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CJames

In their rush to get their vaccine to market, it looks like Pfizer did trials that had serious flaws, compromising both data integrity and patient safety. And the company fired whistleblowers, not the actions of an organisation with nothing to hide. The trials definitely should have not passed peer review. Which calls into question the validity of all the medical authorities’ permissions to use the vaccine. They definitely did not follow the protocols as they should have picked up these faults.
There are probably no significant issues with the vaccine, other than its lack of long term effectiveness, but those who parrot “follow the science” will be left with egg on their faces. But then, this is only the British Medical Journal reporting the problem. No doubt it will be dismissed as just a crank anti-vax site.
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635
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November 3, 2021 8:00am
- dcrane
  
  Thanks for the link. Btw cardiovascular side-effects, sometimes lethal, are pretty well-documented for some of these vaccines. Not enough to cancel their utility for the covid-vulnerable, but enough to raise serious questions for those who would mass-vaccinate the young.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:09am
- krazykiwi
  
  Pfizer has the dubious honour of being the recipient of the worlds largest pharma fine – $2.3b in 2009 for kickbacks on Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, and Lyrica.
  
  There’s more truth in the assurances of a Nigerian prince than there are in the declarations of “safe and effective” from Pfizer.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:16am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Speaking of Nigerian Princes’s KK, I still haven’t received the gold bullion I won in your lottery.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:01am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      You didn’t send your bank account details, silly.
      
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      November 3, 2021 6:36pm
  - oldfella
    
    KK, this story is not specifically about Covid, but…
    Exposed: The plague of fake medical trials putting lives in danger as experts reveal a FIFTH of studies published each year could contain invented or plagiarised results
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10147503/Exposed-plague-fake-medical-trials-putting-lives-danger.html
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:37am
    - surfing
      
      Yes, but it might as well be about covid.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:22pm
- emmess
  
  I expect we will see this on tonight on
  One News (brought to you Pfizer)
  or Newshub (brought to you Pfizer)
  
  Or read it in the NZ Herald (brought to you Pfizer)
  or on Stuff (brought to you Pfizer)
  
  Or hear it on RNZ (brought to you Pfizer)
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlL5_kKyLA0
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:28am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  “it looks like Pfizer did trials that had serious flaws.” Wrong, if you read your own link. And no the BMJ is not a crank anti-vax site that is why they correctly posted the facts that you misinterpreted in your blind excitement.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:56am
  - CJames
    
    Don’t be stupid Brian. The trial had serious flaws as they were not double blind and were not done to the protocols. That is what the article said. In normal drug trials, the issues reported here would have totally invalidated the data from the trial. How about you read up on what double blind actually means before commenting?
    And just read what I wrote in the last two sentences. I was being sarcastic as that is how any scientific reports that go against consensus are classified.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:08am
  - dcrane
    
    “But, for researchers who were testing Pfizer’s vaccine at several sites in Texas during that autumn, speed may have come at the cost of data integrity and patient safety. A regional director who was employed at the research organisation Ventavia Research Group has told The BMJ that the company falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in Pfizer’s pivotal phase III trial. Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding. After repeatedly notifying Ventavia of these problems, the regional director, Brook Jackson, emailed a complaint to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Ventavia fired her later the same day. Jackson has provided The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails.”
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:10am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      I can only presume the two down ticks are from people upset that the lady with a conscience and some moral fibre was fired from her job. The only alternative is petty spite because Ardern’s narrative is disintegrating like Weetbix in hot milk.
      
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      November 3, 2021 10:50am
  - mawm
    
    There are many more flaws with the Pfizer trial than noted in the BMJ.
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:05pm
- Greg Ettridge
  
  [this is willful misinterpretation of data. Do not spread this misinformation on KB. Repeated attempts will receive a week suspension. Deleted by Mod]
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:48am
- Simon
  
  [deleted for vaccine misinformation – Mod]
  
  Thats where its at.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:22am
- bennerg
  
  A google search in the NEWS category shows no mainstream media reporting on this.
  
  Do we need to ask why?
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:47am
Don Beckett

My wife is about to be subject to innuendo.
She is going to have a colonoscopy. 😉
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November 3, 2021 8:01am
- Biscuit
  
  Reminds me of the old joke, Don:
  
  I finally found the piece of Lego I thought I’d lost years ago…
  
  That colonoscopy was money well spent!
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:18am
- bythesea
  
  if it was going to be a lobotomy, i bet she would give them a piece of her mind…
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:11am
  - mcdonald.g
    
    I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:32am
- Dr John
  
  Mrs B needs to read this [so does everyone else] before she has her colonoscopy
  https://bussorah.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/dave-barrys-colonoscopy/
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:11am
  - JB.49
    
    Classic
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:45am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Very good Dr. John. It took me much longer to read than it should have because I was laughing so much.:lol:
    Do I have the courage to get wife sweet wife to read this?
    That question I will have to ponder – it happens next Tuesday, so I will leave it till Monday. 😆
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:29am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Billy Connelly has a pretty good YouTube thing too ..
      
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      November 3, 2021 7:06pm
I remember when

2030:
An all electric vehicle fleet and dairy herd reduced to 4,200,000 cows.
Job done.
Well done Aotearoa.
How is New Zealand doing?
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November 3, 2021 8:03am
- G152
  
  We’ve been milked
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:28am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  What -fewer cows than people? Guess we’ll be going hungry after exports taken into account.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:30am
  - pdm
    
    Amazing the number of idiots on facebook wanting New Zealand to use all the food we produce within New Zealand to feed the downtrodden. No need for farmers etc to make any money.
    
    No exports allowed – idiots.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:44am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Speaking of the downtrodden I asked the beggar outside Countdown yesterday if he knew where the WINZ office is. He said he did so I don’t know why he’s sitting on his arse on a cold pavement.
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:09am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Additional funding – probably quite lucrative – IRD will be sending a wealth disclosure request shortly.
        
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        November 3, 2021 9:34am
    - surfing
      
      Worked well in Zimbabwe.
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:57am
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Lol pdm – not only the downtrodden. Used to the laugh at the local business owners moaning about having to pay the same price for their dairy products when they were produced just down the road. They would shut up once asked who was generating the overseas funds needed for them to buy the imports they then on sold to those same cow-cockies.
      
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      November 3, 2021 10:21am
    - Nickc2
      
      I’m informed that’s what’s being taught in schools these days.
      I certainly haven’t seen or heard any praise whatsoever in support of our Dairy Sector. Let’s face it, without them, we’d be in deep shit.
      How else would we pay for all that stuff we import?
      We can’t go on printing money forever!
      
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      November 3, 2021 10:31am
- RockyJ
  
  Hey, haven’t you noticed that the world is cooling? See, those international climate conferences are working.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:47am
  - pdm
    
    Rocky it sure has in Hastings this morning.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:37am
  - Ehlana
    
    It’s not cooling RockyJ. That’s a temporary fluctuation caused by the assembly of the largest hot air producers in Glasgow.
    Once they’ve been refueled with champagne and caviar they will be returned to their usual operating locations and you should experience hot air conditions again.
    We apologise for the inconvenience.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:09am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  At $8.40/kgMS, I can’t see many dairy farmers deciding to throw in the towel.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:51am
  - westernScientest
    
    There are a lot still trying to frantically pay down debt though and given the current political situation, I cant imagination the remainder are investing too much on infrastructure, whats the point if your not going to be aloud to farm in a couple years. Why invest in irrigation if it might get stolen, why do some planting if it might get stolen, why fence something if your just going to get told its slightly wrong and you have to pay to do it again.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:31am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    Were it demand pushing supply I’d be happy, but I suspect it’s yet another view of inflation breaching the surface on some products before others.
    
    But it’s coming for everything else, including farming costs.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:03am
  - Matt Long
    
    It sounds good doesn’t it, but with input costs, and compliance costs rising markedly at the same time, margins aren’t as good as you would think.
    It’s like saying petrol stations must be doing well because the price of fuel is up, it is a poor indication of profitability.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:08am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Just as well that the price of farms continues to double every 8 years or so …..
      
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      November 3, 2021 7:09pm
      - andydownhere
        
        Thats BS. Dairy farms were selling for $40/Kg of milksolids 10 years ago. You could still get one for that now
        
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        November 3, 2021 9:15pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    $9/kg for Lamb right now as well, almost double what it was last year. Wonder what winter Lamb will get next year.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:22am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I watched the pictures coming out of COP26 with both amusement and horror. A bunch of self important self centred up their arses wankers lecturing and hectoring the peasants to reduce their carbon print and by implication pay more taxes and costs to enrich government and these rich pricks.
  
  I have said it before and I will say it again when these aresholes get their carbon foot print to even a very large multiple of mine I might listen to them,
  Until then I will treat them witrh contempt and laugh at them. Now I know it wont matter in the greater scheme of things.
  But I am comforted that history will condemn them for what they are.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:30am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Well said.
    You should enjoy this then.
    Historian David Starkey on Greta Thunberg.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRjOwiPPGU4
    
    Definition of Millenarianism here
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:02am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      The Thunberg phenomenon is wholly astroturfed propagandising. She has no agency. She and her parents are paid handsomely to sell the anthropogenic climate change delusion to the younger generations, so that – even though they likely don’t realise this – they will give up any sort of quality of life for the sole benefit of those who pay Thunberg, the hypocrites who attend climate conferences.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:24pm
  - Spoff
    
    “It’s not about what they say it’s about, and it never has been.”
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/11/02/watch-its-not-about-what-they-say-its-about/
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:04am
  - The Feed
    
    While any of these clownfest tossers continue flying (!) to “climate” conferences, I shall be treating alleged climate doom as a non-issue.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:59am
  - mawm
    
    As usual the man not fit to be king is sprouting his nonsense. I’ll wait until he starts spreading significant amounts of his wealth and assets to the downtrodden in Africa.
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:17pm
  - Paulus
    
    Couldn’t find Ardern in the photo of the leaders of the 200 countries in Glasgow – even Macron has gone home, Biden hasn’t woken up yet.
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:04pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Cows will all have to be fitted with methane converters or else the farms turned into Gates bugfood suppliers.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:21am
- Jethrod
  
  What is the puzzling thing is that there is 7 other countries with greater herd sizes than NZ.
  Are they being threatened with decimation of there herds…… countries like US, UK, China, India, Russia, Germany and Brazil ?
  Perhaps they dont have f….ckwits like Jimmy controlling their negotiations.
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:51pm
plc

So well done to all of those that boxed the field for the trifecta in yesterday’s Melbourne Cup.

By my reckoning you LOST $13,500

There is an old adage in trading:

“If you don’t know who is the patsy in the market it is probably you”
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November 3, 2021 8:04am
- Over Taxed Worker
  
  Not quite as bad. Value lost for $1 boxed is (23x22x21) – $536 dividend = $10k lost.
  1 horse scratched and need to drop x by one each step as horse cannot place twice.
  Interesting point is TAB takes 25% of the pool on a trifecta as its cut no matter who wins!
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:52pm
artemisia

And in other news, Commerce Commission says supermarket prices are too high and is considering government interventions. In an online conference this week, the Commerce Commission heard views from the usual suspects on how the Government could, and even should, actively facilitate new competition in the country’s duopoly grocery sector.

Best intervention suggestion – Herald (paywalled) –

The last word in the forum didn’t go to New Zealand Initiative chief economist Eric Crampton but his puckish suggestion was among the most memorable.

“In considering ways to facilitate new competitors’ entry in the grocery market, Crampton said, the Government could simply resolve to dismantle the barriers to entry of its own making.” The Commission, he suggested, could then write to international grocers with the following invitation: “Hello international grocer, New Zealand might not have featured in any plans you might have had for international expansion. Small markets at the far end of the world beset by regulatory impossibilities that make it hard for new entrants to set up shop are not the most enticing proposition. We at the Commerce Commission are writing you today to ask you to reconsider New Zealand or that you think about us for the first time.

The letter would promise waiving the cumbersome Overseas Investment Office approval process for foreigners buying land purchases for grocery stores, and easing council zoning and consenting rules to allow for the speedy building of stores

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/is-there-a-direct-role-for-government-in-the-supermarket-sector/YCJK6HAUGUWMCNNRG3YOOPLGAY/
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November 3, 2021 8:04am
- thirteenstars
  
  And he’s right, of course.
  
  For every apparent foul-up or inefficiency in the market you first always look for the meddling hand of government. Always.
  
  It’s often hard to find the connection, but find it you usually will.
  
  National to blame as much as Labour.
  
  Two quotes from Reagan:
  
  “Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.”
  
