General Debate 26 December 2019

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buzzler

Happy Boxing Day to all KB’s. Let the sales begin!
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December 26, 2019 8:04am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  KACHING alingaling!
  
  May the malls be with you!
  
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  December 26, 2019 8:57am
  - Biscuit
    
    Paulius, my better half is back from her Sales-trolling.
    
    My (oops, OUR) budget wasn’t threatened, heh heh.
    
    I had no IDEA, e.g., we needed new face flannels…
    
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    December 26, 2019 2:39pm
krazykiwi

A good boxing day is one nowhere near the frenzied sales. If you’re going to spend anything, spend quality time with friends.
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December 26, 2019 8:04am
KiWombat

Keep an eye on this one in a few hours for those boaties still feeling a bit tender after the excesses yesterday !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Hf9lHBDPc
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December 26, 2019 8:08am
- alex Masterley
  
  I am so looking forward to watching the start. A number of friends colleagues and sundry aquiantances are heading for Hobart today.
  I wish them well.
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:04am
Maggy Wassilieff

Matt Ridley on the last decade:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/12/weve-just-had-the-best-decade-in-human-history-seriously/
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December 26, 2019 8:11am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Hey this is Kiwiblog! If people read stuff like that, there’d be nothing to moan about.
  
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  December 26, 2019 8:39am
  - Tall Man
    
    And yet I sure you would.
    
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    December 26, 2019 11:16am
- Aliog
  
  Fascinating read, Maggy. I’ve saved a copy for re-use.
  
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  December 26, 2019 8:45am
  - Simon
    
    It’s the end of decade optimism that comes from Trump in the White House. Tory victory as well. It’s magnificent.
    
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    December 26, 2019 9:41am
- Ruahine
  
  Hmm.
  
  https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/12/islams-reformation-an-arab-israeli-alliance-is-taking-shape-in-the-middle-east/
  
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  December 26, 2019 9:04am
  - mandk
    
    Excellent!
    
    Shalom Eretz Israel.
    
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    December 26, 2019 10:42am
  - Tall Man
    
    About bloody time.
    
    It will happen, it may not happen overnight but it will happen 🙂
    
    It will certainly take the wind out of a few idiots’s sails.
    
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    December 26, 2019 11:15am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Thanks Maggie, I was going to put it up here too.
  There is hope in and for the world.
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:16am
- mandk
  
  Matt is quite correct.
  
  It was sad to hear, during the school kids’ climate strike, a girl from Wellington Girls’ College saying she didn’t think it would be safe for her to bring children into the world.
  
  Poor love – she’s been brainwashed into thinking that when the world has actually never been a safer place in which to have babies.
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:49am
  - sooty
    
    Just thank Darwin that she does not breed!
    
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    December 26, 2019 12:36pm
- Debsta
  
  Excellent Maggy, thanks for the link, I have sent to all my nearest and dearest as essential reading!
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:52am
- artemisia
  
  Matt Ridley has a blog – rationaloptimist.com.
  
  Who could resist a site named that. He publishes all sorts there, he writes a lot, including for The Times.
  
  I follow via RSS, ez.
  
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  December 26, 2019 5:10pm
G152

Catoni wrote
LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMISTS GOT WRONG

Date Prediction was made. Followed by failed prediction.

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)

2000: In a few short years, snowfall will be a thing of the past. Children Won’t Know what Snow Is. Snowfall will be a very rare and exciting event.

2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!
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December 26, 2019 8:21am
- sooty
  
  Yah, climate change it’s here now!
  
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  December 26, 2019 8:54am
- tavita
  
  We do need some mocking adverts. Like a picture of Al gore with his quote “arctic ice free by 2013”. … Inconvenient.
  
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  December 26, 2019 9:33am
- Lee C
  
  You got a link for that mate?
  
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  December 26, 2019 9:42am
  - alwyn
    
    What on earth do you mean when you say that the following claim is a “failed prediction”?
    “2006: Super Hurricanes!”
    It may have taken them 10 years after 2006 to do it but in 2016 the Mighty Hurricanes won the Super Rugby and proved, to the satisfaction of all the Wellington faithful that they really were the Super Hurricanes.
    Or did you have something else in mind?
    
