General Debate 9 May 2019

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Tony Stuart

Morning all! Has Phil Twyford’s ministerial career been “reset” yet, as his Kiwibuild targets have?
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May 9, 2019 8:01am
- Swifty
  
  Twyford consistently over-promises and under-delivers.
  
  A perfect example, in miniature, of how this whole government operates.
  
  One of the features of the Key/English government was how they just quietly went about their work and surprised us repeatedly with the quality of their outcomes.
  
  The current administration, however, is all hair-oil and no socks.
  
  All gong and no dinner!
  
  All fur coat and no knickers!
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:09am
  - NoCash
    
    “All fur coat and no knickers!”
    
    Well… I honest can’t say that is a bad thing though… ;-p
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:29am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    All hui and no do-ee
    All sizzle and no sausage
    All duck and no dinner 😀
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:34am
    - kowtow
      
      All piss and wind but no shit.
      
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      May 9, 2019 8:38am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      All steam, no hangi
      
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      May 9, 2019 9:04am
    - Nermal
      
      All hat and no cattle
      
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      May 9, 2019 4:37pm
  - Durden
    
    All foreplay no F
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:36am
  - freethinker
    
    UGGG the very thought of JA in a fur coat and no Knickers is even worse than the video of her in leather domanatrix corset on stage lecturing the Komrades.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:42am
- Paulus
  
  All Cabinet changes are to be announced after and in confusion with Grant’s Wellness Budget.
  Twyford is dog tucker – but wait !!!!!!
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:28am
- Rich Prick
  
  Twyford must be Labour’s most arrogant yet ineffectual Minister that God shovelled some guts into. And he has some serious competition on ineffectiveness.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:34am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    yeah, hmm, quite a big call really. i think I can name several others that come close, then there is the Speaker….
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:24am
  - hullkiwi
    
    I don’t know you could add David Clarke and David Parker into the mix.
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:19am
  - Hacked-Off
    
    I object RP – he can’t be more ineffectual than Lees-Galloway.
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:47pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      H-o, I have a little story about how:
      Inept;
      Incompotent;
      Ineffectual; or
      Totally useless
      (Choose your selection from above).
      Twyford and Lees-Galloway are in combination.
      
      Some of you may have read of Lees-Galloway’s piece of legislation called the Employment Relations Amendment Act. The same bill that had sought to get rid of the 90 day probation period for new employees.
      
      Last week David ran a post about Twyford and Lees-Galloway needing to take to cabinet an industry wide agreement to resolve an issue.
      
      Well buried in the Act are clauses about mandatory paid 10 minute breaks after 2 hours work for an employee. These clauses are very onerous for employers with fixed long term contracts with organizations like the government, where the supplier can’t change their price, but as an employer they are obligated to apply the law.
      
      So, the bus industry duly went to Wellington to see the ministers (Twyford and Lees-Galloway). The response of the ministers absolutely floored the bus industry leaders. One MD of a major company said to me, that both of them are absolutely clueless and didn’t have any notion what was being told to them.
      
      After the ministers got up to speed, they agreed with the industry and the workers an agreement, which says everybody will work together over the next 12 months to implement the law. The problem for us taxpayers, this little farce will cost NZ $millions each year, and the employers know they can’t achieve it, because NZ has had a shortage of bus drivers for the past 2 years and now we need 1500 more. Brilliant! I couldn’t imagine a bigger mess without trying hard!
      
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      May 9, 2019 6:18pm
- RightNow
  
  Time to form a new ministry, Ministry of Urban Development, Housing and Unmet Targets.
  MUDHUTs will underwrite private developers to provide modest dwellings in unpopular areas, subsidized by the taxpayer, to qualifying buyers.
  Unsold MUDHUTs homes will be used for social housing, serendipitously averting the gentrification of MUDHUTs housing areas.
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:07pm
Maggie Pie

So, my partner said, “Why would they call him Archie, when its Jughead who wears the crown?”

https://twitter.com/people/status/1126182157343289345
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May 9, 2019 8:02am
Yvette

Nick Smith will accept Karen Dow’s petition to Parliament this afternoon [yesterday] seeking urgent legislation to introduce random roadside drug testing “to reduce the escalating road toll from drugged drivers, which resulted in 79 fatal crashes in 2017 and exceeds the number caused by those impaired by alcohol”. – Herald

The fact mentioned above: the number of fatal crashes attributable to drugged drivers, is not reflected in the current television ad where – although his car is pranged sufficiently, as is the vehicle he hits, and although nothing is shown of injured other parties – the perpetrator and passenger suffer little more than being showered with a milkshake, and misrepresents a possible outcome of the proposed referendum on cannabis use – that there may be increased drugged driving injury and deaths.

As the ad minimises the issue, and in regard now to the referendum, it misrepresents drugged driving – change the fucking ad.
Considering the current deadly road toll, a slap in the face with a wet milkshake is truly pathetic.
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May 9, 2019 8:04am
- tf78
  
  Yvette – you are totally correct – they make drug driving look like fun really.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:36am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Of course we must have every sympathy and respect to anybody who is bereaved. But that does not extend to acknowledging them as an expert and it does not make them qualified to give a balanced and rational view as to what actions would be effective. In this case the (im)practicality and cost of roadside testing and the problematic nature of the evidence means that the case for action is not clear cut.
  
  Not that this Government deserves our sympathy. The fact that things are not as simplistic and easily addressable as popular opinion might have it, never stopped them when they were in opposition. But I had hoped for better from National.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:45am
- Nermal
  
  In meth country (Whangarei) it’s becoming noticeable that many drivers, who used to dawdle happily under the influence of marijuana, are showing markedly different behaviour.
  
  It shows up as passive/aggressive. The car, with the inevitable boom box thumping out obscenities, will be waiting at the green light, or driving with excessive caution at very low speed. But when another driver tries to pass, or wake them up with a gentle toot, they will activate sudden road rage. This takes the form of rude gestures, obscenities, and extremely aggressive driving. It’s actually quite scary to be on the receiving end.
  
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  May 9, 2019 4:47pm
Notsofast

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Professor Mark Henighan gives a reasonable account of the state of play in the Mark Lundy debacle, to Suzy Fergusson on RNZ.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018693876/mark-lundy-granted-supreme-court-hearing

The supreme court can apparently dismiss the appeal, order a new trial or quash the conviction. If the appeal is dismissed new evidence is always open to be brought.

A few ideas would be the fast expanding dna database revealing familial identification of the male dna under the fingernails of both victims, (not Lundy), identification of the fingerprints around the (allegedly staged) break in at the freshly cleaned ranch slider, (not Lundy), and mitochondrial dna analysis of the 21 hairs found in Christine Lundy’s hands by inspector Oram at the autopsy, (not Lundy).

None of the above has happened yet.
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May 9, 2019 8:04am
- CHFR1
  
  Please stop, your Lundy obsession is as tiresome as Hugh’s one with housing.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:21am
  - Notsofast
    
    So housing and justice should play no part in the general kiwi debate?
    That suggests there are two ministries to close down and reallocate the resources.
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:50am
    - Tall Man
      
      mark lundy is a murderer.
      
      mark lundy cleaved his daughter’s head in with an axe.
      
      What sort of man does defending him make you? (Rhetoric, I don’t care what you say).
      
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      May 9, 2019 11:53am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Hugh is yet to turn up with any part of his wife on his shirt blaming it on a.meat pie malfunction
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:04am
artemisia

The government want a cross party approach to cannabis so they can say a Bill will be binding on whatever government we have next, depending on the results of the reeferendum.

But that assumes there will be consensus on the contents of the Bill. Hard to see that consensus actually happening based on the differing views already evident, especially as the complex ‘infrastructure’ issues are currently vague in the extreme.

Better for the government to do the hard yards first and get those ducks in a tidy row. Rather than slogans and hope.

