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KevO'Brien

Peace not climate–do we have out priorities right?
An economists view:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/peace-versus-climate/5689953
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September 29, 2019 8:08am
- stephieboy
  
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  From Global” Research”,
  
  Chemtrails: Aerosol and Electromagnetic Weapons in the Age of Nuclear War,
  
  https://www.globalresearch.ca/chemtrails-aerosol-and-electromagnetic-weapons-in-the-age-of-nuclear-war-4/5617879
  
  Enough said!
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:11am
  - sooty
    
    Another 16 yr old?
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:21pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Nope, just pig ignorant.
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:48pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Cue the other 16 year old’s speech to the UN:
  Dear brothers and sisters, we must not forget that millions of people are suffering from poverty, injustice and ignorance. We must not forget that millions of children are out of schools. We must not forget that our sisters and brothers are waiting for a bright peaceful future.
  
  So let us wage a global struggle against illiteracy, poverty and terrorism and let us pick up our books and pens. They are our most powerful weapons.
  
  One child, one teacher, one pen and one book can change the world.
  
  Education is the only solution. Education first.
  
  https://www.malala.org/newsroom/malala-UN-speech?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_absBRD1ARIsAO4_D3sFJ4c73-tejTNhgdEgrfeiVTJ_mwvUk3shVIDpxvDr46B6YivRBiQaAgZ7EALw_wcB
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:09am
  - Jack5
    
    Malala Yousafzai – a truly remarkable young woman.
    
    What a contrast with the tormented Swede.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:10am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Jack5, it wasn’t that long ago when people like you were even questioning Malala’s credentials ( Pakistani, Muslim the usual stuff)
      
      Let alone Greta’s!
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:13pm
      - Jack5
        
        Show us the link please Stephie.
        
        As long as she’s not Stephiestani! ?
        
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        September 29, 2019 2:34pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Better parents I imagine. And one who’s future was actually very nearly stolen. Our little Greta should learn a little and lift her game.
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:17pm
Tony Stuart

Wow; what about that Japanese performance last night, to knock over Ireland? Japan’s tackling was ferocious, and they play the game in a terrific spirit.

Ireland led 12-3 after 20-odd minutes, but then the Brave Blossoms shut them out. If Rugby World Cup 2019 was not already a success on every level, this match took it to new heights.
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September 29, 2019 8:10am
- Paginus
  
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  I hope Ireland learnt their lesson. If they want to win, they need to poach off the islands like every other team.
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:36am
  - Evadne
    
    Try reading this analysis of “poaching” and foreign-born players for some facts, instead of persisting with that tired myth.
    
    http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2019/09/09/foreign-born-raised-players-at-rwc-2019/
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:34am
    - Paginus
      
      If you believe that living in Japan for 3 years makes someone Japanese, that’s all good. But I’m not going to sit here and believe an obvious lie, just because world rugby wants to put more bums in seats
      
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      September 29, 2019 10:18am
      - Tall Man
        
        Only the truly stupid would have missed that the biggest poacher of players was Tonga and primarily from New Zealand but you continue with your negative attitude.
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:54pm
      - Paginus
        
        Okay you’re truly delusional at this point. So you’re saying that all those Tongans, who’s lineage is Tongan, who’s language is Tongan, who’s culture is Tongan and who’s value’s are Tongan.
        They magically become New Zealanders, just because they are born and raised here?
        People who believe you are truly stuck in a web of lies.
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:14pm
      - SGA
        
        They magically become New Zealanders, just because they are born and raised here?
        
        Nothing magical about it – they were born in NZ, they were raised in NZ, they carry NZ passports. By most sensible definitions that makes them a New Zealander. Their heritage may be Dutch, Chinese, or Jewish. Their family may still follow some aspects of Dutch, Chinese, or Jewish tradition, and perhaps they can also converse in Dutch, Mandarin, or Hebrew. That is irrelevant – they are still NZers.
        
        The same is true for people of Tongan ancestry.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:46pm
      - Paginus
        
        So NZ is a bit like those great multicultural countries like, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, etc?
        
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        September 30, 2019 7:39am
  - Tall Man
    
    Stop waving the “fuckwit flag”.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:29am
    - Paginus
      
      Calling me a fuckwit will never make those Islanders magically Japanese.
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:11pm
      - sooty
        
        You racist?
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:22pm
      - Tall Man
        
        True, but it does explain your problem succinctly.
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:51pm
- pdm
  
  A great effort by Japan who played almost all of the rugby in the match..
  
  Ireland were one dimensional for the last 60 minutes or so and looked like a very poor rugby league team having a very bad day with their one off runners dying with the ball.
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:37am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The Japanese state TV channel NHK led with the news of a “historical victory” at 8:45 p.m. (Japan time) last night.
    This win has gained a huge amount of attention in Japan, which needs some good news after the recent Typhoon and the impending rise in GST from 8% to 10%. (Cue news item of spinster in Tokyo buying 6 months’ worth of cat food for her 3 cats just before the GST goes up…)
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:34am
- JibberJabber
  
  Sounds like it was great game, I`ve got the SparkSport app, so yeah it was unwatchable online.
  Luckily I didn`t have to pay for it, they gave it to me when they connected the fibre a couple of weeks ago, so can`t really complain, lol.
  The mrs tried looking for it on TV1, Duke etc couldn`t find it, so don`t know whats up with watching the RWC, luck of the draw I guess.
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:41am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    There was no free to air coverage of the match. Fortunately, the Spark Sport stream was excellent throughout.
    
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    September 29, 2019 8:50am
    - Happychappy
      
      I am using a Phillip’s TV that is over 5 years old and haven’t had one problem yet streaming with reception of the world cup , I watched Argentina v Tonga and then Japan v Ireland and mine is through Wi Fi .
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:02am
    - Prince
      
      Excellent when the final whistle blew Spark Sport went straight to ads.
      When it returned our App froze then collapsed (new TV, excellent wifi). When we restarted the talking heads had moved on to the Namibia game.
      Frankly, Sky would have been better equipped to handle this event.
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:04am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Yes; that was my one criticism last night. We missed the scenes of joy and desolation. Weren’t the Japanese fans awesome though?
        
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        September 29, 2019 9:18am
      - Tall Man
        
        They did go back to the after match comments after the long…long…. ad break.
        
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        September 29, 2019 10:30am
  - Raphael
    
    I had no problems with streaming it on SparkSport
    
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    September 29, 2019 8:58am
    - KiWombat
      
      You were lucky then. Saw the first half of the match at local pub without any problems, but streaming at home was awful, 2nd half spent about 20 minutes buffering, and then the video froze. At least the audio continued behind the frozen video until it next buffered.
      
      We saw nothing of the last 10 minutes, only heard the audio, and by the time that buffered the game was already well and truly over.
      
      This was one of the games I was looking forward to, pretty peeved that our streaming was so lousy !
      
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      September 29, 2019 10:15pm
  - Steve Todd
    
    It’s not enough just to have the App. You also needed to have paid for the RWC live feed. That’s why you couldn’t watch it – you didn’t sign up for it.
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:04am
    - JibberJabber
      
      No, I have the RWC package it came free with the fibre connection and it worked fine with the ABs game, in the second half at least, yesterday online it had perfect picture quality , yet like all the other games I`ve tried to watch, the buffering has made it a waste of time.
      The problem is Spark decided to enter a pissing contest with Sky and their Stream just `aint up to it.
      
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      September 29, 2019 10:59am
      - Steve Todd
        
        I stand corrected, JJ. It was not at all clear from your comment that you had actually signed up for the RWC package.
        
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        September 29, 2019 4:35pm
  - pdm
    
    Sounds like you need a chromecast for your TV.
    
    Mind you the miserable bastards didn’t offer any thing other than the connection when we went to Fibre – took them about 3 months to turn up too
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:08am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      I splashed out the $40 extra to get a Chromecast Ultra pdm. I have no complaints at all about picture quality.
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:19am
      - pdm
        
        My pictures are very good too Inv. Only hiccup was last few minutes of Aussie v Fiji when the game was won anyway.
        
        Our Tv is about 5 years old so chromecast was necessary.
        
