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krazykiwi

The Biosecurity New Zealand have announced a range of new measures to combat the risk of white supremacists arriving in New Zealand.

Head of the Virulent and Infectious Defence unit, Mr Edgar Beaver says that from next week, all incoming aircraft will be sprayed for white supremacists. “Many older travelers will remember this practice. It is regrettable that have to re-start this program, but it’s a very small inconvenience for the sake of the country”. Setting policy aside, Mr Beaver observed that this is a personal mission for him. “My father worked for the Ministry of Agriculture back in the 1970, suiting up to spray incoming DC-10’s. One white supremacist made its way into New Zealand, we think as a result of budget cuts limiting the number of aerosol cans we could use on each flight. I’m picking up the fight here”.

There’s good reason for us to focus on this. Dr Bone from the Toxic Pest faculty of Otago University said “These newly arrived pests breed like flies. Since the arrival of that single white supremacist, way back in the mid 1970’s, the population has spread alarmingly. Our research suggests there are now 5 white supremacists living in New Zealand. Something has to be done, and quickly”

Biosecurity New Zealand appear to be upping the anti. “This time around we’re extending the fight to inbound shipping” says Mr Beaver. “Operators of all freight and cruise ships will be required to sign sworn declarations the their vessels are guaranteed free from white supremacists before docking. Without a sworn declaration our officials have no choice but to deny the vessel entry into New Zealand.”. Mr Beaver went on to say that any operator trying a ‘neither confirm nor deny’ approach will be denied entry, and escorted from New Zealand waters by a Navy frigate, or by a Navy inflatable dinghy if no frigate is available.
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May 20, 2019 8:00am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Veracity, will NOT be taken into account when the tax working group recommends a taxation rate for sarcasm.
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:55am
- BrownSnake
  
  Personally I have always used
  
  OI OI OI Brand
  Skinheads under the bed repellent powder
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:35am
- The King
  
  Hue hue. 3 years of intense online censorship led to the worst mass murder NZ has ever seen.
  
  You know how to stop this? more mass censorship.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:59am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Are they attracted to a particular pheromone, they can set traps?
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:37am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Particularly attracted to leather, chains and piercings ?
    
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    May 20, 2019 1:48pm
- BullyHayes
  
  get the dinghy ready.
  
  nz currently doesnt have any frigates available as the are all – two of them! – in longterm drydock for upgrades
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:48am
  - krazykiwi
    
    A fleet of dinghies is on order.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:17pm
- kevn
  
  @Krazy… I wonder what measures are in place for cockroaches?
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:49am
  - Kleva Kiwi
    
    None. We allow all of them in without question
    
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    May 20, 2019 1:08pm
    - The King
      
      ooosh.
      
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      May 20, 2019 3:33pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      And then we ‘elect’ some of them to govern us via MMP.
      
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      May 21, 2019 2:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Just read this at 5.26pm. You win the internet today
  
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  May 20, 2019 5:28pm
Lee C

https://www.facebook.com/nzmorningreport/videos/2354297134856296/?notif_id=1558294715467522&notif_t=live_video_share
live now.
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May 20, 2019 8:05am
- Raphael
  
  but I thought we were told that Livestreaming is evil?
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:19am
- Bill felt
  
  Can Corin Dann ask Ardern the same question about capital adequacy rules for banks?
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:23am
artemisia

“A fair go for those that give it a go.”

It’s not just an Australian thing. New Zealand was also built on this, once upon a time.

But what we have here in New Zealand these days is ‘aspiration’, but not for net taxpayers.
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May 20, 2019 8:07am
- Piniwi
  
  Right A it is becoming clear that their aspirations all require a lot of perspiration from the taxpayers. Luckily their increasingly extended timelines make them like a cheap inner tube that only hold air at the top. No amount of inflation will see it roll again.
  
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  May 20, 2019 12:19pm
artemisia

ScoMo. BoJo? SiBri?
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May 20, 2019 8:08am
Raphael

And in the fallout over ScoMo’s election victory, the Left prove once again they are nasty:
https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/australians-are-dumb-celebs-fury-at-scott-morrison-federal-election-win/news-story/8392a4c2d8540d0c895808896c61409d
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May 20, 2019 8:11am
- hullkiwi
  
  ….and we don’t want these people in NZ either.
  
  It’s fine being a chardonnay/champagne socialist celebrity telling everybody else to pay more tax. I suppose it is ok if you are a celebrity waste of space.
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:27am
  - kevn
    
    @hull… I met an older Aussie the other week. She proudly told me she was/still/always has been an ‘academic’ (as in fundamentally non-productive) and labor would win which was going to make her very happy.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:48am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Tell me you didn’t laugh at the poor misguided fool.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:02am
  - septic skeptic
    
    I guess that’s one of the consequences of having Cindy showing off on the world stage. It increases the chances of woke lefties trying to migrate here and peddle their nonsense.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:57am
- MickMac
  
  Raphael
  On TV1 just now, the old boy John and the Greenie were lamenting on people not telling the truth to the pollsters.
  
  DUH!
  They just didn’t get THEY (the left) are the problem!
  It is their rudeness in tone and condescension towards people that leads to them not disclosing their choices.
  
  With their biased spin in the word choice and tone they just don’t get it.
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:31am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And the reason for that is that you don’t want your windows put in or your car smashed ’cause, nobody does loosing badly like the left that then translates into smashing the ‘capitalist swine’ stuff.
    
    Nobody does hate like the left.
    
