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Happychappy

You keep seeing headlines like this from Labour but you never get the actual figure of how many have been built in 2021: Fresh Porirua investment could see up to 2,000 new homes built.
But just like Kiwibuld no one is giving the exact number of homes that have been built in 2021 that were commissioned by our Government.
The closest figure you can get is 4180 new dwellings have been consented but you cant get the number the Government has achieved.
Maybe our wannabe political expert Brian McDonald could help as he continually goes out of his way to criticize my post about Jacinda Ardern and the Labour Government even though I normally attache links to the story and give my opinion which is what blogs are for, so can he come up with the figure of how many houses have been built in the 2021 commissioned by the Labour Government up to the end of June 2021.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/125732214/fresh-porirua-east-investment-could-see-up-to-2000-new-homes-built
It’s great to see projects like the Porirua investment being made but like Kiwibuild and Labours fraudulent statements the houses are not built , how can you trust Labour or our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Megan Woods to to carry out their promises on housing after the utter shambles and lies they have told since 2017 on housing.
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July 15, 2021 8:00am
- WaveyDavey
  
  You really shouldn’t give that [deleted] murderer a thought
  
  Best ignored and if he had a shred of decency in him he’d live in purdah for the rest of his benighted life
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:28am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    [Deleted – made your (incorrect) point once. Mod.]
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:30am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      What incorrect point – he killed a 17yo girl when he shot her in the head
      
      True he was trying to kill someone else, but he was found guilty of murder in a court of law of the girl
      
      “In New Zealand a person is considered a child or “minor” until the age of 20.”
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_rights_in_New_Zealand
      
      ergo he murdered a child
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:49am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Did you ask for my post about the baby whale to be deleted?
        Go read the Privy Council decision then start writing under your own name.
        
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        July 15, 2021 9:56pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Actually the Privy Council file gives a useful precis of the case
        
        You know the one where your appeal was rejected
        
        But I’m happy to link to it so that other KB posters can see what you actually did
        
        https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5b2897cf2c94e06b9e19b95e
        
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        July 15, 2021 11:02pm
- you reap what you sow
  
  Almost turning into comedy ; all about slogans and no action
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/national-outraged-after-mongrel-mob-rehab-scheme-kahukura-gets-2-75-million-in-funding.html
  
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  July 15, 2021 6:47pm
fernglas

Newsroom does the figures:
“The rollout hasn’t been proportionate across ethnic groups either. Even though Māori make up some 16 percent of the population, just 9.5 percent of the doses distributed so far have gone to Māori.”
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/charting-new-zealands-vaccine-rollout
A Maori health advocate sees this as a call to focus even more on vaccinating Maori:
“Māori make up 16.7 per cent of New Zealand’s population but just 7.5 per cent of the fully-vaccinated population, health researcher Dr Rawiri Taonui said.
“It’s been five or six weeks now that I’ve been tracking it and Māori rates are just limping along. It’s not good enough.” https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300250582/covid19-vaccine-14-million-doses-given-first-mass-jab-event-planned-for-auckland
But according to Health, in the general population, those over 60 comprise about 20% of the general population. Amongst Maori, the figure is about 9%.
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/populations/maori-health/tatau-kahukura-maori-health-statistics/tatauranga-taupori-demographics/age-structure

So Maori are actually doing at least as well as, if not better than, the general population if we assume that 60 is the age from which people should have been vaccinated. Of course, they haven’t been, but that’s another story.
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July 15, 2021 8:00am
- rouppe
  
  And it ignores the fact that in any given cohort vaccination has been as available to Maori as anyone else.
  
  That Maori are (appearing to be) under represented is down to them, not any (implied) racism
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:11am
- insider
  
  They also keep repeating the bogus information that Maori and Polynesians are more likely to suffer from COVID-19.
  
  It’s a nonsense. There is no genetic preference by the virus. It’s all about co morbidities. A healthy Maori or pasifika person is at the same risk as a healthy pakeha and lower risk than a pakeha who is fat with heart disease and lung issues from smoking.
  
  But the mantra has to be chanted.
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:38am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, IMO this Maori preference in the pecking order was bought about by the Maori Caucus not wanting to put themselves at risk before the He Puapua Report/Plan was fully implemented then they would be known as martyrs.
    
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    July 15, 2021 12:32pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Spanish flu killed about 10x as many polynesians as europeans – 150 years after Europeans showed up. Polynesian evolution was not subject to these pathogens until the last few centuries. It is highly likely that polynesians will have worse mortality from Covid.
    
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    July 15, 2021 1:08pm
    - Nickc2
      
      It is equally highly likely that Polynesians will have better immunity and thus lower mortality.
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

George Floyd mural struck by lightning? This has gotta be Trump’s fault, they have just not found out why yet/
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July 15, 2021 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/14/george-floyd-mural-toledo-crumbles-after-possible-lightning-strike/7963155002/
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:04am
  - tf78
    
    Steve, yep, definitely an act of God.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:15am
- Kneel
  
  I think those red “Make Paradise Great Again” hats could be a clue
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Antifa and BLM only wear those hats when they are imposters.
    Btw, I have about 6 of them, would you like one?
    
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    July 15, 2021 1:27pm
- kowtow
  
  Mother Nature systemically racist?
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:14am
- Rich Prick
  
  The good Lord’s work.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:30am
  - Choose an agenda, frame the debate, claim your comments are innocent
    
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    Why are you hating on George Floyd? The poor guy was murdered.
    
    Get a grip.
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:24am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      George Floyd was an evil person. You can disagree with the violence from the Police against him and still be against him being treated as some sort of idol.
      
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      July 15, 2021 12:53pm
    - cmm
      
      Murdered, maybe.
      
      Poor guy – never. He was the worst sort of evil and needed harvesting.
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:01pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Bollocks, he died of a Fentanyl overdose. Chauvin was oblivious to the danger and unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and behaved in what he obviously felt was a reasonable manner given all the cameras he knew were on him – no Mens Rea. – He has been railroaded in a show trial to appease race-baiting grifters and the irrational mob they lead.
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:18pm
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Chauvin is a spaced out coward.
        
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        July 15, 2021 9:59pm
- cmm
  
  So Fentanyl doesn’t stop lightning?
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:37am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Stops your breath . . .
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:13am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Fentanyl does stop you breathing though. Floyd had enough of that and Meth to jumpstart a bulldozer
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:41am
- coge
  
  CNN blames climate change.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:52am
- Libertarians are right
  
  I’m not a fan of religion but I do believe “God” is not a fan of false idols.
  
  Also, they could go the Thor way – a white, Nordic God, and blame it on racism.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:21am
- alloytoo
  
  Static?
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:44am
JibberJabber

Ohhh, look unintended #hatespeech consequences for someone who thinks her position gives her protected person status.

https://twitter.com/ArchRose90/status/1415348419472805892

Classic sorry not sorry, racism, sexism apology.
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July 15, 2021 8:06am
- WaveyDavey
  
  Completely omitting the reasons for the IDF action of course and absolving Hamas and the Palestinians of any responsibility
  
  The reason being the kidnap, torture and death of 3 Israelis – 2 only 16 years old
  
  https://www.idf.il/en/articles/operation-brother-s-keeper/operation-brother-s-keeper-4-years-later/
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:43am
mandk

I had lunch yesterday with my youngest, now a first year at university.

He was a bit downcast because he had recently been to the funeral of one of his high school mates, who had committed suicide.

His mate was struggling post school, and had retreated to his bedroom to smoke more and more dope. He was also retreating further and further into a dark place, from which he could see no escape and where no one could reach him.

I’m not saying that cannabis caused his death, but it was clearly a factor.

And some people argue that cannabis is a benign recreational drug. I will never accept that is true.
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July 15, 2021 8:08am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Cannabis definitely is not benign. However it behaves differently in most users and is particularly damaging in youth. It can produce very erratic behaviour, anxiety, loss of will, reduction in mental capacity and academic performance can be munted.
  Worse still it often leads on to “tasting” other drugs.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:46am
  - Pharmachick
    
    @Kev the idea of “gateway drugs”, and in particular Cannabis as a gateway drug; is a myth invented by the Nixon Administration and their war on drugs. People by nature (genetics), nurture (environment), or a combination of both are equally likely to misuse any addictive substance, others are not. Kinda like what cmm said. I’m not arguing that cannabis is benign, I just hate it when propaganda becomes part of the firmament.
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:23am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Hmm…
      
      Mebbes aye, mebbes no
      
      My initial weed use definitely led to my use of my drug of choice: cocaine (and speed when gak was unavailable)
      
      Mainly because I loathe the effect cannabis had on me – serious anxiety
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:33am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Yeah, but you kinda made my point. Coke is your drug of choice but you [did] use speed and weed right. So that was your genes going “do drugs, feels good [except when it doesn’t]” and your environment going “this is available now, this is the drug I’ll do”. Weed is 100% legal here, I’m still not interested [OTOH just you try and take away my single malt…] 😉
        
        Random impertinent fact about coke & NZ: Nature did a world review of coke in the early 00s and they looked as cost/use patterns… they had to add two ticks backwards on the X axis (low usage) and two ticks upwards on the Y axis (cost) of the graph just to get NZ onto the graph! (Which was still more accurate than certain MoH infographics of late). The UK & US on the other hand…
        
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        July 15, 2021 12:22pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Not exactly. I tried dope maybe 3 times and moved on to coke courtesy of my dealer (so def a gateway there as I wouldn’t have had a dealer if not for weed) and speed was only ever a fallback when coke wasn’t available
        
        This was back in the UK where it was actually cheaper to supply the marching powder for a night out than to buy a round of drinks
        
        My point is that moving in drug circles makes it easier to move from weed to other harder drugs
        
        Now you can argue that’s because of the illegality aspect but nonetheless weed led me to coke, speed, E, acid, angel dust, crack and heroin
        
        And evidence from Canada has shown that since legalisation of weed illegal supply hasn’t diminished. In fact the only way the legal supply works is by massive state subsidy
        
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        July 15, 2021 3:42pm
    - mandk
      
      It doesn’t apply to all users, but druggies often mix cannabis with other drugs. And they generally start with cannabis.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:35am
    - Bluegrass
      
      Point taken re folk wired to addiction, but I would argue that the gateway thing is not a myth at all. There is a broader context.
      
      Mary Jane is a gateway drug in the context that in those jurisdictions where it is illegal it exposes the user to pushers and the drug market place, with loss leaders.
      
      And when young, peer-group pressure can be hard to resist.
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:49pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I’ve seen it in my own family: cannabis being offered as a starter by a dealer.
      
      Another to watch out for is booze in 11 year olds. That can be a calamity. A prominent public health doc’s wife lured my boy away for the weekend and got him sozzled. He became a permanent alcy.
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:49pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        I’m genuinely sorry to hear that Kev. You are kindof making my point tho (similar to Wavey) …alcohol is a drug. What happened to your 11 year old was terrible, it was a combination of his genes being “yeah do this” and the environment where he was provided the initial drug of choice (alcohol). Weed is no more or less likely to lead to coke or meth or speed or shrooms than each of them are to lead to each other. When the genetic and environmental evnironments collide – BOOM.
        
        At some point if DPF and you all are interested maybe I’ll do a guest post or just something in GD (might get a bit tl:dr) on the physical, neural and psychosocial aspects of addiction.
        
        In case you were wondering:
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30064290/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30210343/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26524802/
        https://medcraveonline.com/PPIJ/does-methamphetamine-abuse-affect-serotonin-signaling-in-the-maternal-placental-fetal-system.html
        
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        July 15, 2021 2:12pm
      - sooty
        
        Was she a labour party hack?
        
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        July 15, 2021 10:30pm
    - Graeme Hall
      
      I’m not sure how you can dismiss the hypothesis of a “gateway” drug simply by stating people by nature are equally likely to misuse any addictive substance. I never believed in “gateway drugs” until there was a Cannabis shortage at one time in the Eighties. Those sorely in need of a puff resorted to vacuuming the carpet for any detritus (!), then trying Morning Glory seeds & opioids to get high. People knew the risks but only went to harder drugs when they couldn’t get their drug of choice. One individual did later get addicted to heroine.
      
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      July 15, 2021 4:15pm
    - Aurelia
      
      In my experience alcohol is THE gateway drug.
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:03pm
- cmm
  
  While dope is clearly not benign this young man could easily have gone into an equally bad place with booze.
  
  IMHO the biggest issue (though perhaps not relevant here) is that because dope is illegal people must interact with the criminal element to procure it. Once they’re doing that then it is far more likely they will be up sold onto far worse substances (meth etc).
  
  “Gee bro, you look down today, why don’t you also try some xxxxx… Here’s a taster. Free.”
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:57am
  - mandk
    
    Yes, he might have gone into an equally bad place with booze. And he might also have become less melancholic, if his drug of choice was alcohol.
    
    Regardless, I think anyone is on shaky ground if they implicitly argue that, because one harmful substance is legal, another should also be legal.
    
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    July 15, 2021 4:27pm
artemisia

The government is copping criticism for denying funding to students who have diverse learning needs and then blocking parents from paying for it themselves.

The angry parent said it is widespread for parents to chip in for teacher aides.

But seems it is unlawful. Not to worry the Min of Ed will “bring them (schools) back in line with legislation”.

Deputy secretary for sector enablement and support Helen Hurst will be busy making sure angry parents will be brought back in line. Sorry kids.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/446859/govt-questioned-over-funding-for-students-with-diverse-learning-needs
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July 15, 2021 8:08am
- alloytoo
  
  Once again the government fails to understand supply and demand.
  
  If they attempt to reduce supply they will create a black market.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:48am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Diverse learning needs includes those who being potentially more able need more too.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:49am
zulumonster

Lovely cartoon by Jim Hubbard this morning in Stuff. Holding the Opposition to account is such a chore for the media!
I wonder what animal Jacinda would be portrayed as if he ever deemed it appropriate to characterise her in such a way? That’s if he were a balanced and fair commentator of course.
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July 15, 2021 8:08am
Maggie Pie

I see OneEwes reporting that a Billboard erected by SUFW on the side of a building in Wellington, has been taken down after a complaint that it was….. ‘anti-trans’.

The message…

‘WOMAN (noun)
adult
human
female’

Anybody else have a problem with that?
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July 15, 2021 8:09am
- Ehlana
  
  I have a problem with making half the population invisible in our language in order to make a tiny percentage of the other half of our population happy.
  
