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Happychappy

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Not a good look for a future Prime Minister.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home
Will this have any bearing on the final vote.
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June 22, 2019 8:05am
- redeye
  
  He’s told her to get off his laptop and she’s complained about the red wine on her sofa. And the fucken Guardian reading neighbor recorded it all and called the police.
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:08am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I hope he realises that loud sex would be heard by the neighbours also. best he gets new accommodations.
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:55pm
    - kowtow
      
      No 10 , will do very nicely , thank you.
      
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      June 22, 2019 2:51pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I just called my partner to read this story –
  he wondered what Bojo had that he didn’t?
  LOL!!
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:19am
- Tall Man
  
  Awesome. I’d vote for him.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:47am
- emmess
  
  How convenient
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:01am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yes, that was my first thought too. On the very day Johnson as confirmed as one of two contenders to lead the Conservatives, a nosy neighbour calls the Police on him. This doesn’t pass the sniff test.
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:42pm
    - projectman
      
      Call me cynical, but I’d put money on the media and/or Johnson’s opponents contacting the neighbour(s) looking for any scuttlebutt (with suitable financial inducement of course).
      
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      June 22, 2019 1:21pm
rightoverlabour

Kiwibuild should have looked up Amazon

https://www.boredpanda.com/buy-houses-amazon/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=BPFacebook&fbclid=IwAR0nVViNpDFWS-5ImXjjBcMwr-sVn6Yq2rjvYhGCQwiiq8tX2bwY8Sa0EQU
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June 22, 2019 8:12am
MickMac

Will the buses run well today.
Going to give stagecoach a try.
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June 22, 2019 8:12am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Go on Auckland rail and find out
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:09am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The three hour Saturday morning moderation queue?
    
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    June 22, 2019 9:54am
- MickMac
  
  Brilliant 9am no 2 into town. 34 mins to Cuba St, did the eyes appt, bought clothes, looked at street art had a wander, funny how town looks different from the street.
  Back to Miramar and a good coffee at Bongusto, bought a book for the other half at Sallies, read the paper through!
  Then home on next bus, all very easy.
  
  The traffic into town looked horrendous coming into town, the Haitaitai tunnel makes all the difference.
  Hopefully the clowns at GWMG can actually sort the transport out.
  If we could get a bus every 20 mins to and from 8am till 11pm, we’d only have 1 car.
  Not sure how the other routes rate….
  
  NOTE: The driver had nowhere to put his bag (behind/above/infront, so it lay blocking 50% of the walk in past him.
  One elderly Chinese man moved it to get round but the driver just put it back.
  
  Stagecoach need to sort that as it’s a health and safety problem of their making. I’m sure all the drivers have a little bag like that.
  
  This is the third Sat am going to town, so far been great. No 2 seems ok, now to try it during work hours.
  
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  June 22, 2019 3:18pm
Swifty

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June 22, 2019 8:13am
- Psycho Milt
  
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  Yeah, this stuff is really helping convince us the government was wrong to crack down on MSSA ownership, right? /sarc
  
  What’s the penalty under the new law for hoarding illegal weapons? I hope it gets a fat prison sentence.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:49am
  - Swifty
    
    And when the next loony goes postal in NZ and the Govt responds by banning and confiscating all firearms (and especially because they know that will play well with their supporters and the UN) you’d support that too?
    
    This government has decided to confiscate firearms from thousands and thousands of NZers who have done nothing wrong and everything right.
    
    And the really perverse thing? The CoL have specifically designed the system so that those without a firearms license, ie the current law breakers, who hold these weapons will not be paid under the buyback. So what are these people going to do – well of course they’ll hold on to them.
    
    Yes, that’s right! This scheme confiscates firearms from the law-abiding but deliberately leaves the now-unlawful weapons in the hands of the criminals!
    
    And all of this is going to cost every NZer, man, woman and child, close to $100!
    
    How fucking stupid is that? And you support this?
    
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    June 22, 2019 11:13am
    - Tarquin North
      
      Well put Swifty, another hugely expensive and totally ineffective own goal from the worst government ever.
      
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      June 22, 2019 12:10pm
    - Tall Man
      
      You’re wasting your breath… psycho votes for the watermelons… nuff said.
      
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      June 22, 2019 2:26pm
    - Psycho Milt
      
      This government has decided to confiscate firearms from thousands and thousands of NZers who have done nothing wrong and everything right.
      
      As the Australian government sensibly did years ago, which is one reason (and possibly the main one) that Anonymous Loser came over to NZ to do his murdering. Most of us would prefer NZ to become less attractive as a mass-murder working holiday destination, thanks.
      
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      June 22, 2019 2:28pm
      - MickMac
        
        Psycho
        What a Stupid thing to say.
        
        Seriously and you have a vote!
        
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        June 22, 2019 3:19pm
      - GoVege
        
        It’s the truth isn’t it, Mickmac.
        The terrorist loser came here because he couldn’t buy those weapons in his homeland.
        And because he was less likely to be shot by the police here.
        
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        June 22, 2019 4:13pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        More guns in Aussie now than before the Massacre. Only about a third handed in. The Buyback had no statistical effect on the decline of gun violence that was already occurring. Not a good example to site.
        
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        June 22, 2019 6:10pm
    - GoVege
      
      If only they’d done it before 51 innocent people were murdered and another 50 maimed.
      
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      June 22, 2019 4:17pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    I hope they use PVC pipe to bury their firearms so tyrant fucks like you never find them.
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:17pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Evidently PVC pipe is bloody hard to get these days, especially 8 inch with end caps.
      
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      June 22, 2019 6:11pm
Hugh Pavletich

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… NEW ZEALAND … The ANZ Bank John Key / David Hisco fiasco … intensifies …

Did Hisco take the fall for ANZ board’s embarrassment? | Janine Stark OPINION Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113629736/did-hisco-take-the-fall-for-anz-boards-embarrassment

OPINION: Once upon a time, at a large New Zealand bank, I watched my boss sign off our corporate credit card expenses.

As my eyes scanned down the list, a dodgy debit leapt off the page. We both arched an eyebrow. The culprit’s attention was sought across the room. “Just drinks?” The response was yes. “With a client?” Affirmative again.

