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Tony Stuart

Michael Morrah from Newshub has yet ANOTHER Covid horror story:

A border worker who left her job just this week says her last test for COVID-19 was six months ago.
She acknowledges not getting tested regularly was wrong and irresponsible, but says neither her employer nor the Government did anything to enforce the rules.

The woman worked as a ground handler, periodically servicing international flights out of Australia.

Given her role, she says she should be swabbed for COVID-19 fortnightly. However, her last test was in November.

“You think that we’re all tested and all clear, but little do people know behind the scenes of what’s really going on,” said the woman, who spoke under the condition of anonymity.

“Personally, myself, I was last tested last year in November. So November 2020,” she told Newshub.

Up until recently, she worked at Auckland Airport for global logistics company Swissport.

Regular COVID-19 testing of border workers became mandatory in September, but she says she’s had just two tests since then.

Newshub put it to the woman that it was her duty as a border worker to be tested.

“Correct, I personally do agree that I’m in the wrong since I have only had two tests but then again, with the company I work for, there’s no enforcement among that,” she explained.

She claimed Swissport does not check if their employees get tested, so she and her colleagues had been skipping them.

“There’s no enforcement anywhere to do it, there’s no obligation, there are no so-called fines that they say are in place.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/04/covid-19-border-worker-who-left-job-this-week-hadn-t-been-tested-for-six-months.html

I’m fast coming to the conclusion that Michael Morrah should be appointed Minister for Covid Response (ex-officio) forthwith. He seems to be the only person in the country who actually knows what’s going on at the Covid frontline!
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December 23, 2020 8:04am
- Albert_Ross
  
  What a great example of the modern definition of responsibility. You’re not responsible for your own action or inaction of you can identify somebody else who could have prevented, or forced, your behaviour.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:09am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    People are unreliable. They should do all sorts of things, but when you’re dealing with a sufficiently large number of people, you can be almost certain some of them won’t do what they are supposed to. The government and the employer need to work together to check this stuff.
    
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    April 23, 2021 8:35am
    - doggone7
      
      Like we need checkers to make sure we put our seat belts on and put our phones in the car boot.
      
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      April 23, 2021 8:51am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        No doggone false analogy.
        
        Economic shutdown via lockdown is the result of covid breaching the border and spreading in the community. It disrupts and threatens everyone according to the Government messaging.
        
        A seatbelt is for your protection alone and not wearing has reprecussions for you and maybe your nearest & dearest.
        
        Government reguirements of the covid testing type require quality assurance and this government has failed to put a qa process in place..
        
        You know this full well.. You’re just running interference for the worst government in living memory
        
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        April 23, 2021 11:39am
      - doggone7
        
        No JimBobJoe.
        
        Not running interference for the government. You know full well that idiots who don’t wear seat belts end up in hospitals impacting on access to those with ‘genuine health needs.’ You know it is the same with smokers.
        
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        April 23, 2021 2:38pm
    - alloytoo
      
      Trust but verify.
      
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      April 23, 2021 8:54am
    - Maxx
      
      People can generally be relied on to take the easiest path, and if you see their are no repercussions for something, then it becomes easy to justify.
      
      And if the company wasn’t checking, that’s because no one at MoH was checking, and if no one at MoH was asking, then nothing was being asked of them. And if no one at MoH was asking, what was the Minister asking, because you can be damned sure if the Minister was asking then you can rely on a bureaucrat covering their arse and passing the buck downstream – they might not have cared if they were being lied to, but they would have asked.
      
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      April 23, 2021 8:56am
    - Ehlana
      
      And it should not be that hard. Border workers are found at the border. Testing teams should be set up there, rotating through the various employers to test people at work.
      Employees who have not been tested will not be able to work (pay is a great motivator); employers who are not enforcing testing will not be able to work (profit is also good). This is supposed to be a health emergency, remember?
      The figures on number of workers and the profile of when they were last tested should be on the Minister’s desk each morning. And could be on a website by morning tea time.
      
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      April 23, 2021 9:01am
      - Bobba Fret
        
        Agreed. Anyone that turns up for work that cannot show they have been tested should be sent home and told they are on leave without pay until they are tested. You would very quickly find a much higher rate of compliance.
        Having said that, it is still the responsibility of the government to have some sort of register as well. They can’t just shift all responsibility to the employee and their employer company.
        
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        April 23, 2021 9:22am
    - amospicton
      
      We don’t rely on people checking their own passports when they enter the country. Ridiculous to have no checks. People will forget, others will actively avoid, but there should be processes in place to ensure they can’t do so.
      
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      April 23, 2021 9:57am
  - Paulus
    
    Nah – it is always somebody else’s fault with this Government !
    
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    April 23, 2021 8:38am
    - RichardX
      
      Nah – it is always somebody else’s fault with this employee !
      
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      April 23, 2021 8:44am
  - jv
    
    Just following the PM’s leadership style, never at fault or responsible herself just shunts every stuff up off onto some other sucker.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:36am
  - I remember when
    
    Love it, everyone should have one.
    A system where you have no responsibility but get all the credit.
    Marvellous!
    
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    April 23, 2021 10:01am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Pfffft – It is the worker’s fault, not us – Cindy, the Great Queen of NZ, ruler 2017-2032.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:06am
- bartybart
  
  Does she have to say myself, personally?
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:11am
- Cinematic
  
  With the constant flow of COVID into NZ and the lack of testing and lack of community transmission clearly this virus struggles in our environment.
  
  I remember Bloomfield’s baffled reaction to the lack of spread in the latest south Auckland outbreak. COVID isn’t any good at doing it’s thing in NZ. We could have lived with this virus.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:12am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Michael Morrah seems to be the only journalist in NZ that is actually willing to question this government.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:18am
- lastmanstanding
  
  IMHO personal responsibility has diminished every decade. I was born in early 1950s. My observation is that each generation takes less responsibility for their actions and seeks to blame someone else. This is the result of a welfare culture where the Government will do more and more for you and you do less and less for yourself.
  Its got to stage where some expect the Government to wipe their arses for them. Pathetic.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:32pm
Happychappy

Plan and Budget both AWOL on child poverty fight.
Who would have thought with our Prime Minister being the Minister on Poverty that amazing balls Jacinda Ardern would have no budget or plan on ‘Child Poverty’ even though they continue to push the lies that child poverty is reducing in all measures from this Government.
So again it sounds and appears like Labour has reverted back to what has happened in their previous terms of Government just keep throwing taxpayer’s money at the problem and it will fix itself.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/124916538/plan-and-budget-both-awol-in-child-poverty-fight
Like all things Labour do is leave it to Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister she will use her Captains call and the problem will magically disappear.
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April 23, 2021 8:00am
- Bill Felt
  
  You don’t need a plan if you just make things up on the hop!
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:21am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    What is this plan of which you speak?
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:10am
- Ruawai
  
  Grants latest $100,000 bank insurance is also without any backup documents so essentially just a concept.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:29am
  - SB2
    
    Wait for the detail on budget day. Meanwhile apply caveat emptor plus do due diligence research.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:48am
  - I remember when
    
    No cost to the depositor?
    
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    April 23, 2021 10:04am
  - Paulus
    
    But of course the Bank Customer will have to pay for this insurance.
    There is no such thing as a free lunch !
    
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    April 23, 2021 10:29am
- CherryCat
  
  The rhetoric is the plan.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:00am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  There is no poverdy in NZ. Have you seen any protests by Sue Bradford’s rent a crowd or Ricardo March marching in Queen street? Move on bro.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:08am
theoldbloke

For all these past 70 years I had hygiene wrong.