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    May 20, 2019 8:58am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Perhaps they would have preferred the polls to be correct and show a LNP win all along.
    I would probably meant that win would have been bigger, as more Labour voters stayed home.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:02am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Exactly. In the privacy of the polling booth, citizens are free from the leftist bullying and ad hominems that underpin public discourse these days.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:14am
    - sooty
      
      But as soon as you step out the door, some clipboard worryer gets in yah face. Who did you vote for? The greens mate, is the answer!
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:46am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Maybe I’m just belligerent
        I always say NATIONAL and dare them to argue with me.
        
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        May 20, 2019 1:04pm
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        I always say ‘I vote the straight University ticket – Stalin, Lenin, and Hellin.’
        
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        May 21, 2019 2:17pm
  - freethinker
    
    Perhaps the left are learning that voters like lefty pollys are following their example say one thing do something else – close down free speech and be surprised by unexpected results.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:40am
- peterwn
  
  They would be shown to be dumb when their superannuation schemes would have been walloped by the removal of franking credits. That proposal by Bill Shorten would have touched far more Aussies than Bill and his mates though.
  I would also ask those celebs resident in Sydney:
  1. Do you use the train or 400 bus to the airport? Or is that for the ‘dumb’ people to use.
  2. Will you use the Circular Quay to Randwick/Kingsford tram when it starts running (supposedly this coming December)?
  3. Do you have an Opal Card (Sydney’s equivalent to a Snapper Card).
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:35am
  - godruelf
    
    It was great the retired in aus took the shadow treasurer Chris Bowen pre election advice If you don’t like our tax ideas don’t vote labor.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:26am
    - coge
      
      About the most sensible thing Bowen has ever said.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:29am
- Chris2
  
  It was the same here in the NZ 2017 election with “so-called” comedian Jeremy Elwood wishing those who had not voted labour ought to f****d with a barbed-wire d*8*.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/09/no_outcry_over_this_one.html
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:41am
  - srylands
    
    I used to watch 7 Days occasionally. Stopped when some nasty woman treated David Seymour like shit. That show has pocketed over a million dollars in public funding.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:02am
  - John Warren
    
    Ever since that horrendous outburst, Elwood and his missus have been something I’d barely stoop to scrape off my shoe.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:41am
- PhilP
  
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:32pm
sooty

Cindys back to day after saving the world!
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May 20, 2019 8:11am
- Chris2
  
  Yes, a week in Paris, but 12 hours in Beijing.
  
  She knows where her priorities are.
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:37am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Like Lange and Clark before her…her “priorities” are with her own profile.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:07am
  - sooty
    
    She must have taken the baby with her, or it’s along time between feeds!
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:19am
  - Rich Prick
    
    It probably took a week to pick out the fakeugees as her gift to us all.
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:02am
Happychappy

What a bunch of tosses we have running this Country and to cover up their incompetence they have teamed up with MSM to fight white supremacy by allocating money from the budget to keep the media and the left happy. They can’t afford to pay teachers, doctors or life saving medicine’s to help cancer patients but can blow millions to fight white supremacy when companies like the Herald and Newsroom do columns on them.
Ùhttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/revealed-government-to-allocate-budget-funding-to-fight-white-supremacy.amp.html
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May 20, 2019 8:13am
- The King
  
  Phillip Arps a law abiding tax paying Employer of a dozen people the real face of WHITE SUPREMACY!
  
  Yes spend less money on NZ’rs more on phantom boogey men, this will stop White Supremacy.
  
  I’ve never seen a more incompetent intelligence agency who have all the tools in the world and can’t do any better than a 4chan investigation thread. This is what happens when you are blinded by political ideology.
  
  Give me a million dollars and i will find the White Supremacists and give them jobs and keep them under control, oh wait thats what Phillip Arps did! nevermind!
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:15am
  - Komata
    
    The king@1015
    
    Methinks you are being a bit tough on the Spooks there sir; they are also subject to whatever whim those in power care to come up with, and do with the information that they supply to them.
    
    It’s not their fault if the PM et al deliberately distort what they are given.
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:29am
    - The King
      
      Erm “The NZSIS believes that to succeed against increasingly complex global threats, it must develop a dynamic, agile workforce that reflects diversity in its widest context.”
      
      https://www.nzsis.govt.nz/careers/
      
      Nope i’m right. They are not even recruiting people based on talent they are recruiting based on diversity quotas.
      
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      May 20, 2019 12:48pm
      - MickMac
        
        The King
        now that is sad to hear.
        
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        May 20, 2019 5:30pm
mikenmildagain

Happy World Metrology Day!
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May 20, 2019 8:14am
- JibberJabber
  
  I was a bit cautious about giving you an uptick cos` I thought if I gave you an inch you`d probably take a mile.
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:31am
  - sooty
    
    It’s just the weather!
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:20am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Terminology is so confusing.
      
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      May 20, 2019 9:41am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      I like this add, when applied to climate change alarmists.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da0YARpkI3U
      
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      May 20, 2019 9:59am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        What on Earth made you think this comment was anything to do withclimate change?
        
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        May 20, 2019 10:29am
Lee C

Kiwiblog is now where I come for my news!
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May 20, 2019 8:16am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  You won’t be very well informed then. Kiwiblog is a forum for entertainment – ‘happy mischief’ if you will.
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:25am
  - John Warren
    
    As a source for news it’s probably at least as good as those outlets that presently masquerade as our mainstream media.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:44am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      It’s not a ‘source’ of news – it’s blog commentary on selected news items, for lulz.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:30am
      - John Warren
        
        I think you missed my point, Mike.
        
