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Tony Stuart

Just 364 days to go until Christmas (because it’s a leap year in 2020)!
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December 27, 2019 8:02am
- pdm
  
  Good to see you are planning ahead Inv.
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:23am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  And the beauty is, all of them are shopping days!
  
  Whoohoo!
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:15am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    1.11 and zip
    
    Same old same old
    
    Even mikey, not his real name, 50 minutes later, down ticked to oblivion while I sit on the naughty step.
    
    Mods, you are fucking useless.
    
    PS merry Christmas
    
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    December 27, 2019 1:12pm
mikenmildagain

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It’s the feast of St John the Apostle today – ‘the disciple whom Jesus loved’.

Some scholars have additionally suggested a homoerotic interpretation of Christ’s relationship with the Beloved Disciple, although such a scriptural reading is disputed by others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Jesus
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December 27, 2019 8:05am
- mandk
  
  Prurient minds have often speculated on the sexuality of Christ.
  
  Depending on which unregenerate theologian you follow, he was either homosexual or heterosexual.
  
  Pointless activity for idle minds.
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:25am
  - Inandout
    
    But.. but… he may have been a half way, or the thousand other variations we have had forced on us.
    
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    December 27, 2019 10:48am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Perhaps he never existed at all…
      
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      December 27, 2019 4:57pm
- MCos
  
  Not a popular observation with the religious right.
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:44am
  - Tall Man
    
    Not really, just a pathetic waste of digital space, much like most of mikey’s posts.
    
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    December 27, 2019 9:02am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Personally, I’m not at all sure that JC was getting it on with his pal John. Particularly when he had this on tap:
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:That_fine-ass_Mary_Magdalene
    
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    December 27, 2019 9:11am
  - Simon
    
    On the subject well done Trump. In many third world shit holes gays are attacked for religious reasons
    
    Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality
    
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081
    
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    December 27, 2019 9:25am
- Lee C
  
  I’d put a homo-erotic interpretation onto the fact you felt it necessary to bring it up Milky.
  
  And ‘research’ a link for good measure.
  
  Got any juicy ones for or the prophet Muhammed?
  
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  December 27, 2019 11:14am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    These guys usually have something to say:
    https://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/yeesh/
    
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    December 27, 2019 11:20am
oldpark

MaybeTalk about all care and no personal responsibility.
On the 7.00 am news today i heard a female voice from the Druggie outfit called “Know You’re Stuff” ranting on about drug testing and the lack of testing of the type of drugs that dope heads ingest at anywhere there is a chance to get on a mind bending so called “high”.
Yes her comments were if any of the zonked out druggies died their deaths were the fault of the lack of drug testing by authorities wherever the druggies congregated to get” High”.What the ****.
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December 27, 2019 8:13am
- mikenmildagain
  
  “Hey kids: don’t do drugs”
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_reduction
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:15am
- Tricati
  
  You must remember Oldpark, in today’s woke environment, it is always someone else’s fault and we should be ‘outraged’ that someone hasn’t done something about it.
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:30am
- Tall Man
  
  The total erosion of personal responsibility.
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:49am
  - igm
    
    Total of responsibility . . . what the hell is one to make out of this?
    Taxpayers are being fleeced of millions for Treaty settlements . . . this is a joke:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/117919925/445000-iwi-money-gets-stuck-in-limbo
    
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    December 27, 2019 9:19am
Yvette

Behrouz Boochani is an Iranian Kurd and a writer of some repute. He escaped his homeland and fled to Indonesia and attempted to enter Australia without following the correct immigration procedures.
He was invited to speak at at a Christchurch literary festival in late November and came to New Zealand from PNG, by-passing Australia.
He had a one month visitors visa which expired on December 15.
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December 27, 2019 8:19am
- oldpark
  
  @Yvette 8.19 am
  Yes interesting he was met and escorted by another Claytons or Plastic refugee. A big mouth list MP pest from the Green Party . Her name Golriz Ghahraman.
  Anecdotal evidence says that the meeting was all staged by her other partners in Slime . NZ First/Liebour Party . The grand plan is to challenge the Australians stance on boat people refugee queue jumpers.Game plan give the illegal into NZ a status and in due course a NZ Passport . Allowing him to break the immigration criteria of a Sovereign Country Australia.In fact an attempt to break the embargo of illegals into Australia. Why the **** are NZs Politicians involved in this type of activities. It should be a concern of what NZs Politicians are up to . It could jeopardise the rights of NZs Citizens the type of Visa free access to Australia. If not, why not.
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:27am
  - Yvette
    
    @ Oldpark
    If the Australians are “on to it”, when Behrouz Boochani attempts to enter Australia – if he does – he will be refused on the grounds that he has illegally overstayed here in New Zealand despite having ready access to the highest advice in the country – when Ardern finally became aware of his presence, when Lees-Galloway had it confirmed he’d arrived (although his Immigration Department staff knew of his application but couldn’t say what his plans were) and Golriz Ghahraman, expert on entering New Zealand from Iran, had been waiting at Christchurch Airport for his arrival.
    
