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krazykiwi

It’s normal to give gifts that one hopes the recipient will like.

Jacinda goes into virtual signalling overdrive, and ‘hopes that NZers like the choice’.
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May 7, 2019 8:05am
- srylands
  
  You might want to elaborate.
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:11am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Our gift to the royal baby is .. a donation to a NZ kids charity, and 10 trees. Jacinda hopes NZers like the gift.
    
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    May 7, 2019 8:24am
    - regb
      
      10 trees, manuka i hope so Meghan can make honey in the future.
      money?
      Why not New Zealand physical gifts, like weaving by Veranoa Hetet.
      
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      May 7, 2019 9:42am
      - Komata
        
        regb@0924
        
        Probably because either (a) PriNZess has never heard of her or (b) because she can’t deliver it in person, and will be upstaged by the new arrival. there’s no virtue signalling ‘Look at me’ to be gained by doing so.
        
        I suspect the latter; ‘tokenism’ and vote catching at it’s finest.
        
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        May 7, 2019 12:01pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      gift
      /ɡɪft/
      noun
      noun: gift; plural noun: gifts
      
      1.
      a thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present.
      
      2.
      a natural ability or talent.
      1. A gift not actually receive by the recipient, is still a gift?
      2. She (JA) has no natural talents, to speak of.
      or Has JA redefined the word gift?
      Similar to “re calibration”, me thinks.
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:35am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Move over Judy Bailey; Jacinda is now the Mother of the Nation, and what she decides goes, without questioning.
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:15am
  - MrsAnnie
    
    Give me a bucket.
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:06am
  - regb
    
    There’s more depth to Judy Bailey!
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:44am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      There’s more depth in a saucer of milk
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:04am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    You’d have preferred to set up a committee, or maybe hold a full referendum?
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:02am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Well, there is that. I guess it would be nice if he got his baby gift before he started school 😀
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:09am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Dunno about Mother, but she’s certainly the Chief Hagtivist…
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:46pm
Poppa

A teddy wearing a crusaders jersey & hijab?
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May 7, 2019 8:16am
KiwiRupes

I see Victoria University has abandoned their name change, however, reading between the lines, one suspects it’s a bit of a sham and that the word Victoria will relegated to a bare mention.

“The rebrand will include an increased emphasis on “Wellington” for groups and programmes within the University—for example Victoria Business School and Victoria International. ”

and

“When we think of what’s in the best interest of the university today, we think that the best decision is to conclude the debate, look at how we can refresh our branding and marketing approach and move forward in that direction.”
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May 7, 2019 8:17am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I need some help with the new Maori name for VUW
  – Te Herenga Waka
  
  as Herenga is not in my Williams Dictionary, I used some online translators….
  
  I came up with:
  Car Insurance
  Transportation
  A tethering site for a canoe.
  
  Anyone got a better translation?
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:26am
  - G152
    
    They pulled the same BS with the word pakeha.
    Evidently their ‘expert’ doesn’t understand that the Maori language had regional differences…
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:01am
    - Positan
      
      Although Seven Sharp didn’t approach it, the MOST LIKELY, obvious explanation of the origin of “pakeha” would be what Maori listeners discerned from hearing of a couple of words in constant use by English seamen, sealers, whalers and immigrant workers …”Bugger ya!”
      
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      May 7, 2019 9:24am
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        I thought the whole point of modern progressive identity politics is that the people who hear a word get to decide whether it is racist or not.
        
        As a minority European child in early primary school, I was told it meant “white as a fish’s belly”. That is my learned life experience and who are you to judge Seven Sharp? After all, you are not vertically- and adiposely- and follicularly-challenged like me. In my opinion, it is racist. So. To the stocks and dungeons with you, you racist Television-Privileged presenters! Your mothers were bin-raccoons and your fathers distilled elderberries…
        
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        May 7, 2019 12:50pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Go with: “A tethering site for a canoe”. It fits the torturing required to adapt Maori for a post 1835 world.
    Tethering site = physical place, established, holds onto..
    Canoe, waka, va’a = transporter, container
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:08am
  - toby1845
    
    I get your point, but suggest you try another online translator. The Maori word for ‘a place to tether/moor canoes’ is ‘Heretaunga’.
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      As is herenga waka
      https://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=herenga+waka
      
      here = to tie up
      
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      May 7, 2019 1:48pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      There are tribal and local variants.
      
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      May 7, 2019 1:57pm
      - toby1845
        
        You mean like, “Choice, bro!”; and ”Churrr, cuz!”
        
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        May 7, 2019 5:02pm
- srylands
  
  They are like a bunch of two year olds who got told “NO”.
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:28am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Not to worry, current admin will be replaced in a few years by new admin who will reinstitute the Victoria brand to mark their territory and be seen to be doing something.
    
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    May 7, 2019 8:42am
    - Jack5
      
      The recalcitrant Victoria University council should lose the right to self-appoint controlling interest in itself.
      
      Four of the 12 members are appointed by the relevant Government Minister, but eight are appointed by the council.
      
      The rules for these eight include that one must be the vice-chancellor, and of the other seven at least: two must be academic staff; two must be students; two must be Maori; two must be graduates of Victoria; and five must be women.
      
      Time for the Government to take back control. Taxpayers fund the university, the Government should control it on their behalf.
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:11am
      - Tall Man
        
        “Government should control it on their behalf.”
        
        And you seriously think that would be an improvement?
        
        You need to get out more.
        
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        May 7, 2019 11:59am
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        One small quibble here, I don’t believe there is any such beast as a relevant Government Minister at this time…
        
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        May 7, 2019 12:51pm
Yvette

Ardern – said the [cannabis] referendum was about putting a question to the New Zealand public, not about formulating a Government position. – Herald

If this exercise provides a result requiring legislation, whose legislation will it be?
If there is no Government position, surely that means any statements on the issue will be Election policy and should authorised and paid for as such, like any other Election policy?
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May 7, 2019 8:20am
- Inandout
  
  Yvette, perhaps after pot is made legal the gangs can surrender all theirs to their local police station, because it may be untaxed contraband. As for recreational use, well surely smoking any weed is bad for you; Tariana where are you?
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:27am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    But would it get stolen?
    
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    May 8, 2019 7:58am
- adamsmith1922
  
  Unless the legislation is already drafted and approved before the referendum, we will not know what we are voting for. This compounded by Little’s twsiting and turning over ‘binding’ see
  https://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2019/05/07/will-nz-cannabis-referendum-be-binding-or-andrew-little-has-been-taking-pinhead-dancing-lessons/
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:05am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Cannabis-Brexit.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:27am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Won’t that suit the narrative? We didn’t know what we were getting with the last election either, isn’t it business as usual? it is just to get people out to vote, those that don’t want it probably already vote but others will have to take a position too.
    
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    May 8, 2019 9:43am
Maggie Pie

How about – Chicken McBrexit 🙂

https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/1125056715324633096
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May 7, 2019 8:22am
- Gravelroad
  
  Donald.
  Good hardy Scottish name.
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:41am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Ps for all you TDS doubters out there:
    
    In Scottish the meaning of the name Donald is: Great chief, world mighty. From the Gaelic Domhnall. The name Donald has been borne by a number of early Scottish kings.
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:01am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Ah, but why should such an illustrious name be appropriated by the House of Sussex?
      
