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Happychappy

Finance Minister Grant Robertson on why he needs more Powers to restrict Bank lending .
Why is it that Treasury and Grant Robertson need to change our banking system when really it was his and Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister’s lack luster approach to the housing situation that put us in this situation from the moment they were installed as the Government. They lied and blamed National for our housing crisis only to make three times worse than the problem they inherited and now because of their socialist policies want to dictate to the banks and the RBNZ.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/finance-minister-grant-robertson-on-why-he-needs-more-powers-to-restrict-bank-lending/2RU4P5R6VUMET7WNNZFI7CK7QM/
Personally I would like to get Don Brash opinion to see what thinks as I think this is a step to far that Grant Robertson is taking and close to a dictatorship from a very very poor Government.
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April 27, 2021 8:00am
- Frank the tank
  
  Maduro and Mugabe did similar things to their economies. Cheer up our decent into the third world is only accelerating. Viva (little) Aotearoa.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:20am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Don Brash is nobody. Cindy and Robber have been elected to run the country for at least another 15 years. So they matter to the sheeple.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:17pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    You gotta be joking.
    Cinders has already committed a capital offence denying Parliament it’s sole right to authorise expenditure. No excuses. They’re done for.
    
    Labour may have a majority, they don’t have a government of any competence. They have little authority except conferred by legislation. I see they are now using MBIE to review a whole set of programs; that is properly the prerogative of Treasury not the other sycophants. The member for the Waikato Tribe is stirring up trouble too likely to lead to race wars.
    
    Labour have failed in their duty of care to the extent they have to be called frauds through their reckless abuse of power without authority. They have no mandate to be revolutionaries.
    
    Do we need to send to France for the necessary gear to deal with them if they won’t honourably discharge themselves?
    
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    April 27, 2021 5:46pm
- Bob
  
  Wait until after the May BUDGET. This will be a very very RICH government!
  
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  April 27, 2021 4:44pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Stolen from our children and their children.
    
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    April 27, 2021 5:47pm
- Jack5
  
  Breaking the banks was one of the first thing the Bolsheviks did in their revolution.
  
  The Australian trading banks have serviced NZ business since the country was formed in 1840. Robertson and the loon who runs the Reserve Bank seem determined to drive them out of the country.
  
  We’ll be left with the State’s Kiwibank and minnows bolstered by the announced deposit guarantee scheme.
  
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  April 28, 2021 9:56am
peterwn

Dividend Withholding Tax Issue This will be of interest to shareholders, accountants, tax agents and IRD staff. Recent tax processing changes mean companies paying dividends to shareholders now need to send payment details for each shareholder to IRD and this information is available to taxpayer shareholders via MyIR on IRD’s web site to help taxpayers do tax returns. It is being phased in, so it is not yet mandatory and not all companies are on board with this yet. Normally the two main share registrars Computershare and Link Market Services would arrange this detail. However some of the figures posted are nonsense, in particular the amounts of dividend withholding tax shown are about FOUR TIMES what they should be. The problem is not confined to just one registrar, it seems to be a common problem with both registrars and IRD (not sure who would have caused the error). If these figures are used by taxpayers or tax agents when doing tax returns, then tax refunds or tax to pay will be wrong in the taxpayer’s favour. It will give IRD a nice little headache when they become aware of the problem as it is a fiscal train wreck in the making..
Therefore ignore figures relating to dividends, imputations and dividend withholding tax on the IRD web site. Use the figures off the dividend notices posted or emailed to you instead. Alternatively Computershare and Link will each send you a list of dividends etc at a fairly fancy cost to help you do your tax returns.
Parliament is not sitting this week or I would have tipped off a MP about this issue for possible Question Time use.
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April 27, 2021 8:00am
- graham
  
  Thanks for the information peterwn. I record all our dividends as they come in, using a spreadsheet, so at the end of each tax year it’s very quick to record all the info. But if I had noticed this I would have been scratching my head trying to work out where the mistake was.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:37am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    You are so meticulous bro! Using spreadsheets to record dividends eh? So you have to be a rich prick. Are you paying your fair share of the tax to restore social justice? If not let me know immediately.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:19pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Actually the cost to get the summary is (or was) around $45 and that fee is itself tax deductible. So hardly “fairly fancy”, or so it seems to me.
    
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    April 27, 2021 3:40pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  IRD has been struggling with its massive system upgrades. They now include furious penalty action-no arguing with a computer. The commissioner’s discretion seem to be relegated to an after thought.
  
  The WRT tax reporting has been in use for 2 years or more. I had all that formal fiddle faddle with a client with the risk of penalties for untimeliness. IRD messed up in their payment allocation. Their new internal tax accounting codes were not synced with the banks.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:19am
- artemisia
  
  I have completed the dividend info on two IR3s for family so far. One matches my own figures. The other one almost does but not quite because the IRD info has missed one divvy, paid in March. Now manually added.
  
  Quite surprised actually as not small numbers of dividends.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:27am
  - peterwn
    
    It was not that IRD missed the dividend, the company or its share registrar did not provide the info to IRD. It is not yet mandatory for companies to provide the information to IRD as this requirement is still being phased in. Companies such as CEN, IFT, MCY etc have provided this information while PFI, KPG and PCT have not. It is interesting that the Dividend Withholding Tax seemed to have been correct in your case, it was not in both cases I have dealt with.
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:08am
    - artemisia
      
      Yes RWT correct in both cases. The one divvy missed was the second in the tax year, so may just be a timing issue.
      
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      April 27, 2021 1:18pm
Maggie Pie

DR. SIOUXSIE WILES

Sex Expert – OR – Attention Seeker 😛

https://twitter.com/SiouxsieW/status/1386545456759459840
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April 27, 2021 8:07am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Wiles shit whatever credibility she had, pretty much none after beginning to tout the red mantra rather than the science imo.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:19am
- Frank the tank
  
  Siouxsie Wiles – Aotearoan of the year. An expert at everything and nothing at the same time. Giving hope to talentless hacks and scientific carpet baggers the country over.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:24am
  - Twinkletoes
    
    For most women she is preaching to the converted! Nothing new in this world!
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:23am
  - Homas
    
    From watching the “evolution” of her opining on Covid, I can honestly say I have never seen anyone take so many contradictory positions without ever (apparently) having been wrong once.
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:36am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Atiaroa.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:22am
- peterwn
  
  She understands an important lesson in life which I never understood despite being told -‘put your goods in the shop window’. If someone desires to get promotion at work, become Mayor of Wellington, become a prominent influencer etc, that person must promote their talents and put them on display. No use hiding them under a bushel.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:32am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    That may be true, but my Mum gave me some good advice when I was young, that could equally apply: “Don’t be a show-off, son, you’re not impressing anyone.”
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:17am
    - BeeJay
      
      My Mum always said “ better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, than open it and remove all doubt”!
      A few times I do have to admit that I wish I had heeded her advice!
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:28am
      - Tarquin North
        
        Would have to be a very large bushel for her to hide under it.
        
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        April 27, 2021 11:54am
- SB2
  
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  MP, never knew that you were that prudish and squeamish
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:48am
- Stellaboxer
  
  I think the colour of her hair answers the question of attention seeking. Sex expert? Fortunately I have not had any experience to answer that one but suspect it’s all part of her career pathway.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:59am
  - Paulus
    
    She is already set up for a high Labour List seat in the next election as she stands out !
    
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    April 27, 2021 1:49pm
- doggone7
  
  She doesn’t need to go on about orgasms.
  
  She clearly screws with people’s heads because she’s a woman, she often wears clothes which don’t fit the norm, she has coloured hair, she’s an academic, she has opinions, she gets in the news and sometimes she agrees with the government.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:33am
  - david
    
    I think you (d7) meant to say “ ……….. news and always she agrees with the government.”
    
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    April 27, 2021 1:08pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Whatever she is – one thing is sure. She will be high on Labour’s list in 2023. Moving on…..
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:21pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    ~~Labour~~ Died in the ashes won’t be even offering candidates in 2023.
    
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    April 27, 2021 5:50pm
- TWEEDSE
  
  When I first saw Siouxsie I thought she was the spitting image of Rowlf the piano player from the Muppets.
  
  I wonder if she plays the piano and can give us a rendition of Cottleston Pie.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Prob recites the same stink jokes as well. Man they are bland
    
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    April 27, 2021 3:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Another good interview with Dr Shane Reti at 5:50am.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/first-up/audio/2018793077/reti-diversifying-trade-away-from-china-good-thing

Dr Reti gives clear crisp answers… no waffle.