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        September 29, 2019 11:15am
    - I Hate Wordpress
      
      That’s not how line connection works, it’s not up to them.
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:57am
  - chaos
    
    Connect your tv directly, don’t use wifi
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:11am
  - MCos
    
    The Tonga game was on TV1
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:17am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    Bugger – sorry for accidental down tick. Meant to uptick.
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:25am
  - I Hate Wordpress
    
    The rugby package isn’t free, you pay extra for it. Did you not pay attention to the plan you selected?
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:55am
- Colville
  
  Sets the Japan vs Scotland game up nicely.
  Japan could go thru top of the pool leaving Ireland as a massive banana skin for us in the quarter final!
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:47am
  - Paginus
    
    You could also have Samoa beat Scotland tomorrow, setting up a nothing to lose Samoa VS a under pressure Ireland, for who gets second place.
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:02am
- Doubledimp
  
  And to note that apart from an aside about a few penalties, the Irish have been generous in their praise of the Brave Blossoms and reflective of their own performance. No sniping, no whinging, no trash-talk. Nice to see.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:21am
- Ultima
  
  Awesome game, I was yelling at the TV for Japan. Ireland may have peaked going into the tournament. Japan did their homework very well and played out of their skin.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:47am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Theres a world cup going on? Spark Sport you have stolen my dreams, how dare you…
  
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  September 29, 2019 11:16am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Jacinda now has China favourites to qualify from Pool A
  
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  September 29, 2019 11:32am
- Nutta
  
  Ireland won’t be disappointed with the loss. A quarter final vs ABs gives them the best chance of catching them early, before they get better and more confident in new player structures.
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Andrea Vance channels Steve Braunias
(not very well)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/116096132/new-zealand-is-going-to-be-an-amazing–51st-state-perhaps-the-best-state-you-have-ever-seen
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September 29, 2019 8:25am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Andrea Vance doesn’t do anything particularly well, ask the bow tied bouffanted buffoon how his year of delivery panned out
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:37am
- Biscuit
  
  Maggy, what’s with you introducing pollitickle stuff into this Rugby blog?
  
  To use a certain quote I heard bandied about this week:
  
  HOW DARE YOU!
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:26am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Just talk over me, men… I’m used to it.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:06am
    - sooty
      
      That’s trouble with been short!
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:24pm
- Tall Man
  
  It is childish in the extreme.
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:32am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Childish is a high point for Vance. She will be pleased accolade and will take that.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:22am
    - Tall Man
      
      Beats retarded I suppose 😉
      
      That was my first thought but “moderation anxiety” set in…..
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:56pm
Surely Knott

All the friends who’ve been sharing their international holidays on Facebook this year now sharing their Greta Thunberg posts? lol. I guess all of them will be having staycations from now on. Climate deniers should be anticipating air travel costs to drop.
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September 29, 2019 8:34am
- srylands
  
  I’d like to see parents do their own “climate strike”. No more driving their kids to school.
  
  I have worked with parents who leave the office every day at 3.00pm to pick up their kids from school in the SUV. They take the kids home. Or somewhere. And then return to the office about 4.00pm.
  
  It is bad for everything. Productivity, emissions, traffic, fitness..
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:57am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    And the reality is when they do return to the office all they do is clock watch until home time.
    
    Being a parent is a great way to get full-time pay for part-time work. Plus for those of us non-breeders it was galling to have to arrange our lives around their kids. I frequently got my holidays and weekends bumped because “such-and-such has kids…”
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:34am
    - Jules99
      
      What really amazed me was, when these parents didn’t need the time off any more, the left and went to less child friendly places. You would think they would help the young mums coming up behind them, but no, they didn’t care. Everyone else’s life had to revolve around THEIR kids.
      
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      September 29, 2019 10:00am
      - Tall Man
        
        It’s the new “mummy mantra”…
        
        The worst of it is that they are raising useless self indulgent spoilt young adults.
        
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        September 29, 2019 10:34am
  - MCos
    
    Kids have been going to school for hundreds of years, but it’s only in the last few that parents have driven them there.
    I walked from day one. Dad only dropped us off if the snow was above our waist.
    My kids were fortunate to be able to use the Wellington public transport long before it turned to custard.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:06am
    - srylands
      
      When I was a kid, we had one car. My father took that to work and left at 0600 getting home in the evening. And that would have been the case with nearly all the kids at school so there was no way to drive your kids to school even if you had been inclined to.
      
      The other thing that has changed is the attitude of employers, especially in the state sector. 20 years ago if you had announced to your employer that you would be taking an hour off every afternoon to take your kids to school, you would be looking for a new job.
      
      For professionals there are two peak periods of collaboration with colleagues 0900 – 1200 and 1400 – 1630. So if you are taking an hour off at 1500 – 1600 you are going to reduce productivity for everyone. However, these days raising such behaviour as a negative would be fatal.
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:44pm
      - sooty
        
        I took the horse. School had a horse paddock.
        Was I glade when we got a bike!
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:26pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Posted this yesterday…sorry, but your post begs a repeat.
    If I was to speak directly to the crowd of children.
    I may remind them, that without fossil fuels
    They would not have
    the paint to write their placards
    The cardboard to write on
    The stick to hold them up
    the nails to put the sign on the stick
    The clothes they are wearing
    The road they just marched on
    The buildings all around them
    In summary
    They would be a naked crowd standing cold and in fewer numbers in a barren field.
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:05pm
- Wangas Feral
  
  Add to that the protesters would have almost to a person being clothed head to foot in garments made from oil. They should be spinning wool and dressing in homespun clothes.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:27am
  - Lizziep
    
    Go back to picking that cotton by hand , not using any machines. See how they like that aye?
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:48am
    - igm
      
      Now Stephiewimp will say that is racist!
      
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      September 29, 2019 10:48am
  - Jules99
    
    No wool – they want to stop farming as well. I guess they will have to collect flax and make linen.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:01am
    - Tall Man
      
      They could use hemp but they’re so fucking dumb they’d spend their time trying to smoke it.
      
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      September 29, 2019 10:50am
      - igm
        
        Looks like that silly little Swede has already had too much dak.
        
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        September 29, 2019 11:27am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You don’t make linen out of NZ flax…
      
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      September 29, 2019 11:08am
      - Jack5
        
        They used to make rope for sailing ships out of our NZ flax – phormium, but yachties today generally use polyester based products.
        
        It’s a sturdy fibre. There must be some modern industrial use for it.
        
        High quality paper for artists, and perhaps biodegradable fishing nets might be possibilities. Wikipedia says Maori made flax seine nets up to 1000 metres long.
        
        Linen flax was grown in the South Island in a wartime scheme subsidised by the British Government (fuselage material for Mosquito bombers was one of the uses of the product, it also went intofire hoses). There were 17 factories in the South Island, with the last closing in 1981.
        
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        September 29, 2019 2:53pm
Paulus

I was intrigued with the UK Supreme Court’s decision and from whence this Court arose as I had never heard of it.
Apparently it was formed in 2009 at the insistence of Brussels so that any other decision made by say the Privy Council, or any other UK Court, can be overridden in favour of what the EC ‘s instructions are. The judges become EC appointed political zombies.
This effectively gave Brussels the rights to control what they wanted.
It was started by Tony Blair at the time when he was Prime Minister, but not constituted until after he ceased to be PM – presumably it was in his favour for after PMship and his wife’s legal career.
I wonder whether after Brexit it will be wound back allowing the UK to control its own Laws once again ?
The Privy Council was founded in 1708 and has done well since. Presumably Helen Clark saw Brownie points in dropping it from New Zealand to foster her own points elsewhere.
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September 29, 2019 8:45am
- Jules99
  
  I lived in the UK and barely recall the Supreme Court being a thing. However the people are aware of it now, and I suspect its days are numbered.
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:03am
- Tall Man
  
  Take private firearms or at least know where they all are and control the courts. Where has that been tried before?
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:52am
- kowtow
  
  Paulus
  
  Here’s an interesting item on that issue. It’s behind a pay wall , I use press reader.
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/27/entangled-politics-court-has-wrongly-seized-supreme-power/
  
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  September 29, 2019 11:27am
KevO'Brien

Is Soros a world owner?
Funding Trump take down.
https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/whistleblower-complaint-relies-george-soros-group/

Funding climate take down.
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/28/george-soros-emerges-as-major-funder-of-global-climate-strike-groups/
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September 29, 2019 8:51am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Methinks it is time that Soros was exposed for what he is. A threat to free people. He and the UN want to enslave us.
  World Government is just another name for an extreme form of Communism.
  