When I was a child my mother insisted we wash our hands before we sat down to eat.
As I got older and learned not to pee on my fingers a new mantra became common.

Wash your hands after peeing.

I always wondered why that was. What bad bacteria? was I washing off if I hadnt peed on my fingers?

Then Covid came along. It has all become clear.
You need to wash your hands BEFORE you pee, to stop any possible Virus contamination.

What the hell, I don’t wash any which way unless my hands are dirty prepee or I pee on my fingers.

Thanks Covid.
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April 23, 2021 8:03am
- Swifty
  
  Old Etonian [after seeing Churchill leave the bathroom without washing his hands]:
  
  “At Eton, they taught us to wash our hands after using the toilet.”
  
  Churchill:
  
  “At Harrow, they taught us not to piss on our hands.”
  
  Heh.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:23am
  - Happychappy
    
    Didn’t the Generations before us tell you to piss on your hand to help heal blisters and get rid of any warts that appeared.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:12am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    I remember this old Seinfield clip where a chef goes to the toilet, and doesn’t wash his hands.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27Yzpz7cMg
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:28am
- kowtow
  
  Former , and long lived Indian PM drank his.
  
  ‘Desai, a longtime practitioner of ‘urine therapy’, spoke in 1978 to Dan Rather on 60 Minutes about the benefits of drinking urine. The prime minister stated that urine therapy was the perfect medical solution for the millions of Indians who cannot afford medical treatment.[33][34][35] He also attributed his longevity to drinking urine – which he called “the water of life”‘
  
  wiki
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:49am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  To pee or not to pee is the question.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:15am
- SB2
  
  Not really. All is asked of you is take to take due care in your hygiene including toilet habits. Common sense actually.
  
  Covid unlike the ordinary flu is highly infectious and spreads easily from person to person.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:53am
  - rockape
    
    Well maybe you get someone else to hold your dick while peeing but I dont!
    
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    April 23, 2021 12:17pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Not a very kind way to treat businesses operating out of Hotels that became Quarantine Quarters.

What did the authorities think was going to happen to the Restaurant trade… or didn’t they think?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/441041/restaurateurs-based-at-miq-hotel-going-to-court-after-business-just-died
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April 23, 2021 8:03am
- Ehlana
  
  The last part Maggy. They didn’t think.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:03am
- SB2
  
  MW, those hotel restaurants are not only open for Hotel users but also most usually to the general public.
  
  Would be no different under National or ACT.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:56am
- hookerphil
  
  ” The government were making it up as they went along ” True, on everything they have done.
  
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  April 23, 2021 1:34pm
- Im Right
  
  Maggy, the left still see business owners as ‘exploiters’!
  FFS TDB today has a guest post from Matt McCarten and his union tour bus and naming and shaming bad business owners…I thought, wait a minute this is the guy that didnt pay his staff’s kiwisaver payments and tax and was personally prosecuted by IRD with a big fine….yes a man from the left who actually ran a company and failed so miserably he was prosecuted by IRD for exploiting his workers tax payments is now on a bloody union bus touring NZ looking to ‘expose’ bad employers!
  If it wasnt actually fact, no one would believe it!
  PS
  I did leave a comment on TDB thread mentioning this fact, and not published, seems Mr Bradburys free speech advocacy is a crock.
  
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  April 23, 2021 4:31pm
Thought Criminal

Prediction. Labour won’t pass their draconian, authoritarian, hate speech law.

Time and time again jacinda has shown herself to be a weak leader and she will back away from this when she realises how unpopular it will be.
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April 23, 2021 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Doesn’t really matter..
  
  The aim has been achieved.
  
  Businesses and Institutions and Politicians know they can keep their underlings in order by just hinting that a vocal member can be silenced/cancelled for voicing an unpopular view.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:13am
  - SB2
    
    MW, can you give examples of this actually occurring?
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:57am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Sheeple just don’t care about this law as majority of them don’t understand. Cindy will score an easy victory here folks!
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:16am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    She’s scored an own goal with Ihumatao.
    The Auditors will return.
    
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    April 23, 2021 1:53pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

What India is now facing is horrifying!
A new ‘double mutant’ variant of COVID-19 virus found in India is a cause of growing concern worldwide. It is much more aggressive and much more infectious and predominately affecting those in their 20’s and 30’s!!

https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1384935382890987521
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April 23, 2021 8:09am
- kowtow
  
  Is it as dangerous as all the other variants that after the fear mongering achieved its aims were declared to be not so dangerous .
  
  We’re being played by Big Govt and Big Media .
  
  ( Yes Wuflu kills , but it doesn’t kill the healthy )
  
  We must stay locked up !
  
  Meanwhile our leaders are discussing smashing our economies , making power really expensive and giving the Chinese and Russians a leg up.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:26am
  - SB2
    
    kowtow, utter rot!
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:59am
  - MCos
    
    “it doesn’t kill the healthy“
    
    Never heard of a healthy person dying of a decease.
    
    I’m a healthy person. Hearts fine. Respiratory system’s fine etc.
    Are you guaranteeing I’m completely 100% impervious to a fatal dose of COVID-19?
    
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    April 23, 2021 11:16am
    - kowtow
      
      no one would be impervious to a fatal dose of anything…….
      
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      April 23, 2021 12:53pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Has Bill gates visited there recently or do we now have cyber Covid ?
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:45am
Kiwi_in_Paris

Yeah, and the BBC reported that a UK hospital was full of children with Covid.

Turns out there were two kids with it, and it had to be retracted.

Trust thy mainstream media thoust will not.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/covid-wards-full-of-children-as-uk-pandemic-explodes-053207113.html
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April 23, 2021 8:17am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Yes, over 100 UK cases of the India variant reported.
  All linked to international travel.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:43am
- SB2
  
  Kiwi in Paris, but you would faithfully and unquestionly trust , Gateway Pundit , Breitbart, Ticker Carlson etc
  
  Yes?
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:02am
Maggy Wassilieff

Holy Moly..
How do you manage to spend $56Million running a hearing on Abuse in Care?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/441051/royal-commission-into-abuse-in-care-blows-56m-budget
Must be some damn fine lunches at the hearings.
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April 23, 2021 8:20am
- Tall Man
  
  “Expenses” for witnesses ………..
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:27am
  - sooty
    
    What, did they send them on holiday?
    
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    April 23, 2021 12:43pm
- plc
  
  Well the Executive Director for the Inquiry is an ex-Dept of Internal Affairs Deputy Chief Executive who had an easel set up in his office so he could paint when he had the muse.
  
  So no, I can’t think of any reason why the costs may have blown out 🙁
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:31am
- Ruawai
  
  Crayfish and Moet!!!
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:31am
- rockape
  
  Thar 56 million was the budget! If you look at the article they spent 67 million and more to come.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:41am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    This is why my blood boils when Robber(tson) increased the tax on income over 180K. That extra tax money will be spent on cost blow outs like this.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:18am
- Nickc2
  
  A feeding frenzy for lawyers!
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:55am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Labour haven’t quite got the hang of this budgeting / math thing yet. Remember Pike River budget was around $21 million, nek minnit, $52 million spent, and have we now reached the end? Or is there more to be spent.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:37am
- Maxx
  
  It also begs the question, if a new agency is being setup, would it not make sense to have early oversight of spending being conducted by Treasury and say six monthly reviews by the OAG?
  
  I can understand that there are unknowns when you are starting fresh, but there is plenty of expertise available.
  
  On a related note, I am sure that now we are into the final quarter of the FY for Government departments, I am sure there is a big spend up underway.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:53am
Maggy Wassilieff

A long read on the start of Climate Alarmism:

Climate alarmism started 33 years ago at the 1988 Democratic Party Senate hearings on global warming with these hearings clearly representing nothing but contrived speculation, conjecture, exaggeration, distortion, and deception in making scientifically unsupported claims in addressing climate issues.

