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krazykiwi

I’d prefer a bottle in front of me, rather than a frontal lobotomy.
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January 13, 2020 8:05am
- Ed Snack
  
  Isn’t that supposed to be “prefer a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy” ?
  
  /end meme nazi
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:19am
- Lee C
  
  …often very similar things, though…
  
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  January 13, 2020 11:05am
tedbear

I read on RNZ some 3500 people with half a brain between them think introducing koalas into New Zealand is a good idea. Clearly these fruitcakes don’t know much about foodchains and why koalas are in Australia and not New Zealand from day one.
I’m surprised these loons haven’t added all Australia’s snakes, crocodiles, flightless parrots, wombats and spiders species as well. Perhaps because they’re not so cuddly.
African elephants aren’t doing too well either and their babies are sooo cute, so..
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January 13, 2020 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  We could send them back their possum, Bennet’s Wallaby, darma Wallaby, Magpies, “Gisborne” Cockroach and Eucalyptus tortoise beetle to replenish their forests.
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:47am
  - Earl Dumarest
    
    Need to be a little careful there – there is nothing in the Australian constitution that prevents motorcycle gang members that are being harassed by the AU Federal police operatives of “operation raptor” having a gun held to their head and invited to take a one-way holiday to NZ
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:54am
  - Paulus
    
    And Russel Norman !
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:58am
  - gravedodger
    
    Spur winged Plovers at the top of my list
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:00pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Unlike magpies, spur-winged plovers found their own way to NZ, so they are recognised as a native NZ species.
      
      ps…. seems they’re being called masked lapwings nowadays
      http://nzbirdsonline.org.nz/species/spur-winged-plover
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:47pm
- Jack5
  
  Import “cute” koalas? Some people still think possums are cute and keep captured young as pets, but usually only until they mature.
  
  Would we have enough gum trees to feed koalas, or would they soon be wreaking havoc on other trees and plants?
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:48am
  - Ian Boag
    
    My understanding is that if it isn’t a gum leaf, a koala won’t eat it. They are quite fussy about preferred gum species too. Slow movers (low energy diet) and relatively slow breeders. Spend most of the day resting.
    
    Like the pandas with bamboo shoots.
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:22am
    - MrTips
      
      sounds like our current govt too
      
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      January 13, 2020 9:34am
    - Tricati
      
      Sounds like a lot of our beneficiaries, other than slow breeders.
      
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      January 13, 2020 10:05am
    - Paulus
      
      And Koalas pee all over you if handled as they have small bladders and do not like being held.
      
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      January 13, 2020 10:59am
      - hookerphil
        
        Roll on the hug experience with the hug expert.
        
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        January 13, 2020 1:33pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Koalas are pretty picky about which Eucalypt species they eat.
    Our NI gum plantations are mainly E. fastigiata
    which isn’t on the list of preferred Koala foods.
    
    Koala will occasionally eat a few non-gum leaves, but they are never really much of their daily diet.
    http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~jpeng/KOALA/kfood.html
    
    The cold, wet winters of the Central NI would be a problem, I suspect.
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:26am
    - cmm
      
      We could always genetically engineer them to eat something else… maybe possums?
      
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      January 13, 2020 10:16am
    - TWEEDSE
      
      Surly Cindy could fly all the immigrant koalas in her 757 to a Pacific island for the winter. And get the navy to ship in eucalyptus food. Problem solved.
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:09pm
  - Wangas Feral
    
    Koalas are probably the most stupid mammal on the planet, baring your average lefty millennial. If you put gum leaves on a table in front of them they would starve because they cannot recognise those leaves as food. I am not sure there is much chance they move on to other types of trees.
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:33am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Koala are very selective feeders. We might admit some if they could be turned to feed on COL.They are not the least cuddly either despite gracing posters and TV as such–a good match for the COL.
    
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    January 13, 2020 1:58pm
- cmm
  
  More furry stuff to hunt…
  
  I wonder how well a koala thrashes around when it gets its head stuck in a Timms trap?
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:14am
  - sooty
    
    I heard the Koalas don’t eat our gumleaves!
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:18am
- cmm
  
  African Elephants are struggling in some places but doing too well in others. In Zim they need to cull thousands each year but have fallen behind due to lack of funding. Now they are overstocked by something like 20,000 elephants.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:16am
  - yossarian
    
    Whilst the lions in the Kruger National Park (that borders Mozambique and South Africa) are amongst the most well fed
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:19am
    - cmm
      
      It still amazes me that Kruger Park has managed to keep its name and has not been rebadged with some post-colonial name.
      
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      January 13, 2020 4:25pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Do they still have any krugers there?
        
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        January 13, 2020 4:38pm
- Sydney Alvarado
  
  They only eat selected eucalyptus leaves. That might be a problem.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:21am
- Inandout
  
  A few kiwi birds let go in the Oz bush might stop the fires.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:30am
  - Komata
    
    Inandout@0930
    
    I’m old enough to wonder about the use of the word ‘Birds’ in your sentence.
    
    Several green ones did come to mind, especially if they were to be sent on a one-way trip…
    
    Thought you should know…
    
    Thank you.
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:54am
- rouppe
  
  It’s simple to explain.
  
  1. “Oooh those poor Koala Bears”
  2. “Let’s SAVE them!”
  3. I know, I saw some eucalyptus trees last time I was driving to an XR sit-in, so…
  4. “Let’s bring them HERE!”
  5. Lots of clapping (or jazz hands) after realising just how clever, inclusive and diverse that would be.
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:54pm
hullkiwi

Seems Iran is becoming a live example of what happens when you lie to the people once too often with over blown rhetoric and actions…..

Be warned Jacinda, Winston, James and the virtue signaling woke left. Eventually, the sheeple realise they have been feed a diet of empty rhetoric and propoganda slogans……and then……
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January 13, 2020 8:06am
- mjw
  
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  and then …. they throw out the Nats and elect a Labour government! (Sorry, couldn’t resist)
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:13am
  - mandk
    
    You got it wrong. Winston Peters appointed a Labour government. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).
    
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    January 13, 2020 8:37am
  - Tall Man
    
    Well done, you highlight the issue showing that labour have nothing.
    
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    January 13, 2020 8:44am
  - Liberty
    
    MJW
    After nine years of stable government. Dear Leader only got a miserable 36%. That is not a mandate. Dear Leader only became Leader due to the reality that MMP is weighted to favor of losers.
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:58pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      MMP is ‘weighted’ to deliver a government supported by a majority of voters.
      
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      January 13, 2020 2:18pm
      - Liberty
        
        Mike
        
        National received 1,152,075 votes 15 list seats or 76,808 votes pr seat
        NZ First received a mungy 186,706 votes 9 list seats or 20,745 votes pr seat
        The MMP system is weighted in favor of loses.
        
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        January 13, 2020 4:15pm
      - Batman
        
        Dividing party vote (which isn’t strictly electorate based) by electorates, is obviously going to come out less favourable to smaller parties.
        
        So while we get your point, your way of doing it is not ideal.
        
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        January 13, 2020 4:30pm
      - Liberty
        
        Batman
        It is not dividing by electorates it is dividing by list seats.
        The reality is NZF and the Greens get far more list seats for the number of votes compared to National.
        
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        January 13, 2020 4:59pm
      - Batman
        
        So list places? Right. That’s not how it works though, with a fixed number of seats and factoring in electorate seats won by each party.
        
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        January 13, 2020 5:09pm
      - Greg Ettridge
        
        MMP
        Mostly Manipulated Propaganda
        
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        January 14, 2020 9:26am
- Simon
  
  Ardern is beyond virtue signalling she covered for a rapist and treated the victims like garbage.
  
  She can virtue signal all she likes
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:51am
  - tedbear
    
    She’ll be back over shortly to defend the man described as being in his mid-20s, is 190cm tall and of lean built with a sun-tanned complexion.
    He was wearing a distinctive high visibility orange mesh vest and he may have been with a group of similar-aged men.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/407209/woman-indecently-assaulted-at-bay-dreams-concert-in-nelson
    
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    January 13, 2020 2:53pm
    - rouppe
      
      Isn’t that Golly’s gig?
      
