General Debate 3 July 2019

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John Warren

Right there, paragraph three, is why I’ve had a gutsful of the media. Don’t even know why I was browsing RNZ really, other than that I no longer go anywhere near Stuff and the Herald, for reasons well discussed round here.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/393396/peak-bleak-how-to-survive-tv-s-toughest-times
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July 3, 2019 8:05am
- Tall Man
  
  He’s just waving a flag and shouting at the world that he is a fuckwit.
  
  Like you, I avoid most “news” sources as they are just childish rubbish.
  
  Perhaps someone can drop him an email and explain that his words are also just childish mouth farts. Not me, I refuse to go back to that article.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:32am
- Rich Prick
  
  We should dedicate entire psychiatric wards to Trump. He’s turning most of the left completely insane. Which is kind of funny seeing as they are the preachers of tolerance and inclusion.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:13am
  - Tall Man
    
    This is referring to a scene from the movie “The way we were”… In the scene where a sign was held up saying “Any peace but Katies piece”.
    
    “I’m sure the unsigned writer got this wrong. Katie wasn’t “trying to get the students to stand up for their beliefs,” she was trying to get them to stand up for her beliefs. Otherwise, she would never have called them “fascists.” “Fascists” was the Communists’ all-purpose insult to anyone who disagreed with them, like “racist” today”
    
    A very apt comment relating to the left today.
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:26am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Tall Man, yet another harmless and pointless post from you continues.
      
      Like a melted snowflake if you will!
      
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      July 3, 2019 9:59am
      - sooty
        
        My word stephie, what makes you so high and mighty and lord of the blog?
        KBs bigest collecter of downticks?
        Most people think that you watch movies with Shane.
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:01am
      - Tall Man
        
        Do you actually read what you post…. no one else does.
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:34am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        That’s rich from you stephie; all those pointless posts of yours accusing anyone that disagrees with you of being “alt-tight” or Trump supporters.
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:50am
- stinkypete
  
  he is right about FLeabag though
  amazing and excruciating
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:22am
- oldgolfer
  
  You are right: smart-arse bullshit.
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:28am
Mobile Michael

Trains not running in Wellington, 60% of public servants not going to work. Will the country implode?
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July 3, 2019 8:08am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  So that’s the reason the buses were a bit crowded today. Trains are such a fragile, expensive, and inflexible mode of transport. As soon as the internal combustion engine was invented, they should have been abandoned for any purpose other than inter-city freight.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:33am
  - sooty
    
    If you took the bus to work, you had better leave real early to go home, because they will be full.
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:43am
  - Tall Man
    
    Trains are a great method for mass commuting but….. the operators need to do the maintenance. Deferred maintenance is the “accountant’s” best friend.
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:49am
    - tf78
      
      Would this derailment have anything to do with Shane Jones’ logging launch yesterday or is it just coincidental timing.
      
      Just had a thought on coal – what are we going to resurface our roads and cycle ways with if we can’t have tar for the asphalt.
      
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      July 3, 2019 9:10am
      - Komata
        
        tf78@0910
        
        Re: ‘Just had a thought on coal – what are we going to resurface our roads and cycle ways with if we can’t have tar for the asphalt’.
        
        To answer that I would suggest that you ask your local ‘green’ MP, especially as ‘ashphalt’ is a by-product of the oil industry…
        
        Should you attempt such a thing, we would be interested in their answer…
        
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        July 3, 2019 12:44pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Why use public transport? It fails virtually every day.
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    Nigel Kearney, small wonder you are ignored by the real world out beyond KB.
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:01am
    - Tall Man
      
      Whereas you are ignored in the real world and in here.
      
      Guess that makes you a first class failure.
      
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      July 3, 2019 8:41pm
  - Lance
    
    Travelling across France on a TGV at 320km/h was cool. So was the Trans Alpine.
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:11am
- G152
  
  Wellington trying to catch up to Aucklands no train days.
  Keeps commuters on their toes and private cars on the road
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:40am
- rangitoto
  
  Public servants not going to work might just give Cindy’s stuttering economy a GDP boost.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:17am
  - sooty
    
    Do public servants get paid today, or are they taking a sickie?
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:02am
- The King
  
  Ah the fruits of Communism blossoming…
  
  “And then for no reason at all everybody voted for Hitler.”
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:08am
- oldgolfer
  
  It’s quite likely more may get done.
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:28am
jp_1983

Delays on the trains today (WLG) – hopefully everyone got in that needed to
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July 3, 2019 8:09am
Captain Mainwaring

Say something someone ……….
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July 3, 2019 8:15am
- Simon
  
  Something
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:17am
- ldypen
  
  Don’t Panic Mr Mainwaring!
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why?
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    GD seems to be dead
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:20am
- Andrei
  
  Your wish is my command
  
  “All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:20am
- stephieboy
  
  Captain Mainwaring, petrol heads and sniffers unite!
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:02am
- calendar girl
  
  CM, there were already 17 comments posted before yours at 8:15am – not visible, presumably, while they awaited moderation.
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:30am
Maggie Pie

So, alt-leftie LGBT Ali Mau thinks she could replace Mike Hosking on the same rate of pay, and we’d all listen to her. Honestly, why does she always insist on making blondes sound silly 🙁

https://twitter.com/NZBirder/status/1146121611398881280
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July 3, 2019 8:18am
- Tall Man
  
  She is a waste of space, much like ardern.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:34am
Andrei

I guess the failings of public transport are evident in Wellington this fine winters morning.

Will the Greens take note?
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July 3, 2019 8:22am
- Tall Man
  
  Only if the roads are clogged blocking the “smooth transition” of the BMWs that we all so generously supply them…
  
  Oops, silly me, they’ll all be off overseas also on our money saving the whales or something equally important like choosing a new Gucci handbag.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:36am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Having deprecated oil products for use on public facilities the train wheels have lovingly ground to a halt in strike over lack of grease.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Andrei, Co3 and Gridlock much more preferable?
  
  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/07/moscow-traffic-congestion-among-worlds-worst-study-says-a65917
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:03am
  - rangitoto
    
    CO3 ? Are you talking about the carbonate ion or the highly unstable carbon trioxide?
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:21am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Quick hint, cars don’t blow ozone at dry ice.
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:25am
- Komata
  
  Andrei@0822
  
  As they glide past in their Government-supplied Limo’s, I’m quite sure they will, and congratulate themselves on their superiority over ‘the common herd’.
  
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  July 3, 2019 12:46pm
alloytoo

I think, in the light of the Hell’s fake meat debacle to restrict the use of certain words related to food if the product does not actually contain any animal proteins.

Words I’m thinking of are:

Steak,
Fillet
Burger
Mince
Sausage

Anybody care to add some more.
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July 3, 2019 8:22am
- Tall Man
  
  Honest politician within the coalition….
  
  I know, not food but still something that should be punishable if incorrectly labeled.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:39am
  - sooty
    
    Don’t buy hell piza!
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:45am
- SGA
  
  Milk, cheese, ice cream 🙂
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:42am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Bacon 😀
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:51am
  - david
    
    That is why you don’t find the words “ice cream” on a Magnum package. Other countries have rules about the percentage of milk fat and dairy that need to be met before you can use the description.
    
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    July 4, 2019 5:06am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Speaking of beef, I went shopping at Pac n’ Sav for meat for tonight’s curry (Japanese brand House “Vermont” curry, naturally. http://justhungry.com/house-vermont-curry-mystery)
  
  I was surprised by the mis-pricing of the beef. Cross-cut blade steak for $17.50 a kg. Chuck steak for $16.99 (not nice-looking) and Scotch fillet for $22.99 a kg. I decided to go for the Scotch, since the quality is so much better than the stewing steak cuts.
  
