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Tony Stuart

What a train-wreck of an interview from Chris Hipkins last night with Heather du Plessis Allan. His defence of the PM was lame at best, and at times cringeworthy. If anything, he’s just dug the PM deeper into the hole she created for herself.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/chris-hipkins-defends-governments-stance-on-kfc-worker-getting-tested/

What’s even worse though is the political management being shown by the PM, her Ministers and their senior staff. This story first broke on Monday; now four days on, the flames are getting even worse. It should have been hosed down immediately with an apology from the PM, but every time the PM or one of her Ministers doubles down, as Hipkins did last night, it’s going to get harder and harder to reclaim the narrative. And we all know that Labour is all about controlling the narrative…

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December 4, 2019 8:00am
- igm
  
  HDPA really showed him up for the worthless obfuscating sniveller he is. She wiped the floor wih the little wimp.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:04am
  - mandk
    
    Unfortunately, Hipkins won’t care. He’s a bumptious POS.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:10am
    - tf78
      
      mandk – his ego will be severely bruised and he will be really angry now. Watch out deplorables we will be in for a longer ‘lockdown’ if we’re not well behaved.
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:42am
      - lastmanstanding
        
        Yes remember if Cindy gets really pissed off she can extend the lockdown. And I for one wouldnt put it past her. Shes showed herself as a venal feral nasty little piece of works.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:01am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Lastman, apparently when there are no cameras or mics, she is quite a handful.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:48am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Looks like the interview has been pulled.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:58am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Check the new link above 😀
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:27am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Isn’t there a separate thread or two about this, Tony? Surely you have some other beef to bring up in GD.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:07am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Oh, sorry mikenmild. I must have missed the announcement about DPF appointing you as a moderator 😀
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:15am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      If I were a moderator, i would not advertise the fact, given the vitriol directed at Batman.
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:29am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        You are happy to launch vitriol at others, though.
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:39am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        If you were a moderator, you’d cop a lot more vitriol than Batman.
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:39am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Said it before, at least you can converse and debate with Batman
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:42am
      - kloyd0306
        
        You are confusing vitriol with ethics.
        No one should be allowed to be both moderator AND commentator, (except if you are a lefty, of course).
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:44am
      - Batman
        
        Hahaha you think I’m a lefty.
        
        Hahahahahaha! Ahhhh good stuff.
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:49am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        Maggy, it’s true that I have little patience with the foolish, the duplicitous, and the blindly loyal.
        Cap’n, the point was, if I were a moderator I wouldn’t make that public. I don’t think any of the other moderators would reveal that role, after seeing Batman abused on the imaginary grounds that he is censoring opinions that he disagrees with.
        Steve, that really hurts.
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:46am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Maggy, it’s true that I have little patience with the foolish, the duplicitous, and the blindly loyal.
        
        You talk yourself up..
        I have found you to be a sneaky commenter who cowardly buggers off the scene when your duplicity is revealed.
        
        You linked my name with ‘Moon conspiracytheories” late one night
        You spent over a year labelling me mad, hysterical
        You claimed I don’t care about the environment.
        
        Nasty shit, as far as I can see.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:10am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Maggy, none of that is true.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:16am
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        Batman
        Yeah, you are one of those people who claim they aren’t a lefty, while at the same time holding all the views that would categorise you as a lefty. You are a liberal at minimum, even if not a progressive revolutionary leftist. I’ve never read anything you have ever said that would make me think you are right wing.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:25am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @mikenmildagain.
        
        Here is the first example I referred to:
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/01/general_debate_2_january_2020.html#comment-2617039
        
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        March 4, 2021 1:22pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Maggy,if you write trip like this about global warming,
        
        Because as far as I can work out an elite group of folk want to take control of the Global economic system.
        
        you should expect to be mocked.
        
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        March 4, 2021 6:23pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @mikenmildagain
        
        1. It’s not my fault that you are unaware of the aims of the elite groups invited to Davos
        https://time.com/5771889/davos-climate-change/
        
        2. It’s not my fault that you seem to have selective amnesia about the personal abuse and smears you have directed against me for the last 6 years or so.
        
        I assume we have never met… but you are happy to smear me and abuse me in a public forum.
        
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        March 4, 2021 7:34pm
    - Yabster
      
      blindly loyal – wow so you must have no patience with yourself then- as you only have one point of view .
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:03am
- Scott
  
  Tony Stuart– I am not sure that I agree. I was talking to a couple of fellows at the gym this week and they both were in agreement with the government messaging. “If people just follow the rules then all would be well. The Auckland lockdown is a result of rule breakers who are ruining everything for the rest of us”.
  
  The government messaging as conveyed through their outlets and their media lackeys is all persuasive to even quite intelligent people. There are no independent critical voices in the media apart from people like Mike Hosking.
  
  So everyone I talk to believes the narrative. Whereas if we had robust debate and the exchange of ideas through the media and a lively opposition, real questions could be asked of the Prime Minister.
  
  Such as – why are we persecuting 21-year-olds for going out and doing normal things? Especially when the facts are in question?
  Why are we not instead focusing all of our efforts on vaccinating everyone in New Zealand over the age of 65? We know that in America 81.3% of those who have died from Covid are over the age of 65. So why not just vaccinate all of our old people as quickly as possible so we can move on as a nation?
  
  We could also ask this question. Virtually no one under the age of 50 dies of this virus. Why are we locking down healthy 25-year-olds in Auckland who should be out working and earning a living for themselves and their families?
  
  The Prime Minister could have been forgiven for panicking at the early stage of this virus when we didn’t really know much about it. But now we do know a lot about it and we know that virtually no one under the age of 50 dies of this. The at risk group are those over the age of 65.
  
  How about a warp speed campaign to inoculate old people so the rest of us can get on with our lives? It’s called freedom and liberty. It’s called human rights including the right to work and the right to associate with others. The Labour Party used to believe in those things.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:07am
  - krazykiwi
    
    It’s called freedom and liberty, and our neo-Marxists leaders have NEVER believed in that. Our unquestioning obedience and absolute servitude are demanded. Kindly, of course. And the voters said “Yes, more please”
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:15am
    - kowtow
      
      And signalled their status as Cultists with Teddy Bear shrines.
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:23am
    - graham
      
      Stephen Fry has a good line about democracy; he says that democracy can be greatly disliked by politicians, because it’s immensely inconvenient.
      
      About the 1:45 mark here:
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP1V8G-JPLQ
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:26am
  - Tricati
    
    I agree that vaccinating the elderly should be the priority after front-line staff , as it was the eldrly group that suffered the most due to covid, particularly those in resthomes.
    But alas, listening to Peeni Henare this morning, it seems Maori and Pasifika people are more at risk so likely to be prioritized. I wish someone would ask him what makes them a higher risk group, how many have actually contracted covid verses the rest of the population, and is he saying they are higher risk based on current health outcomes, which in many cases are lifestyle related.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:28am
    - Clyde
      
      I also half-pie listened to Henare – thought he was just another East Polynesian activist sounding off until the end of the interview. Appalling that a Minister of the Crown [deleted – mod.], but not surprising in these days. Was talking to a friend yesterday about the political situation and the parallels between Tony Blair and Jacinda was high on the agenda.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:04am
      - hullkiwi
        
        I’ve said it many a time, Jacinda’s copybook is straight out of Tony Blair’s rule book.
        
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        March 4, 2021 4:12pm
    - fernglas
      
      The projections based on the last flu outbreak are that Pasifika are 8 times more likely to be hospitalised, and Maori 5 times more likely than other ethnicities. The response from those communities is that Covid is somehow a racist virus. Of course, if all of us had taken the last year to drop 15 kilo’s, stop smoking and improve our diet, we would be all equally less likely to suffer when this virus eventually and inevitably gets loose in the community.
      Disclaimer: I have already had Covid, so I am eating like a pig, drinking like a fish and watching a shit load of TV while sitting on my flabby arse.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:14am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The very elderly need it least. It an open invitation to trouble for many who are eking out their days as best they can. Those in nursing homes are already largely removed from the community. Their immune systems are fragile and they are not well able to resist the onslaught of an active vaccine or substitute genetic modifier. The co-morbidities will be excited or not so well contained, then it’s all over.
      Vaccinate the elderly and watch the death count rise.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:18am
      - fernglas
        
        Not everybody over 65 is in a rest home, Kev.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:30am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        ” Their immune systems are fragile and they are not well able to resist the onslaught of an active vaccine or substitute genetic modifier.”
        
        Can you provide any evidence all to support that statement? Because it has no basis in science.
        
        In the UK 85% of people over 75 and 89% of residents in care homes have now been vaccinated.
        
        https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-03-02/debates/74021AE5-C2F3-4450-BF26-84EBDE1B2A14/Covid-19Update
        
        The UK has a large population. With uptake rates like that, if your statement is correct, we would expect to see high numbers of adverse events in UK elderly folk.
        
        In fact the data from the UK shows the opposite. Adverse reactions occur in about 1 in 10 people. These are very very rarely serious and they are MORE LIKELY to occur in adults UNDER 55 years old.
        
        “For both vaccines, the overwhelming majority of reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness.”
        
        https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
        
        The only serious adverse reactions have been allergic anaphylaxis. This is extremely rare and can occur with any vaccine. Anaphylaxis can occur across all age groups.
        
        It is really unhelpful to make statements to infer that the vaccine is dangerous fore the elderly. It has no basis in science and is not supported by any evidence. Our elderly need the vaccine.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:51am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        A basic primer for Benedict & ors.
        https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/immune-disorders/biology-of-the-immune-system/effects-of-aging-on-the-immune-system
        
        I make a range of herbal medicinals and are well aware of risk.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:33am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Thanks Benedict, I can’t do it anymore… too exhausted. It’s like screaming into a void, only worse because some of these people are [supposedly] sentient.
        
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        March 4, 2021 1:55pm
      - I remember when
        
        When we talk about the elderly we never discuss what the alternative deaths are.
        
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        March 4, 2021 2:51pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        Thank you Benedict and Pharmachick.
        
        I notice Kev said the very elderly need it least.
        
        Kev is in his 82nd year on this planet, so he is not a member of the ‘very elderly’ cohort — which I (a non-medical person) put at 85 . I have no doubt that, while he has revealed himself to be happy to throw the ‘very elderly’ under the bus, he will receive his COVID-19 jab sometime later this year.
        
        Kev is saying leave the ‘very elderly’ to their fate; their lives are basically over, anyway; what does it matter — even though, as a professed practising Christian, he presumably regards all human life as precious (which I, as a secular humanist, most certainly do).
        
        And to imply that he has some relevant medical knowledge, because he “makes a range of herbal medicinals”, is beyond the pale.
        
        Kev, you are a disgrace.
        
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        March 4, 2021 3:29pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        […] — which I (a non-medical person) put at 85+.
        
        […] put at 85+.
        
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        March 4, 2021 4:02pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        My comments are based on my experience. Both my wife and I have ministered jointly in the Rosewood Nursing Home in Christchurch, the one which had the 12 deaths.
        
        No one wishes anyone harm. The early revelations from the Diamond Princess cruise ship have been closely born out internationally since then. The 80+ cohort were the most at risk
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        I don’t need to argue the issues of prescribing for the elderly, the doc checks my meds regularly. The people in the hospital area of Rosewood are locked in. That is common in nursing homes. Many have dementia and have to rely on the doctors and staff to prescribe and care. With the impairments of age it can be here today and gone tomorrow. Any extra load on the system can trigger unexpected responses the control of which may be worse than palliative care.
        
        These are tough times for Bloomfield and his team. They will intend no harm but one size does not fit all. It is made even worse by the history of Gates and his support for depopulation. He and others have messed up the overall integrity of the public advice. I still have a reasonable ability to read the scientific literature and produce an informed opinion.
        
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        March 4, 2021 7:24pm
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Judith has said South Auckland should be the priority after frontline staff and health workers. I reckon she is right on that.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:32am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        And I would think that much of NZ would agree with her.
        
        South Auckland is where the border leaks.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:39am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        The vaccine priority groups should be set by the evidence of who is most vulnerable. We should not be establishing priorities based on the opinions of uninformed politicians. The UK Government has established its roll out strategy based purely on the science. All attempts by politicians to push for special treatment for random groups have been ignored.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:59am
      - Frank the tank
        
        Plays into the narrative that South Auckland can’t take care of itself. It’s a weak and patronizing argument.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:33am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Sure is. One of the benefits besides the obvious protection of the frontline workers would be to raise the awareness of Covid 19 as families began to speak about relations and church members who had the jab. It could also lift morale and discourage the conspiracy theorists.
        In fact, the same could work here with the head shepherds taking one for the herd.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:55am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        ‘Plays into the narrative that South Auckland can’t take care of itself’
        
        Frankly Frank, the majority of them can’t. IMO the majority of them can’t wipe their arses either through obesity, never being taught, their inability or reluctance to be part of New Zealand or failure of Purex to write the instructions in more than the 23 languages the Covid information is available in, on the packet.
        
        South Auckland, the basket case and cancer of New Zealand.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:52am
    - BeeJay
      
      I wish that they would just get on and vaccinate Maori and Pasifika people, and maybe then they would all shut the f…. up, and the rest of us could get vaccinated without having to listen to the continual crap from this Government about “higher risk group based on current health outcomes”, when we all know the reasons for the higher risk and the poor health outcomes! Too racist? My great grandmother is Punjabi! So what am I? A mixed race chawallah?
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:35am
    - rouppe
      
      Dpf showed some stats the other day.
      