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      January 13, 2020 7:19pm
- Simon
  
  “Iran is becoming a live example of what happens ”
  
  The Iranian people yearn for the chance to vote for someone like Trump. There is no greater freedom. US is showing the way for the world yet again.
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:57am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Are MAGA red hats available in Tehran?
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:27am
- The King
  
  Imagine believing this rhetoric and propaganda about Iran, then accuse others of feeding on rhetoric and propaganda.
  
  The lack of discernment is astonishing.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:55am
  - The King
    
    Staged Iran protests were pathetically small and an obvious US intelligence gay op orchestrated in conjunction with the US media.
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:01am
Manolo

A band of unqualified politicians:
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/01/ministers-lacking-life-experience-dont-inspire-confidence-part-one/
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January 13, 2020 8:12am
- Positan
  
  Unqualified for virtually any task that requires competence, capability and inherent practicality of outlook.
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:39am
- freethinker
  
  Link doesnt,t work.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:42am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    It worked for me. Was slow loading as its a BFD article.
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:15am
- Stephieboy2
  
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  BFD by a certain JC who cites his credentials as ,
  
  JC
  
  “A right-wing crusader. Reached an age that embodies the dictum only the good die young. Country music buff. Ardent Anglophile. Hates hypocrisy and by association left-wing politics.”
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:18am
All_on_Red

Interesting data here from Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology
Over the past 100 years it’s actually been getting wetter…
http://reg.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/timeseries.cgi?graph=rain&area=aus&season=0112&ave_yr=T

Mind you this Newspaper article from 1868 shows a history of alternating Droughts and Floods from 1789 to 1864
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60828173
Crazy Country
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January 13, 2020 8:24am
- Stephieboy2
  
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  All on Red , Aussie farmers think very differently about the situation as they bear the brunt of severe cliamtes weather events ,
  
  “Australia drought: The ‘unlikely’ group calling for climate action”
  
  Australia has just experienced its hottest summer and a succession of extreme weather events – making climate policy a key issue in May’s national election. Now one traditionally improbable group is increasingly calling for action: farmers. Gary Nunn reports from Sydney.
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-47890319
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:47am
  - Paulus
    
    ScoMo must go its all his fault. There have been many fires and floods over the years also – this is not unique – like Christchurch Earthquake.
    Happened before over time and will happen again.
    The Left lost so they cannot accept that fact – usual worldwide Left Wing rhetoric.
    Ardern had better get ready too, if she returns from her holiday in Australia.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:06am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Actually reading your article it seems farmers agree they get floods and droughts.
    It’s a tough country to be a farmer in that’s for sure
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:15am
    - Stephieboy2
      
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      And beleivers in Climate change unlike you!
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stop telling lies with your stupid smears
        I just put up a link showing 75 years of changing weather and also data from BOM
        
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        January 13, 2020 12:49pm
    - Raphael
      
      It’s like the poem Dorothea MacKellar wrote about a century ago.
      http://australianpoems.tripod.com/mycountry.html
      
      ….
      I love a sunburnt country,
      A land of sweeping plains,
      Of ragged mountain ranges,
      Of droughts and flooding rains.
      I love her far horizons,
      I love her jewel-sea,
      Her beauty and her terror
      The wide brown land for me!
      ….
      Core of my heart, my country!
      Her pitiless blue sky,
      When, sick at heart, around us
      We see the cattle die
      But then the grey clouds gather,
      And we can bless again
      The drumming of an army,
      The steady soaking rain.
      
      Core of my heart, my country!
      Land of the rainbow gold,
      For flood and fire and famine
      She pays us back threefold.
      Over the thirsty paddocks,
      Watch, after many days,
      The filmy veil of greenness
      That thickens as we gaze
      ….
      
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      January 13, 2020 3:21pm
      - tf78
        
        Another great weather reference for Aussie is The Thorne Birds – great book
        
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        January 13, 2020 6:24pm
  - mark15
    
    The hottest summer since when?
    Since records began?
    Since the industrial revolution?
    Since the last ice age?
    Since the birth of mankind?
    Since the seperation of the continents?
    Since the dinosaurs?
    Since the cooling period?
    Can you narrow it down please?
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:21pm
hullkiwi

Seems the memo passed to RNZ in support of the CoL is to play the an and identity politics as hard as you can. I am referring to the on air references to Mr de Boer as a “right wing blogger”, in an attempt to stigmatise him and legitimise the actions of the police. Irrespective of what the source was for their search warrant, if what has been reported is true and did happen. The police have over reached themselves and people must be held accountable for such misuses and abuses of state given powers.
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January 13, 2020 8:24am
- freethinker
  
  Names & photos.Also the Judge who granted the warrant. All for data matching against the Labour membership roll.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:44am
- Sofia
  
  hullkiwi
  Do you wonder if the raid had been successful, would that have helped exonerate the Police, currently criticised for the amnesty being a seeming failure.
  That they had removed an illegal item from someone labelled “ring wing” or “far right” would have showed exactly what they wanted to signal.
  But the Police would do anything political … would they?
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:21am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Sofia,
    1. The labeling of people, and playing the man in an attempt to prove a point is wrong. When the man is played it usually indicates the argument is weak.
    The gentleman in question has been labelled right wing, in an attempt to suggest his views are extreme or beyond the norm (whatever that is?).
    Politicians of whatever hue have always done this, Muldoon (& his protege Winston Peters) being one of NZ’s most notable protagonists of this dark art.
    2. The pretence of the search was to find a weapon accessory (a magazine clip) that is now banded. Nothing was found, and no evidence to prove he ever owned such a magazine clip has been produced.
    
    However, what appears to be grounds for concern is the basis/grounds on which the police applied for and were then granted the search warrant. The police found nothing, but then what information were they acting upon? Was it a case of using a hypothetical situation provided in a submission presented to a parliamentary select committee protected under parliamentary privilege? It is a role of the police to investigate identified crime instances. It is not the role of the police to harass people, using the authorities of the state on the basis of an apparent (mis)interpretation of privileged information to prove there might be a crime. Even if they had found what they were looking for, and if some of what is being claimed is true, then there is every likelihood any case would be thrown out. This is because the evidence would be inadmissible, because the search warrant was invalid. And no the police because of their actions would not have been exonerated if they had found what they were looking for. Breaching the law to prove a crime, does not make one’s actions correct.
    
    As for Police overstepping their authority and acting in a political manner or in apparent conjunction with political approval, I commend to you Ian Wishart’s book, Absolute Power – The Helen Clark Years. In the book there is a chapter detailing incidents, by which Clark and colleagues blurred the independence of the police. And there was the use of the police by the Muldoon government. So sadly, police independence from being involved in matters political is not a given.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:55am
    - tf78
      
      I think basically they don’t like his on the spot video blogs.
      
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      January 13, 2020 6:27pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    It was a magazine.
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:54pm
    - Raphael
      
      that happened to be an integral and non-removable part of the rifle in question
      
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      January 13, 2020 3:23pm
      - Tall Man
        
        That’s what I was saying yesterday. I have never seen a lever action Western rifle with a detachable magazine and those that are now illegal due to capacity are an easy fix to reduce capacity to 10 rounds.
        
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        January 13, 2020 3:44pm
tedbear

Back in 2001 the IPCC stated in their https://web.archive.org/web/20181017074045/http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/505.htm “..a strategy must recognise what is possible. In climate research and modelling, we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”
Not possible, but we won’t let that stop us.

How could anyone in their wildest dreams make a copy of a (in their words) ‘coupled non-linear chaotic (weather) system’ with a computer? Do any of their computer models have a solar system like Earth’s, sun, moon, oceans, clouds, active volcanoes, eco system, rivers, mountains etc etc. In other words none of their computer models are exact replicas of Planet Earth’s coupled non-linear chaotic weather system.
Of course not. All they are are desktop computers, like the one I’m typing on now, just a bit bigger.
Absolutely absurd to contemplate.

