General Debate 8 March 2020

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Maggy Wassilieff

Who has been funding NZ First?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/119832405/fishing-influence-trawls-deep-into-nz-firsts-past
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March 8, 2020 8:05am
- Happychappy
  
  A good assessment of Winston Peters from Ross Meurant the former bag man for Winston Peters and NZ First as he says a good fella to go on the piss with but obviously like many others say not very trust worthy.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:29am
- Ruahine
  
  ‘We’ have actually known about the fishing industry connection with Winston Peters for years. This story is largely a rehash using another of Peters ex-friends dumping on him. I can only think that the Labour Party want to get rid of NZ First at the next election and that the word has gone out to the Media Party to put the boot in to Winston Peters and for Labour to be able to keep its hands clean whilst they stab him in the back and profess to ‘know nothing’.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:29am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    That’s the way they operate. Labour go underground and dirty.
    
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    March 8, 2020 9:22am
    - artemisia
      
      There will be a new book from Mr Hager any day now.
      
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      March 8, 2020 11:27am
      - Tall Man
        
        With photos of ardern hugging?
        
        Can’t wait to turn that around……… How do you turn around a digi book?
        
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        March 8, 2020 12:47pm
  - Crisplion
    
    If Labour really are trying to get rid of NZF, it’s a very risky strategy. Obviously they could do without the endless scandals that eminate from NZ’s most corrupt party – although Labour are very proficient at generating their own – and without NZF, the woke socialist agenda of Labour and the Greens could proceed with far less impediment. However, if NZF get wiped out, the government is odds-on to fall. It wold be unlike Ardern to risk her cherished position like that. Maybe she’s already lined up her UN sinecure but it still seems unlikely that her colleagues would sign up to a strategy that could see them lose their crown limos and other baubles.
    
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    March 8, 2020 11:47am
- Swifty
  
  A damning article.
  
  “The point is: we learned a lot of Winston Peters and over time standing back and observing his behaviour we were not persuaded in any way about his credibility, honesty and decency and suitability to be involved in politics,” Penwarden says.
  
  Unfortunately this but confirms what we already know.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:42am
- igm
  
  This is just the start of a concerted effort by Fairfax left-wing editorial to influence a Labour/Green outcome in September. There will be orchestrated take downs of National and Act following this and it will get worse driven by unions and their mentor Little.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:52am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Yes, this could be the plan from Stuff.
    
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    March 8, 2020 10:04am
  - suzieq
    
    And Radio NZ?
    
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    March 8, 2020 2:19pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Well Maggy – As long as it is not in the front page of Stuff, nobody is going to read it…so moving on…
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:01am
Tasman Terror

This morning Jacinda will be plotting how to answer these big questions for the week ahead: 1 Which part of the country should I visit an early childhood centre at?; 2What colour Hijab should I wear for the Mosque shooting anniversary?;3 How long should I hug random strangers for in light of Corona virus?; 4 What is Carona virus?;and 5 Which Woman’s mag should I do an urgent photo shoot for?
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March 8, 2020 8:07am
- doggone7
  
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  Clearly there’s a chance you’ll get to meet her then if she’s visiting an early childhood centre.
  
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  March 8, 2020 11:20am
Lee C

Gosh, I can only imagine the outrage from The Green Party …

Oh, sorry, I forgot.

It’s all about the ‘baubles’, isn’t it?
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March 8, 2020 8:18am
- Colville
  
  yes you can only imagine the outrage from the Green party because any outrage is purely imaginary!
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:55am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  its actually all about Greens 7 seats and 5.7%, if labour or the greens drop any support they will be garotted.
  If they had half a brain they would be tearing up the agreement and trying to take the flag while it is possible. NZ First will be powerless in next term, they will suck their COL partners down the longer they stay.
  Jacinda is going to need more than smiley photos, will need to actually show some spine and make a decision once in her “leadership” career.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:03pm
G152

Watched TV last night and the 60s program.
Nothing changes.
The kids are unhappy and with guidance from the left they protest and wondered (at the time) why they were being actually attacked by the society they ‘hated’
Cue to today and we have the same thing.
Kids who know everything are using the evil whiteman technology to travel to protest an American president..
Irony isn’t a strong point.
Those interfering Russians are figments of fake news and now some of those fake news sources are being called to task..
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March 8, 2020 8:19am
- Crisplion
  
  The kids might well be the same as they were in the 60s. What’s changed is that now, instead of the ‘establishment’ being a conservative edifice for them to push against, large elements of the establishment – mainstream media, the universities and many politicians – are abetting them.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:12am
Tempist

Just when I’m ready to swear off stuff they come up with a article that calls out government’s virtue signalling on the environment….

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/120054726/budget-buster-kiwisaver-just-got-stupider
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March 8, 2020 8:31am
- Blackbob
  
  He starts out well then goes full green retard to burnish his green credentials, full of pointless virtue signalling and advice few will bother to follow.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:25am
- rouppe
  
  Read that too, and entirely agree with it.
  
  Regarding the point about to whom the money I spend buying shares goes, I have had conversations with people who are adament that the money goes to the company. Same with those who insist share market investment is actually investing “in” the productive sector. Unbelievable.
  
  So here is the only strategy those – like me – who do not want government interfering in my investment can take. Switch providers
  
  This law change only affects default providers. They’ll say it also only affects the default fund as well, but I don’t believe that, as the different funds are simply the same investment strategies with different weightings.
  
