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CJames

The three men murdered by the “lone wolf” terrorist in Reading UK were all gay. Why do you think this fact was left out of all the news reports? Or does the media think that the victims just happened to be chosen at random? Evidently, one of those killed was big in the local BLM campaigns, so they weren’t rightwing provocateurs. Can you imagine the same non-reporting happening if the murderer was wearing a Union flag waistcoat or a MAGA hat? Has the hierarchy of victimhood been revised that much so gay white men are below homophobic Islamist killers?
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June 25, 2020 8:00am
- Simon
  
  He was a regular cannabis user as well. Cannabis is the drug of choice for so many of these hyper violent mental basket cases.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:18am
  - Two bob
    
    yup overlay rioting states in the USA with legal weed/pot shop states and it paints a clear picture.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:48am
    - kowtow
      
      If the picture paints one word , it’s Democrat.
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:47am
      - Two bob
        
        yup demoacrats that are high on legal mind dulling drugs.
        
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        June 25, 2020 2:13pm
  - YesMinister
    
    There are many things you could pin violent outbursts on. Religious indoctrination, cultural programming of intense hatred being two of them. Usually when gay people are attacked it is by a person who is trying and failing to repress their gayness.
    
    But it is the height of smug nonsense to point the finger at cannabis. Cannabis is not linked to violence, as anybody who has ever been within a country mile of it knows.
    
    As for the person below blaming the riots on cannabis, correlation is not causation. You may have heard of a chap named Floyd.
    
    Honestly, sometimes conservatives are even more outlandishly ridiculous than liberals. The problem with the world today is that both sides have started to embody their caricatures.
    
    Conservatives: greedy grandma selling killjoys who feel a bizarre need to police what other people do with their own consciousness.
    
    Liberals: lazy buggers who expect everything for free, and take no responsibility for anything.
    
    It’s just utterly illogical that you can look at a homophobia based attack and spin around to point at the nearest bit of fun you can find. Unlike cannabis, alcohol is actually linked to violence very, very strongly, and is the cause of most NZ’s domestic violence, but I bet we’re not going to be able to pry your daily drinkies out of your sweaty clawed hands.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:47am
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      “Cannabis is not linked to violence, as anybody who has ever been within a country mile of it knows.”
      
      I get within country inches of it in my profession repeatedly – and you’re completely absent of reasoning and evidence in your allegations.
      
      As for clawed sweaty hands – put down the mirror carefully and back away now, there’s a good chap.
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:08am
    - Simon
      
      “Cannabis is not linked to violence, as anybody who has ever been within a country mile of it knows.”
      
      Lol so out of touch. There are numerous studies linking stoners to violence.
      
      This is just this month:
      
      A large study just published by a team from Montreal University in Canada has found that people who regularly smoke cannabis are almost three times more likely to commit a violent offence as those who abstain from the drug.
      
      The study found that over time, prolonged cannabis use profoundly alters the brain, making the user less able to control their temper, and that addicts may also suffer from withdrawal symptoms, making them irritable and prone to lashing out.
      
      https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE2006/S00040/todays-cannabis-linked-to-violence-new-study.htm
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:56am
    - Two bob
      
      the homophobic attack was likely religion based, I was refering to the riot comment reply to the OP.
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:50pm
    - quarterpack
      
      I have known several heavy dope smokers to turn from poodle to paranoid pit bull in under half a second, and combined with just a couple of drinks.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:26pm
      - Two bob
        
        dont even need a drink, the new high potency pot and near pure concentrates do it all on their own.
        extreme paranoia and anxiety is very common nowdays with weed, truly mind altering smoke compared to 5-10 yrs ago.
        
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        June 25, 2020 11:48pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Maybe the hyper violent mental basket cases are trying to self-medicate with cannabis?
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:57am
  - Joe Kerr
    
    To blame cannabis is laughable when alcohol is the most common link in violent offenders, and pedophiles too.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:15am
- hullkiwi
  
  It was on the TV news on Tuesday night that the victims were gay.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:32am
  - burt
    
    Calling someone by the wrong pronoun is a crime if you are either male, white or Christian. Killing gay people is “nothing to see here” when it’s done by Muslims. How did we get to this position?
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:23am
- burt
  
  It was obvious the terrorist was Muslim within 2 hours of the event when there was no mention of his ethnicity or ideology. If the guy had been white we’d have been bombarded by how shocking the white supremacists are and how their violence is unacceptable.
  
  How many days did it take to find out that the munter was a sky fairy worshiping follower of a man glorified for owning slaves and marrying a 9 year old?
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:01am
  - igm
    
    Well clarified Burt. Be careful you will be reported and put under observation . . . seems the left hate truth per se’!
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:12am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The reports will say that he was a “good boy” who suffered from mental health issues.
    
    Nothing to see here. Move along.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:20am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      It was reported within a day that he was a 25-year old Libyan who “had suffered PTSD from the civil war there.”
      
      Witnesses said he mumbled some unintelligible words before attacking people, I’m going to take a guess and say it might’ve been allahu akbar.
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:39am
- bartybart
  
  he’ll be let out to do more stabbing in a year or so after some expensive jihad rehab
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:10am
  - Justitia
    
    Golf lessons perhaps?
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:19pm
- Aunty
  
  He’s probably a self-loathing closet homo himself. Many of the more obsessed about it types typically are. Most normal people don’t care and have about as much interest in the gender that someone else sleeps with as they do about what they have on their toast in the morning.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:33am
  - Swifty
    
    A lot of them are.
    
    Quite common, I read, in societies where men and women are separated, pre-marital sex is a crime, adultery is often a capital offence, sex education is non-existent at home or in schools, women are required to get about completely covered etc etc
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:03am
  - Two bob
    
    alot of the muslim countries most males 1st sexual exp is with another male, lots of closet gays/bi… certainly wouldnt want to get found out in those countries thats for sure.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:51pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Douglas Murray explains how even the gay press in the UK were overlooking/downplaying this fact.
  
  Seems that they will get enraged when white homophobic neo-nazis attack their community but go very quiet when the attack is from one of the oppressed minorities.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX8u9-asJpA
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:32am
  - CJames
    
    Yes Maggy, it was an article by Douglas in the Spectator that I picked up on it from. But then Douglas is persona non grata in the alphabet soup woke types. As Titania McGrath pointed out, he isn’t gay, he just is a man who has sex with other men.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:55am
  - Swifty
    
    Love Douglas.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:22am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  Color and Islam definitely pre-empt whiteness and gayness. So it is written in the anals (not a typo) of the self-hating.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:50am
CJames

Yet another failed Labour MP fails in her local government job. And to get around her incompetence, she wanted the Minister to close the council down. https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/121926259/embattled-otago-regional-council-chairwomans-last-stand Why are we not surprised?
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June 25, 2020 8:00am
- igm
  
  Was she not another lefty who attempted to rort taxpayers by falsely claiming rent when not entitled, along with Bunkle? Real honest people these socialists when in positions of control.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:17am
  - kowtow
    
    If anyone doubted we had a Permanent Political Class Elite in Aotearoa formerly New Zealand these washed up politicians who float from national to local politics or onto the huge number of taxpayer funded entities are proof thereof . There’s an awful lot of them.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:41am
  - chukar
    
    Note that the coven is nigh on completed with the minister of Conservation who has a similar track record with E Can.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:35am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Wasn’t Bill English into this sort of thing? Renting a house off his family trust and being reimbursed because because his residence was Dipton. But wife was a Welly medic and children all lived in Welly …..
    
    Glass houses and all that.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:06am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      He checked w/ Parliamentart Services…they said it was ok.
      
      When the rules were clarified..Mr English paid it all back promptly.
      
      Boag by name…bogus by nature it seems…
      
      Keep trying Ian …its amusing watching you flounder about
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:38am
    - igm
      
      Bill English did what he was told by Parliamentary Services re housing allowances. He did not set out to defraud taxpayers as did Bunkle and Hobbs.
      He admitted mistake immediately, not trying to cover anything up.
      Yours is the typical Labour reply, not unlike that of a nasty little nark!
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:42am
    - mark15
      
      Are you related to Maxine?
      
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      June 25, 2020 12:59pm
    - burt
      
      Ian Boag
      
      So it’s a juvenile “they did it too” from you.
      
      Gee, how awesome it must be to think that National were the worst government ever but Labour are so much better because they are only as bad as National when they could have been worse.
      
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      June 25, 2020 3:16pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    There is definitely a trend for parliamentarians And other wannabes who fail to proceed as they planned on the Beehive stage, to fall back and make ratepayers’ lives hell. See also Auckland and Wanganui.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:51am
    - Roy
      
      Dont forget ex MP Baldock.
      Just got dumped as Tauranga Deputy Mayor by vote of Council.
      Seems he thought he was in charge and didnt need to consult(Via the Puppet Mayor)
      
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      June 25, 2020 12:56pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  Shes yet another on the long list of governance incompetence. She wouldnt know a good governance principle if she tripped over one.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:18am
  - sooty
    
    Typical failing laborite, falling back on bulling to save her job!
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:05pm
- 3-coil
  
  CJames – to quote Marion Hobbs‘ own words, she’s now “too old, and too stressed” to be able to do her job. Lol! Like all trougher Labour Ministers, she was NEVER able to do her job!
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:52am
CJames

Yesterday’s parliamentary questions show how rattled the PM is becoming. In answer to a question from the Opposition Leader, she put down one expert “ I understand Professor Gorman is an expert in occupational health at Auckland University rather than an epidemiologist. “ but then quoted her fangirl “ I note Auckland University infectious disease specialist Dr Siouxsie Wiles said the chances of someone leading to community infection “ who is only a lecturer and also isn’t an epidemiologist. But then when Professor Michael Baker was quoted, she changed her tone. What happens when you aren’t on top of the subject and get trumped.
The meltdown can’t be far away.
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June 25, 2020 8:01am
- Clyde
  
  I too noticed the put down of Prof Gorman and the pat on the head for the pink-haired zealot. Basic discrediting technique. I have no idea why this Wiles character receives so much oxygen from the MSM – maybe for her gushing style and sense of self promotion.
  
