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Happy World Vitiligo Day!
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June 25, 2019 8:02am
- MCos
  
  Happy National Superannuation Money Day
  People try to put us d-down
  I’m just talkin’ ’bout my g-g-g-generation
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:01am
- Jack5
  
  Milky, you world anniversary day choices have become patchy.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:15am
KevO'Brien

I like it. I sense the biggest route of our so called govt in many years. Even the worms are keeping their heads below ground lest a seagull bite them off.
☑️ ☑️
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June 25, 2019 8:07am
freethinker

If TVNZ reported it coorectly and I have understand it our coalition of clowns have announced a Govt Gtee scheme for Bank deposits between $30 and $50000. So does this mean a deposit of$29999 is not covered and one of $60000 is either not covered or just the $20,000 between???????? Sounds like another policy from the Committee on stoopidity set up to fuck ther NZ economy.
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June 25, 2019 8:07am
- oldgolfer
  
  Aye, and expect depositors to pay via a bank levy.
  So generous of the half-wit Robertson to protect (some) money by imposing a levy, the cost of which will no doubt be passed to consumers.
  What is it with the government (my lower case g, it does not deserve an upper case) and banks?
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:17am
- Paulus
  
  As my wife and I hold Bank deposits in both our names are we then each covered under this scheme ?
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:36am
- MCos
  
  I’m not sure what you want?
  
  For a start if one of the the big banks eg ANZ collapses, the fallout would be catastrophic.
  If that was to happen are you expecting the nanny state to turn around and fork out taxpayers money for all deposits as they did with South Canterbury Finance because whatever levy the banks will be charged beforehand sure ain’t going to cover the outgoings?
  From what I understand the idea is that clients won’t be left stone cold broke and unable to put sausages on the table.
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:38am
  - hullkiwi
    
    MCos, the state picks up the tab on these schemes, as the banks do not have the reserves to cover the collapse of a bank as almost happened in the UK in 2008.
    
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    June 25, 2019 8:44am
  - freethinker
    
    You completely miss the point which is what does the Gtee actually cover – Australia covers $250,000 per institution per depositor, the UK 80,000 pounds so covering 30-50,000 seems at best confusing and at worst typical of the r soles in the media or Govt.
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:11am
    - MCos
      
      You mean me and Grant Robertson miss the point . . . . .
      
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      June 25, 2019 10:07am
      - MickMac
        
        YES
        
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        June 25, 2019 1:28pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Sounds nice but someone will have to pay for it. Just because the government charges the banks a levy does not mean the bank will end up worse off. Who exactly does really pay for it will depend on elasticity of demand. But I suspect most of the cost will flow through to higher interest rates for borrowers and therefore make housing even less affordable.
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:39am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Any levy the Gumint charges the Banks will be doubled and added to the customers fees.
    
    I am both a depositor and a shareholder in the major Banks.
    
    Its called covering the bases. I cant lose any way.
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:30am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      The bank can choose how and if it recovers the fees. I think depositors have alternative investment choices so the bank won’t want to charge them fees or reduce deposit rates. Whereas the alternatives for home loan borrowers are few or none. So the borrowers are more likely to end up paying in the form of higher interest rates.
      
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      June 25, 2019 10:21am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Probably a combination of lower returns to lenders and a marginally higher rate on borrowers.
    
    And there’s nothing wrong with this, in fact I understood this to already be the case in NZ as it is in many locations overseas. If the government is to guarantee deposits up to some limit then it seems entirely fair to me that as a form of insurance, it is chargeable to those who stand to benefit. As long as the fee/margin is reasonable there should be little to dispute. I do agree that as an imposed burden the cost is at least likely to be inflated. A voluntary scheme would probably have a low takeup but would enable competition to at least attempt to keep a lid on the rates.
    
    Of course such insurance is only valuable if the organization offering the insurance is itself sufficiently capable of paying out. The 2008 “financial crisis” was in part triggered when AIG (I think it was) who had insured large quantities of mortgage backed securities found itself unable to meet the claims being made when those loans turned bad.
    
    Given the magnitude of payouts if a major bank went bust, government mediated insurance may not be an all bad idea.
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:47am
- peterwn
  
  The trouble with such schemes is it will encourage banks to take more risk with customers’ money knowing that nanny state will bail customers out – this is called ‘moral hazard’.
  By the way has IRD put a tax inspector on the job to ensure ANZ is paying fringe benefit tax on wine cellar payments and a house sold for a low ball price.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:33am
- chwaga
  
  No Grant says he has not made up his mind on the amount. It will be somewhere between $30,000 & $50,000 but they will consult before they set the figure.
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:48am
G152

Why do our fake news organisations have their ‘special’ commenters on hand to bolster the crap they turn out.
Never a disagreement, nary a cross word in their soy milk society.
But say anything that doesn’t fit with their world view and you’re a neo nazi, an ultra right something or other.
No matter if you’re correct…
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June 25, 2019 8:07am
- sooty
  
  Because the public willn ot just crap.
  It’s got to be crap ladled out by special people!
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:28am
Happychappy

Another example of the Coalition bending the rules and law to satisfy their voter base, at the risk of harming children.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/06/duncan-garner-government-s-smoking-in-cars-with-kids-ban-an-utter-disappointment.html
These idiots couldn’t run a piss up at a brewery.
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June 25, 2019 8:08am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Garner is just an unthinking blowhard. There’s nothing wrong with exceptions for vehicles that are not moving, because people can leave or open a door, or when the person under 18 is the smoker, because being exposed to passive smoking is hardly their biggest problem in that case.
  
  Surprised to see 23-0 on Kiwiblog for more nanny state not less.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:39am
  - Tall Man
    
    You are missing the point.
    
    It is the stupidity of the legislation and the morons proposing it that is the issue.
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:57am
Im Right

I see the PM on the AM show trying to cover the fact that smoking in cars is banned (if under 18yr olds are in the car) but if you live in your car it’s fine…I would have asked her how many people are living in cars Jacinda? You seemed to have the numbers almost daily, certainly weekly in lead up to the last election, what is the number now after a year and a half of you in charge, or is this another ‘target’ you have dropped that will make you look like a hypocrite?!
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June 25, 2019 8:12am
- Tony Stuart
  
  How could you suggest such a thing IR? The PM told us solemnly before last winter that no one need sleep in cars or sleep rough. Surely you’re not suggesting we were misled…
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:25am
- Inandout
  
  Im Right, livin’ in cars smelling the smoke….
  
  ‘Grew up in rusty shack
  All I had was hangin’ on my back
  Only you know how I loathe
  This place called Tobacco Road’
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:36am
Happychappy

You would think that getting tracks, tunnels and the maintenance of the system fixed and up and running before you spent Billions would help.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/392851/kiwirail-spend-hundreds-of-new-locomotives-and-wagons
But I guess when Winston,Shane and Robertson are in charge anything goes.
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June 25, 2019 8:15am
- hullkiwi
  
  Happychappy, you are correct. But where are the photo opportunities when you standing on newly laid track north of Waikikamookau versus standing in front of new locomotives and nes rolling stock?
  