    Not many people have so many experts to advise them, but still do bot act in their own natural best intentions, like simply following the law, especially when their recent own experiences purport of show them the consequences.
    
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    December 27, 2019 4:05pm
- Tricati
  
  This had all the hallmarks of a Green Party set up from the start; and as usual, the PTPM will say she knew nothing about it.
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:29am
- Lizziep
  
  So Yvette why the F**k is he still here?
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:08am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Celebrating Xmas?
    
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    December 28, 2019 7:50pm
- DigNap15
  
  I like the Kurds, but they need to stay in their homeland.
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:42am
infused

Winter Jacinda wedding this year. you watch. been in the works now for a couple of months.

After all is said and done I wonder if they will stay togeathor
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December 27, 2019 8:25am
- artemisia
  
  Mr Gayford said he hit the jackpot. Ms Ardern not so much.
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:02am
- pdm
  
  Mr & Mrs Clark (oops Davis) do. She in Auckland or New York and he in Christchurch.
  
  Seems to work.
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:23am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Jacinda tries hard to keep media and public focus on her private life so as to distract attention from her crap-awful performance in her professional capacity.
  
  Why are you helping her to do that?
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:44am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  TV is dying. Clarke needs a meal-ticket
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:10am
- lifesgood
  
  Infused – Nope, not a chance. He’s in it for the publicity. Not sure why she’s in it. Could talk about ports and storms, I guess.
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:49am
- Lance
  
  Oh how horrifying.
  They might drag it out over 10 nauseating episodes. Reality TV at it’s worst.
  
  Please, please don’t let this happen.
  
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  December 27, 2019 11:11am
- Akarak
  
  She’s already announced it will be in 2020. Probably waiting for Neve to start walking in order to maximise photo opportunities. The woman has no shame!
  
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  December 27, 2019 11:18am
- MCos
  
  About half of NZ marriages end in divorce.
  
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  December 27, 2019 11:29am
- niggly
  
  Pretty sure Jacinda said she wants a summer wedding?
  
  If so that makes sense – better weather of course plus massive bonus super-feelz points winnings – she can string the MSM along all throughout the election campaign in which they continue to write mostly favorably and gushingly about her!
  
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  December 27, 2019 12:39pm
  - Sacha
    
    January in Oz . . . . . .
    
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    December 27, 2019 5:52pm
G152

Looks like we’ll have to take on the new religion of global warming/climate change and get all the new holy days in line so the blessed can do their shock horror we’re all going to die at opportune times.
Apparently though their saints are adverse to becoming martyrs.
Damn !!!!!
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December 27, 2019 8:28am
- Scott
  
  G152 – you are quite right, global warming/climate change is something of a religion for people. In this country with less people going to church at the moment compared to say 50 years ago, there is a need for some other source of meeting. It’s hard to go through life with no purpose.
  
  So that’s what global warming does. It provides a purpose for people of a secular mindset. I am saving the planet. The new religion has its own apocalypse – Congresswoman Alexandra Okasio Cortez says that the world is going to end in 12 years. The new religion has its own prophets – modern-day Joan of Arc wannabe Greta Thornburg.
  
  Unfortunately politics is not particularly satisfying at a soul level. It also can be annoying because climate change followers always want to tell other people how to live. And the fact of the matter is that if climate change philosophy was adopted by the Western countries our economies would fail and we would fall back into the dark ages.
  
  So as for me I’m sticking with Jesus in 2020. 🙂
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:51am
  - curry4me
    
    You’re not the only one.
    
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    December 27, 2019 8:32pm
Jack5

Putin looks to be reviving Tsarist-style or Soviet-style exile of dissidents.

Ruslan Shaveddinov, a 23-year-old ally of opposition leader Alexei Navalny, has been conscripted and sent to an Arctic military base.

