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Happychappy

Covid-19 : Minister of Health tells GP’s ‘we don’t need you in Covid – 19 vaccine rollout A survey from the Royal College of General Practitioners found of 650 GP’s 58% wanted to be involved with the vaccine rollout 9% said they did not want to be involved while 30% said they weren’t sure.
Additionally the majority of New Zealander’s who are willing to get the Covid- 19vaccine- two thirds- want their GO’s to administer it according to new public sediment research.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/04/covid-19-ministry-of-health-tells-auckland-gp-we-don-t-need-you-in-covid-19-vaccine-rollout.html
So just like Jacinda Ardern yesterday and Chris Hipkins on the Register for those having test for the safety of others over Covid -19 , Ashley Bloomfield knows it all and dosen’t need those that are qualified to do the job.
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April 16, 2021 8:00am
- cmm
  
  There is a huge problem with this – storage of the vaccines.
  
  While many people would undoubtedly rather have a GP do it, the GPs are not set up with the -70C storage facilities.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:26am
  - GazzaW
    
    It was on the news this week that the Pfizer vaccine no longer requires short-term storage at -70 degrees and that standard medical refrigeration equipment can be used. Any unused vaccines can be returned to the distribution centre and safely refrozen at -70 degrees.
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Who is getting a kickback manufacturing low temp freezers?
      
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      April 16, 2021 9:07am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Three major manufacturers in the western world: Thermo, Revco and Stirling. Stirlings are the best as they have no compressors, but they cost twice as much. I should know I own 4 of them, big ones (not Stirlings), but my building has 6 shared Stirlings.
        
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        April 16, 2021 10:08am
      - rangitoto
        
        I guess they could be distributed in a dewar flask with liquid nitrogen as long as the doses are used before the liquid nitrogen boils off.
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:19am
  - rockape
    
    It can be stored at normal freezer temperature -20 for two weeks and fridge temperature for 5 days. So as long as DHBs have the colder storage it won’t be a problem.
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:42am
    - cmm
      
      …. until they change their mind yet again…
      
      Now we’re hearing that 2 jabs is not enough and you will need three as well as boosters.
      
      Clearly the performance of these vaccines is not well understood. How long before they change their minds again and decide that you really should keep them properly refrigerated otherwise you need four jabs.
      
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      April 16, 2021 3:14pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    That’s a complete non-sequitur. There aren’t any nurses with access to a -70C coolstore either, yet they find a way to administer the vaccine. Having your GP do it doesn’t mean it has to be done at their surgery, obviously.
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:00am
    - cmm
      
      “Having your GP do it doesn’t mean it has to be done at their surgery, obviously”
      
      Are you expecting someone to get their GP to traipse off a hospital to do one jab for a person that would rather their GP did it?
      
      Dream on.
      
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      April 16, 2021 3:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Can just one Govt person tell the truth please?
  Just how many vaccine doses are in NZ, and how many have been administered?
  Acquired 1 million, or 10 million does not mean the vaccines are here physically on the ground.
  So much bullshit flying around
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:31am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Saline anyone? Water is almost free, salt is $1.40 per KG
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:05am
    - david
      
      I think you will find that pharmaceutical grade salt is far more expensive. Probably twice what you estimate. Huge difference. Next question please?
      
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      April 16, 2021 2:23pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        You know well that this current Govt will go for the cheapest shit they can find
        
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        April 16, 2021 3:06pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        I buy it about every 5 years… 5Kg for somewhere round $US500
        
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        April 16, 2021 3:34pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Salt is rock, no matter where it comes from.
        
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        April 16, 2021 5:28pm
  - Bob
    
    Steve, you are asking an awful lot of this government!!
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:29am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Not just me.NZ is not getting any answers, just lies
      
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      April 16, 2021 12:17pm
- G152
  
  Quote:
  # dosen’t need those that are #
  
  Very clever Happychappy
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:49am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    It’s just a typo, like “public sediment” and GO for GP.
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:02am
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  Pfizer have announced that you need three jabs now, the third six months after the second…..it will never end.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:16am
  - Batman
    
    I hear the third one contains the Bill Gates chip….
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:44am
    - virtualmark
      
      Yes, but once you’ve had that one you can get any further booster upgrades just by standing next to a 5G tower.
      
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      April 16, 2021 3:22pm
      - Batman
        
        If it gives me x-ray vision and Captain America’s build, my girlfriend and I will be very happy going forward. How does one spot a 5G tower? ?
        
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        April 16, 2021 4:56pm
  - Sacha
    
    What?
    They must have overstocked.
    Or maybe a lot of people are refusing to partake.
    Or maybe they already know it doesn’t work.
    It gets dodgier by the week . . . . . .
    
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    April 16, 2021 4:25pm
- Brian McDonald
  
  I would have thought “knowing it all” was a requirement for the job of Director-General of Health, on that basis you should probably apply for the job yourself. Maybe you could also run a poll and see what the “public sediment” is on you taking over, hopefully, it wouldn’t be too cloudy.
  Ashley’s optimistic that vaccine decliners will diminish.
  Apparently, he’s been hearing from some anti vaxers like CK who are insisting on having their shots where the sun doesn’t shine and without telling their names.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:40am
Maggie Pie

$$$$$$$$$

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1382760918191370246
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April 16, 2021 8:05am
Luke Piewalker

Got called again by Roy Morgan polling

Again got asked who I would vote for out of National Labour and Greens

I asked why no option for ACT. She said she had the option of manually writing in ACT

I still have no faith in this poll
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April 16, 2021 8:05am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Act have been polling as high as Greens so this is clearly push polling in action.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:00am
Mike

Much to celebrate today. It’s the centenary of the birth of Peter Ustinov, the 375th anniversary of the Battle of Culloden, and World Voice Day!
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April 16, 2021 8:07am
- curry4me
  
  Mike: Culloden was the best thing that ever happened to Scotland. From clan system to industrial revolution in an afternoon.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:11am
  - kowtow
    
    There was a time when people thought resisting German invasions and militarism was a good idea…..
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:41am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Culloden was the outcome of the treacherous Scottish invasion of England – the last time those filthy barbarians tried that.
      
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      April 16, 2021 9:47am
  - rockape
    
    I don’t think the English puting women and the injured in a building then burning it showed much civilisation from that lot. My parents house was on the edge of Culloden Moore, a quite place and 2here as a child I learnt to hate the English. I have outgrown that now unless it’s Calcutta cup time.
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:46am
    - Pharmachick
      
      You would get on with Mr Pharma… Dog only knows how he ended up with this 1/2 English, 1/2 kiwi lass.
      
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      April 16, 2021 10:11am
    - rangitoto
      
      Those nasty Sassenachs eh. Luckily I’m a mixture of English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh, so I’m allowed to hate everyone.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:27am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Self-hatred well covered, too.
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:46am
    - curry4me
      
      rockape: Rebelling against the king back in the day was no guarantee of hugs, and a life time supply of deep fried Mars bars. burning the inured, is definitely a no no though.
      
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      April 16, 2021 2:37pm
- Ruahine
  
  It is also Israeli Independence Day if one is in Israel.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  World voice day – knock your socks off
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:32am
- Kiwi Dave
  
  2021 – 1746 = 275th anniversary.
  
  Of course, this calculation uses maths, which we all know is a heteronormative imposition by the pale colonial patriarchy, so this anniversary is merely a suggestion.
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:05pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Oops!
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:41pm
Scott

Very revealing video of the CNN technical director admitting that they put up the Covid numbers to get ratings and instill fear. Sometimes he asks himself – “why isn’t the death toll higher? It would make our point better if the death toll was higher!” Sometimes they’ll take the numbers down and then they’ll get a ring from the head of the network, “there is nothing here making me stick, put up the numbers again.”

I think CNN was probably the worst. But here in New Zealand there also appears to be a constant effort by our media to make the Covid virus seem as bad as possible. In the early days of lockdown we had leading the television news, Covid claims another victim! Then we find out that the victim was a 93 year old woman. Now a 93 year old woman dying is sad for her family. But it is not national news!

That’s the problem. Our news media is chasing ratings and making things as sensational as possible. And it means that people are incredibly afraid of this virus, fear is being used to drive ratings. It certainly doesn’t make for responsible balanced coverage and it certainly doesn’t provide good information to the general public.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/project-veritas-drops-video-cnn-director-admitting-use-covid-fearmongering-ratings/
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April 16, 2021 8:07am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Here is a thought. Prince Philip is the FIRST person to die from old age in the last 18+ months
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:34am
  - tf78
    
    Steve, he did have the covid jab not that long ago – maybe he could have lived at least until his 100th birthday otherwise.
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:21am
  - Bob
    
    and that is in the whole world; how did he escape such a fate as Covid??
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:32am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Covid is the cure. Fixes old age, cancer, emphysema, bronchitis, cystic fibrosis, coughs, colds, and sore arseholes.
      Then again, so does arsenic
      
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      April 16, 2021 12:20pm
- RiP NZ
  
  Hi Scott
  It goes much further than their manipulation on Covid, race, BLM, Trump, elections.
  