  “Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:58am
- Taieri
  
  And in other news, Commerce Commission says supermarket prices are too high and is considering government interventions.
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  The Government of the Soviet Union used to impose such interventions. Very successfully as the prices in their supermarkets were consistently maintained at most affordable levels. An unexpected and unfortunate side effect was lack of stock on the said supermarkets shelves.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:27am
  - Nickc2
    
    Начиная с 29 ноября, все покупки колдовства должны осуществляться только в государственном супермаркете.
    
    For those of you who can still remember from before you were locked down in the Gulag, here is the English translation.
    
    As from the 29th of November, all gorcery purchases are only to be carried at the Government-owned supermarket.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:49am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Sigh. A mere 40 years ago ..
      
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      November 3, 2021 7:11pm
- NoFax
  
  Imagine if we reduce the regulations on all sectors to allow competition. Whenever the incumbent welcomes regulations it is a sure sign that it will block competition.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:08am
Warren

New Zealand starting down the barrel of a recession says Economist.
Informatics Economist Brad Olsen pauses, and seems to take a big breath before he utters the “r” word.
Economists hate being on the hook for predicting Recessions, a oft – repeated joke’s that Economists have predicted 9 of the last 5 recessions, so you can understand why he might be reluctant to repeat the mistake.
“Our model is currently showing that economic activity in the fourth quarter is looking 10% lower than normal” says Olsen.
” And that’s going to be a second decline in economic activity “.
A recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negitive growth, so yes: ” we are starting down the barrel of a technical recession”.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126862681/new-zealand-is-staring-down-the-barrel-of-a-recession
So what bullshit will follow with our Finance Minister Grant Robertson forever talking up the economy and telling the world how good he and his Labour Government are and have been for New Zealand.
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November 3, 2021 8:05am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Borrow and spend without production–>Muldoon or equivalent correction.
  Pooh Bah should be sued for incompetence. A ministerial title is not sufficient for the Office.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:26am
- Bobba Fret
  
  I would believe and listen to Brad Olsen any day over Grant Robertson.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:16am
- plc
  
  “But it’s only a technical recession”
  
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  November 3, 2021 1:11pm
graham

Does ANYBODY on the Auckland Council live in the real world?

Auckland Council is drawing up a radical plan to remove parking on many of the city’s roads to make way for more bus lanes and cycleways.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-council-drawing-up-radical-plan-to-remove-parking-on-roads-across-the-city/L4OLNDETKNNE22SRX6RGGJHTAI/

Tomorrow, councillors will consider a new parking strategy that means Aucklanders will no longer be able to rely on parking outside their homes.

The strategy is an attempt to cut the city’s greenhouse gas emissions by reducing the distance travelled by petrol and diesel cars and shifting towards more climate-friendly forms of transport.

Under a proposal going to the planning committee, Auckland Transport will be given the power to remove parking without any consultation with residents or Local Boards when it selects roads for new bus lanes, cycleways or makes other changes to the roading network. Nor will it have to provide alternative parking elsewhere.

To enforce the new rules and bigger fines, AT’s parking team could be bolstered by 25 per cent to 50 per cent.

These people are power-mad, and appear to answer to absolutely nobody.

“The allocation of road space will need to change over time. This means Aucklanders cannot rely on the public realm for longer-duration storage of vehicles. Land use should provide for its own longer-duration storage of vehicles,” said the report to the planning committee.

And how many existing apartment blocks do that?

Dominion Rd Association general manager Gary Holmes called the strategy radical, saying it showed the anti-car focus of Auckland Transport which wanted to remove parking on roads for cycle lanes without any thought about the effect on businesses.

Yup. How about sparing a thought for the poor businesses that will be impacted?

Honestly, I swear the morons that come up with these mad ideas are so cocooned within their own little idealistic worlds, and so power-hungry, that they give little if any thought to how anybody else has to live in the real world. And even sadder is that when they barge ahead and implement these ideas they nearly always manage to screw them up completely. The Richmond Road cycle lane through the Grey Lynn shops is truly awful, and on the odd occasion I’ve cycled that road I find it easier and safer to stay on the road.
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November 3, 2021 8:06am
- Southern Raider
  
  I’m not sure voting out the council will help as those operating companies like AT just do whatever they like anyway.
  
  Some of the roads in Auckland have had shocking repair work on them, yet AT doesnt focus on its core job and has become a Greta fanboy
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:37am
  - septic skeptic
    
    In response to their latest request for feedback I said I looked forward to the time when I will be able to elect a council committed to firing the lot of them.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:04am
- kowtow
  
  In Dunedin there’s only one councillor who lives in the real world. Interestingly despite the media constantly attcking him he was the most popular at the last election.
  
  ‘ Dunedin City councillors gave near universal backing for the concept of a rainbow pedestrian crossing in the city yesterday.
  At a meeting of the planning and environment committee, councillors voted 13 to one to approve inserting the concept into the centre city plan, Cr Lee Vandervis being the sole dissenting voice.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crossing-%E2%80%98pc-virtue-signalling%E2%80%99
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:53am
  - Leofric
    
    Why, in God’s name, does any city need a rainbow-coloured pedestrian crossing, paid for with ratepayers’ money?
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:07am
    - geoff3012
      
      To match the coloured circles painted on Main Street….
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:44am
    - Man Among the Ruins
      
      As the gay historian David Starkey observes, the thing that, previously, dare not speak its name can now never shut up.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:28pm
  - Paulus
    
    Well why not – Benson- Pope is a Dunedin Councillor.
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:08pm
- Nickc2
  
  Be aware, these people at Auck Transport (AT) breed among themselves. Ya can’t escape the bastards!
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:58am
- Cinematic
  
  Cycle lanes. Is there a more, on average, annoying user of our narrow roads than the cyclist? Particularly the lycra clad type.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:11am
  - curry4me
    
    Cinemtic: I’ve never had problems with cyclists while driving. However, there are far too many cycle lanes though. Both sides of Ilam Road as of the last three months.
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:39pm
- Taieri
  
  These people are power-mad
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  Power mad? Not at all. Just mad…
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:28am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  In Japan you cannot own a car until you can show the police that you have an off-street parking space for it.
  Years ago I had to pay 5,000 yen ($NZ63) a month for a space in an outdoor lot some 400 m from my apartment.
  Would similar laws be enacted in Auckland?
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:32am
  - Raphael
    
    Possibly. But at the same time Auckland Council, and the new housing intensification Labour and National announced, there is no longer a requirement for developers to provide any parking on new builds.
    So you going to have a bunch of new builds with no parking, and AT won’t allow parking on the street….
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:33am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      “… there is no longer a requirement for developers to provide any parking on new builds.”
      
      That is insane!
      
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      November 3, 2021 11:22am
  - Ehlana
    
    I’d be interested to know what the rules are about building car parking buildings in NZ. The Japanese I think have some innovative technological responses to the problem.
    
    And I’m sorry some people are outraged by all of this, but I think it is simple maths. We have more and more people in our cities; their presence does not make our streets wider.
    
    We will have to look for more efficient and effective ways to move around than every person needing to drive themselves everywhere, often alone in their car. Buses that run on time will be part of the answer – they just hold more people than a car can fit in the same amount of road space, even if the passengers are socially distanced. They also transport those too young, old or infirm to drive themselves – and those of us who do enough driving in the week and like to take a break from it at the weekend.
    
    Decent footpaths and, yes, the dreaded cycleways, also offer options for space-saving movement. They offer the possibility of children and teenagers moving themselves around locally, saving Mum and Dad a drive (and the petrol cost of it). They can actually also be used for local/last mile delivery, using electric cargo bicycles (possibly occupying some of those teens in useful after-school jobs).
    
    Movement is also a key to tackling problems like obesity and depression. Movement in the fresh air and sunshine provides a daily dose of free vitamin D at next to no risk of contracting any contagious disease.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:30am
    - mawm
      
      Let’s allow rentable electric scooters that clog up the sidewalks everywhere and then let the bullet-proof youth ride them at excessive speeds on said sidewalks. That’s bound to work! /s
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:28pm
- 7kiwi11
  
  Coupled with that, we are going to have more and intensification developments with no on site parking.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:33am
- NoFax
  
  I am in favour of road pricing and, therefore, if you want to pay to park your car on the road and it makes economic sense for you then I say go for it! No subsidies though.
  
  However, we have to acknowledge that the roads they will “mode shift” it is not economic to park cars. I wouldn’t get worked up about the carbon reduction – that’s just a greenwash.
  
  Rather, Auckland is no longer a big town but rather a small city. Being able to park outside the butcher on Queen Street is long gone (as has the butcher). Whether any of the above mentioned places makes sense to convert I can’t comment. But I do remember a similar uproar when it came to Onewa Road in Birkenhead/Northcote. However, it was the right decision to introduce a bus lane as before Covid far more people will travelling down Onwea in the bus than in a private car. Now, it will be an uproar to take out the bus lane.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:22am
  - Ian Boag
    
    A family member lived on Tarawera Tce in St Heliers. An ordinary suburban street in a good area. The cars/house ratio had run off the end of what was originally provided for. So this not-all-that-wide street had pretty much solid parked cars down both sides. The remainder was about one car wide, so getting up/down the street can be a bit interesting.
    
    Does anyone have a solution? Possibly there are other streets not all that different …
    
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    November 3, 2021 7:21pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  I hear of craziness in Wellington too in respect of the tunnel.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:30am
- Colinfrog
  
  AT don’t even bother policing people who park on bus stops. They have to be hhe most inept organisation in the country. Before doing anything else they need to sort out the farcical state of Auckland’s traffic lights
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:45am
- surfing
  
  Come to Tauranga, you can double or triple your rates, and get to take an hour to drive from Mt Maunganui to Greerton.
  
  NZTA are reluctant to invest in tauranga until we embrace bicycles….
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/how-dare-they-tauranga-mayor-lashes-out-at-nz-transport-agency-over-city-traffic-hold-ups/3AMR57BRCMVIDSH22O24L3SJRY/
  
  Now, our council are narrowing a main city arterial so more bikes and buses can fit.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-cameron-rd-revamp-calls-made-for-review-and-halt-to-upgrade/LA7WC4UPMSWINAUSISJRNJ3MPY/
  
  They’re also turning one of the busiest roads in the city into a cul-de-sac…
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/cul-de-sac-trial-in-mount-maunganuis-links-ave-from-november-15/MVKOP23EUGQVVZKQTCQHQW6TPY/
  
  The lycra brigade are winning the war!
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:38pm
Pongo

I watched Judith Collins on the AM show and I am sorry but it’s time for someone else.
She is so unfocused, it’s like she just found herself on TV and will answer whatever question is asked of her. No prep, no message ,nothing aside from a catch up with Ryan and a quick chat about things being a little rough for some and agreeing with the Northland lockdown.
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November 3, 2021 8:06am
- Reid
  
  Well, nothing important is happening right now, is it.
  
  You can’t expect her to invent something to talk about…
  
  /sarc
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:42am
- gorse
  
  I’ll take the flak, but I’m a Shane Reti man. Perfect leader in the current climate. A Doctor, busy vaccinating to help out. Can you imagine Ardern trying to counter his arguments about Covid? A leaders debate with him would be hilarious. He might even be able to pull in some female vote.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:04am
  - Pongo
    
    Sheesh, Reti is almost absent and has zero cut through and he is head to head with the dislikeable Little and the health system is ripe with targets. No passion, he seems uninterested.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:18am
    - Lance
      
      You’re taking the piss right?
      
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      November 3, 2021 11:42am
- thirteenstars
  
  Sure, but Collins is only a symptom, the disease is the bankruptcy of National. It has no better to offer than Labour. Across the board. COVID has simply exposed the hopelessness of government at dealing with large problems and making them worse. But that’s the Kiwi way. Always has been. Housing? Power prices? Hello?
  
  For the past year National’s attitude has been basically the same as the government’s with super-duper added go harder and faster, which is nuts since going harder and faster at dumb stuff just gets you more dumb stuff.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:10am
  - Pongo
    
    I disagree, Nationals Covid policy was excellent and well thought through and di we get a mention of it this morning ? No. Was it an opportunity to sell it ? Of course but Collins has zero sales ability, she has many other talents but selling the plan has been an utter failure.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:20am
    - Paulus
      
      Well soon it will al be revealed as Tova has her own Radio programme.
      Will be fun ! – as she will still be Jacinda’s close offsider in the Press Gallery.
      
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      November 3, 2021 2:12pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Wrong; O’Brien will be based in Auckland, and will cease to be part of the Press Gallery.
        
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        November 3, 2021 2:48pm
  - Man Among the Ruins
    
    It goes back far earlier than Collins. John Key had nearly nine years in power but, because he also didn’t believe in anything at all other than getting elected, he was just marking time until the Clark administration on steroids got back into power. What evidence is there that National was even in charge for nearly a decade? My abiding memory is of Key mincing about at a Big Gay Out. The problem is, none of them are in any way reactionary against the kind of politics espoused by Labour, but are simply less fanatical about it. Labour are taking liberalism directly to its logical conclusion, while the liberal National Party want to take the scenic route to its logical conclusion.
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:39pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      Scenic route. Nice.
      