  And our so called Leader is right behind it.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:37am
  - igm
    
    Where is the mob these days . . . Soros would surely be on their hit list.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:49am
  - Tall Man
    
    She thinks she’ll one of the elite leaders. She doesn’t have the brains to realise she’s nothing but a follower, like crazy greta.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:53am
- The King
  
  “We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own” – Maurice Samuel “You Gentiles” p155.
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:14am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Good luck with that.
    First rule of “taking over the world” is don’t tell people you are taking over the world.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:37am
    - The King
      
      >destroy
      
      >takeover
      
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      September 29, 2019 7:16pm
Yvette

Winston announces NZ First and Labour Coalition October 19 2017
Before that date the Coalition did not exist and presumably had no authority to do anything.
Like plant trees.
So why is the kiwiblog Government Tree Deficit counter on over 201.8 million – over two years worth at 100m a year – when the two year anniversary of this bloody Government is not for another 19 days?

I mean Crap! – Shane needs all the help he can get!

Note: No, I am not in the pay of George Soros
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September 29, 2019 9:06am
kevn

@Kev… Soros is a committed globalist/anarchist.
He also funded the bulk of the ‘migrants’ from South America up to the USA. Trump seems have been effective there.
Prob a friend of the UN (one world govt) as well, the other globalist outfit.
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September 29, 2019 9:07am
stephieboy

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“Soros is a committed globalist/anarchist”

And a Jew important to a great many!

Otherwise, utter garbage!
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September 29, 2019 9:13am
- The King
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:16am
stephieboy

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Go Greta, go!

Climate change: Greta Thunberg calls out the ‘haters’

“The haters are as active as ever”, the 16-year-old Swedish climate activist posted on social media on Thursday, “going after me, my looks, my clothes, my behaviour and my differences”. Anything, she says, rather than talk about the climate crisis.

It hasn’t stopped her from campaigning. On Friday, she led another of her climate strikes, heading up a huge demonstration in Montreal, demanding international aviation does more to cut its carbon footprint.

But she is clearly very annoyed, accusing critics of “crossing every line to avert the focus” with, what she calls, lies and conspiracy theories.

Of course, the attention isn’t surprising. Over the past year, Greta Thunberg has arguably done more to galvanise global action on climate than any other single individual.
And there is no question the unnerving power of her rhetoric comes in part from the fact that she is so young….”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/399848/climate-change-greta-thunberg-calls-out-the-haters

Unquestioned that her haters and baiters are on KB and elsewhere are unhinged and deeply afraid!
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- chaos
  
  You are the unhinged one, trolling people. Just because people do not support what she is saying doesn’t make them unhinged, I guess to you these 500 scientists are unhinged
  
  https://clintel.nl/brief-clintel-aan-vn-baas-guterres/
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:29am
  - The King
    
    The left has zero ideological consistency. they think using children as political pawns makes them immune to criticism.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:32am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Agree, King. They are using a child this year as the spokesperson for climate change. A smart move as the previous use of movie stars, royalty and celebrities flying around the world in private jets to get the message out about reducing emissions and consumption was working against them due to the blatant hypocrisy.
      
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      September 29, 2019 11:42am
      - stephieboy
        
        “They are using a child this year as the spokesperson…”
        
        ????
        
        Evidence?
        
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        September 29, 2019 12:16pm
- Charmaine Hawke
  
  So what are you doing to save the planet Stefi aside from saying “go Greta”.
  Give up your computer
  Turn off your phone
  Walk everywhere
  Give up all plastic in every form then come and talk to us climate realists.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:33am
  - coge
    
    The UN have allowed themselves to become Greta’s bitch.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:07am
    - Rob2
      
      The child is an insult to the intelligent people of the world.
      Brainwashed and dumber than a sack full of lead.
      
      completely incapable of any independent thinking and unable to answer anything but patsy questions.
      
      Yesterday’s noise tomorrow, fortunately.
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:08pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Yes Greta….change the world, by all means, but start with YOURSELF.
    Leaders …lead…(obvious) they do not stand behind people pushing them into doing something they are not prepared to do themselves…FIRST.
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:13pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Charmaine Hawke, practice what you preach!
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:17pm
    - chaos
      
      That means what everything thought, he is doing nothing and trying to cover that up, typical
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:40pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      We are, by not preaching global warming alarmism.
      It is people like you who are preaching.
      
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      September 29, 2019 1:17pm
- mark15
  
  Please explain in what way she is qualified to speak on such matters.
  I’ll wait.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:34am
- Liberty
  
  “demanding international aviation does more to cut its carbon footprint.”
  
  What a silly little bitch.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:35am
  - chaos
    
    International aviation are doing more for climate change than her. That’s the problem, the people she attacks are working hard on cleaning up their industry.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:07am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      https://www.traveller.com.au/airline-weight-reduction-to-save-fuel-the-crazy-ways-airlines-save-weight-on-planes-h14vlh
      Win Win…..airlines are more profitable and less emissions generated…..planet saved
      See Greta….now that is doing something about fuel consumption and emissions.
      Shouting at a UN conference….is not.
      
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      September 29, 2019 1:20pm
      - chaos
        
        Problem with Greta is I think as the scam collapses and it will soon, she will take her life as she realises how manipulated and controlled she was
        
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        September 29, 2019 1:58pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    OK then kids. All flights to Disneyland are now cancelled.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:36am
    - chaos
      
      Oh thank god, no more kiwi teenagers taking measles into Disney
      
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      September 29, 2019 11:17am
  - Tall Man
    
    Will the idiot pm stop using the Boeing “horse float”?
    
    I doubt it.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:56am
  - calendar girl
    
    Are aeroplanes expected, like birds, to flap their wings?
    
    What makes this SLG believe that airlines don’t already do everything in their power to reduce their fuel usage and and thereby their costs?
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    Liberty, advancing the cause of clime denial with boorish abuse!
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:18pm
    - sooty
      
      Were as you just abuse your self!
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:31pm
- srylands
  
  I wonder what her ideas are for reducing greenhouse emissions from planes? Perhaps she can consult for GE and Rolls Royce.
  
  Oh she has no ideas? Oh I guess she is only 16 and she does not have a PhD in aeronautical engineering. But that’s OK. She can do her “How dare you” creep out thing. All the engineers at RR and GE will redouble their efforts. Or power the engines with corn fructose syrup.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Greta’s message is falling flat with the Leaders of some countries.
    
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/leaders-of-france-germany-and-australia-rebuke-greta-thunberg_3097308.html
    
    French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel distanced themselves from Thunberg over her speech to the United Nations and a legal complaint Thunberg filed that accuses France and Germany, among other nations, of a lack of action on climate change. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison faulted Thunberg for subjecting Australian children to “needless anxiety.”
    
    “They’ve got enough things to be anxious about,” Morrison said of his own daughters. “We’ve got to let kids be kids. We can’t have them growing up as mushrooms, but we’ve got to get a bit of context into this.”
    
    and
    “Europe’s political leaders are increasingly concerned about losing their climate agenda to eco-fanatics and extremists.”
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:01am
    - stephieboy
      
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      MW, Angela Merkel distancing herself?
      
      Not according to this report,
      
      report,https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/05/15/citing-greta-thunberg-merkel-backs-decarbonization-by-2050/#14dc762535de
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Do you understand the concept of time, stephieboy?
        
        My references are to Merkel & Macron last week, not earlier this year.
        
        “I would like to take the opportunity to strongly contradict her in one matter,” Merkel said, according to The Times of London. “She did not adequately address the way technology and innovation, especially in the energy sector but also in energy conservation, raise possibilities for reaching our goals.”
        
        https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/worlds-leaders-turn-on-greta-thunberg-after-legal-move-over-carbon-emissions-w3dnr75bs
        
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        September 29, 2019 1:04pm
    - Okahu
      
      Well, Scott Morrison would know a bit about creating anxiety in children given his membership in a quaint group who teach preschoolers that eternal burning in hell awaits non believers and transgressors of the faith. Ahh, the joys of hellfire, damnation and genital mutilation. And the sick fuk wants to pile in on a kid that sees the emperor is not just naked but deluded and dangerous.
      
