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Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

With Adern still deciding how early she will get the vaccine, maybe it should be Ricardo Menendez March, given his critical role in national security, at the front if the line? and [].
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December 28, 2020 8:18am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Good luck with the Mod. with that comment Mick.
  
  [Mod – nothing wrong with that one Captain]
  
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  December 28, 2020 9:05am
  - lifesgood
    
    Uptick for the mod. What on earth is wrong with that comment? Pray do tell Captain.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:00am
- kowtow
  
  When Trumpy said anything marginally differing on Wuflu it was a huge media hyperstorm .
  
  When Merkel , the most powerful xx chromasome person in the world says she ain’t having the OxfordAZ vax , not so much .
  
  Given the Ubermenschen country has such a low view of the jab one vould zink zis vould be a bigly media story.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:11am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    *Ahem*
    
    Regulator concedes process had ‘somehow gone wrong’ and is set to approve vaccine
    
    It’s politicking from France and Germany after the UK did so well outside the EU vaccine process. They had to justify their dismal failure to supply the vaccine to their citizens.
    
    The UK has vaccinated more people than all EU countries combined.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/27/germany-signals-astrazeneca-vaccine-may-be-approved-for-over-65s
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:33am
  - James Stephenson
    
    Geopolitics innit. Not-so-sub subtext: UK things aren’t as good as EU things.
    
    But yeah, Trump playing the Nationalist card is bad, Mamma Merkel plays it and….crickets.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:17am
- kevn
  
  @Old Mick… RMM = “don’t you know who I am” ?
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:26am
- lastmanstanding
  
  South Auckland. One little ( fill the gap in) so much damage.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:32am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    South Auckland. One little ( incompetent PM) so much damage.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:35am
  - Mobile Michael
    
    The infection came in through the Government’s border controls. An airport worker is Patient Zero for this outbreak, but was working to normal procedures as the virus doesn’t last long on surfaces. (Quaranting of objects seems obvious to me – just hold them in a dry storeroom for 72 hours before washing them.)
    
    The Government then was slow to react to the outbreak (how can close contacts be unfindable for days on end when they eventually just knock on the door of their home to find them?) and eager to drop down Alert Levels as their pollsters found Covid Fatigue is occurring. Now they admit the spread is beyond their control with cases they are unaware of out there.
    
    You can expect L4 in Auckland from next week, L3 in the rest of the North Island and L2 in the rest of NZ. And its the Government’s fault.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:28am
Happychappy

Things must not so rosy in the Prime Ministers world after begging for property investors stop inflaming the property market, we see more lockdowns for Auckland at level three and a lesser level two for the rest of the Country. Now the word out there on the street is that the team of 5 million is falling apart and not obeying our Leader and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.
After basing her Leadership on death and tragedy she now is crying out and blaming property Investors for her inability to cool the housing market and now showing what a one trick pony she is especially when it comes to Economics, Poverty, Immigration Housing and Health.
The rest of the world have had lockdowns because they could not control the Coronavirus and other variations New Zealand has had lockdowns to try to contain the virus and really you can only blame Jacinda Ardern for her own stupidity and inability to listen for the problems that are happening now.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/jacinda-ardern-forced-to-beg-people-to-stop-investing-in-houses-an-admission-of-failure-act.html
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February 28, 2021 8:00am
- Sofia
  
  Perhaps a little more simply, how many Members of Parliament own a primary home, a holiday home and then investment properties beyond that, openly or buried in trusts, and should on some matters be declaring a conflict of interest and not acting or voting on certain issues.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ex members (H1)
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:47am
  - Harriet
    
    At it’s most simplest – how can you double the NZ population in the last 20yrs – yet in the last 12 months without immigration – they can’t house the last 20,000 families?
    
    There is clearly no property shortage but a vacancy shortage.
    
    Ban single dwellings from being investment properties — and watch a building boom take place, for sale or rent. People will knockdown and rebuild older homes, for two or more townhouses. Or renovate to include intergenerational living quarters. You’ll upgrade the nations housing stock. You’ll increase the nations population, and nation wide. You’ll use existing infrastructure and also then make it affordable to upgrade it.
    
    There would need to be involvement by far more architects – as it’s established individual section development.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:56am
    - Don Beckett
      
      That’s been happening since the 1980’s.
      
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      February 28, 2021 12:47pm
    - GJM
      
      You would need to change the town planning rules. Plenty of sites that could be developed, but rules are single house only per 600sqm lot.
      Auckland should be a blanket 3 or 4 story allowance everywhere and then watch places get built. It will never happen due to the nimbys
      
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      February 28, 2021 6:25pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Good grief. What a twit. How many Government Ministers are property investors? My unfortunate experience with Labour and Green voters in Wellington, many of them party members is that they are enthusiastic little capitalists when it comes to property. I was invited to a social event attended by these people. Shortly after the 2017 election. Many of these folk were senior public servants, celebrating jacinda while boasting about their capital gains in property. It was sickening. I left. That experience confirmed my view that these left wing elites are amoral and hypocritical.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:49am
  - The Other Enoch
    
    You are so right Benedict. I went to a Greens fund raiser in Lyttleton a few years back. They were, then as they are now, talking loudly about public transport. Hypocracy was on display that night too. You couldn’t get a carpark in Lyttleton that night.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:13am
  - jon
    
    We saw too, unlike the private sector, how these public servants have been exempt from incurring pay cuts during this Covid crisis.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:04am
  - Paulus
    
    Tauranga Labour List Jan Tinetti has what she calls a “modest” house in Matua – equal the top real estate suburbs in Tauranga (Mt Maung and Bethlehem).
    I know the “modest” home, and many people requiring some where to live would swoon at such a description.
    
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    February 28, 2021 11:24am
- Unity
  
  I really wonder if her lockdowns come about because she’s not achieving anything else and knows it – so let’s have another lockdown so (in her eyes) she looks relevant. If that’s the case they are going to come more and regularly until the population finally wake up. Let’s hope I’m wrong but they really are an incompetent bunch aren’t they and costing the country billions. Would National have done it any better? Another thing for me to wonder about.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:01am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    They are not achieving anything else.
    
    I am really hoping for an over reach. James Shaw is quite capable of going full retard by banning natural gas or taxing cars.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:20am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I really wonder if her lockdowns come about because she’s not achieving anything else and knows it
    
    She’s stuck now…. all her advisors have swung around to total elimination… so the vaccination had better provide long-term protection, otherwise we will be yo-yoing for yonks.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:26am
    - Greg Ettridge
      
      Lock down perfectly healthy people, stand back and let the infected go to the gym and wherever they choose to roam.
      Seems a very sound policy and is sure to end well, medically and economically.
      It is a popularity winner.
      It is a win win for popularity, as for the rest of the population they can go to hell in a hand basket.
      
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      February 28, 2021 9:42am
  - Fletch
    
    Maybe they are priming us to get the vaccine, since half of everyone wasn’t likely to get the shot. A few lockdowns and the populace will be far more pliant.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:32am
  - redeye
    
    “Would National have done it any better?”
    
    Well who knows but at the very least they would have had a dedicated health minister that had some level of competence right from the start.
    Not a religious leader that was hidden for the first few months and then replaced with someone who already had a large and failing ministry to look after.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:50am
  - curry4me
    
    Unity: They couldn’t possibly have done it any worse.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:36pm
- CaptainCompromise
  
  Blaming investors is a cop-out.
  
  Remember the housing crisis ™ affects not only house prices but rent prices. That tells us it is not investors alone buying up all the property keeping people from buying houses but only renting, but that the overall demand for housing, owner occupied and rentals is high. The only exception to this is investors who buy houses and keep them empty, but there is no significant variation in the rate of this except for houses that can’t meet tenancy laws (which is a government problem).
  
  We have a proportionally increasing population driven by immigration (our birth rate is below replacement), multiple layers of government which is stacked against building houses, and a building industrial complex which makes it expensive to do the build. These are all government caused problems which have led to excessive demand and insufficient supply.
  
  Combine this with economic situations where credit is cheap, interest on low risk products is near zero, and stocks and business lending is risky, it makes perfect sense to buy a second house.
  
  That is the reason housing is expensive, not just “Greedy investors not being kind”.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:03am
  - CaptainCompromise
    
    I’m not saying this is a current government problem either, it’s been 25 years in the making. It’s a government problem not only the government’s problem.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:14am
    - Tall Man
      
      In fairness, this current bunch have exacerbated the problem very efficiently, about their only real success.
      
      The extra living allowance for students started the push, the push against landlords drove a few out of the market, forced upgrades to already liveable houses that some tenants will neither use nor maintain to reneging on their electoral promise to limit immigration to 30,000.
      
      Health and safety has gone mad with the ensuing increase in building costs, saw a job costing where scaffolding exceeded 50% of the total budget, plus printing an endless supply of money has made upgrading possible at a cost but not as bad as 5 years ago.
      
