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Hugh Pavletich

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… UNITED STATES …

… Are United States residential builders, due to competitive pressures, generally increasingly supplying more affordable housing ? …

Homebuilders Have Already Had Their Recession … Seeking Alpha

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4282452-homebuilders-already-recession

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2019/8/1723581_15650555640171_rId24.png

Amid the volatile backdrop of trade wars and geopolitical uncertainty, the US housing market may be an unlikely stabilizing force. As goes the housing sector, so goes the economy. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Access recent MacroBusiness Au Dallas News D R Horton posting …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/08/links-5-august-2019/#comment-3404056

D R HORTON – AMERICA’S LARGEST HOMEBUILDER

https://www.drhorton.com/
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August 8, 2019 8:03am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  Are Kiwi Tories afraid of properly functioning markets … and competition ?
  
  Why ?
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:25am
  - Lance
    
    Who are Kiwi Tories?
    Is that like Kiwi Republicans or some other such drivel?
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:32am
    - Tall Man
      
      Sorry Lance, big fingers…. downticked in error.
      
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      August 8, 2019 8:43am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    No; we’re simply sick to death of you.
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:33am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
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      Is John Key doing to the ANZ and banking, what he did to the National Party and politics ?
      
      ANZ NZ employees’ trust in senior leadership tested after Hisco scandal … Kate Macnamara … Stuff NZ
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/114825579/anz-nz-employees-trust-in-senior-leadership-tested-after-hisco-scandal?cid=app-iPad
      
      The demise of the NZ National Party … Performance Urban Planning
      
      http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html
      
      The NZ National Party really does need to take a good hard look at itself. It is all very sad for an old Tory like me !
      
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      August 8, 2019 9:12am
      - Happychappy
        
        Why would they worry about looking after you Hugh all you ever do is slag off National and former PM John Key, you are a viscous bitter old man that thinks you are better than everyone else.
        
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        August 8, 2019 9:39am
      - Swifty
        
        It rubs the lotion on it’s skin or it gets the hose again……
        
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        August 8, 2019 9:40am
      - igm
        
        You make make Sue Bradford appear right-wing . . . you are no Nat supporter.
        
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        August 8, 2019 9:51am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … NEW ZEALAND …
        
        … Kiss goodbye to the days of destructive housing inflation … and welcome to healthy housing deflation (check out Greater Christchurch in particular) … even if economists are ‘perplexed’ about what is going on …
        
        In its latest Monetary Policy Statement the Reserve Bank has expressed surprise that house price inflation has not picked up as it expected and it now forecasts very modest growth over the next few years … Interest Co NZ
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/101097/its-latest-monetary-policy-statement-reserve-bank-has-expressed-surprise-house-price
        
        The Reserve Bank has slashed its house price projections for the rest of this year and is clearly baffled as to why actual prices have turned out so much weaker than it expected. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 8, 2019 12:57pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        “…forecasts very modest growth…” so not deflating then
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:31pm
  - stoptheboats
    
    lets try for 100 downticks KBers ! we are at 52 so far, do I have 48 more punters fed up with HPs ravings?
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:40pm
- Nermal
  
  Do people leave the room or pretend to be busy when you come in?
  
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  August 8, 2019 2:47pm
slightlyrighty

So it appears that we have a government where one minor party, NZ First, is the arbiter of policy, even after it is announced, and the other minor party, the Greens, is now holding the Government to ransom over it’s confidence and supply agreements to get pet projects over the line.

I’m starting to think that the only thing the Government will deliver in the Year of Delivery could be a snap election.
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August 8, 2019 8:03am
- Scott
  
  Slightly righty – this government is a far left outfit that is doing its best to turn us into Venezuela. No oil and gas. Great, we now have to import coal. Because also we are not opening new coal mines on the West coast where there is coal.
  
  Struggles with our birth rate and consequently need high immigration? No worries, we’ll implement a radical abortion law which will enable abortions up until birth. That’ll fix our birth rate!?
  
  Problems with shortage of housing especially for those on low incomes? No worries, we’ll implement more regulations on land lords thereby driving them out of the market because the costs of compliance are so high.
  
  That’s what you get with left wing governance. No regard for the real world and the realities of life. Ideology trumps everything!
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:15am
  - Shut the hell up you Fascist!
    
    “Ideology trumps everything!”
    
    No.
    
    The reality is the Bell Curve and the Dunning-Kruger.
    
    Such people cannot think, especially into the future, and react to immediate gratification.
    
    Giving these people the vote was nuts; giving these people the vote without taxation was the death knoll of the West.
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:38am
    - Ian Hawthorn
      
      No representation without taxation?
      
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      August 8, 2019 8:50am
      - MickMac
        
        Ian, it is looking more attractive day by day.
        
        Only nett taxpayers and citizens should vote..
        Anyone on a benefit, Individual or corporate don’t.
        Incl WFF in that but NOT Pension.
        
        Ohh and Prisoners, not until the day after their original sentence is past.
        
        I’d go with that.
        
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        August 8, 2019 11:39am
      - Batman
        
        Frankly, we should consider pensioners not being able to vote. Far too prone to voting selfishly at that stage in life…
        
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        August 8, 2019 11:43am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        And no civil servants or beneficiaries of any sort either, tax spenders not tax payers.
        
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        August 8, 2019 12:28pm
  - SGA
    
    Ideology trumps everything!
    
    As you’re a Christian of the young-earth creationist variety, I’m surprised that you find that so objectionable 🙂 🙂 🙂
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:08am
    - Tall Man
      
      Who cares what he thinks, he’s not making the laws.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:06am
      - SGA
        
        My goodness, take that to its logical conclusion and KB would be a ghost town 🙂
        
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        August 8, 2019 10:38am
    - Scott
      
      SGA – guilty as charged I’m afraid 🙂
      
      However I would say in my defence that being a Christian actually works pretty well in navigating the paths of modern life. You have a faith to live by and sound values that if you live by them give you a nice family and a purpose in your life.
      
      So the Christian faith when applied to real-world problems actually comes up with real-world solutions. This is as opposed to socialist ideology which when applied to the real world always ends up looking like Venezuela.
      
      Whether you believe in a young earth creation or an old earth creation or an old earth evolution is probably not quite as immediately important. 🙂
      
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      August 8, 2019 11:26am
      - SGA
        
        That’s ok Scott. I’m sure you appreciate the irony inherent in a YEC complaining about other people being ideologically driven. 🙂
        
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        August 8, 2019 12:53pm
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Bro – if that is the case why 43% + 6% of the Sheeple are so happy and why Taxinda is riding high at 41%? So what they are doing must be right.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:14am
    - Tall Man
      
      Wake up and smell the roses 😉
      
      44% refused to answer…….
      
      41% tells you that 59% DON”T want her.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:05am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Fluff pieces on Taxinda and baby. Yes, they are definitely successfully using the fairy princess.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:20am
    - slightlyrighty
      
      Statistically, at least 49% of the population is below average intelligence.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:31am
      - alwyn
        
        You can’t actually claim that.
        Suppose you had a population of 50 people. One of them had an IQ of 10 (That would be the Labour voter in the group). The others all had IQs of 120.
        Then the average IQ would be
        ((49 * 120) + (1 * 10) )/ 50 which is 117.8.
        Only 1 of them, ie 2%, would be below average.
        
        Your statement appears to be true of the people who answered the last Colmar Bruson poll though.
        43% Labour plus 6% Green. That is definitely 49% of that population who have below average IQs.
        
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        August 8, 2019 1:57pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Well we can certainly confirm that 41% are.
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:37pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Nope. Misuse of average there.
        
        eg there are 10 people, 9 rate 100 on whatever scale you like and 1 rates 0. The average is 90, but only 10% of that population is below average.
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:38pm
- alloytoo
  
  I would applaud that delivery, if nothing else.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:16am
- oldgolfer
  
  And it can’t come soon enough.
  Next poll will be interesting.
  Day by day – almost to the point where we can’t keep up – we are shown incompetence and gross mismanagement – and worse.
  The public’s mood is changing.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:19am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    My internal sources have confirmed that the next TV3 poll will show Labour at 52% and Taxinda at a high popularity of 48% and Bridges at 4%
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:15am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      By “internal sources”, do you mean you’re pulling figures out of your a**e?
      
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      August 8, 2019 9:32am
      - Tall Man
        
        Isn’t that how they’re done? You learn something everyday…….
        