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      September 29, 2019 1:39pm
      - Scott
        
        Okahu – very hard to see how your comment got past moderation? Oh I know. It was against Christianity. That’s all right then. Can you try sticking it to Muhammad next time? I’d be interested to see if that gets past the moderator?
        
        But look if heaven and hell are real places then it’s wise to know about it before it’s too late. So you can start loving God and loving your neighbour. Why not start today? ?
        
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        September 29, 2019 2:27pm
      - SGA
        
        It was against Christianity. That’s all right then. Can you try sticking it to Muhammad next time? I’d be interested to see if that gets past the moderator?
        
        Really Scott? Have the mocking comments about Islam being a religion of peace or the age of Muhammad’s child bride been banned? I thought those still got through?
        
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        September 29, 2019 8:07pm
  - Martin Williams
    
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    Engine manufacturers will redouble their efforts if that’s what the consumer wants.
    
    Greta is about changing consumer awareness and behaviour, and it’s genius.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:35am
    - kevn
      
      @Martin… Satire of course?
      
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      September 29, 2019 11:15am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      No it’s not, it’s virtue-signalling bullshit.
      
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      September 29, 2019 11:42am
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        What do you know about what is virtual signalling,Captain Mainwaring?
        
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/06/20/in-trumps-world-morality-is-for-losers/
        
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        September 29, 2019 12:25pm
    - MrTips
      
      Greta Thunberg has OCD, Asperger’s and bad acting skills. Plus she is completely unaware of the unsettled science, the machinations of the ecofascists and her own manipulative parents.
      
      This makes her supremely qualified to be completely ignored on climate change.
      
      Her backers need sunlight though.
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:07pm
    - Rob2
      
      Greta is a stooge to be discarded with an unhappy hereafter when the time comes. Why would he parents allow this to happen to the child?
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:11pm
      - Tall Man
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:48pm
    - Wangas Feral
      
      She is about nothing. Everything that comes out of her mouth is controlled and scripted. When it isn’t she cannot string a sentence together.
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:33pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Right WG @12.33 pm that was apparent from the get go when she read “standing here” while seated. However there seemed to be universal agreement when she said ” I should be in school” to confirm she got one thing right. Lol
        
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        September 29, 2019 2:05pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Or power the engines with corn fructose syrup.
    and force the price of food up.
    making starvation more prevalent.
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:16pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  I’m not afraid at all stephie. The climate has changed since creation, and will continue to change regardless of what man does or doesn’t do.
  
  As for Greta Thunberg, she’s saying the same things as another young woman at a UN conference on Global Warming in Rio in 1992; almost word for word. The world didn’t end then, and it won’t end now.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:37am
  - John Warren
    
    Oh, I remember her now… the Suzuki girl? Where is she now, I wonder. Probably married, with kids and an SUV.
    
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    September 29, 2019 7:01pm
- srylands
  
  Stephie I have met many brilliant young people. Not 16 but lots between the ages of 17 and 24. Aspiring economists and scientists mainly. These are impressive and engaging people with ideas that come from deep thought and analysis.
  
  And you know NONE of these young people resemble Greta in any manner.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:43am
- Yvette
  
  Stephieboy, is Greta so great, when her performance diverts attention from the likes of this –
  
  “Most logs are exported to China, India and South Korea where they are converted into products with varying lifetimes … when aggregated, the decay curves for these logs indicate that in just over two years half the carbon in exported logs has been returned to the atmosphere. Storing the waste from fossil emissions in forest sinks is simply delaying the inevitable.”
  
  Is it transparent, honest and displaying integrity – indeed is it at all moral – to be sending New Zealand’s locked up carbon to China – a country much more massively polluted than New Zealand – when that carbon may be released around 2050, a date New Zealand may be zero carbon emissions free, because we sent it off somewhere else?
  
  [1] https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/03/27/507676/end-forest-sinks-for-co2-says-environment-commissioner#
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:51am
- Paginus
  
  [Mod – deleted, and warning]
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:57am
- andrew davies
  
  No doubt Steffie you, like me, are looking forward to Greta campaigning in China and India.
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    sndrew davies,
    
    hopefully, she will do just that!
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:30pm
  - John Warren
    
    And Kenya. Where, I just read, they are building a monstrous new coal-fired power station that will bring 20 million people onto the grid.
    
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    September 29, 2019 7:03pm
Fletch

I posted this late last night on yesterday’s GD so probably nobody saw it –

If any further proof were needed that the whole “whistleblower” thing is a setup – it now turns out that the intelligence community changed the regulations around whistleblowers right before this complaint was released against Trump.

BREAKING: Federal records show that the intelligence community secretly revised the formal whistleblower complaint form in August 2019 to eliminate the requirement of direct, first-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.https://t.co/R3BXndeYgc

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 27, 2019

The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”

Let’s face it. The whole thing is a hit-job on Trump, from the changing of this law to the highly detailed ‘complaint’.

Now questions are being asked as to whether the intelligence community IG aided the ‘whistleblower’.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/09/28/intelligence-community-ig-actively-aid-whistleblower-impeachment-quest/
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September 29, 2019 9:19am
- Michael
  
  Yep let’s see sunlight and sacking with no pension or treason charges.
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:58pm
lastmanstanding

A random thought. The earths population is rising and there are fears as to how to feed the extra mouths.

If the temperature falls wont that make it harder to grow crops and food to feed these extra mouths?
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September 29, 2019 9:31am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Cold temperatures during the growing season are a major problem for crop producers and are difficult to combat out in the field.
  https://electroverse.net/category/crop-loss/
  
  High temperatures can usually be managed if there is adequate water.
  
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  September 29, 2019 9:52am
- The King
  
  Why do think media and governments are encouraging us to eat bugs?
  
  They are even making childrens toys to encourage bug eating and videos like this..
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTYEaBTc7zY
  
  Articles like this are increasing everyday..
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/114406638/study-shows-new-zealanders-willing-to-eat-insects
  
  Of course our overlords will still be eating prime steaks.
  
  But you lowly goyim need to eat the bug burger, bigot!
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:28am
  - tf78
    
    There won’t be many bugs as most will be killed after flying into wind generators. Flies and crickets will be plentiful though. How about snails and slugs cooked in garlic butter.
    
    Nah, I’ll stick to my meat and vege thanks all the same.
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:09am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Maggot sausage already in production
    https://nypost.com/2019/05/01/humans-will-eat-maggot-sausages-as-a-meat-alternative-scientists/
    
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    September 29, 2019 11:12am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      er……. no thanks.
      
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      September 29, 2019 11:44am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Most falls of civilisations have occurred during colder periods. A slightly warmer world is actually better for everyone. More CO2 is actually better for the world as well, as crops and other plants need less moisture to thrive. Buit of course Greta disagrees, so we had better fuck the world’s economies and go back to living in caves….
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:42am
Fletch

Jeremy Clarkson brands Greta Thunberg a ‘spoilt brat’ who should ‘shut up and get back to school’.

WHEN a teenage girl has an angry, tearful strop, most parents just send them to their rooms until they’ve calmed down.

However, when 16-year-old Greta Thunberg got on to the stage at the UN this week and had a full-on adolescent meltdown, she was deafened by the applause.

Not from me she wasn’t.

Because I was in the bog, being sick.

“You have stolen my dreams and my childhood,” she sobbed.

“We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you?”

Right, well in the immortal words of Samuel L Jackson: “Allow me to retort.”

How dare we? No. How dare you sail to America on a carbon fibre yacht that you didn’t build which cost £15million, that you didn’t earn, and which has a back-up diesel engine that you didn’t mention.

So how dare you stand there and lecture us, you spoilt brat.

And yes, you are spoilt because when you told your mum and dad to stop using planes and give up meat, they didn’t behave like sane parents and ignore you. They actually said, “Yes, dear.” And did.

What they should have done is point out that life is tragic.

Some people are born bright and some are born stupid.

Some are beautiful and some are not.

Some have rich parents who give them everything but love.

Some have poor parents who have nothing to give except love.

Now shut up and let them get on with it.

This is how the world works. It’s how the world has always worked.

And banging your fists on the table won’t change a thing. You’ll learn that when you’ve got a few more years under your belt.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10022396/greta-thunberg-meltdown-wont-help-world/
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September 29, 2019 9:31am
- Martin Williams
  
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  Some people try to punch someone who doesn’t bring them steak and some don’t.
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:25am
  - MrTips
    
    Some Martin’s give Martin’s a bad name
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:11pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      Where did you go to school?
      