  I see twitter has promptly banned James O’Keefe.
  Cant have the actual truth getting out can we.
  Stunning how seemingly otherwise intelligent people cant see, or cant admit they’ve been had. I guess its hard to admit.
  
  Democrats are the devil –
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:24am
  - Batman
    
    O’Keefe was banned for misleading others with multiple accounts and spam. Aka astroturfing to create fake narratives.
    
    And the democrats are the devil? Even the religious among us at KB haven’t gone that far off the deep end mate.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:43am
  - Bob
    
    Tis a weakness of human nature that a significant percentage are unable to admit that they are wrong, in any way.
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:34am
- SB2
  
  Project ” disinformation” Viritas onto this?
  
  Well I never..!
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:55am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    ….had an original thought?
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:05am
  - Fletch
    
    Veritas are pretty much the only reporters practicing actual journalism now. The mainstream media (especially in the U.S) are content to robotically repeat whatever the Left and the Democrat party say.
    
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    April 16, 2021 1:13pm
    - Batman
      
      It’s not journalism. It’s a shady political hack who has had most of his plots foiled and exposed for being con jobs. No wonder he’s been thrown off Twitter for account manipulation and spam.
      
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      April 16, 2021 2:34pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Remember his lame attempt to seduce a journalist?
        
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        April 16, 2021 2:53pm
      - Fletch
        
        Veritas are suing the bastards. They already won against the NY Times, and they will win against Twitter, too.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FrzHjBw-QI
        
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        April 16, 2021 4:01pm
      - Batman
        
        For a second time, that seems unlikely given the circumstances. The NY Times case was different of course, and is still ongoing. One favourable ruling isn’t a win.
        
        https://thehill.com/homenews/media/547995-new-york-times-defends-itself-against-project-veritas-defamation-suit
        
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        April 16, 2021 5:32pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  And the left wing media cartel have now blocked Veritas from twitter for the terrible crime of showing what CNN’s propagandist editorial policies really are.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:03am
- Raphael
  
  Twitter just perma-banned O’Keefe….. methinks his undercover work has been getting too close to home for them.
  https://www.dailywire.com/news/twitter-permanently-bans-journalist-james-okeefe-after-he-releases-videos-damaging-to-cnn
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:50am
  - Batman
    
    Or he should learn not to break a private company’s terms of service repeatedly.
    
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/project-veritas-founder-james-okeefe-permanently-booted-from-twitter
    
    “The account you referenced (@JamesOKeefeIII) was permanently suspended for violating the Twitter Rules on platform manipulation and spam,” a Twitter spokesperson told The Daily Beast.
    
    This kind of thing will be far more prevalent if section 230 is repealed. A self-own by MAGA of magnificent proportions
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:08am
    - BananaLlama
      
      platform manipulation and spam
      
      Hahahahahaha Twitter should ban itself then.
      Can’t wait until Section 230 is amended and they get exactly what they deserve.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:20am
    - Fletch
      
      Veritas are suing Twitter. They will likely win, too.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FrzHjBw-QI
      
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      April 16, 2021 4:02pm
      - Batman
        
        What gives you that confidence? They breached clear terms of service and now the founder has too, hardly an argument to use in court.
        
        If Veritas is so successful, its own website should suffice.
        
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        April 16, 2021 5:29pm
I remember when

Auckland Airport have 100 businesses when fully operational.
There are eleven operating at present largely duty-free and food and beverage.
The rest have been allowed to go into hibernation, with many having sold their stock and let their staff go. It will take them time to re-employ and replace their stock.
Great hopes are being placed on the Aussie bubble as we usually get 1.4 million Australian visitors annually and 9 million Australian travel overseas every year.
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April 16, 2021 8:08am
- rockape
  
  I would think the most passengers using the bubble will not be tourists. They will be returning Kiwis and businesspeople who have been unable to travel. The tourist industry shouldn’t get its hopes up too high yet.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:35am
  - hullkiwi
    
    This morning’s headline a variant of exactly that. Bookings from Aust are already drying up. Seems people are still reluctant to travel. I wonder why?
    
    Good strategy, that, make people fearful and then hope things will return to normal, because a politician says its ok. Isn’t that called crying “wolf!”
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:51am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    I have heard that Queenstown is heavily booked by Aussies next week from a work colleague that just had a few days down there.
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:37am
- Loddenthinks
  
  And once again the unintended consequences fairy has visited the useless gummint, making it harder for Kiwis to return home via Australia, which is where most of the flights transit through.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/124839856/transtasman-bubbles-unintended-consequence-returning-kiwis-transit-flights-through-australia-cancelled
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:07am
Im Right

Well well well, colour me shocked!
Labour, and the left in genral, were squealing like stuck pigs when it was announced that a tax subsidy was given to film Lord Of The Rings…
And we now see a subsidy offered to the richest man/company on the planet for filming LOTRs TV show in NZ.
Hypocricy thy name is Labour.
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April 16, 2021 8:10am
curry4me

ASTERISK PRESIDENCY: Episode 13.
Direct from Harveywood, here is this week’s episode of Asterisk Presidency. Brought to you by the CCP, MSM, Wall Street, $oros, ANTIFA, BLM, and Burisma.
Will Harveywood endorse Caitlin Jenner for Governor of California? Would it be transphobic if they didn’t? Would it be transphobic if they did? Has Major been demoted to captain yet? Has ‘Dr Jill’ ditched the high heels, and fishnet stockings? Will Beijing Biden boycott the Winter Olympics? Will the pope do next Sundays Mass standing on his head? Will returning to Trumps South American border policy be racist? Who will win the civil war; AOC, or California Nan? Will Cindy McCain become an ambassador? Is there a US embassy in Outer Mongolia? Will Hunter be talking to the FBI, and IRS? Will they be taking an interest in Patrisse Cullors? Is there anything left to burn in Minnesota? Will the Dems pack the Supreme Court? Will Hunter have to pack for executive jail? Will the FBI, or SEC ask awkward questions about Paul Pelosi’s investments? Will NY be the next state to give $40 million to illegal immigrants? Will the other blue states start a race? Will Republicans get another special election victory? How many more swing seats will go red? Can Beijing Biden find Taiwan, or Ukraine on a map? Can he find his way to the situation room? Stay tuned folks!
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April 16, 2021 8:10am
- Batman
  
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  Lololol now do statutory rapist Gaetz, narcissist Trump, stone cold McConnell, simping Rick Scott, deadbeat dad Miller, fascist Hawley, Mexico Cruize, and let’s not forget little Rog’ Stone and his dodgy friends.
  
  That would be a wild episode ?
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:25am
  - Raphael
    
    Now that’s a slander on Gaetz. Even the accusations of his dalliance with the young lady are true (and are big questions about that), she was over the age of consent in that State, so it was not “statutory rape”.
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:32am
    - Batman
      
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      If that’s your defence then you’ve already lost. Or you can Venmo me US$900 for “school” and I’ll change my description to something like perverted sex creep Gaetz then?
      
      Maybe there really is no limit to what people will defend from the MAGA cult leaders!
      
      Plus, isn’t child sex trafficking exactly what the MAGA movement, Trump, and QAnon are so against? Seems not…
      
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      April 16, 2021 8:42am
      - Tall Man
        
        Time for a lie down I think Batman.
        
        Just to help you out, Donald Trump is no longer in the loop, only in your mind……
        
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        April 16, 2021 9:25am
      - Batman
        
        Tell that to the election truthers who pine for their golden god man ?
        
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        April 16, 2021 10:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Wasn’t Gaetz the only member of congress to votes against strengthening sex-trafficking legislation? Ick.
        
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        April 16, 2021 9:49am
      - Frank the tank
        
        No matter how hard you try you aren’t getting the old GOP back. Enjoy voting for Kamila and/or AOC in 2024.
        
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        April 16, 2021 10:19am
    - Nickc2
      
      That jerk from CNN admitted the hit on Gaetz was a setup. Fucking media again.
      
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      April 16, 2021 8:57am
      - Batman
        
        Yes, they really set Gaetz up by having him set his Venmo to public and send money to an indicted sex pest for “school” and “tuition” hahaha
        
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        April 16, 2021 10:27am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “Mexico Cruize” – that’s what your mate Menendez March does every year, isn’t it?
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:10am
  - Vory v zakone
    
    But but but….
    Look over there at my imaginary squirrel
    #thebestisyettocome ?
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:43pm
- GazzaW
  
  I’m not sure whether Biden can find Taiwan or Ukraine on the map but the Dow passed through 34,000 points this morning and that’s an increase of over 20% since the election in November.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:40am
  - kowtow
    
    He’s printing so much cash people have to house it somewhere , meanwhile the poor are still poor.
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:57am
    - Paulus
      
      kowtow
      Surely this must really apply to Grant Robertson ?
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:03am
      - kowtow
        
        Yep , another reason there’s an exacerbated housing crisis here.
        