Thus it’s on such apallingly shoddy and fraudulent fake science that the UN and their cronies want to undertake some of the worst crimes against humanity ever seen. De-population, de-industrialization, de-modernization, forcing billions of people back into pre-industrial subsistence can cause disaster of a scale never been seen ever before.
Solar and wind power won’t be sustainable to prevent any of that.
Cost of Electricity and fuel is already causing suffering to poor and middle class people worldwide. That’s billions of people. They won’t die from climate change. They will die from the “solutions” proposed by the UN led social engineering, New World Order, global socialism.
There will have to be something like the Nuremberg trial for the engineers of this human disaster in the making.
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January 13, 2020 8:25am
- Kabull
  
  And now we have Shaw and Hipkins trumpeting the new climate science package being rolled out to schools, so that kids can be properly educated on what is going on, what they must do, and what the prognosis is if they don’t play the game. As well as the nonsensical, futurist prediction ‘display/game’ now running at Te Papa.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:04am
  - projectman
    
    “so that kids can be properly educated…” –>
    “so that kids can be properly brainwashed…”.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:22am
  - Rich Prick
    
    It will slot right in between gender studies and white people are evil studies.
    
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    January 13, 2020 1:48pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  The UNIPCC know they can’t do it. They also know of the other problems of numerical computation in binary. Errors propagate. One third of the data is not there either so has to be filled in by more computers chugging away to create it.
  
  This is fraud for the purpose of stealing political control. Now they want our children activated and mentally disturbed through their claims of the world ending shortly. How many parents tell their children that they will be terminated at the end of the next 10 years? That would be monstrous.
  
  Climate change activism has become criminal. The evidence does not meet standards acceptable in Court. Many proponents now appear as nutty fanatics who have abandoned reason or the possibility of it. Issues of destroying habitats because of plastic bags or some critter losing its place because of a bulldozer have nothing to do with weather. It’s never been best practice to spoil one’s nest.
  
  Weather, we have to live with it and it does change. We adapt to daily temperatures. If we build a city on an estuary should we be surprised if the soil sinks? Sometimes the sea doesn’t sneak up but humans push the ground down like in Kirpati.
  Prudently adapt. Hope.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:39am
Maggie Pie

I’m baaaack 😀
We had a fab few days at our friends Gary & Jill’s timeshare. The weather wasn’t the greatest so we got to do some amazing shopping and dining out.
But O.M.G, what a week to pick to be away!
We nearly saw the start of WWW3, the Mad Mullahs shot down a commercial airliner by mistake killing everyone on board, Megxit is likely to bust up ‘The Firm’ – and to top it all off, my silly partner didn’t close the freezer door properly on the fridge downstairs. Everything was ruined! All the Hot x Buns I’d just bought from Countdown had gone moldy, the ducks had gone off, and the worst thing was the open 2kg box of Crumbed Squid Rings, they stank to high heaven. We spent most of last night cleaning everything out. Then my partner took the plastic sacks of rotting food over to Mt Roskill to dump in the roadside bins.

Anyway, things are back to normal this morning. It’s a beautiful day here and I’m really looking forward to catching up with everybody 😛
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January 13, 2020 8:33am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think we were all quite pleased you were offline yesterday, thus sparing us details of your partner’s adventures in truck laybys.
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:53am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!! I just read that Maggs 😀
    Coincidentally, we’ve been doing something we call ‘dogging’ for ages!
    What we do is park up on the Avenue and secretly watch for people who let their K9’s poop on the berm and dont pick it up. Then we follow them home at a distance to see where they live.
    That night my partner collects the crap in a bag and empties it in their letterbox. That’s what we call dogging.
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:08am
    - tedbear
      
      Love it!
      Doing your bit to look after the environment.
      
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      January 13, 2020 9:18am
- Biscuit
  
  That food story almost makes me CRY, Maggie.
  
  Way way back in the day – like when they didn’t cost two-bloody-bucks-plus each – the Social Club at my work used to flog off Bluff Oysters in 2.5 dozen, 5 dozen and even 25 dozen cans.
  
  They got delivered on the Friday afternoon after order.
  
  I used to buy the occasional 25 dozen can – imagine the cost of THAT these days – and, after getting them home, would freeze 20 dozen or so in smaller-sized lots (we were allowed to use plastic bags in them days!) for future consumption.
  
  I never ever forgot to take my can(s) home.
  
  UNlike some prize dickhead once…
  
  I first realised something was wrong the following Monday morning when, walking up to the elevators, I got given a can of air freshener and was warned ‘You’ll need this!’.
  
  The chap’s can(s), left on his desk, good grief, had EXPLODED sometime over the weekend…
  
  PS
  
  I trust the partner has been well-and-truly spanked…
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:45am
  - RalphT
    
    I know the feeling. Many moons ago I was first at work after the two week Xmas break to find someone had forgotten to take his turkey home before the shutdown and the fridge turned off. The smell was nauseating and I imagine he wasn’t popular for turning up without the turkey.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:56am
    - Biscuit
      
      Never a turkey fan, me, Ralph.
      
      Though one year I spent Thanksgiving with a San Fran-based pal and his Mom prepared her one with the stuffing on the outside so that the bird itself DIDN’T turn into the dried-out monstrosity I’ve had dished up to me here…
      
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      January 13, 2020 2:03pm
Jack5

Another State inquiry!

Finance Minister Robertson has announced terms of reference for an inquiry by the Productivity Commission into “the economic contribution of New Zealand’s frontier firms.”

Robertson says these are “the most productive firms in the domestic economy within their own industry.”

He says they diffuse new technologies and business practices into the wider economy.

“While we do have some world-leading firms, we need them to lift performance and productivity to create a pathway for more firms to succeed on the world stage,” Grant Robertson says.

The Productivity Commission, an independent Crown entity set up in 2011, has its own Maori title – Te Komihana Whai Hua o Aotearoa (the Commission that pursues abundance for New Zealand).

What does the Productivity Commission do? This is from the commission’s 2019 annual report:

In 2018-9, we completed our inquiries into Measuring and improving state sector productivity and Transitioning to a low-emissions economy providing 88 evidence-based policy recommendations to the Government. The Commission completed a joint study into Growing the digital economy in Australia and New Zealand with our Australian counterparts and we started two new inquiries into Local government funding and financing and Technological change and the future of work that will conclude in 2019-20.

Apparently, the Government has been looking the commission over. This also is from the annual report:

” This year our operating model came under review to ensure it remains fit for purpose. The Treasury has been assisting Minister Hon Grant Robertson in reviewing the Commission’s work and our working model. That review is generally supportive of our work.

However, a number of very constructive suggestions for improvement have emerged. In particular, there is a suggestion that inquiry topics should be more directly relevant to New Zealand’s “macro-productivity” challenges – especially in the tradeables sectors. It has also been suggested that the Commission should have greater capacity to undertake wider ranging productivity-relevant research, exploring the nature, sources and characteristics of New Zealand’s poor productivity performance.
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January 13, 2020 8:39am
- tf78
  
  There seems to be confusion between productivity and employment as employment doesn’t equal productivity hence all the bureaucrats.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:06am
  - sooty
    
    Crap, he’s going to stuff firms doing well!
    Butter fingered git! Is what I say!
    I wonder if there is an opt out button!
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:24am
  - Paulus
    
    Productivity I was taught many years ago is not the hours worked, but what is achieved in those hours.
    OK Robertson !
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:09am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Alternative dole opportunities for economic graduates?
  
  At the intellectual level of the COL what else should we expect but expensive navel gazing?
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:46am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Yje only increased Productivity in this Govt is in the output of Commissions of Inquiry and advisory committees
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:29am
- Ruahine
  
  Thanks for bringing this to a wider readership.
  I am glad that this new Commission has been given an appropriate Maori title. I am not sure if the translation is correct however.
  From my limited Maori I think – Te Komihana Whai Hua o Aotearoa actually translates as – The Commission that pursues abundance for New Zealand lefty troughers.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:29am
- Bell-47
  
  Looks like a review into the productivity commissions own productivity?
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:31am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Productivity Commission was an ACT brain fart. Like Peter Dunne’s Family Commission, but even less useful. Time to close it.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:34am
- Sacha
  
  And then they’ll ‘nationalise’ the good ones and milk them dry.
  If I owned one of these companies, I would strongly resist the government poking around in my business.
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:43pm
oldpark

Notice the wee pest called Hipkins from the Peters selected bunch of no hopers,is now advocating for any type of religion instruction to be banned in schools. Let us all hope that the most pathetic sicko type of religion doing the rounds in schools , which our young children our daily being brainwashed on by their far left lunatic teachers on the myth of Global Warming causing them many fears and nightmares. Teachers should be charged with child psychological cruelty.Hope wee grubby Hipkins shows some missing common sense. Would not hold my breath.So far his track record on Education directives is on a scale of Ten,maybe a Two only because no one has ever seen a One.
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January 13, 2020 8:48am
- sooty
  
  Shit. He’s going to get both his ears pulled when Communist Cindy get’s back from her 8wk holiday fighting fires in aussie!
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:27am
- Ian Boag
  
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  Have you spent any time in a classroom since the 1960’s? Just asking ……
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:33am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Sigh. I must be guilty of trolling with all those downticks. So sorry. Obviously calling someone out for a demented rant is unacceptable on KB.
    