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      September 29, 2019 12:50pm
      - MrTips
        
        Not the “special” one you went to that had Labour summer camps, that’s for sure
        
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        September 29, 2019 2:47pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Whereas labour go straight to sexual assault.
    
    Just for interest’s sake, were you a giver or a getter?
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:44pm
- sooty
  
  Well said that man, Vroom Vroom!
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:31am
- chaos
  
  This is what it looks like to have your childhood stolen, hmmm, one of these kids hasn’t had their childhood stolen, I wonder which
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFg48MmU4AAVcaa.jpg:large
  
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  September 29, 2019 11:38am
  - GT Build
    
    They look like they are in lithium mines for all those batteries that they say we need to save the planet
    
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    September 29, 2019 2:25pm
  - Tall Man
    
    But but but without those child slaves how would greta get her cell phone?
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:41pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Greta…try to be grateful.
  Remember it was the culmination of past 4 generations that gave you all the toys you now play with and take for granted
  The freedom to not be at work aged 12
  The “right” to vote as an ADULT of any age, as men without land/title could no more vote than women.
  It appears that some unscrupulous adults, want to manipulate you for their nefarious reasons (look up any works you don’t understand).
  
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  September 29, 2019 1:34pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I think “grateful” will stuff her up.
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:42pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Cue the other 16 year old’s opening words when she addressed the UN
    
    Today, it is an honour for me to be speaking again after a long time. Being here with such honourable people is a great moment in my life.
    
    I don’t know where to begin my speech. I don’t know what people would be expecting me to say. But first of all, thank you to God for whom we all are equal and thank you to every person who has prayed for my fast recovery and a new life. I cannot believe how much love people have shown me. I have received thousands of good wish cards and gifts from all over the world. Thank you to all of them. Thank you to the children whose innocent words encouraged me. Thank you to my elders whose prayers strengthened me.
    
    I would like to thank my nurses, doctors and all of the staff of the hospitals in Pakistan and the UK and the UAE government who have helped me get better and recover my strength.
    
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    September 29, 2019 4:08pm
srylands

I wonder what her ideas are for reducing greenhouse emissions from planes? Perhaps she can consult for GE and Rolls Royce.

Oh she has no ideas? Oh I guess she is only 16 and she does not have a PhD in aeronautical engineering. But that’s OK. She can do her “How dare you” creep out thing. All the engineers at RR and GE will redouble their efforts. Or power the engines with corn fructose syrup.

[edit… Duplicate comment]
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- stephieboy
  
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  srylands, the ignorance of the expert and the effrontery of the layperson!
  
  You a PhD in aeronautical engineering etc??
  
  If Greta can’t comment how can you?
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:37pm
  - srylands
    
    Sorry your comment is incompressible.
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:50pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND …

Fonterra’s new strategy is all about cutting the cloth to suit the purse. The new overarching strategy is just the first step on a long path … Keith Woodford … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/101893/fonterra%E2%80%99s-new-strategy-all-about-cutting-cloth-suit-purse-new-overarching

… concluding …

… The new regional structure will create opportunities for strategic redundancies but will also bring tis challenges. There is no word on shifting the Head Office from Auckland to a regional centre such as Hamilton, which many farmers would like to see. Many would see that as an action consistent with cutting the cloth to suit the purse.

At this stage, most of Fonterra’s farmer members support the current leadership despite enormous disappointment, frustration and anger at how events have unfolded. However, if this year does not go well, then next year there will be nowhere for the leaders to hide.

Outside of Fonterra itself, there will be many people who will criticise Fonterra’s new strategy of drawing back to something much more basic. It is indeed a sad day. The problem is that Fonterra has made such a mess with its international endeavours that it really has no other option in relation to branded products and the international milk pools.

I find it remarkable that Fonterra is still only playing at the edges of the A2 issue of which there was no mention by Fonterra in its strategy announcement. I also note that Synlait has now confirmed its milk payments for the 2018/19 year, and with premiums included, its average payment is 23 cents per kg milksolids above Fonterra. Yili is also paying above Fonterra. Tatua will confirm its payout on Monday and it will be much higher again.
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September 29, 2019 9:55am
- Cobolt24
  
  The number of new homes completed in Auckland over the three months to July was up 27% on a year earlier and may rise another 27% over the next two years | Interest.
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  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/101889/number-new-homes-completed-auckland-over-three-months-july-was-27-year-earlier-and
  
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  September 29, 2019 11:40am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Cobolt24 … Good one !
    
    The Coalition Government will be acutely aware of the political consequences of failing to substantially ramp up new housing production. going forward
    
    The July IPSOS Issues Monitor says it all. It needs to be read closely ….
    
    The IPSOS New Zealand Issues Monitor – July 2019
    
    https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2019-08/6th_ipsos_new_zealand_issues_monitor_released_1_aug_19.pdf
    
    … and too … Statistics NZ latest building consents for the month of July …
    
    Statistics NZ … Building Consents Issued … July 2019
    
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-july-2019
    
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    September 29, 2019 12:53pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Any increase in the rate building in Auckland is predicated that the city can provide the required infrastructure.
    
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    September 29, 2019 4:09pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Alloytoo … Are the local government laggards learning anything from top performer Selwyn ? …
      
      NEW ZEALAND LOCAL GOVERNMENT DEBT: Why does the fastest growing Selwyn District Council have such remarkably low current and projected debt levels ( current 108.7% ratio ) ? …
      
      Infometrics shows that council debt levels have been rising over the last decade and are scheduled to rise further in the next decade as revenues are insufficient for replacement projects, let alone growth projects … Brad Olsen … Interest Co NZ
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/news/101846/infometrics-shows-council-debt-levels-have-been-rising-over-last-decade-and-are
      
      With local elections in full swing, there’s a greater focus on the direction that our councils are moving towards and how much is it going to cost. … read more via hyperlink above …
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      … If all Councils performed like the Selwyn District Council (adjoining Christchurch), we would not have an unnecessary housing crisis …
      
      Statistics NZ … Building Consents Issued … July 2019
      
      https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-july-2019
      
      … check graphs 5 & 6 2017 Information Page http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …
      
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      September 29, 2019 4:52pm
Tony Stuart

Here’s National’s latest attack advert:

NZ National Party
@NZNationalParty
Labour wants to stop National from showing you their MPs answering questions and making speeches in Parliament.

Here’s how Question Time would look if Labour got their way.

https://twitter.com/NZNationalParty/status/1178014006931591169

Trevor Mallard must be regretting his decision on Thursday. I fear for his health if the adverts continue.
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September 29, 2019 10:07am
- chaos
  
  That’s the best one yet, shows the censorship of this current corrupt government
  
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  September 29, 2019 10:18am
- MCos
  
  I notice that tweet has four and a half thousand views and 128 likes.
  I get the impression that this kerfuffle has caused more interest than the actual ads.
  To whose advantage is a moot point.
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:17pm
- Martin Williams
  
  As always the National Party trades in falsehoods passed off as something clever.
  
  Question Time would not look like that. Question Time would look like it always has, unedited and impartial.
  
  For the National Party to appropriate and edit Parliamentary footage for their own American-style, party-specific ends is not what real, fair-play Kiwis want.
  
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  September 29, 2019 2:57pm
  - Batman
    
    Pull the other one Martin.
    
    Their point is that nobody could ever use question time footage without the permission of the person being questioned or doing the questioning, thus giving either party a censorship tool to suppress anything that doesn’t go well from being publicised by the other side.
    
    It’s ridiculous.
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:17pm
  - Tall Man
    
    How would you know what a “real fair-play kiwi” wants?
    
    You support the lecher party where sexual abuse seems an “expected hazard”. Pretty sure nobody other than diehard labour molesters would support that.
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:30pm
sooty

Come on Duck tv!
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September 29, 2019 10:33am
Maggy Wassilieff

The Left’s favourite Professor falls out of favour

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@readingroom/2019/09/26/828890/a-book-defending-free-speech-rejected-for-fear-of-hate-speech
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September 29, 2019 10:50am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  MW, the article goes into some depth as to what is a complex and nuanced issue.
  