Even if National and ACT do join in a cross party approach it could well backfire on the government if there are wide gaps in approach. And there will be.
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May 9, 2019 8:04am
- G152
  
  Well, we know who to blame when the law passes and we have an astounding rise in mental health numbers.
  And they’ll blame the population of voters for allowing it..
  You cant win, you cant get out of the game
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:28am
- Paulus
  
  Peters has not decided yet !
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:30am
  - Lizziep
    
    Such an opportunist, he has single handedly wrecked this country with his appointment of labour to become the party in charge. Disgusting.
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:15am
- hullkiwi
  
  What, cross party like Sgaw’s climate change bill?
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:35am
Maggy Wassilieff

What TV News didn’t tell us about why Nick Smith was named:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/388802/police-minister-should-man-up-says-mother-of-son-killed-in-crash
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May 9, 2019 8:05am
- hullkiwi
  
  Maggy, has Mrs Dow not learned yet, that democracy and honesty are optional extras with the CoL?
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:12am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Yeah – I actually thought Nash wasn’t so bad at first. Progressively as the year’s gone on though, he’s had to dance more and more on semantic heads of pins to try and dig himself out of a growing number of holes…
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:18am
- Inandout
  
  Well Maggy, at least Harry n Megan’s ‘offspring’ has been named : Archie.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:19am
  - Paulus
    
    And Harry’s Son.
    Great.
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:31am
- kowtow
  
  Bit of an own goal there by the CoL , sorry the Speaker , if he hadn’t named Smith then this wouldn’t have got the highlighting it needs.
  
  “Not just to me, Mr Nash, because I took your word as a man of integrity, a man representing New Zealand Police, representing Kiwi voters – and we just want transparency.”
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:20am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well spoken by Mrs Dow.. an articulate woman who has given a clear account of why she took her petition to Parliament.
    
    Shame on Nash and Mallard.
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:33am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Apologies in advance for the length of this post, but it is mandatory reading. Mallard overplayed his hand yesterday. First up, here’s Q12:
  
  Question No. 12—Police
  12. Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and actions?
  
  Hon STUART NASH (Minister of Police): Yes.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Does he stand by his statement to TVNZ on roadside drug-testing last December, in response to the Matthew Dow tragedy in Nelson, in which he said—and I quote—”There’s a discussion document that has been approved by Cabinet that’s going to go out to the public early next year”.
  
  Hon STUART NASH: First of all, let me say that if a person is impaired by drugs or alcohol they should not be driving. It is against the law. We are looking at a new strategy to improve road safety during 2019. An immediate $100 million increase of funding was made to improve road safety when we took office. However, more announcements will be made shortly.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. My question was whether he stood by an important statement.
  
  SPEAKER: The member very clearly got a “no” out of that. Carry on.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: I certainly didn’t hear a “no”. I heard a comment on the issue. I heard nothing about—look, he said Cabinet had approved something.
  
  SPEAKER: Order! Order!
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Did Cabinet, last year, approve a discussion paper on enabling police to do roadside drug testing? If not, why did he tell TVNZ and the people of New Zealand that it had approved such a discussion paper?
  
  Hon STUART NASH: That member’s been around long enough to know that we don’t discuss what goes on in Cabinet in the House.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Point of order, Mr Speaker.
  
  SPEAKER: No, no. I don’t need it. The member had a straight question, and it was a very clear question. It related to a direct quote from him. We had already commented that a paper had been approved by Cabinet. I’m sort of taking Dr Nick Smith’s word that the quote is accurate, and it’d be pretty serious if it’s not, but, taking that at face value, he cannot say on television that Cabinet approved something and then say that it’s not his role to say so in this House.
  
  Hon STUART NASH: What I can say is I do not recall saying that, but what I will say is work is undergoing in this area.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Will the Minister apologise to the mother of Matthew Dow, who would’ve turned 25 today if not killed by a reckless drug-driver, given that he misled her in saying that Cabinet had approved a discussion document and that it was to be released earlier this year?
  
  Rt Hon Winston Peters: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. With the greatest respect, this is certainly no way to treat human tragedy in the way it’s being played out politically in this House, and we, on this side of this House, seriously object. We don’t diminish, in any way—
  
  Hon Michael Woodhouse: Is the question out of order or not?
  
  Rt Hon Winston Peters: —the harm or the hurt that the family might have felt, but this is not the way for this Parliament to behave, surely.
  
  SPEAKER: First of all, I want to deal with the person who interjected during that point of order. Who was that?
  
  Hon Michael Woodhouse: That would probably have been me, Mr Speaker.
  
  SPEAKER: The member will leave the Chamber.
  
  Hon Michael Woodhouse withdrew from the Chamber.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Point of order, Mr Speaker.
  
  SPEAKER: No. I’m contemplating dealing with this point of order. This is a very serious matter. It involves the death of a loved one. I think many of us are concerned at the approach that is being taken in the House now, but in my opinion it is a matter of, at the moment, judgment of good taste and good taste rather than a matter, at the moment, of order. So if Dr Smith wants to restate his question with that proviso—the clear indication from me that there’s a question of taste and appropriateness involved here—but he is a very senior member, and, obviously, the public will make their judgment on it.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. You have rightly noted this is a serious matter. A key part of that is the accuracy of the quote, and I accept that—
  
  SPEAKER: Order! The member has been invited to ask his supplementary question again, as he did previously before he was interrupted by the Deputy Prime Minister. No one has doubted his word as far as the accuracy of that quote is concerned. All we’ve had is the Minister saying that he can’t recall saying it.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Will the Minister apologise to the Dow family and to the people of New Zealand for his false statement, and I quote, “There’s a discussion document that’s been approved by Cabinet that’s going to go out to the public early next year” when that was untrue?
  
  Hon STUART NASH: I have absolute sympathy for the Dow family, and your loss—I cannot imagine it. I will not apologise for something I have absolutely no responsibility for. For every family that has lost someone on our roads because there is a drink- or drug-driver, I have absolute sympathy. What I can say is work is going on in this area, though. Another thing I would say is Mr Scott brought a member’s bill to the House last year. I sat down with him and I tried to work with him on this, because we felt that the scope of his bill was too narrow. We asked to work with him. He refused to do that, so this Government undertook to address this in a way that actually addressed the issue.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Supplementary.
  
  SPEAKER: No. The member’s run out of supplementaries.
  
  Smith then took a Point of Order:
  
  Land Transport (Roadside Drug Testing) Amendment Bill—Leave to Set Down as First Members’ Order of the Day
  
  Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson): I seek leave of the House for the Land Transport (Roadside Drug Testing) Amendment Bill to be set down to be set down as the first members’ order of the day on the next members’ day on 22 May.
  
  SPEAKER: Leave is not going to be granted for that.
  
  Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson): I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. You need to put the leave.
  
  SPEAKER: Well, I’ve made it absolutely clear that I won’t grant leave for it.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Oh, you’re opposed to helping getting drug-drivers off the road as well?
  
  SPEAKER: I have made it absolutely clear that I am very unhappy with the member and his approach—
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: For standing up for my constituents?
  
  SPEAKER: The member will leave the House.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Soft on drugs like the Government.
  
  SPEAKER: Order! Right, no—come back, please. The member will resume his seat.
  
  It is a long-established convention that any Member may ask for leave for pretty much anything, but that if any other Member objects, leave is not granted. I have never however heard a Speaker refuse to put leave because was unhappy with a Member.
  
  Mallard seems to have an anger problem. He was convicted of fighting in a public place after an altercation in Parliament with National MP Tau Henare. He has probably been ejected from the House as often as any other current MP, with the possible exception of Rt Hon. Winston Peters. Check out this video from 2009, when Mallard was kicked out of the House by Speaker Lockwood Smith, giving Smith a gobful on the way out:
  
  https://youtu.be/SqQh_fqmJ_Y
  
  On that occasion Smith considered naming Mallard, but declined to do so. He did however counsel Labour MP’s that Mallard needed to “deal with his anger”. Yesterday, Mallard’s reaction to Nick Smith was that of an angry man, and of a poacher turned gamekeeper.
  
  Is he a fit person to hold the role of Speaker? I suggest that question is going to be asked more after the events of the last couple of days.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:20am
  - alloytoo
    
    It would appear on the face of it that Mallard is spending a great deal of time covering for the PM and her ministers and when it becomes bleeding obvious that he can’t do so any longer (or he happens not to like the minister) then he papers over the mess by awarding supplementary questions which he stops the opposition from using properly anyway.
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:26am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    It was a disgusting exhibition by the speaker and should mark the beginning of the end of his tenure in the role.
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:28am
    - freethinker
      
      Can a motion of no confidence in the speaker be put forward – I know it wouldn’t succeed but would send a serious message, especially if it is a precedent.
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:16am
  - Prince
    
    Mallard is a disgrace.
    Jones spends $3B on his mates in a re-election fund.
    Immigration is managed on a mates basis.
    Benefits are increased by stealth through emergency grants and adding the fathers’ contribution on the side.
    Health outcome stats are hidden from the public.
    