      Yep, Key is held up as Mr Steady As She Goes but that’s the problem. All National have done for the past 25 years is steady the ship until Labour takes control of the wheel again.
      
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      November 3, 2021 5:17pm
    - andydownhere
      
      Transmission Gully. Otaki to Transmission Gully Expressway. Hamilton to Auckland Expressway, all got going by National and Steven Joyce. Would have all been cycleways under this Labour/Green ideological no car future
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:32pm
- lifesgood
  
  Be honest, you love Cindy. But all good, pick on Judith if it makes you feel good and vote for Labour again.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:10am
  - Pongo
    
    Not a fan of Ardern for starters. Have a look at the interview with Ryan Bridge and then have a look at how Key was interviewed by him.
    Key grabs the direction of the interview in an engaging manner and steers it to where he wants it to go and gets his points across. Bridge then follows along and after watching it you feel better informed and energised. Key has his homework done and is always ready to win, everyday and seizes every opportunity.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:15am
- peterwn
  
  I view this sort of post with deep suspicion. Some years back, I remember posts (during the dying days of Helen Clark’s government) along the lines of John Key being ‘OK’ but not quite up to it.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:11am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Judith would be a very able Prime Minster with skill and experience. She didn’t get to be President of the Auckland Law Society by being an incompetent wannbe commie chick friendly with lawnmower suppliers.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:34am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Judith has a stressful job although I was surprised to see her become tearful recently when there were no changes to the Auckland Covid settings, she was upset for small businessess. But no one can say she isn’t hanging in there and people do identify with a politician showing their human side. The contrast between how she handles stress compared to the PM is distinct.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:13am
  - NoFax
    
    I must say seeing that side of Judith did touch me. There are millions of stories of suffering from the Covid response that weren’t allowed to be heard before. If she stays focused on the suffering of the Covid response and the clear incompetence of this government then I think she has a shot of being PM.
    
    When National offer a real alternative then I do see people interested – but not just Labour done better. I think the country is ready to hear alternatives. For example, end MIQ for doubled vaccinated.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:29am
- Clownworld
  
  Collins went down in estimation long before the media attacked her. Promotion of Seymour the existential pragmatic “soundbite” conssumate politican by the left makes more sense now.
  
  Keep your friends close and enemies closer.
  
  There is no opposition to the collective media/political party.
  
  Opposition is meant to be a check on the government not fawning or parasitic pragmatists looking to carve a few votes out without upsetting the current govt or voters.
  
  NZ is a metaphorical abandoned island bereft of free choice.
  
  Witness the lack of political choice. The lack of vaccine choice. Govt forcing 3 waters, wage subsidies, media bribes etc etc. Paying more $ out for woke and waka causes, but causing division and less harmony.
  
  NZ is in a race to catch up to Venuzela?
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:34am
Maggie Pie

And that’ll teach Northland to piss Aunty off.
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November 3, 2021 8:06am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Yeah, but she’s bloody well coming to Whanganui today! I’m off to the shops soon to stock up on beer, wine and toilet paper, just in case we get locked down at 11.59pm tonight!
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:20am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Good thinking Tony – if you know what places she’s actually going to you can probably figure out the boundary in advance.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:27am
    - Ruawai
      
      Go and heckle her Tony!
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:42pm
  - pdm
    
    Why not join in the press conference and ask a couple of hard questions – repeatedly.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:46am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    Chance for you to get her autograph, Tony. No one has probably written more about her than you or so consistently.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:28am
  - doggone7
    
    Go along and yell out, “You have no authority over us to make laws over us and our territories.”
    
    You’ll get heaps of support from here.
    
    Asking about why the vaccination rates in South Africa are so low should be good for a laugh too. And lying about deaths from covid vaccinations in NZ seems to really add to one’s credibility.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:21am
- G152
  
  Well well well.
  
  Cindy ran away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  One just one dissenter got through the seried ranks of ‘protectors’ and confronted Cindy.
  His opinion may have been wrong but it was his opinion and Cindy should have handled it.
  But no she ran away.
  
  Add coward to communist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:30am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Remember when politicians could handle a heckler or two?
    Now what would Winston Peters or even Helen Clarke had made of yesterday’s interruption?
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:55am
    - burt
      
      It’s simply not fair on one of the worlds best communicators that a surprise question is asked in a press conference.
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:01am
    - Leofric
      
      Rob Muldoon…
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:08am
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Lol Leo, did you ever hear Muldoon get interrupted by a heckler? I did, a couple of times, he used to slaughter them verbally. Both times it was hilarious the way he humiliated the heckler. Just as Lange, Douglas, Clark of Labour used to be able to do. It’s just Ardern. She isn’t bright enough, nor does she have enough of a grasp of what is going on, to respond correctly. She can communicate when she knows the questions in advance, and isn’t challenged along the way. How many times have we heard “I reject the premise of your question”?
        
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        November 3, 2021 10:43am
    - Warren
      
      Remember the abuse Labour the Greens and Winston First gave John Key the then Prime Minister for National over the ponytail affair, did he run and hide like our present Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern no he just put with the abuse and carried on doing his job .
      Jacinda Ardern has made a rod for her own back and I would suggest given a excuse for more to attack her policy every time she has a press conference.
      
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      November 3, 2021 10:06am
      - Bobba Fret
        
        And Jacinda had time to go on one of the radio stations this morning (cant remember which one) but one of the soft ones that only ask questions like “How are the wedding plans going?” “How do you find the time to be a mum as well as handling all these big decisions?”
        Still doesn’t have time to front up to Mike Hosking……I guess she includes him as a heckler.
        
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        November 3, 2021 11:24am
      - ecco
        
        Ardern will be surrounded by union heavies and multiple police security when she sets foot back on Auckland soil.
        
        It will be all too late and the hypocrisy of going to Auckland this late will define her prime ministership for good. Something she won’t be able to shake no matter how many election bribes she tries to throw out in the coming 18 months. For Aucklanders at least.
        
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        November 3, 2021 11:35am
    - oldfella
      
      Maggy, imagine how Muldoon’s would have responded. Ooof!
      
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      November 3, 2021 11:02am
  - kowtow
    
    Seriously if she’s the world class , greadest most brilliantist communicador in the whole wide world , that we’re constantly told she is , and that she’s so on top of her portfolio as Prime Pusher and Fixer of all things bat Flu reladed ;
    
    why didn’t she roll up her sleeves and say ” you know what I’m here specifically to get people to get the jab , I relish this oppodunidy to engage with you nutters and to refudiate your nonsense , let’s duke it out”
    
    But no , she ran away , behind a screen of Coppers and compliant “journalists”.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:57am
  - Fletch
    
    “His opinion may have been wrong […]”
    
    May have been right, too.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:14am
    - Nickc2
      
      Right or wrong, who cares?
      Cindy’s dummy spit should be seen as the forerunner for what’s to come (shutting down free speech) when it doesn’t suit the Govt’s narrative.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:14pm
- Clownworld
  
  https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/priority/outside-of-controlled-environments-ardern-finds-conformity-lacking/?fbclid=IwAR3CqyLvdvkr4ZjGU8JjOcsftdFGlUNoWMhJHodrEPhnI1jCA9latw37oUo
  
  Shock horror those questions so unfair to ask that. How dare they?
  
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  November 3, 2021 1:11pm
kowtow

Anyone else see the irony in our getting a Kill Granny law coming into effect while the past 20 months ( and generations of debt) have been dedicated to extending the lives of people who were only going to live a few more months at the most.
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- NoFax
  
  I don’t think there is anyone trained yet to kill granny so the law isn’t in effect just yet. Apparently, if they are not trained correctly there could be a bad outcome such as granny living!
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:32am
- bronny1
  
  sadly i was talking to someone who works in aged care facilities this morning and interacts when she is in there with residents. Most don’t get to see friends and family and really would rather be dead.
  Apparently most of them have now exceeded the expected life of one entering a rest home, because that cold or stomach bug that would have killed them didn’t get in. And this is causing issues for rest home operators as places are not being freed up as frequently as historically indicated….
  Unintended consequences.
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:37pm
Reid

You know you’re living in an Orwellian reality when rather than address the question of the Israeli covid dataset showing the vax doesn’t work, your PM shuts down the presser and moves it indoors so only “accredited” journalists can be asking her the “right” questions.

It’s a bit like Biden, isn’t it. “I’ve been told I should be asking AP the first question…”

Are we getting truth about the most critical national security issue NZ has ever faced in its history,. or are we just being allowed to absorb the approved propaganda complete with allegations of misinformation attached to anything that doesn’t comport?

BTW, how can a covid dataset from a foreign country, esp a sophisticated Western ally like Israel, be “misinformation?” It can’t be, of course.

Which is why she never addressed the question being raised about it, she just pretended she couldn’t answer because the questioner wasn’t “accredited.”

Wake up people. This is your heath, and more importantly the health of your children that is at stake here. You owe it to them to do your due diligence, anyone who has them, or any grandparents who read this. Because they can’t. Start by looking up the Israeli dataset.
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November 3, 2021 8:10am
- emmess
  
  The video is here
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/93yESSBAhWKw/
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:31am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Saw one earlier from the Ferald. This one has been taken down I think
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:39am
    - Nickc2
      
      Still there.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:26pm
- westernScientest
  
  maybe she thought Israel was a rugby player?
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:48am
pdm

Is this true.

All of the heavy hitters are in Glasgow Monday to Friday of this week – Biden (well maybe a heavy sleeper) Merkel, Boris, Macron etc etc – and leave on Friday.

Meanwhile our Climate Change man, James Shaw and his 14 person entourage arrive Saturday?

Is that true because I cannot find anything anywhere about his itinerary and if correct what is the point of him leaving NZ?
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November 3, 2021 8:10am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Yes, it’s true pdm. All the hot-shot leaders will have departed by the weekend, but that’s when the actual work starts. Lower-level Ministers like Shaw, and the officials and diplomats they bring with them, stick around for a forum for another week where they will sit down and try to nut out putting what the leaders have all promised into action.
  
  The last few days have been all about show, and it’s basically been a talkfest, or in Joe Biden’s case, a snooze-fest. Then again, he wouldn’t be the first person to fall asleep whilst Prince Charles was speaking! Next week, something might actually get done!
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:29am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘Next week, something might actually get done!’
    
    Done ? The planned destruction of the west’s economy and freedoms .
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:34am
    - Taieri
      
      The planned destruction of the west’s economy and freedoms
      ————–
      
      The freedoms are already gone. Not much left of the economy either…
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:32am
    - mawm
      
      I think turning Glasgow into a glass factory before the weekend would go a long way to solving most of our problems.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:42pm
  - rangitoto
    
    The ideal outcome is that nothing gets done.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:39am
    - Hard Cheese
      
      Of course – otherwise there will be no COP 27 and another round of business class junkets for all
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:34am
  - backster
    
    Well Senile Joe is giving $2billion of American taxpayer money to Eastern /Pacific nabobs so Adern’s $1.3billion of NZ taxpayer money looks pretty kind by comparison.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:21am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    There’s nothing to do anyway. Pack the whole lot up and send them home.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:49am
  - Clownworld
    
    Its ok there will be a rep from The Wokehouse a french Nzer looking to virtual signal and produce a headline for the American CEO to help Shaw out. Amazing how many reps are not actually kiwis.
    
    All to keep big corporates nice bylines for marketing campaigns and appear virtuous. At the same time The Wokehouse looking to improve diversity and inclusion by firing the small minority who “freely” choose to follow their principles by being fired for their choice.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:39am
- G152
  
  Well all those fancy cars are booked solid with all the other wannabes until Saturday and he doesn’t want to look out of place on a push bike 🙂
  Hypocrites one hypocrites all
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:34am
  - sooty
    
    He’s given up on the pushy, it too cold, wet in Glasgow and he will have trouble with the suitcase. Besides he does like the limos with nice heated leather seats over riding on the bus from the airport!
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:23pm
- Biscuit
  
  Yep, pdm, 100% true.
  
  I read that Macron is already back in France.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:44am
  - rangitoto
    
    Yep. He’s having a tantrum about fishing rights.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:48am
- kowtow
  
  Wouldn’t it be nice if someone from the fact checking Media pardy calculated and published the carbon footprint of this gab fest.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:00am
- WaveyDavey
  
  The methane announcement was today
  
  He was just on TV3 saying he thought it was next week
  
  When you thought they couldn’t be more incompetent…
  
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  November 3, 2021 6:12pm
Nukuleka

Time to resurrect Don Brash’s National Party slogan from the excellent election campaign he led in 2005- ‘Kiwi not Iwi’. But just add the words ‘Oppose Racism’. Sadly, the only political party brave enough to adopt such a call in 2021 would be Winston’s. And he’d be on to a winner. ‘Kiwi not Iwi: Oppose Racism’. I like it!
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November 3, 2021 8:13am
- kowtow
  
  Winston would be a winner , and the rest of us losers.
  
