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Happychappy

Well so much for kindness love and honesty in New Zealand Politics and all those getting upset on Simon Bridges straight forward and demanding Questions from in his words Woke Police Commissioner Coster.
So if anyone still thinks Jacinda Ardern really accepts and thinks that being kind nice and honest with people is what she believes New Zealander’s want in Politics you are really mistaken.
I have been saying for sometime now that our Prime Minister makes the bullets and dishes them out to her loyal bunch of foot soldiers or in this case Junior Ministers to fire without her name plasted all over them.
Well the proof in my mind happened yesterday in Parliament when two of these Cabinet ministers Michael Woods and Poto William’s charged with the task mock and throw dirt
to provoke Simon Bridges about being rolled as opposition leader of Natonal in the previous three year Parliamentary term.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/simon-bridges-mocked-over-leadership-issue-in-question-time-spat
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February 26, 2021 8:00am
- igm
  
  Ardern is a communist and really vile agenda-ridden disgrace. Stupid people and bludgers who support her will really whinge, if her socialist dreams and doctrine, become reality.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:21am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Most authoritarians self-promote as the Benevolent Leader, no matter how much destruction they cause. Look at any portrait of Mao Tse Tung, where he is always represented as being a kind uncle of the people.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:30am
    - SB2
      
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      And what about Auntie Judith?
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:03am
  - SB2
    
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    So says the neglible 0.00001 % ( or much less) of the voting public
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:02am
  - doggone7
    
    Being a “really vile agenda-ridden disgrace” is not something she has copyright on or is a sole registered user of.
    
    Have you considered that if she were on here daily demonstrating the qualities of a vile agenda-ridden disgrace she might be in ‘good’ company?
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:51am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Poto Williams is feral Labour.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:22am
  - herb1
    
    You are correct Kev , but having had to meet with her to explain climate change issues, I can say she’s very dim witted
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:37am
    - Nickc2
      
      She’s typical of the Labour Govts talent pool. Shallow as . . . . However, she can parrot Marxist dictates which happen to coincide with the aspirations of her leader, hence she got the job.
      
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      February 26, 2021 9:25am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Yep.
      
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      February 26, 2021 9:46am
      - sooty
        
        One of the nodding monkeys, who supply the backdrop for interviews and photo shoots!
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:19pm
    - fisho
      
      I’ll bet she was wearing the grandest pounamu carving in the room though. The best way to spot a public service worker in Wellington, I wonder if they get a dressing down if they rock up with one that’s bigger than their ‘one-up’.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:45pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Was this question ‘straight forward and demanding?
  
  “Do the police still arrest people in this country?”
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:42am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    I don’t know. Trying saying something online that might hurt someone’s feelings and see what happens.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:19am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Perhaps you and Simon Bridges could mug someone in the street and wait to see if the police arrive and arrest you, or provide you with counselling support.
      
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      February 26, 2021 10:39am
  - Frederick
    
    Judging on the Wellington CDB I would suggest not. Nearly every day I see persons flagrantly breaking the no alcohol law, often acting in an intimidating manner with nary a policeman in sight. I assume that as the perpetrators are persons on the fringe of society that the police just can’t be bothered. I once asked some policeman are the window washers at the lights breaking the law. They confirmed they were. I then asked why aren’t they being arrested and issued trespass notices. They said that doesn’t put them off and they will just come back. Brilliant!
    So I think Simons question was a fair one. The police, at least in the Wellington CBD, don’t appear to have upholding the law on their remit.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:36am
  - Happychappy
    
    Who would care when we have seen the Police fall in to line time and time again when Jacinda Ardern flaps her jaws on something she wants to silence others.
    It’s just like you MM when you condemn others for doi g exactly what you do most days , use your mouth instead of your brain.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:43am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Who cares – he didn’t ask that question. Try and keep up milksop, your lack of attention to detail is, well, criminal.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:52pm
- Philview
  
  The strategy is fairly obvious now. Jacinda holds a platform and talks about kindness and the TV media are controlled enough to keep the focus on her. The 2nd strategy is to push through a radical agenda with the TV media silent on what is going on and most the country are unaware of it. For example, last night the TVNZ news were attacking Hamish Walker and not a mention of the Maori Council ward change that has been pushed at haste the day before and no mention of the brutal debate in parliament and that should have been played to the nation to enable the country to focus on what is going on in NZ.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:32am
  - hilaryt
    
    Forsooth, yea verily.
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:33pm
  - tf78
    
    Phil – I think the wrong person was dubbed “The Smiling Assassin”.
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:15pm
- Juliet2554
  
  I want Simon back as National leader.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:57am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I want Muller to be unemployed.
    
    Putting the W into woke and wanker
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:11am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  wait, wasn’t Andrew Little a leader of the labour party at one time?
  Would be real mature if everytime he made comment, people just pointed and laughed.
  Bwhahahaha!
  
  Real headline is “Labour MPs play the man, not the ball: childish behavior unbecoming to parliament”.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:23pm
krazykiwi

RT-PCR is unreliable, and alarmingly prone to political manipulation. Simply change the transcription cycle count and that changes the ratio of +ve vs -ve tests.

This means that with the stroke of a pen, health/political bureaucrats can increase or decrease ‘cases’ to suit their unpublished agenda.

So why did WHO wait until the day after Biden’s inauguration to decrease the recommended cycle count, thereby helping ‘cases’ drop away?
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February 26, 2021 8:01am
- kowtow
  
  Miraculous things happened the day after the inauguration .
  
  Another auspicious augury was the USA XX chromosome football team failed to “take a knee” for the first time in ages at a recent outing.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/21/uswnt-brazil-shebelieves-cup-press-rapinoe
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:22am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  It was a conspiracy of course. What are you going to do about it besides daily bleats on KB?
  Condolences for not making the first post, you must be heartbroken.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:24am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Mrs kk and I like to go for walks. At the top of our drive we can turn left, or right and enjoy a picturesque 45-50 minute walk together.
    
    Immediately across the road there is usually a scruffy dog hanging about. It doesn’t matter if we go left or right the dog follows, making a nuisance of itself, sniffing my crotch or, much to the amusement of mrs kk, attempting to hump my leg.
    
    Brian, you remind me of this dog.
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:58am
    - kowtow
      
      Don’t wear shorts .
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:22am
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  Yep, and they are using the reduced cycles in the UK to say that vaccines are dropping the infection rates (of the flu). I actually heard a “professor” on UK Talk Radio today saying that Covid had “forced flu out”. So, one virus is attacking another. Insanity. They don’t even care how ridiculous their lies are now, similar to the 1930s in Germany.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:28am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I mentioned this the other day, but mis-reported it. I said that there had been zero flu deaths in the UK last month.
    
    In fact, there have been zero flu deaths in the seven weeks since January 1st.
    
    Zero.
    
    This, in a country where a normal Flu season sees 17,000 people die from it.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:06am
    - Phronesis
      
      It’s actually even stranger:
      
      Public Health England has not recorded a single case of the virus so far this year through routine surveillance tests, despite it being the height of the usual flu season.
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9295743/NO-cases-influenza-detected-England-year-social-distancing-measures.html
      
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      February 26, 2021 9:18am
    - MCos
      
      None here either. Usually around 500.
      It’s a rum business.
      
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      February 26, 2021 10:05am
    - SB2
      
      krazykiwi, I believe I reminded you yesterday of the obvious fact that lockdowns , PEP, Social distancing etc, etc would go a long way explaining that .
      
      Obviously not you!
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:08am
  - I remember when
    
    As I asked yesterday ‘If it’s stopping the spread of the flu why is it being successful with covid?’
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:56am
    - SB2
      
      I remember when, for the umpteenth time Covid 19 is afar more contagious than the flu.
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:09am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        I know we are just choosing facts to score points against each other.
        But it’s not as simple at just the degree of contagiousness.
        Here is a comment from the WHO in the opposite direction which give ‘advantage’ to the flu:
        “The speed of transmission is an important point of difference between the two viruses. Influenza has a shorter median incubation period (the time from infection to appearance of symptoms) and a shorter serial interval (the time between successive cases) than COVID-19 virus. The serial interval for COVID-19 virus is estimated to be 5-6 days, while for influenza virus, the serial interval is 3 days.
        This means that influenza can spread faster than COVID-19. ”
        https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-similarities-and-differences-with-influenza#:~:text=The%20speed%20of%20transmission%20is,major%20driver%20of%20transmission.
        Other medical experts say the longer incubation period paradoxically makes Covid WORSE since you might spread it unknowingly. Then there is a theory Covid MIGHT linger longer in the air.
        Who the fuck knows exactly?
        All that matters is scoring points on the internet.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:35pm
      - Cobolt24
        
        I remember when you said it was not that big of a deal in this comment chain
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/01/general_debate_27_january_2020.html#comment-2630811
        
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        February 26, 2021 2:22pm
  - Juliet2554
    
    If you tell a lie big enough and often enough, people will start to believe you. Who said this quote?
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:00am
    - SB2
      
      Umm wasn’t it Trump or similar.
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:10am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        Trump, rent free, in SB2’s head, he be.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:38pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        It was Hitler, you stupid boy.
        TDS exposed again
        
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        February 26, 2021 5:24pm
  - covfefe
    
    There is such a thing as viral interference – look it up. I am very anti-lockdown and think covid has been way over-hyped and used for political ends. However, anti-lockdown folks don’t make things better for themselves by talking about scientific things that they don’t understand very well. We really have seen almost no influenza and have been testing for it. If you want to read someone smart wtih a scientific background, read Matt Ridley the rational optimist.
    RT-PCR is also not unreliable – it is just that interpretation isn’t straightforward.
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:48pm
- Scott
  
  And on that theme krazy, why did Pfizer not announce the successful vaccine until a week after the presidential election? Could it be that they didn’t want to give good news that would enable Pres Trump to be re-elected?
  
  Now Scott, you might say, that is a conspiracy theory and no head of a pharmaceutical company would do that given that thousands of lives are at stake.
  Well actually they would. We know that the Trump agenda was vociferously opposed by all of the globalist elite’s around the world. They would do anything to get him out of office.
  
  So the announcement of the vaccine got delayed until after the election.
  Prior to the election the big tech giants put their full weight behind Joe Biden and suppressed good news about Pres Trump.
  
  The election itself had multiple integrity issues but no one under the current regime will investigate them.
  I believe that there is a worldwide elite conspiracy to advance a globalist left-wing progressive agenda. It involves globalist elite figures like Bill Gates, the Democrat party, the mainstream media particularly CNN and the New York Times and the Washington Post, big tech and the big corporations such as Amazon.
  
  Right now here in New Zealand our society is being transformed beyond all recognition in a leftist progressive direction. All while hiding under the Covid pandemic. Make no mistake, this conspiracy affects us all.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:50am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    What do you call a political system where gigantic corporations manipulate the politicians? It can’t be fascism, because that’s when the politicians have their jackboots on the necks of the corporations. It can’t be communism, because the corporations exist.
    
    What is it? (Orwell didn’t see it coming…)
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s stakeholder fascism… the corporations are all willingly dancing to the same tune…and if any business isn’t Carbon Zero by 2030 or employing a panoply of humanity, they’ll be down the tubes.
      
      https://nzsuperfund.nz/assets/documents-sys/NZSF-2017-Carbon-Footprint.pdf
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:11am
      - SB2
        
        MW, well so long as you, I and others can continue post here and elsewhere then we can be at peace with the world.
        
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        February 26, 2021 11:14am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Corporatism?
      
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      December 29, 2021 2:27pm
  - kevn
    
    @Scott… Pfizers vaccine effort is so ‘good’, India have banned it.
    Good enough for NZ though?
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:11am
    - SB2
      
      kevn , untrue. That was an Alex Jones Infowars claim,
      
      https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-india-ban-pfizer-covid-vaccine-biontech-coronavirus-1570158
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:19am
      - kevn
        
        @sb2… India HAS temporarily BANNED the Pfizer vaccine. Pfizer has withdrawn it’s application for their vaccines use in India.
        Dig deeper pal.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:35pm
      - Batman
        
        I’m sure it’s not at all to do with the local biotech companies and their relationships with the Modhi government! No, definitely not…
        
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        February 26, 2021 2:04pm
  - Juliet2554
    
    two words – UNITED NATIONS
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:06am
    - Batman
      
      I see that you have rebranded from QAnon themes to the classic UN and globalist conspiracy themes, Juliet. Though they are the same themes, just pointing at a different made-up enemy.
      
