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Happy World Day for Social Justice!
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February 20, 2021 8:07am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Ironic that Social Justice movement is with supposedly idealistic intent is really the biggest threat to western civilisation at the moment with its push towards racist sins of parentage and other elements of repressive totalitarianism
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:53am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Afraid of justice.
    
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    February 20, 2021 8:57am
    - David George
      
      Don’t confuse “social justice” with justice or “political correctness” with actual correctness.
      Justice has two sides, reward and punishment (yin and yang – the nature of reality) social justice is a construct, a lie – it only has one side.
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:52am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      People are only afraid of justice that have done something wrong. Being born to the parents you have in the country they live in is not a crime, so why should we fear justice?
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:52am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yeah, I don’t know what UrbanNeocolonialist is afraid of.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:12am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Really Mike.
      
      Useful idiot… it’s a term applied to those who push this rubbish in hopes they’ll benefit but are disposed of when the cause is won….
      
      Maybe it will be you sacrificed on the altar of ‘ social justice’
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:34am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Social justice is an absolute misnomer. It is working to manufacturing an anti-egalitarian heirarchy of privilege based on parentage. Forcing modern Kulaks and Jews to pay for the sin of existance by funnelling money to people who have not worked and competed to attain well paid jobs and instead. Leveraging political power to extract income from those who have worked their arses off to acheive more. It is thuggish in its methods – threatening and destroying people (economically) with cancelling to enforce compliance – just as has been seen with all sorts of revolutions have employed denunciations and targeted trumped up persecutions in the past. And at it’s foundation it is just a crypto-revolution no different from thousands of others in the past where the less economically successful academics, humanities grads and public servants using their control of public institutions to upend the social order to their personal benefit by white knighting for groups who aren’t successful. It a sham, all revolutionaries are closet aristocrats who just want to put themselves at the top of the power heirarchy without having to work for it, and the vote yourself rich anti-egalitarian changes they seek to make are extremely destructive – disincentivizing the persecuted capable people and encouraging them to leave. See what happened to Spain after they pushed the merchant classes out by trying to steal their wealth using the spanish inquisition – permanent economic decline.
      
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      February 20, 2021 11:48am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Nope, afraid of people like you who have a mistaken belief that “social justice” is even remotely related to justice.
      
      Social Justice is in fact a euphemism for oppression, racism, and ultimately genocide.
      
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      February 20, 2021 12:48pm
    - Bevan
      
      Based on your response to the previous post reads like you think a child should be liable for the actions of their parents.
      
      Do you seriously believe that?
      
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      February 20, 2021 1:09pm
  - pdm
    
    Urban N – not to mention the re writing of History.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:56am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  There is no need to modify the concept of Justice by adding Social onto the front of it. Justice is justice.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:47am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Social Justice is equality of wealth and opportunity. With the wide differences amongst humanity–utterly impossible.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:05pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      Social Justice is … utterly impossible.
      
      So, does that mean we shouldn’t at least try to alleviate the adverse effects of (unregulated) capitalism, in order to get as close as possible to “equality of wealth and opportunity”?
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:14pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        ^^^Commie.
        
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        February 20, 2021 4:14pm
      - alloytoo
        
        So you wish to push the bulk of humanity back into material poverty in order that the lazy can feel better about themselves?
        
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        February 20, 2021 5:51pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

No Hiding It Now! CNN, NBC Paid Anti-Trump Capitol Rioter Handsomely. Now saying he is a paid journalist – bullshit. Tell me now that the Trump supporters were not infiltrated.
https://leadpatriot.com/no-hiding-it-now-court-docs-show-cnn-nbc-paid-anti-trump-capitol-rioter-handsomely/10658/
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February 20, 2021 8:10am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  How many of the over 200 rioters arrested so far do you imagine would be ‘infiltrators’?
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    200?Come on Mike. Too early for lies
    
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    February 20, 2021 8:41am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Btw Mike, if a person uses many pseudonyms, does that mean they can uptick themselves? Looks suspicious to me
      
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      February 20, 2021 8:45am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        How can any Kiwiblog reader be sure that, apart from Mike and Mikenmildagain, I am not also Steve Otto?
        
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        February 20, 2021 8:59am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Different writing styles.
        Steve doesn’t do flyby pettiness.
        
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        February 20, 2021 9:45am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        That’s a bit petty, Maggy.
        
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        February 20, 2021 9:50am
      - marcw
        
        QED
        
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        February 20, 2021 10:03am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        You are not Steve Otto, but you could well be stupid boy 2, not sure
        
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        February 20, 2021 9:54am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      230 identified here. Tellme which ones are ‘infiltrators’?
      https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:00am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Trump supporters do not dress, act, or behave like them
        
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        February 20, 2021 9:56am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        What, you really think none of those 230 are Trump supporters?
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:12am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        There were a few Trump rednecks that just went along to have a punchup with Antifa and BLM
        
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        February 20, 2021 1:34pm
  - Homas
    
    Here’s a question: has anyone ever batted zero for two in their own kangaroo court before? I’m guessing it’s a record.
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:03am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Yes you’re correct. Trump the most innocent POTUS ever.
      
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      February 20, 2021 8:28pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, given the complicity of the prosecuting authority in the infiltration, I would expect very few because those people would simply be ignored. To arrest them would bring them to peoples notice, and that is exactly what is not wanted.
    
    Trouble is that Sullivan, the Antifa activist and organiser who was at the forefront of the invasion was all too prominent in the video coverage. So he was arrested – then released without bail unlike almost every other arrestee.
    
    Hey mike, still think that the police officer was “bludgeoned to death a fire extinguisher” as was breathlessly reported for weeks and even quoted in the fake impeachment ? Another lie, made up and propagated by the disinformation industry known as the mainstream media.
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:53pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Interesting. There will always be individual activists who do this sort of thing. The bigger question is was it orchestrated by a supposedly reputable group? His payoffs would only suggest that if they here agreed/offered before he helped amp up the disorder.
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Democrats knew, and refused Trump’s offer of 15000 National Guard troops on two occasions before Jan 6th. Pelosi knew.
    
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    February 20, 2021 8:37am
  - mandk
    
    Without a doubt it was orchestrated by supposedly reputable groups.
    
    The culpable parties are the media organisations that edited out the “peaceful and patriotic” parts of President Trump’s speech.
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:14pm
- Greg Ettridge
  
  Steve the ABC in Australia paid this pimp, it would be no surprise if NZ media are not involved, just much harder to expose as they have been bribed from both sides.
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:23am
  - pdm
    
    Diversifying Jacinda’s $50million hand out maybe.
    
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    February 20, 2021 8:29am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So connections to Jaspinda? She is the throwing money at the media
    
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    February 20, 2021 8:39am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      the one*
      
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      February 20, 2021 8:46am
- Unity
  
  Gosh the media must be doing a bit of a freeze now that they can’t print their daily fake news on Trump.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:53am
  - fernglas
    
    Who?
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:18am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The Media
      
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      February 20, 2021 1:40pm
  - artemisia
    
    Might not be fake news or even fake opinion but the headline on Peter Cullen’s item in Stuff today certainly looks gratuitous.
    
    Trump acquitted but his divisive approach continues to play out in workplaces
    
    I don’t suppose the author wrote the headline, but his article says carefully and noncommittedly perhaps New Zealand has been affected in a limited way. Doesn’t say how though, and perhaps that limited impact of the US presidency is just click bait. And actually there is plenty of division going on locally these days.
    
    Looking at you Stuff.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/300231417/trump-acquitted-but-his-divisive-approach-continues-to-play-out-in-workplaces
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:20am
- oldfella
  
  Steve, Chris Trotter has a word of caution for those (and there are plenty on KB) ready to write off the Don.
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  Those observers around the world celebrating the political demise of Donald Trump would do well to contemplate the extraordinary contingencies of history. That so many Americans still believe in his star bears witness to the enduring power of the last-possible-saviour myth.
  Nor should Trump’s opponents assume that the events of the past twelve months have discredited Trump. Hard though it may be to accept, the former President’s red-capped followers read these events through a radically different lens. What they believe they saw was their hero ambushed by a global pandemic cooked up by America’s enemies abroad, and then robbed of his presidency by the corrupt machinations of America’s enemies within.
  If Americans are not to elect their own dictator to power in 2024, then Joe Biden and his Democrats will have to do what the German Left so tragically failed to do in 1932. They will have to give America a medicine that works – and a strength that does not fail.
  http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2021/02/strength-that-does-not-fail.html
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:22am
  - kowtow
    
    That article shows what a total knob head Trotter is.
    
    He says Hitler ‘s success rose out of the Great Depression , only partly true . How can he ignore WWI , the reparations , humiliations of the treaty . The Bolshevik Revolution and the fact that both the Commos and the Nazis were not an expression of opposite ideologies ( he pits the Nazis as fascist) when in fact both those movements were ideologies of the left . It was one far left org beating the other for the soul of the German working classes that brought Hitler to power.
    
    And the real message that dissembler Trotter is voicing is to ludicrously put Trump on the same platform as Hitler , what unadulterated tosh.
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:30pm
    - Justitia
      
      I agree kowtow. Trotter is a shallow, blowhard socialist whose columns often seem to have been penned from the bottom of a whiskey bottle. Nazism and Communism were fruits from the same socialist tree, the only distinction in the 1930s being one was radically ethno-nationalist while the other was internationalist in outlook.
      
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      February 20, 2021 1:20pm
      - Justitia
        
        The Nazis even had a term for “team of five million”. It was Volksgemeinschaft, “the people’s community”. Any criticism or questioning of the government was a criminal act.
        