“Quite a lot of drinks,” I muttered and went back to the incoming call. The dubious-looking charge was a discreet prostitution house, with a bar. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Hisco Inferno: ANZ chairman John Key feels the heat as David Hisco saga intensifies – Fran O’Sullivan – NZ Herald
… behind paywall …

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12242830
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ANZ bought $7.5m Auckland property for David Hisco | Kate MacNamara | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113661929/anz-bought-75m-beachside-auckland-property-for-david-hisco
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Google NZ Search ‘ANZ David Hisco’

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C2GIGM_enNZ518NZ518&source=hp&ei=W54KXYnDEIqy9QOTpbmABA&q=anz+david+hisco&oq=anz+david+hisco&gs_l=psy-ab.12..
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June 22, 2019 8:13am
- Happychappy
  
  I see John Key replied to all the sick morons that want his head by stating I am going no where so why haven’t you posted that Hugh. Get help as hate consumes people and ruins any credibility that they once had.
  
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  June 22, 2019 8:44am
- peterwn
  
  Catriona MacLennan, lawyer has some very interesting comments on this on Spinoff.
  She argued there were differing justice standards for the rich and influential versus the poor and she does have a point here.
  If a bank staffer stole money from the local branch, the bank would ensure the staffer faced the full force of the law. A prison term would probably ensue. The bank could take a more lenient stance such as accepting the staffer’s resignation, arranging partial payment, etc. But banks have rigid policies on this.
  But the ex ANZ chief seemed to have caused much greater loss to the bank and as Catriona pointed out he was not held accountable as an ordinary bank staffer would be.
  So Catriona is implying that either rank and file staffers who steal from and defraud their employers should be treated lenuiently, or that a top manager who defrauds his or her employer should be made to face the full force of the law.
  This has a special significance for banks, their staffs are entrusted with vast sums of money whether in cash or ledger entries and the highest integrity is expected. In the old days the local bank manager was the guardian of his branch and was expected to have the highest integrity (as well as the ability to say ‘no’), and almost all achieved this.
  Therefore one would expect the bank’s head office management including the CEO to have similar integrity fitting for a bank rather than a family owned company that plays fast and loose.
  So Catriona has made the point that the ex CEO should have been treated as harshly as any other bank officer.
  For example the ex CEO claimed that some Australian manager (from memory) said he could incur these expenses and the NZ board meekly accepted that. The NZ Board should have called his bluff on this and if the ex CEO wanted to back that claim should have forced him to go to the Employment Court (which he would not do).
  So Catriona is right, the ANZ’s New Zealand Board has fallen far short of exercising its responsibilities here and the parent Australian Board has also fallen short of doing the right thing for ANZ shareholders (which would indirectly include many Kiwisavers).
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:11am
  - Tall Man
    
    I don’t agree.
    
    Often the smaller stuff is used for a “dismissal” and the culprit removed.
    
    No bank wants top publicly declare they have a “crook” in the company and unless there are huge amounts involved.
    
    Modern banking also makes such fraud difficult.
    
    Before we all get too excited how about we wait to see all the facts. I very much doubt this is the end of the show but I would be happy to be wrong, the whole thing is just an attempted beat up of Sir John Key. We have vastly bigger issues in NZ revolving around the dishonesty and overt corruption in the coalition.
    
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    June 22, 2019 10:21am
    - freethinker
      
      Questions of property sales to Hiscos wife and his own house, a sum or $4 million was mentioned which may explain Hisco forgoing some $6 million of share options or benefits.
      
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      June 22, 2019 1:22pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Possibly but I really don’t care. It’s a private matter, they’re not my bank so I couldn’t care less.
        
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        June 22, 2019 2:28pm
    - peterwn
      
      You are right that it is the ‘small stuff’ that is relied on to execute a hatchet job. I would hazard a guess that John Key had negative vibes about the guy and wanted him out.
      I would hazard a guess that some relatively junior person unearthed incriminating ledger entries and quietly blew the whistle with the internal auditor who quietly wheezed up the Board’s Audit and risk Committee. John Key is smart and will have lines of unofficial communications open.
      As for saying it is ‘small stuff’, it is in absolute terms pretty big stuff – thousands of dollars worth. Even if the CEO claimed he had approval – why was he furtive in not having it properly booked so it was included in his declared remuneration and appropriate fringe benefit tax paid?
      
      Something that happened years ago – J Paul Getty the oil tycoon noticed a promising junior employee marked for promotion was putting his private mail through the firm’s postage meter. He quietly suggested the employee find another job. That ex-employee got another job and defrauded his new employer of much larger amounts. That vindicated Paul’s initial action.
      
      So goodness knows what the ANZ ex CEO may have been up to, John Key smelt a rat, and the ‘smiling assassin’ claimed his biggest scalp yet. I bet what happened is all around the Merrill Lynch office in New York where John used to work.
      
      So goo
      
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      June 22, 2019 4:31pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  Access recent ANZ Bank Key / Hisco related posings …
  
  Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/06/links-20-june-2019/#comment-3372801 … and … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/06/general_debate_20_june_2019.html/comment-page-1#comment-2511571
  
  NEW ZEALAND … The ANZ Bank John Key / David Hisco fiasco …
  
  Did John Key (check housing market transactions) and David Hisco ever consider the poor and disadvantaged with this totally unnecessary housing bubble … as they milked it for all it was worth ? … read more via hyperlinks above …
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:12am
  - Tall Man
    
    FFS, go and mow the fucking lawn.
    
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    June 22, 2019 10:35am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Hugh; see a doctor. Your obsession with Key is getting the better of you, and you need professional help now.
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:45pm
- Alien
  
  So what labour office do you spam out of and do you ever have your own thoughts?
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:22am
- burt
  
  Google NZ Search ‘ANZ David Hisco’
  
  For the benefit of Labour party supporters who might not understand this I’ll rephrase it into your acceptable talking points vocabulary.
  