      Do you recant the wild claims you made up until mid-Jan? You know, how Biden wasn’t going to be President and the National Guard troops were there as part of ‘the plan’™️
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:40am
      - kloyd0306
        
        You posting as a commentator or as a moderator?
        
        What makes you so special?
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:42pm
      - Batman
        
        I posted under my name didn’t I? Clearly moderation is not done using individual commenters names, with the exception of David who can do as he pleases of course.
        
        Nothing wrong with a good old fisking of Juliet’s rubbish track record of espousing conspiratorial nonsense.
        
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        February 26, 2021 2:17pm
  - SB2
    
    Scott,
    
    “Make no mistake, this conspiracy affects us all” ??
    
    Only the deluded and paranoid of mind believe that kind of pulp fiction.
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:12am
  - virtualmark
    
    “I believe that there is a worldwide elite conspiracy to advance a globalist left-wing progressive agenda. It involves globalist elite figures like Bill Gates, the Democrat party, the mainstream media particularly CNN and the New York Times and the Washington Post, big tech and the big corporations such as Amazon.”
    
    That is legitimately bonkers.
    
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    February 26, 2021 4:34pm
- Juliet2554
  
  this whole pandemic was to bring in mail in voting to get rid of Trump. He was a threat to their establishment. Have we all figured this out yet. On the day of Biden’s inauguration, I knew cases would drop substantially. Conspiracy Theorists right again.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:59am
  - RichardX
    
    Juliet2554
    this whole pandemic was to bring in mail in voting to get rid of Trump. He was a threat to their establishment. Have we all figured this out yet. On the day of Biden’s inauguration, I knew cases would drop substantially. Conspiracy Theorists right again.
    
    FEBRUARY 26, 2021 9:59AM
    
    At least you admit you are a conspiracy theorist.
    
    Were you right when you made allegations about who had Pelosi’s laptop and what they were going to do with it?
    Were you right when you claimed Pelosi had been caught selling GE Aviation to China?
    Were you right when you claimed the guy who stole the podium from the Capitol was BLM?
    
    You made all of these claims on just one day.
    You need better sources or better research.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:12pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Richard, fruitcakes like Juliet never look back and wonder why their wild claims have not been substantiated. They are always one more step ahead with the latest babble from their webshite du jour.
      
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      February 26, 2021 1:10pm
      - virtualmark
        
        They all have the attention spans of goldfish.
        
        What they said 10 seconds ago has already been overtaken by their next fever spasm.
        
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        February 26, 2021 4:36pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        A bit like the fruitcake who said nobody makes money from selling books on one day, and then everybody makes money from selling books the next.
        
        LOL!!!
        
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        February 26, 2021 9:57pm
- tf78
  
  krazy – remember when Donald Trump said it was a “Casedemic” not a pandemic.
  
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  February 26, 2021 5:16pm
Tony Stuart

I think today will mark the day we reached Peak Woke; Mr Potato Head is going gender neutral:

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1365004215186296839

It’s a crazy old world we live in, that’s for sure!
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February 26, 2021 8:02am
- virtualmark
  
  Mrs Potato Head always had her doubts about him.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:18am
- Bobba Fret
  
  FFS…he’s a potato! Unbelievable. No more manhole covers. Have Barbie, big Jim and Action Man gone gender neutral yet?
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:23am
- kowtow
  
  Peak woke?
  
  They’re jus’ gettin’ started ,we ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:25am
- redeye
  
  Well given the mustache, if he’s not a male it must be Italian.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:58am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Greek
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:15am
  - kowtow
    
    no , he not got tomato stains on his vest.
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:07pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Gender neutral is to be preferred to gender fluid.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:48am
  - Harriet
    
    Language has gender humans have sex.
    
    Clearly it’s their state of mind.
    
    Not for one thought or another, but at least two, they feel awkward – and outwardly portray that by then being awkward – until you no longer are!
    
    That’s how I feel about it. 😎
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:34am
- Fletch
  
  I thought Mr Potato Head always had interchangeable bits ?
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:22am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Now he has a removable dick?
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:32pm
- kloyd0306
  
  When is the typically leftist Women’s Rights Movement going to protest that trans-gender freaks are infiltrating women’s sports?
  
  How come those same freaks are not infiltrating men’s sports?
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:39am
  - kloyd0306
    
    Thanks Stupid Boy Squared.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:43pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Interesting point.
    Because there is a lie peddled that there is no advantage to the transitioned male-> female athlete.
    They just test for testosterone levels and pretend all the years as a man, muscle attachments and skeleton don’t count at all.
    The fact that no female->male athletes are smashing records in the other direction does hint at the biological advantage and reality for certain types of sport.
    I really feel contempt for transitioned athletes knocking genuine women of their hard earned pedestal. Selfish arseholes really.
    If they must compete there needs to be an ‘other’ category.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:48pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    This is why I am in FB jail. Shared a post about a black American winning the Women’s 400 hurdles.
    Some poncy moderator got offended
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:34pm
- tf78
  
  Spuds to that!
  
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  February 26, 2021 5:17pm
Paulus

WHO has always been against Trump from day one as Trump had little/no time for the bureaucracy and costs of the WHO as part of his love also for the UN.
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February 26, 2021 8:04am
- Simon
  
  Trump is America first. The lawless unaccountable corrupt international organisations like WHO are the polar opposite of accountable governance for the good of the people that actually vote.
  
  Look at the utter garbage of the Climate Commission. Anti NZ garbage. Climate Commission hurting NZ living standards as part of some international framework which Wellington will always defer too.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:33am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Trump was vilified for no other reason than he committed the ultimate sin of opting out of being “one of them,” and instead decided to serve his country rather than the corrupt system that has sucked the life-blood out of it for half a century or more. If he had of fallen into line, he would have been fine. All of his troubles over the last 4 or 5 years would have never have happened, because they are all based on nothing whatsoever and designed to disrupt any changes that he wanted to make.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:15am
  - Harriet
    
    Trump is western survival.
    
    If you think the Allied UK didn’t think much about NZ when they no longer needed the trade arrangement back in the ’70’s.
    
    Then wait until I tell you how China views you; there is no trade – just China economic policy. 😎
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:17am
    - Master Mariner
      
      exactly.
      That was the whole original idea of TPP.
      Western economic rules.
      Now look whats happened. China will join and guess who’s rules will apply or have veto power in changing them.
      It really is a Western economic Own Goal.
      Next thing is all have to agree to Chinas new economic EEZ if you want to trade.
      Watch this space.
      The Dragon is unleashing.
      
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      February 26, 2021 2:44pm
- Inandout
  
  Trump must smile to himself when a number of Dem pollies are asking for Biden to be kept away from the nuclear codes, presumably because of Joe’s bumbling. Of course Harris has been planning for this eventuality but the blind ‘liberals’, of which KB has its fair share, still consider Biden the ‘peoples’ choice’.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:28am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  Paulus, get in quick before you are banned from calling supranational entities into question. Hate speech, or something:
  
  https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1364591708206432256
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:38am
- SB2
  
  Paulus , utter rubbish! The crippled mindset Trump’s legacy has left behind.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Look at the head honcho. Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front, which was labeled a terrorist group by the United States.
  
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  February 26, 2021 5:39pm
I remember when

‘Pressure mounts to prioritise vaccines for South Auckland.’
There are two thoughts on doing this –
There have been a number of large clusters which support this approach.
However, is it also a bit like rewarding poor behaviour and attention to isolation rules.
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February 26, 2021 8:07am
- Simon
  
  Covid cult explanation
  
  A lot of people in south Auckland work at the airport so makes sense. Also a lot of obese people in south Auckland as well
  
  Obese that work at airport. Not good
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:38am
  - DeepBlue
    
    And many in these families are essential workers who missed the 5 week Covid holiday to keep us safe.
    
    Increasing the halo of vaccinated people around Auckland Airport and MIQ facilities is as good a place as any to start.
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:49pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  I find it interesting that the Covid outbreaks have ocurred in (cough) certain areas of Auckland and not in (cough) certain other areas of Auckland.
  One is left to draw ones own conclusions about why that might be.
  Some would say its due to the lack of good health habits but of course I couldnt possibly comment.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:46am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    more people living in each house, and lifestyles that see them mixing more frequently with others (church etc)
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:54am
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    I used to cough in public to hide my farts; now I fart in public to hide my coughs.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:40am
  - hullkiwi
    
    How about another reason. May be the requirements for MIQ of all people travelling through Auckland Intetnational do align with what we are told in the media.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:41am
  - MCos
    
    Don’t beat around the bush, last man.
    
    All the international passenger airports are in Mangere, as is the Jet Park Hotel and most of the people who do the cleaning, driving and other grunt work associated with the infected passengers that arrive every day.
    
    That’s a bad cough you have there.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:17am
  - SB2
    
    Lastman , nor in our Public and Private hospitals etc Do have a sevre head cold ?
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They got no car to drive to the Shore
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:41pm
- Nickc2
  
  Rewarding poor behaviour and non-achievers is the new NZ personified.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:41am
- Bill Felt
  
  “is it also a bit like rewarding poor behaviour ”
  
  you mean socialism!
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:24am
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So a judge has reserved his decision in a careless driving case where a e-scooter hit a passenger getting off a bus. The driver claimed that the passenger should have looked before stepping off the bus.
McIntyre’s (driver) lawyer Alistair Haskett asked Christensen (injured bus passenger) if she had looked left or right before stepping off the bus. She answered by saying she was getting off a bus, which was a safe place and that she was not crossing a road.
While pedestrians take reasonable care with respect to other pedestrians, they do not expect to have to watch out for bikes, scooters, etc – pedestrians would expect that drivers take care.
Stuff indicated that if convicted the driver faces up to $4500 fine or up to three months in prison but it is extremely unlikely the sentence would come anywhere near this. However Stuff neglected to indicate (surely the journo should have realised this) that the driver faces at least 6 months disqualification. This is why the driver would have hired a lawyer to fight the case tooth and nail.
If the judge does acquit the driver on the careless driving charge, councils should immediately ban e-scooters.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300237176/woman-left-with-brain-injury-after-being-hit-by-escooter-in-auckland-court-hears
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February 26, 2021 8:14am
- krazykiwi
  
  If the judge does acquit the driver on the careless driving charge, councils should immediately ban e-scooters.
  
  Agreed. The mass * velocity equation is an order of magnitude more damaging in the case of human+scooter+speed. I expect most people have seen scooter riders being mostly respectful, while seeing the occasional nutter.
  
  The problem with disqualification is that one doesn’t need a drivers’ licence to operate a scooter, so that makes it a bit toothless?
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:35am
  - peterwn
    
    Wrong. A disqualified driver took his elderly mum’s mobility scooter (which is a vehicle but not a motor vehicle) and drove down the road (like e-scooters a licence is not needed). He was stopped by a police officer who booked him for driving while disqualified and confiscated the scooter for 30 days. The Police agreed to return the scooter if mum made a theft complaint against her son.
    See Land Transport Act:
    S8 covers careless use of vehicle and S2 defines a vehicle which includes bikes, skates, scooters, etc but not pushchairs.
    S38 sets the penalty for careless use of a vehicle (not just a motor vehicle) causing injury or death including disqualification. So the driver of the e-scooter faces disqualification if convicted.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:24am
    - peterwn
      
      Coming to think of it, there is an issue here. The news item about the scooter incident was before the case went to court. Perhaps the driving while disqualified charge failed meaning my conclusion was wrong. It occurred to me that there was nothing to stop a disqualified driver riding a bicycle and the various parts of the Act make no distinction between powered and non-powered vehicles which are not ‘motor vehicles’. Hence there would be no distinction between a pedal bike and a e-bike (or e-scooter). So perhaps the Stuff reporter was correct in omitting disqualification as a penalty in this case.
      
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      February 26, 2021 9:39am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        ‘Stuff reporter was correct’
        
        Please do fk with my perception of Stuff
        
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        February 26, 2021 11:21am
    - krazykiwi
      
      I was thinking more of people who have never had a divers licence operating their scooter. Kids, youth etc. Disqualification for them would mean what?
      
      For the record, I’m in favour of a hefty fine, scaling with the extent of the injury suffered by the pedestrian, or extent of damage to property.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:09pm
      - peterwn
        
        A person who drives a vehicle without a licence can be disqualified. It means the person cannot apply for a licence while disqualified. For driving offences the penalty that stings the most is disqualification, so drivers facing disqualification often will hire a lawyer to fight the charge tooth and nail. The e-scooter driver in this case probably also drives a car (possibly as part of employment) so would be desperate not to lose his licence.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:30pm
  - cmm
    
    Worse is that kinetic energy is proportional to mass * velocity squared. Doubling the speed makes 4 times the kinetic energy.
    