The findings and conclusions of the 1988 Democratic Party Global Warming hearing have been proven WRONG.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/22/history-confirms-democrats-1988-senate-global-warming-hearing-got-everything-wrong-from-start-to-finish/
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April 23, 2021 8:26am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Do people still take Anthony Watts seriously?
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:52am
- alloytoo
  
  Even if we accept that climate change is manmade, the proposed response is wrong.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:05am
- SB2
  
  MW, unlike Anthony Watts of” watts up with that ” a real cliamte scientist thinks very differently,
  
  Ex-Nasa scientist: 30 years on, the world is failing ‘miserably’ to address climate change
  
  Thirty years after a former Nasa scientist sounded the alarm for the general public about climate change and human activity, the expert issued a fresh warning that the world is failing “miserably” to deal with the worsening dangers.
  
  While Donald Trump and many conservatives like to argue that climate change is a hoax, James Hansen, the 77-year-old former Nasa climate scientist, said in an interview at his home in New York that the relevant hoax today is perpetrated by those leaders claiming to be addressing the problem.
  
  James Hansen, who gave a climate warning in 1988 Senate testimony, says real hoax is by leaders claiming to take action..”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/19/james-hansen-nasa-scientist-climate-change-warning
  
  BTW do you and others like Trump and most likely Watts believe climate change is a hoax?
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:13am
Ruawai

I think Jacinda Ardern is becoming unhinged. She is calling for other countries to follow her climate example, I think she sees herself as a martyr.
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April 23, 2021 8:27am
- crikey
  
  Jacinda Ardern, our own Greta Thunberg. What more do we need?
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:57am
- rockape
  
  Hm martyrdom now there’s a thought.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:57am
- Nickc2
  
  The word IDIOT springs to mind.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:57am
- kowtow
  
  Not just her.
  Scomo has announced new spending of hundreds of millions on the scam , just so he can show off on the Zoom conference . Bojo is out to destroy the UK econmy ( probably cos his latest bit of stuff ) Etc
  
  Utter madness.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:03am
- Ehlana
  
  What is her example exactly? Does she now cycle to work? Take a public bus to Wellington? If we don’t know, how can we follow?
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:05am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Won’t be on a bus in Wellie today will she!
    
    ‘No strikes under my watch’
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:14am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    She has stopped New Zealand from drowning in sea because of her bold climate actions – James Green Frog Shaw.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:19am
  - I remember when
    
    She waits for her ministerial EV to arrive.
    And waits and waits and…
    Finally.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:26am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    To be fair to Che Guevara, he utterly detested Chardonnay socialists with an absolute passion!
    
    There would be no one at all in our current govt (including the Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand (yes, I’m looking at you Marama, Ricardo, Golriz & Chloe)) who would come anywhere near his expectations of them…
    
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    April 23, 2021 10:56am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  Import record amounts of coal and not go anywhere near proposed targets, the rest of the world is also doing this, especially her friends in China. The difference is China haven’t promised to do anything for decades, by then the rest of the world will look like collapsing if they follow the Biden line.
  She really is just all piss and wind.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:58am
  - Nickc2
    
    Go easy on the wind!
    
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    April 23, 2021 11:10am
- Fletch
  
  The radio news reported on a virtual meeting between Biden and Jacinda pushing the climate garbage. I’m sick of hearing it, TBH.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:44am
Maggie Pie

My partner was just saying Bloomberg reporting Pres Biden is about to impose a fine on people for being successful.
Intends to impose a CGT as high as 43% on the ‘wealthy’.
.The DOW dropped 300 on the news.
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April 23, 2021 8:31am
- kowtow
  
  Fox had great footage of the Old Stumble Bum in Congress making very strident law and order statements back in the day , wow what a change when it comes to blowing with the times.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:36am
  - Paulus
    
    I understand yesterday that someone in the White House was overheard the words “Co President” but that has now been denied.
    
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    April 23, 2021 1:56pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, he will sign anything put in front of him and with this latest move against his supporters he will need to go. Wall St is the establishment and also what some call ‘the swamp’. They made Biden and they will replace Biden.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:42am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Let him do it. America deserves Biden.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:19am
- SB2
  
  MP so you think Biden’s propaosal to fund about $1 trillion in childcare, universal pre-kindergarten education and paid leave for workers etc is demonstrably unfair?
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:18am
Justitia

Why did New Zealand fail to sign the Joint Statement of 30 March this year issued by the Four Eyes and ten other countries, including Japan, Norway and South Korea, on the seriously compromised WHO investigation into the origins of COVID 19? That statement after all only pointed out the glaringly obvious. WHO’s investigation was “significantly delayed and not given access to original data and samples”, among other things.

New Zealand’s risible response was officials hadn’t had time to study the WHO report! (And the dog ate their homework too.)

The Joint Statement went on to call for an “expert and independent evaluation of the origins of COVID 19”, not least to allow for countries to better prepare against future pandemics. Surely this is the very least that WHO and China owe the world by way of reparations?

As with many mysteries, the answer to New Zealand’s failure to stand with its friends may be “cherchez la femme”. Our vainglorious Prime Minister is after all acutely conscious of the need to continually tend to her international brand. And when you harbour aspirations to a high UN office, you must be very aware of the need not to piss off the Chinese who wield a veto. And where do New Zealand’s interests fit in? Perhaps as a satrapy of the UN.
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April 23, 2021 8:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  MFAT slipped out a response on April 16th
  
  https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/media-and-resources/new-zealand-statement-on-who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-covid-19/
  
  Looks like most of the media have managed to keep shtum about this…
  One article on Newsroom site..
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nz-releases-belated-criticism-of-who-covid-report
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:57am
  - Justitia
    
    Yes Maggy, belated, unattributed, not serious…job done. MFAT attempts to tidy up but a bad smell still hangs in the air ….cowardice.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:30am
    - Nickc2
      
      Don’t stop your car in Ngaruawahia Justitia, you will become meals on wheels at the Foreign Minister’s Marae.
      
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      April 23, 2021 12:30pm
  - SB2
    
    MW, and another one here and much.much earlier,
    
    “Covid 19 coronavirus: China did ‘little’ to investigate virus origin, leaked WHO report claims”
    
    24 Feb, 2021 03:20 PM
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-china-did-little-to-investigate-virus-origin-leaked-who-report-claims/EIUQPU6BWJ2BOXMTDVB57JNSXU/
    
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    April 23, 2021 10:28am
- Maxx
  
  Mahuta is out of her depth – to be fair, she’d be out of her depth in a paddling pool
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:59am
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder who will be funding this claim.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018792749/deportees-to-take-class-action-against-australian-government
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April 23, 2021 8:34am
- RW Capitalist
  
  and another nail in the coffin of CER.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:00am
- Nickc2
  
  The gangs have plenty of money. If they need more, they will just increase the price of drugs. No doubt they have some expensive Lawyers on tap. Then again, perhaps their pet Lawyers will go pro bono on this one for obvious reasons.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:08am
- JerJer
  
  Probably no one. I hope they continue though. It will prove a few things though being:
  
  a) They can find money if they need it so there are no need for benefits.
  
  b) There is no way they they will succeed. The Australian government is within it’s legal right to rid their nation of foreign criminals. Seems it’s very successful and the public over there appreciate it. This will be laughed out of court (if it ever gets there).
  
  c) No chance for these guys, but sure, waste your money.
  
  However, there is a good chance it will do enough to annoy the Australians into tightening the screws on us in terms of travel and visas even more.
  