      (not biased of course… being a Macdonald)
      
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      May 7, 2019 9:12am
      - Gravelroad
        
        Doesn’t Meaghan want a name with an American connection?
        Some celebrities there are called Donald – Trump, Sutherland, Duck.
        And using Donald “Great Chief” should appease the uppity Scots from launching another Scotsxit from the UK.
        Done.
        
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        May 7, 2019 9:48am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Chicken McBrexit indeed–
  Are We Witnessing the End of the United Kingdom as an Independent Nation State? —
  
  https://www.globalresearch.ca/uk-hard-wired-fourth-reich/5676684
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:11am
  - Komata
    
    KevOB@0911
    
    Witnessing the end?
    
    Get with it old chap, we’ve WITNESSED end of the UK as an ‘indepenedent nation’ thanks to messers Heath, Blair, may et al. maggie t tried to hold the line but she was ultimately unable to do so.
    
    The sun has indeed set on the one time ‘Greatest Empire the world has ever known’ (it only took about 20 years) and corbyn et al are merely acting as carrion feeding scavengers, picking over the bones and cackling with glee as they do so. May is but a ‘slightly’ more refined version of the same.
    
    Sic transit Britannica.
    
    (1209)
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:09pm
- greybeard
  
  “Chuck” covers both bases
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:58am
Ford Prefect

It looks like the new series of Veep continues to parody our own hapless leader.
A couple of excerpts from the first episode

Selina Meyer picking up grandson before meeting the press:
Daughter “Mum you cant keep using our baby as a campaign prop”
Selina “Watch me Lion King the hell out of this”

Later with campaign team
Campaign Manager ” theyre tracking a school shooting”
Selina “Oh Muslim or white guy”
CM “They dont know yet”
Selina “Which is better for me”
CM “White guy”
Selina ” Well, fingers crossed”

The rest of the episode has her trying to avoid saying thoughts and prayers everywhere.
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May 7, 2019 8:28am
Happychappy

So we have people in NZ prepared to say fuck the majority we the minority want it changed. This is getting ridiculous and if I was a Crusaders supporter I be right pissed off.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018693141/rebranding-the-crusaders-the-argument-for-it-post-christchurch-terror-attacks
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May 7, 2019 8:30am
- RW Capitalist
  
  surely there is little old lady they should be protecting, somewhere?
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:10am
- The Heat
  
  “the name represented bravery and valour, as opposed to a violent war against Muslims. ”
  
  What don’t these woke dimwits understand about this very clear point?
  
  Most people in NZ, other than the woke, don’t make any association with various conflicts in Europe in the medieval period.
  
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  May 7, 2019 10:06am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Has anyone who is bothered by a sports team being called The Crusaders asked the Muslim leadership people in NZ what they think about it?
    Does it cause them offence and anxiety?
    If not, what is the problem?
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:45am
    - MickMac
      
      So what! I wouldn’t ask if it is a problem.
      
      Not a peep out of them with the endless Islamic terrorism all over the world.
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:28am
    - Tall Man
      
      Don’t know, don’t care.
      
      I’m not keen on beheading and crucifixion for an 18 year old who posted anti government sentiments online and I guess they don’t care about my opinion either……
      
      https://www.itv.com/news/2019-04-24/saudi-arabia-confirms-execution-of-37-prisoners-on-terror-offences/
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:56am
      - andydownhere
        
        Dont give Angry Little any ideas!
        
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        May 7, 2019 10:39pm
    - softail 1450
      
      Gravelroad ,if Islam had won, “crusaders ” wouldn’t bother them at all…….
      
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      May 7, 2019 12:20pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      I could care less if they have a problem. They clearly care less about global Muslim terrorism because they never have an opinion about it.
      
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      May 7, 2019 12:52pm
- graham
  
  Newsroom sports journalist Steve Deane … favours a rebrand …
  
  “You just can’t have a name that is going to deeply trouble a section of your citizenry, and that’s the reality of the Crusaders,” he said.
  
  Deane said the majority opinion was not what mattered.
  
  “The fact 90 percent of people support the name – you’re always going to get that when you’re looking at an issue where the minority is affected.”
  
  “It’s the minority you need to think of here.”
  
  Newsflash, Steve: there have always been cases where “a section of your citizenry” has been deeply troubled by something, and nothing changed. Think The Virgin in a Condom at Te Papa. Think “Wrecked” (a photographic Last Supper scene with a bare-breasted woman playing Jesus). Think virtually any advertising campaign by Hell’s Pizzas.
  
  If we start “thinking of the minority”, and worrying when “a section of your citizenry” is deeply troubled, then you’d better be prepared to say goodbye to a hell of lot of stuff that you probably take for granted and see as your right in a free society.
  
  For starters, let’s ban alcohol being sold in supermarkets – hell, alcohol being sold ANYWHERE. Because there’s a sizeable “section of your citizenry” that gets “deeply troubled” about the harm caused by alcohol. So we’ll all become teetotal, shall we? Of course, all the bar owners, liquor shops, and brewers who are now out of a job might get a wee bit agitated, but as long as we think about the “section of your citizenry” that gets “deeply troubled” we’re all good, right? Too bad about the veterans who like to pop down to the RSA for a pint, but I’m sure they’ll see things your way Steve.
  
  Next, say goodbye to your Sunday roast, a good steak, pork chops, sausages (can’t upset the vegetarians). We’d better also get used to life without unhealthy takeaways, fatty foods, and soft drinks (people worried about our children’s health). Better shut down the Maccas, Burger King, Wendy’s, your local fish and chip shop, because they’re all unhealthy which is bound to “deeply trouble a section of your citizenry”.
  
  Oh, we’d better ditch the cannabis referendum too (I’m sure anti-drug people are “deeply troubled”) and quit the 1080 drops (you know how “deeply troubled” some people are about those). Get rid of fluoride while you’re at it, and vaccinations. There’s a minority of people who are “deeply troubled” by that fluoride, Steve.
  
  Gambling’s gone, of course – plenty of people who are “deeply troubled” by the harm done by gambling. So bye-bye to the pokies, betting on horse-races, the TAB, any sports-betting – it’s all gotta go Steve. Hope you weren’t planning to get rich from Lotto …
  
  Better start working out how you’re going to rid the Internet of porn (that “deeply troubles” a lot of people), by the way.
  
  On the plus side, let’s build more cycle lanes, because we have to think of the minority (even though most car-drivers can’t stand them, nor the business owners who lose parking spaces).
  
  That’s just for starters, Steve. There is a LOT more stuff that is going to have to change, be banned, rebranded, etc., if you’re really serious about doing away with anything that “deeply troubles a section of your citizenry”. And if “majority opinion was not what mattered” then stand by for all the obsessives to start flag-waving on their own personal vendettas, once they know that someone like you is going to pander to the minority.
  
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  May 7, 2019 10:34am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Comment of the Day 😀
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:13am
  - MickMac
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:28am
  - alloytoo
    
    I’m deeply troubled by Vegans.
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:03pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      I help Vegans out whenever I can by consuming the animals that would otherwise go on to eat their food… You’re welcome, Vegans.
      
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      May 7, 2019 12:53pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      The workers sitting around the lunch table here say they are deeply troubled by man-buns.
      (Just in case there is any confusion they are referring to a hair style.)
      
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      May 7, 2019 12:59pm
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        As long as the bun-wearer is not also carrying a katana’n’wakizashi, I could care less…
        
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        May 7, 2019 1:18pm
      - sooty
        
        I don’t trust any bald buffed head!
        All untrustworthy!
        