    Energy and momentum both play their part in causing damage, but energy is generally the winner on the day.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:54am
    - Master Mariner
      
      At the end of the day, regardless of who was wrong or right.
      the important thing here is ,
      “Might is Right” because that is where the consequences lay and very simple physics.
      
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      February 26, 2021 2:49pm
- alex Masterley
  
  It is very dificult for some-one to escape a careless driving charge.
  The concept of “Careless” is incredibly broad and difficult to get around.
  I have tried in the past.
  Reading the summary of the case in the paper, I expect the driver will be convicted and will loose his licence for the mandatory 6 month period.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:41am
- kowtow
  
  I suspect there’s more to this than just the simple “careless” charge and if this guy gets off the crown should take it further .
  The defence are arguing that the victim should have been taking care on the footpath , which they are claiming is part of the road , and therefor it was incumbent on her to take due care and attention , whne she was the one bowled over .
  
  What loon ever thought it was a good idea to put motor vehicles on pedestrian footpaths .( Ans : woke green loonsters)
  
  WTF ?
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:51am
  - cmm
    
    Quite.
    
    When you are standing in the middle of the road you should have the reasonable expectation of objects moving at vehicle speeds.
    
    When you’re on the footpath then it is that objects are moving at walking speed – human running speed at a push.
    
    Nobody should be riding a bike, electric scooter or horse at high speeds on a pedestrian walkway.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:59am
    - peterwn
      
      E-scooter drivers on footpaths could perhaps be required to be preceded by a person holding a red flag.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:33pm
      - kowtow
        
        No they should just foxtrot oscar back onto the carriageway where vehicles belong and allow pedestrians to enjoy the footpath in peace.
        
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        February 26, 2021 2:23pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        There is a distinction to be made here. There are some specifically dual use pathways designed for Bikes (and scooters) as well as pedestrians. On those bikes and presumably e-scooters are effectively entitled to move at a reasonable speed (say up to 30 kph) and pedestrians do need to be aware of this and take care. These can be (but aren’t necessarily) rather wider than a normal footpath. Not uncommon in my area.
        
        Other footpaths are designed to primarily cater for pedestrians and on those it would seem at least reasonable to expect a lower speed, say around 15-18 kph at most.
        
        In the case in point, although I don’t know the exact circumstances, I suspect that the scooter was travelling too fast for the environment it was in, and that is a common problem with those scooters. Especially where “enthusiasts” have removed speed limiters, and in a number of cases I am aware of where the rider was “under the influence”. I rather agree with the person who was hit, getting off a bus should not require a strict “look right, look left, look right again” sort of routine. The scooter rider should undoubtedly have been more cautious around a stopped bus and a bus stop.
        
        As an aside, I have a cousin (and not a young fellow either) who has an e-scooter and one evening after a fair few was riding it home along the footpath. As he swung gracefully (as he put it) around a corner at speed he encountered a pedestrian and took sudden evasive action. Result, two weeks with his leg up and six weeks of physio. Pedestrian shaken but not touched, though apparently somewhat unnerved by the language. Swears he will be more cautious in the future.
        
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        February 26, 2021 4:51pm
- I Hate Wordpress
  
  So she didn’t look where she was going, and could have herself killed a blind person or child, etc.
  
  Everyone sucks here.
  
  As much as I want e-scooters to go away, I hope this case fails: she was switching context from passenger to pedestrian so rules such as slowing down and not causing pedestrians to swerve/avoid don’t apply. If the rules need changing then that’s a separate issue, but I’ve little sympathy for someone who didn’t bother to look where they were going.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:52am
  - kowtow
    
    FFS , getting off a bus , you look at the steps or ahead , as the victim said , you don’t look left or right for motorised traffic as if you’re xing a road .
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:12pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Those in charge of a motor scooter have a duty of care. They have the instrument which causes damage so have the greater obligations.
  It’s a novel situation, the road traffic laws don’t fit properly. A fine of, say, $300 may deliver the appropriate slap on the wrist and warning to others to be careful. I don’t consider a loss of motor vehicle licence appropriate.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:57am
kowtow

Coster wants folk to see what “policing by consent ” looks like .

We have to go back to the Peel Principles to understand what that’s all about , not as Coster said loon anti vaxxer protests or far left BLM rioters ( he has a soft spot for the far left BLM , having gone to one of their ‘vigils” ).

Here they are , with an introduction.;

“Sir Robert Peel became Home Secretary in 1822 and in 1829 established the first full-time, professional and centrally-organised police force in England and Wales, for the Greater London area.

The reforms introduced by Sir Robert Peel and the first Police Commissioners were based on a philosophy that the power of the police comes from the common consent of the public, as opposed to the power of the state.

The nine principles that underpin this philosophy were set out in the ‘General Instructions’ issued to every new police officer from 1829 onwards. The principles are still valid today and have shaped the approach that HMIC takes when assessing how well police forces are working for the public.

These principles are:

1.The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder
2.The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon public approval of police actions
3.Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observance of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public
4.The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force
5.Police seek and preserve public favour not by pandering to public opinion but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law
6.Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient
7.Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence
8.Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary
9.The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it”

https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/police-crime-prevention-service—a-short-history/744/the-peelian-principles/#:~:text=The%20principles%20are%20still%20valid,to%20prevent%20crime%20and%20disorder

I’d opine that the ever increasing calls from within the police to arm , the routine wearing of stab vests, the presence of Tasers , firearms routinely available in the boot of patrol cars ,the co manning of illegal roadblocks , the open displays of gang power up and down the country , the open pandering to racial minorities , the increasing amounts of gun violence , the demonising of licensed firearms owners , etc

are all indicators of a failure in policing by consent and we don’t need to be lectured by Chief Plod about far left violence by race baiters in the USA to recognise that there’s something very rotten in the state of policing in this realm.
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February 26, 2021 8:15am
- kowtow
  
  ps
  
  When police persons ( xx ,xy ) are shown on our news channels on an almost daily basis guarding a scene of crime , brandishing combat rifles , designed for the USA’s eternal wars in South east asia ( AR15) ,when the perpetrators are in fact long long gone ,then the police themselves are indicating very firmly that the days of “policing by consent” are long gone , consigned to the era of a Victorian past which is now as foreign to us as a private detective in a deer stalker with an ex Indian Raj army doctor as a side kick , declaring ” The Game’s afoot “
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:03am
- peterwn
  
  Policing by consent includes includes charging a property occupier with kidnapping when he has made a lawful citizens arrest.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:27am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  All of those are symptoms of a rapidly degenerating, incohesive society, a process that correlates to an astounding degree to the widespread adoption and implementation of liberal ideology. It’s logical conclusion is social chaos.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:46am
- Harriet
  
  “….I’d opine that the ever increasing calls from within the police to…… the routine wearing of stab vests………are all indicators of a failure in policing by consent….”
  
  It DID start out with consent.
  
  In the late 80’s to early 90’s the police uniform was changed from the formal to informal.
  
  It was PR’d in the print media with a male and female constable wearing ‘kneepads’ for H&S, ‘peaked caps’ for sunburn H&S, ‘tool belts’ for spinal H&S, ‘rubber boots’ for H&S.
  
  I took one look at that picture and remarked ‘they are dressed up for combat’ — that was compared to the old formal uniform that was more one of an ‘officers uniform’ — to the proposed ‘infantry uniform’.
  
  And over time they now look like a Trump militia. 😎
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:52am
Rusty

The WHO (world health org) is a socialist organization.

They are anti-democracy and anti-capitalism. A lot of their rhetoric is blaming the US and the west for the worlds health and social problems.

Yet at the same time they don’t mind the US and the west giving them billions of dollars every year to keep their org running.

Didn’t Ashley Bloomfield work at the WHO for a while?
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February 26, 2021 8:21am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Yes, he did. So he’s probably a communist
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  February 26, 2021 8:45am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    He looks like one. Ordinary, everyday folk are really all communists – even KBers with preoccupation about communists, are probably communists covering their tracks.
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:59am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Deep cover commies…
      
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      February 26, 2021 9:12am
    - NoFax
      
      Tedros Adhanom (DG of WHO) is a member of Tigray People’s Liberation Front in Ethiopia and served as a Health Minister. The Tigray People’s Liberation Front party is communist.
      
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      February 26, 2021 10:02am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Your information appears to be incorrect.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:01pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        What is incorrect?
        Not providing Ghebreyesus’ family name?
        
        He was Ethiopia’s Minister of Health 2005-2012
        His political Party is the TPLF
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tedros_Adhanom
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:41pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        From cursory research (like yours, I suspect), the TPLF appeared to have ditched communism in about 1991, when Tedros was about 25. The TPLF was the main component of the Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front, which effectively ran Ethiopia as a one-party state for 30 years.
        Tedros appears to have been be a technocratic public health expert. I suppose it’s possible be became a fully indoctrinated communists while studying at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, the University of London,and the University of Nottingham.
        
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        February 26, 2021 1:17pm
  - Dougal10
    
    Every body realizes you put the // in to appease fraser house but you must be feeling good about letting your real feelings out.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:06am
  - Juliet2554
    
    Oh I didnt know that. Interesting….
    Head of WHO is a racialist. He is in bed with China. Nominated for that role by our best friend Bill Gates.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:02am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      So he’s a racialist, a communist and a stooge for billionaires?
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You are correct Mike. That is not sarc, but the truth
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:48pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  In 2011… working on non-communicable disease prevention.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:49am
  - SB2
    
    MW, is that a fact?
    
    Which proves that Dr. Blomfield is an undercover deep state CCP communist agent?
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:27am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      MW, is that a fact?
      
      Well, it appears to be if we are to believe this press release from the Ministry of Health
      
      By way of background, Dr Bloomfield qualified in medicine at the University of Auckland in 1990 and after several years of clinical work specialised in public health medicine. His particular area of professional interest is non-communicable disease prevention and control, and he spent 2011 at the World Health Organization in Geneva working on this topic at a global level.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:45pm
hullkiwi

Housing, yesterday’s diversion/distraction and a lesson in how to make people agree and not pay attention to the lies and failures in Covid Papatoetoe.

1. From early inthe morningyou have Orr in the media telling us about the concerns of the heated up housing market. Also telling us what levers he has at his disposal, but not telling us the real causes.
2. Big accordsigned between Robertsooon and Orr (butwait, isn’t already Orr’s job to recommend to govt macro requirements to slow house inflation?)
3. Then to cap off the distractions, Maori housing groups are on the soapbox wanting:
a) govt cash to help design and build more social housing for Maori (I thought that was where some of the Waitangi money was meant to go?); and
b) they want the banks to line up and loan Maori money on their tribal freehold land. Really, who is going to be the body corporate to take responsibility for the loan and be accountable for repayment of the loan when the loan is secured over “tribal land”?

All of this was to distract the fact that circa 1,000 people in South Auckland have been told to self isolate (as if that is going to happen?) All in an effort to avoid telling the truth about Covid numbers and avoid locking down NZ brcause all the “big events” over the next two weeks.

And for those who think I’m making it up that we are being provided with pantomime government….I’ve seen the instructions that were sent out for the Auckland lockdown 11 days ago…let’s say Jacinda changed her mind about lockdowns 2 days in……
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February 26, 2021 8:21am
- Simon
  
  Lockdowns wearing thin. The covid cult are over playing their hand. After one year of stupidity more people are starting to think.
  
  2020 year of the sheep is over.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:44am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Jacinda’s political strategists certainly picked up on the noise that lockdowns killing major planned events will be damaging to her political capital. But her problem is, she needs the “fear” to stay in the population, so that we all queue up happily to be vaccinated like sheep.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:15am
  - Juliet2554
    
    thank God, can proudly say I was never a sheep.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:03am
    - RichardX
      
      Juliet2554
      thank God, can proudly say I was never a sheep.
      
      FEBRUARY 26, 2021 10:03AM
      
      You are a sheep but just a different breed.
      