  He’s only ever been in it for himself.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:32am
  - Unity
    
    He says what you want to hear then when he’s in a position to do something about it, he’s missing in action!!
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:00am
  - curry4me
    
    kowtow: Yes indeed; just like all the other times.
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:52pm
kevn

@Maggie… The Uncle seemed unhappy as well. Not being part of the ‘accredited media’ didn’t help of course. He had some sort of ID dog tag tho.
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November 3, 2021 8:16am
Ruahine

Ardern speaking yesterday in Northland.

‘One of the things I still hear is that Covid is not here. My very strong message to Northland is, of course we don’t want it to be here and we’re doing everything we can to stop it, but it would be wrong to say it won’t move. It’s a virus. It will come to people’s doors and it will find the unvaccinated,” she said.
Yes children the Bogeyman is coming.
But fear not for I Jacinda Ardern can save you.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-pm-convinced-northland-can-still-hit-90-per-cent-target/2OD4UKPH3NYKKJECXIGWPPUAI4/
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November 3, 2021 8:17am
- pdm
  
  `But fear not for I Jacinda Ardern can save you.’
  
  Bloody hell Ruahine I just saw a pig flying past my window!!
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:45am
  - Ehlana
    
    Quick, nominate it for bird of the year!
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:53am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Why does Ardern try to imitate a childish clown? I’ve done that as a parent at kindy but the PM of NZ doing it to the nation?
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:52am
- Fletch
  
  They held off locking down Northland until she could hightail it out of there.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:11am
I remember when

The dumping of 300 Kgs of Crayfish in the Chathams is in the news.
Does the fact they rely on generators for their power make this problem more likely.
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November 3, 2021 8:17am
- sooty
  
  But DOC, used mains electricity to snuff their snails!
  
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  November 3, 2021 2:28pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Because they were sold a crappy wind generator that didn’t survive their winds.
  
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  November 3, 2021 2:56pm
- Ian Boag
  
  It was failure of a water valve. Dunno that power had anything to do with it …
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:23pm
Tony Stuart

I am a lifelong sports fan, and particularly a lover of rugby and cricket. So I found this story on The Spinoff this morning particularly distressing:

Carl Hayman was once estimated to be the highest-paid player in rugby. Now, less than six years after the end of his playing days, he has spoken of the disorientation he felt as his career was winding down, the ceaseless headaches that plagued him and sent him into a spiral of alcohol abuse and frequent suicidal thoughts, culminating in a suspended prison sentence in France after admitting to charges of domestic violence.

“I spent several years thinking I was going crazy. At one stage that’s genuinely what I thought. It was the constant headaches and all these things going on that I couldn’t understand,” Hayman says.

The 41-year-old, once regarded as the finest tighthead prop in the world, now has an explanation. He received a shocking diagnosis after extensive testing in England that included a brain scan that can identify changes in the brain’s white matter. He has been diagnosed with early-onset dementia and probable chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE. It’s a progressive brain condition which has been strongly associated with former NFL players and boxers. The “probable” refers to the fact that it can only be properly diagnosed post mortem.

CTE has a profound impact on its sufferers and has been associated with many premature deaths in the US, including NFL superstars Junior Seau, Dave Duerson and Aaron Hernandez, the latter committing suicide in prison while serving a life sentence for murder. There have been no confirmed cases of CTE among former All Blacks, though the New Zealand Herald has reported links between rugby and high incidences of Alzheimer’s disease in specific teams.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/03-11-2021/carl-hayman-doesnt-want-to-forget/

At his peak, Hayman was a magnificent athlete. One of the tallest props to have played for New Zealand, he redefined the role of tighthead prop, and was the rock of a dominant All Black scrum in the early years of the Sir Graham Henry era.

Hayman received a massive offer from Toulon in France after the 2007 Rugby World Cup. He played 156 times for Toulon over five seasons, then a further 64 games for Newcastle in England over the next three seasons. He basically played non-stop from the time he was selected for the New Zealand U16 team at the age of 15.

Carl Hayman only had one serious concussion during his All Black career, versus Australia in 2006. But it was the volume of sub-concussive hits over his career that is most likely to have affected him.

The issue of dementia and CTE in professional sport has become a real talking point in the last few years. Is it too much to hope that Carl Hayman’s diagnosis might be the one that stops New Zealand and global rugby authorities from talking about player welfare to actually doing something about it?
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November 3, 2021 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  The professionalisation of rugby has led to the promotion of “big hit” tackling , to entertain and earn advertising revenue , thus the brain injuries.Player welfare is a lie .
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:30am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Ironically, it seems that it’s not the big hits that cause the problems. Rather they are the result of a cumulative effect of repetitive small impacts over an extended period.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:45am
    - Prince
      
      Like maybe 40 scrum sets/resets each game, plus the innumerable practices.
      
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      November 3, 2021 8:58am
    - Cinematic
      
      Unfortunately some heads are prone to this sort of damage. Others (the overwhelming majority) are unaffected. Carl did have a particularly intense and long career which wouldn’t have helped.
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:18am
  - Colville
    
    Nothing to do with it at all.
    
    Props use the top of their heads as a weapon. To create a hole or clean out they go head first into a gap or where they want a gap to be. Then there are the hitups that are part of the job.
    
    Hayman at his peak was circa 6 foot 5 and 130 kg and very mobile. That is a shit-ton of bang for the brain each time he runs.
    
    You think you can put a “big hit” on Carl? 🙂
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:58am
    - Swifty
      
      Years ago, early-mid 2000s I guess, I was walking along Elliot St in downtown Auckland and following just a few feet behind a true man-mountain.
      
      I remember thinking that this must be one of the largest and most-solid men I had ever seen. A giant. Some sort of super man. I’m over 5-11 and felt puny and small next to him.
      
      We drew level as he stopped and turned slightly towards me as I passed him – it was Carl Hayman.
      
      Good grief, the thought of trying to stop him ball in hand….
      
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      November 3, 2021 9:34am
      - sooty
        
        If he’s having trouble, just imagine the results on smaller men?
        
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        November 3, 2021 2:31pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  A sad story but I would be asking what is the incidence of early onset dementia among the general population vs people who have played a lot of rugby? Also, what would you like NZ rugby to do? They could introduce compulsory head protection but the NFL has helmets and that hasn’t stopped it.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:31am
- MCos
  
  I watched on Sunday morning as Nepo Laulala was yellow carded when Ross Moriarty bashed into him with his head.
  No wonder these guys get brain damage. The wrong bloke was carded.
  Nevertheless
  As bad as rugby is becoming with ever bigger & faster blokes running into each other, American football is far worse.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:50am
- pdm
  
  Sad story Inv.
  
  One thing I think of from time to time – Hayman and Ken Gray together would have anchored a formidable All Black Front Row.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:52am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Or Keith Murdoch pdm. Murdoch was nowhere near as big as Hayman, but by the left, he was awesomely strong. There’s a story down south about him holding a car up while a tyre was changed.
    
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    November 3, 2021 1:30pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  When I was a young fella, I was lucky enough to play a few matches against Richard Loe. He was about same height as me, 6’2″, but quite a bit heavier than my 105kg. When he ran into you, you knew about it, I can tell you. I vividly remember him putting on shoulder on our hooker (who wasn’t a light weight) and literally lifting him off the ground and catapulting him backward about 10 feet. So I can’t even grasp what it must have been like to come up against Carl Hayman.
  And before anyone has a moan about Loe, while he was hard as nails as a player and gave no quarter, he was a really good bugger.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:58am
- ecco
  
  Rugby players are in a par with sumo wrestlers these days. Bred for sporting entertainment. But at great personal cost to their health and life expectancy.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:00am
Maggy Wassilieff

Dr Bob Brockie explains the transformation of the Royal Society of NZ:

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/bob-brockie-the-flight-from-reason?postId=a8fb5bd7-0e16-4d27-b1f8-56dc70d555eb
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November 3, 2021 8:21am
- rangitoto
  
  The Queen should demand they remove Royal from their name. Mind you, the real RS hasn’t done much since Sir Isaac’s time as President.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:52am
Paulus

I don’t know whether I can comment or query anything our part time Prime Minister says as I am not an accredited media person, where questions have to be sent in first and approved to get to ask questions of her.
Made a right arse of herself in Northland yesterday – thought she was supposed to be clever at such repartee.
Hope she does better in Wanganui today.
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November 3, 2021 8:23am
Maggie Pie

Foul mouth eco-activist Greta Thunberg tells James Shaw and the rest of the poseurs attending COP26…

“You can shove your climate crisis up your arse!”

https://youtu.be/HHvyWACMnnU
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November 3, 2021 8:24am
- Scott
  
  To be honest Maggie I don’t like either of them. Greta appears to be a very young woman with an inflated sense of own importance. What the heck does she know about anything?
  
  And James Shaw appears to want to destroy the New Zealand economy by dropping our carbon output to unmanageable levels.
  
  And meanwhile important world leaders fly into this important conference, on their important private jets and pontificate about important things. They are so important that they can even change the weather!
  When did our world leaders become God? 🙂
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:39am
  - Unity
    
    None of it makes any sense to me. I feel that the climate has always changed and always will and there is nothing we can do about it. It’s created by the solar system. We can do something about pollution, plastic bags in waterways etc though and should. I’ve lived by the coast all my long life and the water hasn’t risen at all. Of course we get extreme weather events, king tides etc but that has always and will always happen and there is nothing we can do about it apart from being prepared and being sensible where we allow buildings to be put.
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:07am
- emmess
  
  I think most of us here would agree with that sentiment. Let’s repeat it right back at her.
  
  Greta, You can shove your climate crisis up your arse!
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:43am
- Biscuit
  
  Maggie. just about every picture I see of James has him sporting the sort of shocked expression you and I might sport if something had been shoved up OUR….
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:47am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Speak for yourself Bikkie 😀
    
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    November 3, 2021 9:04am
    - pdm
      
      Bikkie – good one Maggie.
      
      Take that Biscuit. lol.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:27pm
  - oldfella
    
    Biscuit, you mean like during a digital prostate exam?
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:15am
- curry4me
  
  Maggie Pie: I agree but for different reasons.
  
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  November 3, 2021 2:58pm
kowtow

In today’s Ferald there are a number of interesting juxtapositions on two Bat flu stories.

The first is an internal jux on the “yank” interupting the Prime mangler , he is identified by name and nationality , but they don’t name his website , presumably not to give it any publicity . Yet they don’t tell us the woman heckler was Maori and stating that the PM had no sovereignty over Ngai Puhi .

The other jux is that is over a story about gang leaders promoting the vaccine . We’re treated to a photo of two of them and the names of their criminal organisations .

To be fair to the “yank” , at least he’s asking the PM the questions the so called accredited media won’t or are literally too scared to put to her .

They will in time though , when the fizzer efficacy falls off a cliff and our negligible ICU’s are overwhelmed.
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November 3, 2021 8:27am
- Reid
  
  I think this is the guy here, this is a long form interview with him outlining the issue. I suspect he’s a recent immigrant because he says he’s worked with several DHB’s in his time here.
  
  Don’t pay attention to what the host says. While I admire him for putting up a channel that is a breath of fresh air, his views on the virus and the vax should not be taken seriously, just listen to what his various guests say, both in this one and the other vids on his rumble channel.
  
  https://rumble.com/vmwgfd-counterspin-ep.-30-covid-19-the-other-side.html
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:02am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Noticed this in one of the articles:
  “Earlier a media conference outside Te Hononga was drowned out…..”
  Could have named the place for what it is – the upgraded Kawakawa Hundertwasser toilets – which the Princess apparently needed. 🙂
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:58am
ABS4EVA

Anyone who attempts to DEFEND

Australia or New Zealand is
Shot Down in Flames

A diesel Sub that Surfaces to be blown out of the Water? made by the french who tested Nukes in the Pacific and attacked NZ.

Yes that is a combination that will work.

All the Commie Lovers have their Knickers in a twist because Dutton and Morrison are doing the only thing they can do try and make up for 10 decades of Australian Defence neglect and incompetence.