  What I’d love to hear more detail on from good questioning by Muller is the guts behind this East Polynesian occupation of the land in Auckland. If Winston Peters has scuttled it then GOOD ON HIM. Why no investigative reporting on the rabble leaders involved in this occupation? What jobs do they have, or are we all paying for their lying around doing nothing?
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:11am
  - cmm
    
    Good on him? He’s the prick that saddled us with this mob and now you’re thanking him for saving us from them.
    
    Analogy: Winston pushes you into a river then helps you get out. Do you thank him for saving your life?
    
    He is an enabler, not a saviour. His enabling of them is beneficial to them, but, more importantly, beneficial to him.
    
    Any time he chooses he could walk away from this mob and bring them down.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:15am
    - Flossie
      
      Wouldn’t be a very smart move with their standings in the polls – both Labour and NZ First.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:29am
      - oldfella
        
        TV1 has a new opinion poll out at 6pm tonight with people polled as late as yesterday.
        Could be interesting.
        
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        June 25, 2020 10:25am
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        Yeah, but sometimes the right thing to do is not the smart thing. But it’s still the right thing. When his BAC permits, he must sometimes wonder what his legacy will be. I could tell him if he asks…
        
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        June 25, 2020 1:49pm
    - The Boss
      
      cmm: And I have a weird feeling that Winston is planning to do just that. Pulling down the pillars of this government and forcing an early election, before the SFO comes out with their assessment. He knows he is toast and will go for broke now.
      
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      June 25, 2020 1:18pm
- harvey wilson
  
  Why does anyone care what Wiles thinks? She’s politically compromised which is a terrible thing for a scientist to be .
  
  Also , her name is the equivalent of a woman called Marie calling herself Maoree . Why is this considered acceptable?
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:12am
  - lifesgood
    
    She’s gets oxygen because she is Jacinda’s major fangirl. They are BFFs. The pot smoking luvvies who hang out around the cafes of Ponsonby and Grey Lynn love her to bits. The same people who call their babies River and Starlight and all those cutesie, wootsie names, like Siouxsie. She is a disgrace to that once proud, respected University.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:45am
    - fernglas
      
      W
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:50am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Like many she’s no epidemiologist. The standard of stats displayed is appalling. Honesty and judgement are lacking. (Meets the PM’s standards.)
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:01am
  - cmm
    
    Her name is just for “look at me” edgy points – along with the KoolAid hair. It helps get her attention and funding.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:16am
    - Swifty
      
      Yes, I understand that she gave that name to herself – not her parents who went with something far more pedestrian.
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:00am
    - 3-coil
      
      cmm – another privileged entitled post-colonial white female using a culturally appropriated (and bastardised) name, stolen from the oppressed First Nations tribe in North America. Disappointing.
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:22am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      And credibility to a certain sector of society
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:46am
    - Fletch
      
      As a guy posted on Twitter a few years back (and was castigated for) –
      
      Unnatural hair colors in [a] woman are a warning signal to stay away,
      Its an example Aposematism-the phenomenon of poisonous animals in nature advertising their toxicity and lethality
      
      Animals like Poison arrow frogs, venomous snakes, they have bright colors and it lets other animals know to stay away from messing with them
      
      When you see a woman with red blue green purple rainbow hair, its a sign of mental illness and derangement
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:48am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    SFNS Silly first name syndrome
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:20am
  - Komata
    
    HarveyW@0812
    
    Re: ‘Why does anyone care what Wiles thinks?’
    
    Why? Because she’s ‘cute’ (Pink hair and all) and she suits the narrative being promoted by the SLG and her media mates.
    
    On that basis, what is there not to like, so why not use her to the fullest-extent possible?
    
    Financially, I’m sure that she is being well provided-for.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:47am
    - sooty
      
      Wonder who’s providing it?
      
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      June 25, 2020 12:10pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        We are..
        
        Universities are funded in the main by the taxpayer.
        Most science & medical research grant money is from the taxpayer.
        https://www.universitiesnz.ac.nz/about-university-sector/how-nz-universities-are-funded
        
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        June 25, 2020 1:41pm
  - cmm
    
    She quotes Wiles and the 80,000 will die guy – Shaun Hendy – because they say stuff that makes her look good.
    
    Why is it a terrible position to be in? These academics belong to research centres etc that compete for government (taxpayer) money. If they show which side they are on they are more likely to get the funding.
    
    It is the same with just about everyone trying to hook their research area to Climate Change.
    
    Make yourself politically useful and you secure funding. Easy peasy.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:50am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Siouxie has its origins in Hebrew.
    Sioux is the French- Canadian / English spelling of the Great Plains Indian Tribe.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:09am
    - geoff3012
      
      Sounds like she’s a good mate of Elizabeth Warren
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:49am
    - Fletch
      
      It’s just someone’s cute idea of a different way of spelling Susie. The other day I saw a name badge of someone called ‘Emileigh’. It’s just parents trying to be smart.
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:54am
    - CJames
      
      But was that the name on her birth certificate, or did she change it later on?
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:56am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Susanna Wiles
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siouxsie_Wiles
        
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        June 25, 2020 11:46am
      - sooty
        
        I would have spelt it Suckz.
        
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        June 25, 2020 12:11pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Henceforth she shall be known as Susanna. Can’t agree with cultural appropriation now, can we?
        
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        June 25, 2020 2:43pm
  - The Boss
    
    harvey: Wiles is as woke as you can get. Is she also on Labour’s list?
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:21pm
- JibberJabber
  
  The best use of the term ‘political scientist’ you will ever see.
  
  https://twitter.com/damienmgrant/status/1275720274386784262
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:30am
- alex Masterley
  
  Unlike the Prime Minister, Prof Des Gorman knows what he is talking about. Having said that so does Siouxie Wiles but only in her area of expertise.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:35am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Which is why she was holding forth about bringing in UBI right? No political biases on display there.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:09am
- burt
  
  Good leaders give the credit for getting things done to their team and take the responsibility for failures themselves. The exact opposite of what we are seeing from Labour.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:03am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    More than anything this Covid-19 debacle shows that Jacinda Ardern has never led anything in her life or taken responsibility for decisions.
    
    I’d rather have the Captain of a tiddlywinks team running the ship than our Captain Schettino.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:15am
    - oldfella
      
      Which is pretty much what confirmed leftie Chris Trotter said this morning on the AM Show.
      Cindy has not managerial experience, and it shows.
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:28am
      - oldfella
        
        Trotter covered the same ground in his blog a few days ago. Including this hopeful cry…
        — So, get to it, Jacinda. Strap some steel around those clay ankles of yours. Shut this omnishambles down. Change the conversation. And, for Christ’s sake – for all our sakes – win the bloody election!
        http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2020/06/can-labour-still-win.html
        
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        June 25, 2020 12:41pm
  - Ruawai
    
    And good leaders create a capable team around them, not the omnishambles she has. Davis, Clark, Twyford etc
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:48am
Mike

Happy World Vitiligo Day!
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June 25, 2020 8:05am
- Random T Person
  
  Well colour me surprised! Or piebald, I suppose. A good day to you Sir.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:42am
  - Pharmachick
    
    Bonus points for horse analogy.
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:50pm
    - Random T Person
      
      I’ll take ’em and add to the trophy received from Batman.
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:52pm
Tony Stuart

If David Clark’s treatment of Ashley Bloomfield yesterday was the final straw for you, you might like to add your name to this petition:

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/david_clark
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June 25, 2020 8:08am
- pdm
  
  Aready done.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:14am
- Justitia
  
  No Tony, this is so wrong. David Clark is the Opposition’s greatest weapon. The public disgust he has generated is an incredibly valuable resource that will corrode this crap government’s reputation by the hour. Clark must stay!
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:21am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    It’s a win/win situation Justitia. If he goes, that’s a fantastic scalp for the Opposition. If he stays, he continues to bring down the government’s credibility, and when Jacinda loses in September, she will regret not sacking him in April, or even now.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:38am
    - Gravelroad
      
      But St Jacinda will never lose, Tony Stuart.
      And, in the unlikely event that the CoL is voted out, it will never be her fault.
      I think the CoL has been an absolute disaster for New Zealand, but the cards are still stacked in their favour because so many people are now reliant on the state for subsidies, handout benefits and “kindness”.
      All the CoL propaganda spinners need to say during the election campaign is that they will keep this going for the foreseeable future and imply that a National Government would put universal financial support at risk.
      We now have thousands of extra people coming back to NZ. They will all be looking for jobs, housing, health and education subsidies and various other forms of help.
      How this will will be paid for I have no idea, but the CoL will find a way to buy their votes.
      That’s the reality of it.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:08am
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        The sad part of Gravelroad’s comment is that it is 100% correct.
        
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        June 25, 2020 10:19am
    - cmm
      
      Scalping is like sledging. It is a beltway sandpit issue.
      
      To the average voter it all just looks childish.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:18am
    - Nickc2
      
      I think Cindy’s a bit worried he may write a book before the next election.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:44am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    There needs to be calls for his head, but preferably not enough to actually take him out. That way he corodes Jacinda’s reputation as well.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:45am
- alex Masterley
  
  Minister Clark once again demonstrated to us all what a complete noddy he is.
  Like Minister Twyford he is completely unsuited to the role of a Minister of the Crown or Minister of anything for that matter.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:31am
  - Two bob
    
    if he stays on the govt are going to have to buy alot more buses for clarke to throw ppl under.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:33am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    It’s even worse that this kind of bhaviour is coming from an ordained Minister of Religion. Clark is not a good advertisement for Christianity.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:39am
    - Random T Person
      
      To be fair, most Christians are poor adverts for Christianity.
      
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      June 25, 2020 8:42am
    - mandk
      
      My thoughts, too.
      
      He really is an extremely nasty piece of work
      
      He also revealed himself to be dishonest in pursuit of political gain when he continued to spread the sewage running down the walls at Middlemore lie, even after the DHB had explicitly stated it was not true.
      
      Has he sold his soul?
      
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      June 25, 2020 8:45am
    - Steve Todd
      
      Clark is not a good advertisement for Christianity.
      