    The most corrupt government since the 1800’s.
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:29am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Which government in the 1800s do you consider to be the most currupt?
      
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      May 9, 2019 8:48am
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        Keep that flag flying Mike…
        
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        May 9, 2019 8:53am
      - Prince
        
        Actually don’t know but thought I should give this lot the benefit of the doubt.
        
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        May 9, 2019 10:11am
      - Tall Man
        
        You don’t have the balls to defend the most corrupt government ever so you chuck out a juvenile comment? Not up to much really are you?
        
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        May 9, 2019 11:46am
      - Nookin
        
        Ii thought that the reference to 1880s may have been an arbitrary exaggeration. It seems that the comment is well founded. https://www.parliament.nz/en/visit-and-learn/how-parliament-works/fact-sheets/participation/
        
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        May 10, 2019 4:51am
  - Rich Prick
    
    And we thought Margaret Wilson was bad. Mallard takes it to a whole new level.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:41am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Well said Tony. The answer is clear, worst and most partisan speaker since Wilson. He discredits the House and himself.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:47am
  - B Phillips
    
    I think they all made a mockery of the house and themselves.
    Smith’s stunt was in bad taste and didn’t offer dignity to the family of the deceased, the house or himself
    Nash has lied, in the house and to the public and needs to apologise and sort his shit out, instead of being a moderate voice and centrist future for labour he is a Buffoon.
    Mallard I don’t actually mind as speaker, no where as bad as Wilson but certainly no Lockwood Smith as the videos show. But he has let himself down by over reaching, over reacting and losing his cool once again.
    An embarrassing episode for all involved and not worthy of the house.
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:01am
    - godruelf
      
      Sorry but reading the reports I don’t think the mother Karen Dow was upset at all by Nick Smith’s actions. She did however appear upset with Nash and Mallard.
      
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      May 9, 2019 1:09pm
      - B Phillips
        
        Late reply sorry, just because the mum wasn’t upset doesn’t mean it was the right course of action/handled the best way.
        
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        May 9, 2019 11:32pm
- G152
  
  Looks like the liars and their protector got caught out there then.
  And good on Nick Smith for making a point of it.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:32am
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Something for KBs Wowser and Morality Police .One Nation Senator Steve Dixon ( family values man ) caught red handed groping the breasts of a Stripper on a boozy night out on the town.

https://youtu.be/WvuJT4p9Mvs

Poor Pauline crestfallen as she changes from crimson to ashen grey contemplating One Nations decidedly diminished election prospects this month
https://www.google.co.nz/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/11058630

Lessons here for the fledgeling New Conservatives? Even those contemplating the unthinkable and joining National.

Feedback invited please on this One Nation fiasco!
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May 9, 2019 8:08am
- kowtow
  
  The question really is why did a foreign player , Al Jazeera , spend so much time and effort , to interfere in Australian politics .
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:41am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Really? Do you also wonder why foreign-owned media run operations here too? or is it jts somethnig about Al Jazeera’s funny sounding name that has your hackles up?
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:50am
    - kowtow
      
      Three / four year undercover operations ?
      Do tell .
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:44am
  - alloytoo
    
    Because the yanks were too busy trying to create an imaginary collusion between “The Don” and the “Red Menace.”
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:17am
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow, I take it you would object if say Fox did a expose of the Labour Youth Camp” scandal.”
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:37am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Sorry dude, the Herald got in first with that one. Fox hardly ever takes an interest in New Zealand, more is the pity.
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:01am
    - BobbyS
      
      Speaking of the Labour Youth Camp scandal
      Why has the MSM gone all quiet on that?
      The trial was meant to be in the Akld district court in March
      Has the MSM been told NOT to cover it by Mein Cindy Fuhrer?
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:14am
- freethinker
  
  No relevance in NZ, just like you.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:18am
- RW Capitalist
  
  You mean it was similar to Hipkins interfering in Aussie politics re the citizenship scandal.
  and the now wonder why our relationship with Aus. is the worst it’s been in 40 years, since CER first can about.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:20am
hullkiwi

According to his and Jacinda’s responses yesterday, in the next few weeks, Twyford is going to have to admit that the CoL are not going to deliver 100,000 KiwislumBuild homes over 10 years. This is a major fail on a Labour flagship policy and 2 flagship Labour policies of the last 9 years thrown under the wheels of a passing truck.
So:
1. When is Twyford going to admit he doesn’t know what he is doing and resign from Parliament (he is even a fail as a MP);
2. When is Jacinda going to admit her 2017 manifesto was a fraud, and she became PM on a bunch of promises that were not real; and
3. When are the media going to hold the fraudulent CoL to account.

….and to add to it is the Pike River sham, Hipkins education reforms – all a case of politics before governance.
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May 9, 2019 8:09am
- Paulus
  
  Not Ardern’s Government – Peters is still in charge.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:36am
- krazykiwi
  
  I think the answers to your good questions are: Never, never and never.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:37am
- Rich Prick
  
  Let’s not forget the billion trees, all we got was mulch. Which sums up Labour’s year of delivery.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:05am
  - Paulus
    
    But I thought I heard this morning on RNZ with Greens James twit that Farmers would not be allowed to plant trees on their farms under the new Climate Change gas regulations ?
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:45pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  They are aiming to be members of the 1% club
  Which used to mean, you are in the top 1% of
  achievers
  wealthy
  etc
  In there case it is “re calibrated” to mean.
  They will achieve 1% of everything they said they would.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:24am
Happychappy

It doesn’t matter that Speakers are supposed to be neutral in Parliament in NZ as you have jounalists like bearly sober that couldn’t care less that they have breached the trust of the NZ voter and MSM couldn’t care less .

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12229144
This Government could get away with murder as our MSM are not prepared to tell the facts of what they are doing.
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May 9, 2019 8:13am
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  How did you get the ‘facts’ then?
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:51am
  - Tall Man
    
    Umm, maybe he watched it on the telly….
    
    You are a bit slow there mikey, reflected in the way you vote I suppose.
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:38am
- iMP
  
  That’s hardly fair. The MSM told us John ‘marvellous to have you here’ Campbell was wearing striped socks at his new gig.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:59am
pdm

A question which has to be asked.

Should a person who cannot control their temper hold the position of speaker in the New Zealand Parliament?
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May 9, 2019 8:13am
- Tony Stuart
  
  That’s an outstanding question pdm. Mallard has shown on many previous occasions that he has a very short fuse, and that, as much as anything, questions his suitability for the role of Speaker.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:29am
- Rachael Membery
  
  He probably thinks he out machoed the gorilla.
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:13pm
- alien
  
  I think both smith and carter both lost their temper a few times in the chair and it was always with the same person, mallard.
  
  Although I do think mallard does have some good points as speaker, like punishing ministers for their quality of written answers. I wouldn’t mind him as speaker if he was fair. Peters should of been kicked out a few times recently and isn’t. Jacinda gets away without answering. Smith in my view was the best speaker. I do wonder if the speaker should not be a politician.
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:29pm
slightlyrighty

Can someone explain to me how making NZ Carbon Neutral will have any effect on Global Carbon Emissions, seeing as NZ produces 0.17% of the Global Total? By the way, Our Land area as a country is also 0.17% of the Global Total.

China has 6% of Global Land, but produces 27% of Global emissions.

The US has 6% of land, but produces nearly 15% of Global emissions

We are not the problem.
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May 9, 2019 8:14am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes NZ is a drop in the bucket and we should not worry at all about our emissions as they feed much of the world.
  China also should not have to worry as most of their emissions are as a result of the stuff they make for the rest of the world.
  I’d just like to see huge urgent action on over- population in countries such as Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Uganda.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:31am
- G152
  
  The greens are playing touchee feelie games.
  We have the population size of a large overseas city and as much influence on the spurious ‘global warming’ claims as any one of those cities.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:40am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Call that a medium sized overseas city.
    Large cities now have the population of Australia.
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    There are at least 75 cities that have a population greater than that of NZ
    https://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm
    
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    May 9, 2019 2:17pm
- hullkiwi
  
  SR it is all about, feelz, the look and showboating.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:47am
- Albert_Ross
  
  It would be extremely effective if we could serve as a demonstration case, illustrating that emissions reduction can be done in market-compatible ways that don’t cripple the economy and can even have impacts that are positive for living standards, for that would be likely to encourage others to do likewise.
  