The Subs are not coming people

AUSTRALIA is FINISHED

and so is New Zealand

I can’t wait to leave the region

Worse is coming than COVID
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November 3, 2021 8:28am
- Flossie
  
  May I politely enquire where you might go? As far as I know the only place a New Zealand citizen – not dual – can go without a visa is Australia. And having lived there several years I can tell you being a Kiwi in Oz is not exactly a level playing field. But if you have information of other places we could go to freely live (and work if we need to) please advise.
  If you are in fact not a New Zealander, then I apologise, but I would have to wonder why you haven’t already left the region.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:18am
  - Clownworld
    
    I hear you. Fortunately some of us have dual citizenship so have options. The challenging part is where to go. NZ looks in big trouble like the rest of the world. I feel for most NZers as when you don’t have choices it feels like freedom is disappearing fast.
    
    Agree Oz is likely to be a slightly better version of NZ unless Dan and Cindy are given the Oceania region to reign?
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:54am
  - ABS4EVA
    
    Switzerland and America
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:55am
- Ian Boag
  
  I can’t wait to leave the region
  
  Promises promises 🙂
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:24am
  - ABS4EVA
    
    I will have 3 global Bases
    maybe even 4
    
    My Daughter has and continues to work
    Full time for New York throughout this Pandemic
    
    Great Coastal Property along the post
    from the Big Apple
    
    How is life in the Little Prune
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:42pm
Surely Knott

Fauci at a conference discussing flu vaccines in 2019. Discussing how the mrna technology would take a decade to release, that people aren’t taking influenza seriously enough, and how they need a disruptive event to launch mrna technology.

Other speaker “There might be a need or even an urgent call for an entity of excitement out there that is completely disruptive , that is not beholden to bureacratic strings, and processes.” Fauci “right right. ”
Fauci: ” So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza and it’s going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say I don’t care what your perception is we’re going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way, because you do need both”.
Other speaker: “But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in china somewhere, we could get the RNA sequence from that and beam it to a number of regional centres if not local or even in your home at some point and print those vaccines on a patch and self administer.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&fbclid=IwAR1T8uCtHCYx2_xIYLFyA9yxksImZucioO3ETzR3FIVDBWuIdgqphZJ4RCY&v=5qOW40wmRhs&feature=youtu.be
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November 3, 2021 8:29am
Southern Raider

Once again an unelected council body making sweeping changes based on ideology of management. One of the biggest land mass cities in the world and AT thinks people don’t need cars, plus the other side of the Council is allowing developers to build more dense housing with no off street parking to compound the issue

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-council-drawing-up-radical-plan-to-remove-parking-on-roads-across-the-city/L4OLNDETKNNE22SRX6RGGJHTAI/
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November 3, 2021 8:30am
- Fletch
  
  All part of the plan to get people on public transport. Politicians love public transport – unless they have to use it themselves.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:04am
  - sooty
    
    Do you think they would have run it past this labour gobblement first?
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:39pm
Tony Stuart

I wonder if Dr Siouxsie Wiles has made any comment about the revelations that she and others were given specific messages from the Government’s hired PR gun to share with the public, described by journalist Kate MacNamara as “opaque” and “political choreography”

More to the point, are the “health experts” we see so much of in the media STILL being told by the Government what they should say, and is this a reflection on the independence of their professions?
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November 3, 2021 8:32am
- Cinematic
  
  Brought and paid for health experts. No wonder Bloomfield leapt to Wiles defence, they were literally on the same team.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:21am
- Aunty
  
  Those are good questions, Tony. Some others I would add are, where they even aware that they were being possibly manipulated by the Government and used as useful idiots?
  
  And do they have any expectation down the track of receiving appointment to various government agencies and Boards and or rolls?
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:16am
- oldfella
  
  Tony, someone needs to front Wiles and ask her to explain. Once upon a time we had people who would do things like that. I think they were called journalists. No more.
  These days such people all work for the PM’s spin department known as Accredited Media. /s
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:23am
- pdm
  
  Inv: I take no notice of anything Siouxie, Hendy, Baker or Jackson says.
  
  Collectively they give me the guts ache.
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:30pm
Reid

“How effective is immunity after Covid recovery relative to vaccination? An Israeli study by Gazit et al. found that the vaccinated have a 27 times higher risk of symptomatic infection than the Covid recovered. At the same time, the vaccinated were nine times more likely to be hospitalized for Covid. In contrast, a CDC study by Bozio et al. claims that the Covid recovered are five times more likely to be hospitalized for Covid than the vaccinated. Both studies cannot be right.

I have worked on vaccine epidemiology since I joined the Harvard faculty almost two decades ago as a biostatistician. I have never before seen such a large discrepancy between studies that are supposed to answer the same question. In this article, I carefully dissect both studies, describe how the analyses differ, and explain why the Israeli study is more reliable…”

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-review-and-autopsy-of-two-covid-immunity-studies/
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November 3, 2021 8:36am
dime

Dime was looking over his share portfolio this morning.

A lot of US stocks. The gains are unreal.

If my portfolio had a few more zeros on the end of it, the government would see me as pure evil.

But is anyone actually holding these governments to account? the way they have grown these giant corporates at the expense of small business is unreal.

Does anyone remember when the left HATED corporations and BIG PHARMA??

Some market caps:

Microsoft – 2.5 trillion
Apple – 2.42 trillion
Google – 1.98 trillion (no bathroom breaks you greedy employees)
Tesla – 1.182 (jesus christ this is over valued)
Meta (Facebook) – 912 billion

Total

9 trillion dollars.

Total revenue last 12 months:

1.32 trillion dollars. (Tesla makes up about $90 of that. “investing” in tesla is gambling).

There are 14 countries with a higher GDP.

This is just at the extreme end. Damage is being done.

Im not sure what the answer is – but capitalism isnt about govt control, barriers to entry etc
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November 3, 2021 8:38am
- Reid
  
  If I was you I’d cash out and put it into physical assets. Blackrock is doing just that big time right now. They’re buying residential property hand over fist. Gates chose to buy farmland, as you would I imagine know.
  
  There’s a reason.
  
  The market is in the calm before the biggest storm you have ever seen, I’d act accordingly if I was you.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:48am
  - RichardX
    
    How many times have you predicted global crashes in the last 10 years?
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:19am
  - dime
    
    I’ll just ride it out.
    
    I odnt want to pay 1.2 million for a shitty house in auckland, so i can be told the tenant has more property rights than i do etc etc etc
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:41am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Gates is buying land to provide for his non-meat supplies. All the bugs you don’t want to eat.
    
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    November 3, 2021 10:59am
- westernScientest
  
  money printer go brrrrr. Irrational exuberance, looking more and more like a much worse version of the .com bubble every day. Unfortunately this time when it crashes interest rates will have to rise not fall, welcome to stagflation.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:59am
- ecco
  
  The Auckland property market is doing the same thing due to the money printing here. With the locking out of first home buyers it’s effectively the biggest redistribution of wealth from millennials to the boomers in history. I think the US market still has a way to run with the money still sitting on the sidelines.
  Tesla and crypto have seriously turbo charged some portfolio returns in the last 18 months.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:57am
dime

Do you think anyone is any of these governments is asking the one really important question at the moment?

“why dont the people trust us??”

i mean, gee i fucking wonder..

Dime can assure you he read a lot of research on the vaccine before taking it. Our governments good word did not help the for case.
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November 3, 2021 8:39am
artemisia

So IRD is attempting to fill the gaps in its info on the rather well off in New Zealand by demand.

Does anyone actually believe that?

Meanwhile some of those with serious coin are looking at a legal challenge. Or looking elsewhere, as our Finance Minister has advised (albeit to renters who can’t afford their rent).
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November 3, 2021 8:44am
- JibberJabber
  
  Maybe they should start by looking at someone who has never had a job in the real world but is now reportedly worth $10 million, did she win the Lotto(by any other name) by any chance?
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:26am
- I remember when
  
  The IRD.
  Due to update of systems online down until 28 October, however filing extended until 4 November.
  On 29 October return shows as overdue for filing.
  Always good to see a flexible system that can adjust for changes in circumstances.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:35am
JibberJabber

https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2021/11/i-think-i-will-switch-from-mike-hosking.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed: AsianInvasion2019 (Asian Invasion 2019)

Says no Mike Hosking fan ——————- ever.

Breakfast is a hard timeslot for a new starter to break into when there are already two radio behemoths in the news market, Newstalk ZB and Radio New Zealand’s Morning Report.
Yes and people who want to hear pinko lockdown lunatics and climate doomists, already listen to Moaning Report.

Magic Talk is a graveyard for careers and a departure lounge for the retiring. You can relaunch it as many times as you want, it went woke and it will stay broke. Talkback callers and the core audience will never forgive it.
I guess now we know who will get the PM on first to continue to give her $55m of PR and patsies.

Leftova Rova.
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November 3, 2021 9:05am
Aunty

A very good piece in today’s NZHerald from Brooke van Velden on New Zealand’s compassionate and just End Of Life Choice Act which comes into effect on Sunday.

Thanks and well done to all those involved in getting this important Human Rights legislation through.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/brooke-van-velden-end-of-life-choice-act-gives-bobbie-the-choice-she-deserves/AJGG3EMJQ7RCFLHYWVOVBQJEAI/
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November 3, 2021 9:20am
- Taieri
  
  On the one hand we lockdown to save the Grannies from death by Covid. On the other hand we want to kill them with dignity and compassion. Funny that, isn’t it?
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:38am
- kowtow
  
  As I posted earlier ,
  
  how come it’s Ok to off Granny early by law now when literally society has been up ended at huge cost to keep some very old , very sick Grandees alive for a cuppla or three weeks more than their natural time. Seriously.
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:42am
  - thirteenstars
    
    The two aren’t related. The only similarity is they both involve death. But so does stepping in front of a bus.
    
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    November 3, 2021 11:21am
- graham
  
  Our society is quite weird at times.
  
  “Suicide” – we call it tragic, and say it must stop
  “Assisted dying” – we call it choosing to die in dignity, and say it is the right thing to do
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:34am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Assisted dying is not available for reasons like depression, your business is struggling, or that you broke up with your girlfriend and such.
    
    You need to be terminal, so it is a way to exit from those people who have to face the horror of slow, painful, and even humiliating death.
    
    In the case of assisted dying, a tragedy is already there one way or another in any case.
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:29pm
    - lifesgood
      
      For reasons like depression….yet.
      
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      November 3, 2021 2:42pm
I remember when

Is there a danger that the Anti-Vaxxers are all idiots argument becomes an entrenched attitude.
Is the other side of the debate that all vaccinations are necessary and can/must be automatically agreed to.
Why stop at vaccination, there is a multitude of subjects out there the require the same approach.
Are we really instantly intelligent when we accept one side of any debate.
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November 3, 2021 9:28am
kowtow

Two people were running round Chch with deadly different delta and there’s been no huge outbreak of the plague there .

Am I missing something?
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November 3, 2021 9:38am
- kevn
  
  @kowtow… Same story in Coromandel township a while ago. How odd.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:00am
  - sooty
    
    Wellington as well with a couple of aussies on a dirty weekend!
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:44pm
surfing

Happy news story of the day, they found the missing Western Australian girl, Cleo.

Now, it is too bad there is no death penalty in Australia, because if the most likely explanation is true, then the abductor would be the ideal candidate!
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November 3, 2021 9:39am
Captain Mainwaring

Kidnapped 4 year old Cleo Smith found alive in a house in Carnarvon.
Fantastic work by the WA Police.
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November 3, 2021 9:51am
westernScientest

Who would have guessed, Robo doesn’t record, or intentionally hides where money comes from and goes:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/126867424/auditorgeneral-criticises-governments-difficult-to-track-accounting-of-public-spending
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November 3, 2021 9:58am
- Prince
  
  In other words, the Auditor-General is unable to track Government spending (where it went, who got it, what they did with it), , or identify any outcomes.
  Nothing to worry about though.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:45am
  - sooty
    
    So there is no record of what got trousered!
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:46pm
Rusty

So [deleted by Mod. Unreasonable abuse] Greta Thurnberg was filmed with other [deleted by Mod] singing a song to the global warming (cop 26) people to stick the conference up their arses.

Why does [deleted, personal attack – Mod] get so much media time when its obvious she doesn’t know what global warming is in the first place or even cares what cop 26 is all about?

Of course she is being used by the woke/global warming alarmists who in turn aren’t interested in solutions but want to destroy capitalism full stop.
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November 3, 2021 10:00am
- ecco
  
  I’m predicting Greta will implode with all the attention. Like some of the women tennis players who win in their teenage years.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:03am
  - lifesgood
    
    She is looking and behaving weirder and weirder apart from looking like a 9 year old. . It’s only a matter of time before she will implode. She’s losing the plot.
    
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    November 3, 2021 2:47pm
Reid

Technofog did a FOIA on the background emails the FDA exchanged before changing its definition of vaccine.