  Also, a 5 kg bag of Calrose short-grain rice cost the same per kg as a 10 kg bag. So I bought the smaller bag (easier to manage). I would never see a larger container having the same unit price as a smaller one in Japan. The larger container must ALWAYS bear a cheaper unit-weight price. New Zealand is weird that way. (Unless Pac n’ Sav was trying to get rid of older stock.)
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:45am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Do what i did yesterday Sensei –
    shoot into NW and stock up on their fab ‘NZ Rump Steak’ at $12.99 kg (its for this week only). Im getting sick of having a duck every night.
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:01am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      I was aware of the NW special on rump steak, but I needed other (cheaper) stuff from Pac n’ Sav.
      
      Japanese supermarket tour (yes, the basket-holding trundlers really are that small) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhNbH7g3b6g
      
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      July 3, 2019 10:55am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The Scotch fillet steak made really good curry. The problem now is that my wife and daughters have ordered me to continue to buy good-quality beef (rather than gravy beef or other chewy cuts) for future curries.
      
      No good deed ever goes unpunished…
      
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      July 3, 2019 7:45pm
  - SGA
    
    I use reasonable amounts of olive oil, but the 5 litre cans (New World) were more expensive per litre than the same brand in 1 litre bottles (not on special either). I don’t know if that’s still the case. Go figure.
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:03am
    - sooty
      
      It’s them plastic bottles!
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:05am
      - SGA
        
        I’ve only ever seen olive oil in glass bottles?
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:45am
      - Tall Man
        
        And tins 😉
        
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        July 3, 2019 2:34pm
- Ruawai
  
  I was a vegetarian for over 20 years as I don’t really like meat, so I could never understand why so many vegetarians try and create products that look like meat.
  
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  July 3, 2019 12:51pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Maybe deep down in the vegetarian psyche is a desire to be “normal.”
    
    We see this with other groups who seek to don the mantle of “normality.” (Would gay marriage be an example of this?)
    
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    July 3, 2019 2:04pm
RW Capitalist

Recession, coming and right soon.
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July 3, 2019 8:23am
- freethinker
  
  To be fair – a recession was coming irrespective of who is in Govt, but this nest of vipers by spending/wasting the surplus and their anti farmer/Business legislation plus overall incompetence will put NZ in a much worse position to weather the storm.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:54am
  - stephieboy
    
    freethinker, and you going to cap in hand cueing for a food parcel!
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:06am
  - Tall Man
    
    The tax rebate offered by the previous Government would have mitigated it to a large degree,
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:32am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Promises, promises…
  
  New Zealand hasn’t had a recession of note in over 30 years, plus the Chinese don’t know what a recession is (house prices only ever go up, right?!).
  
  In the meantime, Japan has been in recession since the early 90s. I haven’t increased my per-page fee for translation in that time (have had to increase output to compensate).
  
  I am glad my daughters are not going into the translation/interpretation field. AI is making huge progress (the rise of the machines).
  
  Still, even though it is all downhill for me, it is a lovely ride…
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:03am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    When this popped up on my twitter last night i actually thort of you Sensei 🙂
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-PpK8MXYAA2MAp?format=jpg&name=small
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:23am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      It’s an ill wind…
      
      I miss my electrically heated toilet seat…
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:24am
Tarquin North

I see Andrew Little is going to sort Google out. After the roaring success of the Pike River re-entry this should be a walk in the the park.
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July 3, 2019 8:23am
- sooty
  
  Has he walked away from pike river?
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:46am
  - Tarquin North
    
    I think so, he just hasn’t told anyone yet. Short man’s syndrome is a tragic thing, never trust a politician who buys his clothes from T&T.
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:26am
- dubya
  
  Google has smartly recognised that many New Zealanders dislike our name suppression laws – which are widely viewed as favouring criminals.
  
  Mr Little is a circus without an audience on this matter.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:59am
rightoverlabour

Something Someone… I see the Principals were giving stick to the twit in charge of education yesterday. Their problem is that they are not a big enough group to cause serious disruption. They are threatening to withhold ministry required documentation. I don’t think that will cause a major headache. I know some doubt teacher workload issues. The same cannot be said about principal workloads or stress.
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July 3, 2019 8:24am
- sooty
  
  You would just end up public servants in Wellington, sitting on their arse getting paid, just like France!
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:48am
Simon

No personal income tax cut during Clark regime. Increase only. One tax cut during Key government.

One personal income tax cut in over 20 years. Now the mongs in Wellington cant work out why the economy is so chicken shit.

Immigration the great ponzi aint working anymore. Need greater numbers every year or it dont work. Immigration got Natz their cash surplus but now all that is left is massive under funded infrastructure issues.

Now panic interest rate cuts from RBNZ while trying to improve banks balance sheet reverses.

It anit looking too good.
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July 3, 2019 8:25am
- alloytoo
  
  Don’t forget the one under English which was reversed.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:34am
- rangitoto
  
  There were two tax adjustments under Key and one passed into law by Bill English, which was repealed by the CoL before it came into force. Do you long for the good old days of Cullens $60K Rich Prick top tax threshold.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:29am
hullkiwi

Goofy shows he has no ideas, while John Tamihere is at least promoting ideas to deliver infrastructure in Auckland.
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July 3, 2019 8:27am
- secondcumming
  
  and… *LEST WE FORGET*
  
  https://www.w3vietnam.org.nz/images/goffandclark.bmp
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:45am
  - tf78
    
    I’ve seen a similar photo of Hipkins and Adern as besties.
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:07am
  - stephieboy
    
    secondcumming, why should Joe and Jane voter actually care?
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:12am
    - secondcumming
      
      What you need to understand stephieboy is that every time you make a comment, the elephant in the room makes *jerk-off motions* behind your back 😎
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:03am
    - Tall Man
      
      Because a leopard seldom changes it’s spots.
      
      These two were spitting at returning Vietnam vets in Queens Street Auckland. They are still venomous troughers.
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:30am
      - Tall Man
        
        “The veterans’ campaign for recognition fell on deaf ears with successive governments. Harris recalls a younger Helen Clark wondering aloud why they wanted compensation when they had volunteered to go. By this time, the Defence Ministry knew that the defoliants the soldiers were exposed to could kill. But there were lies and cover-ups. ”
        
        “https://www.whaleoil.net.nz/2008/05/helen-clark-disgusts-me/”
        
        No one does hypocrisy as well as the left.
        
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        July 3, 2019 5:16pm
freethinker

Who is telling the truth in the US – AOC – Refugee camps have no water and conditions are deplorable – Catholic Priests – we visited same camps – plenty of water and no sign of deplorable conditions?
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July 3, 2019 8:29am
- Kabull
  
  It most certainly is not AOC.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:33am
- Tall Man
  
  Do you really need to ask?
  
  aoc and ardern have the same issue with honesty, truth is only applied if a lie can’t be thought of in time.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:42am
  - sooty
    
    She got caught out screaming at an empty parking lot fence!
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:51am
    - Inandout
      
      sooty, Americans are used to seeing fake news, CNN made it into an art form.
      
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      July 3, 2019 9:24am
    - John Warren
      
      Not really very different to JA’s staged spontaneous interactions with starstruck children.
      
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      July 3, 2019 1:02pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They came out of the same mold
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:08am
    - tf78
      
      I saw a cartoon with Cortez saying that “we must stop catching fish just for their fingers”.
      
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      July 3, 2019 9:14am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Crocodiles can grow up to 14 feet, but most have 4.
        