    I was just curious to know how much of the rant was based on experience inside a classroom in the last 50 years …..
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:24am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      oldpark is aged 76, and his last experience of formal schooling was failing the standard 6 proficiency test.
      
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      January 13, 2020 10:40am
      - Ian Boag
        
        That’s a bit unfair. 🙂
        
        I’m 74 and the test you mention was long gone when I was in what is now called year 8
        
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        January 13, 2020 10:46am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Maybe oldpark is much older 🙂
        
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        January 13, 2020 10:50am
      - Ian Boag
        
        1936
        
        Secondary education up to age of 19 is made free.
        
        Proficiency Examination to enter secondary education is scrapped.
        
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        January 13, 2020 10:58am
      - oldpark
        
        @mma 10.40am
        My age is much same as Mr Bridges. It is not often you are right, wrong again.. You sound as if you are a candidate for elder abuse and ageism. Wonder what your take on Winston Peters is. Or even our good Queen Elizabeth.
        
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        January 13, 2020 11:46am
    - oldpark
      
      Ian Boag.
      The facts speak for themselves . What part of that type of soon to be introduced brain washing so called Education of Climate Change on our school children about to be enacted by Bully Boy Hipkins don’t you understand.Will the parents who have to give in writing their wishes for Religious Education for their children also have the same rights for the Climate Change brain washing of their children to be excluded.Face the truth Mr.Boag.
      
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      January 13, 2020 11:06am
      - Doc Holliday
        
        Oil companies have spend billions of dollars brainwashing the public.
        
        Why?
        
        Because it works, doesn’t it, fool.
        
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        January 13, 2020 12:23pm
- Inandout
  
  oldpark, sadly the obligatory powhiri or karakia (prayer) isn’t included
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:35am
- hullkiwi
  
  Oldpark, you do live in hope? But given the track record of the NZ education sector, I don’t see much to be optimistic about given in the past 30 years, NZ children have been subjected to:
  1. Peace studies and the dangers of nuclear war (1980s/90s);
  2. The dangers of sugar in our diets, inspection of lunchboxes etc.; and more recently
  3. The dangers of single use plastic bags.
  
  Given there have been reports of children showing signs of being made anxious about what they have already been taught in schools about climate change, I believe we have more than enough to concern ourselves about what the woke left propaganda brigades are indoctrinating our children with.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:38am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Why has this post been in moderation for more than 1 hour?
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:48am
- freethinker
  
  I would agree with a 2 if you can demonstrate anything that Hipkins has done that has actually improved an EDUCATIONAL OUTCOME excluding the use of Mawree shit.
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:52am
  - Ian Boag
    
    While you are at it – a similar list of achievements for Parata would provide an interesting benchmark.
    
    AFAIK curriculum changes come from advisory groups in the Ministry, not the Minister. I would guess that he might have to sign them off. Refusal to do so would probably be a bit exceptional.
    
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    January 13, 2020 2:25pm
- Jules99
  
  I was chatting to a year 1 teacher recently – she’s proud to be embedding Maori maths into the curriculum. This is not a school with many Maori pupils. The young progressive generation of principals are pushing this stuff.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:09am
  - tedbear
    
    Maori maths?
    Like if I take ‘my’ land back, multiply it by govt handouts, then subtract taxes..
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:19am
    - rouppe
      
      There’s no taxes in Maori math…
      
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      January 13, 2020 7:16pm
  - Bobba Fret
    
    What is Maori math? It is different to normal math
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:25am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Question, what is Maori maths? Is this something similar to Maori accounting (not accounting as any accountant would know)?
    
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    January 13, 2020 10:28am
    - Colville
      
      Maori accounting usually involves shoving ones hand into the cookie jar as far as it will go..
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:04pm
    - Jules99
      
      I asked her, and the nearest I could get was ‘collaborative’ and team work. My interpretation of that is, one bright kid does the work and the others copy his/her answers. Preparing for the future of ‘work’.
      
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      January 13, 2020 1:43pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    There is no obvious maths throughout Polynesia.
    They have words for numbers up to 10 then they start by adding like in selau ma le tasi (11). Very clumsy and now frequently replaced by the simpler English version.
    
    Have we another branch of stupid to deal with?
    
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    January 13, 2020 1:50pm
- tf78
  
  I saw in Stuffed in the weekend the headlines “Climate change education resource to be in schools in 2020” that’s religion isn’t it so it shouldn’t be allowed.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:39am
  - lifesgood
    
    It’s pretty obvious why Catholic Schools are having their doors beaten down by all and sundry wanting their children’s admission. They teach values and that’s what parents are looking for.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:19am
    - MCos
      
      Can confirm.
      
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      January 13, 2020 11:54am
- Paulus
  
  Will this include Muslim, Jewish and Catholic orientated ones too ?
  Isn’t Maori likened to a religion, like Ratana too?
  
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  January 13, 2020 11:11am
  - Stephieboy2
    
    Paulus, no!
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:01pm
- Ruahine
  
  Won’t be any banning in Muslim schools.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:02pm
Swifty

Two shot dead out in Tinui?

Terrible.

Will be interesting to see who makes what of this.
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January 13, 2020 9:17am
oldpark

Great to hear Peter Williams is back on Magic Talk Radio today. Just in time to make sure he heads off the gaggle of lefties that are more and more frequenting the Far Left NZ Herald owned Newstalk ZB. Heard some claptrap over the holidays with names we can trust . Simon ,Phil, Marcus. Why?They are so far left ,they just about emulate the gang who spout out the sanitised fake news copy cats from CNN.Yes NZs TVNZ.
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January 13, 2020 9:19am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Right with you there OP!
  Other than the Katie & Mike brekfast show, and Bruce Russell late – who else on Newstalk ZB is worth listening to?
  And don’t get me started on those 2 morons that now do Noon till 4 🙁
  (I heard them once – they both sat there for 3 hours making up txts about how great they were! Honestly, the only way EITHER of them would even get LAID, was if they crawled up a chicken’s arse and waited.)
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:55pm
  - oldpark
    
    @Maggie Pie 12.55pm
    Yes the two mentioned clowns are known as the antideluvian “AGONY UNCLES”.Nuff Said.
    
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    January 13, 2020 3:29pm
  - tf78
    
    Chris Lynch is great on the rare occasions we have him and a couple of the Tim’s are OK when you’re desperate, otherwise it’s the music and KB for me.
    
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    January 13, 2020 6:35pm
Sydney Alvarado

I seem to be experiencing a surge in advertising while viewing this site.
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January 13, 2020 9:34am
Maggy Wassilieff

Who is running Greta Thunberg’s facebook page?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youve-scripted-my-childhood-facebook-glitch-reveals-greta-thunburgs-father-posting

What’s with the Indian connection?
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January 13, 2020 9:35am
- Stephieboy2
  
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  MW, while your about it jsut who is Tyler Durden ( a pseudonym for the character from the Movie Fight Club starring Brad Pitt ) ???
  
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  January 13, 2020 9:55am
- tedbear
  
  If Great had stayed in school instead of attending at oil pipelines disruption she would have learnt how to manage ‘her own’ affairs like her facebook page.
  
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  January 13, 2020 11:19am
  - tedbear
    
    Mod: the least you could have done was correct my little spelling error 🙂
    Greta most certainly isn’t great.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:34am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I can’t think of any 17 year-olds that would relish having a parent managing their facebook site (let alone any part of their life).
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:57pm
    - Stephieboy2
      
      Ok so who is Tyler Durden of Zero Hedge ?
      