  Do a serious hacking attempt for ‘ANZ David Hisco’
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:00am
  - Swifty
    
    Heh
    
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    June 22, 2019 11:14am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Brian Gaynor: Executive excess endorsed by directors … New Zealand Herald (behind paywall)
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12242649
      
      COMMENT:
      
      The public humiliation of former ANZ Bank New Zealand CEO David Hisco hasn’t been fully endorsed by the top end of Auckland.
      
      Members of this group see Hisco as a very important individual who had huge responsibilities and goals to achieve.
      
      After all, no other New Zealand chief executive has delivered an annual profit of $1.953 billion and had to worry whether it might only be $1.925b. … read more via hyperlink above (behind paywall)
      
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      June 22, 2019 12:20pm
mjw

Extraordinary revelations at the NZ Herald about ANZ selling prime real estate to David Hisco’s wife for $4m below market value. The big questions for me are:

(1) Did the ANZ pay $2m of Fringe Benefit Tax to cover the below-market sale of David Hisco’s house?

(2) Was the additional $4m remuneration to David Hisco properly reported?
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June 22, 2019 8:14am
- tf78
  
  mjw – I think it was actually $1m below market rate at the time – the new Council valuations would have since taken it up to $10m. Most expensive houses these days are selling for a least $1-2m below those rating valuations.
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:30am
  - mjw
    
    tf78 – I don’t believe that is correct. The house was sold for $1m below purchase price. Purchase was in 2011. Sale was in 2017. There was a lot of appreciation in the Auckland property market between 2011 and 2017.
    
    So as I say, about $4m below market price.
    
    However, no doubt the ANZ got a registered valuation at the time so they could quantify the additional remuneration and FBT. 🙂
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:00pm
    - tf78
      
      Sorry – how can you sell $1m below purchase price – price of purchase is the price.
      
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      June 22, 2019 8:55pm
- gump
  
  There is no corruption in New Zealand…
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:11am
  - MickMac
    
    sorry upticked.
    
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    June 22, 2019 3:23pm
Swifty

“I don’t ask anybody for anything – never have, never will.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/113641517/legendary-taranaki-bushman-offering-his-first-axes-as-museum-pieces

Legend.
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June 22, 2019 8:19am
Ruawai

Two sensible articles in Stuff today:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/113666046/ok-whanau-lets-see-how-you-get-on-with-baby-and-parents

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/113596362/public-officials-providing-new-cannon-fodder-service-as-ministers-duck-for-cover
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June 22, 2019 8:26am
- freethinker
  
  Amazing that the comments on Stuff on Ministerial competency are all negative and still visible. Moderators still in bed ?
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:11am
  - Tall Man
    
    Weekend… labour interns too lazy.
    
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    June 22, 2019 10:33am
  - emmess
    
    What comments? I can’t see any. I didn’t think they had any anyway.
    Have they been removed?
    
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    June 22, 2019 11:04am
rightoverlabour

Look at the sentence here. Our judges could learn a few things

Man jailed for ‘ferocious’ pub attacks in Chesham
CCTV pictures captured the moment a 56-year-old man was repeatedly punched in an unprovoked attack at a bar.

George Horn, 25, of no fixed address, was seen shaking the man’s hand before talking and laughing with him at the Jolly Sportsman pub in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, on 18 August 2018.

But a minute later he suddenly began to throw punches, leaving the victim with an eye injury. He then attacked a 30-year-old man outside the pub.

Horn pleaded guilty to two counts of grievous bodily harm and was sentenced to nine years in jail at Aylesbury Crown Court.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-48643646/man-jailed-for-ferocious-pub-attacks-in-chesham
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June 22, 2019 8:33am
- Alien
  
  Won’t happen in nz. Not when there is a government that wants to appease the un and reduce the prison population while giving slaps on the wrist.
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:24am
- kowtow
  
  Nine years for “gbh” ? Out in 4 .
  Once upon a time gbh was considered pretty much just lower than murder.
  I’d say that’s piss poor sentencing.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:14am
  - MickMac
    
    Yep, if he sat the full 9yrs it would be best.
    
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    June 22, 2019 3:24pm
Paulus

Dare I ask what has happened to the Pike River Re Entry ?
I know that Baby has a birthday but……………
Last heard that the mine was flooded and truckloads of concrete were being urgently delivered.
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June 22, 2019 8:35am
- Alien
  
  Do we really need to know what is going on with it. Last thing I want is constant coverage.
  
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  June 22, 2019 8:46am
- Yvette
  
  ‘Morale is high’ as Pike River mine re-entry crew nears note left by 2011 search team vowing to return – June 18, One News
  
  Pike River re-entry lead: Finding ‘promise note’ not as crucial as honouring the message
  The re-entry crew have since reached the barrier, but were unable to find the note or the plastic cover it was placed inside – June 19, stuff
  
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  June 22, 2019 8:50am
- projectman
  
  What’s the source for your info – hasn’t been reported as far as I can see.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:32am
  - Tall Man
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/113618762/pike-river-reentry-lead-finding-promise-note-not-as-crucial-as-honouring-the-message
    
    That was hard.
    
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    June 22, 2019 11:20am
    - Sponge
      
      Hacker!
      
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      June 22, 2019 8:26pm
- KiWombat
  
  No recent activity at Pike River. Have not seen any unusual vehicles heading up to the mine since all those cement mixers a few weeks back !
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:46pm
Than

Yesterday I watched the deepfake video of Bill Hader (SNL cast member) being artificially rendered to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Gotta say on close inspection it didn’t pass muster, you could tell it was fake. But if you were just casually watching I could imagine it being pretty convincing, and the technology is only going to get better. One question, how do they do the voices? Can a computer simulate an individual’s voice yet, are they mixing together recordings, or does it require a convincing human impressionist?

But my overall take on deepfake videos is that we’ve been here before.

Twenty-five years ago a photo was proof. If you saw a photograph of event X, you could be reasonably sure event X happened. Then photoshop came along. Nowadays everybody knows not to just accept an image, even a photorealistic one, as proof that something happened.

It took a few decades, but software can now do the same with video. We’ll have to make the same adjustment we did with photos, and learn not to always accept footage of an event as proof that an event happened.