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        August 8, 2019 10:04am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Well, annoying though he is, SCS might just be stating painful facts :(.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:21am
      - Tall Man
        
        Downticked for pessimism….. 😉
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:36pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      I have been doing internal polling myself and can, given that Reid research will be doing public polling next week, reveal to suitably sycophantic/credulous media that Greens are on 4, NZF are on 2, Lab on 40 and Nats on 45
      
      (that’s how it’s done right?)
      
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      August 8, 2019 12:33pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I hope you washed your hands before posting that…..
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:36pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      Your borborygmi?
      
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      August 9, 2019 9:43am
- kowtow
  
  Yes, but so much depends on another party , unelected and largely unaccountable, but wielding so much power , the Media Party .
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:22am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Too true, but there is change there, too, although glacial.
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:38am
  - namron
    
    How about a change of Parliamentary system?
    Just watching JAG obfuscating and avoiding telling the truth in Question Time infuriates me.
    Then to think that no one voted for her to be there.
    It’s just the unfairness of the MMP system.
    Also with Whiney Peters, Shane Jones, Andrew Little + 7 more Cabinet Ministers – also unelected, makes me wonder about this system of democracy.
    Surely there is a fairer system where the people in the Govt are ALL actually elected by the people.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:44am
    - Steve Todd
      
      “Surely there is a fairer system where the people in the Govt are ALL actually elected by the people.”
      
      Yes, there is. It’s called STV, with no above-the-line party boxes.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:49am
    - MH
      
      where did I put my copy of the Gettysburg Address yes it was number 10….four square and Pak’n….no that’s not it……
      
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      August 8, 2019 4:02pm
- igm
  
  Surely this abomination of a government can be dissolved by the governor general. They are dishonest, incompetent, and will be the ruination of our economy if allowed to continue.
  Starting at the top, they are a joke, and essentially in power thanks to a ridiculous MMP system that should be repealed forthwith.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:22am
  - srylands
    
    No it can’t be dismissed by the Governor General.
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:49am
    - igm
      
      Whitlam was dumped for incompetence, why can’t this leeching mob?
      
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      August 8, 2019 9:21am
      - Inandout
        
        igm, different political system. We have the awful MMP.
        
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        August 8, 2019 9:54am
      - srylands
        
        No he was (controversially) dismissed by the Governor General because he refused to call an election despite the Senate blocking the Appropriation Bills that funded the general business of Government, such as public service salaries.
        
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        August 8, 2019 10:10am
  - namron
    
    Sorry igm, I hadn’t read your contribution.
    Makes 2 of us dissatisfied with the system!!
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:46am
  - Fletch
    
    Let’s face it – Labour and their partners are making it up as they go along and have no actual plan apart from implementing the projects that jibe with their ideologies – LGBT, climate change, liberal abortion and euthanasia, killing anything to do with drilling or roading, the spurious banning for the sake of ecology, legalizing ganja, hate speech laws, corralling educational institutions and schools under one umbrella for easier control (away from parents), gun control and confiscation.
    
    It’s all from the liberal wish list.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:06am
    - Tall Man
      
      Not on any “liberal” wish list I have seen.
      
      This is nothing more than rabid totalitarian.
      
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      August 8, 2019 2:33pm
- Simon
  
  Yep Labour pushed around so easily by the grifters and crackpots. But when junior staff are sexually attacked by a senior Labo insider Labour bring their full force of power and influence to bully the victims into silence.
  
  Ardern pushed around by little dweebs everywhere but behind closed door attack against sexual assault victims. Very sick pathology at work.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:23am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    I spent an hour last night looking at the one of the victims media accounts.
    Couple of things really had me completley dumbfounded.
    After all they had been through and very obvious victims are screaming out for Justice and help, but they are still loyal to the party.
    The Followers of one account were really interesting, many many journalists, many politicians.
    So along with the Labour Party, all the followers would have seen this tweet for help, isn’t it amazing that the system is such, the victims sit and suffer a death of a thousand cuts whilst justice is going to be served.
    Suicide is mentioned as a way out.
    I find it absolutely disgraceful the way this young Labour fiasco was handled, then to have another deviate appear and the Labour party treat it in the same manner is despicable.
    So a heap of press and politicians sit and view what is going on and just turn their backs on a solution.
    This government are sick and demented.
    Ardern and Peters are not followers of course.
    interestingly speaker and co leaders of the greens are.
    If this is the type of trash MMP serves up, then voters need to hang their heads in shame, it is the voters that give these morons power.
    Sicko’s the lot of them to sit back and watch this for close to 18 months.
    Supression of the truth is now normal and police are no longer involved until everything goes public.
    To the victims, I feel for you, but cannot comes to terms, you do not walk away from these sicko’s.
    I hope and pray your nightmare starts to see some justice in September, hang in there. Don’t give up.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:52am
    - MH
      
      an attack of the vapours is imminent.
      get thee to a nunney but check with a licensed Accoucheur first.
      
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      August 8, 2019 5:05pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  a snap election.
  
  One that breaks them.
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  August 8, 2019 8:31am
- hullkiwi
  
  Funny, that is what Mrs HK and I were saying on Tuesday with the brewing storm clouds over the CoL.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:31am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I’ve said all along I doubted Peters would last a full term. He’s been a Minister three times before, has has never lasted the full three years. Jim Bolger sacked him, Jenny Shipley sacked him, and Helen Clark stood him down.
  
  I believe he will crash the coalition, and force an election. Then he’ll get on his high horse about how bad Labour and the Greens are, to try and win back enough votes to survive.
  
  The problem for Peters though is that we’ve seen it all before, and as John Key famously quipped about Russel Norman visiting the Dotcom mansion, “His high horse has gone lame!”.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:45am
  - Tarquin North
    
    I hope you’re right Tony, I don’t think the country can take much more of these idiots.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:45am
  - Wired-one
    
    Ardern is too weak to make the decision to rid herself of Winston.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:18am
    - tf78
      
      Wired-one; Or to stand down and move away from the trough.
      
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      August 8, 2019 11:33am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Crash the coalition – why would he do that? Far do risky. He’s in a comfortable place right now.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:32am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      ‘far too’, sorry.
      
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      August 8, 2019 11:21am
      - MH
        
        it’s OK . It wasn’t a smelly one.
        
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        August 8, 2019 4:06pm
  - MH
    
    The iwi are obviously suffering from macronesia.
    
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    August 8, 2019 5:00pm
- calendar girl
  
  Slightly at 8:03am, I don’t think the COL will call a snap election. As long as there are no serious Party splits in its coalition (e.g . Peters going feral and beginning to court the blue side), they will cling to their power and the rewards that it brings – far beyond what most of them could earn in a real job.)
  
  Far more likely, in my view, is that the Prime Minister will resign (when do a PM’s retirement baubles cut in in earnest?). She is operating under so much pressure and so far outside her sphere of personal competency that she is likely to grab the first half-decent justification for moving on to greater opportunities.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:57am
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    Well, they have to time the election with the wedding, you know, for feelz!
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:00am
  - calendar girl
    
    But TS is correct at 8:45am . Peters himself could crash the COL and force a General Election.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:06am
    - Sacha
      
      I bet the old fella is well aware of his alternatives.
      Just think – it the PM resigned, he could have a year as PM, and if he did I’m not at all sure that he wouldn’t do a good job.
      Hahahaha . . . . . . . . . . . . .
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:06am
  - alwyn
    
    “when do a PM’s retirement baubles cut in in earnest?”
    Two years I believe. That will be in late October this year so we will have about 2.5 months to go.
    $51+k per annum annuity. Free personal car which is replaced every 60,000 km. Free use of Crown Limo’s. etc etc etc.
    
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    August 8, 2019 2:10pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      We should start a go-fund-me to hasten her retirement. If we could stump up $2-3million as a fuck-off and don’t come back gift she would surely resign, and that would be cheap at the price compared to the damage she’s doing.
      
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      August 8, 2019 3:40pm
- niggly
  
  What would be the pros and cons of Labour simply joining up with National to form a govt and get rid of these arrogant tail wagging dog Green/NZF pests?
  
  I suppose the cons are two parties much of a muchness (and less innovation). Plus the militant left-wing of Labour not being happy (bwahahaha)!
  
  But I supposes the pros are no stupid extremest “policies” (O&G ban, banning new 4 lane highways in favor of cycleways etc)?
  
  In some respects pity that National and Labour didn’t consider it at the 2017 election (as at the very least it would have tempered NZF/Green demands) as both major parties had an alternative option.
  