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        April 16, 2021 1:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    34000? That would be Trump’s fault
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:01am
    - Biscuit
      
      We are forever gonna agree to disagree re Trump, Steve.
      
      Although let me hasten to add that my opinion of just about all politicians is scraping groundrock…
      
      But I was told in this very blog just after the election that the fall in Twitter’s Share price was because of Trump and that this was the beginning of its end, heh.
      
      Twitter was then, without checking, in the mid $US40 range.
      
      I see today it is up to $US71.71.
      
      Not sure how Trump can be creditted with THAT!
      
      Again I make the point that very little that the Prez does (and, like you, I am no great Biden fan) the Dow will tend to increase…
      
      But I have upticked your comment anyway!
      
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      April 16, 2021 9:26am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I forgot the // tag, sorry
        
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        April 16, 2021 12:21pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Confidence in a more stable administration?
      
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      April 16, 2021 9:50am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Too much money chasing to few shares. Printed money always has a home, that’s what helps ruin affordable house prices.
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:34am
    - GazzaW
      
      2021 USA housing price growth predicted at 7-8%.
      
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      April 16, 2021 9:56am
  - Pharmachick
    
    Repeat after me: “Stockmarket bubbles, whether inflated by quantitative easing or not, do not last and end badly”.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:18am
    - oldfella
      
      Pharma: Muldoon said something like that back in the day. He was right. Anyone remember 1987? Ouch!
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:17am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        I was part of his Team.
        
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        April 16, 2021 1:19pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        I remember ’87, but not super well apart from anyone with stocks in Brierly got hosed, which I think was everyone [aside: sorry, sorry, sorry – its like the reverse of Candyman, if we say sorry 3X can we just send him and his memory away].
        
        I do remember much better the tech bubble circa 2000, and the GFC in 2008 (when I owned property in the US)…
        
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        April 16, 2021 2:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

If I was to call you a liar and then arrange for the MSM to widely report the fact that you were a liar, would I have been “blunt speaking” or committing defamation?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-admits-calling-covid-positive-security-worker-a-liar-was-a-bit-blunt.html
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April 16, 2021 8:18am
- cmm
  
  I wonder if this worker is going to end up $300k richer and the taxpayer $300k poorer?
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:29am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Doesn’t look his Union is doing much to help him.
    Will he be savvy enough to lawyer-up?
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:35am
    - Ruawai
      
      Even if he is proven to be a liar surely it is still defamation by the PM to call him a liar before it is proven?
      
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      April 16, 2021 8:49am
      - Nickc2
        
        Let’s call it Hate Speech from the Podium of Truth.
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:47am
- peterwn
  
  Presumably she said it under Parliamentary privilege, but unfortunately inciting the media to report it would not appear to make it defamation.
  This reminds me of an incident in the Helen Clark era when a teenage girl was hung out to dry for refusing to sell disallowed items to a beneficiary presenting a WINZ voucher. Although the girl would have broken her employer’ guidelines and the law if she sold these items, it seemed no one from the Responsible Minister, WINZ or the supermarket management could care less about that law. Indeed her allegedly ‘privileged’ background was questioned. Rosemary McLeod put her boot in too. This was no way for society to treat a young person.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:35am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Didn’t Helen Clark have to apologise for calling a man a ‘murderer’, when he was only guilty of manslaughter?
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:51am
    - alex Masterley
      
      Yes. That is correct.
      
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      April 16, 2021 10:55am
    - Nickc2
      
      Which Helen Clark are we talking about here? Oh, that’s right it could only be that one who’s an Art Forger.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:32am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Works for Pelosi, she does i tall the time – the MSM love it
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:37am
- Tony Stuart
  
  You were simply being too definitive Maggy 😀
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:04am
- Nickc2
  
  Is the podium of truth considered part of the house for the purpose of slander, or is it considered outside whereby a charge of slander can be bought against Comrade Cindy?
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:05am
- KevO'Brien
  
  PM’s that fell to Ardern’s grade were once expected to resign and take their Cabinet with them.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:37am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Please name the last NZ PM who resigned for any such reason, or any remotely similar reason.
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:52am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Mma, you are asking a lot there? The only PMs that resigned were those that were retiring or they lost the election. Lange was the exception, because there was hostilities within the cabinet. Palmer then got pushed.
      
      The only ones to retire were Holland, Holyoake and Key. The rest were pushed by their caucus or the electorate. So, PMs being honourable is not the NZ way.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:00am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I was just highlighting Kev’s ridiculous idea about historical standards for PMs.
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:45am
    - graham
      
      Can’t think of a Prime Minister offhand, but at least David Clark had the guts to resign last year after failing to meet expectations.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:27am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        David Clark didn’t resign from Parliament… he got side-lined from Min of Health.
        
        He is still a Cabinet Minister:
        and is Min of Commerce
        Min of Digital Economy
        Min of Earthquake Commission
        Min of SOE
        Min of Statistics
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:36am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Correct Maggy. New Zealand ministers used to resign from the cabinet for personal and political failings. Since the 1990s (Cave Creek), they only drop a portfolio or two.
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:44am
      - graham
        
        Fair point Maggy
        
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        April 16, 2021 12:27pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Pity you wern’t around in the mid 20th c. No NZ government then would have dared what this present clutch of incompetents have attempted. MP’s were severely critiqued and some were rejected.
      Now: laxity, tyranny, impossibility…
      
      Where’s their Mandate? The blank cheque only stretches so far. Their duty of care to the Citizens of New Zealand has not been diminished. It has probably been increased by having a higher majority bringing greater responsibility. Otherwise tyranny reigns.
      
      The Common Law, ageless legal wisdom and precedent for a working society, still applies.
      
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      April 16, 2021 1:32pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Incompetence needs a scapegoat.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:43am
- Frank the tank
  
  Probably just a little too ‘definitive’
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:20am
- Tony
  
  Perhaps she was being a bit too definitive.
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:33am
Maggie Pie

So, Bloomers reckons the cost of NZ’s vaccine rollout will be in the order of $1 – 2 billion.
Quick calc on the back of my napkin = $200 – $400 pp.

Sounds about right?
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April 16, 2021 8:19am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  I think that the US government contracted the Pfizer vaccine for US$20 per shot.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:30am
  - Pharmachick
    
    US got Pfizer cheap, same way UK got Astra cheap. The rest of the world pays more… which irks the Canadians because they invented the packaging technology for both Moderna and Pfizer (liposomes), in fact it was spin out companies (two) from my Institution. Although to be fair, at least we have Moderna and Pfizer (the former shipment to Canada due Monday is now delayed I see).
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:23am
  - Centrist
    
    The trouble is that most of the cost of the rollout will be on venue hire, advertising, and intercultural communication training.
    
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    April 16, 2021 12:30pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The rollout will all be done in proto-Maori, derived from various stones around the Southern tip of Auckland Island. Training classes will be announced shortly.
      The acknowledgement of these first settlers is proper response to the Fireplace Lady for promoting the UN to takeover our Maori affairs.
      
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      April 16, 2021 1:41pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Maybe quite a bit more than that
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:26pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The left use a roving decimal point.
  ‘I refute that’
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:38am
- cmm
  
  Your back of the envelope calc is wrong. Only about 3M people can get the vaccine – so $300 to $600.
  
  Yup, about right:
  * Cost of vaccine: $50
  * Cost of nurse to jab (5 mins @$50 per hour) = $5
  * Communications costs (banners, consultants, coming up with the proper Maori name …): $200
  * Costs for location, tea, H&S overheads: $20
  * Taniwha food: $100
  
  I’m sure most of the older readers here can remember the polio rollouts in the 1960s: nurse + helper turns up at school, kids stand in a line, 30 seconds each. Job done.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:38am
  - tf78
    
    cmm, I remember lining up outside a building in Symonds Street – kids in front were all screaming after the jab – it was horrible.
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:29am
    - cmm
      
      Easily solved with 1 cent of lollies…
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:24am
    - Trev
      
      From my memory there was no jab for polio but you drank something from a small paper cup. For TB there was a jab or two.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:59am
      - rockape
        
        I remember getting it on a sugar cube.
        
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        April 16, 2021 12:57pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        There are two ways – jab, or by mouth. I still have the small scar on my shoulder
        
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        April 16, 2021 3:10pm
  - GazzaW
    
    I can’t even recall the need for parental consent for the school jabs for TB and polio. Everybody got one unless the parents wrote a letter. The entire school was done in a day.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:07am
- Frank the tank
  
  You forgot about the ‘koha’ payments bearing in mind this virus is racist and targets brown, black and yellow people.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:41am
  - Phronesis
    
    A virus with daddy issues then?
    
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    April 16, 2021 9:35am
KevO'Brien

Are the American’s one step away from war with Russia?

I don’t like posting this, but Paul Craig Roberts is a proven senior statesman with an excellent understanding of global affairs. (Wise councel who speaks truth to facts.)