      Actually European and Asians have contracted Covid in higher proportion to their population stats than Maori or Pasifika
      
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      March 4, 2021 12:23pm
  - tf78
    
    Scott – I don’t think the vaccine should be compulsory. (Being over that age group, I don’t want it – if I’m gunna go, I’m gunna go. I’ll just take the treatment thank you).
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:50am
    - Batman
      
      It’s not about you. It’s about stopping you from spreading it to other older people or anyone you come in contact with, should such a situation arise.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:00am
      - tf78
        
        Sorry Batman, it is about ME – I don’t want to be a guinea pig for a new vaccine. You knock yourself out though.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:17am
      - fernglas
        
        At the moment, there is limited evidence that the vaccines do so, although there has been some hopeful news from Israel about the Pfizer vaccine.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:18am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Batman, see KevO’Brien’s 9.28.
        This is why I will not take it. I refuse to be part of Jaspinda’s socialist experiment – not a lab rat
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:58am
      - NoFax
        
        But Batman we don’t know yet if it stops transmission; that’s why you have to carry on with masks, social distancing etc.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:21am
      - Tall Man
        
        A lot of assumptions in your comment Batman.
        
        I doubt many viruses are spread when there are zero syptoms and I doubt many would wander into an at risk facility with visible symptoms, even if they were allowed.
        
        Maybe you hail from a generation bereft of personal responsibility and consideration for others but don’t assume the same attitude is present in others.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:13am
      - Sacha
        
        The point of taking a vaccine is for your body to develop an immune reaction and stop you from becoming ill.
        You could still be a ‘carrier’ and spread the virus to others by coughing, sneezing, and laughing, just like ‘flu and the common cold.
        I suggest that those of us who don’t want to be injected, may well have good public health hygiene habits, a healthy self image, and strong immune responses to opportunist infections.
        
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        March 4, 2021 12:35pm
      - Batman
        
        But the vaccine does reduce spread and cases of illness, so it does the job.
        
        If you refuse to take the vaccine, while also refusing to wear an N95 addition to the personal hygiene you mentioned, then really you’re just begging to both catch the virus and spread it.
        
        Of course, this is mostly hypothetical in NZ currently. But given the current government…
        
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        March 4, 2021 1:16pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The”vaccine” in NZ cannot be compulsory as it only has emergency use approval status. It is far from meeting regular prior testing standards.
      
      If you offer your arm you are considered to have consented.
      You may refuse without your considered informed consent. That means the person giving the dose must respond to your questions and you must be satisfied and permit them proceed.
      Without such consent we are effectively lab rats being experimented on. That is against all human norms.
      
      The govt are being very coy about the status of the “vaccine”.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:28am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Addendum:
        https://www.globalresearch.ca/c-y-a-and-fraudulent-marketing-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-is-an-unapproved-product-which-is-permitted-for-use/5738844
        
        I believe this is one of the so called vaccines intended for New Zealand.
        
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        March 4, 2021 12:02pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Well good on you 🙁 What about you spreading the virus to others?
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:53am
    - Flossie
      
      tf78
      You going to pay for any treatment that may be required? The jab may be a bit easier on the tax payers’ pocket.
      
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      March 4, 2021 11:08am
      - tf78
        
        Flossie – well prepared with Hydroxy thanks for asking.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:37am
  - Happy1
    
    Scott, the 21 yo is being criticised for going to the gym AFTER he went to the doctor with symptoms and got a swab taken. He would have been told in no uncertain terms that he had to isolate until the results were known. We are not vaccinating the old and vulnerable as we don’t have enough vaccine. As no one is dying here no lives would be saved. The available vaccine is being administered to the vulnerable in the UK where it has reduced the deaths by over a 1000 a day. Better to use it there than here. We will get little benefit from vaccination until herd immunity is reached and the border controls can come off. Eliminate and isolate is still the best way to protect our citizens and is the choice of the vast majority. Best health outcome and best economic outcome.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:32am
    - I remember when
      
      A glance at the Daily New Deaths chart in the UK suggests the number of deaths has been on a steady decline since 20-27 January, 2021.
      
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      March 4, 2021 3:01pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    Never seen this PM panic, nor any before her that I recall. That is probably what bothers you about her because you overreacted when you couldn’t go north after David Seymour’s tribe said they were protecting themselves by keeping out visitors with potential Covid 19. So you suggesting she panicked is a bit rich.
    I’m all good with front liners getting vaccinated first. Then cry-babies 2nd, 3rd, and 4th with those confident of looking after themselves at the rear.
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:21am
  - Ruahine
    
    Where’s the vaccines Cindy.
    
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    March 4, 2021 1:47pm
    - curry4me
      
      Ruahine: No point asking here. She’s totally clueless.
      
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      March 4, 2021 5:28pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Around 5.45pm on the same show, Ms du Plessis Allan had Jack Tame, and another guy, Mathew someone, in a discussion about Ms Ardern’s handling of the events around this family.
  HDPA asked whether Ms Ardern should apologise.
  Jack Tame showed himself for what he clearly is :
  a love sick teenager masquerading as a professional al journalist.
  The more HDPA pressed him, the more he stuttered and prevaricated. He just couldn’t bring himself to say one word against his idol.
  It was embarrassing – I felt sorry for him really.
  Does this really matter?
  Well, yes, it does.
  If Tame was a member of the PM’s personal Comms team, or even an employee of the wider Labour Party’s Comms team, his cringe- worthy support could be expected.
  But he is not. He is employed by an allegedly independent media outlet.
  His bias was laid bare last night and if I was his employer I would be asking him to consider his future as an independent broadcaster.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:17am
  - kloyd0306
    
    $105 million plus Tame’s marsh mellow for brains is a deadly combination.
    
    Independant!!!! The media?
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:48am
    - RalphT
      
      Exactly. Thanks to the $105 million, Jack Tame and the others are part of the PM’s personal Comms team.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:22am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      YUP..he who pays the piper, calls the tune.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:03am
  - Nickc2
    
    If I was his employer, he would be gone by lunchtime. He’s nothing more than a Prime Ministerial lap-dog.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:21am
  - Flossie
    
    Jack Tame’s bias has been patently obvious since forever.
    
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    March 4, 2021 11:11am
- Loddenthinks
  
  The link doesn’t work Tony – or at least it comes up as 404 Page not found 🙁
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:21am
  - Swifty
    
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/chris-hipkins-defends-governments-stance-on-kfc-worker-getting-tested/
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:29am
    - Swifty
      
      It was a spanking.
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:39am
      - tf78
        
        Delicious too!
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:52am
  - redeye
    
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/chris-hipkins-defends-governments-stance-on-kfc-worker-getting-tested/
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:47am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Try this one: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/chris-hipkins-defends-governments-stance-on-kfc-worker-getting-tested/
    
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    March 4, 2021 11:23am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Thank you everyone that posted – all good now and yes it was a spanking and yes it was delicious.
      
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      March 4, 2021 2:36pm
- gravedodger
  
  Having to rely on lightweights such as Chippy, Kell, Nashy and Co along with Crats Coster and Bloomfield, with Shaun “80 000 dead” Hendy and pinko hair Wiles to provide the missile screen suggests a fare degree of vulnerability for the coastal patrol vessel “Ardernearly” methinks?
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep,
    The PM lacks decent advisors and her Cabinet is asleep at the wheel.
    
    Michael Bassett reckons she needs to LEAD…
    but she has no idea how to… she’s only ever been a mascot for Labour.
    
    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/jacinda-s-luck-running-out
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:18am
    - SB2
      
      Michael Bassett reckons she needs to LEAD??
      
      Which David Seymour and Judith Collins do?
      
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      March 4, 2021 11:23am
    - James Stephenson
      
      One of the core tenets of leadership is that you give credit to others for success and you take the blame and shield your team from criticism.
      
      Since when has that ever sounded like Jacinda?
      
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      March 4, 2021 11:52am
    - Master Mariner
      
      A Leader she is not. Nor anyone pulling the strings behind this charade.
      
      Leadership and communicator are 2 very different beasts.
      
      Leadership requires exceptional management and vision along with effective communication to get people to obtain a common goal.
      
      Communication requires an effective message that is clearly understood by all to achieve the common goal.
      
      Ok, Questions
      
      What if the “common Goal” is wrong?
      What are you then communicating and to who?
      Verbal Communication is roughly 20 % by verbal instructions and 80% Body language , And by your own actions. ie “do as I say , Not as I do” is clearly ineffectual communications.
      
      Leadership in a nutshell, Is to get people to follow your Lead to obtain a common objective.
      This requires team work, Clear and conscise communications, And most importantly a belief in your objectives.
      
      I could really go on and on but you can see some issues already above .
      
      Thats why I do not believe PM is a good communicator as messaging is wrong and there absolutely No leadership at all.
      
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      March 4, 2021 12:54pm
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Claiming to know what “we all know” are troubled waters, Tony.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:10am
- Grant
  
  As of 1026 this morning that link doesn’t work. Was anyone else able to open it prior to that time?
  Just interested.
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  March 4, 2021 10:27am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Try this one Grant:
    
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/chris-hipkins-defends-governments-stance-on-kfc-worker-getting-tested/
    
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    March 4, 2021 11:24am
- AitchW
  
  He does not perform well under pressure. Sadly only HDPA and Hosking, of all the media, are prepared to drill down and refuse to let him gloss over the government’s (and his) poor performance.
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:51am
- Bob
  
  ‘worse though is the political management’…
  
  what management is this, haven’t sighted any from Adern in her four years of mismanagement; or any of the other occupants of her govt.
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:53am
- curry4me
  
  Tony Stuart: Couldn’t have happened to a nicer government.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:19pm
Happychappy

Why is it with our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and her Labour Party Colleagues that when something goes wrong it is always the opposition or someone elses fault never their own.
While I don’t endorse the social media attack on School Principals or the students you don’t have to wonder why people are pissed off as nobody likes shouldering the blame.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-jacinda-ardern-and-papatoetoe-high-school-principal-vaughan-couillault-have-frank-and-open-talk-about-blaming-families-with-covid/TUKJOI7MP7OD2ABCGVPFP3S5ME/
Police complaints being made after the Headmaster the Prime Minister have a discussion on the subject of social media especially after her calling for people to dob others in.
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March 4, 2021 8:00am
- Bobba Fret
  
  She is in damage control mode.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:10am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    That requires a closed mouth.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:57am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Better to remain silent and thought a fool
      than to speak and remove all doubt?
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:47am
    - Ruahine
      
      Zip it Sweetie.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:15am
    - stewmar
      
      It requires a brain too
      
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      March 4, 2021 11:00am
    - oldfella
      
      Tricky.
      
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      March 4, 2021 11:10am
- G152
  
  Gets more like East Germany everyday with these clowns.
  I think I know now where she got the nark on the neighbor
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:12am
  - all true
    
    Welcome to East Germany.
    over 50% of the NZ Voter elected to be in this environment.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:56am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Hitler was elected…just say’n
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:48am
      - Jack5
        
        Worse than that, RW Capitalist: 卐 Hitler was elected under MMP.
        
        Or at least the progenitor of MMP. After World War 2, the people of West Germany, given self-government again, chose to modify the old system, largely by introducing a 5 per cent threshold for getting use of non-electorate seats.
        
        That’s the 5 per cent threshold NZ politicians keep wanting to reduce, or even eliminate.
        
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        March 4, 2021 3:10pm
      - oldfella
        
        Might not be a real quote, but Hitler supposed said, ‘One man, one vote, one time.’
        That went well. /s
        
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        March 4, 2021 4:17pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    How come Tamaki gets a hit job? He did nothing unlawful. The PM packed her bags and got away to Wellington too before the lockdown–pity.
    
    This shaming by the govt is juvenile behaviour. Are we to run NZ by over-the-back-fence-neighbourly-supervision? That in itself is illegal, minimally it’s a breach of peace
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:05am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      Christian. Christians are always in the sights of the radicals. Christianity is always the number one threat to fully establishing Marxism. It is the only religion that can be mocked without consequence.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:30am
    - Brian McDonald
      
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      Don’t you realise that the PM works in Wellington. It’s the capital city where Parliament is. It’s an odd shaped building called the beehive. It’s clear from the press conferences she worked all weekend, probably she does that often and would have a very long working day.
      I’ve taken a long time to form an impression of her, having only seen her once. But it has dawned on me how much work she does whilst also being a mother and wife.
      She hasn’t become bitter with age needing to moan everyday Kev. You should aspire to lift yourself to her standard.
      Your dear friend the Pastor, Bishop, or whatever he is simply fled his flock in South Auckland to head for the bright lights of Roto Vegas far from the Covid nights of South Auckland. He did runner on his flock. Shepherds these days.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:32am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Pass the violin
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:38am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        But it has dawned on me how much work she does whilst also being a mother and wife.
        
        I can’t see she does any more than any other working mum….
        
        and all of the working mums I know, don’t have nannies, house-keepers, chauffeurs on tap.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:44am
      - Scott
        
        Brian McDonald – so Brian Tamaki and his wife left Auckland and drove to Rotorua and preached to their Rotorua congregation on Sunday. What is wrong with that? Why are they being singled out any different from all of the people who left Auckland prior to the lockdown being imposed?
        By the way Brian Tamaki is a bishop because he is in charge of a number of churches. That’s the definition of a bishop.
        
        It just seems to me like a hit job from the government and their media lackeys. Barry Soper in the New Zealand Herald I am referring to you. Unpleasant things are happening – blame the Christians. This has a long history. In ancient Rome when there was a fire, the Emperor Nero blamed the Christians. Many were arrested and crucified. So I think that is what the government is tapping into.
        
        But objectively, what has Brian Tamaki done wrong? He didn’t abandon his flock. His flock couldn’t meet in Auckland. So he met with his flock in Rotorua and probably live streamed the service to his Auckland congregation. What’s wrong with that?
        