  (Imagine if that happened, Bill English would still have been PM and his evidence-based approach to policy and fixing underlying problems could have been advanced … and inexperienced Jacinda as Deputy PM could have grown into the job under a decent mentor … oh well not to be … and Labour were just too desperate anyway by selling out to WinstonFirst’s demands and baubles)!
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:48am
  - Tall Man
    
    Downticked for mentioning her who should not be spoken of in polite adult conversation……
    
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    August 8, 2019 2:31pm
    - niggly
      
      Was just offering some “what if” scenarios that could be better than this COL wrecking the social cohesion (Greenies v rural), the countryside (trees replacing farms for carbon credits) and the economy!
      
      Mind you watching the COL melting down seems to be a satisfactory outcome all round!
      
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      August 8, 2019 4:20pm
      - Tall Man
        
        There are not enough courageous members in the coalition to do as you suggested.
        
        Or smart enough….
        
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        August 8, 2019 6:09pm
- John Warren
  
  This is what is known as the “tyranny of the minority.” Apparently it’s better than the tyranny of the majority.
  
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  August 8, 2019 11:26am
secondcumming

Is *Chinese funny money* drying up in the NZ market….much like it has on the west coast of US and Canada?

https://twitter.com/radionz/status/1158551984242212867
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August 8, 2019 8:08am
- Simon
  
  Clowns, dirty money is laundered through property, not the bloody casinos. Serious money that is.
  
  Lawyer trust accounts would launder more money than any NZ casino.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:29am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Macau is China’s las-vegas and has thrived principally due to money laundering – aiding Chinese to get money out of PRC
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:23am
Yvette

Ihumātao
Pita Turei, iwi advocate, must know the land well, the location of archaeological middens and sacred burial caves, and also know where the protesters are, and says –

” … SOUL has “based its campaign on misinformation.”
“The misinformation that they’re saving the stonefields – the council already owns them. Misinformation that this land is so tapu no house can be on it – they’re camping on it. They’ve had three rock concerts on it. It’s not making sense.
“Also, it’s the wheat fields. They’re trying to say it’s a burial ground – we didn’t grow food to sell to the people in Auckland on burial grounds. We’ve never been that kind of people.”

Pita Turei also says … “People out in Ihumātao were surprised that something was happening, and they obviously didn’t notice the court case and all the other actions that were taking place. They suddenly found out, they felt they hadn’t been consulted and so they got angry and occupied it.”

He said he would like the decision-making at Ihumātao to be left to the village involved.
“Can everyone go home, please, and let that village sort out what that village wants to do?
“Just because one person at the table has 20,000 Facebook friends and says, ‘I’m not negotiable’ – that’s not a pathway to a solution.”
– https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/ihum-tao-protest-movement-has-based-its-campaign-misinformation-iwi-advocate
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August 8, 2019 8:08am
- G152
  
  Evidently the koha wasn’t bountiful enough for the outsiders who usurped the residents rights
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:16am
- Straight arrow
  
  Silly and untrue comments I have seen on twitter last day:
  Stonefields is a World Heritage Site.
  
  The clincher is an Auckland Councillor (Efeso Collins) complaining he cannot use support staff (Note that he is not allowed to use Council resources for political reasons or campaigning, especially in 3 months before election):
  
  “Cr Cathy Casey and I had a press statement ready to go this morning re #protectihumatao and told by support staff to do it ourselves. Jeepers thanks a lot for nothing @AklCouncil so can u remind me what the purpose of Councillor support advisors is.
  “Wait. It gets better. When Cr Casey asked for media contact list she normally uses, it was declined. We’ve just been going thru our ph’s on train/bus now to sort it. This morning insanity wins @AklCouncil.”
  
  I would of thought “democracy wins”.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:57am
- Yvette
  
  If Tainui purchase the land Fletchers currently legally owns at Ihumātao – a possibility mentioned on MagicTalk – Fletchers should insist on a sunset clause (that the sun never sets) similar to the Ngai Tahu Settlement clause that “tops-up” Ngai Tahu should any subsequent settlement exceed proportionality to their agreement with the Crown.
  
  The Fletchers clause should be that, if sold, the land never be built on as they have proposed, unless Fletchers are compensated to a value reflecting lost revenue in their being prevented from building homes on these non-sacred ex-wheat fields.
  
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  August 8, 2019 11:14am
kowtow

Decriminalisation by stealth.

If the extreme left Greens see it as a win , then it can’t be good.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/07-08-2019/the-most-significant-drug-reform-in-40-years-is-about-to-become-law/
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August 8, 2019 8:11am
- stephieboy
  
  k0wtow,” extreme left greens” ??
  
  Now joking aside..!
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:47am
Happychappy

DHB’s cut Mental Health funding by “$55 Million” the Union claim.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/114809938/dhbs-cut-mental-health-funding-by-55m-health-spending-falling-overall–union
ASMS Executive Ian Powell said it was “no longer” credible for David Clark to continue blaming National’s nine years of under funding for the DHB’s plight, while not” rectifying the problem” he said.
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August 8, 2019 8:11am
- Tall Man
  
  “One lie to fool them… a lot more to rule them”
  
  When ardern sets the trend for dishonesty, the rest happily join in.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:30am
  - Tall Man
    
    Ha ha… Thanks downtickers… you have made my day. No argument just a grumpy downtick… proves my point 😉
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:19pm
- alloytoo
  
  Just the headline of a Union criticizing a Labour government is interesting in and of itself.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:02am
mikenmildagain

Happy Hppiness Happens Day!
It is also International Cat Day, so I suggest the thing to do to improve your happiness today is spend some good-quality time with a cat.
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August 8, 2019 8:15am
- White Anglo Saxon Protestant
  
  The only thing a cat is good for, is half a pair of slippers.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    Or as Winston Churchill noted ,
    
    “The cat does more for the war effort than you do. He acts as a hot-water bottle and saves fuel and power.”
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:23am
    - Jack5
      
      Stephie, was your source the Guardian, from the article which noted this about the cat Churchill liked (he was a dog lover mainly):
      
      ….Nelson, the Downing Street cat, successor to Chamberlain’s cat which was renamed “the Munich Mouser”.
      
      Another animal story from the same article – about a rescued pig that British sailors named Tirpitz:
      
      On May 14 1915 the pig was spotted swimming frantically and was rescued by sailors from HMS Glasgow, one of the ships which had blown up his previous home, the German cruiser Dresden. He became the ship’s mascot, until he was retired to the Whale Island gunnery school in Portsmouth harbour – but that was not the end of the story. He lived at the school for some time until he was auctioned for charity – as pork. He raised £1,785 for the Red Cross, but his head smiles down on the exhibition with a surprisingly benevolent expression.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:21am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Is that you, Gareth?
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:27am
- SGA
  
  Nothing like good-quality time with a little ….
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:59am
Biscuit

Happychappy, your second para only needs to contain Words 6 through 15.
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August 8, 2019 8:17am
oldpark

A moment of truth will arrive in NZs Parliament today. The question will be who will the National Party support on Labours’ Abortion bill amendment, or the Peters’Party threatened referenda on the matter.
History shows that Peters selected the also ran Labour Party against the wishes of the majority National Party numbers in 2017.
Now will we see the Nats support Peters Referenda on the matter, or the inept inane waste of space Labour/Green Party and Angry Andy Littles’ attempted crusade to lower NZs birth rate, Said to be the one of the lowest in the World,in favour of immigration.Figure that.
Perhaps after all the rhetoric and finger pointing by the Nats getting shortchanged by Peters ,after the 2017 election results. Today we will see who has been swimming naked,in National Party in Parliament,when Angry Andy Little attempts to out manoeuver the Peters Party.
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August 8, 2019 8:21am
- hullkiwi
  
  Peter’s and his party need to be left isolated. As a conscience matter, the Nats can make a choice, but it must not be to make Peter’s look as though he wealds the power!
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:37am
  - Prince
    
    Take the high ground. Abstain and tell NZ you refuse to play this silly game of petty point-scoring and political manoeuvring between Govt coalition partners while the NZ economy burns unnoticed.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:29am
  - MickMac
    
    hullkiwi
    Bollocks.
    They must vote for the best interests of the child!
    
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    August 8, 2019 11:48am
    - Batman
      
      In your opinion.
      