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      February 28, 2021 10:35am
  - Littletramp
    
    If you can get $600 per week rental from your tenant, it services just over $1 million housing finance at 3% p.a.
    Why would investors not buy as many houses as they could at up to $1 million purchase price? It’s a free house!
    The rubber will meet the road, when tenants (ordinary NZ’ers) cannot pay the ever increasing rents, or worse still lose their jobs as small businesses fold, but still need housing. They will need to double the security presence outside WINZ (or whatever Maori name they call that dept now) offices.
    In housing (and also in Covid management), we are looking for solutions to the East, when the problems and the solutions are in the West.
    These people are idiots, without ears and without an exit strategy.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:42am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      It really doesn’t…
      
      Now factor in PM fees, rates, insurance and maintenance you’ll find it falls well short
      
      Now factor in that the only part of the loan that you can offset against outgoings in the interest (that is now ring-fenced) not the principal and you’ll see that $600 doesn’t even begin to cover it
      
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      February 28, 2021 2:12pm
    - CaptainCompromise
      
      This is a very real possibility. If for whatever reason the economy really falls apart, housing availability is unlikely to change as the demand will not change, people still need to live. The result would likely be a Venezuela-esque housing crisis, a real housing crisis where housing is so unaffordable there cramming 10-15 people into a house, mass living in cars or tents, etc. Not the OneNews stories like when Nats were in, on every street and in every park. It will be hell.
      
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      February 28, 2021 2:26pm
      - amospicton
        
        The only way to make housing more affordable to those out of the market is to lower prices. The alternative is huge govt handouts to some but that’s unfair and not sustainable. If we lower prices by 50% most of the ‘investors’ are bankrupt. Fair enough, they knew the risks they were taking. There’s no such thing as a free lunch. The losers are those who’ve purchased their first home in the last 5 years or so. Massive negative equity amidst an economic catastrophe. Just awful. And yet we try and encourage youngsters into the market as if it’s risk free. Take a look at property prices offshore and tell me why we’re so different that our prices shouldn’t be comaprable.
        
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        February 28, 2021 2:50pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Our prices are comparable.
        
        Auckland is no different to Paris, Berlin, London…
        
        This is a search for 3 bed detached house in Greenwich for NZ$1m or less. Results: Zero
        
        https://bit.ly/2ZU4ihO
        
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        February 28, 2021 3:24pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        In fact in the whole of London you will only find 18 detached properties of 3 or more bedrooms for up to the Auckland median of $1,030,000
        
        https://bit.ly/37ROiBu
        
        The problem is that NZ has too many burger-flippers, and even they are pretty much the best-paid burger-flippers on the planet
        
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        February 28, 2021 3:34pm
- Philview
  
  An interesting article by Cam Slater this morning. Per Cam the biggest property investor is the Government with 750 Million spent on buying private properties to convert to state homes in the last 3 years.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:11am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Maybe, if they had put the same speed and effort into RMA reform, as they put into votes for criminals.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:36am
Suze Wainwright

Ata marie Team of 5 million! Let’s make Jacinda proud!
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February 28, 2021 8:01am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Why?
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:28am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Because she is beloved and delivers leadership masterclasses
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:38am
    - Liberty
      
      Suze
      You are taking the piss.
      Or very deluded.
      
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      February 28, 2021 2:21pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Ho, ho, ho.
      Ardern R. has come close to overkill. Unfortunately she is stewed in ideology and her “leadership” is like a tortoise in the backyard or a roomba with a recent software update–it varies by the minute.
      
      We need accountability from those whose seek the pay grade but cannot perform at the executive level required.
      
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      February 28, 2021 4:45pm
- oldfella
  
  Suze, you left the /s off the end. Hence all the downticks.
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:02am
- David George
  
  It’s flock of 5 million Suze.
  
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  February 28, 2021 2:50pm
I remember when

TV3 Newshub:
Police closely monitor Hells Angels charity ride behaviour.
Simon says – Simon says do this.
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February 28, 2021 8:02am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Mean while their violence and drug dealing go on unabated.
  Priorities?
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:39am
  - igm
    
    The Angels don’t acknowledge te reo so they must be treated as public enemies.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:47pm
Yvette

A Kiwiblog comment yesterday evening –
… someone who was supposed to be in isolation went to work at KFC for 9 hours before testing positive. That was yesterday. And today they were expecting long lines of cars for people getting tested and pretty much no one showed up. I think people are getting complacent. The govt was probably [thinking], bugger it, we’re not having that.

The drop-off of testing may also coincide with the introduction of the terms “close contact” and “contact plus”.
Phil Twyford, referred to by several in the same post thread, with his announcements of announcements and changes in terms and targets, could not have done better to confuse the issue.

When potential disease spreaders see their GP for a test and then go to a gym, or work a shift at KFC while possibly infectious, and thereby display a level of intelligence that leaves certain doubt, why introduce terms like “close contact” and “contact plus”, demanding further understanding that the actions of some prove just may not be there.
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February 28, 2021 8:05am
- CaptainCompromise
  
  Funny words make the government sound smart though
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:04am
- alex Masterley
  
  I suppose at drive in’s in South Auckland you now get asked if you want Covid with the order.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:26am
- yossarian
  
  Well I’ll say it if no one else will.
  
  The fact that so many people in South Auckland were going to KFC reinforces a certain stereotype, and makes me wonder if Covid don’t get ’em then obesity will.
  
  Honestly I don’t know how can eat that muck?
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:50am
  - GreenYarn
    
    That KFC was in Botany which is East Auckland. Same with the K-Mart.
    
    KFC is delish in most places though. Especially their burgers.
    
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    February 28, 2021 1:18pm
    - EssenX
      
      Yes, but the staff that worked at those locations live in Papatoetoe.
      
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      February 28, 2021 1:45pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Is that the unstated object of these lock downs: to get them off the takeaways for a week?
    The price is very high. The PM talks of death of an individual but ignores the other damage being caused which may indirectly lead to long term illness and loss of businesses and other consequences.
    
    There is no “V” shaped recovery and wage subsidies don’t make up for all business discontinuity. Many businesses are just hanging on until their support network can’t go any further. If you are a regular cafe you have an income that likely supports all,with the owners often taking home less than staff. That is normal for many in commerce. Disturbances that mean cutting staff imply lack of customers and COVID is keeping them at home. That means survival is speculative.
    
    These stresses are across a very wide spectrum of business–even contracting, where competitive quotes reduce margins to make the future very uncertain.
    This present government govt has no idea of how the commercial sector, the power engine of New Zealand, works. Time to resign.
    
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    February 28, 2021 5:03pm
- EssenX
  
  When the Kmart case broke out my wife and I had to work establish if people may be close contacts, casual or casual plus because no one picks up the phone at Healthline. We could not work it out.
  
  I have an LLB (Hons) and my wife is a doctor.
  
  Epic fail by Government communications.
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:27pm
- Liberty
  
  HIV is a notifiable disease.
  1 in 6 Gay men has HIV
  They walk the streets amongst us and know won cares a stuff.
  1 case of Covid in 5million
  Dear Leader has another hysterical overreaction
  
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  February 28, 2021 2:41pm
I remember when

Is this the most least decisive Government ever.
The trouble is that they are not making decisions of the Nation’s health.
They are making decisions that look after Labour’s future health and election prospects.
They live in mortal fear of losing the Jacinda save us by eliminating covid semi-myth.
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February 28, 2021 8:06am
- Nickc2
  
  It’s not a semi myth mate. It’s a complete and utter myth!
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:40am
- KiWombat
  
  Must be about time for another public holiday eh ?
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:48am
- Paul Marsden
  
  When Ardern is gone, they’re gone.
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:17am
Captain Mainwaring

So Golriz has a problem with an iconic American warplane doing a flyover at the Wings on Wairarapa airshow.
Is she trying to suggest that it was Iran who saved our country from the Japanese in WW2? Our good friends the Americans need a lot more support than most New Zealanders are prepared to give them. Some of us have long memories.
Did this dreadful woman get into our Parliament on her good looks?
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February 28, 2021 8:13am
- Scott
  
  Agree captain. The wings over Wairarapa was a great day for us in the Masterton community. Everyone had fun.
  
  But not Golriz. She had to remind us of the evil Americans and evil war and we shouldn’t be having it!
  
  Talk about spoil sport. Who votes for these people?
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:16am
  - oldfella
    
    Who votes for these idiotic greenies? Idiots!
    
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    February 28, 2021 11:05am
- lilman
  
  So sexist that comment,look at Clarke,Cindy and others are you saying they got voted in for good looks?
  
  You voted for them ,take your medicine.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:31am
- RalphT
  
  “Did this dreadful woman get into our Parliament on her good looks?”
  It would have to be that, Captain. It certain wouldn’t be because of her superior political judgment.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:31am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  It was nothing to do with her looks – how can you possibly think something so blatantly heterosexually-oriented, binary genderist?
  