Although this does leave the awkward open question, what exactly will constitute proof in the age of deepfakes? We live in potentially confusing times.
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June 22, 2019 8:36am
- Alien
  
  I watched a deepfake video the other day where tvnz had faked a video trying to make out some drunk was our deputy prime minister and someone called Ardern was our prime minister. Creepy.
  
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  June 22, 2019 8:48am
- burt
  
  The method I’m starting to use to determine fake from real is quite simple:
  
  If SJW’s are holding something up as real then it probably isn’t.
  
  Take climate change; when someone tells me that 4 molecules of CO2 per 10,000 molecules of air forms a blanket of CO2 I know they have no idea what they are talking about and that their claims are completely Mann made.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:05am
  - burt
    
    OK, who down ticked that ? Whoever you were try this exercise.
    
    You will need a single piece of A4 paper and four pens. I suggest the following colours.
    
    Red for Co2, Green for Nitrogen, Black for Oxygen and Yellow for Argon.
    
    Make 4 red dots on the page, make 7,800 green dots on the page, make 2,100 black dots on the page, make 96 yellow dots on the page.
    
    Now tell me how the red dots are the most significant and stand out markers on the page and how they represent a climate emergency.
    
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    June 22, 2019 10:30am
    - MickMac
      
      Brilliant.
      Thanks for that burt.
      I’m going to use Blue for Argon as that’s me colours on the pen.
      
      Next watermelon twat I speak to about this, I’ll give him/her the pen and paper and ask them to show me…..
      
      Great stuff.
      I’ve already got 2 victims lined up for this weekend.
      
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      June 22, 2019 3:26pm
    - mark15
      
      Nope,sorry can you make it a leetle clearer…?
      
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      June 22, 2019 5:06pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Hi, Thats fucking clever. I must use it.
      
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      June 22, 2019 6:14pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Humans are only responsible for one of those red dots….. The other 3 are being belched out daily by plants, animals, volcanoes, bacteria, oceans, soils, etc.
      
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      June 22, 2019 6:16pm
  - burt
    
    Oh, and don’t forget. If instead of 4 red dots you only made 3 red dots and compensated by changing 2,100 black dots to 2,101 – the page would represent perfect atmospheric harmony rather than the climate emergency.
    
    This is what you are claiming is factual – it’s quite depressing that people can be this easily fooled.
    
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    June 22, 2019 10:41am
    - emmess
      
      Climate Emergency?
      The language is being ramped up to higher levels of insanity, all the time.
      What next?
      Climate Apocalypse?
      
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      June 22, 2019 11:09am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Climate Armageddon.
        
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        June 22, 2019 12:34pm
      - Alien
        
        Just fear mongering to keep the masses in fear, it was the Russians, then terrorism, now climate change, next it will be ET attacks
        
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        June 22, 2019 12:34pm
      - Ruahine
        
        Al Gore and Hollywood will get into the act and come out with a new movie called Climate Apocalypse II.
        
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        June 22, 2019 12:59pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    A more useful way of thinking of it is that CO2 gas forms a layer (at sea level pressures) ~4m thick in our atmosphere.
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:59pm
    - burt
      
      Can you explain why that it is more useful to pretend that the CO2 forms a single layer rather than mixes with other molecules as per regular real world physics?
      
      I understand it’s easier to understand impossible physics by using other impossible physics to explain it – but this isn’t helping us get to the reality of the situation.
      
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      June 22, 2019 1:29pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        just gives a sense of physical scale.
        
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        June 22, 2019 3:52pm
- Billy Collins
  
  “Can a computer simulate an individual’s voice yet”
  
  Yes. It’s been done with Joe Rogan’s voice.
  
  https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/17/18629024/joe-rogan-ai-fake-voice-clone-deepfake-dessa
  
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  June 22, 2019 7:10pm
Gravelroad

“Trigger” alert:
So what did you think of the Crusader horses appearing at the rugby in Christchurch last night?
Yes?
No?
Don’t know?
Don’t care?
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June 22, 2019 8:51am
- Gravelroad
  
  @11.13am:
  The above post has now been in moderation since 8.51am.
  Please remove it.
  If it is so contentious that it takes 2 hours to decide if it is suitable, it is not worth publishing it.
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:14am
MCos

Seems some protesters chucked on some nice frocks and waltzed right into a black tie occasion for a speech by the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer and disrupted proceedings.
Such pitiful security.
Some Foreign Affairs Minister is now in the shit for roughing up one of the ladies.
What will Boris being boorish elsewhere things are looking depressing for British politics.
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June 22, 2019 8:51am
Fletch

More government takeover of education, with up to 1000 job losses?

The National Party is claiming to have been leaked another Cabinet paper, this one outlining a shake up the vocational education sector.

This morning National’s tertiary education spokesman Shane Reti revealed some details of the paper, which he said was going to Cabinet on Monday.

Education Minister Chris Hipkins released proposals in February to overhaul the sector, aiming to better align training with regional needs for labour and skills.

The Government has already put $98 million towards bailing out Unitec, Whitireia and Tai Poutini polytechnics, and Hipkins has said that more will face financial failure if the Government does nothing.

But Reti said the paper showed that the Government was intending to go further than it has said, stripping power and assets from regional polytechnics.

“The polytechs will be controlled by a head office. They will have their cash and community legacy assets ring fenced at head office. All other assets including buildings and land will be taken away and consolidated.

“For high-performing polytechs like the Southern Institute of Technology, this will be devastating.”

He also repeated his earlier claim – dismissed by Hipkins as scaremongering – that the reforms would lead to 1000 job losses.

He would not say who had leaked the paper to him, but it follows the leaking of a paper to National about the cannabis referendum last month – though the Government claimed that paper was out of date.

More – https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-claims-it-has-a-cabinet-paper-detailing-vocation-education-overhaul/

I’m not seeing much about this on the TV news sites. Looks like the Marxists in power desperate to rush stuff through before they get voted out.
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June 22, 2019 9:18am
- srylands
  
  Polytechs went off the rails when they left their core business and started to offer gender studies courses or to try to become universities.
  