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    December 26, 2019 10:00am
Biscuit

Maggy, I never doubted for a moment that you were a wonderfully-wise citizen, heh heh, but knowing you read ‘The Spectator’ has earned you my first Boxing Day uptick.

I’m just about to decamp to my den – ‘She who must be bowed down to and adored’ is out Boxing Day saleing – so as to struggle through that fine ragsheet’s Christmas Quiz.

My first squizz at the questions had me thinking ‘Oh this’ll be a doddle’ but then I ran into Question 3:

In 2019, who said:
1. ‘You have stolen my dreams and my childhood.’
2. ‘I didn’t sweat at the time because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was shot at.’
3. ‘Ninety per cent of giraffes are gay.’
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December 26, 2019 8:23am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  1,2 and 3; nobody of any importance with anything to say.
  
  Hope this is helpful and is one of the options . . .
  
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  December 26, 2019 9:01am
- Michael
  
  1. greta
  2. andy
  3. don’t know.
  
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  December 26, 2019 9:24am
  - Biscuit
    
    Thanks, Paulus, heh heh.
    
    I remembered the quote for 3. but couldn’t put a name or face to it.
    
    I Googled:
    
    It is the latest policy question to split the upper ranks of Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party – are the majority of male giraffes gay?
    
    The bizarre row started after Dawn Butler, Labour’s Shadow Secretary for Women and Equalities, gave a rambling after-dinner speech defending the teaching of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues in schools, in which she told the audience that an overwhelming majority of giraffes are sexually attracted to their own gender.
    
    Ms Butler, speaking at an awards ceremony by online LGBT newspaper PinkNews earlier this month, said: ‘Ninety per cent of giraffes are gay. Let’s just accept people for who they are and live as our true, authentic selves. Being who you are is not a disease.’
    
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    December 26, 2019 10:06am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    3.
    Dawn Butler, UK Labour’s shadow secretary for women and equalities
    
    https://www.mercatornet.com/mobile/view/british-labour-mp-claims-nearly-all-male-giraffes-are-gay/23002
    
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    December 26, 2019 10:11am
    - Biscuit
      
      Spot on, Maggy!
      
      I’d give you a couple of some divine freshly-baked Christmas mince pies my next door neighbour gave me earlier this a.m. but there are two things you should know there:
      
      1. I never share my Christmas mince pies
      2. Refer 1. above
      
      I batted 73% in the Quiz – too many obscure UK political quotes (as referenced above) and even-obscurer folk who carked it in 2019!
      
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      December 26, 2019 10:15am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I had to look up Quote 3…
        never heard of the silly woman.
        
        I see she is in the running for the Deputy Leadership of UK Labour.
        
        She’ll probably do well; she knows how to work the system.
        https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mp-with-two-homes-minutes-from-commons-claims-37000-expenses-6881322.html
        
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        December 26, 2019 12:16pm
- Tall Man
  
  There really are some bloody stupid people out there aren’t there.
  
  WTF is wrong with the media when they actually laud these idiots.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:12am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  3. For over 90% that went ‘wwhooossshhh’ right over the top
  
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  December 26, 2019 3:38pm
oldpark

Now that Christmas Day has come and gone lets hope we get a late present. The end of nauseous promotions.
It must come a no surprise for many. The daily dribble about two things,mostly by compliant media support and advertising outlets. Both subjects are promoted ad nausem .
Firstly it is about two ordinary things. A cleaning product,which is about four times more expensive than similar products that do the same job.
The other thing promoted daily along the same lines is the Peters selected NZs PM. Making out she is the wordly wise saviour of the human race. Be it in NZ or worldwide. Sadly just like the incessant promotion of a cleaning product the result for both mentioned very ordinary.
As for NZs hugging PM depicted as a “good girl could she be one of those bad girls who never get caught”. Nuff said..
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December 26, 2019 8:26am
- calendar girl
  
  It certainly appears that, if 2019’s events are to be taken as a guide, PM Ardern’s relentless self-promotion and attention-seeking will be our lasting memory of her Premiership.
  