  Golriz got into aotearoa’s parliament based on her demonstrated connections with the phenomenal wit of Guy Williams…
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:32am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    What a recommendation. I’m going to have a start a Magenta Movement.
    
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    February 28, 2021 5:07pm
  - Bob
    
    Didn’t Daddy lead her and the family through the side door at Auckland airport customs???
    
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    March 28, 2021 7:30pm
- WaveyDavey
  
  Remuera-tractor driving “greens” I believe
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:33am
- kowtow
  
  She says it’s at odds with NZ values and peace ; where does she stand on the haka , not to mention poi ,done by the lassies to strengthen their wrists in order to better enable dispatch of the foe.
  
  She also sees the B52 as emblematic of waging war and misery , that upsets our refugees fresh from B52 bombed homes.
  
  She’s simply an anti American racist who refuses to see any good in the west .
  
  Why wasn’t she questioned about Iran’s practise of hanging by kicking chairs from under the victim?
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:46am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Perhaps because she was a refugee from Iran, rather than a supporter of the regime.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:09am
    - lifesgood
      
      You idiot. She most definitely was NOT a refugee, her family were opportunists.
      
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      February 28, 2021 10:06am
      - Bob
        
        Mummy and Daddy were dishonest.!
        
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        March 28, 2021 7:31pm
    - jon
      
      Iran’s irritant became NZ ‘s irritant!!
      
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      February 28, 2021 10:29am
    - CJames
      
      She might be a “refugee” but have you ever heard I criticise it? She is anti-western and a latent supporter of dictatorial despots.
      
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      February 28, 2021 10:34am
    - kowtow
      
      All the more reason to highlight the excesses of an oppressive and cruel regime .
      
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      February 28, 2021 10:41am
    - Homas
      
      Which brings us nicely to the topic of gratitude…
      
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      February 28, 2021 11:18am
    - Ed Snack
      
      An Economic Refugee, not a real one. Her parents left not because they were being persecuted, it because they saw better economic benefits elsewhere.
      
      Immoral exploitation of genuine refugees from persecution.
      
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      February 28, 2021 11:49am
- CaptainCompromise
  
  What she doesn’t get is that not everything has a signal to meaning. People other than herself can look at a USAF Bomber doing a flyby and go “Holy shit that is an amazing piece of engineering and a sight to behold, even if I don’t agree with all US foreign policy decisions.”
  
  Not being able to seperate the two (which are not causally connected in anyway) is a problem with her internal thought processes, not the air show organisers
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:47am
  - Bob
    
    what internal thought process, she is a programmed puppet.
    
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    February 28, 2021 12:13pm
- Gravelroad
  
  I’ve been to a couple of air shows which featured flypasts by Spitfires.
  Do hope that any Germans, or people of German descent, were not too traumatised by it.
  Ms Gharaman is an irrelevance.
  Don’t give her the attention she so constantly craves.
  Another impressive candidate choice made by the Green Party in their quest to disrupt the NZ legislature – just because they can.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:54am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    It’s Goldiz’s (and Menendez-March’s (and Chloe’s)) demonstrable environmentalism that really demand admiration though…
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:04am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Wait till the cold set in.
      
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      February 28, 2021 5:09pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  No she got into parliament because of MMP. Just like the new Mexican guy who had shown his potential to exceed the stupidity of Golriz.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:54am
  - Saks
    
    Yet you hear nothing from the only green member that actually won an electorate. Curious.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:54am
  - Durden
    
    Is it time for NZ to consider changing MP eligibility rules to something like Oz. NZ Labour MPs happily meddled in Aussie elections by providing birthplace information and almost created a national crisis by highlighting that Ozzie law to disqualify some sitting Ozzie MPs there.
    The rules would be you have to be a citizen. You don’t have to be born in NZ. Or alternatively you are a Permanent Resident of at least 10 years standing to prove your intentions of being a loyal long term NZ resident.
    
    I would also add to that, you do not get to vote if you have been overseas and been a permanent resident of a another country for over two years. You can get your voting rights back as soon as you return.
    
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    February 28, 2021 11:26am
    - Nickc2
      
      That’s sensible. I suggest one of the alternate political parties ACT or National campaign on the to be enacted law that to vote in NZ, you must be registered and in order to be registered, you must be a New Zealand Citizen.
      
      Then again, why not go the whole hog and include in the law that in order to receive any taxpayer-funded welfare, unless aligned to a like law (reciprocated) in an aligned country, one must be a New Zealand Citizen.
      
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      February 28, 2021 12:11pm
      - curry4me
        
        Nick2: They should also add Term Limits to the list. Say five three year terms. If An MP can’t do anything in 5 terms, 10 won’t be enough either.
        
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        February 28, 2021 5:29pm
    - EssenX
      
      There may be some value in this given concerns about Chinese influence.
      
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      February 28, 2021 12:31pm
  - oldfella
    
    BU, imagine if Golly and Richardo hooked up and had children together? (Yeah, I know, but just imagine.)
    They could spawn a new super race. 🙂
    
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    February 28, 2021 12:37pm
- kevn
  
  @Captn… Good looks? Really? Nah
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:58am
- KiwiSapper
  
  It is seriously a bit rich for this Golriz to go all “anti war” , This is the person who claimed to be prosecuting a war criminal but the reality was just he opposite as she was part of the team defending him.
  She has no honour, no issue with telling lies and as other posters have pointed out, nothing to justify her being any part of a New Zealand Parliament.
  She and the loathsome Mexican should make an excellent team in America by joining Harry and his current day reincarnation of Mrs Simpson.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:10am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yup, she defended those committing the genocide – and does not like the public finding that out
    
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    February 28, 2021 11:46am
- V
  
  I would like to offer Golritz a flight of a lifetime, all the way back to Tehran.
  She can’t go a week without finding new petty faults to create further division in our society, so I would offer this amazing once in a lifetime opportunity to experience the religious police close up – see how much fun that is.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:10am
- graham
  
  Wow, she’s really gone all out to be the poster-child for the “I’m offended” generation. I wonder if she’ll call for the shutting down of MOTAT next, with all their displays of ‘instruments of war’.
  
  Having just listened to the interview, I am left wondering why nobody seems to have questioned the part of the radio interview where she equated this with the Christchurch terror attack. To me, that is quite inappropriate and – dare I say it – deeply offensive.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:17am
  - Harlequin
    
    You listened to the entire interview? Thank you for taking one for the team.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:28am
  - Bob
    
    Such stamina, commendable!
    
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    March 28, 2021 7:35pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Another day of taking offence on behalf of the rest of us who see no offence whatsoever. Perhaps Golriz might want to think of her comrades being dispatched by her homeland for their sexual orientation.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:21am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Ms Ghahraman seems to be permanently tone-deaf.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:27am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    I hear she can do a pretty good bourgeois dinner party though…
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:30am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Would modify to, what may be an unpalatable truth.
  “Our good friends the Americans need a lot more support than most New Zealanders are prepared to give them.”
  to
  Our good friends the Americans are owed a lot more support than most New Zealanders are prepared to or can give them. Or that the Americans have ever asked for.
  Regardless of what people like David Lange have said in the past.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:43am
- Fletch
  
  Has she said anything about American warplanes over Syria and the bombing the other day? Or is she A-OK with that?
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:36am
- Nickc2
  
  I hope this very plane is used in the flight that bombs shit out of Iran.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The anti American in NZ are repugnant pieces of shit
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:43am
- Bob
  
  well she must have some significant attribute; though the ‘bar’ is rather low these days. Look at the present government composition.
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:11pm
TWEEDSE

Perfectly timed lockdown whilst the IRD website is offline for maintenance so you can’t claim the wage subsidy for us self employed unable to work.
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February 28, 2021 8:17am
- TWEEDSE
  
  Reading further I see you have to wait 7 days after the lockdown starts before you can apply.
  
  I have never applied for an sort of government assistance in the past. I believe in personal responsibility and looking after yourself and those immediately around you.
  
  But I am so tired of this BS, I give up. Take the printer money whilst you can and before it becomes worthless in Cindestan. Cindy, destroying the human spirit one person at a time.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:30am
  - Fletch
    
    Not very good. 7 days? How does that help anyone? What about your employees in the meantime? What if you apply after 7 days and get rejected?
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:39am
- Ruawai
  
  And with it down we cant load GST, PAYE etc… will there be penalties for us all?
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:55am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    IRD have got a little wild with their penalties of late. The upgraded systems are charging interest on autopilot.
    