  This is yet another example of New Zealand making a hash out of an education stream that every country runs. Find a system that works internationally and copy it, or join it.
  
  One thing I am sure of – this idea may cost 1,000 jobs but it will create many jobs at the Ministry in Wellington.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:25am
- Herodotus
  
  We also have the final report on Bali Haque’s Tomorrows School review next Friday.
  “..than the Tomorrow’s Schools Taskforce’s radical $2 billion bureaucratic Hub proposal” And review that will be in part consuming the surplus
  https://conversation.education.govt.nz/conversations/tomorrows-schools-review/
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/ED1905/S00082/ministry-interventions-show-school-system-works.htm
  
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  June 22, 2019 12:11pm
  - Tall Man
    
    My guess is that it was predetermined to fit with the union’s demands.
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:32pm
- freethinker
  
  I’m not seeing much about this on the TV news sites. Looks like the Marxists in power desperate to rush stuff through before they get voted out.
  
  Simple solution for National, first day in power a one line bill – all legislation passed since last election is suspended pending review – amendment, confirmation or abolition and a public enquiry into Kiwifail/Treasury Hacks and Ministerial Honesty etc etc.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:35pm
Happychappy

The Greens and Labour always talk about dirty farming and Winston with Shane think logging is our future so who is responsible for cleaning up a mess like this when the heavens opens up and disasters like happened in Tolaga Bay occur.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/113542270/heartbreak-and-hope-in-tolaga-bay
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June 22, 2019 10:02am
- burt
  
  Who took the profit from the logging – the answer really is that simple.
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:19am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And who failed to check that forestry in East coast was working to rules under the Resource Management Act.
    The rain that hit Tolaga Bay last year was nothing that the area hasn’t experienced before….. About every 5 years or so.
    
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    June 22, 2019 6:24pm
- kowtow
  
  Time to push back against the liars and control freaks who’d wreck our economy and way of life.
  
  This from the ASB rural economists’s letter to the woke Camerons……
  
  ‘• Pasture-based New Zealand dairy production is the most carbon efficient dairy farming system in the world. In fact, you can ship a glass of New Zealand milk to the next most efficient country (Ireland) and drink it there and it still has a lower carbon footprint than an equivalent Irish glass of milk.’
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12242281
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:21am
- Tall Man
  
  “Winston with Shane think”
  
  You’re a funny guy, probably why you are so “happy”….
  
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  June 22, 2019 10:23am
BrownSnake

The promoters of Abortion and Euthanasia
do not live happy lives?

They do no understand the way.

The Oldest Man is Kung Fu Master (118 years old)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2fAgN1-UJE

Lu Zijian was well known for his high achievements in internal martial arts, Taoist alchemy & Qigong, Chinese Traditional Medicine and Chinese Traditional Painting. As a result of these excellences all converging in the same mind and body, Lu Zijian reached the age of 118 years full of vigor and a bright spirit.

My aim is to beat that and go for 120.
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June 22, 2019 10:14am
- Swifty
  
  You haven’t got a chance of reaching 120 if you keep on drinking in the mornings.
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:26am
  - BrownSnake
    
    CAN’T HANDLE LIFE MATE
    
    CAN’T GET YOUR HAND OFF IT
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:15pm
    - Swifty
      
      Hmmmm.
      
      I wouldn’t drink in the afternoon either if I were you.
      
      Nor the evening, just to be on the safe side.
      
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      June 22, 2019 3:36pm
Tasman Terror

The Fairy Princess has some wonderful communication tactics. If she is totally clueless she says ‘I’ll come back to you on that.’ If she wants to avoid making a decision on anything controversial she forms a ‘working group.’ If she hasn’t thought up a policy position but wants to sound empathetic she says ‘we need to have that conversation.’
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June 22, 2019 10:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “I can not comment while this is under investigation”
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:04am
- stephen2d
  
  You’ve forgotten the “I reject the premise of that question”, which quite a few of her lot has now adopted as well.
  
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  June 22, 2019 12:36pm
- Ruahine
  
  Ardern is a ‘cliche’ ‘Queen’.
  
  Cliche: ‘a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought’.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:07pm
Happychappy

Nathen Penny ASB Rural Economist shares a open letter to James Cameron.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12242281
A very good read with a touch of sarcasm.
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June 22, 2019 10:24am
- freethinker
  
  With that kind of factual knowledge & common sense there is a great futere for you as a future minister for agriculture.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:43pm
Maggie Pie

There are times i do wish i’d listened to my mum.
Yesterday was the 10th anniversary since me and my partner first met, and as a surprise he went and bought me ten pairs of panties – all the same color.
I said to him, “Yes, they are beautiful, but why all the same color? People will think i don’t change my panties!” Then he says, “Which people?”
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June 22, 2019 10:31am
- Biscuit
  
  Maggie, you know me, I never complain…
  
  (Especially with Liverpool newly-crowned as Kings of European club footy!)
  
  But…
  
  People who omit the U in COLOUR deserve being complained at…
  
  Consider thyself chastised!
  
  Happy 10th Anniversary to you and the partner, though!
  
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  June 22, 2019 12:31pm
  - MickMac
    
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    June 22, 2019 3:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

What has happened with the Labour Youth Camp business? Whitewashed? The Google cache has been scrubbed
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June 22, 2019 11:01am
- Alien
  
  Goes to court in August I believe it was
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:33am
  - burt
    
    Are we still pretending that all of the victims were over 16 at the time of the attacks?
    
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    June 22, 2019 11:50am
    - Alien
      
      No idea what ages they are
      
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      June 22, 2019 12:05pm
      - burt
        
        Suspect the alleged offender had no idea either, any idea why such a rampant sexual predator was initially protected by the Labour party?
        
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        June 22, 2019 12:50pm
      - sooty
        
        Contacts, mate! Contacts!
        Also helps if your mother still likes you!
        
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        June 22, 2019 5:04pm
    - stephieboy
      
      burt, over sixteen? Possibly but the defendant has pleaded not guilty which is his right no dofferent to you or me.
      
      Hence the delay in our forever clogged courts.
      