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        May 7, 2019 4:58pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Graham ,excellent…
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:21pm
  - The Heat
    
    Nice one, Graham. I wish I could give more than one uptick.
    
    I also really wish these “I’m offended!” types would go to their safe-spaces, shut the door, have a good cry and not come back out again until they grow up.
    
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    May 7, 2019 2:24pm
  - doggone7
    
    Steve Deane needn’t be vexed given his way of seeing things. There is a minority whose views are most important he says.
    
    Okay Steve, the minority has voted that rugby be banned. Problem solved, no game, no team to retain a name or be renamed.
    
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    May 7, 2019 3:06pm
    - sooty
      
      No job for you, Steve!
      
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      May 7, 2019 4:59pm
emmess

Jacinda’s NZ in 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tKEjSVhj-Q
Disgusting
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May 7, 2019 8:31am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve never seen a cop in a pink shirt and a flak jacket before….quite tasteful.
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Metrosexual”?
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:37am
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      Clearly that duo hit all the diversity-hire buttons at HQ. They presented well. Except for politeness, straightforwardness, being forthcoming and agreeable, and remembering they are servants of the public not its master and mistress. But except for those things, they presented well.
      
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      May 7, 2019 1:20pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    It does make one wonder what would happen if you answered the door wearing a flak jacket… Based on their approach and demeanour, I would say some very bad things would result. AOS ( i.e. our version of swatting) at a minimum. Because if wearing a flak jacket and a gun on your hip when approaching a suburban house on the basis of a Facebook posting is modern policing in the Ardern era, we are further down the highway to Socialist hell than I had previously thought.
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:25pm
- Jules99
  
  That’s why it’s not a good idea to use your real name on social media – you might get a visit from your local police.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:31am
- simpleton1
  
  Not exact transcript, but as close as I reasonably can for “ONE of those People” 🙂
  
  [What is going on]
  (Then a confirmation of his name.)
  
  umm… The reason we are here is .. umm .. is basically is down to the recent … umm.. events in Christchurch …. um . with the shooting and that..right ..
  
  [yip] based on that..um .. sort of a number of people have been identified as … we have been tasked to go and speak to. … so you are one of those people. … um…. [Well] is the reason we are here …
  
  [Well,What pacifically] that is what we are to talk about…but Not really comfortable to discussing this with you while I am being filmed. ….
  
  [NO I think you should be because you know you have come here on a Sunday morning. It is quarter to ten isnt it, Right, and you come here onto my property and now you want to discuss something. So I think we need to get a record of this. and make sure what ever that you are doing. or whatever you are doing round here.]
  (and continues on )
  
  A police observation then claims he is “upset”, and his reply is that he is not upset. and then sort of gets into semantics. …. and the police keep saying they do not want any discussion on camera.
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:33am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    That is certainly an extremely suspicious visit – on a Sunday morning no less, and especially when the armed perpetrators of the visit did not wish to be recorded. Clearly, they were inviting the person they visited to regard himself as being guilty, and was seeking to have and prove himself innocent in their eyes…
    
    Move over gangs, Cahill’s Mob is here and in your face, in your driveway, on a Sunday, armed and ready…
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:05pm
- softail 1450
  
  emmess,that is particularly worrying actually….
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:35pm
alloytoo

I have determined that the rise of veganism has coincided with global warming.

The solution is obvious.

Steak…….
(though my wife insists it be chicken breast)
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May 7, 2019 8:41am
- G152
  
  Sounds suspiciously like breast feeding ? 🙂
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:03am
  - alloytoo
    
    I don’t think vegans approve of that either
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:22am
    - Tall Man
      
      Oral sex?
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:53am
      - NoCash
        
        As long as you don’t swallow.
        
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        May 7, 2019 12:49pm
    - NoCash
      
      A genuine question, do vegans approve breastfeeding? If so, why not dairy products from vegan cows?
      
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      May 7, 2019 12:31pm
      - John Warren
        
        I don’t know about breastfeeding, but I’m sure they’d disapprove of the very yummy Hungarian salami I’m slicing up onto my bread and butter for lunch, and the gruyere cheese I’m garnishing it with.
        
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        May 7, 2019 1:06pm
Paulus

There appears to be very serious concern about so called media interference in the Australian Election.
More lies than ever are being told and invented and distributed by Social Media.
I suggest that we are are similarly being transported by outside influences.
This is happening in New Zealand as we are being copied from their outlets primarily major US papers and media outlets whom we copy fastidiously as fact.
It is world wide.
An excellent read for those seriously interested The Death of the Gods – (media) – The New Global Power Grab – (Internet).
Carl Miller UK Penguin publication 2018.
Frightening conclusions.
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May 7, 2019 8:42am
- Ross12
  
  And then you have this Paulus
  
  https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/05/06/report-facebook-sets-up-war-room-for-european-elections/
  
  You do not even have to read between the lines to understand what this is all about.
  
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  May 7, 2019 10:33am
artemisia

WTF is going on with Shelly Bay in Wellington. Every person and their dog is in some sort of fight over it. Iwi once-were-owners sold out most of it for a song, and a major loss. Peter Jackson, Council, iwi and developer all have a view, seems to be a right bugger’s muddle. Meanwhile, nothing happens there.
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May 7, 2019 8:42am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  It does appear as though someone has made out like a robbers dog! I would have thought the 10ths trust after the Love fiasco would have been a bit more transparent, but breaking the land into smaller parcels to not trigger iwi consultation requirements, and then onselling for a fraction of value looks, at face value, pretty dodge.
  
  On the other hand, PJ is no saint either. Shame there isn’t something, its on the tip of my tongue – oh yes, a grown up Council, and real media….
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:53am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    A fraction of its value? A fraction of what they paid for it maybe, but that is not at all the same thing. If PJ or indeed you think the land is worth that much more than Ian Cassells is paying for it, go ahead and make the iwi a better offer. I’m sure they’d be happy to accept and you’ll be quids-in.
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:08am
    - artemisia
      
      The iwi paid for it? With?
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:53am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Not sure that I understand your question, but there’s a piece on today’s Stuff about why the iwi are selling. Apparently they bought Shelly Bay with part of the money they got from a treaty settlement and subsequently came to realise that they’d saddled themselves with an expensive white elephant which they had neither the resources nor the expertise to convert into a worthwhile asset. Selling for the best price they can get seems to be the most sensible option at this point.
        
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        May 7, 2019 2:16pm
    - Tall Man
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/112341155/majority-of-iwi-land-at-shelly-bay-sold-for-fraction-of-purchase-price
      
      Who’s screwing who here?
      
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      May 7, 2019 1:08pm
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        I hope they all lose…
        
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        May 7, 2019 4:25pm
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      Some of the nicest waterfront land in Wellington, with great views and North facing. Yup total dog of a site, best break it into smaller parcels that don’t trigger consultation, and hock it off for a fraction of what we paid for it.
      
      Uh huh?
      
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      May 7, 2019 8:29pm
- marcw
  
  Just as an outsider: some are saying the Iwi sold too cheaply, but what is the land worth without development? Everyone agrees the area needs to be made into something of a showcase for the harbour, but it will take a chasm of money to do it justice. The Iwi had no money or resource to continue, so sold for I believe around $1million. They are now $1million better off, and someone who can raise the development funds may get to finish the job. Move on people.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:30am
Hugh Pavletich

Made without humans or cows: inside the race to bioengineer milk … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/05/06/made-without-humans-cows-inside-race-bioengineer-milk/

It is the first thing infants consume, usually just seconds after birth. Alone among mammals, we continue drinking it for the duration of our entire lives.

