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December 17, 2020 1:47pm by David Farrar

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bartybart

hahahahahahah made my day, can we have a response Maggie pls
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December 17, 2020 1:49pm
ancient one

The inimitable Bob Jones.
Responds with style but never malice
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December 17, 2020 1:54pm
RJ

[Mod Note: You complain about SB2. Readers can either ignore, downvote, upvote or Report posts. If you don’t agree with them posting, then maybe stop responding to them.

eg. https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/12/general_debate_17_december_2020.html/comment-page-1#comment-2860298 ]
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December 17, 2020 1:56pm
- Mike
  
  Boo freaking hoo. As if the moron stephieboy is the only one who has ever flung shit on Kiwiblog.
  
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  December 17, 2020 2:05pm
  - RJ
    
    Not surprised you defend what he has done
    
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    December 17, 2020 3:10pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Why on earth has my polite, informative reply to SB2 been referenced here?
  
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  December 17, 2020 2:23pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    Its a badge of honour Maggy – you’re able to debate highly emotional/contentious issues in a respectful and thoughtful (and factual) manner. I expect the moderator was trying to have you lead by example Ma’am.
    
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    December 17, 2020 5:02pm
- RJ
  
  No reason for that post to be moderated, simple fact far worse that happens on this blog that David and the moderators ignore and do nothing about
  
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  December 17, 2020 3:05pm
- BassilFawlty
  
  Ridiculous.
  
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  December 18, 2020 8:35am
EvoDriver

This made me LOL, literally! Thanks!
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December 17, 2020 1:56pm
Harriet

I’ve always liked Sir Robert sitting on the outside of things and pointing out the idiots, stupidity and low standards. Democracy needs more like him, NZ has been well served.

I’d like to hear what he thinks of NZ having a senate. 😎
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December 17, 2020 1:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I’d wager Maggie Pie is a man.
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December 17, 2020 2:00pm
- Mike
  
  It’s a sock puppet account to put people off going to Tindalls Beach.
  
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  December 17, 2020 2:03pm
- Kimble
  
  You’d know.
  
  Wassilieff means pie.
  
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  December 17, 2020 2:16pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It means the son of Vasili (Basil)
    
    as Macdonald means the son of Donald.
    
    If you think I am Maggie Pie, think again…. or ask David Farrer.
    
    I post under my own name… Nothing else.
    
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    December 17, 2020 2:26pm
    - niggly
      
      Heh, I recall DG getting quite wound up a few months by Maggie Pie’s satire, so mentioned the latter in a reply to him (unsure how that went down as I didn’t check the responses at the time).
      
      Anyway “MP’s” satire is either really funny (vote up) or sometimes crosses the boundary (and when really naughty, vote down … I’m sure MP doesn’t mind as (s)he rolls with the punches)!
      
      I think the give away for MP’s recent (naughty) post about Sir Bob Jones is the fact that in the 1970’s Sir Bob was too busy running a business, supporting some of the most flamboyant and fabulous “LGBT personalities” of the time (well fancy that Ricardo Dimwit Turd!) and for his excellent billboards by the Basin Reserve that mocked the politicians of the day (so being a “student” would have been very most unlikely! But yeah MP sure crossed the boundary with that post)!
      
      Wouldn’t it be just awesome, in these PC gone mad times, if Sir Bob could resurrect these billboards and mock our current generation of “woke” politicians and wannabes! After all, why not, when the MSM won’t!
      
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      December 17, 2020 2:47pm
      - David Garrett
        
        niggly: So you think MP’s rather banal contributions – invariably mentioning “my partner” – are satirical? May I politely suggest you consult a good dictionary on the meaning of satire.
        
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        December 17, 2020 4:08pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      You are well documented and respected throughout NZ. A lot of our hidden commenters here would not have 1/10 of your standing.
      
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      December 17, 2020 6:29pm
- NoCash
  
  Yup, I suspected the same back in Aug 🙂
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/08/general_debate_17_august_2020.html#comment-2781273
  
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  December 17, 2020 3:32pm
- Harriet
  
  “…..I’d wager Maggie Pie is a man…..”
  
  You could put a lot on that maggie.
  
  There was a guy here years ago who posted all day and night, anyway he had a link to a website which had a picture of a bird on it…….and for a couple of years we ALL called him Mag Pie.
  
  He was a fuckwit – BUT – he was also bloody funny with responses……. much like Maggie Pie ALWAYS is!!!
  