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      January 13, 2020 3:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Why don’t you answer Mark15’s questions first
        ‘mark15
        
        The hottest summer since when?
        Since records began?
        Since the industrial revolution?
        Since the last ice age?
        Since the birth of mankind?
        Since the seperation of the continents?
        Since the dinosaurs?
        Since the cooling period?
        Can you narrow it down please?
        
        JANUARY 13, 2020 12:21PM
        
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        January 13, 2020 4:23pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just raised an interesting question…..

“What qualifies prime ministerial adviser and tattooed kick-boxer Ritchie Hardcore,
to land a ‘Premium’ gig with the NZ Herald as their overseas Food Critic?”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=12293273
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January 13, 2020 9:45am
- Tall Man
  
  He knows ardern so is just so cool.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:15am
- Ruahine
  
  I think the answer is “read between the lines”. Thanks for bring it to our attention.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:04pm
Close Hen Counters

Oh dear, while princess cindy and hanger on are holidaying in oz, yet another shooting in old nu ziland despite her oarsome gun buy back programme to make us all as safe as … maybe the police raids should target higher risk mongrels than innocent Christian folks
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January 13, 2020 9:51am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Nonexistent houses?
  
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  January 13, 2020 1:36pm
MCos

There is a pay walled article by Audrey Young in the NZH the first sentence of which reads
‘Parents will be required to give explicit permission in writing for their children to receive religious instruction at state schools under a planned law change.’
Quite a bit different to your statement above.

The rest of your comment reads like the hysterical ravings of a wild eyed fanatic.
Sorry, but someone had to tell you.
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January 13, 2020 9:52am
- Sacha
  
  When my kids were at primary school we had to write for an exemption from religious studies – but back then they were all Christian based.
  Religious studies involving other religions happened in the last years of secondary school, and in my opinion were a very good way to learn about religious tolerance and other societies/cultures.
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:49pm
Tarquin North

I’m back from a few weeks in the bay of islands. Lovely up there but way too crowded at this time of the year. The grand final of the ” I’ve got a bigger Riviera than you and my entitled brat children have the more loud water toys than you competition” was going full noise. Hard to pick a winner from such a large field, but I think the dickhead that tied up to a mooring that didn’t belong to him in his sixty foot Riv and then rafted up a couple of forty footers may have taken it by a nose. The mooring belonged to a thirty foot keeler, pity the wind didn’t come up.
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January 13, 2020 10:00am
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner and his deckie head up that way every March game fishing for what is locally known as ‘The Dick-Dangle’
  He won it last year….. 😛
  
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  January 13, 2020 11:18am
Captain Mainwaring

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/teach-me/118541330/being-human-john-campbells-lonely-mornings

1. Who gives a flying f##k?
2. Why is this news?
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January 13, 2020 10:09am
- Stephieboy2
  
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  Very good human interest stuff that tells us that even celebs struggle!
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:11am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    You call that up-himself lefty twit a ‘celeb’?
    Why am I not surprised?
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:04am
    - Stephieboy2
      
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      Well he is a ” celeb” well known compared to you and me.
      
      Sad isn’t it?
      
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      January 13, 2020 11:11am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Well he is a ” celeb” well known compared to you and me.
        
        You’ve apparently become something of a “celeb” at St Lukes!
        
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        January 13, 2020 3:26pm
  - Scooter
    
    Why because they are superior and should cope better than the rest of us?
    
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    January 14, 2020 1:50am
- Wangas Feral
  
  Well if he wasn’t such a dour miserable looking git he might not be so lonely.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:35am
- lifesgood
  
  He is an insufferable git. Seriously, imagine having to put up with his nonsense for more than a few seconds. That’s why he’s lonely…no one wants to be near him.
  
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  January 13, 2020 11:23am
  - Sacha
    
    When he first arrived on the tv scene he was almost tolerable, but quickly became so wet that even my old mum who was in her 90’s couldn’t stand him, and with the impatience of old age (and control of the remote) would cut him off before he could say a word, lol.
    
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    January 13, 2020 8:52pm
- chaos
  
  It’s not news, it’s in the life style section.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:19pm
- Inandout
  
  Knew someone who went to college in Wellington with Campbell and even back then said John was somewhat ‘unusual’.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:56pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  I still remember when he interviewed Meteria Tuerei when she had admitted her benefit fraud…John was nearly in tears!
  
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  January 13, 2020 1:55pm
- RiP NZ
  
  CM
  It leaves the Jay Jay Feeney stories for dead.
  Can the bar……..get any lower
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:13pm
Michael

To my mind, any religious programming in schools of any kind should always be opt in by parents.
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January 13, 2020 10:09am
- Swifty
  
  Religious groups shouldn’t be anywhere near tax-payer funded schools.
  
  Let them fund their own premises and attract punters outside of school hours.
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:23am
  - MCos
    
    Catholic schools are tax payer funded.
    Obviously there will be no problem collecting the necessary authorizations for religious instruction, but banning the practice from such schools would be impossible.
    Most of them would cease to exist.
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:06pm
    - Swifty
      
      Yeah, I wrestle with that one.
      
      I have no easy answers.
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:20pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Most of them would cease to exist
      
      Now tell me about the downside.
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:53pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Catholic schools are only partially funded by the tax payer and surely all NZ children are entitled to some sort of financial input for their education. Gosh Milkenmild, once again, shows his stupidity. If they ceased to exist the government would have to build hundreds of new schools for the many thousands of children currently educated at Catholic schools. The government does not own the land or the buildings of Catholic schools
        
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        January 13, 2020 2:34pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Nah, the government could just buy the infrastructure. Should have when the Catholic schools collapsed in the 1970s.
        
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        January 13, 2020 4:35pm
      - lifesgood
        
        And what makes you think the government could buy the infrastructure? You really have no idea.
        
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        January 13, 2020 8:07pm
  - Ruahine
    
    Do you think this will include Budda, Confucius and Allah or just that pain in the neck Jesus Christ?
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:08pm
    - Swifty
      
      It’s debatable whether Buddhism or Confucianism are religions, but that aside – I argue ANY members of ANY religious groups trying to sneak into our schools to peddle their nonsense to kids should be stripped naked, marched through the streets and pelted with rotten fruit and vegetables.
      
      But that’s just me…
      
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      January 13, 2020 12:19pm
      - MCos
        
        Buddhism most certainly is a religion.
        
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        January 13, 2020 1:41pm
      - Swifty
        
        MCos – a fair point to have picked me up on.
        
        I could have worded that better.
        
        My point was about religion being the worshipping of a creator god and I know that the differing Buddhist schools have differing views on this.
        
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        January 13, 2020 3:47pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Then the state can pay for the resources previously generously provided by others,
    
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    January 13, 2020 1:39pm
Maggie Pie

here’s me on holiday with my mate Jill – she’s the one with the itchy fanny 😀

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEm3wo-WsAUnhFC?format=jpg&name=small
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January 13, 2020 10:23am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And you’re the one with the Jacinda teeth.
  
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  January 13, 2020 11:07am
  - chaos
    
    No, I think she means the fat guy in the background is her, it was one of those special Asian gender changing holidays.
    
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    January 13, 2020 11:53am
Surely Knott

Witchhunt on Newshub continues. While the article is called “Police deliberately targeting law-abiding’ kiwis in gun raids.” The author continues to label DDB as far-right and tries to tie him to the christchurch gunman saying they share similar viewpoints. Which brings up a number of questions:
1 . Isn’t it undemocratic for the raids to have anything to do with what his beliefs were. Surely the warrant should be based on whether he had a gun not what his political beliefs or religious beliefs are. 2. They tried to link him to Tarrant by saying he agreed with parts of the manifesto, including “they both favour nationalism, oppose the UN, and want tighter immigration. So what? That describes many of the mainstream issues raised by the COL in the last election and shared by many moderate new zealanders. Including Maori activists and local governments who advocate for decolonisation . 3. They are smearing him by linking his views to the gunmans manifesto which is banned. So the public don’t have the ability to become informed of the many varying viewpoints that the gunman had including his green ideologies. Will Newshub be comparing the gunmans manifestos with other political spokespeople – who else shares his nationalistic, anti immigration and environmental concerns. Anyway, in summary it’s a witch hunt. They smear him in the media. They smear DDB in the community by sending a mass of armed defenders to his house surely making his neighbours wonder if he’s dangerous – for what is essentially a routine check to see if you have a now illegal weapon which should have required two normally uniformed cops.
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January 13, 2020 10:32am
- Ruahine
  
  Bush and Ardern taking no chances.
  All carried out when Ardern is out of the country. ‘I know nothing will be the mantra’.
  
