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Tony Stuart

Morning all. Who’s planning an all-nighter tomorrow night to support the Blackcaps in the Cricket World Cup final?

I’ve already taken the precaution of booking a day off on Monday…
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July 13, 2019 8:02am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Im going to be wired watching cricket and tennis. 1 screen from 9.30pm, 2 screens will be on from 1am
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:07am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I hope the Black Caps do well, although being halfa poms myself, I would like to see England achieve a result after being the bridesmaid 37 years ago.
  
  The wilderness is England’s natural home, 1966 is a long time between drinks if one is a football fan . . .
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:12am
  - MCos
    
    I was born a Kiwi and I’ll die a Kiwi.
    I first remember being aware of our cricket team when they were hammered by all and sundry and someone scoring a century in an innings defeat made the headlines.
    Tomorrow I’m supporting the Blackcaps 110%!
    
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    July 13, 2019 8:50am
- BrownSnake
  
  I have never sat through an entire game of cricket
  but the ball scratchers do not deserve to be there.
  
  Hope the poms get a down thou
  
  I mean they gave us this useless corrupt inept
  backward archaic stone age primitive political system that only a mental retard or Wasp would
  take seriously.
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:31am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    ‘never sat through a game of cricket’ so you know about as much about the game as the fake news NZ MSM who have offered their expert opinion on why the Black Caps got knocked out so early and so disappointingly. Now the MSM have jumped back on the Black Cap bandwagon faster than you can say commie hypocrite
    
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    July 13, 2019 9:00am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      Have a look at this laughable opinion piece on Stuff the day before we beat India https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114120595/cricket-world-cup-black-caps-making-an-art-of-boredom
      Stick to what youre good at Duncan because its not writing about cricket. We cobbled together a defendable total on a difficult wicket against world class bowling. Winning isnt always pretty (1st innings) but some of us backed the BCs at odds of $5
      
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      July 13, 2019 9:10am
      - calendar girl
        
        Agreed, HC, and well written. Duncan Johnstone appears to know too little about cricket – its vicissitudes, its frustrations and its not-infrequent surprise outcomes.
        
        Let’s hope that he’s personally and professionally embarrassed to have written so negatively about NZ’s chances of beating most cricket followers’ ‘favourite’ for the World Cup, India. His feeling of “boredom” on the first day was matched – for most of us – by our patriotic hope of a NZ revival and victory on the follow-on day. Still, all was not lost for Johnstone – he at least got paid by Stuff for his writing-off of his readers’ hopes.
        
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        July 13, 2019 10:23am
- pdm
  
  Working 10pm until 5am so it will be the radio broadcast for me. Thank goodness for Brian Waddell and Jeremy Coney.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:04am
  - plc
    
    I don’t believe anybody has ever said that about the pretentious tosspot Coney. Commentates like a schoolteacher
    
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    July 13, 2019 7:51pm
- lilman
  
  Working Sunday to have Monday off.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:32am
The Proper Ghandi

If anybody still doubts the ideology and end game of the so-called compassionate and “doing it for the people” Labourites/Greens/Socialist left I recommend having a look at this. It is an episode of Peter Whittle’s (not THAT Peter Whittle) interview show “So what you’re saying is…” available on YouTube. I have been binge watching his very interesting and thought-provoking interview programs over the last few weeks. I highly recommend Peter’s show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdqEg1OUM6M
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July 13, 2019 8:06am
- Interested Party
  
  Agree he covers some good subjects and interviews well
  
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  July 13, 2019 11:16am
Happychappy

Jacinda Adern’s eco-warrior, emissions cutting image ‘Charade’.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/john-armstrongs-opinion-jacinda-arderns-eco-warrior-emissions-cutting-image-charade
You can fool some of people some of the time but you can’t fool them all of the time. People are starting to wise up to the wool being pulled over their eyes.
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July 13, 2019 8:06am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Happychappy
  Forget what they say, and just look at what they do. Take the DCC (no, please – take the DCC!). They’ve recently signed a “Climate Emergency” declaration (whatever that means) and now they are, probably, getting $100,000,000 from the PGF to build a vanity project at sea level in the harbour basin area. What about that sea level rise, Dave?
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:18am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The wool over the eyes is accompanied by the subtle, and not so subtle, removal of the dollars from the wallet
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:18am
- Notsofast
  
  John Armstrong cites Norway as the same population with charge points for EV’s everywhere, but neglects to mention these were derived with 500 billion euro reserves generated from carbon releasing oil. Ardern is simply the worst, but we are all to blame. New Zealand is profoundly ecounsustainable with oil driven tourism and agricultural production and oil driven exports.
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I’m currently in Alesund, western Norway and evs aren’t much in evidence.
    Evs are common in Oslo and Bergen, but out of the main cities, folks are in oil guzzlers.
    