      Your sources are different but you still believe what you are told in a continual loop of confirmation bias without adequately testing any of it or understanding the problem with unfalsifiable statements.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:50pm
  - kowtow
    
    Sorry , I think the desire for security ( engendered by the Media pardy imagery of Italian and American slaughter , reinforced more recently by Manaus mismanagement )runs very deep with the Covid Cultists ( those who display the Teddy Bear Talisman) and the next chapter will be Climate Cultism , all via the Great Reset.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:27am
  - rockape
    
    Sadly Simon I think you are wrong. Even the National party caucus are sheep. The best we can hope for is a National government in 2026 to manage Labours policies a bit better. Then, when the voters want new policies they will vote Labour back in. A disillusioned National voter.
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:05am
- nathie
  
  Why is Robertson and Labour ‘outsourcing’ solutions to the housing crisis to the Reserve Bank (when Robertson asked Orr yesterday to take rising house prices into account for policy settings)?
  
  Surely Roberston and Labour’s number one priority is to fix the supply problem, to ensure more houses can be built?
  
  Otherwise surely deflecting to Orr is basically Roberston and Labour continuing to pretty much do nothing?
  
  Another thing, during the term of the Key/English government, when Labour spent 9 long years in Opposition doing basically nothing constructive (like supporting RMA reforms or working on realistic housing policy themselves, not hyperbole) they made loud calls that there was a ‘housing crisis’.
  
  I think it is fair to say in hindsight, back then we had a ‘housing problem’.
  
  Because now we have a real crisis – that of $1M ‘average’ homes, Megan Woods proudly gloating about housing 12 families, $1,000/week rentals being charged to students in Wellington (in the news yesterday) and today we read that Auckland is the world’s 4 least affordable city to buy a house … now this is a Crisis!
  
  But Labour dither and mostly look the other way. How can Jacinda Ardern look in the mirror each morning as she plans her school visits and practices her smiling for the camera appearances later that day when housing is NZ’s number 1 problem across all of society (from the homeless in motels, to the poor living in garages and families occupying one bedroom, to the people paying skyrocketing rentals and mortgages)?
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:08am
  - Maxx
    
    It’s not outsourcing – it’s distraction so the people believe that Robbo and Cinda are fixing the crisis that National created (sarcasm on that last part in case it’s not obvious).
    
    Orr is in no different position to how he was previously. His key mandate of stability in the financial markets comes above all else, and rampant house price growth is not only unsustainable likely leading to crash with negative growth (which is worse as it will crash the employment market, his other mandate), but will also push the CPI to levels outside of the target growth band.
    
    But the MSM get their headlines and the sheeple applaud
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:54am
  - calendar girl
    
    Good comment, Nathie at 9:08am. Let’s read more of your observations.
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:26pm
- Saks
  
  What are you saying? The recommendation was for longer and she cut it short?
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:11am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yes, the instructions issued to the police were that Auckland was to be locked down for substantially longer. Jacinda buckled during the Tuesday morning, because the police got memos on the Tuesday afternoon.
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:03pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Green MP still in the spotlight

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/437180/green-mp-ricardo-menendez-march-s-partner-s-visa-application-in-question
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February 26, 2021 8:22am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Imagine how this would have played out, had Menendez-March been a National MP like the hapless Aaron Gilmore.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:30am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Gilmore was an idiot.
    
    March is an idiot waiting for his moment . . .
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:28am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      His Aaron Gilmore moment?
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:24pm
    - Jack5
      
      Paulus G, if you could judge Gilmore an idiot on the basis of a drunken outburst on a night out, we wouldn’t need IQ tests and psychiatrists.
      
      The media lynched Gilmore for a relatively minor social incident.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:36pm
- kowtow
  
  MPs’ are quite rightly in the spotlight.
  
  The latest Media Pardy headlines are all about Hamish Walker , he’s gone , but they still want to blow torch his feet.
  
  As to R M M.
  
  He’s made a big play around his personal circumstnces ,identity , immigration and rights.
  
  How did he get residency in New Zealand . Was it through marriage to March who is/was presumably a resident or citizen in his own right.
  
  If so is RMM divorced such that he has a new partner .
  
  These are personal issues but as RMM has made his own parliamentary career about his own personal back story , why can’t we be let in on the details , the facts .
  
  Not the myth , the myth of the poor , oppressed mesitzo who actually has a rich dad and lived behind high walls in a villa in the nice part of town.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:36am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Might have had something to do with that ‘OIA Request’ lodged by what’s-his-name here on GD last week do you think? 😀
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:36am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Thinking the same.
    Well done to him.
    The question I’d like to know is,
    What was his written response to apply for special exemptions on both applications.
    Therein will lay your answer. And it has to be written down for it to be processed further.
    Before submitting.
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:59pm
- Brian McDonald
  
  I’m just waiting to see if he bursts into tears like other entitled MPs have done when getting the chop. I am not presuming due process will not be followed first to establish the facts.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:12am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    That’s one of the entertaining things about democracy. We get character like Ricard Menendez March, Jami-Lee Ross, etc, who are completely unsuited to political life and the public scrutiny that goes with it. Then we get to laugh as they implode.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:16am
    - cmm
      
      They still get to laugh that the silly people who are bitching are still paying them a thousand bucks a day.
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:02am
- Rich Prick
  
  He told RNZ he and his partner had followed all the correct processes and presented “a really comprehensive package” to Immigration NZ late last year.
  
  Good grief, I hope it was a bit more than a Grindr chat log. But being a Green List MP and gay, that would probably do in these woke times.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:05am
- Maxx
  
  I see Shaw’s logic on the topic is “it doesn’t matter if it’s wrong, Nats did it first”.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:02pm
- curry4me
  
  Maggy Wassilieff: ACT need to make the MP for Tijuana the poster boy for the ‘Green’ party.
  
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  February 26, 2021 3:23pm
Tony Stuart

Remember a year to 18 months ago when Kris Faafoi was considered Labour’s safest pair of hands, and was being lined up for promotion? Guess what, he’s got clay feet, just like the rest of ’em:

The Immigration Minister has known all along about an inconsistency at the border which means critical migrant healthcare workers are split from their families.

But Kris Faafoi is refusing to commit to fixing the problem, saying the Government is not in the business of giving people false hope.

There are hundreds of tales of heartbreak in New Zealand due to the inconsistency – mothers forced apart from their babies.

“We expected that we could bring our family within six months but couldn’t,” Kapiti coast aged care worker Merin Jose told Newshub.

“We are living an incomplete family we are mentally depressed here,” said Honey Abraham, also an aged care worker on Kapiti Coast.

They left their sons in India when they were nine- and 10-month-old babies, expecting to soon be reunited – but it’s now been a year.

“My mum is taking care of my father and my son. She is suffering a lot,” says Jose.

Her father is undergoing treatment for cancer. She held back tears.

Merin and Abraham came to New Zealand before the borders closed. In normal times their families would follow.

“That is one of the issues with having a hard border closure. I know it’s difficult, we have sympathy for them,” said Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi.

He acknowledged that New Zealand needs them.

“Yes, and there are plenty of others that are trying to get into the country that are critical.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/immigration-minister-knew-all-along-about-border-inconsistency-splitting-migrant-workers-from-families.html

That’s right Kris, there are indeed “plenty of others” who want to get into New Zealand; people like Ru Paul and his fellow drag queens, The Wiggles, and Green MP Ricardo Menendez-March and his partner.

But there are also people who can’t get in, like Trev Ponting, the brain cancer sufferer who had to go through the media, and many like him, and like these women, who have been slaving away in the health system, whilst separated from their children.

You’ve known about this for nearly a year Kris, and nothing’s been done. That is quite simply not good enough. Be kind, and either sort this out now, or hand in your warrant.
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February 26, 2021 8:23am
- Bobba Fret
  
  National have so much ammunition against these clowns but cant seem to score any points against them. In Parliament, question time is a waste of time as Mallard just closes them down, the media are in the governments pocket as they get their funding from this government. I am really frustrated that there seems to be nothing that can be done. It is only blogs like this with a small amount of the population that seem to be worried about all the failures.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:30am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    To her credit, Tova O’Brien from Newshub has broken this story.
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:43am
    - lifesgood
      
      I never thought I’d hear “to her credit” and “Tova O’Brien” in the same sentence.
      
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      February 26, 2021 9:46am
      - Maxx
        
        To be fair I hear Labour and Greens supporting complaining about her just as much. She’s either really shit, or balanced shit.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:30pm
    - Bobba Fret
      
      She’s usually too busy trying to bag National or Simon Bridges.
      
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      February 26, 2021 1:05pm
  - Simon
    
    “National have so much ammunition against these clowns but cant seem to score any points against them”
    
    Lol National are part of the problem
    
    National are in the covid cult as well. It’s hard when you are in a cult to oppose the cult leadership
    
    National could be the first to own up to the horrible mistake made during 2020, the year of the sheep. But will repeat they are part of the problem.
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:50am
  - igm
    
    Media do not get funding from government per se’, it is our taxes.
    Very few of the current government have actually ever paid any taxation as it has been an extension of either taxpayers’/ratepayers’ money . . . they are unemployable wokes, neither use nor ornament.
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:52am
  - kloyd0306
    
    Ammunition is plentiful but then Mark Mitchell was all for keeping Auckland at level 3.
    
    National is the opposition in name only.
    
    Action-wise, they are nowhere to be seen.
    
    Bring back Simon.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:32am
    - curry4me
      
      kloyd306: ACT are the opposition now. National are Labour lite. They have been for decades.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:27pm
  - PeeJay
    
    I’m not a huge fan of Trump but he showed the way to get around the mainstream media (ok he had fox but still had most of the media against him). Why National haven’t employed the best in the business in relation to social media is beyond me – it’s clearly an are they are doing crap on and need to improve. There is so much scope for a smart, organised opposition to become ‘on trend’. Mallard turning questions into a sham? Disrupt it – refuse to attend, throw crap, get the media team to do meme’s etc. Stop being nice. Stop playing by the rules. The media hates you – ignore the buggers! Make noises about media bias – make noises about things having to change, make noises about speakers being truly independent. Throw enough shit that some of it bloody sticks. National have to realise they have to go around the media – if they continue to play like they are, only a massive economic downturn is likely to change the perception of the peoples princess. Just now, other than Bridges (Collins – wtf?), what have they really done? Hoping the media will give them a break is nuts!
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:13am
    - Unity
      
      I attended a local National Party meeting today which was very enlightening. Contrary to what we are thinking about their ‘silence’, they are apparently working very hard behind the scenes. Every day they hand out Press releases but they are not taken up. The media are the big problem courtesy of the millions Labour have given them. They need to find a way to get their messages out there.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:00pm
      - curry4me
        
        Unity: They should put them on Rumble, BitChute etc, and post the odd one here.
        
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        February 26, 2021 3:29pm
      - PeeJay
        
        I’ve no doubt that the hard work is going in but there are significant issues in the party and going about things in a ‘business as usual’ approach is not going to work. I think there are personnel issues in both parliament (leakers & lightweights) and back of house. Hoping the shine goes of cindy is not a plan- all to bloody similar to the john key years and how the labour party just thought they had to wait for his popularity to wane. The media are now part of the labour party – lets not pretend otherwise. Media releases are not going to work. They need to go around them.
        
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        February 26, 2021 4:11pm
      - Mike
        
        I’m interested re the press releases. I can see that of the 45 so far this week, National has issued 12. I seriously dobt that any political party can come up with mire than 3 or 4 issues in a week that would make good news stories.
        
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        February 26, 2021 4:13pm
- Paulus
  
  Faa foi will only do what She says – so forget any sympathy unless it will cost votes.
  Actually he is actually the greatest disappointment of this lot.
  I thought better of him.
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:38pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

Class action Covid lawsuit, main submissions are worth a read:

https://principia-scientific.com/lawyers-promise-nurember-trials-against-all-behind-covid-scam/
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February 26, 2021 8:26am
- krazykiwi
  
  Would be easy to dismiss an initiative like this, but with Reiner Fuellmich leading the charge it could very interesting. His years of work behind the Volkswagen emissions scam were rewarded.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:41am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Nice conspiracy theory you have there. It’s be a shame if it collided with reality.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:47am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Can we just take it for granted that you will post several inane comments like this on any given matter, comments that add nothing due to their absence of content, and free up all of our time?
    
    Conspiracies never happen, we get it.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:53am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You are entitled to believe that Covid is ‘a diversionary tactic by corporate and political “elites” in order to shift market share and wealth from small and medium enterprises to global platforms such as Amazon, Google, Uber, etc.’
      I am entitled to chuckle derisively at your beliefs.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:06pm
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        That is your right, but I’ll do the same to you. I’ll point out, though, that this is precisely what has occurred, albeit only one element of a larger whole. You neglect to mention the huge increase in State control, given the widespread surrendering of civil liberties. Have or have not these and other huge companies’ share prices gone through the roof, while many small-to-medium sized businesses the world over have folded as a direct result of government edicts? And have or have not governments taken away personal liberties that we took for granted a year ago? The answer to both questions is yes they have. Now, you can believe in coincidences if it helps you sleep at night, but you’ve got to live in the same dystopia that I do.
        