But scientists around the world believe they may be on the cusp of the biggest change in the way we produce milk in history. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… New Zealand has the most severe housing bubble in the Anglosphere … with housing on an unweighted basis across its larger metros, about 6.5 times annual household income (Median Multiple) …

2019 15th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

… access further information …

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
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May 7, 2019 8:48am
- All_on_Red
  
  Never knew you had a website Hugh
  Get much traffic?
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:53am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Even relatively slight increases in mortgage interest rates could present significant challenges for the housing market … Greg Ninness … Interest Co NZ
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/99538/even-relatively-slight-increases-mortgage-interest-rates-could-present-significant
    
    The prospect of rising interest rates is like a desert mirage.
    
    No sooner do they appear to be just over the hill than they disappear back over the horizon as interest rates continue to tumble to ever greater lows.
    
    Good news for home buyers, not so good for savers.
    
    However, one thing that could change that is the Reserve Bank’s proposal to require the big four Australian-owned banks to increase their capital. … read more via hyperlink above …
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    The American economy is swimming in jobs. Calling for a rate cut now is bonkers … CNN
    
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/03/economy/us-interest-rates-cut/index.html
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:33am
    - All_on_Red
      
      So that’s a ‘no’ then
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:18am
      - Tall Man
        
        He’s far too busy writing his “wolf wolf” stories to read shit from a mere mortal like you……
        
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        May 7, 2019 11:49am
  - Swifty
    
    ‘Perfomanceurbanplanning.org – Alexa rank not available – not enough traffic data.’
    
    Alexa rank: 10,044,842
    
    Oh dear…..
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:57am
- howitis
  
  Is that Dick Pavletich posting?
  It sounds like dick.
  Hey I tease you with this , tell you it’s behind a paywall, then post the link to the paywall.
  What a dick!
  
  Moderators please note.
  This link whore has got so bad he is linking to outside sites we can’t even read.
  I would suggest these posts be removed as adding no value to a blog as they are teasers we can’t even follow up on.
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:24am
  - Swifty
    
    Please get his name right howitis – he now self describes as Hugh Pathetic:
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/03/general_debate_21_march_2019.html/comment-page-1#comment-2459322
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:29pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    As Kiwi Tories, you should all be subscribed to the UK Torygraph / Telegraph … which the (extremely important and inevitable) artificial milk article was drawn from.
    
    Do you remember 50+ years ago when the ignorant souls from the Wool Board convinced themselves artificial fibers WOULD NEVER compete with wool ?
    
    How wrong they proved to be !
    
    Widespread discussion of the important issue of artificial milk needs to be encouraged.
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:43pm
    - Cobolt24
      
      Exactly.
      
      America’s surging rents price key workers out of rental market | Australian Financial Review:
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      https://www.afr.com/real-estate/residential/america-s-surging-rents-price-key-workers-out-of-rental-market-20190502-p51jkt
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      AUSTRALIA: Construction jobs suffer as activity drops anew
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      https://www.afr.com/real-estate/residential/employment-suffering-as-construction-activity-drops-anew-20190507-p51kr0
      
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      May 7, 2019 3:53pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Cobalt24 … excellent !
        
        Lets hope we see Aussie volume production builders come to New Zealand looking for work.
        
        Their pricing and performance is way way better than the disorganized and excessively costly cottage construction industry in this country.
        
        We used to have a production industry, until the bureaucrats bludgeoned it in to extinction by destroying volume building.
        
        It will be a big job restoring a volume production industry.
        
        What Housing & Urban Development Minister said late March to The New Zealand Initiative gives us hope …
        
        … The political direction is clear …
        
        New Zealand Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive
        
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat
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        Why are New Zealand homes so pricey? It has nothing to do with avocados … Charlie Gates … Stuff NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/106789344/why-are-nz-homes-so-pricey-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-avocados
        
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        May 7, 2019 4:58pm
cas

I was watching a rerun of Monty Python last night and the first sketch was called Face the Press. The interviewer said to the Minister for Home Affairs “In your plan a better Britain for us, you claim that you would build 88 thousand million billion houses a year in the greater London area alone. In fact you’ve only built three in the last 15 years. Are you a bit disappointed with this result?”

The Minister, who was dressed in a dress, started to reply and that was basically the end of the sketch.

Do Phil and Jacinda get their inspiration from Monty Python? I think we must be told.
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May 7, 2019 8:48am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Here you go Cas; it’s too good not to share with the populus – it starts at around the 45 second mark…
  
  https://vimeo.com/5704713
  
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  May 7, 2019 8:53am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Phyllis Twitford?
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:16am
  - Lizziep
    
    I had forgotten how like the COL the old Monty Python skits really are. How the left do not see the similarity is beyond me.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:28am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Monty Python
      · Graham Chapman · John Cleese · Terry Gilliam · Eric Idle · Terry Jones · Michael Palin ·
      Nostradamus of the 70’s and 80’s
      How did they predict so well, this govt.?
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:38am
- tf78
  
  cas Monty Python is hilarious – Grant and Jacinda are not.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:18am
the deity formerly known as nigel6888

Why wouldnt they say why they were there? And why are they afraid to say anything on camera?

That is not good. Whoever the guy is, good on him for not losing his cool, and keeping the camera running.
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May 7, 2019 8:50am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  I suspect they – the Blue Gangsters – had a script which they did not want anyone else to know about…
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:06pm
RRM

Well done Meghan & Harry!

1) The birth of any child is huge

2) For having a homebirth without causing the sky to fall

3) for just everything you’ve done to make the monarchy far more respected now than it was in Charles’ day.
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May 7, 2019 8:53am
- stephieboy
  
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  And without EAD TWO we don’t have bods questioning the babe’s racial lineage.
  
  Or..?
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:26am
  - Tall Man
    
    You are nothing but a useless troll.
    
    Your parents must be so proud.
    
    I think it’s time they took your computer privileges away.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:42am
- alwyn
  
  You are obviously unaware of the fact that the current Queen had 4 children who were all homebirths.
  That of course included Charles.
  It also seems a little ridiculous to blame Charles for any failings you perceive in the Monarchy when he isn’t the Monarch.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:55am
  - RRM
    
    Alwyn
    
    Have you seen the coverage? “Oh. My. God. She had a home birth, that’s crazy, that’s basically child abuse.” I guess a lot of that coverage is for American audiences and they have the most hospitalized birth industry anywhere, not that it is doing anyone any good as the outcomes are not even up to third world standards..
    
    Charles talks to his cabbages, he told Camilla he wanted to be her tampon, and basically every time he opened his mouth in public he reinforced a view of him as being a complete goose, a joke, a twit, and a twat, hopelessly out of touch and impossible to take seriously.
    
    Fortunately his boys have turned out solid and liked by pretty much everybody.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:29am
- rangitoto
  
  According to the DM it wasn’t a home birth. She was whisked off to hospital.
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:33am
- gravedodger
  
  Except my information has a quick trip to a nearby London clinic for the delivery, not confirmed as yet.
  
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  May 7, 2019 4:35pm
Nukuleka

We are told that Brenton Tarrant is a ‘white supremacist’. As I have not been able to read his manifesto I have no way of knowing that this description is entirely accurate or whether it has been attached to him as a lazy means of explaining his appalling actions.