  Nasska, Johnboy, Dime, Redbaiter….. would all remember him. Probably DG also as from memory he spoke to JB, Dime etc. often back in those times.
  
  It’s not me as I’ve only ever posted under this name. And under Field Marshal over at stuff years ago……mostly on John Minto’s old blog. 😎
  
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  December 17, 2020 4:00pm
- The Boss
  
  Maggie Pie the enigma.
  
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  December 18, 2020 9:51am
Albert_Ross

What a shame about that last sentence.

A person’s being fat and ugly has no relevance or bearing whatsoever, either positively or negatively, to the validity of their opinions or to the credibility of their claims.
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December 17, 2020 2:13pm
- theoldbloke
  
  You obviously are not a student of humour. Sir Bob rebutted her obvious slur/untruth with a slur/untruth? of his own.
  Its the way grown ups interact with the world.
  So stop being woke and just laugh. You will feel better.
  
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  December 17, 2020 3:16pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Rebutting a slur/untruth with another slur/untruth makes you just as bad as the person you are rebutting, so you’ve gained nothing.
    
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    December 17, 2020 4:17pm
    - C J Southern
      
      Stop digging.
      
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      December 17, 2020 4:42pm
- 453mm
  
  It is possible that the degree to which a person is fat and ugly affects the likelihood of someone else buying them a drink. And since this discussion is about the purchase of drinks, and by whom, I consider Sir Bob’s closing comment to be entirely relevant.
  
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  December 17, 2020 3:39pm
ronsegal

Sir Bob, darn, disappointed to discover that you are unable to advise on acquiring the skill of ‘made them pay for his drinks’.
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December 17, 2020 2:14pm
James Stephenson

I think this is probably a sign that Sir Bob has joined the pantheon of great characters to which stories and quotes attach themselves.

Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mark Twain…and Sir Bob Jones.
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December 17, 2020 2:14pm
Kimble

Today I learned that Bob Jones reads the KiwiBlog comments on posts about himself.

Hi Bob!
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December 17, 2020 2:17pm
- Swifty
  
  I used to pump petrol, vertically, downwards, into his twin-tank Jag(s) at Central Service Station on Jervois Quay in the mid 80s. The filling points were on top of both rear panels just behind the rear screen. I can’t recall whether he used to come in at the old site, where the Michael Fowler Centre is now, but he certainly did to the relocated site opposite ‘Robert Jones House’ I think it was called, or similar, regardless it was where he was based and the location of the Yangtze Restaurant.
  
  The Jag was tough to fill quickly, but without blowback/spillage as the tanks approach completely full. Always had a clean rag handy to quickly mop up and spills and hope like hell Sir Bob had shot inside to sign his account and didn’t notice. 🙂
  
  Always a good customer and never chatty.
  
  The old man’s partnership leased the third and fourth floors of Borthwick House on The Terrace off Sir Bob starting in the early 70s (from memory) and up until years or so ago (the old boy retired in 2000).
  
  He said the same; Bob/his firm good to deal with.
  
  Gudday Sir Bob!
  
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  December 17, 2020 2:56pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”and hope like hell Sir Bob had shot inside to sign his account and didn’t notice”…..
    
    Probably a good strategy Swifty. I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting Sir Robert but I’ve always followed his various efforts to wind-up officious wind-bags with interest.
    
    One would been his promotion of Carmen Rupe in the Wellington Mayoral campaign of 1977 which was a direct attack on the incumbent wankers of the City Council chambers.
    
    But best of all was his blazing row with a traffic cop on the Hutt Road in 1975. At the time I was chauffeuring livestock from the Wairarapa to the Ngauranga abattoir on a regular basis & being hassled mercilessly by the morons of the then Transport Dept. Their arrogance was unbelievable but abated a little after Sir Robert sued the wanker for unlawful detention.
    
    His willingness to fight unreasonable authoritarian attitudes endeared him to this humble ex truckie. 🙂
    
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    December 17, 2020 6:09pm
    - Swifty
      
      Yep, all very true nasska.
      
      Re any petrol spillages etc – let me just say that while we knew all the account holders very well there was a select few who we would never, ever address by their first name – unlike the great majority.
      
      It was always ‘Mr Jones.’
      
      You didn’t want to fuck with him.
      
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      December 17, 2020 8:31pm
    - Swifty
      
      And wasn’t it during Carmen’s mayoral campaign that her betrothal to Ron Brierley announced?
      
      Which he subsequently had to publicly refute?
      
      I think it was him.
      
      Heh. Classic.
      