  But, the question begs, has anyone told Shane and Winston how long it will take to get the new locomotives and rolling stock delivered? Sorry, but it will not be this side of the next election, oh dear!
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:31am
- Tony Stuart
  
  On Twitter, a journalist has pointed out that this is not a new announcement, but merely a rehash of what was announced with some fanfare before and at the Budget.
  
  The public can see past this turd-polishing though. A Newshub poll asking whether the government is doing a “mainly good” or “mainly bad” job is running 79-21% in favour of “mainly bad”.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2019/06/poll-do-you-think-the-government-is-doing-a-mostly-good-job-or-a-mostly-bad-job.html
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:33am
  - sooty
    
    Most corupt government in NZs history!
    Worst PM ever!
    She’s useless!
    
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    June 25, 2019 8:49am
    - pdm
      
      Sooty have you seen the sky aust clip showing her scarpering from the lecturn when the questions got difficult at yesterdays press conference.
      
      Says it all about her really.
      
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      June 25, 2019 10:59am
    - BrownSnake
      
      Stop insulting useless people they have feelings ok
      and do not like being compared to people who are worse than useless.
      
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      June 26, 2019 1:02am
Maggie Pie

KTH tweeted me with details on this NEW BBC COMEDY.
Looking at the promo O.M.G. – lets hope we get to see it here! As my partner said, “A right royal piss take as only the poms know how”.
Check out the comments – Absolutely Hilarious 🙂

https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1142759061915668481
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June 25, 2019 8:17am
- Sacha
  
  I don’t do twitter.
  The people who post stuff like that are awful, and the commenters re indescribably so.
  People who haunt public media with their low-life opinions have nothing to recommend them, and should be ignored.
  
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  June 25, 2019 1:05pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    WOW – you may need to get out more Sach 🙂
    I do FB, Instagram, Twitter, even dabble on Tinder.
    You’d be amazed at the number of new friends you can make!!
    
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    June 25, 2019 5:12pm
  - greybeard
    
    Must admit I agree with you.
    The so-called ‘social media’ should be renamed to ‘antisocial media’.
    
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    June 25, 2019 7:08pm
MCos

This woman will be condemned to eternal damnation if Israel Falou has anything to do with it
https://twitter.com/ilhanmn/status/1143168166190866433?s=21
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June 25, 2019 8:20am
- All_on_Red
  
  Because she married her Brother?
  Meanwhile… she was asked to comment on AOCs comment about Border facilities being ‘Concentration Camps’
  
  “There are camps and people are being concentrated,” Omar said Friday. “This is very simple. I don’t even know why this is a controversial thing for her (AOC) to say. We have to really truthfully speak about what’s taking place.”
  Video in the link
  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/22/rep_ilhan_omar_defends_aoc_there_are_camps_and_people_are_being_concentrated.html
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:57am
  - SGA
    
    I’m not sure what the issue is here. From memory, the term started when the British used concentration camps during the Boer war to make it difficult for the Boers to get support from their communities.
    
    Add: Just looked it up
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/concentration-camp
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:34am
  - MCos
    
    Talking about something like this?
    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/d3njvj/300-migrant-kids-removed-from-filthy-crowded-texas-border-patrol-station?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:54am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Well no.
      They aren’t gassing the children and putting them in ovens.
      The crisis on the Border sure is a major problem with gangs now deliberatly using children to get access to the US.
      Around 140,000 people a month are coming across. They can’t cope.
      Of course this has all increased since the Dems got control of Congress. They could easily change the Law regarding repatriation to remove the incentive but they won’t do it.
      So the blood is on their hands.
      Trumps deal with Mexico seems to help but really the Law needs to change so illegals get sent back immediately.
      Pretty bad situation but no, it’s not concentration camps as most would view the expression. Iirc it costs around Eight hundred a night to house them.
      
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      June 25, 2019 11:00am
      - MCos
        
        Of course there’re not gassing the children.
        However that’s not a prerequisite for a concentration came, which has a much broader definition than those used by Germany to exterminate Jews.
        The rest of your spiel, which may or may not be a beat up, is no justification to treat the kids as they have.
        Well, it may be to you. I don’t know.
        
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        June 25, 2019 12:01pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        They aren’t gassing the children and putting them in ovens
        
        That’s fine, then.
        Meanwhile, the government’s lawyers are reduced to arguing that ‘safe and sanitary’ conditions for detained children don’t need to include blankets or soap.
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/21/detained-migrant-children-no-toothbrush-soap-sleep/?utm_term=.7467c30ad371
        
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        June 25, 2019 12:58pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Oh come on. It’s dumb to compare the detention centres to “Concentration Camps”
        You’re dancing on the head of a pin with that one.
        They’re coming voluntarily yet afaik no one went to a Concentration Camp voluntarily.
        Sure they’re very overloaded now but the reality is usually Healthcare, schooling, food, clothing is all provided. Serious diseases are being treated. They’re processed then released. Except for the criminals and terrorists they find.
        140,000 people a month…
        It’s costing billions and billions.
        Your lack of condemnation of the Democrats doing nothing indicates that you’re the one who doesn’t care. Pretty sad not caring about the women and female children being raped by cartel members when they cross. Children being used multiple times by Cartels to do the crossing. The deaths which occur.
        I guess you didn’t care when people were drowning trying to get to Australia either. They changed the law and stopped it.
        Btw, the illegals don’t have to come. They could apply for asylum in Mexico.
        
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        June 25, 2019 2:13pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You’re the one telling everyone it’s not dire because the children aren’t being deliberately murdered by the US government.
        Their political system is almost terminally sceloritic, and claiming that particular issues can’t be addressed because one party no longer controls the presidency, supreme court, senate and house seems to me to be rather over-wrought.
        
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        June 25, 2019 2:54pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        No, but the situation at the US southern border does require addressing. Over 100,000 people a month are attempting to cross it into the USA and under the law as it stands they can’t simply be expelled if they do cross the border. The choices are to put them somewhere under control like an ex-army camp (BTW just like Obama did, when apparently it wasn’t a problem) or simply to let them come in as they will. Could the US cope with the millions who would come if they could just walk in and get welfare, medical care (see California’s recent announcement re “free” Medicaid to all illegals).
        
        This is continuing because the Democrats hate the USA and they hate Donald Trump and so are prepared to destroy their nation in order to satisfy their petulant whims.
        
        The solutions would seem fairly obvious; build a wall as fast as possible, deport anyone illegal and make anyone wishing for asylum apply at an embassy in their country or if they insist on illegally crossing the border, to be interned until their status is determined. The wall is going up but not fast enough, and the many millions already in the country cannot easily be expelled.
        
        This will be a millstone around the Democrats neck at the next election except for places like California and other “blue” states where the illegals will be enrolled and enabled to vote in sufficient numbers to compensate for the loss of actual legal citizen voters.
        
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        June 25, 2019 4:06pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Well there is that whole marrying her brother thing – that all Abrahamic religions tend to stone people for, and is universally banned (for sound genetic reasons).
  
  The fraud she perpetrated looks like it may catch up to her:
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:59am
  - MCos
    
    Whether she married her brother or not depends on what you want to believe more than any factual evidence
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:11am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      If she married her brother, surely there would be documented evidence somewhere.
      