Can someone who has read the suppressed manifesto tell me if he does indeed state that white people are superior to non-whites? Or is his belief system a little more nuanced (or crazed) than this?

Or am I forbidden to ask such a question?
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May 7, 2019 8:53am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  without reading the manifesto, hard to tell. I believe he might have been a feral green, seemed very keen on the environment….
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:06am
- tf78
  
  I haven’t read it but I thought he called himself and
  “eco terrorist/extremest” or words to the affect – alas we will never no.
  
  On a similar vein the Aussie Green Leader Di Natali (? spelling) wants Andrew Bolt, Paul Murray and Kenney dumped because of their ‘hate speech’. Such a horrible man.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:16am
- stephieboy
  
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  I was taking my dog for his morning walk and saw a group of MAGS students on their way to school. Like me all probably White Anglo Saxon Celtic heritage. I idly thought for a moment of White Displacement Theory and its enormous and tragic effects with or without Benton Tarrants Manifesto.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:23am
  - kevn
    
    @sboi… You are just making things up now.
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:52am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Ethnic composition of Mount Albert Grammar School 2018
    
    Māori: 13%
    Pākehā: 40%
    Asian : 23%
    Pasifika: 19%
    MELAA: 3%
    other: 2%
    
    https://www.ero.govt.nz/review-reports/mt-albert-grammar-school-18-04-2018/
    
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    May 7, 2019 9:57am
    - Debsta
      
      So, pretty similar to Auckland pop demographics…but don’t let facts get in the way of your story will ya Stephieboy! Same ol same ol from a lefty non-thinker.
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:28am
  - Sacha
    
    You COULD think that, but idle thoughts are just idle thoughts . . . . . .
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:10am
    - sooty
      
      But what about idle hands!
      
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      May 7, 2019 5:06pm
  - Jack5
    
    It’s amusing when one of the users of the “Stephieboy” pseudonym talks as though “Stephie” were one person, as in the 9.23 Stephie post above, saying:
    
    “Like me all probably White Anglo Saxon Celtic heritage.”
    
    Some of the “Stephie” posters struggle with English grammar, and write in a style inflected with the idiom of Asia’s great sub-continent.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:23am
    - Tall Man
      
      Simplified for you.. “idiot” that’s all steffy girl’s are.
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:45am
  - RRM
    
    At least you weren’t thinking about “small but ample breasts” stephie. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a few small steps. Well done you!
    
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    May 7, 2019 6:39pm
- alloytoo
  
  Without reading his manifesto, I must conclude he’s a loony loser lefty, blaming everyone else for his problems (real or imagined)
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:26am
  - Tall Man
    
    Being in Oz it is easily available.
    
    Glanced through it, he’s a nut job with conflicting views.
    
    No more white supremacist than brian tamaki is.
    
    This is a useful analysis of the rubbish and ill thought out argument.
    
    https://www.europeanfreedom.com/2019/03/16/the-great-replacement-the-manifesto-of-brenton-tarrant-the-new-zealand-mosque-shooter/
    
    It does not contain the manifesto but does provide a link which I think is not a breach of anything in NZ.
    
    This quote from the article is a good description of the nut job.
    
    “Secondly, from a tactical point of view, if you think a small group of brave white nationalists is going to save the West from mass immigration and moral decline, you seriously need your head examining.”
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:51am
    - Straight arrow
      
      Link DOES contain the manifesto.
      I exited as soon as I saw the text down the page (I read manifesto before ban, and have no copy)
      It might not be full copy, but certainly enough to be illegal.
      
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      May 7, 2019 11:40pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  If I recall ~~rightly~~ correctly Tarrant doesn’t see himself as a white anything. He is happy for nations to live in their home territories and he is happy to live among them. He expresses concern about immigration possible causing strife.
  
  Tarrant does see himself as being unique or one of a special class of world leaders bringing radical action. He classes himself with Mandela and expects a Nobel Prize in time. I don’t understand the meaning of eco-fascist with which he describes himself but I think he promotes stopping at nothing for his multiple causes.
  
  My best classification for Tarrant is a megalomaniac–dangerous because he seeks to inspire other irrationals to follow. Navigating his never ending words brings pleasure when they cease. I’m sure the mental health provisions could be applied.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:29am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Tarrant appears to be movement (bowel) unto himself.
    A terrorist movement with ONE member ….him.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:28am
  - ISeeRed
    
    We’ll have to rely on your recollection since it’s now illegal to possess or even read his “manifesto”. What does that say about who we really need to fear? One lone wolf mass-murdering psychopath or an increasingly overreaching authoritarian government full of “progressive” ideologues and economic illiterates who control every aspect of our daily lives?
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:46am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    To be fair, Mandela (and his gentle muse Winnie) had a much higher body count between them, than VoldeTarrant.
    
    Some ‘highlights’ of St Mandela:
    
    …at his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including
    – the Johannesburg railway station
    – Church Street West, Pretoria
    – Amanzimtoti Shopping complex
    – Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court
    – Durban Pick ‘n Pay shopping complex
    – Pretoria Sterland movie complex
    – Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court
    – Roodepoort Standard Bank
    All told, Mandela’s MK terrorists killed hundreds. Mandela himself planned 17 attacks. Not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”
    
    So, yeah, BrentonMort’s role model was accurately included.
    
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    May 7, 2019 4:32pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  From the first reports I read about his manifesto (2nd hand sources), he had a muddle of philosophies/beliefs.
  
  He thought that groups of people should remain in their own/original regions (ethnostates)… so was against immigration into countries.
  
  He felt that the high fertility rate of non-white groups of immigrants would lead to the extinction of the white European population in countries.
  
  I ‘ve just used Google to check one of those 2ndry sources….and have come across a copy of Tarrant’s manifesto ….within the first few hits on a very obvious Google search.
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:50am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Ohh Thats 14 years in the clink, You Right Wing Supremacist! How dare you google that document, that once read, leads one to go and commit acts of terrorism. At least that’s what our Dear Leader and the Chief Censor believes.
    
    The only reason they don’t want average New Zealanders reading the manifesto is that it proves that Tarrant (see I typed his name!) is not a Right Wing Supremacist but a complete and utter, but very dangerous, nutter. Who actually has more in common with Left Wing Dictatorships and Fascist Greenies.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:09am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yeah, well…
      my address is in the phone book…
      and the prospect of having the next 14 years without cooking/cleaning for my old man sounds like
      the perfect holiday.
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:50am
      - Tall Man
        
        Be careful what you wish for but….. having a video camera handy seems like a good plan.
        
        Is it illegal to record someone in your home without advising them if you are part of the recording?
        
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        May 7, 2019 11:43am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    careful Maggy, you are not of the priestly class anointed to interpret such things so your brain is not sufficiently equipped, and I have noticed that you frequently stray into wrongthink.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:09am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It’s not hard to see if a native population has a lower reproductive ratio than a guest population over an extended period of time the guest population will grow faster than the other. Populations cannot be compelled to integrate so friction at the boundaries is inevitable.
    
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    May 7, 2019 3:10pm
- RRM
  
  I skimmed it before it was illegal.
  
  Couldn’t find anything about “white people are better than brown people.”
  
  My main take-away from it was that “white countries should remain white countries, immigration is a problem, and killing immigrants is the solution.”
  