Not a revival of the Soviet Siberian “archipelago” of camps, but a step in that direction.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/25/russia-sends-dissident-remote-arctic-military-base/
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December 27, 2019 8:37am
- Inandout
  
  Jack5, those Ruskies can be a weird lot.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efU4opfSwQY
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:51am
Paulus

Can a New Zealand MP be charged with conspiracy or something in the execution of the scam re the Iranian overstayer Behrouz Boochani.
Is it because she is also Iranian (was) and a lawyer assisted by the scandalous Amnesty International of suspect actions.
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December 27, 2019 8:47am
- Jack5
  
  If Behrouz Boochani stays in NZ, we will know which political parties to blame when Australia axes visa-free entry for New Zealand citizens.
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:56am
- John Warren
  
  Who didn’t think, from the moment he landed, that Boochani wouldn’t be sticking around?
  
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  December 27, 2019 8:59am
  - artemisia
    
    Immigration NZ was certain Mr Boochani was genuine in his desire to keep to the terms of his visa.
    
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    December 27, 2019 9:05am
    - Tricati
      
      More fools them
      
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      December 27, 2019 5:15pm
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    will be interesting to see if he does stick around.
    The supporters will be pushing the limits on him getting a passport and presenting ASAP at Australian border.
    This is all about breaking down borders, he is just a convenient go to, to try to get the job done.
    Both political parties in Australia were united on border policy, Labor has now completely capitulated.
    Time to test the system.
    
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    December 27, 2019 9:20am
    - cmm
      
      “This is all about breaking down borders”
      
      Except it is more likely to end up with AUstralia strengthening its borders.
      
      Typical leftie policy – achieves opposite of its intents.
      
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      December 27, 2019 10:49am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        Truth is the lefties don’t care, heads we win, tails you lose.
        
        Closing the border to NZers would be “proof” that they were morally superior and that Australia is a “fascist state”.
        
        All of the communists in the Green movement will continue to vote Green in solidarity, while they wait for the lumpenproletariat to finally grasp the inevitability of scientific socialism….
        
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        December 27, 2019 12:30pm
  - Sacha
    
    He might marry GG 🙂
    
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    December 27, 2019 5:56pm
- Tall Man
  
  Don’t know but if a couple of members of the “what’s in it for wynston” party can tear up the cabinet manual and offer a “benefit” for donation service I doubt ardern could be persuaded to even crease up a frown for the illegal importation of one of her “special” people.
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:00am
Jack5

In a Jo Moir political piece about Jacinderella at Radio NZ:

“A small but significant announcement from her office this year was the hiring of 17 new full-time investigators dedicated to finding and stopping violent extremism online – something this country has never had, nor needed, until March 15.”

Seventeen! What are these folk doing? Just trawling the Net day and night?

Wouldn’t that be about four for each dangerous nutter in the country?

Meanwhile, here’s Jacinderella’s latest statement about her international intitiative, the Christchurch Call:

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/governments-and-tech-converge-strengthen-joint-response-online-terror-events
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December 27, 2019 8:51am
- John Warren
  
  Yes, and a spare in case one gets up and goes to the water cooler.
  
  Never needed until March 15th, and still don’t.
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What are these folk doing?
  
  Down-ticking posts on KB?
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:25am
  - Akarak
    
    We’ll never know. They’ll be completely transparent in line with CoL policy.
    
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    December 27, 2019 11:23am
  - cmm
    
    Well some of them are certainly earning their keep.
    
    Your comment scored 3 down-ticks within 5 minutes.
    
    The other 14 are slacking off!
    
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    December 27, 2019 12:32pm
    - oldpark
      
      @cmm12.23pm
      Think that is bad. How about my blog at 9.25 am still waiting for our moderator to make a decision. It is all about the staged set up by our Politicians to usurp a Sovereign Nations’ Australian Immigration policies.
      What a bloody indictment of our NZs so called Politicians.
      
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      December 27, 2019 1:26pm
- DigNap15
  
  As I have said my Christchurch Example
  If we had no muslims here, there would be no need for any extremists (on either isde)
  No need to security which costs us all millions
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:46am
  - Batman
    
    If we had no Muslims, he would have targeted the Indian community, or liberals, or Jews.
    
    There’s always an enemy in the minds of deranged people like him.
    
    Your logic is just giving him what he wants, ethnic and cultural segregation.
    
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    December 27, 2019 1:41pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Well Batman, being that it was a one off from a deeply disturbed Australian and ardern is so concerned about wannabes I doubt we’ll ever know what he was thinking.
      