        I think there are a number of people who are upset about this yo-yo into a rolling maul of continuous lockdowns. However I don’t think we can reasonably blame Bishop Brian Tamaki for the problem.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:46am
      - herb1
        
        Wife?
        Didn’t realise she was married
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:15am
      - NoFax
        
        Brian McDonald – she may or may not be a hard worker but she usually does a very bad job of it. Name one thing she has succeed at – and don’t say Covid as we were never going to lose 80k.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:18am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        I would pass the violin Steve but I can’t get if off old Kev.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:26am
      - Nukuleka
        
        She’s not a wife. Don’t lie.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:27am
      - Brian McDonald
        
        Maggie, a small point I know. But of the ‘all’ the working mums you know how many are Prime Ministers?
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:28am
      - Liberty
        
        Brian would you like to explain why Dear Leader needed to be in Auckland in the first place. She is provided with the top of the range State house.
        Are we still in Climate emergency? Or was that last week cry of the week
        If so, how does Dear Leader justify carbon pumping flights for a junket
        weekend in Auckland.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:04am
      - RightFirstTime
        
        “Being a mother and wife”. I can’t believe I could have missed the wedding. Did Cindy and Clarke elope?
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:09am
      - RalphT
        
        Liberty, in fairness to the PM she is also an MP, and most MPs return to their electorates at the weekend to catch up with local issues.
        
        Note: this is the first time I have commented in support of this PM. And likely to be the last.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:11am
      - Liberty
        
        Ralph
        Are you seriously suggesting Dear Leader goes down to the local market.
        And holds court for the ills of the poor people. Rain hail or shine.
        I suspect once in a blue moon if you are lucky.
        
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        March 4, 2021 11:51am
      - RalphT
        
        Liberty, I’m sure she does go down to the local market, not to hear the grumbles, but to smile at potential voters. While she milks it for all it’s worth and goes to every event where there will be a photographer, she is only doing what most MPs do.
        
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        March 4, 2021 12:44pm
    - Stephen Russell
      
      Tamaki did nothing wrong getting out of Auckland. Nor did Ardern. The lockdown took effect at 6am precisely so that people would have a chance to get home or to their workplace or wherever before being trapped. Many other criticisms can be made of both individuals, but this one is unfair.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:40am
      - Ruawai
        
        Agreed, I am not a Tamaki or Ardern fan but neither did anything illegal and there should be no witch hunt for either.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:53am
    - crikey
      
      “ This shaming by the govt is juvenile behaviour.”
      
      Hipkin’s comments on Tamaki leaving Auckland were reprehensible. They did nothing wrong.
      
      And while I’m on it, why did the second of these lockdowns start at 6 am? My guess – the government knew that many (south Aucklanders particularly) would be out at the boxing, or at gatherings watching the boxing, and couldn’t be relied on to be home by midnight (the time of previous curfews). Great potential for virus transmission there but where are the cases?
      
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      March 4, 2021 12:22pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @Brian McDonald
      
      I don’t know any PMs..
      but I knew my step-mother when she had 3 kids to raise; a slow-dying husband to nurse, and an 8-hour shift in a clothing factory before a 30min bus-trip home and tea to prepare, clothes to wash and house to clean.
      
      and I s’pose I could say similar of Hubby’s step-ma…widowed with 4 kids to raise, 6-8 hr shifts at the city co-op store, etc.
      
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      March 4, 2021 2:04pm
- peterwn
  
  The three rules of diplomacy are (and they apply equally to politics):
  1. Don’t get caught.
  2. If you are caught do not admit it.
  3. Try and fasten the blame firmly on to someone else.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:23am
  - tf78
    
    pertwn, it sounds like an insurance disclaimer.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:38am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTMgX1PDGAE
    Labour party modus operandae
    since forever
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:51am
  - Master Mariner
    
    If true, Then in real world all the opposites are true.
    
    Probably reason enough for a huge disconnect in general society between us and them.
    
    just think back to Fanny mae/mac debacle. The banks did not think the poor people would try there damnest to pay back what they borrowed of which they exploited once known.
    
    As one example, Theres plenty more where that came from but you get the Gist.
    
    Thank god they are not my troop commander in a time of war is all that I can say.
    
    Extraordinary times require extraordinary Leadership.
    
    Opposite examples to 1-3 are urgently required otherwise pandemonium will pursue
    
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    March 4, 2021 3:29pm
- Swifty
  
  It’s been commented on for years on here; how lefties can never admit when they’re wrong.
  
  Look at Labour MPs, unionists, annointed academics – hell, look at the scores of hard-core lefty commentators here over the years, and what is the one constant? They will never admit they were wrong over something. At times I think they believe they can never be wrong. Over anything.
  
  The really interesting thing to me is why they are this way? Were they born believing their infallibility? Or was this developed over years?
  
  I believe the answer is neither. They know they make mistakes; all the time. It’s just that they refuse to admit it. It is a tactic, designed to show strength and wisdom.
  
  Just like Stalin, Mao and others. Admitting you can be wrong is a sign of weakness and cannot be allowed.
  
  To see it in New Zealanders is very disappointing. It’s infantile at best, but at it’s worst it’s downright dangerous, especially in our elected representatives.
  
  On this topic – check out this footage from a Labour Party rally in Wellington in 1945:
  
  https://youtu.be/3mf7DN1ipVY?t=61
  
  Look how they venerated their leaders even then – carrying their portraits aloft.
  
  When was the last time you saw righties holding aloft portraits of their political representatives? When did you last see National supporters marching down Queen St with oversize pics of Key or English?
  
  I think it funny – but, seriously, we all know where they get it from don’t we?
  
  https://youtu.be/77Q7G8pdXtA?t=670
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:24am
  - tf78
    
    Swifty I think because “the righties” know what they stand for personally, where the ‘lefties” don’t have a clue and need someone to tell them.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:40am
    - Brian McDonald
      
      Actually many of the “righties” joined the “lefties”, if there is such either thing, at the last election.
      Try to remember that in real life the middle dominates the right and the left – where the middle goes, the election goes.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:35am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I thought your last link was going to be video of labour party members saluting Ardern’s portrait.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:43am
    - Swifty
      
      Be patient. That will come.
      
      Just imagine Lambton Quay in 50 or 100 years time – who’s portrait will they be holding aloft then?
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:28am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Those vids have been scrubbed from the internet by Herr Kommandant, Mike
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:45am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Got close didn’t it.
      Remember the multi story flags with her picture on it.
      Very Stalin….
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:59am
    - Nickc2
      
      No, Labour pollies roll out prayer mats, crouch down with their arses in the air and do some muttering to pay homage to her. Never salutes, that’s yesteryear stuff.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:14am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      The ‘Aroha’ posters being put up in AK and CH CBD were getting rather Cult of Personality like.
      
      If someone bought a print, they slapped one up in a public space. Until it got called out:
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122063076/weston-frizzells-aroha-posters-ruled-to-be-adverts-for-labour-party
      
      Very-Obama colour scheme, so not super original by the ‘artist’.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_“Hope”_poster
      
      Smiling face of Dear Leader, who loves us and inspires us, is nothing new:
      https://www.amazon.com/EASTCODE-Collectibles-Chinese-Communist-Propaganda/dp/B07WZG8BW6
      
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      March 4, 2021 12:11pm
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    “At times I think they believe they can never be wrong. Over anything.”
    
    1. It is impossible to be wrong if your ideology
    repudiates the very notion of objectivity, and
    therefore truth and falsity.
    
    2. To them, it is axiomatic that they are always
    correct (which conflicts with #1), simply as a
    consequence of having the one and only valid
    moral framework and worldview. By definition,
    anyone who disagrees with them is morally
    inferior.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:02am
  - BAM
    
    When you surround yourself with people who think the same as you, how can you ever be wrong?
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:09am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Where does your link say that the PM was calling for people to dob others in?
  Now that you feel you’ve settled in KKs first post of the rank position doesn’t mean you have to tell porkies.
  Your link also doesn’t say anything about police complaints being made about the headmaster. I suppose once you get on a roll you can’t stop.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:00am
  - igm
    
    All left-wingers are narks . . . you must know that!
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:04am
- curry4me
  
  Happychappy: The school principal comes pretty well out of that. Cindy4UN doesn’t.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:34pm
Inandout

While most of the world are less concerned about C19, the terrorists have awoken.
https://www.rt.com/news/517121-sweden-terrorist-attack-stabbing-investigation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS
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March 4, 2021 8:02am
- krazykiwi
  
  It’s Sweden. The terrorists will be praised for keeping so many people safe by wearing their masks.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:10am
  - kowtow
    
    Very little in the Media Pardy about how freely hand grenades get tossed around in peaceful , settled , we all want to emulate the Scandanavian model .
    
    Well it’s well and truly broken and even deeply social democratic Denmark ,another one time darling of the progs, has had enough and has declared that Syrians can now go back there.
    
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9316633/Denmark-European-country-Syrian-migrants-country.html
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:31am
- GJM
  
  A lone wolf attack by a Hawaiian confectionery enthusiast who shouted their motto of aloha snackbar and any connection to the Religion of Peace is purely coincidence.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:54am
- Scott
  
  What amazes me is how quickly we have gone back to the Obama years.
  Islamic Terrorism on the rise – check.
  Open borders in America, thousands streaming over the border – check.
  Return to endless wars, bombing of Syria – check.
  
  People may not like Donald Trump. But his policies stopped all of these things. But now they are back. Who can possibly say this is a good thing?
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:53am
cmm

How does Robbo always manage to look so surprised? He seems to have perfected that “oops, I think I sat on a lollypop” look.

The poor bugger probably just thought this gig would give him $350k a year + a new Che beret. Now the sods are expecting him to come up with something useful to say.

But the real thing I wanted to ask was this: Why do Labour come up with these vaguely positive sounding, but completely meaningless phrases? Worse, why does nobody call them out on it?

What does “NZ Reconnect” actually mean?
If we need to reconnect, then that implies we disconnected. Why did they disconnect us?

The same goes for those other “re-” terms they love: reset, recalibrate, re-God-knows-what.

I suppose there are 50 million good reasons why the media aren’t putting their hand up and asking: “Excuse me Robbo, but WTF does Reconnect actually mean?”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-coronavirus-how-will-nz-reconnect-grant-robertson-defends-government-strategy/UFXPIG7B7GPPP3P3T5EM4OPFVA/
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- Ruawai
  
  ‘NZ Reconnect’ will be a euphemism for the ‘the great reset’ Robertson is disguising it by using a new term.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:24am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Robertson is admitting that he has unplugged the economy.
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:09am
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Further humiliation for the dirty politics crowd in court:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300243916/dirty-politics-saga-ends-with-carrick-graham-apology-in-court
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March 4, 2021 8:04am
- Lance
  
  You mean the dirty politics of like when Robbo deliberately lied to MSM about Judith Colin’s Orivida involvement and the MSM ran with a fact free hit job?
  Mind you, the MSM being Robbo’s sock puppet has paid off nicely now a days, $100M+ at last count.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:27am
  - igm
    
    Collins is like an elephant, does not forget, and cannot await the day when she sinks that little fat socialist jerk.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:40am
- MCos
  
  That goes down here like a lead balloon because although there is little sympathy for the loathsome Cameron Slater who made a living as the worst kind of bottom feeder leaving a trail of crushed reputations, they don’t want to be seen to give any credit to Nicky Hager for lifting the lid on the swamp.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:40am
  - Batman
    
    Well Hager is a loathsome little hypocrite who sits upon a moral high ground built entirely from stolen material from physical burglaries and backings.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:43am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Yeah, nah. Hager has a long record of using all kinds of sources. As with other journalists, that doesn’t make him responsible for the actions of other who have provided the information. What counts in publishing is the veracity of the information and the public interest.
      Condemn Hager for using ‘stolen’ material and you have to condemn the recipient of any leaked information.
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:50am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Using stolen work is itself unlawful.
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:32am
      - Jack5
        
        Has the identity of Rawshark, the hacker, been cracked??
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:33am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Yeah, yeah, we Know…
        “It’s alright when the Left does it.”
        
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        March 4, 2021 9:37am
      - MCos
        
        Apparently not, going by the fact he hasn’t had to front a judge.
        You could be damned sure the police would charge him with anything that might stick given the chance.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:14am
      - Gravelroad
        
        Ah yes, the trusty old “ends justify the means” defence.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:17am
    - curry4me
      
      Batman: Well said! If I said what I think of him, I’d get banned for the next couple of millenia.
      
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      March 4, 2021 5:38pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Gotta give you that one Batman. Well said.
        
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        March 4, 2021 8:33pm
- Jack5
  
  Son of Douglas Graham, the then National Minister who signed off the sweetheart deal for Ngai Tahu.
  
  The deal that gave Ngai Tahu first rights to buy State property in the South Island – for ever!
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Don’t blame the father for their sins as they do not rest with the children.
    Ask Grant Robertson !
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:36am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Michael Wood, the Minister of Transport, was gloating about this last night on social media. I asked him if he was endorsing the clearly illegal way in which Slater’s information was obtained, and suggested that it wasn’t a good look for a Minister of the Crown to be endorsing illegal behaviour such as hacking and theft. Interestingly, he hasn’t yet replied…
  
  As far as the behaviour of those before the court yesterday, every action has a consequence, and they got theirs.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:53am
  - Paulus
    
    Wood is tipped well in the Labour Party as a favoured son if he does not stuff up more that his predecessor.
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:37am
  - JibberJabber
    
    LoL, Michael Wood despite his massive intellect is not the brightest spark in this coalition of clowns that passes for a Government here in NZ.
    He and Deborah Russell quite often post on the Twitter humble bragging about how much cleverer they are compared to the rest of the Plebs.
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:42am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Not much of a boast imo, hardly the brains thrust any of them.
      
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      March 4, 2021 12:11pm
    - Papalazarou
      
      Massive intellect? Strikes me as an idiot
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:28pm
krazykiwi

Ashton Warhurst writes:

I think I am in an abusive relationship, and I don’t know how to escape. My abuser is too powerful and is intent on turning everyone I know against me, relentlessly trying to convince me that it’s all my fault, that somehow I’m to blame. It seems they’re the ‘good guy’ and I’m just a naïve nobody who doesn’t understand what’s best for me.

The realisation that I might be in an abusive relationship dawned on me when I read the Government’s statutory guidance framework for Controlling or Coercive Behaviour in an Intimate or Family Relationship. This framework, introduced in 2015, presents a list of control behaviours that help lawmakers recognise when a person, such as myself, is in an abusive relationship.