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  May 7, 2019 10:35am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I had a quick read of said manifesto when this first happened. Can’t say I committed much to memory but my overall impression was of an unhinged individual, bitter and angry about just about everything and looking for someone to blame for slights real and perceived.
  The sort of person who spends far too much time thinking deeply about an alternative set of facts because he likes to express his opinions forcefully because he’s the only one who’s right about anything.
  What a pity Ardern’s government relaxed the firearm licencing rules to allow this person of dubious character to obtain the tools to express his misguided opinion so tragically.
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:21pm
- toby1845
  
  Nukuleka
  
  I can categorically state that he didn’t say that (albeit replying for a friend).
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:22pm
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  I read it when I was in the UK.
  
  The form of government organisation he admires above all else is the Chinese commonest government.
  
  The form of non-governmental organisation he admires above all else is the eco-freaks.
  
  ***
  
  So since we have a ex-international Socialist = Communist Party leader* in a coalition with the Greens, Voldetarrant felt right at home messing up New Zealand…
  
  (in 2008, Ardern was elected President of the International Union of Socialist Youth).
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:09pm
- Jules99
  
  I watched a video of someone who analysed it before the censor got involved. From what I recall he doesn’t like Trump, his favourite country is China and he called himself an ‘eco fascist’. No reference to liking white people at all. His aims are for a progressive government to shut down free speech, take away people’s guns, and then the right will rise up in revolution with blood on the streets.
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:10pm
KevO'Brien

Update on Venezuela via the USA State Dept:

https://thegrayzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/US-Department-of-State-Venezuela-actions.pdf
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May 7, 2019 8:56am
tf78

We went to listen to Paula Bennett yesterday. I was thoroughly impressed (which isn’t easy). She is intelligent, articulate, hardworking, really does her homework and a great sense of humour to boot. She spoke for half an hour and took questions for over an hour. I have now been to see Simon Bridges, Paul Goldsmith they seem like they really have a solid united team.

Re : hate speech, she jokingly said her dad would be locked up for the jokes he tells.

Paul Goldsmith thought the COL would seriously look at death duties and gift duties.

They were just a couple of many discussion points.
If you get the opportunity go and have a listen for yourself.
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May 7, 2019 8:58am
- Wired-one
  
  Amy Adam’s and Todd Muller are extremely impressive also, Todd in particular I feel is very impressive.
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:36pm
MrsAnnie

I would love to see Goldsmith in Finance- spoke with a backbench MP yesterday, they were very open about the leadership of the Party. Said all the Judith rumours were utter nonsense. They didn’t say what happened last week but said that after last week any leadership challenges have been well and truly put to rest. It comes down to numbers, Bridges has them in spades, Judith never had them.
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May 7, 2019 9:12am
- Poppa
  
  We can forget a Nat victory in 2020 with Simon in charge, he just isn’t attractive to voters. I wish I could be confident but I can’t.
  
  I am yet to speak with anyone who thinks he is electable
  
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  May 7, 2019 9:52am
  - MrsAnnie
    
    Its not a Presidential election, preferred Prime Minister polling is a very recent focus. The focus on Jacinda is all about distracting the public from looking at the failings of her team. Nats have hit 46% in the last 6 months- never say never. P.S didnt MSM and polling companies tell us Trump will never be President lol
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:12am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Labour have a Ardern leading a team of nincompoops and are riding high in the polls.
      What make you think it isn’t a presidential election?
      
      National has a solid team.
      With a charismatic leader they would be unstoppable.
      
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      May 7, 2019 12:25pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I have a little more faith in the voters than you.
        
        Remember 2017 was a clear mandate for National’s policies with an overwatch by “what’s in it for wynston”. That is what many in NZ thought they were getting.
        
        37% voted for “more welfare”
        
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        May 7, 2019 12:58pm
  - Sacha
    
    Yes? The few people I discuss politics with seem to think that he has Team Leadership qualities. They think that the PM sets the tone for the government and that there are a few ‘good people’ who will prove themselves when they get the chance. And that Simon Bridges will give them that chance.
    We should be electing the GOVERNMENT, not the Party Leader.
    
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    May 7, 2019 10:19am
    - Sacha
      
      But having said that, I do wish that National would take even one small step to the right –
      
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      May 7, 2019 10:20am
      - tf78
        
        Sasha- when you listen to them ‘live’ they are actually very ‘right’. Their main bug bear seems to be with what the Labour govt does with welfare every time they’re in and that is a very deep and difficult hole to get out of as you can’t just stop giving people money because of the ‘children’.
        
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        May 7, 2019 12:27pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Rocky horror picture show?
        
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        May 7, 2019 7:56pm
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      His problem is his team of staff advisors. Throwing a good person under the bus was very poor form, but well consistent with the vicious little thugs who surround SB.
      
      The behaviour you tolerate represents your leadership.
      
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      May 7, 2019 8:42pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I think he’s electable…. the people of Tauranga think he’s electable…..
    
    I think you need to get out more.
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:41am
- alloytoo
  
  It’s my erstwhile impression that the coup was firmly in the mind of Tova O’Brian as an imagined payback for her boy JLR.
  
  Gleefully aided by Barry Soper et al.
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:09pm
- Wired-one
  
  But Tova tells us different…
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:37pm
Lipo

Regarding the news that Victim Support have been a bit tardy in distributing funds over the Christchurch Massacre –
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/11-04-2019/but-are-they-doing-enough-victim-support-and-your-charity-dollars/
Question – Who are victims?
I think it would be whoever was killed or injured in the attack. However I notice in other court processes it seems the victim can be just about anyone associated with the “actual” victim. The definition seems very wide
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May 7, 2019 9:14am
- tf78
  
  Lipo – the reality is all New Zealander’s are victims – how will they deal with that.
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:34pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Works out about $2.00 each then.
    
    Can I have mine in cash please?
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:10pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      I’ll take mine in Smarties. Mmmm, Smarties.
      
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      May 7, 2019 4:36pm
RW Capitalist

https://www2.deloitte.com/nz/en/pages/tax-alerts/articles/gst-on-low-value-goods.html
What a nightmare
I import small amounts, sometimes for reason of time constraints sometimes as overflow to larger orders. Compliance will be expensive and a nightmare.
Another thought
Perish the thought, try to buy “cowboy” boots here.
Without the internet, you can’t.
All products not for sale in NZ, will go up by 15% or as is the case at the moment many companies will NOT ship to NZ.
Limiting supply, variety and upping the price (inflation).
Has this CoL ever done a pro’s & cons list on any legislation they intend to bring in?
or is this the a very good example of a Rhetorical question?
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May 7, 2019 9:36am
- alloytoo
  
  I’m not sure how they plan to enforce this on non-resident companies?
  