  If a trans person is what you are, that is your journey and you should own it. But trying to obliterate the group you claim to identify with doesn’t make sense to me. The physiological differences are real as are the differences in lived experience. Why is it so important to deny this?
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:19am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    They don’t like it because the discourse they are trying to cement is:
    
    ‘Trans woman’ and ‘Cis woman’ are equal subsets of ‘Woman’.
    
    If ‘cis women’ refer to themselves just as ‘women’ they are assuming superiority to, and legitimacy over ‘trans women’. Because they self identify as ‘natural’ women ie homogeneity between psychological and physiological attributes.
    
    I don’t care what anyone else calls themselves but I refuse to enter into some kind of subset scenario. I was born a female, I am a woman. Nothing else.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:42am
- Benedict Yu
  
  This started with Posie Parker in the UK. She put up a bunch of billboards with the Oxford dictionary definition of “woman”. They were all taken down.
  
  This is Posie interviewing the Wellington billboard organiser.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTSmXdyq1Vk
  
  Posie got into a bunch of trouble by saying stuff on social media. For example a mother took her 16 year old son to Thailand for a sex change operation. Posie commented on Facebook that the woman had taken her son to Thailand to be castrated. Which is obviously an accurate statement. She was questioned by police who recommended to prosecutors that she be charged with hate speech. Ultimately the charges were dropped.
  
  This latest episode in Wellington is a classic example of what the police will face under any new hate speech regime. IMO they will be inclined to prosecute in cases like the Wellington billboard incident and let the courts decide.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:29am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is also worth reflecting on the experience of Colin Wright, an evolutionary biologist. He asserted that there were two sexes, male and female. He effectively lost his career.
    
    https://youtu.be/ncF-ZbfVR2w
    
    It is a great interview with him. I recommend it. He acknowledges that trans people are real. But argues that it is effectively a psychological problem that people need help with.
    
    He is great to listen to.
    
    Similarly, this will be the experience of any scientist who works for the government or academia or schools who asserts that there is no separate “Maori Science”.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:53am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Science is not a perpetual ferment about attribution to what might be described as referring to cultural memorabilia. It’s actually the cohesive gathering and testing of currently observed states. Not very Hawaiki.
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:59am
    - Pharmachick
      
      There is no separate Maori Science.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:25am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Oooh you silly, you did a racism. Thou shalt not express any thought that runs counter to the doctrine of Maori wonderfulness and primacy in all things.
        
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        July 15, 2021 1:28pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        How’s it going in Outer Rower these days Urban? Sounds a bit stressful…
        
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        July 15, 2021 2:38pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Unpleasant and deteriorating. Like being in the middle of a flock of sheep stampeding towards a cliff.
        
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        July 15, 2021 3:27pm
    - Pharmachick
      
      Just a thought for you all. There is a concept called “tenure”. It makes it very, very hard to fire an academic unless they have done something egregious (the standard is generally along the lines of capital crimes, sex abuse or large scale fraud/embezzlement from the University [from elsewhere and its a toss up]).
      
      NZ abolished tenure and replaced with rolling 5-7 year contracts in the late 1990s.
      
      Tenure isn’t perfect and it does tend to produce a certain amount of what is known colloquially in the business as “dead wood”. But the flip side of this, is that tenure also allows people to have very unpopular opinions and even express them out loud in class or in papers. It also allows research into areas that otherwise might have them fired for political or big business interests, that can be of wider social or scientific benefit.
      
      Disclaimer: I am tenured.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:58am
      - cmm
        
        PC: I would be interested in your opinion on this….
        
        Sure, once you’ve got tenure you’re pretty secure but what about the road to getting tenure? Who are the gate keepers of tenure status?
        
        Are those hoping for tenure silencing themselves and brown-nosing the keepers of tenure to keep themselves on track for tenure?
        
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        July 15, 2021 1:09pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Perceptive cmm, very perceptive. The longest a tenure clock can be is 6 years (there are extensions for family leave, major leaves (eg medical) etc). I *have* heard Assistant Professors (= Lecturers) say I don’t know if I want to comment on that in public as I’m not tenured yet. But less and less often these days. And they’re definitely more empowered to maybe not blast away in public, but to talk to senior leadership, concerns from junior faculty are taken way more seriously these days.
        
        In the before-times tenure granting was a tad more nebulous, there’s be a departmental committee, then Chair signs off, then Dean, then it goes to the University wide committee, then you get your letter from the Prez (vice chancellor in NZ). This is still roughly the process, but before there were generalized expectations, but it could vary widely.
        
        These days with the litigious nature of [almost everybody] the dossiers we hand in (mine ran to 300 pages) are highly metricized into teaching, teaching evaluations, papers published, grants successfully landed, public outreach, service on committees or for societies etc. Teaching awards, research awards, letters from students/public bodies etc. It is a much fairer and easy to navigate process – the dossier bit still sucks though, takes FOR EVER to assemble. A very good example is that a person would have to be a complete as*hole for the old “issues with collegiality” chestnut to come into play.
        
        make sense?
        
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        July 15, 2021 1:36pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Tenure is a great thing, a wonderful motivator in the form of freedom to explore ideas for the best and brightest of academics – with payoff of productive research for society (at least in STEM fields) – otherwise all those brains end up chasing dollars in industry with probably less payoff for society as a whole. America got rich on the back of it during the early to mid 20th century when academia was expanding rapidly and there was too much bureaucratic capture. Sadly now there are far too many PhDs chasing far too few positions, creating a treadmill of low paid post-Doc work and gate-keeping administrations and political correctness have been elevated in status and control far beyond any value they add to academia.
        
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        July 15, 2021 2:16pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Urban – You win Kiwiblog comments* for the day.
        
        * STEM section.
        
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        July 15, 2021 2:41pm
      - cmm
        
        Thanks PC, yup that makes sense.
        
        I suppose that anyone going into an academic track either knows the game and is willing to go along with it or at least to keep their head low for 6+ years.
        
        I can see why there are many ways why this has both upsides and downsides to rolling contracts that everyone else must deal with.
        
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        July 15, 2021 3:54pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is also worth reflecting on the experience of Colin Wright, an evolutionary biologist. He asserted that there were two sexes, male and female. He effectively lost his career.
    
    https://youtu.be/ncF-ZbfVR2w
    
    It is a great interview with him. I recommend it. He acknowledges that trans people are real. But argues that it is effectively a psychological problem that people need help with.
    
    He is great to listen to.
    
    Similarly, this will be the experience of any scientist who works for the government or academia or schools who asserts that there is no separate “Maori Science”.
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:55am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Apologies for duplicate posts.
      
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      July 15, 2021 12:55pm
- Rich Prick
  
  CABBAGE (noun)
  Vegetable.
  
  Please explain why one is a “hate crime” and the second is merely a statement of fact. I suspect the difference involves “feelings”.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:35am
  - Nickc2
    
    You are correct IMO. Beware, this is just the beginning. Hate Speech will get passed by our Govt despite the fact they can’t or won’t define Hate Speech.
    It’s all about control over the masses (us peasants).
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:43am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And wasn’t it Gareth Morgan that said…
    
    “You can put lipstick on a pig. But it’s still a pig”
    
    Don’t recall him being called….. anti-trans.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:51am
    - jacob
      
      It was a horse, not a pig
      
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      July 15, 2021 8:55am
    - Tall Man
      
      You think ardern is a transisitor?
      
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      July 15, 2021 8:59am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a sour sow.
      
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      July 15, 2021 9:24am
  - oldfella
    
    RP, you missed out a bit.
    CABBAGE (noun)
    Vegetable.
    votes Labour.
    There, fixed it for you. 😉
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:02am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    You are hurting the feelings of cauliflower. Take it down now.
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:29am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, but…
    
    are you willing to accept that green cabbage, red cabbage, Savoy cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, Brussel sprouts, kale, gai lan and kohl rabi are all the same species?
    
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    July 15, 2021 4:07pm
- insider
  
  Coming to NZ soon when the government changes id and hate laws. It will be hateful to call a man a man, even if a paedophile, even in a police description
  
  https://twitter.com/CP24/status/1415039236282232835?s=20
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:43am
- herb1
  
  If there was a fair and unbiased media in this country they’d ask Prime Announcer Ardern if this would be considered hate speech under her new legislation
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Cubans flying the American Flag, calling for ‘Freedom’
Biden says they are begging for vaccine supplies – idiot
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July 15, 2021 8:09am
- virtualmark
  
  Really?
  
  That’s not what his formal statement says at all … https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/07/12/statement-by-president-joseph-r-biden-jr-on-protests-in-cuba/
  
  And when he was speaking to journalists, televised, he “addressed what he called “the remarkable protests” in Cuba of people “demanding their freedom from an authoritarian regime. And I don’t think we’ve seen anything like this protest in a long, long time — if, quite frankly, ever. And the United States stands firmly with the people of Cuba as they assert their universal rights, and we call on the government, the government of Cuba, to refrain from violence and their attempts to silence the voice of the people of Cuba,” he said.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:16am
  - Inandout
    
    Virt, this could temporarily stall Joe’s dementia. Apparently stimulation like this is good treatment, almost a JFK nuclear rocket site moment…well a moment anyway.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:37am
  - David George
    
    Fair enough but I’m sure “Grandpa Simpson” didn’t write that himself.
    MCos: “blockade of Cuba has been a disaster for the Cuban people”
    A variation on the same nonsense trotted out to explain Venezuela or all the inevitable Marxist disasters that have blighted the world over the past 100 years.
    Cuba has been free to trade with the rest of the world, China and Russia in particular.
    
    “In desperation, I turned to the website of the Cuban Solidarity Campaign, where I found this statement. It acknowledges there have been “some street protests” that “took place against the scarcity of food, medicines and power supplies.” However, the statement mostly consists of a diatribe against the US and its decades-long trade embargo.
    
    If the protests continue, expect this to become the standard line for regime sympathisers in the UK. It’s all the fault of those damned Yankees, you see. Definitely nothing to do with a visibly failing communist regime, whose autocratic, incompetent rule Cubans are so desperate to be free of.
    
    To be clear, I think the US embargo is ridiculous and should go — but it can’t be blamed for the current crisis. Most obviously, Cuba can and does trade with the rest of the world. Also, isn’t America supposed to be an evil capitalist vampire whose corporations grow fat by sucking dry the developing world? If that’s true, then surely not trading with America makes Cuba richer.
    
    In any case, it’s not the Americans who centrally-manage the Cuban economy, but the country’s undemocratic government.
    
    Time, then, for the Left to do decide who they want to express ‘solidarity with’ — the Cuban people or their dictators. ”
    https://unherd.com/thepost/why-wont-the-left-express-solidarity-with-cuba/
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:41am
    - oldfella
      
      If the protesters in Cuba are portrayed as demonstrating for ‘Trans’ rights, the world will leap to their aid. And feel noble for doing it.
      But if they’re only protesting for basic freedoms… nah, bro. /s
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:04am
    - Fletch
      
      The Left had a history of praising Castro. CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc…
      
      https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/geoffrey-dickens/2021/07/14/flashback-media-enabled-castros-brutal-communist-regime
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:09am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yeah yeah yeah, straight from the Whitehouse, would you expect anything else that Joe’s propaganda?
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:00am
    - virtualmark
      
      But when you say “Biden says they are begging for vaccine supplies – idiot” that’s not propaganda??? Or politically motivated bullshit? Or plucked completely from your …???
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:57am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Idiot means exactly that. Biden is an idiot. Also a commie
        
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        July 15, 2021 1:31pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Meanwhile, in the real world, I’d be sure that Biden knows far more about how things are than Steve Otto from the North Shore does. And I haven’t seen anything in his voting record that says he’s a commie.
        
        Man, you’ve got to get away from the slogans, actually engage your brain, and take a dispassionate view of the facts.
        
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        July 15, 2021 4:24pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Note: Not a mention from our MSM or our socialist princess……curious.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:29am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Gone very quiet. Maybe she should visit Cuba, to find out what she is doing to NZ?
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:02am
- MCos
  
  It’s always seemed to me the long American blockade of Cuba has been a disaster for the Cuban people, but a bonus for their authoritarian leaders.
  Look at the countries that are ostracized and their leaders tightened their grip while the locals suffer.
  The blockade on Cuba for however many decades did nothing to loosen the hold of the Castros, while the country turned into a car museum.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:52am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Well they could export their well trained nurses here and teachers as a matter of fact.
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:50am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      NZ socialist heads would explode. Imagine NZ teachers not being able to indoctrinate the children to vote Labour
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:34pm
    - Jack5
      
      Maths teachers especially, please Captain.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:04pm
Brian McDonald

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Hat tip to the great people helping baby Toa with his fight.
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July 15, 2021 8:09am
- Peter nickle
  
  [Deleted – casual racism. Mod.]
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:14am
- kowtow
  
  Not a baby , a calf.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:18am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  I would go a great shout out to the hundreds of medical professionals fighting to save young ones afflicted with RSV made dramatically worse by government policy.
  I would also give a shout out to the medical professionals that have to sit back and watch babies die through government policy.
  Obviously Toa, is much more important than human life, very sad, maybe Toa’s mum had decided she no longer wanted her baby to live.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:34am
  - tf78
    
    Maybe Toa is ill and was caste off by the pod, that’s what happens in the animal kingdom. Did anyone ever think about that.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Toa’s Mum must be one of those planned parenthood types/
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:15am
    - alloytoo
      
      Trying to save the planet?
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:53am
- Adroit
  
  Must be difficult when families – of any species – lose their young ones.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:38am
  - Nickc2
    
    That’s a big assumption Adroit. Eskimos didn’t find any difficulty at all when putting their unwanted female children out on the ice to die. Maybe this juvenile Orca was unwanted by its pod?
    BTW, who’s paying the bill for all this rescue stuff?
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:33am
    - cmm
      
      Quite: Tearful bambi stories are just anthropomorphisms. Many animals don’t give a damn about their offspring dying.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:01am
      - Pharmachick
        
        An Orca off the coast of BC carried her dead calf for two weeks couple years back. No doubt some animals don’t care, no doubt that others do.
        
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        July 15, 2021 11:29am
      - Nickc2
        
        Pharmachick @ 11:29AM
        Sorry Pharmachick, I Reported you by mistake. Anyhow, I do agree with you about some animals etc. The Female of the Human species is renowned for it (just joking else I get canceled).
        
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        July 15, 2021 11:37am
      - crikey
        
        Cmm: “Many animals don’t give a damn about their offspring dying.”
        
