and a further fall in the lira. Which means they need more foreign exchange prop up the lira, it is all going to come to hyperinflation and end up in a very sad state.

Leftists take note, this is what Leftist economic policies lead to. They have an inflation rate over 30%, the country is falling apart, and it is where NZ is going if we dont stop the government market interference, spending and printing of money.
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January 15, 2022 9:45am
- ds
  
  Ignoring the fact New Zealand and Turkey are on opposite ends of the credit rating scale. AA+ compared to BB-.
  Obviously the rating agencies don’t know what they are talking about.
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:50am
  - westernScientest
    
    bit of a straw man there, like saying our economy is good because GDP growth is positive.
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:17pm
  - westernScientest
    
    It is also of not that in the 70s when the UK had to borrow money from the IMF they had a AAA rating
    
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    January 15, 2022 9:34pm
I remember when

The smaller talent pool as a result of the borders is also putting pressure on hirers.
Job advertising was at record levels in 2021, and the same dynamics were at play this year.
In the first 10 days of 2022 there were 60% more jobs posted on the site (Seek) than during the equivalent period in 2021.
In December, job ads were up a third on December 2019,.
At the same time applications were down 39 per cent.
The average hourly earnings last year, according to Stats NZ, were $35,25 or $73, 320 a year.
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January 15, 2022 10:00am
Maggie Pie

Why do people say… “grow some balls?”
Balls are weak and sensitive!
If you really wanna get tough, grow a vagina.
Those things take a pounding!

– the late Betty White
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January 15, 2022 10:05am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Maggie as a counter to that I recall the question of which is worse, giving birth or a kick in the nuts.
  
  Something that was often debated among the boys and girls back in the day but put to bed quite simply.
  When a woman has had a baby, it’s not uncommon a couple of years later for her and partner to decide “we should have another”. There is no recorded case in history of a man saying, “It’s been 2 years, I’d love another kick in the nuts.”
  
  There endeth the story…….!
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:50am
- kowtow
  
  Bull
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:50am
Tony Stuart

Matthew Hooton has taken a post he wrote this week out from behind his Patreon paywall. It’s well worth a read, and let’s just say that the Prime Minister and her Government aren’t exactly given rave reviews for their Omicron preparedness.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ardern-is-again-60917598

Don’t say you weren’t warned PM, and with the global demand for RAT kits far outstripping supply, I don’t think we can expect the 20 million ordered this week to beat Omicron into the community.
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January 15, 2022 10:11am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Everybody is going to get covid. The good new is it is less deadly than flu.
  
  “The UK are past their Omicron peak; it happened very quickly. Hospitalisations are levelling off, and a mortality plateau will follow, probably in the next week. Because Omicron causes such minor illness in so many people, official case rates will substantially underestimate its prevalence, much more than was the case for prior strains. Omicron, in other words, is even less deadly than it looks.”
  
  https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/ukhsa-vaccine-efficacy-statistics-532
  
  The bad news is Ardern’s response to the whole sorry saga has been moronic from the minute “elimination” Baker was allowed to open his trap.
  The country has lurched from idiotic policy to idiotic policy.
  Brenda thought she was going to be the “Messiah” and first to eliminate the plague. She’s not the messiah, she’s a very naughty politician who still thinks she is the messiah and should be worshipped and obeyed by all. She is a disaster more interested in her image than the health or economy of NZ.
  
  As for Hooten, he makes some good points but a lot of the article is hysterical nonsense. Especially screaming about jabbing kids and testing, testing, testing. All that will do is provide more fear porn for Brenda to get the green light to do whatever she wants, it’s going to be a casedemic.
  
  Everyone is going to get omicron. The vast majority will be fine. Anyone at risk can and should isolate, but at some point, everyone will get it. The jabs don’t work, they increase your chance of catching omicron. The longer you hide under the bed, like with every problem in life, the worse the problem is likely to be.
  England has taken the tough decision. It looks like they made the right decision. They are refusing to panic and now the numbers are showing that case numbers are rapidly declining and that there was no huge increase in deaths or hospitalisations.
  