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      December 17, 2020 8:39pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’ve posted this on KB before..
      The cop was my cousin Ken McLeod
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/456838/The-gentleman-cop-dies
      
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      December 17, 2020 8:49pm
      - nasska
        
        Fear not Maggy. I don’t hold you responsible for the actions or career choices of your distant relatives. 🙂
        
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        December 17, 2020 9:18pm
- Deadly pony
  
  Love you Bob!
  
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  December 17, 2020 5:32pm
lazza

Go Sir Bobby.

In the “fat and ugly” stakes at least you score 1 of 2.

And it aint for “fat”!
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December 17, 2020 2:31pm
Poppa

Thanks Bob for the bloody good laugh

By the way, I did actually cast a vote for you back in the day to rid us of Muldoon

Keep up the good work Bob
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December 17, 2020 2:34pm
- Mark
  
  First of all old Sir Robbity paid a huge role in getting the unattached isotope Piggy in getting elected in the first place .In doing so he eviscerated a bloody decent educated man Masters degree with first class honours in economics and a Fulbright scholar,Bill Rowling.I cannot help but think Bill scratched Sir Bobs inferiority complex ,I know he will not want to admit it now but in the 78 and 81 elections Bill got more votes than piggy.Quelle horreur.Thanks to sir Bob in 82 I was paying 66% tax on my top dollar.Thanks a bunch Bob.And now we come to quantatative easing and the printing of money and Reserve Bank credit ,topics on which Sir Bobby has waxed eloquent re the Social Credit party ( cause).I await with baited breath the farcical rebuttals fom Sir Bobbys sycophants.Or not.
  
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  December 17, 2020 2:56pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    That 62% was occasioned by the previous Labour govt starting a wage/price spiral. At least Muldoon stopped it.
    
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    December 17, 2020 6:34pm
    - Mark
      
      [Mod: deleted for excessive abuse of other posters.]
      
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      December 17, 2020 10:10pm
      - Mark
        
        Completley unfair I get abused up hill and down dale and I relish it ,fair to delete if comments are untrue but not if someone wants to sook it.You are getting more wimpy than Slater,I have been on here for 14 years and am apalled at the soft cock interference. Grow a set and let us have at it .
        
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        December 17, 2020 10:50pm
Michael Lorigan

I posted four years ago that the dyed blond bozzo who graced these shores in 1979 (?) and was given short shift by the late/great Paul Holmes when he breezed into town to do us a favour and buy the casino. My post suggested that he would provide us with free entertainment, and hasn’t he delivered.
The gift that kept on giving.
This new clown will provide us with similar fun but sadly for three years only. He will disappear into cloud cuckoo land from whence he came,
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December 17, 2020 2:51pm
Prince

I doubt Maggie Pie is a woman – from their posts I would bet on a 17 year old lad with few friends and a lot of time on their hands.
Bob was an acquaintance of mine in the 1970’s – not a drinker, nor a student. He worked hard and made some astute decisions. Good bloke.
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December 17, 2020 2:53pm
IC5000

Once again Sir Bob is doing gods work revealing the lies of cretins for what they are.
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December 17, 2020 2:55pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Do you think your Nieces have any idea the sort of things you get up in your spare time? 😛
  
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  December 17, 2020 6:51pm
  - IC5000
    
    Jealous are we? You’ll always have those memories of partying hard in the 80s.
    
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    December 17, 2020 7:39pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Look, I’m not saying you shouldn’t wear that Gimp mask.
      You just need to be careful you don’t swallow the billiard ball. OK?
      
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      December 17, 2020 8:16pm
      - IC5000
        
        Unfortunately I’ve had to retire the gimp mask this year as the 2021 Mardi Gras will not go ahead. In a way it’s such a relief not have to maintain 5% body fat. Probably not an issue you would ever have to deal with at your age.
        
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        December 17, 2020 8:39pm
BeaB

Not being blessed in the looks department himself, Bob Jones has always been obsessed with how others look. However, apart from that bit of petty meanness, he is spot on about Maggie Pie. For some reason she (?) seems to think her partner’s unpleasant opinions are so hilarious they should be shared with the rest of us. If she is a woman I’d prefer she used her own voice and her own opinions and stop relaying what others have said.
If we believe Bob Jones, and I do in this case, we should ignore not only what her vulgar partner supposedly says but also the unreliable memories of his mother.
What an unsavoury household they must be as they cook up their unappetising tales.
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December 17, 2020 3:06pm
- IC5000
  
  Looking at the dates is very interesting. As Sir Bob was a student in 1958 that makes him 19 yo. Let’s say the mother was about 20 at the time then she had a son at age 22 as was the fashion which puts maggies partners age at about 60. Maybe there is a 5 year gap between their age but most likely nothing dramatic.
  