        That’s very interesting cmm. I’d like to know more about your communications with animals so I can apply those skills.
        
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        July 15, 2021 11:58am
      - cmm
        
        crikey: Many animals will eat their young given half a chance.
        
        Shoot a bunny baby and mummy bunny will not burst into tears.
        
        Sure, some animals will grieve. For example baboons etc will carry around dead babies and play dolly with them for a while.
        
        But even the most emotional are nowhere near as emotional as humans.
        
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        July 15, 2021 1:14pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  What was wrong with calling him Rocky?
  
  What is Toa stoneage for?
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:16am
- Loddenthinks
  
  It’s not a baby, nor is it a whale, and it doesn’t have a name. Neither is it in a fight, nor in any kind of distress.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:18am
- coge
  
  Half waiting for the PM to wade in here.
  
  Remember these are animals in the wild, only they will know what’s happened. The pod concerned didn’t stick around. Whether the beaching was an accident, or intentional we’ll possibly never know.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:26am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    More important than deliberately leaving full term infant humans to die in a hospital room. Hospitality or murder?
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:04am
- Prince
  
  Hat tip to the family of the 85 year old ChCh woman missing for 4 nights in the freezing cold.
  Police suspended their search on Tuesday, family continue the search.
  If only DoC was responsible for the elderly.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:29am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is pretty clear that her husband should not have been driving. They seem to have set off on some imagined errand in the middle of the night and could not find their way back home. She then got out of the car and wandered off. Very sad. Recent nights have been well below freezing.
    
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    July 15, 2021 2:20pm
kevn

Herald and Stuff running protection this morning. As instructed.
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July 15, 2021 8:11am
rangitoto

Skippy has revealed the plan. They are using a spare Tardis.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/coronavirus-baffling-graph-showed-twice-as-many-second-vaccine-doses-as-first.html
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July 15, 2021 8:13am
- Sacha
  
  OMG.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:42am
- RW Capitalist
  
  I have 2 similar opinions of Mr Hipkins
  1. That I have weatherboards on my house smarter than this man.
  2. That he is a modern scientific miracle, that any mammal with that lower brain function, could still be breathing.
  
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  July 15, 2021 5:43pm
Yvette

Matariki
Traditionally, it is a time to acknowledge the dead and release their spirits to become stars. It also allows time to reflect, be thankful to the gods for the harvest, and share food with family and friends.
New Zealand will celebrate Matariki as a public holiday for the first time on June 24, 2022. The date will change to align with the maramataka – the Māori lunar calendar – and will shift annually between June and July.
Writer and social activist Qiane Matata-Sipu says when Matariki arrives each year, it shouldn’t be Westernised and commercialised – and she doesn’t want to see stars for sale in department stores.
“If we’re going to be celebrating Matariki, we need to be celebrating the indigenous practice and the indigenous systems and indigenous knowledge,” she told The Hui on Monday.
“It’s an opportunity for us to learn about Te Ao Māori in a different way, for us to wānanga together, to share kai together, to learn the different ingoa of the whetū [names of the stars], so slow down. [There are] just so many other practices that we should be doing.” [1]

No, thank you. I am inlined to give star worship a miss but as Ardern has decreed an extra public holiday, I will decide what I do with it, and permit everyone else to do the same.

Qiane Matata-Sipu’s core competencies are apparently marketing, public relations and communications consultation.
It is hard to believe that she thinks Matariki will not be “Westernised and commercialised”.
But Ardern has put it out there – talk to her, Qiane Matata-Sipu, if your star worship is desecrated.
Although “hate speech” laws may offer some protection, when they finally get around to defining it.

[1] https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/07/matariki-shouldn-t-be-dominated-by-commercialisation-western-ideas-once-it-s-a-public-holiday-social-activist.html
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July 15, 2021 8:13am
- krazykiwi
  
  … she doesn’t want to see stars for sale in department stores
  
  Department stores? How cute. And if she doesn’t want see these stars “for sale”, she’d better get in touch with Subaru. Apparently their logo is the same star constellation.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:12am
  - cmm
    
    But democracy for sale – no worries there!
    
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    July 15, 2021 1:16pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Henceforth, Subaru vehicles will be referred to as Matariki vehicles in NZ as decreed by the Govt’s Maori Caucus.
    Watch this space.
    
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    July 15, 2021 1:43pm
    - Jack5
      
      Yep, “Subaru” is the Japanese word for “the Pleiades”, or “the Seven Sisters”, which are among Western countries’ names for the star constellation Messier 45, and which Maori call Matariki.
      
      International names, and some legends, about this
      star cluster:
      
      https://cayelincastell.com/the-pleiades/
      
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      July 15, 2021 5:09pm
- Dougal10
  
  Its already westernized as it will always be on a friday or a monday .
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:23am
- Paulus
  
  Looking forward to Matariki Sales next year.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:42am
  - oldfella
    
    What would Matariki Sales look like?
    Special offers on ‘authentic’ – made in China – plastic tikis and pois?
    Portable hangi pits for those too lazy to dig the real thing?
    Genuine chicken-feather ‘Moa’ cloaks?
    Oh, the mind boggles.
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:15am
    - BeaB
      
      Long pig?
      
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      July 15, 2021 12:59pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Pagan religion. What is our govt doing promoting that? Are they, ignorantly, bringing a curse on New Zealand?
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:08am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    A curse you say Kev? Well I for one place no importance on curses, and I openly laugh in their face.
    
    Why, if there is a god, and my mocking him/her/it offends the gods may they strike me you down at once!
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:50pm
- BeaB
  
  It’s matariki resulting from that guy having sex with his grandmother that worries me. How can we explain that to the kids?
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:59pm
slightlyrighty

I see that he morning paper in Wellington is full of critical articles against National.

I’m starting to think that this is not a trend, but part of an organised resistance against the national party, on the part of politically aligned journalists.

and if you think that this is a conspiracist fantasy, remember that this exact thing happened in Canada in 2019.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-media-union-wont-stop-attacking-andrew-scheer
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July 15, 2021 8:14am
- Sacha
  
  You are late to the party, slightlyrighty, but do come in.
  We are all watching.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:45am
- KevO'Brien
  
  $105M is small change to this govt to keep the Opposition out of power,
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:09am
Maggy Wassilieff

Why did the Government give $15M to a landlord who provided inadequate emergency housing?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018803968/top-earning-emergency-housing-provider-owes-thousands-in-wage-subsidies-tax

Who from the Ministry Of Social Development checks on the condition of the Emergency housing?
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July 15, 2021 8:14am
- Happychappy
  
  You would have thought the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Finance Minister Grant Robertson would have had to sign it off before the payment was made so where was the due diligence that should have been required before this payment was made.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:22am
  - Nickc2
    
    AFIK Happy, she has already admitted to signing the damned thing off, end of story.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:02am
- Ehlana
  
  I think quality control might be one of those colonial oppressor notions Maggy. Possibly also a capitalist oppression, since providing goods and services of merchantable quality is the sort of thing they do in the private sector.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:22am
tf78

Maggy, why the surprise? It’s only money.
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July 15, 2021 8:16am
Greg Ettridge

One has to really respect the Fiji Rugby team actually having a serious conversation about wearing a jersey with “Vaccinate Fiji” on it.
Adding “its your choice” is so refreshing to see.
It would be interesting how many of both NZ and Fiji teams are vaccinated with two jabs, and if it was compulsory to play.
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July 15, 2021 8:17am
- Simon
  
  Don’t listen to anyone else. You can trust us as a source of information […] we will continue to be your single source of truth!”
  
  https://twitter.com/dutchanddonts/status/1414833132822478849
  
  Ardern and the gubermint are the single source of truth. They are peeling apart.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:30am
- doggone7
  
  One would have thought that it being the readers choice was implicit.
  Does this mean the All Blacks will throw little tantrums today wanting their jerseys for Saturday to have “It’s your choice” added near Steinlager? And if they did what would the reaction be?
  
  I reckon most would say, “Get on with it, that’s the bloody jersey, if you don’t want to wear it bugger off, we’ll find someone who does.”
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:31am
  - oldfella
    
    Doggone, SBW got permission to cover up alcohol advertising on his AB jersey pleading his Muslim faith prohibited him promoting booze.
    Not sure if any of Christian Polynesian rugby players have tried the same thing. And how well that would be received.
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:20am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  I cannot believe that anyone would downtick this comment, but it is now a real reality.
  Not one person can have their own opinion that doesn’t agree with the governments carefully managed directives.
  Fiji has experienced a fairly stuffed up version of democratic rights for years, maybe they value their freedom of speech and their right to be heard more than many “free speech” haters in NZ.
  Whether they are right or wrong, they are entitled to free speech and their opinion.
  I applaud them.
  I read a whole pile of crap everyday, but I am happy to give people the right to their opinion, why should this be changed to one manipulated opinion.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:25am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Meh, just ignore. The narrative is “get vaccinated, or be alienated”. If you don’t fully buy in your alienation starts with a downtick.
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:36am
- crikey
  
  Should read “Vaccinate Fiji – it’s YOUR responsibility”.
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:07pm
kowtow

I see stuff still earning its pay .

Cartoon against Collins , while at least and finally the Herald have a go at the border testing/checking farce and the ODT shoes a mobster laundering money via the Beehive , well done.
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July 15, 2021 8:21am
Maggie Pie

My partner was just saying…. sounds like the shiny-arses on the board of ‘Mana Whanonga Pirimana Motuhake’ will be in for another good payday.

He had thought about applying for a seat on the Board himself, but needless to say the website never seems to have a vacancy.
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July 15, 2021 8:23am
- virtualmark
  
  I think you’ll find the board members are, in the first instance, found by the State Services Commission.
  
  (Who then recommend to the Minister of Justice, who then takes it to Cabinet, who then have it put through the House, who then take it to the GG, who then confirms the appointment)
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:30am
- lifesgood
  
  I don’t speak Maori, what does that mean?
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:30am
- Frank the tank
  
  Could you translate into English?
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://www.ipca.govt.nz/Site/about-us/what-we-stand-for.aspx
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:44am
Vory v zakone

From the Dept of Famous Quotes…

“We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”
JOE BIDEN, OCTOBER 24, 2020

“I don’t need you to get me elected. I need you once I’m elected.’
JOE BIDEN, OCTOBER 31, 2020

“It’s no longer just about who gets to vote. Or making it easier for eligible voters to vote. It’s about who gets to count the vote.”
JOE BIDEN, JULY 13, 2021

(but also attributed to Soviet Dictator Joseph Stalin ?)
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July 15, 2021 8:23am
- Batman
  
  Let’s take a stroll through these shall we?
  
  Quote 1: in reference to having an organised team to go out and challenge polling places in red areas attempting to close on time despite being required to accept everyone who is in line at closing time. Or seek injunctions to prevent crooked poll watchers spoiling voting.
  
  Quote 2: saying that its not just about election day but in fact about continuing support and pressure to push through policies in the face of opposition.
  
  Quote 3: recognising that Republicans are now the party of suppressing voters and making it harder to vote, in order to maintain minority control in their states, and they are willing to corrupt the counting of votes to do so.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:59am
  - alloytoo
    
    Bats, please don’t try to get into Biden’s head, we fear you might get lost in the void.
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:02am
  - oldfella
    
    I really enjoy your contributions, Bats. Always good for a laugh. 😉
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:23am
- Vory v zakone
  
  “recognising that Republicans are now the party of suppressing voters and making it harder to vote”
  Says who? The courts have dismissed the dotard Sleepy Joe’s Stasi AG and his bullshit complaints against voter suppression. There is no evidence to their claims and the authoritarian regime cannot produce one voter who has had their vote ‘suppressed’
  In fact the new voter integrity laws are designed to make it harder to CHEAT.
  The Demtards are panicking now as more states are showing FACTUAL evidence of voter fraud, and it maybe shown in as many as 13 states.
  #thebestisyettocome ?
  
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  July 15, 2021 6:18pm
Simon

Botched ro vaxx roll out, out of control gun crime, ruined housing market, new racist form of government, stagnant economy faced with rising interest rates, poor spending, zero covid – stuck in 2020. Too many balls to juggle for the clown show who have difficulty with catch and throw in the first place.
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July 15, 2021 8:24am
MrTips

Wow.

On top of the impending protests on the streets by thousands of NZers fed up with this govt shafting primary industries and SME operators, 10s of thousands of New Zealanders have signed a petition to remove Jacinda Ardern as PM. It won’t happen of course but it’s a fairly clear barometer that NZers are not happy with our so called leader and her leeches!!!

And with good reason.

https://www.change.org/p/the-governer-general-of-new-zealand-the-resignation-of-jacinda-ardern-as-new-zealand-s-prime-minister?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_29617423_en-AU%3A7&recruiter=795415399&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=G%3ESearch%3ESAP%3EW-EN%3ENonBrand%3EBroad-Match&fbclid=IwAR0UWbwfAX1vqNFejj99CepEbKzqL_JpCCdf4YB_5XDZNuKTYwTzlrY8dgs
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July 15, 2021 8:26am
CJames

Kim Hill back on Morning Report with Phillipa Tolley. Nice with the adults back in charge.
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July 15, 2021 8:28am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yeah Kim Hill can be a bit annoying but I would listen to her. That bloody Susie Fergusson is a piece of work.
  
  Talking of radio I got in the habit of listening to talk back on the radio for 15 minutes or so driving between clients. I used to listen to Sean Plunkett on magic talk radio. I thought he was good. Kind of guy you could have beer with. Next minute he is gone and replaced with two ? clowns. He must have offended someone. I doubt he left voluntarily. He seemed to enjoy his job. I hope he turns up on another radio show.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:35am
  - igm
    
    Plunkett was “managed out”, John Banks was dumped for allowing someone claiming maori were stone age . . . both have been a great loss to media, and replaced with woke sickly lefties . . . not worth a blurt. Bet their advertisers followed listeners. Stuff have been all out on Mark Richardson and Devlin . . . non wokesters.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:42am
  - hullkiwi
    
    He expressed understanding with regards to the John Banks stousch, next minute Magic are not renewing his contract….
    