  This nightmare scenario has to be stopped. This collective insanity has to end. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop pissing their pants every time they open the paper or watch TV. Better still, dump both and get on with your life. Something is going to kill you sooner or later. Up to you to decide what level of risk you’re prepared to take.
  There is NOTHING stopping everyone who is terrified of covid staying home forever. Fill your boots. There’ll be more room at the beach for those daredevils prepared to risk life and limb exposing themselves to a respiratory illness.
  
  But this complete lunacy needs to end one way or another.
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:17am
  - Inthe09
    
    How long till they roll out the ‘flatten the curve’ line again once it gets going here?
    
    Localised lockdowns? As if that would work.
    
    Cutting off Auckland again? Sure, if you want to keep tanking your support
    
    Telling people to self-isolate for days/weeks? What’s the compliance rate there, 50%?
    
    Do the Government realise most of us have family/friends overseas who’ve told us first hand this thing is a dud and to get on with life?
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:02pm
  - mawm
    
    It won’t because it’s the first act.
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:37pm
The Boss

Lies, lies and more lies. Good article by Cam Slater.

https://thebfd.co.nz/2022/01/15/vax-passes-are-working-well-arent-they/?utm_source=envelope&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=SocialSnap
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January 15, 2022 10:22am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

‘Cindy to resign as PM on January 22nd! Is this true?”

The ‘replies’ are an absolute hoot 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/pumkinbum/status/1482057632647364609
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January 15, 2022 10:38am
- Bobba Fret
  
  It will just be wishful thinking by all of us.
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Socialists never relinquish their control without a fight. History shows this
  
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  January 15, 2022 3:00pm
  - doggone7
    
    Trump, the Great Socialist.
    
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    January 15, 2022 4:38pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      TDS
      
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      January 15, 2022 5:13pm
I remember when

If the world’s population is 7.9 billion, and we use Worldometer’s covid death totals to date –

then .07% of the population of the world have died from covid or .035% per year to date.
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January 15, 2022 10:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh gosh,…..a 99.93% chance of surviving (or not experiencing covid-19) over the last 2 years…
  
  or a 99.965% chance of surviving/missing covid-19/ year.
  
  Those vaccines must be pretty damn good, eh?
  
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  January 15, 2022 10:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder if folks from Newshub read Kiwiblog to get some pointers…

Suddenly we get furnished with some information about Sroubek

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/01/convicted-drug-smuggler-karel-roubek-still-waiting-for-appeal-against-deportation-to-be-heard.html

Strange that the newshounds hadn’t informed us back in July that Sroubek had entered into limbo land, once again.

and on 9 July 2021, the Tribunal granted Mr Šroubek’s application for an adjournment of the hearing.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/01/convicted-drug-smuggler-karel-roubek-still-waiting-for-appeal-against-deportation-to-be-heard.html
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January 15, 2022 10:48am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Isn’t Sroubek a friend of the PM?
  
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  January 15, 2022 3:28pm
Fletch

Media are pushing the story that 2021 was the 6th hottest on record. Tony Heller quickly dispels that myth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3AEm6t6lGk

As he says, 2021 finished with Arctic sea ice extent the highest in 18 years. And Antacrica had it’s 6 coldest months on record, with their coldest January since 1978. Alaska had their coldest Autumn in decades. Northern Europe had record cold during the Autumn of 2021. Russian ships got trapped in early forming sea ice.

It looks like it was much warmer in the 1930s during the infamous “dust bowl” depression.

But they have to come out and tell us that every year was hotter. It’s tradition, you know. They know if they tell us NOW while it’s Summer here and hot, that we’ll believe it.
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January 15, 2022 11:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And nearby Australia had its coolest year since 2012.
  
  In Victoria, it was the coolest year since 2004.
  
  In fact 2021 was only the 17Th hottest in Australia since 1910.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/03/la-nina-weather-pattern-keeps-temperatures-in-australia-down-but-2021-still-hotter-than-average
  
  Strange how little NZ’s temperature stands out differently from other places….
  
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  January 15, 2022 12:54pm
  - Fletch
    
    As Heller points out in another video today, Australia had higher record-breaking temperatures in the late 1800s and early 1900s, according to a report by the Australian Bureau of Meteorology in 1995. This has since been disappeared down the memory-hole by authorities, but he still has a scan of it.
    
    https://youtu.be/fsy0ysTDRRc?t=162
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:11pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLDDxpp6SJc

Beating the Conservatives: Could Tactical Voting Work? – TLDR News.