Such a pity RNZ hides his interview from the front of its web site.
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April 27, 2021 8:08am
- Frank the tank
  
  He’s the wrong type of Maori just like Simon and Paula. Just ask ‘ol’ Steamboat’ Willy Jackson the loyal Labour Maori stormtrooper.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:26am
  - Unity
    
    Except didn’t Willy Jackson’s DNA prove that he is not Maori?!! Even though he wants to be one.
    
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    April 27, 2021 8:51am
    - G152
      
      Sids worst fears may have been true then……
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:18pm
- Mike
  
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  Hiding it by publishing it. Damnably cunning.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:36am
  - kowtow
    
    Does happen.
    
    Last night TV 3 “news” did a long lead story on a gang trying to rob a petrol station. I suspect the only reason it was covered as a long lead was they had lots of CCTV footage ,so it made “good copy”
    
    The face of one of the would be robbers was pixillated .
    
    The story didn’t say there’d been any arrests ,so why protect or even attempt to protect the identity of someone who the police will want to be having a chat to ?
    
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    April 27, 2021 8:54am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Was the video made in NZ? I have seen news footage for the Kuwait war being filmed in another country–live actors, smoke and all.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:25am
    - rouppe
      
      Because it might constitute “profiling”?
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:13pm
  - graham
    
    Strange thing, Mike – after reading your comment, I went back and reread Maggy’s original comment, just to make sure I hadn’t missed something. And having reread it, I still had absolutely no problem understanding what Maggy meant when she wrote this:
    
    Such a pity RNZ hides his interview from the front of its web site.
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:19am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    You’re really thick, aren’t you Mike?
    
    “Such a pity RNZ hides his interview from the front of its web site.”
    
    A simple search of the RNZ website home page, so simple even you could do it (hint: Ctrl + F is your friend), shows not one mention of Shane Reti. Ditto for the Radio tab – not a mention.
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:24am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Mike/Mikenmildagain just up to his usual deflection/distraction trolling.
      
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      April 27, 2021 9:41am
      - igm
        
        [no we’re not going to have that kind of unsubstantiated personal attack – Mod]
        
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        April 27, 2021 10:15am
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Lt – a really interesting thing. Ctrl F ( Reti as key) does throw up a hit in the find dialogue box but no visual highlight ( in other words it’s hidden text). Use of their search engine throws up the visual link immediately ( under Audio Politics) but there is no visual link on the Politics page for Audio.
      What this suggests to me is that this obscure tagging technique is a nice work around for RNZ defending complaints of “lack of balance” that might be referred to the Bull Sh*t Authority.
      
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      April 27, 2021 10:01am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        You’re doing better than me, my septuagenarian friend. I just tried again on the rnz website (https://www.rnz.co.nz/) and the Radio tab (https://www.rnz.co.nz/radio), using Ctrl + F with key Reti (or reti) gets no match. Either way, it’s hard to find unless you know it’s there somewhere and go looking.
        
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        April 27, 2021 1:35pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Could be Chrome from the tool bar perhaps? Interestingly I couldn’t find a hit in the View Page Source version code when I went to respond to another comment this arvo as a reference. It’s the world of the inet 🙂
        
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        April 27, 2021 3:38pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Bugger WP – Snip tool shot would be great to drop in – but it doesn’t change my view that the only way you can find it is using their tags using their site search engine with a prior knowledge of a key per MW’s original link 🙂
        
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        April 27, 2021 4:04pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Normal people would think hiding a story would involve not publishing it.
    RNZ are so sensitive about covering for the government on this issue that they interviewed Reti, broadcast the interview and linked the interview on its website.
    But maybe I should be used to the paranoid style of Kiwiblog comments by now.
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:57am
    - graham
      
      My word, you’re getting pedantic here mikenmildagain. And yet, you still manage to get it wrong. At the risk of repeating myself, I think it’s blindingly obvious what Maggy meant:
      
      Such a pity RNZ hides his interview from the front of its web site.
      
      And Loddenthinks laid it out for you in words of … okay, some of the words were two syllables, but still not that onerous.
      
      Let it go.
      
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      April 27, 2021 10:51am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Not putting a story on the front page is not the same as ‘hiding’ it.
        Sorry, but I can’t put it any clearer for the morons.
        
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        April 27, 2021 12:40pm
      - Batman
        
        That, and Reti’s piece was just not as important as holding the government to account for the emergency accommodation cockup, at least from the point of view of me as a motorist driving in traffic this morning!
        
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        April 27, 2021 1:05pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        With apologies to graham but mike can’t receive replies so:
        “Not putting a story on the front page is not the same as ‘hiding’ it.
        Sorry, but I can’t put it any clearer for the morons.”
        
        1) But is failing to provide visual links on a visual medium except by way of a text search not the same as hiding it?: and
        2) Given you seem to have a bit of a love affair with the mo*** descriptor at the moment maybe a profile edit to your handle along the lines of mikenmor**icagain might be timely perhaps?
        
        Just a thought.
        
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        April 27, 2021 2:26pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        By that logic, there would need to be a visual link from the RNZ home page to every damn story. absurd, especially for one audio item in a news broadcast, don’t you think?
        
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        April 27, 2021 5:34pm
      - graham
        
        * Sigh *.
        
        I honestly cannot understand how you can misconstrue the phrase:
        
        Such a pity RNZ hides his interview from the front of its web site.
        
        in the way you have.
        
        I suspect you’re doing it deliberately, but never mind. If it gives you pleasure, then fine.
        
        Feel free to respond and have the last word.
        
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        April 27, 2021 7:55pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Comprehension fail. Again. I guess bolding the relevant part isn’t enough for you.
      
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      April 27, 2021 10:55am
    - Keith White
      
      mma: The hole is already deep enough, you can put the spade down…
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:45am
- Paulus
  
  Reti is not the Piper who controls the tune so it will not be played at any reasonable time.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:47am
- Jack5
  
  Shane Reti was very impressive in that interviewee, Maggy. He’s an intelligent and reasonable man. I would very likely vote for him if his name were on my ballot paper.
  
  The problem is how could National convince voters of Reti’s ability when the State media monolith (State TV, State Radio, and the subsidised newspapers) is so Left and so Woke?
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:42am
  - Jack5
    
    Imagine if Shane Reti were Prime Minister and Jacindarella were Leader of the Opposition. Both were brought up Mormons.
    
    Those polite young folk, mostly Americans, door knocking over the decades have been more successful than they expected.
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:13am
- SB2
  
  Easily found. Diversify trade away from China?
  
  Precisely How? The Devil will be in the non-detail I think.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:51am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “Easily found, now that Maggy has told me it’s there, since there are no other indications on their website.”
    
    There, I fixed it for ya.
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:56am
- Martin Williams
  
  A total turn around from John Key’s strategy. That’s telling.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:08am
  - Batman
    
    Martin, a quick google of the trade deals signed by the Key administration might be awkward for your argument here.
    
    Remember the TPP, which you were no doubt against?
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:59am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Nobody was listening to him at 5:50 AM except his dog.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:21pm
hullkiwi

Last night TVNZ ran a piece on the 6pm News about how the Met Service now has capacity to tell us (the sheeple) what the impact of a volcanic eruption will be.

Well, excuse me, how about getting better accuracy into your weather forecasts.

In short,the Met Service were boasting how they can help forecast the next eruption. No they can’t. All they can predict which way and how far an Ash cloud will drift/spread. This given:

1. The volume of material erupted;
2. The speed/intensity/force of the eruption;
3. The direction of the wind; and
4. The wind speed.

So, the Met Service can tell us where erupted material is likely to blow in an eruption. Which is important given the disruption volcanic eruptions can cause. An example being the Icelandic eruption in April/May 2010 that disrupted air travel in Western Europe.

But lesson for NZ Media,try and get the story correct!
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April 27, 2021 8:20am
- GazzaW
  
  Are there any Kiwis left at Met Service? Every time we hear a comment from Met Service or their clone NIWA it seems to come from a woke foreigner.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:51am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Can they tell us about the 93 volcanoes under Antarctica or the multitude on which Auckland City is built?
  Stick to weather before global warming melts them.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:23am
- Twinkletoes
  
  We were doing this sort of thing in the sixties at HAFMED (HQ ALLIED FORCES MEDITERRANEAN) in Malta G.C. when I was a Wren meteorological in the Royal Navy.
  
  Upper air analysis every six hours in case of a nuclear attack in those days. Sent to all Navies in order to restation ships in case an “event” occurred, we covered from Russia to America, North Africa to Greenland. We also had a daily SUBSUNK task, fortunately neither ever occurred in my time. Satellites unheard of then, all done by radio sonde balloons from the area we covered.
  
