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peterwn

Seems Commerce Commission has no coordinated policy on cartels, monopolies, etc. They are suggesting that grocery and produce suppliers should be able to collectively bargain (ie a cartel) against the two big bad supermarket groups.
But they clobbered real estate agents who discussed collective action against Trademe, who having gained dominance in the real estate advertising area, significantly increased charges. All the agents wanted to do was ‘unbundle’ these fees from their usual advertising packages.
Similarly with landlords. CC warned them that they were not to act collectively with regard to rent etc.
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July 30, 2021 8:01am
- kowtow
  
  Yip , they’re all patting themselves on the back over a report pointing out the bleedin’ obvious ,that was probably produced at great cost , when a couple of secondary school economics pupils could have done it for less and much quicker.
  
  I look forward to gubmint ministers attacking Air NZ’s high prices and effective monopoly on domestic air travel and floating the idea of setting up a second and third airline , to compete with the gubmint owned monopoly……
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:19am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    This is the same government that increased the excise TAX on petrol, yes jacinda it is a TAX and introduced the regional fuel TAX in Auckland, yes jacinda that is a new TAX.
    
    Then promptly announced that we were being fleeced at the pump by who, oh yes the big fuel companies, then announced an investigation that went know where.
    
    The warehouse tried to move into groceries and was actively shut out. The people they wanted to compete against were bigger and started buying them out to shut them down.
    
    So no state, local body monopolies will not be touched, let alone looked at.
    
    Big duopolies will carry on business as usual.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:19am
- cmm
  
  The state decides what price controls are OK.
  
  If bakeries all got together and set a minimum price for bread, that would apparently be a problem.
  Same too if doctors, dentists, banks or real estate agents did that for their services.
  
  But when the state sets a minimum price for a worker’s time, that’s fine.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:24am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    It’s a distraction, get people to look at something else blame other people anything to take attention away from the inevitable rise of the one party socialist state, until it is to late.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:23am
    - Akarak
      
      Sound familiar!
      “Typically, such leaders’ playbooks involve a combination of: nationalizing key industries and running them into the ground; imposing a centrally planned economy which inevitably fails to provide the promised growth and prosperity; the seizure and redistribution of land and other property, with all the attendant social as well as economic turmoil; government involvement with criminal enterprises that prosper from the cultivation, movement and/or sale of drugs.”
      – These comments on the future of Peru under their new socialist (communist) leader could be said to mirror the future of a small nation in the South Pacific.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:40am
- BeeJay
  
  I remember when the establishment of a Commerce Commission was first mooted. It was driven by a belief that the major oil companies were price fixing and should be investigated! How has that worked for consumers? If I’m not mistaken there has never been a case taken against Oil Companies for price fixing! The reason given these days as to why there is no longer a need to investigate oil companies is because of the growth of independent fuel outlets like Challenge, Gull etc! Really? It’s just too hard for CC! It’s easier to go for the relatively small fry businesses that Peterwn has mentioned, and I remember a small group of car dealers for “price fixing” in the 90s trying to at least make minimal margins on new vehicles. (Probably not a lot of sympathy for them?)
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:41am
  - Nickc2
    
    These investigations into commerce are nothing more than diversion tactics. Quick, looky over here!
    I’m doing this to help you.
    
    Meanwhile, Maori gangs are still peddling drugs to our kids while we subsidise their activities FFS.
    WE’RE SICK PUPPIES!
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:29am
- Surely Knott
  
  Where do the liquor trusts fit in to all this. The two liquor trusts of west auckland Portage and Waitakere have joined together and jointly contracted all their business in perpetuity to WATS ltd so their is one monopolistic supplier with all the business and a seperate set of unelected directors who can set prices. Creating higher prices and a monopoly that covers the entirety of west auckland. And no other small business can start a business or bid for a contract with either Portage or Waitakere trust.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:17am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Reason #6759 why West Auckland is a S***hole.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:27am
westernScientest

Have only had a chance to skim it, Pfizer contract with Albania – whats a bet ours is a carbon copy:

https://gogo.al/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/LEXO-KONTRATEN-E-PLOTE.pdf

A few goodies in there, hopefully someone used to reading contracts here has time to go though it properly and report back things of interest.
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July 30, 2021 8:04am
- cmm
  
  Pfizer probably employ more lawyers than chemists.
  
  Everything is set up to protect Pfizer and no doubt they have everyone over a barrel so anyone that does not accept their terms will not get supplied.
  
  But you can’t have it both ways. Pfizer would not have got insurance cover without a long trial period (many years). If you want the vaccine immediately then they need the indemnities.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:34am
  - Inandout
    
    cmm, our government has waived any chance of law suits.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:00am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Our contract will be a state secret.
  
  Who would sign a one sided all care no responsibility contract.
  
  Somebody who does not want to pay a premium to be first off the rank.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:31am
  - sooty
    
    It will be as secert as the NZ First agreement with labour!
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:07am
mandk

Can you imagine a supermarket chain run by the government?

It would be like Pak n Save, only nowhere near as flash.
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July 30, 2021 8:04am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The government has no place in running enterprises such as supermarkets, unless of course we’re talking about the government of Venezuela…
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:07am
  - pdm
    
    That seems to be the governments aim – get New Zealand down to the levels attained by Zimbabwe and Venezuela
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:26am
  - G152
    
    Tony
    Not far off that mindset sadly.
    liebor isn’t just a misspelling it’s becoming a way of life
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:28am
  - MCos
    
    The government here does run most of the hospitals.
    I haven’t been to a private hospital here in NZ, but most of us know what the public ones are like either from as patients or visitors.
    Basic, efficient and functional has been my experience, and in the case of my daughter & her baby, life saving.
    Some people say less than functional. I wouldn’t know about that.
    In Bangkok most of the hospitals are businesses and the better ones, where the staff speak English are quite competitive so they’re not like our ones.
    The one near us had a pianist in the atrium, fridges in the waiting rooms with free (non-alcoholic) drinks. When I had a hip replacement my wife could sleep on a sofa right there. The ward was like Grand Central Station in the middle of the night.
    I’ve seen pictures of government run supermarkets in communist countries. If we had them here going to buy your groceries would be even more tedious than what it already is.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:55am
  - alan
    
    There already is a third choice and its growing fast. It’s called FoodBank.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:30am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    I have a name.
    
    We can call it Kiwisave.
    
    Prices so cheap nobody wants to supply them, empty shelves and ques out the door and down the street.
    
    Need help call the help line, on hold all day.
    
    You call is important to us please hold until it is no longer important to you.
    
    Kiwifuel, cheap fuel when it is available and you a community services card. Other people can pay a premium on the black market.
    
    The perfect socialist nirvana.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:38am
    - Akarak
      
      Click and Collect would be replaced with Click and Wait.
      
      Clark’s statement is further acknowledgement that this government does not understand simple economics. It’s bloody scary!!!
      No doubt we will soon have a new government department monitoring our shopping and removing products from our basket at the checkout that do not meet the requirements as stated under Article 666a ‘Products failing to meet the Criteria Of the Affordability Act 2022’.
      This Act will be introduced as a measure to help you save yourself from undisciplined misappropriation of your government issued benefit and to meet the guidelines as laid out in your personalised Ration Card (Form 12-606-34a) as supplied by the Department of Household Spending.
      Non-vaccinated citizens will still need to continue to get approval to enter any mall, shopping centre or supermarket by phoning 0800 65 438 (0800 LOSER).
      
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      July 30, 2021 11:05am
  - tf78
    
    I remember initial photos coming out of Venezuela showing the only thing left on the supermarket shelves was tomato sauce.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:11am
    - alloytoo
      
      Rest of the products playing “Ketchup”?
      
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      July 30, 2021 11:07am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Kiwisupermarket sounds cute
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:09am
  - Maggie's partner
    
    Surely KiwiSave?
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:24am
    - Batman
      
      ‘KindMart’ is probably more on brand these days.
      
      Shudder at the thought
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:06am
  - Paulus
    
    Nah !
    AotearoaMarket
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:33am
  - Swifty
    
    CindyMart!
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:44am
  - jacob
    
    Kiwimart – everyday low prices & empty shelves
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:44am
  - tf78
    
    Suze, no need for “Super” anymore.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:12am
- westernScientest
  
  I would suspect something like this, except with less bread:
  https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r7v4L8RqYR4/XOl0HhNEt1I/AAAAAAADhu8/S1jbHUpxjFo9HfuHn4mH66V050fVpUTXACLcBGAs/s1600/ussr-22.jpg
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:11am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I had a Polish colleague who lived under Soviet communism. That picture literally equates to what he described about bakeries. Most shelves empty most of the time!
    
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    July 31, 2021 5:20pm
- igm
  
  Can you imagine any business operated by this disgusting apology for a government?
  Leeching unions would call the shots, taxpayers would be propping up their inefficiences, and many suppliers would refuse to deal with them.
  There being nothing worse to deal with than a public servant with a bit of authority . . . they are no different to the mob currently masquerading as our government. Distasteful incompetent losers.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:13am
  - Paulus
    
    But the Labour voters, principally shopping supermarket women, will love it whatever she does.
    Cannot see anything intelligent coming out of it less another major supermarket – Aldi believe New Zealand too small to come here.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:36am
  - MCos
    
    A number a businesses are run by the government
    Don’t have to imagine.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:05am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    Supplier’s will be forced to supply at government mandated prices.
    
    Then nationalised when they can’t.
    
    The run by your incompetent losers, bureaucrats.
    
    And we become the banana Republic of the South Pacific.
    
    But fear not everyone will be equally poor and happy by decree from dear leader saint jacinda.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:44am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It would be like a PaknSave in the midst of the COVID lockdown: hard to enter and little to purchase.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:14am
  - mandk
    
    Yes, you would probably need to wait for a message telling you it was your turn to make an appointment to shop.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:19am
    - igm
      
      It would caption all goods in te lingo . . . that would send me off immediately.
      
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      July 30, 2021 8:42am
      - MCos
        
        Presumably then you refuse to buy kiwi fruit, manuka honey, kūmara . . . .
        Not to mention yoghurt, muesli and all the other stuff with foreign names
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:52am
    - Swifty
      
      And ration coupons!
      
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      July 30, 2021 8:45am
    - kowtow
      
      Look on the bright side , no one will steal the trolleys , cos the wheels won’t work.
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:05am
      - tf78
        
        We won’t need trolleys because we won’t be allowed that much food. Bread, milk and dripping only.
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:19am
      - Batman
        
        Dripping? What is this, 1972?
        
        No, that will be replaced by canola oil.
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:20am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      I think we can agree that this government doesn’t do appointments well, they are much better at ques and waiting lists, the longer, the better and more successful you are.
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:49am
    - The Housekeeper
      
      Reminds me of 1981 Moscow. I went shopping for a fur hat in the GUM dept store. After queueing for 30 mins or so on a quiet day, I made my selection but rather than a hat I was handed a chit and directed to the cashier. I then had to take a number and wait to be called to pay. All
      good, the surroundings were sumptuous, the staff were most attentive and I was amused by imaginings of my friend’s face when I returned from my 3 week Soviet sojourn with his much requested hat. After 30 mins or so in a little gilded chair, I was finally called to the cashier. Upon payment, I was handed yet another chit and told to present it in 3 months time when my hat would be ready.
      