As I read through the list, it’s obvious that my own abuser ticks a disquietingly large majority of these boxes. Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised. After all, it is my own abuser who wrote the framework.
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March 4, 2021 8:04am
- Ronin
  
  +10
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:13am
- Sacha
  
  Facebook won’t let me share this rather skilful piece. Perhaps ‘abuser’ is on their list of key words?
  
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  March 4, 2021 1:30pm
Cobolt24

Why is this not getting media attention?
https://i.redd.it/ca7twnsseok61.jpg
Here’s the archived copy of the post.

http://web.archive.org/web/20210301215834/https://twitter.com/Rawiri_Waititi/status/1366472006917447681
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March 4, 2021 8:05am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Perhaps, like me, reporters have no idea what that tweet means. It’s complete gibberish, reading like a lesser-hinged Kiwiblog comment.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:09am
  - cmm
    
    Oh, bollocks.
    
    I’m sure if the races were reversed you’d know EXACTLY what it means.
    
    “The bro brosity of Maori’s and their “active assimilation agenda”. Pay them no attention, their archaic species is becoming more extinct as the modern world takes over. Technology + White people = Westernism > Ignorance + Stone Age people = Maori”
    
    If someone wrote that you’d know what it meant.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:25am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      See what I mean about gibberish and Kiwiblog comments?
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:31am
      - Tall Man
        
        You show us every day mikey.
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:44am
    - I remember when
      
      It’s like CO2 the offended against have 160 years to catch up.
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:33am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    It should be pretty obvious, even to a dullard like you. To be fair, I had to use Google Translate on the word “tiriti”. I shouldn’t have bothered, because ironically it seems to have been appropriated from English. Strange not having a word for the thing that you’re signing, and here were are nearly 200 years later, reading everything and anything into it like a blank cheque.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:34am
  - Yabster
    
    You know what it means Mike but like your lefty socialist mates you chose to stick you head in the sand either that or you agree with the message.
    
    The [ Mod : nope ] is saying all caucasians (he’s referring to Europeans Mike…..- which I assume you are one of even though you desperately want to be a Maori) try to assimilate all other cultures, we are an old species (shows his ignorance) and are becoming extinct- he is saying NZ (or the A word) will be great once the P word (which I never refer myself as – I prefer Kiwi or New Zealander funnily enough) are not here. Turn that around and that tweet would be hate speech and the person called a white supremacist all the socialist lefty woke wankers would be up in arms.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I showed quite clearly what it means yesterday..
    
    Mr Waititi believes Caucasians are an archaic species of human.
    He does not believe Caucasians are modern Homo sapiens.
    As he specifically refers to species and not subspecies, then he thinks Caucasians are Homo neanderthalensis or Homo denisova relicts.
    
    It really is a fascinating bit of “scientific” insight.
    Some of us seem to belong to a group of archaic humans that has survived and thrived and colonised the World over the last 1 million years.
    
    The second bit of his tweet obviously means that the Tangata Whenua folk and the Treaty-signing folk aka Caucasians are the new folk of Aotearoa.
    
    Where that leaves non-Caucasians and non-Maori in the Grand scheme of things is not addressed in that tweet.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:52am
  - all true
    
    I am so happy for you that you believe that you only smart one and the rest is seriously dumb.
    I am flattered.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:55am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    It means you’re getting replaced, mikey. What did you think your support for diversity entails in tangible terms.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:09am
  - JibberJabber
    
    LoL, it’s great you have had a moment of self-awareness, MM.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:27am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Tangata Whenua + Tangata Tiriti = Aotearoa Tangata Whenua + Pakeha = Old Zealand
    
    Simple enough. But who are Tangata Tiriti?
    Do we really want 1835 back and utu?
    
    If reporters don’t understand they need to go back to kindergarten for training.
    ~~Aotearoa~~ New Tyranny
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:39am
- ldypen
  
  Just another cuzzy racist, no mana, no respect an no idea…. but hey the pay is all good eh bro!
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:16am
- Mrs_Right
  
  Because it’s a Maori being racist towards white people, in case you are still wondering it’s perfectly acceptable in New Zealand.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:26am
  - oldfella
    
    Mrs R, being racist towards white people is even more acceptable in Ayoteearower.
    Not sure, but I think that’s a little island off the coast of New Zealand. Not much greenery, and very brown.
    Remind me not to go there.
    
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    March 4, 2021 11:50am
- redeye
  
  While on subjects Maori can I raise this?
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/jackson-unleashes-on-maori-mps
  According to Willie Jackson all Maori must think the maori way or else “they’re a total waste of bloody time”.
  Join the union or your a scab. Vote left wing or your not maori enough. Yada yada
  
  “Both ACT and National hold the position that 14 percent of councillors are already Māori, which is equal to the proportion of the general population.
  
  However, Jackson says, “95 percent of them would not be advocating a Māori view’’.
  
  I think he means ‘radical’ view.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:54am
  - Jack5
    
    Don’t underlie Wily Willie. His coup on behalf of the 21 tribal radio stations gave Maori virtual control of State radio.
    
    Wily Willie is one smart politician.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:36am
    - Jack5
      
      Edit –
      
      Don’t ~~underlie~~ underestimate Wily Willie.
      
      Sorry!
      
      Wily Willie had two Maori activist uncles in:
      
      – the late Syd Jackson, who, Wikipedia says, supported “Tino Rangatiratanga,* the revival of the Maori language, and the Maori protest movement in general.
      
      – Moana Jackson, Maori lawyer and activist, who has said Maori should have the opportunity for an alternative justice system.
      
      * From Wikipedia: Tino rangatiratanga is a Maori term that is often translated as “absolute sovereignty”. It appears in the Maori version of the Treaty of Waitangi.
      
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      March 4, 2021 1:25pm
  - tf78
    
    Willie JACKSON mmmmm!
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:42am
- Surely Knott
  
  Predicting extinction and erasure of one group in society based on skin colour.
  Is decolonisation different to dekulakization? . Would those comments be covered under new hate speech laws?
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:47am
lifesgood

The woke brigade won’t be happy. A perfect example of the law of unintended consequences, Dr Seuss books are 10 of the top 11 most popular books, i.e. most sales at the moment, on Amazon. You have to laugh. I hope many, more children get to enjoy them as much as my children and grandchildren have.
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March 4, 2021 8:17am
- MCos
  
  Seeing as there are 39 Dr Seuss books and 6 only are being pulling from publication there’s a pretty good chance those are not they.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:47am
  - trout
    
    Interesting commentary from Tucker Carlson yesterday on the attempted ‘cancelling’ of Dr. Seuss. He makes the point that the attack on Theodor Seuss “Ted” Geisel was not because he was ‘racist’ but because he was not ‘racist’ enough. In his books Dr. Seuss promoted the idea that all beings were equal regardless of physical differences. In ‘The Sneeches’ the futile pursuit of manufactured ‘diversity’ is laid bare for what it is – disruptive and ultimately pointless.
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:13am
Maggie Pie

Is the ‘virus’ mutating into a socialist tyranny?

https://twitter.com/harrypeterson_/status/1367030881630654464
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March 4, 2021 8:17am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  No.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:31am
- virtualmark
  
  Maggie, a question, what would National have done differently?
  
  As far as I’ve seen the Nats have agree with all the major steps that Labour have taken. Including the lockdowns. There’s a few differences around the edges (like yesterday’s good suggestion of paying people to self-isolate). But fundamentally both parties agree on the strategy.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:08am
  - Nickc2
    
    The process implemented by National/ACT would probably be the same being that most of it is run by the Ministry of Health. However, the Governmental implementation, traceability and accountability would be far superior.
    Oh, and there would be no blatant lies.
    
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    March 4, 2021 1:49pm
    - virtualmark
      
      I’m not so sure that the implementation, traceability and accountability would have been at all superior. Implementation and traceability is run by the Ministry of Health. Accountability is not a feature of any political party. And National is just as capable of lying as Labour is.
      
      Both shades of government would have received the same advice from officials. Judith Collins has clearly shown she would have gone done much the same path as Ardern has chosen to go. National’s talent pool is just as shallow as Labour’s too.
      
      For all the “Labour evil, National good” tribalism regularly on display here there is very little actual difference between the two.
      
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      March 4, 2021 4:14pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Yes.
  Oh look, a UK variant it’s more virulent …
  
  The emergence of a new coronavirus variant in Brazil has led the UK to ban all arrivals from South America.
  
  Oh noes, here comes the Brazilian variant it’s even more virulenter than than UK variant, .
  Only a matter of time before another variant shows up in all its glory.
  We should run a sweepstake on from where…
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:18am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    When it is the turn of the New Zealand virus variation, it will be te covid and everybody in the world will instantly recognise the warrior characteristic of the mutation . . .
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:18pm
- oldfella
  
  Maggie, ‘Jacinda lied. Kindness died.’
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:56am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Candace Owens calling out Biden on his sexist war on Women. Keep your eye on her ,she could be the first black, woman POTUS if she runs. Switched on.
https://leadpatriot.com/watch-candice-owens-scorches-biden-and-his-sexist-war-on-women/10818/
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March 4, 2021 8:21am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  She could also be the first astronaut on Mars, if she applies to NASA.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:32am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wank comment, totally expected
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:51am
  - kloyd0306
    
    So, intelligent women are a threat to you milky?
    
    [You’re getting close to slandering other commenters, be a bit more careful – Mod]
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:57am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Well, intelligent women might be, but how would that relate to Candace Owens?
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:19am
    - kloyd0306
      
      Slanderous? How?
      
      Is that you Batman?
      
      Asking for a friend.
      
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      March 4, 2021 12:06pm
Mrs_Right

The only virus we should make an effort to eradicate is the media. Causes far more damage than Covid ever will.
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March 4, 2021 8:21am
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  exhibit A https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2021/03/kiwis-with-supermarket-promotion-smeg-knives-warned-after-they-prove-to-be-super-sharp.html. the dumbing down of the steeple continues. tomorrow’s headline hot water is hot.
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:01am
sabre

The attacks from our dictatorship against Brian Tamaki are so unjustified, he has broken absolutely no law by leaving Auckland before the lockdown, whatever happened to Jacinda’s be nice to eachother mantra?
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March 4, 2021 8:24am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Just another deflection by our bullying PM.
  
  Direct attention away from her own mess-ups and pick on a victim that everyone can lay into.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:54am
- MCos
  
  Having listening to Bishop Brian’s money grubbing spiel from Rotorua on Sunday morning I don’t care who attacks those phonies, whatever the Level.
  I’m surprised he hasn’t got his own aeroplane by now.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:55am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t care who attacks those phonies
    
    Where does it end?
    
    I don’t like phonies, either…. but you don’t get justice by laying false complaints against folks or piling into someone because you don’t like their views.
    
    Sure, if the Tamakis have broken some law, then charge them, but they were within their rights to travel at the time they did.
    
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    March 4, 2021 9:28am
    - Jack5
      
      I don’t hold with Tamaki on religion, but he’s being targeted by Jacinderella’s subsidised media.
      
      The Hooerald has locals up in arms about Tamaki’s trip south, but the evidence so far seems flimsy. For example:
      
      “A Te Anau resident was not happy seeing Tamaki in town.
      
      “People in Te Anau believed they were relatively safe from Covid-19 as the town was so far away from any outbreaks, she said.”
      
      In the glory days of print, that quote might have been likened to “interviewing your typewriter”.
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:42am
    - MCos
      
      I’m not referring so much to their blatant midnight dash for the border. After all they were only joining a throng of people heading out of Dodge.
      If they want risk propagating more than the Word of the Lord in their eternal grasping for money that’s between them & their conscience.
      However.
      Promising people material rewards if they give 10% of their often limited incomes to his ‘ministry’ needs to be attacked. So should his promise that angels will protect them from the virus.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:12am
      - Nickc2
        
        If you want to cancel all churches, that’s fine by me. However, if you want to cherry-pick which churches should be cancelled on the grounds of what they preach or ask of their followers, that’s not ok by me. Surely, if people want to give money to a church of their choice, that’s their business.
        
        Don’t most churches pass a plate around or ask for donations/tythes? If punters don’t like that aspect of religion, they shouldn’t venture into it.
        
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        March 4, 2021 1:15pm
- doggone7
  
  Brian Tamaki being the hero of Kiwiblog shows the loathing for Ardern.
  
  The only thing Tamaki has done wrong is not transporting the virus from Auckland to his Rotorua congregation. Imagine if that had happened.
  
  Ardern would have been blamed for allowing him to go there, for not making the ‘border’ safe, for not giving the right information which people could understand and for any number of other reasons.
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:02pm
Happychappy

Wow didn’t Kelvin Davis often accuse National of this problem when in opposition and continually say this would happen on his or his Labour Party’s watch. Well it seems after last month’s riots at another prison and playing the blame game for Corrections Kelvin Davis has more violence examples of what is happening in our prisons.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/auckland-women-s-prison-guards-threatened-to-pepper-spray-inmate-put-her-in-headlock-after-suicide-attempt.html
Another example of a Minister that tells the NZ public of what he would do if elected and then sit on his arse and let bully’s run his prisons.
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March 4, 2021 8:29am
Inandout

Kayleigh McEnany joins Fox TV. Jim Acosta will be spinning in his office seat.
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March 4, 2021 8:29am
- Batman
  
  This week marks one year since Kayleigh the genius pronounced on Fox that the virus would never come to America thanks to the great leadership of the golden god.
  
  That take aged like milk in the summer sun.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:48am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    No surprises that Fox want her – she’s an accomplished liar.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:55am
    - Batman
      
      They needed someone with her level of mendacity to compliment Trey Gowdie
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She made a mistake. Guess what? Shen never blamed someone else, how ’bout that?
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:55am
    - MCos
      
      What?
      
      She made a mistake?
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:57am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        She gave her ‘opinion’
        
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        March 4, 2021 10:10am
      - MCos
        
        Yeah, but a mistake?
        