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    July 13, 2019 8:53am
    - Sacha
      
      And I think that is how it will pan out here.
      Eventually.
      Perhaps
      
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      July 13, 2019 9:31am
      - stephieboy
        
        Only if a big enough North sea oil find!
        
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        July 13, 2019 10:21am
    - Ian Hawthorn
      
      In a cold climate you want a car that can heat itself up which a combustion engine can do easily but an EV cannot.
      
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      July 13, 2019 9:48am
      - sooty
        
        Turn the heater on and you can’t drive as far!!!
        
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        July 13, 2019 10:45am
      - CJames
        
        Talking to friends from Norway last time they were here, evidently a lot of the electric cars have little diesel burners to warm them up. If that is true, and this link indicates that it is done https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102028_electric-car-battery-energy-why-waste-it-on-cabin-heating-video , then it needs to be more wisely publicised
        
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        July 13, 2019 10:52am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Heat pumps can do the job fine.
        
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        July 13, 2019 4:04pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘When it comes to taking action on what is the most pressing issue facing the planet,’
  
  Really ? Armstrong opines that the weather scam is the biggest issue facing the planet .
  
  Another propagandising media fuckknuckle.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow, what” weather scam?”
    
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    July 13, 2019 10:22am
- srylands
  
  It is a clown article. If the government was “bold” as advocated by Armstrong, the country would be impoverished and the lights would go out.
  
  New Zealand is not Norway. That’s becauae we don’t have a trillion dollar wealth fund generated by oil exports. Oh the irony.
  
  New Zealand is just about the most difficult country in the world to materially reduce emissions. Every way we could do so is impoverishing. So you get this horrible cognitive dissonance in politicians. For example the most effective way to reduce emissions would be to actively discourage tourists from flying all the way to New Zealand.
  
  Back to electric cars. People will buy them when they offer a superior product at a comparable price to a petrol car. The problem there is that many New Zealanders only have the income to buy a cheap second hand car. The AVERAGE age of New Zealand cars is 14 years and that means that there are many well in excess of 20 years.
  
  I predict that the cognitive dissonance will continue. All is not lost. By 2035 you will see lots of people driving petrol cars manufactured betwen 2020 and 2030. And these cars will be much more fuel efficient than the fleet today.
  
  The second area of hope is methane emissions from cows. GE pastures offer a lot of promise by including an enzyme that cuts out methane. Oh damn no GE allowed in New Zealand.
  
  In summary, far from declaring an emergency we should sit back and relax. If we really want to help reduce global emissions, we could throw a modest amount of money to Mongolia to switch out their coal fired central heating. Cheap and easy emissions reductions.
  
  Maybe the Prime Minister could lobby Australia to switch out its massive coal plants in Queensland, NSW and Victoria to nuclear. That would put a huge dent in Australian emissions.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:45am
Humble Capitalist

If a hard core socialist comrade is sipping cocktails in Rarotonga does that mean the climate emergency is over?
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July 13, 2019 8:21am
- freethinker
  
  If she took broomstick 1 yes.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:13am
- stephieboy
  
  Humble Capitalist, much more preferable it was Hawaii with free use of Sir John’s pad?
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:24am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Stephie what has Sir John got to do with our current champagne socialist flying all over the place during a climate emergency?
    
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    July 13, 2019 12:36pm
alloytoo

Economically the country is beginning to feel ‘GFCish’ but without the steady combination of Key/English, the pessimism appears far greater.
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July 13, 2019 8:23am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  The country is facing break point 30-40 serving at 1-4 in the fifth set with our athletic Minister of Sport about to serve.
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:49am
- atomic drop
  
  All any government has done is slash interest rates, ramp up debt to keep their end of the globalist ponzi scheme upright.
  