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/04/14/one-question-before-us-is-will-we-be-destroyed-in-war-before-we-lose-our-civil-liberty-to-the-establishments-orchestrated-covid-pandemic/
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April 16, 2021 8:19am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Lets say Russia in a highly public way (as opposed to their current clandestine way) invaded the area currently occupied by the Ukrainian separatists, but that is as far as they went. Would that start a war?
  
  Almost certainly not, it would be similar to the Crimea occupation. A forcible rewriting of the boundary between Ukraine and Russia.
  
  What would the US and the west do? I reckon a few sanctions here and there. If it actually stabilised things, then they would quickly dissipate.
  
  One of the problems of the very rapid break up of the Soviet Union was that the original federal boundaries were often for convenience rather than being international boundaries. So populations ended being “stranded”.
  
  One would think a “boundary re-organisation commission” could have sorted this out, rather than the numerous borders wars that have occurred over the least 30 years, particularly in the southern regions of the original Soviet Union. However, none of these wars have looked like they would ignite a wider war.
  
  Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia had the advantage of being independent nations prior to 1940. And now being members of NATO, they have full protection. So no war is likely there.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:35am
  - curry4me
    
    Wayne Mapp: I guess Ukraine regrets giving up its nukes back in the day.
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:51pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Wayne,
    
    Today’s announcement of US sanctions was interesting. I see it as “here’s Phase I, to punish you for meddling with us. But if you keep going with Crimea we’ll move on to Phase II”.
    
    Phase I’s main penalty is that Russia won’t be able to access Western markets for Government debt. That will hurt in the medium term. But it affects Russia as a state more than individuals.
    
    Phase II, at a guess, would be to sanction individuals. Putin himself, the 30-ish key oligarch’s.
    
    If I had to guess at a Phase III I’d go for cutting Russia off from SWIFT.
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:29pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Wayne,
    
    Also … the problem Russia has is water. Crimea gets its water from the North Crimean Canal, that originates on the Dnieper River in the Ukraine near Nova Kakhovka. The Ukrainians have dammed the canal just north of Havrylivka Druha – you can see the dry canal bed in Google Earth. Crimea is now running very low on water.
    
    To secure Crimea’s water Russia probably needs to retake all the land south of the Dnieper.
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:36pm
- Dairy Flat
  
  Latest from Geopolitical Futures;
  “Black Sea deployment canceled. The United States canceled the deployment of two warships to the Black Sea, according to Turkish officials. Washington had expressed concern about the military buildup along Ukraine’s border with Russia, but Moscow criticized the deployment, calling it provocative.”
  Maybe Sleepy Joe is getting some better advise now.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    China told Joe to back off or no more money? //
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:54am
    - kowtow
      
      Could even be Johnny Turk , you know a faithless NATO ally , wouldn’t give ’em permission to sail through the Bos.
      
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      April 16, 2021 9:08am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        US warships do not require Turkish permission to enter the black Sea. Transit of the Dardanelles and Bosporus is regulated by an international convention.
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:15am
  - virtualmark
    
    Biden just hit Russia with significant sanctions, and warned them about messing with American elections again. That is a hit with a stick.
    
    This (cancelling the Black Sea deployment) is now the dangling of a carrot.
    
    Easy to re-send those two destroyers back to the Black Sea if the Russian’s don’t take the carrot. And also easy to pull out a bigger heavier sanction stick too.
    
    From a diplomacy & geopolitics point of view I think Biden has made some good moves here.
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:38pm
- Batman
  
  That web link reads like something you’d find in a disturbed persons journal.
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:45am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Don’t click on it Batman. We don’t want NZ involved in fake news about WW3
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:57am
  - SB2
    
    To give Paul Craig Roberts his due he has achieved crank status a long, long time ago.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:00am
  - SB2
    
    Batman, you are right there.I’ve commented below about Paul Craig Roberts’s crank status,
    
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Fall_of_America_and_the_Western_World
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:32am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      You have achieved the status of an editor/feature writer for the Econonist and no doubt been a former Presidential appointee?
      Some of us may age but so do better wines.
      
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      April 16, 2021 1:45pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Depends on how hard Biden pushes Vlad. In terms of world affairs Joe holds a pair of 2’s versus Vlad’s full house.
  
  With Germany dependent on Russian energy will the old coot rush into a war with no near allies on the continent?
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:46am
  - kowtow
    
    Weird world we live in .
    
    Germany had nuclear and millenia of coal .
    
    But in order to “go clean” they’ve become dependant on Ivan.
    
    Go figure.
    
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    April 16, 2021 8:54am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Joe won’t be rushing into anything but a bathroom. His handlers though might have second thoughts about getting too involved.
    
    Surely they’ve already milked Ukraine for about as much graft as they can safely handle so don’t need to keep supporting the neo-Nazi’s in charge for much longer.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:16am
    - Batman
      
      I thought Trump was a big supporter of Ukraine? His fans were very proud he was sending Stinger missiles etc.
      
      Suddenly they’re now Neo-Nazis? Colour me unsurprised.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:03am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        They’ll probably be upset about the Yanks leaving Afghanistan too…
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:16am
      - Ed Snack
        
        The Ukrainians do indeed have a significant neo-Nazi element that supports the government. This current trouble is just the same old State Department hacks from the Obama years trying to stir up more trouble so as to keep Ukraine as a prime source of graft.
        
        You should read more widely and not just take the lies put about by the MSM as gospel.
        
        Oh, and just for Mikey, don’t you remember, Trump already wanted to exit Afghanistan as early as 2019. One of the main reasons that the fake “Russian Bounty” story was spread in the media was to undermine that movement. And that’s why the original story gets exposed for the lie (and one you supported) that it always was – because now the withdrawal is (nominally) Biden’s idea, can’t have inconvenient fake stories getting in the way any more.
        
        Those sort of tactics work well with gullible sheep like you and Batman.
        
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        April 16, 2021 6:23pm
I remember when

The problems of orchard owners getting their fruit picked have received media attention this year.
HB apple grower and Yummy Fruit Company owner, Paul Paynter, has been pulling up trees and dropping orchard leases, faced with labour picking problems.
Mid harvest, Paynter was short about 140 pickers and was losing more every week.
He estimated the region was short about 13,000 workers to complete the apple harvest, at a cost to the regional economy of $100 million.
Government initiatives to attract Kiwis had not proven effective.
Overall HB growers were probably getting 70% of the potential: the remaining 30% would either be left on trees or used in juice or food processing, with little return.
While this year has been exceptional there has always been some degree of above problems every year.
Backpacking facilities often have ties with orchards or vineyards, arranging pickers during the season.
No backpackers – bigger problem.
The removal of trees and vines is also relatively frequent, often because of changes in the market meaning varieties lose market share.
Who remembers Red Delicious now.
Or the chardonnay oversupply.
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April 16, 2021 8:29am
- kowtow
  
  How many people on the dole in HB , ready for employment ?
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:51am
- Tall Man
  
  Pick fruit or … sit on the couch, collect “welfare” , sell a bit of P, do a little petty theft, hey, life’s great eh boyz…..
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:19am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Time to get robots for fruit picking. I seldom endorse machines over people but this is one such job where the task is largely mechanical and physically hard on the hand pickers. Work is still there in managing the harvest.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:41am
  - MCos
    
    “I seldom endorse machines over people”
    There are no people.
    And in the past, it seems, the people were cheap temporary foreign workers.
    Of these some were back packers who I expect spent the money here thus helping the local economy.
    Others are from the islands who send the money back home thus helping those economies.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:23am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I know. I have recently seen robot fruit harvesting demoed (see below). The fruit were eyeballed and AI determined their condition and picked each one separately with the attention and care required.
      
      By comparison to the waste it would be a suitable use of Govt funding to industry groups to avoid these labour shortages. The yearly shortages have always been with us and relying on other countries puts NZ at risk. We produce fruit crops well–we shouldn’t be uncertain we can harvest them. Some trade harvesting co-operatives may solve that problem.
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/spotlight/fresh-fruit-picked-from-the-tree-by-israeli-robots/
      
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      April 16, 2021 1:58pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….. Jeepers!!

CNN Director admits something we all knew –
BLACK GOOD / WHITE BAD

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1382731553432813569
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April 16, 2021 8:36am
- Maggie Pie
  
  WHOOPSIE @jack has already taken down undercover Vid
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:52am
- SB2
  
  Can we safely assert that for you and the Remmers Gals Black Bad and White Good?
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:07am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Nope – we’re all REAL bad-ass 😛
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:34am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, CNN are being rubbished after the Veristas videos came to light. Even some MSM have got hold of the story and each day something more is exposed. I doubt even Zucker can save it now as CNN was already heading for the pits.
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:09am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Exactly right I&O! And twits is humming at the moment…..
    
    https://twitter.com/DogeVerde/status/1382790184589258754
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:38am
RockyJ

Jacinda has announced that New Zealand will be donating 800,000 vaccine doses to the Pacific islands via the COVAX facility.
Bad luck Pacific. You will be waiting a long, long time.
Just shows that for our PM grandstanding to her international buddies is of greater importance than the lives of our citizens.
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April 16, 2021 8:36am
- Bloody Dago
  
  Jacinda has become an enemy of the NZ people. It needs some millennials to shame and ridicule this shameless and incompetent despot. This Lithuanian woman has no doubts about what communism is:
  https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/04/14/better-dead-than-red-ufcs-rose-namajunas-defends-anti-communist-comments-ahead-of-zhang-weili-fight/
  Wake up New Zealanders, your country is being hijacked by the NZ Labour Party and numerous left wing global entities.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:06am
- Tall Man
  
  More smug virtue signalling crap.
  