      Very few Christians are, Tony.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:21am
    - Simon
      
      “Clark is not a good advertisement for Christianity.”
      
      Lol. The chances that Clark believes the teachings of our Lord and Saviour is very remote.
      
      The left have a cult belief with all their might with Gods of the Earth.
      
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      June 25, 2020 9:30am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Clark, this is guy that got sacked from running a Sunday School, yes?
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  At last the story is out on Stuff
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300041875/david-clark-throws-ashley-bloomfield-under-the-bus-while-bloomfield-looks-on
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:00am
  - RJ
    
    Forgive them Maggy, they are now owner operated so worse than ever.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:44am
  - rangitoto
    
    Terrible of Clark to behave like that when Jacinda said “be kind”. Don’t be a David.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:05am
  - Ruawai
    
    David Clark reminds me of Captain Darling in Black Adder Goes Fourth.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:53am
  - mark15
    
    It reminds me of when Greg O’connor criticized dear leader.
    
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    June 25, 2020 2:31pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  Signed. Ashley Bloomfield is extremely popular (like Jacinda) with the general public. David Clark is not. It will be interesting if there is a bit of a public back lash over this.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:02am
- niggly
  
  You can tell things are dire for “Dr” Clark when even the tribal lefties on Twitter are calling for his resignation over his disgraceful behavior yesterday.
  
  This also isn’t boding well for the Prime Minister because she continues to protect “Dr” Clark (and should have removed him from the Health portfolio months ago). How long before even tribal lefties start asking these questions of her “leadership” abilities?
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Already done
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:22am
- Simon
  
  Bloomfield eh? He was swimming in the Labour Party sewage pond. It was just a matter of time before he got infected.
  
  If Bloomfield had been a senior Labour Party insider accused of rape he would be fine.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:23am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Let’s not forget Bloomfield threw thousands of nurses and doctors under the bus when he said* that medical institutional racism was the reason for poor Maori health outcomes. So, no tears. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
    
    *Stuffed, Jul 02, 2019.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Starting to wonder if Clark throwing Bloomfield under the bus is instigated by the PTPM. She does not have the balls to do it, and it puts Clark back onside with her.
  Paraphrased “do it or you’re going for a holiday”
  Jacinda is not a nice person behind the scenes
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:26am
  - david
    
    Steve Otto, you have a point there. The PM has been doing a soft shoe shuffle in an effort to put some distance between herself and Dr Bloomfield for a couple of days now. This tells me that the red dot was on his forehead by plan rather than co-incidence.
    
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    June 25, 2020 2:35pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Couple of weeks.
      
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      June 25, 2020 3:22pm
  - mark15
    
    Ask Greg O’connor.
    
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    June 25, 2020 2:40pm
- SmokerGuy
  
  Appalling, yes he made mistakes but to publicly castigate the guy like that is disgraceful especially when you are as shit at your job as he is.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:30am
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Transformational Government “can barely deliver a letter”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/06/duncan-garner-jacinda-ardern-s-big-promises-have-failed-spectacularly.html
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June 25, 2020 8:08am
- Two bob
  
  theyve certainly been transformational, the CoL transformed a competent govt into one of the most incompetent! They may as well set up a big top next to the rippoff slide and let the circus music boom.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:24am
  - oldfella
    
    According to that sycophantic children’s book that came our recently about Cindy, she grew up wanting to be a clown.
    How wonderful that she has finally realised her dream!
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:34am
- Simon
  
  The rail project called off due to the cost of Phil Twyford. Nothing else.
  
  People in power must look at Phil Twyford and just go we just cant afford his incompetence.
  
  Phil Twyford is the human equivalent of Chernobyl. A massive crater which just spews out incompetence. So there is now a huge cement casing around him to prevent further much worse damage.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:40am
- hullkiwi
  
  Maggy, Duncan has gone full nuclear this morning – even Ruby Lips has managed a dig. Give him two minutes and he is in full attack.
  
  Even in the 7.10 discussion with Trotter and Sherson, Trotter kicked Jacinda and her teams (oops a mistake, she hasn’t got a team, she has her chosen bubble that didn’t include Clark).
  
  Both Sherson and Trotter agreed that the election could now go either way. This indicates the past two weeks has been a gift to National. With the media beginning to kick Labour – the CoL are going to be frightened of making mistakes and they will start to making decisions etc and will look like “possums caught in the headlights”.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:43am
  - Flossie
    
    I was taken aback to hear Trotter criticize this government – even Ms Adern a little bit! Taken aback, but also delighted.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:44am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Trotter has often been critical. He still waits for the chosen one who will do socialism right next time.
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:28am
    - burt
      
      I was taken aback to hear Trotter criticize this government
      
      Trotter always wheels out a few critical articles in the 3-6 months prior to the election. If you read them carefully his word-smith pedigree shows up clearly. They always start with a hammer blow of critique and always end with a positive light of how they can ( and will) do better.
      
      Seriously, he does this every election – it’s tripe really but his readers are too dim to not be taken in by the spin and far to dim to remember they’ve seen this pattern from him before.
      
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      June 25, 2020 3:25pm
  - Prince
    
    TV One poll out tonight but I’m afraid it wont be great news for national.
    My guess – Muller not getting cut through, Ardern still popular. Act up, Greens up. Maybe 5 point swing in favour of the right, but they need a lot more.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:49am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      What about NZF – up or down?
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:34am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Bear in mind Prince that Colmar Brunton polled right up to last night. My guess is that Labour will be down to around 50%, and the Nats up to mid-30’s.
      
      To be honest, that’s a pretty good base for National entering an election campaign when the quarantine system has been exposed as next to useless, the economy has tanked and will tank even further, and divisions within the coalition are now out in the open.
      
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      June 25, 2020 12:40pm
- Flossie
  
  Is this government also walking back its First Year Fee Free policy? Or have I got it wrong?
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:09am
- CBR600
  
  Oops downtick in error!
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:21am
harvey wilson

For those who haven’t seen it , the guy who was breaking lockdown during a pandemic while he was “guarding the bee” inDunefin throwing the guy who did his job for him under the bus

https://mobile.twitter.com/TovaOBrien/status/1275684416975777793

The level of accountability and ability from Labour’s cabinet during Arderns reign of error summed up in one short video clip .
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June 25, 2020 8:10am
- niggly
  
  There are two appalling aspects to this that shames Labour big time.
  
  1. The hardworking, knowledgeable and capable Dr Bloomfield being thrown under the Labour Party bus by a lazy, brainless and incompetent so-called joke of a Health Minister (who also has the audacity to have himself referred to as “Dr” Clark).
  
  2. Dr Bloomfield being let done by Labour and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern for failing to front up these media conferences at Dr Bloomfield’s side.
  
  This is a typical, cynical, pre-planned Labour Party behavior … put up the PM to the media when it is “good news” situations – but hide her when it is “bad news” situations so that her “image” isn’t tainted, and leave Dr Bloomfield to front foot the media scrum.
  
  Yet again another leadership fail for Jacinda Ardern and the NZLP. Could you ever imagine the likes of John Key and Bill English leaving their officials to face the media on their own, day after day? Of course not, Key and English had integrity and would be there fronting the media (and taking their hits).
  
  Just despicable Jacinda, Robbo and Labour – hang your heads in shame!
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:53am
- Two bob
  
  the look on bloomfields face said it all, hes bottling up a fair bit of anger at the disloyalty shown by david and jacinda. fingers crossed he blows 1 day soon and spills the beans, angering and enemy is normal angering someone on your own team is dangerous. karma is a bitch
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:55am
- MT_Tinman
  
  To be honest the public servant has been fronting a political cause for weeks (if not months).
  
  I have no sympathy.
  
  The only honest and responsible course of action for anyone involved in the current virus reaction shambles is all involved, particularly politically, to resign.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:01am
All_on_Red

In the Flynn case, the Columbia District Appeals Court has granted Flynn his Writ of Mandamus and ordered the Judge in his case to dismiss his Amicae brief and DISMISS THE CHARGES AGAINST FLYNN

In other news, evidence has been discovered by DOJ Investigator Jensen of ‘notes’ written by corrupt and disgraced ex Agent Peter Strozyk.
These ‘notes’ implicating, wait for it, Obama, Rice, Comey, Yates and Rice as being involved in setting up General Flynn.

No doubt Batman will be along to claim the Appeals Court Judges are corrupt and paid off by Russia Russia Russia
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Hahahahaha
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June 25, 2020 8:10am
- Simon
  
  Obama was always using FBI to spy on political opposition and sometimes use FBI to run fake prosecutions. Just surprised there is a smoking gun.
  
  Biden up to his neck as well and lied about it recently. Well as they say Biden might have genuinely forgot about it because he is senile.
  
  It just goes from bad to worse for all the TDS Russian truthers out there.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:28am
- Frank Hematuria
  
  This would be the same Flynn who twice pleaded guilty before changing his mind? That Flynn for whom the Trump-appointed AG Barr made an unprecedented intervention in the proceedings? That Flynn who now has the very good fortune to have a Trump and a Bush appointee as two of the three Judges on the appellate panel? Seems to me more like a political system than a justice system in play here.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:59am
  - Mike
    
    Correct. Decision is transparently a shoddy partisan one, and could be reversed by the full DC Court.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:15am
    - Ed Snack
      
      The original prosecution was not just shoddy and partisan, but full on prosecutorial abuse.
      
      How should the DOJ respond to such abuse, sweep it under the carpet and pretend it never happened ? Is that what you are suggesting ?
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:25am
  - All_on_Red
    
    If you think that Frank, then you know nothing of what has transpired.
    Ignorance is bliss I guess.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:31am
  - Fletch
    
    Flynn was set up. His only crime was “lying” to the FBI – eg, they caught him out on a minor fact that he probably couldn’t remember. In handwritten notes they talked about trying to entrap him.
    
    The notes were taken in January 2017, following a meeting with former FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, according to Fox News.
    
    Priestap’s handwritten remarks were taken down on the heels of a critical interview with the newly installed national security adviser regarding Flynn’s contacts weeks earlier with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
    
    “What’s our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?” Priestap wrote. “If we get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act, give facts to DOJ & have them decide. Or, if he initially lies, then we present him [redacted] & he admits it, document for DOJ, & let them decide how to address it.”
    