  We will however achieve nothing if the Greens continue to refuse even to consider the potential of such technologies as nuclear energy and genetic engineering. If we demonstrate only that emissions reduction entails massive economic, social and political cost, we will likely have the opposite impact
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:55am
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    Actually this “demonstration case” argument is fatally flawed. If by 2050 we have managed to get to net zero and still have a thriving economy, then according to the climate change gurus it will be too late for the big emitters to follow our lead. We will already have runaway catastrophic warming.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:37am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘ serve as a demonstration case, ‘
    
    It’s already been demonstrated that using Fracking to extract Gas and use that instead of coal will lower emissions.
    And ensure the economy stays strong.
    Of course our Govt has banned all future Gas exploration…
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:52am
  - rockape
    
    I for one am glad they are planting all these trees. They will be needed to keep warm when global cooling comes for the next 100 years.
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:00am
  - Local Miller
    
    Everyone was holding Germany up as the great showcase of how going to renewables was such a success. Read the latest Beeld and you see it was all smoke and mirrors, costing billions in government subsidies, and now that the agreed subsidies are coming to an end it’s all turning to custard. I can’t see what makes anyone think that NZ with its tiny economy in relative terms has the capacity to absorb the cost of going “green”, even with nuclear energy (which I agree would be the best option).
    And we are talking about going to renewables at a massive cost to our economy, where 1) We are less than a drop in the ocean WRT “greenhouse gas emissions”‘ and 2) The AGW debate is a long way from settled, particularly with the AGW advocates propensity for selective reporting (AKA lying).
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:43am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Euro-Green Energy flop
      https://notrickszone.com/2019/05/08/100-renewables-at-764-euros-per-household-per-month-germanys-4-6-trillion-euro-green-energies-flop/
      
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      May 9, 2019 2:20pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Well, someone asked Russell Norman pretty much just that yesterday. His answer was that as NZ would be particularly badly damaged by climate change (very questionable), we will need to ask USA, China and India to save us. We can’t do that if we aren’t playing our part. So the hope is that if we reduce we will be able to threaten, persuade or shame the big emitters to follow our lead. Of course it makes no sense. They will act as they always do – in their own best interests regardless of what we do.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:09am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  we export about 7 million tonnes of food a year. enough to feed about 20 million people (particularly as it is biased towards high protein animal products that require more land).
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:28am
Scott

“One treaty, One nation” by Hugh Barr, Don Brash et al is a great read for those concerned about the treaty of waitangi settlements. Historian Bruce Moon contributes a chapter about Ngai Tahu, a very greedy Tribe.
Apparently Ngai Tahu have had settlements for their land 5 times! And still they go back for me having recently been awarded millions of dollars of top ups.

Ngai Tahu are characterised by Bruce Moon as Johny come latelys from the North Island who slaughtered local South Island tribes. They were then fallen upon in retaliation by more powerful North Isle tribes and found themselves at a low ebb. They survived by marrying into the vigorous white settlers and that’s why current Ngai Tahu are more white than anything else.

They never cultivated more than 2% of the South island and there seems very little way that such a small Tribe can own the South Island!

But still their leaders are doing very well thank you given the generous settlements which enables the tribal elite to live in an extremely prosperous manner. Also their tribal businesses are tax free which gives them enormous competitive advantage.

Ngai Tahu are but an example of extremely contentious claims that are being awarded to these tribes to basically pay them off to avoid actually seeking the truth. Millions and millions of dollars are going from you, the taxpayer, to these tribal interests with no expectation this gravy train will actually stop in the foreseeable future.

This should be an election issue and would be if the media ever reported honestly about the treaty “settlements”.
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May 9, 2019 8:18am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  there seems very little way that such a small Tribe can own the South Island!
  
  That’s an interestng idea. What kind of quota do you think should be set for land ownership by an individual, a family or an extended kin group? For myself, I can’t see any reason why a person or a family needs to own more than one farm, for example, but I am interested in what mechanism you are proposing to place restrictions on land owndership.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:54am
  - Jack5
    
    A good deal of Ngai Tahu’s Treaty successes can be put down to former National Minister Chris Finlayson, who before his political career acted for the tribe. Later as Treaty Minister he was able to sign off a generous top-up for it.
    
    Former National Minister Doug Graham was party to the signing off at least one of Ngai Tahu’s big deals: the first right – in perpetuity, i.e. for ever – to buy State assets being sold in the South Island.
    
    The tribe has been smart in its hiring of business executives, and smart in its political acumen.
    
    Apart from its businesses operating, under group charity registration, free of company tax, the tribe has had a National list MP (Nuk), and Nuk’s wife chairs the board of State-appointed trustees who control assets from the sale of the region’s savings banks (the trust has a new Maori name).
    
    Ngai Tahu approves all research topics at the University of Otago, and has a tribal research centre at the University of Canterbury.
    
    The tribe has been prominent in the introducing Maori names in Christchurch. The $100 million new central library, for example, is Turanga, complete with a macron.
    
    A recent knockback has been loss of the move to have representatives on the Canterbury Environmental Council, though this may yet be circumvented — by reserving places on council committees.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:55am
  - Ford Prefect
    
    It probably equates to how likely they were to traverse and use the land. If your primitive technology meant you could only travel by foot, then your community would be small in size. As technology has advanced, mankind has been able to spread out, as a days travel can now be vast.
    
    I dont believe Ngai Tahu were nomadic, so they probably weren’t constantly wandering the plains, therefore they must have settled and farmed in small communities possible never even visiting most of the South Island.
    
    Did they even know they were on an island?
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:14am
- Ross12
  
  Scott
  There was a great little book ( about 100 -150 pages) written in the 1980’s by a guy from Dunedin called, I think, “The Travesty of Waitangi” which details among other things the Ngai Tahu story.
  A must read for those interested.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:38am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Pseudohistory.
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:09am
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      Pseudocomment
      
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      May 9, 2019 1:39pm
- Scott
  
  Mikey – good question. Let me put it another way. The Ngai Tahu numbered about 500 people scratching out a bare living at the eastern tip of the South Island. In what sense can those 500 people own the whole South Island?
  
  And why should they be compensated with final settlements five times? And why should they be now given top ups of literally hundreds of millions of dollars?
  
  I’m sure that taxpayers, given the chance to examine these circumstances, would have reason to feel aggrieved. They are paying out literally hundreds of millions of dollars to the mostly white descendants of a very small tribe for the whole of the South Island, when the facts are that most of the South Island was empty of human inhabitants.
  
  Do we want our children and their children to continue to pay out this one small tribe in perpetuity? I suspect most of us don’t?
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:49am
brett68

If anyone’s interested in doing a daily crossword, sudoku, code cracker for free.

https://www.mindfood.com/thinkandwin/puzzles

Think they’re the same puzzles as what whaleoil charges people for.
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May 9, 2019 8:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  Brett thanks.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:31am
- Lance
  
  Still free on the Herald as well
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:37am
  - brett68
    
    You’re right.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/puzzles-games/index.cfm?c_id=1500944
    
    How can whale oil charge people for something that’s free everywhere else?
    
    Their bronze package for $120 a year is an absolute rip off, you’re getting nothing for it.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:23am
    - rockape
      
      You get yesterdays news.
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:01am
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      Other than the content, the site and the bandwidth…. WO gives us noting.
      
      Whaleoil is trying to generate enough revenue to fund the business. They tried using advertising, and the SJWs piled on to deplatform them and to boycott advertisers.
      
      What would you suggest as a means to fund the site?
      
      I note that DPF runs this site as a sideline. It may be marketing for Curia, or for DPF’s own brand, but it is unusual for a media organisation not to try and pay the bills. So how about canning the fake “outrage”.
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:30am
      - brett68
        
        I have no issue with whale oil charging money for their content.
        
        The point is the bronze subscription is nothing more than a donation to Whaleoil, you’re getting nothing that can’t be found elsewhere for free.
        
        You’ve got to be a bit sharper than that, how about a automatic 15% discount off every meat pack? , a free meat rub with every new subscription, a whale oil cap, shopping bag etc, etc.
        
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        May 9, 2019 12:06pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      The same warm feeling one used to get as a kid when one pissed ones pants; Immediate relief and satisfaction then horrible guilt and shame when someone finds out or points out ones shortcomings
      
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      May 9, 2019 11:57am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      It’s a free market.
      