  Can’t sort it at home so “pretend” to the UN she can do it everywhere else.
  
  Still as Sir Cullen will say, the sheeple will lap it up.
  
  Expect martin and steffy to talk up the wonder of it all……
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:15am
- kowtow
  
  Meanwhile no beds for New Zealand children in Starship.
  
  But the Teddy Bear cultist swing voter doesn’t care, they’ve been saved .
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:25am
- sooty
  
  Cindy ordered two or three different vacines and they get the ones we don’t want! On a take it òr leave it bases!
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:00am
- Frank the tank
  
  No silly it’s us that will be waiting a long time. Just like the criminals in jail these foreign nationals will get the jab before you and me.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:24am
- virtualmark
  
  We have millions of doses of J&J, Novavax and AstraZeneca vaccines on order but that we won’t use. They are due for delivery from June onwards. I expect they will all end up being donated to Covax.
  
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  April 16, 2021 3:42pm
kowtow

Simon Wilson hagiographic on Creepy Joe saving the world .

“This story is part of the Herald’s contribution to Covering Climate Now , an international campaign by more than 400 media orgs , which this week highlights our responses to climate change ahead of a US led world leaders’ summit on April 22”

I hope none of these 400 Media Party organisations get off running stories on how expensive power has become or how many people suffer from energy poverty or how people are going hungry cos food producing land is being “sequestered” into trees to assuage white priveliged reporters guilt over their carbon footprints……..
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April 16, 2021 8:37am
- RockyJ
  
  And it’s all supported by faulty science. Meanwhile it has been snowing in Brighton and French farmers are demanding compensation for failed spring crops due to the cold.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:09am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Mods, description is in the link OK?
https://theinformedamerican.net/sheriffs-all-over-usa-just-told-biden-he-better-finish-the-job/?
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April 16, 2021 8:40am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://leadpatriot.com/former-green-beret-on-bidens-withdrawal-in-afghanistan-they-intend-to-hit-us-again/11476/
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April 16, 2021 8:42am
kowtow

I doubt Paddy Glower will be busting a gut to cover this , I suspect from his POV it’d be the wrong type of racism .

‘Mrs Wilson, who was born in Thailand and moved to Balclutha in 2016, said she had suffered repeated incidents of trespassing on her property, including verbal threats, objects thrown at her and racial abuse.’

Or whether Woke Comish will be calling for a special report from his Boys in Blue

‘She said the officer had told her police knew the likely perpetrators, but were unable to charge them due to their young age.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-otago/residents-angry-fearful-amid-alleged-youth-crimes
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April 16, 2021 8:47am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Hunter Biden is a walking joke. Smokes cheese?
https://redrightdaily.com/hunter-biden-loses-his-mind-during-ridiculous-attack-on-trumps-children-do-you-think-if-any-of-the-trump-children-ever/
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April 16, 2021 8:49am
Observer of Life

So I see Cindy has now promised 800,000 jabs to ‘poor nations’ … yet our country isn’t anywhere near being vaccinated. F#CK me she is truly a show pony.
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April 16, 2021 8:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Not her money, why would she not do this for votes?
  
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  April 16, 2021 4:03pm
cas

Wow I just read that after delaying rolling out their vaccines to make sure the time was auspicious, Bhutan has administered the first dose of vaccine to 93% of its population in two weeks. And I heard David Parker on the AM show this am saying that if NZ ramped it up early it would have to have ramped it down later owing to not enough vaccines. I am not sure, living in a rural area, where I will have to go to get mine but at least I get the flu vaccine on Monday
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April 16, 2021 8:54am
Maggy Wassilieff

For those with greater knowhow on Maori Grammar and Translation protocols than I have:

This blending of a Maori verb (whakapapa) with an English tense ending (s) looks odd…..

He whakapapas to Ngāti Maniapoto and Ngāti Mahuta.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018791798/maori-academics-pulling-double-duty-as-unofficial-cultural-advisors

(at first I read the He as the Maori indefinite article… then realised the sentence was a muddle of Maori and English)
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April 16, 2021 9:00am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Not uncommon. I’m enjoying using the new maoringlish with its enhanced opportunities for pidgin. Maori was never developed because it didn’t have the capacity to absorb and use all the foreign root words needed in the 20th c. Samoa has a singularly mono-cultural society and has managed the modernisation by formally creating new words and by teaching English as well.
  
  The shift of the Polynesian languages at the common level to using English grammar patterns has been going on for 50 years. Even our TV has done that from time to time.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:53am
  - Frank the tank
    
    I must admit I struggle to contain my laughter when white journalists pass a kidney stone each time they utter some pidgin English nowadays.
    
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    April 16, 2021 10:27am
- Inandout
  
  The Aussies would soon shorten that scripted diatribe to something like ‘Ngahoot’.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:35am
  - oldfella
    
    Inandout: The Aussies will mock us for speaking ‘Nahoody’ (ryhmes with ‘beaudy’).
    
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    April 16, 2021 12:24pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Nowt?
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:01pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  It is just crap writing too.
  There is no ‘s’ in Maori.
  Either:
  “His whakapapa includes Maniapoto…” etc.
  or “His family tree/tribal affiliation/ancestry includes Maniapoto…” etc.
  
  Manages to mangle Maori and English in one!
  There are plenty enough words to cover the concept of whakapapa in English in any case.
  Woke point however, under the current fashion.
  Looking stupid, but for the best possible reasons.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:37am
Maggie Pie

WOW!! What did they give this guy – Heroin? 😀

https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1382330390631882758
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April 16, 2021 9:00am
- Tall Man
  
  Aww Maggie, he got ‘hugz”…..
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:34am
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Government is very coy over its dealings with the Military Might of the USA and Rocket Lab launches at Mahia Peninsula

(a long read)

https://northandsouth.co.nz/2021/03/14/rocket-lab-military/
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April 16, 2021 9:08am
- Jack5
  
  Can’t get away from US military technology.
  
  Does anyone not use GPS, set up for the American military and now run by the United States Space Force, one of America’s eight uniformed military services?
  
  The internet grew out of the work and networks of Arpanet, of the United States Department of Defense.
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:24pm
- virtualmark
  
  Shrug.
  
  We implicitly rely heavily on the US military for our national security. This is part of paying the bill. And, frankly, it’s a very cheap price to pay for what we benefit from.
  
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  April 16, 2021 3:44pm
I remember when

One Plan change gets the tick:
Hundreds of farmers ad vegetable growers, who have operated without resource consents, now have proposed fix given tick by commissioners.
Horizons Regional Council will meet on Tuesday to consider recommendations on changing the One Plan.
The section on nitrate management has been a bugbear.
A court ruling left many farmers without a way to get resource consent.
Horizons said 178 farmers, mostly vegetable growers in Horowhenua and dairy farmers in Tararua, were unable to get consents.
However the agenda for Tuesday’s meeting, put the number at 245, including all but one of the 50 vegetable growers in the region.
Not making changes would result in these farms having to close, costing the economy millions of dollars and the loss of hundreds of jobs.
Growers said their land use, especially rotational cropping, meant they were judged differently.
However, consents may only last 10 years.
So within the next ten years we may have to come up with ways to allow market gardening to continue to exist.
Is this largely because of flows into Lake Horowhenua, or, is it a nation-wide problem.
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April 16, 2021 9:09am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Short sighted pollies?
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:03pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Why the hell does anyone need a consent to farm?
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:23pm
Jack5

Hooton hooting …

In the Herald, political PR and plotter, Matthew Hooton pretty much gives National leaders C or C minus, but subtly praises two MPs:

” … Nicola Willis’ solid housing policy and Chris Bishop’s damning revelations about the Government’s Covid-testing regime for front-line workers.

Plot, plot, stir, stir … not so much mutter, mutter though, as scribble, scribble.

Thank goodness ACT, our Carpathia with Captain Seymour, is standing by to pick up survivors from our little political Titanic.

National, however, is foundering not from scraping an iceberg but from mutiny and raging ego fever paralysing the crew.
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April 16, 2021 9:13am
- KevO'Brien
  
  More likely from the Mathew Hooters of fake stirring fame.
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:04pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Hooten is a self-serving Judas afaics.
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:26pm
    - curry4me
      
      Alan Wilkinson: Yeah, I never read his stuff. Nor do I take it seriously.
      