    They also threatened his family – talked about going after his kids. It’s telling that the FBI dropped all charges against him, finding no case, yet the next day Obama, Biden, Comey, Rice et al were in Obama’s office trying to cobble together charges against him, even using the antique Logan Act (which Biden brought up in the meeting). Very telling that Sztrok’s notes mention Comey saying to Obama that Flynn’s conversations with the Russian Ambassador “Appear Legit”.
    
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/comey-told-obama-that-flynns-conversations-with-russian-ambassador-appear-legit-according-to-strzok-notes/
    
    As I said, worse than Watergate. The FBI had already closed the case on Flynn but these guys right at the top were conspiring against him because they knew he’d find out what they’d been up to in their spying etc (which they would have been able to get away with if Hillary had won).
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:02am
    - Nickc2
      
      Agree Fletch. I also think the cabal present in Obama’s oval office when plotting the downfall of Flynn are now trying everything to hold out until after the next election hoping Biden will win and all will be forgotten/forgiven by the Dems.
      They kind of make our Labour Party and all associated with them appear as saints.
      
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      June 25, 2020 12:01pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    He was trying to minimize the fallout to his family as you well know. When you’re about to get steamrollered by corrupt Government flunkies you try to get your wife and kids out of the way. Get the hematuria treated, Frankie, the clots in your tubes aren’t helping clarity of thought 🙂
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:17am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Ignorance is bliss, and any prosecutorial tactic is acceptable as long as you hate the one being accused eh Frank ?
    
    Why did Flynn plead guilty, could it have been that he was running out of money to defend himself (had to sell his house and had spend well over US$1M already, prosecutor had threatened to charge his son – and illegally concealed said threat and agreement not to charge if Flynn himself pleaded guilty from the judge. When the corrupt state comes for you, really you have no protection, you can take your chance on a long sentence (and your family being charged), or you cop a plea deal.
    
    But it must be disconcerting to find that the latest set of notes discovered by the DOJ shows that it was Biden who brought up the Logan Act, and that Obama seems to have ordered the persecution.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:23am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘Any appellate decision taking unprecedented measures to stop “irreparable harms” and “irregular” conduct is newsworthy. However, those admonishments were not describing Flynn’s conduct but that of his trial judge, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan. The D.C. Circuit panel took the exceptionally rare step of ordering Sullivan to stop further proceedings and dismiss the case to avoid further damage caused by his prior orders.’
  More here
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/24/dismissal-michael-flynn-case-result-judge-emmet-sullivans-injustice-column/3250896001/
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:10am
  - Frank Hematuria
    
    Ah, so just a couple of Judges higher up in the politicised judicial hierarchy pissed of with one lower down. Right, got it.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:09am
    - All_on_Red
      
      No
      You haven’t got it.
      But nice conspiracy and corruption theory.
      Tin foil hat too tight today?
      Lol
      
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      June 25, 2020 10:32am
      - Frank Hematuria
        
        So, dear Red, you start with a conspiracy theory that Flynn was royally stitched up and now it’s me with the tin foil hat? Well I’ll be buggered. By the way, I lived and worked in Washington DC for nearly 10 years, I have more than a rough idea how the place works.
        
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        June 25, 2020 10:52am
      - Mike
        
        You are the one advancing the conspiracy and corruption theories: that Flynn was somehow tricked into pleading guilty and, wait for it ‘Obama, Rice, Comey, Yates and Rice’ are all implicated.
        Couldn’t you work Comet Pizza into it as well?
        
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        June 25, 2020 11:13am
Maggy Wassilieff

Congratulations Golriz Ghahramen

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300041853/bizarre-scenes-as-parliament-legalises-prisoner-voting
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June 25, 2020 8:11am
- pdm
  
  That is what happens when you are poorly prepared and put forward crap legislation.
  
  Angry Andy trying to out Twyford – Twyford.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:15am
- mark15
  
  They need all the help they can get,even from criminals.
  Disgusting.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:23am
- G152
  
  Well they’re covering their rear ends so when they finally get found out and ‘put away’ they will still be able to vote.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:32am
- Tricati
  
  The muppets shelve the legislation to increase penalties for assaulting/abusing first responders and focus on this crap – Say’s it all really that in their eyes offenders have greater rights than victims; and this at a time we have had the tragic death of a policemen doing his duty in protecting us. They make me sick.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:07am
- Benedict Yu
  
  So the Green Party wants to allow all prisoners to vote? Like mass killers and rapists. What is wrong with Golriz Ghahraman? She is the strangest MP since Keith Locke – also in the Greens. Remember him ? long time supporter of the Khemer Rouge, and an advocate of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:12am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    She literally joined the Greens when he left because she felt they needed someone else like him there.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:51am
- cmm
  
  By Golly, gee, what a cock up.
  
  But what the HELL were National doing supporting an amendment to allow all prisoners to vote?
  
  Or did I misunderstand that?
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:24am
  - CJames
    
    They voted for it was to totally confound the government’s legislation. Now Little will have to go back to the house to get the legislation amended. Just showing another level of his incompetence.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:39am
  - RJ
    
    I believe, I could be wrong, national supported that all prisoners be on the electoral roll, which they should be anyway, just shouldn’t be allowed to vote
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:49am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    They allowed prisoners to enrole to vote but not to actually vote. Basically, they turned the legislation into a joke.
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:55am
- JackRabbit
  
  Before long they will be granting the right to vote to Kindy Kids, teddy bears, polar bears, and a proxy vote for all unborn children in the womb. The rationale will be that it is their future and they have a right to vote on that future, even if they are not yet born.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:27am
  - david
    
    AHA JackRabbit, I’m surprised that with a name like yours, you omitted the Easter Bunny, after all he (she?, it?) is ESSENTIAL.
    
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    June 25, 2020 2:56pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I’m just delighted to see that the environment has such a vital role in this lady’s head…
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:21am
- Raphael
  
  And Little blames National rather than his own incompetence for this farcical law.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12342896
  
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  June 25, 2020 12:32pm
JibberJabber

Time for Ashley to drop the Hammer on this clusterFark gummint one would think…
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June 25, 2020 8:14am
- Two bob
  
  im sure he is privy to alot of extremley damaging info/papers that he could accidently leave around for media to find.
  I hope he defects and shits over those that are shitting on him in a rather brutal way, blindsiding cindy and clarke at a press conference would be maximum impact.
  I cross my fingers and hope 🙂
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:00am
- RRM
  
  Bloomfield should have punched Clark. Then addressed him in front of the cameras while he was on the ground.
  
  I fronted up to the country every day of the lockdown, while you were riding your mountain bike and everyone else was locked down in their home. You greasy waste of space. Fuck yourself.
  
  And then put the boot in him and walked out.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:36am
  - Swifty
    
    A course of action that I would endorse.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:44am
  - burt
    
    Don’t forget taking the family to the beach… it was a crime for the rest of us but we need to remember all animals are equal.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:20am
  - Pharmachick
    
    Ahhh yes, also known as “The Bob Jones Solution”
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:30pm
- burt
  
  Have we got a reporter with enough balls to ask him if the rumor was true that he threatened to resign in early March if we continued to hold off lock down till after the 15th March?
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:19am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Why not email Hosking?
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:44am
JibberJabber

Margaret Thatcher

Left-wing zealots have often been prepared to ride roughshod over due process and basic considerations of fairness when they think they can get away with it. For them the ends always seems to justify the means. That is precisely how their predecessors came to create the gulag.

When people are free to choose, they choose freedom./blockquote>
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June 25, 2020 8:18am
DRHILL

So Palmerston North Council voted for a 1.9% rates increase instead of a 4.4%
“Councillors Lorna Johnson, Aleisha Rutherford, Zulfiqar Butt and Brent Barrett voted against the resolution, concerned the cuts in spending went too deep and people had not been properly consulted about where savings were made.”

These councillors all happen to have run on the Labour Party ticket.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/121929756/modest-city-rates-rise-recognises-covid19-pain
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June 25, 2020 8:25am
- Swifty
  
  Following their orders from head office I see.
  
  As opposed to doing what’s right for the good people of Palmerston North.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:03am
- MCos
  
  I don’t know where the cutbacks are being made to achieve these cuts in Palmy, but it’s a bit pointless if it means shuffling stuff around so the costs just pop up somewhere else.
  For example in Wellington it appears that sometime in the past money was saved by not maintaining the sewerage system and now it’s come back to bite them in the bum at great cost and disruption.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:27am
  - Swifty
    
    What cutbacks?
    
    It’s 1.9% more than last year; seems a reasonable allowance for inflation – so exactly the same as last year.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:43am
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      Exactly! It seems that the plan many councils use is to suggest a much larger increase in taxes than actually desired so that when the level of tax increase is then reduced everyone will be happy. So many people are dumb. Those that are not will vote to get rid of the councillors as soon as possible
      
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      June 25, 2020 6:23pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  “concerned the cuts in spending went too deep”
  
  Why will there need to be such cuts to spending if revenue will increase by 1.9 percent? Local Government finances are totally whacko. A reforming Government would just burn the whole system to the ground and start again.
  
  This is the thing about New Zealand – dozens, possibly hundreds of areas of public policy that need to be reformed and little apetite to do any of it. That is why I don’t get National. Why can’t they just pick the top 10 problems that make New Zealand poor and write them on an index card, and pledge to fix them? And print millions of them. I will give my 10 (and I don’t even cover education – that could be another 10).
  
  So National if you are reading this, I am happy to help for a very modest fee, before I give up and head back home.
  
  1. Repeal the Zero Carbon Act (Stupid and makes us poor)
  
  2. Repeal the Local Government Act (Destructive and dysfunctional)
  
  3. Repeal the RMA (start again)
  
  4. Five years lifetime limit on welfare for all people without a disability
  
  5. Require all Councils to release adequate land for urban housing (and sack them if they fail to do so).
  
  6. BUILD ROADS (Surely I don’t need to explain this)
  
  7. Audit all central Government expenditure and promise to reduce spending as a proportion of GDP by 5 percent over three years and 10 percent over 10 years.
  