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      July 30, 2021 11:05am
  - Nickc2
    
    With the Govt’s Food Nazis as Category Managers (Purchasing Officers) there will be stuff all choices and stuff all competition.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:31am
    - Paulus
      
      And Corruption.
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:53am
  - MCos
    
    You should’ve come to the one near us Kev.
    No queues and full shelves, except flour.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:09am
- peterwn
  
  Remember Shoprite? However they sold dry groceries only (no milk, meat or produce).
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:17am
  - igm
    
    See how long they lasted! And they were run by experienced businesspeople. The only one in this line-up of unemployables who has business experience is Parker . . . he went under in good trading times.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:44am
    - peterwn
      
      There was an outfit called Selfhelp. First shop was near Wellington Station and founders were NZR employees who had the hard word put on them to either quit moonlighting or leave NZR (they chose the latter). It got ultimately absorbed into Foodstuffs. One day a Selfhelp checkout woman asked the duty manager to help with packing. He said the customers should pack their own goods. “What do you think this” she retorted “Shopright?”
      
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      July 30, 2021 12:02pm
  - Inandout
    
    peter, and 3GUYs. They really started the price wars with the duopoly players and as a result was followed by Paknsave and the barn type displays.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:58am
- kowtow
  
  Trial run already held during lockdown . Queues around the block ,empty shelves , angry shoppers and security guards.
  
  Jacindamart.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:24am
  - igm
    
    Do not forget the extra business for Halal butcheries that were given the Ok to open when our own butcheries were ordered to close.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:20am
    - MCos
      
      I remember you grizzled about one in Palmy so I checked it out.
      It was part of a specialist supermarket of which there are any number around Auckland. For example there are three Chinese supermarkets along DominionRd and another New North Rd. that we went to during the lockdown. They sell stuff not usually found at mainstream supermarkets plus butchers and fish that you would.
      
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      July 30, 2021 5:56pm
  - oldfella
    
    Kowtow, if a Jacindamart was run by Indians would it be known as a ‘Jacindamarty’? 🙂
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:43am
- Benedict Yu
  
  The Pak n Save in Christchurch is amusing. It is only 300 metres from the flashest New World in Christchurch and its like shopping in different country.
  
  My advice to anyone wanting to save money on shopping. Avoid all supermarkets as much as possible. You can’t do it entirely.
  
  For cleaning products buy them in bulk at mitre 10.
  
  For veges and fruit find a good food and vege place. Find one in a poor suburb in a rundown building. I found one and show them loyalty.
  
  Find a couple of good Indian and Asian food shops.
  
  Find a good butcher and fish monger.
  
  Yes shopping will take longer.
  
  If people are buying dishwasher tablets, milk and rice from a flash new world in rich suburb they have only themselves to blame.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:24am
  - pdm
    
    Dishwasher tablets from Crackerjacks – very good value.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:27am
  - Inandout
    
    BY, and if you lucky enough to have vege growers’ shops near the savings are amazing. New World brocolli $5.49 each, local grower $2. Lettuce NW $4,99, local grower $1.50, tomatoes NW $14.99kg, local vege shop $7.95kg.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:28am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Exactly. Shutting down these food suppliers during the level 4 lockdown was criminal.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:43am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    The very same small businesses that this government hates with a passion.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:51am
- cmm
  
  I think you’re all being cruel.
  
  Cindy has retail experience. Of course she could run a supermarket chain!
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:36am
  - igm
    
    Like Cunliffe set up Fonterra!
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:46am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    She knows how to count pieces of fish up to 6.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:36am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      Does she have 6 fingers on one hand?
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:53am
      - igm
        
        I heard after a long period of time she could not handle Eftpos and had trouble with change. Imagine her working in a shop (or a bar especially) in the old days when one had to add up in the head, and God help if the total or change were incorrect.
        
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        July 30, 2021 4:24pm
  - tf78
    
    cmm, I wonder who will run the Enquiries Department.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:22am
- Inandout
  
  man, the outcome would be compulsory shopping at GUM type stores for the non cafe crowd. Labour elites could still shop in ‘Beryozka’ stores.
  
  ‘The most obvious category of Beryozka shoppers were the elites, whose prestigious jobs in the Communist Party gave them the right to travel to abroad and sometimes even to earn money there. Among these were civil servants such as diplomats and military officers, but also Soviet celebrities such as athletes, musicians and cultural attaches, who were carefully chosen to represent the USSR abroad’.
  I remember once going into the David Jones store in Wellington and was struck by the few number of shoppers. I asked an assistant why and she said ‘we deal mainly with public servants and university staff’.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:38am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, they would make it compulsory (or highly pressured) so that people do the “right thing”. We have plenty examples:
    * Kids being pressured to eat school lunches over home made lunches.
    * The treatment of charter schools.
    * Feebate schemes to force EVs down our throats.
    
    No doubt it would be made highly challenging to use non-state supermarkets.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:36am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Kiwimart, set up and managed by (druuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum roll) Twyford!
  
  What could go wrong!?
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:44am
- The Goblin
  
  And a minimum of six staff per checkout..
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:09am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Machine learning will make it easier to automate groceries packing and delivery within next few years (Amazon like technology) – which will provide a cheaper option for getting food to consumers without need for large expensive highly staffed premises. Bricks and mortar based monopoly powers will diminish
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:28pm
- Bob
  
  Based on the Soviet Union model but with even less on the shelves.
  The Union elite of course, would shop at the GUM store on the square.
  
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  July 30, 2021 4:36pm
Tony Stuart

Michael Field is well known as a journalist in the South Pacific who isn’t afraid to butt heads with officials and governments. He tweeted this late yesterday:

Michael Field @MichaelFieldNZ

Fiji is a small place. Identity of person being flown to New Zealand for Covid treatment is widely speculated on, with one in particular favoured. It accurate, it will be an astonishing political scandal in NZ. Government needs to fess up urgently.

4:48 PM · Jul 29, 2021

https://twitter.com/MichaelFieldNZ/status/1420607083381084161

So just who is this WHO/UN person who has been flown to New Zealand in a private jet for ICU treatment? Is she known to any member of the current Government?

And probably the most important question; if any staff member at Middlemore Hospital tests positive to Covid-19 as a result of the decision to fly in a delta-variant-positive patient, will the Prime Minister, Minister of Health and Minister of Covid Recovery resign?
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July 30, 2021 8:05am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Resignations? Nah, Helen Clark will just make sure her phone calls to Jacinda really are secret
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:12am
- Paulus
  
  I see the aircraft registration was a New Zealand one.
  Somebody paid for the private charter – us ?
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:38am
  - Batman
    
    All costs are met in full by the UN, evidently. It’s their cost under some health treaty or other.
    
    NZ is first port of call for medevac cases from the islands as we’re closer than Fiji.
    
    The private jet company was quoted in the stuff article last night too.
    
    There’s no hidden plots here.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:58am
    - Tarquin North
      
      Are you reporting live from the ninth floor?
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:23am
      - Batman
        
        Not since 2017 ?
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:38am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      We’re closer to Fiji than Fiji is? A batty comment if ever there was one.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:24am
      - Batman
        
        Oh fuck hahaha, I meant closer to Fiji than Australia is.
        
        Sorry!
        
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        July 30, 2021 12:15pm
- I remember when
  
  Fiji:
  Wasn’t it great to see the Fijian sevens teams celebrating their Gold medals.
  I am surprised that it took them so long to remove their masks and hug anything available to be hugged.
  Obviously living in a tropical country where disease risks lurk means you have a different view of danger.
  Now we have the masks off let’s sing a song – shouldn’t increase the risk.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:02am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    It wasn’t a “song” that was sung; it was a hymn about God being their refuge during a storm.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:23am
- MCos
  
  Conversely if the “high profile WHO staffer” had died because we refused to let them in for treatment it wouldn’t have looked good either.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:20am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Ah well, if anything bad happens, Cindy can always put on her concerned/hurt, frowny face and say that aunty Helen bullied her into making such a bold and brave decision.
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:28am
Frank the tank

Kiwimart

What could possibly go wrong
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July 30, 2021 8:05am
- Tony Stuart
  
  David Clark? Rumours are, he’s already approached Clare Curran to be the CEO…
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:08am
  - pdm
    
    The biggest worry with that is that many a true word is said in jest.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:15am
- JibberJabber
  
  Boris Yeltsin,
  
  “When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people,” Yeltsin wrote. “That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it.”
  
  History will repeat, given Socialists are incapable of learning from history.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:18am
- nathie
  
  “KiwiMart” is sooo 1999-2008ish .. expect the $2M working group (led by Harry Tam) to report back (in 24 months) with the name “AotearoaMart”! 😉
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:52am
  - JackRabbit
    
    IwiMart
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:26am
Raphael

So yesterday RNZ had a story about how Oranga Tamariki kept a kid in Waikato Hospital for 9 weeks for no reason.

Where did RNZ get this information? From the documents posted by the hackers who stole the records from the Waikato DHB.

Now we might sit back and say “it was a good thing they did in this case”. but how long until they use it to target family members of opposition MP’s etc?
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July 30, 2021 8:06am
- Raphael
  
  Link to the RNZ article. the source is mentioned in the second para.
  
  In documents posted online by the cyber-attackers who targeted the DHB, staff said the youngster did not require admission to hospital for any medical reason and was not unwell.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448008/oranga-tamariki-apologises-for-keeping-a-child-in-hospital
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:08am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Is the Waikato Hospital a licenced prison?
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:16am
  - peterwn
    
    Possibly a licenced mental health institution.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:20am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Both uses require proper authorisation.
      Children have been kept in Police cells. We don’t accord respect to our children.
      
      Forty years ago they were kept in solitary for 23 hours a day without underclothing. Has it improved? Has Living Children (Oranga Tamariki) made a difference or is it just pretending as usual?
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:04am
      - david
        
        Yes indeed. Titewhai Harawira can give you first hand chapter and verse about child abuse in State care.b
        
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        July 30, 2021 12:23pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        I can too: my children were abused.
        
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        July 30, 2021 12:54pm
- I remember when
  
  Surely the story isn’t that the kid was kept in hospital for 9 weeks for no reason, but how does anyone get to stay in hospital for 9 weeks now.
  Getting to stay in hospital over the weekend is in itself an achievement.
  Nine weeks – how many people would love to be offered treatment with only one or two days in hospital.
  Did they have to pay the hospital for using their facilities.
  Surely it isn’t possible for Oranga Tamariki to just drop children off at the hospital with a note saying we will pick them up in 9 weeks.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:15am
  - rouppe
    
    I was in hospital for 11 weeks a few years ago.
    
    But then I’d had a collapsed lung, 14 rib breaks in 9 ribs, along with shoulder and ankle fractures.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:30am
  - The Housekeeper
    
    It’s heartbreaking to realise that there is no-one is this kid’s family who is better able to look after them than a hospital. Oranga Tamariki is just the ambo at the bottom of the cliff. Where the hell is this kid’s family and why aren’t they being called out for their negligence of their own child?
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:20am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      State care is State Care. They have complete control once the legalities are completed.
      
      It’s not always the parents who are responsible either. Children can have personalities that, short of straight jacketing them from 5 onwards, means that they exercise a degree of independence unbelievable to most people. I know, I was one and some of my boys. Good material but hard to educate. (One of them is now an internationally recognised valuer of ships, freight trains etc. Another didn’t make it.) Parents can love and provide for children but they still have their own characteristics.
      