  Now all done by satellites and computers which arrived in the eighties when I was working at Kelburn and the threat of nuclear war was long past. Used for the airlines , the upper air forecasts were actually bought from Uxbridge in UK altho’ we still had an upper air desk locally.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:07am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Met service can also advise you about your tax affairs. Please listen to them.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:22pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Notice play school TV1 does not even show an isobar map anymore. Some of us boaties can read them very well thankyou
  
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  April 27, 2021 3:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Securing your money in the bank?
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/deposit-protection-higher-risk-higher-levy
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April 27, 2021 8:28am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Best security get Robbo (Pooh Bah) out of being Minister of Finance. An assistant uni cafe hand is not adequate for that role.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:26am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Grant Muldoon, you mean?
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:37am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Unless you want Thea to haunt you and a revisit from Lange don’t attribute any of Muldoon’s ability to Grant.
      
      Muldoon had the awful task of undoing the runaway wage/price spiral that Labour had started. A new one from a Cinder’s novice Labour ungovernment is underway too.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:34am
Maggy Wassilieff

Solar Panels produced by Uighur forced labour?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/23/revealed-uk-solar-projects-using-panels-from-firms-linked-to-xinjiang-forced-labour
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April 27, 2021 8:31am
- igm
  
  Have you overlooked Covid-19 produced in a Wuhan laboratory?
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:38am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not at all…
    
    I “share regrets about limited access to early samples and data that could explain how the pandemic came about.”
    
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nz-releases-belated-criticism-of-who-covid-report
    
    I’m leaving our Government to reveal the truth of the matter from the Podium.
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:20am
    - SB2
      
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      MW, another juicy conspiracy theory in the making.
      
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      April 27, 2021 9:56am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        It’s not juice it’s mire. I doubt if a glimmer of truth has been seen yet.
        
        Is the Indian situation a fresh start to help their international relations? If opponents don’t believe in physical war if it can be avoided, what could be better?
        
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        April 27, 2021 11:38am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        This is the official opinion of our Government, SB2
        
        It is clear many questions remain unanswered as to exactly how the virus was first introduced into the human population…
        
        We share the regrets of others at the limitations around access to early samples and related data.
        
        https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/media-and-resources/new-zealand-statement-on-who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-covid-19/
        
        Why didn’t the CCP release all its information to the WHO experts?
        
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        April 27, 2021 11:41am
    - igm
      
      Do not hold your breath.
      
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      April 27, 2021 10:17am
  - SB2
    
    igm , the factual evidence for that or out one one of your more usual tangents?
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:56am
- NoCash
  
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  This relentless anti China propaganda by the Western MSN is getting tiresome. The BBC report on forced labour has been rebutted by many vloggers (many here will simply call them CCP shills without watching any of the videos for a second, that’s fine, but I think it would be beneficial to keep an open mind).
  
  If our govts in the West are so concerned, then Uncle Sam should go ahead and send in the troops to liberate the oppressed. Oh and Australia should put money where its mouth is and stop exporting coal, iron ore, and all other stuffs to China.
  
  Rant is over.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:20am
  - NoCash
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QhUiLoxlAI
    
    More CCP propaganda?
    
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    April 27, 2021 6:44pm
Simon

The ANZAC’s/ French/ Brits in Gallipoli 1915 won / avoided a stalemate in WW2 for the Allies.

Gallipoli the good fight.

Without capitalist lend-lease the commie Soviet Union would have collapsed during WW2. One of the key considerations for Gallipoli campaign was a lend lease type in WW1 for the Russian Empire. Didnt really happen in WW1. Later the Russian Empire collapsed. A coup against the Russian parliament by the commies finished it off.

But the Gallipoli campaign help keep then Turkey out of WW2 ensuring lend lease could go through to Soviet Union in part via Iran.
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April 27, 2021 8:32am
- SB2
  
  “Without capitalist lend-lease the commie Soviet Union would have collapsed during WW2′
  
  And the war would have lasted much longer and cost more lives.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:57am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You will have to explain more clearly how you think the Gallipoli campaign helped to keep Turkey out of WWII. Of course, Turkey did join the war in the last year.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:59am
- KevO'Brien
  
  There appears to have been hidden strategies at work. Churchill expressed regrets but saw necessity.
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:43am
Loddenthinks

Hypocrisy Award of the Week? Woke idiots are completely fine with enlisting schoolchildren to become activists, striking for “climate change”, protesting outside legitimate businesses for three days and so on, yet their heads explode when those businesses engage PIs to keep an eye on them and protect their businesses and livelihoods.

Some of the funnier quotes:

“Greenpeace Aotearoa Programme Director Niamh O’Flynn said spying on children engaged in a peaceful protest was “completely reprehensible and heavy-handed”.” but what Greenpeace is doing by inserting those children is completely OK, is it?

“Climate Justice Taranaki” (whatever the frick that is) spokeswoman Catherine Cheung said “It was a serious breach of privacy and the democratic rights of the young, the most vulnerable, at a time when they are desperately pushing for real climate action, so that they will have a future, she said.” Here’s the news Cathy – “the young” don’t have any democratic rights. The clue is in the name; generally speaking, western democracies ensure voters are of an age where they have a chance at forming a rational opinion on matters politic before they’re allowed to cast a ballot.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/124928108/private-investigators-targeting-school-children-labelled-totally-immoral-but-not-unexpected
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April 27, 2021 8:34am
- kowtow
  
  Similar story in today’s ODT .
  Must be part of the concerted effort of the papers involved in CCN .
  
  So much for an independent media .
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:48am
Simon

Chauvin show trial. Convicted for accident and purposely killing.

Salem witch trials for 2021. Mob justice so perfect for clown world.
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April 27, 2021 8:37am
- Frank the tank
  
  Let’s see how it plays out in the appeal courts that are less tied into the emotion of the case.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:41am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I’m curious; do US citizens have option of a judge only trial to avoid the dangers of emotional/irrational jurors? or is that only in English derived legal systems?
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:28am
  - fernglas
    
    Even here, class A drugs and murder are only by jury
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:41am
- SB2
  
  Simon, utter piffle!
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:58am
Steve Todd

James A. Haught*, who is 89 (b. February 20, 1932), gives examples of his favourite writing; mostly short stories. I was pleasantly surprised to see Katherine Mansfield’s 1922 short story, The Garden Party, is included.

See
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2021/04/exquisite-writing/?

* Haught is editor emeritus of West Virginia’s largest newspaper, The Charleston Gazette-Mail, and a senior editor of Free Enquiry magazine.

# If you try and copy-and-paste this article, or excerpts from it, you will find you can’t — at least, not easily. Here’s why: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2021/04/about-patheos-copy-protection/?
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April 27, 2021 8:38am
Simon

Can the National Party reverse NZ’s slide into Banana Republic status? Or is the damage too great and National just too far gone as well?
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April 27, 2021 8:40am
- Unity
  
  I’m cautiously optimistic that National will surprise us, in a positive way. I went to a very interesting meeting yesterday where Judith Collins spoke to us and I came away feeling much better about National. Many of the negative things Labour are doing will be reversed. Of course I’m well aware that people can say anything but will they do it when they can?.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:58am
  - SB2
    
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    Slide into Banana Republic status ?
    
    How?
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:00am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Open your f****n eyes.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:30am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      It’s already here.
      The problem now is routing the commie neer-do-wells. They are self limiting and inflation, if nothing else, will do the trick.
      The restart will not be easy but National has picked up the pieces previously.
      NZ must be got working again.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:48am
    - Frank the tank
      
      1). Increased gang numbers and activity
      2). Increasing pover(dy) sic
      3). Increased inequality
      4). Wonky, shonky laws that create separate classes of citizen
      5). Inability to fund and build critical infrastructure
      6). Lack of transparency regarding governance and flow of funds
      7). Inability of law enforcement agencies to manage crime and law and order
      8). State-funded biased media
      9). Gerrymandering laws to remove freedom of speech
      10). Increased crime and violence
      
      Viva (little) Aotearoa. The first nation to turn back time into the 3rd world.
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:06pm
      - Keith White
        
        Maybe we are neck-and-neck with the French and Germans? The Brits are a close 4th…
        
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        April 27, 2021 3:14pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Well said Frank.
        
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        April 27, 2021 7:24pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        I think Argentina beat us to it.
        
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        April 27, 2021 11:05pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Judith Collins is waste of time. No new ideas, nothing to excite people. She is dead woman walking as Duncan (Labour voting) Garner aptly put it.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:27pm
  - curry4me
    
    Unity: Good to hear. It’s up to all of us to hold their feet to the fire though.
    