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  December 17, 2020 8:10pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Honestly, you are such a cock head!
    
    Can’t you actually read anything?
    
    LOL
    
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    December 17, 2020 9:18pm
    - IC5000
      
      This puts you in a difficult position. You have to admit you are either a liar or 60 yo. What is the lessor of two evils?
      
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      December 17, 2020 10:50pm
Maggie Pie

Just back up from the pool and still dripping wet.
Surprised to come across Sir Bob’s most unexpected response…… LOL!!

Unfortunately, it seems poor old BJ must be suffering from failing eyesight, and after watching his recent appearance on television, very possibly a number of other maladies.

The one basic mistake Sir Bob has made when transposing my post, was that I did not say “…..when HE (sick) was a student”, but rather, the reference was to ‘my partner’s mum’ and reads “….when SHE was a student”. This of course changes the entire context of his reply.

Ma and the rest of the girls would all have been in their early 20’s at the time, thus putting BJ in his mid-thirties (?)
So you can see that he got the most basic of details wrong, rendering his response somewhat nonsensical.

As for wagering I’m ‘fat and ugly’, that would be akin to me wagering Sir Bob has completely lost his marbles.

(#BJ: Ma sends her fond regards and would love to catch up again sometime and buy you another beer 😛 )
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December 17, 2020 3:07pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It was very gracious of you not to point out to BJ than even an “illiterate” like you knows how to spell undoubtedly.
  
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  December 17, 2020 3:19pm
  - Martin Williams
    
    Nice work Maggie and Maggy. You put the senile old creep in his place.
    
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    December 17, 2020 6:12pm
    - notrotsky
      
      Shouldn’t you be over at the stranded sucking off goats (aka greg presland and Lynn prentice) agent mutton bird ?
      
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      December 18, 2020 1:47pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Yes I spotted that too Maggy, and Bob is very fond of rubbishing others’ spelling, grammar and general choice of words.
    
    He even adds a rather gratuitous (sic) to “My partners mum…” to highlight the missing apostrophe, yet he often mangles English himself. Pot, meet kettle.
    
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    December 18, 2020 5:59pm
- arkhad
  
  Plenty of money to be made today Maggie Pie. You have various ones betting on sex, attractiveness and weight – find your path through the middle and clean up. But do post your winnings please!
  
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  December 17, 2020 5:16pm
- Jaywalk
  
  Except you’re directly quoted in the response.
  
  Try again.
  
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  December 17, 2020 6:24pm
  - RJ
    
    Actually no he didn’t, bob jones changed the quote, what Maggie said was
    
    My partners mum knew Sir Bob when she was a student at Vic back in the 70’s. She was saying that whenever the girls approached BJ in a bar, he always made them pay for HIS drinks.
    
    You can go look at it, bob changed the she to he.
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/12/sir_bob_responds_to_ricardo_with_an_upper_cut.html
    
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    December 17, 2020 8:14pm
- pentwig
  
  Maggie Pie
  I absolutely love your humour.
  Please keep it up.
  Your partner is a lucky person.
  
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  December 17, 2020 9:29pm
- Stralis
  
  A little touch of semantics there, Maggie Pie. Obviously you are missing your YNZ blogging days. Bottom line – either your mum in law, or Sir Bob, are full of it.
  
  Good to hear Ma is in good health.?
  
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  December 18, 2020 4:14pm
JamesP

A bigger mystery is why Sir Bob bothered responding to a comedy account. “Maggie Pie” will be laughing her tits off. Talk about punching down.
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December 17, 2020 3:08pm
- David Garrett
  
  James P: I disagree. To claim – especially regarding a member of Sir Bob’s generation – that not only did they not “stand their round” but had women pay for their drinks is deeply insulting.
  
  I’m sure it’s all completely changed in this Brave New World we all live in, but back in the day there was very much an etiquette surrounding public (or student) bar behaviour. First and foremost, if you were in a drinking “school” you always paid your round when it was your turn. Second, any fighting took place outside – something Trevor Mallard clearly forgot. And even into the 70’s, there was no swearing when “ladies” were present.
  
  That is a somewhat long winded explanation as to why Sir Bob took umbrage at MP’s rather silly and clearly inaccurate comment.
  