  Sad. They should put their energies into accepting their punishment for their criminal behaviour, get a job and start to try and improve their lives.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:31am
- Hollyfield
  
  It’d be worth donating to, if it meant the gangs went back to Aussie.
  
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  April 23, 2021 6:59pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://babylonbee.com/news/after-chauvin-verdict-blm-volunteers-to-rebuild-minneapolis-return-all-looted-items?
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April 23, 2021 8:34am
- Nickc2
  
  In ya dreams!
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:10am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Socialist Democrats.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/while-leftist-squad-calls-to-defund-police-they-spend-big-bucks-on-their-own-security/?
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April 23, 2021 8:36am
- alloytoo
  
  Defunding the police almost always hurts the poorest and most vulnerable people in society.
  
  The wealthy and increasingly the middle class can afford high walls and private security.
  
  They always could.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:01am
Tauhei Notts

This is not politics but I thought I would share the story with you all.
In 1973 when I was studying in Wellington I sometimes drove my Volkswagen 1500 cc beetle to my parents’ farm at Matamata. The trip took 5 hours 50 minutes, from a car park on The Terrace.
I repeated the trip two days ago and it took exactly 6 hours. Now I have a Mitsubishi AXS XLS with electric windows, air conditioning, automatic transmission, wider tyres, crash bags, a USB player etc.
Although there have been huge improvements in the roads over the past 48 years, the volume of traffic has slowed us down.
The Vw would go from Foxton to Sanson at 70 mph, (112kph) but the prevalence of traffic cops in 2021 restricted me to 102kph.
The Otaki River bridge was an hour from The Terrace; now it is 52 minutes. That was before Wellington’s good motorway system was built.
Transmission Gully will make that better. Places like Otaki, Levin, Bulls and Taihape can no longer be zipped through quickly. In 1973 I went the western side of Lake Taupo as the extensive road works around Earthquake Gully, south of Waitahanui, were too slow. Road maintenance work also slowed me.
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April 23, 2021 8:36am
- Nickc2
  
  There were no Road Cones in 1973.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sometimes they are there because with so many there is no other place to store them
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:35pm
    - Nickc2
      
      You’re not wrong Steve. I think the whole country’s supply of cones is stored on the North Shore.
      
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      April 23, 2021 2:42pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Albany highway and Rosedale Rd. 5 cone trucks, one digger, and 8 guys breast feeding shovels, all just to replace 30M of footpath
        
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        April 24, 2021 8:25am
- virtualmark
  
  A few random observations, from similar trips done recently.
  
  * There are only 2 sets of traffic lights between the Wellington city motorway and Auckland motorway … both in Levin. That’s quite remarkable.
  
  * While the roads are far superior to what they were 30 years ago the traffic is much heavier – so the impact of slow drivers & trucks is worse because they form longer queues behind them.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:42am
  - Paulus
    
    Assuming you go on SH1 then try and avoid the Taupo lights – by the great pay toilets.
    OK via Western Lake road though.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:00pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Western access is the only way to go
      
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      April 23, 2021 2:36pm
- Sacha
  
  When I moved to Turangi in 2001 I could drive non-stop to Wellington in just over 3.5 hours.
  In 2015 it was well over 4 depending on the day/time.
  Nothing to do with the model of car, all to do with the amount of traffic. If I happened to strike the wrong time, it was impossible to use the long passing lanes.
  And the number of reflective and blindingly glaring ‘safety’ signs at every corner on the Desert Rd, made the night trip a nightmare.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:57am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    20 years I could go to a bach in the coromandel from auckland for the weekend in about 3 hours on a Friday. Now it is frequently 4+. Mostly trying to get to the Bombays.
    
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    April 23, 2021 12:25pm
    - doggone7
      
      What is the answer to all the stories about travelling now being slower?
      
      Four or six lane highways everywhere? Who wants to pay for those? Everyone wants the roads, no-one wants to pay, no-one wants road works.
      
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      April 23, 2021 2:30pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Motorway Whangarei to Tauranga is needed, and 3 lanes out to growing Auckland exurbs from Orewa to Bombais are also needed.
        
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        April 23, 2021 6:44pm
mikenmildagain

Happy St George’s Day!
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April 23, 2021 8:40am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The dragon defers . . .
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:17am
- MCos
  
  Seem to have struck a chord at last!
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:29am
- rangitoto
  
  What about the poor dragon.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:58am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  wasn’t he the “dragon” slayer?
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:59am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Allegedly.
    
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    April 23, 2021 1:10pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Great mike – lots of “Georges” in this country so maybe the dragon could be slayed over time?
      
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      April 23, 2021 2:44pm
  - oldfella
    
    Dragon slayer. Hmm. Like some kind of sword-wielding taniwha?
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:39pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      You read between the lines – I think !
      
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      April 23, 2021 3:39pm
graham

Heard on the radio this morning that Auckland Council and Watercare want to “make Auckland more resiliant to the impacts of drought and climate change”.

Listened as they burbled on about reducing Aucklander’s water usage by 20% over the next 30 years.

Thought back to January/February last year, when it was perfectly obvious that rainfall was way, way down, and these morons sat on their hands instead of asking people to reduce water usage then. And the council continued watering their parks, arguing that it would cost them money if they let the turf dry out.

Wondered how they managed to turn this around so that THEIR inability to manage the existing water properly, and THEIR reluctance to build more dams, suddenly becomes OUR problem.

Resisted the urge to yell at the radio.

Instead, left the shower on for an extra 10 minutes, just to spite them.
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April 23, 2021 8:43am
- Nickc2
  
  What happened to all that additional water we were given approval to take from the Waikato River?
  I have just paid my Water Bill today and their Estimated usage as usual is way over the top of any Actuals so far this year. They don’t miss a trick. Thieving C_s.
  
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  April 23, 2021 11:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Must be a leftie estimator. Now if they set the estimate low and you got charged more they would still be arseholes.
    Ever noticed that these people would not last 5 minutes in the private sector?
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:43pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  ~1% of Waikato flow, taken a few km from mouth of Waikato cheaply fixes all Auckland’s supply problems. All the blame rests on politicians giving license to various grasping hands.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:29pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Taniwha to appease also.
    Good idea though, but that hurdle would likely kill it without koha-nui.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:19pm
kowtow

Very interesting but tragic case of a father locked up after going lala after his daughter killed in a traffic accident while the killer gets off scot free.

‘Cummings had been behind bars since the March 30 incident and his family continued to voice concerns about his psychological state.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/alleged-attacker-named
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April 23, 2021 8:45am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Thats sick. So you can kill someone through your bad actions and there are no consequences. Some might say that they hope the Judge has someone near to them experience the same fate but of course i could not possibly comment.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:45pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  The courts and the police will come down hard every time – but only on the otherwise law abiding individuals who threaten their authority.
  If it was a generally lawless collective (more so if largely comprised of an ethnic minority) then they won’t bother showing up.
  Try putting up a shed too close to your fenceline, and the authorities will be all over you.
  But if you are Mongrel Mob shutting down a public street – then Boys will be Boys.
  
  The classic Simpsons was always good for truisms and satire:
  Marge : “I thought you said the law was powerless!”
  Chief Wiggum : “Powerless to HELP you, not punish you.
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:25pm
RiP NZ

Aspiration replaced with victimhood
Personal responsibility replaced with blame
Resilience with weakness of mind and body

I’ve realised everything is temporary. As Anzac day approaches the ideals and the character of those men and woman are all but lost. There is no continuity between generations – no momentum fwd to build upon what they achieved. Sadly, all they did was for their time alone. Slowly, society has regressed and we no longer value those characteristics which enabled the peace and security we have enjoyed.