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      June 25, 2019 10:50am
      - All_on_Red
        
        There’s a report due this week from a group of Investigative Journalists about it- specifically if she committed immigration fraud to get in to the US.
        She’s also in trouble for filing false Tax Returns.
        
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        June 25, 2019 11:03am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        The thing I find surprising is that there is prima-facie more than enough evidence of immigration fraud to warrant official investigation: That she was living with her children’s father the whole time she was married to her brother, that she perjured herself about not seeing him since 2011 when there are social media logs of them chatting in 2013 and photos of them together in 2014, that school records suggest they are siblings, that he calls her kids nieces and nephews, and they call him uncle.
        
        Yet still no official investigation. More evidence of two-tier justice system. One for little people/non democrats and one for the connected?
        
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        June 25, 2019 1:12pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Snopes being in the tank for Democrats rather invalidates any conclusion they may come to – the evidence that IO did in fact “marry” her brother and lied about it in statutory declarations seems pretty clear. She also claims not to have been able to contact him despite the fact that the person has an active facebook page under his own name, and is in business with IO’s sister in Nairobi, Kenya.
      
      Also, that IO claimed tax rebates on two “partnerships” simultaneously does tend to imply illegality.
      
      But she’s a Democrat, so different rules apply – the MSM may NOT report on these facts (except to disparage anyone making them) and the falsity of any accusations must be assumed from the start.
      
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      June 25, 2019 11:03am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Didn’t know snopes was still going. Have the owners sorted out who gets the cats from their divorce?
      
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      June 25, 2019 11:04am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, Snopes is much, much more preferable to this kind of far-right inanity,
        
        https://taskandpurpose.com/tucker-carlson-metric-system-military.
        
        Just in case let me reassure you that metrics is not some symbol of tyranny!
        
        LOL!
        
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        June 25, 2019 2:10pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Well it does appear she is working very hard on pretending she hasn’t known where her brother/ex-husband is for many years, even though it has just been discovered that he has been working with their sister quite recently on web development in Kenya. Why lie if there is nothing to hide?
      
      https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/06/24/hidden-clue-on-website-belonging-to-ilhan-omars-sister-adds-to-evidence-about-marriage-history/
      
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      June 25, 2019 12:23pm
- John Warren
  
  Did I miss something, or did all the condemnation of Folau’s infamous tweet seem to be on behalf of homosexuals?
  
  As far as I’ve seen, drunks, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, and idolaters have had nobody outraged on their behalf, and I presume are still going to Hell.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:06am
  - Deadly pony
    
    Quite right. As a drunken fornicator I managed to shrug it off.
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:53am
  - MCos
    
    It’s a mean old world
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:15am
- Inandout
  
  That woman is a fraud and if one could read her mind, what a tale it would tell. Her religion tells a different story.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:39am
- White Anglo Saxon Protestant
  
  Well, more like if God has anything to do with it.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:39am
  - MCos
    
    https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1143267271193661442?s=21
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:59am
- Im Right
  
  Ahhh McCos, she is a Muslim senator, can someone please ask her in an interview ‘Do you believe homosexuality is against Islam, and homosexuals should be sentenced to death?’…..that always stops the Muslims that are trying to show ‘inclusion/diversity’ up as they almost always have to say YES, otherwise they are talking against the precious Koran.
  Do you think she would say no or yes McCos, or as I suspect, it’s never a question she would ever be asked by the leftie media, who are happy to cover her pretend joy in being surrounded by gay men and women
  
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  June 25, 2019 12:26pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Gee, religious tests? Next some cute journalist will be asking the president whether he supports the sixth commandment.
    
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    June 25, 2019 3:03pm
  - MCos
    
    If you do a three second google search you’ll find all sorts of information; including this conclusive answer to your question.
    https://www.ilhanomar.com/lgbtqia
    Being as you are an expert on all things Islam this must come as a shock as do all the Christians who defy the Bible and don’t condemn homosexuals to eternal damnation.
    BTW
    She’s not a Senator
    
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    June 25, 2019 3:26pm
hullkiwi

RNZ and Louisa Wall do another hit job on the Folau’s.

This time questioning Wall (a former Silver Fern netballer) as to whether Maria Folau is “guilty by association”.

In the words of Wall she is, because she is the wife of Folau, but it is “ok for Maria to play for the Silver Ferns”, because Netball NZ have not spelt out protocols to Maria as to what she can and cannot say.

This was after Wall had been questioned about the closing of the “Go Fundme” page. Once again there was a heavy dose of hypocrisy from Wall, about how Folau was using it to defend his homophobic rants. For the benefit of Wall and others in the world of alphabet soup, no it is not!

Louisa Wall and others in the modern PC world, confirm Wayne Mapp’s views as posted in uesterday’s GD. Democracy and free speech face a new threat of this PC group think and denying people the right to express opinions that are counter to the person claiming that such views are hatred and must be stopped.

What is frightening is the levels of hypocrisy that such people resort to, to support their arguments.
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June 25, 2019 8:21am
- Yvette
  
  Where are any of the Christian Churches in relation to this issue?
  
  Are they OK with the fact that the “text” – the graphic which claims Hell Awaits those who sin – is a misquote of the Bible, or would correcting that, and trying to explain the original, screw up all the work done to accomodate Rainbow adherents?
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:59am
  - rangitoto
    
    I would wager that the vast majority of Moslems would agree with Folau’s tweets. I wonder what would have happened if SBW has tweeted something similar.
    
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    June 25, 2019 11:08am
hullkiwi

PriNZess has as good as signalled that Ywitford is as good as safe in this week’s reshuffle. The logic being that he is attempting to implement an ambitious housing programme and no one person should carry the can (RNZ 25/06/19.
So, in the year of delivery, no body is too be held responsible for an epic fail and the squandering of taxpayer’s money!
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June 25, 2019 8:24am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Twyford is safe in the housing portfolio simply because nobody in their right mind would take on the clusterfuck of a role it has become….
  
  I am assuming that everyone in the COL is in their right mind at this stage, so perhaps we should watch this space….
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:28am
artemisia

A win for the union – maybe. I predict unintended consequences as, for example, no job offer for applicants with no experience. Why would an employer hire them, especially if the 90 day period does not apply (as in this case).

And The Treasury reported a while back that the main beneficiaries of the ‘living wage’ are young single workers and government coffers (increased tax take, reduced transfers).

Retail NZ says that the Employment Relations Authority has set wage rates above local market levels in a case between First Union and Jack’s Hardware Ltd of Dunedin….
“The Authority has ordered that the minimum rate to be paid for staff with no experience will be $19 an hour, $1.30 an hour more than the legal minimum wage, and $1 more than the median wage paid for entry level sales staff in heartland South Island regions.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1906/S00610/era-decision-sets-wage-rates-above-market-levels.htm
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June 25, 2019 8:26am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The COL is going to cause wage turmoil throughout NZ.
  When stupidity reigns revolutions in the air.
  ☑️ ☑️
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:15am
- Piniwi
  
  But artemisia @ 8.26 am this could be the start of something big. Especially as only 4.3% of the two stores are union members which raises questions about the ERA workings. Interesting the unions only singled out just 2 stores in such a region like this after artificially increased minimum wages have yet to effect employment levels. Now we await the mandatory unintended consequences to appear.
  