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  January 13, 2020 1:14pm
  - Sacha
    
    It makes no difference whether she is here or there. I prefer that she is ‘there’ and quite frankly, I don’t think it matters one jot either way. It’s not as if she takes up any space.
    But I do not understand why she needs 8 weeks holiday when others make do with 2 or 3.
    
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    January 13, 2020 8:59pm
krazykiwi

Environmentalist Professors Engage In Book Burning

They say a picture is worth 1,000 words, and such is certainly the case coming out of San Jose State University, where two environmentalist professors took a match to an anti-global warming book – plus a photo of their little exercise – leaving an image that clearly illustrates the state of science-based academic freedom on college campuses nationwide.

The image appeared on the university’s official Department of Meteorology and Climate Science webpage, no less.

“Where books are burned, in the end, people will also be burned”. — Henrich Heine, 1823
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January 13, 2020 11:18am
- Biscuit
  
  I’ve seen Heine’s great line twice, krazy.
  
  Once at the Dachau Concentration Camp, the first of many that Adi’s boys set up … and the other at the Opernplatz in Berlin where, ironically, his own works were among thousands of books burned in 1933.
  
  The Opernplatz has his full quote (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Plaque_at_Bebelplatz.jpg) that translates as:
  
  “That was but a prelude; where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people as well.”
  
  It is taken from Heine’s 1821 play ‘Almansor’ and is a line spoken by a Muslim, Hassan, on hearing that the Christian conquerors (on the orders of Cardenal Ximénez de Cisneros, Archbishop of Toledo and head of the Spanish Inquisition) had burned about 5000 Arabic manuscripts at the marketplace in Granada, Spain in 1499/1500 AD.
  
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  January 13, 2020 1:58pm
Stephieboy2

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
From fb about 8th January 2020,

Nancy Fahey McCune
January 8 at 2:07 PM ·

‘Tonight will go down in history as the night that an American president got US troops attacked in order to keep himself and his family out of prison. My, how far our country has fallen…’
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January 13, 2020 11:32am
- Fletch
  
  Because he took out the #1 terrorist in the world? Hell, everyone should be celebrating. The Iranian people seem to be, tearing images of Soleimani’s photo.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:05pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Long queues in Tehran to buy MAGA hats and register as republicans.
    
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    January 13, 2020 12:55pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Trump’s tweet in Farsi, the most popular Farsi tweet of all time.
      
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      January 13, 2020 9:51pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Except of course, the statement is drivel Stephie. Just another nonsense comment by another deranged nutjob.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:30pm
  - Swifty
    
    Unlike Bill Clinton who launched an illegal bombing of Kosovo to get Monika Lewinsky off the front pages!
    
    🙂
    
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    January 13, 2020 3:54pm
chaos

Ouch, hubby has to get her jobs

* In the clip, Prince Harry is speaking with Disney chief executive Bob Iger, while Meghan chats with a nearby Jay-Z and Beyoncé.

“You know she does voice-overs,” Harry says, gesturing to the former Suits actress.

“Oh, really?” Iger replies.

“Did you know that?” Prince Harry says. “You seem surprised.”

“She’s really interested,” he adds.

“Sure,” Iger responds. “We’d love to try.” *

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2020/01/prince-harry-tries-to-get-meghan-markle-a-disney-job-in-resurfaced-video-from-lion-king-premiere.html
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January 13, 2020 12:08pm
- kevn
  
  @chaos… Iger has the ‘you got me cornered’ look.
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:31pm
  - chaos
    
    i wonder if he has the “shit, I thought I was get a royal member for the voice now they’ve quit I’ve that useless suits actress again”.
    
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    January 13, 2020 1:51pm
chaos

Hiding 230 Years Of Global Heatwaves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvdivKMRrZs

The Stable Climate Of 1937

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyNAqG_Uq1Y
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January 13, 2020 12:09pm
- southtop
  
  With the new school curriculum about ‘global cooling’, ‘global warming’, ‘climate change’, ‘climate disaster’, ‘climate emergency’ or what is the flavor this week?
  I thought I would assist the curriculum developers with a link which may be useful in encouraging open transparent debate, especially in years 10 and above of our education system.
  https://realclimatescience.com/fifty-years-of-failed-apocalyptic-forecasts/
  Personally I like the IPCC prediction of at least one meter of sea level rise by 2100 (over one century). Given that we are 20 year in, which should equate to around 20cm I am disappointed my house is still not a beach front property. Maybe instead of sea level rise it could be called ‘tides’?
  
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  January 13, 2020 12:32pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, just when are the seas going to start visibly rising?
    They all say the seas may rise by 10 cm by 2050 etc.
    But they may not
    
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    January 13, 2020 5:36pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZQ2YjnF_iI
The fourth Reich is corrupt. Who’d have thunk it?
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January 13, 2020 12:16pm
curry4me

https://www.breitbart.com/news/iran-agrees-de-escalation-only-solution-to-solve-crises/
Looks like WW III was the shortest world war in history. The mullahs want de-escalation. Sick of winning yet?
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January 13, 2020 12:16pm
Fletch

The Dems are very, very worried about a new book due out in 10 days called, Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America’s Progressive Elite which details the corruption of leading progressives, including:

Joe Biden
Eric Garcetti
Cory Booker
Elizabeth Warren
Sherrod Brown
Bernie Sanders
Amy Klobuchar

It was the #1 selling book on Amazon yesterday, but it’s since fallen to #5 overall.
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January 13, 2020 12:31pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  How worried?
  
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  January 13, 2020 2:00pm
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Epstein worried
    
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    January 13, 2020 5:27pm
- Inandout
  
  Fletch, the Dem lineup is an example of typical shoal fish politicians.
  
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  January 13, 2020 2:47pm
- skyblue
  
  Probably printed by Bloomberg.
  
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  January 13, 2020 6:30pm
Fletch

In case we forget – this is how Iran looked in the 1960s and 1970s before the Revolution – a thoroughly modern society with modern fashions before the mullahs came in with their strict Islamic rule. ps, remember it was Jimmy Carter who threw the shah under the bus and brought the incredibly fanatical and hostile ayatollahs to power.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4148684/Stunning-photos-reveal-life-Iran-revolution.html

Maybe Iran could go back to that again some day?
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January 13, 2020 1:00pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Back to a despotic monarchy running a US client state?
  
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  January 13, 2020 1:51pm
  - Inandout
    
    No m&m, just people dressing normally and comfortably. Perhaps the ayatollahs get excited seeing uncovered bodies.
    
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    January 13, 2020 2:55pm
  - Bell-47
    
    Oh yeah, they are soooo much better off now eh!!
    
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    January 13, 2020 3:21pm
- MCos
  
  The Shah was a typical example of an absolute ruler who resorts to secret police, suppression, political arrests, torture, to maintain power.
  Unfortunately there are numerous examples of these sorts of corrupt, authoritarian governments who are overthrown in some sort of revolution, only for the whole process of repression to repeat itself.
  
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  January 13, 2020 4:18pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    And it is by no means certain that a revolution in Iran, now, would lead to a better regime than the present one.
    
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    January 13, 2020 4:34pm
Inandout

Those actors dressed in red garb look unemployable, and I guess most are.
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January 13, 2020 1:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear,
Greymouth businesses missing out on $$$$

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/407206/mayor-s-1m-funding-plea-to-help-disaster-struck-west-coast-businesses-declined

Thank Goodness, there’s Pike River to prop the Coasters up.
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January 13, 2020 1:07pm
- mandk
  
  Perhaps Labour thinks it owns the West Coasters’ votes.
  
  Damien O’Connor should be polishing his CV. His majority is not that big.
  
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  January 13, 2020 1:26pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    They’ll get their money. If it’s one thing they know about on the west coast, it’s how to get others to pay for their unique landscape/forests/lifestyle etc, etc.
    
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    January 13, 2020 1:53pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Not a reasonable take on things Mike. Remote urban voters via Labour have destroyed the industries that used to support the Coast – mining, forestry, now trying to wreck farming. You have voted to take away their industry and then blame them for being poor?
      