    Corporate wokism does not sleep when it comes to advertising revenue….
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:50am
  - Tricati
    
    I was also a regular listener to Plunket’s show and after he had a BSA ruling against him over an interview he did with a Maori spokesperson regarding the road blocks during the initial covid lock-down, it appears he was a marked man. I heard the interview and he was fair and reasonable, but asking under what legal authority did they have the right to block the roads.
    He was also scathing of the lack of process regarding the lock-down, the lack of PPE and modelling that indicated 80,000 deaths. He also questioned heavily the politicizing of the daily covid updates by Ardern, especially leading up to the last election.
    It would appear the ‘Cancel Culture’ got him silenced.
    
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    July 15, 2021 8:58am
  - RoboRob
    
    I’m pretty sure he was removed for saying something the woke crowd thought was hurtfull,
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:46am
  - Paulus
    
    Hasn’t Susie been included with the Monday special media meeting now, where they are told what to say and do for the ensuing week – otherwise no wedding invitation.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:46am
  - Jack5
    
    Meanwhile NZME shares are still up about 16 per cent in the last two weeks.
    
    As well as the Herald and some regional newspapers, it owns Newstalk ZB among other radio brands (link below).
    
    Perhaps something’s astir in the NZ media world. Has someone noticed the market gap for the Right and Centre Right?
    
    NZME radio:
    
    https://www.nzme.co.nz/nzme-brands/radio/
    
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    July 15, 2021 12:40pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    I hope he turns up on another radio show.
    
    I understand he’s in discussions with another party right now.
    
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    July 15, 2021 4:05pm
- cas
  
  Yes if I’d realised she was on I would have listened. She holds people to account with some hard questions and has a nice touch of sarcasm. How Marcus Lush got Broadcaster of the year ahead of her is mind blowing.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:50am
  - graham
    
    How Marcus Lush got Broadcaster of the year ahead of ANYBODY is mind blowing …
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:45am
  - Sacha
    
    They have to share the BoY around.
    Marcus Lush. I heard a bit of him last night, and he sounded manic, on a high. Other times he sounds as if he NEEDS to take something to control his aggression. But he acts as a great sedative – I rarely last more than 10 minutes before going to sleep, and wake up promptly at 6 am.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:56am
Simon

Got your ro vaxx yet? First jab or second? Looks like you will have to book for the booster in six months time. When you get the jab make an appointment for the booster in six months time.

Its Labo so that third jab booster will be 18 months away.

Stay safe little sheep.
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July 15, 2021 8:32am
- Sacha
  
  I got a letter from the District Health Board on Tuesday. It advised me that I was in the old age group, and that I will be advised when there is a space for me to get immunised – at an unspecified time in the future.
  I need do nothing in the meantime.
  So I won’t.
  It’s good to know that everything is under control.
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:00am
JibberJabber

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule ~ H. L. Mencken
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July 15, 2021 8:36am
- krazykiwi
  
  Verbalising Mencken’s quotes will have you in front of a magistrate within a decade. His focus on freedom, liberty and the evil that would curtail both will not be tolerated in the neo-Marxist society that so many are blindly allowing to metastasize.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:20am
Paulus

Why is it we are informed that Biden is going crazy, when the US, after Trump fiasco, are only trying the make it universal that people should have and show true identity before they are entitled to cast their votes?
We do (almost universally with minor exceptions), and whilst the US is much larger it is not impossible.
Must be something in the water there.
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July 15, 2021 8:39am
greybeard

Did anyone go to the ACT meeting last night at Paraparaumu? How did Seymour come across?
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July 15, 2021 8:39am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  It was attended by 1.5 people.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:31am
  - Muttonbird
    
    David Seymour and one other?
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:00pm
CJames

From Newshub, who aren’t known as National’s supporters;
Mike King himself lambasted Ardern’s decision, saying it was “silly”. “When I asked you to have a conversation about it in the Koru Club, you looked me in the eye and you said, ‘Mike I cannot get involved in this, we have a fair and equitable system and I cannot be involved in funding decisions.
So she got involved in the Mongel Mob funding and took credit for it. Does this count as a lie?
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July 15, 2021 8:39am
- Tall Man
  
  “Does this count as a lie?”
  
  Rhetorical I assume…….
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:01am
- oldfella
  
  No, CJ, Glorious Leader does not lie.
  She told us so, herself.
  From her own lips, which to believers is like hearing the voice of Heaven.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:07am
- Gravelroad
  
  Well she’s Ms Everybody, isn’t she.
  What you say or admit to depends on who you are talking to at the time.
  How high up in the socialist pecking order they are.
  What the plotters in propaganda HQ are direct messaging to you in the Koru Club.
  Might be different in a few minutes time. Another face, another answer to the same question.
  Puppet on a string stuff.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:09am
  - Nickc2
    
    What’s the Maori word for Puppet Master? Oh, that’s right, the Maori Caucus have invented one but it’s only to be used by them and for them when they remind Cindy who’s in charge of this charade that calls itself the Labour Govt.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:26am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Rangatira karetao
      
      https://teara.govt.nz/en/object/43324/karetao-puppet-early-1800s
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:49am
      - Nickc2
        
        TKS Maggy.
        
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        July 15, 2021 12:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It is a ‘waffle’ lie
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:13am
- RoboRob
  
  Newshub aren’t National supporters at all. However they do love Mike King, thus this story.
  
  I would 100% agree with JAs statement, that is how it is supposed to be. However, Labour and the Greens (and Winston First at the time) have all been in on ‘having a quite chat’ with heads of organisations and telling them what they should do. Sadly most of the officials have bowed down to them too.
  
  If JA wanted to have Mike King funded she would have a quiet chat to Bloomfield and magically it would be funded. I think the only thing stopping it at this point is Labour have painted themselves into a corner.
  
  FWIW I think the initial funding issues Mike has had are likely all related to Bloomfield and his ‘friends’ not liking the idea of an ex comedian with mental health issues being able to do a better job than ‘highly educated’ bureaucrats.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:31am
Maggie Pie

And I’ll tell you something else I found funny….they are reporting that ‘Olympic Medal Winners’ now have to go get the medals out of the tray themselves, and place them over their own heads! No fans, no cheering, no handshakes.
Sounds like it’ll be an absolute shit-show if you ask me.

If it wasn’t for Laurel Hubbard, why would you bother watching?
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July 15, 2021 8:43am
- igm
  
  Hubbard will be too engaged scratching his nuts to think of the medal tray.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:46am
- Rich Prick
  
  Not to mention the organising committee relaxing the rule on political grandstanding. It’ll be a woke-fest best ignored.
  
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  July 15, 2021 8:48am
  - oldfella
    
    Maggie, will Laurel grandstand if she wins a medal?
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    July 15, 2021 9:10am
- MCos
  
  If the English football & rugby teams are anything to go by any UK silver medal medal winners will leave them on the tray.
  We’re British & we don’t get second.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:00am
- godruelf
  
  I’m wondering if there will be pre recorded Haka for the broadcasters to play at medal ceremonies etc.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:12am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yeah I won’t be watching and I have always enjoyed the olympics. It is going ahead because of money.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:19am
  - Tall Man
    
    To be fair, the athletes I have seen interviewed were pretty keen as they see it as the culmination of a long training regime.
    
    I’m not sure they really care about the rest of us so good for them.
    
    I’ve never been a true fan of the olympics so probably will scan but not avidly watch.
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:27am
- doggone7
  
  The Olympics won’t mind if a few in NZ don’t watch events.
  
  The Olympics have survived all the corruption and politics and wheeling and dealing. No doubt the corruption and politics and wheeling and dealing there have survived too.
  
  My pick is that if New Zealanders win a few gold medals naysayers and critics will get on board.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:30am
- Frank the tank
  
  “If it wasn’t for Laurel Hubbard, why would you bother watching?”
  
  I’m guessing you also like those documentaries on extremely obese people that need to be craned out of their rooms
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:43am
  - Batman
    
    Putting aside your rather crude description, the weightlifting is actually quite good to watch.
    
    The weights they lift are truly terrifying for a normal human to watch!
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:21am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Nothing against weightlifting Batty – it’s one of the few Olympic sports I enjoy watching.
      
      My comment reflects watching Hubbard competing. Personally I believe it’s demeaning to the athlete as it’s clearly going to be a circus with lots of people worldwide watching for the “bearded lady” spectacle. And then invariably a woke transphobia shit fight on twatter, faceslut and Instafake will commence.
      
      You can’t honestly watch the respective weight class in question and argue its a level playing field irrespective of whether a medal is won or not by Hubbard.
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:41am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Well said Frankie! Sums it up beautifully.
        .
        But had to larf at your previous comment about obese people being craned out of their beds.
        
        Don’t know if you watch ‘My 600lb Life’ or not ?(Sky TLC), but a couple a weeks ago they had to put a woman onto a reinforced pallet…. and use a forklift to get her on the back of a truck!
        
        LOL!!
        
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        July 15, 2021 11:05am
- MCos
  
  The olympics are a chance for athletes of more obscure sports to have their day in the sun. They slog their guts out for years just to participate, let alone win a medal.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:55am
hullkiwi

Question of the day (asked by Duncan Garner on the am Show and could be considered follow on from “D for doh”)…..

What are the differences between Graeme Lowe, Brian Tamaki & Mike King, and the Mongeral Mob

The answers are (succinctly stated by Garner & Richardson (while Ruby lips squirmed in her seat about acknowledging the work of Tamaki and his followers))…
The three men all work with people to prevent them being criminals with little or no recognition (financial or otherwise) from the government. While the Mongeral Mob receive $2.75mill to make criminals better criminals….

You figure…..

Thanks Jacinda, we need better criminals….
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July 15, 2021 8:46am
- RoboRob
  
  Ruby lips… Love it:)
  
  I couldn’t believe Ruby lips, I knew she was woke as but she was also intentionally thick to the point that was being made. Saying ‘Tamaki gets a lot of money from his supporters’, so what? We are talking about who gets govt funding Miss lips.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:36am
Spam

So if Stuff have taken funding, under the “Public Interest Journalism Fund”, conditional upon them promoting a view that the Treaty Of Waitangi implies a partnership, then can their article “The contentious He Puapua plan explained” be objective?

I thought that there was some kind of obligation for reporters to notify conflicts-of-interest in articles.
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July 15, 2021 9:00am
- cmm
  
  Moral obligation or legal obligation? Big difference.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:11am
  - oldfella
    
    cmm, it’s all about being open and transparent. Like the present government.
    
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    July 15, 2021 9:39am
- KevO'Brien
  
  This is plain and simple corruption. How dare a govt offer to help an industry and require them to mis-state the law.
  It is well settled there is no legal partnership formed by that misused treaty. There could not have been one in its time and even less now.
  
  Are Labour selling New Zealand out to a bunch of wild mere brandishing activists. What are they getting paid for that? What price are we to pay?
  
  Haven’t they learn’t the lessons of the 1830’s, heads aren’t free.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:12am
  - RoboRob
    
    As you say, the Treaty was always about subtigation to the Crown. This whole ‘partnership’ and ‘principals’ bs was all added in during the last 30 years.
    
    Maori (and NZ as a whole) would do better by looking to the future and making the lives of their children better.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:39am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      There would have been no Maori without them ceding them ceding sovereignty over them to the English Crown. Utu got in the way of living.
      Maori got a fair deal. Now the former wise ones have gone a new generation of braves are trying to win their battle scars and leadership. This govt needs itself to wise up to the old Maui tricks of pulling the wool over others eyes and taking advantage.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:22am
- oldfella
  
  Spam, I realise that Stuffed says things like:
  We’re Kiwis who believe in democracy and equality, and we know that those things depend on a free and non-partisan press.
  But they’re just taking the p*ss, mate.
  Expecting news organisations today to be open and transparent about any potential conflicts of interest is so… yesterday. /s
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:15am
  - RoboRob
    
    The other irony of ‘We’re Kiwis who believe in democracy and equality..’ is that Stuff is all in on ‘equity’ which is the exact oposite of ‘equality’.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:41am
- Loddenthinks
  
  I can’t believe people are looking to the corrupt, woke, bought-and-paid-for semi-literate shambles that is $1uffed and expecting anything different.
  
  The message is simple – Do. Not. Go. There. Much better for your blood pressure and mental health, trust me on this.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:37am
  - graham
    
    Agreed. I know some people don’t think much of the Herald, but IMHO it is still far better than Stuff if you prefer your morning dose of news to be served without a generous helping of woke.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:49am
Tall Man

ardern’s hypocrisy knows no bounds

“PM Jacinda Ardern pushes for global vaccination effort to dodge new variants”

Perhaps she should set the world’s vaccination targets … maybe 15% by 2023 ……
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July 15, 2021 9:04am
- oldfella
  
  But TM, you just know she would underperform, even with bar set that low.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:36am
- RoboRob
  
  Easier to push for global vaccination efforts, than to actually do the work and roll it out properly here.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:42am
JibberJabber

Jeepers,
Martyn Bradbury

Watching the Left drag on Mike King because he has the temerity to embarrass Jacinda over the lack of progress in mental health is a reminder of how tribally toxic the Left have become #nzpol

Has Martyn/Martin been red-pilled or just a “stopped-clock”?
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July 15, 2021 9:07am
- krazykiwi
  
  Bomber has always been far left, but is also a free thinker. This combination is something not tolerated by his political kin.
  
  Thinking people, and those not economically held hostage are increasingly seeing Ardern for what she is: A low integrity PR creation designed for the unthinking and/or easily compromised.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:29am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    And an altogether nasty piece of work. I wanted to use a different word than “work” but I respect my host’s house.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:42pm
Ron Jeremy

Ecan put all farming land consents on hold due to overseer review being conducted by MPI and MFE. No more printing money either be good if someone could ask Convinda what the plan for agriculture is in New Zealand seeing as the country was built in the back of it. Looking forward to the protest tomorrow hopefully a good turn out.
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July 15, 2021 9:07am
I remember when

Is there any group less selective than the (media appointed) white supremacists.
All you need is to be ‘WHITE’.
Oh, and being male is the clincher!
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July 15, 2021 9:08am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Florida boaties helping out. Cubans will get sweet fuck all from Biden.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/florida-boat-owners-are-running-supplies-to-embattled-cuban-protesters?
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July 15, 2021 9:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Gotta be Republicans – Dems too poor to own a boat, most don’t work
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:18am
lastmanstanding

Re MIQ. We hear daily of cases when children cant get to see dying parents and parents cant get to see dying children.

Meanwhile people born in other countries are given MIQ to come on holiday/visit well family.

The Government and its agencies have a truly twisted mentality. They have no compassion in fact I day the opposite. They revel in being able to turn down truly heart wrenching cases by keeping at least half of MIQ empty ot letting in people who should be at the back of the queue.