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  June 25, 2019 1:30pm
JibberJabber

Newshub LoLs this morning,
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2019/06/poll-do-you-think-the-government-is-doing-a-mostly-good-job-or-a-mostly-bad-job.html
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June 25, 2019 8:27am
- Colville
  
  79% bad to 21% good when I visited.
  
  and that is on the “so left to be horizontal” NewsHub!
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:39am
  - igm
    
    It is a wonder the union has not ordered Newshub to remove the poll.
    When are they going to run a poll on acceptance/non-acceptance of immigrants of Islam origin?
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:02am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Now up to 80:20 ! Keep up the good work Jacinda !
    
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    June 25, 2019 11:05am
Poppa

So apparently the PM thinks our Phil is doing a great job with housing

Dear God I would hate to see it when she admits it is bad!
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June 25, 2019 8:27am
- cmm
  
  Commie rule #1: Never admit any failure.
  
  Drive past a 200 metre long bread queue and the commie comment will be “That bakery seems very popular. They should share their recipe with other bakeries.”
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:34am
  - MCos
    
    You can expand that rule to just about any politician that’s ever walked this earth.
    It’s only after they’ve given the game away that some of them admit they may have been on the wrong track.
    
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    June 25, 2019 8:53am
    - MCos
      
      I see some people think some politicians admit failure.
      
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      June 25, 2019 12:06pm
      - Ross12
        
        One recent example for you MCos.
        President Trump said a few days back his biggest mistake was appointing Jeff Sessions as AG.
        
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        June 25, 2019 3:11pm
- Tall Man
  
  “apparently the PM thinks”
  
  I don’t think so Poppa……
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:23am
  - stephieboy
    
    Tall Man, the PM thinks? An oxymoron coming from you and your associates!
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:10am
    - tf78
      
      Accidental uptick there.
      
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      June 25, 2019 10:54am
    - Tall Man
      
      Another day with dumb steffy girl with another nonsensical comment.
      
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      June 25, 2019 3:20pm
sooty

PriNZess Cindy is backing Phill Twyford to the hilt and is keeping him in the position of Kiwibuild minister. She said that’s our flagship policy, suck it up buttercup! If you go down, we all go down!
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June 25, 2019 8:33am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Sure. As long as people keep blaming Twyford she is happy. The alternative is they blame her because the Kiwibuild policy was always a fraud and nobody could make it work. I’d guess she will replace him in a year or so, when there won’t be time before the next election for people to see that his replacement made no difference.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:00am
  - Paulus
    
    Yes, keep Twyford as a Senior Minister he is the best advert for Labour in the next election.
    
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    June 25, 2019 1:48pm
- Yvette
  
  Kiwibuild: flagship policy – as in Titanic ?
  
  The completed build outputs for the top 11 home building companies in NZ for the year ending April 2019, the total number of new houses 4,996. Obviously, there are other smaller companies also building houses.
  
  If the top 11 can only build 5,000 homes in a year, where on earth did Labour think that they were going to get the workers to add an extra 10,000 per year over and above what the private sector was building?
  
  And a point not mentioned –
  Of average values for the top 11 home building companies, year ending April 2019, only two ($410,162 and $402,466) were above $400,000.
  
  So why was the Kiwibuild range $550,000 to $650,000?
  
  Table : Annual build numbers year to April 2019 – https://www.whaleoil.net.nz/2019/06/10000-new-homes-per-year/
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:03am
hullkiwi

Is there no limit to Winston’s desire for utu and the spite he utters? Last night on Q&A his target was John Key. Citing that Key has a conflict of interest because he is Chair of ANZ (NZ) Ltd and sits on the board of ANZ (Aust) Ltd.

What arrant nonsense, as Chair of ANZ (NZ) it is only natural that he is on the board of the parent company.

Peters is a menace consumed by itu and spite. When will someone rid us of this meddlesome “Preist”?
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June 25, 2019 8:38am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The coalition’s Minister for bullshitting and lovely horses The most essential and heavily leaned upon support role in their cabinet.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:05am
- Happychappy
  
  Don’t be in any doubt Jacinda, Winston and Grant want to blacken the John Key name and will go to any length to achieve it. The problem they have is John Key has more brains than the three put together and will have the full support of ANZ Boss’s.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:27am
- G152
  
  Only to be expected.
  Anti Key and 9 years of neglect.
  They have nothing else
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:41am
- Inandout
  
  hullkiwi, if Key was really nasty he could sink Peters overnight, but he is not a nasty person.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:42am
- rangitoto
  
  As an ANZ Bank shareholder and customer, I’m happy with SJK being on the board of ANZ and its NZ subsidiary. As an NZ voter I am not at all happy with WP and his position in the NZ ruling junta.
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:13am
Happychappy

If Jacinda is not prepared to hold people account to on kiwibuild ,fraud charges should be layed over the outright lies she and Twyford told to secure votes , this has been a fraud since day one.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/392853/pm-defends-housing-minister-phil-twyford-over-kiwibuild-ahead-of-reshuffle
A weak out of her depth Prime Minister.
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June 25, 2019 8:41am
- sooty
  
  Cindy says that Kiwibuild is going great and stakes her reputation on it and Twyford!
  If it fails, they will go down together!
  Looks like she has not got the balls to have a cabinet reshuffle!
  Oh! The poor petal!
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:56am
  - igm
    
    She has politically acceptable or competent MPs in her unelected bunch of misfits to have a reshuffle.
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:05am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Unfortunately we have no mechanism for a punishing a failed incompetent or recklessly self promoted politician. MMP takes away public scrutiny of many: a general election for all gives the voters scrutiny.
  
  Representation is not sufficient for governance: if we don’t select from the capable we are left with the incapable. Government is not solely about ideas but means execution of providing for an orderly society. It’s flavour is an extra not the meal.
  
  Hence ideologue politicians as bullies. Their impractical views require enforcing. Execution may not be possible , like KiwiBuild, because the politicians and “advisors” are bereft of practical understandings and how everyone in society is mutually interdependent.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:37am
  - Swifty
    
    ‘Representation is not sufficient for governance: if we don’t select from the capable we are left with the incapable.’
    
    Well said, KevO’B.
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:52am
Paulus

Listening to our so called Finance Minister this morning it is apparent that the Governor of the Reserve Bank has lost any independence that the role once had.
He is run by Robertson’s committee apparatchiks and will do what he is bloody well told.
He seems to accepting of that – why ?
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June 25, 2019 8:42am
- Ruahine
  
  Labour gave him the job. He is their boy.
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:58am
- Poppa
  
  From what I have seen he would not rank in the top few of Reserve Bank Governers we have had that is for sure
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:40am
- tf78
  
  Winston has wanted to undermine the Reserve Bank for years – now he’s doing just that, because as we all know Winston knows best. (sarc)
  
  Didn’t Helen Clark before she left parliament last time put in place a law that the Government could go into people’s personal bank accounts and take any money over $100k for government use in an emergency. I can see that emergency not too far away – what to do! I think I have that right, although it was a long time ago now.
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:05am
Jade Warrior

On the train into Wellington this morning, I noted that the new Waitomo service station on Hutt Road is advertising both 91 and 95 fuel for $8.88 a litre!