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      May 9, 2019 4:40pm
- Ford Prefect
  
  Anyone know of a free cryptic crossword online?
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:16am
  - Tall Man
    
    ardern’s press releases?
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:30am
alloytoo

For a while now I have been referencing the PM to the movie Zoolander and to “Blue Steel.”

It occurred to me yesterday that many didn’t understand why I was doing so.

You see Jacinda has a “Go to” non smiling look.

It’s supposed to be empathic, or tolerant or whatever, but mostly I think it’s confused.

You can find it here:
https://reason.com/2019/03/29/in-new-zealand-democracy-turns-illiberal/

It reminds me of Ben Stiller’s Derek Zoolander character (from the Zoolander Movie) with his patented “Blue Steel” look.

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/Blue_Steel

It might just be me, but while everyone goes on about how empathic etc the PM is, it would appear to me that she has 3-4 basic faces that she employs to give that impression.
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May 9, 2019 8:21am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  She’s also been working on a softer look for Wymyn’s day and kindergarten visits – “La Tigra”
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:12am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I can definitely imagine a “Cindy Ardern centre for children who can’t read good”
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:43am
  - alloytoo
    
    Perhaps a picture book explaining GDP? (and GCT and GST…..)
    
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    May 9, 2019 12:03pm
Captain Mainwaring

At least the name Archie has an American connection.
Remember the Archie comics?
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May 9, 2019 8:22am
- tf78
  
  Archie Bunker!!!!
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:56am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    No. Archie, Veronica and Jughead.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:50am
kowtow

The PM’s bizarre non answer about smoking pot has attracted very little in the way of commentary in the media etc and while that’s fair enough in and of itself compare and contrast how same media treated all things Catholic about Bill .

Fair and balanced ?
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May 9, 2019 8:23am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Of course it’s not fair and balanced kowtow. Christians are an easy target.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:31am
- pdm
  
  Boy they were into John Key when he could not remember his position on the 1981 Springbok tour.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:39am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Yes, the current PM was wise not to tell such an obvious lie such as whether she had any opinion at all on the major political event during her time at university.
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:59am
    - hullkiwi
      
      What like Clinton…”I never smoked it, but I may have inhaled the smoke”?
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:21am
    - Tall Man
      
      The only time ardern does not lie is when her mouth is shut.
      
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      May 9, 2019 11:26am
- tf78
  
  I used to flat with two Mormon sisters – they drank and smoked dope – read between the lines there.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:58am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    mormons are anti drug, not even allowed coffee
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:45am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Massive opiod problem amongst the mormon community. Utah 7th highest state for drug overdose.
      
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      May 9, 2019 12:27pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Perhaps nearly 200 years puritanically avoiding drugs has done evolutionary harm to their genetic resistance to addiction (not removing the failures from the gene pool).
        
        Iran is another place with huge addiction issues about 10% of their 80million are addicted to Heroin. Downside of religious nutjobbery?
        
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        May 9, 2019 1:33pm
- alloytoo
  
  I took her reply to mean she smoked an awful lot of it once she left home.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:43am
  - B Phillips
    
    They don’t smoke pot at Raves, especially the DJ’s.
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:11am
kevn

@Tony… Thank you. Who can usurp mallard in this instance? Is there a higher power that can challenge this rubbish from mallard? GG?
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May 9, 2019 8:26am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The most likely scenario would be the Opposition moving a motion of no confidence in the Speaker.
  
  Whilst that would fail because the government has the numbers, I reckon it would be a blow from which Mallard would be unable to recover, and something that would blight his tenure of the job he has coveted for some years.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:38am
  - Lance
    
    The hissy fit afterwards would be hilarious
    
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    May 9, 2019 8:41am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Not going to happen.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:03am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      No? It was narrowly averted last year after National took a raft of complaints to the Speaker. For a while, he was more even-handed.
      
      There’s real dissatisfaction now from the Opposition, and Gerry Brownlee’s barb yesterday about being able to put in a late submission to Mallard’s bullying investigation was a shot across the bows of the Speaker. Watch this space.
      
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      May 9, 2019 9:24am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        No one cares. People who support Labour will approve of the speaker dragging Nick Smith into line. People who support National will be horrified by the speaker’s action.
        It’s all piss and wind – nothing that happens in the house of representatives affects anyone’s perception of political parties or the individual politicians.
        
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        May 9, 2019 10:16am
      - B Phillips
        
        I thought Mallard was going to blow a valve at that point.
        
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        May 9, 2019 11:12am
      - Tall Man
        
        I doubt Colin Moyle would agree with that mikey…..
        
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        May 9, 2019 11:24am
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    Thanks Tony I also have suggested this but no one seems to put up an argument for or against.
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:29am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Any Opposition action against the Speaker would most likely be led by Gerry Brownlee in his role as Shadow Leader of the House. Brownlee gets a mention in my 12.10pm comment below.
      
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      May 9, 2019 12:20pm
  - alien
    
    Would mean nothing, just as labour’s motion of no confidence in carter failed and meant nothing
    
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    May 9, 2019 12:36pm
- Inandout
  
  kevn, Mallard is king of the debating chamber and the left are quite happy with most of his decisions. Trump is king of the White House and the left are unhappy with his decisions. Of course Mallard is a professional trougher politician, Trump is definitely not.
  
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  May 9, 2019 8:48am
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    Trump is an amateur trougher politician?
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:08am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Dumbest thing you have said
      You can’t be an amateur (unpaid)
      and a trougher (in it for the money)
      
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      May 9, 2019 10:37am
      - Tall Man
        
        “Dumbest thing you have said”
        
        So far, he’s still trying.
        
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        May 9, 2019 4:59pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Whereas mallard needs us to fund his trough while Trump has his own.
      
      I wonder if adern the untruthful has followed Trump’s and Sir John Key’s example yet and decided her salary is better used by “charities” than her and the layout “star”…
      
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      May 9, 2019 11:21am
Maggie Pie

Watched ‘Question Time’ again yesterday. Was just a little concerned about the PM’s appearance. She is looking sooo pale and pastry that I think a visit to an Endocrinologist may be of benefit. Compared to Paula, who always looks fit, tanned, and absolutley glowing these days, the PM appears to me she would rather be elsewhere.

The other thing that really upset me, was when Nikki Kaye stood to ask Q7. She was wearing the exact same outfit that I bought from Prada ealier this year! They had assured me it was an ‘exclusive one off design’, yet theres Nikki wearing it as well. I can only assume it must be a ‘knock-off’ she picked up off ebay 🙁

https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=206344
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- stephieboy
  
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  Maggie Pie,
  
  “Compared to Paula, who always looks fit, tanned, and absolutely glowing these days” ??
  
  Addison’s disease or her Maori shining through?
  
  [Mod: Welcome back Stephieboy, but cheap shots like that might make it a short return]
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:42am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    So if I said this about CoL MP it would be racist.
    Go figure.
    
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    May 9, 2019 10:39am
  - B Phillips
    
    Your idiot show shines through
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:14am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy ,I can see the rebirth of barnyard names again septic if you keep dribbling as you are now..
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:01pm
- alloytoo
  
  Did she pay the GST? Or was it below the threshold.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:44am
- freethinker
  
  -Maggiethe PM appears to me she would rather be elsewhere. – Many would also wish she was some where else but are too polite to say exactly where.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:32am
kevn

I discovered today that Rotorua Lakes Council has a Safe and Sustainable Journeys Manager. I guess that then plan is that you ring her to ask permission to travel, then call again to confirm you got there safely? Then do it all again when coming home.
I wonder how many of these folk AT has?
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May 9, 2019 8:58am
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND: The housing affordability problem is a local government costs out of control problem …where they lose their capacity to meet their infrastructure responsibilities …

New Zealand’s growing tax bill: Where’s it going? … Susan Edmunds … Stuff NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/112574757/new-zealands-growing-tax-bill-wheres-it-going

… extracts …

… New Zealand’s Tax Freedom Day falls later than Australia’s, where it happened on April 17 this year, and the United States’. …

… Local government tax revenues were up 9 per cent on last year. …

… “The spike in council revenues really stands out this year. This represents a higher financial burden on businesses and ratepayers, which is concerning. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… Major housing issues announcement mid – June says Housing Minister Twyford …

Interest Co NZ interviews Housing Minister Phil Twyford

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/99563/twyford-refuses-confirm-whether-kiwibuild-recalibration-will-include-100000-house
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… Access just updated article links (including Price Waterhouse Coopers report article) … 2019 Section Performance Urban Planning http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org

The 3 ‘I’s’ of New Zealand’s local government … insolence … ignorance … incompetence.