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        July 3, 2019 10:37am
- Scott
  
  Freethinker – good question. We have this report from some Hispanic pastors who actually visited the facilities and found this –
  “We found no soiled diapers, no deplorable conditions and no lack of basic necessities”
  
  I heard Pastor Samuel Rodriguez speak at an Arise conference in Wellington a few years ago and he’s a top man. I’d certainly put his testimony ahead of Congresswoman Cortez!
  
  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic.amp
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:04am
  - Ruawai
    
    Also no one forces these people to try and cross the border, they are free to walk home.
    
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    July 3, 2019 12:56pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Want to see some fun? Go to Youtube and search AOC mini me. Hilarious
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:09am
  - tf78
    
    Steve – funny that the mini Cortez seems much more intelligent.
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:16am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Too right she is!
      
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      July 3, 2019 10:38am
    - Tall Man
      
      Low bar though.
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:28am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  You know how she got the job? She sent an audition tape to the DNC, and was picked out of 1000’s of applicants as the one who ticked the right boxes in terms of age, ethnicity, sex, and ability to emote effectively for an audience. Scary huh?
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:14am
  - Komata
    
    UC@09014
    
    It’s actually a lot more interesting than that:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU
    
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    July 3, 2019 12:57pm
hullkiwi

Be grateful KiwiRail it wasn’t a passenger train. May be now they’ll talk to Ministers about the conditions of the track in Wellington and Auckland!
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July 3, 2019 8:29am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  You might have something there hullkiwi.
  Last week I rode a train into Wellington and going past Westpac stadium even at low speed it was rocking like crazy.
  Something definitely not quite right about the tracks in that area. Not surprised the freight train came off.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:58am
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If there’s a terrorist attack on US soil on 4 July, then, mark my words, it will be sponsored by the Trump re-election committee.
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July 3, 2019 8:34am
- Komata
  
  Fernglass @0834
  
  Sources for your claim?
  
  Thanks.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:42am
  - Tall Man
    
    The only source an idiot needs is tomato while they investigate their own weak mind.
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:46am
    - fernglas
      
      So glad your sense of humour and appreciation of irony hasn’t been blunted by your self admiration
      
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      July 3, 2019 9:01am
      - Tall Man
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCsNunGnqE0
        
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        July 3, 2019 8:38pm
- Tall Man
  
  What an idiotic thing to say.
  
  The only violence, verbal and physical, has emanated from the left… the so called democrats.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:43am
  - Martin Williams
    
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    Conservatism is the source of extremist violence and terrorism in contemporary times.
    
    Time to up your game guys – you have anger issues.
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:07am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Morning racist
      
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      July 3, 2019 9:41am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, man up ! You have anger issues also!
        
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        July 3, 2019 10:26am
      - All_on_Red
        
        No I don’t
        Stop telling lies
        
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        July 3, 2019 10:42am
      - sooty
        
        Or she will do a Meka on you!
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:08am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Well yes if you mean Islamist conservatism then you’re absolutely correct.
      
      You didn’t though did you?
      
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      July 3, 2019 10:31am
      - Martin Williams
        
        Yes, I did. All conservatism. It is the common denominator.
        
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        July 3, 2019 12:29pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        No you didn’t. You meant what you’d consider to be right-wing.
        
        You’ve pretty much got form for making an inane comment then dancing on a head of a pin to explain why what you said wasn’t what you meant.
        
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        July 3, 2019 1:15pm
    - Tall Man
      
      https://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36443664/protesters-attack-trump-supporters-in-california
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:27am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Have you seen the videos of Antifa thugs beating up the gay, conservative journalist of Vietnamese heritage Martin? Andy Ngo ended up in hospital with a brain bleed, and had milkshakes with cement in them poured over him.
      
      https://clarionproject.org/andy-ngo-antifa-attack/
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:58am
      - Martin Williams
        
        Well it’s not murdering 51 people and live streaming it, is it?
        
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        July 3, 2019 12:35pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        That makes it ok then does it Martin. Is this going to be your MO in future? “Oh well it’s no Christchurch, so we won’t bother.”
        
        Don’t remember you being on here condemning the Charlie Hebdo murders, the Various truck attacks, the London Bridge attack… I could go on but I’m sure you get the point. You only comment to make political points and you don’t do it very well.
        
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        July 3, 2019 1:19pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        A “conservative” eco-fascist? That just doesn’t sound right to me.
        
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        July 3, 2019 1:24pm
      - Tall Man
        
        So now the christchurch massacre has become a “ponytail pulling” moment. No consideration given to the fact that tarrant was an green eco terrorist .
        
        As long as the left don’t murder more than tarrant it’s ok.
        
        Just as a matter of interest martin, is that a cumulative target or a single event?
        
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        July 3, 2019 2:14pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “Well it’s not murdering 51 people and live streaming it, is it?”
        
        No but a far left eco fascist did that.
        
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        July 3, 2019 2:36pm
      - Lance
        
        Wet cement can cause blindness, it’s a vicious alkaline (pH of 12).
        
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        July 3, 2019 3:16pm
    - Komata
      
      MW@0907
      
      You support ANTIFA then?
      
      (Asking for a friend).
      
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      July 3, 2019 1:00pm
      - Tall Man
        
        He’s waiting for ardern to let him know what he supports.
        
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        July 3, 2019 2:17pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The Dems are now opposing border crossings – in Korea
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:12am
  - White Anglo Saxon Protestant
    
    The only violence, verbal and physical, has emanated from the left… the so called democrats.
    
    And now, Vox is telling them to “tool-up”
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:52am
    - Tall Man
      
      A bit of a conundrum I suppose… what with opposing the “second amendment” and all…………
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  TDS alert
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:11am
All_on_Red

It turns out that not only are Wind Turbine’s Bird Choppers, they are decimating the insect population as well.
‘Germany’s leading technology assessment research institute published a study last October concluding that the rapid expansion of wind farms threatens insect populations.
Dr. Franz Trieb of the Institute of Engineering Thermodynamics concludes that a “rough but conservative estimate of the impact of wind farms on flying insects in Germany” is a “loss of about 1.2 trillion insects of different species per year” which “could be relevant for population stability.”
The German wind insect death toll is an astonishing one-third of the total annual insect migration in southern England, a comparison that the scientists say “shows that losses of a trillion per year certainly have a relevant order of magnitude.”
Because insects migrate, the impact of German wind farms is “not limited to local populations, but includes species like the Ladybird beetle (C. septempunctata) and the Painted Lady butterfly (V. cardui) that travel hundreds and even thousands of kilometers through Europe and Africa.”

The study took place over 27 years
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July 3, 2019 8:42am
- Tall Man
  
  Imagine what’s coming…..
  
  Greenpeace now want to save the mosquito… anything to pump more money into the coffers.
  
  Sell shares in companies selling “flyspray”…..
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:46am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Send Greenpeace to Alaska. I have seen the air black with swarms of mossies. Greenpeace will have a change of view when they get bitten
    
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    July 3, 2019 9:16am
    - Tall Man
      
      Nelson Lakes……
      
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      July 3, 2019 2:09pm
- SGA
  
  “rough but conservative estimate of the impact of wind farms on flying insects in Germany… could be relevant for population stability.”
  …
  The study took place over 27 years
  
  Well, 27 years later, is the population of flying insects in Germany in dire straits?
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:55am
  - Tall Man
    
    Funny you should mention Dire Straits…. I’m pretty sure that this is the labour losers theme song… apart from the “chicks” being really really young a la youth camps…
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:22am
    - White Anglo Saxon Protestant
      
      In that case, Mark Knopfler should get in touch with Eminem’s lawyer…
      
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      July 3, 2019 12:39pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red, source please!
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:14am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Here you go. It was in the text thicko
    ‘Dr. Franz Trieb of the Institute of Engineering Thermodynamics’
    
    How was your Science Denying Creationist’s get together in the weekend?
    Good?
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:26am
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , those findings are disputed here,
      
      In a study, DLR researchers have investigated the interactions between flying insects and wind farms.
      