  So the only way is to move to – or stay in – providers that are not default providers.
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:05am
sooty

The greenies are been taken to task about jet setting junkets aswell!
Meanwhile the Comrade does nothing as usual!
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March 8, 2020 8:45am
- 3-coil
  
  sooty: Comrade Jacinda “does nothing as usual” because she thinks like an ostrich. She believes that if she says/does nothing and the furore eventually dies down, she has handled it well!
  But some of these things will be back to bite her. Her ostrich treatment of Shane Jones anti-Indian racist dribblings is a prime example. She’s forgotten (or never known?) about the Cabinet “collective responsibility” rule. All utterances of Cabinet members are the line supported by all the Cabinet, and ipso facto all members of the Cabinet believe the racist rant that Indian students have wrecked New Zealand/Aotearoa’s education system. That’ll be a vote winner among NZ’s Indian community for Labour/Green/NZ1st later this year at election time.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:22am
- Tall Man
  
  They’re not “junkets”…. they’re mobile bonding sessions.
  In the real world when someone spends money on flying about the place someone expects a “return”. Apart from spreading disharmony and ageism… what have these pricks achieved?
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:25am
  - sooty
    
    Will the Corona virus stop the green junkets in their tracks or will they have one last junket on the taxpayer, before it gets worse!
    
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    March 8, 2020 2:26pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Business class flights to safety…….
      
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      March 8, 2020 6:31pm
Ruahine

This from Jeff Taylor. Hopefully a reset is coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu8hOQfsw3A
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March 8, 2020 8:49am
- curry4me
  
  Ruahine: Oops, I posted the same thing before reading the GD. Maybe I’ll stick to posting Mayar Tousi.
  
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  March 8, 2020 6:58pm
Tasman Terror

I see from HDPA’s article in the NZ Herald that the Green List MPs spend considerably more than all the other parties in Parliament on domestic air travel. Climate emergency Chloe? What did you do before becoming an MP? Answer: Nothing. You have become an MP to save the planet? Really. Or do you like the salary and perks more? Planet came a distant second.
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March 8, 2020 9:12am
- Tall Man
  
  TT, the planet isn’t even in the race.
  
  Social upheaval is what they want and the destruction of the rich pricks.
  
  Look at cullen’s comments, he’s basically on his death bed and he wants to see the re-election of ardern and the defeat of Trump.
  
  I’m quite sure my goals for the final few months of my life wouldn’t involve ardern or Trump.
  
  Maybe “World Peace”……… 😉
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:19am
- Ruahine
  
  The Planet comes a distant third. Think Kermadec Sanctuary. If just two of those self serving Green MPs had voted with National there would now be one of the largest areas of open Ocean totally protected. But no. It is all about themselves and their selfish personal ideologies. They are almost sickening. No morals. No ethics. Lacking sense and often demonstrating the lack of individual scientific knowledge.
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:59am
Aunty

Interesting interviews on COVID-19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2_FkyY3BOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJDpV-igjs
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March 8, 2020 9:14am
Maggy Wassilieff

A mother explains why she doesn’t want a memorial service for the Christchurch massacred:

We’re being put in the spotlight again against our will,” she says. “We’re not the ones who asked for it.”

“But for us, [is it] like we want this? We don’t. [Is it] really helping much? It’s not. In fact, it’s triggering a lot of things. And it’s putting a lot of pressure on us.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/08/brutalised-but-defiant-christchurch-massacre-survivors-one-year-on

Has Jacinda Ardern given a minute’s thought to what the family members of the killed and shot are going to have to relive next week?
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March 8, 2020 9:19am
- Tall Man
  
  Of course not Maggy. This is a marvelous change to audition for the world stage and grab a few virtual signaler’s votes.
  
  I need not elaborate, only the mentally dead don’t know my opinion of her by now.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:23am
  - Michael NZ
    
    but TM you are quite correct.
    
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    March 8, 2020 1:01pm
- SB 2
  
  MW, the facts are that there a different and divergent opinions amongst the Muslim community especially those directly affected in the Mosque attacks
  
  The terror attacks were on a sufficient abhorrent scale to warrent some form of commemoration that will remind us that violence and hate directed towards especially minorities will never be acceptable or tolerated.
  
  Agreed !
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:30am
  - SB 2
    
    “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’”
    
    Attributed George Santayana,
    
    Lest we forget!
    
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    March 8, 2020 9:33am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Agree entirely. Please supply a list of attacks against Israelies so that violence and hatred against this minority will never be accepted or tolerated.
    
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    March 8, 2020 3:29pm
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    I am confused as to why so many
    KB’rs downticked this comment.
    
    I generally refrain from responding to any of SB2’s blog entries but fail to see the negative aspects of this one.
    
    Perhaps someone can explain it to me – please.
    
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    March 8, 2020 8:35pm
    - Duncan Brown
      
      Herd mentality, us and them….
      
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      March 8, 2020 11:06pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Jacinda will be there front and centre all hijabed up and hugging and kissing damn the virus
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:32am
  - Michael NZ
    
    please…….
    
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    March 8, 2020 1:01pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  ‘Has Jacinda Ardern given a minute’s thought to what the family members of the killed and shot are going to have to relive next week?’
  
  No.
  
  It is about photo ops for her eminence.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:41am
- Pete George
  
  As can be expected there are varying views on anniversary memorials of tragedies. Some survivors and families like them, some don’t.
  
  Pike River is one example. The Erebus air crash is another – some families appreciated a recent apology ‘on behalf of NZ’ – Erebus disaster: PM offers apology on behalf of NZ government, Air New Zealand. Some will have had bad memories resurfacing.
  