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        February 20, 2021 2:34pm
  - Fletch
    
    While he compares Trump to Hitler???
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:44pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Biden and the Democrats are far closer to Hitler than Trump ever was or even pretended to be. The Capitol protest was simply the Democrats version of the Reichstag Fire incident and the impeachment was supposed to be cumulation. But like Goebbels, they failed to convict those they wanted to.
      
      Did you know that 3 people were accused of setting the Reichstag fire ? One was the poor Danish halfwit who actually did (at the instigation of Goebbels) and two members of the Comintern. The trial convicted (and executed) the Danish fellow, but not the two communists – the evidence just did not support their involvement. Unfortunately for those two fellows though, they were purged by Stalin about 3 years later and were presumably executed as they just disappeared after being recalled to the USSR.
      
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      February 20, 2021 1:01pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        The Reichstag fire was set by one communist acting alone, but became a pretext for the Nazis to suspend civil liberties. As such, many have believed subsequently that the fire was arranged by the Nazis, but this does not appear to be true.
        
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        February 20, 2021 3:16pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        A near blind, mentally handicapped Dutchman – very convenient.
        
        What Really Caused the Reichstag Fire
        https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/154429
        
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        February 20, 2021 8:53pm
    - Justitia
      
      @Fletch: Trotter is seen as irrelevant by today’s Leftists whose focus is identity politics, not the old shibboleths of class war. So proclaiming Trump is Hitler reborn is one way he tries to regain relevance. Pathetic.
      
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      February 20, 2021 1:24pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Trotter has severe TDS
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:43pm
- Liberty
  
  Reminds me of the 1981 Minto riots.
  How many rioters Were there to support the suppressed blacks in South Africa..
  There would have been a few not many.
  Most would have been there to stick it to Muldoon.
  A once in a lifetime opportunity.
  Knowing full well. The riots being organised by the left. The judges would be kind.
  
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  February 20, 2021 1:50pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Bollocks! While it’s true there were some of what we now call activists at the centre of the various anti Tour groups, the vast majority of protesters marched because they cared about the cause.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:53pm
    - Liberty
      
      Their comrades marched to save Manapouri.
      And there grandkids are “warmist” and walk in the shadow of Dear Leader.
      The left just love chasing windmills.
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:39pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    And btw, the judges in 1981-82 were a far cry from the judges of today.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:54pm
    - Liberty
      
      True there was tinge of poetic license in the original post.
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:47pm
igm

More vomit inducing rhetoric from taxpayer-funded “Stuff”.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300235116/blimmin-exciting-lost-toy-bunny-reunited-with-his-family
When is this apology for a media provider going to be consigned to the gutter where they belong?
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February 20, 2021 8:16am
- mikenmildagain
  
  When you and everyone else stop reading it? Judging by the number of times Kiwibloggers complain about Stuff stories, its readership numbers must be quite healthy.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wow! Hundreds of future votes for Jaspinda
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:33am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hayden Donnell explained on RNZ a few nights ago he would write lower quality content for the NZ Herald because folks clicked on the material.
  He justified serving up this crap content because it seemed to be what people wanted.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/lately/audio/2018784043/midweek-mediawatch
  (from about 8.30 min in)
  
  Seems he has realised that for a media company to survive in the long-term, their journalists need to build a trusted bond….. might be a bit too late for most of NZ’s sycophants.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:35am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    And what passes for television these days has long since given up any pretence at quality, balance or rigour.
    
    First dates, bachelor (and -ette), MAFS, farmer wants a shag, travel guides, border patrol, Police 10/7, the execrable holey-moley, and on it goes. It’s a race to the bottom and I think TV is marginally ahead, with the so-called news outlets fast catching up.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:57am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You missed out Covid propaganda
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:08am
    - curry4me
      
      Loddenthinks: The best two places for ones TV set are TradeMe, or the nearest recycle depot.
      
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      February 20, 2021 12:52pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Good for Netflix and other streaming services though.
        
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        February 20, 2021 8:21pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Oi! You are right, most of it’s crap but Holey Moley is a right laugh. The best part is the American compere.
      
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      February 20, 2021 2:29pm
- surfing
  
  Shame on you for reading stuff.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:39am
  - mandk
    
    It’s worth reading Stuff, but not to receive the message we are supposed to take from the crap it publishes.
    
    Take the story about the mum who received a 90 day notice the day before the law changed. It’s like no one in Labour saw that sort of thing coming.
    
    Just watch the homelessness numbers sky rocketing.
    
    To say Labour are stupid is now a tautology.
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:22pm
- oldfella
  
  Igm: their demise may come sooner than we think because the MSM is not only losing money, they’re losing control of the narrative.
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  With Donald Trump out of office and de-platformed, you’d think mainstream media gatekeepers would be happy. You’d think wrong.
  Though the media-Big Tech regime is doing its best to silence opponents and seize control of the high ground, the news from within is grim. They aren’t happy with how things are going.
  That’s because they know they’re losing. Some are losing audiences and revenues. But more important, they’re losing control of the narrative.
  And since control of the narrative, and the power and self-importance that accompany that control, is the most important thing in their lives, they can’t be happy.
  https://nypost.com/2021/02/18/medias-censorious-gatekeepers-are-mad-because-theyre-losing-power/
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:19am
  - oldfella
    
    Meanwhile closer to home, over at the Daily Blog, Chris Trotter is predicting the demise of RNZ. Please, Chris, say it ain’t so?
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    “What we’re witnessing is a work of destruction in progress. Like the proverbial oil tanker, however, a public broadcaster of RNZ’s quality takes a great deal of energy and a surprising amount of time to turn around. There are traditions that have to be denigrated and dispensed with; experienced professionals who have to be eased out; a multitude of distinctive voices that has to be reduced to a single, overpowering chorus. Turns out you can’t wreck a world-renowned radio network overnight – it takes a while.”
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2021/02/19/137083/
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:47am
    - lifesgood
      
      It’s a demise that wouldn’t worry me and I have listened to RNZ most of my life. But this overloading of maori language is getting out of hand. Seriously, how many in their audience can understand it? For the record I live in Auckland, New Zealand, not Tamaki Makaurau, Aotearoa. I have stopped listening to RNZ…it’s a shame because it really did use to be good.
      
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      February 20, 2021 2:33pm
  - curry4me
    
    oldfella: They’re also up against governments who rightly assert that they make the rules; not geeks from Silicon Valley. And many citizens are moving to alt-tech.
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:54pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Why Pelosi hates America.
https://trendingpolitics.com/fbi-releases-docs-in-heat-of-capitol-riot-that-show-pelosis-communist-roots-run-deep-knab/?
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February 20, 2021 8:18am
- Inandout
  
  Steve, Nancy has done very well out politics, as many wealthy socialists have found. She is the archetypical politician, a lying, deceptive and self serving person.
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:37am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    We are lucky here, the least corrupt . . . oh, bugger . . .
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You do not become a multi millionaire on her salary. Crooked as the Bidens
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:10am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      But you might become a multi-millionaire by marrying a successful investor:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Pelosi
      Or by having a rich Daddy:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:14am
      - Homas
        
        You missed the one where daddy is VP.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:37am
      - Gravelroad
        
        Yikes, fancy Nancy having an entitled, supremacist, rabid dog capitalist for a father.
        No wonder she (allegedly) gets drunk a lot.
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:00pm
- tf78
  
  Steve, I think her husband or his family are part of the ‘mob’. AOC will get rid of her very soon.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So she is not corrupt then?
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:45pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    AOC will get rid of her very soon.
    
    Oh, dear. This is too sad.
    
    AOC is a junior, 31-year-old congresswoman — since 3 January 2019.
    
    She will be getting rid of no-one, least of all Nancy, anytime soon.
    
    Kiwibloggers really do need to rein in their O-CDS.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:45pm
- Fletch
  
  The thing is, Mitch McConnell is just as bad. Financially tied up with the Chinese govt in the 90s through a shipbuilding company via his Chinese wife. He daren’t criticize the Chinese
  
  “This is [the Chinese] strategy. They’ve done it in Australia, New Zealand… They seek out political elites and make commercial deal”
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scRRA7YBPL0
  
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  February 20, 2021 12:27pm
  - curry4me
    
    Fletch: That’s why it’s sometimes called the Uniparty. Also the [bi-partisan] Swamp.
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:59pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    McConnell is a RINO
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:47pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Oh dear.
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden may try to bypass the second amendment.
https://redrightdaily.com/biden-gun-control-executive-action/
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February 20, 2021 8:22am
- Steve Todd
  
  There’s a big difference between bypassing Congress and bypassing the Constitution, Steve.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:29pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Looks like he may try to bypass the Constitution to me. He is corrupt to the core
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:47pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You might need an eye test.
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:18pm
I remember when

Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust announced last week it would be using more ‘gender-inclusive language’ in its maternity services.
This means using terms like ‘chest-feeding’, ‘human milk’ and ‘birthing parent’.
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February 20, 2021 8:26am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Birthing parent fucker does not really have the same gravitas when spat out from the local mob member . . .
  
  ‘get yer chest feeders out darlin’ ‘ after 15 pints just not have the same feeling . . .
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:13am
- tf78
  
  Irw – I don’t know what ships are going to do in future.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    They may be transformed into males or gender-neutralised.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/26/ships-she-royal-navy-language-row-female
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:50am
- Inandout
  
  Irw, here is me thinking ‘dropping a sprog’ was kind of demeaning to a woman giving birth, but NHS terms are creepy.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:34am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Last week’s news, Reply! You’ve got to keep achest of things.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And for goodness sake, don’t cycle 3-achest on the roadway.
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:38am
  - oldfella
    
    If you don’t keep achest, you’ll look like a real tit.
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:50am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Is Zuckerberg zucked now?
http://2020conservative.com/alert-160-billion-class-action-lawsuit-against-dominion-and-mark-zuckerberg-they-are-done/?
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February 20, 2021 8:26am
- curry4me
  
  Steve Otto(North Shore) There’s no reason lawfare can’t work for the good guys. I hope it does in this case.
  