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      January 13, 2020 2:35pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Not really – I just think they’ve developed a very effective line of begging when compared with other regions.
        
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        January 13, 2020 2:54pm
      - curry4me
        
        The seat is West Coast Tasman. Most of the ‘Green’ votes come from the Tasman bit.
        
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        January 13, 2020 9:56pm
- Stephieboy2
  
  MW, you mean the new Trampers Trail?
  
  https://paparoashuttles.co.nz/paparoa-track/the-trail-story/
  
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  January 13, 2020 3:12pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, stephieboy..
    
    The Track is STUFFED.
    
    DoC ALERTS!
    16 December 2019: Paparoa Track – partial closure until 1 March 2020
    
    16 December 2019: Pike29 Memorial Track and Pike River catchment – closed until further notice
    
    16 December 2019: Blackball Road closed from 11 May 2020
    
    https://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-go/west-coast/places/paparoa-national-park/things-to-do/tracks/paparoa-track/
    
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    January 13, 2020 4:38pm
chaos

Listening to Plunket on the radio. Says he knows who the woman who claimed she was raped by the staffer in Ardern office is. That the report shows it didn’t happen. That while this woman was running to the media claiming she was rapped she was also standing for public office on the Labour ticket and won her seat, I’m guessing council. He’s given her two weeks to come clean and admit who she is or he will name her.
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January 13, 2020 1:58pm
- Stephieboy2
  
  Radio Magic crying out for bigger ratings ?
  
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  January 13, 2020 3:11pm
- Inandout
  
  chaos, two weeks will give her time to get a court order under some pretext. The interview with James Shaw on climate doomer instructions was a hoot, Plunket asked all the tricky questions and James was sighing a lot.
  
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  January 13, 2020 4:36pm
Maggie Pie

Wonder wots happened to ‘BUNG FIZZER’ that abused the sh~t out of me here last week the night before we went on holiday?
Was looking forward to hearing from ‘the boy from Westland’ again. LOL!!!
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January 13, 2020 2:03pm
- chaos
  
  If his bung was fizzing, liking in hospital. I’m sure fireworks say on the packet don’t stick in your bung?
  
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  January 13, 2020 3:41pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I did suggest at the time, it sounded like BUNG FIZZER might have needed a larger ‘Butt Plug’.
    
    [It’s just that my partner suggested this morning, if he couldn’t find one, we do have an older model here that we no longer use.]
    
    Just trying to be helpful 😛
    
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    January 13, 2020 4:17pm
    - chaos
      
      Maybe with his head already up there a butt plug wont fit
      
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      January 13, 2020 4:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Bit cooler in Gizzy today – 28C and a SE breeze.

Looks like rain/showers is/are on the way for the rest of the week…Yay!
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January 13, 2020 2:18pm
- otago-man
  
  In the deep south we are at 16c and had an overnight low of 6c, where is summer…..looking forward to some global warming
  
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  January 13, 2020 3:25pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    16 in the Hutt Valley today and not going to get much better until the weekend. We had a bit of summer in November – maybe we’ll get some more in March.
    
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    January 13, 2020 4:42pm
- chaos
  
  28? Damn that’s is cold, brrr, we are a boiling 16 degrees at the moment. Nope reverse psychology don’t work
  
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  January 13, 2020 3:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well, at least you are warmer than the poor folks in Afghanistan
    
    https://www.rferl.org/a/severe-winter-weather-claims-more-lives-in-afghanistan/30373165.html
    
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    January 13, 2020 4:02pm
chaos

* New Zealand’s political system has been described by a top spy as “compromised” and that its Five Eyes membership is “on the edge of viability” because of Chinese influence.

The senior intelligence official, who has not been named, told the Financial Times New Zealand has a “supine” attitude to China and suggested it could cost New Zealand its place in the Five Eyes intelligence network.

Jamil Anderlini, the Financial Times’ Asia Editor, said while New Zealand may seem like an unlikely target for the Chinese Community Party (CCP) to infiltrate, it is “attractive to Beijing as the soft underbelly” of the Five Eyes. *

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/01/spy-within-five-eyes-describes-nz-s-political-system-as-compromised-by-chinese-influence.html
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January 13, 2020 3:55pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  There will be no change to this sad state of affairs while the National and Labour parties both remain reliant upon China as a main source of their funds. I should have thought that it is about time that Australia, Canada, the US and the UK reassess whether the small advantages NZ brings to the security relationship are not already outweighed by the infiltration of the CCP into our domestic politics.
  
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  January 13, 2020 4:32pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Oh bollocks. Neither party “relies” on Chinese money anymore than the greens rely on “greenpeace” money.
    
    The only politician “beholding” to it’s donors is “what’s in it for wynston”.
    
    National’s accounts are open for scrutiny and even a bitter little bugger like you can go through looking for “chinky” names.
    
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    January 13, 2020 6:11pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I guess the Labour Party and National Party just sent their respective presidents to China for the CCP’s anniversary out of warm feelings for a sister political party.
      
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      January 13, 2020 6:34pm
      - Jack5
        
        The National Party in Auckland has close ties with Beijing, and these probably will be under the spotlight at this year’s general election.
        
        Under the closest watch will be list MP Jian Yang, who, before coming to New Zealand, was a lecturer at China’s military-linked Luoyang Foreign Languages Institute, which trains spies.
        
        The Sydney Morning Herald reported a couple of years ago:
        
        In his application for New Zealand residency in 1998, Mr Yang did not detail the sensitive nature of the institution he worked at, disclosing only employment with “Luoyang University”.
        
        Before moving to New Zealand, Mr Yang spent time in Australia and attained master’s degree at the Australian National University in 1994. While undertaking a subsequent PhD, he was head of the university’s Chinese Students and Scholars Association, an organisation linked to the Chinese Embassy.
        
        During September and November 1994, Yang was an intern in Australia’s Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trades.
        
        Yang was a lecturer in political science at Auckland University before becoming a National Party MP in 2014.
        
        Chinese influence has also been flowing into local body politics, with China trips for New Zealand councillors and council employees.
        
        When New Zealand is dropped from “Five Eyes”, China’s interest in New Zealand should fall sharply. In security and defence we’ll have bugger all of interest to Beijing.
        
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        January 13, 2020 7:13pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Not at all and you are well aware that it is necessary to keep the wheels of trade well oiled.
        
        When you decide you want no Chinese goods let us know.
        
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        January 13, 2020 8:19pm
      - chaos
        
        No they didn’t just send them, that was last year and they were invited guests, would you prefer that when New Zealand politicians etc are invited by a major trading party that we don’t go, especially considering that the actions of our current government has relations with some major trading parties strained right now. Or would you just prefer the massive layoffs that would come from losing these trading partners.
        
        And actually under the key government we had respect amongst our five eyes partners. It is this government that is not respected or trusted
        
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        January 13, 2020 9:11pm
- secondcumming
  
  In the meantime, tonnes of illicit drugs continue to pour over our border undetected.
  If China’s Prez Xi wanted to stop it, *….he need only say the word*. That of course would be against everything the CCP is seeking to achieve, not only in this once beautiful country, but globally.
  
  Try snuggling a gram of Coke into China. They’ll send your mother a bill for the bullet 😎
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12291528
  
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  January 13, 2020 4:38pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Silly boy, even in China coke comes in bottles and cans…….
    
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    January 13, 2020 6:07pm
    - chaos
      
      That’s how you can tell them walking through the airport in China, a bottle or a can of Coke up the butt and they walk strangely
      
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      January 13, 2020 6:57pm
All_on_Red

Scottish Journalist in Australia gets to meet the ‘Dangerous (!) Drop Bear’
https://mobile.twitter.com/newscomauhq/status/1216505134286606336
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January 13, 2020 4:47pm
- Tall Man
  
  And we think we have all the thick ones here. Who in the western world doesn’t know what a Koala Beer is?
  
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  January 13, 2020 6:07pm
Chuck Bird

The guy was drink and could not remember what he did. He should have joined the Labour Party and tried to get Judge Collins who thinks that is an excuse.