  There’s also mixed feelings in the mosque memorial. Thee above link shows one.
  
  But also Christchurch imam Gamal Fouda calls for an annual memorial event for March 15 victims
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:45am
  - igm
    
    There are more important and worrying goings on in NZ than this.
    
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    March 8, 2020 10:05am
  - MCos
    
    My father, who volunteered at the start of WWII & was in overseas with the NZ Army from Dec ‘39 until the end, didn’t like Anzac Day parades.
    People have different ways of commentating events.
    
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    March 8, 2020 10:38am
    - igm
      
      Does the Wahine disaster move into oblivion also . . . after all, there is only one group that matter to our unelected unwanted PM.
      
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      March 8, 2020 12:30pm
  - Jack5
    
    Jacinderella is the apology queen. Apologising for events or effects you had no responsibility for can be suspect.
    
    Over-apologising can be a sign of anxiety disorder.
    
    Perhaps Jacinderella’s suffering from it, or perhaps the whole bloody country.
    
    https://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/anxiety-schmanxiety/2015/11/not-sorry-over-apologising-with-an-anxiety-disorder
    
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    March 8, 2020 10:54am
  - mark15
    
    Yes Pete, the granny managed to find one…
    
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    March 8, 2020 1:25pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Ardern doesn`t give a toss, she`s got an election coming up and a CV to embellish for her preferred gig at the UN.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:51am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Sorry bros – hang on a sec. Do you think they won’t attend?
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:05am
- doggone7
  
  Yes she has. Anyone who thinks given the world she lives in and decisions she has to make, that she hasn’t given the situation serious thought, is a plonker.
  
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  March 8, 2020 11:23am
  - Tall Man
    
    She may have given it thought but the thought was how she can get the max from the event.
    
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    March 8, 2020 12:43pm
Souvlaki

No…because to her they dont REALLY matter.Its the self agrandisement/ publicity which IS the ( tranparent) aim.
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March 8, 2020 9:25am
KevO'Brien

Christchurch is in alert mode. Churches have instructions about next week. Tarrant should have been sectioned and this nuisance put to rest.
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March 8, 2020 9:26am
- Tall Man
  
  The police should have “established” a link with a terrorist group and handed him over to the Americans for “processing” in Cuba.
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:32am
- mark15
  
  Churches have instructions?
  To close down for the week?
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:36am
- JibberJabber
  
  Why would Christchurch be on alert, has Cindy imported some more of Tarrants’ Australian mates and got the cops to arm them?
  
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  March 8, 2020 9:54am
  - Batman
    
    Probably the local South island racists.
    
    For instance, the little dick who posed outside the Al Noor mosque in a Punisher face mask.
    
    Or the skinheads.
    
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    March 8, 2020 12:06pm
    - Tall Man
      
      That “freedom of expression” thingy is a real bugger isn’t it ………
      
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      March 8, 2020 12:39pm
      - Batman
        
        Does stomping Asian people count as that?
        
        Seems to be their M.O.
        
        Also if you think the punisher mask thing is fine then you need to read up on white supremacists and their recent penchant for using it as a militia symbol
        
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        March 8, 2020 2:44pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Freedom of expression would not include violence against another just like moderation won’t stop a terrorist attack.
        
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        March 8, 2020 5:09pm
      - SB 2
        
        Tall Man, it is all about encouraging and facilliating civilised norms and values in the community. But that won’t necessarily stop the loonies, crackpots and fanatics in our midst whether under the guise of freedom of expression or not
        
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        March 8, 2020 8:06pm
- sooty
  
  Gunship in the air,
  Battle trucks on the ground,
  Snipers on the roof,
  Cones and barricades by the truck load,
  Plod by the score,
  Cindy’s coming to town!
  The only thing that would turn her away is a corona outbrake!
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:01am
  - Tall Man
    
    “The only thing that would turn her away is a corona outbrake”
    
    Or a “better” more newsworthy tragedy elsewhere.
    
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    March 8, 2020 12:41pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      No, I think even if there was a significant risk of corona virus infection, Ms Ardern would still attend as many public and private March 15 commemorations as possible.
      “Look at me, look at me. I am one of you and you are us. Even though I might get sick, it is worth it to be able to stand beside you all today.”
      Don’t forget to vote for me in September.
      By the way, there will be an opinion poll coming round shortly and you might be contacted………
      
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      March 8, 2020 4:02pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Usual suspects trying to manufacture some drama to serve freedom curtailing agenda.
  
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  March 8, 2020 11:26am
- Michael NZ
  
  sectioned or sanctioned?
  
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  March 8, 2020 1:03pm
Blackbob

You mean in between planned pressers and mag interviews?
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March 8, 2020 9:26am
Doubledimp

Question about financial terms – I am looking at buying a third rental property, and wanted to know what sort of ratio between debt and house values I could borrow up to? Anyone with experience in this who could confirm the terms used and possible limits banks will set?
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March 8, 2020 9:30am
- Tall Man
  
  80% if you have the income and that is the primary ratio the banks are concerned about.
  
  There is a range of flexibility within the banks so you need to shop around.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:38pm
- Michael NZ
  
  It’s all about,
  Good reliable tenants.
  
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  March 8, 2020 1:05pm
- Ian Boag
  
  If you want it to be cash-neutral – “wash its face” – need no further cash injections – then 50% is the number. Banks will lend you more than that, but you will be feeding it over and above the rent …..
  