      The model calculation used in the study indicates that the numbers of affected flying insects could be relevant for the stability of the flying insect population and thus influence species protection and the food chain.
      
      The study does not conclude whether wind farms are the main cause of insect extinction or whether they have an impact on it.
      
      The study recommends an empirical review of the losses theoretically calculated in the study in order to better understand the relationship between insect migration and wind farm operation, and to develop and implement measures to monitor and prevent insect strikes.
      
      Focus: Energy, wind power
      
      https://www.dlr.de/dlr/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-10081/151_read-32941/year-all/#/gallery/33841
      
      You fool!
      
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      July 3, 2019 10:37am
      - Tall Man
        
        I guess the “mods” are allowing you a little latitude steffy… Maybe giving you a bit of rope.
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:23am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Calm down Stephie. You should do something about your anger issues.
        Is being angry common amongst creationists?
        
        As to your post. I see you post the Summary, not from the interview. You do realise that they are interviewing Dr Franz Trieb who prepared the Study I mentioned? (Of course you don’t. That’s why you’re KBs Dumbest Commentator)
        Did you actually understand this paragraph from your Summary?
        “The model calculation used in the study indicates that the numbers of affected flying insects could be relevant for the stability of the flying insect population and thus influence species protection and the food chain.’
        
        Please note this question to Dr Trieb and his answer from your own link
        ‘What conclusions can be drawn from your model calculation?
        
        Trieb: Our model calculation points to an aspect of wind energy that has not yet been comprehensively researched. Approximately 1200 billion flying insects are struck each year as they fly through the rotors of wind farms in Germany. Such a large number of affected insects could be a relevant factor for the stability of the insect population and could thus influence species protection and the food chain.’
        
        So, 1200 Billion insects are struck each year as they fly through wind farms.
        Such a large number of affected insects could be relevant for species stability.
        Is 1200 Billion a lot? Seems a lot to me. And to Dr Trieb.
        To be fair Trieb does say that more research should be done.
        You’re the fool Ralph.
        
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        July 3, 2019 11:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red,
        
        “.. could be a relevant factor for the stability of the insect population and could thus influence species protection and the food chain.’
        
        “Could” is I believe not a verifiable fact!
        
        “New Study Finds That Wind Turbines Could Have Impact On Insect Populations, Food Chain”
        
        https://notrickszone.com/2019/05/03/new-study-finds-that-wind-turbines-could-have-impact-on-insect-populations-food-chain/
        
        Again, ” could” !
        
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        July 3, 2019 12:49pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Lol
        You’ve just linked again to THE SAME STUDY BY DR TRIEB
        1200 Billion insects dead on German Wind Turbines.
        You’re so dumb I can’t stop laughing
        Keep back peddling. It’s funny.
        
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        July 3, 2019 12:58pm
Nukuleka

Why is it that banks like the ANZ and Kiwibank seem to think is is their role to somehow be social engineers bombarding us with their wonderful gender and rainbow credentials, with gender and rainbow ticks from some self-created SJW group that few have heard of and even fewer give a toss about.

And also getting into the world of religious proselytizing. I get the idea that they want to show that they are banks for everybody but when, like Kiwibank, they show various racial, ethnic individuals and plonk a hijabed woman in the middle when the hijab denotes a religion/ ideology and not a race then they are proselytizing. No-one clearly Jewish or Buddhist or Christian in the mix.

They should just stick to their core banking business and do it well, not bother trying to show us all their SJW credentials.
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July 3, 2019 8:43am
- MCos
  
  Kiwibank probably doesn’t provide strictly Islamic banking services.
  Having said that I wouldn’t be surprised if most Muslims use the same services as everyone else.
  Same as the vast majority of sexually active Catholics use contraception whatever the Pope says.
  BTW
  How do you indicate someone is a Jew or a Christian or a Buddhist in a crowd?
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:26am
  - Tall Man
    
    Ask SBW about banks.
    
    I think you betray a little ignorance there.
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:20am
  - Nukuleka
    
    That’s the entire point! How can you tell a Muslim woman from the crowd ought to be your question! The one who must do as her father, brother, husband imam tells her and cover her bloody hair. Not very ‘kiwi’ in my view.
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:49am
sooty

Paddy Gower is overseas.
Who paid for the trip?
Where has he gone?
Why has he gone?
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July 3, 2019 8:56am
- Poppa
  
  No idea Sooty but NZ is a better place while he is wherever he is
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:10am
- Fletch
  
  He has had his head shaved with a swastika in the side and gone to infiltrate the “far right” in Europe in order to bust the scene wide open in NZ. He was being interviewed by Duncan Garner yesterday and sounded like a mental conspiracy theorist. See the other two hosts in the background with folded arms while he goes on about National being “far right” because they don’t support signing the Migration Compact.
  
  The guy is out of his mind. NZ’s version of Jim Acosta.
  
  https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNZ/videos/vb.97548423605/463994617493271/?type=2&theater
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:10am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch,
    
    “..sounded like a mental conspiracy theorist”
    
    ???
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:16am
  - Swifty
    
    I am rapidly reaching the conclusion that Paddy Gower is not right in the head.
    
    Seriously.
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:52am
    - John Warren
      
      It’s very apparent recently. I’ve had to stop watching 3 News since they began starting their broadcasts with his “Because It Matters” stories. He’s becoming increasingly unhinged.
      
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      July 3, 2019 1:57pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        I wonder if they have a sickbay at his workplace, because if they do he needs to be in it.
        
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        July 3, 2019 8:09pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  More importantly, can someone convince him to stay where-ever he has gone and thereby increase the average IQ of NZ journalists.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:16am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    UN, from one who thinks Asians have superior IQ’s than the likes of you!
    
    LOL
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:17am
    - Tall Man
      
      What a ridiculous comment.
      
      Yet again, steffy girl chases the “idiot of the day” award.
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:11am
    - cmm
      
      Ummm, what’s wrong with recognising some basic bilology?
      * Women tend to be smaller and weaker than men.
      * Black people tend to reflect less light and whites tend to reflect the most light.
      * East Asians tend to have higher IQs than everyone else and Africans the least.
      
      Saying LOL does not make basic biology go away.
      
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      July 3, 2019 3:05pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        The trouble with the scientific facts is that they don’t always fit the prevailing narrative and thus must be suppressed. Their proponents must be attacked and vilified.
        
        Totalitarians are very willing to attack and harm people who say the wrong thing. It is one of their hallmarks.
        
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        July 3, 2019 4:48pm
- Tall Man
  
  Why does he have to come back?
  
  It would be interesting to see how many coalition mps have fucked off overseas during the 3 week break.
  