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    February 28, 2021 5:14pm
- Ian Boag
  
  IIRC, the previous wage subsidy came from an application to MSD, not IRD …
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:16pm
mikenmildagain

Happy Rare Disease Day!
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February 28, 2021 8:19am
- Harriet
  
  Just take the pad out of your pants and you’ll stop acting like a girl Milky. 😎
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:25am
- Don Beckett
  
  Covid 19?
  Lots of talk & testing about it, but very few cases and no deaths.
  A damp squib disease.
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:13am
Harlequin

Golriz claim that “Most New Zealanders would be against this flight etc” went unchallenged. An ideal opportunity for a real Journalist to ask for details of the survey she had obviously just completed.
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February 28, 2021 8:23am
- CaptainCompromise
  
  It doesn’t matter even if they were against it. There is no causal link between the two. If I want to pay to watch a B52, who is the government to tell me I’m not permitted?
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:07am
- Clyde
  
  What a strange assumption to make. How many “journalists” who are relying on the Jacinda purchase of media would ask the question, or even have the intelligence to think of the question in the first place?
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:07am
- KiwiSapper
  
  “Real Journalist?”
  They have stopped making them.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:13am
- Bob
  
  Which ‘REAL’ journalist.???
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:17pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  If I lived closer I would definitely be going to see a Spitfire. Those brave people and machines won the war.
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:15pm
  - alloytoo
    
    I would be interested in seeing a Messerschmitt or Zero in the air as well.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:45pm
The Other Enoch

Captain, she certainly did not get in on her good looks. If you think that she did then I am happy to arrange an appointment for you at OPSM.

She got in, like most of the Green MPs, by riding a horse called mendacity.
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February 28, 2021 8:24am
Benedict Yu

She is a menace. Fortunately she has zero power and hopefully she never will.
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February 28, 2021 8:25am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Tova’s not really a menace. I think she is honestly trying to present the world as she sees it…
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:38am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Then she needs to:
    turn around and look at it
    Open her eyes
    and
    remove the Labour prescription glasses
    They only distort the view.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:48am
  - Tall Man
    
    I don’t agree at all.
    
    Her unbridled hatred of National and especially Simon Bridges is an unhealthy obsession for a supposedly neutral journalist.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:45pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  The French new how to deal with rulers who didn’t respect the people.
  MMP has got to go.
  Rulership has to have accountability.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:44am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I can’t see MMP going. We had a chance at the last referendum. John Key chose to stay neutral. I never understood that.
    
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    February 28, 2021 8:52am
    - Homas
      
      Key did have some rather strange blind spots – but I thank him for going to all the trouble of proving that we’re happy with the flag as it is.
      
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      February 28, 2021 11:25am
JibberJabber

Los Angeles, CA, Democrat Utopia,
https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1365586598998339592
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February 28, 2021 8:29am
- doublehappy
  
  And it can only get worse when you invite illegal immigrants to come, bring your family, Covid, and anything else you feel like. A few kilo’s of meths with a topping of cocaine would be good. While your at it kill off lots of jobs, we don’t need to use our own fuel, we can import all we want from overseas. Print some more money, make some more people dependent on us to feed them. Let them build shanty-towns where ever they want. A bit of rioting and looting will get them the materials and some nice TVs. Aren’t we doing well; we will soon have the place on its knee’s so the “Great Reset” can begin.
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:22pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Good one doublehappy.
    
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    February 28, 2021 1:44pm
- curry4me
  
  Jibberabber: Americans have so much to thank Democrat rulers for /sarc.
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:41pm
Greg Ettridge

Just shows how completely nutty and bonkers the world has become.
I think the greatest plane I have had seen fly several times in my life is the Spitfire, it was and is just a fantastic aeronautical wonder of its time.
Lucky for the west it turned WW2 in our favour.
Iran in the early 70’s was basically a western country with western ideals until the mullahs seized control and turned it medieval.
I love the attitude of Rita Panahi, she loves and embraces her adopted country.
As for Golriz Ghahraman, I and her like millions, have nothing in common.
I wouldn’t sell my soul to the UN to defend despotic murderers getting true justice, seeking asylum to then attempt to change the countries way of life and democracy.
She could always return to Iran and see if she can change that back from becoming a medieval shithole.
She won’t do that because she will get stoned in a hole by her country brethren.
People should be thankful for big breaks in life, this woman and I are poles apart on the meaning of freedom and along with it democracy.
She has proven she will sell her soul, and it continues….
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February 28, 2021 8:35am
- kiwibird
  
  I believe our MPs should first have a qualification called “born in NZ”.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:38am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Golriz. Yawn.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:39am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Are you a fan of despotic murderers?
    
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    February 28, 2021 11:18am
    - igm
      
      Birds of a feather . . .
      
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      February 28, 2021 11:51am
  - Manu-Rau
    
    Its a reasonably safe bet that the late Margaret Bell would have been a better MP than Golriz, had her life not been tragically cut short.
    
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    February 28, 2021 1:27pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      I’d add Ronald Blyth to your list.
      
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      February 28, 2021 6:34pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        Hey, I’ll take a downtick over a stabbing or shooting. I’m funny like that.
        
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        February 28, 2021 9:29pm
WaveyDavey

Heh. My partner and I were just discussing our PM and housing.

I just had a revelation. Ardern is making everybody happy:

Our net worth has increased by over $1.5m (tax-free, yay! so nearer $2.25m) in the last 4 years with precisely zero effort and those who fall at her feet in adoration can carry on saying “at least she’s doing something.”

We’re all winners
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February 28, 2021 8:39am
Nukuleka

What exactly do the Green MPs voted in on the list do? I recognize that many list MPs have connections to various electorate areas- for example National’s Jo Hayes did work on behalf of Christchurch East constituents as a list MP and no doubt folk like Gerry Brownlee continue to be active on behalf of the people in Ilam even though he is no longer their MP. But someone like Mr Menendez-March? What does he do to earn his salary? As a representative of the people yet with no electorate what does he do?
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February 28, 2021 8:41am
- Clyde
  
  Nothing of any worth to anyone but himself and his ego.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:10am
- mikenmildagain
  
  National and Labour list MPs often have offices in the electorate where they have stood, or plan to stand in the future. I’m not sure what the Greens practice is.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:14am
  - peterwn
    
    In fairness to the Greens, their Parliamentary budget would be far smaller than Labour or National and so would be very limited in the number of ‘electorate’ offices they can provide. Even National is pinched now, for example Nicola Willis’s office in Murphy Street is now closed even though she and Bish look after all the greater Wellington electorates.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:34am
- Rich Prick
  
  Beyond consuming oxygen, I can’t think of anything. Sorry.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:27am
  - RalphT
    
    And oxygen that could be put to better use elsewhere. Anywhere in fact.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:37am
  - Saks
    
    Beyond wasting oxygen, I can’t think of anything. Sorry.
    
    There, I fixed it for you…
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:01am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Make that ‘stealing’ oxygen.
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:23am
  - kowtow
    
    They emit carbon dioxide on every exhale of the lungs.
    
    Personally I have no problem with that , it’s essential in nature to breathe .
    
    But they have a problem with CO2 and want to “decarbonise” the planet .
    
    OK then , stop breathing ……..if you really want to stick to your values .
    
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    February 28, 2021 12:18pm
  - Phronesis
    
    Don’t forget he’s converting that oxygen into carbon dioxide. So he’s basically destroying the world.
    
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    February 28, 2021 12:58pm
Inandout

Will the never ending Auckland lock downs eventually have an effect on that city’s property prices because of the continual uncertainty? Goff has ‘called for calm’, much like after a large earthquake; incredible. Unintended consequences, so often happens with Jacinda’s decisions.
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February 28, 2021 8:41am
- CaptainCompromise
  
  No because more people want and need to live in Auckland, lock down or not, than there are houses by several percent.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:09am
  - fernglas
    
    It will eventually have a big effect on CBD prices, both apartments and office buildings, as more and more people work from home, students can’t come and people who have been locked down in an apartment come to realise how shitty it can be.
    
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    February 28, 2021 9:29am
    - CaptainCompromise
      
      Commercial prices definitely, particularly in the CBD.
      
      Residential maybe but probably not significantly, they might be undesirable but the other options are so damn expensive and the cost of replacement is so high it won’t be a big drop. There’s always another mug slightly more desperate who will pay.
      
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      February 28, 2021 2:30pm
Happychappy

After all the extras given to Social Welfare beneficiaries over the last three and a half years Minister Camel Sepuloni still believes it is not enough so you have to ask the question how and where will they get the funds from to keep these people happy, will it be to borrow more in the name of COVID-19 and pile more on the youth of this Country that have to pay it back especially now as it is well past the $100 billion figure given over a month ago or will the Finance Minister and the Reserve Bank do a deal to have COVID-19 loans disappear.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/social-development-minister-admits-benefits-not-enough-most-kiwis
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February 28, 2021 8:46am
- WaveyDavey
  
  *Shrug* not from me so I’m past caring
  
  They voted for this, they can pay for it
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:27am
  - doublehappy
    
    True, my children did. Now I have to keep my mouth shut, or risk being excommunicated from the family.
    