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      April 16, 2021 3:02pm
plc

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/124823659/taranaki-te-ao-mori-advocates-disappointed-with-mcdonalds-over-continued-use-of-naki-packaging

Do any people of English descent feel threatened or disrespected by the First People’s abbreviation of the words “cousin” or “brother”?

Please tell Stuff and they will create an article….yeah, right
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April 16, 2021 9:18am
- graham
  
  Well said plc.
  
  For such a might warrior race, they don’t half get offended easily, do they?
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:54am
- oldfella
  
  Is Mt Egmont still in The ‘Naki? /s
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:29pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just asked thru his teeth….

“Where is this country heading FFS! How long before we see Ricardo accompanying Jacinda in an attempt to infiltrate Primary Schools as well?”

https://twitter.com/RMarchNZ/status/1380371611593760769
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April 16, 2021 9:19am
- Tall Man
  
  I think Israel Folau would agree with the comment in the middle of the placard ……..
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:33am
- Martin Williams
  
  Tell your partner a huge majority of Kiwis think the country is heading in the right direction.
  
  http://www.roymorgan.com/morganpoll/new-zealand/nz-government-confidence
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:43am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You don’t have to answer this of course Marty – but are you GAY?
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:09am
    - Martin Williams
      
      Great At Yodelling? Certainly am.
      
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      April 16, 2021 11:13am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Don’t forget… ‘explaining is losing’ 😛
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:44am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Groovy at Yoga?
        
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        April 16, 2021 11:49am
      - oldfella
        
        What they called on The Crown, ‘A friend of Dorothy’? That kind of yodeler?
        
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        April 16, 2021 12:31pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    You gotta be joking.
    Polls are b. worthless now.
    The only good poll is one showing Ardern zero.
    She has past her use by date.
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:08pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Like lemmings.
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:27pm
- Philview
  
  I had a look at your link and read a comment that the average landlord makes more in a month than a person working full time on minimum wage earns in a year. A quick calculation that a 40 hour week would generate $41, 000 a year. I know plenty of landlords and I don’t know any average landlords earning $41,000 a month in my part of the country.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:17am
- I remember when
  
  Yes. On the BBC last night I viewed David Attenborough explaining how the climate knowledge of the young climate protesters greatly exceeded that of their parents and adults.
  Not sure which ‘pole’ he used to measure this fact.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:26am
  - Bob
    
    Parker’s comment was politic speak for ” we haven’t actually ordered sufficient vaccine, as Robertson and Adern had already spent the few funds left, on vote buying,” and it is still 2 1/2 years to the election!
    
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    April 16, 2021 11:49am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Someone needs to ‘queer eye for those queer guys’, because those mucky & crude signs do NOT look fabulous.
  
  Pretty neat to shoehorn in your gayness and concerns around climate change onto the one protest though.
  Efficient use of time and materials for those that are outraged about more than one thing, but can’t fit in all their bitching into a busy schedule.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:44am
- Paulus
  
  Ricardo can’t infiltrate Primary Schools – Maori are doing that already by writing a History curriculum for 27 schools in BOP.
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:10am
  - oldfella
    
    Paulus, will the curriculum have a chapter on the flourishing Maori LGBTQ+ community Captain Cook discovered when he landed here? Probably all vegans, as well, who refused to eat their enemies.
    
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    April 16, 2021 12:35pm
Tony Stuart

There’s long been a convention that Ministers of Police do not comment on operational Police issues. So why did Poto Williams yesterday tell media that the firearms incident at the Sofitel Hotel yesterday involved the Headhunters and the Mongols?

Police told Newshub there were “unsure how Williams got the information, but it didn’t come from then”, so was the Minister of Police repeating gossip or rumours? And does she not realise that such injudicious comments run the risk of prejudicing a future prosecution?

That Poto Williams is even a Minister, let alone one with a portfolio as significant as Police, is an indictment on the level of talent in the Labour Party caucus.
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April 16, 2021 9:23am
- plc
  
  The takeaway from this is that for future reference “The Minister of Police does comment on operational matters”.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:26am
- Tall Man
  
  Talent … labour party caucus = oxymoron.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:28am
- Biscuit
  
  Aw, Tony, be fair…
  
  By the time Labour had filled the Speaker’s role with that wonderful Trevor Mallard there was only dross left to pick from for the Cabinet portfolios!
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:37am
- Martin Williams
  
  Probably to highlight the growing cancer being exported from Australia in the form of organised crime.
  
  Australia is carcinogenic.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:39am
  - Jack5
    
    Australia is sending New Zealand criminals home.
    
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    April 16, 2021 12:03pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Why’s martin whining? They’re labour through and through…….
      
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      April 16, 2021 2:28pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      Not so. They are Australian criminals who happen to have been born in New Zealand.
      
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      April 16, 2021 3:27pm
      - Nickc2
        
        BOLLOX! They are not in receipt of Aust Passports.
        
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        April 16, 2021 8:54pm
- Bob
  
  That Poto Williams is even a Minister… is an indictment on the level of intelligence of the Northland voters. Then this also applies to a significant number of other electorates voters.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:46am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    She’s not from Northland, she’s from Christchurch, but the point is made!
    
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    April 16, 2021 12:40pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Poto Williams is unfortunately from Christchurch. She’s a burden we have to bear.
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:11pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  That Poto Williams is a Minister is an indictment of the Govt., but then, most of the “Ministers” are her grade or less.
  
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  April 16, 2021 9:56am
- Philview
  
  This was a major story during the day yesterday but don’t recall it getting a mention on the TVNZ 6 pm News last night. I had assumed it would be the lead story. TVNZ of course had a major story on Jacinda visiting a school and surrounded by children. If the Government didn’t want the hotel story shown on state media I have to wonder why.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:05am
surfing

Russ Rimmington in the news again, the guy is a real entitled piece of work…..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ratepayers-fund-waikato-regional-council-chairs-feel-good-gifts-at-train-launch/3N53M6L5RD4VJGFAF6G7EOYJ2Y/

Rimmington said he wanted to give the framed print to acknowledge the people who had given five years of service to get the project off the ground.

Rimmington makes it sound like people did this work for free. I also worked hard in my job, and went beyond what is needed at times. But, did I get a framed picture? No.
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April 16, 2021 9:39am
Ruahine

Cactus Kate writing the truth again about Labours ‘friends’.

https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2021/04/potos-popo-letting-gangs-now-shoot-up.html
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April 16, 2021 9:40am
Gravelroad

“Breaking News, Breaking News” Lol
Was driving along just now with radio turned down as didn’t want to hear about the wrong doings of farmers when suddenly there was a “Breaking news” alert.
Turned it up.
The government, aka Grant Robertson, is going to have a review of the greyhound racing industry.
Even Kerre McIvor’s voice was shaking with mirth as she read it out.
That’s what $millions bribe money buys you in the sodastream media these days.
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April 16, 2021 9:43am
- sooty
  
  Oh dear, all the koha paid to whiney is coming back to bite his arse!
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:06am
KevO'Brien

Anyone for COVID “vaccine”?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/latest-vaccine-flip-flop-gives-vaccine-game-away/5742040

Aren’t we protected from govt’s experimenting on their people? (Nuremberg Code)

Henry Kissinger was advocating depopulation as a way of grabbing African resources.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/reflections-secret-agenda-elite-role-us-citizens/5709112
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April 16, 2021 10:04am
- SB2
  
  I’ve had my two jabs last month and things are going just fine.
  
  “The best proof is experience”
  
  Francis Bacon.
  
  Global Research Kremlin-based is utter BS.
  
  https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/russian-disinformation-global-research-website-1.5767208
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:19am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Well, they might be able to pick you out in crowd by RFID.
    Who knows what is in those “vaccines”?
    They haven’t passed testing yet.
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:14pm
    - SB2
      
      They’ve been thoroughly testing and evaluated.
      
      No surprises’: 53-page FDA report reinforces safety and effectiveness of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine candidate
      
      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/12/08/pfizer-vaccine-evaluation-fda-immunization-safe-effective/3860002001/
      
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      April 16, 2021 2:44pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        It’s still only experimental grade.
        
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        April 16, 2021 4:58pm
I remember when

Brazil is now number 12 for the number of covid deaths per million.
If we take Worldometer figures (yes totally unreliable) for covid cases per million they almost disappear off the charts.
Incidentally, of the 7 countries quoted yesterday as having most deaths per 100,000 on KB only Iran isn’t in the top 15, for covid deaths per million.
So if you usually have high death rates you have high covid death rates.
Remarkable.
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April 16, 2021 10:15am
Ed Snack

Golly, who wants to remember their support for the story about the Russians placing bounties on US troops in Afghanistan ?

Now admitted to be a pure propaganda story intended to hit at Trump. Pushed by quite a few on here as I recall including our esteemed host. Funny how the story comes out now Creepy Joe is talking of withdrawing from Afghanistan, can’t have something reflecting badly on him now can we.