  You can hardly blame Princess Jacinda for stumbling into the driver’s seat just as our Globalist overlords have run out of road.
  
  What options are left to save the Boomers property portfolios and annual international cruise ship holiday?
  
  Negative interest rates?
  QE to infinity?
  Moderm Monetary Theory
  Third World Immigration to infinity?
  1st Home Buyers incentives?
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:02am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Throw 8 must read links in and you could be Hugh
    
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    July 13, 2019 9:31am
BrownSnake

I am enjoying the use of Multiple Plastic Bags this morning
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July 13, 2019 8:32am
- sooty
  
  Wanker went on his school holiday trip to Samoa, arived home and started complaining about the legal plastic bags from the dutyfree shop at arivals in Ak airport. Hay dickhead the bags were at the airport when you purchased you dutyfree when you left and in Somoa both ways and you only complain when you get back to Ak dutyfree.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:01am
  - Maxx
    
    Can I just say that this guy can fark off.
    
    Every time I hear crap like this I have to get into my 6L V12 and take her for a nice drive, making sure I wave at people waiting at bus stops for buses that don’t arrive.
    
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    July 13, 2019 11:50am
    - John Warren
      
      Jag? XJ40 or X300? I’ve a Series 3 5.3 litre.
      
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      July 13, 2019 6:13pm
- KiWombat
  
  I now have to buy the same old single use plastic bags in bundles of 500 to do the same thing that the countdown/new world bags used to do for free. In addition, I am doing grocery shopping online, because they pack everything in PAPER bags for me, and they are useful for starting the fire.
  
  But I seem to have noticed that the waste stream now seems to be fuller than ever before with bits of plastic and other packaging? Admittedly, I used to just put these straight into the fire and they were gone, but now put them in a wheelie bin which seems to always be overflowing after a couple of days.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:14am
  - igm
    
    Notice the CoL have done nothing to ban disposable napkins . . . is this because they know their supportive parents are too useless and lazy to use washables!
    I got sick of pulling them out of drains in our road front paddocks . . . never caught any of the dirty scum, not through lack of trying.
    
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    July 13, 2019 9:45am
    - Maxx
      
      Come now, their supporters wouldn’t think to wipe the scum off of their faces.
      
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      July 13, 2019 11:57am
- Ford Prefect
  
  Used one this morning for the redecorating. By covering a paint tray with a plastic bag you dont need to clean it out afterwards. Also, place your brush in a plastic bag and pop it in the fridge. Once again dont need to wash out the brush and can use it again tomorrow.
  
  Not a single use bag!!
  
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  July 13, 2019 11:18am
Nukuleka

If anyone has any doubts about the madness that has been Teresa May’s leadership of the Conservative Party look no further than the recommendations endorsed by her former prisons minister Rory Stewart to give prisoners the keys to their cells as a reward for good behaviour. It’s all a bout ‘positive reinforcement’ and making crims feel better about themselves.

No doubt Andy will be picking up on this bright idea and suggesting it as another way to reduce the numbers in our own prisons.
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July 13, 2019 8:34am
stephieboy

In 1985 BBC witness tells us that the introduction of Tampons into China for the first time revolutionised the lives of women there ( as it did in the West) . Mensuration was up till then a taboo subject forcing women at times to be confined to their homes with only sandpapery toilet paper or old rags available.

Witness History

“China puts tampons on sale”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3csyx23

I don’t think we men can understand what a liberating change Tampons and sanitary pads gave women everywhere.
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July 13, 2019 8:49am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  The women in the mensuration department of the logging company work all through the month.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:23am
  - Ruahine
    
    There are also no kangaroos in Austria Stephie.
    
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    July 14, 2019 12:19pm
- pentwig
  
  you still have your sexual obsession steffie.
  weird!
  Mensuration??
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:29am
  - Tall Man
    
    Best not to engage with steffy girl. There is no point as she is too dumb to learn.
    
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    July 13, 2019 9:45am
  - Ian Hawthorn
    
    Yes indeed. What is this obsession with measurement.
    
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    July 13, 2019 9:52am
- srylands
  
  What the fuck is mensuration?
  
  Oh. You mean menstruation. Yes I guess tampons are useful. Why are you commenting on tampons?
  