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    February 28, 2021 12:31pm
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Fortunately neither of my partner’s kids were dumb enough
      
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      February 28, 2021 2:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Excommunicated from a bunch of idiots …… Could be a blessing is disguise……..
      
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      February 28, 2021 3:39pm
    - theoldbloke
      
      Bingo. Got excommunicated by 44yo daughter who has gone to the dark side(wokeness). My crime after not seeing her for a year. She was visiting and I said those terrible words. “You are looking good. Have you lost weight” A stern lecture followed then excommunication
      
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      February 28, 2021 10:06pm
lazza

Earlier assurances from our Prime Minister … going hard, going early and her over-optimistic timetable for mass vaccinations have proved to be both hollow and misleading.

How different Auckland’s serial lockdowns would have been if Ms Ardern’s actions had been as good as her word.

Who voted for this shower?
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February 28, 2021 8:53am
- calendar girl
  
  The greatest blight on Ms Ardern’s Labour-led Government is its failure to date to secure and apply adequate quantities of vaccines that could protect most New Zealanders against contracting Covid-19.
  
  Appropriate and effective mass-vaccination programmes should have commenced weeks ago. But it appears that Ms Ardern’s Government still lacks vaccines (let alone comprehensive plans) for such to occur. Lots of talk, and lots of “Look at me” appearances, but no mass – vaccination plan yet in sight?
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:11am
- doublehappy
  
  The people who are on benefits, (not all the ones on the universal pension), the younger people who have switched off from the evils of totalitarian communism in their rosy glow of unconsidered, un-educated bliss. The unwashed who have followed their upbringing and always voted socialist. And; the ones who consider Cindy as a cult figure who has saved them from the dreaded virus, for some very strange reason. Collectively known as Sheeple.
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:41pm
KevO'Brien

PM scorned internationally over lock down:
https://www.rt.com/news/516750-auckland-emergency-covid-lockdown-ardern/
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February 28, 2021 8:54am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Are you sure you posted the current link? It is a factual article that expresses no opinion on the lockdown or of Jacinda.
  
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  February 28, 2021 8:57am
- krazykiwi
  
  Meh, not really scorned. Mostly a dispassionate reporting of the facts. Scorn will come, though. And her extensively preened ego won’t cope well.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:01am
  - SB2
    
    krazykiwi, certainly not your and other Covid Conspiracy factoids!
    
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    February 28, 2021 10:49am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Others have picked it up and their presentation was not as friendly–I just showed the source.
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:31pm
- SB2
  
  rt ” Putin” newspeak?
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:52pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    RT often gives a better, less biased, view of external events than other sources.
    
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    February 28, 2021 5:20pm
Padriv Ustoev

Cool another lockdown. Let’s not go outside at all untill people stop dieing
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February 28, 2021 8:58am
- SB2
  
  So let us allow Covid19 rip through the community unchallenged?
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:51am
David George

Another shooting last night, seems like every day there’s some nutter/crim/gangster shooting someone.
Someone here put up the stats on violent crime, robbery etc. the other day, all up by double figure percentages. What’s going on?
Not kind! Jacinda needs to have a word to these guys.
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February 28, 2021 8:58am
- RW Capitalist
  
  They banned guns.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:52am
- oldfella
  
  David, I’m sure the shootings will stop in Auckland during lockdown. All the gangs will be keen to support Cindy – after all she leads their political party.
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:29am
kowtow

If lockdowns work , why are we back in lockdown?

Anyway consider why the whole of Auckland is locked down . It’s easier for the govt to run a couple of roadblocks for the whole city than to run perhaps dozens that would be required to lockdown a neighbourhood .

And that’s why govts the world over use draconian methods to ‘control” this Chinese plague , it’s easier to impose broad harsh measures on everyone than to use nuanced targetted measures .

It’s a bit like anti drink driving ; target everyone instead the usual suspects , who are very well known to Plod.
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February 28, 2021 9:02am
- SB2
  
  kowtow, lockdowns do work but only if you get compliance and co-operation by the public at large.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:54am
Maggie's partner

For Jacinda Ardern, approval and adoration are essential. She needs to be a success to calm her own anxieties. On every other issue facing the government she has been an abject failure. Only with COVID can she CLAIM some success.
So she will rule by COVID. As long as she continues to lead the fight, her failure in other areas is not a yardstick by which she can be measured. Victory over COVID is what defines her.
So as long as she is our leader, we can expect anti-COVID measures to be prioritised above all over things
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February 28, 2021 9:03am
- RW Capitalist
  
  As the greatest bad actor George Burns once said: “Sincerity – once you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”
  ie
  Only with COVID can she CLAIM some success.
  She claims it….who else?
  self-praise is no recommendation (at all). proverb. 1. Praise of oneself is worth nothing, as one cannot be objective of one’s own work or accomplishments.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:57am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Kāore te kūmara e kōrero mō tōna ake reka
    
    The kumara doesn’t speak of its own sweetness.
    
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    February 28, 2021 4:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  The silly woman hasn’t quite grasped that you can’t beat a virus.
  
  Actually I doubt ardern could “beat” anything fullstop.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:14am
- The Boss
  
  Not my PM
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:13am
CaptainCompromise

I see the serial Down ticker is making their way from top to bottom about now.
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February 28, 2021 9:12am
- JibberJabber
  
  Keep commenting, maybe they’ll get an RSI from thrashwanking over KB ?.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:45am
Pongo

Australia has just landed 10 million vaccine doses and is manufacturing Astra,s where are we ?
The lack of any coverage on vaccine deliveries for NZ is disappointing. I can only guess that Ardern has planned many media opportunities to capitalize on it when it turns up.
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February 28, 2021 9:14am
- Sacha
  
  I’m not defending the govt, but the ‘vaccinators’ were vaccinated last week – maybe they need a fortnight to develop their antibodies and get over any post-vaccination effects.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:39am
- KiWombat
  
  I saw on one of the charts that New Zealand was still on <1000 vaccines delivered, whilst Australia was at about 23,500.
  
  Hard and fast – yeah right !
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:56am
Yvette

As with the previous Auckland lockdown to level 3, the question remains the same – why is the South Island (and in fact large portions of the North Island) also put on level 2? – if it is not only because Aucklanders can fly to such destinations without proper measures in place – and having just passed a negative covid test being probably the only allowable condition.

While Ardern, in the past few days, has said consequences should follow breaches of covid rules – like being tested by a GP for covid and then attending a gym instead of self-isolating – but with such an example now, consequences have not occurred.
And what consequence will there be and who will bear it if an outbreak of covid occurs in Queenstown, traced back to an Auckland traveler during lockdown?

I challenge Ardern to fully state what restrictions are being placed on Aucklanders proposing flying out of the city during their lockdown, including politicians.
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February 28, 2021 9:17am
- MCos
  
  I’m a South Auckland resident.
  As it happens I came to Wellington yesterday along with maybe two or three hundred people.
  Plane loads of people fly out of Auckland every hour heading for the South Island.
  BTW
  To the best of my knowledge nobody in our suburb has been in infected this time or any other time.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:45am
- Unity
  
  I too wondered why the South Island was included in Level 2. However the grey nomads in camper vans and caravans are also out and about at this time of year so I suppose that’s why the South Island has been included in Level 2.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:57am
- KiWombat
  
  You may also ask why the PriNZess always seems to land on the right side of the barbed wire fence ?
  
  Insider trading methinks !
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:58am
- kowtow
  
  ‘And what consequence will there be and who will bear it if an outbreak of covid occurs in Queenstown’
  
  No fear of that , Chippy reckons they don’t go there.
  
  He’s not the Minister for Casual pacific island racism for nothing.
  
  https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2021/02/chris-hipkins-says-polynesians-too-poor.html
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:02am
- I remember when
  
  Why not leave rest of New Zealand, other than Auckland, on Level 1 with proviso that level would change overnight if community case in area?
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:30am
- cmm
  
  “Why is the South Island (and in fact large portions of the North Island) also put on level 2?”
  
  Because if the SI was at Level 0 that would be seen by many as grossly unfair and compliance would drop.
  
  “We’re all in this together”, “Team of 5 million” etc. If some of us do hard yards, we all do hard yards.
  
  Science it is not.
  
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  February 28, 2021 3:25pm
Ruahine

The pretence that Covid-19 is truly a deadly disease in NZ is starting to slip. We are harangued daily by Ardern and her media that we are all in danger and so we must be getting tested. We must be getting tested otherwise we will not know that we have got the virus. This latest ‘lockdown’ is to deflect peoples attention from this uncomfortable truth. As for the people from Sth Akld I think a lot of them have already worked this out because it follows that it is likely that a lot of people have had it and not bothered about it very much because what is new about a runny nose and a bit of a cough. Why would an ‘overstayer’ want to put themselves into the clutches of the gov’t agencies for nothing anyway. It is quite interesting the attitude that Ardern and the Minister for Casual Racism towards Polynesians Hipkins take in talking down to the people taking the naughty children approach as if that then justifies further bullying of the rest of the country.
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February 28, 2021 9:21am
- KevO'Brien
  
  What is the testing regime? Is it the same throughout NZ? What is the PCR factor in use? Who processes the tests?
  