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      August 8, 2019 11:57am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It’s not a party vote oldpark. Today’s vote will be a conscience one.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:46am
  - oldpark
    
    Do you mean a “Conscience” vote that will determine who gets to fix a law that dosn’t need fixing. Surely the NZ public can make that call by way of referenda. Especially most of NZs so called “Conscience” politicians have been selected ,not elected. What makes that lot any better than the NZ Public,making such a far reaching decision on such an important .
    
    After all check out some of the decisions that have been made unilaterally in NZ by the present inept inane clowns in Parliament.Their track record is a complete abuse of the word “Democracy”.Most of that lot would not know what a “Conscience” was if it smacked them head on.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:20am
Rich Prick

I think we’ve all concluded that Cindy is a vacuous waste of space only capable of doing dehydrated cicada photos. Let’s ignore the bint and get on with running the economy. Small hint, the Government doesn’t do it, we do.
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August 8, 2019 8:25am
- fernglas
  
  “Bint”? Arabic finally finds its place on Kiwiblog!!
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:30am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Bint is a great word. Most memorably used as:
    
    “I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!”
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:44am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I’m currently in an Islamic shithole.
    
    Women are treated like shit, I saw a flogging today in this Islamic shithole, it’s disgusting.
    
    #metoo, where the fuck are you?
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:26am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      But why would you go to Mt Roskill in the first place?
      
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      August 8, 2019 9:34am
      - Swifty
        
        Heh
        
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        August 8, 2019 9:50am
      - stephieboy
        
        MaggiePie , as the suburb next door to mine ( Mt Eden) I often pass-through it.
        
        A sure bet you never have!
        
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        August 8, 2019 9:51am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        True dat 🙂
        
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        August 8, 2019 11:12am
      - lilman
        
        Maggie love your thought process.
        
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        August 8, 2019 11:37am
    - Swifty
      
      Which one – there are so many.
      
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      August 8, 2019 9:34am
      - Jack5
        
        ?Is there a bint in the Stephieboy posting syndicate?
        
        If one of the Stephies is, as I suspect, female, at times we might think or her as a a bold bint or a brazen bint. This is not to suggest she’s a bint on the side, of course.
        
        Etymology: Arabic for girl or daughter. Adopted by British soldiers from time of Anglo-Egyptian war in 1882, and probably brought to New Zealand by our soldiers who fought in Sinai and Palestine (as part of the Anzac mounted division) in World War 1, and in North Africa and Syria in World War 2.
        
        While we’re discussing Muslim females, outside the Telegraph pay wall is an article about shoplifters using Muslim women’s dress – abayas and hijabs- for shoplifting raids.
        
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/07/two-women-accused-using-muslim-dress-shoplifting-spree/
        
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        August 8, 2019 10:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      RichPrick , which one if we are to believe you?
      
      Appears another all made up post by yourself!
      
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      August 8, 2019 9:49am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Morocco, Tétouan to be precise. Drove down from that funny little part of Spain trapped in Africa. As an Islamic fanboy, have you spent any time in an Islamic shithole? Do try it, and if you remain committed to that fucked up ideaology we might think you’re wrong, but will respect you for getting to know it properly.
        
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        August 9, 2019 1:05am
sooty

Helen Clark has bee sticking her sticky beak in again. This time she even got the map upside down!
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August 8, 2019 8:29am
- coge
  
  What is that all about? I don’t get it at all.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:42am
  - niggly
    
    MSM are back in “Helenmania” mode promoting her because she superimposed an outline of NZ on Europe and all of a sudden the MSM have made it a thing!
    
    (Nevermind its been done before by the defence force outlining NZ’s search and rescue area over an map of Europe … so Helen wasn’t the first)!
    
    https://imgur.com/sQduOZH
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:26am
hullkiwi

Oh dear, we are in a political silly season where facts and honesty fly out the window….

First we get Clarkula with a 1919 map of NZ superimposed on a map of the Mediterranean showing the relative size of NZ to Italy, Spain and France….to show what. NZ is not really that small. So, what? Reality, the land mass of the islands comprising NZ is smaller than the land mass of the islands comprising the UK and Ireland and the population of NZ is less than that of the Republic of Ireland and we don’t have a trading bloc of 800mill just to our east.

Then we get another stupid piece from Watercare in Auckland about conserving water. For those that haven’t had the benefit of touring the dams or don’t think it would all be very credible. However, it isn’t and when they roll out Goff to tell us to conserve water you need to smell a political rat, when:
1. Less than 1km from Goofy’s office I can show him a number of building sites where workers spray down the wheels of vehicles leaving the site, the water settles and the top water flows into the city’s storm water;
2. They point to the Hunua dams , mid July (3 weeks ago) the dams were 40% full, now they 66% full, 26% in 3 weeks! We are told by a PR person that normally the dams are 90% full at this time of year – what she didn’t say was the dams are never kept at 100% full – to avoid potential storm flooding. That the Waitakere dams are near full. Instead we are fed lines about there is no longer a normal annual rainfall and this is all climate change. They then go on to try and tell us they are expecting it to be dry from now on & to expect a dry summer. On what basis?

To all this, there is but one response, b******t!

Indeed, the past three years have been wetter than average!

Reality, it is politics.
The mayor and Auckland Council have declared a climate emergency, a part full dam is a convenient prop for the story. So when the mayor is re-elected expect the following:
1. Price increases for Auckland water;
2. Watercare telling us they need another dam; and
3. More climate change propaganda and how Auckland needs to conserve water.

How about Watercare fixing all the leaks first!
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August 8, 2019 8:30am
- Ruahine
  
  Hullkiwi. I read the RNZ version of the story the one with the pictures of the two nice looking people and then went onto read the misinformation concerning the amount of rainfall Auckland gets on a yearly basis. There is a weather station in Howick which as many of you know is relatively close to the Hunua Ranges where the largest dams for Aucklands water supply are situated. It is privately run and is a mine of information. Checkout the last two years rainfall and also compare this years rainfall so far compared to other recent years.
  https://howickweather.co.nz/. Click on the History box.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:16am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    That’s interesting. We get a shit load more rain in El-Nino years (2011, 2016-17), and rainfall this year is only 4th lowest in last 10 years and pretty close to median. Hardly drought conditions.
    
    Building sites are now requited to have stringent dust management – so have to keep dirt wet.
    
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    August 8, 2019 3:52pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      UN, exactly. Given my desk looks out at a building site and there is a guy spraying the stone (no more than 500m from Goofy’s office). Then there are the rain clouds coming in from the south.
      
      Finally, those rain stats prove the point. Watercare are being used by the mayor’s office to feed the narrative of climate emergency. So Aucklanders, bend over and be prepared to pay.
      
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      August 8, 2019 4:43pm
- stephieboy
  
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  Hullkiwi, yet another snooze button alert.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:28am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Stephie (or ztev in drag) answer my questions to you from Tuesday…
    
    Given you haven’t, we can see you for what you are, a troll who throws squirrels.
    
    By the way, I doubt you even know where Mt Roskill is, let alone know your way around Mt Roskill.
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:02pm
- Lance
  
  Most of the rest of NZ are probably not aware Aucklanders have a monthly water bill rivaling the power bill.
  While you might snigger at this, guess whats coming your way soon? Notice how the govt is setting up a national water quality oversight…
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:03pm
  - MH
    
    Louise Wallace admitted on TV 3 t’other day her monthly pwr boill waz $800, Wot is she growing in the blacement ?
    
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    August 8, 2019 3:09pm
RW Capitalist

So…the falling dollar is good thing huh?
I’m going to have to cancel 2 quotes, at least, because the falling dollar has caused the price if freight and air freight to rise
I purchase in US Dollars, so the price of everything has gone up.
As will be the case for all things not made in NZ.
Even things made here will be impacted by:
Imported technology (like mine)
Oil and oil products
Clothes
etcetc
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August 8, 2019 8:41am
- Poppa
  
  We are heading into very stormy waters right now which the Reserve Bank can see as well, hence the big rate cut.
  