The seriously ‘out of control’ New Zealand local government sector is intolerable.
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May 9, 2019 8:58am
- Cobolt24
  
  Market conditions right for first-home buyers to jump in, commentators say
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  May 9, 2019 12:43pm
mandk

Football!. Bloody hell.

COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 9, 2019 9:01am
mikenmildagain

Happy Europe Day everyone!
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May 9, 2019 9:07am
- slightlyrighty
  
  I guess having the European Championship played out by Liverpool and spurs can only raise support in Continental Europe for Brexit….
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:00am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Has anyone asked Europe if they are happy?
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:34pm
3-coil

Still no MSM coverage of the death of the NZ soldier last night.

Are the media clowns now censoring all info that is released to the citizens, or are they awaiting their instructions from the Beehive, or are they just too lazy and not out of bed yet….?

Edit: was that Tova O’Brien seen rifling through Simon Bridges’ kerbside rubbish bins late last night??
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May 9, 2019 9:10am
- Tony Stuart
  
  No, it was JLR, dressed as Tova O’Brien 😀
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:32am
  - B Phillips
    
    Sorry Tony. dressed by Tova, no as Tova
    
    Easy mistake to make
    
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    May 9, 2019 11:16am
- stephieboy
  
  3 coil, this Army Major?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110510009/army-major-aaron-couchman-dies-in-an-accident-overseas
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:50am
  - Paulus
    
    I thought Couchman he died as a result of a Road Cycle accident.
    Nothing Military.
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:53pm
  - Swifty
    
    No Stiffy.
    
    That was in Feb.
    
    3-coil said ‘last night’.
    
    Still dim, after all your time away to get your game together I see.
    
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    May 9, 2019 6:46pm
- MCos
  
  No doubt the NZ Army like to control the news as much as they can
  “A member of the New Zealand SAS has died following a training accident in Auckland on Wednesday night.”
  Stuff Breaking News
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:58am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Where did you get the early coverage from?
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:18am
  - MCos
    
    Julian Assange via Pamela Anderson
    
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    May 9, 2019 3:43pm
- alien
  
  Been on the radio news all morning, it was on either stuff or the herald when I was reading the news at 6.30am, newshub since just before 10am. It’s been out there and reported
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:44pm
Jack5

Maorification of State radio has gone further than promoting Maori language.

Radio NZ’s web site today shows Radio NZ highlighting the activist campaign to ruin the 200th anniversary celebration of Captain Cook reaching New Zealand. The report is from the angle of Maori activism.

It begins:

“More than $20 million is being spent on events and resources to mark the anniversary of Cook’s landing in Tūranganui-a-Kiwa, later named Gisborne, in 1769.”

What was effectively Maori control of Radio NZ was negotiated by Wily-Willy Jackson on behalf of the 20-station tribal radio network. He clinched the arrangement under a National-led Government. Radio NZ then, as now, was pushing the Left view hard, but there wasn’t a peep from National about the change.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/388808/20m-captain-cook-commemoration-ignores-maori-pain-critics
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May 9, 2019 9:30am
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5, our nation has come a long way since the days that I can remember when Captian Cook was uncritically idolised and idealized!
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:53am
  - Swifty
    
    He still is by many New Zealanders.
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:30pm
  - Jack5
    
    “Idealized” Stephie X?
    
    I don’t think New Zealand has idealized – or idolised – Captain Cook, undoubtedly a great navigator and seaman.
    
    Cook started the process that brought these islands into the Western world, and hooray for that. He made the first charts of these islands, and the botanist with him, Joseph Banks, pioneered scientific work that would lead to New Zealand becoming economically viable – as an agricultural exporter.
    
    Cook’s NZ-touching voyages, especially the first, are well worth commemorating.
    
    Those who want Polynesian seafaring skills recognised would do well also to acknowledge Cook’s work.
    
    And, MCos, whoops my mistake. Sorry.
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:55pm
- MCos
  
  250th Anniversary
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:03am
- mikenmildagain
  
  ‘Maori control’
  Snigger.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:19am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  since when Maori life expectancy has more than doubled, and they have almost all stopped killing and eating each other. Yay Cook!
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:51am
  - MCos
    
    Life expectancy in England in the 1700’s for the lower classes was in the thirties, mainly due to a woeful diet and healthcare that was more dangerous than no healthcare.
    According to Michael King’s History of New Zealand research suggests Māori at the time lived to around thirty.
    Furthermore Māori were pummeled by introduced diseases, right from first contact with Cook’s men who spread venereal disease.
    
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    May 9, 2019 4:22pm
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      But they didn’t spread disease deliberately.
      Germ theory / immunity were unknown concepts in 1769.
      It wasn’t until late 19th Century-early 20thC, that the causative agents of venereal diseases were identified.
      
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      May 9, 2019 6:47pm
      - nasska
        
        No wonder venereal diseases of the time spread. Despite the efforts of the Godbothering missionaries Maori were no strangers to the laws of supply & demand. European seamen after six months voyage to get here wanted a bit of nooky & Maori girls & women wanted the trinkets & muskets. Years of determined efforts by lefty academics to paint early Maori as noble savages can’t cover up everything. Records of Maori whores swimming out to anchored sailing vessels still exist. Even PC correct Wikipedia contains:
        
        …..”Kororareka developed as a result of this trade but soon earned a very bad reputation as a community without laws and full of prostitution. It became known as the “Hell Hole of the Pacific””…..
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell,_New_Zealand
        
        Maori weren’t innocents raped by evil Whites.
        
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        May 9, 2019 7:26pm
Ross12

A quote from a RNZ article :

“In amongst the split target conversation you’ve got to realise that pretty much everyone is now onboard with saying: ‘yes CO2 has to go to zero, and so does nitrous oxide’, and there aren’t that many countries where there is this much agreement about those two points,” Professor Frame said.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/388796/climate-change-plan-setting-the-bar-so-low

If this is the level of academic thinking and explanation of an idea then universities have gone down hill further than I thought. How are plants meant to survive if we have zero carbon dioxide?
Also do media articles not get proof read or sub edited these days? ( I presume it is meant to read to read “disagreement” not “agreement”)
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May 9, 2019 9:36am
- mikenmildagain
  
  OMG – until your comment, I had no idea that the UN was conspiring to remove all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Why is this not being reported by the MSM?
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:22am
  - Ross12
    
    My comment was to do with the words used by a University professor to explain his point. If you think that the way he worded his explanation is adequate then you prove my point about Universities going down.
    Where does the UN come into it?
    I had to check twice that your comment was not from stephieboy.
    
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    May 9, 2019 12:06pm
    - Doctor Who
      
      Dave Frame is a physicist. He was working at Oxford and is still part-time there. With people like Myles Allen and Ray Pierrehumbert. I don’t think you need worry about his intellect.
      
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      May 9, 2019 1:30pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Don’t have to go to 0ppm CO2 to end life on Earth, just get down to 150ppm and green life dies, and all life becomes extinct. We were at 280ppm, thats just 130ppm above extinction levels…. Greenies, Jacinda and the IPCC just don’t understand science. It’s all slogans and moronic virtue signalling. As I have said before, I hope everyone who promotes this alarmist crap freezes to death during the next cooling period.
  
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  May 9, 2019 1:21pm
  - Doctor Who
    
    … the IPCC just don’t understand science.
    
    I think you need to reassess your knowledge.
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:35pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Read their reports. The summaries are written by international political reps. The Reports come a year later and are a 1000+ pages. They conflict with previous reports but are largely hidden because the Summaries take precedence.
      
      The Third Assessment Report boldly admitted that no forecasts were possible as they were dealing with a chaotic system. The maths didn’t allow it.
      Most of what passes for climate science from the UN is political.
      
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      May 9, 2019 4:50pm
      - Doctor Who
        
        The IPCC reports are a synthesis of the science. The IPCC is the authority.
        
        You are talking absolute nonsense.
        
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        May 9, 2019 5:37pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Which reports though?
        There are different Groups in the IPCC
        It’s only WG1 which studies the physical science
        
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        May 9, 2019 6:04pm
- tf78
  
  Ross – the Greens could do with a large dose of nitrous oxide as they really could do with a good laugh rather than them being the laughing stock.
  