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    April 27, 2021 6:51pm
- RoboRob
  
  Historically Labour make major changes to the system and the Nats come in and tidy them up. Unfortunately, as we found with John Key and Working For Families, the Nats are too scared to completely roll back policies. So yeah we are stuck with the BS policies of this ‘government’.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:59am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    The PM is on record somewhere ( can’t remember the exact ref) as saying that one of the aims of their legislative programme is to make it really difficult for a future government to turn new legislation around. This is of course, from their perspective, the only redeeming factor that any new law must possess.
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:31am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Some changes are irreversible. The winter energy payment I expect to remain.
    
    WFF for families is a complex set of policies to attempt to get equity among the lower paid workers, those out of work and those who need support. It aims to provide a minimum level of income for all and replaced the former child support tax rebates. Those who are actually in work get a further allowance to recognise and reward that. Overall it is “not bad”.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:56am
    - doublehappy
      
      Working For Families (WFF) is what is causing all the social problems in NZ. The start of the rot was making being a solo parent a career choice. Hand outs should be emergency only and getting people into work should be compulsory, not a choice. WFF is easily cheated as well. Taking cashies to keep yourself just under the threshold used to be the normal way. Perhaps now with the increase in tradies rates it is not so common.
      
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      April 27, 2021 4:02pm
      - Sacha
        
        The rot had set in long before the introduction of WFF.
        Paying people to have babies was the start, and the benefit ‘creep’ has led us to where we are now – supporting whole families for life, who cannot raise their kids to be useful citizens or even be useful themselves.
        IMO parents should be responsible for the support of their pregnant daughters, and for seeing the fathers of their children off with a shotgun.
        Families who are chronically homeless should be sent back to their relatives.
        I imagine that it would take about 5 years for parents to start rebelling. The government could tell them that they are reaping the rewards of their carelessness, and resolutely look the other way.
        The rest of us would be looking for guns to protect our way of life.
        Yee-hah!
        
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        April 27, 2021 7:01pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      WFF is an “in-work tax credit”. Google around a bit and you will find that a fair number of other countries have similar schemes.
      
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      April 27, 2021 4:04pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Yes they can but they won’t. They are in no worse a position now than they were in 1988 or 2003. They will get elected again because Labour are incompetent but they will not reverse the damage done by Labour because they are gutless.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:01am
- thirteenstars
  
  National is nothing more than a party of enablers.
  
  Labour moves two steps left, National moves one step. Rinse and repeat for a couple of decades and you end up with Dumb and Dumber, 2021 Edition.
  
  Except, Labour has principles that it is committed to and will tolerate no deviation from. You may not like those principles but they are the principles that are increasingly impacting your life. National only pay lip service to theirs, and when people have no principled stand to vote for, they vote for naked self-interest.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:22am
  - krazykiwi
    
    +10
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:12pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  National is the Can Do Party and Does.
  Labour is the Says Part and Doesn’t.
  
  Nil contest.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:32am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    National has always been, and always will be, the party of the status quo. Never initiates change, only accepts whatever changes are bequeathed to them by the previous Labour government – after furiously opposing such changes, of course.
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:03am
    - RockyJ
      
      Labour is run by intellectuals. Intellectuals believe in “transformational change” rather than continuous improvement. This is driven by their egotistical need to leave a personal mark on history. The problem is that when a complex system is running reasonably well, as NZ was before 2017, transformational change just fucks things up. As we are seeing now in housing, education and will see shortly in health.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:17am
      - tf78
        
        Rocky J – that’s the Tui Ad of the year!
        
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        April 27, 2021 11:48am
      - Bob
        
        Rocky,
        Please enlighten me; who is the intellectual one in the Labour government.
        Apparently the NZ across the population average IQ is 95, this government would be pushing to average 80 -85.
        
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        April 27, 2021 2:53pm
      - RockyJ
        
        Good point, Bob. By “intellectual” I really mean an over-educated under-achiever. The sort that hides out in the Humanities departments of universities.
        I had in mind the quote by George Orwell “some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them”.
        During my consulting career I came across numerous senior managers brought into organisations as “transformational change managers”. Often egotistical to a fault all they achieved was a lot of pain and poor performance. I came to believe that in many cases the answers to the performance issues already resided with the people doing the work and that tapping their insights led to more sustained continuous improvement.
        
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        April 27, 2021 4:30pm
    - RoboRob
      
      Hate to agree but you are correct. Under Key, the Nats tinkered and tidied but no real change occurred. It seems it is always Labour that makes the major changes. The promised RMA changes never eventuated. They can blame the minor parties all they want but they could have gotten something through.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:21am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      National are the Party which pick up the remaining pieces after the Labour mess.
      Too much attention to unions, inadequate understanding of workflows, income and taxes; too much attention to feelingz and inflation takes off…
      Have you checked the supermarket prices, how about building costs?
      
      National don’t change society every time because they have dedicated foreign ideologies to follow. They look, discern and think before they act. They don’t create scandal at the UN and dissent among our Maori and Maori with Pakeha.
      
      Labour act well outside their realms of competence to the extent of what would be considered negligent fraud. They have abandoned the duty of care which is the first duty of Government, not that of trying to remodel NZ to their red-haired image.
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:09pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  There’s very little National can do from the Opposition benches Simon. Perhaps if the media wasn’t so fixated on rolling Judith Collins, National might finally get some traction. If you go looking, there’s been an abundance of criticism of the Government in recent weeks, and plenty of alternatives suggested. But are they reported? We all know the answer to that!
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:41am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Agree with you on most of that, however:
    
    “But are they reported? We all know the answer to that!”
    
    I think some of it might be there Tony, but extremely well “hidden” in online news sources so that the average “click bait ” reader will never see it as demonstrated by the RNZ/Reti article today.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:42am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    National are rolling…
    The fires have been lit.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:11pm
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      They will land straight into the fire. Do you realise KevO’ you and I are the only National supporters left in the country now? Rest of them are with ACT now.
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:25pm
  - Bob
    
    National don’t have $150 mill to outbid the Communists for positive media journalism.
    
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    April 27, 2021 2:56pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  There is no party called National in NZ any more. They are useless.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:24pm
Maggie Pie

My partners mum was telling us she listened to ZB’s Bruce Russell on late night talkback when the subject came up about the appointment of a new GG, once Dame Patsy’s reign ends later this year.

Bruce asked for listeners to call or txt in with who they thought would be a good choice for the job. She reckons ‘hands down’ it went to Winston Peters…..with well over 80% of those calling in giving Winnie the nod!

Apparently other names that got a mention, were Tama Iti, Wendy Petrie, Peter Williams, Heather Simpson, Paula Bennett, Mikey of Dunedin, Len Brown, and Brian McDonald.
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April 27, 2021 8:42am
- hullkiwi
  
  With a list like that, who knows who NZ would end up with as president. If the country was a Republic, and we (the sheeple) elected somebody to be president.
  
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  April 27, 2021 8:48am
- RoboRob
  
  Lol. A sample base of aged pensioners who can’t sleep. No wonder Winston came out on top 🙂
  
  That said, if it wasn’t for never wanting Winston to have access to the public purse again, he probably would be ok a a GG.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:01am
- Clyde
  
  Ah, but its all down to Jacinda isn’t it? The person chosen will be an integral part of the greater plan and so Winston won’t be in the starting gate. It will have to be a woke superstar willing to promote you know who.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:09am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Clark
    
    Bloody ‘eck!
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:40am
  - oldfella
    
    Clyde, a MAORI woke superstar. no whiteys will be considered.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:53am
- graham
  
  … which just goes to show the general quality of callers you get on late night talkback.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:21am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I predict that the next GG will be a Maori woman.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:23am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    You mean Kiri Te Kanawa?
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:35am
    - NoCash
      
      Was driving past the Trentham Memorial Park on the weekend and I told my wife about the free home coming concert of Kiri Te Kanawa at the park back in 1990 (?) and how wonderful it was.
      
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      April 27, 2021 10:24am
      - NoCash
        
        https://youtu.be/lxvV-yu67cE?t=4029
        
        Her home coming concert in Auckland (one of the 3 including the Trentham one), singing Pokarekare Ana towards the end.
        
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        April 27, 2021 7:41pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    NZ has already had two Maori (Sir Paul Reeves and Sir Jerry Mateparae) and an Indian/Pacifica (Sir Anand Satyanand) as Governors General.
    Not too bad for a country of white privilege ruined by colonisation and old rich men eh.
    
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    April 27, 2021 10:32am
    - cas
      
      My partner and I think it will be Sir Wira Gardiner. A go to man for this Govt despite the connections to the other side.
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:30pm
      - DeepBlue
        
        Can’t afford to take the latest ‘fix it’ person out of operation.
        
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        April 27, 2021 2:56pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Not to mention 3 of the last 6 have been women – Cath Tizard, Sylvia Cartwright and Patsy Reddy.
      
      Not a bad bunch of dames, if you take my drift.
      