  But can I join in? Despite the liberating tampons the eco warriors in New Zealand, are now urging women to switch them to reusable cups. Seriously.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:50am
- MickMac
  
  Stephie
  Good article.
  So do you contribute to the tampon charity here in Wellington?
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:57am
- Swifty
  
  mensuration
  
  the part of geometry concerned with ascertaining lengths, areas, and volumes
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:26am
Notsofast

Foreign Direct Investment and Brexit

“6 Conclusions:
How much additional FDI does a country receive as a consequence of being a member of the EU? This is an obviously important question for which, surprisingly, one still finds very few answers. The objective of this note was to try to redress this gap. Does the use of modern econometric techniques wipe out the EU effect on FDI? We find it surely does not. EU membership robustly increases FDI inflows. Our three main estimates
range between 14% and 38% depending on the choice of econometric technique. The average of these is 28%, which implies that leaving the EU would reduce FDI inflows by around 22%. Our magnitudes are comparable with alternative methodologies. Whichever way the data are cut, Brexit is likely to have the effect of significantly lowering FDI coming to the UK.”

https://www.kenwitsconsultancy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/BREXIT-2016-Policy-Analysis-from-the-Centre-for-Economic-Performance.pdf#page=50

So a guaranteed decline in wealth for all in the UK with Boris Johnson and the idiots backing him.
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July 13, 2019 9:09am
- All_on_Red
  
  How is the UK doing right now?
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:53am
- Ross12
  
  I have posted this before Notsofast but just in case you missed it, here is an analysis of the supposed benefit (ie. there has been no real benefit) of belonging to the customs union. NB. This is the second of two articles. There is a link to the first within this article.
  
  https://brexitcentral.com/pointlessness-eu-customs-union-exposed/
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:04am
- KevO'Brien
  
  But freedom from Brussels.
  Trade will sort itself out but bureaucrats never.
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:35am
The Proper Ghandi

Notsofast
Let’s just assume for a moment that the UK would in fact be economically worse off if they actually implement Brexit (which is not certain at all). What this view conveniently fails to take into account are the main reasons for Brexit: reclaiming national sovereignty (lost to Brussels), and arresting the subversion of British culture flowing from the deliberate cultural degradation we see from the mass influx of, particularly, people from demonstrably failed Islamic states.

So what if there is a (hypothetical) temporary negative impact on the economy? This entirely misses the point. Why do the Remoaners always push this line? Because they cannot advance an argument in relation to the factors I mention above.

Look at how the EU behaves: they are desperate to keep the UK in at any cost, because they are well aware that if the UK gets out, they will be fine and probably prosper. Other nations then will also want to get out, and the dominoes will fall. That will be the end of the proto-Globalist model that the EU exemplifies.
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July 13, 2019 9:39am
- Notsofast
  
  Maybe work within the EU to keep those proclaiming false gods and the right to tell blatant and dangerous lies to their children out of the way. In other words I totally agree with the anti Islam sentiment.
  
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  July 13, 2019 9:49am
- MCos
  
  “mass influx of, particularly, people from demonstrably failed Islamic states.”
  There are no Islamic states in the EU from which a mass influx of citizens can freely enter the UK.
  
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  July 13, 2019 3:28pm
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    MCos
    Once the economic migrants are in Europe, they are effectively in the UK. That is what ‘open borders’ mean, and one reason the UK Brexiteers want to stop it. They are being overrun too quickly, with no time to assimilate, as can occur with more modest and restricted numbers. London is now the ‘knife crime capital of Europe’ due to the huge numbers of people from the Middle East and Africa stabbing each other. Some boroughs have more than 50% immigrant populations. NGO’s are deliberately informing the migrants (they are not refugees) how to make up a sob story claiming that they are persecuted and are in danger in their home countries. They are entering in such a manner and in such numbers because the policy is to let them in to vote for Big Government. Small government is typically a Western idea. If the policy is rescinded, they will stop endangering their children by attempting to get in across the Mediterranean. Lauren Southern, for instance, exposed the scam via covert recordings in her documentary ‘Borderless.’
    