  If Flynn cant get Emerald to publish then he can find another or put it up online
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:41pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    My post seems to have gone whoosh over your head…
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:01pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Perhaps she’s short of stature as well as intellect….. 😉
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:27pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Being intellectually stunted, everything goes over stephie’s head.
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:48pm
    - Michael
      
      No Maggy, He doesn’t want to see/hear or understand.
      He’s just a drive by.
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:08pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Labour quality–fails to understand basics.
    
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    September 29, 2019 7:45pm
Jack5

Dairy industry’s Asian labour scandal …

Filipino blows whistle on Asian labour in the New Zealand dairy industry.

Long hours, threats against workers who speak out, poor accommodation, and loan-sharking by financers in the Philippines.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12271924
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September 29, 2019 11:08am
- Martin Williams
  
  Key’s rockstar economy seemed so easy, didn’t it?
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:15pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and long lost dream since these clowns got in.
    We are pining for their return, I’m sure even lefty’s are too, as they run out of our taxes to spend.
    
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    September 29, 2019 1:37pm
    - Tall Man
      
      “Payback” 2020…….
      
      When I was told by some simpleton that “ardern was a breath of fresh air”, I laughed and said she was more like a smelly old fart… Looks like I was right… again.
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:20pm
      - Jack5
        
        The term “rock star economy” was applied to New Zealand by a vastly overconfident banker in Sydney. He wasn’t from one of the trading banks that ply in NZ.
        
        It was a time of much hype, when raw GDP growth figures were bandied about rather than those for GDP per capita. It was time when it was broadly accepted that there was an easy way to prosperity – just quickly double the population through immigration. And if you got a big slice of the immigration from Asia and the Middle East you could shut down opposition by shouting “racism!”,
        
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        September 29, 2019 5:31pm
  - chaos
    
    The rock start economy took a lot of hard work, something you people know nothing about and are quickly destroying as the regions are struggling, something that despite the lies of the left weren’t happening under national as they were booming
    
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    September 29, 2019 1:54pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      A lot of hard work from immigrants exploited by dairy farmers, yes.
      
      Those regions might have been booming (yes, I’ve seen the mint John Deers clogging up the highways), but clearly that was on the back of cheap immigrant labour, and very very poor regard for the waterways.
      
      The point being, you can have whatever economy you want if you disregard human beings and the environment.
      
      This is the very founding philosophy of the National Party!
      
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      September 29, 2019 2:32pm
      - Tall Man
        
        What’s labour’s current philosophy……. Whatever “what’s in it for wynston tells them”. Loser.
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:22pm
      - chaos
        
        Bullshit, and your evidence for that is what, an article about what took place with an immigrant during the Ardern government. And I live in the regions with some of the biggest dairy farmers around me and the workers are very well taken care of and paid. Actually the only one that I can think of that could be exploiting its workers is the one down the road that is completely automated, I’m not sure they pay the robots that do the milking
        
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        September 29, 2019 3:42pm
      - chaos
        
        Tall Man it seems labour’s policy is to let more low income workers into the country. Weird, you would think the rabid left would be against that, guess they would rather see foreigners employed than kiwis.
        
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        September 29, 2019 4:13pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Chaos, guys like martin clearly demonstrate that labour is a derelict delaying it’s final death throes by sucking at the ardern stardust teat.
        
        Their irrational actions are a clear sign that they don’t have a central policy, it’s whatever pops into their tiny brain for the day and that could give them an excuse for another working party to fill with ex labour lackies.
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:53pm
      - Sacha
        
        @ MW:
        National Party, founding principles 1936:
        To promote good citizenship and self-reliance; to combat communism and socialism; to maintain freedom of contract; to encourage private enterprise, to safeguard individual rights and the privilege of ownership; to oppose interference by the State in business, and State control of industry.
        
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        September 29, 2019 8:30pm
  - srylands
    
    It was not easy. It was bloody hard won.
    
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    September 29, 2019 9:53pm
- Piniwi
  
  Funny Jack5 @11.08 am the unions have apparently found one unanimous disgruntled Filipino worker who has sampled work in at least 2 other countries. That is out of over 2 million OFW world wide who interestingly contribute over 10% of GDP with the amounts they send home. However it is a given there are some unscrupulous operators dong very nicely out of this industry as they place workers. In a country where cash is used to buy votes in local a national Governments.
  Sadly for many OFW the best paying locations are also among those who treat them like second class or worse.
  This one looks like just another union beat up to suit their own current needs and direction.
  
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  September 29, 2019 2:43pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I personally know of a few of these workers. One is collecting over $100K pa and the others are all enjoying both the money and the climate… not as humid as home.
    
    I also know of this person who is really unhappy with her employment in the prime minister’s office in fact, she’s said being sexually assaulted has really taken the shine of her job. Does that mean all labour party employees and interns are suffering the same fate?
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:26pm
    - Jack5
      
      Tall Man, presumably the Filipino is on a share-milking or some similar contract.
      
      There are several angles to the migrant labour on dairy farms.
      
      Some see the dairy industry as following the education industry in using a track to NZ citizenship as an attraction for foreigners. That is another form of subsidising an industry. If for dairy farming and education, why not for all industries, and how would that go down with the NZ public?
      
      Further, hat is the effect on family farming, the tradition that built NZ agriculture? Does Asian labour, either cheap or enticed by the chance of residency, help or further disadvantage family farms compared with corporate farms? Do we want family farming to survive? If not, let’s be explicit about it.
      
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      September 29, 2019 5:46pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Hi Jack. Nope, he’s a farm manager in the Central North Island with about half a dozen guys under him, Two farms under his control and the owner is now pretty much absentee but I suppose you need to pay the big bucks to get someone decent in Taihape.
        
        This guy has been here a while and has worked his way up from a farm labourer in Fielding area. The other guys have come to NZ through this guy and my understanding is that the “recruiters” in Manila are part of the problem.
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:36pm
Liberty

The worry is not Greta and her minions . With their fad of the week.
It is the teachers and academic who molest the minds of the vulnerable by endorsing the over emotive twaddle.
It is the lefty media promoting a Government agenda.
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September 29, 2019 11:12am
- Fletch
  
  To be honest, I think the impeachment thing will work in Trump’s favour. I am wondering if he didn’t put it all out there like a tar baby that the Dems couldn’t resist punching…. lol
  
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  September 29, 2019 3:31pm
  - Batman
    
    That is a genuinely insane strategy, though. So, seems legit?
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:53pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Just admit it Batman, Trump is smarter than the average bear……. ardern is not.
      
      People deride him, say he’s a crap businessman, doesn’t pay his debts, lies to people and is really a thicko…. Well, I wish I was as dumb and unsuccessful as him.
      
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      September 29, 2019 6:48pm
wreck1080

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Trump supporters/global warming deniers (usually one and the same) having a tough week!

Must be some very smelly basements around NZ.
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September 29, 2019 11:13am
- chaos
  
  Does your mummy know you are on her computer?
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:02pm
- Scott
  
  Lots of people don’t believe in global warming. As the weather has been cool in Masterton most mornings I’m just not feeling very warm. But look outside. Is the world ending? Are the plants dying? Has the cat turned over and died? Given such a supposed catastrophe on the horizon there is very little evidence of it.
  
  Regarding Trump – he is awesome! I just love it when he calls out the fake news media. And boy have they been busy lately. It was Trump /Russia for two years! Now it’s Trump / Ukraine!
  
  Who knew Trump could collude with some many foreign powers to steal the election from Hillary Clinton in 2016 and now Joe Biden in 2020? ?
  
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  September 29, 2019 2:35pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Just like the other “awesome” leader Sir John Key. The left credit them with everything from baby eating to solving the world’s problems.
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:39pm
- Tall Man
  
  Infested with those pervy labour supporters you mean?
  
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  September 29, 2019 3:18pm
rightoverlabour

I see record temperatures in the United States are once again a problem… for the alarmists

https://watchers.news/2019/09/28/september-2019-rockies-blizzard-snow/
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September 29, 2019 11:29am
- wreck1080
  
  You should listen more to people who study such things. Like, real scientists!
  
  The problem is that you are not quite smart enough to realise your limitations.
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:39pm
  - chaos
    
    here is 500 real scientists for you.
    
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    September 29, 2019 1:53pm
    - wreck1080
      
      You yourself and your buddies don’t count.
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:31pm
      - chaos
        
        Link actually didn’t post,
        
        https://clintel.nl/brief-clintel-aan-vn-baas-guterres/
        
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        September 29, 2019 4:06pm
    - surfing
      
      Ha , that link is the stupidest anti-global warming site I’ve seen. It effectively confirms anthropogenic global warming .
      
