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November 20, 2021 11:00am by David Farrar

Erica Stanford profile

Andrea Vance has a good profile of National MP Erica Stanford. Worth a read.

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kevn

Held my nose and read it.
“Nationals limited pool of talent?” Really?
Lets look at labour… not much to see is there?
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November 20, 2021 11:13am
- David Garrett
  
  Nothing Andrea Vance writes is “worth reading”…she is a relentless enemy of the right of politics. Anything positive in that piece is her holding her nose and writing something which supposedly demonstrates her balance.
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:36pm
  - Harriet
    
    It doesn’t really matter who it is David.
    
    Tova ‘I’d like to report I’ve been awarded my journalism degree’ O’brien, is just another of the totally ignorant numbskulls that put pen to paper these days. Or by tax payers remuneration don’t!!
    
    They are all so up them selves they would make tedious issue daily over writing being fun – or fun being writing.
    
    Up until the point the public got so bored with them – they would refuse to pay – and their places of work would go broke – and they would all then receive welfare payments!
    
    They need to investigate journalism instead of reporting on it! 😎
    
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    November 20, 2021 12:59pm
  - Blackbob
    
    The same Andrea Vance who was leading Peter Dunne around by the small head…
    
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    November 20, 2021 1:51pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Blackbob: Yes indeed…After meeting and talkinging to him on a few occasions I never much rated Dunne…but I never thought he was dumb enough to think that conniving bitch was actually interested in him…proof I guess that there’s no fool like an old one.
      
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      November 20, 2021 2:10pm
  - Russ the Muss
    
    It’s positive because Stanford is a female and in intersectionality world that these cretins inhabit, her gender can mitigate her poor choice in politics, of which is further reinforced in the article by her inferring that Stanford wants the system changed (bad patriarcal westminister system) and works with two other females in the green and labour parties, for me it’s the sisterhood looking after one another.
    Stanford is a hard worker and solid, but doesn’t have the spine nor vision for leadership. A Snr minister is her best hope and that might be a stretch. My hunch is she is a bit of a lightweight. But she is a centrist, liberal female so the media will root for her as the best of a bad bunch on the right.
    
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    November 20, 2021 7:37pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yes, virtually every Nat MP would be high fliers if they were stupid enough to be in Labour
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:59pm
Benedict Yu

She sounds great. They should make her the leader.

Honestly I’m not kidding. Do something. I like Judith but as the Taiwanese say “Man who waits for roast duck to fly into his mouth must wait a very, very long time.” ?
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November 20, 2021 11:16am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  BY – Jacinda can wait for duck to fly into her mouth and Sheeple will give her all the time in the world. Otherwise how do you explain Labour at 41% still after all their non-delivery?
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:21pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not anymore they wont
    
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    November 20, 2021 1:00pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  She’s a very good MP BY, but not ready for the leadership. Her time will come though.
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:47pm
  - gorse
    
    Tony, why is Shane Reti ignored as a possible leader?
    
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    November 20, 2021 12:51pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      I’m not sure he wants to be leader.
      
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      November 20, 2021 1:23pm
    - kevn
      
      @gorse… Reti is so competent I worry about him being overworked. Best he save some of himself for himself.
      
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      November 20, 2021 3:58pm
    - igm
      
      Andrew Bayly is tthe best bet by a country mile.
      
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      November 20, 2021 5:35pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The place could be a smoking ruin by then.
    
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    November 20, 2021 1:03pm
  - pdm
    
    Doing goodwork on immigration – making Faa’foi look the incompetent he is.
    
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    November 20, 2021 1:05pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      You’re spot on with the first point pdm; she has done a fantastic job representing families separated by Faafoi’s indifference and apathy. On the second point, it probably doesn’t take a lot to make Faafoi look incompetent, to be fair 😉
      
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      November 20, 2021 1:25pm
      - Bridgenag
        
        I was told by the blokes at bowls ……….Took the bro’s money and looked after the properties on their behalf. Nice little earner
        
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        November 20, 2021 1:55pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Darkly cynical NZer says virtue signalling career trougher who waits for taxpayer dollars to flow into her trough get very rich.
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:56pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  Erica is my local MP. My kids went to school with her so I got know the family. They are good people. Erica is real leadership material even at this stage. She would easily take Cindy on. No comparison with their intellectual abilities. Cindy is a lite weight.
  
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  November 20, 2021 1:39pm
- Ra Henare
  
  I would rather the deputy be promoted.
  Currently he is almost invisible PR wise
  
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  November 20, 2021 10:19pm
agent

Was all sounding so good untill she supported school climate strikes. Then you realise she is another patron of “the swamp”.

Media grooming her to try yet again attempt to remove Collins. She’s woke enough to be accepted to media as they sense wheels falling off Labour beyond their control to cover up.
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November 20, 2021 11:31am
- andrewo
  
  Exactly!
  
  “She also has a passion for conservation, believes National could again work with the Greens, and went against the grain in supporting school climate strikes.”
  
  That makes her a bloody fool in my mind
  
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  November 20, 2021 1:27pm
  - spanish_tudor
    
    On the contrary, I’d love to see National go with the Greens in order to destroy them. It would be the kiss of death they should have had years ago.
    