    There is every objective indication that Western nations are in fact experiencing so-called ‘population replacement.’ Western fertility rates are well below the fertility rates of immigrants. Do the maths. It is happening all over the West, and it is the official policy, codified in the UN Migration Pact, which could well become ‘jus cogens’ (i.e. so widely adopted and recognised that it becomes international law). Don’t believe those who claim it will not bind NZ. The existing populace are encouraged to shut up and accept it as inevitable.
    
    As of 2018 there at least 1.4 million migrants in Germany alone:
    https://www.statista.com/chart/14494/germany-is-home-to-the-most-refugees/
    
    The most popular name for new babies in the UK is Muhammed:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/baby-names-popular-uk-babycentre-2019-olivia-muhammed-a8974461.html
    
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    July 13, 2019 4:51pm
Sofia

Golriz Ghahraman, again

“My experience as a child asylum seeker has instilled in me a deep commitment to defending democratic institutions and the most vulnerable members of our community,” she said in a statement announcing her candidacy” – Golriz Ghahraman

“It was amazing. They were much more concerned if we had fruit products on us. The next question was ‘are you hungry and do you have somewhere to go?‘ “ – also Golriz Ghahraman

Apart from the general repression the Iran regime, the mother’s refusal to comply with Islamic requirements regarding a chosen occupation, may have possibly endangered the family were attention drawn to it. Another type of work may have been an answer?.

Also, applying for New Zealand to take them, would automatically draw attention to them, in the sense you may not be an asylum seeker, until you apply for asylum.

Originally from the Shia holy city of Mashhad in north-eastern Iran, near the Afghanistan border, her family fled in 1990 when she was just nine years old having experienced the extreme repression in the country at the time aimed mostly at women and minorities.

They headed to Malaysia and from there bought tickets to Fiji, that did not require a visa, that included a stopover in Auckland where relatives had previously won asylum.

When they landed they sought – and were granted – asylum as political refugees here.
She said the her family did not have to jump through hoops to stay and were made welcome.

“It was amazing. They were much more concerned if we had fruit products on us. The next question was ‘are you hungry and do you have somewhere to go?‘ “.

Her father was Shia and an agricultural engineer and her mother was a Kurdish Sunni child psychologist – although she never worked because she refused to take the required Islamic exams. Both are now retired.

They set up a restaurant and a gift shop on Mt Eden Rd, but never worked in their areas of expertise.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88498722/green-lawyer-hopes-to-be-first-refugee-to-win-a-seat-in-parliament

However, with some family are already here, your parents get off the plane in Auckland and ask if they can stay to.
Is that a refugee or an immigrant?

First Family Reunification Member of Parliament?
Doesn’t quite resonate the same, nor the victim-appeal of First Refugee Member

Golriz Ghahraman’s current mistake in suggesting Jesus and his Jewish family were actually Palestinian refugees, is perhaps easy enough to make.
Ilhan Omar, Omar Suleiman, a New York Times op-ed, and Linda Sarsour all suffer the same miscomprehension.
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July 13, 2019 9:47am
- Swifty
  
  Yes, it seems a lot of them are at it:
  
  https://www.jpost.com/International/Was-Jesus-a-Palestinian-and-why-would-Congresswoman-Ilhan-Omar-care-587749
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:47am
- toby1845
  
  I’ve said it before, here and elsewhere (and to GG herself, via email) — she is not the first refugee to serve in our parliament. A number of Maori MPS were refugees, and arguably (using the modern definition of a refugee) virtually all the Pakeha MPs were refugees as well.
  
  And one of our early Premiers, Sir Julius Vogel, was a refugee from anti-semetic persecution.
  
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  July 13, 2019 12:02pm
  - srylands
    
    The thing is that refugees don’t usually play up the refugee card. And they certainly don’t have a Facebook page that trumpets their status as a refugee.
    
    I had a friend who I had known for a couple of years before I found out from her father that the family had fled Poland in 1986 before the fall of communism. He had pissed off the government and his story of the escape was harrowing. My friend simply presents herself as a New Zealander with Polish heritage.
    
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    July 13, 2019 12:37pm
    - Jack5
      
      Toby1845 says:
      
      One of our early Premiers, Sir Julius Vogel, was a refugee from anti-semetic persecution.
      
      No he wasn’t. Vogel was born in London into a middle-class Jewish family. He, his sister, and his mother, were not Orthodox Jews, but, the father having left them, they lived with Vogel’s maternal grandfather, who was Orthodox.
      