  It would be especially hypocritical for the watermelons to have done so. Perhaps we need to teach them how to use a phone to talk to people rather than a “plane”.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:18am
- Colville
  
  Will he please stay there?
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:23am
- Inandout
  
  sooty, will he not come back?
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:24am
- freethinker
  
  More to the point when will he return and bombard us with the freshly minted shit he acquired on his trip.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:19am
- oldgolfer
  
  The better question is, does he need to come back?
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:31am
BassilFawlty

Why are gay people are so worried about going to hell anyway? All the atheists will be there, as will the adulterers and all the other fun people.
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July 3, 2019 8:59am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Pretty sure they’re not worried about going to hell. A Heaven stuffed full of Mormons or Southern Baptists or Muslims or any other stripe of fundie nutjobs sounds like hell to me.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:19am
- rightoverlabour
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9NCyGaxoDY
  
  Rowan Atkinson… Welcome to Hell
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:27am
- Bell-47
  
  Pretty sure there will be a bunch of Catholics there as well. Imagine the entertainment lineup, Freddie Mercury, George Michael, Michael Jackson, David Bowie…
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:02am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Lots of Catholics in Hell. Hitler, Stalin ( who studied to be a priest – preferred Genocide to paedophilia though), Leopold II, Pope Alexander IV, Pope John XII, Timothy McVeigh, Augusto Pinochet, Ngo Dinh Diem, Papadoc Duvalier ….
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:24am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Yeah some like women, some men, some children or even barnyard animals but Stalin was into fucking whole populations
      
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      July 3, 2019 8:30pm
Fletch

Breakfast has a poll on Facebook –

This morning Professor Tim Naish from the Antarctic Research Centre told us the international response to climate change needs to ramp up. It is an emergency and one that should be taken just as seriously as we would a war. The sheer scale of the situation can be a hard one to swallow…So we want your feedback this morning.
Are you making changes in your life to try and help combat climate change?

https://www.facebook.com/Breakfaston1/posts/10157229888477719
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July 3, 2019 9:12am
- sooty
  
  Yep, sure are. Just off to burn some car tyres!
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:13am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I burnt a couple of old mattresses the other night. Shit, do they go off! Anyway, I am thrilled to announce that the trees in my part of the world are all growing much better with the extra CO2 I supplied them.
    
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    July 3, 2019 12:10pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Fletch, and to add to the misery from these morons we get.
  
  http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/council-taken-to-court-over-lack-of-action-on-climate-change/ar-AADMuKE?ocid=ientp
  
  Proof we are now living in the age of the terminally stupid. An era in which the media and the courts will entertain happily any SJW nutcase and their cause. All of which amounts to wasting public money and proving nothing!
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:27pm
lastmanstanding

I watched the excellent doco Bad Blood the demise of Malcolm Turnbull on Sky last night. Yet again and after following politics since the late 1980s how feral and venal the political class are.

They demonstrate the very worst of human behaviour.

They are command and control freaks all about power at any cost.

Its all about them from one to ninety nine with the mug voters at a hundred if your lucky.

Best to treat them as part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

That way you can avoid the worst.
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July 3, 2019 9:22am
Inandout

Fourth of July boycott underway in US of FB, Twitter and Google for their crumbling to the leftists. I can miss those sites with ease.
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July 3, 2019 9:28am
Maggie Pie

VIVA LA VULVA 🙂 A friend just emailed me this link.
It is one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen – just like a music video only better!
“I have to praise you like i should”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12242684
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July 3, 2019 9:33am
Tall Man

The world is going to burn up in 12 years……

Hang on:

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/world/freak-summer-hailstorm-buries-mexican-city-under-five-feet-of-ice/
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July 3, 2019 9:34am
- stephieboy
  
  Tall Man,
  
  https://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/global-warming/science-and-impacts/climate-attribution-science
  
  Sigh!
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:30am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Sigh, oh why do I bother responding to an ignoramous that refuses to consider that there may be another side to the story… It’s the Sun, and sun is entering a quiet phase and the earth has not fucking warmed since 1998 and all the warmists do is alter their bloody temperature records to fit their alarmism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjlPvwRP-fM
    
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    July 3, 2019 12:22pm
Tall Man

“Barry Soper: Māori statistics are a damning indictment on New Zealand”

No barry, maori statistics are a damning indictment on maori.
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July 3, 2019 9:44am
Rich Prick

Should we be concerned about a Police visit over this?
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July 3, 2019 9:49am
- Tall Man
  
  We should be concerned at any police visit with someone’s legal opinions being questioned.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:08am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Yes. And the only way to counter this is to vote the present Fascists out.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:33am
  - sooty
    
    Cindys tame police man has been spoken too!
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:15am
Fletch

I see that Nike wanted to release a sneaker with an American flag on it for July 4th, but the idiot “kneeler” they sponsor, Colin Kaepernick, didn’t like the idea. Said it was racist or something, so Nike have dropped it.

This is seriously bullshit.

https://people.com/sports/colin-kaepernick-objects-nike-besty-ross-flag-shoe/
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July 3, 2019 9:55am
- MCos
  
  Tell the whole story
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:26am
  - Tall Man
    
    The article did.
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:18am
- Ruawai
  
  So maybe Rugby Australia can now tell Qantas where they want them to fly their planes to as well as Qantas telling Rugby Australia who to employ.
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:10pm
srylands

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/113950023/google-makes-no-changes-after-emailing-out-name-of-grace-millane-murder-accused

“In a statement to Sky News Australia, Little said Google’s response had been “unsatisfactory”.

“Google’s contempt for New Zealand law, and for Grace Millane’s family is unacceptable, and I will now be considering my options,” Little said.”

This shows the futility of enforcing New Zealand name suppression orders in an interconnected world. What is the New Zealand Government going to do to Google?
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July 3, 2019 9:57am
- Tall Man
  
  Whereas our “suppression laws” show absolute contempt for New Zealand’s citizens.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:10am
  - stephieboy
    
    Tall Man , there could very well be a day when with your arraignment name suppression laws could be well appreciated!
    
    They’ re there for reasons especially to protect the well connected, rich and famous
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:22am
    - Tall Man
      
      So does me calling you a girl give you the right to suggest that I may face criminal charges?
      
      I can see another “naughty corner” moment for you shortly.
      
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      July 3, 2019 11:17am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Google is not a NZ citizen so NZ’s politicians wishes are largely irrelevant to them.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:13am
  - srylands
    
    I think you will find that this issue will fade away with nothing being done.
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:25am
- rightoverlabour
  
  The only options Little should consider is how quickly to fuck off out of our lives.
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:30am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Isn’t interconnected the same thing as globalisation?
  
  Isn’t Little in favour of that?
  
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  July 4, 2019 6:33pm
BrownSnake

psssst pssst

Anyone got some Pure White Plastic Bags

You know pure the real deal

I need to cook the captains eggs
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July 3, 2019 9:58am
- Rich Prick
  
  Is your product cut to at least 70 microns?
  
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  July 3, 2019 10:45am
- rangitoto
  
  https://www.alibaba.com
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:16pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Have to laugh at this. What will Cindy do?
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12246267
    
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    July 3, 2019 3:22pm
- artemisia
  
  I see an Indian takeaway in Auckland has cut the handles off its plastic bags so they are not illegal. They don’t want to dump a pallet load of bags. Don’t blame them.
  
  Good idea. Don’t even need to cut off the handles, just cut them once and leave people to tie them if they want to.
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:41pm
- Fletch
  
  The supermarket sells many different kinds of bin liners – some with handles by Glad. Just buy some at the supermarket, open and use them. They can’t stop you.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:28pm
MCos

Looks like It might be time for yet another coup in Thailand.
It’s been three months plus since the elections and a new government has yet to be formed. As I recall there are something like twenty coalition partners and there seems to be endless squabbling about who gets what ministry.
Not to put to fine a point on it; funds are allocated to ministries and a certain percentage finds it’s way into the politicians back pockets.
One guy who was PM for a couple of years was nicknamed Mr ATM in the newspapers.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1109413-talk-of-coup-rears-its-ugly-head-again/?utm_source=newsletter-20190702-1343&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
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July 3, 2019 10:21am
- Tall Man
  
  Sounds a lot like MMP negotiations with “what’s in it for wynston”.
  
  ardern was happy just getting a chance to ponce about on the world stage doing nothing so she was a cheap deal.
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:15am
Bell-47

In breaking news, unionised workers complain about competitiveness in the workplace and that they are being pressured to do their jobs (incentivised with bonuses). Only f*&#ing millennials would be complaining like this.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12246146

I dispair.
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July 3, 2019 10:42am
rightoverlabour

Specially for Martin Williams…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/113756777/couple-evicted-from-home-four-days-before-insulation-deadline-considers-legal-action
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July 3, 2019 10:44am
- Rich Prick
  
  No doubt Cindy and Phil will find them a motel room with meth-heads for neighbours. I’m expecting a flood of these hark luck stories as more landlords exit the market.
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:16am
  - Tall Man
    
    Had a file on my desk recently where the flat was sublet to a dog owner who did $24,000 worth of damage including damaging the roof of the building below by throwing all the dog shit out the window onto the roof.
    