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  May 7, 2019 10:48am
  - MickMac
    
    hopefully. they’ll tell them to get fcked
    
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    May 7, 2019 11:35am
- howitis
  
  https://www.truewesternwear.nz/shopping.html
  
  Based in Carterton and they ship items
  
  Boots, hats etc
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:36am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Thanks
    Have past them many times, thought they only made saddles and bridles.
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:44pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Because AliExpress are all about being an unpaid tax collector for the New Zealand Government
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:30pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  I take care that my orders don’r exceed the $400 limit as Customs then imposes other charges and an Import Entry is required.
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:16pm
BrownSnake

Who likes Comedy

Who needs a laugh

There is an Australian Election happening

This is the Best Comedy the World can bring you

Geting bored with Jacinda

Need a Break some light relief

Kev and Julia

making a grand entrance
to a Labour Party conference

I laughed and laughed and laughed

https://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/ground-game-heats-up-as-electorate-splinters-20190501-p51j6v

Rudd and Gillard unite against common enemy

Want to see the Tragic Future of NZ

Monitor Australian States under Labour Control

https://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/election-2019-labor-campaign-launch-live-bill-shorten-rallies-party-faithful-20190505-p51k6s.html

We will soon know which puppet monkey or muppet controls the Banana Republic

For 3 months
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May 7, 2019 9:36am
- Tall Man
  
  ……………………………………………
  
  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  
  Any idea what they are?
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:30am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Yes
    
    Unneeded
    
    Apparently
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:12pm
Maggie Pie

“The second-best thing i’ve ever tasted”. High praise indeed from my partnwer as he licked the last of the sauce from his fingers. Even if i say so myself, the ‘Duck a la Orange’
i did for dinner last nite was superb! Followed it with a silky smooth ‘Sago Gula Melaka’ – a dessert we both adore. Only downside was when i got up this morning having to face doing the dirty dishes 🙁
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May 7, 2019 9:37am
- Tall Man
  
  Simple rule in our home, cook or wash……. seldom both.
  
  And by wash I mean stack the dishwasher. Now, as my wife tells me I’m not very good at stacking the dishwasher, I do the bulk of the cooking…….
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:15am
  - Tall Man
    
    Seriously…. adore….
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQRFyMdFA8E
    
    Now this is a pud…..
    
    https://www.goodfood.com.au/recipes/mandarin-creme-brulee-20111018-29w95
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:54pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Sago Gula Melaka?
  My Greek friend says that is a dish for wankers.
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:17am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Funnily enuff, it was my partner that first introduced me to it 🙂
    
    (although he reckoned it was Asian?)
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:48pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Melaka; pretty much the only Greek word I remember although, it is nothing without the facial expressions, the hand gesture and the delivery.
    
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    May 7, 2019 1:15pm
- artemisia
  
  Gula melaka – made from 3 different palm trees. Sago palm, coconut palm and various palms for palm sugar.
  
  Pretty cool!
  
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  May 7, 2019 5:55pm
RW Capitalist

Saw a gag recently
a: “I support free speech, just not hate speech”
b: “T support Physics, just not Gravity”
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May 7, 2019 9:42am
Maggie Pie

When this just popped up on Instagtram – my partner said, “You cant tell me when you read the last paragraph that Phil the Greek wont be in cringe mode” 🙂

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxH7U2HHx3H/
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May 7, 2019 10:59am
Lee C

Saw Green facebook presentation “We finally got you guys the referendum you wanted”
or
“We finally got the taxpayer to finance our election campaign.”
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May 7, 2019 11:22am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Indeed Lee; taxpayer funding by stealth.
  
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  May 7, 2019 11:31am
  - Tall Man
    
    Not really good at stealth are they?
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11901089
    
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/mrcagney
    
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    May 7, 2019 12:04pm
Fletch

Hijab-wearing Sesame Street characters celebrate Ramadan.

https://www.facebook.com/SesameStreet/photos/a.314049424548/10157238122854549/
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May 7, 2019 11:22am
- Jules99
  
  Well, to be fair, they also celebrated Star Wars Day!
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:05pm
- Tall Man
  
  Not enough teeth………………
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:17pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    …and where are the vests?
    
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    May 7, 2019 2:26pm
Tony Stuart

Congratulations to Judd Trump on his win in the World Snooker Championship. I’m sure the mere mention of his name will get some people bent out of shape!
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May 7, 2019 11:24am
- Ford Prefect
  
  aaaahh. Ive been recording the snooker and watching it at my leisure. Only half way through the semi finals.
  
  At least the right player one.
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:34pm
Tall Man

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/victim-support-right-to-hold-off-on-christchurch-payouts-lawyer/

Under common law, Insurance is a no no for muslims and the banking industry is also a no no as they charge interest, ref: sonny bill williams.

But, money given by individuals and corporates is ok? Or are the delays happening because they are asking for “provenance” on all donations…….. I doubt it.

The complaints that the “payouts” are too slow are coming from the muslim community.

What’s the old saying “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”….
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May 7, 2019 11:28am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  Well I clearly remember all the Muslim communities rallying around to raise funds for Christians injured and slaughtered by terrorism emanating from their communities, all the way from France to Nigeria…
  
  …oh wait, that didn’t happen.
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:12pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Engelbert Humperdink, the important issue is what are you doing for those Christians even in small ways.?
    
    Or as here?
    
    https://barnabasfund.org
    
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    May 7, 2019 2:21pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      Steffy, I don’t virtue signal in public. I’m not suffering from terminal Ardernitis.
      
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      May 7, 2019 2:40pm
MCos

I often wonder why people of no consequence are given time in the media. For example the woman who, due to her own unique interpretation of the word, objected to being called a pakeha.
If she formed some sort of society with a couple of mates TV news would ask her to comment on stuff every night.
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May 7, 2019 12:31pm
- Tall Man
  
  And I suppose being a person “of no consequence” she shouldn’t even have an opinion let alone have the audacity to express it.
  
  I guess you eagerly await the next edition of “lizzie marvelly” or some other fuckwit’s every thought and opinion because she is person of “consequence”……
  
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  May 7, 2019 12:40pm
- MrTips
  
  I agree. Jack Tame, Simon Wilson, Lizzie Marvelly, Hillary Barry, Anika Moa, Jeremy Elwood, all “millennial reporters”, Haley Holt, and anyone else others care to name are of no consequence. Sack them right now.
  
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  May 7, 2019 1:04pm
John Warren

Other than selected programs broadcast in the wee hours, Radio NZ is now dead to me, or at least terminally ill. I never liked Guyon Espiner, but I could at least appreciate, when he chose to speak English, that he had an IQ at least a little higher than that of a stone. Well, Guyon’s seat is now occupied by the renowned leftie stooge and ponderously blinking dumb guy Corin Dann. It’s too much. I’ve permanently switched my morning listening to the BBC World Service, and say what you like about the modern BBC and its lefty liberal leanings, I at least feel when listening to it that I am not being completely taken for an idiot.

I’m open to other suggestions though – must be other worthy internet streams. Does anybody have any particular recommendations?
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May 7, 2019 1:14pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Sam Harris, fairly diverse rationalist/athiest, an honest and genuine trader with some leftist leanings who interviews a wide range of subjects (most famous for getting Ben Affleck angry on Bill Mahers show over criticism of islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60
  
  Joe Rogan for slightly right wing bias and less intellectualism – more every-man level, wildly popular, great range of interviews.
  
  Dave Rubin ‘Rubin report’ long form interviews.
  ex-leftie and a nice open and honest guy. Great for interviewing lots of most interesting people at heart of ‘intellectual dark web’ mostly more right leaning than not, but also others. Has toured with Jordan Peterson. I found his interviews with geniuses Eric Weinstein and Peter Thiel very interesting.
  
  Steven Crowder (conservative, catholic, entertaining something of a shock jock)
  
  Ben Shapiro (conservative, devout jew, very sharp political idealist)
  
  For more anti-pc social commentary Sargon of Akkad (UK), very clever guy.
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:18pm
  - Fletch
    
    I would add, Mark Levin. (Right/Conservative, worked in the Reagan Administration). He’s been proved correct more often than not about Trump being spied on by the Obama admin, etc. He often lets the libs have it with both barrels.
    
    http://www.westwoodonepodcasts.com/pods/the-mark-levin-audio-rewind/
    
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    May 7, 2019 6:26pm
bill ramsay

I was walking down Jervois Quay this morning. Sir William English walked past, I nodded and said hello, as did he in return.