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      June 22, 2019 12:37pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’re ‘dofferent ‘ alright Stephie.
        Fortunately there’s not many Science Denying Creationist’s like you.
        
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        June 22, 2019 1:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Me a science denying creationist ?
        
        Since when?
        
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        June 22, 2019 6:02pm
    - MickMac
      
      To be frank I woodn’t know
      So much time has gone by.
      
      I can’t wait for the court date….
      
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      June 22, 2019 3:34pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    2nd September is the court date, as far as I know.
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:48pm
  - Paulus
    
    August – which year,
    Yea, I believe that too !
    Bet case gets delayed as insufficient time for Lawyers to get all the papers they need.
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:22pm
- burt
  
  I wonder who [Deleted – Mod] have made that happen?
  
  [Mod – Don’t go there. DPF isn’t keen on being sued]
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:36am
  - Alien
    
    I wonder if you realise what the punishment is for breaking name suppression? Or the risk you put this blog at by breaking name supresssion.
    
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    June 22, 2019 11:38am
    - burt
      
      Who is identified in my comment ?
      
      [Mod – nobody, now]
      
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      June 22, 2019 11:49am
      - Alien
        
        You might be stupid enough to break a court ruling, I’m not, nice try
        
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        June 22, 2019 12:44pm
  - Ian Hawthorn
    
    How are people like DPF and the moderators who are charged with the duty of keeping an eye out for this sort of thing supposed to know which names are suppressed. A list of all suppressed names would be very handy …
    … 🙂
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I think you are right.
      
      Perhaps they need to reduce their TDS and print that list so we all know which names to avoid in any post.
      
      You are obviously an astute fellow Ian 😉
      
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      June 22, 2019 1:30pm
    - projectman
      
      “A list of all suppressed names would be very handy …”
      But then they wouldn’t be suppressed would they.”
      
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      June 22, 2019 1:36pm
- JB.49
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/08/29/213911/victim-slams-labour-summer-camp-report#
  
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  June 22, 2019 11:43am
  - Tall Man
    
    If you ever considered the labour party to be a buch of scumbags, you’ll be pleased to know that you were correct.
    
    If you continue to vote for or support such a group of people then you should be ashamed of yourself.
    
    He who supports someone with no moral fibre or integrity is tarred with the same brush.
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:29pm
- freethinker
  
  2nd of September Auckland district court, all will be revealed.[Deleted – Mod] it would take this long when Tarrant case is already under way and the offence only weeks old.
  
  [Mod: Don’t go there. It’s DPF’s blog, and he’s the one liable]
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:45pm
Maggie Pie

I’ve always found Andrew Dickens to be unlistenable.
Now ZB are replacing him with two other old has beans – Simon Barnett and Phil Gifford.
Honsetly, other than the Hoskings from 5 till 9, and Bruce Russell nights, why would you ever listen?
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June 22, 2019 11:09am
- godruelf
  
  Maggie Jamie Mackay and the country team at midday are a good listen .. shame they aren’t on for longer than the hour. Even for a non farmy type.
  
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  June 22, 2019 12:14pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    @ godruelf
    OK. Haven’t herd of them before. What frequecy are they on?
    And dont for one moment think i’m a ‘non farmy’ type.
    My partner often sez “…squeal like a pig girl”.
    
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    June 22, 2019 12:47pm
    - Alien
      
      Thank god he isn’t telling you to quack like a Mallard.
      
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      June 22, 2019 1:43pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        LOL! Although it would more likely be a Paradise 🙂
        
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        June 22, 2019 2:30pm
      - sooty
        
        Jame Makay is that far left, he pushs the pram!
        
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        June 22, 2019 5:08pm
  - freethinker
    
    Ryan Bridges on Magic is pretty good too.
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:46pm
  - Sacha
    
    And you might have a different assessment of Simon Bridges if you hear him talking to Jamie McKay. He comes across as a an easy-going kiwi, pretty relaxed and lucid about most stuff, unlike the serious mien at Question Time.
    
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    June 22, 2019 6:17pm
Ian Hawthorn

Hamilton is being lobbied to declare a “climate emergency” by several school girls. School girls are of course the acknowledged experts in the field of climate and one criticises them at one’s peril. However I fail to see what emergency the climate is creating in Hamilton at present. So far we’ve had a pretty mild winter. We haven’t had a drought for ages. There is no flooding or anything like that going on. We have no coastline that might raise concerns of sea level rise. So where is the emergency?

A change in climate is not a universal catastrophe. It depends on the climate you had before and how it changed. Hamilton, which has always been a bit of a cold wet miserable place in winter, is one of those places likely to benefit from climate change with better growing conditions. Hamilton residents might need to cut their grass a bit more frequently in future, but that hardly constitutes an emergency.

Yes – I know this is purely an exercise in political posturing and virtue signalling and nobody really thinks there is an actual emergency going on. But that is my point. We should save declarations of emergency for real emergencies lest we become like the boy who cried wolf.
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June 22, 2019 11:34am
- WaveyDavey
  
  A point I’ve made before.
  
  If changing climate takes away currently useable land it stands to reason that currently marginal land will become habitable and productive.
  
  I’ve yet to see any research on the amount of land that we will gain but plenty on what we’ll lose.
  
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  June 22, 2019 12:19pm
- Tall Man
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/113627376/students-plea-sparks-move-that-could-see-hamilton-city-council-declare-climate-emergency
  
  See, they’ve even learned the “selfie pose” from the non male watermelon mps.
  
  As I am also concerned I have lobbies “God” on their behalf and surprisingly, although not to Israel Folau, he/she has responded.
  
  “Dear Bridie Case-Miller and Timi Barabas,
  
  Your plea so touched me that I have decided to act upon your request.
  
  Firstly, from Monday any parent driving a gas guzzling motor car to school, so that you and your widdle friends do not have to get oh so tired walking or biking, will get a lightning bolt up the arse. Should they persist and do it again on Tuesday they will get two lightning bolts up the arse and please don’t ask me about Wednesday.
  