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      July 30, 2021 1:06pm
- redeye
  
  I just watched Ryan Bridge interviewing Ashley Bloomfield on Newshub.
  How long before Bloomfield joins the Labour Party and starts campaigning for a winnable list spot. This guy obfuscates better than Ardern. It makes me sick that the Dept. of Health has become so political.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/mike-king-swipes-back-at-ashley-bloomfield-after-he-says-gumboot-friday-can-t-be-an-exception-to-ministry-of-health-rules.html
  Mike King has called for his resignation for misleading the public in this interview. Surely they’re such experts at it, ‘misleading the public’ is written into Labour’s constitution.
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:11am
JibberJabber

The Reluctant Heroine
Woke is the revenge of the dullard on the wit. But revenge is also a dish best eaten cold, and in public, for a great sum of money, as JK Rowling proves so triumphantly.

https://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2021-30/weltwoche-international/wi-jk-rowling-die-weltwoche-ausgabe-30-2021.html

In the summer of 2020 this very model of moderation was reborn again as a heroine of free speech and feminism when she was subject to a massive online pitchforking by the Men’s Rights Activists (Frock Division) – those incels in thongs and their treacherous Transmaids who believe that *woman* is a dirty word unless preceded by the nasty-sounding *cis.*
The resentment of the over-privileged, under-achieving bed-wetters of Woke is equally only to their everyday massacre of the English language, so it was fitting that the fight should start with JKR standing up for her mother tongue. The predictable kerfuffle ensued, but she wasn’t backing down: ‘If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased…the idea that women like me, who’ve been empathetic to trans people for decades, feeling kinship because they’re vulnerable in the same way as women—i.e., to male violence—‘hate’ trans people because they think sex is real and has lived consequences—is a nonsense…I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so.’
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July 30, 2021 8:08am
- Loddenthinks
  
  There’s a sis-woman in our family – my sister!
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:27am
Simon

Far left sites like the sub-standard framing the hate speech legislation as stopping Tarrant types. (doesnt matter if they oppose its the framing the issue) Its bull shit its legislation to control thinking of everyone. Fake hate speech law is about control not the Tarrants of this world.
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July 30, 2021 8:08am
- Raphael
  
  I notice that Martyn Bradbury has been increasingly vocal in his opposition to it.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:25am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Once Tarrant had a firearms licence nothing was going to stop him. He was a loner. No friends, no job, but great discipline and lots of money. The big stuff up was giving him firearms licence. The police made a serious error which they have admitted.
  
  Stopping a Tarrant requires a lot of luck.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:29am
  - DeepBlue
    
    And forcing any hurtful speech underground makes it even harder for authorities.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:52am
  - Phronesis
    
    Plenty of people have been shot and killed in the last few years, including Police officers. I don’t think any of them were shot by firearms licence holders with the exception of Tarrant. Tarrant explicitly wanted Governments to crack down on legal firearms ownership. Tarrant had the money to obtain the weapons he needed without a licence but chose not to.
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:08am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Not sure I saw the police admit any mistake, because then they would look at their own processes rather than confiscation and going after legal gun ownership.
    They are far from done, as they just changed the law to require museums to have a dealers licence, subject to yearly renewal and fees, to be able to curate historic firearms.
    As well as making it harder to run a gun club or run a gun range, and making the new applications for licences over 30 pages long, and waits of up to 6 months or more quite typical.
    All of this makes more difficult & discourages legal ownership, and does nothing about gangs or actual criminals.
    On this matter, I agree with NWA given that they have done NOTHING about their own failures and incompetence: F.T.P!!
    
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    July 30, 2021 1:26pm
  - GJM
    
    No, the Police didn’t admit it. It was forced upon them by the RC findings. It was pointed out within weeks at the time that the vetting was nine existent or inadequate, by the very experienced and respected police officer who used to be in charge of it. They denied and lied and slandered licensed owners until drunk driver … [deleted – Commissioner. Mod.] Mike Bush was able to retire to another trough, along with everyone else involved.
    I have no faith or confidence in the NZ Police, and believe they are politically driven and corrupt
    
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    July 30, 2021 6:06pm
Happychappy

Isn’t it funny that this Government is singling out our Grocery chains for price gouging when they themselves are just about the worst themselves at allowing it to happen.
Look at our rates and what we get for the amount we pay , look at the Climate change rules that this Government have implemented and look at who will pay , look at our Social welfare system and who are the largest earners that have to pay and then look at the unfairness of our electricity system and work out why discounts were taken away from good payers to satisfy the whims that dont pay their Bill’s because it’s unfair on them.
This is just a sample of the damage Labour does when it gets into power and then blames others for the exact thing they do to the wealthy that they are accusing the Supermarkets of.
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July 30, 2021 8:09am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Quite right. Also the fact that there’s a duopoly doesn’t mean you have no choice in where you buy your groceries.
  
  We support the local Farmers Market because it’s an excellent way to spend a Saturday morning, interacting with the growers and suppliers and bumping into friends, while getting fresh, great-tasting eggs, veges, fruit, bread, coffee beans, and the best macadamia nuts on the planet.
  
  You can find good greengrocers if you don’t have a farmers market, in Tauranga we have a very good fresh fish supplier, cleaning products you can get cheaper from hardware chains, and there are a huge range of meal options from the likes of Hello Fresh, MyFoodBag, Woop and so on. I know of a startup called Supie which is delivering freshly picked organic fruit and veges to your door, and there are others already in the market.
  
  It matters not a bit to me that two companies own all of the big box supermarkets, I’ll go if I want to and if I don;t I’ll use the options above.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:33am
Simon

The Wuhan Institute of Virology eh? Had read an interesting theory when the virus escaped from the lab it was much more deadly than now, but it did however mutate quickly to be less deadly. Goes some way to explain the early panic out of China and all the supposed data like massive dropped cell phone connections. What is known about the virus now and what was apparently happening in Wuhan / China late 2019 is different. But that could have all been CCP propaganda.

Only a few months ago it was a thought crime to consider the virus came from a lab. So much for the information age.
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July 30, 2021 8:12am
- KevO'Brien
  
  So it continues:
  https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/07/29/the-covid-scam-is-unraveling/
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:18am
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    Good read.
    
    Yes people who have had the vaccine have caught covid.
    
    Like the influenza, it mutates and the vaccine will only ever be at least a year behind it. And even then it will only be so effective, probably 35% to 65%.
    
    So soon the only people catching covid will be those vaccinated.
    
    There will be negative reactions to vaccines and people will die. The question is really numbers, but one thing is for sure they will be underreported if they are reported at all.
    
    Certainly do not expect a proper cost benefit analysis.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

Does anyone in our Government really care that loads of children from low decile schools don’t attend class regularly?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/national-mp-paul-goldsmith-fears-truancy-crisis-as-almost-a-third-of-kids-aren-t-turning-up-to-school.html
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July 30, 2021 8:12am
- Frank the tank
  
  Why would they want them educated and skilled up for the job market when they can continue the cycle of intergenerational welfare. Then again given the proposed curriculum over the next few years they are probably better off not learning about Maori spirits and “we waz robbed bro”.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:17am
- peterwn
  
  Why should they? The education system is run for the benefit of the teachers unions. There are two advantages of this truancy:
  1. Gets disruptive kids out of the teachers’ hair.
  2. They will grow up to be State dependents (whether inside or outside jail) and hence solid Labour/ Green voters.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:24am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I am all for the little shits in the class being their parents’ problem. The little shits absence gives the other 29 normal kids some sort of chance to learn something from a teacher who is actually teaching anything and not acting as full-time control for aforementioned little shit.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:51am
  - Tall Man
    
    Plus if they all attend there isn’t enough room for them.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:24am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  The truancy is a worry. But a bigger worry to me is us mug taxpayers paying huge sums to the “care givers” of those truants. It will be argued that the term “care giver” in this instance is sarcasm. And sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
  That makes me a low life.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:27am
- kowtow
  
  Pete Williams has been covering this for some time , possibly a lone voice in the media on this very important issue.
  
  This is arguably the biggest social problem facing the country and hardly anyone is addressing it .
  
  One reason of course is fear of being called racist , but this is an across the board social issue .
  
  I suppose it doesn’t look so good at UN podiums and other national and int’l venues to bang on about a real problem for real people as opposed to talking about climate apocalypse and a trace gas which is essential for life on earth.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:32am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It relieves the teachers, cuts the aggro, so a blind eye is turned.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:07am
- Surely Knott
  
  We were told they didn’t attend because they had no period products, so we provide period products at school. We were told they didn’t attend because they had no lunch to bring due to poverty and it was embarrassing *, and now there is free lunch at school and they are not attending.
  
  *Stuff 2017. https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/family-life/97293632/children-are-missing-school-rather-than-turn-up-without-lunch
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:51am
Frank the tank

Got my first Kungflu jab yesterday. Some observations of the process:

1). You are treated like a 2 year old – purple arrows everywhere; book in twice; at least 3 times told to be kind etc
2). Government Propaganda everywhere. Plenty of pidgin English and (little) Aotearoa signage on display. ‘New Zealand’ not on any of the official signage.
3). Masks, masks & masks. Can anyone explain why we require masks when we are essentially covid-free?
4). I was only 1 of 3 non sheep that didn’t scan in using the Amazon movement tracking app.

If anyone thinks this is the end – think again. I’m convinced after going through this gong show that there is a real desire to mask and scan up (little) Aotearoa.
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July 30, 2021 8:12am
- Tony Stuart
  
  When I had my second jab last week, I don’t think anyone was wearing a mask, not even the kind lady who gave me the needle! And no one told me to “be kind”…
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:20am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Is that in Auckland? I’ll drive anywhere within an hour of home to escape that made up pre-school I got my first jab at.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:28am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Ditto for both mine, even though requested to take one in the appointment confirmations. Probably site specific practise.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:55am
    - Batman
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Also quite possibly a product of Frank’s creative writing skills rather than any actual reality.
      
      Staff in masks = “masks masks masks”
      
      A couple of te Reo and pasifika greetings = “pidgin!!!!”
      
      One standard covid response ‘be kind sign’ = told three times!
      
      Hyperbolic language is the name of the game ?
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:13am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        “One standard covid response ‘be kind sign’ = told three times!
        
        Hyperbolic language is the name of the game ?”
        
        Sorry Bats –
        Got to agree with Frank on being reminded about the Cindy re-election slogan multiple times, even though it seemed to have no relevance to the activity at hand.
        
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        July 30, 2021 9:56am
      - Frank the tank
        
        Morning Batty,
        
        I was ‘forced’ to wear a muzzle like all the sheep in there although I did enjoy giving a death stare to the idiot that demanded I sign in using the Amazon personal locator beacon. Still no one can answer why you have to wear a mask when there is no Kungflu in the country.
        
        20 times I was subjected to the word Aotearoa and not once New Zealand. Sign of the times – at least I know what Maori felt like in the early 1900s….
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:03am
      - septic skeptic
        
        When I got my jab, masks were compulsory. The vaccine centre was enforcing level 3 or 4 social distancing. Also very bi-lingual/pidgin.
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:10am
      - Batman
        
        None of which should be a surprise or a concern.
        
        People coming to get vaccinated outside of group 4 are older, those with conditions, may have travelled or are about to travel, may have even had covid. It makes sense to protect the staff and patients from RSV, covid, influenza etc so they don’t spread it to others. You don’t have immunity for two weeks after your second jab after all.
        
        Re the language, we live in a country where literally dozens of dialects are spoken, from Southlander to bogan to Maori, chinese, and Samoan. Weirdly enough, I don’t any complaints about multi-lingual signs and language use in the EU where signs have up to 5-10 languages on them ?
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:18am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Batty, I was in with my MIL, who speaks no Maori and not much more English. There was absolutely no Mandarin on display. My wife translated everything for her.
        And then we get given the bullshit excuse that the process is racist against Maori as an explanation for their poor vaccination rates.
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:29am
      - Batman
        
        Well they plonkers at Health should certainly have some Mandarin on display. Usually health pamphlets and such have the most common languages.
        
        Being group 4 I have obviously not been anywhere near a vaccination site yet.
        
        The process isn’t racist, it’s a wider problem. Maybe a lot of Maori people read KB and believe the rubbish posted here about the vaccines haha
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:37am
      - oldfella
        
        Bats, the name ‘New Zealand’ also absent from the signage here in BOP where I got my jabs.
        
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        July 30, 2021 10:56am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Funnily enough, in Europe they don’t have signs in franglais, or Swedeutsch or any of the other pidgins languages. Unlike NZ.
        