Degenerates are held up and worshipped as gods – and not only is this is acceptable….it’s mainstream. It is the standard now.

My son will march with his great grandads medals on Sunday. I’ll shed a tear alright.
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April 23, 2021 8:48am
- alphabeatrium
  
  That’s the spirit! /sarc
  You have a son. You have a responsibility towards him. He can be prepared to carry that torch. The lesbians of south Wellington do not have children; their time will pass.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:24pm
Maggie Pie

And locked-out Wellington bus drivers receiving support from many different quarters…

https://twitter.com/erst_while/status/1385321679237251072
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April 23, 2021 8:49am
- Tarquin North
  
  That link took me back to Eastern Europe in the seventies, or Labour head office – not sure which one.
  
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  April 23, 2021 8:58am
- I remember when
  
  Bus Drivers Lives matter.
  Timetables and Customers perhaps not quite so much.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:18am
- Nickc2
  
  Maori Health Agency?
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:18am
  - doublehappy
    
    They could slip a few thousand $ to the Party, while they were at it. There is no penalty for that.
    
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    April 23, 2021 12:31pm
- SB2
  
  MP, a real chance for you you to hear both sides of the dispute especially the bus drivers,
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018792773/bus-chaos-frustrating-wellington-regional-council
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:32am
RW Capitalist

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300283956/government-looks-to-phase-out-fuel-taxes-road-user-charges-under-transport-review
One option being considered is to replace the taxes with a GPS-based system on cars, which could effectively toll drivers for how often they used the road. A National Party discussion document from before the last election floated a similar idea although it was not formal policy.
a few points points
1. I don’t want this or any stasi govt. tracking my every move.
2. This will mean they can put up the tax at a single key stroke of a lap top.
3. What punishment will they minister for switching off the GPS or removing it and leaving in your garage for that long weekend getaway?
4. So now they are copying rejected National Party suggestions (not even policy)?
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April 23, 2021 8:53am
- virtualmark
  
  A GPS-based system sounds like an official’s idea, not a politician’s.
  
  Any government that mandates a GPS-based system for road taxes will lose the next election. Most politicians are dumb, but they are smart enough to know how to not lose an election.
  
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  April 23, 2021 3:34pm
colina

A must read Our Dear Leader
https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/04/dear-comrade-jacinda/
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April 23, 2021 8:53am
Paulus

Listening to Grant Robertson this morning explaining how whilst the Reserve Bank continues to remain independent from Government he is now going to approve what they do.
Pillock !
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April 23, 2021 8:53am
- simoneshh
  
  He is of the same government that is trying to dumb down Economics, Accounting and Business Studies in schools. No more economic decisions, just kind choices!
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:30pm
Yvette

Jacinda Ardern calls on other countries to follow New Zealand’s lead at US climate change summit – Newshub, 1 hour ago

However – NZ may be excluded from climate leaders summit
New Zealand’s attendance at a summit of high-profile, high-ambition global leaders on climate change is in doubt.
The Sprint to Glasgow meeting is scheduled for December 12, the five-year anniversary of the signing of the Paris Agreement. Hosted by the United Kingdom, it is intended to gather together the countries most intent on tackling climate change in the lead-up to the COP26 climate summit in Glasgow next year.
While the final list of attendees has yet to be determined, Newsroom understands New Zealand may be excluded over concerns it is not doing enough to reduce emissions.

Last week, British High Commissioner to New Zealand Laura Clarke told a climate change conference that she was concerned about a credibility gap between New Zealand’s rhetoric and action.
“There is also a gap – if you’ll forgive me for saying it, as a friend, and someone who has married one of your own – between ambition and reality,” she said. [1]

“… a credibility gap between New Zealand’s rhetoric and action” – so, what has been evident here for sometime, is now becoming apparent to those overseas.

Ardern didn’t seem to mention the trees this time, whereas at the big climate summit in New York she stated “We are going to plant One Billion Trees, and 150 million are already in the ground”.
I guess she is now avoiding this because the MPI website says The One Billion Trees Fund has directly funded 46,534,000 trees, as of 9 April 2021 [2], which is sort of not quite one third of what Ardern claimed in New York
Kind of proves the credibility gap that British High Commissioner to New Zealand Laura Clarke points out.

[1] https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nz-may-be-excluded-from-climate-leaders-summit
[2] https://www.mpi.govt.nz/forestry/funding-tree-planting-research/one-billion-trees-programme/progress-towards-planting-one-billion-trees/tracking-planting-for-the-one-billion-trees-programme/
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April 23, 2021 8:54am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  labour propagandists were this week trying to headline that 250 million trees have been planted since the scheme began – coopting private commercial plantings to try and make themselves look less incompetent.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:20pm
  - Yvette
    
    UrbanNeocolonist
    MPI says the number of trees planted since 2018 to end of 2020 is 258 million but 212 million are commercial Forestry, which with a 95% cutting rate (Cabinet Paper establishing the scheme), means they plant 95 seedlings for every 100 mature trees they whack down elsewhere in their forests. To count Forestry trees in with MPI trees is a type if arbourcide, because they chop down more than they replant and so adding in their figures should in fact add in a negative number.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:54pm
lastmanstanding

The Chairman of the Ceantral Planning Committee was pleased. The fool Biden and the other Western fools were writing their own economic suicide note. Whilst the Motherland continues to build coal fired power stations using coal imported from thes idiots they were set on wrecking their economies.
We have no intention to honour the emissions targest we have agreed with these fools yet we produce 30% of the worlds emissions. Why should we.
Our goal is world economic domination and control. These fools send us the means to produce the energy to produce the goods we then sell back to them.
The idiot Ardern is even a bigger fool. Along with her tattooed Foreign Minister scared witless to criticse the Motherland and sucking up to us.
How the President laughed at the tattoed ones statements on Five Eyes. That is Four Eyes and a Squint as its known.
The Committee will continue to drive a wedge between these fools Ardern is the model. Her past allegents were a sign of how we could manipulate her.
The fools are making our job so much easier than we expected.
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April 23, 2021 9:05am
- mikenmildagain
  
  What committee is this that you are involved with?
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:30am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Your thick as pig shit if you cant work it out. Not surprising really. Oh I have just committed Hate Speech.
    
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    April 23, 2021 1:11pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Sorry buddy, but the Google couldn’t tell me which ceantral (sic) planning committee you might be referring to. Is it part of your rotary club or something?
      
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      April 23, 2021 1:42pm
Maggie Pie

TV ONE
Ardern warned there could be a further extension of the ban on flights beyond April 28 if there was still a clear and present risk…..

https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1385286981945499656

We’ll hear at noon today – our moneys on the extension.
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April 23, 2021 9:13am
- kowtow
  
  You can bet your last pompadom it’ll be extended.
  Plenty of cover from the fear mongering Media pardy, not to mention all the Little new Zealanders who are still in bunker mode.
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:37am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  When the authorities can’t work out who should clean a plane and how, the extension would be wise.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:08am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Of course we have to wait til noon. She hasn’t had an excuse for an “all stations interrupt” presser for a while and she needs to update the nation on the “Child Princess’s Adulation Tour Schedule”.
  
  Probably item #1.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:54am
  - MCos
    
    Still got some learning to do.
    Didn’t happen that way at all.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:09pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Be patient – it’s called moderation delay on both parts by the looks. Least I can admit a booboo?
      