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  December 26, 2019 1:39pm
mikenmildagain

220 years ago, Harry ‘Light-Horse Harry’ Lee delivered his famous eulogy to George Washington:
“first in war, first in peace and first in the hearts of his countrymen”
How amazing it is, then, that so many years later the United States can be so fortunate to have a president that many Americans believe to be greater than Washington or Lincoln.
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December 26, 2019 8:44am
- sooty
  
  Why can we not uptick milkys post and downtick him at the same time?
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:25am
- Tall Man
  
  I agree mikey, they really are lucky…. Us, not so much.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:10am
Lee C

Whats the odds on a Jacinda wedding in 2020

10 – 1?

personally I think it would be political suicide to get married before the 2020 election – a really bad idea.

Only a self-obsessed maniac who is out of touch with all reality would think it’s a good idea.

So I’d put $50 on it happening in May.
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December 26, 2019 8:44am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  You mean we won’t see “Look at my boi boi” any more?
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:34am
- backster
  
  Best man…Karel or Ritchie? or the innocent sexo in her office.
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:56am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Depends on who is selling the latest top shelf lawnmowers
    
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    December 26, 2019 3:43pm
    - sooty
      
      Surely with her feelz, she would getting it at discount!
      
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      December 26, 2019 5:53pm
- Tall Man
  
  I wish she’d hurry up and let us know so I can book to be away…. well away.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:09am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yeah, fuck it, I want to go back to Alaska. Guess we could skip to Rongatonga for a few weeks. (that’s what the speaker of the house calls it)
    
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    December 26, 2019 3:45pm
- Ruawai
  
  Followed by a long honeymoon at our expense on Air force Hercules.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:13am
  - Paulus
    
    Nothing so crappy as a Herc but the usual VIP configuration of the RNZAF Boeing 757.
    
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    December 26, 2019 1:57pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Rumour is the 757s are being replaced coz they break down. PTPM has had to travel first class – heaven forbid!
      
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      December 26, 2019 3:47pm
    - freethinker
      
      Dont you mean Broomstick 1?
      
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      December 26, 2019 4:28pm
- Overworked
  
  Married in May, baby 3 months before the election.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:31am
  - sooty
    
    More time of work! No thanks, she can breed to her hearts content after she loses the election.
    
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    December 26, 2019 12:41pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You mean she could be a solo mother with a part time boarder?
      
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      December 26, 2019 3:51pm
      - sooty
        
        Still be a bennie!
        Does her bennie kick in when she’s out or at 65?
        
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        December 26, 2019 5:56pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I hope so if she had said that she was pregnant or trying last time it would have made a difference.
    
    No excuse next time, she hasn’t been on the job as it is.
    
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    December 26, 2019 3:57pm
Happychappy

Politics 2019
The Spinoff ask their Journalists describe the year in one sentence.
Trish Sherson got it in one, “Full of hot air” so I guess this comment was in relation to Jacinda’s year of deliverance.
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December 26, 2019 8:45am
John Warren

A comment by Rodney Randall under DPF’s post about Amnesty International led me to the thought: how much is Behrouz Boochani costing us (and going to cost us) to keep while the tax-paying Juliana Carvalho is being separated from her family and booted out because of what she may (and may not) cost us in future?
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December 26, 2019 8:49am
- sooty
  
  Who’s supplying Boochani with money?
  I would hpe he’s not a bennie!
  
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  December 26, 2019 10:28am
  - John Warren
    
    You can probably be confident that Boochani is being well funded, and very likely by the NZ taxpayer. He has friends in high places.
    
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    December 26, 2019 1:10pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Or… High friends in places 😉
      
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      December 26, 2019 4:32pm
sooty

Self-obsessed maniac, yep she’ll go with may.
Any later and her parade will get rained on!
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December 26, 2019 8:57am
Fletch

In case you missed the post from the Star Wars thread yesterday (it took a long time for the posts to come through) here’s the new Kenobi fan film that came out yesterday –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDwjIBR9s4
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December 26, 2019 9:17am
- mark15
  
  Nooooooooooo.
  Is nothing sacred?
  
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  December 26, 2019 5:03pm
Stephieboy2

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A great way to look forward to the approaching New Year,

For Donald, a Dimerick: (a Donald limerick)

“There once was an #IMPOTUS from Queens
Who asked Ukraine to intervene
A quid pro quo he sought
Oh but he got caught
Now he rage tweets from the latrine”

Emily Brandwin.

https://twitter.com/CIAspygirl/status/1209685992350920704
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December 26, 2019 10:43am
- Inandout
  
  An Obambacide for his ex-staff. Stephie, stay away from Twitter as it affecting your brain.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You know he had his little boy in his hand when he typed that left handed?
    