Would Pravda in its heyday have been quite so dishonest as the mainstream US media is today ?
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April 16, 2021 10:22am
- Batman
  
  Got a link or proof? Interesting news if true.
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:56am
- virtualmark
  
  The US intelligence community learned about the “bounty” programme from interviews with captured Taliban.
  
  But they haven’t been able to find any documentary proof. Maybe because the Russian intelligence agencies aren’t stupid and wouldn’t write a casus belli down on paper.
  
  So for now at least it’s taken as a likely-but-not-proven situation.
  
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  April 16, 2021 3:47pm
MCos

One of the people attending the funeral of Prince Phillip is listed as the Countess Mountbatten of Burma.
Her real name is Mrs Penelope Knatchbull.
Why do these people have such farcical titles?
There is no Burma anymore & Myanmar is not in the Commonwealth.
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April 16, 2021 10:44am
- plc
  
  One of Philip’s “special” friends…….
  
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  April 16, 2021 10:56am
- SB2
  
  A living human fossil.
  
  Incredible!
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:09am
- mikenmildagain
  
  They still have an Earl Alexander of Tunis, while the current Duke of Wellington is also Prince of Waterloo (Belgium), Duke of Victoria (Portugal), Duke of Ciduad Rodrigo (Spain), and Earl of Mornington (Ireland).
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:33am
- rangitoto
  
  I recall in one of the Flashman books that Flashman thought he would style himself “Lord Flash of Lightning” if he was ever appointed to the House of Lords.
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:14pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Lord Flashheart:
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Lord+Flashheart&&view=detail&mid=6F9F8F3F2B0206BDAD1E6F9F8F3F2B0206BDAD1E&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DLord%2BFlashheart%26FORM%3DHDRSC4
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:55pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/124858377/stuff-partners-with-substack-on-local-newsletter-experiment

They are going to call the new entity “The Sub-Standard”.
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April 16, 2021 10:44am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING NOW…

COPA release body-cam footage of police shooting 13 year old ‘boy’ (read armed gang-member).

Ask Chicago to….. “Remain Calm”.

Fat chance of that!

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1382795685825744901
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April 16, 2021 10:48am
- SB2
  
  Police collateral damage as gossed and agreed and sniggered at Remuera Rackets?
  
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  April 16, 2021 11:15am
SB2

Surely a time of shared rejoicing,

Trans-Tasman bubble: ‘Tens of thousands’ due to fly on first day of quarantine-free travel

New Zealand airports are preparing to throw open the gates on Monday to quarantine-free arrivals from Australia for the first time in more than a year.
The travel bubble officially begins at 11.59pm on Sunday, with Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announcing the date last week, expressing confidence in the ability of Australia and New Zealand to manage the travel arrangement.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/440589/trans-tasman-bubble-tens-of-thousands-due-to-fly-on-first-day-of-quarantine-free-travel
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April 16, 2021 11:06am
Martin Williams

Another high risk offender kept in prison by Labour:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/mother-of-kylie-smith-says-killer-has-shown-no-remorse-in-30-years/M4Z5FOQWKQ7OOUYVXREAZPJ5QA/

Keeping communities safe.
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April 16, 2021 11:06am
- Yabster
  
  one out of 100’s well done Labour- not- your getting desperate if you promoting that as an achievement.
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:31pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Bullshit Martin. He was kept in prison, and quite rightly so, by the Parole Board, which is completely independent of whoever is in government, by statute.
  
  https://www.paroleboard.govt.nz/about_us
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:43pm
  - SB2
    
    Tony Stuart , correct and it would be no different under National.
    
    Or..?
    
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    April 16, 2021 2:33pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Can we keep communities safe from Labour MP’s too?
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

NZ Herald and Newsroom running stories today about ructions in National Caucus.

What foul-ups of this Current Government need deflecting today?

Could it be their involvement in sale of military hardware to dastardly regimes?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/exclusive-nz-companies-exporting-military-equipment-countries-accused-human-rights-violations

I notice that the item on TV one News last night noting the involvement of the Head of the PM’s Department -Dr Brook Barrington – in this matter has disappeared from their site.
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April 16, 2021 11:56am
- sooty
  
  Running for cover, maybe?
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:42pm
- oldfella
  
  Maggie, the TVOne 6pm news item from last night will still be part of the bulletin which will be up on TVNZOnDemand.
  It’s at times like this I miss Paul Holmes. He would have been Cindy’s worst nightmare, assuming she’d even have turned up to face a grilling on live, primetime, TV.
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:58pm
- SB2
  
  MW, I sesne that would make little impression with Joe and Jane voting public .
  
  And as if it would be any different under National or ACT
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:35pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Still stalking my posts SB2
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:43pm
plc

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new-zealand-origin-incest-colt-clan-new-details-emerge-of-depraved-patriarch/QEFKZYQRVXEMGZT4JH75WG3CWM/

Absolutely horrific story in Herald…and we are likely to see a new influx of 501s

After the victims, the person I really feel sorry for was the person in the inquiry incident room who had to link all the relationships together through photos and string
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April 16, 2021 11:57am
- sooty
  
  They are all arriving on deportee flight from Australia shortly?
  
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  April 16, 2021 12:40pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Goodness…wonder if the patriarch was Mexican?
  
  He’s wearing one of those same ‘Bolo Ties’ like Ricardo does.
  
  Asking for a friend.
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:25pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  In the UK they are places called “The Sink Estates” where the people in the lower socio economic classes live.
  
  There the kids sleep with each other from an early age and of course children are born. However it is extremely unlikely that the Mother knows who the Father is. Therefore as the children get older and the cycle continues you could have brothers having children with sisters.
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:30pm
Fletch

You won’t read this in any of the U.S media – not on CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post, etc. It takes an English newspaper to report it.

Daunte Wright, the black man who a female police officer shot by accident, was not pulled over by the police for nothing. He was originally pulled over for expired license plates. Then when they ran the plates it turned out he had a warrant out for his arrest for aggravated robbery (choking and holding a woman at gunpoint for $820 in 2019) and he also possessed a gun without a permit. When they tried to cuff and arrest him he struggled, broke free, and made to get back into his car. Was he going for a gun? The officers knew he had a gun without a permit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467375/Daunte-Wright-warrant-arrest-attempted-aggravated-robbery-charges.html

The female officer has now been charged with second degree manslaughter which is ridiculous. It was nothing of the sort.
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April 16, 2021 1:28pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  A police office who mistakes a firearm for a taser is a menace. A level of incompetence at a criminal level, surely.
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:57pm
  - I remember when
    
    Perhaps it highlights the dangers of having to switch tasks unexpectedly.
    The story I heard was that she was on a training assignment at the time she became involved.
    On the news item she seems to have intended to taser him as she says words to that effect.
    However, both of the cases involved the dead man failing to follow orders.
    In both cases, it was probably an attempt to hide a crime.
    If both men had followed police instructions it is unlikely either would now be dead.
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Taser my left tit. That is a diversion. The prick was shot (and rightly so) because he was going for a gun.
    Even the Police higher ups bullshit to cover up.
    Notice one thing Mike – the Police do not arrest or shoot at me. Why? Because I am not an arsehole
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:46pm
  - Fletch
    
    Let’s see you make the right decision when it looks like someone may be going for a gun and you have seconds to react. Easy to judge sitting in front of your computer in your easy chair…
    
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    April 16, 2021 4:21pm
    - Batman
      
      So your argument is that police officers are nervous nellies who don’t take on board their training and are basically trigger happy?
      
      Sounds great…
      
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      April 16, 2021 5:42pm
      - Fletch
        
        Watch what happens when an activist protester takes part in a police training scenario against a suspect. You think you could do better?
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g
        
        And yes, the female officer involved in the shooting had 25 years experience.
        
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        April 16, 2021 6:17pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Only one in four US police officers have ever used their gun to actually shoot someone. It is not something that you can practice.
  
  It is easy to say she should have calmly decided to pull out the taser but if it was me I would be so scared that anything could have happened.
  
  You have to try to put yourself in her shoes and honestly ask yourself if you could act clearly in such a stressful situation.
  
  Sorry the guy is dead but rather him than the police officer.
  
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  April 16, 2021 3:13pm
- Bluegrass
  
  It has been reported in the US media (I live in the States).
  
  But not in US left wing media – as you noted.
  
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  April 16, 2021 4:28pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum and a few of the other gals from the Village went out in the van this morning to drop off some of their last seasons garments for those less fortunate oldies living in Rest Homes out West.

She was just telling me they couldn’t help but wonder if anyone in Mt Roskill actually owns a lawnmower? Reckons all the Berms out that way are at least a meter high! 🙁
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April 16, 2021 2:16pm
- SB2
  
  Berms Mt Roskill ? Get of your butt for a change and see for yourself.
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:37pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Next time you take a bus over our way, check out the Verges.
    Anyone who doesn’t mow theirs at least once a fortnite can expect a visit from Neighborhood Watch.
    