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      April 23, 2021 3:13pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Bugger – messed that up! Should have read her schedule instead of listening to msm?
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:29pm
I remember when

Follow my lead, New Zealand’s lead.
Holy Moses. Mana of the indigenous citizens.
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April 23, 2021 9:13am
I remember when

A resource consent has been lodged for a new 850-metre-long downhill zipline by Hanmer Springs Thermal Pools and Spa complex.
Riders will be harnessed on a suspended seat attached to a trolley.
The trolley can be set to different speeds and will navigate seven corners as it descends Conical Hill.
The start of the ride is reached by a zig-zag path which takes 35 minutes to walk. There is no transport option.
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April 23, 2021 9:48am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Just spoke with Bill Withers. I told him Ain’t No Sunshine is bad grammar.
He said “I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know”
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April 23, 2021 9:59am
- MCos
  
  Ain’t no Bill Withers ‘cos he’s gone
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:56am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    81, a good innings
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:23pm
- Kiwi Dave
  
  For an astoundingly moving cover of that song, markedly superior to the original IMO, listen to the version by Canen on YouTube.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:21pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Nice voice
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:53pm
Greg Ettridge

One of my sons is going down the path of a second passport and will include me in the deal.
He thinks dual passport holders are going to be the new free elite.
He is most probably correct in his assumptions.
This will bubble on as long as the common flu does.
The experimental jabs will be forever but unlike the flu jab they will be made mandatory.
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April 23, 2021 10:04am
- kowtow
  
  I see the army has made it mandatory . Funny how the gubmint , on the one hand a pusher of ‘uman rights always exempts itself from the same restrictions it places on others.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/get-jab-or-be-sacked-defence-force-staff-told
  
  They are very happy to tell good people there are consequences for refusing a vaccine , and yet when criminals bash their way through our once safe society the courts /parole boards don’t hold them accountable or deliver “consequences”.
  
  Utter madness.
  
  A world turned on its head.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:45am
  - Paulus
    
    My Son in Law in Army has always had to be fully up with injections (for everything) and has been over 25 year in…
    Goes with the club rules – don’t like rules don’t join.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:05pm
Greg Ettridge

Can someone tell me, is it true they are cycling all PCR tests at 45 cycles in New Zealand?
Anything above 35 is just a hopeless fishing expedition to root out false positives.
I believe 45 cycles is the true setting in NZ.
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April 23, 2021 10:11am
- fernglas
  
  It says so on the MoH website
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:55am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If being shot is” a risk Police Officers take” with the job, then isn’t being shot a risk criminals take when breaking the Law?
Just saying.
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April 23, 2021 10:19am
- MCos
  
  Depends which country & what law.
  The chances of either police or criminal getting shot in NZ is very low.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:48am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The crims shoot each other – why would the Police stop that?
    Long may it continue
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:24pm
- Ehlana
  
  You’d think so. It is true that the penalty for crime is not extra-judicial death, but it is equally true that no one is employed to die.
  If employees are dying on the job, employers (in this case, the taxpayers and their representatives) should be held accountable. That’s how it works for private industry.
  
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  April 23, 2021 11:59am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Chynaa threatens Australia after ‘Scotty from Marketing’ cancels Belt & Road Initiative…..

“China could not be angrier. But they have got themselves into a bit of a problem. There is not much they can do to Australia any more”

– Perth USAsia trade expert Jeffrey Wilson.
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April 23, 2021 10:20am
- SB2
  
  Except for the fact that Australia is China’s main export destination.
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:35am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    SB2, you have that the wrong way around.
    
    Chinese exports to the USA, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, etc. outstrip Australia by several fold.
    
    That is the problem with rapid-fire, half thought out, drive-by posts.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:34pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    1% of China’s exports go to Australia.
    
    China’s main export destinations are:
    USA
    Hongkong
    japan
    South Korea
    
    https://howmuch.net/articles/chinas-exports-imports-trade-balance
    
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    April 23, 2021 3:12pm
- rockape
  
  Glad to see the UK backing them with a side dish of criticism of NZ. Question for Jacinda . Who you gonna call when China parks a nuclear carrier in NZ waters?
  
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  April 23, 2021 10:49am
- Nickc2
  
  The Belt & Road Initiative was only gifting the State of Victoria to the Chinese. Signed up by Comrade Dan the Union’s Man. Yes, Aust’s PM tore the agreement up and rightly so IMO.
  There is still the Port of Darwin leased to the Chinese for 99 years. This was done by another Labor bunch, the Northern Territories Govt. I’m waiting to see what happens to that. It may be too expensive for the Aust Federal Govt to cancel that lease but we will have to wait and see.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:07pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Easy to sort out China
  
  Get Aus and Brazil to ban Iron Ore exports. China will collapse in months OR cut off supply of wheat/soy/grains
  
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  April 23, 2021 1:24pm
  - MCos
    
    So will australia
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:05pm
  - SB2
    
    It won’t happen so continue with the dark fantasies.
    
    China itself and Russia etc have ample reserves
    
    ahttps://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/world-iron-ore-reserves-countries/ have ample reserves
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:31pm
I remember when

US reach 200,000,000 vaccination doses.
Worldometer shows 32 million cases of covid for US.
Still recorded 883 deaths for 20 April.
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April 23, 2021 10:22am
kowtow

Oh look ,another unprovoked and serious assault from a gangster.

‘A talented young rugby player who suffered head injuries after being knocked unconscious by a Mongrel Mob member in central Christchurch is making a tentative return to training.
Leni Taufateau is back jogging at the Prebbleton Rugby Club, a positive sign after he cracked his head against the pavement on The Terrace after being struck in an unprovoked attack in the early hours of January 31.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-sport/star-rugby/it%E2%80%99s-been-pretty-tough-road-him-rugby-player-returns-training-after
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April 23, 2021 10:30am
Rusty

Does anybody know if Ian Wishart is still doing investigative journalism?

He seemed to disappear from public view around the same time Leighton Smith retired from newstalk radio in 2018.

With the covid pandemic and a lefty/socialist Labour govt dominating our news you would think he would be active in exposing their agendas.

But like I say, I don’t either way, if hes retired or stopped doing this.
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April 23, 2021 10:44am
- mikenmildagain
  
  He hasn’t published one of his laughable books for a while, and his trashy magazine crashed a few years ago too.
  
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  April 23, 2021 1:46pm
- MCos
  
  He’s around
  https://twitter.com/investigatemag/status/1381338738488270849?s=20
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:03pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  hiyaa Rus – i’ve been a Twitter follower of Ian’s for ages.
  He doesn’t tweet as much as he used to…..but whenever he does, its certainly worth the read!
  
  Just clik on the ‘follow’ link.
  
  https://twitter.com/investigatemag?lang=en
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:14pm
  - SB2
    
    Ian Wishart still his old paranoid self.Nothing changes.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:49pm
    - Inandout
      
      SB, I think Hager takes that ‘paranoid’ honour.
      
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      April 23, 2021 4:37pm
  - Rusty
    
    Thanks Maggie for the Link.
    
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    April 23, 2021 3:32pm
Yvette

Nanaia Mahuta raises tense issue of deportees with Australian counterpart, regarding the policy that
Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton referred as “taking the trash out”.

Questions which journalists seem not to have asked are –
1 – What are the deportation rates of other nationalities committing crime in Australia?
2 – Have New Zealanders entered Australia with favoured visa grounds that then see offenders expelled for abusing a special privilege, which other nationalities do not have?
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April 23, 2021 10:46am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Candace Owens on George Floyd. The media is lying to you.
This does not mean I condone the Police action. See about 8.00 into the clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3YJ24roIzk
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April 23, 2021 10:52am
- Fletch
  
  Yep. Remember when the liberals were all calling for police body cams? Well, we have those now. We have the video footage of most of these incidents. And what happens now? The footage is ignored because it doesn’t show what the liberals supposed it would, or wanted it to show. They would rather spin it their own way.
  