They changed it on 1 Sep 21 from “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce *immunity* to a specific disease” to the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce *protection* from a specific disease”

Too bad our “accredited” journalists never thought to ask why they just did that, back in early sep, when our vax rollout was just getting started…

Background to the change is worth reading, see the link:

https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc-emails-our-definition-of-vaccine
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November 3, 2021 10:09am
curry4me

A new slogan for the Biden ‘admimistration’.

https://www.tiktok.com/@nickjfreitas/video/7022991504251636997?_d=secCgwIARCbDRjEFSACKAESPgo84fwZuJc07qViBSISfdKRIgCbi00r43T7veHOExR5Ng50ZV2rqmMRshO9n2RPoyCOt2oNZK2b4M9DzNrxGgA%3D&checksum=b530fb247c92ec8f4fc989990eececa203f332a7937959924d05a4dfe0e3420d&language=en&preview_pb=0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAAsEs45jerKFVzw1vQmAOJ-Kyqf_sQA6DtMZP9vvDp6kBivPoih0zQ1KxPrfkapNTn&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=7022991504251636997&share_link_id=2A2E2DE7-684D-4623-BA1A-4A02EE8ECEA3&source=h5_m&timestamp=1635880832&tt_from=facebook&u_code=d5e2jjblhhajah&user_id=6675503767452828678&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=facebook&_r=1
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November 3, 2021 10:22am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4TXQYBWtPY

Dems Horrified As ‘Trump Coup’ Becomes ‘Runaway Train’!

Democrats are horrified! They’re panicked as they’re beginning to realize that the Trump Train is unstoppable! They’re calling it the ‘slow-motion coup’, and at least one leftist is sounding the alarm that it’s turning into a runaway train! In this video, we’re going to look at what they’re calling a coup, we’re going to see why the left believes Trump is becoming unstoppable, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal what’s REALLY happening that has the Dems rightly terrified. [11:2. Well, a tad concerned anyhow. Let’s go Brandon!]
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November 3, 2021 10:30am
- Batman
  
  That runaway train being a clear move to remove democratic process and ensure a GOP win for the white ethno-nationalist movement.
  
  Got it.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:41am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    How do Blacks or Latinos who support the Republician party fit in with you assumption on what is the ‘movement’.
    i.e. They aint Black? (to borrow from the old Geezer’s phrase)
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:35pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Lol
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:44pm
I remember when

Can’t wait for the net to have a major outage when we have a ‘Cashless’ economy.
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November 3, 2021 10:31am
Raphael

The news coming out of Afghanistan is getting worse and worse.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-left-afghanistan-taliban-took-over-now-more-families-selling-prepubescent-girls-to-keep-from-starving

After President Biden pulled the last U.S. troops out of Afghanistan in August, many starving families have resorted to selling their pre-pubescent girls into marriages with older men in order to survive.

“Though marrying off children under 15 is illegal nationwide, it has been commonly practiced for years, especially in more rural parts of Afghanistan. And it has only spread since August, driven by widespread hunger and desperation,” CNN reported.

The CNN report released on Tuesday detailed multiple instances where the young girls were sold, while asserting that international aid has dried up and the country’s economy has collapsed. Mohammad Naiem Nazem, a human rights activist, told CNN, “Day by day, the numbers are increasing of families selling their children. Lack of food, lack of work, the families feel they have to do this.”

Parwana Malik, a 9-year-old girl, told CNN that she was being sold to a man who says he is 55 years old and has white eyebrows and a thick white beard; she added that she was fearful he would beat her and force her to work for him. Her father, Abdul Malik, told CNN, “We are eight family members. I have to sell to keep other family members alive.” When the buyer arrived at her home, her father wept and begged, “This is your bride. Please take care of her — you are responsible for her now, please don’t beat her.” Abdul Malik added to CNN, “The old man told me, ‘I’m paying for the girl. It’s none of your business what I’m doing with her … that’s my business.’”

“As they left, her father watching by the doorway, Parwana dug her feet into the dirt and tried to pull away — but it was no use. She was dragged to the waiting car, which slowly pulled away,” CNN reported.
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November 3, 2021 10:36am
- Fletch
  
  Biden has fkd up America and is doing the same to the world. He should have been mocked at the global summit and told to go home, or better, never invited in the first place.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:52am
- mandk
  
  The Prophet would be proud of this.
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:54am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Yeah, yeah. I heard all these sob stories coming out of Afghanistan in the late 1990’s, on top of the earlier screams about Saddam’s Iraq and before that, Somalia.
  
  But the moment the West tries to do anything actually useful about such situations the scream-fest turns 180 degrees to attack the West.
  
  The screamers this time will get what they approve of, some United Nations “effort” that will salve their consciences while doing nothing on the ground.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:00am
I remember when

Our Neighbourhood Watch report a doubling of weekly burglaries in our area.
Sign that the ‘Shop Early for Christmas’ message is getting through.
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November 3, 2021 10:44am
Maggie Pie

Looks like YouTube have already removed the vid of Cindy’s antics in Northland yesterday closing down the presser.

All a bit late though…even Canada is taking the piss 😀

https://twitter.com/slowjigger/status/1455578239473172487
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November 3, 2021 10:45am
- Bridgenag
  
  Left the Maori protester out…………..
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:44am
  - kowtow
    
    So did the Ferald article . While they smeared the “Yank” , named him etc , they only talked of a woman ……..not a wahine ……seeing as how they love to poke in that stuff whenever they can.
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:13pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      Hope someone is keeping a list….Anyone know what happened to the $49m from the first incompetents in MIQ Don’t think an airline would let you fly first pay later Course probably nothing retrieved….
      
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      November 3, 2021 6:49pm
Clownworld

Back in hospital system last week some of the comments explain the mood of nation…

#Some staff over the whole saga.

#One commenting how they have a nurse not getting vaccine prepared to lose job

#Another commenting teacher friend losing their job

#Another stating off to Oz as soon as possible for work

# sorry we have to keep asking …in regards to checking negative tests – asked 3 times in 10mins

# bloody govt underfunding us for years
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November 3, 2021 10:48am
WaveyDavey

Tax more or spend less, Treasury warns

Buckle-up it’s about to get rocky

“Tax increases, trimming public spending, and boosting the productivity of the workforce (ahahahahahahaha, oh my aching sides) need to be part of the Government’s economic medicine as the country recovers from Covid-19, Treasury says.”

Who knew that a “wellbeing” economy would fail to pay the bills?

“Adopting the Government’s new wellbeing approach, Treasury noted that while New Zealanders’ social wellbeing was very high, financial and physical metrics were not so good.”

Almost as if promising everything to everybody might not be a sustainable long-term plan

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-delta-outbreak-tax-more-or-spend-less-treasury-warns/VK7YEVDMU2PQMSAE6XDXIJODL4/
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November 3, 2021 10:54am
ABS4EVA

NOVAVAX is approved in INDONESIA

NZ has not even started the Discussion.
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November 3, 2021 11:00am
Fletch

I posted this late last night but it didn’t get modded until this morning, so posting here again –

Getting beyond a joke. Now all Auckland Uni staff and students will have to be vaxxed. And all Countdown staff?

https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/11/02/countdown-auckland-university-announce-vaccine-mandates/

This can’t go on. People aren’t going to stand for it. It’s ludicrous. How many student loans are they going to have to refund? And what a way to treat the workers at Countdown who have stood strong and gone to work even in level 4 conditions. What a slap in the face. Expect to see supermarket shelves unstocked and orders take longer to arrive.

I think people who bought into the govt vaccine-as-savior line are going to be in for a real shock when it doesn’t work and the whole passport thing is discarded.
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November 3, 2021 11:06am
- Fletch
  
  ps, I have heard from someone who works there that this will also mean all Countdown suppliers… People aren’t happy.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:42am
- Clownworld
  
  Well countdown are owned by Oz and who owns Oz?
  
  Oz and NZ are little experimental wokeworlds or new CCP union delegates?
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:34pm
rangitoto

Flop26

“The parade of 400 private jets parked up at Scottish airports as world leaders, royalty and billionaires gushed out more carbon within a 24-hour period than most of us will in a lifetime”

“I learnt a big lesson that constant scare campaigns from people who jet around the globe in private jets is not the best way to tackle climate change or environmental issues.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10157499/I-want-save-planet-resent-told-it.html
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November 3, 2021 11:16am
- Paulus
  
  Is out RNAF B757 there yet or has it broken down on its way ?
  
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  November 3, 2021 2:24pm
MCos

You need a subscription to read this story, but the headline is all you need to know.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-crowd-super-bummed-that-jfk-jr-did-not-appear-in-dallas
Note
JFK Jnr was killed in a plane crash more than twenty years ago. The Qanon nutters believe he faked his death and will put in an appearance at the Grassy Knoll to support Trump . . . .
Follow up
He didn’t, the scoundrel!
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November 3, 2021 11:27am
- Fletch
  
  Maybe Biden will come back to life and show up, too…
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:49pm
ecco

Did anyone see the 7.10 am interview yesterday on the AM show with the Auckland retailer and the restaurant owner who are still in this living hell imposed on them unnecessarily by Ardern. Absolutely broken people. It was very hard to watch.

Bridge did a great job of a tough interview showing empathy for the plight of these people. The hospitality industry in Auckland still has no end date for this nightmare. And I suspect for many akl retailers it’s all too little, too late. Very hard for people outside Auckland to fathom how it feels to be an Auckland business owner. Life is largely back to normal outside of Auckland. Only when people start to lose their jobs do they start to get the incompetence of Ardern, Hipkins, Robertson and Bloomfield.
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November 3, 2021 11:46am
- ecco
  
  Here is the link to these interviews with the Auckland small business peoplehttps://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=599501018135320&external_log_id=5c6b561e-3047-43c0-ac2e-91f9bc57ee00&q=the%20AM%20show
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:55pm
Fletch

Oh dear –

With 99.7% of adults in the Irish county of Waterford having received the COVID shots, they have the highest per-capita case rate of COVID anywhere in the country.

The Irish Times reported last week that with one Waterford city district at a 14-day incidence rate of 1,486 cases per 100,000 of the population, Waterford has the highest incidence rate of anywhere in Ireland. The COVID case rate is three times the national average, which in itself has been increasing steadily in recent weeks, despite 91% of Irish adults being vaccinated. However, Waterford takes the cake.

“Waterford has the highest rate of vaccination in the country with 99.7 per cent of adults over the age of 18 (as registered in the last census) fully vaccinated,” reports the Irish Times. “The county has gone from having one of the lowest rates of Covid-19 infection in Ireland to one of the highest.”

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-irish-county-with-99-7-vaccination-rate-has-highest-covid-case-rate

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/waterford-city-district-has-state-s-highest-rate-of-covid-19-infections-1.4707344

Doesn’t bode well for us in trying to reach the 90% mark and over.
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November 3, 2021 11:47am
- Batman
  
  For starters the vaccination rate is not connected to covid.
  
  And didn’t you spend a chunk of last year saying the cases were inflated?
  
  And clearly with a 90% vaccination rate, restrictions are reduced and covid becomes the mild endemic disease you’ve been hoping for.
  
  This is great news and not the owning you thought it is, despite posting it multiple times on KB in the last week or so.
  
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  November 3, 2021 11:57am
  - Fletch
    
    I just looked up the stats for Ireland – 90.11% vaxxed and 88.63% double vaxxed.
    
    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/vaccinations
    
    Yet as of today they have 3,723 new cases. But yes, you are right to say that a “case” doesn’t really mean anything. I wonder why they keep on counting them then? Still, if we keep counting cases the way Ireland does, expect to see the same results.
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:17pm
    - Batman
      
      It certainly doesn’t mean anything with a vaccine that is road tested to make you 11 times less likely to be hospitalised and 90% less likely to die.
      
      So yes, the obsession with case numbers is likely down to the media needing simple metrics to talk about and get clicks with.
      
      If they weren’t published, I’m sure many would say it’s even more of a conspiracy to make us all become leftist Muslim homosexuals or whatever is the vibe this week on the fringe.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:39pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        The only fringe comment here is your last sentence batty-boy
        
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        November 3, 2021 2:02pm
  - Taieri
    
    For starters the vaccination rate is not connected to covid
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    Isn’t it? So, what’s the vaccination for if it’s “rate” is not connected to Covid? Tuberculosis? Syphilis? Repetitive Strain Injury?
    
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    November 3, 2021 12:24pm
    - Batman
      
      Poor wording on my part but you are being a bit cheeky I’m sure.
      
      I should have said: the vaccination rate is not connected to the number of covid cases. Although higher case numbers may motivate a few more people to get vaccinated if they see people they know get sick with it.
      
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      November 3, 2021 12:36pm
      - Fletch
        
        I thought the whole point of vaccination was to bring case numbers down? That’s the way the govt is looking at it anyway.
        