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        May 20, 2019 1:15pm
  - The King
    
    What happened to you mike you use to be witty, now you’re just depressing.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:19am
- dave_c_
  
  Lee – A good starting point, but you run the risk that you may only see what you expect. Look further abroad, there ae a number of good sites providing ‘real news’
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:36am
  - sooty
    
    But Cindy gets hers from the tv!
    It must be true!
    
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    May 20, 2019 8:49am
  - John Warren
    
    Please provide a list. Seriously. I’ve completely given up Stuff and the Horrid. RNZ is the best of a terrible bunch right now.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:45am
    - sooty
      
      I have not been back to that horald site since.
      But I to say that the stuffed site is second rate.
      Never watch tv news, morning or evening.
      A good news site would be good!
      I had to go aust sites over the weekend.
      Stuffed is still pushing CC shooting as though it happened only on friday.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:54am
    - Jack5
      
      Red Radio the best of a terrible bunch????
      
      On its web site today, a column by former Labour staffer Lamia Imam in effect calling for censorship of the internet.
      
      Then on Nine to Doom, Megan Woods says international re-insurers have a great deal of confidence in New Zealand.
      
      Rock ‘n roll on the Pacific Rim of Fire.
      
      But to be fair, Woods says there is no rush to reintroduce a State insurance company (which would pick up the riskiest part of market).
      
      Woods was sounder than I expected, and seemed to have a rational grip on the problem.
      
      Get up to speed on the insurance headache of the shaky isles:
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018695812/earthquake-damage-insurance-dr-megan-woods
      
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      May 20, 2019 11:03am
      - John Warren
        
        ‘Fraid so, Jack. At least in my estimation. But very left.
        
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        May 20, 2019 11:28am
Happychappy

This is link.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/revealed-government-to-allocate-budget-funding-to-fight-white-supremacy.amp.html
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May 20, 2019 8:19am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “alt right” or “white supremacist”
  Is that a “movement”???
  Is it a religion???
  Is it an organization???
  Is it a club?????
  Or ..is it a new swear word, that socialists use to describe ANYONE who disagrees with them, in an attempt to demonize them into silence?
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:13am
  - stephieboy
    
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    White supremcy is this,
    
    https://me.me/i/hey-so-remember-when-donald-trump-said-only-america-first-9384805
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:38am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      NO that is people dressed in KKK robes, by the car in the background and hair styles, from the 60’s.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:06am
    - Alien
      
      perhaps Stephanie you don’t realise america first actually means america’s not matter their race, gender, etc. na, you just like to post rubbish and then run away when people have you up to it.
      
      No body tell Stephanie about NZ First
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:15am
  - The King
    
    Repeated smears of ‘white supremacy’ is a big smoke screen. It shelters gross disparities in the races. It covers up the miserable failure of minorities and natural ability of whites to successfully create the most desirable nations and neighborhoods in the world to live in. Everybody wants to live in nations with the most White Supremacists…
    
    Prove me wrong.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:24am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    There can be a difference between:
    a supremacist (our ____ is better than anyone else’s _____) and an
    ethno-centrist (our ____ is crap, but it’s our crap, and we love it because it’s ours and ours alone).
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:49am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Soon to be shortened to just ‘White’, no ext. necessary.
    
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    May 20, 2019 6:00pm
- tf78
  
  I would have called he who shall not be named an ‘inferior white Australian’- nothing supreme about him.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:57am
  - Jack5
    
    You had me puzzled there for a minute, tf78, then I realised you must be referring to Brenton Harrison Tarrant, destined to be a long, long-term resident of Paremoremo – Auckland Prison.
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:46am
    - Piniwi
      
      But J few believe Tarrant is not aware of how well the PM is carrying out his every wish over and above his wildest dreams. Lets not forget she got an advance copy of his manifesto then took until the following Tuesday to issue the edict of “he who not be named”. Slow learner or needing all those photo ops ahead of all else? As we have seen by the results timing is everything.
      
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      May 20, 2019 3:09pm
- Alien
  
  i expect equal funding to fight all sorts of racism, otherwise this in itself is racist.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:13am
- Rich Prick
  
  White supremacy is now official, it has a budget. How the gummint intends fighting “it”, I don’t quite know.
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:06am
  - The King
    
    Easy, find some young pro European lad (naive) shower him with money,praise, be a ‘dad figure in his life’ incite him into planning an attack and hey presto headline – “GSCB stops planned White Supremacist terrorist attack they planned and set up”
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:53am
  - tf78
    
    I’ve just watched Ezra Levant talking about the”Christchurch Call” and Trudeau. They must think the people are soooooo stuuuuuupid.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:11pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      That is a great commentary. Link here for anyone interested.
      
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      May 20, 2019 1:48pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Agreed
        
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        May 20, 2019 6:12pm
softail 1450

Jan Logie has had a complete “makeover” she looks strangely heterosexual .
That reminds me I’m overdue for my regular therapy session…….
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May 20, 2019 8:22am
- hullkiwi
  
  Therapy and eye exam?
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:04am
  - sooty
    
    You should have gone to specsavers!
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:56am
- John Warren
  
  I believe there are websites which can help. They have lots of Xs in their urls. If your budget can stretch a little, I will take you to see a nice young lady I know…
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:36am
Yvette

Ngaro’s support of “abortion equals Holocaust”
Press Release: Jami-Lee Ross 19/5/2019
… On Saturday Mr Ngaro shared on Facebook the comments of an anti-abortion post where it is claimed that abortion is “… an unholy Holocaust in our nation”.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1905/S00188/ngaros-support-of-abortion-equals-holocaust.htm

Alfred Ngaro MP – Facebook –
… Abortion is not an ‘issue’. It is a travesty of justice and has become an unholy holocaust in our nation. 50 lives taken EVERY working day of every week. Every 10 minutes a life taken.