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  February 20, 2021 1:02pm
Happychappy

I see Jacinda Ardern will again be using another Tragedy later this month to gather more popularity with her attendance at the Tenth Anniversary of the ChristChurch Earthquake.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/02/christchurch-earthquake-10-year-memorial-service-to-be-livestreamed.html
Any bets that she will remind ChristChurch that a Labour Party in Government at that time would have done it different and those still fighting for a better outcome on their insurance would have had a better result with her as Prime Minister.
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February 20, 2021 8:30am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Are you saying the PM should not attend commemorations? I can imagine what people would say if she skipped Anzac Day, for example.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:06am
  - Nickc2
    
    She’s cancelled ANZAC days, two in a row. Will she cancel this one? Probably.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:54am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      That’s odd, I can clearly recall the last two Anzac Days? Did you miss them?
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:15am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Oh that’s right..
        you had to stand at your letterbox last year….
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/415104/anzac-day-2020-recap-stand-at-dawn
        
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        February 20, 2021 10:48am
      - SB2
        
        With loads of people commerating standing out on their driveway at dawn and decorating their windows and properties with Poppies and Lest we Forget and other paraphernalia.
        
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        February 20, 2021 10:56am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Remember it well, Maggy. a memorable occasion.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:14am
  - MCos
    
    Mr Happychappy is using the anniversary of another tragedy to put the boot into the PM.
    If she’s there, put the boot in.
    If she’s not there, as with the 75th anniversary of Auschwitz death camp liberation, put the boot in.
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:09am
    - oldfella
      
      MCos: how do you know happchappy self-identifies as a male? Calling him Mr without checking his preferred pronouns is hateful. Get with the programme.
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:25am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        ‘Chap’. The clue is in the name. You know, like ‘fella’
        
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        February 20, 2021 10:59am
      - MCos
        
        Whatever
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:09am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        And can we be sure you are an oldfella?
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:14am
      - oldfella
        
        Exactly, Mike. How do you know I’m not transitioning and was formerly ‘old felless’ (to borrow from Billy T) before becoming ‘old fella’? And what if I want to revert someday?
        Just be careful throwing around possible hurtful pronouns. I think we should just refer to each other as Comrade. There, problem solved.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:29am
      - Don Beckett
        
        He could be a Slap Happy Chappy with a Crap Happy Pappy ? 😉
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:39am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        But oddfella, you are meant to attach a pronoun to your name…
        
        https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/our-work/diversity-and-inclusion/pronoun-use-in-email-signatures/
        
        maggy W. (gynoecious)
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:00pm
      - oldfella
        
        Maggie W, I’m more an ‘oldfella’, than an ‘oddfella’, but I’m okay.
        I self-identify as ‘a big peppermint that lasts all day’.
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:38pm
- oldfella
  
  happychappy: Glorious leader doesn’t do ‘cynical’. She’s the queen of ‘kind’ don’tcha know?
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:22am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I thought the Muslim community weren’t particularly interested in commemorative events. Surely Jacinda is not imposing her personal preferences on them?
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:03am
  - MCos
    
    Talking about the earthquake
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:19pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Oops! So easy to mistake ….
      
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      February 20, 2021 2:57pm
- curry4me
  
  Happychappy: Will she wear a jacket with stylized Richter lines on it? Would an orange onsie, with safety helmet, boots, and a spade? Politicians must always dress appropriately?
  
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  February 20, 2021 1:04pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden regime and fakeN95 masks. This man is not to be trusted.
https://thepatriotnation.net/bidens-big-time-blunder-sent-fake-n95-masks-to-front-line-workers/
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February 20, 2021 8:34am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  Biden himself wouldn’t be involved, he more than likely has to have someone tell how and when to put his socks on.
  The dangerous cabal controlling him will be the culprits.
  The knockoffs are more effective than the originals, made in USA with Chinese packaging.
  It just sums up “the whole real life drama really well”
  Get those masks on sheeples.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:05am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Ooh, a ‘cabal’, huh?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal#Conspiratorial_discourse
    Popular term with anti-Semites.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:08am
    - Greg Ettridge
      
      Silly old fool I am to think they over turned the government.
      But isn’t it great I can still have thoughts along that line, but not for long I fear.
      The difference will be, the left will think what they like, the right will sit in silence, it’s called the Zuckerberg theory of relativity.
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:45am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Biden getting out of bed courtesy of the Master of humour, Gary Larsen.
    
    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/c9/34/79c93465c2a6cbf8e1e678c0fe8d982b.jpg&imgrefurl=https://co.pinterest.com/pin/458874649518154520/&tbnid=5a6Vy1KEhmKlgM&vet=12ahUKEwjKppak4vbuAhW7ErcAHfR-CEUQMygEegQIARAx..i&docid=b3XHmOhsdE81zM&w=1011&h=1197&q=larsen, pants then shoes cartoon&ved=2ahUKEwjKppak4vbuAhW7ErcAHfR-CEUQMygEegQIARAx
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:19am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Sorry team, that link didn’t work, shows a guy getting out of bed looking at a sign that says ‘Pants first then shoes’
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:27am
      - Inandout
        
        PG, you are given a second link which works.
        
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        February 20, 2021 10:37am
    - Steve Todd
      
      The joke’s on you, PG.
      
      If you look at the date of the cartoon (April 7, 1983), it is almost certainly a reference to Reagan.
      
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      February 20, 2021 11:02am
      - Homas
        
        Possibly Steve, but all we really know for sure is that during that epoch Biden was preoccupied working on his plagiarism and lying on his CV.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:36am
- JibberJabber
  
  On the upside, Masks are useless Dr Fauci sez, even our own Dr Bloomfield agrees.
  But if the Govt wants the narrative changed, they get paid well enough to ~~amend their opinion to suit~~ toe the party line.
  Oops, I mean follow the science…
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:11am
  - kowtow
    
    Not that long ago the “science” mandated 14 day lockdowns .
    
    Auckers just had a three day one . Leaves one wondering at how fast and furious the “science” changes ………and how the Media Pardy can’t/won’t question same .
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:34pm
- SB2
  
  Steve Otto(North Shore) this gets the drift of your crazy link,
  
  https://thepatriotnation.net/clintons-fall-guy-just-exposed-the-truth-about-the-dominion-machines-2/
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:58am
- oldfella
  
  Steve, The Babylon Bee has the day’s big US political scandal.
  ++
  Biden Announces Ambitious Goal Of $100 Per Gallon Gas By End Of First 100 Days In Office!
  
  “Listen– all these fossil fuels, they gotta stop! Gotta stop!” Biden said to the Secret Service agent pumping gas into his presidential limo. “We gotta do something about these selfish Americans and one-horse kangaroo herders burning all these fuels without consequences. I know consequences. Just ask Corn Pop and his buddies. When I’m done with ’em, these Americans will never burn a gallon of gas again, Jack!”
  https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-announces-ambitious-goal-of-100-per-gallon-gas-by-end-of-first-100-days-in-office
  
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  February 20, 2021 12:06pm
- Fletch
  
  Remember, too, that U.S health workers didn’t have any N95’s in reserve when covid came along because the Obama Administration didn’t replenish supplies after H1N1. Just another of Obama’s failures.
  
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  February 20, 2021 12:23pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    Remember, too, that the Trump Administration had three years to correct the previous administration’s oversight, but didn’t.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:03pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      That’s different, because – reasons.
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:20pm
    - Fletch
      
      Because nobody looked? They just assumed any responsible govt would replenish them.
      
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      February 20, 2021 3:47pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        No, not good enough, Fletch. In fact, a very weak response, obviously driven by the fact that you felt you just had to come up with something.
        
        The frontline workers would have known of the problem; would have put their concerns up to their bosses, who would have informed the Secretary of HHS, who would/should have raised the matter in meetings of Trump’s Cabinet.
        
        There is nothing I’m aware of to suggest that any of Trump’s five secretaries of HHS ever did that, prior to February 2020. And, of course, we know, a year ago, that Trump, himself, considered the whole thing to be “a hoax”.
        
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        February 20, 2021 6:16pm
JibberJabber

https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2021/02/grant-robertson-attempts-to-gaslight.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AsianInvasion2019+%28Asian+Invasion+2019%29

The gaslighting must immediately cease of anyone daring to go even slightly off the fawning cash for comment that $55m of funding NZ media.

The New Zealand Government will now only agree to appear on “owned” media.

At least Scomo is getting funding for media from alternative sources, Ardern has put them all on the payroll.

Let us see if Mediaworks go all soft cock on this as they did with John Banks and then Sean Plunket, or fight it tooth and nail. If they don’t they might as well shut up shop right now as it shows all their hosts, right down to the munters on Mai FM, that they do not back their talent.
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February 20, 2021 8:39am
- Tony Stuart
  
  David Farrier (not Farrar), emboldened by his apparent ‘success’ against Sean Plunket, now seems determined to take out Peter Williams. Who made Farrier the arbiter of who we choose to listen to? He’s got support from the Spin-off, and they’re even trying to get New Zealand Cricket to dump Williams.
  
  Make no mistake; there’s an attack on free speech underway, tight under our noses.
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:53am
  - nathie
    
    What’s up with Farrier? He’s gone from a mild and amusing reporter to some sort of hostile deplatforming activist “terrorist” (he’s also “taken out” other media commentators that don’t align with HIS way of thinking).
    