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  April 23, 2021 11:31am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    It’s extraordinary that the girl behind the George Floyd video is being hailed as a hero. The body cam footage existed and was always going to be used in the investigation into what happened. Her video simply showed what happened from a secondary (inferior) angle that made it look much worse than it was.
    
    They are right that without her video, the riots and guilty verdict wouldn’t have happened but that’s not necessarily a good thing.
    
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    April 23, 2021 12:41pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The guilty verdict was given because the Judge/s, Jurors would have been doxed by the crazy left and BLM. They feared for their safety and their families safety.
      Now if Floyd had have been white ……..
      
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      April 23, 2021 2:28pm
      - SB2
        
        “Now if Floyd had have been white…”
        
        More than likely would never happen
        
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        April 23, 2021 2:45pm
- I remember when
  
  ‘A Pandemic of Cowardice because people are too scared once the mob says this is what must be said.’
  Does this have a ring of truth
  
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  April 23, 2021 11:40am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Looks like the downtickers think the media is gospel.
  You stupid pricks
  
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  April 23, 2021 11:42am
  - SB2
    
    With your delusional beliefs down ticking becomes easy.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:54pm
- SB2
  
  The media lying about precisely what, Candice?
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Watch again and pay attention stupid boy
    
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    April 24, 2021 8:28am
NoCash

Just read that China is working hard on photonic chips and graphene chips in an effort to leapfrog the West in semiconductor technologies, fanciful thinking or something the West should pay attention to?

How technologically advanced is China really? I think the vast majority of general public in the West still consider China a poor and low tech country capable of making cheap and nasty goods only. I hope our politicians don’t think the same…
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April 23, 2021 11:04am
- virtualmark
  
  Bit fanciful.
  
  China is at least 10 years behind the USA in chip and memory fabrication. And the USA has been leaning very heavily on the fab makers to ensure China isn’t able to buy the cutting-edge equipment.
  
  China will get there eventually, but they will have to take the time to work it out themselves rather than buying in expertise from others. (“China working it out for themselves” = “stealing it”)
  
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  April 23, 2021 3:40pm
  - NoCash
    
    virtualmark, I hope you’re not in the majority general public camp…
    
    Graphene chips are not silicon based, it’s green field compared to silicon semiconductors. It doesn’t need EUV machinery, which is what the US is restricting exports to limit China’s development. But even ASML the world leading EUV Dutch firm acknowledges that once China develops the technologies to make graphene chips, China will be fully self sufficient in semiconductors.
    
    The race to develop carbon based semiconductors is the 21st century space race. Unfortunately for the Chinese, no one in the world has mastered it, so they can’t steal it. They will have to actually develop the technologies on their own. Also unfortunately for the West, China is actually progressing well and on par with the West in this field AFAIK.
    
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    April 23, 2021 5:59pm
Bobba Fret

This is an interesting story on the Herald (thats actually not pay-walled).
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-how-a-family-fled-and-returned-to-miq-facility-in-auckland/CBDHTOHBHO3I5YLCA324OIKUCE/
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April 23, 2021 11:07am
mandk

I was just wondering why woke morons like to add personal pronouns in parentheses after their names, Joe Smith (he/him), Jacinda Polly (she/her), etc.

What have they got against the possessive pronouns, his and hers? And why do they need to show two pronouns, when surely one is enough to make their preferred gender clear?

Cheers
Mandk (cis-xy)
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April 23, 2021 11:28am
- alphabeatrium
  
  I’ve often had the same thought. (thou/thee)
  
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  April 23, 2021 9:32pm
I remember when

Climate change is leading to feelings of loss, frustration and depression within the scientific community with proof of impeding doom that’s largely met with insufficient action.
That anguish has lead many to embrace a more emotive paradigm across academia and the research community, eschewing the traditional veneer of calm-headed scientific objectivity.
Climate homesickness is both now a term (solastalgia) and a well-documented phenomenon everywhere from Africa and Appalachia to Canada and China.
Alcoholics Anonymous-style clubs are forming around those feeling the global warming blues.
Just for those who may have missed the news.
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April 23, 2021 11:31am
mikenmildagain

Today is also the seventieth anniversary of the Battle of Kap’yong, where NZ’s 16th Field Regiment distinguished itself in support of Canadian and Australian infantry to during the defeat of the Chinese spring offensive.
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April 23, 2021 11:32am
rockape

More deception and behind the door governance from this very dodgy government.https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/441070/immigration-new-zealand-apologises-and-refunds-over-covert-residence-policy
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April 23, 2021 12:06pm
- SB2
  
  RNZ where no right minded right winger dares to go.
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:53pm
  - Jack5
    
    It’s a Red swamp, Stephie.
    
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    April 23, 2021 9:52pm
hmmokrightitis

I know this will get lost in the noise, but it needs saying.

The Blond and I are in Auckland for a family wedding. Staying in the center of town – dinner at Masu last night was great, as always. The Grill tonight, we got to pick our favs, but start with Depot, oysters and martinis 🙂

We went for a wander this morning, up and down Q Street, and some of the streets behind as well.

I’ve never seen so many homeless people on the streets, and I’m in my 50’s, lived here until my early 20’s, been here on and off since then. Its bad in Wellington too.

So, my question is simple – given how bad it really is, when is someone, anyone, in the media going to call out this government, and particularly the PM who said she was about eradicating poverty?

Q Street feels mostly likely a completely dodgy shit hole.
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April 23, 2021 12:10pm
- Nickc2
  
  Don’t be fooled hmmokrightitis. Their chauffeurs pick them up in their Rolls at around 3:00PM, take them back to their Motels where they take a shower, change into their affluent clothes and their chauffeurs then take them to their clubs. That’s Auckland for you.
  
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  April 23, 2021 12:41pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  The problem was solved the moment the National government was ousted.
  John Campbell, the cameras and such just stopped caring…..
  
  I agree it is grotty, and especially so since the beggars in NZ are often fat, smoking, or even playing with phones (or noisy).
  While mental illness and addiction is at play, the rough sleepers are also a social/lifestyle grouping and to my mind taking the piss spreading out their bulk on the footpath.
  
  Beggars or homeless overseas I have no issue or reluctance giving money to, especially when they are not even seeking it and I know there is no welfare state like here. People missing limbs, or deformed, or even families with infants living on the streets are heartbreaking when I don’t even know how they source clean drinking water.
  But the ones in NZ – I see them as a national shame, rather than a target for compassion.
  Need to be IDed, tresspassed off the public way, and reffered to shelters and facilities that are available if they are genuinely without homes – and we know, even by the leftie-media, that there are not always genuinely homeless; which is why in NZ they use the term ‘rough sleeper’.
  Well, piss off to Te Urewera then, Mr/Ms. Rough Sleeper.
  
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  April 23, 2021 2:46pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Agree. There is absolutely no need for beggars or “rough sleepers” in NZ. They are a disgrace and nobody seems prepared to deal with them. We are happily turning our cities into slums. I’m not so sure about the virtue of the same people overseas. In both Italy and Turkey I have watched beggars on the street, in both cases with young children, secreting wads of money away from prying eyes and just leaving a few coins in their begging bowls. In Turkey it appeared to be a well run business with a shady looking business man turning up regularly to collect the cash from the begging woman, no doubt he had beggars in several locations. The woman’s child was about 2 and they were out on the street until midnight. I watched all this unfold from my hotel room.
    
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    April 23, 2021 4:40pm
- virtualmark
  
  hmmokrightitis,
  
  The sad reality is that these are intractable problems that neither Labour or National have any credible plan to resolve.
  