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  December 17, 2020 4:24pm
  - Mike
    
    Sure, Bob Jones, well noted for respecting women.
    
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    December 17, 2020 6:19pm
  - RJ
    
    Sir bob’s generation… same generation as Sir Ron Brierley.
    
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    December 17, 2020 8:07pm
    - Pharmachick
      
      Disgusting throwing of unwarranted shade. SHAME ON YOU!
      
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      December 17, 2020 8:41pm
      - RJ
        
        No shade, just fact, you can’t claim his generation were any different than today’s. Hell I saw enough of his generation in the places my parents managed when I was a kid, no different than today’s lot.
        
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        December 17, 2020 8:58pm
  - RJ
    
    And since David is talking about Trevor mallards assault let’s got back in time to when bob jones left a journalist bleeding
    
    https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/eyewitness-news-bob-jones-punches-reporter-rod-vaughan-1985
    
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    December 17, 2020 9:04pm
    - David Garrett
      
      RJ: Mallard’s conviction is for fighting in parliament…you don’t see the difference between that, and Jones’ assault of Rod Vaughan?
      
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      December 18, 2020 9:07am
  - Mark
    
    Remind us again old fruit what Tau Henare alleged in parliament that got the Mallard so upset .Cmon you can do it ,please do not revert to form squire and bullshit.
    
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    December 17, 2020 10:37pm
snowy

The individual posting under the pseud “Maggie Pie” has previously stated that their partner is a member of Forest & Bird.

That can only mean Maggie Pie is a dude.
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December 17, 2020 3:23pm
potato

Now that’s classy- no I mean it really is
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December 17, 2020 3:25pm
giltee

This brought out the haters of Sir Bob with all the downticking. If you take any time to read about the man you’d have some respect for him. He didn’t exactly become a Sir by being a moron like the downtckers. Please don’t disappointment me the 3-4 Downtickers by not downticking my comment. Have a good day one and all
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December 17, 2020 3:44pm
- Mike
  
  He became Sir with one easy donation to the NZ Ballet.
  
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  December 17, 2020 6:17pm
C J Southern

Absolute. Fucking. Gold.

Think I’ll now go buy Sir Bob’s latest book on principle.
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December 17, 2020 4:39pm
- Aunty
  
  Speaking of Sir Rob’s books, does anyone know if his most weighty, insightful and intellectual tome “The First Twelve Months – The Achievements of The Third Labour Government”, is still available to buy? I would kill for a personally signed copy.
  
  It’s a prescient insight (and a very a fair and objective one too) into the ability, the workings and the outcomes of Labour Governments.
  
  It’s a thorough, well researched and cogently argued contribution to the political and economic literature on the analysis of New Zealand Labour. It’s a must-have for ALL libraries and should probably be a compulsory read for all first-year political science students.
  
  I was wondering if Sir Rob has thought about doing an update to his book to incorporate the achievements of the current 5th Labour Government? I think a chapter on Phil Twyford, for example, would lend itself very well to the book and would be of immense value to future historians who may wish to study the events of our times?
  
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  December 17, 2020 5:25pm
  - C J Southern
    
    “I was wondering if Sir Rob has thought about doing an update to his book to incorporate the achievements of the current 5th Labour Government?”
    
    Not sure what Sir Bob has planned, but I’ve already heard there’s a book out titled “Documenting the Success of the 5th Labour Government”.
    
    Apparantly it has 500 pages. All of them marked “intentionally left blank”.
    
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    December 17, 2020 10:18pm
- Positan
  
  They’re four good stories – the best one, the last.
  
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  December 17, 2020 6:03pm
Vallager

I think we’d all be interested to know what Maggie Pie’s partner has to say on the subject
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December 17, 2020 4:42pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  LOL!
  
  He txt me from the boat about 10 minutes ago to say…
  “Geez hun – its unbelievable how all the losers get so triggered by your comments”
  xx
  
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  December 17, 2020 5:43pm
fredonas

I can believe that Sir Robert didn’t frequent pubs (or bars) preferring restaurants instead perhaps, but I note that the photo on the cover of “Memories of Muldoon” (1997) taken at the launch of “Jones on Property” (1977) and also in the photo within the same tome taken at the launch of “The First Twelve Months” (1974) he is holding a wine glass. A semi full wine glass in the case of the latter photo. So the not a “regular imbiber” claim may be called into question. I say this in a caring way and in the context of not being in any position to judge anybody on this matter 🙂 https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/engage/cup/catalogue/books/memories-of-muldoon.html
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