    He wrote some bullshit article on his platform a while back that a couple of “leftie” commentators here linked to (to back up their attacks on MagicTalk), but what I interpreted was basically a staffer was totally unprofessional and whinged like hell that she worked in a place that had radio hosts of centre-right persuasion.
    
    (Well “suck it up snowflake”, imagine all the conservative staff that work for the likes of say Radio NZ – they have to “suck it up snowflake” too as they silently cringe working with RNZ’s woke reporters and “attacks” on centre-right politicians by their morning show radio “personalities” and like her, have to remain silent and get on with their job. Sounds like that snowflake at Mediaworks/MT ought to join RNZ and be happy amongst her woke peers)!
    
    Farrier also alluded to some “misogyny” but never explained what it was (obviously clear as mud in his brain). But then again I take that that’s all in the mind of leftie snowflakes where anyone not kowtowing to their way of thinking is “misogynous”? Go figure.
    
    I guess Farrier has a guilt complex, he’s “white”, he’s therefore “privileged” and of the so-called “oppressor” class, so perhaps he’s become one of those people that has to “renounce” all this to remain hip with the “minority communities” and destroy people’s careers and livelihoods with glee and passion? If so, what sort of sicko person gets off on this?
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:31am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Let’s not forget that Farrier played a role in the downfall of Conservative Party leader Colin Craig with the now-infamous “sauna interview”
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2016/10/relive-colin-craigs-controversial-sauna-interview.html
      
      I think it’s safe to describe Farrier as being somewhat unusual ?
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Poor Colin Craig: tricked into showing what an idiot he is…
        
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        February 20, 2021 10:01am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Indeed; another demonstration of his absolute unsuitability for politics. His judgment in agreeing to that interview was dreadful.
        
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        February 20, 2021 7:16pm
    - oldfella
      
      Nathie, if Farrier, or anyone here on KB, is feeling guilty for being too white, I’d suggest a dose of Bill Burr. Crass, but funny.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1ZU8LDpVE&ab_channel=FlyingBearFilmMorgue
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:42am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    A good example of where it is appropriate to call someone a fine old olde english word, and a complete and utter one at that. But if you need to be super nice at a bare minimum he can GF.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:42am
    - kowtow
      
      If Ye Olde English devolved from French then douchebag fits the bill……..
      
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      February 20, 2021 11:10am
- Justitia
  
  So Grunter Robertson cancels Peter Williams because he dares to ask about the Davos WEF “Great Reset”? Here’s what one of Catholicism’s leading thinkers, Cardinal Gerhard Muller, has to say about it in last week’s National Catholic Register:
  
  ” Cardinal Gerhard Müller, prefect emeritus of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said he welcomes economists and politicians meeting to discuss the world economy, as the economy must benefit everyone and not a select few. But he wonders what “image of humanity” is held by WEF members and those of other similar select groups. As for the initiatives such as the Great Reset, he takes a decidedly jaundiced view.
  
  Without directly referring to the initiative, he told the Register Jan. 29 that two sides — “profiteering capitalism, big-tech giants of Western countries” and the “communism of the People’s Republic of China” — are today “converging and merging into a unified capital-socialism,” producing a “new colonialism” that the Pope has “often warned against.”
  
  “The goal, Cardinal Müller believes, “is absolute control of thought, speech and action.”
  
  I think you will agree both Robertson’s extreme reaction and the Cardinal’s appraisal of the Reset are very disturbing, each in their own way.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:36am
- Gravelroad
  
  @jibberjabber –
  That is shocking – and scary.
  I have never met Mr Robertson so didn’t realise he is actually a pompous, ego driven idiot.
  Who will be next to be shut down for asking a question on the radio?
  My guess: HDPA, Soper and M. Hosking.
  Communism is here. Now.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:46am
  - pdm
    
    HDPA has Robertson at about 6.07pm every Monday.
    
    Will she dare ask the `Great Reset’ question.
    
    I will be listening and hope she does – we cannot let this just slide into oblivion.
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:02am
KevO'Brien

Cinders to go all out on NZ energy control?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/18/claim-new-zealand-economy-will-have-to-restructure-around-a-limited-renewable-energy-supply/

A “researcher” gets job as paid activist.
She has omitted the hope implicit in the new sources of energy under commercial development. There are at least 5 known to me which between them will power everything from watches to the largest ships. This year may be one of the most stunning yet for these developments. A fellow in Zimbabwe cracked the Tesla problem and is selling 50Kw power plants–he can do megawatt ones too. (The USA has already cottoned on and given him a base there.) More to come.
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February 20, 2021 8:45am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jaspinda shifting the goalposts/resetting targets again?
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:49am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, tell me its not true!
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:21am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The biggest problem NZ has is the Greens and those who patronise the bastards
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:52am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    Biggest supporters are the Labour Party, you form a coalition when you can govern in your own left world. Speaks volumes to where the Labour Party sits on the political spectrum.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:10am
    - Happychappy
      
      But let’s not forget Winston Peters part in this as it was him that wanted to see the demise of Capitalism in his choice of selecting Jacinda as his Leader to lead the revolt and change NZ’s path, those thinking of voting for him and his Party at the next Election remember a leopard does not change it’s spots.
      
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      February 20, 2021 10:23am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Winston is a gone-burger, as is his party.
        I doubt they will be receiving any life-giving resuscitation funds for the next election.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:13am
  - kowtow
    
    Mega Woods is part of labour , and they shut down oil and gas .
    
    The Greens are just useful tools to beat . labour is in power and doing the damage . keep one’s eye on the ball.
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:13am
- nathie
  
  From that article:
  
  What a miserable vision of the future. A future where energy is rationed. A future where if you try to turn on an appliance at the wrong time a government approved smart meter will nag you about the bill you will have to pay, or inform you that no clothes washing or dish washing machines are permitted be switched on until 2pm tomorrow, when the solar panels are online.
  
  Exactly! What Labour/Greens will enable, is more disparity between the “haves” and the “have nots” i.e. the rich and the poor.
  
  One can see this future outcome from here (at this early point in time), which is, to cater for peak demands electricity costs will temporarily go higher … so as an example the “rich” will be able to afford to operate their ovens whilst simultaneously charging their EV’s (higher power bill) … but the “poor/working class/some middle class etc” will have to choose – do they cook dinner for the family at 6pm, or defer dinner until say 10pm when the electricity charges drop, because mum the cleaner or shift worker etc, has to charge her EV car in order to go to her job at 9pm.
  
  For all the ideals of Labour and the Greens and their zealotry, all that happens is they increase inequalities, making life harder for those that don’t earn the substantial pay-packets that Lab/Green MP “elites” earn to survive.
  
  So the answer to that by Lab/Greens? Why of course, more tax-payer subsidies and funding to assist (some of) the less well-off. It’s Peter robbing Paul scenarios and they never work out well …
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:57am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    And if have our own 25Kw or more power plants at home and don’t need to be attached to the grid what will the controllers do?
    One shortly to go into commercial production yields 18Kw electricity from a device including controller of 20x20x20 cm! It’s a bit like they are capturing nano-scale lightning. No big-bang nuclear tech or radiation and the unit may not need top ups either. The only battery is a torch cell for starters.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:23pm
- Fletch
  
  And if the Sun don’t shine, or the wind don’t blow and we have an emergency like Texas has, we’ll all be stuffed.
  
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  February 20, 2021 12:19pm
- Dougal10
  
  I think you will find that despite all the talk this government is right into coal generation. They have let meridian get Pukaki so low that huntley is going to have to increase production drastically to keep the auckland lights on.
  
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  February 20, 2021 5:00pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    We are currently generating 437MW with coal & gas
    https://www.transpower.co.nz/power-system-live-data
    
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    February 20, 2021 5:49pm
    - Dougal10
      
      And when next part of dc link gets shut down for maintainence shortly that will ramp up even more and stay up for whole winter probably.
      
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      February 20, 2021 6:58pm
Antoine

Aargh. Apparently math is racist:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/124281883/maths-is-everywhere–so-we-need-better-ways-of-learning-and-teaching-it

A.
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February 20, 2021 8:47am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Like many, if not most, legally trained people, I regularly joke about not being able to do maths. Lawyers and law students regularly talk among ourselves that we went to law school because we were terrible at maths at school.’
  
  Is that why their bills are so stiff ?
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:36am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    You have just pointed out the different outcomes of those with math’s brains and others with verbal skills. A memory for numbers does not make a math’s brain.
    Schools don’t seem to allow for these basics.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:39pm
- tf78
  
  Antoine, I was telling my elderly sister about that last night and she immediately said “Is that because men are generally better at it”, great response from and eighty year old.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:46am
- WaynelSexton
  
  The ethnomathematics movement sounds awesome.
  About time the left admitted that cultures are different and shouldn’t be treated the same.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:50am
- Inandout
  
  Ant, were it not for maths we would not have computers or any electronics for that matter. It appears the French consider maths important at these universities.
  https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/france/mathematics
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:44am
  - Master Mariner
    
    In fact the French have a natural flare for Mathematics.
    Some of greatest come from there.
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:20pm
- Cobolt24
  
  A good retort to that article: https://mises.org/wire/math-racist-does-not-compute
  
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  February 20, 2021 5:08pm
- Master Mariner
  
  It has to be,
  
  ie. 2+2 = 4
  He+ she = ?
  
  Anything with Fixed proven outcomes ( Black and white) has to be descrimitory now days.
  
  Probably not good example but get my drift.
  
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  February 20, 2021 5:55pm
lazza

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Hey Steve O

You (foolishly) said quote:

of Biden … “This man is not to be trusted’.

Wot?

Any more so than was … Trumpy?