  The problem is that if I were a borrower I would wait knowing full well that rates are going down more soon. This won’t have much effect if any
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:57am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    We are in very stormy waters right now which the Reserve Bank can see as well, hence the big rate cut.
    There, fixed it.
    The economy has been slowing for months.
    This CoL are just looking for someone else to blame.
    Consider:
    If it is “international conditions”, why are they not doing something to mitigate that?
    Why are they building rail vanity projects, instead of much needed, cheaper and more (and quicker) valuable R O A D S.
    Using ALL our natural resources to generate electricity while bring these “renewables” on line.
    Water storage for all major cities, to account for population growth, instead of continually restricting use.
    Use the farmers initiatives to fence and tree line all waterways.
    etcetcetc
    If Govt. was the answer, it most certainly a stupid question.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:32am
- stephieboy
  
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  RW Capitalist, so its a case of out with the beggar bowl?
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:29am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    RW Capitalist, so its a case of out with the beggar bowl?
    no
    ………….. so its a case of out with the CoL!!!!
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:47am
- KevO'Brien
  
  With the Yuan dropping relative to the USD I was expecting my purchase costs to fall. With Robbo-RBNZ antics yesterday I’m probably back even again.
  Robbo in Parliament yesterday thought it hilarious that NZ interest rates were now on par with Aus. Also they had managed to get reported unemployment down impossibly low by ignoring the large increase of WINZ supporteds.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

Once the breadbasket of southern Africa

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/million-zimbabweans-brink-starvation-190807142944375.html
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August 8, 2019 8:43am
- The King
  
  [laughs in Rhodesian]
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:48am
- Tall Man
  
  Now just a “basket”.
  
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  August 8, 2019 8:49am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Case
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:35am
- stephieboy
  
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  MW, an explanation is given,
  
  “WFP says 2.3 million people in rural Zimbabwe face starvation because of an El-Nino induced drought and economic shocks.”
  
  Omitted. Why?
  
  Back to the good old days of UDI?
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:33am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “WFP says 2.3 million people in rural Zimbabwe face starvation because of an El-Nino induced drought and economic shocks.”
    
    I see. So it’s not the fault of rural Zimbabwee in any way.
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    August 8, 2019 9:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Do you think there have never been El-Nino weather events before, stephieboy?
    
    Omitted. Why?
    
    I realise you have a comprehension problem..
    
    I put a link to the Al- Jazeera article.
    I figure those people who are interested can read the article themselves and discover all within.
    
    It’s not my intention to provide a summary/precis/clipped account of every article, I link to.
    
    If you would like me to provide this service, I suggest you negotiate a deal with my business manager and lawyers.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:03am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Stephie will get his people to call your people. 🙂
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:11am
      - Tall Man
        
        Umm Maggie, in the spirit of the idiot (your choice which one)…….. steffy doesn’t know “people”.
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:26pm
    - Jack5
      
      El-Nino in Stephiestan? They get rain only once every three years.
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:12am
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, I believe it behoves you to provide the fuller background that sheds light on a wider picture and explanation.
      
      Not just a bald assertion,” once the breadbasket of southern Africa”
      
      This can lead to ” misunderstandings” like ,[laughs in Rhodesian]
      
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      August 8, 2019 10:36am
      - MickMac
        
        Rubbish Stephie.
        
        You don’t!
        
        You just troll and do drive by questions…..
        
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        August 8, 2019 11:54am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        MW, I believe it behoves you to provide the fuller background
        
        Just like you believe it behoves me to reveal the size of my underwear to you?
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/general_debate_31_march_2018.html#comment-2175550
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:03pm
      - MH
        
        Louise Wallace admitted on TV 3 t’other day her monthly pwr boill waz $800, Wot is she growing in the blacement ?
        
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        August 8, 2019 3:12pm
      - MH
        
        I’m becoming a Behoover Witness and I will not tolerate MW’s bloomers being waved about in such a cava-leering fashion. Stephie has been trialled and found wanting.
        
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        August 8, 2019 3:19pm
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    South Africa will be next, regardless of what the climate does, if you run a country on racial profiles, it will fall apart.
    I have a friend, a farmer a few kms up the road, self made started out with nothing, $20 million would buy his two eneterprises here today.
    Many years ago, he went on holiday to Zimbabwe, fell in love with it and bought land there. Ended up with 300 families being supported on this land.
    Lost it all without one cent compensation.
    For many years he kept contact with many of the families and continued to support them.
    He successfully lived through droughts and flooding rains as he has here, but he couldn’t put on a black face as required to keep 300 families out of poverty.
    Some would say this was a white man taking advantage, I say he made a life for all those families.
    Not many have kept supporting families long after their land was confiscated.
    This was all about opportunity for locals, not money for him, believe me.
    How much can an 88 year old batchelor that wears a 50 year old darned Esso jumper spend!!!!!!!! He cracks me up with his op shop bargains.
    
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    August 8, 2019 3:36pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    There is no el-nino this year, or last year. Zimbabwe’s problem is bad government, not climate.
    
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    August 8, 2019 4:02pm
Brian McDonald

From Parliament a new law that recognizes the war against drugs is futile. For some time Judges have been sentencing addicts involved in drug smuggling to sentences which differentiate between the lever pullers and the levers, this is another step from the law makers.

https://www.drugfoundation.org.nz/news-media-and-events/law-change-positive-step-toward-treating-drug-use-as-health-issue/?fbclid=IwAR0Ou8q861f1Z0ToBM0B0zK8_aeiz99Ra0PUTOjwLehLHN6Fe8zRL1K0FXw
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August 8, 2019 8:48am
- Gravyman2
  
  And the extra workforce and resource numbers are…….?
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:23am
  - Brian McDonald
    
    Out of the over burgeoned Corrections Budget as the prison muster continues to fall. Better value spending. That’s only a guess by the way.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:19am
- kowtow
  
  Yep that war on drugs is pointless and a waste of police resources.
  
  Let the gangs destroy the country !
  
  ‘Ten people arrested, luxury cars seized in massive drug bust’
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12256512&ref=clavis
  
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  August 8, 2019 10:47am
JibberJabber

So this is something similar to what we would have seen if the media were allowed into the Greens Conference,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQ4vqCWYTw

Seriously, this is NOT a parody.
Point of Personal Privilege! The really hilarious shit starts @ 1.50
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August 8, 2019 8:51am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Christ. TV 1 play school this morning, TDS is strong. 4 of them telling us how bad Trump is, but could not give even one example. Circle jerk
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August 8, 2019 8:53am
Maggie Pie

As my partner sez, “A picture is worth a thousand words”
Tane Faatafa, 19, has been jailed for 26 months (less time served), for attacking and robbing a Student Nurse in Christchurch as she walked to her car after finishing night-shift at the hospital. Faatafa had been due to stand trial, but after talks with ‘Crown Prosecutor Willy Tafts’, he agreed to plead guilty to ‘reduced charges’. He admitted to the charge of robbery and unlawful possession of a ‘filleting-knife’.
What is it with this Christchurch judiciary?

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1158590683579424768
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August 8, 2019 8:54am
- igm
  
  Seems they are following directives of Little, Arden, and Davis.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:16am
  - stephieboy
    
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    igm, as if skewed sentencing never happened under the previous coalition!
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:34am
    - igm
      
      As previously stated, I do not engage with weirdos.
      
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      August 8, 2019 11:34am
      - Tall Man
        
        A wise decision. steffy girl is like a couple of posters on here that gain their gratification by our reactions. Downtick and move on as you can’t argue with a moron.
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:18pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Pleading guilty saves a great deal of work for all. A Statement of Facts, which may have been agreed with the guilty party, is presented to the Court. The included sentencing recommendations are usually agreed before too. Everybody knows what’s going on.
  That avoids the prosecution having to present a substantial case and witnesses etc and all with the risk of not winning.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:38am
  - Tall Man
    
    I can’t get my head around the concept of getting a “not guilty” verdict for a guilty man can be seen as “winning”.
    
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    August 8, 2019 9:59am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I’m sorry KevO, but did you actually read the Stuff article about the facts of what took place? Knowing what the victim went through, (and is still traumatised by events of the night) I’d have to say it tends to make mockery of your assertions in this case.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:04am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Our law Courts are not courts of victims damages or retribution. The Legislature has determined the operations of Police and the Criminal Courts.
      
      I am not excusing or minimising the effects of crime on victims. Prosecutors are confronted by the realities of having to prove their cases to the required criminal high level of proof. That is often problematic. A deal is a certainty and may secure a term of imprisonment when a defended trial may not.
      
      I have been involved as a family interface in several of these plea bargaining episodes. The Police were able to trade certainty of outcome for the unknown possibility of even worse for the defendant. All parties knew jail was expected. The Prosecutor could recommend to the Court a term and that would likely be accepted. The decision would still be the Judges.
      Judges now give some relief for the defendant co-operating and I believe the outcomes may have been little different. The prior procedures did however speed up the work of Police and Court as issues were thrashed out semi-formally with senior Police and disputes about evidence were settled. That relieved Police from having all the extra work of proving their evidence item by item.
      Instead of the position of the defendant being simply “prove it” the mutual agreement on what was established and to be put before a Judge was determined. The defendant’s prior record was also considered at that stage.
      