Yet another myth expolded. Cindy is really a nasty vicious piece of shit.
Wake up Sheeple. You are being led by the nose by one of histories worst examples as history will in time determine.
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July 15, 2021 9:11am
- oldfella
  
  LMS, if we had a real news media (I know, I jest), they’d have dug around to find out how our Mexican jumping bean and his sexual partner managed to score two MIQ vacancies so quickly after Ricardo popped over to Mexico to visit the whanau.
  Just went on line, and two vacancies dropped into his lap. Lucky? Or ‘insider’ dealing which deserved to be exposed?
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:29am
I remember when

Te A0 – Maori News speaks with Maori journalists Carol Hirschfeld and Aroha Awarau about the ropu Kawea Te Rongo:
‘Maori journalists have set up Kawea Te Rongo, an independent group that aims to support, develop and advocate for them’.
Where to start.
Well viewing the item I see three rows of Maori journalists being addressed.
So, what sex is the entire front row!
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July 15, 2021 9:15am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Whatever sex it looks like, you’re on thin ice if you assume people’s gender. Unless there are “cultural” reasons of course, but let’s face it you’d have to be a barbaric, stone-age culture if you banned women from the front of the room and only gave speaking rights to the men. Surely the lefty twatterati would be up in arms about such an outrage. Surely…
  
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  July 15, 2021 3:47pm
mandk

That’s because the Cubans are not unskilled, semi-literates who can be locked into voting Democrat.

cf the US-Mexico border.
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July 15, 2021 9:19am
- Batman
  
  I thought the theory now was that they’re conservative in religion and approach to foreign affairs so were increasingly voting Republican, particularly in Florida?
  
  Or is that only the argument when racial stereotyping isn’t in fashion?
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:16am
  - lifesgood
    
    I’ve been to Cuba. Absolutely loved the place and especially the people who have suffered enough under communism. They’ve had a gutsful and I don’t blame them. If you had to live the way they do you would not be a socialist.
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:10am
    - Batman
      
      Yep, the cure to communism is to live under it.
      
      Though thankfully nobody in the US or NZ is seriously suggesting such a change, despite a few hyperventilating types.
      
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      July 15, 2021 12:58pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        You have not seen Jaspindas speech from 2009? President of the world socialist youth or something – comrade
        
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        July 15, 2021 2:21pm
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        I don’t care about the US or Cuba much, but if you haven’t met any self confessed Marxist, nor have any acquittances in your social circle, then you perhaps haven’t looked hard on Facebook feeds.
        There are unrepentant Marxists in NZ, and even some not far away on my own social media circle.
        I have been saddened to see some young and middle aged people really are on board with trumpeting pro-rainbow/poor Maori memes and the evils of the capitalist system. A spectrum from selfies with Souxie Wiles through to Hammer and sickle types, enjoying NZs free, pluralist, capitalist democracy, and yet denouncing it.
        To borrow an analogy: Standing on the shoulders of giants, and pissing on them for being too short.
        And then you have all the softer ‘socialists’, who are just Marxists without the blood and guts language, and driving the cultural identity/Cultural Marxist line of dividing up society into endless divisions & believing it will make things better.
        Then you have useful idiots, who just do what Feelz ’emphatic’, and don’t understand unintended consequences or interconnected systems.
        Rather than ‘nobody’, better believe these people are in NZ.
        Many people with chips on their shoulders exist in education and politics. Too many.
        The first self-declared Marxist I ever met was in 1st year University, and I got good marks by writing about the stratification of society, and demonstrating a knowledge of the theory and language.
        Yep. I have a knowledge of it. Supposedly attributed to Winston Churchill, and quite apt for the current NZ government:
        “Capitalism means sharing happiness unequally. Socialism means sharing misery equally {when you give its adherents enough time to tinker}”
        
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        July 15, 2021 3:40pm
I remember when

Great to see the Wellington City Council trying to do the right thing by the transgender part of the population.
That only leaves in the vicinity of 99% of the population needing their attention.
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July 15, 2021 9:21am
- krazykiwi
  
  Gender dysphoria prevalence accounts for 0.005–0.014% of the population for biological males and 0.002–0.003% for biological females.
  
  So the council is supporting those folks, while perpetuating the tragic mental illness that endured by remainder who claim to be trans.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:34am
  - oldfella
    
    krazy, being trans does have its upside.
    Mom Brags ‘Trans’ Daughter Going Through ‘Early Menopause’ Caused By Hormone Blockers
    A mother of a gender-confused child recently boasted that her daughter, who identifies as a boy, is going through so-called “early menopause” due to the hormone blockers she has the child on.
    Carolyn Tate, based in Brisbane, Australia, wrote in April that her gender-confused daughter is going through “early menopause” and she’s “so proud of him.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/mom-brags-trans-daughter-going-through-early-menopause-caused-by-hormone-blockers?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:42am
    - hilaryt
      
      Lord there’s some idiots out there. Betcha the kid takes her to court not long from now..
      
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      July 15, 2021 2:21pm
    - Aurelia
      
      And to think my GP gives me shit about my HRT pills.
      
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      July 15, 2021 10:52pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    I think it is much higher than that, at least in terms of the fashionable & attention getting aspect of it.
    Seems to be an awful lot of them around, that I come across or know of even in my line of sight.
    As long as they don’t cut of their pricks, they might grow out of it.
    Plenty of confused young people, being encouraged to explore and act our their confusion.
    Maybe the genuine one are still vanishingly small, as in the certifiably mentally ill ones – but seems to be a lot of posers around too; might just have been considered gay once, or ponces, or a bot girly but now they can turn the dial up and are BOLD and COURAGEOUS and SPECIAL.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:48pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    kk you may be confusing gender dysphoria with being intersex i.e. neither one sex or the other.
    
    The mental illness suffered by those who claim to be trans is gender dysphoria, at least according to the psychological and medical literature. Tragically, the recommended “treatment” for those suffering from gender dysphoria has been narrowed down to just one course of action: sex reassignment surgery. The people recommending this, and carrying it out for anyone under the age of 20 should be locked up for life, IMO.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:53pm
oldfella

Here’s a name from the past. Jussie Smollett. Remember him?
The former Mighty Ducks actor claimed he was assaulted by two white men wearing MAGA hats in an alleged racist and homophobic hate crime.
Well, Smollett was back in court on Wednesday, as the actor faces six counts of felony misconduct for allegedly lying to police about the obviously staged assault.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/07/14/lol-jussie-smollett-back-in-court-maintains-innocence-in-hate-crime-hoax-n1461838
Personally, I think the whole case against him is homophobic and racist. /s
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July 15, 2021 9:22am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Heh heh, Dave Chapelle made part of his stand up routine, “sticks and stones”, about the fake hate crime.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXoErL2124
  
  “None of these details added up AT ALL…..If you were racist and homophobic, you wouldn’t even know this n—-a at all! You don’t watch ‘Empire’!”
  
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  July 15, 2021 4:41pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING AS WE SPEAK>>>>

John McAfee’s wife has just released what is alleged to be the ‘suicide note’ found stuffed in his pants pocket by a Spanish prison guard….

(it looks a bit sus to me – why would he write like a 5yo? )

https://twitter.com/ChinaLoveBiden/status/1415382347302703110
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July 15, 2021 9:22am
- doggone7
  
  Another opportunity for years of theorising and conspiracy notions and the most far fetched notions. How long before there are headlines tying this to the Madeleine McCann story?
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:34am
  - Batman
    
    From @chinalovebiden on twitter no less, how very reliable! ?‍♂️?
    
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    July 15, 2021 12:59pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Now you know that’s not true Batz!
      
      The published article is actually from the ‘Daily Mail’….
      it just happened to be retwweted by Twitter bestie USA Pres Xi Jingping
      
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      July 15, 2021 1:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Why hasn’t this Government brought in saliva testing for the presence of coronovirus?

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2107/S00111/saliva-testing-delayed-again.htm
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July 15, 2021 9:22am
- Tall Man
  
  They like the idea if sticking it up our nose.
  
  I was surprised they didn’t bring in the anal testing that Maggie alerted us to ….
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:27am
- Prince
  
  Because the Opposition called for it a year ago.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:32am
  - Paulus
    
    I had a throat saliva test over a year ago – was at my Doctors on another matter so he just did it.
    Took all of 20 seconds without any assistance.
    
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    July 15, 2021 10:52am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  Maggy, it couldn’t possibly used, it will have no fear factor and the results will be almost immediate, this will make daily fearmongering almost impossible to control.
  You more than likely can’t manipulate the cycles levels to get a desired result.
  It is unfit for purpose in this theatre of fear, shock, and awe.
  It has been around for months and totally ignored by many countries.
  Good god, we can’t have tests that start to make life start to look normal.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:41am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I’m sure there is a ‘working group’ with a predetermined end result. Just getting the program to work is in their favour is the problem
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:49am
Happychappy

NZ aiming to make post – Covid ‘a better era’ – Ardern.
And New Zealander’s don’t think our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern uses Covid-19 to gather votes and stay in power, just like the lies she tells most days she can’t help promoting her vision and herself on Covid-19.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nz-aiming-make-post-covid-better-era-ardern
Will this be just like Kiwibuild the that fucked NZ ‘ housing market or the vision to see criminals looked after before nurses, doctors, and mental health.
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July 15, 2021 9:33am
- tf78
  
  Happy, that’s the Great Reset for you.
  
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  July 15, 2021 3:59pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

As the term demand a debate is getting some traction (tiny little bit), expect a nasty hit job from toxic Tova soon.
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July 15, 2021 9:33am
oldfella

If Global Cooling begat Global Warming, which begat Climate Change, which begat Climate Crisis…
What’s next? Climate Cataclysm?
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/
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July 15, 2021 9:36am
Maggy Wassilieff

If even journalists can see that the Min of Health’s graphs are nonsense, what level of education have the Min of Health staff got?

How could the March infographic ever have seen the light of day?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/coronavirus-baffling-graph-showed-twice-as-many-second-vaccine-doses-as-first.html
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July 15, 2021 9:46am
- cmm
  
  Maggy, c’mon, you know the answer.
  
  Like a previous graph a few weeks back, this is just an artist’s impression; the fabrication of a graphic artist and advertisers. It has one purpose only: shilling for the MoH.
  
  No data was used in the construction of that graph.
  
  We are unfortunately in a position where the MoH’s spinmeisters are in charge of graphics & material being put in front of the public – not anything with a scientific basis.
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:08am
Swifty

According to Stuff’s cub reporter, being critical of recent trans trends:

1. Causes ‘fear and hurt’
2. Communicates ‘a message of exclusion’.
3. Makes trans people ‘unsafe’.
4. ‘Attacks the mana’ of trans people
5. ‘Targets’ trans people
6. ‘Comes at a cost of safety and mental health’.
7. Indicates ‘a bizarre obsession with genitalia’.
8. Indicates trans people ‘should be afforded fewer rights’.
9. Indicates a belief that ‘trans identities are not valid’.
10. Indicates ‘poorly formed arguments from a privileged few’.
11. Indicates ‘prejudice’.

What a load of emotive, subjective drivel – and, I notice, the cub reporter doesn’t mention or discuss the main objections that some people hold on recent trans trends – so that people may become better informed as a result of reading his piece.

This is the kind of thing that I fear about the new ‘hate’ speech laws intended – that any criticism of certain views or behaviour is ‘an attack’ on the people concerned. It is not. In fact, overwhelmingly, whenever I hear or see NZers talking about trans issues they almost always preface their thoughts with “of course trans people are free to live their lives however they want….” before then raising their concerns on the legal, or social ramifications of this recent trans trend.

No hate or attacks or prejudice, or threats to safety there, at all.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/gender-and-society/300356898/settling-the-debate-oldtime-politicians-grasping-at-gender-and-race-for-relevance
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July 15, 2021 9:48am
- alloytoo
  
  The biggest fear that the transactivists have is that we don’t care.
  
  If we don’t care then they have no cause.
  
  Rights should vest in the individual irrespective of their race, gender, sexual preference etc.
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:25am
- Yabster
  
  cub reporter is being very kind to him- McConnell is at the coal face of the worst of the MSM.
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:09pm
  - graham
    
    Ah, so it’s Glenn McConnell – that explains it.
    
    As I mentioned further down the page, back in the days when I used to read Stuff, Glenn McConnell always struck me as a petulant kid. Doesn’t sound like he’s changed much.
    
    I remember this immature little boy writing about celebrating the vandalism of a statue somewhere in central Auckland, on the basis of ‘colonialism’. I wonder if he might possibly consider that some of his statements above could relate to those of us who are of British descent. That the attacks on our ancestors could:
    
    1. Cause ‘fear and hurt’ to British people
    2. Communicate ‘a message of exclusion’ to British people
    3. Make British people ‘unsafe’.
    4. ‘Attack the mana’ of British people
    5. ‘Target’ British people
    6. ‘Come at a cost of safety and mental health’ to British people
    
    Probably not. But then it really doesn’t worry me, to be honest. The day I even start to care what Glenn McConnell thinks will be the day I give myself a stern talking to and tell myself to pull myself together, otherwise next thing I know I’ll start paying attention to Ali Mau and John Campbell …
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:07pm
- hilaryt
  
  None of it substantive. And why do we almost never hear from actual trans folk? I have little time for the infantalising bleats of others who seem to think it’s their life’s work to care for the wee mites.
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:17pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Right but all those statements say “Trans people”. If Trans people wanted a category called Trans we would have no problem. But they want to change the term woman to mean a person of either sex who feels feminine. And being a woman , like being a particular race, has a shared history and biology.
  
  If your gender is determined by your feelings is your race? If I feel black because I feel black music and culture and I feel at home in the black community, can I then have surgery to look and dress and identify as black. Is being black a biological reality or an internal feeling. Which has more biological reality your race or your sex.
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:29pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Gender is a matter of subjective reality, just like a person’s height. {sarc}.
    
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    July 15, 2021 5:02pm
  - oldfella
    
    Surely, its not difficult to become black. Just ask Justin Trudeau what makeup he used when he used to go to parties wearing black face.
    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trudeau-unsure-if-more-blackface-photos-of-him-will-surface-2019-9?r=US&IR=T
    Didn’t hurt his career. /s
    
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    July 15, 2021 5:06pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  That line ‘a bizarre obsession with genitalia’ is one reason even gays and trans can fall out over details.
  Because some activists ask why won’t a lesbian have sex with a transwoman (pre-op). A small minded obsession with genitals, has been the claim made against straights and gays who don’t accept sex with those that identify with another biological gender.
  Even gay white men are not far removed from the oppressor’s class, as the revolution moves further to the fringes looking for fresh ground!!
  