      They are saying that they don’t agree with the most extreme projections, and nor do I!!
      
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      September 29, 2019 6:12pm
      - chaos
        
        It’s actually not an anti global warming website, so, ummm, I guess you proved you don’t know very much. And considering who the 500 scientists that signed it are, shows it’s not the website that is stupid, but you.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:06pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Whereas you expose your limitations on a regular basis.
    
    Do you have to be a moron to believe the new “greta is god” bullshit? Probably not but it does seem to help.
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:17pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Note to Greta….
      We are sorry that we didn’t have this “Green thing” in our day.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0w4Y6qdzOI
      
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      September 29, 2019 5:05pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Excellent. Thanks.
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:45pm
  - Fletch
    
    Most record high temperatures in the United States were set in the 1930s.
    
    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/scec/records/all/tmax
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:41pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I do, every day, Tony Heller, Lindzen, Christy, Curry, Feynman, Ball, These guys below….
    
    Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years
    
    /s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years
    
    /s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years
    
    /s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years
    
    /s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years
    
    /s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years
    
    /s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years
    
    /s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years
    
    /s/ Anita Gale
    
    /s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years
    
    /s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years
    
    /s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years
    
    /s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space centre, 22 years
    
    /s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years
    
    /s/ Thomas J. Harmon
    
    /s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years
    
    /s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years
    
    /s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years
    
    /s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years
    
    /s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space centre, 24 years
    
    /s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, arse.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years
    
    /s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen
    
    /s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, arse’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years
    
    /s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years
    
    /s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years
    
    /s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years
    
    /s/ Tom Ohesorge
    
    /s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years
    
    /s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years
    
    /s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years
    
    /s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years
    
    /s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years
    
    /s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years
    
    /s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, arse’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years
    
    /s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years
    
    /s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years
    
    /s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
    
    /s/ George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years
    
    /s/ Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years
    
    /s/ Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years
    
    and these guys..
    
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/in-letter-to-un-scientists-say-there-is-no-climate-emergency_3093580.html
    
    Look them up, you may learn something.
    
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    September 29, 2019 6:18pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    But I am smart enough to know not to debate with morons…
    
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    September 29, 2019 7:40pm
Cobolt24

The number of new homes completed in Auckland over the three months to July was up 27% on a year earlier and may rise another 27% over the next two years | Interest.
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https://www.interest.co.nz/property/101889/number-new-homes-completed-auckland-over-three-months-july-was-27-year-earlier-and
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September 29, 2019 11:40am
- kiwiracer
  
  These subdivisions would have been in planning well over 2 years ago, carryover from nationals time in power, it takes a long time to get a new subdivision happening.
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:36pm
Maggie Pie

Ever since WOBH changed it’s format, my partner has had difficulty accessing the site – too slow he reckons, so he doesn’t bother any more. The one thing he really misses was Cam’s ‘Cry Baby of the Week’ post, and wondered if KB might want to set up something similar?
He thought this story in yesterdays Herald about the 2 cry babies from Sacred Heart College would make a good start. As he said, in his day, if this had happened to a couple of Kings Boys, the Ola driver would have gotten snotted. No wonder they never won a game of rugby against Kings College. HTFU 🙂

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1177785230452764673
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September 29, 2019 11:43am
- Martin Williams
  
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  Your partner is quite something. Variously described as a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal, and a high society King’s Boy. What an enigma!
  
  Almost as if he weren’t real…
  
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  September 29, 2019 1:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    What year did you attend Sacred Heart, Marty?
    
    LOL!!
    
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    September 29, 2019 2:08pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      As what gender?
      
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      September 29, 2019 2:21pm
      - Martin Williams
        
        There’s only one gender at Sacred Heart College.
        
        Stand by for more on that though…
        
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        September 29, 2019 4:44pm
    - Tall Man
      
      And he’s still bending over for the big boys it seems.
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:14pm
      - Martin Williams
        
        You strike me as one who has suffered at the hands of bullies. Wanna talk about it?
        
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        September 29, 2019 4:45pm
      - stigie
        
        Purposely dropping the soap in the shower !~
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:04pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Thanks for the offer marty but I just don’t think labour could offer me a “safe space”………
        
        By the way… giver or getter? Asking for a friend because I have some 😉
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:16pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Kia ora Marty
    Not that it has anything necessarily to do with this particular mini-thread, but I am curious.
    In your noble life journey of continuous revolution towards virtuous lefty-hood perfection, did you ever lose anything that might have once resembled a sense of humour?
    (P.S. Don’t worry, I wonder the same about Psycho and Stephie too).
    Nga mihi
    
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    September 29, 2019 3:04pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      Oh. I thought I was doing a pretty good job at sense of humour.
      
      Tough crowd but Maggie gets it.
      
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      September 29, 2019 4:42pm
      - Tall Man
        
        For a tosser maybe.
        
        Dwell on this marty.
        
        “Kim Beazley Sr. famously took a strong stance against this madness.
        
        At a Labor state conference in 1970, he blasted his comrades for this movement toward insanity and chaos: “When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. But as I look about me now all I see are the dregs of the middle class. And what I want to know is when you middle class perverts are going to stop using the Labor Party as a spiritual spitoon.””
        
        Notice the “perverts” bit…. Not much has changed has it.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:20pm
      - Jack5
        
        Martin Williams says “I thought I was doing a pretty good job at sense of humour.”
        
        This is a stunning example of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
        
        https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740
        
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        September 29, 2019 8:56pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      I really loved the description of “A stalwart leftie” that i think it was Bob Jones who described on his blog as being “…a somewhat lonely, humorless, and unkempt individual normally living in a cold bedsit, prone to wearing the same grey cardigan smothered in wool-balls”
      
      As my partner sez, “If the cap fits..” LOL!!!
      
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      September 29, 2019 4:54pm
      - Martin Williams
        
        That seems an archaic description. The modern leftie is a teenage climate activist.
        
        Whereas the modern wing-nut is a toothless and grumpy old white male struggling to get his woman to do what he wants.
        
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        September 29, 2019 5:43pm
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        That sounds just like the middle-aged support people I saw last Friday lunchtime on Lambton Quay!
        The students, on the other hand looked way more colourful under their intersectionalised (often rainbow) banners. No doubt the drab greyness is yet to appear.
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:31pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        I’m pretty sure old BJ doesn’t even own a cell phone 🙂
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:56pm
      - Tall Man
        
        You forgot rich.
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:58pm
- pb
  
  BFD = big phucking deal
  
  Don’t you love the marketeers concept that big graphics, lots of gifs, queues is whats the dumb obese right-winger’s want.
  
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  September 29, 2019 4:07pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Now that’s not very nice.. I’m a big boy but “obese” is just hurtful… I’ll get numbnuts to send you a hurty face.
    
    Mind you, you do need a big hammer to drive a big nail.. something you little labour losers would know little about.
    
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    September 29, 2019 7:12pm
rightoverlabour

More climate fraud exposed. Mentions the “Greta”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQjOasRvGE
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September 29, 2019 11:45am
- stephieboy
  
  Tony Heller ( aka Steve Goddard) ? What’s going on?
  
  https://www.desmogblog.com/steven-goddard
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:44pm
- wreck1080
  
  What are your thoughts on the moon landing?
  
  Did it happen or not?
  
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  September 29, 2019 12:53pm
  - chaos
    
    And that has what to do with the video, nothing.
    
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    September 29, 2019 1:50pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Just a “steffy” level attempt at being a smartarse
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:15pm
    - wreck1080
      
      It has everything to do with the video.
      
      But, you wouldn’t get it.
      
      Notice, i didn’t get an answer either.
      
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      September 29, 2019 3:32pm
      - chaos
        
        nope, what people think of man landing on the moon has zero to do with a video. Discuss what is in the video instead of trying to use distraction. You likely didn’t get an answer because you asked a stupid question that has no connection to what is being discussed at all.
        
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        September 29, 2019 4:04pm
    - wreck1080
      
      Testing your critical thinking skills, clearly lacking. It is a pretty obvious link.
      
      Get back to me when you figure it out.
      