  When a govt can’t deliver houses how can we be sure about their delivery of test strips and processing?
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:37pm
JibberJabber

Jack Tame getting shitty when Judith won’t give him the soundbite he wants.
Pathetic lickspittle media trying to take the heat off this worthless government.
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February 28, 2021 9:26am
- JibberJabber
  
  All of a sudden, when it comes to Labour Party incompetence, the “benefit of hindsight” becomes a concern to the #scummedia in their effort to
  ameliorate the govts ineptitude.
  
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  February 28, 2021 9:40am
  - doublehappy
    
    ameliorate; a word that describes this government to perfection.
    
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    February 28, 2021 12:52pm
lazza

[You’re an adult (supposedly) – act like it. Mod.]

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
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February 28, 2021 9:32am
JibberJabber

LoL, Twitter is going off…
https://twitter.com/LivnUndaATyrant/status/1365760069820846081

But I’ll let the gay parades happen and the Wiggles concert, then I’ll fly out of Auckland before I lock it down each time
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February 28, 2021 9:36am
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda mentioned a couple of days ago that the Minister of Health and the DG of Health have the power to order folks to isolate when they are carrying disease or suspected of carrying disease, but she didn’t want to enact this type of control….why on earth not, I wonder?

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2020/0012/latest/LMS344177.html

That’s how infection control has worked in the past.
Don’t lock down the healthy.
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February 28, 2021 9:41am
- Tall Man
  
  Only to be employed against old white people.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:09am
- SB2
  
  “Don’t lock down the healthy. “??
  
  Specious and circuitous kind of reasoning. For example infection control was serious business before the days of antibiotics and isolation wards. Many kinds of infections could be lethal.
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:45am
  - amospicton
    
    Yes but this is only lethal for those who are elderly and/or have existing morbidities. For most of the population it is no worse than the flu. We need to protect the vulnerable and let the healthy get on with life.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:03pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If it is specious and circuitous, why then are those orders specifically outlined in the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020 and as Section 70 of The Health Act 1956?
    
    Why did the PM issue a warning about Section 70, then?
    
    She is asking for everyone who may have come into contact with the new case to “do the right thing” and isolate.
    
    And if they don’t, she is sounding a warning: “There is a section 70 order”.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-arderns-frustration-and-warning-over-non-compliant-contacts/UKK3IMAUQ3B3FCU7LFYALAAYWI/
    
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    February 28, 2021 4:44pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Agree. I hope Michael Morrah does an investigative piece on what you are told after a test, similar to his early investigative piece on what happens when you came in through the border. (you got a pamphlet).
  
  The other thing the govt could do instead of lockdown and punishments is speed up test .
  South korea were talking about test results within the hour back in may 2020. This would be a game changer.
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:17am
- sooty
  
  They do seem to be having trouble with these latest families though don’t they!
  Maybe instead of asking them to isolate, they should put them into MIQ facilities!
  They do seem more appropriate for people that are as thick as a brick!
  The naughty chidren approach doesn’t work as they will jump the back fence and you are stuupid if you think ringing them on the cellphone will cut the mustard!
  
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  February 28, 2021 11:33am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Some neat provisions too: orders made prior to authority can be enforced.
  The Medical Police state has truly arrived.
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:30pm
lazza

WTF has Godzone become?

A socialist -trending Commo-useless government …

with an incongruous “Be Kind’ woke regime …

of hands-off politically motivated voter-driven preference for non-law enforcement …

enforcement HAH!
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February 28, 2021 9:45am
mikenmildagain

FBI still rounding up the insurrectionists:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-investigation.html
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February 28, 2021 9:49am
- Surely Knott
  
  So after NYTimes retracted their first story where they falsely claimed they had video footage of Sicknick being hit with a fire extinguisher, the Times latest claim is they *suspect* he died of mace or bear spray. The investigators narrowed potential suspects to a single person this week, *but they have yet to identify the assailant by name*. *A justice department spokesman declined to comment* Given he went home and texted his brother it certainly wasn’t immediately and directly related to the bear spray so lets just see on this one.
  
  And then at the end of the article they say “Beside Officer Sicknick , two other officers who tried to defend the Capitol *later* died, both by suicide, according to the local police. ”
  I heard this claim on Newstalk zb’s american correspondent also. What evidence do they have that two of the thousands of officers at the capitol building committing suicide at some unreported time after the riots (months after?) , had anything to do with the actual riots? NYTimes and CNN correspondents getting desperate and creating links without evidence.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:50pm
- Tall Man
  
  “according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the inquiry.”
  
  “Anonymous sources”, I thought you regularly poured scorn on such sources…….
  
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  February 28, 2021 3:29pm
Sacha

Where I live, no-one takes any notice of the Prime Ministerial edicts. We know we are healthy, and have faith in our own defence responses.
One of my neighbours has just rung me to tell me about the newest lockdown. She feels somewhat sorry for the Aucklanders, thinks the PM is over-reacting once again, but hey at least it’s keeping her busy, and at least the rest of us can turn off and ignore the whole silly carry-on.
In other words, she (and I) are over it. Totally.
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February 28, 2021 9:50am
Maggie Pie

I see where Genocidaire apologist and green list MP Golriz Ghahraman, is blaming trigger-happy police for the rise in gun violence in Papa2toes.
When asked for her views on ‘501’s, Ms. Ghahraman told reporters…..” her partner likes them, but she prefers black lycra tights”

https://twitter.com/golrizghahraman/status/1365126021427597315
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February 28, 2021 9:52am
- Tall Man
  
  The woman is quite sickening really.
  
  Let’s see if the media run with this “attack” on the police or will they just stick with trying to pillory Simon Bridges….
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:08am
- kowtow
  
  Apart from the 501 who was on “electronic bail” when he went on his shooting spree ( how does that work) the other two recent shootings were so called “drive by” shootings .
  
  How the hell police de escalation training can prevent those is beyond me .
  
  However given that our gangsters are doing drive by shootings , which are actually a cultural appropriation from the ghettos of the USA perhaps the woksters in the media , politics , human rights and race commisions ,academia could launch a campaign to educate our gangs that ‘cultural appropriation” is a form of casual racism and they’ll all see the light , hold hands with one another ,sing a verse of kumbaya and hand in the stolen /smuggled guns which they’re not licensed to have and all become social workers ,drug and relationship counsellors…..
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    Drive by shootings have been here for a while.
    
    Ask David Garrett to fill you in.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:27pm
lazza

Happy Rare Disease Day!

Oh the irony … on this day, of another Auckland lockdown … for a “rare disease”!
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February 28, 2021 9:54am
fernglas

“No-one intentionally sets out to put others at risk” says our leader, telling us not to blame people. FFS, the guy (not person) had symptoms for 4 days before he (not they) got tested, including loss of taste and smell, then disobeyed instructions after testing by going to the gym. That sounds pretty intentional to me.
If you have a zero cases policy, then you must have a zero tolerance policy. Otherwise it is all a waste of time
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February 28, 2021 9:58am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It also needs a policy of zero intolerance of any breach of duty by the authorities or claimed authorities.
  
  The testing regime is not yet been demonstrated as being reliable in NZ except for creating fear and PR. The affect of that is that these lock downs may not be justified. The affects on the community have to be upheld too.
  
  The parties may not have had COVID. That condition needs to be really proven before stern public action is initiated. There are too many making money off COVID on the side. That should make our enforcers doubly cautious in their actions.
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:50pm
JibberJabber

https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1365766217018073092

Our children and grandchildren will pay the price for our selfish, cowardly hysteria.
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February 28, 2021 10:02am
- doublehappy
  
  Does anyone have the facts? What proportion higher is the number of cases and deaths from Covid-19 than previous years, of other flu seasons? I need this reported to me, so I am informed enough, to be to make my mind up.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:16pm
Scooter

Is it just a coincidence these new covid cases appear soon after the Cook Is flights start up or maybe testing over there is not up to standard.
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February 28, 2021 10:08am
Tall Man

I spoke with a primary school teacher recently and she has been tasked with “unlearning racism” for her students.

That is the problem with this sort of problem, numpties “assume” it exists even when it doesn’t as the “cure” suits their agenda.

Anyway, suck it up people, this is what you voted for, destroyers will destroy..
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February 28, 2021 10:12am
- Phronesis
  
  You have to remember that “racism” now means “treating everyone equally”. So unlearning racism is unlearning “treating everyone equally”.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:08pm
- doublehappy
  
  How many others have knots in their stomachs and high-stress levels due to this nonsense? It must be damaging others and not just me.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:20pm
  - Tall Man
    
    According to my mate over 50% of his patients are now regarded as suffering from “mental health” issues.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:23pm
Tall Man

Yep, ACT are just as gullible as ardern.