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    November 20, 2021 3:00pm
ronsegal

From the article, Erica’s preference for positioning as the brains behind the leadership, is commendable in it’s focus of making things happen, but am less comfortable that some of her ideals at least appear as though they could be said to fall into the category of ‘woke’, much like Christopher Luxton’s [Luxon’s]. Whereas a party is needed that is dead set on one nation called New Zealand, one team, one law for all.
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November 20, 2021 11:40am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Luxy boy as National leader will ensure there is no National party in 3 years time.
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:22pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Yep, the Neil Kinnock of NZ politics anointment will finish my interest in the National Party for me after probably fifty years.
    
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    November 20, 2021 1:31pm
    - Ruawai
      
      Same I don’t like Luxon as leader.
      
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      November 20, 2021 1:51pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Not so sure you are right about Luxon, much like Key, when he became leader he was driven by what was right for the country, not just leftie bullshit, every time i have heard Luxon speak, i have yet to hear him suggest his leftie ideas, Erica sadly is great potential, but she is an out and out greenie, i am worried about that, she will have to put that aside, or Nats will only lose more support
  
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  November 20, 2021 1:04pm
krazykiwi

Climate nonsense aside, she belongs in ACT. National needs to be hollowed out relentlessly until the message is clear: Carrying water for the Left makes National part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
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November 20, 2021 12:00pm
- Harriet
  
  I don’t know so much.
  
  “…Her work has made her something of a hero in ethnic communities – electorates are clamouring for her to visit. And one MP said: “Every time I get in an Uber they ask about Erica.”…..”
  
  From pre-natal healthcare, post- natal, baby bonus……., primary education…….. and through to the end of secondary education.
  
  That’s at least $200,000.00 of tax payers money spent on every child born in NZ………by the ‘village to bring up the child’;
  
  And then the young kiwi adult hears these immortal kiwi words:
  
  “You are only starting out…..you earn more later on in life…….but you need WFF welfare payments”
  
  Why? —- “Me want job, me want job, me got job me got job.”
  
  Seymore doesn’t have time for lowest common denominators —-it’s why ACT exists —- it is increasingly taking votes from the Nat/Lab center —- a lowest common denominator!
  
  English is back to being of value instead of a currency — just ask John Key!! 😎
  
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  November 20, 2021 12:25pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I can not see how that Act have taken support from Nats for quite some time, Nats were 28% in this weeks poll, 3 % higher than they were on election night, from what i can see, they are only taking support from the rotten Labour party, as they are the only parliamentary party that to lose votes from election night is Labour, some 13 seats from what i can see
    
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    November 20, 2021 1:08pm
- igm
  
  Bit worth a blurt . . . close to wokeness.
  
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  November 20, 2021 5:36pm
Im Right

National will stay around the 30% mark until they come out with policy that clearly defines a difference between National and Labour! A difference that is not merely ‘we will repeal’ a Labour policy/law but something that has a clear line in the sand from Labour and decidedly right of political spectrum otherwise ACT will just continue to canniblise National voters and if they cannot sway Labours soft voters then 2023 is Labours for the taking.
(Although maybe Arden not leader, she doesn’t do well, mentally, when not adored)
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November 20, 2021 12:14pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  305 and ACT at 17% would win the election
  
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  November 20, 2021 1:10pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Erica Stanford is no match for a high performing MP like Twyford. Moving on…
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November 20, 2021 12:23pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I missed the part in the article where is said she had been lobotomised by year three students on the beach as part of a science project . . .
  
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  November 20, 2021 1:34pm
Cassandra

She’s not ACT, krazy, more Labour Lite. If she can harden up – we’re not playing tiddlywinks here – she might be an asset. The other side is playing for keeps. We must too. No more Mr(s) Niceguy.
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November 20, 2021 12:31pm
- Harriet
  
  “….If she can harden up – we’re not playing tiddlywinks here – she might be an asset. The other side is playing for keeps. We must too….”
  
  Supreme commander of socialism in the south pacific – Dan Andrews – was going to literally ‘rail road’ an already reliant NZ – into an even weaker position.
  
  And that’s just Dan Andrews.
  
  The ignorance is within.
  
  Yes it is certainly going to harden up alright, for one reason, India is very democratic and religious also, depth and breadth.
  
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  November 20, 2021 1:15pm
- ronsegal
  
  Have to say that my worry about National is that right now they more generally appear to be ‘Labour Lite’, except far more dangerous in their ability to actually deliver destructive globalist policies, aside that is from the ongoing, unhinged, Labour led, Maori-activist driven, new order power grab.
  
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  November 20, 2021 6:53pm
Jack5

Vance writes of Stanford:

“She is uncomfortable with the adversarial nature of the Westminster system.”

Which “non-adversial” democratic systems does Stanford like? Are there any?
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November 20, 2021 12:57pm
- ronsegal
  
  Exactly. Democracy is characterised by getting into a room and having a damn good ding dong at one another, though that doesn’t mean that the players can’t be amicable to one another after the game … eye gouging aside.
  
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  November 20, 2021 6:58pm
Jack5

Whoops!

Edit: Which “non-adversarial” democratic systems does Stanford like? Are there any?
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November 20, 2021 2:13pm
greenjacket

I have spoken with her a few times about an issue. She is hard working and very well informed, is quite reserved but strong, and one if the stronger National MPs. She is the de facto Minister of Immigration since Faafoi has checked out and no longer bothers. She’ll make a good deputy.
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