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      September 29, 2019 9:19pm
Suze Wainwright

Is Cindy genuinely fighting to get Metallica back in Aotearoa after their cancellation…?
Talk about letting down this nation’s young people if she isn’t…
She did once know how to give in to young children and their demands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMOLg2T_Dw
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September 29, 2019 11:59am
- stephieboy
  
  The real reason their tour has been cancelled,
  
  “Metallica co-founder James Hetfield enters rehab, band’s NZ tour cancelled”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/116172066/metallica-cofounder-james-hetfield-enters-rehab-bands-nz-tour-postponed
  
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  September 29, 2019 3:03pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Gosh! I had absolutely no idea…
    Surely Cindy could just offer up some star dust and kindness then?
    Please do keep your witty light-heartedness flowing to enlighten our darkness 😉
    
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    September 29, 2019 4:08pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      I hear Jordan Peterson is also having mental health and addiction issues.
      
      Perhaps he could just read one of his own books and all would be fixed.
      
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      September 29, 2019 5:40pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Perhaps if he hadn’t been dealing with his wife’s cancer surgery operations, his Dr wouldn’t have prescribed an addictive medication.
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/09/self-help-author-dr-jordan-peterson-checks-into-rehab-for-addiction-needs-medical-help.html
        
        or do you know something else about his medical conditions?
        
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        September 29, 2019 6:17pm
      - chaos
        
        What a vile comment to make about someone who got addicted on medication his doctor gave him to deal with a very sick wife. You’re disgusting
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:07pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, lame excuses after lame excuses!
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:09pm
      - Martin Williams
        
        Maggy. Jordan Peterson just needs to “get a sense of humour” on this.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:10pm
      - Swifty
        
        Here we see the real face of the left.
        
        Real classy Martin.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:31pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Fuck’s Sake, stephieboy.
        
        You think dealing with a loved one’s Terminal diagnosis is a lame excuse.
        
        Your life’s experience seems to be devoid of empathy.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:42pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Martin Williams
        
        Oddly enough I wasn’t laughing when I kissed my Dad goodbye for the last time.
        I s’pose you could think the blood gurgling out the side of his mouth was a bit funny, but somehow I could only think that that’s what he’d been drowning in in a few days’ time.
        
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        September 29, 2019 7:48pm
      - Martin Williams
        
        Maggy @ 7:48pm
        
        I am sorry about that situation. That might be me in a year or two but what gives you, or Suze, or Maggie the right to say what’s funny and what is not?
        
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        September 29, 2019 8:17pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Watch the disintegration of your leader. Withdrawal will soon start and “what’s in it for wynston” will look for a new toy to play with.
        
        Hope you got plenty from ardern because what you have is all you will get.
        
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        September 29, 2019 8:55pm
- Fletch
  
  Metallica have dumped their whole new album on YouTube for free.
  
  https://news.avclub.com/metallica-just-dumped-its-entire-new-album-onto-youtube-1798254445
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I&list=PLJvQXRgtxlumAHceNRk3cx3P7MZVUCdBl
  
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  September 29, 2019 3:45pm
RW Capitalist

https://www.national.org.nz/small_business
https://www.labour.org.nz/
Make your own comparison as to tone.
Nation…ask you
Labour tell you………lies!!!!
Note:
as to “dirty rivers” a report came out, that they are ignoring, stated that rivers and lakes got
C L E A N E R under National…reminder, it was Helen Clark who cancelled the Waiwhetu stream clean up by withdrawing Govt. funding and National that reinstated that funding. (just one example).
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September 29, 2019 2:20pm
chaos

Could planet 9 be a black hole, interesting read

* Astronomers have come up with a new theory explaining why they can’t find the hypothesised ‘Planet Nine’ – it’s not actually a planet, but a black hole.

There’s evidence of a ninth planet beyond the orbit of Neptune – scientists can see its gravitational effects on the orbits of dwarf planets like Pluto and other objects in the distant Kuiper Belt.*

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/09/scientists-think-there-might-be-a-black-hole-orbiting-the-sun.html
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September 29, 2019 2:46pm
Tall Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=pwvVephTIHU&app=desktop
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September 29, 2019 3:33pm
pb

No labour rape-scandals for a few days?

All Labour actions results in scandals. All their clam-ups are scandals. All their working-group delays are scandals. The Scandalabour.

The Machiavellian trolls won’t like being bound.
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September 29, 2019 3:51pm
- chaos
  
  Their former member on the Christchurch council had 5 more people come forward. Kinda shows why The abuser in Ardern’s office should be named, there will be more to come forward with him too
  
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  September 29, 2019 3:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  pb, rape scandals??
  
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  September 29, 2019 7:09pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Think you’re missing out?…. Giver or getter steffy girl?
    
    From what I see, most labour pervs would fuck a retarded donkey. That should include you really shouldn’t it.
    
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    September 29, 2019 8:09pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    No TV in your basement? Labour Party types have seen raping like you wouldn’t believe. It would have your own raincoat rustling.
    
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    September 29, 2019 10:21pm
chaos

Whoops

* Hackers uploaded a pornographic video which screened on Asics’ central Auckland promotional screens to shocked shoppers and pedestrians early on Sunday morning.

Staff at the Shortland St store confirmed the hacking but said they could not make any further comments about how the inappropriate content appeared on the large screen above the shop entrance.*

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12271975
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September 29, 2019 3:53pm
- Batman
  
  That is a heroic prank…
  
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  September 29, 2019 3:55pm
  - nasska
    
    We did something similar at our local pub not long after the first VHS recorders were available in NZ. One of the regulars put a porno disc in the machine one quiet weekday evening & covered the player with the curtains.
    
    Another regular came in, glanced at the TV & was told that it was a new station that had just begun broadcasting.
    
    He swallowed his jug, went home & told us later that he spent the rest of the evening trying to find Channel 69 on his home TV.
    
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    September 29, 2019 5:45pm
Jack5

State TV tonight continues to undermine the marking of the anniversary of Captain Cook’s first arrival in NZ.

Even had a Maori lady seeming to suggest that Cook deserved to be shot in Hawaii, but questioning whether that was enough payback for shooting Maori on his arrival at Gisborne.

Maori, isolated for centuries, were always going to have a painful collision with modernity.

It was Maori who killed Dutch sailors when Abel Tasman was the first European to reach New Zealand. In contrast, the Dutch got along peacefully with the locals in Tonga.

But of course, it’s not really about Cook. TVNZ’s interviewee lapsed into the evils of “colonisation” and this was safe from editing by TVNZ.
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September 29, 2019 6:51pm
- Martin Williams
  
  Crash your Zimmer Frame, did you?
  
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  September 29, 2019 7:08pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Stirring up tikanga Maori to bring back utu is not wise.
    
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    September 29, 2019 7:37pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Stewed your brains again by 7 pm. Shame it’s not legal yet but then neither is rape and that doesn’t seem to slow the labour perverts down.
    
    By the way, just because the crooked labour mps need a “zimmer frame” to stand straight doesn’t mean others do.
    
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    September 29, 2019 8:07pm
  - Jack5
    
    What do you mean, Martin?
    
    Is that just ad hominem, implying anyone who questions Maori separatists or the Leftist bias of State TV is senile?
    
    Please tell us, as a Leftist, your view of Cook.
    
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    September 29, 2019 8:47pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Everything is in place on our hill for Saturday’s arrival of Waka and Endeavour.
  Some rather official-looking Drones were being flown around Kaiti Hill and Beach today.
  ? security or TV?
  
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  September 29, 2019 8:51pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Here’s Jordan Peterson’s “lame excuses” (as stephieboy calls them) about his Wife’s kidney cancer and surgeries.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/cgjxmg/all_petersons_updates_on_tammys_condition_over/
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September 29, 2019 8:17pm
Jack5

Right-wing sites are saying that Greta Thunberg is also an Antifa activist?

If this is untrue, perhaps Martin Williams can draw on Leftist sources to explain.
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September 29, 2019 9:11pm
Rich Prick

I’m starting to get a bit bored with the mindlessness that our freshly hatched lefties bring. So I’m going to just put it out there. I am fabulously wealthy. Those fuckwits are useless.
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September 29, 2019 10:37pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  You single, straight, separated, divorced…..RP?
  
  Asking for a friend.
  
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  September 29, 2019 11:41pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Oi Maggie, get in line…. ( and you are suppsong RP is male – How incredibly sexist!)
    
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