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        February 26, 2021 12:46pm
      - Tall Man
        
        As we laugh at your lack of them.
        
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        February 26, 2021 1:35pm
- SB2
  
  Kiwi in Paris, the author Jean-Michel Grau like you appears to suffer a permanent severe head cold.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:34am
Gravelroad

In this report today from the US about Lady Gaga’s dog walker being shot and two of her dogs stolen, the attending police are described as “law enforcement”.
Here in NZ, the police are increasingly being used as social workers and guidance counsellors.
We have laws to protect society from criminals but do we actually have any law enforcement any more?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/300239685/lady-gagas-dog-walker-shot-in-la-two-of-her-french-bulldogs-stolen
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February 26, 2021 8:26am
- doggone7
  
  All over the country on Monday morning courts will open and people will appear. Clients of laws being enforced I suppose from across the range of human activity.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:30am
  - kowtow
    
    And disappear.
    
    ‘A convicted murderer previously jailed for killing a paedophile is on the run.’
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-national/convicted-murderer-who-bashed-man-death-run-police
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:29am
    - SB2
      
      kowtow, let’s see if he exceeds George Wilder’s 65 days,
      
      https://nzhistory.govt.nz/george-wilder-escapes-from-new-plymouth-jail
      
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      February 26, 2021 11:39am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Wilder even helped Plod when they were searching for himself LOL
        
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        February 26, 2021 5:59pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  When you drive on a road with only one other car on it, and you are driving at 105kph, and, the only other car on the road is a police car; then and only then will you understand about law enforcement.
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:40am
- Ehlana
  
  I heard on tv that Lady Gaga is offering a reward … for the return of her dogs, not for information leading to the arrest of the person who shot a dog walker four times.
  I’ve no doubt she loves her dogs, but this seems wrong.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:05am
  - coge
    
    Honey attracts bees, not vinegar. The more benign suggestion of returning the dogs is more likely to happen. And could also help assist in identifying the shooter.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:22am
I remember when

‘Straight shooting but not to Coster’s face.’
TV3.
So we have finally reached the bottom of the common sense barrel, with it being suggested that Simon Bridges should have called Coster a ‘wokester’ to his face.
From the accompanying items it seemed that Coster was well aware of Simon’s position.
Then followed the Judith’s leadership is being put under pressure arguments and that she will soon be gone,
Unfortunately, no suggestion that this type of reporting should follow the same path and also be gone.
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February 26, 2021 8:28am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Labour promote themselves by attempting to destroy others. Money does much to silence those they want de-platformed and Bridges was brutally treated last election season.
  Now it’s Judith’s turn. The innuendo and rumours are already apparent with hints of internal dissension. If only we had the PM’s breakfast conversations on record we could muck rake too but the media would never publish it.
  
  These $50M payment to the media have to be considered as bribery and implicit corruption. How are they being funded? What Vote Item do they come under or they authorised by the captain?
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:01am
  - igm
    
    By the sound of things, the so-called captain must be subbing all relevant copy.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:18am
lastmanstanding

I gotta laugh at the feminist and trans communities going hammer and tongs are each other. Nothing like watching the Left rip into itself. The Left does it so well.
This and the general Wokeness of the Left will eventually piss off everyone else and the Left will find itself marooned in its own Wokeness arguing with itself.

Wonderful.
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February 26, 2021 8:29am
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  The inherent contradictions of the progressive liberal left will inevitably result in its self-destruction. But the damage caused before it gets there will be widespread.
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:15am
KevO'Brien

I have already expressed concern about our economic management: here is an outsider’s view. Rabobank is one of the world’s largest and is active here in NZ among the rural sector. This is a bit full of econospeak but it is serious warning that prices are not under control.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/law-unintended-conse-kiwi-nces
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February 26, 2021 8:37am
- Simon
  
  NZ neolib clown show. RBNZ ordered to give regard to house prices when setting interest rates.
  
  Reactionary neolib tards.
  
  The neolib National/ Labour axis of stupidity stagger from economic fix to another making it worse along the way.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:00am
  - Swifty
    
    You know I’d really like to understand the points you make here, but I just can’t.
    
    “neolibtards, neolib clown show, neolib axis of stupidity…”
    
    When you throw around these labels/slurs without explaining why you’ve reached these conclusions it leaves us readers none the wiser.
    
    Do you think you could do a bit more explaining Simon and a bit less name-calling?
    
    Otherwise many of your comments are just a total waste of time and space.
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:57am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      comments are just a total waste of time and space
      
      C’mon Swifty, this is Kiwiblog after all.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:11pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        and yet, here you are, wasting time and space . . .
        
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        February 26, 2021 5:13pm
- Jack5
  
  Rabobank is a group of 106 Dutch co-operative banks, that in 2006 merged with Rabobank Nederland, but, according to Wikipedia, retain considerable autonomy.
  
  Is is now one of the world’s 30 biggest financial institutions.
  
  New Zealand lost a lot of potential with its financial co-operatives. The savings banks were going to be merged into a big national bank. Apart from Taranaki’s TSB they have gone, with the Auckland chunk of ASB going to Australia, the last part of the iceberg to melt.
  
  Similarly in farm co-operatives. An example is the horticultural growers’ co-operative, Turners and Growers, that after being “privatised”, has become owned by BayWa AG. This German co-operative based firm’s Californian robotics development arm is progressing with introduction of robots to its NZ orchards.
  
  BayWa AG provided a model that might have been used if New Zealand had had an intelligent financial sector. Shares listed for trading are limited to about 40 per cent. Control of the company is structured to give co-operatives that are shareholders a strong hand in governance. BayWa has become one of Europe’s biggest companies and is active in 40 countries. It has preserved its co-operative culture.
  
  It’s ironic that many in New Zealand’s financial sectors and Government saw our agricultural and financial co-operatives as outdated, provincial, and blocks to growth and progress.
  
  Apart from Fonterra and Zespri, foreign co-ops, or in the case of banks, Australian banks, not emerging New Zealand business giants, have been the replacement.
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:38am
  - Jack5
    
    Coverage of robotics development in New Zealand, concentrates, at least in the State media conglomerate, on Auckland University’s “Centre for Automation and Robotic Engineering Science.
    
    But, also, out in taxpayer world:
    
    – BayWa’s T&G Global in Hawke’s Bay has robotics working in its apple orchards.
    
    – In Dunedin, Scott Technology has its robotic systems working in meat works internationally, and whiteware manufacturers in several countries are using its robotic production lines to make cabinets for their goods. Scott is also in the high-tech field of superconductors.
    
    I’ve no financial interest in Scott’s, but it deserves to be better known, so, you can read about it here (and 48 per cent is still not owned by its biggest investor, the Brazilian firm that is the world’s biggest meat processor):
    
    https://www.scottautomation.com/
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:56am
  - rangitoto
    
    SBS is still around.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:36pm
    - Jack5
      
      SBS was originally a building society, not a savings bank.
      
      All the building societies I knew of have gone. That reflects a society moving from a culture of saving and deferred gratification to spend-now and spend-in-advance consumerism; and the trend of New Zealanders financing their own housing to them borrowing largely from abroad, through banks to fund housing.
      
      Google Southland Building Society and you are taken to SBS the bank, and the Companies Office building societies register doesn’t seem to be working. If there are building societies left, they’re hard to find.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:26pm
Andrei

I like the cut of her jib

(I posted this yesterday but it remained in moderation for many many hours)

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1364719403498164226
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February 26, 2021 8:38am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Turns out she hung the sign outside the office of a woman with a transgender child.
  She’s right in the shit now by the sound of things.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:48am
  - lifesgood
    
    Why is she in the shit? It’s the truth.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:50am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      In the shit because she ‘offended’ a snowflake
      
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      February 26, 2021 6:05pm
  - Andrei
    
    She’s right in the shit now by the sound of things.
    
    That’s the way agitprop works – it is how you end up with boys cleaning up in the girls athletic events
    
    Everyone is bullied into keeping their mouth shut
    
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    February 26, 2021 10:12am
Maggie Pie

Ring a bell ?

DING DING DING DING 😀

https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1364820988890738688
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February 26, 2021 8:41am
- Don Beckett
  
  Had to laugh at this twitter post……..
  “BREAKING: April Fools Day has been cancelled this year because no prank can top the joke running this country right now…” 😆
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:10am
Andrei

We live in a time when satire has become redundant
Back at school | Pandemic continues, but life goes on at Wenatchee and Eastmont highs
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February 26, 2021 8:44am
- greybeard
  
  I would like to have seen the drummer in that band.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:13am
  - Tall Man
    
    There can be only one ….
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZz9TSjZCM
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKCikWTtlW0
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:09pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Excellent
      
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      February 26, 2021 6:11pm
KevO'Brien

Coming to an orchard near you?
I don’t like to encourage automation and labour substitution but harvesting has never been attractive work, short term and minimal pay. Now a fruit pricker that you can hire for the job on demand and it works night and day checking each item before selection.
https://www.tevel-tech.com/

(That the manufacturer’s promo but I cannot readily locate the more detailed one which originally caught my attention.)
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February 26, 2021 8:49am
I remember when

Megan Woods: QT:
‘Smearing, mocking and deriding is not going to……’
So, what else has changed since 2017.
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February 26, 2021 9:13am
Captain Mainwaring

Apparently the engineers have determined that the Auckland Harbour bridge can’t be further strengthened as the structure can’t take the weight of any additional steel.
Yet they’re still wanking on about attaching that stupid ‘skypath’ to it.
Does the left hand know what the right hand’s doing?
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February 26, 2021 9:18am
- alex Masterley
  
  Captain, I think with that news the skypath is well and truly grounded.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:23am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Good, that’ll save $300m. Problem is Wood will divert it towards the bat crazy LRT schemes.
    
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    February 26, 2021 9:48am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  It’s easy to guess what one of the hands, probably the right, is doing at any given moment.
  
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  February 26, 2021 9:57am
- graham
  
  According to the NZ Herald, some group called Waka Kotahi has said the bridge can’t be strengthened. A waka being a canoe of some type, I presume this is Maritime NZ or maybe the Auckland Harbourmaster?
  
  I wonder what the NZ Transport Agency thinks?
  
  Apparently, the chair of this Waka Kotahi group, Sir Brian Roche, said the agency still needed to determine the form of public transport that would be used on a second harbour crossing, which has been estimated to cost several billion dollars.
  
  As a waka is a canoe of some type, and kotahi means “standing together as one”, I can only presume the second harbour crossing is going to involve some sort of boat? Maybe several of them joined together? A bunch of rafts?
  
  “Several billion dollars” seems to be a bloody expensive boat …
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:28am
  - Jack5
    
    Why has Auckland – and the Government – ploughed so much money into a short underground railway line for Auckland?
    
    Wouldn’t a second bridge a more logical project?
    
    You can bet the second bridge will be loaded on all the country’s taxpayers, not just the third or so in Auckland.
    
    Apart from management sclerosis, the country’s biggest city, like many others in the Western world, is suffering from the declining proportion of its population that is in the rate-paying middle class.
    
    To an outsider, it looks that the biggest growth in Auckland is in the poor suburbs. Not a helluva lot of rates blood to be drained out of them.
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:32am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Waka can mean a canoe, vehicle, conveyance, spirit medium, a box, or a water trough.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:16pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Trough sounds about right.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:39pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Then there is whakawaka.
      
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      February 26, 2021 1:00pm
      - Spring Bank Westie
        
        Sounds like a helicopter.
        
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        February 26, 2021 3:44pm
  - Spring Bank Westie
    
    I think you mean Waka Kotanga?
    
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    February 26, 2021 3:44pm
- Tall Man
  
  You actually need a brain to “know” what both hands are doing. That’s the real problem.
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:00pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Interesting,
  Makes you wonder the integral strength remaining after an Earth quake. Wonder what the guidelines are.
  Regardless,
  One thing for certain is “That Gravity rarely fails”.
  