“Seymour has been calling for a “complete reset” of our approach to tackling coronavirus, including:

the mandatory use of the official COVID Tracer app
daily saliva tests for border and MIQ staff
earlier access to vaccines
a multi-disciplinary, public and private sector Epidemic Response Unit”

So much for the “balance” they supposedly offered.
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February 28, 2021 10:40am
Fletch

The Democrats look after their own. Most U.S citizens will get a $1,400 stimulus cheque, but if you’re a Federal employee you’ll likely get $1,400 a week.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/25/stimulus-check-1400-you-1400-week-federal-employee/

See, the lockdowns don’t affect them. Or the teachers, who will be paid whether schools are locked down or not. Or lawmakers. It’s just the regular folks who suffer.
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February 28, 2021 10:42am
mikenmildagain

A golden statue of Donald Trump that has caused a stir at the annual US gathering of conservatives was made in Mexico.

Of course.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/27/golden-trump-statue-mexico-cpac
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February 28, 2021 10:55am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It looks cute. Thanks to those nice border people.
  Here it is:
  https://www.oann.com/gold-colored-president-trump-statue-greets-conservatives-at-cpac/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gold-colored-president-trump-statue-greets-conservatives-at-cpac
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:57pm
  - Mike
    
    A golden idol for the Trumpistas to worship.
    
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    February 28, 2021 2:58pm
    - curry4me
      
      Mike: You’re right, it’s gross.
      
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      February 28, 2021 6:01pm
  - curry4me
    
    KevO’Brien: It looks gross. Gold statues have been a terrible idea since forever. It’s the sort of thing one would epect to see at the PMs next CCP virus announcement.
    
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    February 28, 2021 6:00pm
Maggie Pie

Police Officer ordered to ‘abandon pursuit’ of fleeing vehicle after telling Comms ……he was finding it difficult running on one leg.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/police-officer-injured-after-being-struck-fleeing-vehicle
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February 28, 2021 11:19am
I remember when

Do the lockdown security breaches highlight the unevenness of lockdown consequences.
Live in South Auckland so probably renting – government house price policies have massively increased rent.
Homelessness – so number one need is to somehow keep the rent payments under control.
Possibly family already working at multiple jobs to try to have a reasonable standard of living – can’t afford to lose their income.
Often larger households so means more contacts.
Should the Government be apologising for causing, or failing to reduce, so many of their problems.
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February 28, 2021 11:24am
oldfella

Hilary Barry has just tweeted:
“I think it’s a credit to the Parliamentary Press team that so many of them are sober and able to get to the Beehive at 9pm on a Saturday night.”

Who said they were sober? Did someone breath test them?
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February 28, 2021 11:40am
- Clyde
  
  FFS MSM are supposed to be able to provide 24/7 news gathering and broadcasting. Why is it a credit to the Press that they are sober when they are supposed to be either working or on standby? Ms Barry should be more concerned at being part of media that has been bought by Jacinda.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:53pm
  - kowtow
    
    It’s a sort of let’s get some giggles ,look at me thing .
    
    “Uh , oh , we’re such normal peeps , we have a dwink or two on a Saturday , you know , like normal folk do, te he he, ” Giggle giggle look at me.
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:19pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  What state were Cabinet in?
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:34pm
Fletch

The founder of Wikipedia is starting a competitor site because of the Leftist lean that Wiki has and its being dominated by leftie ‘fact checkers’.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wikipedias-founder-is-creating-new-free-speech-competitor-to-website-citing-leftist-domination/
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February 28, 2021 11:42am
- doublehappy
  
  Good on him.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:25pm
- SB2
  
  Fletch, many see Wiki as Jewish dominated and influenced.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHBxaeUMS0I
  
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  February 28, 2021 2:29pm
  - Cobolt24
    
    Nonsense stephie, academics control the discourse on that site. I have edited some things but it’s still heavily skewed and would take far more than one person to make things reasonable.
    
    A 2018 study by Shane Greenstein and Feng Zhu compared levels of political bias in Wikipedia and Encyclopaedia Britannica by quantifying each encyclopaedia’s respective usage of phrases favoured by Democratic or Republican members of US congress. Their study found that Wikipedia articles are more politically biased than those in Encyclopaedia Britannica, as well as being slanted towards Democratic (as opposed to Republican) points of view.
    https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/
    
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    February 28, 2021 3:21pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      “Reality has a well-known liberal bias”
      – Stephen Colbert
      
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      February 28, 2021 6:29pm
- curry4me
  
  Fletch: Thanks for the link. I just bookmarked it. Paralell worlds for left and right, I guess.
  
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  February 28, 2021 6:08pm
greybeard

Word of the year 2020: “Unprecedented”
Word of the year 2021: “Self-isolation”
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February 28, 2021 11:42am
- Happychappy
  
  Yes yes greybeard and the Prime Minister comes out with this scare mongering tactic.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-no-new-cases-in-community-ardern-and-bloomfield/GTEPV2RNMWN7VOUWW3TWIVZ2GA/
  
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  February 28, 2021 2:58pm
Ruahine

Does any one know the date of the wedding that I understand is being planned between Jacinda Ardern and Clarke Gayford.
I would like to know.
Then I can book a flight to the Sth Island without the risk of it being cancelled again.
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February 28, 2021 11:43am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Ruahine
  
  This will be privileged information, For your eyes only, to people like the editor of Vogue, Oprah, Stephen Colbert and various overseas TV stations so they can book their quarantine facilities well in advance.
  
  This is to ensure MAXIMUM coverage for the Beloved Leader in her campaihn to get an UN job.
  
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  February 28, 2021 2:12pm
Fletch

Antifa and BLM activists are now bragging about what they did on the 6th at the Capitol.

https://djhjmedia.com/steven/ignored-by-media-and-fbi-antifa-blm-activists-are-posting-photos-and-bragging-online-about-storming-us-capitol-on-jan-6/

Crickets in the media….
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February 28, 2021 11:46am
- Don Beckett
  
  Yeah Fletch. The truth is coming out.
  Remember how Batman, SB2, Wayne Mapp & a few others scoffed when you & I and others pointed this out several weeks ago.
  And, the FBI has become so politicised that its only partly effective.
  
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  February 28, 2021 2:04pm
  - SB2
    
    Don Beckett, I still scoff at the claims made especially by PJ Media, Breitbart, Gateway etc etc
    
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    February 28, 2021 2:33pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      That’s OK SB2 – you continue to show your stupidity.
      No surprises there.
      
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      February 28, 2021 3:07pm
  - Mike
    
    You sound confident that none of the over 200 arrested so far are actually Trump supporters.
    
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    February 28, 2021 2:47pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

For Sale:
My White Privilege Card. 76 years old ? but in mint condition. Never been used. Reason for selling: It hasn’t done any thing for me! No free college, no free food, no free housing, no free anything. I’ve had to go to work every day of my life while paying a boatload of taxes to carry those who chose not to work!
If interested, I prefer cash but willing to do an even trade for a Victim Card which seems much more widely accepted and comes with countless benefits without even having to show the card!
If interested contact me on my cell phone that I pay for every month.
Serious buyers only!
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February 28, 2021 11:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Oh lookie, at least 4 downtickers don’t want to trade their Victim Card
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:14pm
kowtow

stuffed running a story on anti Asian race crimes in US and A.

Of course the terrible rhetoric of Orange Man Bad to blame.

But a three minute internet search revealed that the perpetrators of the three crimes highlighted in the story weren’t (cough cough )Alabama red necks.

As the Orange Man rightly railed ” Fake News”.

The other issue with these “news” stories is as I have highlighted , it’s more what they’re not telling than what they are telling us that matters .

And then they wonder why they’re not trusted , going down the shitter and despised .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/300240812/nobody-came-nobody-helped-fears-of-antiasian-violence-rattle-the-asian-american-community
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February 28, 2021 12:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is 11 months old. Shows how shit the left are at math. Just had to repeat it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO_HCDuE1sw
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February 28, 2021 12:42pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING…

Lady Gaga’s beloved dogs Koji & Gustav have been returned safely after the Singer offered a $500,000 reward!

Still no word on the recovery of her ‘dogwalker’ who was shot in the chest during the kidnapping.
Lady Gaga tells media she may send flowers if his condition deteriorates.
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February 28, 2021 12:46pm
- Fletch
  
  There is a healthy and an unhealthy love of animals: and the nearest definition of the difference is that the unhealthy love of animals is serious. […]
  
  Wherever there is Animal Worship there is Human Sacrifice. That is, both symbolically and literally, a real truth of historical experience.
  
  — G. K. Chesterton, “On Seriousness,” The Uses of Diversity (1920).
  