Its all “relative”… you know.
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February 20, 2021 8:48am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Put your clothes back on, your TDS is showing
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:04am
Yvette

Calls for deradicalisation programme in NZ amid debate over NZ-born accused terrorist
“It needs some expertise and special programmes,” Islamic Women’s Council of New Zealand’s Anjum Rahman told 1 NEWS.
“The Government is funding over $8 million towards some kind of deradicalisation and rehab programme, there is a range of extremists in our country who would benefit from that and she would possibly be a good first case.”

In what way, besides subject matter, will a deradicalisation programme differ from GAYBC conversion therapy?
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February 20, 2021 8:49am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You will be really upset to learn about these ‘conversion’ programmes then:
  https://www.corrections.govt.nz/working_with_offenders/prison_sentences/employment_and_support_programmes/rehabilitation_programmes
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:12am
Tomtoddy

Is there anybody out there with a grasp of what the Climate Commission’s recommendations are going to cost. The Commission says a billion. A well known economist said $200 billion. NZIER didnt have a clue.

Now a leading international engineer – a former Kiwi said we will need to double our generating capability, build whole new transmission lines, rewire every building receiving electricity in what could cost $17 billion a year, every year going forward.

Most individuals and businesses insist on a well costed budget before starting a major project but not our clever government. They just fire off and hope.
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February 20, 2021 8:54am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Out generating capacity will not improve with the current bunch of loopy lefties. Fuck knows where the electricity will come from to power the future EVs
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:07am
  - tf78
    
    Steve O – Don’t worry, we will all be given bicycle’s with dynamo’s connected to the main grid and we will peddle our way to power.
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:11am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      If that crazy Californian Genter should ever get back in – yes
      
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      February 20, 2021 1:54pm
- MCos
  
  Who is this “leading international Kiwi engineer”?
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:11am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Professor Dr Michael Joseph Kelly FRS FREng[1] (born 14 May 1949) is a New Zealand-British physicist. He is Professor of Solid State Electronics and Nanoscale Science in the Division of Electrical Engineering, University of Cambridge.[2] He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1993 and won its Hughes Medal in 2006.
    
    Glad you asked.
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:45am
  - MCos
    
    Ken Ring?
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:10am
- redflagged
  
  All about the marketing this government, no follow through, I wouldn’t worry too much they don’t actually do anything other than talk. Well other than, borrow money, destroy productivity and businesses and the economy.
  
  Ok, we should worry.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:14am
- Yvette
  
  Tomtoddy
  
  As at 6 January 2021, the total value of grants funded projects is $67,288,134 across 582 approved applications.
  The One Billion Trees Fund has directly funded 42,602,000 [trees]
  (69% native, 31 exotic) – MPI website
  
  In total, close to 300,000 hectares of new native forests would be established by 2035 – Climate Commission
  At, it seems, about $1.58 a tree, the 300 million native trees now proposed will cost at least $473.8 million
  
  So that is nearly $0.47 billion on a project that still just offsets some emissions, but in fact doesn’t actually reduce one iota of the currently increasing emissions.
  Yep – that fits with Labour’s policy of non-delivery.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:36am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    The stupid thing is that most of those trees will be cut down sent to China, used as boxing and burnt within two years releasing the CO2 back into the atmosphere. Talk about short sighted.
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:01pm
- David George
  
  Thanks Tom, I read that report from the Kiwi engineer but can’t find it again, any chance you could put up a link. It’s impressive, the prospects for our green energy reset are extraordinarily difficult and expensive.
  Looks to me like the Government has no clue about how to realistically achieve their carbon neutral fantasy. Kiwibuild X 1,000!
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:02am
- kowtow
  
  All part of The Great Re Set , you know the thing Robbo doesn’t want talked about.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:59am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Their observations are already obsolete when new energy sources are considered.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:42pm
- Master Mariner
  
  I gave up when on Pg 49 , All shipping and aviation does not need to be included in this report.
  So in a nutshell,
  All calculations are based on arrival in country.
  Classic example EV.
  How much energy was needed to produce it. Quite a lot more than conventional car.
  How much energy was required in minning and shipping “rare earths” etc.
  This is why its all nonsense to me unless you “cature” the whole productioin process from start to finish.
  I mean seriously , it is all opinions littered with Bullshit information and solely Agenda driven.
  Gobbledlygook
  
  Go Nuclear and be done with it.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:56pm
Paulus

Have heard from UK that preparations are being held in Iran so that the day Biden signs the Non Proliferation Treaty ( which is already broken anyway) again there will be a huge nationwide celebration by the people of beating the Great Satan again.
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February 20, 2021 8:54am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You seem under-informed:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons
  Did you mean the JCPOA?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action
  That’s the agreement between Iran, the US, Russia and the European union to prevent Iran developing nuclear weapons.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:17am
  - tf78
    
    mm, I think Biden has just undone that.
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:12am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      No, Trump abandoned the JCPOA; Biden is rejoining it.
      
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      February 20, 2021 11:17am
Swifty

Ravi Zacharias, who died last year, was regarded by some as “one of the greatest Christian Apologists the world has seen over the last 20, 30 years…”

“Ravi Zacharias (26 March 1946 – 19 May 2020) was an Indian-born Canadian-American Christian apologist who founded the RZIM (Ravi Zacharias International Ministry). He was involved in Christian apologetics for a period spanning more than 40 years. Zacharias was the author of more than 30 books on Christianity,[1] including the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association’s Gold Medallion Book Award winner Can Man Live Without God? in the category “theology and doctrine”[2] as well as Christian bestsellers Light in the Shadow of Jihad and The Grand Weaver.[3] Zacharias was the founder and chairman of the board of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries (RZIM) and host of the radio programs Let My People Think and Just Thinking.[4][5] He was a lifelong minister of the Christian and Missionary Alliance, the Keswickian Christian denomination in which he was ordained.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravi_Zacharias

I first came across him I guess ten years ago, on YouTube, and my ears pricked up when he referred to himself as “a Professor at Oxford” and that he had “studied under John Polkinghorne”, the eminent Cambridge physicist. I was at that time interested in arguments supporting the notion that morality and ‘God’ were inextricably intertwined and that you can’t have one without the other.

Well, it’s all come crashing down.

He has now been exposed by his own ministry as being a serial liar about his credentials, a serial rooter despite his denials made when alive that he has been entirely faithful to his wife for over 45 years, a man who traveled the world with ‘massage therapists’ with whom he banged and pleasured himself with and paid them off with ministry funds and who maintained digital contact with hundreds of women around the world and which included intimate conversations and pictures.

And when confronted with rumours while he was alive?

“Rather than fostering an environment of truth-seeking and transparency, Mr. Zacharias was
strident and inflammatory. He described his critics as “nasty people” and “lunatics” who were
engaging in “‘satanic-type’ slander and falsehood.” Some RZIM staff told us that he expressed
frustration with having to issue an apology at all. He was able to convince many that not only was
he innocent, he was the victim of malicious “evil.” At an all-staff virtual meeting in January 2018,
after significant details of the Thompson communications had been made public, Mr. Zacharias offered explanations that many staff members found nonsensical. But some staff members reported to us that when they expressed doubts about Mr. Zacharias’s story, they were ignored, marginalized, and accused of disloyalty….”

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rzimmedia.rzim.org/assets/downloads/Report-of-Investigation.pdf

And what was his modus opandi?

“This witness told us that their relationship began as a normal massage therapist-client
relationship, and she came to think of him as a father figure. He elicited information about her
faith and her financial situation. She reported that after he arranged for the ministry to provide her
with financial support, he required sex from her. According to this witness, Mr. Zacharias used
religious expressions to gain compliance, as she was raised to be a person of faith. She reported
that he made her pray with him to thank God for the “opportunity” they both received. She said he
called her his “reward” for living a life of service to God, and he referenced the “godly men” in
the Bible with more than one wife. She said he warned her not ever to speak out against him or
she would be responsible for the “millions of souls” whose salvation would be lost if his reputation was damaged.”

I’ll leave KBers to make their own judgments on this man’s morality and ethics after a lifetime of worshipping his ‘god’.
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February 20, 2021 8:57am
- marcw
  
  Probably 99.9% of KB readers will never of heard of, be interested in, or care about this now dead, apparent bible bashing con artist. He’s hardly the first, and won’t be the last, so why the long and irrelevant post is of such importance to you is a mystery to me.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:42am
  - Swifty
    
    Irrelevant marcw? To whom? To what?
    
    This is General Debate. Is it not?
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:52am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Zacharias’ post-humous downfall only serves to illustrate that Christians aren’t perfect, regardless of what they claim. My faith is between me and God, and I’d never tell anyone else how to live, as there are too many skeletons rattling in my own wardrobe.
  
  The Christian community will be devastated to learn of his deceit and moral failings, but that doesn’t change the nature of God.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:49am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    ‘Christians aren’t perfect’ LOL
    Just another in the extremely long list of fraudulent evangelical preachers.
    
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    February 20, 2021 10:08am
    - Srikaya
      
      What, are you perfect then?
      
      What Ravi did was terrible, but I’m sure you and I have done things we would rather be kept secret as well.
      
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      February 20, 2021 11:05am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Unlike Zacharias, and countless other evangelical pastors, I don’t go around lecturing others on morality and promoting a faith which I can’t practice myself.
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:49am
      - Jack5
        
        Milky, your: “I don’t go around lecturing others …. etc etc.”
        
        ???
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:50pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You should try to read full sentences…
        
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        February 20, 2021 3:22pm
    - Srikaya
      
      By the way. Of course you only hear about the fraudulent preachers. The good ones are too faithful and ‘boring’ to get media coverage. I’ve known some wonderful ones who weren’t like that, mostly serving in obscurity, having deep but unfeted transformative impact in my life and others. I’m so thankful the huge impact they have had on my mental health and life, love them so much for the vital work they do for very little pay and recognition.
      