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      August 8, 2019 11:25am
  - kowtow
    
    Makes life easy for the “justice” system.
    
    But very hard for the victim and the future victims these scum will next prey on.
    
    A safer New Zealand, yeah right.
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:37am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      It is a system and the Courts decide the outcomes. We don’t have lynch mob justice. The Police are not enthusiastic about defendants and if they encourage a plea situation it’s because it aids certainty of putting someone out of the public’s way. I make no suggestion that the Police are easy on any criminals. Prior charges follow all re-offending with increasing consequences.
      
      Victims can never be adequately compensated.
      
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      August 8, 2019 12:42pm
  - MickMac
    
    Kev
    Honestly you are a twat if you really believe that.
    What actually happened to the girl?????
    
    Really?
    Where are your brains?
    
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    August 8, 2019 11:57am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I prefer the law to the alternative.
      Being sorry for a victim doesn’t affect the outcome: the crime has still been committed and harm done.
      
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      August 8, 2019 12:46pm
Tall Man

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/08/i-m-just-doing-what-i-know-kiwi-hunter-defends-herself-against-death-threats.html

What a nasty bunch some people are……..
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August 8, 2019 8:57am
- secondcumming
  
  How come in all my years of deer and pig hunting, I’ve never come across anybody like *Sammi* staying in a Doc hut? 😎
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:28am
  - sooty
    
    You have been at the wrong hut!
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:34pm
lastmanstanding

I have seen the Child Abusers. They are the purveyors of the Climate Change Hoax.
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August 8, 2019 9:05am
- stephieboy
  
  “Climate Change Hoax.” ??
  
  The US President would disagree with you on that one!
  
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  August 8, 2019 10:38am
Maggie Pie

Well, i suppose if you receive an invitation for a slap-up dinner at Bellamy’s to hear an expert talk about ‘Kina bumholes’, who better to have than Clarke Gayford 🙂

https://twitter.com/avancenz/status/1159046993450192896
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August 8, 2019 9:13am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Speaking of that:
  Has he married her yet?
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:45am
- Tall Man
  
  Now do we “understand” why the media is full of shit.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:58am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There is nothing sophisticated about dining on wild kina
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/5208/eating-kina
  
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  August 8, 2019 10:19am
  - sooty
    
    Was he paid for speaking at parliament?
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:37pm
lastmanstanding

Ive just read the post on the Holocaust. No surprises. For the past 4 decades the Left who control the teaching institutions have deliberately not taught this and many other subjects.

The reason is they are Jew Haters. Why?

Because the Jews have been successful wherever they have lived.

The Jews have assimilated into many societies and gotten on with living and working rather than complaining and moaning that everyone else wont change to be like them.

This is reason for the low knowledge.
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- stephieboy
  
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  lastmanstanding,
  
  In your perpetual fantasy world!
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:39am
- alloytoo
  
  It is also my understanding that Jews do not indulge in evangelism.
  
  Imminently sensible in my opinion, but also another reason why the “Left” religion hates them.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:43am
  - stephieboy
    
    the “Left” religion hates them.???
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:39am
Yvette

Racism at Ihumātao
Several live videos were posted to protester Anikaaro Harawira-Havili’s Facebook page on Monday night. One shows her getting close to officers and insulting them, while they don’t react.

Towards the end she approaches one officer, who appears to be of south Asian descent, and suggests he leave the country.
“Another foreigner occupying our whenua in Aotearoa and then not even letting us on our own. F**k off back to your own country,” she said.

Harawira-Havili admitted to the abuse in a Facebook post on Wednesday morning.
“Truth. Yes, I abused the shit out of the officers that tried to Dawnraid us at Ihumātao. Paticularly the Senior Sergeant that knocked 3 Wahine over,” she wrote.
“Truth #2. I don’t apologize at all!”

While Little reviews “hate speech” laws, surely the new Race Relations Commissioner should make a statement about this issue, since Anikaaro Harawira-Havili has ensured herself that her racist comment is widely dispersed.

Or does hate speech and racism require a complaint to make it a reality?
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August 8, 2019 9:29am
- Swifty
  
  Non-whites cannot be racist.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:43am
- Tall Man
  
  Not sure but if it emanates from a lefty or maori it cannot be hate speech…..
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:55am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I have nothing but respect for the Police officers involved in that video. Their training has kicked in, and they showed commendable restraint in the face of cameras pointing at them, and screams of racist abuse.
  
  Best of all though, the mask of so-called “peaceful protesters” slipped a little, and we saw their true colours.
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:44pm
- MH
  
  There appears to be a lack of respect for the missing macrons. Without this bar over certain letters especially in the word Maori colonial oppression cannot be conveyed with any degree of forcefulness or sincerity and is being made light of. The bar in effect is symbolic of the institutionalised racism endemic in NZ by preventing the inferior lower case letter becoming a Capital letter deserving of compensation for all those years it was being held back and discriminated against.
  
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  August 8, 2019 3:39pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Sometimes you might need to retract a macron
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/114762618/new-zealand-geographic-board-retracts-ohakune-macron-after-iwi-complaint
    
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    August 8, 2019 4:01pm
    - MH
      
      The iwi are obviously suffering from macronesia.
      
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      August 8, 2019 4:57pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        It’s a catching condition..
        I can never remember where I put them.
        
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        August 8, 2019 5:08pm
Rich Prick

I’m currently in a North African Islamic country. OMG, you have to see how their women are treated here! I’ve heard it get worse south, but this Islamic part it bad. I’ve been offered two boys and a girl for €100. Sickening. Islam is disgusting.
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August 8, 2019 9:35am
- stephieboy
  
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  RichPrick, what Islamic country before we continue to be sucked in by your usual nonsense!
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:41am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Get your hand off it stephie before it falls off.
    
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    August 8, 2019 11:14am
  - rangitoto
    
    Sounds like stephie wants to plan his next vacation destination.
    
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    August 8, 2019 11:18am
- alloytoo
  
  While the West wallows in self guilt for colonial era slavery, it serves is to remember:
  
  Who sold these people down the river?
  Who took them down the river?
  Who ultimately ended the transatlantic slave trade?
  
  There is an irony of course, that many who are descended of slaves now enjoy freedoms and lifestyles far superior to that of those whose ancestors who were doing the selling.*
  
  *Snowflake alert, this is an observation, not an endorsement.
  
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  August 8, 2019 9:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    alloytoo, the facts are both Arabs and Europeans were actively engaged in the Trans Atlantic etc slave trade both as buyers and sellers!
    
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/transatlantic-slave-trade
    
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    August 8, 2019 10:43am
    - MickMac
      
      Stephie
      Whilst the west side of Africa’s slave trade stopped, it still is going on on the east side unabated.
      
      But then you already knew that….
      
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      August 8, 2019 12:01pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MickMac, wind the clock back and given your kind of profile I believe you would be an anti-anti abolitionist.
        
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        August 8, 2019 2:08pm
  - Kabull
    
    Not to forget that slavery is still rampant. Over 40 million people are in some form of slavery: https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-today/modern-slavery/
    
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    August 8, 2019 11:02am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  You should observe local customs, and at least haggle over the price.
  
  //
  
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  August 8, 2019 10:02am
- Poppa
  
  Keep your head down RP
  
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  August 8, 2019 10:03am
- DigNap15
  
  Offered – what for
  An hour
  For a week
  For ever (slaves)
  
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  August 8, 2019 11:13am
- Rich Prick
  
  Actually I’m not too sure what I was offered, but it didn’t seem too savoury and there was an underlying threat when I declined.
  
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  August 9, 2019 1:13am
Durden

You sure. The offer might be for kidnapped Christian slaves.
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August 8, 2019 10:02am
Sofia

Complainants explain why they cut ties with Labour over handling of bullying, sexual assault allegations – Tova O’Brien, Newshub

Seven people laid complaints about bullying, sexual harassment and sexual assault by a Labour staffer. The party’s insisting it did nothing wrong despite being forced to review its processes.