  The so-called ‘a bizarre obsession with genitalia’ is more accurately termed a recognition of physical reality. A reality that they insist cannot be commented upon.
  It is a cry like ‘racism’, intended to silence.
  If I say a person with a dick is a man it does NOT mean I have any further interest in that dick at all, let alone a bizarre obsession.
  
  When it comes to the trans-moment, bizarre is surely in the eye of the beholder!
  
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  July 15, 2021 5:01pm
Maggie Pie

My partner thort this worth sharing with anyone who may be considering buying into a Chinese built High-Rise….

https://imgur.com/gallery/jumeY9V
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July 15, 2021 9:49am
- Weetbix3ways
  
  Verifying quality is essential anywhere. There’s a good and bad stuff coming out of China. I’ll also note there is good and bad Kiwi-made as well.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I can tell when I weld the shit. It goes straight back to the importers at their cost
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:23pm
hullkiwi

Is it a sign of things to come with the separatist Maori Health Authority.

….mass vaccination planned for end of the month at South Auckland Vodafone Events Centre….

Counties Manakau DHB.

What about the rest of Auckland, or NZ?
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July 15, 2021 9:49am
- Paulus
  
  Wife and I over 80 with aged health problems
  – have heard Sweet FA so far.
  No – not Maori or PI so expect by Christmas (Year?).
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:55am
- MCos
  
  61.8% of the people in the Counties/Manukau DHB area are pakeha (including me)
  The national average is 76.7%
  The percentage of Maori is about the same as the national average. PI make up the difference.
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:43pm
Benedict Yu

This is quite a long article in Stuff that promotes the idea that it is fine for trans women to compete as women. It is kind of boring and does not really address the issue of unfair physical advantage.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/125757693/weighing-up-the-emotional-side-of-transgender-sporting-debate

It centres on the experience of Sarah Michelle Hansen-Vaeau, a netball player who experienced ‘bigotry and hate’.

However the stand out is the photo of some members of the New Zealand mens and womens netball teams. Sarah is in the middle row, far left. She is in some kind of coaching role. I don’t need to say any more. That one image of Sarah and members of both teams destroys any counter arguments in the article. It is stunning.

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/4/y/t/p/j/8/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240×700.22vf99.png/1626291219268.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium
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July 15, 2021 9:51am
- mandk
  
  I have seen time-served international prop forwards that more closely resemble a woman.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:47am
Benedict Yu

This is quite a long article in Stuff that promotes the idea that it is fine for trans women to compete as women. It is kind of boring and does not really address the issue of unfair physical advantage.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/125757693/weighing-up-the-emotional-side-of-transgender-sporting-debate

It centres on the experience of Sarah Michelle Hansen-Vaeau, a netball player who experienced ‘bigotry and hate’.

However the stand out is the photo of some members of the New Zealand mens and womens netball teams. Sarah is in the middle row, far left. She is in some kind of coaching role. I don’t need to say any more. That one image of Sarah and members of both teams destroys any counter arguments in the article. It is stunning.

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/4/y/t/p/j/8/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240×700.22vf99.png/1626291219268.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium
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July 15, 2021 9:55am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Sorry if the link to the photo is broken try this:
  
  https://tinyurl.com/drx7zm27
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:57am
- JibberJabber
  
  Scientists attempting to explain the Trans phenomena appear to be taking the route of,
  “if you can’t blind them with Science, baffle them with Bullshit”.
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:08pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Apologies for duplicate post.
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:56pm
Bob

THE Hipkins – Labour Party- assumption is that the sheeple are all numerically and economically illiterate.
Those that aren’t yet, soon will be; after attending one of the ‘education’ facilities presently planned as MIQ isolation centres.
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July 15, 2021 9:59am
hullkiwi

Statement of the day from Chris Hipkins while being interviewed by Duncan Garner,

…”it is such an unpredictable virus”.

So there you have it, that is why Sean Hendy’s modelling has been so accurate…
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July 15, 2021 10:26am
- mandk
  
  Getting Hendy (a physicist) to do your epidemiological modelling is like consulting a psychiatrist when you have broken your leg.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:45am
- cmm
  
  This is the bullshit line that is always trotted out to:
  A) Add extra fear.
  B) Cover for cockups.
  
  No Mr Hipkins, Sars-CoV-2 is a virus. It isn’t crafty. It isn’t sneaky. It isn’t sentiant. It is no less predictable than many other viruses.
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:13am
- alloytoo
  
  This is really an admission from the command and control party that people are unpredictable.
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:28am
slightlyrighty

if anyone was in doubt that the MoH is just making up shit when it comes to the vaccine rollout to cover their own arses…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300357755/covid19-baffling-graph-showed-twice-as-many-second-vaccine-doses-as-first
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July 15, 2021 10:31am
Maggie Pie

BREAKING…

Judith will be on MagicTalk with Ryan Bridge at 3PM today for an hour…. AND taking questions!

All in a good cause. Magic are running a fundraiser for the ‘Child Cancer Foundation’

Meanwhile, this government hands over 250k to the Mongrel Mob. Go figure. Guess there’s no votes from kids with cancer?
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July 15, 2021 10:35am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… 2.75 Million to the mm.
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Multiply your 250k by 11 and you might be closer to the mark.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/446739/ardern-backs-2-point-75m-support-for-mongrel-mob-meth-addiction-programme
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:57am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    WTF??
    
    Say it ain’t so MAGGS!
    
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    July 15, 2021 11:11am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It is so – $2.75 million, and I have my bumper sticker (Stop Labour’s Car Tax) from the Taxpayer’s Union
      
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      July 15, 2021 2:27pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        http://www.cartax.co.nz
        
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        July 15, 2021 2:29pm
- cmm
  
  There are some marketing buzzwords for this:
  
  * Value chain integration.
  * End-to-end monetisation.
  
  Why clip the ticket for only part of the meth supply chain when you can clip the ticket all the way through?
  
  Now the mob owns:
  * Import of precursors.
  * Manufacturing.
  * Back end distribution.
  * Sales/retail.
  * Now they’ve just added post sales service to druggies.
  
  All they are missing is running their own prisons for drug offenders. Hold Cindy’s beer.
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:58pm
Pharmachick

@DaveS if you’re out there… sort of a follow on from yesterday’s CGT convo, wondered if you have an opinion on the following:

I’ve always considered Art as the closest real thing to a Giffen Good. As such CGT on Art wouldn’t be worth it, because compliance costs of hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of people buying Art for a few hundred or thousand and it never appreciating (but reporting structures required) are a wash. This is because we hear about the big Christies auction but its vanishingly rare to discover a Leonardo in Grandma’s closet, or buy into Colin Mcahon during his first ever show. Thoughts?
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July 15, 2021 10:40am
- Paulus
  
  Depends as to who values the paintings – at what time ?
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:57am
  - Pharmachick
    
    Yep!
    
    There is already a massive underground art market for expensive stuff, especially w/r/t “provenance” issues. Thats another thing that makes the art market problematic. A CGT would definitely drive people [further] into that as well (cigarette tax anybody?).
    
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    July 15, 2021 12:15pm
    - oldfella
      
      Pharma, Hunter Biden has a few pieces to sell. All his own work. And they come with a promise to keep your name secret if you pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars he’s demanding.
      Boy, he must be waaay talented! 😉
      
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      July 15, 2021 5:14pm
I remember when

Covid-19: Baffling graph showed twice as many second doses as first: RNZ:
Seems fairly simple, the science suggests you need your second dose to better combat some variants.
So obviously many people decided to get their second dose first.
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July 15, 2021 10:47am
curry4me

ASTERISK PRESIDENCY: Episode 26.
Direct from Harveywood, here is this week’s episode of Asterisk Presidency. Brought to you by the CCP, MSM, Wall Street, $oros, ANTIFA, BLM, CDC, Nordstream, globalists, ‘academia’, FBI, CIA, NSA, and Burisma.
How’s that Bidenflation going? Will it exceed Carterflation next week? How ‘transitory’ is it? Does anyone remember stagflation? Will that come next? Will Quemala visit the border? Will it be Mayor Pete instead? Will she refuse to take any more responsibilities? Is Sleepy Joe responsible for anything? Is he responsible for more liberal tears than President Trump now? Can the first black-female ‘VP’ be fired? Would it cause a meltdown in Dem World? Will she be like Hertz, and try harder? How would that work out? Sleepy Joe can’t take credit for ME peace. Can he take credit for getting 80 million votes? Will Hunter be the next Rafael, or Reubens? Can he afford designer crack now? Is Quemalas office a nice place to work now? Will Puerto Rico become a state before California leaves? Will President Trump be ‘reinstated’? Will China inherit Afghanistan? Did the presitator read about the tar baby? Who will win the ‘shooting stakes? Will it be Chicago, or NY? Would that make hoods in St Louis jealous? Which WH program will be blocked this week? Does Iran have more transparent elections than the USA? How long will Cuba’s government last? Will ‘woke’ Dems offer their services to maintain it? Will China help the Iranian Mullahs with security matters? Will RINOs finally go extinct? Will the Squad, and ANTIFA go and help the Cuban regime? Will the FBI investigate the ‘big guy’? Will pigs fly? What other Dems are in Epsteins address book? Can Sleepy Joe stop the Pennsylvania audit? Is his magic gas price wand broken? Will more FB employees be fired for spying on users? Will Sleepy Joe’s taxes be audited? Will NY have three mass shootings to stay competitive with Chicago? Will Republicans keep over performing in special elections? Will the presitator help suppress Cuban protestors? Stay tuned folks.
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July 15, 2021 11:09am
lifesgood

I am feeling kind of excited about the protest marches set to take place tomorrow. From what I heard on Newstalk they are going to be BIG…the bigger the better. Everyone from farmers, gun owners, anti climate change nonsense, anti tax on utes, anti hate speech law, etc etc etc. will be there. Be interesting to see if any of the planned dozens of marches in dozens of towns get reported at all in the MSM.
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July 15, 2021 11:16am
rouppe

A friend of mine in Scotland said (as part of a bigger thread) on Facebook that he’d swap our government for the “lying incompetent shower of shit” that is the uk government.

I outlined just some of the border and miq stuff ups, including the recent bailing out of holiday makers in Australia who are getting their miq for free after being warned they were on their own. How they’d stuffed the flu vaccine rollout last year, stuffed the covid vaccine rollout this year, didn’t take the $40 million option, etc.

This is barely 5% of their stuff ups mind. He had no idea those things hadn’t been reported there.

The rest of the world thinks Jacinda is a Saint
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July 15, 2021 11:23am
- virtualmark
  
  Without wanting to disclose confidences … I was a lot closer to the vaccine purchasing than most here, and I never heard of this mythical “$40 million option”. As far as I can tell that is just some wild-eyed conspiracy theory.
  
  Sanity check … NZ is spending, round numbers, $800 million on vaccines. The Government gave itself billions of dollars of budget to deal with Covid. The cost of a national lockdown is something like $100 million per day.
  
  ***Do you think that we wouldn’t have spent an extra $40 million to accelerate deliveries if that had been an option??? ***
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:02pm
  - rouppe
    
    I don’t know whether we would have, though nothing would surprise me about this government.
    
    I do note that there was reportage of the PM saying that nz didn’t need the vaccine as early as others, which aligns with the notion that we could have had them earlier but chose not to.
    
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    July 15, 2021 4:57pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Chippie was an idiot to say we were at the front of the queue. We were never at the front of the queue. So saying we were was always going to land flat.
      
      I didn’t hear Jacinda say that we didn’t need the vaccine as early as others … but (rationally) that is how the Pharma companies saw it. Vaccine production was largely allocated in a triage process, and we weren’t a high triage priority (perversely, because we’d done so well at keeping Covid out).
      
      Still not totally clear how Israel got such quick delivery. Apparently Netanyahu made lots of calls to Pfizer’s chair/CEO. Who is a Sephardic Jew whose parents both had lucky escapes from the Holocaust. So there’s that.
      
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      July 15, 2021 5:42pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    How did you arrive at the binary choice of vaccines, or lockdowns? Which other interventions (pharmaceutical or non-pharmaceutical) did you discard to be left with this dichotomy?
    
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    July 15, 2021 6:00pm
    - virtualmark
      
      I wasn’t, and had no need to be, involved in any of those decisions.
      
      But from what I can see all the decisions have been based on a cautious interpretation of the science. The people making the decisions are smart, and they’re taking into account a *lot* wider range of factors than you see discussed in public forums like this.
      
      My view, based on what I’ve seen, is that the decisions have been very rational but that the communication has been very stripped down and hasn’t given a lot of detail.
      
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      July 15, 2021 8:08pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Over 50% of NZ thinks Jacinda is a saint. And about 70% of Aotearoa.
  Lining the media’s pockets is a clever strategy.
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:13pm
jon

I note that Minister of Agriculture O’Connor has announced that he will not be attending any of the farmers’ GROUNDSWELL protests across the country tomorrow. Gutless. No doubt our local *proud to be a socialist* Wairarapa MP Kieran Mc Anulty will also be afraid to front up to the farmers on the day as well!
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July 15, 2021 11:24am
- Tony Stuart
  
  By contrast, every National MP will be at a protest event tomorrow, as, I expect, will all Act MP’s
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:47am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Tony,
    Will anyone be wearing a “gilet jaune” as the French farmer protesters did?
    
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    July 15, 2021 12:48pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    I’m sure you’re right, Tony. It’s called politics.
    
    That’s why you’re going to be there, and I’m not.
    
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    July 15, 2021 12:52pm
    - Libertarians are right
      
      The “groundswell” of anti-farming legislation and rules coming from the Left is “politics”.
      
      Helping farmers defend their rights is simply the right thing to do.
      
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      July 15, 2021 12:55pm
- Nickc2
  
  I’m sure the Greens would love to attend//sarc
  Weren’t they invited?
  
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  July 15, 2021 11:50am
Fletch

I see that Biden got up at the National Constitutional Center in Philadelphia and basically shat on the Constitution, lied his ass off, comparing the voting rules that the GOP want to put in place (eg, you need an ID to vote) with Civil War era Jim Crow. Complete demagoguery.