      Vogel studied mining engineering and, still teenager, was drawn to Australia by the gold rushes. After nine years in Victoria, he joined the gold rush to Otago.
      
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      July 13, 2019 1:10pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Sofia
  When she arrived in Malaysia (assuming that was the first stop), she was a ‘refugee.’ After that, she was an immigrant.
  
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  July 13, 2019 5:29pm
John Warren

Will DPF do a post on the grotesquely overpaid trougher the Christchurch city council is importing from Birmingham?
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July 13, 2019 9:54am
- herb1
  
  heard from a local councillor that the reason Dalziel pushed this through, against accepted norms , is her fear of losing control after the election.
  A number of Labour councillors face opposition.
  by hiring this lady Dalziel can lose control of the council but still push her policies through the bureaucracy with the new CEO a fellow traveller.
  
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  July 13, 2019 12:33pm
- srylands
  
  Who is that?
  
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  July 13, 2019 12:38pm
dubya

Ron Mark making noise about Military base operations and moving some. Here’s an idea, instead of his his party’s
insistence on moving Auckland’s port to Northland, why not move the Devonport Navy base up there?
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July 13, 2019 10:20am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Excellent idea dubya, the sooner the better.
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:44am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Old news, been reviewed at least 3 times to my knowledge. Issues are:
  
  1. Great port, no doubt
  2. no facilities at all, would need to build a base from scratch, including dry dock
  3. Navy staff and families don’t want to go, so will make it as painful and expensive as possible (cf Airforce move to Ohakea).
  4 Devonport is the only facility in NZ with a Resource consent to load explosives, good luck getting one anywhere else, ever under the RMA.
  
  Other than that and a lazy 2-3 billion, its a great idea.
  
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  July 13, 2019 1:28pm
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    2-3 $billion……No trouble Winston/Shane’s slush fund.
    
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    July 13, 2019 3:22pm
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    The dry dock argument doesn’t work – the current one is too small and they need a new one anyway. May as well be at Marsden Point.
    And it could also be used for the inter-island ferries so they wouldn’t have to go to Singapore any more.
    
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    July 13, 2019 5:19pm
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  In the mentions.
  
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  July 13, 2019 8:10pm
stephieboy

All on Red,

you can’t serve two masters,

https://time.com/5622374/donald-trump-climate-change-hoax-event/?utm_source=time.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-brief&utm_content=2019070911am&xid=newsletter-brief
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July 13, 2019 10:25am
Maggie Pie

One of the girls i work with was originally from Christchurch. She was telling us last night that her parents have seen their Fire Insurance premium triple over the last 4 years.
It’s almost at the stage where its getting unaffordable for a lot of people living there.
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July 13, 2019 10:26am
- sooty
  
  Why does CC have a shit firemain system?
  Mind you an earthguake would probably stuff the firemain and with no water the firemen are stuffed!
  
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  July 13, 2019 10:52am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I hate those people who knock on your door and tell you how you need to be “saved” or you’ll “burn”. Stupid firemen.
    
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    July 13, 2019 11:17am
Swifty

What utter horseshit:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/114065122/the-all-blacks-and-the-pascha-guru

“I have been the channel for a Persian Magi for the past 32 years.”

What does it say about us that so many still fall for this tripe.
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July 13, 2019 10:41am
srylands

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/394252/tobacco-company-targeting-maori-for-money-minister

This is such a good example of faulty thinking. So a tobacco company is promoting e cigarettes to Maori. Company points out that they do less harm. Minister is outraged. Company is evil. Wants to make money. Must be stopped.

Of course the company wants to make money. But that is not inconsistent with reducing harm for Maori tobacco addicts. Market economies deliver welfare improvements via profit maximisation.

I know in itself this is not a big issue. But the Minister has announced that she wants to “regulate” vaping and e cigarettes to protect people from tobacco companies. Who needs protecting? IIRC the numbers of young people taking up vaping are miniscule.
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July 13, 2019 10:59am
toby1845

A bigot, a liar, a racist and an anti-semite walked into Bellamy’s.