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        July 30, 2021 6:51pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I was at a large shop yesterday. I think less than 1 in 20 used the covid app.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:32am
  - DeepBlue
    
    The Podium of Truth seem to have stopped talking about the app and reporting daily usage. I think everyone has moved on.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:55am
    - alloytoo
      
      I continue to see misleading advertising telling me the app could stop me from getting sick.
      
      Will the virus check my app status before infecting me?
      
      Are we missing a trick here, perhaps we should have an app for every ailment?
      
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      July 30, 2021 11:42am
      - lifesgood
        
        I’ve never once used the app and have no intention of ever using it. I have been proved right, it hasn’t been necessary for me. I am fully vaccinated so if I get covid it won’t kill me and bugger the government for thinking they can know my every move. I smile when I see sheep dutifully clicking in. Poor suckers have been terrified out of their wits.
        
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        July 30, 2021 2:06pm
- Simon
  
  At this stage it looks the vaxs would work on the original strains but there have been mutations away from the original and so the vax not so flash. Less and less effective as the ro changes.
  
  Depending on your health age etc for many no point in taking the vax and also more dangerous than the ro itself. (Under 25 yo & healthy)
  
  Likely outcome the virus mutates to become more infectious but less harmful. The gubermint drunk on the power from the coivd will take along time to come around to this and so people can be expected to be fucked around for a long time.
  
  There will be no herd immunity from the ro vax, if you have the ro vax you can pass on the virus, the ro vax isnt that effective in preventing spread of virus.
  
  Question at this point. The delta aint that deadly hence the drop in deaths is due to recent mutation not the ro vax? etc etc.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:19am
- krazykiwi
  
  If anyone thinks this is the end – think again.
  
  Correct. And this very good essay explains why:
  Neither Zero Covid nor Vaccinations will Allow us to Return to Normality: We Must Learn To Live With Covid
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:42am
- MCos
  
  I went with my wife to get vaccinated a few weeks ago, Frank the Ungrateful.
  My wife is Thai and I know if I wasn’t there she would’ve needed those simplified instructions to figure things out.
  I have been in situations in Thailand, applying for a drivers license for example, where nothing was written in English. It’s an intimidating experience not knowing wtf you’re supposed to be doing.
  Be grateful you have the vaccine paid for by someone else. People elsewhere are dying because they can’t get one.
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:13am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Free???? $100B in printed money says hello. Nothing is free this day champ – it’s just how it’s paid.
    
    Oh and stop with the people are dying mumbo jumbo. Like the kids committing suicide because St Ash and the Blairite can’t be fucked funding Gumboot day. Or people dying on statehighway 2 car crashes because we would rather funding a bike bridge over the Waitemata.
    
    I’m fucking tired of that boring and factually incorrect political argument.
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:52am
Maggie Pie

Don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but hardly a day goes by lately when you don’t hear ‘The Hosk’ say…..”Who want’s to live in a country like this?”

Can’t help but wonder if he might be preparing us for something 🙁
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July 30, 2021 8:13am
- igm
  
  I hope not. Along with this blog, BFD, and Bob Edlin, there is no one else that gives us the hard hittting facts about this incompetent communist/UN- driven bunch of charlatans aka government.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Peter Williams on magic talk.
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:37am
    - igm
      
      He can be a little hard to take at times.
      
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      July 30, 2021 9:29am
    - Inandout
      
      Kow, Peter is perhaps on ‘garden leave’ at present? A rather opportune time for him to take a break when the covid ads are pumping on the radio to take thee to the tents. He must be under immense pressure to tow the line.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:39am
  - kevn
    
    @igm… Add The Red Baiter to that list. Great factual articles.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:02am
    - igm
      
      You are right, not a bad read, worth noting!
      
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      July 30, 2021 4:26pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  But seriously people will leave. If the country were locked up for another two years, I am not prepared to not be able to see my friends and family in Taiwan and Australia. I have never heard the PM acknowledge this.
  
  I am looking at options to live in both Australia and Taiwan. I have set myself a deadline for the end of this year. If the borders are shut im leaving. Because at my age I do not want to be deprived of my family. The horror show that is the government is also a consideration.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:37am
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    The huge issue here is that I think that keeping the border closed would be the popular policy to follow.
    
    What you are relying on is for Ms Ardern to do the right thing, even though doing so could be very unpopular.
    
    Ms Ardern has no record of making unpopular decisions for the public good.
    
    Although Ms Ardern implies every day that she is a kind person, CAKE has found her to be anything but kind, consistently bullying individuals and groups that she doesn’t like (e.g., landlords, farmers etc).
    
    To the contrary, I believe she is a mass manipulator, a compulsive liar, and a show-off.
    
    The fear will be that the borders will be shut on a day-by-day basis, for many years – making planning extremely difficult.
    
    How can we plan when the Prime Minister is such a repugnant liar and degenerate? Why aren’t the media asking her any questions about this?
    
    I will most probably leave if the borders aren’t opened, although family considerations make this a painful decision.
    
    This is a democracy?
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:13am
  - Tall Man
    
    Without wanting to be negative, I suggest you start looking although ….
    
    https://nopunchespulled.com/2021/07/29/why-the-government-will-fall-in-1993/#more-2731
    
    Can you wait until 2023?
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:20am
  - Charmaine Hawke
    
    We are in the same position Benedict, I can’t believe I am even considering it but I can’t stay here much longer if things don’t improve.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:26am
  - CherryCat
    
    We will be back in Australia by April next year for much the same reasons Benedict. Luckily I got citizenship during my prior 23 year residency and my partner is Aus by birth.
    The best of luck to you whatever you decide.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:52am
    - Inandout
      
      CC, such a shame when the talented and intelligent leave our shores. The lot left behind are in for a very rocky ride especially when the coffers run dry and Robbo scrambles to spread the welfare debt. On a personal level the only thing I will have to face is property security when the great unwashed decide to ‘shop’ in my neighbourhood. Firstly though the retailers will be hit with massive shoplifting and the Police will stand back helpless, like in the US. We can’t remain fortress aotearoa without outside financial help – good luck with that one.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:47am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  He talked up Australia as a move this morning, Katie obliquely told him she was not going . . .
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:54am
  - lifesgood
    
    She did indeed. She said they still have children at school here and want to keep them at their current schools.
    
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    July 30, 2021 2:10pm
Nukuleka

As our government is spending valuable time debating a ban of Gay Conversion Therapy I guess it must be a very big issue in the Wellington political beltway, but truth to tell I’ve never heard of it, never seen it advertised or promoted, never met anyone who practises it nor who has has been a recipient of it. Guess it’s a much bigger problem for the government than child poverty, homelessness, housing affordability and the vaccination roll-out.
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July 30, 2021 8:14am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It’s telling that Faafoi can have legislation drafted as a response to a few fringe protesters. But when it comes to the real human rights issue of migrants in New Zealand being separated from their families by the government, many for a year and a half now, he’s sitting on his hands. His stewardship of the Immigration portfolio becomes worse by the week.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:18am
  - Biscuit
    
    Tony, it’s not just Faafoi who is slow.
    
    Remember when St Jacinda came in and established all those committees to look into things she reckoned National should have done and which she would, of course, fix once those committees’ recommendations were to hand?
    
    Some of them MUST have reported back by now, surely?
    
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    July 30, 2021 3:00pm
- Ruahine
  
  This is a very strange Gov’t. Some say that they are a bit queer.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:54am
fightingtemeraire

If the Govt goes into running a Supermarket Chain what name shall we give it

Kiwi Mart Meghan’s Deli

Grant’s Groceries Jacinda’s Kitchen
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July 30, 2021 8:18am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Kiwi food. I can just see the shit show. The Greens will be demanding it is all organic.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:39am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Ever known an organic green? They’re all peppered with pronouns.
    Set the Magenta Squad on them.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:11am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Obama: “Jim Henson didn’t create The Muppets, we did”
Oh hang on a minute
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July 30, 2021 8:18am
- Batman
  
  Steve what about the guy coloured bright orange with comically sized hands and cartoon hair?
  
  Seems like a good bet hahaha
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:15am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Bat – you have a really bad case of long-TDS.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:06am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Get some help Batman. Trump is living rent free in your head
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:55am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Friendship Between Women:

A woman didn’t come home one night. The next day she told her husband

that she had slept over at a girlfriend’s house. The man called his wife’s

10best friends. None of them knew anything about it.

Friendship Between Men:

A man didn’t come home one night. The next day he told his wife that he

had slept over at a buddy’s house. The woman called her husband’s 10 best

friends. Eight of them confirmed that he had slept over, and two

claimed that he was still there.
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July 30, 2021 8:19am
Bill Felt

“4000+ Suicides during lockdown level four, sources; St Johns ambulance”

I saw this comment on FB. Why were the stats on suicide stopped? Does anyone actually know the truth? – (apart from those on the podium of truth!)
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July 30, 2021 8:22am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  5,000 pedestrians killed or seriously injured on Aucklands roads last year according to some report on ZB this morning.
  
  I would need to see a breakdown of those stats myself.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:57am
  - alloytoo
    
    I try, but the bastards keep dodging me.
    
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    July 30, 2021 11:57am
- I remember when
  
  How many deaths are there now still awaiting the coroner’s attention.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:06am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    5500 case backlog, average wait time a year and a half, but some go back many many years.
    
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    July 30, 2021 3:04pm
KevO'Brien

For those looking for future economic indicators. We are not isolated from the USA stock market. Money has a its home internationally. This will impact our govt in due course as it effects are propagated through the global banking system, interest rates and our asset (property) prices.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/moment-wall-street-has-been-waiting-retail-all

At a real peak Tom, Dick & Stupid are in the market (following advts on NZ TV). The knowing lie in wait for them to offload their holdings.
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July 30, 2021 8:25am
Maggie Pie

A BESTIE RETWEETS.

This will likely be the most disturbing thing you see today.

Watch what happens when Freedom-of-Speech is denied, Law-Abiding citizens are disarmed, Police are emasculated, and out of control Gangs with guns are allowed to roam the streets with the Regimes backing….

https://twitter.com/omid9/status/1420298973999472642
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July 30, 2021 8:26am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I saw that the other night MP. It was pretty confronting stuff.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:42am
- kowtow
  
  I wonder how many “comedians” will refer to Nazar in times to come , given how woke they are , none.
  
  Statues to that guy need to be erected across the globe .
  
  We were treated daily to the Floyd / Chauvin show by the Media Pardy but this is buried .
  
  Interesting how the Media Pardy turned that Afghan girl into an international hero but this guy is basically unheard of .
  
  A bit like the Iranian weight lifter who should be in Tokyo , but they hanged him. And we trade happily with that regime .
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:46am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Isn’t that a bit South American?
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:13am
I remember when

So all we need to drastically reduce grocery prices at the Supermarket is another/third chain involved.
Why then, have a number of said chains ‘sniffed’ around the New Zealand market and no made any commitment.
All we need is another supermarket’s presence and price will return to ‘normal’, suppliers will not be ‘gouged’ by supply contracts and, of course, workers better paid.
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July 30, 2021 8:29am
Yvette

Is it sheer irresponsibility and political bias to ask if we have too many Ministers of Health – Ardern, Hipkins, Bloomfield, Little … and now Helen Clark?

However while an – Expert condemns transfer of COVID-positive UN worker from Fiji to NZ as ‘dreadful decision’ does that mean if it is doubtful Middlemore Hospital can handle one patient satisfactorily, what would be the position in a local community outbreak as in Sydney, with dozens or more needing hospitalisation?
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July 30, 2021 8:30am
Happychappy

Nurses fear tragedy will happen due to understaffing.
Nurses are coming to work scared and vulnerable fearing something bad will
happen to their patients because of dire staffing shortages a ChristChurch nurse
says.
Clinical Nurse Specialist Karen Bathelors
comments come after nurses rejected the latest DHB pay offer.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nurse-fears-tragedy-happen-due-understaffing
Like everything this Government touches you could guarantee that they have absolutely no idea of how to handle the problem because they and their Ministers in charge are to busy tending to the whims of criminals and gangs then that of New Zealand taxpayers.
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July 30, 2021 8:34am
- KevO'Brien
  
  When an incompetent govt lets the Public Service go to rack & ruin what else can we expect?
  