Ye Gods and little oil fields – the price of petrol in this country is really getting out of control! Did Julie Anne Genter set the price? ?
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June 25, 2019 8:50am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Sounds like a digital price board stuck in default mode or suffering sunstrike. I’m sure they’ll fix it.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:12am
tedbear

KiwiRail is buying more than 100 new locomotives.
All with electric engines and battery banks I expect.
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June 25, 2019 9:09am
cmm

Lime scooter death

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243531

It is completely unacceptable that these machines do not have the same level of auditing of their designs, particularly the software, as vehicles do.

I do not know if design issues contributed to this incident, but there have been numerous incidents where the Lime scooters have misbehaved.

It is completely unacceptable to have unaudited software on the roads and footpaths.

Lime’s processes are broken and nowhere near up to scratch for the sort of device they are controlling.

And, yes, that is my professional opinion as someone with over 35 years of experience in this industry.
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June 25, 2019 9:20am
- Rich Prick
  
  You wouldn’t catch me on one. God had a purpose in mind when he gave us legs.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    Rich Prick, the internal combustion engine too?
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:12am
    - Rich Prick
      
      God gave us those to make CO2s and upset greenies.
      
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      June 25, 2019 1:17pm
  - Lance
    
    Using that logic, why do you drive a car then?
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:24am
    - rangitoto
      
      Four wheels good. Two wheels bad.
      
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      June 25, 2019 11:17am
    - White Anglo Saxon Protestant
      
      You generally don’t fall off your car and grind half your face off on the pavement when operating normally.
      Also, lets you stay dry when it’s raining.
      
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      June 25, 2019 3:15pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  There are flamingo scooters in Wellington now. My kids (age 9 and 11) tried them on the weekend. The scooters go at a decent speed so it was lots of fun. It was on the road but they got out of the way when cars came past. We have gone much too far down the track of trying to regulate voluntary risk taking.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:43am
- stinkypete
  
  59 year old male
  wouldnt be surprised if he has had a medical event
  though there is some evidence he might have hit a manhole cover or grate
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:55am
- burt
  
  cmm
  
  The ironic thing is that as the guy died there is no ACC cost so nothing will be done.
  
  We only react when something we do threatens the revenue of the monopoly accident insurance we are required to support and cannot contract out of.
  
  Remember, we exist to keep ACC wealthy rather than ACC exists to cover the cost of us being human.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:07am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “as the guy died there is no ACC cost”
    Won’t ACC be paying for his funeral?
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:14am
    - burt
      
      I didn’t know ACC pay for funerals, that’s good to know.
      
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      June 25, 2019 10:38am
  - stinkypete
    
    acc pay out for every death by accident 80% of deceased incomes to retirement age
    
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    June 25, 2019 10:35am
    - burt
      
      I didn’t know that either, less to worry about now if I check out suddenly.
      
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      June 25, 2019 11:14am
- artemisia
  
  There is an investigation under way. No cause of death yet, though not considered suspicious. May have been a medical event.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:28am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Apparently a “small pool of blood” was observed that would tend to suggest an accident, though of course he could have fallen post any “medical event”.
    
    But if he fell a 20 kph without a helmet, pretty easy to hit one’s head hard enough to do real damage as any cyclist could tell you.
    
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    June 25, 2019 11:09am
    - MickMac
      
      if he wasn’t wearing a helmet then it’s a Darwin award entry…
      
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      June 25, 2019 1:43pm
  - artemisia
    
    Cardiac arrest. Before or after still to be determined, if possible.
    
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    June 25, 2019 6:29pm
Happychappy

Michael Rendell posts some data on Gabriel Makhlouf ex Treasury boss’s performance that a person sent him.
https://croakingcassandra.com/2019/06/24/some-material-on-makhloufs-performance/amp/
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June 25, 2019 9:22am
- freethinker
  
  A brief overview seems to reveal that most depts are majority female and have the highest turnover and sick days. There also appears to be a similar correlation with how badly the dept performed with Corrections being an unexpectedly good overall performer.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:42am
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
… NEW ZEALAND … Expect major government housing announcements by mid – July …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/06/links-25-june-2019/#comment-3375804

… NEW ZEALAND … Expect major government housing announcements by mid – July …

Construction industry urges Government to get on with KiwiBuild changes | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/construction-industry-urges-government-get-kiwibuild-changes?auto=6051486094001

… extracts …

… And the frustration from industry is clear. They want the Government to move in other areas too – in regulatory reform, freeing up land and building. infrastructure.

“We’re moving in the right direction, not just with KiwiBuild. That’s part of our overall programme,” Ms Salesa said.

But the industry says it’s ready to build, including thousands of prefabricated houses.

“What’s holding us back is the readying of land, the preparation, the community planning, the master planning, the infrastructure. So once the land is provided then offsite construction manufacturers can make the housing,” said Pamela Bell, founder of Prefab NZ. … view and read more via hyperlink above …
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… Housing & Urban development Minister Phil Twyford knows exactly what needs to be done … as he explained late March …

New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat

… extract …

… In our view there are three big challenges that have to be addressed:

1. A broken system for financing infrastructure

2. A planning system based on urban containment

3. The failure of governments until now, both local and central, to actively work with the private sector to enable urban growth and expansion.

… concluding …

… I talked about the land banking and speculative economy, and the pressure cooker that has given us some of the most obscenely expensive housing in the world.

These moves are designed to change that. …

… If we do these things we can truly flood the market with development opportunities. We can break the land banking economy, and drive down the cost of urban land.

We can achieve more competitive urban land markets. And industry that is more focused on development and building places of enduring value instead of land banking and speculation.

That is the pathway to more affordable housing, and a systemic fix of the crisis that has caused so much hardship, and sucked so much of our national wealth into residential property instead of the productive economy. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… NEW ZEALAND HOUSING … Getting focused on real solutions that work …

From Kiwibuild to Kiwis Building … Dr Eric Crampton … The New Zealand Initiative

https://nzinitiative.outreach.co.nz/?Ns=&Na=view-msg-public&SMESG-oid=22150&Scontact=2149250d
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June 25, 2019 9:31am
- Happychappy
  
  It’s easy to talk Hugh but a lot harder to do the walk. You have been prattling on about this when Labour was in opposition and you still haven’t made progress. Twyford and Jacinda are frauds for making promises to get elected with no plan but like them you will blame.Natioal whether it is right or wrong.
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:01am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … CHRISTCHURCH NZ … Southern and Northern new motorways progress … expected completion early and mid 2020 …
  
  New drone footage shows progress on Christchurch Southern Motorway | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/113667779/new-drone-footage-shows-progress-on-christchurch-southern-motorway
  
  Google NZ Search ‘Christchurch Motorway’ …
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=UVgRXfK-CNiuvgTn-7bABw&q=christchurch+motorway&oq=christchurch+mororway&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i13l5j0i13i30l3j0i13i5i30.4218.12969..16444…0.0..0.197.3710.0j21……0….1..gws-wiz…..0..0i131j0j0i70i256j0i22i30j0i8i13i30.OQ8ZnZ-XMlA
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:18am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Where ever did you get that boy child Crampton from? His fulsome praise of Twyford shows an “academics” removal from reality.
  Twyford and his colleagues may have a vision but are hopelessly inadequate to flesh it out. The whole COL fails that way. Parliament is about successfully enabling life in NZ not just dreams or its destruction.
  Government is meant to be a responsible occupation.
  