The barman says: “Good evening, Ms Ghahraman. The usual?”
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July 13, 2019 11:52am
Batman

https://twitter.com/grantrobertson1/status/1149835954951081986

So the sports Minister is off the final, but he is paying for it himself. Good on him.

Personally I would be too if I had a lazy 5k lying around!
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July 13, 2019 12:44pm
Monique Watson

Look what Brainiac came up with:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/reefer-madness-has-held-up-medicinal-cannabis-chloe-swarbrick.html

They start their troughing young these days.
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July 13, 2019 1:52pm
Tall Man

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/captain-james-cook-statue-vandalised-with-the-words-thief-pakeha-in-gisborne/

“Tear it down and put up a statue of our ancestor Paikea and Porourangi,” one person wrote.

Before or after they were the main course?
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July 13, 2019 2:09pm
Greg Ettridge

Interesting to look at politicians expenses and new creative accounting.
https://www.parliament.nz/en/mps-and-electorates/mps-expenses/members-expense-disclosure-from-1-january-to-31-march-2017/

Back in first quarter 2017, there were just a handful reporting no expenses.
I guess this can happen, particularly politicians living in Wellington. Sub total was Wellington $417,536 non Wellington $78,775, air $566,563, surface 423,739, sub total $1,476614, clerks office $117,796

Rules changed with new government, have a look at first quarter 2019
There are 26 politicians reporting zero.
How can this be accurate, non Wellington politicians reporting no expenses.
Total comes out around the same but no expenses listed for the many many politicians.
https://www.parliament.nz/en/mps-and-electorates/mps-expenses/members-expense-disclosure-from-1-january-to-31-march-2019/

NZ First, Greens, and Labour own all 24 zero spenders.
All national politicians have some expense.

You can call me a cynical old so and so, but I find it hard to believe most of these would have some expenses.
So from the start of this COL, the figures are just total bullshit and irrelevant.
There now a column for VIP Travel, the only reported travel in the period is Simon Bridges $7,711, Anne Tolley $2,584, appears no one else used VIP travel apart from The speaker reporting 2 x$45 and $491 over 9 months.
So Bridges, Tolley and Mallard are the only ones to utilise VIP Travel.
This would have to the best creative accounting known to man.
Does Julie Anne Genter ride her push bike from Auckland and sleep in a cardboard box in Wellington and eat mung beans she has begged for.
Four others greens appear give there service FOC
So 5 out of 8 greens have no expenses.
And hit me with a feather, 5 out of 8 NZ first have zero expenses.
This creative accounting has been going on since just after change of government.
No wonder Simon Bridges looks bad, just in NZ first and Greens their would millions going unreported.
Please tell me why I am wrong, if this is legal reporting, the country is doomed.
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- Straight arrow
  
  Ministers are covered under a different list.
  https://www.dia.govt.nz/Ministers-expense-releases?OpenDocument
  One is parliamentary services (I think), one is internal affairs.
  
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  July 13, 2019 6:03pm
Fletch

Look at this b!tch will you? AOC tries to question former ICE director Thomas Homan about family separation of illegal migrants. She acts like she is Perry Mason solving a big case, presenting evidence and whatnot but comes across as a silly little girl who doesn’t know a damn thing. He sets her straight. If you don’t come in through an official port of entry to ask for asylum, you are breaking the law. FFS how can she not get that through her thick head?

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1149776899104759808/video/1
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July 13, 2019 6:45pm
wreck1080

Laurel Hubbard just won gold in the pacific games weight lifting .

Again making an absolute mockery of the sport — whoever thought it would be a good idea to allow males to compete against females in weightlifting?

I get that Hubbard identifies as female … that is just fine, but don’t expect to compete against females without bringing the sport into disrepute!

Hubbard is stealing the medal from genuine female opponents.
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July 13, 2019 7:33pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Dick’s dickless wonder. Like it’s father’s cereal, it’s a fruit basket with shredded nuts.
  
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  July 14, 2019 2:39am
Monique Watson

You know? All that tax and spend by the Labour Government making cars more expensive for Kiwis and worldwide no real effect on polluters:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_radioactivity_increase_in_Europe_in_autumn_2017

Maybe Swarbrick wants to send some of the troops that way to stop the nasty wasty Russian polluters.

The hubris among our Young Socialists is so palpable yet they have so little effect apart from making New Zealand poor again.
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