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    December 26, 2019 3:55pm
- chaos
  
  For gods sake for one day a year can’t you people stfu or is your life so fucken miserable you have to constantly bleat on about trump, who has zero to do with your life
  
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  December 26, 2019 12:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mental disease – TDS and liberals, oh and NZ lefties
    
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    December 26, 2019 3:56pm
- John Warren
  
  It might have been better if she’d paid attention to meter, and written something less juvenile. But as it stands, Lear and Nash have nothing to fear.
  
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  December 26, 2019 1:14pm
atknz

Was it just me or were there a lot of people at the Auckland City Mission event on Christmas Day that did not look “ in desperate need “ ?

And before the lefties start attacking me, for every person who attended that could provide for themselves , it was one less unfortunate person who could not be at the table ….
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December 26, 2019 11:35am
- Tony Stuart
  
  City Mission Wanganui’s Christmas lunch is no longer restricted to those “in need”. Anyone is welcome, and can buy a ticket. Their goal is to provide a space where people can gather, share a meal, get company, and get out of their homes on Christmas Day. With 450 people fed yesterday by an army of volunteers, and with fantastic support from the local business community, it works really well.
  
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  December 26, 2019 11:59am
  - John Warren
    
    So much for Wanganui. But do the likes of Auckland and Christchurch offer tickets for sale to those who aren’t in actual need?
    
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    December 26, 2019 1:17pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I have no idea. I stayed home today. Lies, I went to the mall, bought 2 boxes of Stella, and walked out.
      That’s 24s chaps, not the 12 some of you drink over 3 weeks
      
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      December 26, 2019 4:00pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Tony, that may be the case – and, if they (the Mission) advertised that fact, then good on them.
    
    But I fail to see why I should contemplate contributing to a Mission that doesn’t cater to their usual ‘pitch’, helping the truly needy.
    
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    December 26, 2019 2:37pm
- chaos
  
  So what do people in desperate help look like?
  
  Btw the meal is for homeless, low income and elderly who are isolated who people who are alone on Xmas day.
  
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  December 26, 2019 12:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I’ll tell you what they look like chaos. They tip the head on the side, frown, and talk incoherent shit.
    And no, that is not Trump – it is your PTPM
    
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    December 26, 2019 4:03pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I was surprised at how many of them looked Asian.
  And here’s me never having heard of Asians exactly being on the bones of their bums.
  Maybe good at seeking out the free stuff?
  
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  December 26, 2019 12:23pm
  - Ruahine
    
    Perhaps they were there because they could afford to buy a ticket.
    
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    December 26, 2019 1:16pm
  - LTA1955
    
    Hmmm date stamped photo link please, Capt’n that statement needs some authentication….
    
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    December 26, 2019 1:27pm
  - Stephieboy2
    
    “..looked Asian.”
    
    ?????
    
    Lexuses parked outside?
    
    LOL
    
    Where you there?
    
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    December 26, 2019 1:49pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      My partner has a Lexus – she is not Asian.
      Fuck you are a dork, and other names I will not mention.
      Stupidboy, we worked for it!!!!!!!
      
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      December 26, 2019 4:06pm
  - secondcumming
    
    What you are seeing Captain, are not queues of ‘needy Asians’ by any means. They are in fact all wealthy members of the CCP, planted here to recruit the most vulnerable among us…..of which there are now many thousands that will ultimately fall prey to their communist propaganda.
    
    It’s simply China playing the long game in their quest to take over this country – something at which they are expert around the world.
    
    Thank god for Donald Trump…..MAGA!!.
    
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    December 26, 2019 2:15pm
    - Komata
      
      SC@1415
      
      Sadly, you are correct, with the CCP proving once again that ‘colonisation’ does not require guns; just immense amounts of money and the use of stealth and hostages retained in the homeland as ‘security’ against any attempt by the emigres to escape. It works well in Africa (where they perfected the methods) and will continue to work well here.
      
      The only real diference between the two methods is that money ALWAYS talks louder than gunfire, and with corrupt polticians at the helm…
      
      The old story about the Monkey and the Vultures comes to mind…
      
      NZ will eventually become the CCP ‘Dairy farm’ in the same way that it once fulfilled the same role for Great Britain.
      