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  February 28, 2021 12:59pm
- Phronesis
  
  She may find it hard to find a new dog walker now there’s 500 000 reasons to have a crack at taking the dogs.
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:12pm
info@cruzpro.com

My current automobile is a 2014 model with a cigarette lighter. Do newer modern cars still come with cigarette lighter plugs or have they been replaced with USB connectors?
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February 28, 2021 1:02pm
- doublehappy
  
  Don’t worry, you can get a cheap adaptor for your cigarette lighter to turn it into a USB [charger]. LOL
  
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  February 28, 2021 1:58pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yes they have them, but if it worries you, pull the fuse. Then listen to the abuse from the teenagers
  
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  February 28, 2021 4:16pm
Maggie Pie

People know what’s up. MSM makes out otherwise but we’re in Auckland and everybody we know thinks what’s happening right now is f- – ing insane!
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February 28, 2021 1:15pm
Rusty

So Auckland is in reset sorry I mean lockdown mode again!

So if Auckland goes without any new community cases for 7 days and then goes to level 2 but say a few days later a community outbreak occurs again does that mean back to level 3 or 4 again?

This could go on forever and ever until everyone is vaccinated and how long will that take and what about people who refuse vaccines?
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February 28, 2021 1:31pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Another 3 months of this could wreck most of Auckland’s surviving businesses.
  If you have to adapt to working from home, why change?
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:39pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from Oklahoma tweets…..

“President in name only. Who is really pulling the strings here?”

https://twitter.com/hollyjayewiley/status/1365487520755105794
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February 28, 2021 1:33pm
Fletch

Apparently there has been a huge Twitter purge, according to people on Gab.
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February 28, 2021 1:37pm
Maggie Pie

So called ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ proven to be correct as to just what a total bunch of f- -wits the WEF really are…..

https://twitter.com/wef/status/1365614687514165248
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February 28, 2021 2:16pm
TWEEDSE

The Horrid’s latest headline quotes Cindy as as saying “Covid Kills”.

Worried the sheep are wandering off?
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February 28, 2021 2:41pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Gotta maintain the propaganda and fear porn.
  Indoctrination takes time – keep the blue pills coming.
  
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  February 28, 2021 3:11pm
- kowtow
  
  Our Media Party keep reporting that Capt Sir Tom More died of covid .
  
  He was admitted to hospital with pneumonia and was 100 years old , what really killed him?
  
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  February 28, 2021 3:13pm
SB2

I see Trump will have a big day out sometime today as he attempts to fulfill biblical prophecy announcing his second coming

Whilst his deluded followers kept swept up in the rapture and swept into the swamp.
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February 28, 2021 3:08pm
Jack5

Is Richard Harman, the National part of Red Radio’s Sunday Morning politics panel, a Muller-Luxon supporter?

This morning, discussing Maori wards on local bodies, Richard wrote off Hobson’s Choice but didn’t mention Judith Collins vowing to overturn the “undemocratic” law that scraps polls on the wards.

A democratic element remained, said Harman, in that the decision to establish a ward would be made by councils that themselves were democratically elected.

Collins’s move was one of the first signs of life in National since it was knocked down on 17 October.

It still might be a harder job than right-wingers hoped to get National off the canvas and boxing again.

On Maori wards, Jane Clifton, the Leftist on the radio panel, didn’t think the matter was going to be controversial. It didn’t affect efficiency of councils – yep, Clifton said efficiency – which was the bigger problem in local bodies.
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February 28, 2021 3:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

2020. WORST. YEAR. EVER.
2021. Triple masks and Anal swabs.
Well that escalated quickly
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February 28, 2021 3:45pm
oldfella

Start spreading the news, New York, New York…
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A second former aide has come forward with sexual harassment allegations against New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who responded with a statement Saturday saying he never made advances toward her and never intended to be inappropriate.
https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-7fda294d42e92a2762fc7e7b9ee0cd57
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February 28, 2021 3:51pm
- curry4me
  
  oldfella: Bad news for Governor Andrew ‘granny killer’ Cuomo. Good news for NY if he is impeached.
  Maybe in 2022, or 2024; NY will go Red due to disgust with his mismanagement.
  
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  February 28, 2021 6:24pm
ecco

I see that scientist woman with the fluoro hair, Wiles, is upset at Aucklanders leaving Akl whilst they can. Maybe she should aim her vitriol at the retards that didn’t self isolate in South Auckland first. Maybe then they might get the message. They seem to be the problem, not all the law abiding Aucklanders who are following the laws.
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February 28, 2021 4:03pm
- V
  
  While she is at it, maybe she can point us in the direction of any journal publication on the subject of viruses she has actually published?
  
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  February 28, 2021 10:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

So Auckland has 1 new case, and 2 new in MIQ? What is the percentage of 3 divided by 1.7 million people in Auckland?
Watch your roving decimal point lefties – I know the answer
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February 28, 2021 4:19pm
- Mike
  
  42?
  
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  February 28, 2021 4:40pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  0.000176470588235%
  Approx. 2/10,000th’s of 1 percent.
  
  The harm created by the lock down will be much greater.
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:47pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    OK, that’s the right answer, but really, should you have been focussing on providing the right answer?
    … Wouldn’t it have been more meaningful to have composed a rap about little numbers and big numbers…
    or had a group discussion about why 100 figures in percentages as well as group sizes during Lockdown 2.?
    
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    February 28, 2021 6:04pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Correct. Why are we at Level 3 ???
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:04am
Yvette

COVID-19: Dr Ashley Bloomfield tells Kiwis to refer to MoH website after Māori Party co-leader’s misleading Facebook post.
Waititi’s post drew many concerns – many confused as to whether they should self-isolate, despite living out of Auckland – and whether he was providing official MoH advice.

Waititi has since edited his Facebook status.
“Kia Ora e te whānau, whilst the Ministry haven’t yet released this as a piece of their advice – we must actively think ahead of the game and take extra precautions in order to protect our whakapapa,” he wrote.
“A lot of whānau Māori attended these events, and we all have a role to play in being ahead of the eight-ball and preventing the spread.
“I have updated the above to make it clear.”

After Ardern saying there actually are consequences available for those who get things wrong, let us see how far she will go – particularly in the face of Waititi not really withdrawing anything, but implying people have not caught up yet with him.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/02/covid-19-dr-ashley-bloomfield-tells-kiwis-to-refer-to-moh-website-after-m-ori-party-co-leader-s-misleading-facebook-post.html
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February 28, 2021 4:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

In case you are interested in who infected who.. or whatever..

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/mapping-the-valentines-day-cluster-case-by-case
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February 28, 2021 4:56pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This is why I gave my partner the same plastic rose and card that I have given to her for 38 years.
  It is still there for next year – Covid or not
  
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  February 28, 2021 5:09pm
- Ruahine
  
  Yes.
  This of course would be the same scenario as for the common cold. Nobody admitted to hospital. Nobody died.
  Gave you a tick Maggy for hunting it down.
  Gov’t propaganda machine working overtime.
  
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  February 28, 2021 7:22pm
Maggie Pie

Just emerged from the pool and come back inside.
You can always tell when one of ZB’s most boring talkback hosts hasn’t even bothered to keep up with current events. Obviously never did any prior research, and wouldn’t know shite from sunni. But happy to say he’s proud of what Jacinda is dong.
Opens show by inviting listeners…. “to call in and discuss their most weird and wonderful dreams”.

https://youtu.be/UuScB_F80cs
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February 28, 2021 5:07pm
- graham
  
  Who’s that Maggie? Sound like Marcus Lush, he never seems to do any research or preparation for his shows.
  
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  February 28, 2021 6:19pm
fernglas

Can someone explain to me why the Police are stopping people from going into Auckland? Coming out, I see the logic, but going in?
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February 28, 2021 6:14pm
fernglas

Ardern in the press n said that it had been months since anyone had died of Covid. Did she overlook the person who was taken from isolation to intensive care just a week or so ago, in the throes of terminal cancer and who was tested and found to be positive, and was recorded as a Covid death?

“We are formally recording the sad death of a patient with COVID-19 at North Shore Hospital, which was first announced on Saturday 13 February.

This death has now been included in our official COVID-19 related deaths. A total of 26 people have now died with COVID-19 in New Zealand.”

You can’t have it both ways.
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February 28, 2021 6:20pm
Maggie Pie

And what about this caller to Magic….

“People don’t give a shit about the lockdown. We have a property over the road from the beach. You can tell just by looking at them they’re not locals. None of them could afford to live here for a start….”

LOL!!
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February 28, 2021 6:59pm
- Martin Williams
  
  John Banks calling into his old station?
  
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  February 28, 2021 7:04pm
V

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300240925/covid19-fivehour-waits-continue-at-aucklandwaikato-border-under-level-3-lockdown

Doesn’t this indicate our Police are thicker than pig shit?
Why aren’t the top brass hauled in to explain why they are actively now involved in destroying the respect people otherwise have for the Police.
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