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  February 26, 2021 4:39pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Can take the weight if no cars, buses and trucks use it. Bicycles only
  
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  February 26, 2021 6:14pm
Maggie Pie

My partner was wondering if last nights AOS standoff in South Auckland and subsequent shooting of the offender, might take a bit of pressure off the wokester Commissioner?
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February 26, 2021 9:25am
- kowtow
  
  Funny thing is how our branch of the Media Pardy loses its shit when a cop shoots a non white in USA .
  
  But when it happens here , not so much .
  
  Question has to be is the Media just stirring up anti American racism .
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:34am
- mikenmildagain
  
  What pressure?
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:41am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Exactly Mike. He is WOKE, so can’t comprehend pressure
    
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    February 26, 2021 6:17pm
- cmm
  
  My thoughts go to the cop who pulled the trigger.
  
  It’s never a good day when you end up shooting someone.
  
  I really doubt the wokester cops are up to dealing with this, though I expect AOS get special psychological selection and training to be able to do this part of their job.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:40am
  - sooty
    
    I think you will find that he died of covid!
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:27pm
Harriet

China news has come out and stated that 5 eyes is an “axis of white supremacy”.

The enemy have all now admitted that they are both inside and outside of the ‘west’ and want to change it.

God, Guns and Trump says you don’t! 😎
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February 26, 2021 9:30am
oldfella

How the mighty have fallen. Andrew Cuomo, hero of the left for his handling of Covid, turns out to be a lying granny serial-killer who tried to cover up his crimes.
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By now, much of the world has seen New York’s Emmy-award winning governor and “COVID-19 hero” Andrew Cuomo come under fire for New York’s growing nursing home scandal. A March 25 directive forcing nursing homes to take in patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 led to the spread of the disease among New York’s most vulnerable population. And then, to cover his tracks, the Governor may have obstructed justice by suppressing life and death data from the Department of Justice; his office underestimated the number of nursing home deaths by up to fifty percent.
https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-impeach-andrew-cuomo-opinion-1570870
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-non-english-speakers-are-taught-this-crazy-english-grammar-rule-you-know-but-have-never-heard-of?utm_source=emailsynd&utm_medium=social

Of course, he’s also under attack over allegations of sexual misconduct. Maybe he should talk to Biden to see how Gropin’ Joe avoided his own sexual scandal that surfaced before the US elections. (Clue: the MSM ignored it.)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-25/former-aide-says-new-york-governor-andrew-cuomo-kissed-her/13191098
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February 26, 2021 9:51am
- curry4me
  
  oldfella: Couldn’t happen to a nicer governor. I wonder if there is an outside of NY going red in 2022. It was in 1980.
  
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  February 26, 2021 3:47pm
- Ed Snack
  
  He’s OK, no charges will ever be laid. He has that magic mark of legal invulnerability, a “D” after his name.
  
  Anyway, the FBI and DOJ are going to far to busy tracking down the 74M Trump supporters to send them for “re-education” to have anytime for a pointless (because no prosecution is possible) exercise like pursuing a Democrat “saint”.
  
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  February 26, 2021 5:32pm
Juliet2554

Biden won’t do a State of the Nation address to congress. Doubt he would make it through the speech to be honest. The media did a good job of hiding his dementia.
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February 26, 2021 9:58am
- RichardX
  
  Juliet2554
  Biden won’t do a State of the Nation address to congress. Doubt he would make it through the speech to be honest. The media did a good job of hiding his dementia.
  
  FEBRUARY 26, 2021 9:58AM
  
  You mean Biden is not giving a State of the Union address in the same year as he made his Inaugural Address?
  
  You mean exactly like Trump who did not give a State of the Union address in 2017?
  
  You mean exactly like Obama who did not give a State of the Union address in 2009?
  
  You mean exactly like George W Bush who did not give a State of the Union address in 2001?
  
  How stupid do you have to be to believe some of these nonsense talking points?
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:54am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Juliet didn’t say this year.
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:12pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Oh, do you think Biden will never give a SOTU?
      
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      February 26, 2021 1:21pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Likely enough, no. By 2022 it will be Harris that gives the speech as there’s little chance that Biden can be propped up for another year, I very much doubt he’ll even be able to read a teleprompter in 12 months.
        
        After all, nobody actually LIKES Biden, he’s an acknowledged corrupt creep by all sides – he’s just the figurehead that was needed for the election, a kind of senile fig leaf if you will.
        
        How many US Presidents have distrusted their Military so much that they insist on profiling their members ? And how come having spent 4 years proclaiming that walls don’t work do the Democrats justify having a razor wire fence in DC to ostensibly protect them. And has any other POTUS (since Truman) ever had a group of his own party insist that he can’t be trusted with the nuclear codes ?
        
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        February 26, 2021 5:38pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Maybe 2022? Then we may see Trump tear the SOTU document in half
      
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      February 26, 2021 6:22pm
- MCos
  
  The last president to give a State of the Union speech in his inauguration year was Jimmy Carter in 1977.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:27pm
  - Batman
    
    Susssh Mcos, you’re ruining Juliet’s carefully repeated talking point!
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:07pm
BAM

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
What’s Bridges problem? why is he such an idiot?
What a stupid insulting thing to say, might be time he moved on or was moved on.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/simon-bridges-defies-judith-collins-order-to-stop-criticising-police-commissioner-because-she-s-not-his-wife.html
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February 26, 2021 10:04am
- PeeJay
  
  I’d personally like to see more of this from Bridges. Right now he seems to be the only nat who has any balls and is refusing to play nice. Would have liked it even more if he’d gone harder at Coster but good to see him showing a bit of a spine yesterday. More please mate! And ignore the media – they are pricks – treat them like it!
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:22am
- Don Beckett
  
  Ease up BAM, you’re sounding very Woke.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:31am
- mikenmildagain
  
  He won’t make much political capital from attacking the police. New Zealanders tend to support the police.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:18pm
  - BAM
    
    He won’t make much political capital from undermining Judith Collins either especially with such cringe-worthy sexist comments.
    “My wife”, for fucks sakes, she’s your boss, you gormless disrespectful clown.
    
    I don’t think I’ve seen a more street dumb politician than Simon Bridges, the guy is too stupid to be in politics and is a total liability for National.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:25pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    He’s not attacking the Police. He’s attacking the operational and political management of the Police.
    
    There’s a very good reason why Police National HQ in Wellington is known by frontline Police as “Bullshit Castle”. I would guess that Bridges has plenty of informants within serving Police, and widespread support as well.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:31pm
    - peterwn
      
      When he was a Crown prosecutor he would have worked closely with officers from Constables to Detective Inspectors and would have a thorough understanding of their culture, attitudes and beliefs.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:40pm
      - MCos
        
        Two or three points there, Pete.
        Bridges was a crown prosecutor around the time of Howard Broad. Times have changed in the police service since then.
        Andrew Costner was also a crown prosecutor for a couple of years too.
        I would also suggest the Police Commissioner currently works closely with all manner of people in the service and thoroughly understands their attitudes, beliefs and the culture of the police.
        He wouldn’t have the job if he didn’t.
        
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        February 26, 2021 4:00pm
    - MCos
      
      The police force isn’t a democracy.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:55pm
      - kowtow
        
        Haven’t you heard , it’s a service , ‘force’ is so yesterday.
        
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        February 26, 2021 2:27pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Bullshit. It might be some fantasy that the police leadership is divorced from reality, but I doubt that any division greater than that typically found between operational units and ‘head office’ in any organisation.
      PS. I have worked in one or two large organisations. “Bullshit Palace” or “Bullshit Castle” is a longstanding term. Just because you hadn’t heard it before doesn’t make it new.
      
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      February 26, 2021 1:25pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I very much doubt there is widespread support for the current commissioner and his proposed policing ideals which is what Simon Bridges is speaking out against.
    
    Maybe I mix with the wrong crowd, you know, lawyers, cops, doctors, dentists, truck drivers, teachers and son but I’ve yet to hear a single favourable comment about coster.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:57pm
    - Batman
      
      The ideal police commissioner is someone who never gets talked about unless it’s a national disaster or emergency.
      
      So far Coster hasn’t made it beyond beltway and partisan chatter.
      
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      February 26, 2021 2:11pm
  - CBR600
    
    Webloody don’t!
    
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    February 26, 2021 3:15pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Good to see our Simon in the firing line again. That means he is worrying the opposition. Simon was gentlemanly before, with the dirty underground lot we have promoting an incompetent gobblement, they are going to get some of their own medicine.
  Why can’t Mr Plod be criticised for not not doing his duty? He’s not a PM’s staffer.
  This assault on the people by paying the media has to be confronted. We are becoming the laughing stock of the world with our Vogue-Cover PM and rush to inflation.
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:19pm
  - MCos
    
    I very much doubt if Labour is the slight bit concerned about yet more ructions in the National Party as they wait to see what happens next.
    Who will side with Judith?
    Who will side with Chris?
    
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    February 26, 2021 4:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

China and India buying up US coal in megalarge quantities.

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/china-s-us-coal-imports-jump-748-in-q4-20-amid-australian-trade-dispute-62766412
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February 26, 2021 10:04am
- rangitoto
  
  We will need a lot of coal here to charge up all the EVs.
  
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  February 26, 2021 10:21am
  - Jack5
    
    But there’ll be nothing to burn it in.
    
    Doesn’t Meremere sit on a coalfield?
    
    Ill-fated Solid Energy was working on getting the coal-seam gas out of it when a collapse in world coal prices led to Solid Energy going belly up and some interesting initiatives disappeared with it.
    
    New Zealand, in addition to likely further big offshore gas resources, has a stack of gas in its coal fields.
    
    Sadly an overseas mining entrepreneur, returned to New Zealand couldn’t get the NZ financial community’s noses out of property investing for a minute or two to realise the benefit of his plan to harness our coal-seam gas.
    
    The blast at Pike River was a sad and nasty illustration of the amount of gas energy available within our coal seams.
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:19am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Absolutely,
      However needs huge investment and foreign technology.
      Remember in the Oil and Gas world, NZ is closed for business.
      An offshore field generally takes 10 years from start to producing and 100’s millions dollars. Even onshore with seismic surveys are hugely expensive however technology goes a bit like Moores law. Bit hard to keep up.
      Southland coal seam gas will require vast amounts of money as well as Government ” protection” in stable government.
      How likely is this too happen now.
      Plenty of coal seam gas in NZ, Just need right expertise,lots of money and a stable government.
      a real loss for NZ’ers.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:32pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      There is a shitload of coal in that area, especially Huntly. But no, we buy shit coal from Indonesia.
      Why? Fucking Greens and Labour, that’s why
      
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      February 26, 2021 6:30pm
NoFax

Not using Ivermectin in treating and preventing Covid-19 is now getting to the point of criminal. Using this drug will get out us of lockdowns and isolations. Mainstream media in the UK is reporting on it now – hopefully we can too https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9297449/Drug-used-treat-lice-scabies-drug-cut-Covid-deaths-75-research-suggests.html
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February 26, 2021 10:06am
Phronesis

This is why the border will never reopen under an Ardern government.

“No vaccine is 100% effective and no population will be totally inoculated. So a big unknown in a vaccinated society is what levels of infection governments will be willing to live with before introducing restrictions, said David Salisbury, who previously chaired the World Health Organization’s Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization.

“It’s a political and societal issue about what is acceptable,” he said.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-success-wont-eliminate-virus-risk-u-k-concludes-11614111151

The level of acceptable deaths under this Government is zero. There is only one way to achieve that.
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February 26, 2021 10:06am
- cmm
  
  The WHO is pushing for a threshold of 75% of the world’s population being vaccinated.
  
  If people under 16 can’t be vaccinated then it is impossible to hit those numbers.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:35am
  - Cinematic
    
    Let’s pause a moment to reflect on how totally absurd a 75% global target for vaccination is. Beyond bonkers.
    
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    February 26, 2021 3:27pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Bit like zero deaths on our roads.
  Soon we wont have main roads but goat tracks.
  
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  February 26, 2021 3:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  And that is just the way Ardern will force it. President of the People’s Republic of Socialist Aotearoa
  
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  February 26, 2021 6:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Date of next Climate Apocalypse:

Despite the passage of time, little has changed–across a half a century of forecasts; the apocalypse is always about 20 years out.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-02/coec-tro022421.php?mc_cid=f8831d8b9b&mc_eid=440f9f5727
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February 26, 2021 10:09am
- Ruahine
  
  It is an interesting thing also that the disaster is always going to happen at rounded off number dates. Like 1990 or 2020 or now 2050. Why is it never 1992 or 2017 or 2049. I am sure that there is an explanation which a large government grant given to a large number of experts could enlighten us all by about 2053.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:07am
  - Batman
    
    Ruahine I’m sure you’re smart enough to grasp that research works in blocks of time and predictions of timelines are done to that?
    