With a formal Progressive Alliance seemingly unlikely to come to fruition, is there another option for the progressive-wing of the electorate to oust the Conservatives? In this video, we take a look at the idea of ‘Tactical Voting’, how it’s impacted recent parliamentary by-elections and whether it’s a feasible strategy for a general election. [9:06. I guess the Peoples Front of Judea will stand aside for the Judean Peoples Front.]
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January 15, 2022 11:21am
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/H6MZTDYbM2o/

SCOTUS and Sinema Deal Death Blow to Biden!

SCOTUS and Sinema have delivered a one-two death blow to Joe Biden! In this video, we’re going to see take a look at the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down Biden’s OSHA mandates, we’re going to see how Kyrsten Sinema has crushed the Democrats hopes of taking over our elections, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal what these twin death blows really mean for Biden and the Democrats.
[11:17. A bad day for Brandon is a good day for America.]
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January 15, 2022 11:22am
- Fletch
  
  The bad thing is that they lost on the other Supreme Court decision, voting to keep the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) vaccine mandate on healthcare workers.
  
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  January 15, 2022 12:42pm
  - curry4me
    
    Fletch: Yes, one out of 2. They got the main point right. And now Sinema has said no to Brandon’s filibuster pleas.
    
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    January 15, 2022 5:57pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IJlK8KAL68

NPC University Season 4 Episode 9.

NPCU wants a new Teaching Assistant. However, the interview process doesn’t go smoothly. [2:04]
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January 15, 2022 11:22am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Covid vax.
Patient, “Does it provide immunity?”
Doctor, “Only for the manufacturer”
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January 15, 2022 11:23am
- Maggie Pie
  
  And the one thing you can be sure of Steve, the same people that made hundreds of billions of dollars from Covid WILL want to do it again.
  
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  January 15, 2022 11:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Just like socialism. Can’t keep their hands out of other people’s wallets
    
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    January 15, 2022 12:02pm
- cjn
  
  To this question my doctor said “no” but that it would enable me to go to cafes and restaurants. “You’re a funny kind of doctor,” I said quoting Mrs Wilberforce’s response to Bertie Wooster who had refused to look at the end of her spine. Being Chinese I suppose he was not a fan of Wodehouse.
  
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  January 15, 2022 8:08pm
Jack5

Is the Reserve Bank in some sort of crisis?

The sudden departure of deputy governor Geoff Bascand following earlier departures of key staff raises that question.

Michael Reddell, at his blog, Croakingcassandra, looks at the Reserve Bank mess.

https://croakingcassandra.com/2022/01/14/a-sad-ending/
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January 15, 2022 12:02pm
- Jack5
  
  Meanwhile, Biden is remaking America’s central bank, the Federal Reserve.
  
  If the Senate confirms his nominees the seven-person Federal Reserve board of governors will include four women and two Black Americans.
  
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  January 15, 2022 12:12pm
  - PeeJay
    
    I always find the democrat v republican contest amusing. I mean these nominations should be based on merit and have nothing to do with sex or race or politics. Sadly, it seems for the democrats it’s always about sex or race, and for the republicans it’s claimed to be on merit but usually results in a typical white male wall street stereotype with deep links to the republicans and finance. And for both it is always, always about politics.
    
    There is a lot I admire about American democracy but the increasing partisanship (often accompanied by ridiculous levels of hypocrisy) is a growing stain on that country. Still a lot to admire though.
    
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    January 15, 2022 1:22pm
  - Paulus
    
    I believe that from the US Census Black Americans represent the same % of the population as Maori here – 16%
    
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    January 15, 2022 2:29pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    All good, as long as one of them is Thomas Sowell 😉
    
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    January 15, 2022 4:16pm
    - mawm
      
      And Justice Thomas.
      
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      January 15, 2022 8:27pm
ClanMcleod

On a positive note, cannabis extract reduces covid spread.

“The rapid spread of COVID-19 underscores the need for new treatments. Here we report that cannabidiol (CBD), a compound produced by the cannabis plant, inhibits SARS-CoV-2 infection.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/
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January 15, 2022 12:46pm
Fletch

Phone TXTs between the members of the Oath Keepers, proves that Trump had nothing to do with them on January 6th.