Neither Jami-Lee Ross nor Newshub seem to note that Alfred Ngaro pasted a printed invitation, which it seems he didn’t actually write, and which uses a lower case ‘h’ for ‘holocaust. Both Ross and Newshub have given the word a capital ‘H’ making it ‘Holocaust’, so considerably changing its meaning.

So, either Jami-Lee Ross and Newshub are a little ignorant, or they are of course themselves trivialising the Holocaust in a way perhaps a little nastier than that which they accuse Alfred Ngaro of doing.

”I also think any politician endorsing the trivialising of the Holocaust needs to be called out. – Ross
Yes, Jami-Lee, you have that part right.
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May 20, 2019 8:24am
- Happychappy
  
  Simon Bridges has ruled out doing a deal with any Religious Party in Botany at the next Election.
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/112842730/simon-bridges-rules-out-any-deal-over-botany-with-possible-religious-party.
  You watch all the Bridge haters make a meal over this.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:04am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Has he ruled out any of his MPs quitting National to set up a new sock puppet party?
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:43am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      sock puppet party
      I don’t think any new party will be calling themselves “Alliance”…now there was a sock puppet party
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:08am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        So the Alliance shambles would mean you endorse National Party MPs plotting to form a new party?
        
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        May 20, 2019 10:32am
  - Ross12
    
    Well HC , I hope Bridge’s is just being cute by saying no deal for Botany, but unsaid there could be an arrangement in another electorate.
    If not and he is bowing to pressure for an answer from the media he is stupid.
    He should not be closing off any possibilities. We have this crazy MMP system and so to win you have to use whatever works within that system. There is no way National will win on it’s own.
    
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    May 20, 2019 3:51pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      One would hope that political parties form around reasonably coherent ideas and then seek to work with other parties. Instead we seem to be getting obsessed with the idea of spawning handy little coalition partners from within the ranks of existing parties.
      
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      May 20, 2019 4:12pm
      - Ross12
        
        Who says Alfred Nagaro’s proposed party will not be based around reasonably coherent ideas? We do not know any details yet, do we MM.
        We need to wait an see how things develop before jumping to any conclusions.
        
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        May 20, 2019 4:38pm
- G152
  
  Jami Lee criticizing some-one for something they didn’t say???
  The crazy in that one is deep
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:23am
  - Yvette
    
    No, G153, it is a little more subtle than that.
    It would appear Jami-Lee is criticising Ngaro for something he actually didn’t say, but also it is Jami-Lee Ross who is defining what he says Ngaro said.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:00am
    - MCos
      
      Is that another one of those ads for Catch 22?
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:11am
  - Paulus
    
    Assume Tova just back from shopping Paris is still advising JLR.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:45am
  - GoVege
    
    Cheap shot, G152.
    And the difference between a capital H and a lower case one ain’t very much, Yvette.
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:03am
- Raphael
  
  What Ross doesn’t seem to understand is that us Pro-Lifer’s calling abortion a holocaust is not trivialising the Holocaust, but point out exactly how bad we think abortion is.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:25am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Rapheal,
    
    Abortion a holcaust is a false equivalence!
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:35am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Being male, my “opinion” regarding a women’s body are largely irrelevant.
    But my opinion of abortion is, for what it is worth.
    1. A determination needs to be made re when is the entity (only generic word I could think of), part of the woman and totally dependent and when is it independent.
    2. Safety of both (life and death) issues need to be determined.
    3. Circumstance, rape/ incest etc MUST have a bearing.
    4. Convenience should have LESS (not NO) impact on the decision, that is what contraception and abstinence is for. THINK …BEFORE you act.
    On that (there are more, but am having trouble articulating them to myself).
    Abortion…
    legal
    Only in 1st trimester, unless extra ordinary circumstances.
    Father of baby held responsible too
    Teach kids from a young age (8 year olds) what the responsibility of parenthood actually is.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:38am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      There is another wrinkle to all this.
      That nobody seems to consider.
      ADOPTION.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:12am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Gonna make those women carry their rapists’ babies and then take the child away for adoption?
        
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        May 20, 2019 10:33am
      - sooty
        
        But remember,
        “Some Other Cunts Kids” SOCKS!
        
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        May 20, 2019 11:00am
    - iMP
      
      Yes, women’s body women’s right. They should be allowed to smuggle drugs into Asia internally.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:46am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        That would make a hilarious cartoon. Do you know any good cartoonists?
        
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        May 20, 2019 11:03am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Only when ones boogie board bag is full and you have fifteen years of your life to waste with fellow travellers in a third world shithole prison
        
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        May 20, 2019 11:14am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      I think current NZ law/system is fine, abortion numbers generally trending down, women obviously don’t like having abortions, but accidents happen. New Alabama law is dumb. But if you set up exceptions for things like rape then women will just have to claim they were raped.
      
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      May 20, 2019 11:36am
  - GoVege
    
    Raphael: I personally believe that slaughtering millions of frightened animals is REALLY BAD….but I wouldn’t call it a H/holocaust because that would be offensive to the victims of the Nazis and their families.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:31pm
- Debbie
  
  I had never heard of Alfred Ngaro before this, but now he has my respect.
  
  Together with the recent law changes in the States, I’m starting to regain a bit of faith in humanity.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:27am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Recent law changes by 25 male Repblicans ?
    