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  June 25, 2019 4:31pm
Fletch

All the people & media yesterday yucking it up about how Israel Falou’s GoFundMe was canned – a Christian organization has started up it’s own website to gain funding for him.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2019/06/australian-christian-lobby-launching-fundraising-website-for-israel-folau-s-legal-fight.html

This amuses me no end 🙂
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June 25, 2019 9:52am
- All_on_Red
  
  I was astonished that he raised over $750,000
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:08am
  - burt
    
    A lot of people are surprised, perhaps that is because generally Christians, unlike some other religions, don’t expect everyone else to bend their behavious to please their sky fairy so we don’t know how many there are.
    
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    June 25, 2019 11:29am
    - GoVege
      
      I lnow, Burt.
      They just like to scare them sh*tless that they’re going to roast in hell for eternity….
      
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      June 25, 2019 8:55pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    It is quite possibly a type of referendum on free speech. And of course it has been shut down because the “community standards” can’t cope with popular opinion.
    
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    June 25, 2019 2:08pm
slightlyrighty

Watching Jacinda Ardern on the news this morning, she has a look about her of someone who lives in fear that the general public will soon realise what she herself has always suspected. That she is incapable of doing the job she was elected to do.
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June 25, 2019 10:09am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  She wasn’t elected to the job. She was chosen by Winston due to his hatred for the party that got the most votes.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:57am
BrownSnake

Putting a roof over your head and the heads of your Family is your own responsibility.

What ever the cost and what ever the Parameters.

You either make that a priority in your life
or you do not.
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June 25, 2019 10:17am
Jack5

The OECD organisation is fully woke. It’s become a crap organisation, and I found it worth while to look at its web site to balance its bland, Leftish advice to New Zealand, advice that our media will push all day.

As well as the prescription for New Zealand, you can find its advice to Latvia to be more green and inclusive and, well, just try to grow more.

And, behold! A link to a podcast labelled: “Jacinda Ardern on Christchurch Call and how New Zealand is focusing on well-being.”

http://www.oecd.org
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June 25, 2019 10:19am
- Kabull
  
  As I understand, these OECD reports are basically drafted by the government being reviewed – or at least the government has a major input. So do not for a moment believe that an OECD report is independent.
  
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  June 25, 2019 1:38pm
mandk

This is what passes for journalism:
Traveller goes to the USA, needs medical attention, gets billed, insurance pays.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/travel/2019/06/australian-woman-charged-2600-after-breaking-nail-in-hawaii.html

Said traveller comments: “I feel so sorry for those people who go [to the US] and wind up with massive medical bills”

Why would you feel sorry for people who go to the USA without adequate insurance? It’s not like you have to go.
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June 25, 2019 10:20am
- Ross12
  
  Along similar lines but in this case it is the headline that is misleading (probably for click bait reasons).
  Quite a good and well written article ruined by the headline. Coutt’s does not say the AC is tainted.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/113745401/sir-russell-coutts-moves-on-from-tainted-americas-cup
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:40am
- MickMac
  
  I concur, we renew our insurence each year to cover trips.
  Its not rocket science.
  
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  June 25, 2019 1:46pm
Lee C

This morning I listened to an RNZ interview with Nick Smith.

The MP’s issues were the lack of consultation and cross-party dialogue over an electoral reform.
and the proposal to allow people to register and vote on the same day.

The reform – at Select Committee stage appears to be a done-deal.

The ‘tradition’ for electoral reform has been to have cross-party consultation. The current administration appear to be declining this, Andrew Little cites ‘Opposition’ blocking and slowing down the process as a problem for our democratic process.

The RNZ interviewer was (IMO) appalling. Antagonistic, interruptive, accusatory, provocative and clearly unsympathetic to the notion that, even if the concern and accusation of the Opposition was that the current administration might be ‘screwing the scrum’ that the politician raising the concern should not be ‘allowed’ to question that.

The interviewer took an issue of serious constitutional import, and belittled it apparently on the basis that he took exception to the notion that our current administration and elected representatives should be afforded the same kinds of scrutiny and accountability that has been the convention for perhaps forty years prior.

“Hasn’t National ever engaged in Gerrymandering?” was a direct question posed, I suppose, designed to qualify as investigative or ‘searching’ enquiry.

A better question might have been: “What previously has stopped National from Gerrymandering?” and the answer might then have been, correct, impartial and transparent airing of points in committee.

Regarding being able to enrol and vote on the same day (i.e. election day), the correct line of questioning might have included “Is it feasible that an administration in power might use its position to announce a ‘lolly-scramble at the twelfth hour and thereby encourage otherwise apathetic voters to vote, purely on self-interest, with no time to consider/debate the implications?”

I get it. RNZ is government funded.
I get it, journalists might not ‘like’ National.

What I don’t get is how eager some are to dilute our constitutional protections simply to forward a narrow ideological bias, and how emboldened they are to feel they can do this without any pretence of objectivity.
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June 25, 2019 10:23am
- slightlyrighty
  
  It is the job of RNZ to question our politicians. It is not their job to debate the issue. If they want debate, then they should have representatives from both sides, and not be one side of the debate.
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:02am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Is the term of Parliament to be extended as well to 8 years? Oppositions get in the way of Government by unmarried mothers and retired fishnchip shop graduates. Oppositions are the curse of the socialist classes.
  
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  June 25, 2019 4:11pm
alloytoo

The PM should do Dancing with the stars (or whatever the program is called), she’ll be particularly good at the “dancing on the head of a pin” segment.
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June 25, 2019 10:23am
- burt
  
  The problem would be she would dance for just 2 bars of the song then stand still expecting everyone to tell her what a great job she has done and how fabulous she was.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:40am
Yvette

Balls-up or brilliant? Te reo expert defends Kerikeri airport sign
… Some social media users [including Shane Jones] have suggested the airport operator must have used Google Translate for the signs.
That is, however, not the case. Google’s failed attempt at translating “baggage claim” is “nama kerēme”.

In fact Google – for Shane Jones benefit – translates “pēke kokoraho” as “bankruptcy bag” [and references “nama kerēme” – “bank claims”, which isn’t too far off “bag claims”]

It would seem Maori is so little used that Google does not have a user-built reference bank (“Can you improve this translation?”) for Maori. That is the balls up.
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June 25, 2019 10:36am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Maori doesn’t have the words–kereme is just an attempted transliteration.
  There is no way Maori is going to get the words either. There is so much more required in this technical driven world that 90% would need to created which would be pointless.
  The Elders foresaw that in the 1930’s.
  
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  June 25, 2019 4:05pm
Jack5

I don’t see it in our media, but an interesting item in the Geek world is the arrival of the latest version of the tiny Raspberry Pi computer, this time the Raspberry Pi 4. In fact it’s started the 4 series as the Pi 4B.