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      February 20, 2021 12:14pm
      - Srikaya
        
        Sorry, reported Mikenmildagain by accident.
        
        That’s exactly it though. The whole idea is that we don’t practice what is good, we all have standards and yet all utterly fail even our own standards. Yet standards are real and justice should be served.
        
        That’s where Christianity stands alone because it provides a perfect Saviour, Jesus. Every other religion (or nonreligion) can only satisfy their conscience by either shifting the moral goalposts to be achievable (until they inevitably fail them), or live in endless guilt and despair because they can’t deal with the guilt they know they can’t escape. That’s why we need a Saviour to deal with it.
        
        Everybody looks to saviours. Heard of St Jacinda?
        
        Christ deals with our sin before God, the only objective judge who has omniscience and omnipotence. That’s why there can be final justice for people like Mao and Hitler, whose role in the death of millions surely cannot be outweighed by their own single death alone.
        
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        February 20, 2021 1:13pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        The typical preacher is a pious God honouring person. The one singled out is an aberration.
        
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        February 20, 2021 2:48pm
- I remember when
  
  As The Donald says ‘You can’t be responsible for everything your believers do.’
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:50am
- Srikaya
  
  God cares about justice and it’s right that hidden things should be exposed.
  
  Eventually if there’s going to be true ultimate justice, every wrong and secret act that anyone has ever done will need to be balanced in the books. It’s not just him who has the skeletons brought out…. justice will one day happen to all of us too.
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:00am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Yeah, nah.
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:50am
MCos

I see Ted Cruz not only got out of town and headed to Mexico because his young daughters couldn’t stand the cold anymore, so he says, & his wife couldn’t look after them by herself, but he left the family dog in the freezing dark house by itself.
The family hadn’t been gone more than a few hours and the lights came on! Some concerned passerby snapped the pooch looking mournfully out the front window – Where’s my daddy?
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February 20, 2021 9:00am
- MCos
  
  https://twitter.com/mkerrhardy/status/1362483919086624775?s=21
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:09am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Careful, Ted Cruz has a few fans here. Before Trump-mania, a few noted Kiwibloggers favoured him for Prez.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:09am
- Inandout
  
  MCos, and many people just put their dogs out in the cold to fend for themselves, probably some Dems among them. Oh, and the Huskies would love the cold.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:50am
- oldfella
  
  Just read somewhere that the Cruz trip to Mexico is getting three times the coverage on MSM than the Cuomo ‘killing Granny’ scandal. Which really is a scandal, but the Cruz story is useful as a ‘squirrels’ diversion. The left are great at that.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:56am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Cruz story is big because the public love to hear about that kind of blatant, personal hypocrisy.
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:18am
    - oldfella
      
      Exactly Mike. The public is much less interested in a beloved lefty Democrat MSM favourite like Governor Cuomo killing thousands of elderly people with his gross mismanagement. Especially with the MSM running interference. Like they did so effectively with Hunter’s laptop.
      
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      February 20, 2021 11:36am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        “Butt Hunterrr!”
        Would you like me to add a few other random whataboutisms?
        
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        February 20, 2021 11:51am
    - Ruahine
      
      Cruz story is big because he is a Republican.
      
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      February 20, 2021 12:09pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Leaving Texas in the lurch is one thing. Leaving the lurcher in Texas is something else.
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:11am
JibberJabber

Bill Gates vision for your future…https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/631602128574881792

“This water tastes like shit and you’ll love it.”
Gates, Schwab and the Greens bringing their vision of Utopia, freezing to death in the Dark, closer by the minute.
Random impertinent question, Why would Bill Gates, now reportedly the largest landowner of farmland in the US, support the production of lab-grown meat?
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February 20, 2021 9:03am
- MCos
  
  “freezing to death in the Dark”
  
  As always Texas beat him to it.
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:53am
- SB2
  
  If true I believe its plant-based meat.
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:07am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Free-range Petri dishes or Battery caged Petri dishes?
    
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    February 20, 2021 12:07pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    That doesn’t make it meat. More detailed info has other lifeforms.
    
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    February 20, 2021 2:53pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Meat is the flesh of an animal.
    
    Plant-based substitutes for meat are not meat.
    
    Lab-based meats are produced from the cultured cells of live animals, animal fetuses, or recently slaughtered animals.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/jan/19/cultured-meat-on-its-way-to-a-table-near-you-cultivated-cells-farming-society-ethics
    
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    February 20, 2021 3:04pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Chew on this down-tickers…
      
      https://www.newfoodmagazine.com/article/120089/report-identifies-top-five-cultured-meat-companies/
      
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      February 20, 2021 4:14pm
  - Dougal10
    
    All meat produced in nz is plant based. It just requires a natural conversion process .
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:02pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Dear right. Or as the bumper sticker I saw a while ago put it:
      
      I’m a second-hand vegetarian. Animals eat grass, and I eat animals!
      
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      February 20, 2021 7:11pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Methinks Gates may have underestimated the level of opposition to his (eradication of meat) agenda,
  https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1362907317369405444
  “Don’t be messing with our meat.”
  
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  February 20, 2021 12:56pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Money.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:50pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Same reason he gave All Children in Africa 100$ Laptops.
  He believes in his own self importance and knowledge .
  Hes the modern day Messiah?
  
  Keep up with the times//
  
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  February 20, 2021 3:09pm
nathie

Is the reason why Grant Robertson wanted to shut down discussion of the World Economic Forum and the so-called “Great Reset” because that is the agenda that the Labour Party are following?

If so, that makes some sense as Labour are not issuing substantive policy (in these areas the “great reset” concentrates on) but every now and then some life/economic changing “policy” is released completely out of the blue with aligns 100% with this so-called “great reset”.

Think oil and gas exploration bans, conversion of farms into forestry, the proposed elimination of the clean natural gas energy sector, over regulation and compliance on the productive agricultural sector, carbon neutrality, promotion of EV’s (which are unaffordable for most and the infrastructure isn’t in place), the banning of petrol car imports and so on.

So one other question about all this is, why is NZ with its so-called “independent foreign policy”, following a path led by basically, global “Capitalists” (to re-align industry and profit from it)?

But the other important question is, does the MSM even care?

Doesn’t look like it because some of them (the activist journos) are too busy knocking MagicTalk. I think the rest of the MSM ought to thank Peter Williams for bringing this all to our collective wider attention and start some investigating …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset#Critics_of_the_Great_Reset_agenda

https://thebfd.co.nz/2021/02/19/peter-williams-hits-a-nerve-with-grant-robertson-over-great-reset/
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February 20, 2021 9:06am
- Ruahine
  
  nathie.
  What is worse are the NZ public aware of these things or do they even care. Ignorance is bliss it would appear.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:18am
- tf78
  
  nathie, I think the story tellers are too ignorant/naïve to realize what’s going on and what they are actually promoting.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:23am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Why wasn’t this presented at the elections as it appears to be without mandate failing that.
  A second issue is that Schwab is seeing people like Robertson as useful idiots to further his purposes.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:56pm
Maggie Pie

In the kitchen last evening preparing dinner (Thai glazed Duck Breast with Broccolini & buttered rice).
TV3 News was on in the background, and I pricked up my ears when I heard them say….”ISIS Bride and suspected Terrorist, Suhayra Adern, was actually born in MT ROSKILL, where she lived with her parents yill the age of 6, at which stage they all departed for Australia”

Of course what immediately went through my mind, was whether or not ‘SB2’ might have known her, or the family?
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February 20, 2021 9:11am
- SB2
  
  MP, visit your Doctor ASAP
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:05am
- JibberJabber
  
  Given SBs stalking of St Lukes Mall, a perfectly reasonable query.
  
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  February 20, 2021 12:31pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Surely that’s glazed duck chest, Maggie
  
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  February 20, 2021 3:03pm
Maggie Pie

And I’ll tell you something else that drives me bonkers…
trying to open those silly little ‘Greggs Spice’ packets.

Just saying.
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February 20, 2021 9:26am
- Biscuit
  
  Anything vacuum-packed gets my nips in a tizzy, Maggie!
  
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  February 20, 2021 9:57am
  - oldfella
    
    Biscuit: not sure you’re allowed to say ‘nips’ any more. The Japanese are now our friends.
    Please update your groupthink dictionary. //
    
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    February 20, 2021 11:00am
    - Biscuit
      
      Humble apologies, oldfella and to all Japanese readers!
      
      I stand (well, I sit) chastened.
      
      I shall punish myself, severely, by only having choccky biscuit with my lunchtime cup of coffee!
      
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      February 20, 2021 12:27pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Humble apologies, oldfella and to all Japanese readers!
        
        I stand (well, I sit) chastened.
        
        I shall punish myself, severely, by only having one choccky biscuit with my lunchtime cup of coffee!
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:27pm
      - Biscuit
        
        It’s happened AGAIN.
        
        Everything I post posts TWICE.
        
        Grrrr…
        
        Any ideas on what I am (all of a sudden) doing wrong?
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:35pm
      - kowtow
        
        Seppuku , or you’re not really solly.
        
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        February 20, 2021 12:52pm
- Martin Williams
  
  You could always buy Mrs Roger’s, but I suspect you’d rather continue struggle with Gregg’s packet because you are a man’s woman.
  
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  February 20, 2021 4:50pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Triggered again eh Marty! Hardly worth blowing your butt-plug over!
    