  Public service is expected to many grades above sycophancy. “Yes Minister” once meant “I’ll get on with the job” irrespective of the Minister.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:17am
I remember when

So Labour is looking to take credit for reduction in grocery prices because a long signalled Costco store will open in Auckland in 2022.
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July 30, 2021 8:35am
- curry4me
  
  I remember when:
  The sooner COSTCO gets to Christchurch, the better. They’re an excellent outfit.
  
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  July 30, 2021 4:47pm
Frank the tank

Anyone in the police force confirm that:

1). WokeCoster is sending out emails to staff saying he loves them and has their back.
2). Auckland wide crackdown for traffic infringements to get ticket fees up including pulling CIB out of detective work and onto the road.
3). Morale at an absolute low. The front line is seriously fucked off and no one is volunteering for additional work.
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July 30, 2021 8:37am
Tony Stuart

A fantastic result yesterday for the Aramoho Wanganui Rowing Club yesterday, with Kerri Gowler taking gold with Grace Prendergast in the Women’s Pair.

Among the crowd gathered at the club yesterday was 1972 gold medallist Wybo Veldman, part of the New Zealand eight who won gold at Munich. Wouldn’t it be great in the men’s eight could emulate that later today, along with the world champion women’s eight, and Emma Twigg in the single skull. And what a sight those two black boats are, under full power!

Kerri Gowler will join her sister Jacqui in the women’s eight, along with Grace Prendergast, and they could become the first Kiwi rowers ever to win two medals at a single Olympics. If they win, the cheers from Wanganui will be heard in Tokyo Bay!
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July 30, 2021 8:40am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Tony, I see you’ve taken the ‘h’ out of Whanganui.
  Good on you.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:58am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    The Aramoho Wanganui Rowing Club is an amalgamation of two clubs, and pre-dates the H. I’m not going to change their name for them.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:19am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      But you refer to ‘Wanganui’ (not the rowing club) in your last line.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:40am
  - Bob
    
    Off to the Correction Camp for you Tony.
    
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    July 30, 2021 4:57pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Have you lived in that area a long time Tony. You spell it the same way as I remember it as a kid. ?
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:03am
I remember when

Newshub: ‘Serious incident’: Hamilton running group members attacked by geese:
Just in case you think it started, “We are out of news so are filling space with this item about geese behaving normally.”
Perhaps it was one of those human interest stories we all love.
We were being “goosed” = poke (someone) in the bottom.
– to poke someone in the buttock with an upward thrust.
Or, perhaps, they had just reached the bottom and are looking for an upwards thrust.
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July 30, 2021 8:44am
jp_1983

This is what the law states in QLD –

Under the reforms, anyone found trying to suppress or change another person’s sexuality or gender identity faces up to 10 years’ jail or fines of almost $10,000 if it can be proved beyond reasonable doubt that their actions caused serious injury
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July 30, 2021 8:45am
Maggy Wassilieff

Over 4000 children are living in emergency housing
https://www.teaomaori.news/cockroaches-violence-and-uncertainty-nicola-willis-says-motels-arent-working
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July 30, 2021 8:49am
- Inandout
  
  Maggy, which is exactly why living well away from ’emergency housing’ is paramount. Burglars prefer to shop locally.
  
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  July 30, 2021 8:54am
Inandout

Poor Hosking has to play a Biden speech (sound of course) and CNN are desperate to get their rating out of the ditch so ZB are required to comply. Mike, in his obvious attempt to get everyone jabbed (even if by coercion-force) has not yet got a script for the next variant. This bloody virus could mutate forever and the sheep will need to be compulsorily vaccinated annually, alongside your voluntary winter flu jab.
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July 30, 2021 8:52am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Dipping with Ivermectin may return.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:19am
- peterquixote
  
  In and Out “This bloody virus could mutate forever and the sheep will need to be compulsorily vaccinated annually, alongside your voluntary winter flu jab.”
  This virus will be mutating forever without any genome reported and the sheep will need to be compulsorily vaccinated annually, alongside your voluntary winter flu jab.
  
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  July 30, 2021 1:37pm
Frank the tank

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/07/coronavirus-one-person-to-be-jabbed-every-90-seconds-at-mass-covid-19-vaccination-event-in-auckland.html

One jab every 90 seconds – sure.

It took me an hour to be processed through the Albany “Playschool” KungFlu jab center yesterday. Calling a Tui ad on this one.
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July 30, 2021 8:52am
- kowtow
  
  Last night’s tv3 “news” broadcast had the whiff of North Korea about it.
  
  The English lass excitedly walking us through the set up , followed by a very appreciative “wow” , literally, from Mike Mc Goebbels back in the studio .
  
  All Hail Make Glorious Leader .
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:37am
artemisia

In Stuff today – Massey University research says rents are rising. According to Massey Uni professor Graham Squires it is mostly because of government policies – tax change, talk of rent controls, shortages of stock, and also house price rises that may or may not be due to government policies (leaning towards may, personally).

Not mentioned by the professor were increased cost, increased compliance, increased fines and increased risk. These are the day to day realities of landlords, and as asset owners they have choices. And some are moving to Plan B. Because they can.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/renting/125903409/perfect-storm-means-rental-affordability-declining-nationwide
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July 30, 2021 8:54am
Maggy Wassilieff

Where to teach Maori knowledge…

https://www.teaomaori.news/matauranga-maori-must-be-protected

Many educated Maori want it taught alongside our current classroom and University subjects.

A Maori Astrologer wants it taught in separate institutions

Our knowledge should be housed in its own institutions. There is no place for it in Pākehā institutions, it’s a waste of time.”

At least this gentleman recognises the difference between Astrology and Science, which seems to be more than some of the proponents of teaching Matauranga Maori within the Science curriculum have yet to realise.
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July 30, 2021 8:59am
- Adroit
  
  This is the perfect example of why this is such a ludicrous argument. The guy is an astrologer FFS! The rest of the world, and even in NZ, will laugh at people that take their horoscopes seriously. Chuck Maori in front of it, and suddenly we should listen to him as if he was on par with Sir Roger Penrose.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:39am
- alwyn
  
  “There is no place for it in Pākehā institutions, it’s a waste of time.””.
  I doubt that this was meant in the way I am reading it but this seems to be the most sensible statement I have seen on the subject of “Maori science”.
  Yes, it really is a complete waste of time.
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:48am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Maori knowledge was regarded as privileged secrets and was kept to entrusted custodians of special chiefly classes. It was not for the hoi polloi.
  There is law in the Pacific against reciting privileged matters in public.
  
  Have the Maori Elders all retired?
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:28am
  - Paulus
    
    Why has it become over 180 years for Maori Science now to come to the front of our lives .
    Who kept the secret ?
    
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    July 30, 2021 2:00pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Coming to a place near you soon,
oh wait,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX9omj2VDBk
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July 30, 2021 9:01am
Yvette

Climate change “culture” was boosted when researchers found funding, kudos and other “benefits” attached to the work they advanced – so while a basis of cleaning up pollution and eliminating emissions legitimately exists, of course, and needs urgent attention and solutions – climate change as a religion now also seems to exist.

Is something similar, but in different terms and motivation, occurring with Maorification of New Zealand society beyond what is reasonable to meet the needs of Maori themselves?

While – “The Prime Minister has ruled out a separate Parliament because of public pressure, however has implemented other recommendations from the He Puapua report, including a separate Health Authority and Māori wards, without the wide-ranging debate these significant changes deserve,” Collins said.
“Every week I’m contacted by thousands of Kiwis who are worried they just don’t have a say in the future of their country anymore. They’re being kept in the dark and their questions go unanswered by Ardern’s Government.”

But is a “climate-change-type–religion” version of Maorification already happening …

Latest news from NZCER | Rangahau Mātauranga o Aotearoa [New Zealand Council for Educational Research]
29 Hōngongoi 2021
Nau mai haere mai ki tenei pānui tuatahi o Whakatere Tōmua. Welcome to the first edition of the newly named NZCER Newsletter – Whakatere Tōmua.
As part of our journey to becoming a bi-cultural organisation we have renamed the NZCER Newsletter Whakatere Tōmua which refers to wayfinding, this is our mahi and reinforces our kaupapa. It is about utilising the concepts of wayfinding—the voyaging spirit, navigation, and waka—as ways to describe the NZCER mahere (plan).

These are some of the actions that we are currently taking to strengthen our bi-cultural approach:
• through our strategic priorities (decolonising education, upholding mana Māori – whakamana Māori, improving equity for ākonga and equity in education and influencing the future of education)
• establishing working relationships with Mana Whenua
• applying a strong Māori lens through our key strategic documents such as our Communications and Marketing Approach
• through our Te mahere reo Māori o NZCER – NZCER’s Māori Language Plan
• offering three free reo classes and a waiata session each week. – NZCER newsletter
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July 30, 2021 9:02am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Bi-cultural does not meet it. What about all the others excluded: LGBT….
  I refuse to read English documents with faux Maori introductions and sometimes spiritual invocations.
  The mixture is not English so is not recognised as the use of English and fails as an official language.
  It fails in the other direction too as Maori with embedded English.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:34am
  - alloytoo
    
    I thought this sort of rubbish was Cultural appropriation, or have the goal posts shifted again?
    
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    July 30, 2021 12:03pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I suspect some official documents are now unlawful.
      
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      July 30, 2021 1:09pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Yes Kev, it’s the total arrogance that gets me. I have tried ignoring email and letters etc that start out with Te Reo words but they then phone me and ask if I received their communication. When I inform them (Akld Council the most recent), they inform me “that’s the way it is sir”.
    What to do? Effed if I know at this point as everything I do, receives a similar reply as that from Akld Council.
    The Racist Lunatics have taken over the Asylum!
    
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    July 30, 2021 1:24pm
    - Batman
      
      You could be less of a lunatic over your postal mail?
      
      Just a thought. They probably put the phone down and say “holy shit the loon I just spoke to said he refuses to read council letters because they say tena koe at the start!”
      
      You won’t die from reading a Te Reo greeting.
      
      Nga mihi.
      
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      July 30, 2021 1:41pm
      - Nickc2
        
        No Batman, I have it on good authority that my response has been taken further up the chain and the responsible person has been told everyone is entitled to their opinion. This would appear in direct contrast to yourself, where it’s your way or the highway.
        Lako ka veiseaki
        
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        July 30, 2021 2:06pm
      - Batman
        
        ‘taken up the chain’ is code for “get the grump off our case, just say we’ve escalated it for someone’s information.’
        
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        July 30, 2021 2:10pm
      - graham
        
        If you have the time and inclination, you could always try sending them a reply written as incomprehensibly as possible – try throwing in some quadruple negatives, legalese, and as many words over eight letters long as you can – just to make the point that even though something may well be written in “an official language of New Zealand”, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s easy to understand.
        
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        July 30, 2021 2:49pm
      - alloytoo
        
        @graham
        
        in response to many email signatures in our company with a lengthy Maori sentence (google says it means “Goodbye”.) I decided to adorn my own signature similarly with a language I learnt briefly in my youth.
        
        The results were:
        
        Zero response from the purveyors of the practice.
        
        A multitude of responses from people who actually understood it (due to a shared background) .
        
        A woman who actually happens to have Maori ancestry, but doesn’t partake in virtue signaling respectfully asked me what it meant.
        
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        July 30, 2021 4:38pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Some of them can be very offensive with invocation to Maori Spirits.
        