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      December 27, 2019 5:29pm
- cmm
  
  They’re looking for white extremists.
  
  No doubt the fact that the mosque that was attacked was a hotbed of Islamic extremism is overlooked.
  
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  December 27, 2019 10:50am
  - Inandout
    
    cmm, because the shooter’s motives after the event were so hushed up, I sort of lost interest. It was however mentioned by a bbq attendee that the arms crack down was written into law hours after the event, almost miraculously. Is this true, or just another CT story?
    
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    December 27, 2019 10:59am
    - GJM
      
      The gun law changes and confiscation have been Green policy for years and the Police and their trade union have also been wanting it. The problem was a lack of an excuse, until in the end they had to outsource it. It had been written in all but name for a whole. They still stuffed it up, as you expect from the CoL.
      Like scorpions, I expected no different from the CoL, but National were disappointing although not unexpected. They have been Labour Lite for years, and Bridges doesn’t have a spine.
      
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      December 29, 2019 11:36am
  - Stephieboy2
    
    cmm, squirming around for some kind of rationalisation justification for the attack?
    
    That is if your claim is factually true!
    
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    December 27, 2019 11:04am
    - cmm
      
      Stephie, please remind me which mosque:
      * Was under SIS observation.
      * Linked with Golferboy
      * Linked with Daryl Jones
      * Linked with “The Bumbling JIhadi” Mark Taylor
      * Linked with Christopher Havard.
      
      And no, I am not trying to justify the Al-Noor attack.
      
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      December 27, 2019 3:38pm
  - Jack5
    
    More on what CMM’s saying:
    
    https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/townsville-mans-alleged-fundamentalist-journey-began-in-nz/news-story/f89d87bce1ddfc4549604e9a108c3803
    
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    December 27, 2019 11:20am
    - Stephieboy2
      
      Jack5, you don’t say!
      
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      December 27, 2019 2:53pm
  - yossarian
    
    Hey Jacinda, he was an AUSTRALIAN!!! Why does every New Zealander have to pay for the deeds of some eco fascist Aussie??
    
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    December 27, 2019 11:45am
    - Stephieboy2
      
      um, that shoild be alt right facist!
      
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      December 27, 2019 2:53pm
      - GJM
        
        Not according to the manifesto, which was shut down very quickly to make sure it didnt disturb the narrative
        
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        December 29, 2019 11:38am
  - Tall Man
    
    Saw the “manifesto” on the first day then had another quick peak in Oz and I think “demented” was my initial impression but I did have a bit of dialogue with one of the anti 1080 twats and thought he was “tarrantish” in his attitude so I agree with “eco terrorist” completely. And nutjob.
    
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    December 27, 2019 5:27pm
- Sydney Alvarado
  
  Yes I agree. The whole thing is absurd. Yes New Zealand was attacked by a crazy person. So we have made it worse by hand wringing and spending hundreds of millions. And none of this will change the odds of a similar attack, which are tiny.
  
  The purpose of public policy is to make the world a better place. There are dozens of important problems in New Zealand is that need attention. These problems are entirely neglected.
  
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  December 27, 2019 11:44am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  don’t you just wish that woman would just give it a break! PTPM that is. For God’s sake she has even recorded a “christmas message” which the media is as usual spruiking like mad.
  
  Constantly on transmit with that fake smiley patronising voice…. telling us what we are going to have happen to us … for our own good!
  
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  December 27, 2019 12:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  PTPM is a publicity junkie. She has to keep bringing it up
  
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  December 27, 2019 4:03pm
  - cmm
    
    #CinD4UN!
    
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    December 27, 2019 4:40pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yeah, but she can stop milking NZ. Why should the taxpayer fund a corrupt organisation?
      
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      December 27, 2019 4:59pm
Ruahine

We all remember the lie. ‘John Key wants to spy on you’ . How about the truth then. Jacinda Ardern is spying on you.
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December 27, 2019 9:06am
- Sydney Alvarado
  
  Oh yeah. Good times. Remember the “mass surveillance’ election?
  
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  December 27, 2019 1:58pm
- Ruahine
  
  Ladies and Gentlemen. Sir John Key.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWxdIMdkrKM
  
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  December 27, 2019 4:27pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Why on earth are you posting about him. He hasn’t been in Government for 3 years and while still a bloke of interest he is certainly not in the political arena so why the interest?
    
    I didn’t bother with the video.
    