He looked wonderfully relaxed. And rightly so. He also looked like he was busy.
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May 7, 2019 1:30pm
- cmm
  
  No doubt still adding value to society.
  
  The current one will be back to wrapping chips under supervison.
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:11pm
- softail 1450
  
  bill ,all his good work being pissed away by this disgraceful cabal of a coalition.
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:20pm
softail 1450

OMG ,Arderne in parliament,answering questions while fiddling with her ring,pass the barf bags…
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May 7, 2019 2:12pm
softail 1450

The POS Mallard just booted Bridges for no good reason ,The whole system in this country is being degraded by the day …
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May 7, 2019 2:15pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Trevor alleges Bridges made a ‘barnyard noise’ . Did he call Mallard a cock?
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:43pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    He didn’t get booted for making a ‘barnyard noise’, he got booted because he accused Mallard of being unprofessional.
    Which he is.
    
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    May 7, 2019 3:12pm
- Poppa
  
  Mallard the worst speaker in the history of man
  
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  May 7, 2019 2:56pm
- doggone7
  
  Don’t be shy, tell us verbatim what was said. Tell us particularly what the rest of us didn’t hear that Mallard did. Should be about 40 seconds worth.
  
  Then we can see the ‘no good reason.’
  
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  May 7, 2019 3:10pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Tape embedded here:
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/388672/national-party-leader-simon-bridges-ejected-from-parliament-during-question-time
    
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    May 7, 2019 3:47pm
Engelbert Humperdink

Q: why did the gorilla pass up on a mallard?
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May 7, 2019 2:41pm
RW Capitalist

https://gab.com/media/image/bq-5c6329dcbd5e6.jpeg
Interesting thought?
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May 7, 2019 2:43pm
cmm

South Africa goes to the polls tomorrow.

Only 65% are registered to vote, so much for the importance of one-man-one-vote!

The ANC has now been running the show for 25 years and ran things into the ground and corruption etc are worse than ever before.

ANC promises are wearing thin after 25 years and there is a good chance the ANC will lose their majority and end up making coalitions.

A likely coalition partner is the EFF – a bunch of people thrown out of the ANC for being too radical. That will put some serious comrades into kingmaker position.
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May 7, 2019 2:54pm
rangitoto

Waikato DHB sacked.
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May 7, 2019 3:39pm
ex-golfer

After an attempted egging ScoMo seems to want to have it both ways:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/112530931/australian-pm-scott-morrison-egged-by-protester-on-campaign-trail

He was quick to label “eggboy” a hero, but now tweets that he will “stand up to thuggery whether it’s these cowardly activists who have no respect for anyone, or militant unionists standing over small businesses and their employees on work sites.”

I don’t condone any form of violent protest.
But being hypocritical is not a great look…….whatever side of the political spectrum you are from.
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May 7, 2019 4:10pm
- softail 1450
  
  Ex golfer ,must have been a leftie that thru the egg ,the silly thing must have hard boiled it…
  
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  May 7, 2019 5:19pm
Tony Stuart

Here’s something you don’t see every day; one of New Zealand’s most senior political reporters (who has of late been a strong Ardern supporter) makes an allegation of bias against the Speaker:

Audrey Young @audreyNZH

National leader Simon Bridges made a noise, Speaker Trevor Mallard described it as a barnyard-like noise, Bridges called him unprofessional, Mallard kicked him out.
Last week Mallard compared a Nat MP to a gorilla. Mallard’s bias is a problem.

2:22 PM – 7 May 2019

I’ve seen today’s incident. Mallard heard a noise, which he later described as a “barnyard noise”, and was very quick to accuse Simon Bridges of making it. Bridges took a Point of Order where he said “I made no such noise, and it is entirely wrong and unfair for you Mr Speaker to say that sort of unprofessional comment”

Here’s the video; the fun starts at around 9:40:

https://www.parliament.nz/en/WatchParliament/PlayVideo/OnDemand/206256
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May 7, 2019 4:15pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  So just like a lousy school teacher, Mallard makes an accusation without any evidence.
  
  Decidedly unprofessional.
  
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  May 7, 2019 4:18pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Isn’t it common practice the house, that when someone says something, you MUST believe them?
    So Mallard broke parliamentary rules himself by effectively calling Bridges a liar, when he claimed he NEVER made the supposedly offensive “barnyard noise”
    
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    May 7, 2019 6:06pm
- kowtow
  
  Don’t know about barn yard noises there , but there’s a hell of a lot of barnyard animals , all with their snouts feeding out of the trough , provided by workers and tax payers…..oink oink.
  
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  May 7, 2019 4:33pm
MCos

Myanmar finally releases two reporters who reported on killing of Rohingya Muslims by the military.
https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/05/jailed-reuters-journalists-freed-prison-myanmar-190507024627552.html
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May 7, 2019 4:34pm
Monique Watson

Haha That is classic and Bridges is definitely a Leader:

National Leader Simon Bridges has been kicked out of the House and accused of making ‘barnyard animal’ noises.

They hate him because he is a danger to Princezz Boots.

https://www.parliament.nz/en/WatchParliament/PlayVideo/OnDemand/206256
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May 7, 2019 5:38pm
RW Capitalist

I hear the annual growth rate has fallen to 2.0%
Doing a little Maths
June quarter 2018…….0.9%
Sept quarter 2018……..0.3%
Dec quarter 2018………0.6%
That would make the March 2019 quarter …0.2%
Recession coming?
I hear GDP growth per capita was 0.0%
Was this the most important number according to the Labout opposition at the time, as CoL they are strangely SILENT and only want to talk about “wellness”
I couldn’t begin to imagine why….(sarc)
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May 7, 2019 5:53pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Meaning the next quarter would have to have a jump to 0.9%, just to hold at 2% annually
  Less than half of what that horrible man Trump has achieved…they are going forward and we are in full retreat.
  Wonder what the numbers would have looked like if National had been elected?
  Tax cuts
  No strikes
  followed by rising wages
  lower unemployment
  higher business confidence
  more respect internationally
  So why did people vote for CoL, with such OBVIOUS benefits, that were easily predictable.
  A corrupt and dishonest media perhaps?
  
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  May 7, 2019 5:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

So the left want to disarm the citizens – and build trains and tracks.
I will let you think about that. Take your time
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May 7, 2019 6:01pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Arbeit macht frei
  
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  May 8, 2019 3:34am
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND Housing Minister’s concern as report reveals New Zealand cities ‘performing poorly’ | Newshub

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/housing-minister-s-concern-as-report-reveals-new-zealand-cities-performing-poorly.html

Phil Twyford is concerned about the performance of New Zealand cities after a report revealed we’re struggling to compete against Australia’s.

High house prices, sluggish income growth and higher transport and food expenditure are to blame for New Zealand cities lagging behind, the report found.

“Our cities are performing poorly because we have not been managing growth properly,” Twyford, the Housing and Urban Development Minister, told Newshub. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… New Zealand Housing Minister Twyfords important late March speech …

New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat

… extract …

… In our view there are three big challenges that have to be addressed:

1. A broken system for financing infrastructure

2. A planning system based on urban containment

3. The failure of governments until now, both local and central, to actively work with the private sector to enable urban growth and expansion. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… Important background information via …
http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org

The ‘flight to affordability’ will gain momentum … both internally and externally (to Australia) … should the political; dithering continue Mr Twyford.
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