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  March 8, 2020 2:48pm
Maggie Pie

My partners away, so went out for dinner in Parnell last night with a couple of friends from work. When i came out of the toilet and headed back to our table, a guy at the bar stopped me and asked….” if I was the girl in the Lighting Direct ad?” She’s not even a blonde – DUH!!
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March 8, 2020 9:40am
- Tall Man
  
  Luckily I never watch commercial telly anymore but unlike ardern I don’t need too as I get my info form all the wonderful posters on here 😉
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:35pm
- Ruahine
  
  I have heard better pickup lines Maggie.
  This a true story. I am sitting in a bar in Western Australia. Guy and a Girl sitting nearby. Guy trying to get Girl to go to his place for the night. Guy says to the Girl. How do you like your eggs in the morning? Girl as quick as a flash replied Unfertilised!!. With that she grabbed her phone and car keys and left the bar.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:49pm
slightlyrighty

This next week will be an interesting one. Jacinda will have to put every lesson she ever learned in communications to look like she is not milking a national tragedy while milking a national tragedy.

The issue is, should National mention this, they could be accused of milking a national tragedy by accusing Jacinda of milking a national tragedy even though she would be trying to not look as if she is milking the national tragedy.

It’s inception politics…
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March 8, 2020 9:41am
- Wired-one
  
  Considering the Muslim community does not want a service held for this terrorist attack. It’s pretty fair to say that Ardern pushing forward with it is milking a tragedy for her own benefit.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:52pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It will rebound–there is already unnecessary tension in Christchurch with helicopters buzzing around during the night.
    
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    March 8, 2020 3:01pm
John Warren

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/411194/christchurch-terror-attack-muslim-leader-calls-for-proper-compensation-of-victims
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March 8, 2020 9:52am
- Tall Man
  
  So they want more than the ordinary Kiwi gets on ACC. Sounds fair as ardern has said they are the special people but hang on, weren’t they “us”……
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:33pm
- artemisia
  
  According to the article referenced many of the injured on the mosque attack were taxi drivers or truck drivers. Really? Most were taxi / truck drivers? Not all will be immigrants, some are. Where is the immigration skills list?
  
  Not sure that taxpayers will be very sympathetic for those taxi drivers and truck drivers who are still getting 80% of their previous income from ACC and some now want more.
  
  I wonder if in some cases previous income was less than could be proved, thus ACC is not enough now.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:43pm
- Swifty
  
  In this country we have a no-fault comprehensive accident compensation scheme which pays out 80% of one’s lost earnings.
  
  Pretty good I reckon.
  
  As soon as we start making exceptions, regardless of how emotionally appealing they may seem, then the floodgates will open with legions of others pleading for similar special treatment – and all New Zealand workers and businesses will have to pay even more and more into the fund.
  
  At least this guy could have been honest and said that he favours NZers paying more in ACC fees each year so he can receive even more money each week – instead of constantly referring to ‘the government’.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:56pm
  - DeepBlue
    
    You mean lost ‘declared’ earnings.
    
    To wit post Kaikoura earthquake only businesses with verified financial records showing they were viable businesses received govn wage assistance.
    
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    March 8, 2020 7:26pm
slightlyrighty

Why is the left failing worldwide? Why have they lost in the US, the UK, Australia?

Why have the Labour Party failed to eat into the National Parties support over the last 2 years?

Why are the Greens tanking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzYHBPTfXCI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0IKhAO92e9kLQmhny6ILWbG0oUUYnx_sN67zfIIEALn3I4zloNwHKTOSQ
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March 8, 2020 9:56am
- Tall Man
  
  Seriously, you really need to ask that…. 🙂
  
  Look at the standard of comments form lefties on here and the non ability of ardern,,,,,,
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:34pm
Loddenthinks

Can someone please explain the moderating policy to me?

The blog says that if you’re a new commenter (I’m not) then after the first couple of posts your comments will automatically appear.

This is clearly nonsense – every single comment goes into moderation, in many cases for hours on end.

Polite emails enquiring if assistance is required to establish bona fides go unanswered, and in the meantime there’s the sound of crickets on the blog.

Either follow your own rules, change them so we know not to bother commenting, or if it’s some kind of compromise, then for goodness sake get some moderators to do their job!
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March 8, 2020 10:01am
- Batman
  
  Perhaps just an update to the page is needed.
  
  Comments are held until approved by the moderators.
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:04pm
  - Tall Man
    
    As I suggested previously, why not hold the topics until moderators are available.
    
    Yesterday was an exercise in total futility.
    
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    March 8, 2020 12:30pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Why, Batman, would you favour instinctively the more intrusive / more restrictive form of moderation?
    
    Why aren’t you in favour of a reasonable method that would allow immediate posting of a comment from someone who (after years of commenting on Kiwiblog) had never made a comment that the blog’s owner had found offensive or worthy of ‘special clearance’?
    
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    March 8, 2020 10:00pm
    - Batman
      
      I have no view. That is entirely the domain of DPF.
      
      I’m just a volunteer.
      
      Also, WordPress has, like all platforms, technical limitations. So that’s part of it.
      
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      March 8, 2020 10:19pm
- Michael NZ
  
  Good luck with that Lodden.
  I emailed David Farrar direct and asked for non moderation and why, just as everyone said we should.
  
  1. I haven’t even had an acknowledgement.
  2. no decision after 2 weeks.
  
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  March 8, 2020 1:07pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You could try emailing him again.
    
    I had so many of my emails ignored about the abusive/defamatory comments I was receiving here, that I gave up….and now only notify DPF if the abusive comment has a third party/agency implication.
    