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    December 27, 2019 5:18pm
    - Overworked
      
      It showed Campbell’s dishonest interviewing tactics and his infantile behaviour when thwarted by someone who insisted on answering his allegations and implications.
      
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      December 27, 2019 7:30pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I just don’t get the obsession with Sir John Key, Donald Trump, Boris Johnson etc.
        
        These guys have little to do with us but seem to occupy the bulk of media obsession, except when they’re lauding ardern.
        
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        December 28, 2019 9:13am
John Warren

Look, I’m happy for the guy, but why in God’s name would you leave something as precious as 30 years worth of irreplaceable sheet music in your car parked at the airport?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/406225/stolen-car-and-guitar-returned-untouched-along-with-an-apology
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December 27, 2019 9:08am
- Sydney Alvarado
  
  It’s like the tourists who have all their money stolen from their rental car while they are having lunch. Take your passports, phone money, cards and devices with you. Everything else can be replaced.
  
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  December 27, 2019 2:01pm
- Overworked
  
  You’d expect at least a photo backup on his phone if he couldn’t afford to photocopy them.
  
  It’s like the cases that pop up in the news from time to time where students leave their laptop containing the only copy of their thesis in the boot of their car, which then gets stolen.
  It should be an automatic fail, person unfit to graduate.
  
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  December 27, 2019 7:34pm
Jack5

For those who missed reports of the Media Council finding on the Otago Daily Times’s Samoan cartoon, you can find the full council decision at the link below.

The council’s finding in summary:

We find that the cartoon was gratuitously hurtful and discriminatory.Despite the very high bar that must be crossed before a complaint about an offensive cartoon will be upheld, that bar was crossed with this cartoon, and by a significant margin.

It’s interesting that Kiwiblog is listed as a digital member of the council, which is made up mainly of media organisations.

The council represents parts of the media industry. It doesn’t represent us – the readers, the scribblers, the posters, the public.

Media Council’s finding:

https://www.mediacouncil.org.nz/rulings/jenny-tutu-and-others-against-otago-daily-times

For others who think the council is an unnecessary, PC group, here’s a note of encouragement:

https://youtu.be/cmIwaIQXtkA
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December 27, 2019 9:17am
- Jack5
  
  Two hours plus in the moderation queue today.
  Would you folk like a hand with moderation?
  
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  December 27, 2019 11:21am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Two hours!
    
    Luxury!
    
    When I posted from middle o’ road from shoebox half an hour before we went to bed . . .
    
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    December 27, 2019 4:46pm
- suzieq
  
  It does represent “us — the readers”. The Council has more public members than those representing the media — or it used to. To my knowledge, that’s not changed.
  
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  December 27, 2019 4:29pm
  - Jack5
    
    Nope, Suzie, the Media Council is an industrial organisation set up by newspapers to head off an authority socialist politicians were out to impose.
    
    A handful of internet media, including Kiwiblog, signed up similarly because they thought it would be better than State censorship.
    
    The New Zealand Media Council is an incorporated society, with the official title the New Zealand Media Association Inc. It was previously called the New Zealand Press Council Inc.
    
    Current members, according to the council’s web site:
    
    Ben France-Hudson, property law lecturer; Katrina Bennett, journalist; Raynor Asher – independent chairmam, who is a retired judge of the Court of Appeal; Rosemary Barraclough, Auckland journalist; Craig Cooper, Hawke’s Bay newspaper editor; Hank Schouten, representative of the union which covers journalists; Tracy Watkins, journalist; Christina Tay, “restorative justice facilitator”; Jo Cribb, consultant; Liz Brown, consultant; Marie Shroff, consultant; Mary Major, an “executive director”; Pravina Singh, barrister; Tim Watkin, journalist.
    
    It’s easy for a casual blog poster to say, but it would have been great if internet sites had stayed fully independent of the print media.
    
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    December 27, 2019 7:13pm
Happychappy

Well it looks like everybody else except Jacinda the one who wants these Laws will be working implementing these
while our Prime Minister is away in Australia on Eight weeks holiday.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/governments-and-tech-converge-strengthen-joint-response-online-terror-events
It would be nice to know how much it has cost the Taxpayer for Jacinda’s wish to become famous, this is a out Jacinda not the victims.
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December 27, 2019 9:23am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  well she has had a rilly rilly busy “year of achievement, a girl needs a couple more months off on full pay to recuperate….
  
  Imagine how much more nothing she could have achieved if she turned up to work?
  