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      December 26, 2019 3:48pm
Maggie Pie

Morning all! Abfab day here at Tindalls. Lounging on the deck watching gulls diving on a huge meatball about 100 mtrs off the beach. My partner headed off fishing out behind Tiri early this morning. Sooo looking forward to a kingi on the bbq tonite.

One of the girls from work has just tweeted:
‘Santa is a symbol of white patriarchy.
He enters the home (womb) via the chimney (vaginal canal) to deposit his gifts (sperm).

Santa is a rapist.

Christmas is violence’

[ 🙁 ]
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December 26, 2019 11:55am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  With this weather your partner should go up to the Mokes. I hear it is doing well early – afternoon is dead as
  
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  December 26, 2019 4:27pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Hiyaa StevO! He called to say he’s just heading back and for me to get the tractor on the beach ready. [Just 2 snapper worth keeping by the sound of it].
    He’ll only head to the Mokes when the neighbors go at the same time. Theyre due to arrive on Saturday so hoefully we’ll get some good kingis then 😛
    
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    December 26, 2019 4:48pm
- Ruahine
  
  The chimney is a vaginal canal. I could think of better alternatives.
  
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  December 26, 2019 5:28pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lol Maggie, no, your girl from work is a woke whacko who should be told she is a woke whacko and needs to f off.
  
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  December 26, 2019 8:07pm
Inandout

Not a word of politics was spoken at our Christmas gathering yesterday, just a lot of humour.
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December 26, 2019 12:09pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Until you turned up ///
  
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  December 26, 2019 4:28pm
TWEEDSE

I like this quote from our princess puffer in today’s puffery (Newstalk), “Planning? Maybe if we manage to turn our minds to it. But that doesn’t sound very relaxing to me.” At last our part time PM manages to stop lying.
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December 26, 2019 12:29pm
tedbear

Stuff’s idea of Breaking News is “NZ bowling first”.
How this rag makes a profit is beyond me.
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December 26, 2019 12:30pm
- greybeard
  
  True.
  But the sad thing is that once again they took the wrong option.
  Aussie will bat for 2 days, make a huge total and we will be all out in 3.5 days.
  Why did they pick Santner ?
  Crazy.
  
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  December 26, 2019 6:44pm
Jack5

Maorification of NZ place names continues.

The latest raft of new dual names, as reported by Red Radio:

Tamatea / Dusky Sound
Te Awaroa / Long Sound
Te Korowhakaunu / Cunaris Sound
Moana-whenua-pōuri / Edwardson Sound
Te Rā / Dagg Sound
Te Puaitaha / Breaksea Sound
Kaikiekie / Bradshaw Sound
Te Houhou / George Sound
Te Hāpua / Sutherland Sound
Te Awa-o-Tū / Thompson Sound
Taitetimu / Caswell Sound
Taiporoporo / Charles Sound
Taiari / Chalky Inlet
Rakituma / Preservation Inlet
Hāwea / Bligh Sound
Hinenui / Nancy Sound
Maniaiti / Benneydale
Tūranganui-a-Kiwa / Poverty Bay
Puhi Kai Iti / Cook Landing National Historic Reserve
Wharekahika / Hicks Bay
Whangaokeno / East Island

The sounds names apply to Fiordland, which was a base in Cook’s voyages, and carries many names given by Cook. Looks like another shot in the taxpayer-funded commemoration of the explorer’s visits to New Zealand, a commemoration that has turned into a Soviet-style downgrade of Cook’s place in our history.

Remember, Maori names when speaking, or writing in, Maori, and traditional non-Maori names when speaking, or writing in, English.
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December 26, 2019 1:10pm
- Jack5
  
  Here, Milky! Here, here Milky! Milky, Milky …Milky!
  
  C’mon Mikenmildagain, good boy, take the bait. ?
  
  Will “Poverty Bay” be replaced by that mouthful?
  
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  December 26, 2019 1:15pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Official Name
    Turanganui-a-Kiwa/Poverty Bay came into being 15 Feb 2019
    
    https://www.gdc.govt.nz/turanganui-a-kiwa-poverty-bay-name-change/
    
    PBRFU hasn’t gone to T-a-KRFU, tho’.
    