  8. Stop bringing in low skill migrants.
  
  9. Abolish the Climate Commission.
  
  10. Resource the Productivity Commission properly and set a GDP per capita growth target to move New Zealand to the top half of the OECD wealth table over 20 years. The entire focus of the Government will be on GDP per capita growth.
  
  11. (Bonus) Remove all references to the Treaty Principles from all legislation.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:37am
  - ancient one
    
    And
    Remove all Excise Duties.
    Pay road maintenance from Consolidated account
    New Roads through 50 year bonds.
    Make Snus legal
    30% GST on spirituous liqours
    It would let 600,000 Kiwis keep about $150 a week of their own money.
    It would lower the price of groceries and retail goods.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:50am
  - MCos
    
    Your #3 is interesting Repeal the RMA
    The Nats did attempt to fiddle with it in their last term of running the country.
    They ran into problems, however, because they didn’t have the numbers. That is to say they couldn’t convince a majority of MPs that whatever they wanted to do was an improvement on the status quo.
    Two things came out of that.
    That’s life with coalition government.
    Their former partners are nowhere to be seen in the current parliament.
    
    I’m picking NZF will be gone come 20-September. Their only hope is winning is Jones winning Northland & that would require cooperation from Labour.
    Well, good luck with that. That’s already obvious the way NZF has been so obstructionist.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:30am
RRM

The Herald are running a headline calling Clark SPINELESS for throwing Bloomfield under the bus.

The media’s love affair with the government might finally be over??
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June 25, 2020 8:29am
- Harriet
  
  No.
  
  The media are good at reading things.
  
  She will now throw Clarke out to look like she has a spine.
  
  As I said at the time —- $1uff will be liquidated after the election.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:34am
- herb1
  
  Yes , but the headline “Government hoping to get through second media package” might change that. That would be Cindys intention anyway.
  
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  June 25, 2020 12:32pm
oldpark

Was wandering is the person known as Golriz Ghahramen whose previous track record or what is in her CV .The same woman photographed with an alleged Riwandian murderer of multi thousands of innocents in the huge Riwandian genocide trial against Tutsi and Hutu population in Rwanda. Just saying .
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June 25, 2020 8:30am
Old White Loser

National Party reply to Labour’s “Nationals’s 9 Years of Neglect”

Labour’s 3 Years of Abuse
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June 25, 2020 8:37am
- graham
  
  “Labour’s 3 Years of Stagnation” – can we afford ANOTHER 3 years of no activity, no growth, no development?
  
  Kiwibuild – bugger all houses actually built, and even less sold
  Light Rail – “shelved”
  Reducing Child Poverty – fail
  “Nobody sleeping in cars” – fail
  Oil and gas exploration – banned
  1800 new police – MIA
  Fees free policy – goalposts shifted very quietly, as the number of students enrolled in tertiary education FELL in 2018, and then in 2019 less than a third of tertiary students who benefited from the scheme were from decile 1 to 5 schools
  Roads of National Significance – cancelled
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:16am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    All at great expense.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:13am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Labour should be banned from using the word Kiwi. What they do is NOT representative of either Kiwi’s of the furry type, or the 5 million people who are identified by the word Kiwi. Labour have sullied the name.
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:02pm
  - The Boss
    
    Ihumatao: 480 houses blocked
    
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    June 25, 2020 3:07pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Abuse isn’t the right word. 3 years of failure would be better.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:20am
Maggie Pie

I used to quite like listening to IZB’s Marcus Lush while i was getting ready for night shifts. He was always a bit ‘quirky’….in an odd sort of way.
But not any more. These days he comes across as somewhere between a male version of Golriz Grahaman, and a white version of Don Lemon.

He now fits the Urban Dictionary description of ‘dumbed-down’ 🙁
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June 25, 2020 8:39am
- lifesgood
  
  He comes on, radio goes off. Last time I heard him he was sitting behind the mike begging people to ring in, because nobody was.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:47am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  He is a lefty twit and always has been.
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:50am
- kowtow
  
  He near shit his pants ( you could hear the fear) , an old dear upbraided him when he played the English nurses doing their haka .
  An elderly woman , Maori, rang in in near hysterics demanding he stop playing it and never to do it again ie it bordered on sacrilege .
  
  He caved and totally .
  
  What was he , who purports to uphold freedom’s values, so afraid of?
  
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  June 25, 2020 8:52am
  - Komata
    
    kowotow@0852
    
    A sudden loss of income as a consequence perhaps?
    
    It has been known to occur – even amongst the media luvvies…
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:48am
Maggy Wassilieff

Hidden away in the ABC’s Religion column is this piece on countries that have done well in containing Covid-19.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/why-single-out-new-zealands-coronavirus-response/12387528
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June 25, 2020 8:44am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Thank you for pointing us to a very good article written thruthfully.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:12am
- cmm
  
  Seriously poor reporting, so to be taken with a very big pinch of salt.
  
  The writer even says the US president told people to drink bleach. A ridiculous distortion of what he said.
  
  Are African countries really doing better? Hard to tell with their chaotic health systems.
  
  If they are doing well then it is likely down to a natural factor (climate, disease profiles, whatever).
  
  It certainly is not down to good management.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:30am
  - Brian Marshall
    
    I think the president of Burundi died of Covid 19. Initially reported as a heart attack, but I saw a report a few days later saying his wife went to Kenya for treatment and he had the symptoms before dying.
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:49pm
Random T Person

Anyone else note the extraordinary disincentive to get tested for COVID? As it is, being in sniffle season, a runny nose now makes you a complete leper. Were you to test positive for the plague, what then? You get isolated, shoved into ICU, unable to see anyone, do anything, go anywhere? I’m not seeing the upside in this. My sniffle, for all I know, could be the mild COVID. But buggered if I have any interest in finding out more.
Meanwhile, I can’t even take my child to the dentist yet. Unbelievable.
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June 25, 2020 8:46am
- Batman
  
  How is your dentist not open? Mine has been bugging me for weeks…
  
  As an aside, you not wanting to find out if your sniffle is mild Covid, is the exact reason we needed preventative measures. So congrats on willingly being a silent spreader, even if the chance is pretty darn small given the lack of spread at the moment.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:32am
  - Random T Person
    
    Thanks Batman, I’ll take the gong. But you miss the point, which is that there is an obvious disincentive, and a strong one at that, not to test.
    The ‘free’ dental care for kids is not seeing kids. Again we see why subsidised/’free’ healthcare is a bad idea (Thomas Sowell covers this in detail in one of his books, can’t quite recall which). Because they chuck in the towel real easy, where the commercial fellas are still at it.
    Why don’t I just go to a commercial fella, you ask? Well, I will. Just like I shelled out $5k when the state system couldn’t see my boy for a small growth on his scalp. I bypassed the services my taxes had paid for and went private, because some risks I am not prepared to take, particularly when it comes to my children.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:11am
- RJ
  
  As long as you aren’t prepared to get tested, then good that you can’t get into the dentist. And yes, I had a bad cough, runny nose and got tested a few weeks ago, not only for the peace of mind of my family but for the medical staff at my doctors.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:52am
  - RightNow
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/121926274/coronavirus-as-queues-grow-its-now-harder-to-get-a-covid19-test
    
    “From today, it will be more difficult for people presenting general symptoms to be tested. People must have had contact with a confirmed or probable case, be a recent international arrival, or have had direct contact with an overseas traveller in the last 14 days.”
    
    Random T Person is right.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:38am
    - RJ
      
      Well, I’ve just come back from my GP who had a covid testing letter on his table from the ministry of health. I asked him about it and he said its completely different to what the ministry are telling the media, and that his practise will be ignoring the letter and going on each patient. He went on to say the ministry are lying with what they are telling the press.
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:31am
      - RightNow
        
        I can only hope the media find this out and shed sunlight on the useless MoH and their excrement minister.
        
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        June 25, 2020 1:37pm
    - Random T Person
      
      Now that’s a first.
      
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      June 25, 2020 11:36am
    - burt
      
      We’re back to the mode we were in pre lock down. Don’t test so we don’t find cases. Funny how when Trump said that he was mocked but when our politicians do the same but lie about it they are praised for their strong leadership.
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:35pm
  - Random T Person
    
    But, see, RJ, I CAN in fact go to the dentist. I can do anything I please as per normal. Should I go get tested and come up +, I will not be permitted to do ANYTHING at all.
    The kids dentists are only seeing ’emergency cases’. I can and will take my kid to Lumino because he has ‘shark teeth’ and I want to be sure they are all gonna come out fine. Might also have my own broken tooth seen to.
    Like Batman, you’re misunderstanding the point I am making – the point is that there is a powerful disincentive to get tested. You don’t have to like the point, but I guarantee you, I am not the only one to run this scenario through my mind.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:19am
    - Two bob
      
      I agree and many I know wouldnt get tested for various reasons, the main reason being not wanting to be “that case” that sparks lockdown 2.0 as the social media clowns will be brutally abusive when they find out who the poor person was.
      
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      June 25, 2020 6:27pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  This winter nobody with even a minor cold will be allowed in an office or on a plane. I am just waiting for the hysterics when someone gets on a plane and blows their nose into a tissue. They will be marched off by folk in PPE 🙂 Christ imagine what will happen if someone sneezes on a plane?
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:07am
  - Random T Person
    
    Plus the snotty tissue is now weaponised…
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:20am
- MCos
  
  My son & his wife are both recovering from colds. They had themselves tested a few days ago for Covid-19, not because there was more than a very small chance they had it, but because she is due to give birth.
  They obviously don’t want to front up to the hospital coughing & sneezing.
  Ever since it emerged some people left the lockdown early untested there’s been a degree of alarm. Not helped by Todd Muller ‘reckoning’ the bug is on the loose again.
  The people who should be tested are those with a logical reason.
  Tweet on the subject to Muller
  https://twitter.com/drrawiri/status/1275576649841405952?s=21
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:20am
  - RightNow
    
    Those accusing Todd Mueller of spreading fear must have short memories.
    Remember when the country had to wait 28 days without a positive test result before we were allowed some of our freedoms back?
    Now new arrivals to isolation have been mingling with those about to leave theirs, most untested, and you’re defending this.
    You wasted over $100 billion if that’s the case.
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:47pm
hullkiwi

Just when you thought David Clark and Lees-Galloway were alone with their levels of incompetence on full display. Up steps Kelvin Davis, a permanent resident of the Witless Protection Programme – his interview with Lisa Owen last night was another Kelvin gem.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018752091/tourism-minister-answers-strategic-tourism-asset-funding-questions

The wheeels are falling off the truck…..
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June 25, 2020 8:50am
- Swifty
  
  That was an appalling interview.
  