    They’re never actually saying “in 2030 there will be 17.5 large storms and precisely 35,485 people will die as a result”
    
    It’s all a guide. You don’t need to be that cynical about it!
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:33am
    - Ruahine
      
      No matter how one dresses it a turkey is still a turkey.
      
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      February 26, 2021 2:21pm
- Surely Knott
  
  From the Herald Aug 2017, “The disease has spread throughout the park, and in worst-affected areas like Piha, kauri will likely be extinct in five years, Auckland Council’s report says.”
  
  Only 2 years to go until Kauri are completely gone from Piha according to this misleading article. When anyone with eyes, and a car with windows, can tell you that the Waitakere’s are replete with healthy green Kauri and plenty of saplings.
  
  The article was filled with false claims that in no way reflected council’s actual test results.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/waitakere-ranges-may-close-in-last-ditch-effort-to-save-kauri-trees/4T5VW5KK4FXITXQV6YEQARGGME/
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:20pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Same with Covid – same with Climate Change
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:24pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Waste of time. The World is ending in 10 years now, so a Tane Mahuta in 1250 to 2500 years will just not happen.
    Put that to the flakes
    
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    February 26, 2021 6:39pm
- Master Mariner
  
  The thing I find fascinating about climate change is that no one ever mentions the weakening of magnetism and rapid moving of magnetic poles.
  
  If anything that effects rays from hitting the earth its the magnetic field that protects it.If its weakening then obviously more UV rays penetrating the Troposhere, Right?
  
  I really cant make head or tail of CO2 and personally believe its a good thing for greening parts of Sahara.
  Thing about CO2 is if increasing to .0004 % then what has decreased to make up the 100% ?
  Also why did they built castes in Europe , Scotland 7-800 yrs ago as too bloody cold now.
  This is never explained and therefore give no credibility to climate alarmism.
  
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  February 26, 2021 3:45pm
kevn

h clinton praises cindy…in the same league as Merkel clinton says.
What does that tell you?
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February 26, 2021 10:10am
- mikenmildagain
  
  That she is respected internationally?
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:20pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Here’s a pic for you and scorn on carbon taxes on tourists.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/25/new-zealand-to-impose-carbon-taxes-on-tourism/
    
    Sex workers are also mentioned.
    
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    February 26, 2021 1:27pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      That photo of Taxinda has been heavily photo-shopped.
      
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      February 26, 2021 1:51pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Well I never! That makes a mockery of the saying “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear” Looking at the photoshop image, obviously you can. Whoever did it has a definite talent. I’m not that good at it.
        
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        February 26, 2021 2:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  Stupidity is catching?
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:52pm
- Ed Snack
  
  That crooks respect other crooks ?
  
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  February 26, 2021 5:42pm
Waipuk

Doesn’t this make you all warm inside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pcoDyO0Dqo
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February 26, 2021 10:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Pass the bucket – empty it first – it is probably full
  
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  February 26, 2021 6:45pm
oldfella

Imagine if this was Trump’s son. Sex, drugs, banging his dead brother’s widow, while sexting her sister. Fathering a child with a stripper, then claiming the kid wasn’t his? Not to mention all the dodgy financial deals. What a gem this Hunter Biden is. And guess the name of his upcoming memoir? ‘Beautiful Things’.
I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9237397/Hunter-Biden-living-brothers-widow-relationship-sister.html
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February 26, 2021 10:26am
- SB2
  
  oldfellea , not in quite the same league rape allegations former President Trump is now facing,
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/437093/trump-may-soon-have-to-answer-rape-allegations-under-oath
  
  But please do keep us posted on both.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:48am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Have you see E Jean Carrolls interview. Link below. She saw him in the lobby of Bergdorf Goodman. She said she was excited. “Hey you’re that advice lady , he said, come advise me i want to buy a present for a girl. I was enchanted. ” He said ” I know – lingerie! ” So they went up on the escalator. “And their was no one there. There was no one on the whole floor. Frankly.” Interviewer: “that’s going to sound strange to people that no ones in the….” Jean: “Because Bergdorf is the greatest store in the world, with the most amazing service and they’ll get you anything a glass of water…. but it was a moment in time and no one was there. Plus a dressing room door was open, which is very unusual because usually they’re locked and an attendant comes and unlocks it and escorts you in.” “There are 2 or 3 boxes on the counter and a filmy see through body suit and he snatches it up.” And asks her to try it on. There is some back and forth flirting no you try it on she said to trump etc. She then says she thought he would “put it on over his pants”. So they both walk into the dressing room and she says she thinks he’s going to try it on. But then he shuts the door and he pushes her up against the wall and bangs her head. “And then kissed her. It was so shocking. And then I started Laughing” and then he put his shoulder against me and he put my shoulder against the wall. And he pulled down her tights. Well that’s when it turned serious and that’s when it was a fight and then she said there was penetration. etc.
    
    Right so no one. No one . Was on the floor of New York City Bergdorf Goodman’s one of New York’s most prestigious department stores, where the service is phenomenal and they have multiple staff in every department. And no one showed up while they took lingerie off the counter and went into an unlocked dressing room together and he allegedly raped her. And no one on the floor during the event. Nor after the event. And no cameras. And she went into a dressing room to try on a see through body suit with a man and flirting and laughing . It was certainly an unusual story.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNBaRM8sKZU
    
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    February 26, 2021 3:39pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Unlike Biden or Bill Clinton, both of whom have been accused of rape, but have never (and probably will never) face charges or even questioning.
    
    It’s that magic “D” that gives immunity !
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You keep posting on both. You are the best troll on KB, and you have all day – every day
    
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    February 26, 2021 6:47pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    SB2 is fascinated with rape. No wonder he spends so much time at St. Lukes , perving on nublie young muslim women.
    
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    February 26, 2021 7:23pm
Maggie Pie

Takin’ it to Facebook…

https://twitter.com/ScottLoBaido/status/1364735186659901444
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February 26, 2021 10:38am
- Tall Man
  
  Loved this comment Maggie….
  
  “With a generation that was raised on Family Guy and South Park I am really amazed at how sensitive we’ve become and that we feel we need to censor other people. What in the f*** is happening”
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:49pm
Kiwi

A British TV newsman loses it during story on diversity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdgFyXtPDnI
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February 26, 2021 10:40am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  I truly hope more people start reacting negatively to having diversity rammed down their throat everywhere you look.
  
  Gays, lesbians, blacks, brown people, yellow people, greens, etc. don’t bother me unless they start forcing me to pay attention to them. I let them live their life and I want them to let me live mine.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:53pm
- zulumonster
  
  A British comedian, not a politician. Very funny but still with a very good underlying message.
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:38pm
Thought Criminal

Cancel Culture comes for Mx Potato Head
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/a-mister-no-more-mr-potato-head-goes-gender-neutral/G76OXQM5422ZUNZGDAOQOXN7FE/
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February 26, 2021 11:02am
Swifty

Gay UK bloke travelling here reckoned he would not be welcomed in our back-country huts because of the hyper-masculinity of Kiwis and those conducting outdoor pursuits:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/experiences/hiking-holidays/124345549/i-feared-prejudice-at-a-remote-doc-hut-because-im-gay-instead-i-found-a-slice-of-paradise

Now admits he’s wrong.

Also, how boring is this gay stuff getting. Why can’t he just write about his experiences. Or the history of the areas or huts he’s visiting.

I don’t care who you like to roger. In fact I’d rather not know, thank you very much.

Just tell me about the walk and the damn huts!
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February 26, 2021 11:02am
oldfella

Seems our Cindy is a star in every arena. Now it’s Soft Power. Isn’t she amazeballs?
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Australia has entered the top 10 nations with the most effective soft power, according to a leading index in which the United States dropped five points, ceding first place to Germany.
New Zealand was the fastest-rising nation – propelled by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s personal popularity and the nation’s suppression of coronavirus – although it missed out on a top 10 spot, coming in at 16th, in Brand Finance’s Global Soft Power Index.
Soft power is used to describe a country’s “attractive power”, its ability to influence through its reputation, as opposed to hard military power.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/australia-enters-top-10-in-global-rankings-of-soft-power-20210225-p575ll.html
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February 26, 2021 11:05am
Fletch

Rand Paul questions transgender “woman” Rachel Levine who is Biden’s pick to be Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services. He asks whether ‘she’ supports the medical genital mutilation of children and the use of puberty blockers that can change a child’s whole life based on a rash decision they made and where parents weren’t allowed to be involved. Levine refuses to give an answer, repeatedly uttering a prepared phrase akin to the “name, rank and serial number” repetition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAi2_LEAt0o

This is liberals all over. They are aiding in the destruction of Western society, including the most innocent, so they can practice and perpetuate their perversions. After all, if everyone is doing it – if they can get more people involved – then it will be normalized.
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February 26, 2021 11:32am
- Batman
  
  Last I checked, Western society is not based on gender but rather democracy and institutions.
  
  Notably, one of the principles of western society is the right to liberty and freedom, which includes the right not to be told how you must live your life by busybodies like Fletch.
  
  If you wish to create a Christian conservative theocracy outside of western society where you can worry about “perversions”, go right ahead and find somewhere. Or, join Gloriavale.
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:51am
  - Fletch
    
    SO, according to you, one of the tenets of Western society is to let little kids make life altering decisions even before they reach their teens, like deciding their gender and to give them harmful drugs, all without the involvement of their parents? Um, no. That’s why we have parents to guide us. Little kids don’t know what the heck they want or who they are yet.
    It’s idiotic to treat children like little adults as though they are intelligent enough to make these sorts of decisions on their own. They aren’t.
    
    And just look at this guy, who is obviously a guy, and dresses like a woman. Biden wants America to take health advice from such a guy? Really? He obviously has problems. I wouldn’t trust him to prescribe me an aspirin. It’s making the patients the head of the asylum.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:08pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I think gender does form one of the minor bastions of western society with family and “stations” in life and society loosely linked to gender and the roles each plays.
    
    Those are being altered and in many ways not always for the best.
    
    It seems that you have developed a sarcastic streak, must like mikey, with a tendancy to play the man rather than the argument and your comment that a principle of western society is liberty and freedom also applies to Fletch and his right to hold whatever views he desires and even communicate them much to your obvious chagrin.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:24pm
    - Batman
      
      Oh Fletch is welcome to hold those views, it doesn’t make them sensible or relevant.
      
      I’ve always been a bit sarcastic, perhaps I should use the sarc tag more often….
      
      Anyway, your playing the ball comment is a bit of a laugh coming from you, TM. But it’s Friday so live and let live etc.
      
      Only about three hours until beer time…
      
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      February 26, 2021 2:09pm
      - Tall Man
        
        In my defense Batman, I’ve never aspired to be a moderating influence on anyone and I play man and ball as hard as I can if the situation allows it. There’s many a referee that would happily, or otherwise, attest to that.
        
        In my opinion it’s almost negligent to not call a shithead a shithead and while I may be a lot of things, I ain’t negligent 😉
        
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        February 26, 2021 4:58pm
oldfella

Come, on, man, not as though you walked in dressed like a Ru Paul refugee!

“I feared prejudice at a remote DOC hut because I’m gay. Instead, I found a slice of paradise.”
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/experiences/hiking-holidays/124345549/i-feared-prejudice-at-a-remote-doc-hut-because-im-gay-instead-i-found-a-slice-of-paradise

The world is full of victims. And stuffed is working hard to give every one of them their 15 minutes of fame.
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February 26, 2021 11:40am
- Batman
  
  You know, you could just exercise your right to ignore it, given it is in the travel section and hardly categorised as actual news …
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:47am
  - Swifty
    
    Where’s the fun in that?
    
    🙂
    
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    February 26, 2021 11:53am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Good call!
      I sometimes think Stuff exists simply to give Kiwibloggers something to whine about.
      
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      February 26, 2021 12:22pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Something for you to defend Mike. You have opinions, but rarely facts. Anything you read or saw on CNN is more than likely to not be a fact
        
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        February 26, 2021 6:52pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Not really the point BM is it and I’m sure you’re not that obtuse.
    
    He wasn’t commenting purely on the content rather than need to publish it.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:11pm
- Swifty
  
  “Look at me! Look at me! I’m the only gay in this vil-lage!”
  