    Tenancy tribunal not very helpful at this stage and the landlord has not been able to evict the tenant either.
    
    Interesting times.
    
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    July 3, 2019 11:37am
    - Rich Prick
      
      You have to wonder about a species that thinks the correct thing to do with dig shit is to pick it up off the floor and throw it out the window and onto a neighbour’s roof.
      
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      July 3, 2019 12:37pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Second story flat so chucked onto the roof below her window.
        
        Awesome people we have around these days. Probably a mate of steffy’s. She chuck a fair amount of shit on here.
        
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        July 3, 2019 2:02pm
  - John Warren
    
    I exited in favour of commercial property about 4 years ago. I think I’ve said it before here: I’ve leased one of my buildings to myself – best tenant I’ve ever had!
    
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    July 3, 2019 3:26pm
- WaveyDavey
  
  BTW not evicted but given notice.
  
  Don’t fall for Stuff’s emotional blackmail.
  
  “They planned to ask for the $4000 from their landlord because the landlord had failed to bring the property up to standard by the July 1 deadline and would then look at legal action.”
  
  So they brought it on themselves. Idiots.
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:22pm
Jack5

Proposed changes to the structure of rape trials could remove from accused the right to a fair trial.

Jan Logie, Green MP and Parliamentary Undersecretary to the Minister of Justice, spelled out likely changes in an interview by Lisa Owen on RNZ’s Checkpoint programme last night.

Suggested changes include removal from juries (if they remain in the system) the chance to observe demeanour of complainants under cross-examination. This would be done through recorded video, as would complainants’ evidence in chief.

As a layman, the big change appears to me to be that those accused of rape could be denied the right to trial by jury.

Logie’s defence of suggested changes was on the lines: the system has been instituted successfully in Australia.

In questioning by Owen, Logie said:

“ .. the evidence has been that we’ve had about a 1 per cent conviction rate relevance [sic] to the prevalence of this violence in our society.”

One in a hundred convicted. Can rape be that rife?

Owen challenged Logie for referring to rape complainants as “victims” rather than complainants. Owen said this seemed to be “presupposing a position”. Elsewhere in the interview, Logie called them “survivors”.

Add the possibility of removal of jury trials to other moves such as the Government web site where shoppers can inform on retailers for providing plastic bags, and we have a big, looming threat to freedom of speech, and it’s time to worry about our democracy.

Lisa Owen’s interview can be heard and watched at:

https://youtu.be/NYaaxecW2M0
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July 3, 2019 11:16am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Rape is a heinous crime. But so is false accusation, or “consensual sex” that gets reconsidered in the morning. A woman that falsely acuses a man of rape should get the same sentence that the man would have got, if convicted. Glad I am not a single male looking for a date…
  
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  July 3, 2019 12:45pm
secondcumming

Sounds like a winning strategy 😎

Phil Goof promising *free bus rides* for all kids under eight if he’s re-elected Mayor.
Yet another burden on ratepayers.

Why can’t everyone just drop their kids to school like my missus does? FFS!!
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July 3, 2019 11:46am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Socialists like Goff love to promise things when other people (i.e. Auckland ratepayers) are footing the bill 😀
  
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  July 3, 2019 11:48am
- secondcumming
  
  Should have read: *for all kids under eighteen….*
  
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  July 3, 2019 12:08pm
- Paulus
  
  Tauranga has just agreed for Students to have their school buses “For Free”.
  Wow does that mean that nobody like the Ratepayers are going to have to pay ?
  And of course Mummy will only have to take her tractor to work instead and there will be less traffic grids.
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:40pm
- alloytoo
  
  I wouldn’t let my under 8 climb on a bus by himself and I sure as hell won’t climb on one.
  
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  July 3, 2019 2:55pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND HOUSING: The ‘flight to affordability’ is gaining massive momentum …

… On average prices Auckland slumps with Christchurch flat- lining … as first home buyers increasingly drive the market, locating out on the fringes of the cities …

Auckland house prices slump while heat still on in smaller centres (QV Report) … Susan Edmunds … Stuff NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113933566/auckland-house-prices-slump-while-heat-still-on-in-smaller-centres?cid=app-iPad

… while on median pricing, there is even less inflation … trending lower … as the recent REINZ report for May illustrates …

https://reinz.co.nz/residential-property-data-gallery

… and too … as mortgage trends illustrate … housing speculators are ‘fleeing to the hills …

First-home buyers bigger part of housing market than investors for first time since records began … Susan Edmunds … Stuff New Zealand

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113849539/firsthome-buyers-bigger-part-of-housing-market-than-investors-for-first-time-since-records-began?cid=app-iPad

… with building consents up 8.2% yoy … as the recent Statistics NZ report for May illustrates …

Residential construction shows no sign of slowing down as new consents hit a forty five year high, pushed up by a strong rise in consents for townhouses in Auckland | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/100502/residential-construction-shows-no-sign-slowing-down-new-consents-hit-forty-five-year

… as the Labour – led Government BELATEDLY deal effectively with land supply / urban limits abolition and infrastructure debt financing … as promised with the 2017 election (read the history at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org ) … and explained extremely clearly late March this year by now focused ( relieved of KiwiBuild ) Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford …

New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat

… Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has described 2019 as ‘ … the year of delivery’.

The young, poor and disadvantaged in particular will appreciate that Prime Minister Ardern. They deserve ‘a fair go’ too.
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July 3, 2019 12:01pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Hugh – Labour has repeatedly stated that Kiwibuild isn’t going to help the “young, poor and disadvantaged” buy their own homes. You blind faith in Ardern is as naive as was your faith in the demoted Phil Twyford.
  
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  July 3, 2019 12:08pm
  - sooty
    
    You reposting the same shit day after day, hughie?
    
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    July 3, 2019 2:31pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Sooty … wrong … here is yesterdays major post …
      
      … UNITED STATES & NEW ZEALAND …
      
      Affordable Housing: Meet Amazon’s $18,000 “Lillevilla” House With Free Shipping | Mish / Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-01/affordable-housing-meet-amazons-18000-lillevilla-house-free-shipping
      
      … Looking for more affordable land and housing ? …
      
      2019 15th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
      
      http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
      
      … and … what ‘affordable’ is for various dwelling types …
      
      Definition Of An Affordable Housing Market – Performance Urban Planning
      
      http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/affordability.html
      
      … which New Zealand Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford is working on …
      
      New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive
      
      https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat
      
      … and … as Interest Co NZ Jenee Tibdhraeny explained recently…
      
      With Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford set to continue leading key housing-related law changes, Jenée Tibshraeny argues he shouldn’t be written off as an architect of the Government’s broader housing policy … Interest Co NZ
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/100460/urban-development-minister-phil-twyford-set-continue-leading-key-housing-related-law
      
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      July 3, 2019 4:35pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/07/macro-afternoon-681/#comment-3384701
        
        … UPDATE …
        
        … Kiwis are not much interested in Mickey Mouse property deals…
        
        … Is the Government learning anything with its nonsense Kiwibuild scheme ? …
        
        Harbourside apartment in Auckland’s Central Business District sells for $20,000, but there was a catch or two … Greg Ninness … Interest Co NZ
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/100527/harbourside-apartment-aucklands-cbd-sells-20000-there-was-catch-or-two
        
        A waterfront apartment in downtown Auckland has sold at auction for $20,000 (yes, that’s not a typo – twenty thousand dollars!)
        