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      April 27, 2021 1:42pm
  - Bob
    
    I suspect that the next GG may be named Helen!
    
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    April 27, 2021 4:50pm
  - CommanderC
    
    And that’s what’s we love about New Zealand — we can all produce a list of potential credible outstanding non-political G-G’s, and even if we are told the list could only include women or non-white or foreign-born or “young”, the list would be long.
    
    Equal opportunity here!
    
    Dame Sian Elias
    
    Dame Kiri Te Kanawa
    
    Lt-Col Sir Wiri Gardiner (I forgot was married to Pauline Gardiner and is now married to Hekia Parata, and is father of film producer Ainsley Gardiner)
    
    I support “young” though:
    
    Sir Richie McCaw
    
    (He’s and Sir Peter Jackson are the only ones on the Order of NZ who are under age 65.)
    
    Note that Sir John Key is the only credible candidate under age 65 who is a Grand Companion or a Distinguised Companion of the NZ Order of Merit.
    
    (The other under age 65 can’t be selected as she is the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Dame Helen Winkelmann)
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_New_Zealand
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Order_of_Merit
    
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    April 27, 2021 5:16pm
  - CommanderC
    
    Under age 65 and either on the ONZ or the Grand/Distinguished Companions of the NZOM, the only available are:
    
    Sir Richie McCaw
    Sir Peter Jackson
    Sir John Key
    
    For ex-Chiefs of the NZDF we have:
    
    Lt-Gen Rhys Jones, CNZM and CEO of Fire & Emergency NZ
    
    Lt-Gen Tim Keating, ?NZM — but what has happened to him, he’s disappeared off the radar ??????
    
    and then Prince Harry, which would be a boost to tourism and foreign media interest I guess lolol
    
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    April 27, 2021 5:27pm
- MCos
  
  The only controversial appointment I can recall was Keith Holyoake, appointed by Rob Muldoon, because he was a recently retired politician & PM.
  Catherine Tizard, appointed by Jim Bolger was former mayor of Auckland.
  Apart from that they’ve been judges, bishops and army types of late.
  Might be a handy way to move Trevor Mallard along.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:59am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Perish the thought!
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:18pm
  - Nickc2
    
    WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT MCos!!!!!
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:53pm
  - CommanderC
    
    haha good pick, imagine that!
    
    now how would one rank:
    
    Sir Trevor Mallad, G-G
    
    vs
    
    Sir Winston Peters, G-G
    
    vs
    
    Sir Ron Mark, G-G
    
    vs
    
    Dame Helen Clark, G-G
    
    vs
    
    Dame Metiria Turei, G-G
    
    I think in general that any PM will tend to avoid picking a politican and go for someone “safe” who is not interested in power.
    
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    April 27, 2021 4:38pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Why not the lawnmower man?
      
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      April 27, 2021 6:04pm
- SB2
  
  And why not hot gosser Maggie Pie?
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:01am
  - RockyJ
    
    SB2, you are right! Maggie Pie would be a great Governor General.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:20am
- NoCash
  
  Winston Peters would be the perfect GG, not least for preventing him from trying to get back to the Parliament again.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:16am
- lifesgood
  
  Surely they were taking the piss. There’s no other explanation. Oh wouldn’t Winnie just love the baubles, though.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:57am
- Graeme Hall
  
  My favourite nomination was Sir Tim Shadbolt. Ol’ Shadders needs the money (badly), loves fame, loves dressing up, & could still be capable of signing off with a rubber stamp.
  
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  April 27, 2021 1:03pm
- Sacha
  
  Bruce was being a bit silly.
  He completely omitted to mention that the GG is the Queen’s representative, and would only approve someone whom she felt was appropriate. And of course, no government would want to have their nominee rejected.
  
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  April 27, 2021 7:09pm
Paulus

Next GG will be Mahuta as an entree to being the first President,
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April 27, 2021 8:49am
- KevO'Brien
  
  A Waikato takeover would cause an inter-tribal war.
  (We are not far off that now.)
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:34am
- Gravelroad
  
  There was talk a while ago that Labour Party stalwart and former cabinet minister, Annette King, might get the nod for GG. Has all the connections and socialist gravitas after all.
  Might be a bit old now as in her 70’s – Sydney can be a bit racy.
  Prince Harry was another but he has burnt his bridges and it would have been a total bore for him.
  Not to worry, I see he and his missus are getting another book written (or maybe updating previous one) about how they escaped the limelight and expectations of being royal celebrities.
  Will wait to see a chapter on how they just want their privacy to live a simple life in their mansion without publicity ……..
  
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  April 27, 2021 1:02pm
  - Sacha
    
    I heard something about the new baby being carried by a surrogate friend of Harry. Supported by claims that Harry’s Wife does not have a ‘normal’ pregnancy ‘bump’.
    ZB talkback certainly puts one to sleep –
    
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    April 27, 2021 7:12pm
Rusty

Could someone start up another news broadcaster in this country?
I know its been discussed before and the reasons given like who would finance it or NZ’s too small etc, but its not impossible in my view.

A conservative news medium giving Kiwis a balanced reporting of the news and allowing them to make their own minds up on what to believe sounds more closer to freedom of speech than what we are ditched out at the moment.

Example: Did you know their are protest marches in their thousands happening in the UK over their lock downs at the moment?

You wouldn’t know if you watch only TV ONE or 3 NEWS,
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April 27, 2021 8:57am
- MCos
  
  If it was conservative it wouldn’t be balanced by definition.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:01am
  - Keith White
    
    If it was conservative it would provide balance.
    
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    April 27, 2021 3:15pm
- tf78
  
  Rusty – here are few I would like as hosts : Leighton Smith, Larry Williams, Sir Bob Jones, Mike Hosking, Peter Williams, Heather Du Plessis Allan, Chris Lynch, Sean Plunket and Sir John Banks.
  
  Perhaps wealthy benefactors would be interested in putting up the money or those guys could probably afford it off their own bat.
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:55am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Alan Gibbs soon got tired of wasting his money for Lindsay Perigo to lecture three people per day on Radio Liberty.
    New Zealand is not a big enough market for crank radio. Listen to Coast to Coast AM via the web if you have to.
    
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    April 27, 2021 2:24pm
chukar

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300286065/battle-of-the-birds-the-legal-stoush-the-auckland-council-backdown-and-the-175k-bill

The joke of the day?
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April 27, 2021 9:05am
Benedict Yu

A colleague drew this to my attention. I was totally unaware. The Government is progressively developing “industry transformation plans” for a range of industries:

Agritech

Construction

digital technologies

advanced manufacturing

food and beverage

forestry and wood processing.

The plans will “developed in partnership between government, business, workers and Māori.”

“The plans will describe an agreed vision for the future state of the sector and outline the actions required to realise this vision, including investment, innovation and skills development.”

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/business-and-employment/economic-development/industry-policy/

I’m a bit sceptical to be honest.
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April 27, 2021 9:11am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Darn Commies.
  Ardern has no authority to re-arrange NZ so broadly.
  A majority is not a mandate.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:35am
  - DeepBlue
    
    But Jacinda sees a majority as no handbrake.
    
    If she doesn’t do it now, when will Labour get another majority government to implement the ideology?
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:20am
  - Bob
    
    Adern doesn’t need anyone’s authority; SHE is the ‘authority’
    
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    April 27, 2021 2:59pm
- Jack5
  
  Bullshit planning. Like the endless plans of the Soviet Union.
  
  The beneficiaries are consultants and civil servants.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:25am
- Antoine
  
  Love the reference to “workers _and_ Māori”
  
  A.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:52am
  - Keith White
    
    Truth will out…
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:49am
- RockyJ
  
  You gotta be kidding. Unfortunately not. Great, a 5 year plan to combine with a cultural revolution. God help us!
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:59pm
- RockyJ
  
  I had a look at the AgriTech sector plan. 54 pages of close typed bullshit with Phil Twyford as the sponsor.
  Heaven help us. I have worked with government agencies funding private sector improvement programmes. Some do help. This one is so arrogant and detached it ain’t goin anywhere. But a lot of consultants and Maori will get rich.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:30pm
- ISeeRed
  
  So by their definition Maoris aren’t workers. LMAO
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:27pm
Maggie Pie

So tell us again – where did this money go?

http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/more-900-million-support-maori-we-rebuild-together
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April 27, 2021 9:12am
- graham
  
  By all appearances, a good chunk has been sucked up by the action point of “revitalising te reo Maori”.
  
  Think of how much it must cost to train all the TVNZ newsreaders to use the same dozen or so words each night to introduce the news in Maori, how to correctly pronounce “Tamaki Makaurau”, and ongoing training as they introduce new words (“paremata” for parliament seems to be Simon Dallow’s new word that he has been instructed to use this month).
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:31am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Paremata is close to Porirua.
    