Newshub has been investigating this story for nearly a month. The list of complaints about the party process includes:
• a lack of communication
• the length of time to reply to complainants was “unacceptable”, with no response in some cases
• complainants weren’t shown transcripts of their interviews to check for accuracy before they went to the alleged perpetrator, outing their names to him

Nowhere, it seems in this news item, does it indicate the Police are in any way involved.
Why not?
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August 8, 2019 10:17am
- MickMac
  
  Jacinda didn’t call the Police or the parents for the sex assaults at the Labour Summer Camp…..
  
  Why should they now….
  
  It’s when outside people are involved that the Police get called.
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:02pm
Durden

Its interesting to note that social media warriors are actively targeting right wing tweeters and getting them de-platformed on Twitter. @kermysrevenge who leaked Labour’s camp molestation shenanigans was removed, came back again as @kermysback, which is also now suspended.

Another interesting tweeter @GeoffsAgHortHub has also been removed (says page does not exist). He was the one who wrote about a bunch of refugees being brought to some Auckland army barracks secretly. He is back though as @GeoffsNZViews

Looking at earlier conversations involving those two, it suggests that the Green activists have been busy.
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August 8, 2019 10:18am
srylands

Another guy’s life turned upside down by a crazy woman.

“Teen in court over accusing good Samaritan of indecent assault, stalking”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12256609

Lesson is if you see a woman next to a broken down car, keep on driving. Very sad but that is the effect that this maniac will have.
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August 8, 2019 10:18am
UrbanNeocolonialist

Environazis doing more damage with dumb policies example #3485: UK plastic bag plastic consumption increased since govt started changing 5p per bag for single use plastic bags and many supermarkets phased them out.

“There is no evidence of a dramatic decrease in the sale of bags for life. And the limited evidence available suggests the introduction of bags for life might have actually increased the overall amount of plastic being used.”

https://order-order.com/2019/08/07/governments-plastic-bag-spin-rubbished-fact-checkers/
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August 8, 2019 10:23am
Straight arrow

“The New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union is questioning the value of a $98,876 brand makeover at Porirua City Council.” [Taxpayers’ Union statement]
…of which the new avatar was one part.

Seven Sharp (misnomer) had a hit story (aimed at Taxpayers Union) last night by gleeful hosts and Porirua Mayor that the new avatar cost less than $1000, and certainly not $98,000.
Words escape me.
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August 8, 2019 10:23am
Jack5

It’s worth following the South China Morning Post reports of the crisis in Hong Kong. Today it’s report includes:

– the top Chinese official overseeing Hong Kong likening the protests to the “Colour Revolutions” in former Soviet Eastern Europe and the Caucuses in the early 2000’s.

– A columnist writes: “My guess is that Hong Kong police have been given unconditional support and carte blanche to suppress unrest and protests without the fear of subsequent punishment. That means more arrests and unrestricted application of non-lethal force.”

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3021877/protests-colour-revolution-threatening-hong-kong-abyss-top
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August 8, 2019 10:35am
- Jack5
  
  Where does National stand on the Hong Kong protests?
  
  What’s it going to do about Jian Yang? Can its “voice for the Chinese community” speak for folk with Hong Kong, Taiwan, or Singapore origins?
  
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  August 8, 2019 10:39am
  - MickMac
    
    Good Points Jack5
    
    It certainly complicates who to vote for.
    between Collins, Shipley and the Chinese Intelligence Agent, I think National look suspect.
    
    Then on top of it, there’s Soiman’s silence over our freedoms and his silence as Collins slashed into David Seymour when he did defend Kiwis against the Green Harridens.
    
    Not looking good for Soiman I’m afraid.
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:06pm
    - Tall Man
      
      But “great for ardern”…. Go on, give us a laugh and explain why she’s your choice.
      
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      August 8, 2019 2:07pm
- kowtow
  
  jack5
  
  Who’s the columnist making such wild guesses ?
  
  There’s an independent judiciary that would never allow that , not to mention the common law still applies and the cops there are held to high account , internally and externally .
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:37pm
wreck1080

A friend keeps posting rubbish on facebook about reducing ones carbon footprint…. her husband…. an airline pilot.

If one were to put their money where their mouth is….
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August 8, 2019 10:45am
- hullkiwi
  
  Is your friend giving up the discounted family air mile options then?
  
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  August 8, 2019 1:17pm
Fletch

Hollywood has a new film out next month in which liberals hunt “deplorables” for sport….

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/07/elites-kill-deplorables-in-new-horror-film-the-hunt/#
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August 8, 2019 10:49am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  But Liberals want guns removed! Complete fantasy World, which is where the left live
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:34pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Not the liberals my friend… totalitarian socialists.
    
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    August 8, 2019 2:05pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ahh. When the Govt has the guns, and the peasants submit. I got it.
      
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      August 8, 2019 5:30pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yep, have never understood “film stars” and celebrities who pontificate about the evils of gun crime and gun ownership and who then keenly appear in the latest violent block buster shoot-em -up movie.
    Can they not see the conflict of interest in that?
    No – all about fame and fortune – for them.
    
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    August 8, 2019 2:56pm
Swifty

Let’s play Stiffyboy bingo!!!

Which one of Stiffy’s stock replies will he use next?

‘Snooze button alert’
‘Seems all made up to me’
‘Who outside of your alt-right bubble actually cares?’
‘Now joking aside’
‘Omitted. Why?’
‘In your perpetual fantasy world!’

I see that most of them have been trotted out today already, so it’s going to be a tough call.

Place your bets!
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August 8, 2019 11:04am
- Garbageman
  
  LOL
  i will take 6 alt rights & a couple of “the facts are” for 500 Alex
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:03pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  HOUSE!
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:29pm
- Poppa
  
  Sshh…don’t wake him, he is having his afternoon nap
  
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  August 8, 2019 2:16pm
Fletch

OMG – these people are PATHETIC…. Communists who want to take over America but are so scared of clapping that they have to do “jazz hands”, and are “triggered” by people whispering…. They have “quiet rooms”, but don’t go in there with an “aggressive scent”… Do not use “gendered language” to address everyone. It’s triggering. FFS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1AXReZgFxw
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August 8, 2019 11:16am
- Batman
  
  Calm down Fletch. It’s just funny. They’re no harm to anyone but themselves!
  
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  August 8, 2019 11:29am
  - MickMac
    
    Batman, Rubbish.
    They vote as a block and the Media assist them.
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:07pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It would be funny if they were not so serious. These people are dangerous
    
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    August 8, 2019 12:37pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yeah, the snowflakes want to start a ‘revolution’ and they can’t even start a fucking lawnmower.
  That prick needs to be taken out behind the woodshed
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:36pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Does ‘taken out behind the woodshed’ refer to your fantasies of murder, or just rape?
    
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    August 8, 2019 1:28pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Neither Mike. Being snide again? Good boy, I would not expect less.
      Out behind the woodshed means thrashing the living shit out of someone who deserves it for being an arsehole.
      Your move sonny
      
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      August 8, 2019 3:48pm
Happychappy

It’s not looking like a good week for Labour and the Coalition with the sexual assault problems for Jacinda,Twyford and Transport with Julie Ann Genter and her demands are met or resignation and finally Winston throwing his toys out of the cot and saying Labour didn’t behave in good faith over the abortion bill.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/viv-beck-business-leader-puts-the-heat-on-phil-twyford-over-city-rail-link-compo/
Business Leader puts the heat on Twyford over no payout to small business caused through Rail network.
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August 8, 2019 11:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

The truth emerges:

Ex-Treasury Boss Makhlouf admits he ballsed up

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/114835940/former-treasury-boss-gabriel-makhlouf-admits-budget-leak-handling-could-have-been-better
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August 8, 2019 11:28am
- KevO'Brien
  
  In my view Makhlouf was an IT novice. He simply used the word “hack” in the common way:
  “someone’s got into our files without our wanting them to”. His staff may have left the doors open but he’s not using the technical term for that: careless galoots. Our Spymasters have more precise meanings of the verb to be hacked.
  Makhlouf is an economist, accountant or something of that ilk.
  
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  August 8, 2019 1:00pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Quite possibly bad advice from his IT people. Buck still stops with the CE though.
    
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    August 8, 2019 1:26pm
wreck1080

Why was this not in our media (at least i did not see it)…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7333105/Saudi-Arabias-King-Salman-invites-200-people-affected-Christchurch-shootings-Hajj.html

I guess when a king invites you , there are no airfares to pay.
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August 8, 2019 11:32am
- Straight arrow
  
  It has. 18 July 2019
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/394718/saudi-arabia-to-host-families-of-christchurch-mosque-shooting-victims-for-mecca-pilgrimage
  
  Also on Stuff.
  