        The one bedroom plus study apartment comes with a car park included in the price, and also a spacious deck. It’s north facing with uninterrupted views across the harbour to the North Shore (see photos above and below).
        
        It’s located on the harbour side of the Scene 1 Building at 2 Beach Road in the CBD, just along from the intersection with the bottom of Beach Road.
        
        According to QV.co.nz it had been purchased for $311,200 in 2002. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        July 3, 2019 7:58pm
      - sooty
        
        But it all looks the same hughie!
        How are we ment to tell the differance?
        
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        July 3, 2019 8:13pm
burt

New laws of physics have been discovered in Taupo;

From Stuff:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113948649/taup-wastewater-spill-halted-but-dont-flush-at-the-moment

Three hours of wastewater spillage is travelling up the Waikato River after a water main broke in Taupō, causing a large washout on the lakefront.

UP the river …. I suspect it’s going DOWN the river.
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July 3, 2019 12:01pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  To today’s so-called reporters NORTH equals UP.
  A bit like the silly little girl who reads the news on Newstalk ZB who must have referred to the French city of Lyon about ten times this morning as ‘lion’.
  
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  July 3, 2019 2:54pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Deepfakes – Generative Adversarial Neural Net created video fakes are going to change our culture forever. There are now tools available to savvy computer users online that allow you to create your own porn of any person with sufficient photographic/video training data. It is only going to get easier and better at working from less and less data and eventually will probably go as far as needing only a photo or two for low fidelity efforts. It will soon also allow even average folks to create fake videos of anyone saying or doing almost anything they want.

I think it is going to start swamping our airwaves in coming elections as comic propaganda will be able to be manufactured by enthusiastic amateurs. Every attractive celebrity is going to become a defacto-porn star. And it might really warp our world if everyone and anyone can be objectified and potentially embarrassed as star of some video nasty. ALso; paedophiles will start manufacturing their own porn.

It might also might enable a slow revolution in entertainment as low cost actors can be used to make high quality productions in which more and more of the environment is created by AI’s without the need for the expensive specialised tools and knowledge currently needed. There is no reason why same simple techniques can be applied to the whole visual environment to create fake anything.

Anyway the genie is out of the bottle. Possible that there will be legislative efforts to contain it, but likely to be both slow and unsuccessful as tech moves faster than govt
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July 3, 2019 12:42pm
Maggie Pie

What about these new morons on ZB Noon calling themselves ‘Sigh & Fill’?
They make up shit about how wonderful their show is – then repeat it on air like listeners have just texted them on 9292. LOL!!
[I know that for a fact, because in the last hour both me and my partner sent them 5 really abusive texts and they didn’t read out one of them.]

Oh well – Magic it is.
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July 3, 2019 1:08pm
- Tall Man
  
  You’ll get a “hurty face” shortly.
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:49pm
- Tall Man
  
  And here it is……
  
  https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a26d909597254b3855171453e538aa6?width=650
  
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  July 3, 2019 2:44pm
- niggly
  
  Yeah bring back Andrew Dickens!
  
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  July 3, 2019 6:54pm
emmess

Biden is done
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

From the polls since the Democratic debates. He has fallen back to the pack of the leading four now, Harris has gone up and joined it.
He was the only one that had a chance against Trump. But the Democrats are going to select a far left candidate.
So sad.
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July 3, 2019 1:13pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I suspect you are right. Kamala is obviously the DNC’s annointed as an identitarian appeasing Women Of Colour (Biden and Sanders only there to provide a semblence of competition for their chosen one), but is going to put off nearly everyone given the way she shagged her way to power.
  
  There are some better candidates in amongst them – Yang and Gabbard seem like they could be sensible. But DNC are already being caught nobbling at least Yang
  
  Tim Pool had good piece on the idiocy of Democrats deserting centre to chase left wing votes (that they will get anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGIqyEk9AhM
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:35pm
- Tall Man
  
  “So sad.”
  
  Not really, certainly not for Trump and America.
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:48pm
- kloyd0306
  
  Dimwit Dems dump Biden – nothing sad about that.
  Dimwit Dems to go further “socialist” left – nothing sad about that either.
  Dimwit Dems all for free health care for illegals.
  The only thing sad will be the looks on the Dimwit Dems’ faces the day after the election.
  
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  July 3, 2019 1:57pm
  - mandk
    
    Don’t forget: Dimwit Dems go for abortion rights for trans women.
    
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    July 3, 2019 2:26pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Like this maybe…..
    
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4a26d909597254b3855171453e538aa6?width=650
    
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    July 3, 2019 2:43pm
Jack5

Stuff and the Herald are finally latching on to the danger to the NZ economy of Reserve Bank governor Orr’s capitalisation proposals.

The media chains spent a long time following the false scent trail that the big issue was the personal expenses and fate of the ANZ Bank New Zealand’s former chief executive.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113936040/retreat-by-biggest-bank-could-have-major-implications
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July 3, 2019 1:42pm
mandk

“New Zealand has a strong economic foundation but our productivity has continued to fall behind our main competitors. To take advantage of the opportunities of the technological revolution the Government has announced Industry Transformation Plans will be developed for key sectors.”

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/business-and-employment/economic-development/industry-policy

This is laudable, but choosing agritech as a sector that can help to lift productivity is a bit odd, given that the Greens have effectively ruled out the most promising aspect of agritech: gene technology.
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July 3, 2019 2:20pm
rightoverlabour

Being doing some work on Climate Change

This is worth a read https://archive.org/stream/ThePoliticallyIncorrectGuideToClimateChange_201903/The%20Politically%20Incorrect%20Guide%20to%20Climate%20Change_djvu.txt
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July 3, 2019 2:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  Marc Morano
  
  Credentials ( scientific ?)
  
  B.A., Political Science, George Mason University
  
  https://www.desmogblog.com/marc-morano
  
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  July 3, 2019 7:14pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    You’re so funny with your silliness.
    Today you quoting back to me my own expert as refuting his own work, and worse, you didn’t realise what you were doing (!) was just a classic example of how dumb you are.
    Yet you don’t even seem embarrassed that you get made to look stupid day after day after day.
    What sort of person is like that?
    Genuine question. Are you a bit retarded?
    
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    July 3, 2019 10:14pm
- Kabull
  
  Keep up the good work – its just a pity people in a position to counter the hysteria are so few.
  Did you see these I’ve posted over the last coup;le of days?
  https://youtu.be/xRXzfJVcV6s
  https://youtu.be/nMnB1t_Vjzc
  Interesting observation from Myron Ebell – he is sure scientists will eventually come round to admitting they are wrong – but it will not be in this generation because they are so brainwashed. It will need the next generation to recognise how wrong the predictions have been.
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:36pm
- Kabull
  
  Here is another recent explanation of the data tampering made by NASA and NOAA.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=8tODIRhhV80
  
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  July 3, 2019 9:49pm
alex Masterley

Arrrgh,
The PM is open to declaring a national climate emergency.
Please some-one get the children out of the Beehive and the 9th floor in particular before they break something.
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July 3, 2019 2:55pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Fuck her. Time to start emailing the ignorant twat some science. Every fucking day.
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:31pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    A bit of reality:
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/02/climate-models-are-fudged-says-climatologist-video/
    
    The “models” are rubbish grade.
    