  He had no answers for the majority of questions put and just regurgitated his pre-prepared talking points.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:49am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Heh, you should have sent Lisa Owen one of her beloved listener texts saying “Well the Labour Party’s just lost my vote!”
  
  I’m sure she would have gleefully read it out with her characteristic aplomb
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:36am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  Surely only a bot could downtick hk’s post. Or is that you, Mrs Davis?
  
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  June 25, 2020 12:01pm
Maggy Wassilieff

NZ gearing up to save the jobs of media luvvies?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/121936402/government-pushing-for-second-media-support-package-before-election

Australia Broadcasting makes hard cuts
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/jobs-and-content-cut-in-abc-shake-up-designed-to-save-40-million
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June 25, 2020 8:57am
- Two bob
  
  no shame in this govt, to say its going to be done prior to election is a blatant media bribe. is this their way out of the current pickle they find themselves in??
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:03am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Yes – and the ABC luvvies crying foul about how it will destroy democracy…
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:38am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Only because the media is finally starting to ask the hard questions!
  
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  June 25, 2020 6:42pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Play school TV1 breakfast. Some bimbo reporting from kirikiriroa. Is this place even in New Zealand?
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June 25, 2020 8:58am
- GazzaW
  
  Is it in aotearoa Steve?
  
  I think so. It’s about 100kms south of tamaki makaurau.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Dunno where those places are
    
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    June 25, 2020 9:47am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I recall a couple of years ago someone phoned me up and invited me to a meeting in “Tāmaki Makaurau”. I said something like “What or where is that?” The person on the end of the phone told me I was “offensive”. I did not attend the meeting 🙂 True story. Seriously.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:09am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Imagine telling a middle eastern taxi driver ‘tamaki makaurau’
      
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      June 25, 2020 3:23pm
  - kowtow
    
    Kms ? Surely that’s cultural appropriation of French measurements and it should be done in terms of Maori standards of measurements ……..which are , erm , ah ….
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Kilometre is such a western/colonial construct, as is South…
    
    I think you’d better stick to kumi and tonga
    
    So, Kirikiriroa is 5555 kumi tonga of Tamaki Makaurau
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/DOM19180202.2.16
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:16am
  - david
    
    or 500 km North of Te Waipounamu
    
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    June 25, 2020 3:14pm
- cmm
  
  No it is in Aotearoa.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:32am
- Jack5
  
  State TV and State radio are pushing the strongest for Maorification of New Zealand English language.
  
  Pull the State funding, and find if the market supports them. If the market shows this is what people want, steam full ahead into developing NZ Pidgin.
  
  The adult, intelligent path is two broadcast in parallel languages, Maori and English.There’s plenty of bandwidth and heaps of young Maori wananga graduates who could run the Maori version.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:46am
- Nickc2
  
  Hopefully the Breakfast show will get the chop during TV1’s restructure and then these bimbos will be out of a job.
  It really gives me the shits when I phone someone and some bimbo answers with kiaora. When this happens, I hang up immediately without replying and revert to e-mail.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:44am
Maggie Pie

I’m with Bubba on this one!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbTRj1gXkAMRDrJ?format=jpg&name=small
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June 25, 2020 8:59am
- Random T Person
  
  Ha. Sick of these ‘moving scenes’ like everyone huddled around Bubba the string-fearer’s car on the grid. Ridiculous.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:03am
- RJ
  
  Aren’t they sports cups for the elderly team at the rest home sponsored by viagra
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:54am
  - kowtow
    
    A white knights’ cod piece ?
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:45am
- Rich Prick
  
  Everything’s racialist these days I tells ya.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:27am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    My motorcycle is not racist, RP! It prefers to live within black spaces and only briefly dallies over white lines… so there 🙂
    
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    June 25, 2020 2:17pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      I see the iwi-funded tick-trolls are trying to justify some small % of their per diem.
      
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      June 25, 2020 5:45pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/121938485/bubba-wallace-it-was-a-noose

So: he didn’t actually see the “noose” himself. All that fuss about nothing.

To make things worse, he also has to go through life with the name “Bubba”.
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June 25, 2020 9:06am
- Random T Person
  
  And, of course, he’s already an agitator for the racial division movement, so how convenient (like Jussie Smollett) for him that he’s suddenly ‘targeted’ by ‘white supremacists’.
  FFS.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:14am
- Fletch
  
  He is doubling down though, rather than apologize, insisting it was a noose, even though it was there long before his team moved in. Pathetic.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:10am
MCos

An amusingly factual headline.

‘Devin Nunes can’t sue Twitter over statements by fake cow, judge rules‘

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/nation-world/national/article243664982.html#storylink=cpy
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June 25, 2020 9:10am
- Mike
  
  Devin Nunes’ Cow and Devin Nunes’ Mom are both off the hook, I see.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:19am
lastmanstanding

TV One poll out tonight. One can only hope at least some of the 55% have woken up since the last poll and realised NZ has the worst Government in living memory.

They have promoted dumb policies and luckily have failed to deliver on them.

Alas I fear the low IQ and mentality will mean they cant see past the fairy dust.
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June 25, 2020 9:14am
- Inandout
  
  lastman, I hope that the election result puts these polls where they belong.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:18am
- Poppa
  
  I am picking a big swing away from Labour & whilst I hate to say it a bump for Peters. I can’t stand the man but he has actually talked some sense recently
  
  I think ACT will be surprisingly high as well & could be getting close to 5%
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:22am
  - Harriet
    
    Winston has the wisdom to know that the current issues will only be solved with common sense, as Tim Shadbolt said – it’s a balance between austerity and economic activity – something Labour have never learned.
    Winston is currently positioning himself away from Labour, fishing is not all he was doing during the lockdown.
    
    The next government will be National, Act and NZF as none will dare to oppose each other beforehand — unless of course NZF or ACT are performing well below 5%.
    
    And National won’t want him outside the tent with the workload that they will have as the next government. ACT would be the same I’d presume.
    
    Winston probably can’t believe his luck — well he’s looking far from miserable! 😎
    
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    June 25, 2020 4:01pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A few more headlines like this and folks might wake up..
  https://yournz.org/2020/06/25/government-crumbling/#comments
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:24am
- herb1
  
  I assume the poll will only cover a small part of the Covid debacle.
  If so I expect the numbers to be down a little but will show the start of a negative trend for Labour.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:37am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    No. Colmar Brunton polled right up to last night, so it’s the freshest and most up-to-date of all the polls.
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:45pm
- Two bob
  
  im at the stage I dont believe polls anymore, theres too many theyve become irrelevant really and only 1 every 3 years counts.
  
  imo to make polls trustworthy they need to release mapping/details with numbers or % of how many ppl sampled in each electorate to make them credible.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:41am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “They have promoted dumb policies and luckily have failed to deliver on them.”
  
  That is a blessing. It means that only millions of been wasted on Auckland “light rail” rather than billions.
  
  I have totally gone off public transport. I visited Wellington last week and needed to visit a client. I caught the bus from Berhampore because parking is a hassle. It was dire. Crowded. Folk coughing. Some guy got on with a back pack and proceeded to rotate fitting people with the backpack like a battering ram. Christchurch is not perfect, but the houses are affordable and I can pretty much drive to wherever I need to go and park outside.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:14am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “Alas I fear the low IQ and mentality will mean they cant see past the fairy dust.”
  and the criminals, 3rd reading on votes for criminals bill has passed it’s 3rd reading.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:14am
Inandout

I am informed Magnum ice cream on a stick is named after a firearm. This must be renamed.
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June 25, 2020 9:16am
- lifesgood
  
  Yeah, the uneducated morons wouldn’t know it is latin for big.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:20am
- Rich Prick
  
  Big Ben pies too, they’re offensive to the lesser endowed. And we can’t have that.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:30am
- mark15
  
  Do ya feel…licky?
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:42pm
BeeJay

An old friend, Pete Montgomery, had a saying (he had many) that when applied today, describes this CoL Government –
“They’re all hair cream and no socks!”
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June 25, 2020 9:17am
- Flossie
  
  Or that good old “fur coat and no knickers” one?
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:48am
  - kowtow
    
    All piss and wind and no shit.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:46am
    - Sacha
      
      All hat and no trousers.
      
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      June 25, 2020 7:16pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    I don’t know where my father got it from.
    But he was always saying.
    “no nails to scratch their ass with”.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:11am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      As useful as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest…
      
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      June 25, 2020 12:46pm
- Durden
  
  All foreplay no F
  
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  June 25, 2020 1:59pm
Maggie Pie

The look on my partner’s face when he catches me checking-out the bulge in the waiters crotch.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbRNxMkXQAA36Zt?format=jpg&name=small
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June 25, 2020 9:25am
- MCos
  
  I thought you’d be checking out the bulge where he kept his wallet.
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:30am
JibberJabber

Thinking of changing my handle to Talcolm X…
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June 25, 2020 9:25am
hullkiwi

What’s the bet CB, TV1 and Jessica MuchLess will be struggling to rig the result for the news.

They can’t promote PriNZess while the rest of the media are circling like wolves. It is not credible for advertising revenues.
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June 25, 2020 9:26am
- RJ
  
  According to Mike Hosking he was saying don’t expect much change in tonights poll
  
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  June 25, 2020 9:56am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    He was wrong about the Muller coup so let’s hope he’s wrong again.
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:30am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    I think there will still be an event timing lag to overcome yet
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:41pm
Flossie

It really concerns me that St John is desperately short of funds to the tune of about $20 million this year alone. For the amount of money poured in to Pike River mine we could fund this essential service for a couple of years and potentially save more than 29 lives.
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June 25, 2020 9:27am
- Swifty
  
  Labour have never seemed to grasp that basic and essential fact that a dollar spent here means a dollar less available there.
  