Mark Levin dissects it on his radio show at the video link. As Levin puts it, he would ask the left media, which provision in any of the Republican-passed laws is racist and so severe in suppressing the vote that it is akin to the Civil War? “Nowhere did Joe Biden in his Castro-like speech explain what it is about these laws that are repressing minorities, preventing them from voting, akin to the Civil War”

https://youtu.be/YVame0BHH5I?t=68
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July 15, 2021 11:24am
- jon
  
  I see Biden appeared to be very disorientated at a meet and greet of a crowd in the States the other day. Not too long before Kamala is sitting in the Oval Office!
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:00pm
- Batman
  
  Get off it Fletch, he did no such thing. The red state’s push to restrict voting rights is an out and out authoritarian attempt to rule with a minority of votes, which targets voters of colour either by design or by consequence.
  
  The states are perfectly able to attempt to push these racist laws, and the federal government is equally able to sue those state, or even better, pass federal minimum standards for voting.
  
  Your sly little mention if voter ID, as if that’s all they’re attempting to do, is so very transparent.
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:05pm
  - Fletch
    
    Batman, tell me exactly what provisions are restricting the voting rights of minorities? Which ones are so racist? I bet you can’t name ONE. As I said, Biden got up there and lied his ass off. And why? Because it is exactly the opposite happening. It’s Democrats who are attempting to change voting so that the GOP can never be in power again.
    
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    July 15, 2021 2:30pm
    - Libertarians are right
      
      It’s the whole “structural racism” lie. Basically, because these changes affect poor, unskilled, uninformed & unmotivated voters negatively (supposedly), and Black people are more likely to hold these attributes (which is BS of course – they are actually talking about fringe Democrats – people who aren’t really interested in voting but if it’s easy will probably vote Democrat), then it’s racist as “Black people” (read fringe Democrats) are less likely to be bothered voting and therefore “Black people” (fringe Democrats) are negatively affected by ANY difficulty in voting, so RACISM!!!.
      
      The issue generally is that fringe voters who aren’t interested are more likely to vote Left (based on blatant bribes and envy generally) so the easier you make it to vote, the more votes the Left gets. The more hoops to vote (and informed choice should absolutely be a hoop), the more votes the right gets proportionately.
      
      This is the same reason Labour included the reeferendum at the last election as it brought out a lot of non-voters who were only there for the weed but ticked Labour or Greens because they were there and why not?
      
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      July 15, 2021 4:06pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Democrats panicking as screeds of documentary evidence of fraud starts to come out and are sending out their big guns Kamala and Biden to swing states to try and stop audits (which just screams nothing to hide right?), Tucker Carlson today on the massive ballot fraud revealed in absentee ballot images in Georgia:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wck_xJUgPA8
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:55pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Cindy giving speech on foreign policy. Makes my stomach churn.
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July 15, 2021 11:29am
gorse

Glenn McConnell’s opinion piece in Stuff today – “The politics of disrespect” says that the issues of Maori rights and transgender issues are being discussed and Conservatives are losing. Well, in my view, they are only losing because the media either won’t publish their opinions, or rubbish them. Take a look at Stuff’s cartoon today. Typical of how this rag treats a conservative leader, and it’s like that day after day after day. How can we win when we aren’t allowed to? I despair.
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July 15, 2021 11:53am
- hilaryt
  
  Yep. I ignore McConnell. Imagine placing the sexual politics concerns of a tiny few over all else. Ha! And another letter to the editor over the utterly partisan toons.
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:28pm
- graham
  
  When I used to read Stuff, Glenn McConnell always struck me as a petulant kid. Doesn’t sound like he’s changed much.
  
  Take a tip – just don’t read Stuff. Leave them to preach to their own woke little echo chamber. I find it far better for my blood pressure to just ignore Stuff and their whining “journalists” entirely. I figure if there’s anything important I’ll find out about it somewhere else eventually.
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:21pm
Jack5

Ardern spreads the Covid-19 risk by sending a shipload of the sick from Taranaki to Lyttleton.

Sixteen of the crew of the Spanish fishing vessel Playa Zahara have tested positive while it’s been lying off Taranaki.

A worthwhile vessel to help? The Spanish have been cleaning fish from southern oceans outside territorial limits of countries like New Zealand. You don’t have to be a Greenie to see they are arseholes.

It would be natural justice if New Zealand had the ability and the resolve just to sink the tub.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125758209/ship-carrying-confirmed-covid19-cases-to-dock-at-christchurch-port
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July 15, 2021 11:53am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Why can’t they just fuel the bloody thing up and send it back to Spain?
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:17pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    I know what you’re going to say in answer to this, but what if one or more of the crew members died of COVID-19 on the way home, when their lives could have been saved in Christchurch Public or Burwood hospitals?
    
    Are you happy to risk New Zealand, as a consequence, becoming a pariah nation?
    
    I’m not.
    
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    July 15, 2021 2:46pm
    - cmm
      
      How many cruise ships have been turned away worldwide with subsequent deaths on board?
      
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      July 15, 2021 3:59pm
Libertarians are right

Articles about He Puapua always ignore Pita Sharples’ speech (in front of the UN) where he points out that we signed the UN Declaration with no intention of implementing the suggestions because we already have systems in place.

What REALLY doesn’t get mentioned was Nanaia Mahuta’s response (in NZ Parliament) which doubles down on the issues and how they’re unworkable. She also says that these things need a National discussion for all New Zealanders.

The scariest part of her speech however was this:

“We believed then, as we do now, that upon signing such a declaration, there has to be a genuine attempt to implement the articles that build the spirit, rights, and interests of indigenous peoples. Many of the 143 countries that originally signed the declaration had no intention of implementing it. In Labour we are proud to say what we mean and to do what we say.”

Um – what about the Global Compact on Migration that Labour has promised us is “non-binding”?
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July 15, 2021 11:54am
- cmm
  
  Never, never, never sign anything you have no intention of following through on – binding or not!
  
  These things have a way of morphing and changing their meaning. Just look at the Treaty of Waitangi.
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:47pm
cmm

Another shooting, another main road in AKL shut down.

This can’t go on. Shutting down AKL streets to get “perfect” evidence is causing too much disruption.

The cops will have to learn to do their forensics faster and prosecute with less evidence.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gunshots-heard-police-investigation-underway-roads-closed-in-auckland/4PGBS26RQQFWAXH4E4SIW4HA3M/
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July 15, 2021 12:01pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Shutting down streets after a murder is amateurish. The days our leaders shut down whole cities when there’s a suspected case of the sniffles.
  
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  July 15, 2021 12:43pm
Jack5

The Stuff special hit squad and Hager the Horrible, who worked over New Zealand troops in Afghanistan, can take note that the New York Times has its reporters in the embattled northern city of Kunduz.

Afghan Government commandos are fighting the Taliban in the city, virtually round the reporters.

A taste:

“The jagged front line of combat is often just a block or two away from wherever you happen to be, down quiet streets lined with dusty sycamore trees and low mud brick dwellings baking in the heat. The Taliban are inside the city and outside of it, keeping bedraggled soldiers and police awake all night. The sound of their mortar fire mingles with the call to prayer as the sun goes down.”

Try this – the paywall may let you have a peek:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/14/world/asia/afghanistan-kunduz-taliban.html
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July 15, 2021 12:10pm
I remember when

Covid on fishing boats and crew being transferred.
Jacinda gave a press conference to the problems.
Remember when a press interview with a Prime Minister was meant to provided some clarity.
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July 15, 2021 12:44pm
Odakyu-sen

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/south-auckland-tornado-cancer-patient-struggles-after-home-ravaged-nearly-a-month-ago/ZSE2WLGU2LENOTGRR66WM3CJOQ/

An 80-yer-old cancer patient who lives alone.
Point of interest: “I was watching the news and communities were giving out meals and I was just hoping that someone would knock on my door,” she said.

What aspects of this woman’s attitude is leading to less-than-optimal outcomes for her?
How could she mitigate her circumstances?
What questions should the journalist have asked?

If you were an 80-year-old cancer patient living alone, what contingency plans would you prepare?
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July 15, 2021 12:44pm
cmm

This is very, very worrying in so many ways:

“On Thursday, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced a $2.5 billion package for the country’s 67 councils, if they opted in to the reforms.”

Taxpayer funded hand outs to councils to bride councils to accept their agenda is basically corruption: go along with us and we’ll give you money to spend on your stupid vanity projects.

The councils will act with their eye on the money and their core mission – providing services to the citizens – will be forgotten.

It looks like Christchurch does not need much bribing. Only 122M out of 25000M = less than 5% of the bribe funds, despite having 8% of the NZ population.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/125760085/christchurch-offered-1224-million-to-opt-into-water-reforms
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July 15, 2021 12:44pm
- sooty
  
  Well it’s not as though lyn dalzaiel is gunna complain is she. Labour party hack!
  
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  July 15, 2021 10:55pm
Nickc2

Yea, I remember reading all about this in Labour’s Election Manifesto – NOT!!!
I most certainly don’t recall any of my electoral ward’s councillors announcing it in their bid for election either.
PUT IT TO THE RATEPAYERS! It’s their bloody money and paid for assets FFS.
I seriously doubt Labour’s Maori Caucus would have ventured down this path if the majority of provincial mayors weren’t Labour sycophants.
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July 15, 2021 1:04pm
Batman

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-deeply-racist-dimensions-to-ashli-babbitts-martyrdom

Ahhh yes, it’s not hard to find the racist undertones when you scratch just below the surface.

From the proud boys, to Carlson, to Gosar, to Dinesh and Donald, the racists are signalling clearly to their base.

Enrique Tarrio:
“This black man was waiting to execute someone on january 6th,” the message reads. “He chose Ashli Babbitt.”
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July 15, 2021 1:08pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Isn’t this the exact same thing that happens every time a black person is shot by cops? Like every time?
  
  That seems to be the main issue most of those people have and it’s not unreasonable. Sure, there are definitely racists trying it on but the ridiculous double standard still exists. Why does she not deserve justice when George Floyd did – regardless of the race of the cop? The moronic Tarrio quote you included is very similar to what many, many people said about Chauvin and like in this case, there was ZERO evidence of racism.
  
  I don’t actually blame the cop that shot Babbitt, the way the whole thing went down, the guy was probably of the belief that they were armed insurrectionists and he and those under his protection were under real threat. A court of law should still be the one to decide that though.
  
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  July 15, 2021 4:14pm
Master Mariner

Why Fishing onsigners crew were not PCR tested before heading to New Plymouth I do not know?
Another ( Maritime) Border lapse. Now most crew have it.

Please see below how rest of world ( Singapore) treats transiting Seafarers as per latest company Intel.

Seafarers & Passengers
Summary
(A) Crew change & crewing policies

• 13 more crew members from the quarantined fishing vessel Viking Bay have tested positive for COVID-19, the Ministry of Health says. All of the infected crew members, including two who previously tested positive, have been moved to an on-shore quarantine facility in Wellington. Five other crew members, who are remaining on board to maintain the vessel, have returned negative test results to date. They will be subject to additional tests in the coming days. Of the infected crew, 12 are regarded as being in the early stages of their infection. One has returned a result indicating either a very early infection or a historical infection. Further testing is planned for today. The Ministry of Health says plans are in place for managing the remaining five crew members should any of them develop symptoms or be confirmed with COVID-19 from further testing. More than half the ship’s crew have been at sea since February. Nine other members joined the crew after arriving in New Zealand on July 5 as part of a scheduled crew change. The infected crew members will be kept in isolation until they have completed their 14 days isolation and recovered.

• MPA has enhanced its crew change requirements for cargo ships arriving at the port as of 9 July, in order to safeguard the wellbeing of seafarers and the population. The requirements for signing-on and -off in Singapore are as follows:

Sign-on

(a) In general, the signing-on crew are required to serve 14-day Stay-Home-Notice (SHN) in the crew’s originating country/region in the period immediately prior to his/her departure flight/ferry to Singapore. The crew should be completely isolated in a room with a dedicated toilet with strictly no interaction with others (including family members) at his/her place of residence, or serve the SHN in a dedicated facility/hotel.

(b) Crew from specific low-risk countries/regions will either not be required to serve the SHN or serve a shorter SHN of 7 days in his/her originating country/region prior to departure for Singapore.

(c) The crew must have a negative result from a COVID-19 test (PCR type) taken at a government-approved or ISO 15189- accredited testing facility at his/her originating country not more than 48 hours prior to departure for Singapore.

(d) The crew must be certified fit-to-travel and have a negative result from an ART (Antigen Rapid Test) certified by a doctor at his/her originating country not more than 24 hours prior to departure for Singapore. If tested positive, the crew shall not take further ARTs to obtain a negative result. Instead, the crew should take another PCR test to confirm if he/she is infected with COVID-19.

(e) During the entire crew change process, including during the journey to Singapore, the crew should not be in a group of more than five persons, and must remain in the same group. There must be no interactions between groups.

(f) The crew should only join his/her ship not more than two days before the date of the ship’s final departure from Singapore. For ships departing for sea trial and returning to Singapore, the date of departure for sea trial will not be considered the date of the ship’s final departure.

(g) Crew shall only join the ship in Singapore after all high-risk2 shore-based personnel have completed their work onboard and disembarked the ship.

(h) Meet-and-greet services must be arranged for sign-on crew arriving at Changi Airport, to escort the crew from the moment they disembark the plane to the point where they are handed over to the agent for the direct transfer to the ship or designated holding facility.

(i) Crew who have recovered from COVID-19 must submit documentary proof of his/her past diagnosis of COVID-19 based on the earliest positive PCR test result. If the date of the positive PCR test result is 21 days or fewer before the date of arrival in Singapore, he/she will not be approved for crew change. If the date of positive PCR test result is more than 21 days before the date of arrival in Singapore, he/she shall comply with the above sign-on requirements.
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July 15, 2021 1:09pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Did the crew members from the quarantined fishing vessel Viking Bay who tested positive for COVID-19 exhibit any symptoms?
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:41pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    test and possibly find out.
    Now most of crew have it, Negligence at its finest.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:55pm
Maggie Pie

Really heavy traffic trying to get off the motorway just past Greenlane.
Cop cars for Africa….

According to the girl at Jack Lum’s, it sounds like the police shot someone waving a gun at people. That’s TWO in the last 24 hours!