As President Donald Trump was finishing his speech near the White House, [Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes], according to prosecutors, wrote to the group at 1:38 p.m.: “All I see Trump doing is complaining. I see no intent by him to do anything. So the patriots are taking it into their own hands. They’ve had enough.”

So, yeh, Trump had nothing to do with them. And there were only 9 of them. How they were going to take over the Capitol building unarmed is interesting… ?
Not a single person has been charged with attempting to overthrow the government.
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January 15, 2022 12:52pm
- MCōs
  
  Keep beating that drum, Fletch.
  
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  January 15, 2022 1:20pm
Fletch

Shocking – thieves are raiding trains for postal packages, Amazon, USPS, etc.

https://twitter.com/johnschreiber/status/1481770722271760384
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January 15, 2022 1:02pm
- MCōs
  
  The train company provides their own ‘police’.
  Doing a pretty shit job, one would say.
  The area shown in the clips was cleaned up a month ago.
  Maybe that’s the cheaper option.
  
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  January 15, 2022 7:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This will happen tomorrow NZ time. https://nz.yahoo.com/news/fake-electoral-documents-under-new-scrutiny-as-trump-prepares-for-arizona-visit-180154595.html
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January 15, 2022 1:27pm
I remember when

Some of our airmailed Christmas Cards have just arrived at their destination in the UK.
They are moldy, stained and the writing inside is not readable.
Posted late November.
At least the rellies Christmas Card, posted in Tauranga on the 24 December arrived in our letterbox on the 11 January –
and it wasn’t even airmail.
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January 15, 2022 1:49pm
- lifesgood
  
  Michael Cullen’s legacy.
  
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  January 15, 2022 2:38pm
- Biscuit
  
  What are these ‘Christmas cards’ of which you speak, I remember when?
  
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  January 15, 2022 3:30pm
- MCōs
  
  Typically I get a letter of some consequence once a fortnight I suppose.
  Back in the good old days stuff arrived constantly and the system was geared to suit.
  My sister in Ashburton gave a Christmas card to the pony express down there on 7-Dec and it was delivered while I was visiting her a month later.
  
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  January 15, 2022 7:42pm
Ra Henare

The gummint continues its cluster fuck over MIQ.

Remember the 24th November steps to opening
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We are making this announcement today to give families, businesses, visitors and airline and airport companies certainty and time to prepare. It’s very encouraging that as a country we are now in a position to move towards greater normality.
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Yea right. Then cancelled that certainty a month later…

Today they announce another farce. Which ignores a large number of Kiwis NOT in Australia.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/covid-19/covid-19-coronavirus-miq-lifeline-for-kiwi-travellers-in-australia-blind-sided-by-border-opening-backflip/
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January 15, 2022 1:52pm
Tasman devil

MIQ equals Missing In Quality.
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January 15, 2022 1:53pm
Reid

So this is interesting. A life insurance company in France has declined to payout a death acknowledged to have been caused by the vax, and a court has affirmed its decline is valid.

The company argued that the policy holder engaged in a medical experiment, which was excluded in the policy.

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/14/life-insurer-refuses-to-cover-vaccine-death/
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January 15, 2022 2:48pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Insurance coy considered it to be a voluntary act, hence suicide. That could well be applied here.
  There is no redress either as Pfizer and mob are well lawyered up to avoid any responsibility. the govt would also likely deny responsibility too. “You were informed…”
  
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  January 15, 2022 3:40pm
Maggie Pie

‘MAROKOPA MAN’

The Missing Link?
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January 15, 2022 3:05pm
Reid

Dr Malone talks about his vaccine injury.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/how-bad-is-my-batch?r=ehoi1
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January 15, 2022 3:26pm
ClanMcleod

So who remembers when the narrative was – “save granny! protect others! protect the kids!”

– thus, it is your social duty to do this and our duty to make you by excluding you from society if you will not. and so began a campaign of vilification and othering the likes of which has not been seen since the 1930’s and 40’s in europe or in the stalinist or maoist revolutions.