  A billion on overseas diplomatic offices, billions for the Jones Northland election fund, hundreds of millions on fees free, hundreds of millions on hundreds of reviews and enquiries; the list just goes on and on and on – while the basics are neglected.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:36am
  - sooty
    
    250 working groups to pay for as well.
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Sounds like Chess is now ‘racist’ because white moves first
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June 25, 2020 9:50am
- lifesgood
  
  So if black moves first isn’t that equally racist? perhaps all pieces should be yellow, or not.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:18am
- MCos
  
  It’s not as black and white as you think
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:26am
  - MH
    
    Pawn-ography
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:24pm
- Inandout
  
  steve, it has to pass BLM approval first.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:28am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  And the second Friday in November 2020 will be “white Friday”.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:31am
- cmm
  
  Bagpipes are racist because very few black people play them.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:32am
- Bobba Fret
  
  In Draughts, Black moves first.
  
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  June 25, 2020 3:09pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    My games in giraffes had white and red – but on a black and white checkered board. (my Father taught me how to win)
    White, red, black, white. Someone is fucking this shit up and it is not me
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:16pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://imgflip.com/i/150af2
  
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  June 25, 2020 3:18pm
fernglas

Why in God’s name is the Government giving 5 million to AJ Hackett? To save 20 jobs at $250,000 a pop? So they can stand around empty but fully staffed? Who do these clowns think they are, to decide what businesses get a taxpayer funded donation. And in this particular case, a very successful business with wealthy owners.
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June 25, 2020 10:01am
- Swifty
  
  The Minister of Tourism doesn’t have a clue either – see hullkiwi’s link to the RNZ interview with him about this.
  
  He used 1,000 words to tell us he has no idea what criteria officials are using – he’s leaving it all up to them.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:28am
  - Swifty
    
    I should add – honestly, the interview was excruciatingly bad. When given quite reasonable and straightforward questions he completely avoided them and gave stock, standard answers to questions Lisa Owen didn’t ask.
    
    It was screamingly obvious he doesn’t know what’s going on in his portfolio.
    
    In times such as these it’s a tragedy we’ve got such mediocre people in charge.
    
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    June 25, 2020 10:32am
- MCos
  
  A lot more than 60 jobs.
  
  Apart from that, why give money to Team NZ, or Hobbiton or any other tourist attraction?
  All that sort of stuff suck in the crowds to spend money on other things.
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:55am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Our local $2 shop has not reopened and AJH gets $5,000,000? Have equal rights among citizens now been abolished?
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:16am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Have equal rights among citizens now been abolished?
    
    No. Which is why A J Hackett is being treated as other businesses have been.
    
    Van Ash and his partners are running a NZ business shut down by the government’s reaction to the virus.
    
    What makes them undeserving when every other business deserves assistance?
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:16pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The amount seems disproportionate to a fair distribution.
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:06pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It is sensible for govt to cover maintenance (as a loan, that can be paid for in ownership share) while stuff is mothballed. Will allow faster bounce-back once tourists return.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:26am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Why in God’s name is the Government giving 5 million to AJ Hackett?
  
  To prevent any other business from offering employment to his Jump-Masters.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:26am
  - fernglas
    
    So the taxpayer subsidises people who currently and in the future may not have any job? So that someone who does have a job for them can’t employ them? If Hackett was that confident that these people were needed, surely they could have borrowed to keep them on?
    
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    June 25, 2020 11:47am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Is the govt effectively acquiring Hackett’s business?
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:07pm
  - MH
    
    that’s stretching it…
    
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    June 25, 2020 12:26pm
    - kowtow
      
      ….they’ll bounce back.
      
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      June 25, 2020 5:08pm
- cmm
  
  My, limited, understanding is that AJH is not just a couple of bungy jumpers with a van in Queenstown but is an international operation with jumping locations, or franchisees with jumping locations, throughout the world.
  
  Likely their whole international operation is suffering, but we should only be bailing out their employees here (if we should be doing anything, that is).
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:30am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    cmm, A J Hackett runs the international stuff (or at least used to), Van Ash runs the NZ stuff.
    
    Each a separate business.
    
    The NZ business is probably 99% tourist based.
    
    The government took away the tourists. Surely compensation in the form of assistance to get through the government foolishness is due.
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:48pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      COVID took away from all. Not all have been compensated.
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:09pm
      - MT_Tinman
        
        I’m hip!
        
        I didn’t like Van Ash when I met him, I disliked the only member of his staff I ever met.
        
        Despite this A J Hackett runs a business that has been destroyed, hopefully temporarily, by the current government.
        
        Other outfits have been offered reparations for that destruction.
        
        What makes A J Hackett different?
        
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        June 25, 2020 6:36pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300041859/aj-hackett-payout-corporate-welfare-for-richlisters-economist-says
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:53am
Inandout

Grant (our finance man) says the government has ‘done very well’.
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June 25, 2020 10:27am
Komata

MaggyW@0811

Re: An amendment…passed with the help of the National Party

NOT AGAIN!!

Can’t Muller and Kaye and others show a bit of spine and for once in their lives vote against SOMETHING that is not in the ‘National’ interest?

Surely that isn’t asking TOOOO much?
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June 25, 2020 10:40am
- Tony Stuart
  
  This was politics at play. By supporting the Green amendment, the Bill reported back by the Committee of the Whole House was completely contradictory, and Andrew Little is now going to have to do more work to have it make sense before it can be enacted. Bear in mind that the House is sitting under urgency to try and pass a whole block of legislation, and is likely to sit at least until Friday night at this stage. National is going to make things as difficult as they can for the Government.
  
  For the record, National voted AGAINST Little’s Bill at the Third Reading.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:26am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Yeah, they’re basically filibustering an unjust law that is being pushed through without public consultation. It’s a really clever piece of work.
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:13pm
RW Capitalist

Light rail in Auckland
Loved the expensive mock up video on TV
Showing how the duel track would have taken up th WHOLE road. But also showed cars driving down either side of the tracks.
Meaning
They would have to purchase, EVERY building on both sides of the current road to achieve this.
Is it 15Km to the airport?
say 10m per building, so 1500 buildings on each side, 3000 purchases for this to happen.
At an average ( in Auckland) of say $800000 per building.
So $2.4billion of compulsory purchase
Several years for construction (ie no airport access through this route)
Businesses and employees lost due to the closure of access to their site.
I still haven’t mentioned construction costs.
By the time all this has ended, our great great great grandchildren, still won’t have paid the bill.
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June 25, 2020 10:48am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Good thing they cancelled it eh?
  But how much did the past 3 years of discussion and ridiculous posturing, cost us?
  
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  June 25, 2020 10:49am
- RW Capitalist
  
  OOHH forgot
  The mock up showed that you would only be able to turn left, from every street entering the current road.
  So, facing the direct of the airport, roads on the left side could only got to the airport and roads on the right could only go into town.
  Who spent 3 years designing this dogs breakfast?
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:18am
- alex Masterley
  
  RWC, Auckland Council have been buying up properties on each side of Dominion Road from Ian Mackinnon Drive to the South-Western junction for some years now.
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:45am
Fletch

The liberal website Vox on John Bolton’s book. To paraphrase – Trump’s foreign policy might be bad, but Bolton’s would have been far worse.

But the book’s true virtue is its surprising, unmistakable conclusion: Given the choice between having Trump or Bolton leading US foreign policy, Trump is clearly the better option.
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By his own recounting, Bolton urged Trump to shy away from diplomacy and seek hardline positions against adversarial countries, namely in North Korea, Iran, and Venezuela. In one particularly disturbing passage, Bolton says it was “irrational” for Trump not to conduct an attack on Iran that could have led to tens to hundreds of civilian casualties, after it downed an unmanned American surveillance drone.

Had Trump taken Bolton’s advice more often, then, the US would be engaged in multiple conflicts across the globe. “It’s not clear to me that something equivalent to two more Iraq Wars would be better for the country,” Joshua Shifrinson, a US foreign policy expert at Boston University, said.
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Ironically, the person who makes the best case for Trump’s argument against John Bolton is John Bolton himself. The most surprising thing about Bolton’s book is how nonchalant he is about advocating war and denigrating diplomacy — and how he tried to impose that mindset on the president.
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Make no mistake: War has a place in US foreign policy, and for good reason. It’s an essential element of statecraft, and a leader shouldn’t shy away from it when — and only when — absolutely necessary. But going to war for foolish reasons is the cardinal sin of foreign policy, and Bolton wanted to commit it all the time.

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/24/21300291/john-bolton-book-trump-review-room-foreign-policy
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June 25, 2020 11:20am
- Mike
  
  Bolton is a hideous warmonger, who doesn’t believe in any international rule of law except force by the US.
  Who the hell appointed him as national security advisor?
  
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  June 25, 2020 11:52am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    It’s always useful to have an aggressive barking dog in the kennel to frighten opponents…. Bolton just wasnt properly trained to shut up when told….
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:05pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Well said.
      
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      June 25, 2020 2:14pm
  - SB2
    
    “Who the hell appointed him as national security advisor?”
    
    Presumably the President!
    
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    June 25, 2020 1:06pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  I prefer peace to a seditious adviser.
  
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  June 25, 2020 2:26pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    The peace of submission?
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:47pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12342694
Buoyant investor confidence worries regulator
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All good. Asset prices will sky rocket, fueled by government money printing presses.

Good for those fortunate enough to be in a position of privilege to tap into those streams of government cash. Hangers on will do OK too.

It is an odd world in which we live.
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June 25, 2020 11:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Your link is pay-walled.
  Some of us on this blog are destitute slum-dwellers who can’t afford to pay the NZ Herald for their “Premium” tales.
  
  Perhaps you could provide a precis for those of us in the cheap seats.
  
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  June 25, 2020 1:53pm
  - MCos
    
    Didn’t you pay to stay at some swanky place the other day and sleep at home?
    