    Your joking
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:37am
    - Raphael
      
      stephieboy
      Recent law changes by 25 male Repblicans ?
      
      Your joking
      
      So I take it you think Roe v Wade should be repealed as the decision was made by old white men?
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:32am
    - iMP
      
      All those women in the suffragette movement. Let’s not dismiss ideas on the basis of gender ratios. Idiotic. 1 single woman went to Gallipoli.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:48am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        True. It wasn’t a very good idea to go to Gallipoli. Perhaps a woman should have been in charge.
        
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        May 20, 2019 11:05am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Labour are going to have more trouble with the Pacific Island vote.
    Most are VERY Christian and, I believe, will vote for a “Christian” party as Labour/Greens move further away from their values.
    Rugby/Rugby league my have similar issues re Israel Falau.
    NOTE:
    I am an atheist and am observing from the outside.
    I also have tremendous respect for all of faith, I just don’t have it.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:43am
    - GoVege
      
      Then how come Pacifica women have such high rates of abortion, RWC?
      Fortunately for them its a secret ballot…
      
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      May 20, 2019 11:16am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Liar
        Stats NZ (sorry about the table not coming out right)
        Pacifica women and abortion
        2009…..2360
        2017……1369
        Compared to
        European
        2009…..10113
        2017……7511
        Maori
        2009….4131
        2017…..3111
        Induced abortions by ethnicity of woman(1) Ethnic group(2)(3) December year
        2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017
        
        European(4) 9,859 10,546 10,499 10,113 9,378 9,044 8,266 8,015 7,564 7,613 7,283 7,519
        Māori 4,097 4,304 4,250 4,131 4,056 3,855 3,596 3,459 3,012 3,080 2,896 3,111
        Pacific 2,134 2,289 2,230 2,360 2,228 2,054 1,985 1,712 1,544 1,487 1,380 1,369
        Asian 2,935 2,947 2,875 2,892 2,778 2,649 2,480 2,405 2,358 2,382 2,563 2,630
        MELAA(5) 213 203 206 216 207 189 169 158 156 165 170 199
        Other(6) 51 48 25 23 17 22 12 20 23 13 12 6
        
        Not stated 211 246 64 57 126 25 50 30 36 57 37 70
        
        Induced abortions 17,934 18,382 17,940 17,550 16,630 15,863 14,745 14,073 13,137 13,155 12,823 13,285
        
        1. Induced abortions registered in New Zealand.
        2. People can belong to more than one ethnic group. For this reason, the number of abortions by ethnicity sum to more than the
        total number of abortions. Ethnicity from 2006 is based on the New Zealand standard classification 2005. For 2002–05,
        ethnicity is based on the New Zealand standard classification 1996.
        3. The series references are ABNA.S45&D.
        4. Before 2006, New Zealanders were included in the European ethnic group.
        5. Middle Eastern, Latin American, and African. MELAA is comparable with ‘other’ under the 1996 ethnicity classification.
        6. Includes New Zealanders and other ethnicities not elsewhere included.
        
        Source: Stats NZ
        
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        May 20, 2019 12:04pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        A rate needs to be relative to demographic, in percentages.
        
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        May 20, 2019 1:08pm
      - GoVege
        
        RWC: Considering that Pacifica people are only 7.4% of the NZ population in 2013.
        Compared to Europeans being 75%.
        Then shouldn’t Pacifica women be having about half as many terminations as they actually are?
        But the great news is their rate has dropped by a huge amount.
        Must be getting access to the contraception that is unavailable in their homelands.
        
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        May 20, 2019 1:12pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Go vege
        So assuming you are correct.
        7.5% PI population means 3/1000 PI’s have abortions
        15% Maori population means 4/1000Maori have abortions
        75% European population means 2.2/1000 Europeans have abortions
        
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        May 20, 2019 2:26pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Gotta criminalise those loose women who let themselves get raped and then don’t want to raise a precious baby, huh?
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:48am
    - Debbie
      
      Perhaps resources would be better spent in preventing rapes – both locking rapists up longer, and teaching young girls the truth, that your right to say no means absolutely nothing to a rapist (otherwise they wouldn’t be a rapist) and to take steps to prevent being in a situation to begin with.
      
      If you make exceptions to allow abortion in the case of rape, the logical result is more women will cry rape when it wasn’t.
      
      Besides, there are many women who have children to men who have beaten and otherwise abused them and still love those kids dearly. The family Court is full of people of both genders who prove this point.
      
      Abortion is murder. And in this day and age, with contraception as affective as it is, there should be no need for any unplanned pregnancy whatsoever.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:03am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Blaming the victims for being raped, nice.
        And if the rapist loves the zygote, force the woman to keep it.
        
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        May 20, 2019 12:28pm
      - GoVege
        
        Of course theres no need for unplanned pregnancies WHATSOEVER.
        All those thousands of teenage girls raped/ molested / coerced into unprotected sex have NO excuse!
        Or those hundreds of girls in Auckland pimped out by mum and the local gang.
        They should be forced to have kids to their clients from 13 on…
        
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        May 20, 2019 2:47pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      I think you are mistaking her for a Muslim.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:14am
    - Raphael
      
      mikenmildagain
      Gotta criminalise those loose women who let themselves get raped and then don’t want to raise a precious baby, huh?
      
      Nothing in the new laws criminalises the woman.
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:33am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yeah, sure. It’s the doctor providing medical care who is the real criminal?
        So 99 years in prison for terminating the pregnancy of a rape victim?
        Was the impossibility of getting an abortion in Alabama the “some form of punishment” for women that Trump campaigned on?
        