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    December 26, 2019 3:41pm
    - Jack5
      
      Sounds like “tucker for you”.
      
      If Cook’s marines had known that there was hangi delivery ashore, they wouldn’t have opened fire. ⚓
      
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      December 26, 2019 6:06pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      “Poverty Bay” is a lousy name, but it is a name. “New Zealand” is another poor name for country, but it has endured and has stuck.
      Names, no matter how lame they may sound, take on a character of their own over the years.
      I distrust people who air-brush history and I also distrust people who change the names of places for no reason than to “make people feel better” or to “right past wrongs.” Who gave them the mandate to do so?
      
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      December 26, 2019 6:18pm
    - buzzler
      
      Oops sorry for the down tick Maggy, sticky fingers!
      
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      December 26, 2019 7:44pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Yawn.
    But since you asked, any geographer could tell you it’s is well overdue for is to stop calling the fiords ‘sounds’…
    
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    December 26, 2019 5:58pm
- namron
  
  I laugh at all the stupid maorisations of words such as –
  cow – kau, piano – piana, scissors – kutikuti
  history – hitori, tv – tiwi, ukulala – ukurere
  Stone age languages don’t update sensibly.
  
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  December 26, 2019 3:43pm
- mandk
  
  In writing, names should only ever be in English.
  
  Spelling the Maori names is cultural appropriation.
  
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  December 26, 2019 4:36pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Isn’t writing already cultural appropriation?
    
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    December 26, 2019 10:17pm
- freethinker
  
  just add r sole after the Maori name, that will fix it, same with Red Radio.
  
  [Mod edit for spelling.]
  
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  December 26, 2019 5:00pm
Biscuit

I see Kiwiblog’s (in)famous Downticker must have had a disagreeable Christmas Day.

Every single post that I can see has at least one downtick to it.

Yer a saddo, fella. Or fellass…
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December 26, 2019 2:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But imagine if one of your posts didn’t score a downtick…
  
  oh, the ignominy…. to be ignored by the downticker.
  
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  December 26, 2019 3:48pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Hiyaa Bikkie! I’m still out enjoying the sun waiting for my partner to get back.
  [Your comment just reminded me of something Sir Bob posted when describing what he called… “the perpetual blog downticker” ]
  
  “A lonely lefty cretin, living in a windowless bedsit, dressed in an old grey cardigan covered with wool-balls. Never venturing out unless absolutely necessary – and only ever relying on Public Transport. No friends (other than an internet connection), their only human contact being the Indian landlord who calls fortnightly to collect the rent. Such is their sad existence”.
  
  LOL!! Remind you of anyone? 😀
  
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  December 26, 2019 3:58pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Phallus?
  
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  December 26, 2019 4:04pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You know who it is, so do I. That tight arse has gone to get a cash refund for the one present he got, from that person, to that person.
  Such is the life of a socialist, deranged person.
  It was a box of ‘Roses’ chocs
  
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  December 26, 2019 4:35pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Well it was the box, shame they’d already eaten the chocolates though……
    
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    December 26, 2019 5:52pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Go on. don’t keep me in suspense – who is it?
    
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    December 26, 2019 6:00pm
Biscuit

Ha, Maggy and Steve.

I could have COPED with the ‘ignominy’ of not being downticked but something told me that the saddo in question wouldn’t be able to resist!
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December 26, 2019 5:38pm
chaos

How sad, needing to set up a page to ask for donations to fix damaged caused by children. Sad because the little shits parents should be going to him and paying for the damage that their precious little criminal shits did

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/118433204/donations-page-set-up-for-geraldine-cinema-after-vandalism

* The 17 boys, aged 12 to 13, caused thousands of dollars in damage to the 95-year-old theatre on December 11 when they ground food into the floor, spat on the seats, fired large amounts of food and drink at the screen which tore a hole in it, and soiled the toilets during a screening of Frozen 2.

Walsh was left in a position where he appealed to the wider Geraldine community to help with the replacement cost.

Fattorini added: “This cinema is independently owned and in*
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December 26, 2019 5:58pm
In Vino Veritas

Its official. Australia are the luckiest b’stard batters at cricket ever. Could they play and miss an more than they did? Its like watching them in the Ashes all over. Sheesh.
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