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    March 8, 2020 4:48pm
- Misha Beattie
  
  As Batman says, the guidance is out of date. What you describe is the policy that applied before 15 March 2019. Now all comments are moderated. That can take from a few minutes to a few hours. (The moderators are volunteers.)
  
  The only way to escape moderation is to either comment under your real name (which is verified) OR include in your profile a link to a source that contains your real name, e.g. a business you own, facebook, linkedin, or any other social media.
  
  I hope that clears things up for you 🙂
  
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  March 8, 2020 1:49pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Thanks Misha (if this ever gets published). What I describe is the policy as published by the proprietor of the blog. If it’s nearly a year out of date that’s pretty poor, IMO.
    
    Thank you for the tips ‘n’ tricks, I’ll see if I can use one of those methods, but really I have little hope based on my experience and that of others.
    
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    March 8, 2020 3:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Remember when Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were the darlings of the media mosh pit?

Woody Allen book pulped after walkout at publisher
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51777650
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March 8, 2020 10:11am
- David Garrett
  
  Maggy’ “Manhattan” was always one of my favourite Woody Allen movies…you will recall the plot: 42 year old writer has an affair with a 17 year old student…he breaks up with her partly because she is “just a kid”…
  
  And then Allen married his much younger step daughter…
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:22am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I can’t stand Woody Allen…his puerile, obvious jokes are boring..
    
    I’ve seen “Bananas, and Everything you always wanted to know about sex, but…) and have never had any desire to see anything else from him.
    
    But what a weird existence the kids must have had …
    
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    March 8, 2020 10:36am
    - Nermal
      
      Me neither. I never got the New York, Jewish angst thing. Could only watch 15 minutes of the recent “Uncut Gems” before I gave up
      
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      March 8, 2020 11:31am
    - John Warren
      
      Mia Farrow always came across to me as batty – you can see a kind of madness in her eyes. In the weirdness battle there may not have been much between Woody and her, and the kids would have been caught in all the crossfire.
      
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      March 8, 2020 12:01pm
    - Fletch
      
      I started to watch that movie where he is a robot, but found it very unfunny….
      
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      March 8, 2020 3:28pm
Komata

Kev@0926

Perhaps, but then the PTPM would have missed out in her chance to show ‘Empathy’ and to distribute hugs to those who don’t want them. All to show, of course, just how ‘caring’ she is and help win an election. ‘Feelz’ always trumps ‘reality’ in her world.
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March 8, 2020 10:12am
Jack5

National MP and broadcasting spokesperson Melissa Lee has been speaking on the Maori Affairs Select Committee. Stuff reports:

National Party broadcasting spokesperson Melissa Lee asked that with RNZ and TVNZ “focusing more on reo”, why hadn’t the government given more money to iwi radio stations to serve fluent speakers.

The country’s 21 tribal radio stations get $500,000 each a year from the State funding agency Te Mangai Paho.

Does National really want to give more money to this race-based radio chain?

It seems Lee was the National MP on watch (or supposed to have been on watch) when Wily Willie Jackson’s coup Maorified Radio NZ while National was in power.

Doesn’t give much confidence National will stand up to the Left’s planned State media group covering TV and radio with branches into print media.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/410947/funding-for-iwi-radio-stations-under-scrutiny
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March 8, 2020 10:45am
- Batman
  
  Race-based radio?
  
  Lighten up. They’re a group of pokey little community stations.
  
  White folks have an entire monolith for talking about white people things in RNZ haha
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:02pm
  - Jack5
    
    Radio NZ a monolith for white folks? You obviously don’t listen to it, Batman.
    
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    March 8, 2020 1:00pm
    - Batman
      
      Whenever I tune in they’re talking about some book, or a play, or a deep discussion about allergy stigmas.
      
      It’s the whitest station in the country. A bit of te reo doesn’t change that.
      
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      March 8, 2020 2:52pm
      - Jack5
        
        A “bit of te reo”?
        
        The National station is sometimes almost in NZ Pidgin.
        
        Didn’t you notice RNZ tried to all but crush the Concert Programme to make way for Maori and Pacifika hip-hop?
        
        Keep up with the play, Batman.
        
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        March 8, 2020 3:08pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Books, plays and allergies not for brown folk then? Too “advanced” perhaps?
        
        Could you be any more racist?
        
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        March 8, 2020 9:05pm
      - Batman
        
        Careful. Playing the disingenuous racist accusation card will earn you a ban (approved by other Mods, of course).
        
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        March 8, 2020 10:22pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Really?
        
        You make a statement that by implication suggests that non-white citizens couldn’t possibly be interested in certain aspects of culture. Your clear reasoning is that a lack of interest is down to ethnicity.
        
        You lump those people in a skin-colour basket and you then have the audacity to threaten a commenter for calling that out as racism.
        
        Look to yourself and your clearly race-based comment before throwing your weight around.
        
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        March 9, 2020 7:08am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    OMG – and you’re a moderator?
    
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    March 8, 2020 3:03pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Curious isn’t it?
      
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      March 8, 2020 10:26pm
- Misha Beattie
  
  I have no issues with some State funding for Maori language radio stations. As for RNZ, National should either fix it or shut it down. But as you say, they are most unlikely to do anything.
  
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  March 8, 2020 1:54pm
  - sam green
    
    I love RNZ. My fave is “critter of the week”. I particularly like Michelle Boag when she’s on “the panel”. I wonder how things will turn out for her?
    
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    March 8, 2020 11:40pm
JibberJabber

Indeed, why can`t our debates be more like these..
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/feyzfx/why_cant_our_debates_be_more_like_this/

Last clip not for the faint of heart…but oh so naughty.
Safe for work.