  Still, and looking forward, we have the “royal” wedding planning – all carefully choreographed for the “serious media” of womens day and womens weekly (and stuff), then there will be the choice of dress, then there will be what the groom chose to wear, and if he got something from an op-shop, then there’s the what will neve wear? finally, will it be a religious wedding or a cultural extravaganza of joy ™
  
  Then there’s the honey-moon helping picturesque poor people in the islands with more Aid $$$,
  
  Then there’s the “might she be pregnant, parlaver.
  
  Finally, after that exhausting year of yet more delivery, there’s an election….
  
  Oh how excited the little people will be…!
  
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  December 27, 2019 3:42pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Fingers down throat material
    
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    December 27, 2019 4:47pm
Stephieboy2

Trump hates windmills but backs unprofitable Coal

His ludicrous tilt at Wind power something of which he knows so little about and short on memories of his failed backing coal

“Biggest Private Coal Miner Goes Bust as Trump Rescue Fails”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-29/biggest-private-coal-miner-goes-bust-after-trump-rescue-fails

And now Wind power.

Way beyond funny or Bizarre. Sheer incompetence!

‘I never understood wind’: Trump goes on bizarre tirade against windmills

“Donald Trump delivered a series of rambling and often nonsensical remarks about windmills on Saturday. Speaking to young conservatives in West Palm Beach, Florida, the US president said: ‘You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill some day. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.’ He then went on to talk about toxic fumes ‘spewing into the air’ and express concerns about the aesthetics of wind turbines before finally labelling himself ‘an environmentalist’ “

‘https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9P3C1OXqE
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December 27, 2019 9:47am
- Sydney Alvarado
  
  They do kill birds. That is my biggest issue with windfarms. What don’t you like birds?
  
  New Zealand should just build a couple of more hydro dams and use gas for dry periods. Oh oops someone fucked up the gas. It will need to be coal.
  
  As for Australia, it will keep using coal until the government bites the bullet and does nuclear. Solar and wind is not going to power 30 million air-conditioners when it is 40 degrees.
  
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  December 27, 2019 2:43pm
  - cmm
    
    Wind certainly does kill birds, but the other huge problem is that the wind does not blow reliably.
    
    The power in the wind goes up with the CUBE of wind speed. That means a windmill designed for, say, 20kph will only generate one eighth of its rated power at 10kph.
    
    Since it is so unreliable, it needs some other reliable source to back it up. Let’s say hydro or coal. That means you needed to build twice as much generation capacity.
    
    Of course you could potentially build some sort of storage (pumped storage or battery), but those are not very efficient and you still need the primary generation to charge those. All up, it means building five or more times the capacity you need if you want to run from solar or wind.
    
    Stephie: I am unsure where to put the LOL to be scientifically accurate.
    
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    December 27, 2019 5:00pm
- cmm
  
  Windmills are like Teslas – virtue signalling rich prick toys. They are highly ineffective as a power source.
  
  During a recent Eskom “load shedding” event in South Africa, the wind farms which are rated at 1000MW were generating just 63MW – 6.3% of their rating.
  
  Solar is only marginally better.
  
  One of the reasons coal is less profitable is due to the massive amounts of fuel available, especially since fracking.
  
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  December 27, 2019 3:44pm
KevO'Brien

Global warming models-sunk by basic maths
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/12/26/a-decided-lack-of-equilibrium/
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December 27, 2019 9:49am
- rightoverlabour
  
  The downtickers – refusing to accept real science. The comments below the article are very informative and show exactly how complicated this whole thing actually is. Maybe Greta could read them and explain the errors…. ( Or our resident genius Stephieboy….).
  
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  December 27, 2019 3:47pm
Old White Loser

Apparently Winston is going to have total transparency with the the NZ – China Council.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/405774/i-m-surprised-she-was-put-there-in-the-first-place-shipley-s-nz-china-council-departure
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December 27, 2019 9:58am
- Tall Man
  
  Just another example of what a piece of shit “what’s in it for wynston” really is.
  
  I can see him gaining a big fat zero in 2020.
  
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  December 27, 2019 5:11pm
- Jack5
  
  Total transparency from Winston Peters?
  
  Nothing new in that. Nearly everyone can see right through him. ?
  