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        July 30, 2021 6:01pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      They need to be challenged. If the communication is not solely in one or the other of the lawful official languages then it is not a communication. I do not see a mixture as being official use of either language. A loan word may be acceptable but a paragraph is too much.
      
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      July 30, 2021 5:58pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING

Man accused of shooting lone Police Officer in Hamilton can now be named – SHANNON JOSEPH HENRY.

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1420846371792310273

A right piece of work going by his previous.
Combine that with another ‘lenient’ dudge and who knows what might happen.
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July 30, 2021 9:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  into stolen cars and ram-raids and dangerous driving injuring folks…
  
  He was sentenced by Judge Philip Recordon to 15 months of intensive supervision.
  
  The judge opted not to impose any disqualification from driving. This was because Henry was already banned from getting behind the wheel until January 2019, after being sentenced in November last year on a charge of dangerous driving causing injury.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/95415474/hamilton-ramraider-runs-red-lights-roars-wrong-way-through-roundabouts
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:18am
  - Nickc2
    
    Was this justice in accordance with ethnicity?
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:29am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    That’s it Maggs…the injury caused when he dragged a Police Officer behind his car for 15m when he sped away from a Police Checkpoint in Hamilton.
    
    The Free Range Asylum.
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:32am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      That reads like a jailing offence.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:36am
Batman

Sometimes you see a story and it is just a chef’s kiss level of comedy. Please enjoy

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/capitol-attack-bumble-takedown-jan-6-andrew-taake_n_6101b17ce4b00fa7af7ea007

“One of my friends was like, ’You basically got all these confessions just being, like, ‘Haha! Then what?’”

The perfect 2021 crime story lol
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July 30, 2021 9:18am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Love it Baty. Profiles someone who lies to everyone to suit her own purpose. Sound familiar to anyone you seem to admire?
  
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  July 30, 2021 9:29am
Jack5

The “media eminence” of sociologist Jarrod Gilbert grows.

The Herald today describes him as “gang expert, crime and justice academic and Herald columnist.”

They forgot he’s “director of criminal justice” at Canterbury University, author, gang expert, and media quote source.

The hype has soared since Greg Newbold retired from Canterbury University and as the sociologist who was the media’s go-to man for quotes on prisons and gangs.

With sociologists running Maori extremism and hijacking the Royal Society of NZ, this seems to be the age of sociologists.

Here’s another “*.ology” I’ve just stumbled on:

Wypipologist: someone, usually a Black person, who “studies” wypipo, or “white people.”

The web site that’s from (notice capital “B” and lower case “w”), says wypipologist is pronounced “wahy-pee-pol-uh-jist.”
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July 30, 2021 9:22am
Swifty

“Everyone agrees trans-women are women….”

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125914278/tokyo-olympics-ioc-medical-chief-praises-transgender-athletes-laurel-hubbards-courage

News to me.
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July 30, 2021 9:24am
- Cinematic
  
  Chromosomes dictate sex. No amount of hacking and supplementing can change sex type. If you’re not XX you’re not female.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:46am
I remember when

Does taking over assets that the Government is ridding itself of require more than usual care.
Remember when the Government transferred to Maori or sold their Forestry assets.
It was shortly before the ETS was introduced and with it controls of forestry harvest options.
What goes around, comes around, and the signs are they may be looking to forestry again in the future.
The use of trees for biofuels, coal replacement, timber for construction, carbon sequestration to met future CO2 targets and hill country erosion to name a few.
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July 30, 2021 9:30am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

TBH, I’m not sure he even realises how silly this looks….

but why would someone want to grow a tache that looks like he’s got two bogeys running out his nose?

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1420813979685990405
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July 30, 2021 9:40am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPbgQ1HrZkM

Duterte can’t save the Philippines anymore, but one person can.

The Philippines needs a decisive leadership. The Philippines needs a strong government that places the interests of the country at the core of all its actions. President Rodrigo Duterte has proven to be an unmitigated disaster for the Philippines, who has steered the country increasingly towards the direction of China, thus compromising heavily on Manila’s national security. [6:32]
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July 30, 2021 9:47am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNxUr77aQw

Joe Hidins Poll Stuff.

Joe Biden’s approval rating is falling and the Election Mafia can’t even cover for him anymore. What does this mean for 2022? [13:38]
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July 30, 2021 9:47am
- krazykiwi
  
  He has just insisted that 5 million government worked must accept an experimental ‘vaccine’ in order to retain their jobs, while offering all unvaccinated people $100 to get jabbed.
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:23am
  - curry4me
    
    krazykiwi: Yes, one or two unions aren’t very pleased with the idea.
    
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    July 30, 2021 4:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Vaccine Causes The Virus To Be More Dangerous.
https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html?
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July 30, 2021 9:49am
Benedict Yu

Oh dear.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125914278/tokyo-olympics-ioc-medical-chief-praises-transgender-athletes-laurel-hubbards-courage

Dr Richard Budgett backed her inclusion at a news conference in Tokyo on Thursday, stating: “Everyone agrees that trans women are women”
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July 30, 2021 9:50am
- Maggie Pie
  
  And while I think of it…..worth putting in your diary
  
  Gav will have his first lift this coming Monday @ 10:45pm
  
  Let’s hope he doesn’t make a Dick of himself 😀
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:37am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    If this person wins a medal, especially if it is gold, there will be, well issues.
    
    In the current environment, many New Zealanders will not speak out but they will be embarrassed for our country.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:46am
    - Cinematic
      
      Shameful. An XY competing against XX’s.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:50am
    - The Housekeeper
      
      ” …our country.”, Benedict? I thought you were looking at flights out of NZ in favour of your more advantageous alternative citizenships? Funny time to come over all patriotic for NZ?
      
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      July 30, 2021 12:26pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        What a piece of work you are.
        
        I have stayed in and contributed to New Zealand for many years. I am entitled to be as patriotic as any other citizen. If I leave, it will be with sadness. Because I refuse to be separated from my family for years to come.
        
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        July 30, 2021 2:07pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Yeah? A label doesn’t change the actuality.
  Ardern #1 sheep farmer.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:41am
- graham
  
  Oh dear indeed.
  
  “Everyone agrees”?? Really Richard?
  
  Well Dick – I assume you don’t mind if I call you Dick, in much the same way you assume you can speak for “everyone” – I have to tell you, that here’s at least one person who doesn’t agree.
  
  Sorry to have to drop that on you Dick.
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:18am
- alloytoo
  
  The problem with claiming “Everyone” is that you only need one dissenting voice to prove you’re a liar.
  
  I know of at least two trans women who know they are men with Gender Dysphoria.
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:11pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Nuremberg Convention?
  
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  July 30, 2021 1:11pm
- Biscuit
  
  Whenever I hear someone begin a statement with ‘Everyone’, I immediately think a porkie or six is about to be told…
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:49pm
MrTips

So there’s a thing going around about graphene oxide being in the Pfizer vaccine. The conspiracy theory is that graphene oxide is toxic but also magnetisable (we speak the Queen’s English here, none of this z rubbish).

Scene set
1. Graphene oxide is toxic but is actively being investigated/used for many biomedical applications.
2. Apparently a Spanish lab tested spent Pfizer vials and found graphene oxide. Cancellation and denouncement of said lab and results was swift.
3. Media and Pfizer say “its all horseshit, no graphene oxide to see here”.

Problem
Graphene oxide is well investigated as an adjunct in vaccine nanoparticle delivery. Its being used in novel intranasal flu vaccine research, it has a real head of steam in potential applications as a vaccine carrier/adjuvant, and has been investigated as a nano-adjuvant to boost immunity for years.

And its not just vaccines for COVID. Applications using graphene oxide hydrogels in cancer therapy are being developed.

Conclusion
Obviously don’t know if graphene oxide is in the Pfizer vaccine. But the possibility of it can’t just be dismissed as there is clearly active, peer review published use of it in vaccine and cancer programs that is hidden in plain sight. Naysayers might say its “not in the patent or publications of the vaccine”. Why would they? The use of GO based nano-particles ALONE is not patentable and formulations would come under proprietary or know-how, which is commercially sensitive.

I find this very odd that Pfizer and the media are so quick to clamp down on the possibility of graphene oxide being in there, when its clearly in use and planning. What’s the big deal?
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July 30, 2021 10:02am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The “vaccines” don’t all seem to be the same, possibly even from the same source. There is strong suggestion of experimental batches being trialled.
  It’s not conspiracy theory when proven tests on different sets give different results. It is very concerning when the WEF have pre-announced their future expectations of a Great Reset and ID and these things may be underway.
  
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  July 30, 2021 10:48am
- Pharmachick
  
  Wasn’t aware that GO was actively being studied in humans yet. There are (were?) some PK issues with deposition of the nanotubes in the pancreas in pre-clinical models (mostly rodents).
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:28am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    There’s a reasonable sized band of watchers throughout the world. I’ve seen enough to make me very cagey about the integrity of this whole vaccination process. GO has definitely been isolated. Strange magnetic effects have also been reported. These things are not conclusive but are consistent with testing Gates’s ID markers.
    
    In the past we had conventional vaccines following extended testing. Now we have a test, the WHO has had to recommend be downgraded, and the previously tested, re-tested.
    
    I appreciate your integrity as a pharmacist. But for a small life interruption I probably would have become one myself. Now I can sit on the fence and watch research reports and follow the World Economic Forum announced plans for our perpetual lockdown. We live in peculiar times which I never expected to have to contemplate and raise teenagers in. I’m a natural researcher so take nothing for granted. There are many threads through the path of life. A work in progress is not completed so I’ll wait a while yet before accepting any COVID.
    
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    July 30, 2021 1:29pm
    - Pharmachick
      
      I am not a pharmacist. I am a pharmacologist… its different…
      
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      July 30, 2021 4:08pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Thanks for the correction.
        
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        July 30, 2021 6:04pm
kevn

Mr Tips… Clearly a potential problem in the making.
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July 30, 2021 10:14am
Maggie Pie

OMG!! The comments 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1420831697021640706
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July 30, 2021 10:30am
The Boss

An All Black gets a slap on the wrist for assaulting a woman. Disgusting.
Foster says the door to playing for the All Blacks again is still open. Even more disgusting. Is the pool so shallow that he should be considered?
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July 30, 2021 10:53am
- Adroit
  
  So much for good men make good All Blacks.
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:21pm
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, The Boss.
  
  Imagine the rethinking of attitudes that would happen in Sporting Hoonland if someone in authority – a judge, a sports body, a coach – said to him and his mates: ‘Go, and don’t darken our door again.”
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:46pm
JibberJabber

Reasons why to avoid public transport #963

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1420870984563785729

Watch at your own peril ?
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July 30, 2021 11:03am
- Maggie Pie
  
  “Im jus gonna sit bac down here an put mar hair bac on”
  
  LOL!!!!
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:42am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Such bad language in front of the baby.
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:44pm
kevn

The huge Health and Education reforms will be massive administrative failures.
We all know this.
The evidence is seen every day.
Don’t start me on 3 Waters…
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July 30, 2021 11:09am
Fletch

It’s an hour but worth listening to. Professor Nikolai Petrovsky, whose company helped develop vaccines for the SARS, MERS and Swine Flu viruses in 2009, and now the Covid virus. He has been at this for 20 years. What I didn’t know is that there are around 5 or 6 different types of vaccine, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine being only one. The vaccine Petrovsky’s company manufactures is made from recombinant protein and they’ve had YEARS to prove that this is safe (unlike the mRNA vaccines). He also goes through some of how they do this in this YouTube webinar, hosted by the Kirby Institute – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_2Rq1zoRg

Petrovsky Interviewed by Dr Lewis Ehrlich on Spotify.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4xkRqKDUjN36vmPpkjd5vY?si=LLS7jekbRJykEImsPHrwNw&nd=1&fbclid=IwAR1zAF4Zo-C85xyExJvIlwrl6FxwCqgTbIijRyhTcH-2PC5FOK3P7Y-HOlI

Another big takeaway for me is that the current vaccine we are being jabbed with WILL NOT stop transmission. AT ALL. This makes the idea of vaccine passports a joke. Petrovsky also reckons that we are only a third to a quarter of the way through the pandemic and he estimated when it began that 30 million people would likely die worldwide, which he still believes.
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July 30, 2021 11:21am
- Fletch
  
  Partial transcription of Q&A at the end regarding mRNA (“gene therapy”) vaccines, vs traditional, or recombinant protein vaccines.
  