“The Democratic Debate Club”

punches faintly thrown in the distance
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March 8, 2020 10:50am
- yossarian
  
  That’s hilarious!
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:59pm
burt

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/renting/120069021/northland-state-housing-tenant-faces-eviction-for-not-using-all-the-bedrooms

After 15 years living in a house bigger than she needs this person is refusing to move to a smaller house so another family can have access to a house big enough for them – and she says NZ people are not caring.

She should seriously look in a mirror to see who the uncaring assholes are.
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March 8, 2020 10:52am
- Ruahine
  
  Similar to what happened in Glen Innes. Presumably the Harawiri heavies will be there ‘supporting’ her.
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/6770593/Glen-Innes-housing-protest-escalates
  
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  March 8, 2020 11:03am
  - burt
    
    What surprises me is that rather than feeling gratitude for the 15 years she has enjoyed living on other peoples money she feels outraged that she nay need to move to a smaller place also provided by other peoples money.
    
    Why do we tolerate this kind of sense of entitlement?
    
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    March 8, 2020 12:27pm
    - igm
      
      It is encouraged by Labour, especially Sepulini, who has given them lifelong tenancy, even if they default on rent, produce drugs, or wreck the properties.
      It is an outrage and as yet, Robertson has not told us how much, and where, the money is coming from to house these self-entitled misfits.
      
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      March 8, 2020 12:42pm
    - Swifty
      
      What a selfish cow.
      
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      March 8, 2020 12:44pm
- Misha Beattie
  
  Yep. It is a serious problem which National was well on the way to fixing, by regularly moving folk on to smaller places (e.g. after your kids leave home). That has all changed. Now about 80 percent of State House tenants are exempt from accomodation needs reviews, including those aged over 65. Plus those with mental health issues, etc. And lots of State house tenants have mental health issues.
  
  This woman should be moved to a 2 bedroom unit so a large family can have her current house.
  
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  March 8, 2020 1:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear,
seems some places have sold out of protective body suits
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/120079965/coronavirus-survival-food-rations-sell-out-chemical-suits-sought

I reckon the least some of us old girls in the KKK
(Kaiti Krochet Klub) could do is start production of some body suits for our KB fans.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1a/81/4d/1a814d966bf5f993da8c4f958af3915d.jpg

Send your vital details to:
Sekrtry, (KKK)
Kaiti Mall
Gizzy 4010
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March 8, 2020 11:08am
- MrTips
  
  Do you do one with a non-removable muzzle for SB and ztev?
  
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  March 8, 2020 11:55am
- John Warren
  
  Can we see a pic of the product first, Mags? And could you do me a mankini?
  
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  March 8, 2020 12:03pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Can we see a pic of the product first
    Click on my 2nd link.
    
    a mankini?
    We don’t cater for such sexist concepts..
    we only produce gender-neutral products.
    
    These are our bathing shorts
    https://contestimg.wish.com/api/webimage/594fe4293b988f70f20a4b98-large.jpg?cache_buster=43694ab9484168645022c9593a0d9266
    
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    March 8, 2020 1:56pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/120101747/super-rugby-highlanders-coach-aaron-mauger-admits-young-side-is-in-a-rut

Well, maybe ex-players don’t necessarily make the best selectors and/or coaches.
Can someone who knows about these things please tell me how the selectors go about their business?
Do they travel the country looking for talent? Do they visit schools, attend ITM cup matches, hold auditions ?
Are they controlled by NZ Rugby administrators?
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March 8, 2020 11:52am
- MCos
  
  I don’t know, but I was at a secondary schools 7s tournament a year ago. Also there were scouts from some of the super franchises plus Australian NRL clubs.
  The Warriors sign kids up while they’re still at school.
  
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  March 8, 2020 3:16pm
  - greybeard
    
    Thanks.
    
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    March 8, 2020 3:57pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu8hOQfsw3A
Could Bojo face his first Commons defeat soon? Some MPs don’t like the idea of Huawei participating in the UKs 5G network.
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March 8, 2020 12:35pm
- Michael NZ
  
  I hope so.
  Boris needs a smack (political) every now and then to remind him that the people matter…..
  China (The CCP) is the enemy of Freedom and Liberty everywhere.
  
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  March 8, 2020 2:53pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwiyrbADpI
Greece does not yield. It’s good that the Fourth Reich is supporting Greece. Poland has sent 100 police, and border guards.
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March 8, 2020 12:36pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  In the words of Napoleon Bonaparte
  
  “Give them a whiff of grape” that will stop them.
  
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  March 8, 2020 4:01pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    French wine that smelly, huh?
    
    Maybe some really ripe cheese would do the trick.
    
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    March 8, 2020 5:23pm
  - Jack5
    
    There is scepticism about whether Napoleon said that, Fighting Temeraire (see link below).
    
    According to Google Translate, “a whiff of grape” in French would be “odeur de raisin”. Doesn’t sound right.
    
    Grapeshot was round shot and small bits of scrap separated by a metal disk from the gunpowder, and was used mainly against infantry.
    
    Did Napoleon say that phrase?
    
    https://jonathangifford.com/napoleons-whiff-of-grapeshot/
    
    Apropos your pseudonoym, FT: Turner’s painting of the Fighting Temeraire being towed to the breakers is a mighty picture.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire#/media/File:Turner,_J._M._W._-_The_Fighting_Téméraire_tugged_to_her_last_Berth_to_be_broken_(cropped).jpg
    
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    March 8, 2020 6:12pm
mandk

All the evils of NZF have been enabled by Labour and the Greens.