Might even go for a walk by myself later along Upland Rd. It’s probably never been safer.
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July 15, 2021 1:11pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  How can this be happening? I thought Wonder Woman confiscated all the guns.
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:20pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Was the alleged criminal’s gun licenced?
  Does the alleged criminal have a criminal record and/or gang affiliation?
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:39pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    Do the papers report gang affiliation? Obviously if you belong to a white supremacist organisation it’s reported. But Eli Epiha, who shot officer Mathew Hunt, don’t mention any gang affiliation? Is it simply Coincidence that Tom Epiha of the same surname is the “Auckland Chapter President” shown in old photos with his daughter Katherine Epiha. Who is now grown and also in jail for another west auckland murder.. Is their any relation? Would they report Eli’s gang affiliations if he had them? If not what was the motivation. And the car jackings. No mention of any gang affiliations. Was it just a random car jacker. They seem to be no longer reporting Gang affiliations unless their is a story about the gangs doing a good deed.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:08pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      If “Epiha” is a rare surname, then your claim will have greater credibility. If there are hundreds of Epiha in Auckland, then not so much.
      
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      July 15, 2021 4:07pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Katrina Epiha is the daughter of Tom Epiha.
        https://toensing.photoshelter.com/image/I000071SxKxkkMc8
        
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        July 15, 2021 4:17pm
      - Surely Knott
        
        Agree. I wish they would say if people were gang related then we wouldn’t be left guessing as to why someone is driving around with a weapon shooting police. But they do give the name of Eli Epiha’s get away driver , Natalie Bracken. And her facebook page is still up with the feature photo of a person with a patched gang jacket on. So maybe they are both gang related. If the herald reported the criminals gang affiliation in the article then when we didn’t see it reported we could assume they weren’t gang related.
        
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        July 15, 2021 4:30pm
    - Scooter
      
      Natalie Bracken fb page, obvious connection to Killer Beez. A real piece of work.
      
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      July 15, 2021 11:22pm
Hugh Jarse

Police shot at last night and end up shooting the offender, police shot at again today and end up wounding two offenders. These and recent incidents are the only likely outcome after four years of no adult supervision in this country, a government focused on making massive social and structural change, wayward incompetent Ministers incapable of setting direction and managing their departments and not ensuring the country is lead responsibly for the majority and managed effectively. And we have another two years of this to go before the next election. This government is incapable of providing governance to New Zealand.
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July 15, 2021 1:21pm
- cmm
  
  This is what you get when the cops abdicate their role as the top of the violence pyramid.
  
  Woke policing leads to a vaccum that will be filled by the criminals.
  
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  July 15, 2021 1:32pm
- MCos
  
  I heard the bloke from the police association on the radio with their view on the situation.
  Too many guns in society being chief among them.
  He said a gun register can’t come soon enough. A lot of guns are stolen. With a register they can be traced back to the owner who can be held responsible for not keeping them secure.
  That’s a medium to long term solution, not a quick fix.
  The Australian trained criminals deported over here are a big problem.
  
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  July 15, 2021 5:23pm
  - kowtow
    
    There are less guns in circulation now , after the govt seizure of lawful firearms from license holders .
    
    But there’s ,at the moment more shootings.
    
    Who says the guns are stolen . The organised crime gangs who import drugs can also import guns …..and do.
    
    A register does not prevent gun crime , it merely registers who has a gun at any particular time , is expensive to operate and would be a waste of police resources to run. ( see the flop it was inCanada)
    
    But yes you have a novel idea there , hold someone who has been victimised by a criminal to be further victimised by a vengeful state.( which doesn’t hold the gangs to account , no instead we give them millions)
    
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    July 15, 2021 6:42pm
    - MCos
      
      Less than 4% of the approx 1.5mil minimum guns (nobody knows how many) were handed in in the buy back and then only of a particular type of gun.
      BTW
      Those guns were no longer lawful.
      
      Nobody knows if a gun is stolen if the owner doesn’t report the theft.
      
      About thirty European countries use the Schengen Information System part of which is a gun register.
      
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      July 15, 2021 7:31pm
      - Sponge
        
        As a law abiding firearm owner I do not want my name on a list that will, almost certainly, be leaked to gangs or other crims. The security at my house is good but I could do without having that sort of risk pushed on to me and my family. Does anyone really trust the Police to manage this sensibly? I have a lot of respect for the Police (and would not do their job for all the money in the world) but I don’t.
        
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  - gorse
    
    A register will do nothing to help. If I had firearms stolen I would let the Police know straight away. Wouldn’t get insurance if I didn’t. If the firearm was found it would have the serial number ground off probably, but no need to trace it back to me as they will have been told. I have heard of a lot of break ins where firearms have been stolen, a while ago now and the Police never bothered to show ip let alone investigate. Any security will not stop professional thieves anyway. A register is a waste of time and money. Watch this space, it will fail, as did the old one.
    
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    July 15, 2021 7:10pm
    - MCos
      
      NZ used to have a gun register, but it was abandoned in 1983.
      Things have changed since then with regard to data storage. There are more than two times as many road vehicles, but information can be retrieved in the blink of an eye.
      
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      July 15, 2021 7:43pm
cmm

While South Africa’s official unemployment rate is at about 35%, the real rate is well over 40%. With the destruction caused in the recent rioting it has probably climbed to 50% or more.

It is hard to see such a fragile economy rebuilding. How do you do that with broken infrastructure, zero reserves, over 50% unemployment and a a corrupt affirmative action system which prevents those with ability from being employed to their maximum output?

Pietermaritzburg and Durban municipalities were already broke and had stopped providing many of their basic service functions. The situation was already badly strained before. As is often the case, the spark that sets it off is not really the cause of the problems – it is just the spark (A bit like how it would be extremely naive to believe that WW1 was caused by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand). Torching and looting trucks on motorways were already common, as well as other criminal acts.

There are so many political factions that would benefit from this rioting as it will cause more poverty and desperation which, in turn, will cause more hostility.

Some elements (especially the EFF) are trying to kick off a Zulu vs Indian civil war. So far that has not happened, but soon the masses will be hungry and start wanting to loot the residential areas. That has already started in some areas, but is not yet widespread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ivPiSyDFsI
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July 15, 2021 1:46pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  OMG…that poor girl that comes on at the end. Made me cry.
  How will they EVER come back from something like that??
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:18pm
  - cmm
    
    You’d really need to dig deep. Hard to do when things have been stretched to the max for the last 30 years and you have no reserves.
    
    Remember this comes on top of:
    * Being embezzled by politicians for at least the last 25 years (and, to be fair, it was already economic weakness that forced the white government to give up).
    * Power shortages meaning the country is without power for hours on end.
    * slowed down huge with CV19.
    * Affirmative action preventing the right brains being plugged in (those that are still there and haven’t left long ago).
    
    Sadly there will be another wave of people giving up and topping themselves.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:14pm
Maggie Pie

You’ll remember last year I raised the problem of attracting Homing Pigeons that were eating the wild birdseed I was putting out…and then they’d shat all over the glass roof of the Conservatory.

Well, if anyone else is in a similar situation, I’ve found the answer…. RED GRAPES!

Pigeons don’t eat them…..the natives love them!!

So ditch the ‘Parrot Mix’ and get a bag of grapes.
I cut them in half and throw them on the back lawn every lunch time.
We get Tui, Miners, Blackies, Starlings, Finches Sparrows.
But no more pigeons….. OR poop on the roof 😀
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July 15, 2021 2:03pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Maggie, did you mean mynas? I’m trying to visualise a bunch of coal miners digging away on your back lawn.
  
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  July 15, 2021 4:13pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear..
The Police Association isn’t impressed with Government handing out money to Mobsters..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/125760782/mobled-rehab-will-only-line-the-pockets-of-gang-leaders–police-association

Might pay for someone to have a word in our PM’s ear and she can do a reset.
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July 15, 2021 2:27pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  When Jacinda said….. “the Police supported the initiative”, what she meant was, that Andy Cap Coster was in favor.
  No one else knew a thing about it! LOL.
  
  Can you imagine the morale of the Boys & Girls in blue out there every day…. LITTERALLY putting their lives on the line?
  
  You can just see Cinders, Kelvinator, Angry, all waving signs around….
  
  ‘DEFUND THE POLICE’
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:48pm
I remember when

So it’s definite.
This was not a good time to give money to the
Mongrel Mob.
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July 15, 2021 2:37pm
- cmm
  
  Would there ever be a good time?
  
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  July 15, 2021 3:16pm
MrTips

In the last 24hrs the cops have had to shoot someone at two separate events, or else they could be the next Constable Matthew Hunt. In Auckland, significant numbers of the general public just going about their daily lives had to watch an armed man run rampant.

I for one am glad the cops are armed and able to take out/down the offenders they way they did.

Not sure if this latest activity represents a kind of fight back by gangs who have found themselves in an ever tightening net thanks to ANOM etc. but it’s pretty clear they are upping the ante.

Meanwhile, Police HQ and the relevant govt Minister seem blissfully unaware or concerned by all this. Its almost like they WANT things to get out of control. Our cops at the coalface need public support, assistance and state backing more than ever. The public must DEMAND it, VEHEMENTLY.
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July 15, 2021 2:38pm
- rouppe
  
  I agree.
  
  Very deliberate anonymity of description. Wonder why that would be?
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:45pm
- MCos
  
  “Meanwhile, Police HQ and the relevant govt Minister seem blissfully unaware or concerned by all this. Its almost like they WANT things to get out of control.”
  
  Are you stupid?
  
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  July 15, 2021 2:51pm
  - cmm
    
    Ok, let’s play devil’s advocate:
    * How would they act if they wanted things to get out of control?
    * How is that different to what they are doing?
    
    Remember cops have the state sanctioned monopoly on violence. That is their number one job – to be top of the violence pyramid so that anyone else who wants to try their luck gets thumped by the cops and backs down. You only get law and order when the cops are on top.
    
    All this recent woke policing is showing that the cops are abdicating that responsibility, so the gangs (and other crims) think they are in with a chance and think they can get away with it.
    
    That top spot has to be filled. If the cops do it we have peace. If they don’t then we get this shit.
    
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    July 15, 2021 3:21pm
  - MrTips
    
    Well, that’s depends on whether you think the govt funding (under the guise of drug rehab) the very same organisation that arranged/concocted the shooting of a policeman is a good thing or not.
    
    The surname of the shooter is well known in those circles, and to the police (and they know his links). How do you think the average cop feels about their higher ups agreeing with funding the organisation that killed one of their own, and everyone has known since that horrible event took place ?
    
    If you did your homework you might not be so quick to spout off.
    
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    July 15, 2021 6:33pm
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  They do want things to get worse. Crisis is mandate.
  
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  July 15, 2021 5:19pm
Inandout

Our news media can also be seen as ‘fixers’ of government scandals and stuff ups.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/old-hollywood-fixers
MGM employed a couple of men to make scandals go away. Fraser house employs hundreds.
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July 15, 2021 3:18pm
Swifty

Says the shoplifter attempting to get out the shop door with two bottles of top shelf “I know my rights! You can’t touch me!!”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/video-shows-attempted-theft-at-birkdale-liquor-store/XMBTLPV3J4AR53QNEUGWGPMAV4/

We have an underclass in NZ – who’s behaviour is squalid. But the worst part is we excuse this behaviour (colonisation, too few jobs, benefits too low) and even incentivise it with perverse policy settings.

What makes me weep though is the actions of the young daughter – firstly she says ‘sorry’ and then returns a bottle. She knows what’s what – I just hope she goes on to have a good life.

I hope someone rescues her.
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July 15, 2021 3:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Something for you socialist leftie jerkoffs. Jaspinda’s donation (vote buying) to the Mongrels is not using Taxpayer’s money, it is money seized from crime???
So, when I commit a crime, such as getting a speeding ticket for going too fast, that fine money should go to re-educate me not to speed, and break my habit of speeding???
Sort your crazy leftist arguments out you socialist wanks
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July 15, 2021 3:47pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Cuba v USA.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpbi89lntrp935z/Covid%20vax%20ID.jpg?dl=0
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July 15, 2021 4:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is a fuckup by me. Can I blame my comp? Nope.
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/f24nslq8vblr7y9/Cuba.jpg?dl=0
  
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  July 15, 2021 4:43pm
Maggie Pie

So, while Cindy’s busy arranging the $2.75 million direct-credit to the Mongrel Mobsters ‘Trust’ Account…..lets see what Judith is up to>>>>

https://twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/1415539265782435840

What an exceptional and caring woman!!
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July 15, 2021 5:34pm
Maggie Pie

And I’ll tell you something else that has just turned to shiite…

Called UberEats to arrange delivery of Pizzas and Chips only to have them call me back to say…. there would be at least a 2 hour delay due to an ‘ongoing police operation’!

WTF? That was 11 0’clock this morning.
Have called *555 three times now to complain…last time she just hung up on me 🙁
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July 15, 2021 5:55pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Cindy getting the wrong sort of overseas attention:
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1415513090796437507
She continues to stun and amaze me with how utterly unaware she is. Complete airhead, born of laziness.
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July 15, 2021 5:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Wow… RNZ now running “Explainers” for all of us deluded folks overwhelmed by National Party misinformation:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/446977/is-labour-funding-the-mongrel-mob-what-you-need-to-know
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July 15, 2021 6:18pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  ~~RNZ~~ Ministry of truth.
  
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  July 15, 2021 9:07pm
krazykiwi

Victoria premier Daniel Andrew’s is, once again, giddy with freshly acquired power over peoples’ lives. The entire state is about to be locked down. Again. Of course, the ‘important’ people will be free to come and go as they choose. The heavy-handedness of the police will be felt by the little people.
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July 15, 2021 6:18pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Quick mea culpa before DG finds my apostrophe catastrophe.
  
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  July 15, 2021 6:26pm
WaveyDavey

WTAF I just saw an ad on three where Matariki is being tied in with Covid 19

Gist of it being if you’d followed stone-age Maori practices the pandemic wouldn’t have happened

I’m almost beyond being surprised but FFS
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July 15, 2021 6:43pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/125766201/nz-on-air-dishes-out-96-million-to-journalism
I am not sure what to say here:
probably something along the lines of “stupid, unquestioning NZ population , including powerless taxpayers, funding Labour-government-approved and Labour-government-supported lies and propaganda via various news agencies.”
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July 15, 2021 7:16pm
- paulscott
  
  Its about total control and required acquiescence of the entire broadcasting Estate. As far as we can hear from overseas it’s working.
  
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