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  February 26, 2021 11:54am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Out in the back country, looking for a back-door country hut.
    
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    February 26, 2021 12:23pm
- cmm
  
  Last time I was in a DOC hut this one legged Buddhist lesbian hobbled in and we all made jokes at her expense until she pissed off… Yeah right!
  
  FFS this is the 2020s – not the 1950s. Nobody cares any more.
  
  It’s just a way to try add some relevance to what would otherwise have been a very boring and useless story.
  
  Without the gay reference the editor would have binned it, but didn’t want to offend the woke-brigade by cutting a gay story.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:23pm
- Gravelroad
  
  I’ve been in a few back country DoC huts.
  And never have I found that when another tramper arrives wishing to share accommodation do they state as they come through the door: “I’m gay!”
  And even if they did , so what? Why is being gay so special? I meet plenty of people and 99 times out of 100 I wouldn’t know (or care) if they were gay or not.
  This guy in the article wants to get a life.
  Fine, do what you want but don’t judge and generalise that all rural people are ignorant bigots.
  
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  February 26, 2021 4:43pm
SB2

Here Republican Rep Jim Jordan demonstrates just how far Trump and Covid 19 conspiracy theories has penertrated and infected their party,

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1364963842875396096
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February 26, 2021 11:53am
- Juliet2554
  
  no he is telling the truth. Fauci contradicts himself all the time.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:43pm
  - SB2
    
    Examples??
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:40pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Masks are useless (March 2020), now “wear TWO masks to be safer” ?
      
      Fauci’s a clown, and is also one of the people responsible for authorising the US to pay for the Chinese to experiment with “gain of function” in BCV’s at the Wuhan lab. Where, most probably, SARS2 escaped from. The original work (or some original work) was done in US labs, but it was transferred to China (of all places) over fears of the dangers of a modified virus escaping…
      
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      February 26, 2021 5:49pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Mask, 2 masks, no masks. Depending on who is sucking his dick (if he has one)
      
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      February 26, 2021 6:55pm
- Don Beckett
  
  SB2 ‘Blue-pilled’ again – gaslighting works really well on him. He thinks Dr. Fauci never changed his mind, and always told the truth about masks, hydroxchloroquine and totaaly supported Gebrayesus.
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:58pm
  - SB2
    
    But don’t think he advocated Trump’s Bleach treatment?
    
    LOL
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:41pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Blue -pilled.
      
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      February 26, 2021 5:28pm
Maggie Pie

Woke leftard 1ZB host just tells listeners…. “the rich should pay more tax”

As my partner said, “FFS. Where do they find these people?”
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February 26, 2021 12:33pm
- MCos
  
  Hanging round the Ferrari dealerships.
  
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  February 26, 2021 12:51pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Drooling around you mean.
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Nope, they are the tyre kickers. Ferrari buyers do it discretely, in places you would not believe
    
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    February 26, 2021 7:01pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300238241/more-than-40-of-millionaires-paying-tax-rates-lower-than-the-lowest-earners-government-data-reveals
  
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  February 26, 2021 1:27pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Mike – I ripped this lie apart when you put it on here yesterday. Please do not post it again without a reasonable argument why I was wrong (spoiler: I wasn’t).
    
    TLDR from yesterday:
    Imputation credits ARE TAX PAID and should be included.
    Tax Losses should be deductible.
    Capital Gains are simply a valuation of future profits of the business.
    
    This article is utter rubbish.
    
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    February 26, 2021 2:50pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Is that an argument to abolish imputation credits – NZ is a rare outlier.
      Your argument yesterday about tax losses seemed to imply they were a hugely significant component. I don’t know if that’s true.
      Capital gains are realised, untaxed, every day, no matter how you calculated them.
      
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      February 26, 2021 3:42pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        We lead the world with imputation credits. Oz and us and Malta and ……
        
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        February 26, 2021 8:46pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      If they ignore imputation credits, then the Stuff story is not just wrong but maliciously incorrect.
      
      In NZ’s tax system, the intent is that tax is just paid once, which is entirely sensible. If you own a business (say) and manage to find a schema to avoid all company taxes. Then when you take a dividend or similar payment, you pay the full tax rate on that money. If however you pay the full company tax rate, then dividends are accompanied by “imputation” credits so that the individual only pays the difference between what has already been paid and what they themselves should pay.
      
      One major advantage is that there is little point in elaborate tax minimisation schemes unless they can reduce your personal tax liability, and that is still possible in some limited ways, but far less so than it used to be.
      
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      February 26, 2021 5:56pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Mike that’s not the Treasury’s finest piece of work.
    
    I’m surprised they let something that ropey out the door given the topic is always going to be newsworthy.
    
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    February 26, 2021 4:41pm
  - Tall Man
    
    10% of $750,000 is a tad more than 20% of $60,000 and for the record, few people on $60k are net tax payers, at least the few that come through our door anyway.
    
    Ultimately it’s not the percentage that matters, it’s the bucks although as a civil servant you may well be ultra happy with a 3.5% pay rise rather than a simple $10k pa 😉
    
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    February 26, 2021 5:05pm
Nickc2

BEWARE. The Doctor’s opinion in this video clip is more than likely to come to Lil-Olde-New Zealand by way of THE GREAT RESET.

Rand Paul (US Senator) takes Beijing Biden’s Asst Sec (Health) nomination apart. Note: Dr. Rachel Devine is in fact a male and like our Cindy, has a Black Belt in obfuscation.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/02/rand-paul-take-bidens-transgender-health-nominee-apart.html
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February 26, 2021 12:53pm
artemisia

Wellington’s deputy mayor, Sarah Free, is in the sights of the Green Party, with a ‘please explain’ why she voted against a super-massive increase to the cycleway budget. While voting for a massive $45 million increase.

When I read this in the Herald article today heart missed a beat.

“She said ratepayers shouldn’t have to shoulder the cost burdens on Wellington City on their own.”

I immediately pictured a user pays turnstile at each end of the cycleway, unlocked with a couple or three gold coins.

Sadly no. Bet you’all can’t guess who she thinks should pay up.
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February 26, 2021 1:08pm
Maggie Pie

My partners mum has just headed off home.
Called in earlier to join us for a bite to eat.
She was saying how much better it was in her day when men who thought they were women were mental patients.
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February 26, 2021 1:45pm
- kowtow
  
  As opposed to looking like a bad mistake on the Muppet Show.
  
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  February 26, 2021 2:25pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, ordinarily yes you are correct but when I played the Dame in a Panto I had to believe I was a sheila to make it convincing.
  
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  February 26, 2021 4:25pm
Ruahine

Ardern dancing on a pin and obfuscating because she does not want to upset her pals at the Auckland Pride Festival.
Just watch Level3+ come Monday.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/437241/contacts-of-latest-covid-19-case-paying-a-price-for-everyone-pm
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February 26, 2021 2:33pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/iCwOx7FpwO8/

Game Stop 2.0 

GameStop stock SURGES over 100% to reach a peak of $183 dollars as WallStreetBets takes REVENGE on Hedge Funds and trading apps like Robinhood who rigged the game against the little guy. Short Squeeze Round 2! GME to the Moon.
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February 26, 2021 2:39pm
curry4me

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/02/25/joebama-and-pelosi-present-1-9-trillion-donor-bailout-bill-under-auspices-of-covid-relief/

Dem Donor Bailout Bill.

In 2009 the orcs were deployed. Beyond the Wall Street crowd, the SEIU, AFL-CIO, AFSCME, NEA were some of the more visible politically activist beneficiaries. There was a massive hole in the U.S. economy and all the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) funds were specifically targeted to ensure the Blue Team did not suffer.
Winners and losers were selected. Overall Main Street didn’t get a dime.
In 2020, we are seeing the exact same operational execution around COVID-19. This time the crisis is a virus and the planned primary beneficiaries are the Blue Team states and their collapsing and unstable financial mechanisms.
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February 26, 2021 2:40pm
Maggie Pie

Question for all those leftards out there 😀

What’s worse…… Joe dropping bombs on an empty building in Syria, or Trumpy’s nasty tweets?
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February 26, 2021 3:12pm
- Fletch
  
  Yep, Biden just bombed Syria.
  
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-syria-strike/exclusive-u-s-carries-out-airstrike-against-iranian-backed-militia-target-in-syria-officials-idUSKBN2AP33D
  
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  February 26, 2021 4:06pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… Bomba. You gotta love sleepys symbolic act.
  Pleb impresser.
  
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  February 26, 2021 5:14pm
Maggie Pie

And in case you were wondering what prompted HASBRO…..

https://twitter.com/BuckBond4/status/1365071982346309634
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February 26, 2021 3:30pm
70andstilllearning

So who are the real winners and losers with something like this:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/whangarei-district-council-bylaw-bans-summer-freedom-camping-in-some-areas/RDY45BK747K2DPBMWLRKHAFXPM/#:~:text=Peak%20season%20summer%20freedom%20camping,most%20demand%2Dchallenged%20coastal%20hotspots

The Winners
#1 Sherly Mai – it’s going to get a lot of votes for her on the coast come 2022.
#2 The owners of Whangarei supermarket outlets ( like Eric Rush) given that campers will buy their immediate requirements from those places given they can no longer freedom park on the coast.
# The Woke Coastal Elite – they actually hate people season.

So who are the loser?
#1 The motor camps – FC’s don’t like their prices already but will go there at a push if things overloaded nearby. Guess they won’t be around to go there.
#2 Local convenience businesses who are already in the sh*t due to reduced Intl patronage.
#3 Possibly the local Councillors once it’s realised by local business how much they have cost them.

But I guess Stuart Nash has sent out the message.
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February 26, 2021 5:47pm
Fletch

Have your say on Auckland’s 10 Year budget plan.

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/have-your-say/topics-you-can-have-your-say-on/the-10-year-budget-2021-2031-long-term-plan-consultation/Documents/10-year-budget-2021-2031-consultation-document.pdf
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February 26, 2021 5:59pm
Master Mariner

Worthy cause or Green misinformation ?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-unveils-plan-to-save-maui-dolphin/HDMFBMRBKGSMSB6L74QAKSILBY/

http://cetaceanswhalesdolphinsporpoises.weebly.com/facts-about-mauis-dolphin.html
“Maui’s dolphin (Cephalorhynchus hectori maui) is the rarest marine dolphin in the world. It is found off the west coast of New Zealand’s North Island. Before the year 2002 it used to be called the North Island Hector’s dolphin but Dr Alan Baker, after studying skeletal and genetic differences described it as a subspecies of Hector’s dolphin (Cephalorhynchus hectori sp.) and was renamed Maui’s dolphin after the Maori name for the North Island of New Zealand, which is Te Ika a Maui.”

And DNA results,
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10592-012-0347-9

My understanding , they are close to be one of the same unless you DNA sample both. Otherwise you can not differentiate between the 2. If thats the case then hell the hell do you know whether your are watching a Hector or Maui Dolphin.

Incidently the biggest Killer of coastal Dolphins are cats.

Seem only the Greens can tell, Maybe through special lenses not unlike Greta.
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February 26, 2021 6:46pm
Maggie Pie

Thort this handy tip worth sharing with the group.
One of the girls from tennis just txt….’an empty aluminium cigar tube filled with angry wasps makes an inexpensive vibrator.’
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February 26, 2021 7:11pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  A Viz ‘top tip’ from some years ago, I believe.
  
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  February 26, 2021 7:25pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Hi Maggie,
  
  Out with the girls tonight? Enjoy!
  
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  February 26, 2021 7:27pm
- Don Beckett
  
  REPLY:
  What do African elephants use for a vibrator?
  
  An epileptic pygmy.
  
  (So sorry for being racist/sexist/animalist/non-binary/non-wokeist – in fact, just an ordinary Kiwi bloke [maybe I should include blokeist] ) 😆 😆
  
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  February 26, 2021 7:31pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!! I just tweet that to all my followers…so far 604 likes 😛
    
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    February 26, 2021 8:18pm
- Tall Man
  
  i think you should keep a lid on that thought ….
  
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  February 26, 2021 8:34pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Why hasn’t anyone gotten the flu ? answer because they wear their mask. Why are we still having covid? Answer because people are not wearing there mask. Ok what’s wrong with this picture??? Baaa
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February 26, 2021 7:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Covid kills the flu. How about that? There is a cure for influenza?
  
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  February 26, 2021 7:18pm
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  A t-shirt saying “Cindy says don’t relax” would serve a similar purpose as face coverings. If you remember the 80s, the reference will make sense.
  
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