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        May 20, 2019 10:41am
      - Raphael
        
        So you think that Ryan Scott Bomberger should have been murdered because his biological father raped his mother?
        
        http://www.radiance.life/iamtheonepercent
        
        Or Rebecca Kiessling, who was also conceived in rape? https://rebeccakiessling.com/
        
        What about all those children who have just been told by the Left they would be better off dead because their parents were poor? because they have Downs Syndrome? Because of the crimes of a parent?
        
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        May 20, 2019 11:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I reject the premise of your question, abortion is not murder.
        
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        May 20, 2019 1:26pm
      - Raphael
        
        mikenmildagain
        I reject the premise of your question, abortion is not murder.
        
        It’s a human life being ended unnaturally and prematurely and through no fault of it’s own.
        
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        May 20, 2019 3:46pm
    - iMP
      
      Are you talking about the woman in the womb?
      
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      May 20, 2019 10:51am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Do get a grip.
      
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      May 20, 2019 11:20am
  - Lance
    
    Not only is Alfred a nice guy, he was an electrician before becoming an MP.
    As in he actually worked for a living
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:19am
    - lcdc
      
      Now there’s a novelty amongst MPs.
      
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      May 20, 2019 9:52pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I read where Alabama is proposing new felony laws that would see doctors who perform abortions jailed for something like 99 years.
    Lets see, its 2019 now, when those doctors get out of jail in Alabama it’ll be 1895.
    
    My Body – My choice.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:29am
Paulus

I get the impression that Cindy may be on a downer after Labor being thoroughly stuffed in Australia.
I hear it is a victory for Middle Australia who are tired of the left wing rhetoric and higher taxes of the Labor Party.
It should be a lesson for Cindy that “will” middle New Zealand follow the Australian pattern.
The media, of course, are hating every moment after getting it all wrong – they will do what the can for Cindy but looking at her continual money giveaways people are not going to tell the polls what they really think.
Perhaps that is why the polls were very wrong in Australia too.
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May 20, 2019 8:26am
hullkiwi

Head of the KiwiBuild Unit is surprised that the first seven Canterbury Mike Greer homes have not sold.

Stupid question, did anybody in the KiwiBuild Unit test the market to confirm if there was indeed a market for the homes. Despite claims of a rigorous process to set this development as a KiwiBuild, the evidence is otherwise.
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May 20, 2019 8:31am
- sooty
  
  Yep. They sent the pollsters out and this is what they came back with!
  Weather they asked the right questions int the first place. Is debatable!
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:53am
- krazykiwi
  
  Tywford should have fronted this RNZ piece, rather than forcing the obviously terrified (Helen O’Sullivan?) to explain why the government may be forced to buy these homes.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:24am
  - Paulus
    
    Didn’t Helen O’Sullivan come from the Real Estate Institute so she should have been more savvy as a professional.
    
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    May 20, 2019 10:48am
- Rich Prick
  
  I feel sorry for the neighbourhoods where these KiwiBuild boxes are, because unsold they will become state houses filled with “affordable” tenants.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:31am
  - dave_c_
    
    Rather – filled with ‘deserving newfound’ tenants
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:40am
  - artemisia
    
    Even if Kiwibuild homes are sold to qualifying doctors and marketing managers, as soon as the neighbourhood starts a downward slide, the owners will be planning to turn it into a rental when their 3 years residency is up.
    
    Larger developments are going to have about a third social housing anyway.
    
    Some social housing tenants are absolutely fine, but some are definitely not great neighbours. Only need on bad apple in the barrel.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:42pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  “….did anybody in the KiwiBuild Unit test the market to confirm if there was indeed a market for the homes.”
  BUT capitalism and market forces have “failed”.
  So there was no need to review regional demand.
  Like any business person would have done.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:46am
  - artemisia
    
    But the Kiwibuild Unit takes expert independent advice according to the Minister (Oral Question 2 August 2018). CBRE and Colliers are experts in the real estate market. I wonder what their advice was.
    
    “CBRE, Colliers, and Jasmax are contracted to provide independent expert advice to the KiwiBuild unit for each development.”
    
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    May 20, 2019 1:59pm
hullkiwi

Another development story making the news is the Paddington development in Taranaki Street.

Seems a local councillor (Chair of the Planning &Development Committee) doesn’t like the idea that consent will be given without the ability to influence the development. The reason for his dilemma is that Wellington district Plan, does allow for intensive development like Auckland. Seems he believes they can pump 80,000 people into the Wellington CBD over the next 24 years. On what basis does he come up with the idea that thousands will live in the Wellington CBD?
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May 20, 2019 8:49am
- dave_c_
  
  He probably has absolutely no idea how and on what basis . . . But be assured his masters do !
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:48am
krazykiwi

The Hocky Stick Liar is having a meltdown:

“We have lost Australia for now,” warned Penn State climatologist Michael Mann in an email. “A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species,” he said.
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May 20, 2019 8:50am
- srylands
  
  The only way that Australia can significantly reduce greenhouse emissions is wih nuclear power. It is mostly too dry for hydro. It is too calm for wind farms. So is the whole country going to be powered by solar?
  
  Eventually Australia’s Paris Agreement targets will be quietly shelved.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:09am
- Rich Prick
  
  I really liked this bit:
  
  the fossil fueled Murdoch media empire, which saturated the country with dishonest right-wing campaign propaganda working with a few petrostates including Saudi Arabia, Russia, Trump’s America, and now Australia.
  