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        March 4, 2021 12:13pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    LOL salty a little? I see your TDS is not fully cured yet.
    
    Fare not she might reprise her role under Pres Ronny and even better Pres Kristi.
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:45pm
- SB2
  
  I see she like her master contracted the virus . The irony!
  
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-says-she-s-recovered-n1243807
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:33am
  - Frank the tank
    
    What she recovered like 99.7% of under 60yr olds without a pre-existing condition? Well I never…..
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:46pm
- Nickc2
  
  If you want to attack all churches, that’s fine by me. However, if you want to cherry-pick which churches should be attacked on the grounds of what they pray or ask of their followers, that’s not ok by me. Surely, if people want to give money to a church of their choice, that’s their business.
  
  Don’t most churches pass a plate around or ask for donations/tythes? If punters don’t like that aspect of religion, they shouldn’t venture into it.
  
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  March 4, 2021 1:21pm
- Nickc2
  
  GO Kayleigh! If you get sick of FOX, come to Lil-Olde-New-Zealand and have a go at our media hacks. They’re all ripe for the picking.
  
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  March 4, 2021 1:24pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Fuck, I would pay good money to see her drain the NZ Media Swamp
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:43pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      Well in terms of the looks department she would be 15 steps up. Imagine her up against the Blairite.
      
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      March 4, 2021 2:48pm
      - Nickc2
        
        It’s looks with brains Frank. Not an easy comodity to find I’m told.
        
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        March 4, 2021 2:58pm
- curry4me
  
  Inandout: Yeah, I might ust watch her stuff to see what it’s like. Otherwise Faux News are dead to me.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:49pm
Maggie Pie

‘BreakingWoke’…..a must watch.

In the absence of a GOD, the highest value is EQUALITY

https://youtu.be/wmdqFREixF4
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March 4, 2021 8:31am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, the man speaks perfect sense, but his ideas rest with people who actually think. With our education system being deliberately ‘dumbed down’ by our ‘kind’ government then good luck with that.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:41am
  - SB2
    
    Inandout, ‘dumbed down’ ??
    
    Ever richer irony alert.
    
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    March 4, 2021 11:35am
Paulus

At a coffee meeting yesterday morning of older persons one question raised is
“When are we going to get a Plan ?
I commented that many of them therm voted for her and as such she can do whatever she wanted. This cause a murmur, but the final conclusion was that should they live long enough as the vaccine is obviously not for the older generation, although they supported her, was that in no way would they vote Labour again.
But of course what is the alternative currently – not to vote.
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March 4, 2021 8:31am
- virtualmark
  
  Do they expect to be dead before July (at the latest)?? Just how old are these people?? What are you slipping into their coffee??
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:10am
WellingtonBFF

@Ian Boag
I see the dobbing in has begun in earnest. Operation Stasi NZ progressing at full steam!!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-police-105-phone-line-overwhelmed-as-people-seek-clarity-over-rule-and-report-breachers/EAJNPHXW6DS4FHAZU5Z7N5BH7M/
Weird that maybe you maybe something else would happen in response to the PTPMs communications……she is the one source of truth after all, and can do no wrong. Apart from inciting bullying against the vulnerable………..
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March 4, 2021 8:35am
- lifesgood
  
  At my local shops in Auckland there are several cafes. None of them are opened inside but all are selling coffees etc. Every day there are groups of people having coffee on the seats outside. They are happy, enjoying life, many kilometres from Sth Auckland and I would not dream of dobbing them in. What sort of low life would?
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:16am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The wanker that reported the Beach Bistro in Browns Bay while ignoring all the others, that’s who.
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:24pm
Batman

It’s important to laugh as part of a balanced diet!

https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/feds-say-trump-supporter-who-dressed-like-antifa-on-jan-6-so-he-could-get-away-with-anything-is-now-in-jail/

“A South Carolina man faces federal charges after admitting to federal agents that he traveled to Washington, D.C., with his wife on Jan. 6th, attended then-president Donald Trump’s rally, and entered the U.S. Capitol rotunda. Text messages the man shared with relatives indicate he bragged that he had dressed “like ANTIFA.”
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March 4, 2021 8:40am
- Inandout
  
  Batman, that Capitol visit by all sorts of people stopped short of burning the place down. The rioting and looting in the Dem cities (which apparently haven’t ceased) caused many lost businesses and had the full backing of Nancy & Co. OK for the left?
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:47am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Too right. An attempt to storm the capitol and hang the vice-president was ‘not as bad as’ some other disorder.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:56am
- tf78
  
  Batman, what about the Antifa guys who were videoed in the bushes changing into Trump supporter clothes.
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:06am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Did not see that – it was not on CNN/MSNBC, therefore fake news. Move on
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:47pm
I remember when

So the police are prosecuting 1000 covid related-breaches.
That hotbed of covid cases Wellington tops the list with 197 cases.
There have reportedly been 6531 breaches with 70% being in the 20-40 age groups.
People who have largely made their won decision about the dangers of covid at their age.
Hope all the police were wearing masks and correctly social distancing.
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March 4, 2021 8:42am
Jack5

Renaming New Zealand “Aotearoa”; replacing English with Maori language English; and next another bid to replace the flag? Woke and Cancel Culture war in the South Pacific …

The Dunedin Institute of Skills and Technology (polytechnic) is due to announce today whether it will fly the Maori flag permanently.

This follows a campaign by the Otago Polytechnic Students’ Association. The Tino Rangatirotanga flag has flown at the site from time to time, but the association president, Ezra Tamati, has been campaigning to have the flag fly permanently at the institute in Forth Street, Dunedin.

Ara Institute of Christchurch, Chrischurch’s polytechnic, has already decided this year to fly the flag permanentlhy at its site. It says this is a sign of commitment to “equity for Maori”.

The Rangatirotanga flag was designed in 1990 after the then Minister of Maori Affairs, Pita Sharples, called for a Maori flag to be flown on the Auckland harbour bridge to mark Waitangi Day.

The Ministry of Culture and Heritage says of the Maori flag:

“While it does not carry official status it is a symbol of this land that can complement the New Zealand flag. Flying the two flags together on days of national significance such as Waitangi Day symbolises and enhances the Crown-Maori relationship.”

It adds:

Where there is a single flagpole, the New Zealand flag should fly above the Maori flag “to respect its status as the symbol of the Realm, Government and people of New Zealand.”

The protocol on flying the two flags is laid out at the link below.

There’s no mention in media reports that the southern polytechnics plan to fly the New Zealand flag in addition to the Maori flag. It’ll be interesting to see if these polytechnics follow protocol and fly the Maori flag either under a New Zealand flag, or fly it side by side on a second flagstaff, with the Maori flag at most no higher than the New Zealand flag.

Like rust, Woke and Maori activists don’t sleep. They’re eating into the national superstructure while the climate’s favourable: Ardern’s socialism, Cancel Culture, and State control of our news media.

Protocol for flying the Maori flag with the New Zealand national flag:

https://mch.govt.nz/nz-identity-heritage/flags/national-māori-flag

The Maori flag:

https://www.tpk.govt.nz/en/a-matou-kaupapa/crown-iwi-hapu-whanau-maori-relations/the-national-maori-flag
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March 4, 2021 8:54am
- Clyde
  
  Any tertiary institution in NZ is a latent hotbed of radical (and state funded) woke crap and instititutional racism. Look at the parallels happening with those institutions and the media. Fund them and abide by the pardy line.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:13am
  - curry4me
    
    Clyde: One of the few good things about the CCP virus is the supply of foreign students has dried up. So the ‘tertiary institutions’ are doing a starve. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
    
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    March 4, 2021 5:53pm
- surfing
  
  Have all tribes agreed on which flag is the ‘maori’ flag? Just asking, my understanding is that maori could not agree on a flag. But, could be wrong.
  
  The actual flag itself is ugly. I’m sure maori could come up with a better design.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:42am
- James Stephenson
  
  I dunno about you, but red, black and white flags always make me feel a bit uneasy.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:05pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Red, White, and Blue are OK with me though. One flying on my spa/bbq/patio deck
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:50pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Moari flag means nothing to me other than division of New Zealand. I guess I was born in the wrong Country maybe?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc
      
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      March 4, 2021 2:56pm
pdm

I was interested to see/hear Prime Minister Ardern dumping on the Tamakis for sneaking out of Auckland before 6am Sunday.

Yet no comment or sanctions (that I have seen or heard) on Cabinet Minister Willie Jackson who stayed at the boxing.

Double standards perhaps.
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March 4, 2021 8:58am
Maggie Pie

Twitter bestie Chris Bish (R) is running for Congress.
She asks a most pertinent question of Creepy Joe…

“Why is a song called ‘Wet Ass Pussy’ not considered inappropriate but Dr. Seuss is ?”

https://twitter.com/BishForCongress/status/1366910563905724416
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March 4, 2021 9:02am
- JibberJabber
  
  Why?
  
  Because the Leftists Pedo wing is running an Agenda.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:33am
Yvette

Covid-19: All the guidance for close plus, close, casual plus and casual contacts [1]

Read the above article, link below – but pretend English is a second language to you, unless it already is.

And Close contacts … must not share linen, towels or washclothes [sic], are advised to use their own toothbrush and have a separate supply of products such as soap, toothpaste and toilet paper to others in their household.
… “toilet paper” – so there is a reason for stocking-up after all.

[1] https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300239178/covid19-all-the-guidance-for-close-plus-close-casual-plus-and-casual-contacts
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March 4, 2021 9:08am
Chuck Bird

Is anyone following the allegations against Christian Porter, AG in Oz?
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March 4, 2021 9:09am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Yes. Nasty stuff, but unlikely to lead anywhere given his denial and the death of the complainant, unless more evidence emerges through the coroner’s inquest.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:22am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  vaguely…
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:31am
- Maggie Pie
  
  We watched him last night on ‘Bolt’.
  My partner thought he looked like ‘a dead man walking’.
  
  Just saying.
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:34am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yes, he’s a victim of two opposition attack-dog senators:
    Penny Wong (Labor) and
    Sarah Hanson-Young (Greens)
    The facts of the alleged rape or non-event are irrelevant to them when it comes to gaining a Govt scalp. In assisting them is a Battalion strength of radical feminists in the ABC.
    If he does return to Parliament, the aforementioned senators and other opposition members will never let him forget it. As for the ABC, they all go and get pissed on the strength of their assassination of another male politician.
    Meanwhile, the deputy leader of the opposition is in a similar position albeit his accuser is alive and has given evidence to Victoria’s Police but Crickets from the ABC or the aforementioned two senators.
    POWER CORRUPTS!
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:00am
- Martin Williams
  
  He’s a creep who is constantly being told to leave young women alone. I’d be surprised if he survives this but then, it is Australia, a place where such behaviour is celebrated.
  
  In a spectacular piece of victim-blaming, LNP and coalition minister Linda Reynolds does her career no good either:
  
  Linda Reynolds referred to Brittany Higgins as a ‘lying cow’ in front of staff, after her former media adviser went public about an alleged rape in Parliament House.
  
  https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/defence-minister-linda-reynolds-openly-called-brittany-higgins-a-lying-cow/news-story/eca38d5e36b8ecb6458fa33e89462d91
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:37am
  - doublehappy
    
    The one thing I have gleaned from this is that no evidence I have seen put forward would convict. In my form of democracy that means he is innocent and should be free to live his life. There have been lots of cases that are proven to be revenge attacks and a means of getting utu. I say innocent until PROVEN guilty.
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:07pm
  - Nickc2
    
    He’s a creep who is constantly being told to leave young women alone.
    
    Just where did this come from Martin?
    Supporting evidence please!!!
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:43pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Chuck Bird:
  
  There are similarities with the Richard Worth honeytrap saga, but also crucial differences.
  
  The problem for Christian Porter is that, in politics, mud sticks. Last year ABC Four Corners delved into his background, along with allegations involving another MP, and found material that raised questions about his attitude towards women. I think going back in time to things that he said and did in his university days was questionable and, as I recall, Australian journalists were divided on the public interest value of that material.
  
  My guess is that Scott Morrison will eventually announce an independent inquiey, but it’s hard to see what that will achieve, given that the allegations relate to something that may or may not have happened 30+ years ago, given that one party has committed suicide, and given that the New South Wales police has closed its investigation on the basis of “insufficient admissible evidence”. This is politics.
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:45am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  He couldn’t remember going to a named restaurant with her, it didn’t open until a year after the said liaison.they may as well let the ABC decide the guilt of people, pointless having a judicial system.
  Trial by media is now well and truly entrenched.
  Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:38am
  - Nickc2
    
    Well said Greg. No doubt Martin sees things differently!
    
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    March 4, 2021 3:59pm
Jack5

BBC debate on whether British Jews are an ethnic minority stirs controversy:

https://www.jta.org/2021/03/02/global/bbc-debate-on-whether-jews-are-an-ethnic-minority-group-sparks-outrage?

Note another article’s headline at the foot of the linked piece. Wow: was Superman Jewish?
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March 4, 2021 9:18am
rouppe

Amazingly, there was actually work done to turn NZ into Venezuela
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March 4, 2021 9:19am
Happychappy

Well it was only a matter of time for a young Journalist to come up with a plan to help her Generation and could blame her after watching and seeing Jacinda and Labour bailout the media so older Journalists could keep their cushy jobs.
Laura Walter’s wants the Government to wipe all Student Loans and believes it would help the economy to do so .
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/a-case-for-cancelling-student-debt. This is from people that call baby boomers selfish and greedy so is this the pot calling the kettle or has she really got a point.
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March 4, 2021 9:29am
I remember when

Remember the Auckland Marist College covid cluster?
So how does it compare with the present super spreading Papatoetoe/South Auckland cluster.
Of course the circumstances aren’t the same but the evidence suggests there has been considerable fear mongering.
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March 4, 2021 9:32am
- MCos
  
  The evidence suggests to me there’s been big advances in track and trace & isolation in the last year, otherwise we’d be in level four by now.
  Infected people isolated at home. Testing was expensive and not done in bulk as today.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If you thought the Dr Suess nonsense was bad, wait until the woke wanks start on ‘Woody Wood Pecker’
3 names for a penis LOL .Only so many hours in a day and they are working overtime
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March 4, 2021 9:34am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Will we still be allowed to refer to SB2 as…. ‘stiffy’ ?
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:54am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Someone (I can’t recall who) cane up with the name “Lord Stiffy of St Lukes”. It sounds like an important title!
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:04am
    - Swifty
      
      I claim that title Nostra.
      