  Unfortunately the school ball has to go as that obviously uses far too much power unless your want to hold it in the dark but… there will be no ball gowns this year as the total waste of money involved in the making of them will in fact be directed to your local foodbank so that those that do not want to work and so increase those nasty toxic fumes can be fed by you.
  
  There will be no pre ball functions or after ball functions as they consume far too much imported product… you call it booze, so the carbon footprint is unacceptable.
  
  Unfortunately for your school there will no longer be any EOTC or school camps, for obvious reasons and as of today, the Chiefs rugby team will be disbanded because rugby is frivolous and there is just too much travel.
  
  Please advise the rest of your friends that your submissions have been received and if for any reason they are pissed about it well, you sort it out.
  
  Cheers
  
  God
  
  ps: I support the Jaguares but I guess you know that by now 😉
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:20pm
  - Alien
    
    Who do I petition to get the volcanoes to stop erupting?
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:41pm
    - burt
      
      Start protesting the solar minimum, volcanic activity increases during solar minimum and a taxing the sun for having low activity should solve this.
      
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      June 22, 2019 3:08pm
      - Alien
        
        It’s actually strangely bypassing all the media at the moment in NZ. I’m sure I read the thermosphere is at record low temps, but no reports in nz
        
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        June 22, 2019 3:33pm
    - Ian Hawthorn
      
      The traditional remedy involves sacrificing virgins.
      
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      June 22, 2019 4:53pm
- Paulus
  
  Hamilton Climate Emergency – Fog !
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:24pm
  - marleybob
    
    which reminds me of all the times Auckland airport is closed because offffffffff fog.
    
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    June 22, 2019 8:38pm
- Ruahine
  
  Perhaps these girls have been listening to their Grandparents who would likely have told them that in their day the winters were much colder and the droughts much more often and severe.
  Oh!, so that proves that the climate has changed. The media and our teacher must be right after all.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:31pm
- Jules99
  
  If it’s good enough for Canada then Hamilton should go ahead. /sarc
  
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  June 22, 2019 2:04pm
- The Feed
  
  It’s curious that school children are being co-opted for this, almost as if the climate worriers have run out of grown adults to take this nonsense seriously.
  
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  June 22, 2019 2:58pm
  - MickMac
    
    Thats why Al Gore has been training them…..
    
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    June 22, 2019 3:39pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I think they spelt Chlamydia incorrectly….
  
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  June 22, 2019 6:20pm
Tasman Terror

The fairy princess always leans well forward, smiles widely, shakes her head up and down, and repeats her message several times when she tells her biggest porkies….. am I alone in noticing this?
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June 22, 2019 12:10pm
- burt
  
  Nope, she also seems to have a bit of a twitch in the corners of her mouth before she speaks in this situation.
  
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  June 22, 2019 12:53pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  A simpler and more accurate test to see if she is lying is just to see if her mouth is moving
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:11pm
- Tall Man
  
  I think anyone on this blog is well aware that I am well ahead of you in that assessment…..
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:23pm
  - sooty
    
    They should bring out one of those boble head toys to sit on the back ledge of the car!
    Would keep the kids amused for hours!
    
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    June 22, 2019 5:11pm
Alien

It seems to be that every day or two the media are running new fear mongering stories. Tsunami threat is such and such goes. Alpine fault danger, etc, etc. I’d be more worried about Okataina than Taupo. I wonder what next weeks natural disaster story will be

https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/113491720/taup-super-eruption-would-bury-most-of-the-north-island-in-1m-of-ash

“If Taupō ever has another super eruption, and it happens on a calm day, most of the North Island will be under at least a metre of ash, new modelling suggests. The researchers emphasise the probability of such an event is “extremely low”.”
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June 22, 2019 1:01pm
- Tall Man
  
  Probably about as low as the chance of the media devoting any air time or space to an in depth analysis of the lies coming out of ardern or any other mps for that matter.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:24pm
  - Alien
    
    Could happen, if we can find a journalist in nz, instead of the tabloid reporters we currently have
    
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    June 22, 2019 1:34pm
- BrownSnake
  
  Great
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:25pm
- Ruawai
  
  Probably more chance than the sea level rising 2 metres from climate alarmists
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:32pm
  - Alien
    
    It has already happened haven’t you seen, all the pacific islands are now surrounded by water…..
    
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    June 22, 2019 2:39pm
- Ruahine
  
  The Greens will be ecstatic. An eruption like that will kill all the animals especially those farting polluting cows and save us all from the dreaded climate change.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:35pm
- WaveyDavey
  
  You’ve only just noticed?
  
  The Auckland killer volcano comes round about every 18 months or so. Usually when a fresh state-funded animation is released.
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:42pm
  - LTA1955
    
    Such total BS from the hallowed halls of learning, just spending their new budgets on .000001% scenarios cause its dramatic and scares the shit out of the populace……sounds like Marxist BS and certainly smells like it
    
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    June 22, 2019 3:17pm
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Nah, it’s nothing to do with Marx.
      
      Everything to do with attention-seeking to keep the gravy-train fuelled and on-track
      
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      June 22, 2019 3:36pm
- dog_eat_dog
  
  You should worry about Taupo more; not about a super-eruption, but any type of eruption from the lake would be hugely damaging to both people and infrastructure, particularly hydro. The ‘super-eruptions’ are few and far between but Taupo’s had other burps and rumbles that would still be catastrophic in a civil sense today. There’s generally an ‘unrest period’ every eight or so years and the last one was in 2012.
  
  As for Okataina, I’d be more concerned about Taranaki and Taupo myself.
  
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  June 22, 2019 2:08pm
- Grey Skills
  
  Is Taupo that place without a port or a rail line and a very limited air service? Who cares?
  
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  June 22, 2019 3:04pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And dangerous roads north and south.
    
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    June 22, 2019 4:53pm
  - mark15
    
    Where would we stop for a pee on the way to Auckland if Taupo got wiped out?
    
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    June 22, 2019 5:17pm
    - toby1845
      
      Taihape, Tokoroa, Putaruru, Hamilton. Take your pick.
      
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      June 23, 2019 12:20am
  - dog_eat_dog
    
    It’s a place with a shedload of influence over our North Island hydro…. anyone who likes electricity or appliances probably should care somewhat.
    