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  May 9, 2019 4:01pm
Monique Watson

Hahahaha. End of her propped up Winston Government.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/112546151/government-to-build-27m-clean-energy-centre-in-taranaki-20m-research-fund
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May 9, 2019 9:46am
- Ross12
  
  $20 million ? Will not last 6 months in any serious research area unless they employ school kids.
  
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  May 9, 2019 9:57am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    From Shane’s fund?
    
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    May 9, 2019 1:11pm
- Prince
  
  Yeah, because the Government bureaucracy is so good at technology breakthrough research.
  A sop for the region. Put them on the Govt payroll.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:04am
iMP

NZ MPs whose siblings killed someone…

1) Kiri Allan
2) John Tamihere
3) …………………..

Went to prison…..
1) Philip Field
2) John Kirk
3) …………………
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May 9, 2019 9:51am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Would make a great cartoon. Do you know any great cartoonists?
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:20am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  You forgot Nikki Kaye (just to keep the balance).
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:25am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yep. And I have sympathy for all three MP’s who should not be judged by the actions of their siblings.
    
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    May 9, 2019 12:16pm
- MCos
  
  There’s a few more more skeletons than that that are probably best left in the cupboard.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:29am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Only alleged at this point.
  
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  May 9, 2019 1:12pm
Happychappy

Jacinda thinks giving 27 Million dollars to Taranaki as a investment for them to find clean energy will make up for what her Captains call took away. This is a joke if she thinks that amount of money will help as Japan , China , America and other Countries have invested over a billion dollars and still haven’t perfected it. They can’t even build houses and keep their promises and their zero road toll took another hit yesterday with another three killed on our roads. Twenty seven Million is pittance as a investment in something like this and is just another con from a very poor Government.
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May 9, 2019 9:52am
Hugh Pavletich

Houston named the most affordable housing market for the middle class – CultureMap Houston

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/real-estate/05-06-19-houston-most-affordable-place-buy-home-middle-class/

When we talk about affordability, it’s often in relation to just one economic group, but a new study offers a more nuanced picture of housing affordability in Houston — and good news for a large portion of the middle class.

Houston is America’s most affordable housing market for lower- and middle-middle class families, according to LendingTree, which analyzed housing affordability in the nation’s 50 largest metros for its study. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 9, 2019 10:00am
- Hard Cheese
  
  The reasons are are obvious. Texas has cheap land for Africa, they have a competitive building industry and the advantages of economy of scale.
  
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  May 9, 2019 7:31pm
iMP

…(or are accused of killing someone)…
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May 9, 2019 10:06am
redeye

If your hoping to watch the Rugby World Cup on Spark Sports I thought you might be interested in my latest chat with the help team.

Michael W: Hi Mark, my name is Michael, how may I help you?
Me: I am thinking of purchasing a WC pass. Can you tell me, will you have an app for my Samsung smart TV before them, or will I be forced to watch the event on my computer?
Michael W: Yes we will Mark – we’ll have one up for models of Samsung Smart TVs from 2017 onwards by month’s end. What year is your Smart TV from?
Me: 2016
Michael W: Oooooh, ok, so some selected Smart TVs in 2016 will also have access
Michael W: We are working through a list to determine which ones will be able to use our app
Me: it’s a UA55JU6400SXNZ. Does that help
Michael W: It does – but we haven’t tested all of them yet so I can’t give you a yes or no answer yet
Me: your RWC offer expires on 31st May. Will you have an answer before then?
Michael W: Certainly should – let me ask the TV tech guru for you right now so I can give you a date.
Michael W: We haven’t scheduled any testing quite yet and we’d hate to get your hopes up that it will work, and then you buy a pass, and then it does not work. I’m sorry I can’t give you better information at this stage. The best option would be to periodically check in. I have also sent your contact details and TV information to the team that will be doing testing – with any luck they’ll have a chance to test this model before May’s end and we can let you know one way or the other.
Me: Perhaps you should have developed your delivery technology before you bid on the rights. I think it’s about time to get the media involved.
Thanks for your time
Michael W: Developing technology like this is an organic process and takes time to get it right. We’re still learning, but we know we’re going to delivery a great World Cup to the country. We’re sorry that we do not support all mediums of viewing all games – but I have done my best for you Mark, and you will be contacted as soon as we’ve tested your TV.

They sound like they are being run by our current government.
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May 9, 2019 10:34am
- rangitoto
  
  You can always use an hdmi cable, or even screen cast if your TV supports it,
  
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  May 9, 2019 11:45am
- Prince
  
  Physical cable or casting should work.
  
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  May 9, 2019 3:20pm
Jack5

The bravery of the two country cops who rammed the Christchurch massacre shooter’s car and took him alive contrasts with what happened in the Muslim extremists’ knife massacre on London bridge.

The London police “finished off” the three wounded extremist attackers as they lay on the ground. The cops were concerned the Islamicists might have explosive devices.

In Christchurch, the two capturing policemen saw explosives in the fleeing man’s car, but were undeterred.

A long life in prison without chance of parole is probably a heavier penalty than death. But if I were in one of the London policemen’s shoes I think I would have pulled the trigger.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7005671/London-Bridge-hero-swung-skateboard-terrorists-wearing-fake-suicide-vests.html
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May 9, 2019 10:50am
- MickMac
  
  jack5
  risk is:
  1. they carry on attacking.
  2. they blow themselves up.
  3. they blow one of their team up.
  4. they communicate (phone or RF ) with a third party who does same
  
  better deadhead them.
  
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  May 10, 2019 7:54am
The Heat

Cindys weak spot – well, the biggest one – is performance.

National should reinforce the photoshoots as a negative. i.e. every time single she has one, talk about how she appears more concerned with posing for cameras than making lives better for everyday Kiwis. Then talk about the economy.

Create the notion that posing means less food on your plate.
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May 9, 2019 11:06am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Remember how for months Labour’s attack team, led by Trevor Mallard, referred to John Key as “Smile and Wave”. I mean, he’s even forever recorded in Hansard for the phrase!
  
  Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) : I would like to talk to clauses 1 to 3 of the Holidays Amendment Bill, but probably in a slightly unusual order. I would like to start with clause 2 and focus on the Royal assent. I think it would be inappropriate to do it on 1 April. Today we have the announcement of the impending marriage of Will and Kate in the spring of 2011, which in British terms, of course, means the wedding could well be held on April Fool’s Day. I have made it very clear, and my Facebook friends all know, that I think Will’s dad should not be the King. But it does not mean that Will and Kate should not get married; there is nothing wrong with that. The question is whether, on their honeymoon, they could pop into New Zealand and, using the royal prerogative, sign the bill. Could Will sign the bill?
  
  Darien Fenton: I’m sure they would love that.
  
  Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Well, of course. If they really thought New Zealand was important, they could have the wedding at Huka Lodge or at one of the churches in Wainuiōmata, or at a number of places like that, and as part of the general documentation the Royal assent to this legislation could occur.
  
  Sue Moroney: John would love to go with them.
  
  Hon TREVOR MALLARD: John would smile and wave, and he probably would not even walk away if the Royal assent was applied in that way.
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:06pm
  - The Heat
    
    Yes. It didn’t really work with Key, because Key also had substance, especially when it came to the important area of the economy.
    
    The PM also smiles and waves, but doesn’t have anything to back it up, especially when it comes to the important area of the economy.
    
    So linking the two will have resonance. That way, every time there is a Women’s Weekly style photoshoot this can be an advertisement for Nationals sound economic management.
    
    Needs repetition. Needs a clear positioning effort.
    
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    May 9, 2019 2:38pm
Suze Wainwright

We’ve actually got it all wrong and have been really unkind to Winston and his role in establishing our current beloved government.
Winston in his dotage is now at a stage in life where he wants to appear as the kindly, gracious, wisely old koroua and impart his years of wisdom, knowledge and experience onto a willing apprentice.
We really just need to think of Winston as being the responsible mentor – or kaiwhakaako – to our keen young PM.
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May 9, 2019 11:28am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Hah! LOL…
  
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  May 9, 2019 11:28am
Maggie Pie

1ZB Breaking News @ 11:37am

Kerry Woodham ‘….charged by Hedgehog while hanging out her washing’
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May 9, 2019 11:39am
- sooty
  
  The hedgehog won!
  
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  May 9, 2019 12:30pm
Tony Stuart

Gerry Brownlee got a great zinger in against Mallard yesterday; in fact it was so good, he repeated it! This came immediately after the motion to name Nick Smith had been passed by the House:

Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam): I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I wonder in what close proximity to today’s most recent events we might see the release of the Debbie Francis report into parliamentary bullying.