  Lately it’s a very important question and I think the distinguishing feature of the recombinant protein based vaccines and the inactivated vaccines, versus the other technologies is that they stay extracellular. So, so when we inject protein or if we you know, inject our inactivated viral vaccine like our flu vaccines and obviously the Chinese COVID vaccines, those proteins don’t go inside the cells per se, they stay on the outside. Some of them are taken up by dendritic cells and processed and presented which is how we get the immune response, but they don’t go into any other cells. The differences with mRNA and adno virus vectors is your transfect a gene therapies, so you’re transfecting many different cells across the body.
  
  With those genes that are now going to start expressing protein inside cells, and not just inside cells in the muscle, that’s that’s not true. You know these systems, potentially Express spike protein in, in many different parts of the body, inside the cells. Now that has two consequences. One is that the spike protein expressed inside the cell, might start interfering with normal cellular signaling, and because you know it’s a foreign protein in a cell, it shouldn’t be in.
  
  And that may trigger a side effect. The other thing is that you do it because the protein is inside cells, you’re going to give a lot of presentation of that protein by those cells on MHC class one. What that means is that those cells will look like a virally infected cells. And so our cytotoxic T cells are going to come in and kill those cells thinking that this is a virally infected cell, I mean that’s what our immune system is designed to do. Now that’s fine if, if, if you know the the spike protein is on a few muscle cells and a few muscle cells get killed by those cytotoxic T cells. But what happens if, if that mRNA or, or that adno virus vector goes to the brain or, you know, to the ovary or to a sensitive tissue or to the beta cell on the pancreas, for instance, because if that cell starts to make that protein, and puts it on class one and now our T cells come in and kill that tissue that that could have very negative consequences and so there are these very fundamental differences between a protein and as I say inactivated virus is a protein, so they sit in, I think the safest category, the answer with the gene therapy type approaches is, is we really don’t know what their long term consequence is going to be so we can speculate about it but the problem is here, here today we you know we simply don’t know. So I think the reliability of protein and inactivated viruses in the safety aspect of that, you know, you know, is at least as important as the efficacy and and and we can get in debates about, you know relative efficacy, I think the inactivated vaccines, it’s been a bit disappointing, it’s been on the low side. I think for the recombinant proteins based on our vaccines data and certainly on our animal data we’re seeing very high levels of protection. So, you know if we have strong safety and strong protection, you know, that would be my preference over an mRNA, or an adno virus, you know, if I was choosing for myself but obviously everyone needs to make that choice themselves and it depends what is made available to them.
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:31pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    A safe vaccine challenging T-Cells?
    
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    July 30, 2021 1:35pm
  - peterquixote
    
    Yes Fletch. The recombinant “vaccines” have not been properly tested either. The trials were short, weak, and had no proper control group according to what we can find.
    The reality and evidence is not emerging yet. Can you give a good reason why anyone should trust the Janssen vaccine , or any vaccine ?
    
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    July 30, 2021 1:58pm
    - Fletch
      
      The synthetic protein-based vaccines he is talking about are the ones we give children every year in their millions and have apparently no side effects – the gold standard we have been using for the last 40 years. This is as opposed to the killed virus vaccines which can leave people with flu-like symptoms straight after, and now the mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and AZ, which are newer again.
      
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      July 30, 2021 3:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Hey sheeple, is it sinking in yet? You are being shafted.
https://twitter.com/danpriceseattle/status/1413189135158833158?lang=en
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July 30, 2021 11:30am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Remember, the vaccine is not FREE, you are paying indirectly. Ask Grant to explain, his answer would be amazing
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:36am
Maggie Pie

OMG! This actually happened in….. MT. ROSKILL??

Looks like it was a while ago but 😀

https://twitter.com/JonTurnerNZ/status/1405053394310426630
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July 30, 2021 11:32am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If the Govt said as from tomorrow everyone must crawl on their hands and feet because the virus hovers at 3feet and above …. A lot of people would be doing it.
Hands up who would
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July 30, 2021 11:34am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Don’t think you’ll get any admissions around here Steve – might lose face. 🙂
  
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  July 30, 2021 11:42am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    But we know they are here- lots of them
    
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    July 30, 2021 12:00pm
    - Jack5
      
      You’re not an undertaker, are you Steve??
      
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      July 30, 2021 12:03pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Could name a few that would lift both hands 🙂
      
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      July 30, 2021 4:10pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Only if you stumble while crawling ….
    
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    July 30, 2021 1:43pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      🙂 🙂 wondered if anyone would pick that up
      
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      July 30, 2021 3:50pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  No way,
  K.
  
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  July 30, 2021 1:36pm
- lifesgood
  
  I know people who still think Jacinda is God…they would.
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:20pm
  - Inandout
    
    life, the duped ones who read stuff and watch the local news, yes they know not any better. But then there are the cunning crowd who are very well healed and partake of the high end narcotics; they love Jacinda because she loves the gangs. Supply and demand will always win out.
    
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    July 30, 2021 5:40pm
Fisiani2

NURSES
That latest pay offer included an advance payment on the expected fair pay deal the government had committed to, and committed to a ministerial review of staffing, a review of care demand management, and a recruitment campaign.
Nurses know that weasel words like REVIEW, ENDEAVOUR, AIM FOR, WORK TOWARDS, CAMPAIGN, COMMITTED, TRY and other such crap are just blah, blah, blah with no ACTION.
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July 30, 2021 11:50am
- Phronesis
  
  Smart enough to see through their Union leaders too. Guess who would have been in the trough for all those “reviews”.
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:36pm
Maggie Pie

Just heard a talkback caller saying he had to leave the mass vaccination circus at the Manakau Vodafone Centre after queuing for nearly 2 hours!
He had a job to go to.

Sounds like a total cluster….
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July 30, 2021 11:53am
- Frank the tank
  
  A Jab every 90 seconds Lol.
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:01pm
  - Batman
    
    Entirely possible if they were organised….. Which they definitely are not haha
    
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    July 30, 2021 12:20pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      With 3 sets of admin, mandatory muzzle wearing, amazon person tracker scanning, A maze of lines, one-way zones, repeatedly being asked if you were sick (lol) and the mandatory 20 minute wait after getting the Kungflu jab no fucking way are they going to hit that expectation.
      
      Be kind, stay safe (little) Aotearoa
      
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      July 30, 2021 2:13pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Maybe NZ has run out, but not admitting it? Not the first time we have been lied to
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:02pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Or the second, or the third, or the fourth….
    
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    July 30, 2021 12:28pm
    - Tall Man
      
      And that’s just today 😉
      
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      July 30, 2021 1:42pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I wonder if Jaspinda reads this blog and knows that NZ has had a gutsful of here and the Govt’s lies and constant bullshit?
        Or maybe the lust for power exceeds that and she does not give a fuck?
        
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        July 30, 2021 2:27pm
      - fernglas
        
        Well, Steve, even if she reads this blog, which I doubt, I don’t think even she is silly enough to think it speaks for the whole of the country
        
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        July 30, 2021 5:37pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/07/fears-of-parking-chaos-after-aucklanders-realise-mass-vaccination-event-coincides-with-rail-closure.html
  
  ~2:04 in – should only take an hour all up including shuttle from MIT campus + observation time – a really quick experience!
  Oh dear – more gummit planning & delivery.
  and
  “RNZ reported on Friday morning the event was off to a smooth start”
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448044/live-updates-covid-19-mass-vaccination-event-taking-place-in-auckland
  
  – but if you follow link it appears you now get a completely different story. Lol – MSM are now my comedy source.
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Good reception for Biden.
https://rumble.com/vkggnr-biden-gets-quite-the-reception-from-pissed-off-citizens-during-pa-visit.html?
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July 30, 2021 12:08pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  85 million votes…..BWAAAA!!
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:29pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That’s a lot of dead people and illegals
    
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    July 30, 2021 12:35pm
  - curry4me
    
    Maggie Pie: Wot! Only 85 million. I thought it was 185 million. Time for a recount! /sarc
    
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    July 30, 2021 5:06pm
- Fletch
  
  Biden says he used to drive 18 wheeler trucks ?
  
  “I used to drive an 18-wheeler truck, man.”
  
  https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1420441422067552259
  
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  July 30, 2021 12:37pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I think he had a ride in one once and pretended he was driving. Everything is pretend with Joe, he does not know any better with his illness. Sad
    
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    July 30, 2021 2:30pm
  - Inandout
    
    Fletch, poor Joe is sliding into the mental abyss. I hate elder abuse, I really do.
    
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    July 30, 2021 5:22pm
Maggie Pie

WOW!!!

GOLD for EMMA TWIGG…. by 2 boat lenghts!! 😀

The girl from ROC was expected to give Emma a run for her money. Only managed 3rd. My partner reckoned she was sooo ugly.
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July 30, 2021 12:50pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Mens 8s though!!!!
  All respect to the women’s 8s too 🙂
  
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  July 30, 2021 1:39pm
- Biscuit
  
  Maggie, the Russian girl who silvered behind Emma coiuld drop her kit under my bed anytime.
  
  Though I fancy my ‘usual’ partner might raise an objection – and a knife – there.
  
  That Russian delighted me – crying almost in rage whilst still on the water but being all smiles and sportsgirllike afterwards.
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:41pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Fair enough Bikkie 😛
    
    https://twitter.com/Olympics/status/1420912462182952962
    
    My partner said something about…. ‘Beer googles’ ?
    
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    July 30, 2021 3:31pm
Fletch

Faafoi on new law that could land someone 5 years in jail for practicing “conversion therapies”…

Performing conversion practices intended to change or suppress someone’s sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, could end in a five year prison sentence under a new law change.

Under the law change, announced by Justice Minister Kris Faafoi on Friday, conversion practices are defined as having the intention of changing or suppressing a person’s sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/up-to-five-years-in-prison-for-conversion-practices-under-new-law.html

A lot of woke BS, of course… Someone’s gender is set and unchangeable no matter what they wish they were.
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July 30, 2021 12:53pm
- Tall Man
  
  [deleted – no we’re not having that, Mod]
  
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  July 30, 2021 1:37pm
  - Tall Man
    
    [Please don’t reply to a deleted post – reply to the poster you are directing your comment at. Mod.]
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:51pm
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      Why, you’re so keen on deleting a perfectly legit response/question.
      
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      July 31, 2021 9:21am
- Than
  
  That bill worries me. I’ve got no time for conversion therapy (it’s at best ineffective mumbo-jumbo, and at worst traumatic for the participants) but this sounds like it casts a much wider net. Probably too wide IMO.
  
  My concern is it could be effectively a Hate Speech law introduced by stealth, albeit focusing solely on speech related to sexual orientation/gender identity. Anybody expressing a view that disagrees with woke doctrine about gender issues, it’s jail for you.
  
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  July 30, 2021 3:01pm
  - tf78
    
    Than, what I don’t understand is that teachers can have suggestive classes recommending the boys can be girls and girls can be boys. Where is the line drawn exactly. What the teachers appear to be allowed to do seems totally at odds with the new bill. (They’re the ones that should be locked up in my opinion).
    