    We can’t recognise Maori adopting post 1835 loan words. They signed up for the Treaty and their lingo is not sufficient for the future. So far we have graciously lent them hu and koti but more and we would simply have pidgised, bastardised English.
    The news is becoming unrecognisable with the new weird fragments. Communications are the art of engagement not alienation.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:45pm
  - Unity
    
    I’m totally fed up with the Maori language being interspersed with English. I thought I would eventually get used to it but I’m now more irritated than ever and am seriously considering not watching the News or Current Affairs programmes at all. As for calling our country Aotearoa, I just fume more and more every time I hear it. There are at least 2 Maori channels so surely they can use their language to their hearts content there, but leave the main channels solely in English. Our kids are going to grow up speaking Pidgin English. Grrrr!!
    
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    April 27, 2021 1:18pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You must get very upset when you look at your passport.
      Perhaps you could ask your MP to put forward a private member’s bill to remove Maori as an official language.
      
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      April 27, 2021 2:26pm
    - lifesgood
      
      I haven’t watched NZ news or current affairs for a few years now. Don’t get the newspaper either. I listen to radio bulletins to know what’s going on in the world and watch Sky News. My life is infinitely more pleasant. Give it a try, you won’t regret it.
      
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      April 27, 2021 4:47pm
- Nickc2
  
  Geez Maggie, I just read that and what a bunch of patronizing crap. To me, it’s even worse than the $3Bn slush fund gifted to Shane Jones.
  How long before a top-up is demanded and an extra $300.000.000 for Taniwha Koha?
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:32am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Nobody knows, but I’m pretty sure it’s racist to even ask the question…. //
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:34am
- Rich Prick
  
  I’ll hazard a guess and say Waikato, Auckland, Bay of Plenty and Northland BMW and Mercedes Benz dealerships.
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:42am
  - Nickc2
    
    ….and all pubs in between.
    
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    April 27, 2021 9:44am
- redflagged
  
  Down the drain.
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:00am
- Keith White
  
  To pay off the virus so it settles back to be only as deadly to Maori as to everyone else instead of more deadly because, Virus’ Privilege.
  
  The virus’ brokers are the CCP, no doubt they take a cut of the viral Danegeld.
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:52am
Nickc2

Talking about Peters, does anyone know how his court case is going with regard to his pension rip-off leak to the media? I think it was given three days but I haven’t seen/heard anything.
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April 27, 2021 9:19am
- fernglas
  
  It was heard by the Court of Appeal, who expressed mild astonishment that the argument on appeal bore no resemblance to what was run in the High Court. Instead of seeking damages for breach of privacy against a number of people who might have leaked the details to the press, he is now arguing that there was a breach of privacy by the head of the State Services Commission and the MSD by informing the politicians under the “no surprises” policy. Needless to say, the Court has reserved its decision
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/winston-peters-in-court-to-appeal-superannuation-privacy-breach-decision/IDKOUEXTU24MZXZC4P56YIIQ3Y/
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:46am
  - Nickc2
    
    Thanks for that. Obviously, Leopards (in this case Pussy Cats) don’t change their spots. Appealing something outside the scope of the original case, who would have thought? He’s a Lawyer FFS and as such should know better.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:29pm
    - fernglas
      
      He has a law degree. There’s a difference. His lawyer is a lawyer, though.
      
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      April 27, 2021 1:37pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Everything about Peters should be reserved.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:47pm
Happychappy

It’s only taken a month since National started releasing facts on what motliers were earning and the conditions Families had to put up with before Marama Davidson decided to criticize the party she is a Minister in.
Green Party Minister labels some emergency housing as ‘ inhumane ‘.
Now if it wasn’t for Nationals spokesperson Nicola Willis bring to light some of the happenings at these motels and the millions of dollars that the Government was paying them I very much doubt we would hearing or reading the Green Party Leaders concerns.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/green-party-minister-marama-davidson-labels-some-emergency-housing-as-inhumane.html
Labour doesn’t care about these people as they are more interested in staying in power with the help of the rich and middle class and will lie, hide and discriminate to achieve their goal.
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April 27, 2021 9:19am
- Paulus
  
  Some of the BOP Moteliers are suddenly in the limelight as their Winz rental incomes are released and are being embarrassed as people ask are they Winz motels and people are turning away as a result.
  Rotovegas has been destroyed as far as tourists are concerned as the main street appears to be in an indescribable state but the incomes of them are revealed as incredibly indecent.
  Whanau have been moved from Auckland there as well.
  What can the Government do about these homeless people ? – appears nothing, eh Minister of Housing.
  
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  April 27, 2021 2:10pm
DeepBlue

Has NZ improved its Oxygen concentration capabilities since March 2020?
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April 27, 2021 9:36am
- Ian Boag
  
  “Oxygen concentration” would be using a PSA concentrator. Basically a device that makes enough oxygen out of the air ti cope with one person. There are el cheapo ones that produce 1-6 L/minute by dilution with air. 1 l/min is 90 % O2 and 6 l/min O2 is about 30%. I understand normal breathing is about 5 l/min. I could be wrong of course …
  
  A 5 l/min O2 concentrator (that’s 5 l/min of 90% ) from China is about $1300 – there are lots of them on aliexpress.
  
  I think hospitals run off stuff that comes out of bottles and is plumbed around the place.
  
  Many (over 50) years ago our Engineering class visited NZIG in Christchurch where they did the – make liquid air – separate to liquid O2 and liquid N2 thing. I have no idea if the plant is still there.
  
  The party trick was to drop a lighted cigarette butt into a beaker of liquid O2 – it bubbled madly for a few seconds and everything burned up … Last word in ashtrays 🙂
  
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  December 27, 2020 10:12am
- Keith White
  
  Oxygen concentrator availability and therefore numbers have been hit by the same supply chain / shipping problems with other medical and non-medical devices and hardware.
  
  Oxygen made as an industrial gas is identical to that used in, say, oxyacetylene mixes for metalwork, and the capacity is relatively easily scaled up at point of manufacture; what is not so easily scaled up is having additional cylinders and regulators – and basics such as painting the cylinders so their content is 100% reliably identified. And no, as far as I can find out, the MOH / Govt have taken no steps to check how they could boost gas production, empty cylinder numbers and domestic 2-way shipping (full cylinders out and empty cylinders back) if we suddenly had to.
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:56am
  - Ian Boag
    
    I bought a couple of 5 l/m units about 12 months ago during level 4. I was concerned about how long it might take, but they came in about 3 weeks. YMMV of course
    
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    April 27, 2021 1:36pm
    - Keith White
      
      Yes, last year was definitely easier – dunno about others, but our sources were still shipping (existing i.e. already-manufactured stock). This year, whoa Nelly. Even Inogen has gone from the Amazon website (although spare batteries still available).
      
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      April 27, 2021 3:18pm
Maggie Pie

Did you know the new CEO of Auckland Council is…..

JIM STABBACK

How appropriate. LOL!!
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April 27, 2021 9:38am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Nominative determinism is a thing. I mean, you bake don’t you?
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:46am
plc

Is Bernie Monk going to bring the bodies of the Indonesian submariners back?
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April 27, 2021 9:39am
Captain Mainwaring

Absolutely shocking half page cartoon in this morning’s Hutt News.
Collins and Reti being lampooned for wanting to repeal the health reforms.
Does the current ‘government’ never do anything worthy of being the subject of a cartoon?
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April 27, 2021 9:40am
- plc
  
  No. They announce wonderful things
  
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  April 27, 2021 9:46am
- kowtow
  
  Yesterday’s Ferald one was a shocker , coming so close to Anzac Day.
  
  Uncle Sam leaving Afghanistan dragging a rifle , B52’s ,burning hills and the cenotaph “Best We Forget”
  
  Really ?
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:27am
  - graham
    
    That’s terrible. What moron was responsible for that? Name and shame.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:11am
    - Paulus
      
      $105,000,000 buys everything so keep on moaning.
      He/She who pays the Piper calls the tunes,
      53% of the voters voted for her and will do so again.
      Cindy is just wonnerful.
      
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      April 27, 2021 2:31pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, tell that to all the people now living safely and the hundreds of thousands of girls now able to go to school without fear of being shot for doing so.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:20am
- doggone7
  
  List all the cartoons of all publications of the past six months and we can answer. Putting up today’s Hutt News is not proof that the current ‘government’ never do anything worthy of being the subject of a cartoon.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:39am
  - Prince
    
    The once-fearless profession of Cartoonist, bravely speaking truth to power, is now overrun by craven Labour Party apologists.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:40am
    - Keith White
      
      Emmerson is the absolute worst but has limp competition.
      