  Although, I do think Bill English was on an interesting path with his “social investment” thinking. Unfortunately politics is tribal and Labour won’t readily pick up an idea that’s from the other tribe. Even if it actually aligns well with their values.
  
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  April 23, 2021 3:45pm
  - Mike
    
    Social investment was a slogan with no actual substance.
    
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    April 23, 2021 5:59pm
    - Batman
      
      Respectfully, you’re confusing social investment under English with the shell it is now under Ardern.
      
      OG social investment actually changed lives, and saved them. I know because I saw the cases. Did you?
      
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      April 23, 2021 6:05pm
  - Nickc2
    
    In Auckland, it’s a council problem. They won’t get rid of them from the CBD. IMO, they are not beggars because our welfare system is designed to and does take care of their financial woes. There is no reason for them being there when taxpayers are paying their hard-earned dollars to maintain their lifestyles in Motel accommodation.
    Wake up NZ, we are being played for suckers.
    
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    April 23, 2021 8:29pm
Maggie Pie

Anyone game for a slap-up Dinner and Superior King Room tomorrow night at the Pullman?

Asking for a friend 😛
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April 23, 2021 12:13pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Pull who?
  
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  April 23, 2021 1:13pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    She definitely wants a man I’m sorry, mike.
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:29pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Pathetic attempt at humour, quite sad from someone who can say some intelligent things
    
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    April 23, 2021 2:30pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from tennis tweets……

https://twitter.com/skellyaknz/status/1385353232977842176
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April 23, 2021 1:20pm
artemisia

Arizona Dems trying to stop the Maricopa County audit of 2020 votes. The audit starts in a few hours.

The Guardian says the audit is absurd.

The Dems lawsuit says the audit is being run by conspiracy theorists.

Surely better to know for sure. If everything is kosher that will help settle down the large number of uneasy voters who wonder.
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April 23, 2021 2:31pm
SB2

The time when Andrew Bolt gloated and boasted a Trump win 2020 ( HA! HA! ) but quickly had to backpedal with a UH OH !

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/nov/06/andrew-bolts-gloating-over-us-election-result-trumped-by-reality

Thanks for the memories,oaf!
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April 23, 2021 2:38pm
- Inandout
  
  TDS runs deep with you.
  
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  April 23, 2021 6:06pm
- Fletch
  
  He obviously didn’t think the Dems cheating would be so blatant. Trump did win, of course. Nobody really believes Biden got those hundreds of thousands of votes in the early morning legally. Not even Biden, I suspect.
  
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  April 23, 2021 7:57pm
oldfella

Is Health NZ a working title? Will it become Health Aotearoa when it becomes law?
I think we should keep it simple and just call it ApartHealth Te Teriti.
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April 23, 2021 2:59pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Close, check speeling please
  
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  April 23, 2021 4:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Totally scripted. This moonbat is too young to have composed this. You are being played again people.
https://rumble.com/vfyeq1-its-never-enough-greta-complains-about-bidens-climate-summit.html?
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April 23, 2021 3:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I put a ball in a hole. Life is tough for this LeBron jerkoff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFceOLa8ldI
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April 23, 2021 3:14pm
curry4me

ASTERISK PRESIDENCY: Episode 14.
Direct from Harveywood, here is this week’s episode of Asterisk Presidency. Brought to you by the CCP, MSM, Wall Street, $oros, ANTIFA, BLM, and Burisma.
Will Beijing Biden declare a state of emergency on the border this week? Will Xi convert to Islam? Will CNNs credibility sink even lower? Will Washington DC become a state? Will AOC, and California Nan still be at war? Will ‘VP’ Harris visit the southern border? Will she wear fishnets, and stilettos? Has she got better dress sense than ‘Doctor’ Jill? Will a demotion to captain stop Major biting people? What if he went vegan? Will Joe still remember to be a leftist culture warrior this week? Will he remember the way to the Oval Office? Will sleepy Joe stay awake long enough to hike capital gains? Will ‘undocumented’ migrants’ remember to wear a mask? Will India and China slash carbon emissions in half by 2030? Will Hunter start smoking blue vein again? Will Chicago police get permission to chase criminals? Will Ukraine join NATO? Can Joe remember where Ukraine is? Can Hunter. Would he rather not?
Stay tuned folks!
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April 23, 2021 3:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

See how welfare works?
https://www.thedodo.com/in-the-wild/south-american-sea-lion-goes-to-fish-market
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April 23, 2021 3:17pm
Maggie Pie

I thort I’d share this with the group…

Get your mitz on some of those ‘AVIKO Fries’ from Belgium!
Compared to the local variety these really are AbFab!!
The girls at tennis have all switched since i gave them a taste.
Cheap as chips as well – 9 bucks for 2.5 kg.

You can thank me later 😀
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April 23, 2021 3:33pm
- mandk
  
  If they are from Belgium, they have probably been dumped into the NZ market, that is sold here more cheaply than they are sold in Belgium. It’s really crappy behavior by whoever owns Aviko.
  
  And just consider this – you are helping to put NZ fries manufacturers and potato growers out of business.
  
  Free trade is good. Dumping is unjustifiable.
  
  You can thank me later for this information.
  
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  April 23, 2021 4:01pm
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    It seems that you can buy NZ milk cheaper overseas so are we doing the same thing?
    
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    April 23, 2021 4:56pm
    - cmm
      
      Not necessarily.
      
      Some subsidies are supplier side (ie. farmers are paid the subsidies to support the farmers) and some are consumer side (ie. the supply chain is paid to support the consumers).
      
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      April 23, 2021 5:28pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Know exactly what you’re saying mandk…..
    We developed a taste for Beluga Caviar a couple of years back.
    Sanfords share price has fallen 40% in the same period.
    
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    April 23, 2021 5:05pm
  - cmm
    
    Next time you nosh into a nice bit of Canadian bacon thank the Canadian taxpayers for subsidizing your meal.
    
    Of course nothing is ever cheaper – just someone else is paying. In fact it becomes more expensive because the bureaucrats playing the middleman need to be paid.
    
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    April 23, 2021 5:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Change direction. It is 4 years since our 4th stay in Hawaii, we miss Hawaii badly. Something peaceful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKkv830Uato
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April 23, 2021 4:01pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  While on Hawaii subject, these two girls won a uke championship once. They can play.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxNq5IwRINY
  
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  April 23, 2021 4:08pm
- lifesgood
  
  Oh, stop it! You’re making me long for those days in that beautiful place. Isn’t the hula such a graceful dance.
  
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  April 23, 2021 4:29pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Should have seen my partner showing the tour crowd upon riverboat trip on Kauai. Large barge with about 60 people on board
    
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    April 24, 2021 8:32am
lifesgood

As a matter of interest, how come NZ citizens are still in India after over a year? Have they gone there during the covid crisis? If so how bloody stupid. If they chose to leave NZ surely that’s their problem. I think the latest announcement from the govt is wishy washy. All this burbling on about statelessness, it’s easy enough to buy a false covid test there, it must be easy enough to buy a long term visa. /sarc
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April 23, 2021 5:20pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/124937327/world-war-i-cannon-to-feature-at-invercargill-anzac-day-service
But nothing at all about the actual gun.
Where was it made ?
The calibre?
What did it fire?
How many on the gun crew?
What absolutely pathetic “reporting”.
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April 23, 2021 6:42pm
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  Is the crazy left Govt still buying back guns?
  
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  April 24, 2021 8:33am
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    Perhaps the government should be cracking down on privately owned artillery pieces.
    
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    April 24, 2021 8:46am
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  Seems to me that the salient facts are there: a German artillery piece brought back from WWI has been restored to working order.
  
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  April 24, 2021 8:45am
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