Except none of this was true. The jabs are non-sterilizing, don’t stop infection, carriage, or transmission. They don’t reduce viral load. The government is lying when they say you are 20 times more likely to spread the virus if unjabbed.
In fact, all data emerging from highly jabbed countries is showing the reverse, the jabbed are getting more covid per capita than the unjabbed.

So the narrative got changed to – get jabbed to “protect the hospitals!”

“this argument is a clear loser as one could make a far more persuasive argument along the same lines about, say, obesity, which probably drives ~50% of health system costs in one way or another, clogging hospitals and arteries alike. so, unless one is going to also accede to mandatory diet and fitness plans as a social duty, they really lack a leg to stand on.”

Is it true? “well it seems to have once been true, at least on an individual level, but that can get tricky.

if you have a vaccine that reduces your risk of death from covid by 50%, that sounds like a big deal. but it might not be. if your risk was only 1 in 10,000 to begin with, who cares? the risk reduction is not worth the side effects.

but what if your initial risk was high? is it then a good idea? well, it depends.

if the vaccines also doubles your risk of getting covid, then no. 2X risk X 50% risk reduction puts you right back where you started and you experienced the side effects and risks of vaccination for no gain. and wow do they keep ignoring that one.”

Full article here. Anyone who has the skills to challenge the conclusions please do so.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/vaccine-efficacy-and-social-duty
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January 15, 2022 3:41pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Wait a little while longer. The truth about the real effects of the vaccinations is being slowly revealed.
  They are likely to be proven to be much more dangerous from their long term troubles. Women’s health and fertility are at risk too.
  
  I’m not giving more at this stage. There is too much to confront. Consensus seems emerging that if you have had one or two jabs don’t get more.
  
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  January 15, 2022 6:37pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is a new take on Alice in Wonderland. Alice followed the white rabbit down the tunnel and found herself in a very strange place where there was a fancy dress party in progress and lots of noise.
She asked the rabbit the name of this strange place. “Aotearoa”, he replied.
“I have never heard of that,” she said to him. “Some man came up with the name to assist in giving Maori a history.”
Just then a man started to stamp his feet and roll his eyes and poked out his tongue shouting and waving a stick. “I think he is having an epileptic fit,” said Alice.
“That is the Mad Hatter”, replied the rabbit, “he always behaves like that if he can’t get his own way.”
“Golly,” said Alice, “I would be sent to my room for behaving like that.”
“Who is that lady with the big smile handing out all those piles of money?”
“That is the Queen of Hearts, she will give you some too, if you ask.”
“Golly,” Alice said again. “won’t she run out if that’s the case?”
“No, she will print more.” The rabbit replied.
“I keep seeing a smiling cat which disappears just when I want to see it better.” “That is the ghost of Winston, enjoying the chaos he caused.”
“Who is the woman in the feather cloak, my friend Greta would be so upset to see how many birds were killed to make that.”
“Shhh,” said the rabbit, “she likes to think she is a conservationist! Don’t say anything Alice or you will be punished for hate speech.”
“What?” exclaimed Alice “for speaking the truth?
“And I can’t say anything because I am a white rabbit, and will be accused of racism.”
“I have never heard such nonsense,” replied Alice, “colour makes life interesting and attractive, it is bad behaviour which is intolerable.”
“It is because of perceived past wrongs,” mumbled the rabbit.
“More nonsense,” said Alice, “what is past is just that, past! Not a thing you can do to change it. Just get on with things. I don’t like Aotearoa, Rabbit, I want to go back to New Zealand, where everyone was happy before I heard of all this sick thinking.”
“I will come with you Alice, I don’t see why I should apologise for being white anymore.”
“Quite right,” said Alice, “that mad queen will run out of money soon, then Aotearoa will become Blunderland!”
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January 15, 2022 4:06pm
CAKE FACE1

When the pandemic ends, and people start looking at all the other government policies, I expect Cindy’s poll ratings to collapse.

Omicron can’t come soon enough for me…
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January 15, 2022 4:21pm
Reid

Dr Malone talks mass-formation.

He provides links to the science behind it as well as outlines the broad applications of it in our world today. Anyone interested in the science of mass formation should read this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/malone-mass-formation-deployed-you-after-over-200-years-study
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