All the wrongdoings of the Greens have been enabled by Labour and NZF.

All the cover ups and incompetence of Labour have been enabled by NZF and the Greens.

They must all be defeated.
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March 8, 2020 12:39pm
- calendar girl
  
  Well said, mandk.
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:24pm
Misha Beattie

According to the latest WHO status report, Iceland has 45 Corona virus cases and Russia has 7.

That would surprise me.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd
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March 8, 2020 12:44pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Russia probably shot the rest.
  
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  March 8, 2020 3:38pm
Wired-one

I have watched both The Nation and Q&A over the last two days. Both these shows have had an interview with Dr of Theology…David Clark. What a complete incompetent fool this man is. He believes the Coronavirus will not spread throughout NZ due to his governments fast and comprehensive response…Seriously being told to self isolate is apparently the solution to this. God I hope kiwis wake up by September. We deserve better than these inept fools.
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March 8, 2020 12:46pm
Swifty

Carmel Sepuloni says “Don’t be stupid like me….”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12314750

Well, there’s not much chance of that Carmel, is there?
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March 8, 2020 1:04pm
Fletch

I was in the supermarket today, looking to buy some more surface wipes for the bathroom, and blowed if they weren’t sold out of those, too. Are people using them to wipe their hands with or something? It’s getting stupid.
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March 8, 2020 1:13pm
- SB 2
  
  Fletch wiping hands with ordinary soap will do perfectley .
  
  Also wiping with diluted bleach a highly effective method at infection contol in the bathroom etc.
  
  Useful preparation guidelines here,
  
  https://www.cph.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/med0058.pdf
  
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  March 8, 2020 4:12pm
MrTips

Cool science and good news: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867420302294#undfig1

Short story: 2019-nCOV gets into our cells by binding a protein receptor called ACE2. ACE2 is highly abundant in lung. The spike protein of 2019-nCOV is like the original 2003 SARS spike protein which allows “puncture” of cells and entry. The spike protein gets primed by a enzyme called TMPRSS2. Serum containing antibodies to SARS from 2003 survivors blocked the spike protein and protease activity. Furthermore, there is an existing TMPRSS2 inhibitor that is clinically cleared for other uses that WORKS in blocking 2019-nCOV cell entry.

In other words, there may be a good drug option that could be used right now.
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March 8, 2020 1:42pm
- SB 2
  
  The good news was predicted on RNZ last week due to China early releasing the Coivi 19 genome sequence sparking unprecedented international scientific co-operation
  
  “Inovio Pharmaceuticals set to trial Covid-19 vaccine in April”
  
  Inovio Pharmaceuticals has expedited its timeline for the development of a Covid-19 vaccine candidate, INO-4800, with human clinical trials scheduled for April.
  
  The company already had a vaccine candidate in Phase II development for similar coronavirus that leads to the development of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).
  
  Inovio leveraged its DNA medicines platform to design INO-4800 within three hours of the publication of the novel coronavirus’ genetic sequence.
  
  In January, the company started preclinical testing of the Covid-19 vaccine candidate and obtained funding from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) to support preclinical and initial clinical development.
  Preclinical testing is ongoing, while the company developed and finalised human clinical trial designs. Inovio has generated 3,000 INO-4800 doses for trials conducted in patients across the US, China and South Korea….
  
  https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/inovio-covid-19-vaccine-timeline/
  
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  March 8, 2020 4:05pm
Michael NZ

Couldn’t happen to a nastier person, but Mr Schumer.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/chuck_schumers_threats.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/gun_owners_of_america_uses_alinsky_tactics_against_sen_chuck_schumer.html
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March 8, 2020 2:51pm
- curry4me
  
  Michael NZ: Excellent idea. Everyone on the ‘right’ should use Saul alinskys’ tactics as applicable with our values and principles.
  
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  March 8, 2020 7:22pm
Jack5

Moderation of posts at Kiwiblog is much improved today. Thanks, folk!
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March 8, 2020 3:15pm
- Misha Beattie
  
  Agree. If the lag is a few hours it pretty much destroys any semblance of ‘debate’.
  
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  March 8, 2020 4:46pm
- calendar girl
  
  Yes, the timings were hopeless yesterday, and killed Kiwiblog’s flow of debate dead for several hours.
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:39pm
rightoverlabour

Fuck Wikipedia.

https://electroverse.net/wikipedia-deletes/
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March 8, 2020 3:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  
  http://joannenova.com.au/2020/03/wikipedia-deletes-the-list-of-scientists-who-are-skeptics-of-the-sacred-consensus/
  
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  March 8, 2020 4:53pm
  - SB 2
    
    Not in this instance ,
    
    The Great Global Warming Swindle
    
    rom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    The Great Global Warming Swindle is a polemical documentary film that suggests that the scientific opinion on climate change is influenced by funding and political factors, and denies the existence of a scientific consensus about the reality and causes of global warming. The program was formally criticised by Ofcom, the UK broadcasting regulatory agency, which upheld complaints of misrepresentation made by David King.
    