About 15 million of these tiny computers have been sold, making it the top selling British computer ever.

It’s cheap (you can buy the base, bare-bone Raspberry Pi 3B+ in NZ for around $60. This is the model ahead of the 4B).

These tiny computers are great for adult geeks as well as for kids. Your children or grandchildren likely may either have one or know kids who do have them.

The Raspberry Pi series an excellent technology-education tool. It can be used in great projects as varied as learning to code, creating web sites, or controlling a robot.

For Kiwiblog geeks: the 4B has up to 4Gb of RAM and USB 3.1. You could happily use it to edit Kiwiblog.

If you know folk with or interested in this great little machine, tell them the Model 4 is out, and Geeks are abuzz about it on Youtube.

This English guy is well informed:

https://youtu.be/CXCjpJasvG0
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June 25, 2019 10:37am
- rangitoto
  
  I have been using the PI 3B+ with a plug in USB disk as a video server at home. The new PI 4 is a big upgrade and amazing for the price. Someone made the comparison that the old BBC micro cost about 350 pounds back in the day.
  
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  June 25, 2019 11:29am
- oob
  
  I use rPi for all sorts of things. Most notably for energy monitoring and automation at the bach, and as an IoT gateway* in central Auckland.
  
  Just for fun I installed Fedora (which is my desktop OS of choice) on rPi 3B+ to see how it would go and I tell you what, it was not far off adequate.
  
  So I’m looking at the rPi 4 series as a potential workstation replacement. I’m pretty sure it will have enough performance even before I compile a bespoke kernel.
  
  The only downside is going to be shifting virtualisation loads to another device as the rPi definitely won’t be up to that. I run a Micros~1 instance to host apps like Sparx EA and Visio on VirtualBox on my workstation, this will have to move over to the NAS.
  
  (Using a RAK 831 Hat.)
  
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  June 25, 2019 12:13pm
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    I also tried fedora on the rPi 3B+ but gnome shell choked it. Suspect it would run fine on the 4 with 4GB of ram.
    
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    June 25, 2019 1:53pm
    - oob
      
      Yep, that’s my theory too and you’re right, GNOME is the hog.
      
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      June 25, 2019 5:10pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    We have been a Linux household for years. PCLinuxOS in its variants is OK for almost anyone. The family use it on hand me down computers. Fedora is big league by comparison.
    
    Another, MX-18, is very compact and fast. It has an excellent toolbox and I have thrown out Windows 10 for it and use MX-18 with Win 7 Pro in VirtualBox on this cheap laptop.
    All the software you’re likely to want, except specialist gaming, free.
    
    Looking forward to getting a RP.
    
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    June 25, 2019 3:46pm
    - oob
      
      Kev it sounds like you’re living mostly in the world of X11 and minimalist windowing environments.
      
      If your hardware supports it, move over to Wayland: it’s come a long way, the performance over X is huge and the resource utilisation a lot less.
      
      With a cursory read of the rPi 4B I can’t tell if it supports Wayland out of the box. I remember a few years ago Weston dropped rPi as a backend (“who cares? No-one will use rPi as a desktop anyway”) but now that it’s viable, it should.
      
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      June 25, 2019 5:31pm
Durden

A clear-eyed view on the con – “New Zealand’s well-being budget more smoke than fire”

” In New Zealand’s case, the government changed because of a narrow margin of victory. In this context, it is problematic to move to a ‘well-being’ budget and away from an approach grounded in diffuse preference satisfaction. The opposition is within its rights to argue that it too was concerned with well-being when in power, not just economic growth, and that the present government is engaging here in an expensive branding exercise rather than offering meaningful policy improvements. ”

https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2019/06/15/new-zealands-well-being-budget-more-smoke-than-fire/
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June 25, 2019 10:42am
rouppe

Great article on the hypocrisy of the Wellington city council leadership on declaring a climate emergency

https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/113731682/how-serious-is-wellington-about-its-climate-change-emergency
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June 25, 2019 10:51am
Ed Snack

Interesting finding about Google and how absolutely partisan they are.

Try entering “Hillary Clinton’s Email” into search – and you get no suggestions (as you normally do) – nothing at all is suggested. Type the same into DuckDuckGo (or your other search engine of choice) and you get a whole list of suggested completed search terms.

So Google is now covering up for Clinton – and according to Project Veritas, they intend to apply the same sort of skew during the 2020 elections to help prevent the re-election of Donal Trump.

That surely removes their statutory protection from being sued as a publisher only – by displaying bias and partisanship they will be fair game for all and sundry to sue.
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June 25, 2019 11:16am
- stephieboy
  
  “So Google is now covering up for Clinton…”
  
  ???
  
  Nothing untoward in my search,
  
  https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=hillary+clinton%27s+emails&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
  
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  June 25, 2019 2:12pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘“So Google is now covering up for Clinton…”
    
    ‘Nothing untoward in my search,’ says Stephie as he searches using Google
    Lol
    
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    June 25, 2019 4:30pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Um, I think what stephieboy is pointing out is that Ed Snack’s allegation that if you type “Hillary Clinton’s emails” into a Google search box you get no results is complete bollocks.
      
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      June 25, 2019 9:46pm
rangitoto

Have they not closed down the airport to save the planet?
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June 25, 2019 11:34am
Wired-one

Amy Adam’s leaving politics at the 2020 election.
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June 25, 2019 12:13pm
hullkiwi

News alert on Red Radio. Amy Adam’s to step down from politics at ghd next election and his resigned from her shadow portfolios.

What gives? Anybody any reliable insight?
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June 25, 2019 12:23pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Withe the COL HM Opposition is no longer required. In fact they are an embarrassment and have to be silenced so they don’t get in the way of closing down NZ. QT has become a waste of time and not normally attended by the PM.
  
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  June 25, 2019 3:20pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Amy Adams retiring, guess she figures she’s never going to get the top spot.
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June 25, 2019 12:27pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes, Amy has had enough.
  She’s not leadership material and can’t score hits on Robbo. Time to get out.
  Hopefully Paul Goldsmith will be appointed Finance Spokesman and proceed to put the bunsen burner under the gloating Robertson.
  
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  June 25, 2019 1:25pm
  - Wired-one
    
    Amy can and does score hits on Robertson. Grant knows he can not match it with Adam’s intellect, so now he simply answers that he “rejects the premise of that question”, for which Mallard stays silent. Its frankly a disgrace to democracy.
    
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    June 25, 2019 2:33pm
cmm

Sickening stuff funded by us.

5 kids taken away now a 6th kid in hospital after a solid bashing.

If these were animals instead of babies, the parents would never be allowed to have pets and animals.

At what stage should the state intervene with forced contraception?

Does the parent’s right to procreate and manufacture babies trump the rights of the kids?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243660
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June 25, 2019 12:36pm
- kowtow
  
  Sorry mate ,there’s bigger fish to fry here in Aotearoa , and the craven Media Party will ensure the light they occasionally cast over this country’s greatest shame will quickly be cast firmly back on the really important issues like the witch hunt against an Australian Christian footie player , the non existent climate crisis or indeed what Trumpie’s up to.
  