      But I think it was Lord Stiffboy….or Stiffyboy, I can’t remember which.
      
      🙂
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:36am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Is he the wannabe predator ogling under-age girls and boasting about it online?
      
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      March 4, 2021 11:47am
  - kevn
    
    @Maggie… The original(s) sb was also known as ‘septic boy’.
    
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    March 4, 2021 10:15am
burt

Look out for 200 new members joining the Labour Party so they can get discharged without conviction and name suppression.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124421047/left-in-limbo-police-backlog-of-sexual-assault-cases-continues-to-worsen
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March 4, 2021 9:45am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh the cops won’t have time to get around to nasty things like rape and violation and abuse of little kiddies…
  they’re out checking Covid-19 lockdown call-outs.
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:01am
fernglas

Karl du Fresne questions the independence and judgment of the media:
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/03/karl-du-fresne-right-to-say-what-you.html
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March 4, 2021 9:55am
- doublehappy
  
  What a breath of fresh air this guy is. A new national newspaper with him as the editor would be wonderful. I would subscribe.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:19pm
  - Jack5
    
    And fair praise from Karl for the Christchurch Star, owned by the Otago Daily Times mob.
    
    Barry Clarke, an old-style crime reporter, edits the Star. He’s of the type from whom came the quip: “A journalist is a reporter who owns two suits.”
    
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    March 4, 2021 1:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The mess that our Government is creating…

Firstly, New Zealanders have been urged to call out rule-breakers without this being an explicit instruction to tell the authorities.

If there is no shared bridge of reason and respect, this kind of message from those in power can backfire. Situations involving individuals and crowds, armed with a sense of self-importance or a belief they should enforce the rules, can become dangerous.

At a time when tension is already elevated in the community, what might start with the best of intentions can end up with undesirable and disproportionate outcomes. From confrontations over mask wearing to social media pile-ons over what someone may or may not have said or done, the risks are high.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK2103/S00060/lots-of-law-not-enough-order-the-government-must-be-clearer-about-dealing-with-covid-rule-breakers.htm
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March 4, 2021 10:03am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Effectively, the govt is inciting a breach or breaches of the peace–an ancient criminal act, the foundation of the Police. Incitement implies conspiracy so they are a joint offender with those they incite.
  The Gobblement have so little understanding of their constitutional responsibilities it is very concerning.
  
  Can we get our money back from Winston for bestowing Ardern upon our New Tyranny (Niu Tireni)?
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:48am
  - SB2
    
    Kev O’Brien, you had your chances last year and lost bigly.
    Only another 3 and less years to wait.
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:10pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Ardern is self destructing as I expected. Time is on my side. She will throw up her hands in horror when the economic tsunami hits.
      
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      March 4, 2021 1:31pm
curry4me

ASTERISK PRESIDENCY: Episode 7.
Direct from Harveywood, here is this weeks episode of Asterisk Presidency. Brought to you by the CCP, Game Stop, Wall Street and Burisma.
Will Beijing Biden still have sole launch authority? Will Game Stop shares go up another 100%? Will the lights go on in Texas? Was Beijing Biden informed about the air strike in Syria? Is ‘VP’ Harris still ticked off that she wasn’t?
Does Beijing Biden get a Nobel Prize if he bombs five more countries? President Trump spoke for an hour at CPAC. Can Beijing Biden even stay awake that long? Will the FBI recover Nancy’s hand sanitizer? What about the lap top? Does she care?
Meanwhile, no political jokes at the 2021 Golden Globes, because Beijing Biden is the biggest joke ever. Will Beijing Biden get another MAGA crowd at his next trip? Now the ‘administration’ has confronted the Andrew [‘granny killer’] Cuomo problem; will there be others? Who will be first? How many Covid positive immigrants will ICE be forced to release next week? Will Le Bron, and Disney pull out of China now that homosexuality has been declared a mental illness? Will the National guard switch to MREs?

Stay tuned folks!
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March 4, 2021 10:07am
- doublehappy
  
  Well reported. All (well most) in a nutshell.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:23pm
rangitoto

Anyone using Google Chrome Browser, update to the latest version ASAP. There’s a nasty zero day exploit.
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March 4, 2021 10:20am
- doublehappy
  
  Please explain.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:24pm
  - rangitoto
    
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-patches-actively-exploited-chrome-browser-zero-day-vulnerability/
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:48pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…….

Could it have anything to do with her being a black woman ?

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1367212448072237057
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March 4, 2021 10:22am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, and a consumate gold digger and not even in the same class as say the troublesome Fergie.
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:11am
  - oldfella
    
    Harry’s first wife. /s
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:19pm
- SB2
  
  MP, for your interest the Duchess of Sussex identifies herself of being of mixed race. Her mother African American and her father European.
  
  But why does it matter?
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:23pm
- MCos
  
  So Meghan is being investigated by Buckingham Palace because she didn’t get on with some workers.
  In the meantime Prince Andrew, wanted for questioning by the FBI, can carry on regardless.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:21pm
cas

Another event cancelled – the NZ Surf Lifesaving Championships- due to the uncertainty of whether the levels will change. Even if everyone drops down a level Auckland would still be in Level 2. I feel for all those who have selflessly patrolled our beaches over the summer as volunteers and were looking forward to a bit of competition and fun at the end of the season.
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March 4, 2021 10:22am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Name one time in human history when the group fighting to ban books and censor free speech were the good guys.
I’ll wait …
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March 4, 2021 10:24am
- Swifty
  
  Are we the baddies?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:12am
  - SB2
    
    One comment,
    
    H T Awesome
    
    High ranking Nazis being trialed at Nuremberg: Are we the baddies?
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:26pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Classic sketch.
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:39pm
- Ehlana
  
  It’s now, Steve, of course. This isn’t like those other times, when conservative/right wing types wanted to ban anything that challenged their narrow world view.
  Now is the time that those with the keenest understanding are seeking out and confronting the horrors of our society – rooting out colonial, sexist, racist, genderist attitudes and influences wherever they hide, that we may build a greater…
  
  carried away with excitement, topples over and disappears from sight
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:15am
Tauhei Notts

On a politics blog site I can post this.
At the Kiwitahi School the principal showed pupils a picture of the parliamentary buildings, prior to the local M.P. giving a short speech about his job.
M.P. “Who knows what my job is?”
Pupil. “Keeping bees”.
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March 4, 2021 10:25am
Ruahine

I see where Labours Propaganda machine has found a safer individual to villify.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-te-anau-locals-criticise-brian-tamakis-lockdown-defying-south-island-travels/6FOEPR46D6XXAH7JAWI4UFKSUE/
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March 4, 2021 10:31am
Rusty

Looks like the great “reset” experiment is working well in NZ.

Let the small businesses go under and break the will of the people through lockdowns.

Everyone will end up accepting a new plan for their lives called reset.
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March 4, 2021 10:41am
WaveyDavey

Bernard’s gonna Bernard…

Ah Bernard Hickey…

The financial commentator who got things so spectacularly wrong on housing that he sold up in Auckland to move to Wellington to await the “inevitable” property crash – still waiting eh Bernard?

Shame that return to Auckland looks further and further away huh?

The commentator who wants to see pensioners in penury with a desired 50% house price crash because young people (who have the time to build a financial future) are more important than older. Or again, is it because he has a vested interest?

See also the media (and Labour) darling economist Shamubeel Eaqub whose advice to rent, not buy and wait for the inevitable price crash was responsible for untold thousands not buying their own home. All well and good when you’re paying mate’s rates for a nice Epsom property owned by a family member. Mind you he eventually bottled it and also ran off to Wellington to buy.

If there’s anyone you shouldn’t take economic or property advice from it’s this pair.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/124418784/yay-and-boo-for-new-zealands-soaring-house-prices

Somehow I don’t think this will make it past the Stuff censors
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March 4, 2021 10:46am
- WaveyDavey
  
  and it didn’t…
  
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  March 4, 2021 11:50am
- Inandout
  
  WD, Hickey is a TV reporter turned financial ‘expert’. ‘Nough said.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:34pm
curry4me

https://rumble.com/vealtl-cuomo-five-under-fire-for-covid-nursing-home-policies-as-cuomo-faces-third-.html

Four More Governors with Nursing Home Issues.

Five Democratic Governors are currently on the verge of imploding due to similar policies regarding nursing homes during COVID-19. [So it isn’t just Andrew ‘granny killer’ Cuomo. He has company. Will the Dems throw any of them under the bus?]
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March 4, 2021 10:48am
curry4me

https://www.theepochtimes.com/4-arrested-in-texas-on-150-counts-of-voter-fraud_3715419.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-03-01-1

Voter Fraud Arrests in Texas.

A South Texas county justice of the peace was among four people arrested last month on 150 counts of voter fraud related to the 2018 primary election in Medina County, according to reports.
The Texas attorney general’s Election Fraud Unit on Feb. 11 arrested Medina County Justice of the Peace Tomas Ramirez, after earlier detaining Leonor Rivas Garza, Eva Ann Martinez, and Mary Balderrama on allegations of election fraud, News4SA reported. [This can’t be so. Brian ‘gender neutral Potato Head’ Stelter told me so. And, I always believe CNN. /sarc]
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March 4, 2021 10:49am
- RichardX
  
  You are aware the 2018 Primary mentioned is not the 2020 General Election right?
  
  I can’t find any reporting from CNN claiming there was no fraud in the 2018 Primary. Can you provide a link?
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:53pm
Surely Knott

The academics say that Dr Seuss is racist because the majority of his characters are white and thus white centrist so therefore perpetuates white supremacy. *Newstalk ZB

Meanwhile acclaimed black author, Toni Morrison says about her work, “Most writers claim to abhor labels but Morrison has always welcomed the term “black writer”. “I’m writing for black people,” she says, “in the same way that Tolstoy was not writing for me, a 14-year-old coloured girl from Lorain, Ohio. I don’t have to apologise or consider myself limited because I don’t [write about white people] – which is not absolutely true, there are lots of white people in my books. The point is not having the white critic sit on your shoulder and approve it”

Good for her. Is she a racist? Because she writes about black characters from a black perspective. Is she a black supremacist.

No. Does every author have to write from the perspective of ever race in their books. No. We can still create a more balanced society by ensuring that writers of other ethnicities get fair opportunities so there is balance overall. Toni Morrison reached the pinnacle of literary success because of her inarguable talent. And she was supported by Oprah’s book club one the most influential literary book list in the world, again created by a wealthy influential black woman.

To have to go back 100 years to try and find issues of early dr seuss injustice to prove inequality shows how far we have come.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/entertainment/six-dr-seuss-books-wont-be-published-anymore-because-of-harmful-imagery/?utm_source=zb&utm_campaign=article_link&utm_content=related
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March 4, 2021 11:28am
- cmm
  
  If anyone reads the Star Belly Sneechers they will immediately understand that Dr Seuss was completely opposing discrimination, racism etc.
  
  But this is no different to blaming colonialist Europeans for slavery when nobody did more to combat slavery than the Brits, especially the British Army and Royal Navy. So what do we do? We rip down any statues to do with those fine institutions!
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:31pm
- Fletch
  
  Meanwhile, children’s picture books like King and King and I Am Jazz are far more damaging to kids than any Dr Seuss book.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:47pm
  - SB2
    
    Fletch, far more damaging?
    
    Why?
    
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    March 4, 2021 3:11pm
Chuck Bird

Sue Grey explaining some background about the Mum and Baby detained in MIQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22wWMm0l1T4&feature=youtu.be

Sue was on with Peter Williams at 9:30 this morning.
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March 4, 2021 11:51am
- cmm
  
  You can hardly call it “detained” when they entered on a purely voluntary basis, knowing what they were going into.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:25pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    They did not. Did you watch the video?
    
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    March 4, 2021 12:57pm
- doublehappy
  
  Absolute crap by crazy officials. The baby was under 6 months when it entered MIQ, the mother followed the rules and should be free to go. What is it with these people?
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:39pm
Fletch

Heritage Foundation takes a close look at the H.R 1 bill that Democrats want to pass. It’s like they’ve taken a look at the list of election rules and protections and decided to break every one to make it easy to cheat. Federalizing elections, banning state ID laws, allowing same-day registering to vote, allowing online voter registration, etc

What H.R. 1 Would Do

* Seize the authority of states to regulate voter registration and the voting process by forcing states to implement early voting, automatic voter registration, same-day registration, online voter registration, and no-fault absentee balloting.
* Make it easier to commit fraud and promote chaos at the polls through same-day registration, as election officials would have no time to verify the accuracy of voter registration information and the eligibility of an individual to vote and could not anticipate the number of ballots and precinct workers that would be needed at specific polling locations.
* Hurt voter turnout through 15 days of mandated early voting by diffusing the intensity of get-out-the-vote efforts; it would raise the cost of campaigns. Voters who vote early don’t have the same information as those who vote on Election Day, missing late-breaking developments that could affect their choices.
* Degrade the accuracy of registration lists by requiring states to automatically register all individuals (as opposed to “citizens”) from state and federal databases, such as state Departments of Motor Vehicles, corrections and welfare offices, and federal agencies such as the Social Security Administration, the Department of Labor, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services of the Department of Health and Human Services. This would register large numbers of ineligible voters, including aliens, and cause multiple or duplicate registrations of the same individuals and put federal agencies in charge of determining a person’s domicile for voting purposes (as well as that individual’s taxing state).
* Constitute a recipe for massive voter registration fraud by hackers and cyber criminals through online voter registration that is not tied to an existing state record, such as a driver’s license. It would make it a criminal offense for a state official to reject a voter registration application even when it is rejected “under color of law” because the official believes the individual is ineligible to vote. It would also require states to allow 16-year-olds and 17-year-olds to register; when combined with a ban on voter ID and restrictions on the ability to challenge the eligibility of a voter, this would effectively ensure that underage individuals could vote with impunity.
* Require states to count ballots cast by voters outside of their assigned precincts, overriding the precinct system used by almost all states that allows election officials to monitor votes, staff polling places, provide enough ballots, and prevent election fraud.
* Mandate no-fault absentee ballots, which are the tool of choice for vote thieves. It would ban witness signature or notarization requirements for absentee ballots; force states to accept absentee ballots received up to 10 days after Election Day as long as they are postmarked by Election Day; and require states to allow vote trafficking (vote harvesting) so that any third parties—including campaign staffers and political consultants—can pick up and deliver absentee ballots.