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    July 3, 2019 6:53pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Pathetic isn’t it, just like moving the minute hand on the Doomsday Clock. About all that it achieves is gridlock because the school kids decide to have a mass freak out.
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:50pm
- rangitoto
  
  An emergency! Close all airports immediately.
  
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  July 3, 2019 5:14pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Jacinda won’t mind catching the train from Auckland to Wellington and back every week – not if it’s for the environment and stuff.
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:04pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Stop the watermelons flying overseas…….
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:33pm
- The Feed
  
  Yes, declare an emergency, Jacinda. It’s very important. Our nuclear moment.
  
  Ban all planes
  Ban all cars and trucks
  Allow politicians to fly and drive, of course
  Ban exports
  Ban imports
  
  It’s an emergency, after all. A climate one.
  
  Let’s do this.
  
  Your voters will understand. After all, they are asking for it and know you’re great.
  
  Do it.
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:33pm
- david
  
  Nothing stupid about setting up an opportunity to take more control of the masses and deprive them of a greater proportion of their earnings under the guise of helping the and being their benefactor……. If you are a committed Socialist that is!
  
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  July 4, 2019 5:34am
Tauhei Notts

USA electoral odds update.
Trump $2.14 favourite; Kamala Harris is a clear $7.40 second favourite then on $12.50 are Biden and Warren. I was surprised to see Harris so far ahead of Biden & Warren.
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July 3, 2019 3:06pm
- Batman
  
  That’s what you get with a big field.
  
  Trump is already through to the final round, so they have to pay what they would if it was 1v1 in the final days.
  
  Meanwhile, the chances they’ll have to pay out on each of the others are statistically less, so they have higher odds.
  
  Long story short, this doesn’t really mean anything except that the US election is a long way off!
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:25pm
- Inandout
  
  TN, I heard Ryan Bridge’s fill in on Magic talking to an obvious Democrat American and I almost fell over when he said it is very likely Trump will be re-elected. But then he went on to believe AOC when she said illegals at the detention centre were drinking out of toilets. Not the real truth in that the water fountain was NEXT to the toilet bowls. AOC has this habit of screaming accusations and then pissing off. After the carpark fiasco I would have thought she would be regarded as the idiot she is.
  
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  July 3, 2019 5:43pm
cmm

Fucking nonsense

“A high-profile sportsman who allegedly helped finance an international drug syndicate can keep his name secret – for now.
…
But the sportsman was never charged by police and the Crown’s evidence against him has never been tested.

Despite that, the Crown alleged at trial the sportsman bought methamphetamine, talked to Finau about finding a supplier and helped the group exchange New Zealand currency for US currency to buy drugs.

He is also said to have taken the cash to the US for the syndicate where it was used to buy drugs.”

Having a special “mates rate” for criminal behaviour is surely not one of the ways of promoting a fair and equal society.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/113951678/prominent-sportsman-linked-to-drug-syndicate-case-can-keep-name-secret–for-now
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July 3, 2019 3:18pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Must be a friend of the Minister for Immigration and Karl Shrobeck.
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:33pm
  - Inandout
    
    ILG, the Minister for Snow.
    
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    July 3, 2019 5:44pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Karel……
    
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    July 3, 2019 8:31pm
- burt
  
  I wonder what sort of sports he’s involved in?
  
  Rugby, Cricket, Fishing ?
  
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  July 3, 2019 3:45pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Read between the lines.
    
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    July 3, 2019 5:15pm
Yvette

The Herald website shows “Lincoln Tan visits fast food restaurant that has found an ‘ingenious’ way around the plastic bag ban” by snipping the handles off the bags.

Really, are they not just bags with the handles cut off – which must be bit of a bugger for the purchaser, who more likely may end up emulating Newshub’s internationally important item of the “Australian pasta thief caught trying to steal hot spaghetti in his trousers from a Perth supermarket”

But does this snipping comply with the general Commerce Department’s edict that a product must meet it purpose – like, in the case of a bag, easy to carry.
And by removing a portion of the bag which enabled some people to use a one-off item for a secondary purpose – ie: disposal of other rubbish – with no natural ties (what were the handles) how secondarily useful now are they?

But it leaves me puzzled – “Under the new law, retailers that sold or distributed new, handled, single-use plastic bags could face a fine of up to $100,000.”
So, how is a bag with handles a greater threat to the environment than one without?
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July 3, 2019 3:21pm
- rangitoto
  
  If they aren’t charging for the bag then surely there is no product requirement. Cindy will have to urgently reconvene parliament to fix this. MP’s holidays ruined.
  
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  July 3, 2019 5:20pm
rangitoto

Via Stefan M:

“This is a lot better border security than ours Kim”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-gToswXoAASKSs.jpg
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July 3, 2019 3:32pm
Happychappy

What is said about MP’s in our political system and especially about Winston Peter’s being the most corrupt MP that has ever graced the hallways of Parliament actually is confirmed most times he speaks. The Leaders of all parties were asked how they thought they performed over the period after the last election and Peter’s referred to the PGF and how it was helping the province’s but then couldn’t help himself with the comment “it would be better for us to have a opposition that will ask questions ” this from a germ that is so gutless he attacks people from the freedom of Parliament. He runs to his lawyers when people upset him and has court cases still in motion he can’t prove the accusations that he has made.
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July 3, 2019 4:36pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Rail disaster in Wellington- cyclists conspicuous by their absence
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July 3, 2019 5:10pm
- Tall Man
  
  Far too cold……..
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:26pm
Hugh Pavletich

… CHINA …

Li Keqiang, Chinese Premier, Reaches Out to Trump and Business – The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/business/china-li-keqiang-economy-trade.html

DALIAN, China — A top Chinese leader made an unusually public effort on Tuesday to ease trade tensions somewhat with the United States, woo foreign investors and reassure his own country’s citizens that their economy remained on track.

In meetings during the World Economic Forum in the Chinese port city of Dalian, Premier Li Keqiang, China’s No. 2 official, promised to cut tariffs, loosen limits on foreign investment, protect intellectual property and allow foreign companies to apply for China’s generous subsidies for research and development. He made many of those comments in a rare question-and-answer session in the afternoon with executives from Japan, the United States and other countries.

He also said that China would allow foreign financial services companies into its market a year earlier than previously promised, and that it would rewrite many rules on foreign investment.

“We will move up the lifting of foreign capital limits in securities, futures and life insurance, from 2021 to 2020,” Mr. Li said in a morning speech, prompting a burst of applause from a crowd that appeared to include many bankers and others in finance. “This shows China’s commitment to opening up.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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July 3, 2019 5:23pm
Happychappy

The fat boy can stir the shit but the moment the pressure is placed back on him and the Reserve Govenor he changes his tune and squeals like a pig keep calm and calls for a mature debate.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/113967102/finance-minister-grant-robertson-pleads-for-mature-debate-amid-war-over-bank-capital
A poor politician that’s well out of his depth.
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July 3, 2019 5:35pm
- Swifty
  
  Mature debate?
  
  What like Taranaki? Like Firearms?
  
  Like Captain’s Calls?
  
  Looks like Grant wants it both ways. 🙂
  
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  July 3, 2019 6:59pm
- stephieboy
  
  Happychappy, tells us about your credentials?
  
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  July 3, 2019 7:08pm
- Tall Man
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8
  
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  July 3, 2019 8:26pm
nasska

…..”A poor politician that’s well out of his depth”…..

Versus a quick witted ex politician & now board member at ANZ who is doubtlessly calling the shots for his side.

Grant should be paying good odds for a win! 🙂
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July 3, 2019 7:52pm
Tauhei Notts

At this hour of the morning the cricket is so bad that I have come to Kiwiblog, in despair.
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