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      April 27, 2021 11:58am
    - kowtow
      
      And recall how Tremain was unpersoned by the ODT ,which has the temerity to call itself the independent voice of the south.
      
      It also once had a banner front page headline proclaiming Je Suis , but didn’t dare publish the “offending” cartoon at that time.
      
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      April 27, 2021 1:59pm
Benedict Yu

Just thought you would like to know that the Government is contributing $26 million for this satellite.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/124921014/rocket-lab-to-run-mission-control-for-cowburp-tracking-methane-satellite

“Rocket Lab to run mission control for cow-burp tracking methane satellite “
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April 27, 2021 9:47am
- tf78
  
  Benedict, it would be cheaper to put a tracker into the debating chamber and give the same if not worse results.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:07pm
Maggie Pie

So will it be OK to start calling it the ‘CHINA VIRUS’ again?

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1386320327190450176
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April 27, 2021 9:52am
- SB2
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Tailored made espceailly for the likes of you,
  
  Jack Posobiecrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
  Born John Michael Posobiec III
  December 14, 1985 (age 35)
  FNorristown, Pennsylvania, U.S.
  Alma mater Temple University (BA)
  Occupation
  Political activistnews correspondent
  Employer One America News Network
  Political party Republican
  John Michael Posobiec III (/pəˈsoʊbɪk/ pə-SOH-bik; born December 14, 1985)[1] is an American alt-right[2][3][4] and alt-lite[5] political activist, conspiracy theorist,[6] and Internet troll.[7][8][9][10] Posobiec is best known for his pro-Donald Trump comments on Twitter, as well as using white supremacist and antisemitic symbols and talking points, including the white genocide conspiracy theory.[11][
  etc , etc
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:06am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Do you ever actually READ anything?
    Jack has simply provided a link to the story in the ‘Daily Mail UK’.
    
    FFS!!!
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:19am
  - Local Miller
    
    @SB2, You do understand that Wikipedia is edited by any Tom, Dick or Harry who wants to, and that pretty much anything goes? While some article are well researched and excellent, some are just character assassinations and have no basis in reality.
    Or said another way: “Don’t believe everything you read.”
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:07pm
    - tf78
      
      LM you have to skip to about page 20 to get to any sort of reality from Wikipedia.
      
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      April 27, 2021 12:08pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    And what are you known for but putting down?
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:52pm
- MCos
  
  Also in the Daily Mail
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9510133/Boris-Johnson-said-bodies-pile-high-order-lockdown-sources-claim.html
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:12am
- rangitoto
  
  I’ve always called it the Wuhan lab virus.
  
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  April 27, 2021 10:33am
  - Keith White
    
    WuPox.
    
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    April 27, 2021 11:59am
  - tf78
    
    rangitoto, I’ve always called in the Newflu.
    
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    April 27, 2021 12:09pm
Happychappy

Grant Robertson spouting more bullshit on Newshub this morning.
Government saying more permanent homes are coming as it spends millions on housing people in motels.
As criticism continues to rise up that the Government is running a ‘get rich quick’ scheme for motel owners to house people, Grant Robertson is promising more houses are on the way.
But Robertson couldn’t pinpoint how many news state houses had been built since 2017, putting the number somewhere ‘in the thousands ‘ between 3,000 to 4,000 Robertson said the Government is building at a faster rate than most previous Governments.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/govt-says-more-permanent-homes-coming-spends-millions-housing-people-in-motels
Robertson and Labour forget that the State Housing waiting list has nearly tripled since his Government came to power now at over 22,000 and they float on Building between 3,000 and 4,000 thousand in three and a half years.
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April 27, 2021 10:08am
- kowtow
  
  They want to up the already upped numbers of refugees coming in.
  
  Where they gonna put ’em.
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Start with Jaspinda’s place
    
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    April 27, 2021 4:44pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  The State Housing program was largely a refreshment of retired elderly houses.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:54pm
Fletch

Calvin & Hobbes (pastiche) & climate change.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/6f/70/b9/6f70b96569b5b841cceaedd66fb0429a.jpg
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April 27, 2021 10:31am
- Local Miller
  
  If you are following the so called global warming emergency, this Calvin & Hobbes is really clever. Large areas of the Northern Hemisphere are having the coldest April in many years, with many countries, and large areas in the USA seeing snow falls during April.
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/04/21/record-cold-rare-april-snow/
  Even the Washington Post is stating to admit it’s snowing with record a cold April.
  
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  April 27, 2021 12:13pm
H. Upmann

Something to lighten up the day — https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/26/10-covid-skeptic-memes-to-get-you-through-the-day/
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April 27, 2021 10:47am
RiP NZ

50,000 maskless attendees at six60…a celebration

25 masked train passengers…SCicenCe
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April 27, 2021 10:49am
- Ehlana
  
  And since the masks fog up reading glasses, you have to lower them below your nose to be able to read the AT travel app (or anything else) while you are travelling…
  
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  April 27, 2021 11:16am
Ehlana

Don’t long for “the good old days.”
This is not wise.
Today’s verse of the day from Ecclesiastes 7:10 (NLT), probably written in the 3rd century BC, so about 22-2300 years ago.
Truly a case of the more things change, the more they stay the same.
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April 27, 2021 11:14am
Maggie Pie

The NBR RICH LIST is out….
With 27 new multi – millionaires added this year!
All private motel owners from Rotorua.
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April 27, 2021 11:14am
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/dyJx-kGJ3SM/

Different Strokes For Different Folks.

Bradford Betz from FOX News reports, White people wanting to visit George Floyd Square, the intersection where the 46-year-old Black man died last May, will need to heed special instructions. The intersection of E. 38th Street and Chicago Avenue – where a bystander recorded the now-famous video that showed then-Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin pressing his knee on Floyd’s neck – was converted into a memorial and renamed George Floyd Square shortly after his death.
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April 27, 2021 12:00pm
- Ehlana
  
  The rules are listed here, for those who don’t want to go through the video: https://nz.news.yahoo.com/sign-lists-rules-white-people-george-floyd-memorial-084824235.html
  
  Apparently the solution to inhumanity is not to recognise common humanity.
  
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  April 27, 2021 1:34pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4yXmayL_M

India’s Foreign Minister Jaishankar Sends a Clear Message to Joe Biden on Multilateralism.

By taking on the US on how it has been a mere preacher of multilateralism, India has sent a clear message to the Biden administration. [Not many Indians voting in 2022, I guess.]
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April 27, 2021 12:01pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XslpDRUx2CE

A Tiny Island Nation Resists China’s Threat | China Unscripted.

There’s a tiny island standing up to China and the Chinese Communist Party. No, I’m not talking about Taiwan. I’m talking about Tonga. Tonga is a tiny island nations east of Australia and New Zealand. This is a highlight from the China Unscripted episode What Happens If China Takes Over the World? with Cleo Paskal from Chatham House & Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
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April 27, 2021 12:01pm
Maggie Pie

One of the gals from tennis just txt a joke about an Indian with Covid.

But it’s probably a bit too soon sorry.
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April 27, 2021 12:45pm
- NoCash
  
  What is the purpose of your post?
  
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  April 27, 2021 1:47pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    God spare me.
    It’s to give people a laugh, silly!
    You obviously didn’t get it.
    
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    April 27, 2021 2:47pm
Nickc2

Anyone else have problems with the machine?
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April 27, 2021 12:58pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  No I just up ticked you
  
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  April 27, 2021 2:15pm
Nickc2

Anyone else having problems with the ticking machine?
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April 27, 2021 1:01pm
- kowtow
  
  Nope , every time I see the troll SB2 , I down tick and move on…….
  
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  April 27, 2021 1:54pm
Swifty

Ashley Church calls out our flailing government:

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/39327

“Instead, we now risk returning to a time when monetary policy was used to meet the short-term political needs of the Government of the day and when inflation was a sacrificial lamb on the altar of party populism. We know the potential consequences of Grant Robertson’s frightening game of ‘whack-a-mole’ because we’ve seen it all before in our recent history: higher inflation, much higher interest rates and huge damage to our productive sector.

It would be bad enough if these moves were being taken by a Finance Minister of the calibre of a Ruth Richardson or a Michael Cullen or a Bill English. But in the hands of the incompetents running our current economic sideshow – this stuff should send a shiver down the spine of every objective New Zealander.”
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April 27, 2021 1:14pm
- Nickc2
  
  Baby it’s cold outside…………
  
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  April 27, 2021 1:30pm
  - kowtow
    
    Can’t be , St Jax declared a “climate emergency”.
    