    It’s an absolute disgrace the way certain parts of Auckland have become.
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:25pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Ask the PM.
  
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  April 16, 2021 5:01pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Government finally allows Covid-19 saliva testing…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-coronavirus-less-invasive-saliva-testing-to-help-save-border-workers-nostrils/K3E3B6F5U63RJ65M766K4S3HSY/

months after it was recommended by Prof Michael Baker.
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April 16, 2021 2:29pm
- SB2
  
  MW, but he believes we are doing most things right like here,
  
  Professor Michael Baker hails COVID-19 elimination strategy as UK looks to mimic New Zealand’s quarantine system almost a year on
  
  Epidemiologist Michael Baker has talked up the Government’s elimination strategy, as Britain looks to mimic New Zealand’s managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) system almost a year on.
  
  Professor Baker, an infectious diseases expert at Otago University’s Department of Public Health, has become a household name in New Zealand after providing frequent commentary on the Government’s COVID-19 response.
  
  He told the UK’s Channel 4 News about the success of New Zealand’s elimination strategy and the tools used to wipe out community cases, in the wake of Britain considering similar measures to help bring down spiralling case numbers.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/01/professor-michael-baker-hails-elimination-strategy-as-uk-looks-to-mimic-new-zealand-s-quarantine-system-almost-a-year-on.html
  
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  April 16, 2021 2:41pm
  - I remember when
    
    Their vaccination programme on 13 April, 48.5% at least one dose, 12.3% fully vaccinated and over 6% have had covid.
    Perhaps we could swap our elimination programme for their vaccination outcomes.
    
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    April 16, 2021 3:28pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes SB2..
    and you’re a year behind the game.
    
    Remember when you were telling everyone on KB we shouldn’t be following the highly speculative and emotive opinions of Professor Michael Baker, but should tune in to the view of a British virologist:
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/03/general_debate_1_march_2020.html#comment-2652168
    
    How’s UK doing in the Covid-19 stakes?
    
    Here’s a wee hint: You are singularly ill-informed on many matters.
    
    Instead of wasting everyone’s time with your creepy nonsense stalking my posts… take some time off and READ, READ, READ.
    
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    April 16, 2021 5:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The ‘Swamp’ did not get drained, but the water is now low enough for the World to see all of the hideous creatures that have been hiding in there.
Disgusting fucking Democrats
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April 16, 2021 3:17pm
- Batman
  
  Jesus Christ Steve, that invective is unhealthy. Go have a walk and a beer or something, it’s Friday afternoon.
  
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  April 16, 2021 3:59pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    How about some Crown Royal? Had my walk and a beer
    
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    April 16, 2021 4:04pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Perhaps you should try a soothing cup of tea instead. You seem to get a bit wound up in the late afternoon.
      https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/94/78/a29478fd4005a8ec7625e0751dc81043–herbal-teas-benefits-of.jpg
      
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      April 16, 2021 4:28pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Mike, I work at 69 years old because I like to work.
        I enjoy doing 4 days a week.
        Go fuck yourself, and troll someone else
        
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        April 16, 2021 5:57pm
    - Batman
      
      Fair enough, a lie down as well perhaps.
      
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      April 16, 2021 5:38pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Batman, I will still be in my Spa at 11 pm.
        You do nightshift, so I will see your comments about 2pm tomorrow?
        
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        April 16, 2021 6:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Btw, the only unhealthy thing is the Democrats themselves. Joe got 80M votes my left tit
    
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    April 16, 2021 4:06pm
    - Batman
      
      Well then I’m sure you’ll be eager for 2024 to see what happens then against Nikki Haley!
      
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      April 16, 2021 5:39pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Nikki said she will not run in 2024 if Trump runs. They are both on the same page
        
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        April 17, 2021 8:38am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    If only it was always just the Democrats:
    https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/rep-rick-roeber-of-lees-summit-resigns-from-missouri-house
    
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    April 16, 2021 4:43pm
I remember when

Wrestling legend (at least in New Zealand) John da Silva has died aged 86.
In 1994 he was awarded New Zealand’s Queen’s Service Medal for his work with at-risk youth.
John represented New Zealand at wrestling in the Melbourne Olympic and Cardiff British Empire Games, before becoming ‘one of the better professional wrestlers of his day.’
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April 16, 2021 3:19pm
- MCos
  
  I remember risking our lives every week at the seismically unstable Wellington Town Hall watching John da Silva, Steve Rickard, and a bunch of other colourful characters.
  One of the baddies was Hawaiian King Curtis who died about ten years ago. I heard him speak at a sports function and he was particularly articulate for such an ugly great lump of a bloke.
  He finished by saying ‘When you go home tonight don’t tell your kids I’m a really a nice guy!’
  
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  April 16, 2021 5:57pm
MCos

Covid the Leveler https://www.thaienquirer.com/26422/opinion-blame-the-rot-in-thai-high-society-for-the-third-wave-of-the-pandemic/
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April 16, 2021 3:23pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://babylonbee.com/news/minneapolis-target-holds-semi-annual-everything-is-free-sale?
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April 16, 2021 3:27pm
Batman

Oh deary me… It looks like the truth is coming out now that there’s a change in administration. The Russia tale lives on, much to the disappointment of those who said it was a hoax!

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126
“Konstantin Kilimnik (Kilimnik) is a Russian and Ukrainian political consultant and known Russian Intelligence Services agent implementing influence operations on their behalf. During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy. Additionally, Kilimnik sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. In 2018, Kilimnik was indicted on charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice regarding unregistered lobbying work. Kilimnik has also sought to assist designated former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. At Yanukovych’s direction, Kilimnik sought to institute a plan that would return Yanukovych to power in Ukraine. ”

Big oooof, as the young kids say!
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April 16, 2021 4:02pm
- BananaLlama
  
  Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) took sweeping action against 16 entities and 16 individuals who attempted to influence the 2020 U.S. presidential election at the direction of the leadership of the Russian Government.
  
  Joe Biden elected by Putin.
  
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  April 16, 2021 4:16pm
  - Batman
    
    Lol what? I thought it was the evil Dems and Hugo Chavez? Oh and George Soros (because there always has to be a Jew scapegoat to blame)
    
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    April 16, 2021 5:27pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      lol did you not read your source?
      
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      April 16, 2021 5:59pm
- Inandout
  
  Bat, how is the Biden sleeze hard drive case going? Is CNN still smarting over the words uttered by one of their bosses?
  
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  April 16, 2021 8:09pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Jim Jordan shafting Fauci. Fauci is a blowhard con artist.
https://rumble.com/vfpaq1-when-is-it-going-to-end-jim-jordan-destroys-dr.-fauci.html?
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April 16, 2021 4:12pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why the downtick? Jordan is representing those who voted him in – unlike the NZ socialists
  
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  April 16, 2021 4:20pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Oh. do you mean ‘Gym’ Jordan?
  
  Jordan was an assistant coach at Ohio State University from 1986 to 1994. From 1979 to 1996 the official athletics doctor, Richard Strauss, sexually abused 177 male athletes. Strauss’ behavior was openly discussed by athletes in front of coaching staff, but it was not reported to officials until well-after Strauss’s tenure at OSU. A report from the investigation into the abuse found that “did not identify any contemporaneous documentary evidence that members of the OSU coaching staff, including head coaches or assistant coaches, received or were aware of complaints regarding Strauss sexual misconduct.” But the report also stated that 22 coaches “confirmed to the Investigative Team they were aware of rumors and/or complaints about Strauss, dating back to the late 1970s and extending into the mid-1990s.”
  
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  April 16, 2021 4:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Batman, I will still be in my Spa at 11 pm.
You do nightshift, so I will see your comments about 2pm tomorrow?
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April 16, 2021 6:03pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/124866445/nzme-under-investigation-for-potential-listing-rule-breaches
Peter Cullinane was a dodgy character in Wellington in the mid/late 1970’s when he was boss of Trilogy Business Systems.
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April 16, 2021 6:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Uh oh….
The Warehouse heading for more redundancies.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/124867811/the-warehouse-staff-called-to-meetings-amid-redundancy-rumours

Doesn’t look like a booming economy on the horizon.
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April 16, 2021 7:27pm
- Fletch
  
  I don’t know if I will be going there as often anyway, as they will no longer be selling DVDs, blurays, CDs, vinyl, etc. That was pretty much the main reason I shopped there…
  
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  April 16, 2021 7:35pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Holey moley,..
Av. House price in Gisborne ha s risen by $228,000 in one year.
http://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/local-news/20210416/house-prices-soar/

Seven years ago when we shifted here, you could have bought most houses in Kaiti for $228,000.
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April 16, 2021 7:36pm
Wired-one

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/covid-19-govt-s-failure-to-analyse-border-worker-testing-data-until-two-weeks-ago-worrying-incompetent-chris-bishop.html

Great timing to put this out ?
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