SPEAKER: If the member would care to come either to the Business Committee or the Parliamentary Service Commission, as he is entitled to, he will find out.

Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam): I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Would the Speaker be prepared to take a late submission to that report?

SPEAKER: No.

Isn’t it ironic that the only MP in my lifetime ever to have appeared in court as the result of a fight with another MP within the precincts of Parliament has instituted an investigation into bullying in Parliament. Does he have a mirror in his office, and if so, does he ever look at himself in it?
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May 9, 2019 12:10pm
Tall Man

Something to consider, if there is a labor victory in Australia next week expect a few planeloads of Manus Island etc refugees to be winging their way to a town near you…..
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May 9, 2019 12:13pm
Tall Man

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/05/08/listening-to-multimillionaire-mike-hoskings-thoughts-on-beneficiaries-is-like-listening-to-trumps-views-on-feminist-folk-music/

Oh the irony, Mike Hosking get paid shitloads to voice his opinions….. this tosser has to beg for money so he can express his…..

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May 9, 2019 12:28pm
- alien
  
  I disagree with hosking that the increase is because they got rid of the different testings. I think the 13,00p more on unemployment is because the economy is in the shitter
  
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  May 9, 2019 1:51pm
  - Tall Man
    
    It’s a bit of both but the removal of sanctions has been a windfall for many “professional beneficiary units”.
    
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    May 9, 2019 4:54pm
Cobolt24

Market conditions right for first-home buyers to jump in, commentators say.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/112561126/market-conditions-right-for-firsthome-buyers-to-jump-in-commentators-say
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May 9, 2019 12:44pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Even still, Twyford’s shit-boxes will sit empty and unloved. Guarantee it.
  
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  May 9, 2019 2:26pm
KevO'Brien

For the worriers (and taxpayers) among us:
http://joannenova.com.au/2019/05/adapting-to-climate-change-its-in-our-genes-extinction-threat-is-over-rated/

The 1,000,000 extinctions is another computer number without reality.
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May 9, 2019 12:58pm
KevO'Brien

A serious scientist looks towards future cooling:
http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-co2-derangement-syndrome-millennial.html

More taxes for a socialist UN dream state?
Do we really have to scare the children?
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May 9, 2019 1:00pm
krazykiwi

Here’s a great example of an online news service working hard to make their content enjoyable and accessible: Wild abandon.
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May 9, 2019 4:02pm
Happychappy

The scourge of NZ Politics and who many consider NZ Politics most corrupt Politician has a crack at Nick Smith, Simom Bridges in Parliament this afternoon.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/winston-peters-calls-national-party-leaderless-rabble-during-pointed-parliamentary-address-v1
This from someone with a serious caution over the Glenn donation saga and several other dodgy dealings.
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May 9, 2019 4:11pm
Tokyo_Joe

Mark Latham’s stupendous Maiden Speech, NSW Legislative Council, 8 May 2019.

If only NZ had just one politician with a spine to say what Mark Latham said.

https://www.facebook.com/MarkLathamsOutsiders/posts/2684191324955523?__tn__=K-R

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/mark-latham-unleashes-in-maiden-speech-how-did-our-nation-come-to-this/news-story/a432539f6513a9a119bba178acae408f

The readers’ comments in The Australian’s article speak volumes as to how so many people identify and agree with Mark’s views.
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May 9, 2019 6:15pm
- Ross12
  
  Thanks for bringing this to our attention TJ.
  
  As you say, just one politician in NZ with that much spine would do wonders for us.
  (BTW I think you mean the comments on FB. The Australian is behind a paywall for most of us)
  
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  May 9, 2019 7:21pm
alien

I find this to be a political bias article by listing national first. They are not in government, it’s not done alphabetical. And also at the end of the day whose businesses is it what a politician privately owns

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/the-number-of-properties-owned-by-mps-revealed.html
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May 9, 2019 6:36pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Heh; Labour MP Raymond Huo co-owns no fewer than NINE rental properties!
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:06pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Four and a half then?
    
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    May 10, 2019 6:48pm
krazykiwi

Australia’s state-of-the-art $50 note misspells responsibility.

Millions of banknotes have typographical error that was overlooked by central bank before printing and circulation. It is the most widely circulated note in Australia, accounting for nearly half of the total value of other banknotes in use and has been hailed for its multiple security features, including microprint of a speech by the country’s first female parliamentarian, Edith Cowan.

But it also comes with a rather embarrassing typographical error.

The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) has spelled “responsibility” as “responsibilty” on millions of new Australian dollar 50 ($35) banknotes which came into circulation on October 18 last year.
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May 9, 2019 7:13pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Excellent stuff
No one should be sacked by their employer for statements of genuine belief and faith that have got nothing to do with their job.

The Folau case exposes the new serfdom in the Australian workplace: how big companies, the corporate PC-elites are wanting to control all aspects of their employees’ lives – their religious and political views, how they speak and think, how they behave, even in their own time away from the workplace.

This is a stunning intrusion on workers’ rights.

Yet far from condemning the new serfdom, Labor and the trade unions have been cheering it on.
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May 9, 2019 7:24pm
- nasska
  
  ….”No one should be sacked by their employer for statements of genuine belief and faith that have got nothing to do with their job”…..
  
  Maybe. What the Godaddled who have rushed to the Folau’s cause neglect is that if he had been a boner at the local freezing works no one would listen to what he said & fewer would care.
  
  It is only his athletic ability, enabled & showcased by his employment that gives him a platform to promote his version of the crap he believes in.
  
  His “fame” is a product. The question is….who owns it.
  
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  May 9, 2019 7:45pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    That’s not the question I was highlighting…
    
    I was interested in the hypocrisy of the Left.. who don’t protect the “worker” from the Big corporate Boss.
    
    The Left – selling out the workers since forever.
    
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    May 9, 2019 9:44pm
Wired-one

Oh great, Tova and Jamie Lee Ross have come out with another hit piece on Simon Bridges…this time over the gifts he has declared. I knew they should have got rid of that twat Ross months ago ffs.
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May 9, 2019 8:01pm
rightoverlabour

anyone else having problems accessing Youstupidboy

https://ysb.co.nz/
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May 9, 2019 8:51pm
- Tall Man
  
  Nope.
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:53pm
- alien
  
  Gets boring when a site is so rubbish you have to keep advertising it here
  
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  May 9, 2019 11:00pm
Hugh Pavletich

Australia’s riskiest suburbs for home loans revealed as banks push for higher deposits … Australian Broadcasting Corporation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-09/australia-riskiest-suburbs-for-home-loans-revealed/11056136

A new crackdown on property lending has emerged in the wake of the Banking Royal Commission, with borrowers now being asked for deposits of up to 30 per cent and banks throwing greater scrutiny on location and living expenses when assessing loans.

The pull back on new finance comes in the wake of a scathing assessment of the nation’s banks delivered by Commissioner Kenneth Hayne.

But the squeeze on credit has coincided with tumbling house prices on the east coast, creating what analysts have branded a “perfect storm” for borrowers trying to access finance. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Fear time: ABC reveals bank’s mortgage “blacklist” – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/fear-time-abc-reveals-banks-mortgage-blacklist/
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Realtors, construction workers smashed by housing bust – MacroBusiness

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/realtors-construction-workers-smashed-housing-bust/
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May 9, 2019 9:19pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … ITALY …
  
  Pack your bags. A town in Italy is selling homes for just over US$1 … Star com
  
  https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2019/05/09/pack-your-bags-a-town-in-italy-is-selling-homes-for-just-over-us1/
  
  HONG KONG (SCMP): There is no doubting Hong Kong’s reputation as the world’s most expensive city to own a house in. But halfway across the world in the town of Mussomeli, in central Sicily, residents are selling abandoned houses for €1 (US$1.12) each.
  
  People may see it as a cruel joke, but Valeria Sorce, a property agent in Mussomeli told the Post that more than 100 houses in the town’s old quarter were indeed being sold as advertised on the website, … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  https://www.case1euro.it/
  
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  May 9, 2019 10:03pm
rightoverlabour

can someone ask Nash why the police are aiding Gangsters, while preventing law abiding citizens from going about their lives?
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May 9, 2019 9:38pm
Monique Watson

And James Cameron can fuck right off.

He grows a few nuts and thinks he can save the world. Dickhead with a miss World mentality.
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