Entertainment industry veteran on trial, accused of sex assaults on three women

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12298814
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January 13, 2020 4:50pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partner’s mum said there was a strong rumor going around with some in the Retirement Village as to who this was. I told her just to let them know quietly, that Johnny Weissmuller was never in New Zealand – and had died about 50 years ago anyway.
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:10pm
- MrTips
  
  Did Harvey Weinstein come here? Did he hear that Labour was “on side”.
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:58pm
  - chaos
    
    Couldn’t get on the plane with his walker
    
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    January 13, 2020 6:30pm
chaos

* Close to 14,500 households were on the waitlist for public housing as of November last year, a record high.

The figures show 14,496 eligible households were on the waitlist for state-assisted housing at the end of November, up from 14,355 the month before and almost three times the 5844 households waiting when the Government was elected two years ago.

The vast majority of the households waiting are “Priority A” – or the most in need. The median time to get eligible people into a house was 116 days, up from 100 the month prior.*

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/118745653/public-housing-waitlist-hits-new-record-of-14496
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January 13, 2020 5:04pm
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like some assisted housing.
  A nice mansion in remuera
  or a nice bach at Pahiatua
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:39pm
  - sooty
    
    Silly man. They are only for the labour party bosses!
    
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    January 13, 2020 8:43pm
  - Sacha
    
    Baches in Pahiatua, nice or not, are like hen’s teeth – you’ve missed the bus there.
    Try Remuera.
    
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    January 13, 2020 9:09pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Simon Bridges on the Politicisation of our Police

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/01/simon-bridges-fears-politicisation-of-police-after-raid-of-right-wing-activist-s-home.html
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January 13, 2020 5:28pm
- chaos
  
  I can understand why police might meet with some ministers. I’m sure there have been a few meetings where the police have begged the minister of police to register his car before he drives it next
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:38pm
- sooty
  
  I would hope he does something about it when in office, like a cleanout.
  Send’um back to the beat!
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:39pm
- Michael
  
  Tell him it has already happened and Jenny Shipley was a culprit.
  
  REM NZPolice driving buses into the sightlines of the Demonstrators so The Chinese Premier didn’t have to see them…….
  
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  January 13, 2020 10:34pm
chaos

The Magical Powers Of CO2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ot2LnrAF58
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January 13, 2020 5:36pm
DigNap15

From now onwards I will be referring to our governement as
Our socialist Regime,
similar to East Germany or North Korea

Any improvements eg evil, extreme, communist, Stasi
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January 13, 2020 5:41pm
- secondcumming
  
  Sounds good to me DN15….although weren’t the *Sex Pistols* first out of the block with that one?
  
  😎
  
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  January 13, 2020 5:58pm
MrTips

Just shoot them if you get the chance coppers: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/118761333/police-cordon-off-christchurch-intersection-after-suspected-armed-robbery

These buggers need to be bought to heel, imo.
That and a 10 yr stint on the Snares Islands for 1st time meth dealers and producers; 2nd time it’s the concrete boots.

After a fair trial of course.
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January 13, 2020 6:05pm
- chaos
  
  They’re just misunderstood, they just need a hug. Talking of robbery in Christchurch
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/118737513/christchurch-city-council-hands-out-96000-in-goodie-bag-perks
  
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  January 13, 2020 6:24pm
chaos

Here’s hoping that this delivers the needed rain

*As devastating bushfires continue to burn in Australia, significant rainfall forecast for much of New South Wales (NSW) is bringing hope for firefighters.

It’s not all good news, though, as the rain will also bring the risk of landslides to fire-damaged areas.

According to Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology (BOM), significant rainfall was expected to arrive in the state mid-week and stay until the weekend.

Writing on its Facebook page, the NSW Rural Fire Service could hardly contain its joy upon seeing the forecast.

“If this Bureau of Meteorology rainfall forecast comes to fruition then this will be all of our Christmas, birthday, engagement, anniversary, wedding and graduation presents rolled into one,” it said. “Fingers crossed.”*

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/01/australia-bushfires-forecast-rain-brings-relief-but-also-risk-of-landslides.html
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January 13, 2020 6:28pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  https://www.sbs.com.au/news/how-a-climate-change-study-from-12-years-ago-warned-of-this-horror-bushfire-season
  
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  January 13, 2020 6:46pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Yet actual Observed data from Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology shows that over the past 100 years it’s actually been getting wetter…
    http://reg.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/timeseries.cgi?graph=rain&area=aus&season=0112&ave_yr=T
    
    You’re such a Science Denier Mikey
    Btw, I’m curious. Do you really think that the Temp rising from say 39 to 40C makes undergrowth more likely to burn?
    That 1 or even 2 degrees more is really going to make a difference?
    Hint- it doesnt.
    Maggy will tell why fires get more intense.
    Ahahahaha
    
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    January 13, 2020 7:43pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Anyone could warn of the horror of heavy fuel in seasonally dry forest.
    
    Folks have known about the problem for some 30,000 years…
    
    Her Aboriginal elders in Sydney have been assessing the overgrown bush and extremely dry kindling for some time, warning that a huge fire is coming: “They compared it to a kid with unkempt hair, saying it needs nurturing.”
    
    But local authorities have forbidden them from cultural burning when they’ve asked for permission.
    
    Australia fires: Aboriginal planners say the bush ‘needs to burn’
    
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51043828
    
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    January 13, 2020 8:23pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/118741741/police-shocked-by-dash-cam-footage-of-driver-taking-insane-risk

I am not surprised: the Waikato / Bay of Plenty roads are the killing fields of NZ. Just check the NZTA website.
And they have the highest number of truck-related crashes.
Stay away !
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January 13, 2020 6:28pm
- chaos
  
  Some very lucky people on the road that day. Idiot should lose their license and be made to start from scratch with a learners.
  
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  January 13, 2020 6:44pm
Jack5

China is about to replicate in Tibet racial-assimilation policies being used in the Uyghur-inhabited province of Xinjiang, according to the South China Morning Post, which reports:

Regulations to “strengthen ethnic unity” will take effect in Tibet in May, four years after similar rules were introduced in Xinjiang, according to Chinese state media.

Officials in Xinjiang have occasionally cited similar regulations as justification for crackdowns on the region’s ethnic Uygur community.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3045757/first-xinjiang-now-tibet-passes-rules-promote-ethnic-unity
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January 13, 2020 6:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Almond milk drinkers responsible for bee apocalypse
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2020/01/bees-doomed-thanks-to-world-s-almond-milk-obsession-report.html
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January 13, 2020 7:19pm
- chaos
  
  Oh well, won’t stop be buying it
  
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  January 13, 2020 7:39pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  First my love of avocados has to be curtailed – now I can’t be dairy free… 😉
  
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  January 13, 2020 7:51pm
Suze Wainwright

More balanced objectivity from the Spinoff (https://thespinoff.co.nz/books/09-01-2020/bunch-of-clowns-morgan-godfery-on-the-unfunny-jesters-who-rule-the-world/)

And I’m amazed, there’s a book from Unity Books being promoted!

We all know that this great nation’s lefty politicians sh!t roses, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised…
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January 13, 2020 7:55pm
Jack5

Good report by Martin van Beynen in the Christchurch Press about the disgrace of the father and son whose fabulous (in both senses of the word) artificial intelligence system was going to revolution GPs’ practices.

A taste:

Alberic Whale appeared in the media with bold claims about his supposed world-changing technology, the 56 cars he owns (despite being unable to drive), and his popular telecommunications company, said to have millions of customers around the world.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/118748030/touted-tech-entrepreneur-and-father-fall-from-grace-over-super-computer-claims

And a link to the expose by David Farrier almost two years ago.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/unsponsored/06-03-2018/the-mystery-of-zach-new-zealands-all-too-miraculous-medical-ai/
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January 13, 2020 7:57pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And what was the role of Stuff and other MSM in promoting these scambos?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/88797510/the-curious-tale-of-alberic-whale-turning-over-his-company-to-world-charity#comments
  
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  January 13, 2020 8:27pm
rightoverlabour

Hmm, now this is climate action I do approve of….

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/01/us-model-raises-more-than-750-000-for-australia-bushfires-by-sending-nudes.html
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January 13, 2020 10:21pm
Michael

Glad his Bishop stood his ground…

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2020/01/the-way-the-truth-and-the-rainbow/
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January 13, 2020 10:40pm
rightoverlabour

Another great video to spoil Stephieboys day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeKAdOySB_E
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