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  December 27, 2019 7:59pm
Maggie Pie

Out sitting on the deck with our tea and toast looking along the beach.
Cant believe how quiet it is here. Other than an elderly couple throwing a stick into the tide for their Lab, the shoreline is pretty much deserted.
As my partner just said, “Wonder how much longer until we are over-run here by the dregs of society like the rest of New Zealand? All thanks to the likes of Adhern, Little, Less-Galloway, GollyG, Peters, and all the rest of those unelected pr~~cks intent on destroying the joint”.

What a depressing thought 🙁
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December 27, 2019 10:02am
- DigNap15
  
  We have to fight back somehow and tell them to stop it.
  We don’t want them
  
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  December 27, 2019 9:02pm
Fletch

Looks like Trump’s instincts were right about McCain. Steele (the author of the phony dossier) was funneling info through McCain after the FBI dropped him.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/26/ig-report-reveals-steele-funneled-claims-through-john-mccain-after-fbi-dropped-him/

Always knew he was a dodgy ******
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December 27, 2019 10:05am
- Stephieboy2
  
  Fletch , baloney! Trump’s instincts were totally wrong,
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html
  
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  December 27, 2019 2:59pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    That’s from 3 months ago, before the Horowitz report. Come was lying then like he has been all along. There was zero corroboration for the Steele Dossier, and unlike lying Shiff said, the dossier was, according to Horowitz, essential to gaining the FISA warrant.
    
    Listen also to Horowitz’s testimony before the Senate. he expands on his report and completely rebukes Comes for claiming vindication.
    
    Hey, David, you’ve had several posts specially on the faux impeachment, how about a post on the Horowitz report and its ramifications. be sure to include commentary on the Senate testimony to give proper context.
    
    Puts the lie to those like Batman and Stephie who still harbour secret wishes that the Steele Dossier had some credibility.
    
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    December 27, 2019 10:15pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Batman and Stephie have no credibility
      Their lack of knowledge is pathetic and they are Tin Foil hat wearing Conspiracy Theorists.
      Even WAPO is giving Rachel Maddow a serve for her BS over the Steele Dossier- by Eric Wemple too!
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/rachel-maddow-rooted-steele-dossier-be-true-then-it-fell-apart/
      
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      December 28, 2019 7:20am
Fletch

Trump’s economy – the Nasdaq hits 9000 for the first time ever.

Dec. 26 (UPI) — U.S. stocks surged higher Thursday as a year-end rally stoked by bullish economic news pushed the Nasdaq Composite index to 9,000 for the first time in its history.

The S&P 500 also posted a fresh all-time high at 3,235.46 in late morning trading while the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose about 77 points, reaching a peak of 28,596.22 before leveling off.
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December 27, 2019 10:08am
Jack5

What’s coming with Labour’s dreams of ~~trams~~ light rail for Auckland.

Sydney’s experience with the new CBD-eastern suburbs link, opened in recent weeks:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-s-light-rail-finally-opens-what-you-need-to-know-about-trams-20190904-p52ntk.html
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December 27, 2019 11:33am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  One stupid person connected to their cellphone and nothing else will fuck this up. One death of a stupid person will fuck this up.
  Repeated for you stupid people.
  Safety will shut this down, unless they can get people (the stupid ones) off the street.
  
  Was at North Shore Hospital (another story) but saw a STAFF member walk into a wall. Immediate ED. Yep a cellphone was involved
  
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  December 27, 2019 6:31pm
curry4me

The EUs love letter to the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drqWGF-Lpuk
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December 27, 2019 11:33am
curry4me

Styx makes some predictions for the 2020s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YpnnetHYas
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December 27, 2019 11:34am
Sydney Alvarado

Why was Mitchell Santner selected again in Melbourne with so much at stake? You can just about see the batsman salivating when he bowls. Surely there was another spinner that could have been given a go? How could it have gone worse?
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December 27, 2019 1:12pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Astle should have played. Santner is just not an attacking threat in test matches. FWIW, I would have had Blundell in the middle order and Astle opening the batting, or kept Raval as the spinning option, again with Blundell in the middle order.
  
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  December 27, 2019 2:42pm
Maggie Pie

My partner and I have just been having a somewhat heated discussion “…about the true meaning of Christmas”.
He reckons there has to be a better way to celebrate Jesus’s birthday than stepping over smelly homeless bludgers in shop doorways to buy plastic shit made by Chinese child slaves.

There are times i do wish i’d listened to my mum 🙁
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December 27, 2019 2:49pm
lifesgood

The Ardern hagiography started out at $39.95 in my local bookshop, then down to $29.95, now down to $25. Wonder how long till it’s in the bargain bin?
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December 27, 2019 3:39pm
- cmm
  
  Soon to be pulped for egg cartons….
  