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    July 30, 2021 7:52pm
Batman

Who was it earlier in the week who was cheering for NZ not winning any medals because we had “gone woke”?

Would that person please step forward to be awarded their slice of humble pie…
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July 30, 2021 1:16pm
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, Batman.
  
  You really do wish that folk would look at the programme for the Olympic Games.
  
  Week One is dominated by Swimming and Gymnastics, neither ‘biggies’ in our medal-hunting eyes.
  
  It just so happened that this year Rowing got all its finals over at the tail end of the first week.
  
  Sports we ‘target’ – Yachting, Rugby and – usually – Rowing etc – tend to take more days to complete … and hence our overall performance tends, early on, to look less-than-superb.
  
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  July 30, 2021 2:38pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    That’s the rowing done, and guess what country finished top overall; li’l ol’ New Zealand, that’s who!
    
    Records galore as well; Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast become the first New Zealand rowers to win to medals in a single Olympics, and the amazing Hamish Bond becomes New Zealand’s first three-time rowing gold medallist; fantastic stuff. I hope that, at New Year, he becomes Sir Hamish, one of our all-time sporting greats. He should never have to buy a beer in New Zealand again 😀
    
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    July 30, 2021 3:01pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Yes, and outstanding performance from our rowers. The big screen in our office has never had so much attention.
      
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      July 30, 2021 3:05pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Lol Batty.
  
  I’ll have a piece for because its you. Enjoy your weekend
  
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  July 30, 2021 4:19pm
krazykiwi

Busting the myth that vaccination prevents transmission.

Anyone who still thinks these experimental ‘vaccines’ are the silver-bullet which will restore normality is either: –

(a) An unthinkingly consumer of NZ-based MSM (aka propaganda); or,

(b) Willfully ignorant.
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July 30, 2021 3:03pm
- cmm
  
  Like I said before it is basically a post-Christian holy water to go along with the other rituals.
  
  Just as the Catholic Church has its bells and smells, the Covid-fearing religion has its own rituals and sacraments: masks, social distance, vaccines – of which the vaccines are the only thing with any scientific credibility.
  
  Now I personally believe that the vaccine has some positive effects, but is nothing near as effective as many other vaccines out there or as it was hyped. It certainly isn’t a one prick, or even a two-prick solution to anything.
  
  Meanwhile CV19 policies the world over have been formulated on the basis of holding out until a vaccine sets us free. That is not happening.
  
  So now what? Keep the lockdowns for another how many years? When is enough enough?
  
  Even the Spanish Flu – which was arguably 300x worse – stopped being a pandemic after 2 years (but drifted off into the background). Likely the same will happen here, just delayed a bit by the lockdowns.
  
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  July 30, 2021 4:14pm
  - tf78
    
    cmm, I think our normal/everyday flu is is remnants of the Spanish Flu. (I could be wrong).
    
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    July 30, 2021 7:48pm
    - Tall Man
      
      There are over 200 variants of the flu and cold virus.
      
      Possibly in there somewhere.
      
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      July 30, 2021 8:47pm
- Frank the tank
  
  The next month will be critical. If mortality rates in the vaccinated continue to be well below flu mortality rates then left wing governments won’t have a leg to stand on.
  
  That’s why there was so much hysteria over Boris and Savid’s plan to open Britain up. Our suppliers in Canada said today that Trudeau had effectively been bullied into opening up as well. it’s happening in Europe and the States as well. Western governments will fall if they try and prolong the charade when medically there is no reason to do so.
  
  If that happens the cult of (little) Aotearoa can finally be broken……hopefully…..
  
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  July 30, 2021 4:25pm
Jack5

More evidence of the intellectual decay in our tertiary education …

A business lecturer at Otago, the country’s oldest university advocates price controls for supermarkets. He’s a lecturer in marketing, a core tool in free enterprise.

Robert Hamlin is reported at Red Radio as saying: of supermarket price controls: “”That would actually cause fresh meat and fresh vegetables to be considerably cheaper, particularly when they’re in season, and would cause some other products to be significantly more expensive, like sugar.”

Dearer sugar? Is he also advocating food prices should also be manipulated to encourage us plebs to eat or drink what the State thinks is best for us?

Hamlin recommends pricing in supermarkets should be regulated as it is in utilities.

Not since Muldoon have we had State media favourably highlighting suggested price-controls.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/448078/strong-regulation-needed-to-counter-supermarket-price-gouging-marketing-expert
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July 30, 2021 3:21pm
- cmm
  
  Earlier this week I heard an academic speaking out against tipping in restaurants and that the business owner should pay the waiters a living wage instead of forcing the customers to pay the wages through tips.
  
  Clueless.
  
  He misses three main points:
  1) The business owner doesn’t pay waiters. All costs are paid by the customer including waiters, produce, rent etc etc. If wait staff expenses goes up then the customer pays more (just as with rent, food prices etc). The customer can either pay the waiters directly, or through the business.
  2) When the wait staff are paid directly (ie. tips), the customer gets to reward better waiters who improve the dining experience and poor waiters are paid less (and hopefully get the message to lift their game or leave). When all waiters are paid the same living wage through the business, then the good waiters are, effectively, subsidising the bad waiters and it becomes a race to the bottom. Customers lose out and are less inclined to spend money on a dinner out because it is less enjoyable.
  3) There is less incentive for waiters to work harder for the customers (and business). This makes the work less attractive to good waiters and more attractive to the dregs. Again, a race to the bottom.
  
  But, hey, he’s in academia so what does he really know/care?
  
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  July 30, 2021 4:03pm
  - MCos
    
    Does that logic apply to all businesses?
    For example.
    If I get someone to do something round the house should I just pay for the parts and whatever I feel like for the labour?
    
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    July 30, 2021 7:32pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    You are maybe not aware how tips work. At best, they get divided among the staff according to some sort of seniority formula. At worst, the owners take their cut first.
    
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    July 30, 2021 10:07pm
- Swifty
  
  I saw that Jack5.
  
  One has to be careful, he may have said a whole bunch else which was not published but on the face of what was published you’d think he’s lost the plot.
  
  The Soviets had food price control for decades. It resulted in poor quality, scarcity, empty shelves and very, very poor nutrition.
  
  I’m sorry the 30 year Otago veteran lecturer wasn’t better educated. Maybe he needs to get out more.
  
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  July 30, 2021 5:43pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Muldoon had to bring in price controls as NZ was going broke through Labours excessive wage increases and other matters.
  
  Price controls most likely will have to return under a Collins Govt. I am sure another wage/price spiral has been started by our present amateur govt. The Minster of Finance does need to know how a country works an its interface with the rest of the world.
  
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  July 30, 2021 6:11pm
  - MCos
    
    Muldoon brought in the price & wage freeze in 1982 because inflation was running at consistently around 15%
    
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    July 30, 2021 7:40pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    When are you going to stop lying, Kev.
    
    Muldoon brought in a wage and price freeze, in May 1982 (six and a half years into his “reign of terror”), because of his own economic incompetence, as you well know.
    
    It had nothing to do with Labour.
    
    (See https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/06/32_house_price_inflation.html/comment-page-1#comment-2959036.)
    
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    July 30, 2021 9:31pm
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      Muldoon is the second worst PM I can recall.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:05pm
- greybeard
  
  Hamlin obviously has no idea how GST works: the debiting and crediting of GST accounts by all of the GST-registered businesses involved in the entire production and distribution process.
  With the result of the end-user paying the GST clincher.
  
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  July 30, 2021 6:22pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Try importing
    your have to pay GST up front with your freight and inspection and port fees.
    It subtracted of your taxes later, no adjustment for interest or depreciation on the time it takes to get paid by the end user.
    
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    July 30, 2021 6:31pm
cmm

14 hours to respond to a crime in progress? C’mon pod, surely you can do better than that!

I’ve only had to call the cops once in inland Canterbury. They turned up after 20 minutes – including a 25 km drive taking the long way to see if they bumped into the fleeing perps. Surely they should be able to respond like that most of the time?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-arrive-14-hours-after-hawkes-bay-man-pursued-thieves-in-car-boxed-them-in/JPY4VOGOMIZCHB5V5SCC3XVOXQ/
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July 30, 2021 3:49pm
lifesgood

National will sail in next election if they promise to reverse most of the nonsense this government has brought in. They will also need to confirm New Zealand as the name of the country and reduce the woke nonsense of calling every city in NZ and all govt agencies, universities etc by Maori names. If they are not prepared to do that they are toast and Act will become the leading second, and hopefully first, party. Judith, are you listening?
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July 30, 2021 4:00pm
- MCos
  
  When was the last time National reversed anything of significance Labour brought in?
  
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  July 30, 2021 7:12pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Please explain what you think “of significance” actually means?
    
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    July 30, 2021 8:16pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      Maybe it would be easier for you to name a Labour policy they have reversed, and we can judge its significance.
      
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      July 30, 2021 10:03pm
    - MCos
      
      Right back at the beginning of the National Party they opposed the Social Security Act that is the basis of our welfare system.
      Obviously no part of it has been rescinded. In fact they’ve enhanced it.
      
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      July 31, 2021 2:38pm
Maggie's partner

4.35pm Friday July 30 2021
An unique moment in modern NZ history. Remember where you were at this extraordinary time.

Neither the Herald nor Stuff have a picture of Jacinda Ardern anywhere on their homepages
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July 30, 2021 4:36pm
- tf78
  
  Maggie’s – I was wondering if she’s had a reaction to her second jab – awkward!
  
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  July 30, 2021 7:36pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING….

Another stabbing in Mt Roskill…police have just arrived on the scene
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July 30, 2021 4:44pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, coudn’t they at least have waited until the vaccine roll out was finished? Now people will be terrified of going out to these tent cities.
  
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  July 30, 2021 5:17pm
- Swifty
  
  Hope SB2 is ok.
  
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  July 30, 2021 5:36pm
RW Capitalist

Is it me or does it appear, the govt. is attacking supermarkets just as inflation raises it’s head.
ie blame someone else for their failed economic policies
But ….not surprised, they did the same after they raised the petrol tax…to the oil industry.
Some maths for ya.
Nobody is arguing that supermarkets only make about 2.5%.
Lets put that another way
For a franchise holder of a supermarket to take home minimum wage equivalent, they need to turn over about $3mill turn over.
Remember the business pays 28% tax and a minimum wage earner pays <15% tax.
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July 30, 2021 5:06pm
Maggie Pie

Just heard the interview on ZB with HDPA and Kris Farfooi.

Not sure Kris realises Heather is taking the piss 😀
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July 30, 2021 5:27pm
fernglas

I know it’s late in the day, but has anyone heard a journalist ask Ardern whether this ISIS woman has had to pre-book a place in MIQ like every other New Zealander, or is she getting preferential treatment?
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July 30, 2021 5:59pm
RW Capitalist

WOW…how underwhelming 3500 jabs in a day when they said 16000…now they say over the weekend.
Maths:
150 days till the end of the year
3000000 people needing vaccines to get to 75% vaccinated.
6000000 jabs
ie 40000…PER DAY
to achieve the only goal they have mentioned (end of the year)
at this rate (3500) per day (when we focus hard).
5 years (10 x 150 days)
Sounds more like “kiwibuild” every day.
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July 30, 2021 6:25pm
- MCos
  
  A quarter of a million jabs are being administered this week. Three hundred thousand in about three weeks. If my reading of this info is correct.
  https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/covid_vaccinations_27_07_2021.xlsx
  
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  July 31, 2021 3:40pm
CAKE FACE1

“Pray away the gay” and get five years in the slammer?

Sounds harsh to me…
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July 30, 2021 7:38pm
Cobolt24

TOP reaches 3% in new Roy Morgan poll:
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8759-nz-national-voting-intention-july-2021-202107300142

Lefties who voted Labour for improving housing might be getting sick of them and find the Greens are too repulsive?
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