  Liberal tears are so salty.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:28am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  You’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.
  
  Is hockeystick Mann still obfuscating in his court case against Mark Steyn?
  
  You just gotta love the way they are amping up the language, apparently its now “climate emergency” and skeptics are now “climate science deniers”…
  
  Wonder when NZ will find its own Autistic wunderkind to provide us with the leadership on this topic we so clearly need? Surely the Herald must have found some photogenic Down’s syndrome kid who can see CO2 in NZ by now?
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:35am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    I think it might still be Mark Steyn not wanting to defend himself in court.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:52am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You’ve got the wrong end of the stick again..
      Steyn has been ready to go to court for 8 years.
      
      https://www.steynonline.com/7734/the-vertigo-at-the-top-of-the-stick
      
      It’s Mann that is pulling every delay tactic….as he did with the Canadian Court System and his case against Dr Tim Ball.
      
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      May 20, 2019 11:25am
Prince

Another day.
Where will the Government spread its (our) munificence today ?
$xxxM for (pick a bandwagon).
Ardern, surrounded by minister, associate minister, sub-minister, minister outside cabinet etc etc, in front of an audience of local party members and NGO about to reap its rewards.
‘Reseach shows that 8,000,000 Kiwis are suffering from xxx. This new funding for bureaucracy will fix it. How will we know ? A new focus group is developing that model.’

Rinse and repeat daily until the money runs out.
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May 20, 2019 9:02am
- kevn
  
  @Prince… The lucky recipients today are….. 7.7 million dollars for GoldCard holders.
  Website, an app and ummm, not much else it seems.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:29am
  - Prince
    
    Yeah, no market for this or else IT Companies would have met it already. But no doubt someone will put their hand out for the $8M.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:31pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Who needs it?
      
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      May 20, 2019 3:14pm
Maggie Pie

CONSUMER TIP #5 – this is a real game changer!

These days, whenever a supplier gifts my partner a few bottles of krappy wine as a ‘thank-you for your service’, rather than sharing it with the staff anymore, he now brings it all home. Last week, he was given a carton of Wolf Blass Yellow Label Shiraz (probaly about 10 bucks from Pak N’ Save?).
A few months back a friend of ours, who works as a Somelier at a flash restaurant, passed on this little secret that will turn even the cheapest Red into something almost drinkable.
1. Remove the cap from the bottle and pour out about a cupful into a glass jug.
2. Add to that 1 Tsp of white caster sugar and stir gently with a fork until disolved.
3. Put the jug into a mivrowave and heat on high for 17 seconds.
4. Then gently stir again to ensure sugar is well and truly disolved.
5. Carefuly pour back into the bottle, recap tightly, and give the bottle few gentle turns.

Thats it. You can either drink it immediately, or its even better if cellared overnight. Weve found you may need to add just a touch more sugar to something like a Shiraz, but just adjust to your taste. My partner has even put it back in a different bottle (a Penfolds Grange) and poured it for friends at a bbq – honestly, its fun to watch them swirl it in their glass then smell and taste it 🙂
As he sez: “Most people wouldn’t know shit from clay”
LOL!!
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May 20, 2019 9:11am
- kevn
  
  @Maggie.. My choice of red wine used to be dictated by whether it had a screwtop or not. Corks almost gone now so that makes the options unlimited.
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:53am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    My wine comes in a cardboard box
    
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    May 20, 2019 2:54pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      @ Mr LB – I checked on that one with my partner for you, he said: “That shouldnt be a prob. Just increase the amount of caster sugar from 1tsp to the full bag”
      
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      May 20, 2019 4:21pm
    - Tall Man
      
      So does mine, 12 bottles at a time……………….
      
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      May 20, 2019 6:37pm
srylands

I took a very rare visit to The Standard to observe their confusion at the Australian election result. Very entertaining. ?
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May 20, 2019 9:13am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Thanks for taking one for the team 😀
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:05am
- RW Capitalist
  
  You prompted me to do the same.
  Leaving me with only one impression and one thing to say.
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..epr…..HAHAHAHA
  Sorry, some reflux there.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:16am
Happychappy

NZ First MP tries to work the Immigration system to favour a relative in the Transport Industry and the media find a way to hide it and come up with another story making him a hero.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/112837184/mp-shane-jones-stops-to-help-distraught-wellington-woman-in-alleged-domestic-violence-incident
People deal with domestic violence every day and there are many people that step in to help, so why Shane Jones what about the less knowns, this is just to stop his deserved bad press on what many would call corruption.
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May 20, 2019 9:24am
Fletch

Apparently, the govt is giving (I think it was) a quarter of a million dollars to women’s refuge to (re)house the pets of victims. I was scanning through radio stations just now, and Kerre whats-her-name on NewsTalkZB was doing a monologue about it all, and asking what sort of people would do this to a defenseless animal, and that there must be “people in this very building, given the size of the building, people walking around who would do this to an animal. What sort of country are we?” etc.

I felt like ringing up and saying, well, OK, but substitute the word abortion for animal abuse. What sort of people are we who would kill our own unborn babies? Our own sons and daughters? I bet that there are people in the very building you work in (it’s pretty big) who have had abortions and are more unfeeling about it than any abuse toward an animal. I would bet that Kerry herself supports a woman’s right to abort her son or daughter.

This is so hypocritical. How she can spout off for half an hour (or whatever it would have been) and scold us as a nation for the way we treat our pets and yet be completely fine with the killing (dismantling, in many cases) of baby humans.