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        November 3, 2021 12:51pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The vaccination is for control – fear porn
      
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      November 3, 2021 2:30pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  ““The county has gone from having one of the lowest rates of Covid-19 infection in Ireland to one of the highest.””
  
  Two things..
  
  If the are like the UK, rates will be soaring in unvaccinated kids. Big deal. If the following statement is true let me know:
  
  “The county has gone from having one of the lowest rates of hospitalisations and deaths from Covid-19 illness in Ireland to one of the highest.”
  
  If that statement is false, there is no need to be surprised or concerned. Every person in Waterford will eventually be infected with COVID. Just like me, you and every person in New Zealand. When we all wake up to that reality maybe we can get back to normal.
  
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  November 3, 2021 1:42pm
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    I am not as sure as you that everyone in New Zealand will catch the Covid19 virus. Please explain your logic.
    
    Normally 5 to 20 % of the population catch the standard flue. Even if the Covid19 Delta version is more virulent, I can’t see everyone catching it.
    
    There is some evidence that some people are immune due to natural immunities.
    
    Glad to have you educate me.
    
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    November 3, 2021 8:38pm
Surely Knott

From NZ History.govt.nz

Inhalation chamber during the 1918 influenza pandemic.

Transcript: “They found some scheme. They were going to put us through a chamber – sort of gas. Oh, I was up to that. I thought, this’ll do me; they ain’t going to charge. So … they showed us into this bit of a room. Oh, I suppose there were 50 or 60 at one [go]. And they put us in and sealed it up and turned this sort of gas on – you could hear it squibbing and hissing – and didn’t it get warm and sort of foggy … By gum, I began to sweat a bit. And I suppose it was on for a bit over five minutes anyway. And, I was glad to hear the door opening, and let the air in again! Anyway, I came out, and my eyes were running and I felt … I don’t think much of that treatment, anyhow. Well, anyway, it didn’t do me any good. I don’t think it did anybody any good. And as for stopping the epidemic, they found out after that it was only egging it on! It was making it worse! If you weren’t going to have it – you were more likely to have it having this treatment. So, after a bit they knocked that off sudden!

In what looks more like a cowshed than a medical facility (it was actually a bicycle shed), Christchurch citizens line up in an inhalation chamber for a dose of zinc sulphate. Like many supposed cures for the flu, it probably did more harm than good.”

Video of the Zinc Sulphate inhalation troughs is worth a watch. Line up. Line up.

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/sound/influenza-inhalation-chamber
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November 3, 2021 12:05pm
kowtow

TV1 plastering the screens with video of the hoodlum gangster men who have probably done more damage to this country than …….God knows what .

Willie jackson just said the virus doesn’t discriminate . Here was me thinking we were told by all and sundry how racist the virus was .

Anyway TV1 should be ashamed of themselves and the rest of new Zealand is hopefully disgusted.
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November 3, 2021 12:07pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum txt…

‘ A drongo took the baby’
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November 3, 2021 12:10pm
Fletch

A Reefton couple shut down their gym rather than discriminate against the unvaxxed.

Powerhouse Fitness Centre manager Rachel Fifield owns the Reefton gym with her husband Murray Fifield.

The new Covid-19 Protection Framework, or traffic-light system was announced as the couple were moving the fitness centre to new premises and it made them consider if they wanted to continue the business.

Rachel Fifield said the couple did not want to discriminate against its members or employees based on their personal choice whether or not to get vaccinated.

“We both agreed that we weren’t prepared to do the Government’s dirty work for them and discriminate against our community and that is exactly why we closed our gym, it is a political stand against tyranny, we won’t enforce discrimination of any kind.

“I think New Zealand needs to look at this really seriously, the division that it’s making in our communities, families and workplaces.”

The couple had recently spent thousands buying new gym equipment and painting their new building ahead of what would have been the gym’s third birthday.

She said the decision was not made lightly and the couple had since received support from around the country for their stance.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/11/02/reefton-gym-shuts-down-rather-than-police-vaccine-certificates/
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November 3, 2021 12:13pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The socialists win by stealth again – destroying Capitalism
  
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  November 3, 2021 2:36pm
Benedict Yu

Looks like the Government and the Opposition are pushing for vaccinating 5 – 11 year olds. Apparently Pfizer is applying in the next couple of weeks.

“National Party Covid-19 response spokesperson Chris Bishop said with approval looming, details of actual supply should be a sure thing by now.

“It’s really important that we get on an order the vaccine supply for five to 11-year-olds and frankly it’s outrageous that we haven’t yet.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/454724/pfizer-s-ability-to-manufacture-paediatric-vaccines-to-meet-demand-will-be-a-challenge-bloomfield

Yeah Chris I am not so sure about that. Have you actually thought about this from the perspective of child wellbeing are are you just trying to score points?

Anyway looks like all young kids will be getting vaccinated in Q1 2022.

Next stop – 3 and 4 year olds in mid-2022. That trial is about to conclude in the USA.

I have made it clear that I am thankful for the vaccines. They have clear net benefits in people over 50 and probably over 40, and at my age I am very pleased I am vaccinated but for 5 year olds? Show me the evidence Chris.
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November 3, 2021 12:17pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  This does fit into the “National does what Labour does, but better”, in this case.
  
  Why is it assumed that kids under 12 need to be vaccinated at all?
  If that becomes part of a mandate, then I expect even more social division.
  
  I haven’t been too pleased with Bishop as a Covid spokemen, in that the Nats ideas I heard from him are not really a point of difference to the current government strategy.
  
  Additionally it feeds in to the “National would have done the same thing” defence that some people make for the Labour response.
  How about….Set a date, and open up, regardless of vaccine rates. Personal choice & personal responsibility in vaccination. Focus on hospital capacity over social control…and just stick to these as a central point of difference?
  
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  November 3, 2021 12:59pm
- curry4me
  
  Benedict Yu: It might be a ab too far.
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:15pm
- Spenditb4theytaxit
  
  Benedict, will you be getting a booster jab?
  
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  November 3, 2021 4:02pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Yes definitely
    
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    November 3, 2021 7:19pm
- Warren
  
  Benedict Yu I enjoy reading your posts with the though you put into them.
  But I have to take issue with the way slag National and Chris Bishop off over this 11year olds down to 5year olds getting the Pilfer vaccine, it not that I agree with it because I don’t but for you now twice on this blog to criticize two MP’s for agreeing with this policy is just National bashing as David Seymour was the first to make statements on this subject , and guess not a word or critique from you on your Party being in agreement.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/10/coronavirus-david-seymour-says-govt-should-skip-medsafe-process-and-approve-vaccine-for-kids.html
  Now as I said before I enjoy reading your posts but maybe you shouldn’t show your bias and call out everyone that has preached on the same subject.
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:25pm
- Cinematic
  
  Yes, ridiculous from National who actually need to take a look at other places like, oh I dunno, the UK. Who’ve kicked this kids vaccination nonsense well into touch.
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:45pm
Taieri

Show me the evidence Chris
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There’s no need. The PM Herself stated that she’s the single and only Source of Truth.
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November 3, 2021 12:26pm
KevO'Brien

Are they going to withdraw the bad ones too?
https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-researchers-in-peer-reviewed-study-call-for-immediate-withdrawal-of-mrna-covid-vaccines-for-use-in-pregnancy-those-breastfeeding-those-of-childbearing-age-and-children/
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November 3, 2021 12:43pm
- ross.mc
  
  Well found Kev. I hope the powers that be have been made aware of this and will at least pause vaccination in those mentioned pending further investigation.
  
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  November 3, 2021 1:42pm
KevO'Brien

If we can’t trust these people are we stuck with our govt’s PR advisers-epidemiologist combo experts?
That’s not govt under the Bill of Rights.

https://thelibertydaily.com/internal-cdc-emails-show-why-they-changed-the-definition-of-vaccine-again/
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November 3, 2021 12:46pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Instead of changing the age-old definition of the word “vaccine” the CDC could have created a new definition for the current mRNA substance such as “pseudo vaccine”.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:16pm
ecco

I see there are protestors at Wanganui ready to greet our fairweather PM. She won’t like that. Imagine that going around the world on the internet. Hahahahaha. It’s called karma.
I’m predicting she will retreat to her Beehive bunker soon or escape overseas and leave Robo to face the music.
Get the popcorn out. These walkabouts should be very entertaining.
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November 3, 2021 12:52pm
- ecco
  
  Ardern has run away again due to the protesters ?.
  
  Get Stuffed doesn’t even have any coverage on this, only the Ferald. Get Stuffed is a total propaganda mouthpiece of Ardern’s.
  
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  November 3, 2021 1:22pm
  - kowtow
    
    Cue Monty Python skit;
    
    When danger reared it’s ugly head,
    She bravely turned her tail and fled.
    Yes, brave St Cindy turned about
    And gallantly she chickened out.
    Swiftly taking to her feet,
    She beat a very brave retreat.
    Bravest of the brave, St Cindy!
    
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    November 3, 2021 3:41pm
  - Spenditb4theytaxit
    
    If Fonganui can muster 250 protestors imagine the size of the mob that will show up when Cindy finally gets to Auckland.
    
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    November 3, 2021 4:04pm
- pussycat
  
  GB news take on our PM’s response to questions from the public.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAb4_PNvWA&t=6s&ab_channel=GBNews
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:40pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Left the Maori content out
    
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    November 3, 2021 6:56pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Escape? Yup, lots of activity at Whenuapai. C130s in and out – different ones. 757 was in Darwin the other day – why? Happening soon
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:46pm
ecco

Listened to Hipkins on Hoskings show. Gee Mike sure doesn’t mince his words. No wonder Ardern and co are scared to go on the show! Someone has to hold them to account.

I work in retail on a Saturday and can see that those vaccine passports are going to be another train wreck and yet another handbrake on retailers trying to make a recovery from the shambles of a covid response of Ardern’s government.

Expecting retailers to police customers with vaccine passports is going to turn to custard fairly quickly. We have violent, obnoxious and at times unhinged individuals (forgot to take their pills, on benefits, coming into the shop deliberately to shoplift etc) coming into the shop, who will never comply with a vaccine passport. And there is no way I’m going to confront any of these individuals if they don’t have a passport or for that matter a smartphone even.

Saturday’s are extremely busy and there’s no way you could ask every person coming through the door to show their ‘credentials’. If people have to queue out the door they are just going to walk off.

It’s clear none of Ardern, Hipkins and Robertson have ever worked in a business or retail or had any skin in the game with a live business. Retail workers are not going to put their personal safety on the line to do the dirty work for this government. I’m predicting this pie in the sky, vaccine passport gig is going to last about a week before it all goes out the window like the contact tracing has. Predictably many millions of taxpayers money will have gone down the drain developing it, just like the failed contract tracing system, the MIQ lottery debacle and any others Ardern has touched. They are just spraying money at anything and everything.
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November 3, 2021 1:03pm
Southern Raider

Ha ha ha

Jacinda abandons second media conference in two days
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November 3, 2021 1:09pm
- Fletch
  
  The media are saying it was 100 protesters. People who were there saying more like 300 people.
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  When is the next? Or is it disappearing to Europe to get married time?
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:47pm
Southern Raider

More and more each day the media is finally starting to peel back the empress’s new clothes

Most important task was PR spin rather than getting vaccines

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/kate-macnamara-new-zealands-vaccine-buying-and-the-pr-spend-that-shaped-what-we-know/Y7HLMNDEISQWCLGFGMOQUTZN2Q/
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November 3, 2021 1:21pm
ABS4EVA

LOOK at the Effectiveness of NOVAVAX

100% ok people

FFS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsP7JeT0lIw
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November 3, 2021 1:34pm
bythesea

Its funny how you can now find more realistic speech from the Russian premier-for-life than you can from the elected officials in NZ / UK / US

A video of Putin talking about the culture war in the West. You have to turn on subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45gV_0owJ20

Makes the excellent point that the Bolsheviks tried a whole lot of the new culture for progress thing back in the day.

Meanwhile we have NZ Pravda (govt propaganda) on every channel and newspaper
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November 3, 2021 1:46pm
Maggie Pie

Just watched the 1pm Covid briefing.
Silly me!
Here was I thinking a ‘mandate’ was when two gay guys met for dinner.
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November 3, 2021 1:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It is, and not against the Law. A friend told me
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:48pm
Mrs_Right

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/11/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-cancels-whanganui-vaccine-clinic-visit-as-hundreds-of-anti-vax-protestors-gather-outside.html

When the going gets tough she runs.
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November 3, 2021 2:14pm
- westernScientest
  
  half way though that is hilarious, some climate activist tries to get in on the action and some woman carrying a kit gives him a push and tells him to get out.
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Oma rapeti oma rapeti oma oma oma.
  She should comprehend that
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:51pm
- dcrane
  
  Only the media blowing smoke up her bum for so long has concealed her fundamental brittleness.
  