  I don’t see an issue. After Chch quakes people around NZ offered holidays for residents which is basically same.
  
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  August 8, 2019 11:51am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  It was well covered last month
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12254307
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/395604/watch-christchurch-mosque-shooting-victim-says-mecca-trip-will-go-a-long-way
  
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  August 8, 2019 11:53am
lilman

Saw that Jack Tane is ready to date again on stuff.

Shit what a wanker,what poor bitch or bloke would end up with that limp fly swatter?

Really who give a shit.

I actually read 2 sentences before giving up.

If that were my son I would seriously talk to him, then I would probably change my name.
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August 8, 2019 11:44am
- Garbageman
  
  Well they do have to fill all of those columns with something, holding this shambolic govt to account comes well after our media’s obsession with each other, but let’s give the guy a break i think he spends an hour on our TVs these days that qualifies him for superstar status in NZ brain dead wannabee celebrity mags right up there with someone else we know that believes her celebrity status is sufficient to run a country, intellect common sense & truthfulness are obviously not high on that list
  
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  August 8, 2019 12:29pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I wonder if he’ll take down those posters of Jacinda taped on his bedroom ceiling? 🙂
  
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  August 8, 2019 1:06pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    surely he wouldn’t have taped anything over the mirrors.
    
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    August 8, 2019 4:06pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I very much doubt she’d have mirrors, like the pope she’d hate to look down on the unemployed….. (Old joke I know)…..
      
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      August 8, 2019 6:04pm
Ruahine

Wally has been found.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/396236/police-will-reduce-presence-at-ihumatao-protest-wally-haumaha
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August 8, 2019 1:00pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Why? Has he got a commitment from Pania?
  
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  August 8, 2019 1:24pm
  - Tall Man
    
    If he had would it be worth anything?
    
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    August 8, 2019 2:02pm
Straight arrow

I was looking for a book at Warehouse yesterday. Not on shelf, so had a conversation with staff member (white middle-aged guy) about choice, and he made a comment that USA was censoring what was available. I was surprised by this, and asked what about Whitcoulls withdrawing the Canadian Peter Jordanson’s book (although it was temporary).
The staff member asked if he was one of those racist Canadians who were giving a talking tour last year.
What do you say?
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August 8, 2019 2:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Dig some more with that staff guy and you will find TDS
  
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  August 8, 2019 3:51pm
herb1

Anyone have any genuine reason , other than fear and/ or laziness, for the Arderns absenteeism from Question Time.
Could the police , finally be on her tail for covering up an alleged rape by allegedly, one of her own staff?
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August 8, 2019 2:20pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Very rare for her to appear on a Thursday; but now any day. She’s heading for the hills again, dunno when. Tuvalu for a Pacific Islands Forum.
  757 Air Force 1 and a C130. What’s in the Hercules?
  
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  August 8, 2019 3:56pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    She and the chubby chap were actually at Brian Lochore’s funeral.
    I will excuse her on this occasion, although traditionally the PM and leader of the opposition don’t attend on Thursdays.
    
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    August 8, 2019 4:36pm
- tf78
  
  herb1 – it’s Thursday – she doesn’t do Thursdays. ( or very many other days for that matter).
  
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  August 8, 2019 4:36pm
- herb1
  
  Thanks for clarifying that.
  
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  August 8, 2019 4:58pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Cold day in Auckland; snow at Bethells Beach:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/114837242/cocaine-worth-3-million-discovered-on-west-aucklands-bethells-beach
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August 8, 2019 2:34pm
dave_c_

No recession – my arse
Just looking at the reserve bank blokes body language speaks volumes
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August 8, 2019 2:45pm
Happychappy

Fearful, intimidated and crying complainants tell Paula Bennett.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12256846
Something needs to be done about this Paula talked to Mallard he should be doing something about, he was quick to announce there was a rapist in the house over his inquiry and had plenty to say on behalf of JLR but found wanting when it concerns the Labour Party.
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August 8, 2019 3:56pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like Jacinda Ardern is in DENIAL.
  
  Looks like Jacinda Ardern has no idea what is going on in her work place.
  
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  August 8, 2019 4:07pm
  - herb1
    
    I suppose being in Egypt is better than swanning around Pacific Island countries with a population less than an average crowd in a South Auckland pub
    
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    August 8, 2019 5:00pm
  - MH
    
    An attack of the vapours is imminent.
    get thee to a Whanau or a nunney but check with a licensed Accoucheur first.
    
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    August 8, 2019 5:12pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What ‘work place?’
    
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    August 8, 2019 5:34pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Precisely.. “Work”… filthy four letter word ending in “K”.
      
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      August 8, 2019 5:56pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Part Time workers never know what’s going on in their work place.
    Which is a rookie mistake.
    If you’re the Boss, you’re still responsible.
    
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    August 8, 2019 8:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Paula Bennett tells of the strife involved in making a complaint about a Labour predator.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/08/paula-bennett-claims-beehive-staffer-has-no-faith-over-complaints.html
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August 8, 2019 4:26pm
- Bell-47
  
  This is not looking good at all. The complainants now going to the leader of the opposition. Now Labour cannot close this lid on this. If Mallard does anything about it I’ll eat my hat. I would say word has been sent from above that there is nothing to see and the complainants will be run out of town. It’s disgusting this is going on after Mallards rant a few months ago. I hope Paula and National get stuck right into this grubby CoL we are stuck with.
  
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  August 8, 2019 5:15pm
dave_c_

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/the-reserve-banks-of-india-and-new-zealand-press-the-panic-button/
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August 8, 2019 4:50pm
MH

An attack of the vapours is imminent.
get thee to a Whanau or a nunney but check with a licensed Accoucheur first.
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August 8, 2019 5:11pm
The King

Another hate crime by Maori Supremacists, despite making up 14% of the population Maoris commit over 50% of all murders.

(don’t tell me they are not supremacists they literally have “Black Power” tattooed on their forehead)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/114850976/live-manhunt-on-for-alleged-killer-driver-liam-strickland

Its time to bring in the death penalty this Maori supremacy must not be tolerated.
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August 8, 2019 5:41pm
Tall Man

Now those of you who know me know of my affinity for a ball peen hammer and all the marvelous things you can do with one…. Well, I have a new friend…

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/jobmate-rotary-hammer-drill-1000-watt/p/292367

and it’s amazing 😉
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August 8, 2019 5:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like the Investigation into the Christchurch massacre is turning into a right doozy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/08/christchurch-shootings-real-issues-not-being-heard-by-inquiry-critics-say

Concern is growing that New Zealand’s royal inquiry into the Christchurch massacre is lacking teeth and transparency with survivors, the media and security experts raising red flags.

Wide-ranging suppression orders have also raised questions from the Human Rights Commission, with New Zealand’s chief human rights commissioner Paul Hunt saying it was important that justice was not only done, but seen to be done.
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August 8, 2019 8:21pm
Hugh Pavletich

… HONG KONG …

Beijing summons 300 Hong Kong leaders as lawyers back protesters | World | The Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-rallies-hong-kong-leaders-as-lawyers-walk-out-2lc620zxh

Hong Kong demonstrators use laser pointers in anti-government protest – BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-49280030/hong-kong-demonstrators-use-laser-pointers-in-anti-government-protest

Hong Kong student leader arrested over laser pointers freed, as protesters challenge police over safety of tear gas, rubber bullets | Hong Kong Free Press HKFP

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/08/hong-kong-student-leader-arrested-laser-pointers-freed-protesters-challenge-police-safety-tear-gas-rubber-bullets/
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August 9, 2019 6:47am
Hugh Pavletich

UNITED STATES HOUSING: Perspectives from New Zealand …

Americans scramble to find affordable homes as housing crisis spreads | Prashant Gopal, Reade Pickert and Noah Buhayar | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/114845729/americans-scramble-to-find-affordable-homes-as-housing-crisis-spreads

Low mortgage rates and thriving employment should be the recipe for a strong housing market. Instead, they’re deepening America’s affordability crisis.

What began on the coasts, in areas like New York and San Francisco, is now radiating into the nation’s heartland, as well as to cities from Las Vegas to Charleston, South Carolina.

Entry-level buyers are scrambling to purchase homes that are in short supply, sending values soaring. … read more via hyperlink above …
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The average home price in every American state – and what you get for your money | Marissa Perino | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/113894360/the-average-home-price-in-every-american-state–and-what-you-get-for-your-money?rm=m
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2019 15th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
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