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    April 27, 2021 1:53pm
Swifty

For those who have the time and inclination – can I recommend to you “Come and See”, Elem Klimov’s 1985 anti-war movie portraying events during the Nazi occupation of Belarus.

I saw it not long after it came out and it has stayed with me ever since.

See here for a nice clean copy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJYOg4ORc1w
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April 27, 2021 1:25pm
- skyblue
  
  Seen it a few times. Great movie. On YouTube a lot of Russian WW2 movies with English captions.
  
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  April 27, 2021 2:24pm
Jack5

To the $55 million taxpayers are shelling out to subsidise the print media, add the salary of the journalist appointed to run the scheme.

State organisation New Zealand on Air has appointed Raewyn Rasch as head of journalism to “lead” delivery of the subsidies.

A former general manager Maori and Pacific programmes at TVNZ, more recently Rasch has been on the staff at Massey University. The university web site describes Rasch as communications and marketing manager of the office of the deputy vice-chancellor Maori, with the role involving “increasing the visibility and engagement of Maori at Massey University both internally and externally”.

The NZ on Air appointment announcement describes her as “Ngai Tahu”.

In the announcement, Rasch says:

”“I look forward to working alongside industry on this ground-breaking opportunity to support and strengthen journalism in New Zealand enabling transformational and sustainable change as our media evolves to meet the needs of all communities in Aotearoa.”

Italics added.

The role description indicates the $55 million from taxpayers goes beyond the State keeping the struggling print media afloat. It is about re-moulding the media, and by implication, the country.

Rasch founded the Scarves in Solidarity movement which urged New Zealand women to wear head scarves in sympathy with Muslim women after the mosque massacres.
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April 27, 2021 1:46pm
- Clyde
  
  All part of the big plan of Jacinda. Question? What are people going to do about it?
  
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  April 27, 2021 4:34pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Right turn Clyde.
    Apologies to Clint Eastwood
    
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    April 27, 2021 6:20pm
Maggie Pie

Watched the second episode of ‘VEGAS’ last night (8:30 TV2)

It was the usual round of gratuitous violence perpetrated between Maori & White Power gangs. Scenes of bullwhipping, fighting, headbutting, armed robbery, a pensioner being bashed over the head with a rifle, chainsaw and knife attacks, filthy language, bad hair, fashion crime, car ramming, along with high speed chases thru the town….all this, but NEVER a cop in sight!

TBH, we thought it was just another shitty acted local drama. It wasn’t till the credits rolled at the end where it said….”Filmed on location in Rotorua and made with the help of funding by NZ on Air”, that we actually realised it was in fact a Reality Show 🙁
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April 27, 2021 1:59pm
Nickc2

Final call for passengers boarding FLT XXX for YYY.
Just another day at Miami International Airport.
https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1386411450676039680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1386411450676039680%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.michaelsmithnews.com%2F
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April 27, 2021 2:19pm
kowtow

If the health system in India has collapsed ,how can they do tests on over 300 000 people a day .
And indeed post mortems on the thousands who’ve died to confirm the true cause of death.

While I have no doubt the situation there is appalling , like with the Wuflu figures from the UK and many other countries , I have my doubts about the accuracy of the published figures.
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April 27, 2021 2:35pm
Paulus

Vegas is Part 2 and update of “Once were Warriors”.
So nothing changes really.
Rotorua aka Rotovegas is becoming a real No Go town.
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April 27, 2021 2:41pm
Swifty

Those tough guys the Killer Bees and the KCs demonstrate to the country just what type of staunch, hardarse, mighty gangsters they really are:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/watch-police-hunt-down-polite-bag-snatchers-in-aucklands-mt-eden/55XRGG7YRQHSCRNF7NECW63UMA/

Snatching handbags off women going about their daily lives.

Note the ages too – 23 and 36. Hardly misguided youth.

Weak and an utter disgrace to themselves and their families.
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April 27, 2021 3:40pm
- Swifty
  
  My apologies Mod – I don’t usually use that word but felt it appropriate in the circumstances.
  
  Thanks for the deletion.
  
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  April 27, 2021 4:32pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And sez they’re ‘patched members’ Swifty. LOL!!
  
  Like to see them try snatch my handbag…… I’d clean their oven as quik as look at them.
  
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  April 27, 2021 4:48pm
- Keith White
  
  More ‘warriors’ no doubt…
  
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  April 27, 2021 6:18pm
greybeard

R.I.P Dave Cull
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April 27, 2021 3:51pm
Bluegrass

There are no surprises when you are ruled by a regime which subscribes to the view: Socialism – ideas so good they’re mandatory.
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April 27, 2021 4:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I think this happened in OZ – maybe not. Both Counties are fucked with this shit going on:
The Herald reports that a 93 year old war veteran in a wheelchair was not allowed to take part in the ANZAC parade because he would “slow the parade down” and because of “health and safety”
By God this makes my blood boil! The parade – indeed the whole day – is all about honouring veterans…I don’t give a fuck if the parade had to slow march, walk, or even pause now and again so wheelchair bound veterans could take part. They deserve every honour and every possible consideration. Those still alive are the very last of them.
As for health and fucking safety, no-one was concerned about that when they were sent into battle 75 years ago. The organizers should be shot.
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April 27, 2021 5:04pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  From 2016, before you start bitching
  
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  April 27, 2021 5:04pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I’ve started following you on Twitter as well now SteveO !!
  😀
  
  https://twitter.com/Tahago6/status/1386473972653432834
  
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  April 27, 2021 5:34pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I have no beard, it ain’t me.
    Have some bald hairdo, so says my partner
    
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    April 27, 2021 6:23pm
  - SB2
    
    Appalling newspeak!
    
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    April 27, 2021 6:48pm
info@cruzpro.com

Just received a New Zealand Government pamphlet in the letterbox entitled “Our COVID-19 plan”.

It goes on to say “How we know it’s safe” and reads “Medsafe only grants consent for a vaccine to be used in New Zealand once they are satisfied it’s safe and effective”.

Note they do not actually state that Medsafe has actually granted consent.

The next sentence reads “All COVID-19 vaccines will go through the same safety steps, and must meet the same robust standards”. The operative weasel words are “will go through”, not “did go through”.

At least the words New Zealand were used instead of Atearoa.
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April 27, 2021 5:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Many stupid say they have researched this, and will take the vaccine.
  Stupid are stupid – the don’t even know that THEY are part of the ‘research’ ffs
  
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  April 27, 2021 6:26pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And I see on RT that Israel has just launched an enquiry into the Pfizer Vaccine, after 62 cases of people reported to be showing signs of ‘heart inflammation’ after receiving the first dose.
    
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    April 27, 2021 7:26pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  My wife keeps warning me that if I keep up writing these Kiwibog entries that the police are going to show up on our doorsteps. If I stop showing up here suddenly then you know she was right 🙂
  
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  April 27, 2021 7:18pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This silly commie AOC has no idea of history. They did not teach it at her 8 years in school.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b66gyxnpz2v02fu/AOC%20v%20Candace%20Owens.png?dl=0
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April 27, 2021 5:19pm
- Inandout
  
  Steve, she is a barmaid. You can take a girl out of the pub…..
  
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  April 27, 2021 5:59pm
info@cruzpro.com

Had my flu shot today and asked the person administering the shot if it was true that flu had disappeared in New Zealand. The answer was “yes, only ten cases of the flu reported last year”.

So other than the negative financial, emotional and mental effects, Covid-19 actually saved about 500 people from dying from the flu.

I wonder how the death statistics from suicide and problems resulting from delayed medical attention stack up.

Anyone have the facts and care to share?
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April 27, 2021 5:55pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Um not having the flu vac this year.
  THIS NZ GOVT HAS TOLD SO MANY LIES.
  In a nice way – fuck off . Anaphylactic attack weeks ago and I would like to be Covid vaccinated?
  Fuck off, I could have died
  
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  April 27, 2021 6:32pm
  - SB2
    
    Anaphylactic attack? I understand it turns neurons into jelly
    
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    April 27, 2021 6:51pm
Maggie Pie

I see where Boris Johnsion was lambasted for saying….

“I’d rather see 1000’s of bodies piled up in the street than impose another lockdown”

It was a JOKE….. a f – ing JOKE!

SHEESH.
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April 27, 2021 7:16pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  If it was a joke, he surely would have no trouble admitting that.
  
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  April 27, 2021 7:37pm
- Tom Barker
  
  That Boris – he’s such a card, isn’t he. I’m sure those who have lost relatives to the virus are absolutely wetting themselves at his witty repartee.
  
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  April 27, 2021 7:49pm
mikenmildagain

It’s a full moon. Kiwiblog is a much different forum from the days when the lunar effect would bring out luminaries such as D4J and Ugly Truth in full barmy mode.
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