    The film, made by British television producer Martin Durkin, presents scientists, economists, politicians, writers, and others who dispute the scientific consensus regarding anthropogenic global warming. The programme’s publicity materials assert that man-made global warming is “a lie” and “the biggest scam of modern times.”[1][2] Its original working title was “Apocalypse my arse”, but the title The Great Global Warming Swindle was later adopted as an allusion to the 1980 mockumentary The Great Rock ‘n’ Roll Swindle about British punk band the Sex Pistols.[3]……””
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
    
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    March 8, 2020 5:50pm
Tasman Terror

In a pandemic I feel confident we will be well led. After all our Prime Minister has worked in a takeaway and has a BA in communications from Waikato University. Also have you noticed how much more she’s visiting New Zealand since this annoying flu thing has been in the news? Hijab anyone?
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March 8, 2020 3:54pm
rightoverlabour

Australian Bushfires and “Climate Change” Watch this ( the imbedded video) and have a laugh….

http://joannenova.com.au/2020/03/csiro-forgets-to-mention-no-study-explicitly-shows-climate-change-caused-bushfires/
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March 8, 2020 4:15pm
- SB 2
  
  rightoverlabour,
  
  You laughter will be very shortlived,
  
  Yes, Climate Change Did Influence Australia’s Unprecedented Bushfires
  Such an extreme fire season is at least 30 per cent more likely because of global warming, a new analysis finds
  
  “…The analysis, which has also been submitted to the journal Natural Hazards and Earth System Sciences, suggests that while events of this magnitude will remain relatively rare in the future, firefighting efforts and other disaster-response systems need to prepare for rising odds or they risk being overwhelmed. “I hope that people will see this as the study that did show there is a link between climate change and the bushfires,” says co-author Geert Jan van Oldenborgh of the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute….”
  
  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/yes-climate-changeYes, Climate Change Did Influence Australia’s Unprecedented Bushfires Such an extreme fire season is at least 30 percent more likely because of global warming, a new analysis finds-did-influence-australias-unprecedented-bushfires/
  
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  March 8, 2020 5:58pm
Swifty

Aerial footage of dingo hunting pigs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMUx4PBplfU

Quite cool.
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March 8, 2020 4:49pm
oldfella

This is Joe Biden reading, with a teleprompter, off a prepared script. And Democrats mock Trump?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/03/07/bold-strategy-obidenbama-democrat-joe-biden-tells-supporters-we-cannot-win-this-re-election-we-can-only-re-elect-donald-trump/
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March 8, 2020 5:13pm
- curry4me
  
  oldfella: Nobody deserves this kind of elder abuse. It’s a terrible indictment of the Democratic party.
  
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  March 8, 2020 7:33pm
chiz

Some years ago there was an international rugby match in Cardiff. On the train from London, three Aussies found themselves sitting opposite three Kiwis. The Aussies complained to the Kiwis about the price of the train tickets. The Kiwis said that they only bought one ticket for the three of them, which made the Aussies snigger because they knew a ticket collector would catch them.

Just before the ticket collector arrived the Kiwis piled into one of the toilets. The guard saw the engaged sign, hammered on the door and shouted, “Tickets.” A hand poked round the door with a ticket, which the ticket collector took before moving on.

On the return journey the Aussies, not to be outdone by Kiwis, only bought one ticket. The Kiwis said that they didn’t need a ticket on the return journey. Again, just before the ticket collector arrived the Kiwis piled into one of the toilets. The Aussies piled into the toilet opposite. Then one of the Kiwis came out of their toilet and hammered on the door of the toilet that the Aussies were in. “Ticket,” he shouted.
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March 8, 2020 6:43pm
- Tall Man
  
  Ha ha well done.
  
  Unfortunately for us, these days in ardern in the dunny handing over the ticket.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:22pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/120032325/newcomer-cast-as-david-bain-in-tvnzs-black-hands-series
This is crap.
My contention is that Robyn Baine shot his family, David returned home, found out what had happened and then shot his father.
I think David has so far got away with one murder, even though he has been absolved for more.
This type of program is designed to elevate his status to some sort of hero, or at least a scapegoat.
What crap.,
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March 8, 2020 6:49pm
- Tall Man
  
  Oh dear, you’re not related to the lundy nutter are you.
  
  Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…. Well fuck me, it’s a duck.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:20pm
- Swifty
  
  Unfortunately for your contention, greybeard, there is a mountain of evidence that points to David as the killer of the whole family – and none pointing to Robin as the killer of any of them; only rumour and innuendo.
  
  And I might have thought if the series is based on Martin van Beynen’s material then it unlikely David Bain will emerge a hero. Far from it.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:47pm
Tasman Terror

Jacinda is the Kiwi Meghan Markle of politics. They love the perks but not the work. They only love the photo shoots they’re in charge of. They adore visiting pre schools. Relentlessly hug strangers. Want to take kids out of poverty while they live in expensive houses. Have achieved nothing; and will achieve nothing.Were put in positions of prominence by mixed up men. Spend most of their time out of New Zealand.Will both retire to North America.We’re all beginning to realise they were a stupid mistake and expensive mistake, and not amusing anymore.
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March 8, 2020 6:50pm
- LTA1955
  
  Most politicians are narcissistic but some are just sociopaths, the PTPM is well established in the latter.
  
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  March 8, 2020 10:53pm
Monique Watson

“It is by no means inconceivable that Jacinda will be a one term Prime Minister.”
Channel News Asia:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/new-zealand-jacinda-ardern-faces-election-struggle-despite-12514024

We’ll see more pieces about the chances of a one term Labour led Government along with, “whatever happened to Jacindamania”.
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March 8, 2020 7:07pm
Kabull

How did SB2 get released into the blog space?
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March 8, 2020 7:35pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Dunno but his next post proves climate change causes earthquakes.
  
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  March 8, 2020 8:06pm
- Tall Man
  
  And we all thought she was an idiot ……
  
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