    Stick to downticking you leftard dik 😀
    
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    February 20, 2021 6:46pm
I remember when

According to CDC records:
As of last week only 165 flu-related hospitalisations since October.
For 65+ alone their numbers for the 2019-2020 flu season were approx 1.9 milllion flu cases, 1.1 million health care visits, 175k hospitalisations and 13,700+ deaths.
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February 20, 2021 9:42am
- Cinematic
  
  The flu must be feeling pretty grumpy about this young virus upstart.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:53am
I remember when

Is the Social Justice movement ‘gender-inclusive’?
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February 20, 2021 9:45am
- Ruahine
  
  No. ‘White’ males are excluded.
  
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  February 20, 2021 10:14am
I remember when

Google accounts for 53% of online advertising in Australia and Facebook eats up another 23%, per the country’s treasurer.
The idea of making platforms share $$$ with publishers is gaining traction elsewhere, including the EU and UK.
Why would you want (or allow) multinationals to gobble up your advertising revenue?
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February 20, 2021 9:58am
- BAM
  
  Also means media companies aren’t reliant on government handouts to survive, which means more independent reporting.
  
  Amazing how so many “smart people” don’t see the big picture.
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:28am
  - curry4me
    
    BAM: Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. Thanks for the heads up.
    
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    February 20, 2021 1:23pm
Maggie Pie

What I love about a good Wine = it doesn’t ask silly questions.

Wine understands.
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February 20, 2021 11:23am
- mikenmildagain
  
  “wine; a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy.”
  – Benjamin Franklin
  
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  February 20, 2021 11:54am
Maggy Wassilieff

NZ’s Energy future?

According to climate researcher Jen Purdie, even New Zealand with its abundance of windy mountains, geothermal sources and vast hydropower lakes cannot provide enough renewable energy for people to live in comfort and ease.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/18/claim-new-zealand-economy-will-have-to-restructure-around-a-limited-renewable-energy-supply/
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February 20, 2021 11:52am
- curry4me
  
  Maggy Wassilieff: Thanks for this. I’ll send this one to my cousin too. She’s beginning to doubt the Saint Greta narrative.
  
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  February 20, 2021 1:26pm
oldfella

So, when the cops finally grab all those gang guns? You know, the ones the predominantly Maori ‘social clubs’ forgot to surrender as part of Glorious Leader’s glorious and generous gun buy-back. What will the gangs do then?
Maybe they’ll just print a few more.
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“3D-printed guns, or functional firearms that can be mostly or entirely manufactured at home with a 3D printer, are getting more sophisticated and more dangerous.
For a long time, 3D-printed guns were still quite slapdash. Early homemade handguns would break apart after firing once, and they served as more of a symbolic middle finger to government firearm regulation than a tangible threat. But they’re getting steadily more advanced, Slate reports. Now, a prominent 3D-printed gun community plans to unveil the designs for a functional, upgraded assault rifle early this year.”
https://futurism.com/the-byte/3d-print-entire-semi-automatic-rifle-home
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February 20, 2021 12:17pm
oldfella

Quick, tell Cindy. We need to do more. Time is running out! They sky is falling, the sky is falling. Really. This time. It really is.
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GLOBAL WARMING: Kerry Says Paris Climate Accord Isn’t Enough, We Will All Die In 9 Years
Despite the United Nations previously saying that the United States was greener than ever under President Donald Trump and no longer needed to join the Paris Climate Accord, Climate Czar John Kerry now says Joe Biden rejoining the economically devastating compact is no longer enough, and we will all die in 9 years unless radical action is taken.
“The scientists told us three years ago we had 12 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis, we are now three years gone, so we have 9 years left,” said Kerry.
https://nationalfile.com/global-warming-kerry-says-paris-climate-accord-isnt-enough-we-will-all-die-in-9-years/
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February 20, 2021 12:32pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Cripes, we won’t have enough time left to even bury the world population.
  
  Where do these doomsayers get their dangerous ideas. Is it just ramping up their desire for control like Karl Schwab, WEF Chief, who want’s to “transhumanise” us with implants. Along with Gates they want to massively reduce the population. Apparently aliens are waiting for that so they can return!
  We have crazies with too much power and money pulling the levers. Does Robbo know what they think of him–a useful idiot.
  
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  February 20, 2021 3:05pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFvQBFrAESE

Jack Ma’s Dirty Secret | Power Struggle Rips Ant Financial.

Why did China and Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping make Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, disappear, and block a $300 billion IPO of Ant Financial? It turns out Jack Ma had a dirty secret—Ant Financial had major investors tied to a political faction within the Communist Party of China tied to former Chinese leader Jiang Zemin. He was the guy responsible for genocide against Falun Gong, aka Falun Dafa, and is locked in a deadly battle for power with Xi Jinping. Crime doesn’t Alipay.
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February 20, 2021 12:36pm
curry4me

https://rumble.com/vdzwjl-poland-strikes-back-against-big-tech-as-nations-revolt-against-leftist-cens.html

Poland v Big Tech.

Poland STRIKES BACK Against BIG TECH as more and more nations around the world REVOLT Against Leftist Censorship! In this video, we’re going to take a look at the latest measures that the nation of Poland is taking to punish the censorship practices of Big Tech oligarchs, how they’re leading the way for more and more nations to effectively clamp down on online censorship, and why this worldwide backlash against Big Tech is just beginning. [I voted for politicians to make our in 2020. Not geeks from silicon Valley.]
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February 20, 2021 12:36pm
Rich Prick

The fun is over, but there must be some Islamic shithole willing to take her? Eritrea, Yemen or Birmingham.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/alleged-kiwi-isis-terrorist-suhayra-aden-set-to-be-deported-from-turkey/5NADN6PXXFEPMBSXU7IJDF33E4/
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February 20, 2021 2:05pm
- skyblue
  
  Yep. Mt Roskill.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:49pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    😀 😀 😀
    
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    February 20, 2021 3:41pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    No. I understand the government is buying this property to house the family for the de-radicalisation programme.
    https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/property/residential/sale/auckland/auckland-city/remuera/listing/2965078881
    
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    February 20, 2021 4:11pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      de-radicalisation programme Does that refer to the whole of the Labour and Green MP’s? Some of the Cabinet are sorely in need.
      
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      February 20, 2021 6:34pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      I’m radicalised, where do I sign up for free shit? I’ll need a shed and gas bottles. And comfort calls by stephies’ girls. Durka durka.
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:06pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    I’d be inclined to build a wall round that shithole before it’s too late.
    
    Out East, Maggie is fine, provided she doesn’t try the Little Biddy gin we all got sent for Christmas by a certain yacht club.
    
    It tastes like Green Tea mixed with Nun’s piss and Christian Brother testicular sweat. Not one for the better ladies. And I have no idea what you mix it with. Sea water didn’t work either.
    
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    February 20, 2021 9:23pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Joking aside, what’s odd is she moved to Aus as a Kiwi when aged six & but obtained Aus citizenship prior to her departure for Syria. Yet people keep telling how hard it is for Kiwis to get Aussie citizenship. Something’s a bit off.
  
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  February 20, 2021 3:07pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She is just a pawn in the game of vote harvesting by Labour. Just like the Democrats, Labour will do ANYTHING to gets votes
    
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    February 20, 2021 3:36pm
- Inandout
  
  RP, perhaps Rochdale, Paris, Malmo, Dearborn?
  
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  February 20, 2021 4:41pm
- Martin Williams
  
  Oh dear. There might be another burka in your street. How will you cope?
  
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  February 20, 2021 4:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If you are ever lost in the bush, start talking politics real loud. Someone will come to argue with you
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February 20, 2021 2:12pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The next time your wife gets angry, drape a towel over her shoulders (like a cape) and say “now you are SUPER ANGRY”
Maybe she will laugh.
Maybe you will die
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February 20, 2021 2:14pm
Brian McDonald

I’m not sure if this has been mentioned before in this long thread but one of the principal arguments in the Covid discussions was “what about Sweden.”
Well here’s “what about Sweden.”
Sweden decides on lockdown measure:
Until now, the Swedish government has relied mostly on the public following official health recommendations voluntarily.
But lawmakers passed the new pandemic law on Friday, allowing the government to “introduce special restrictions for both certain activities and places,” according to a statement on the parliament’s website.
The new law is expected to be used imminently.
“We see a great risk that we will be in a difficult situation for some time ahead,” Prime Minister Stefan Lofven told Swedish network SVT ahead of the law’s passage. “And we will be using it in the near future.”
So much for herding.
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February 20, 2021 2:26pm
- kowtow
  
  How many times has it been said and referenced to the Swedish health Minister that they never claimed to be going for “herd immunity” that they never had a “light touch”.
  
  They like just about every other western nation already had a pandemic plan , which they adhered to , unlike just about every other country , who saw what the Chinese totalitarians imposed and then when they saw the Italians “got away with ” the same draconian measures imposed same .
  
  Sweden admits they messed up with it getting into the care homes , well where else in the west is much different in that regard , including New York and the UK where they actually actively transferred patients from hospitals to care homes and spread the plague …….but oh no , Sweden Sweden Sweden.
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:56pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Just remember that if breathing wasn’t a “reflex” action we wouldn’t have any idiots ……..
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:08pm
    - Brian McDonald
      
      You wouldn’t be missed Little Man.
      
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      February 20, 2021 9:13pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        He was talking about you, fuckwit.
        
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        February 20, 2021 9:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Here is some fun for you lefties to enjoy. Trump’s first day at the Whitehouse 94 years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCZV4b9I26w
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February 20, 2021 2:26pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  ffs, 4 years ago. Bracket not a bloody 9
  
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  February 20, 2021 2:30pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Too much non smokey? .. 😉
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:09pm
lifesgood

I have always thought it was colourful and charming that share milkers refered to the day they moved farms as “gypsy day”. Then some pc do good wankers came along and said “You can’t call it that it is offensive to traveling people” So now share milkers have to call it “moving day”…how boring! Anyway, on Friday nights on TV one there is a programme called My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. It follows gypsies living in England…they ALL refer to themselves as gypsies, they are PROUD to be gypsies, they take absolutely no offense at being called gypsies. So why the hell do share milkers have to follow some petty little nut job and refer to the day they change farms as “moving day”. I hope they continue to call it gypsy day among themselves and give the tedious little bureaucrat who came up with this idea a two fingered salute.
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February 20, 2021 2:54pm
- kowtow
  
  It was that knob head the now maoyor of Dunedin when he was a councillor .
  