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  November 3, 2021 4:27pm
Maggie Pie

Cindy arrives in Tony’s hood of Wanganui 😀
Looks like a few ‘non-accredited members of the press’ turned up as well.

Check out some of the comments…amazing the Horrid allowed them. One of them is from my partner’s mum 😀

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1455685049978871813
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November 3, 2021 2:28pm
- westernScientest
  
  The media are keeping that very quite, hope Tony went down there and can give us a bit of a report. Quite pleased that everywhere she goes she is met with disdain now rather than admiration. Looking forward to Auckland… although I am sure it will be a complete theatre performance.
  
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  November 3, 2021 2:50pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I went for a drive past. The local media would have had a field day had the National Party been involved in today’s protest, so it was better to leave it to the anti-vaxxers, anti-Three Waters protesters, the Maori Party crew, Voices for Freedom with their professionally made billboards, and a few other malcontents. Ironically though, there were a number there who would normally protest any visiting National leader or MP, yet here they were venting their collective spleen at a Labour Prime Minister.
    
    I said last Wednesday when Mahuta’s mandated Three Waters decision was announced that it would be the day Labour lost the 2023 General Election. Today’s protest has underlined that, in bold!
    
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    November 3, 2021 3:25pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    I’m wondering if she’ll call the rest of the ‘tour” off and scuttle back to the protection of the mallard’s pond. Got to be a nuisance having to find short notice venues to give the MSM roadie entourage the gossip of the day given the exponential growth in daily protester numbers.
    
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    November 3, 2021 3:30pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  When she goes to Auckland, things will become REALLY interesting.
  
  Interesting to see the polarised comments on the link. Some people just assume ‘Anti-vax nutters’ when a sign says ‘Do not divide us’.
  No nuance in thinking there, but then the Twitter accounts often proclaim openly “I am a leftie”.
  One such commenter said it is funny how white people claim they face discrimination. (=The old racism-is-defined-by-power morally retarded CRT interpretation.)
  Poor observation skills to go with a weak mind. There are clearly brown faces there, and Tino Rangatiratanga flags.
  
  Leftie logic: call them white, because then their thoughts and feelings don’t matter.
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:02pm
Benedict Yu

Booster shots for everyone in NSW

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-records-177-covid-19-cases-one-death-on-eve-of-international-border-reopening-20211031-p594n6.html

The people here who were vaccinated early in the programme will need their booster shots now. Where are they?

Looks like this is just going to turn into a yearly vaccine like the flu vaccine.
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November 3, 2021 2:46pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yearly, but by Law then??
  
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  November 3, 2021 3:55pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t know what that means
    
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    November 3, 2021 7:21pm
graham

Jacinda Ardern, 22/09/2020:

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern went a step further, saying not only will there be no forced vaccinations, but those who choose to opt-out won’t face any penalties at all.

Jacinda Ardern, 03/11/2021:

Auckland’s hard border will stay in place over summer with only double vaxxed people allowed to escape the locked down city, according to the Prime Minister.

To be fair, the second article does say a bit later:

Jacinda Ardern told ZM’s Fletch, Vaughan and Meghan this morning that the Government was still working through the logistics of enabling Aucklanders to leave the city and visit friends and family for Christmas and over summer – but it would only apply to those who were double jabbed or had returned a test.

Get that? “… those who were double jabbed or had returned a test.” Which implies that even if you aren’t vaccinated, you could still get through if you return a test.

But then the article seems to contradict itself:

The issue to letting vaccinated Aucklanders leave wasn’t so much other regions reaching the 90 per cent target, but how they could manage 30,000 cars at a time trying to leave while checking they had returned a vaccine certificate and produced a negative Covid test before they did, she said.

So Aucklanders have to returned a vaccine certificate and produce a negative Covid test. Umm …

Isn’t it wonderful having such clear, unconfusing direction from the PM?!
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November 3, 2021 2:52pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  When you once begin to lie it becomes very difficult to remember which lies you told.
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:55pm
ABS4EVA

Aus COVID Rates are declining now
people are allowed outside more where they
can’t catch it

Sure the Vax is helping but
it is not the only factor
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November 3, 2021 3:00pm
westernScientest

more special people doing special things:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/126870606/more-than-100-vehicles-travel-in-procession-for-mongrel-mob-members-tangi
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November 3, 2021 3:19pm
- Prince
  
  Any chance Hone Hawira’s border control force could go national and protect Aotearoa for these gangsters ?
  Seems the Police are too busy stopping unpatched members of the public travelling 60 kph in a 50 kph area in light traffic, and delivering 10 minute lectures on the need to stay within the speed limits, along with imposing a further tax on whitey.
  
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  November 3, 2021 6:10pm
- fernglas
  
  Is it so surprising that the Mongrel Mob, whose entire ethos is based around them NOT doing what they’re told, have ramped up the size and visibility of their tangi to give their disobedience maximum coverage? Memo to the press; these people are trash and just love you putting their pictures in the paper.
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:57pm
WaveyDavey

For those who may be interested the new improved resurgence payment – $3k a fortnight – will be in place until Auckland enters the traffic light system
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November 3, 2021 3:34pm
Grant

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/covid-19/covid-19-delta-outbreak-aucklands-border-to-remain-over-summer-may-only-open-to-the-double-vaccinated/

But seriously, how the hell is this going to be enforced?
Can you imagine the queues as people wait to get their “papers” inspected? Can you imagine the mood of those waiting? Even worse the mood of those turned back for whatever reason?
This is the tipping point and if she tries to enforce this there will be trouble .
Forget it Ardern!! You had one job and you failed us so get out of the way and make sure take your motley crew of halfwits and media sycophants with you .
You’ve broken this country and you need to shuffle off before the damage becomes irreperable.

Heed the words of Oliver Cromwell, (somewhat rearranged…)
“It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice.
Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government…..
Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance…..
Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!
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November 3, 2021 3:45pm
greybeard

Mongrel Mob: 100
NZ Police: 0
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November 3, 2021 3:56pm
Maggie Pie

CNBC…..
94% counted.
Elephants leading the Donkeys by nearly 100k.
All quiet on the Kiwi-left 😀
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November 3, 2021 4:09pm
- dcrane
  
  They get to count until 5 Nov. If it ends up close enough we can expect shenanigans with “found” boxes of mailed-in ballots.
  
  Still a yuuuge night for the deplorables.
  
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  November 3, 2021 4:26pm
  - Batman
    
    Gotta line up your insurance policy huh DC? ?
    
    Elections are trustworthy now that you’re winning one, so all good mate!
    
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    November 3, 2021 5:23pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  ……only WINNERS dance 😀 😀 😀
  
  https://twitter.com/irishkev85/status/1455729628304351236
  
  MAGA!!
  
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  November 3, 2021 5:20pm
Leofric

I gather Ardern took fright and ran away from another press conference today.
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November 3, 2021 4:24pm
ABS4EVA

I say there are going to be 2 classes of people

One Labour Lab Rats and
2
People who took NOVAVAX

The arrogance of that Woman is only
matched by her stupidity
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November 3, 2021 5:10pm
Fletch

It’s 3 hours but worth a watch. Sen Ron Johnson holds a roundtable on vaccine mandates and injuries. Worth noting that no representatives of govt policy or from Pfizer who were invited showed up. Some of the injured tell their stories, including some who participated in the vaccine trials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepqvdXoA2E
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November 3, 2021 5:26pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Thanks for that link Fletch.
  
  I didn’t watch the whole thing but watched enough of it to get the general idea. Those that have been turned off by the length of the video can do what I did and learn.
  
  It is really worth watching some of it. Please do.
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:45pm
Maggie Pie

OMG!!
Things must really be turning to shite out there 😀

The Horrid reporting ClarkE is preparing the WEDDING MENU

Main course….FISH OF THE DAY
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November 3, 2021 5:52pm
WaveyDavey

WTAF Jimmy Shaw got the f*cking date wrong
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November 3, 2021 6:07pm
Prince

Maiki Sherman must be the dumbest reporter around. Insisting that the Government prioritise Maori when they finally get around to delivering a booster shot.
How would that work ?
Would Maori be offered a booster after, say 4 months, whereas pakeha get theirs after 8 months ? Is there any medical sense in that ?
Maybe logic and science go out gthe window, so ,long as Maori get some sort of “priority”.
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November 3, 2021 6:14pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Dumbest? She has some pretty stiff competition!
  
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  November 3, 2021 10:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Dear PM isn’t taking these protests personally..
said she wasn’t taking the protest personally and was not surprised by it.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/454836/pm-jacinda-ardern-we-have-not-taken-lightly-the-decision-for-some-areas-to-require-vaccination

I suspect she’s lying… because if she wasn’t taking them personally, she’d hang about and listen to folks’ concerns and even debate with them.

And if she’s not surprised by the protests, why did she cancel the Hunterville visit?
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November 3, 2021 7:01pm
- Cinematic
  
  Judging by her body language she takes everything personally.
  
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  November 3, 2021 7:24pm
info@cruzpro.com

Jacinda Ardern today:

“We have been very clear, we will not require nor will we ever require vaccine certificates to access food, government benefits, access services that people need to live.”

So we can continue to get the benefit but “no jab, no job” still exists.

So having a job is not something that you need to live?
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November 3, 2021 7:19pm
Maggie Pie

Been home by myself all day.

Anyone else like me tired of hearing about this guy Carl Hayman?
Radio, newspapers, telly….. non -stop. SHEESH!!
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November 3, 2021 7:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Lordy..

Now you’ll have to make a booking to escape Auckland…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/11/coronavirus-government-considering-allocating-time-slots-for-aucklanders-to-leave-region-over-summer.html

Perhaps our Dear PM has forgotten that she promised citizens vast privileges (aka normal rights) if they endured months of lockdown and got themselves vaxxed.
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November 3, 2021 7:49pm
- fernglas
  
  Thanks for that Maggy. I love having just one great thigh-slapping piece of Kiwi stupidity to go with my morning coffee, although the competition is pretty intense at the moment, and this looks like it.
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:00pm
- graham
  
  And remember, this is the same Jacinda Ardern that in September last year, said that there will be no forced vaccinations, and those who choose to opt-out won’t face any penalties at all.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/coronavirus-jacinda-ardern-confident-enough-kiwis-will-get-covid-19-vaccine-for-herd-immunity-without-being-forced-to.html
  
  And the worst part of this? Apparently this was in response to “conspiracy theorists” who were claiming that a vaccine would be “forced” on everyone – including Kiwis.
  
  Gee, those conspiracy theorists come up with some mad stuff, don’t they?
  
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  November 3, 2021 8:13pm
Fletch

A health worker from Adelaide –

“The hospitals are not full of Covid patients. The hospitals are full of vaccinated patients. I’ve got friends who work at ICU at Flinders[?]. Thirty out of 38 patients currently are vaccinated. That is a fact. [I’m seeing] 20 year olds that have dropped dead. Nothing is getting on the media. Myocarditis is a rare condition. All of a sudden every 3rd 20 year old has myocarditis? [We’re probably losing] two and a half thousand nurses in South Australia alone [because of the mandate]. Are you hearing ambulances all the time? Sirens? That’s the vaccine injured. This is Adelaide. We’re a small city. You don’t get ambulances every hour. […] You cannot produce a safe vaccine in 4 to 6 months. Why [are they rolling out vaccines for kids before America] in Australia? Why New Zealand? Are we the testing ground?”

https://www.facebook.com/SteveMaher01/videos/423329689506436
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November 3, 2021 7:50pm
- fernglas
  
  In SA there are currently no Covid cases in hospital or ICU. So these 38 are there for other reasons than Covid. Given the level of vaccination in SA, it is not statistically odd that 30 out of 38 people in ICU should be vaccinated.
  How many 20 year olds have dropped dead? And of those, how many did she see?
  Does “every third 20 year old” have myocarditis?
  I call bullshit on what she was saying, but, Fletch, I invite you to dig out the stats to support it. I’m sure the parents of the many thousands of kids with myocarditis, and the large number who have inexplicably dropped dead after vaccination would welcome proper confirmation that doesn’t come from a shrieking motor-mouth on a picket line..
  
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  November 3, 2021 9:23pm
ecco

I see the Ferald has removed all the comments from the article on Hipkins announcing there might be time slots allocated to Aucklanders to get out of Auckland over xmas. There were around 119 comments earlier in the evening all calling BS on Hipkins latest clusterfuck idea. Some comments had 250+ up votes. This is further evidence that Ardern and co are in complete control of the Ferald editorial decisions. Nothing $55m can’t buy.
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