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  December 27, 2019 4:42pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Can u believe theres about to be a 4th book pubished very soon?
  Called, ‘Taking the Lead” – how Jacinda Adhern Wowed the World, by David Hill.
  
  I shit you not 😀
  
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  December 27, 2019 5:30pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    WTF?
    
    Taking the Lead: How Jacinda Ardern Wowed the World Hardcover – 3 Mar 2020 – by David Hill (Author), Phoebe Morris (Illustrator)
    
    An inspiring illustrated story for children about Jacinda Ardern, and her meteoric rise to become the world’s youngest female leader.
    
    Nobody is too young to start changing the world.
    
    When Jacinda was little, she wanted to be a clown. But when she saw schoolmates who didn’t have lunch, or even shoes, she knew she had to do something. Some kids laughed at her for wanting to help people so much, or said she couldn’t do it. But that didn’t stop Jacinda.
    
    She became the Prime Minister of New Zealand, and the world’s youngest female leader.
    
    This is the true story of a trailblazer who has inspired people around the planet, told by award-winning author and illustrator.
    
    Wow…
    
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    December 27, 2019 5:56pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Well, she got her wish, she succeeded in becoming a clown…
      
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      December 27, 2019 10:16pm
  - Sacha
    
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, and so on.
    
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    December 27, 2019 6:02pm
  - lifesgood
    
    What a loser. Does he really think there will be sales? Or, perhaps he is being paid to write it. Either way, more fodder for the #turnardern campaign. Such fun!
    
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    December 27, 2019 6:10pm
  - Nutta
    
    That’s taking the lead (as in Pb, a heavy metal), right?
    
    All your ammo are belong to her.
    
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    December 27, 2019 11:03pm
- John Warren
  
  Puts the “hag” in hagiography.
  
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  December 27, 2019 5:33pm
Tall Man

“Bargain” is redundant in that sentence 😉
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December 27, 2019 5:07pm
Jack5

One of the greatest stuff-ups by a builder …

The big British construction firm Balfour Beatty has been fired from rebuilding the headquarters of Britain’s secret service – MI6 – after losing more than 100 blueprints, including details of alarm systems.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7829165/Construction-firm-Balfour-Beatty-sacked-MI-headquarters-refurbishment-lost-plans.html
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December 27, 2019 7:54pm
DigNap15

Both Vietnam and Turkey both fairly big countries are building lots of coal fired power stations.
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December 27, 2019 9:04pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIAN HOUSING SHAMBLES … Unlike New Zealand, Australia is failing to deal with land supply and infrastructure debt financing issues …

Your house will be worth $108,000 more in 2020: Prices set to surge by up 14% in the big cities next year – and it’s bad news for young Australians … Stephen Johnson … Daily Mail Australia

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7828843/Your-house-worth-108-000-2020.html

• CoreLogic is predicting double-digit rises in Sydney, Melbourne house prices

• This would undo a record downturn that began in 2017 after loan rules tightened

• Property market recovery tipped to make it harder for young, first-home buyers … view and read more via hyperlink above …
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December 2, 2019 report …

Australia’s dwelling approvals crash deepens … Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/12/australias-dwelling-approvals-crash-deepens-2/

The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) has released dwelling approvals data for the month of October. At the national level, the number of dwelling approvals tanked by a seasonally adjusted 8.1% to 13,049. The overall fall in approvals was broad-based, with both units & apartments (-11.3%) and houses (-7.0%) diving. … read more via hyperlink above …
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December 27, 2019 10:57pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  UNITED STATES … Nationally new lots (sections) median price $49,500 …. National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) reports …
  
  Lot Values Hit Record Highs … Natalia Sineavskaia … U.S National Association of Home Builders
  
  http://eyeonhousing.org/2019/11/lot-values-hit-record-highs/
  
  According to NAHB’s analysis of the Census Bureau’s Survey of Construction (SOC) data, median single-family lot prices outpaced inflation once again (4.4% vs 2.4%) and reached new record high in 2018, with half of the lots selling at or above $49,500. The most dramatic rise in lot values is observed in the West South Central division where median lot values more than doubled since the housing boom years. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  4 out of 5 Americans say there is a housing affordability crisis (NAHB Survey) … Mortgage Professionals of America Magazine
  
  https://www.mpamag.com/market-update/4-out-of-5-americans-say-there-is-a-housing-affordability-crisis-177571.aspx
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