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  June 25, 2019 12:50pm
  - MCos
    
    It’s interesting you mention Falou because I’d hazard a guess that his fundamentalist brand of Christianity would be dead against forced contraception, abortion . . . .
    Bloke can say what he likes, of course, but it could get a bit tiresome defending him.
    
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    June 25, 2019 6:42pm
- MickMac
  
  forced snips of vas deferens….
  
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  June 25, 2019 1:49pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I wonder whether this will pause the media’s assault on OT’s uplifting practices? Is it all still racist? Was Captain Cook really a baby thief? Many questions for the media.
  
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  June 25, 2019 2:58pm
freethinker

Bank deposit Gtee scheme
Further to earlier post it seem TVNZ yesterday got the announcement wrong – no surprise there – the schemes outline explanation courtesy of Interest >Co follows-
The proposal is for the regime to include a limit of between $30,000 and $50,000. This means someone with a $70,000 deposit in a bank that runs into trouble would get up to $50,000 back.

If they had a $50,000 deposit with Bank A and a $50,000 deposit with Bank B, and both banks went under, they would get $50,000 back from each bank, so $100,000 in total. But if they had $100,000 with Bank A, they would only get $50,000 back.

Finance Minister Grant Robertson said the proposed limit would cover 90% of individual bank deposits and 40% of funds in bank deposits in New Zealand.

Who pays?

Overall a rare uptick for this Govt, devil will be in the detail however!
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June 25, 2019 12:59pm
- rouppe
  
  As to who pays, wouldn’t this come from the capital requirements that the banks are required to hold?
  
  Perhaps this just formalises that the capital retention has to go to the depositor, rather than to maintaining CEO bonuses
  
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  June 25, 2019 2:16pm
John Warren

I couldn’t understand what possible point there was in councils declaring climate emergencies. I get it now. It gives them yet another excuse to raise rates, this time to pay for “climate change”.

Anyway climate change is squarely the fault of all us boomers and Gen-Xers who own the houses, so tough titties.
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June 25, 2019 2:31pm
burt

So…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113761989/criminal-penalties-possible-if-anz-directors-found-to-have-misled

Winston thinks banks need to be more accountable than politicians. Self serving a$$h0l3 !
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June 25, 2019 2:53pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Can we have an assurance from Winston that he acted in a prudent manner in promoting the COL into Government. Can we sue for damage to the nation resulting from a utu-led choice?
  Winston has passed his use by date and needs annual certfication as to fitness to be served in Bellamy’s.
  
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  June 25, 2019 3:08pm
  - burt
    
    Remember that Winston is a proven liar having been found by the privileges committee to have misled parliament and the public over the “NO” sign.
    
    His punishment was to re-file his party electoral finance returns to include the donations he lied about.
    
    But it’s different when it’s not a politician misleading people….
    
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    June 25, 2019 3:50pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/06/links-25-june-2019/#comment-3376376

NEW ZEALAND … ANZ BANK FIASCO …

Criminal penalties possible if ANZ directors found to have misled | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113761989/criminal-penalties-possible-if-anz-directors-found-to-have-misled

ANZ’s directors, including former prime minister John Key, could face criminal and civil penalties if they are found to have made false or misleading statements to the Reserve Bank. … read more via hyperlink above …
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June 25, 2019 4:19pm
mandk

Look what happens when SJWs try to shut down the free expression of religious beliefs:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/113764279/israel-folau-1000-a-minute-folau-gets-back-more-than-600000
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June 25, 2019 4:44pm
- rangitoto
  
  Gofundme missed out on the commission too.
  
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  June 25, 2019 5:08pm
  - sooty
    
    Missed out on the feelz as well!
    
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    June 25, 2019 9:21pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  Talk about an own goal by GoFundMe…the virtue signalling cretins have given Folau so much free publicity by removing his campaign he’s actually raising more money than he was before ?
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:10pm
wreck1080

I see the organisation formerly known as cyfs is under fire for removing babies from dangerous environments. I think they should be under investigation for not removing more at-risk babies…

This is a tragically sad and horrific story, where a mother tortured her children such that one of them committed suicide.

Given the facts and lead-up of the case, why on earth didn’t the state intervene earlier? I hate that these children were put through this.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243775

A Taranaki woman has been jailed for having “psychologically butchered” her three young daughters.

In New Plymouth District Court today, the 35-year-old was sentenced to four years and three months in prison over three counts each of cruelty to a child, assaulting a child and neglect.

The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, sobbed loudly as the court heard how she’d abused her girls, at times calling them “sluts”, “whores”, “fat bitches” and “nothing but meat on the ground”.

The abuse also included kicking and punching them, and pulling their hair – which left them with bruises about their bodies – and threatening them over reporting anything to police or Oranga Tamariki.

Court documents showed the abuse stretched six and a half years between March 2011, when the girls were aged 6, 5 and 3, to June 2017, when the eldest sibling died by a suspected suicide and the other two were removed from their mother’s care.
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June 25, 2019 5:19pm
- GoVege
  
  6 and a half years of child torture in the 21st century?
  How did she get away with it for so long?
  
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  June 25, 2019 8:46pm
Lee C

“It is the job of RNZ to question our politicians. It is not their job to debate the issue. If they want debate, then they should have representatives from both sides, and not be one side of the debate.”

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Satire. I love it.
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June 25, 2019 6:15pm
Jack5

ANZ Bank New Zealand is risking shooting itself in the foot by apparently indicating to, or even perhaps warning, Netball New Zealand, reservations about Maria Folau in regard to HER HUSBAND’S row with Rugby Australia over his views on homosexuality.

ANZ Bank New Zealand needs public friends in New Zealand while it in a horns-locked battle with the Reserve Bank of NZ.

Many of those who have defended the bank are either conservative or conservative-Christian, and will likely turn on the bank if it picks on Maria Folau. That also applies to many of its business customers.

The ANZ Bank of NZ ought to keep its nose out of this matter. There’s no winning return for it, and quite a bit to lose.

The Leftist media is repeating ad nauseum old Kerry McDonald’s call for John Key to stand down over the capitalisation reporting issue … and the bank is seeking to join the Folau row? Un-bloody-believable.
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June 25, 2019 6:48pm
- kowtow
  
  They need to put their own “house” in order, or perhaps they’re happy to have a distraction from their own indiscretions ?
  
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  June 25, 2019 7:41pm
Morrissey

“Dear America for the love of God elect Sanders as your president. Sincerely, the rest of the world”

That comment under this YouTube clip garnered 1347 likes in a couple of days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPsvJo4LXnY
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June 25, 2019 7:04pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The deluded and demented Morrissey attempts to strike again.
  Give up while you’re behind Morrie.
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:30pm
- Fletch
  
  Yep, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. The next after Trump 🙂
  
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  June 25, 2019 9:51pm
- rangitoto
  
  Keep America Great – Trump 2020.
  
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  June 25, 2019 10:13pm
GoVege

Sad to see how many narrow-minded Christians there are out there.
Scary actually…
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June 25, 2019 8:42pm
Fletch

Israel Folau fund up to $1.2 million….

https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy
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