MORE – https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/the-facts-about-hr-1-the-the-people-act-2021
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March 4, 2021 12:01pm
- doublehappy
  
  Yes very frightening in what was once the most democratic country in the world. When you look at the last election and the fraud that took place in that, then changing these rules to suit a totalitarian Marxist government will be a wall in the park.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:43pm
  - Inandout
    
    double, the mere suggestion of US voter fraud in the last election is enough to be detwitterised and have the liberals on KB become enraged. Best let history play out.
    
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    March 4, 2021 5:42pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  They are truly in the Biden-China mire. Next the debasement of the USD.
  I’m placing no bets on the 5 year outcome.
  
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  March 4, 2021 1:39pm
oldfella

According to the Horrid, they’re going gangbusters. If you can believe anything the Horrid says…

“The extraordinary news events of the past 12 months have seen audiences turn to the NZ Herald – and its informative, trusted and quality journalism – in record numbers online and in print.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/nz-herald-audience-numbers-soar-again-past-the-magic-2-million-mark/5DBZION2IW6GCFAPNEOFBE662I/

I notice the comments section is not open for readers feedback. Wonder why?
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March 4, 2021 12:29pm
- doublehappy
  
  They won’t need any government money then.
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:45pm
- The Scunner Campbell
  
  Not according to this site. The are No.35 after after Hire Industry Association of New Zealand.
  https://blog.feedspot.com/new_zealand_news_websites/
  
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  March 4, 2021 12:53pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    That’s just the Herald’s TV blog. Oddly though, The NZ Herald itself is not ranked or listed.
    
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    March 4, 2021 2:40pm
- Inandout
  
  oldfella, well if you take into account Fraser House and all the Labour MPs…nah. Why are their stacks of unsold Heralds in the supermarket? I think they are mistaken about ‘soaring’; only eagles do that, not turkeys. Waiting patiently for the next newspaper official audit to be published.
  
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  March 4, 2021 1:07pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  “online and in print” a pound to a pinch of goat poo their dead-tree business is on the skids. Why, you could probably buy it for 50 cents.
  
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  March 4, 2021 2:39pm
cmm

It looks like the little piggies in Christchurch are seeing the bottom of the trough and wondering when the farmer is going to bring more slops.

A lot of the council jobs only exist because of terrible organisation and an over-commitment in the services they supply.

We could cut overall staff numbers by a good 30% and have a more functional council.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/124405327/stressed-and-unhappy-christchurch-city-council-staff-worry-about-their-future
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March 4, 2021 12:39pm
- Ian Boag
  
  I know it’s a spoilsport question, but could you enlighten us with the details of (say) three significant council activities that should be cut by 30%. Supported with a few numbers maybe?
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:48pm
Maggie Pie

When this popped up on twitter, I instantly thort of my partner’s mum.
After spending the best part of 40k on her facelift, she refuses to use her ‘SuperGold Card’ for fear of spoiling the illusion 😀

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1367228473949970434
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March 4, 2021 12:57pm
- Inandout
  
  Wow Maggie, what a fulsome female and young looking male. Must be healthy living on the pig’s back.
  
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  March 4, 2021 1:01pm
stroker08

The “Peoples Princess” starts copping some curry due to her handling of isolation messaging. Cue the spin doctors to save the day..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-on-parenting-cooking-and-covid-19-in-magazine-interview/VQ4CLLB4PRZ44EJX5UCZBABWRU/

You can set your watch to this nonsense.
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March 4, 2021 2:00pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  First version originally said “Updated”.
  
  Also, can’t find a single news item attributing any type of comment today from any senior cabinet minister, and , Dr Ash banished to his own office to handle 1 pm media update without any minder.
  
  How strange//
  
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  March 4, 2021 2:24pm
- rouppe
  
  Distraction alert!
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:02pm
Jack5

Jacindarella waved her witch wand and the untapped gas and oil of New Zealand was frozen, left for a more rational people of these islands centuries into the future.

The Moscow news agency, RT, reports Russian corporation Gazprom plans to double by 2025 its liquefied gas (LPG) exports from the latest year’s seven million tons.

And Iran plans to turn its North Pars gas field into a major LPG exporter to Asia. Iran expects LPG production to reach 25 million tonnes a year.

Our gas could have made us rich, Jacinda.
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March 4, 2021 2:03pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She does not want us being rich, she just wants the elite socialists being rich so as to retain power.
  Capitalism is evil you know
  
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  March 4, 2021 2:33pm
- krazykiwi
  
  New Zealand being rich has a Ardern value weighting of x0.00001.
  
  Receiving praise from UN big-noters has an Ardern value weighting of x1000.
  
  There simply is no cost to high for current and future NZers. We must bear this cost happily in order for Ardern to receive the fawning adoration that she so deeply craves.
  
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  March 4, 2021 2:35pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Simply Political economical Sabotage of the highest order.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:18pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

They cancelled your feelings
They cancelled your thoughts
They cancelled the Dr. Seuss
Books that you bought
We’ll cancel your culture
And history they said
They even cancelled
Poor Mr. Potato Head
They’ll cancel your clothes
And the shoes that you wear
They’ll cancel your opinions
And the style of your hair
You warriors of justice
I ask you to please
Stop trying to cancel
The air that I breathe
For I live in America
The Land of the Free
And one thing is certain
You won’t cancel me!
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March 4, 2021 2:22pm
- SB2
  
  Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They canceled Dr. Seuss?
  
  Rubbish like the rest!
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:08pm
- MCos
  
  “For I live in America
  The Land of the Free”
  
  So this North Shore thingey is just bullshit.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not very bright are you?
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:03am
I remember when

Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil: Attenshun, Attenshun:
Border Control requirements for all citizens attempting to leave Auckland by air for lower Covid Alert Level areas .
All citizens must carry their identity card showing proof of identity, proof of means of departing and proof of legitimate residence outside of the Auckland Covid Alert Level 3 region.
On arrival at airport please join queue and circle the perimeter of the airport three times watching flights, one of which was probably yours, depart.
Please note that as this can take up to 5 minutes each border official may only be able to deal with 12 departees per hour.
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March 4, 2021 2:32pm
Fuzzysnuggleduck

From what I am told (hearsay, but solid) Hamilton city has a community case of Covid.

Offical communication is being prepared in case of/for potential lock-down.
It has been suggested the case related to the Six60 concert on Sat.
It was always on the cards.
Interesting that the media was only saying several hours back there was no evidence of cases from Six60.
………the person who passed this on to me has given a pretty solid governmental source for this Hamilton case.
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March 4, 2021 2:38pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  This does depend on the listening/interpreting skills of the person quoting said-governmental source of course.
  “In case of”
  “Because of”.
  But preparations are being made, that is clear enough.
  The mystery to me is due to the fact that Covid cases are normally tallied in the morning, ahead of the Saint Ash and Chippie show.
  
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  March 4, 2021 2:49pm
- fernglas
  
  You should catch up with the woman on the Covid 19 Facebook page who has a friend who tested positive a day or so ago and is mystified as to why the case has not been reported.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:05pm
- Inandout
  
  Fuzzy, I am planning on visiting Hamilton in a week and I have a list of alternate routes to gain entry.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:50pm
Michael

Anyone still interested in the cricket, now that only Spark are showing local games?
If so you might have noticed that Kyle Jamieson, the bloke that Royal Challengers Bangalore forked out 2.86 million for , is having a bit of a problem bowling to those bloody Aussies in the 20/20 series.
So far his figures have been
First T20 1.32 [off three.]
Second ,0.56.
Third ,0.38.
I think RCB might have gone overboard based on the hype.
Of course, Jamieson can bat as well, but 2.86 million?
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March 4, 2021 2:42pm
- MCos
  
  I’d have to say I was surprised at the amount.
  He’s clearly behind Southee, Boult, Santner and probably Sodhi in the NZ lineup.
  Furthermore.
  He looked no great shakes playing for Auckland.
  Test cricket is where he shines at the moment.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:48pm
Michael

I have never been a fan of voting on kiwiblog, that’s why I don’t tick any comments . But I do wonder why some comments are hidden just because of a low rating. I know we can still see those comments if we want to, but why are they hidden in the first place?
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March 4, 2021 2:50pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Hiding downticked comments pre-dated moderation. It was a community driven mechanism for removing offensive material from the feed.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:10pm
Michael

Fsd
Looks like you have been misinformed.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/124428297/covid19-no-indication-of-positive-coronavirus-case-at-hamiltons-six60-concert
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March 4, 2021 2:56pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Stuff is a state-controlled media organ. Their ‘no indication’ is no indication of the truth, more guidance on what to think until the truth is scripted for presentation to us.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:14pm
  - MCos
    
    “Stuff is a state-controlled media organ.”
    
    What a load of shit. You’re just paranoid.
    
    Maybe it was a state-controlled media organ when National ran the ship?
    
    RNZ is public owned, but it is not a state-controlled media organ.
    
    All these publications have editorial independence, unlike RT, articles from which I notice people occasionally post here.
    
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    March 4, 2021 4:00pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      No it’s not. No I am not. Yes it was. That was fun. Can we play again?
      
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      March 4, 2021 7:01pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Yes, saw that, and commented on that.
  But also had word on the communication being prepared locally. That is a fact.
  Only question is whether ‘in case of’ or ‘because of’, but the person involved said ‘because of’ (community case).
  I even pointed out to them that not long ago the media said the opposite.
  At the very least, preparations are keeping people gainfully employed.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:15pm
theoldbloke

I have been an avid KB follower for more than 10 years. Usually my first “view” of the day!

Maybe I am getting old and tired.
Or is the Blog become old & tired?

But maybe it would up the level of comment if there was a daily comment limit per day per post.

It seems that every other comment is from one of the “team of tragics”” who seem to want to comment on EVERYTHING!!! and contribute buggar all as a result.

I would set the limit as 3 comments in a specific post
or 6 comments in General Debate.

as at 3pmish today 302 comments here/ Mostly inane drivel.
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March 4, 2021 3:03pm
- Jack5
  
  It’s free to read, and the number of posts and ticks for and against indicate Kiwiblog’s healthy and well read.
  
  I don’t remember many posts of yours over the last “more than 10 years”, poster Theoldbloke, not to be confused with poster Oldfella.
  
  If Kiwiblog’s typically your first read of the day you won’t find a helluva lot here, unless you are a very late riser.
  
  If it’s all inane drivel, why stick around?
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:21pm
- Nickc2
  
  Most commenters would have their own interpretation as to exactly what is ‘inane drivel’. Just saying.
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:26pm
- oldfella
  
  Which team do you want to belong to?
  (a) Team of 5 Million? (or)
  (b) Team of KB Tragics?
  The clock has started…
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:36pm
- Steve Todd
  
  May I suggest you take on board what I now refer to as the “Tall Man Doctrine”: if you don’t like a comment, don’t @#&%$ read it.
  
  (See https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/12/general_debate_29_december_2020.html/comment-page-1#comment-2865432.)
  
  For goodness sake, just ignore them and move on! It’s not hard to do.
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:41pm
Master Mariner

Its starting to escalate in Myanmar

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/3/un-envoy-says-38-dead-in-bloodiest-day-since-coup-hit-myanmar
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March 4, 2021 3:07pm
- MCos
  
  I notice things have become far more brutal since govt/govt talks with Thailand whose army has a history of attacking protestors and an endless string of coups.
  The current Thai PM Prayut Chan-o-cha is worth a look on Google.
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:09pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yep,, Both military rulers however Thailand has a monarchy and Myanmar has “mother of the country”.
    The military got advise early on from Thailand and hence were we are.
    Both Buddists countries too FWIW.
    
    Just left Ranong Thai/Myanmar border Yesterday and heading back up north.
    
    Port call pencilled in a week, Yangon again. Still no luck getting impossible MIQ vouchers.
    
    Such is life, as Ned Kelly would say
    
    Next few days will be telling.
    
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    March 4, 2021 6:03pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Chris Hipkins just told us there’s always emergency places kept aside in MIQ
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/covid-19-response-minister-chris-hipkins-reassures-kiwis-in-myanmar-amid-violent-protests.html
      
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      March 4, 2021 7:02pm
- Nickc2
  
  News tonight stated space in quarantine will be found for NZers returning from Myanmar but NZ will not be assisting in their evacuation.
  Does this help you?
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Open and transparent Government?

Not in NZ

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/04-03-2021/new-zealands-very-very-slow-covid-19-vaccine-programme-is-still-largely-secret/
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March 4, 2021 3:08pm
- fernglas
  
  It’s only secret because they haven’t dreamed it up yet.
  