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    June 25, 2020 3:29pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      That wasn’t Maggy, that was Maggie.
      
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      June 25, 2020 5:01pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        How anyone could muddle us up is beyond me.
        
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        June 25, 2020 5:18pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  At present it’s a big gambling game for the money movers. Value has become irrelevant. The world is still largely in shock so it’s too early to feel the international outcomes for a while yet.
  
  Asset price will go crazy, businesses will fail, unemployment will escalate, currencies will be re-adjusted relatively, exports be very uncertain and our CPI begin to climb. With a “kindness” govt preferring wage rise to grumbles, a wage price spiral like Labour brought NZ in the 1970’s is very likely–its control, not so likely.
  This should all be buzzing by election day and into the new year and likely years to come.
  
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  June 25, 2020 2:23pm
Maggie Pie

Just shot down to NW for some raw honey and a pack of Kikorangi Blue to stick on my crackers for lunch.
Saw this tee-shirt pushing a trolley in the carpark –
DYSLEXIC
LIVES
MATTRESS.

lol!!
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June 25, 2020 12:14pm
- seismac
  
  I often use big words which when I am out make me sound clever and full of synphorocartrus
  
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  June 25, 2020 4:15pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You’re making things up, snowberry.
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:28pm
Ruawai

“New Zealand can expect to see between four and 12 cases of COVID-19 recorded at our border each week.” Sean Hendy, a modelling expert suggests.
If this is true how is it possible we went 28 days with no coivd detected at the border. Govt saying it is because there is now more people and from riskier places is BS. I wonder if it was because there was no testing???
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June 25, 2020 12:33pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Yes. But also, remember that he’s the physicist that modeled 80,000 deaths so I’m not sure any rational person would call him a modelling expert.
  
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  June 25, 2020 1:10pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Cindy does, which proves your assertion.
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:49pm
  - Hard Cheese
    
    Possibly with PlayDoh.
    
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    June 25, 2020 6:43pm
MH

swifty
Spot the howling error in Stuff’s obit for All Black Dennis Young today:
I didn’t what was it?
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June 25, 2020 12:33pm
- Swifty
  
  That he was born in 1930, but then raised by his mother as his father had been killed in the First World War.
  
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  June 25, 2020 1:30pm
RJ

Concerning. If it’s is happening there, how do we know that they aren’t doing this in other countries as well

Project Veritas – Facebook Content Moderator: ‘If Someone’s Wearing MAGA Hat, I’m Going to Delete Them for Terrorism’

Video
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June 25, 2020 1:12pm
- Kabull
  
  This needs to be widely disseminated. It is an appalling attempt to divert public opinion.
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:01pm
  - Fletch
    
    I posted on yesterday’s GD. But worth sharing again 😉
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:15pm
RJ

It is only natural the bribes will come out before the election. It’s just they are busy pricing the hole David Clark is digging and deciding whose hole is bigger, Twyford or Clark

Finance Minister Grant Robertson says infrastructure announcements are “absolutely” coming before the election, as the Government sits on $3 billion of unspent funding.

The Government’s $50 billion Budget 2020 recovery fund set aside $3 billion to finance infrastructure projects in New Zealand, in efforts to stimulate the economy – but no announcements have been made.

Newshub Article
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June 25, 2020 1:43pm
fernglas

Dry July?????? YMBFJ.
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June 25, 2020 1:45pm
Maggie Pie

OMG – why would you go to the beach wearing an electronic tracking bracelet?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbT7KKKXQAM8IvZ?format=jpg&name=medium
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June 25, 2020 2:10pm
- JibberJabber
  
  C’mon where’s the Farkin’ NSFW?????
  Pass me the eye bleeech ?….lol
  
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  June 25, 2020 2:35pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yer, that tracking bracelet is embarrassing
    
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    June 25, 2020 3:33pm
- RJ
  
  It’s so bad the dolphin has jumped out of the water and hiding on the pier
  
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  June 25, 2020 2:56pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  I’ve seen them with tracking bracelets in supermarkets and Maccas
  
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  June 25, 2020 3:39pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

With the US in it’s current state something is gonna blow soon.
Deranged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcHL43Kgmc
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June 25, 2020 3:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Wow, who woulda thunk it?
10 stomachs,
32 brains,
18 testicles.
What does this mean??????
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/oct/14/10-stomachs-32-brains-and-18-testicles-a-day-inside-the-uks-only-leech-farm
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June 25, 2020 3:52pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But do they have 226 penises like this little flatworm from Kaikoura’s rocky-shore?
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/5852/multivirile-flatworm
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:33pm
RJ

Thanks Gerry for today’s entertainment with the idiot speaker

The fun begins at 3.25
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June 25, 2020 4:21pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  The fun actually began earlier than that. Trevor Mallard baited Nick Smith, requiring him to withdraw and apologise for an interjection against Winston Peters. Smith did that, and Mallard did the control freak thing, making Smith repeat the apology, because he had, in Mallard’s opinion, hadn’t done it properly. Smith must have muttered something as he sat down and Mallard wasted no time throwing him out, knowing that Smith had a question scheduled later in QT.
  
  IMHO Mallard set Smith up, and thus National was deprived of the opportunity to question Andrew Little over the mess he made of the prisoner voting bill. Brownlee was absolutely right later on to point out that Mallard had been less than even handed (or should I say even less even handed than usual!).
  
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  June 25, 2020 4:30pm
  - RJ
    
    yeah I saw that but couldn’t hear what Nick said. Pathetic really because this idiot speaker has in the past kicked someone out, I believe from NZ First, and allowed that question to be asked by another NZ First MP.
    
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    June 25, 2020 4:33pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Mallard has to be the worst speaker in living memory. Constantly protects Cindy, always takes a hard line with National and a soft line with all other parties and is thoroughly nasty to boot. What on earth does Jane Clifton see in him? It beggars belief. Someone that nasty is not only nasty at work, it’s a character trait.
      
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      June 25, 2020 5:16pm
      - RJ
        
        The fact he is the worst in living memory is an accomplishment because he had to go very low to gain that title from Wilson
        
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        June 25, 2020 5:42pm
Happychappy

I see the germ who committed the Young Labour Summer Camp Sexual Assualt is still appealing to get name suppression this even after having the charges downgraded so he escaped a conviction. This pisses me off because I have known other young people that have also faced the courts over the digressions they have committed that have not been given the same leniency but then again they weren’t Labour Party members .
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300042316/young-labour-camp-assault-man-continues-fight-to-keep-name-secret
It apparantly means it’s not what you do but who you know to escape major punishment.
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June 25, 2020 4:31pm
- RJ
  
  poor man, he has suffered and is suffering. I guess he should stop and think about what his victims went through and still are going through. The lawyers asks is there any public interest in the public knowing his name. Yes, because it will allow any other victims to come forward that he may of abused at other events. It will protect his future victims
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:10pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Research it and you find nothing. People fix these things. I guess we have many Govt Ministers in NZ who fix things
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:29pm
Swifty

Maggy W – great news! The first of my spud haulms are up today so on track for harvesting new potatoes as from early Oct.

Jersey Bennes and Cliff’s Kidneys are my choices for earlies this year.
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June 25, 2020 4:41pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Nadine is just lovely
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:30pm
  - Swifty
    
    I’ve grown Nadine several times but I find them a bit metallic tasting.
    
    Might be just my taste buds.
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:36pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I don’t think I’ve ever had a Cliff’s Kidney… never seen them on sale.
  
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  June 25, 2020 5:37pm
  - Swifty
    
    A fine early potato Maggy.
    
    Would love to send you a kg mid-late spring for you to try for yourself.
    
    If you’d care to, I’ll put up an email address here for you to send me your physical address and I’ll put a box on the truck.
    
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    June 25, 2020 5:46pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Hell’s Bell’s … yummy
      
      There’s no secret as to where I live…I’m in the Gizzy Phone Book.
      
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      June 25, 2020 6:20pm
      - greybeard
        
        Stop being so naughty, you lot.
        
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        June 25, 2020 6:24pm
      - Swifty
        
        Good as gold, then with your blessing I’ll look up your address and send down a box, and with great pleasure.
        
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        June 25, 2020 6:26pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Might pay to bring your smalls in Maggs.
        Stephie is rumored to be down your way somewhere.
        
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        June 25, 2020 6:40pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        We’re onto it..
        
        Duckduck is on duty. Nothing gets by her beady eye.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syH_yL5jz4M
        
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        June 25, 2020 7:05pm
      - MH
        
        it must be hell living there, Monty Python, but you have lots of people to call on,the book that is.
        
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        June 26, 2020 5:01pm
RJ

How bizarre. So if you come into the country and have Covid and are placed in isolation it is not where you are tested and isolated that case is listed in, but the area you reside in despite the fact you are not there. Is this a way to rig the system so that the isolation areas don’t show high infection numbers in the stats?

A South Canterbury woman has been confirmed as one of three new Covid-19 cases in New Zealand on Thursday.

The woman, in her 30s, however, is not in South Canterbury but in isolation in the Rotorua after testing positve on her return from Peru on June 20, the South Canterbury District Health Board’s chief executive, Nigel Trainor, confirmed to Stuff.

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June 25, 2020 5:21pm
Wired-one

Pretty sure there is a One News political poll out tonight.
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June 25, 2020 5:30pm
- Wired-one
  
  Labour down 9% to 50%, National up 9% to 38%, Act 3%, Greens 6% and NZFirst 2%. Although many will disagree, moving on Bridges was a wise move. I know Todd Muller, he is a competent, articulate, smart guy. Keep your faith in him people, this is a decent start.
  
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  June 25, 2020 6:12pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    42% vs 56% is still a substantial gap, though direction is positive, and campaigning hasn’t started in earnest (Labour will have a terrible time defending their cockups)
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:14pm
  - Two bob
    
    1 poll means jack shit although good to see things moving in the right direction, we need another couple to see if theyre one offs or a trend emerges.
    
    old winston wasnt too happy and the parting shot from the reporter was awsome. “Aiming high today eh” gold.
    
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    June 25, 2020 8:24pm

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