  ‘A recent Otago Regional Council media release referred to Gypsy Day, but Dunedin city councillor Aaron Hawkins objected, saying the term ”gypsy” was often used as a slur against Roma people.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/business/farming/dairy-industry-urged-take-care
  
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  February 20, 2021 4:06pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I thought it was always called ‘moving day’.
  
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  February 20, 2021 4:08pm
  - lifesgood
    
    What would you know MM? I have share milking relatives. They have always called it gypsy day. And that Aaron Hawkins is an idiot. The Irish travelers, who love to be called gypsies, are not Roma.
    
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    February 20, 2021 6:40pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      We had a Gypsy Fair through Whanganui a couple of weeks ago. The gypsies who travel around the country doing their Gypsy Fairs clearly aren’t offended by the title!
      
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      February 20, 2021 7:04pm
  - Dougal10
    
    Mooving day i think you will find is the new official term used when talking to the press .
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Coke has gone full woke. I don’t drink the shit anyway – it is a shame that some people mix a good whisky with a girly drink. Straight with 2 cubes of ice is best with my Crown Royal.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/02/19/coca-cola-is-forcing-their-employees-to-chug-down-seminars-on-how-to-be-less-whi-n2585029?
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February 20, 2021 3:17pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Ice is unnecessary to enjoy whisky.
  
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  February 20, 2021 3:27pm
  - fernglas
    
    Ice is anathema to the enjoyment of whisky.
    
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    February 20, 2021 3:45pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      In your tastes maybe. Please explain RTDs. Mike will be interested.
      Btw, I do not drink single malts – too smokey
      
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      February 20, 2021 4:59pm
      - JibberJabber
        
        Too SMOKEY!!?? put a skirt on ya Girly…?
        
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        February 20, 2021 5:41pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Only a few are smokey Steve and even fewer of the Irish variety.
        
        Now this is worth a try even though it may be a tad smokey….
        
        https://www.whiskyandmore.co.nz/products/elements-of-islay-peat-full-proof-59-3-500ml?_pos=6&_sid=81e0646e8&_ss=r
        
        And NO, I don’t have a financial interest in the distillery 🙂
        
        Also not smokey but tasty
        
        https://www.whiskyandmore.co.nz/collections/speyside-whisky-for-sale/products/tomatin-legacy-whisky-with-two-glasses
        
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        February 20, 2021 7:00pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Now now, each to their own. My wife enjpys a Tullamore Dew with a few cubes whereas I prefer Jamesons with a splash but, each to their own :
      
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      February 20, 2021 6:51pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Have you tried Japanese single malts Tall Man? I have a bottle of a Suntory whisky named The Chita in my cupboard at home, and it is superb.
        
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        February 20, 2021 7:13pm
      - JibberJabber
        
        I enjoy the Whisky ( in moderation of course, heh, heh), the different distilleries but the one I keep coming back to is The Balvenie.
        Wet the glass? and pour in a dram or three. ?
        
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        February 20, 2021 8:15pm
      - Tall Man
        
        No but I will, thanks.
        
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        February 20, 2021 8:28pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It melts and the water helps the whisky to breathe Mike. On the rocks brings out the flavour.
    Back to your RTDs sonny – Woody maybe
    
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    February 20, 2021 4:01pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      The ice numbs the pallet, dulls the flavours and, when melted, dilutes the drink too much. Try a few drops of water instead – this releases the hydrophobic flavour elements. If you must have it chilled, use whisky stones.
      
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      February 20, 2021 4:07pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Idiot Mike. I have two small cubes of ice in a large sherry glass.
        Whisky stones are for girls to play with when you saturate them with RTDs.
        Got the idea son?
        
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        February 20, 2021 4:11pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Sherry glass? Okay…
        
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        February 20, 2021 4:47pm
      - JibberJabber
        
        Holy sheeit, the thread where I can uptick Mikey ?
        
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        February 20, 2021 5:35pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I do have whiskey/whisky stones but found the whiskey less flavoursome than with just a splash of filtered water, sometimes chilled.
        
        May not like the way you choose to comment Mike but do appreciate your method of consumption.
        
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        February 20, 2021 6:54pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        When we went to The Glenlivet distillery up near Inverness a few years ago, we were told in no uncertain terms that you did NOT put ice with a single malt whisky, because it stops the flavour expanding in the glass. The only approved additive was a couple of drops of room temperature water.
        
        I normally don’t even bother with that. The 15yo Glenlivet I brought home (now 21 years old!) is fine just as it is, and I follow the advice my grandfather gave me shortly before his death in his 99th year; the only thing you have with whisky is more whisky!
        
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        February 20, 2021 7:08pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Hmmmm,
        
        https://www.bestforyourkitchen.com/images/289/Crystal-Port-Sherry-Glasses-Set-Of-6-Majestic16.jpg
        
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        February 20, 2021 6:56pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Make a note of the date. Mikenmild and I are in agreement as to the application of ice to the nectar of the gods!
        
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        February 20, 2021 7:14pm
  - Dougal10
    
    The thing about a good whisky is it can be drunk whichever way the consumer of it desires unlike a crap whisky that can ruin a good glass of coke.
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:51pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING!!!!!!

Here is the latest just received as a member of TFL, concerning the whereabouts and wellbeing of my Twitter bestie…. ‘Princes Latifa bint Al Maktoum’, kidnapped and imprisoned in a single room by her Father, who is not only a close friend of Queen Elizabeth, but is also the ruler of Dubai.

https://twitter.com/TeamFreeLatifa/status/1362882782884745220

The world needs to know – PLEEEESE RETWEET!
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February 20, 2021 3:38pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The great white chief of the House of Windsor has been acting strange lately
  
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  February 20, 2021 4:05pm
Martin Williams

Here’s our beautiful border workers receiving their first Covid-19 shots. These people put themselves and their families in harms way to keep you ingrates safe.

Yet some here would rather base the vaccination program on the number of infected people bringing the virus into NZ from regions who have given up fighting it, namely Asia, the US, and Europe.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/02/coronavirus-pictures-show-first-group-of-kiwi-border-workers-receiving-covid-19-vaccinations.html
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February 20, 2021 4:42pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Is Cindy going to issue “Ingrate” tags too? A lot goes on at Fraser House.
  
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  February 20, 2021 6:24pm
- Tall Man
  
  What a nasty person you are, symptomatic of someone with an inferiority complex.
  
  A maths teacher of mine many years ago explained it this way, people don’t have an inferiority complex, they are.
  
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  February 20, 2021 6:45pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You do seem to have a major comprehension problem, Martin.
  
  No-one on KB has advocated that our vaccination programme should be based on the number of infected folk arriving in NZ.
  
  Our host yesterday just pointed out the big flaw in the article by Joel Maxwell advocating race-based vaccination.
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:26pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Beautiful? What’s the point of the adjective? Do they make you horny? I have no idea, but you’re weird.
  
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  February 20, 2021 8:58pm
Waipuk

It would have been the same wanker who complained and had the milk ad banned because the girl on her bike rode 3 feet on the footpath.
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February 20, 2021 4:43pm
- Tall Man
  
  There’s a world of hate in some people, look just above.
  
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  February 20, 2021 6:47pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

5 – 0
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February 20, 2021 4:44pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  See? another typo not done by me. It is 5 – 1.
  Also, I was able to uptick myself on two posts today.
  Mike, tell me how it is done please
  
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  February 20, 2021 5:51pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If NZ was to lose the Americas Cup I would like it to go to the NZ friends Luna Rossa
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February 20, 2021 5:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Congrats to UK in the Prada Cup, fun begins again tomorrow.
  
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  February 20, 2021 5:45pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I know sweet-fanny about AC yachting Steve.
    My partner was out there today watching. Result was exactly as he called it. One each. He maintains this is the biggest rort out. Keep those punters glued to the telly for as long as they can. Happy sponsors keep tipping in the cash.
    
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    February 20, 2021 7:18pm
Master Mariner

This is of concern to myself,
Arguably because i understand very little about AI and Data gathering but very wary all the same.

https://news.microsoft.com/en-nz/2021/02/17/catching-covid-19-the-digital-mapmakers-that-helped-drive-new-zealands-successful-virus-response/
https://www.mbie.govt.nz/dmsdocument/5754-artificial-intelligence-shaping-a-future-new-zealand-pdf
https://techwireasia.com/2020/05/new-zealand-open-for-business-as-microsoft-plans-regional-data-center/

Cant help thinking we are used as a test case for Bill Gates agenda?

Anyone else fully understand this?

It just sits uneasy with me and far greater “potential” implications than a 5 eyes listening base in NZ.

Something does’nt sit easy with me about Bill Gates, Thats all.
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February 20, 2021 5:04pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  The maths are doubtful but the desire for commercial opportunity is rampant. The advanced differential equations calculating reproduction rate are at odds with random sampling. The repro rate does sterling duty in creating fear as it rises with the quantity of testing.
  
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  February 20, 2021 6:21pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    Thanks, Kev.
    
    You have a wonderful knack of putting complicated concepts into easily understandable language.
    
    Quite simply, you’re a treasure.
    
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    February 20, 2021 6:55pm
    - greybeard
      
      “Money talks”.
      “Lies, damned lies and statistics”
      
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