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  March 4, 2021 3:14pm
Fletch

People often go on about male privilege, but it’s not all roses for men. Men are 4 times more likely to die at work than women, almost 80% of suicides are male, 72% of homeless in shelters are male, men are more likely to be in prison and because of that are most raped – there are around 300,000 rapes of men in U.S prisons a year. Men are also most likely to be the victim of homicide (78%) and are most likely to die in combat (over 90%).

https://www.returnofkings.com/66555/an-infographic-showing-what-male-privilege-really-looks-like

https://avoiceformen.com/the-facts-about-men-and-boys/
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March 4, 2021 3:15pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Hey, Male privilege sounds almost as crap as white privilege!
  
  Almost seems like the having a willy or pale skin ISN’T a guarantee of economic success, fulfillment, ease of life and lording it over others!
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:24pm
I remember when

Oops sorry @Ralph T 11.11am
Wrong key.
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March 4, 2021 3:21pm
Master Mariner

Coming to town near you.

“Freedom House also said governments have used the COVID-19 pandemic “to consolidate power and suppress dissent”.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/3/2020-15th-straight-year-declining-global-freedom-report

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2021/democracy-under-siege
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March 4, 2021 3:39pm
- krazykiwi
  
  From the article:
  
  As a lethal pandemic, economic and physical insecurity, and violent conflict ravaged the world in 2020, democracy’s defenders sustained heavy new losses in their struggle against authoritarian foes, shifting the international balance in favor of tyranny. Incumbent leaders increasingly used force to crush opponents and settle scores, sometimes in the name of public health, while beleaguered activists—lacking effective international support—faced heavy jail sentences, torture, or murder in many settings.
  
  These withering blows marked the 15th consecutive year of decline in global freedom. The countries experiencing deterioration outnumbered those with improvements by the largest margin recorded since the negative trend began in 2006. The long democratic recession is deepening.
  
  The impact of the long-term democratic decline has become increasingly global in nature, broad enough to be felt by those living under the cruelest dictatorships, as well as by citizens of long-standing democracies. Nearly 75 percent of the world’s population lived in a country that faced deterioration last year.
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:18pm
Inandout

I am amazed at the tenacity of a large black spider that decided to hang onto the swimming pool skimmer just before the suction vent. Anyway I poured the mixed chlorine direct into the filter pipe and all over the spider before realising. I thought the chlorine would have killed the spider but it clung there tenaciously before I managed to trap it in a net. On release from the net it scampered away, apparently unhurt. If arachnids and insects get the upper hand in our world we are doomed.
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March 4, 2021 3:40pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  It will be back, and with reinforcements.
  You surely pissed it off with your chemical assault and displacing it from it’s home.
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:26pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  I thought Princess and her brood had. They’re just hiding away today because they’ve got burnt a little in the last couple of days – a touch of bleach perhaps?
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:29pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I do believe in a nuclear war that a cockroach and one human would survive, can’t remember who that was
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:32pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Chuck Norris?
    
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    March 4, 2021 5:00pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Of course it was Mike. H1 agreed
      
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      March 4, 2021 5:59pm
  - Inandout
    
    SO, indeed, but a did read that a cockroach surviving a nuclear war was perhaps an urban myth as they are as susceptible to radiation as the next bug. I know the big Gisborne variety drop dead readily after spraying, much sooner than a bloody blowfly.
    
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    March 4, 2021 5:58pm
- krazykiwi
  
  If the spider was a Labour supporter, it would have gone off to organise de-platforming of all pool owners, along with a social media campaign to abuse the same group.
  
  If the spider was an ACT supporter, it would have just gone back to work, grateful for its freedom
  
  If the Spider was a National supporter it would have been a bit confused, and gone for a nice lie down.
  
  If the Spider was a Greens supporter it would have headed off to lobby the UN about the evils of DiHydrogen Mono-oxide
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:33pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Sue Kedgley is a renowned expert on this DiHydrogen Mono-oxide killer.
    The internet never forgets
    
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    March 4, 2021 4:52pm
Swifty

Nimrod Workman: Oh Death (1983)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfn1cxZCAJk
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March 4, 2021 3:56pm
Fletch

Dr Seuss book sales are BOOMING on Amazon.

Sales of Dr. Seuss children’s books continue booming a day after the left tried to “cancel” the author’s works on his birthday.

Dr. Seuss’s books were among the leading 42 titles on the top 50 list of Amazon’s “movers and shakers” on Wednesday morning after the ban was announced.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/03/dr-seuss-books-hold-42-of-top-50-on-amazon-sales-ranking-chart/
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March 4, 2021 3:57pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Now, I dunno if this FB link works. I have not tried other sources, or sauces.
https://www.facebook.com/100007938256313/videos/2892585891015991/
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March 4, 2021 4:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I can see myself getting a penalty from Kiwiblog soon. Some/not all Mods have been showing their true colours with TDS, they can not just admit that there are cheats and liars (even in the NZ Govt)
  I will baulk at any untruths, is that fair for me to stand up???
  
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  March 4, 2021 4:40pm
  - fernglas
    
    As long as you don’t get angry because other people stand up for truths you can’t accept, like that Trump lost fairly and squarely.
    
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    March 4, 2021 5:15pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Baa
      
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      March 4, 2021 6:01pm
Michael

krazykiwi
So far as I am aware DPF has always deleted comments that he believed were too offensive. From reading some of the hidden comments I don’t believe they are offensive . The majority of kiwibloggers might not agree with those comments , but that does not make them offensive. Kiwiblog is a right wing blog. I wonder if left wing blogs hide comments because they have a low rating?
Makes it look like one side doesn’t want to read what the other side might have to say. I would have thought downticking a comment would have made the point. Not that I agree with the ticking system , as I have already pointed out.
I guess if you don’t want your comment to be hidden you just make it after lunch by which time the number of bloggers seems to have tapered off, so one is unlikely to get a low rating.
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March 4, 2021 4:53pm
Michael

Steve ,
How can you make a decision as to whether or not you don’t like a comment if you don’t read that comment in the first place?
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March 4, 2021 4:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  What comment was that? You are not following the thread sweetie
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:03pm
- Steve Todd
  
  A fair question, Michael.
  
  We all know whose comments we are likely to consider it worth reading, and those whose comments we consider are not.
  
  I say, when you have reached the point that theoldbloke has, you just ignore / skip over the comments of those Kiwibloggers you know you have no time for.
  
  Alternatively, us / he can start to read their comments, just in case, amazingly, they might have put up something worth reading, but, as soon as we / he realise it’s just more ‘drivel’, we / he can bail.
  
  Of course, what theoldbloke is really saying, is that he wants DPF / the Moderators to screen out the ‘drivel’ put up by the commenters that he doesn’t like; to do his hard work for him. How on earth are they going to do that; they’re not mind readers!
  
  Essentially, his 3:03PM comment was itself drivel. Hopefully, he now realises that.
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:10pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Michael:
  
  How can you make a decision as to whether or not you don’t like a comment
  
  Did you see KrazyKiwi’s Kiwiblog Downvote Olympics comment yesterday? The downvote competitors included (former commenters) Philu and William of Ockham and (current commenters) Brian McDonald; Mikenmildagain; and SB2. Some people may look at the name and reflexively downtick.
  
  Anyway, if someone comes to Kiwiblog seeking approval in the form of upticks, then maybe that person needs to find an alternative source of meaning and happiness in his or her life.
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:13pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    Exactly.
    
    Bang on, Nostradamus.
    
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    March 4, 2021 6:26pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING FOX

Remember I said Joe wouldn’t last 6 months?

https://twitter.com/HeyTammyBruce/status/1367240754414968833

If any more proof was needed….
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March 4, 2021 5:16pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And he’s just told Republicans that they think like Neanderthals.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/mar/03/joe-biden-covid-coronavirus-vaccine-xavier-becerra-donald-trump-live-updates
  
  seems these Archaic humans are popping up all over the show.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:30pm
- greybeard
  
  He was always the Trojan Horse to get his deputy into the W.H. as a female black pres.
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:14pm
Martin Williams

Michael Bassett, cancelled.

Very pleasing to see ACT wannabe, frequent podcast guest of fellow traveller Leighton Smith and one time political advisor to Don Brash, Dr Michael Bassett, is permanently banned from NZME.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018786126/nzme-pulls-racism-article-and-bans-bassett

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northland-age/news/response-to-michael-bassetts-racism-on-a-grand-scale/FTQY4NIUVL2ZMZXMRRMA2BKEKU/
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March 4, 2021 5:20pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The left turning on their own.
  
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  March 4, 2021 5:55pm
  - Martin Williams
    
    It’s been over 35 years since Michael Bassett identified with the left, as you well know.
    
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    March 4, 2021 6:05pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Rubbish..
      
      It is over 35 years since NZ Labour identified with the working-class and its socialist origins.
      
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      March 4, 2021 7:06pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        Maggy, the unfortunate truth of the matter is, is that you and Martin are both right.
        
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        March 4, 2021 7:20pm
      - Swifty
        
        Bassett didn’t leave the party – the party left him!
        
        🙂
        
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        March 4, 2021 7:47pm
    - Swifty
      
      He saw the light!
      
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      March 4, 2021 7:46pm
Happychappy

Did anyone else get their census papers today if so how much would you think it would cost to print each pack .
I’m also interested in asking the question of has there always been a question asking if your house was part of a family trust as I am having mind blank and can’t remember if that was a question before.
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March 4, 2021 5:39pm
- Steve Todd
  
  No, not me, Happychappy.
  
  In fact, I don’t expect to receive my “census papers” until the second half of February, 2023.
  
  What, exactly, are you on about?
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:47pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Steve Todd: Well this is what I recieved in my mail box this morning
    Help us get ready for the next census
    Your household has been selected to help us test the next census.
    Your household is one of 20,000 selected to participate.
    Complete forms on tuesday 9 March or earlier if you prefer.
    Go to http://www.cencustest.govt.nz.
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:08pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      Well, why didn’t you say all that in your initial comment?
      
      Do you see now, how your comment was confusing, given that the next Census is not until 7 March 2023?
      
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      March 4, 2021 8:21pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  We always takes Banksie’s advice and put them in the bin.
  
  Just saying.
  
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  March 4, 2021 7:33pm
lazza

“HOLY BAT SHITMAN!”

Yuh gotta see Kiwi 16 year old Nico Porteous’s run on the Olympic’s half pipe?

A score of 84 will put him in the top tier for sure.

Top score to date 89.
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March 4, 2021 5:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

See that spa pool outside, with the drinkies and food all lined up?
Stuff you corksoakers. Hand off your exciting bits for a while
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March 4, 2021 6:07pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  How did you know my bits were exciting?
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:28pm
lazza

“HOLY BAT SHITMAN!” II

Nico tops second run one to come now at 94!

oSmellin gold!

Opps its a replay of 2018 (Dohh! Wot a dork ).
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March 4, 2021 6:17pm
Fletch

Not sure what to think about this. It has been published in Israel and France as well…

A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among “those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2 percent … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination.”

“This scary picture also extends to those below 65,” the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process “0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/experimental-vaccine-death-rate-for-israels-elderly-40-times-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-researchers

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/297051
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March 4, 2021 6:17pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So you are saying one in 500 over 65 died in a 21 day period, ie about a 1 in 10000 chance of dying per day. But at 65 your life expectancy is only about 7000 days. So actually this looks better than normal risk of death. The vaccine does not increase risk of death.
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:24pm
greybeard

When the first race of the America’s Cup finals starts, where will Jacinda, Hippy, Robertson, Waititi, Swarbrick, Clark, etc etc be seen ?
Right up front before the cameras and the TV hosts !
F**k climate change, fossil fuels, and all that boring stuff. They will be fighting to get their hypocritical faces on world TV.
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March 4, 2021 6:31pm
- MCos
  
  There’s one obvious flaw in your comment.
  The world couldn’t give a bag of beans for the America’s Cup.
  
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  March 4, 2021 6:45pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    Perhaps not “the world”, MCos, but you can be certain that New Zealand; the UK; Italy; Australia; the states of New York, Rhode Island, and California, specifically, and the United States, generally; plus, should Luna Rossa win the America’s Cup, Switzerland, France, Germany, Spain; etc., might likely be interested in the America’s Cup. Who knows? Perhaps even China will challenge next time.
    
    My point is, “the world” doesn’t need to be interested in the America’s Cup; only those countries /states that are, need to be.
    
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    March 4, 2021 7:46pm
    - MCos
      
      When the UK boat lost to Luna Rossa I looked at the BBC Sport App to get their take. Nothing.
      
      A bit like our papers when Lydia Ko finishes down the leaderboard.
      
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      March 4, 2021 10:09pm
Cinematic

I’m sensing no apology is pending for this obviously pointless nationwide lockdown.
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March 4, 2021 6:55pm
Maggie Pie

I was just thinking how much I love sucking on dark chocolate.

What does that make me?
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March 4, 2021 7:10pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Normal.
  
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  March 4, 2021 8:07pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    By the way Maggs – know you’ll be interested in this.
    Tried that ‘Japanese MSG Umani’ on the roast veges last night. Tossed them first in S&P and olly oil then sprinked about 1/4 tsp over them. We both thort it provided a real flavor boost!
    Only downside, it had the same effect on me as eating asparagus 🙁
    
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    March 4, 2021 8:32pm
    - sooty
      
      Ah, the racehorse effect!
      
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      March 4, 2021 9:47pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Fat ? 😉
  
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  March 4, 2021 9:43pm
Alan Wilkinson

Awful column by Nat MP’s dad:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/124416887/coronavirus-a-letter-to-my-auckland-cousins-from-the-south
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March 4, 2021 9:56pm
- Jack5
  
  Is Bishop senior really from Balclutha?
  
  A Jaffa adopting an Otago-Southland persona would be a bit like a white singer in “black face”.
  
  However, John Bishop may be a Wellington man. One or two Wellingtonians have visited NZ’s far south on Government business, beginning in the days when Customs was trying to shut down the Hokonui liquor industry.
  
  As the father of an MP, John Bishop can serve NZ by helping to de-Woke the National Party.
  
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  March 4, 2021 10:37pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  That’s the second one I’ve seen from him. If my son became an MP, would I get my random ravings published in the newspaper too?
  
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