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    June 23, 2019 6:12pm
- mark15
  
  Ah,modelling…
  
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  June 22, 2019 5:16pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  How the fuck would they know. Taupo is a notoriously difficlult type of volcano to predict. It could errupt next month or in 20,000 years. Nobody knows. However, they are correct in the devastation it would cause. The minor eruption about 2,000 years ago covered a huge area under ash. The much larger eruption 25,000 years ago pumped 1,000 km3 of ash into the atmosphere. Most of it came down and blanketed much of the central North Island.
  
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  June 22, 2019 6:25pm
- Sacha
  
  Actually, I just hope the the Earth keeps negotiating its way safely through the Torrid Meteor Stream (it’s 30million km wide, and takes the earth in orbit 12 days to negotiate every June/July and November) .
  A bit of a collision would make the climate alarmists shut up.
  And give the climate change survivors something to REALLY think about.
  
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  June 22, 2019 6:26pm
freethinker

Amazing that the comments on Stuff on Ministerial competency are all negative and still visible. Moderators still in bed ?
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June 22, 2019 1:09pm
- Alien
  
  Every now and then it feels like the media are shifting, then there is a Neve article and you realise they arent
  
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  June 22, 2019 1:35pm
kevn

Still pics and a story about ‘a baby’ on Stuff.
Give us a break…
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June 22, 2019 1:39pm
- sooty
  
  Still got a muzzie cection as well!
  
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  June 22, 2019 5:13pm
LTA1955

If we could get 10 Venezuelan citizens over here on a speaking tour about the 20 steps to marxist economic meltdown, it may get some traction. We need this because NZ is at a tipping point right now
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June 22, 2019 3:10pm
- sooty
  
  The trouble wouldb e getting them to go home again. Then when they are settled and in a state house and on a benefit, they will want the rest of the family!
  
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  June 22, 2019 5:16pm
BrownSnake

For the Control Freaks and the Freaks who need to control and be controlled from the start of their miserable existence to the very end
and do not know how to live and are afraid of death FFS

My Life – Billy Joel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYayK5uEvfo

Got a call from an old friend we’d used to be real close
Said he couldn’t go on the American way
Closed the shop, sold the house, bought a ticket to the west coast
Now he gives them a stand-up routine in L.A.

I don’t need you to worry for me ’cause I’m alright
I don’t want you to tell me it’s time to come home
I don’t care what you say anymore this is my life
Go ahead with your own life leave me alone

I never said you had to offer me a second chance
I never said I was a victim of circumstance
I still belong
Don’t get me wrong
And you can speak your mind
But not on my time

They will tell you you can’t sleep alone in a strange place
Then they’ll tell you can’t sleep with somebody else
Ah but sooner or later you sleep in your own space
Either way it’s O.K. you wake up with yourself

I don’t need you to worry for me ’cause I’m alright
I don’t want you to tell me it’s time to come home
I don’t care what you say anymore this is my life
Go ahead with your own life leave me alone

I never said you had to offer me a second chance
I never said I was a victim of circumstance
I still belong
Don’t get me wrong
And you can speak your mind
But not on my time

Cranking it out at 69

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7W8TexauCc

I don’t need you to worry for me ’cause I’m alright
I don’t want you to tell me it’s time to come home
I don’t care what you say anymore this is my life
Go ahead with your own life leave me alone
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June 22, 2019 3:26pm
Surely Knott

I’d like to see a law change on public notices. Lots of important public notices of sometimes significant legal issues and they are required only to put a notice in the “local gazette.” Our local paper isn’t even delivered to the rural properties that make up our area and many people no longer read the newspapers in paper format. Our Council should be required to put public notices on the local council facebook page, eg our local board should be required to put any public notices relevant to our area on the local board facebook page, and ideally on the local community page.
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June 22, 2019 3:55pm
- sooty
  
  Who looks at facebook?
  
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  June 22, 2019 8:55pm
Captain Mainwaring

Remember the good old days when GD would often generate over 400 comments in a day?
So far today we’ve got 142.
The over-moderated Kiwiblog is obviously much less popular.
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June 22, 2019 4:56pm
- sooty
  
  You Stupid Boy blog is just starting up and getting that!
  
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  June 22, 2019 5:17pm
- Martin Williams
  
  You only have yourself to blame.
  
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  June 22, 2019 5:20pm
- secondcumming
  
  Can’t help but wonder if *KB* intends following the example of YawnNZ? 😎
  
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  June 22, 2019 6:51pm
Maggie Pie

Bloody hell! Just out taking the dog for a walk when a noisy old white van with what looked like some sort of ‘Red Cross’ flag attached to the roof, went roaring up Remuera Road. There was a number of unsavory looking characters sitting in it, so i immediatly called police from my smartphone. The guy just laughed and hung up on me.
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June 22, 2019 5:11pm
- Alien
  
  Why didn’t you ring immigration and tell them there was someone from south Auckland that had crossed the border wall into Remuera
  
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  June 22, 2019 9:07pm
MrTips

An absolute rip-snorting article about the shitty tack fest that Pride celebrations have become. Written by the former editor of OUT. He rightly points out that folk like Max Tweedie and co. need to grow up.
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June 22, 2019 7:01pm
Morrissey

This halfwit Kushner is as outrageous a liar as his notorious father in law

Asked how he knows what the Palestinian people want given he’s “not exactly walking on the streets of Ramallah every day,” Kushner implied he’s having lots of private conversations with regular Palestinians that people don’t know about.

https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-palestinians-trust-peace-plan-2824a0fb-305a-4835-9a46-51f8611fe421.html
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June 22, 2019 8:15pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

If there was an offshore blog that just copied all of DPF’s posts and had a no-moderation policy then DPF wouldn’t be responsible for any comments, and it wouldn’t be subject to NZ law either.

DPF doesn’t appear to assert copyright on the content he produces. I wonder if he would mind?
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June 22, 2019 8:28pm
BrownSnake

Big Brother is listening and big Sister is taking notes

Big Sister is listening and Big brother is taking notes
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