Get some perspective, woman!
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May 20, 2019 9:28am
- GoVege
  
  Fletch, the difference is:
  Abuse (of any species) causes suffering.
  Termination of pregnancy (of any species) is meant to prevent suffering.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:28am
- Overworked
  
  Fletch dear, you sound like a guy.
  
  Women’s choices should never again be made by men, I can remember what the world was like when they were.
  
  Settle down and let go.
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:14am
  - Fletch
    
    Man, or woman, it has nothing to do with sex. Evil things are still evil even if I’m a white, religious man. The people who fought against slavery were a bunch of white, well off, religious men. And most of them did not own plantations of slaves. You don’t have identify with, or be part of a group to be against evil – hence, I don’t have to be a woman to say that abortion is evil and that it should be stopped.
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:35am
    - Overworked
      
      I agree that you can say that abortion is evil and should be stopped, and in fact I don’t approve of abortion after 12 weeks unless the foetus is significantly defective or the mother’s health is at significant risk.
      
      But this is an issue for a woman alone to decide. You should be free to say what you like, but we can’t allow men to interfere in the decisions we make.
      
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      May 20, 2019 1:30pm
BrownSnake

When a Captain is Cooking in the Forest can anyone hear him Cook?
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May 20, 2019 9:29am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Why go into the forest when you can make a hangi down at the shore away from tree roots?
  
  https://nzhistory.govt.nz/ten-crew-of-cooks-ship-em-adventure-em-killed-and-eaten
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:12am
  - Tall Man
    
    Well that’s an unfortunate fact that may alarm the natives.
    
    Expect it to be heavily redacted shortly.
    
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    May 20, 2019 1:01pm
    - BrownSnake
      
      Confucius says it is not auspicious to assume which Captain I am referring to which cook or cook book and which Forest. There are many paths up the mountain.
      
      “Be like the cliff against which the waves continually break; but it stands firm and tames the fury of the water around it.”
      
      ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
      
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      May 21, 2019 12:14am
Hugh Pavletich

… NEW ZEALAND NATURAL RISKS: Explaining aspects of what has been blindingly obvious all along …

Insurance in New Zealand is changing | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/112836497/insurance-in-new-zealand-is-changing

Insurance expert’s warning to New Zealand homeowners – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12232414

Google NewcZealand Search ‘Melissa Heath Insurance’ …

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=melissa+heath+insurance&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy8pLbw6jiAhWSfCsKHefqCNUQ_AUICSgA&biw=451&bih=400&dpr=2.08
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It may be a good idea to JUST ALLOW affordable new housing to be built on good ground … refer … http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
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May 20, 2019 9:34am
- Paulus
  
  Global Warming is now the principle insurance risk – no longer being the risk of Earthquake or Fire.
  Hence new underwriting criteria and the more we are told about Global Warming the higher the considered risk factor and premiums.
  Can only continue.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:54am
- Cobolt24
  
  Lack of sales in Christchurch adds to KiwiBuild pressure
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  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/389576/lack-of-sales-in-christchurch-adds-to-kiwibuild-pressure
  
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  May 20, 2019 12:09pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Insurers warn apartment owners risk being left high and dry in the event of a quake, as anecdotes of cash-strapped body corporates ditching their cover emerge … Interest Co NZ
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/insurance/99744/insurers-warn-apartment-owners-risk-being-left-high-and-dry-event-quake-anecdotes
    
    Stories are emerging of body corporates watering down or completely scrapping their earthquake insurance cover in response to sky-rocketing premiums. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    May 20, 2019 3:42pm
Tony Stuart

Guy Williams on Twitter yesterday:

Guy Williams @guywilliamsguy

Whenever I feel bad about the state of New Zealand or Nz politics I’m always comforted knowing that at least we’re not Australia. It’s not really a joke, Australia is fucked.

https://twitter.com/guywilliamsguy/status/1129892980607766528

Ironically, Williams is currently doing shows in Australia, and presumably is expecting “fucked” Australians to shell out money to listen to his brand of “comedy”.

But to paraphrase his tweet, whenever I’m feeling bad about anything, I’m always comforted knowing I’m not Guy Williams!
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May 20, 2019 9:47am
- John Warren
  
  I’ve listened to Guy Williams on RNZ’s The Panel. I don’t believe the dolt would even be able to tie his own shoelaces. He’d sit down to urinate. Then the prurient part of me wonders how a relationship between such a blithering, babbling idiot and a cunning, conniving, conceited, haughty, self-promoting gorgon like Golly works.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:23am
- srylands
  
  So people actually pay money to see this guy?
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:25am
  - Alien
    
    Chances are they go along not even knowing who it is. Strangely enough most of these comedians that end up on tv3 are useless at comedy
    
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    May 20, 2019 11:23am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      ‘The Project’?
      
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      May 20, 2019 6:29pm
kevn

@Tony… Aren’t we lucky not to have this (non-funny) williams on TV very often.
Goodness knows what he does, maybe tweets a lot?
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May 20, 2019 9:55am
- sooty
  
  Must be supported by his wife!
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:08am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    De facto?
    
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    May 20, 2019 6:29pm
  - Tall Man
    
    You mean us don’t you?
    
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    May 20, 2019 6:34pm
Nukuleka

Just as an aside. Has anyone noticed that the masthead logo of the UK DAILY EXPRESS newspaper is a CRUSADER? Anyone heard if there is a crusade in the UK to get them to remove their logo because it is deemed to be offensive?

No. I thought not.
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May 20, 2019 10:02am
- RW Capitalist
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:49am
- Fletch
  
  It was also pointed out in the news how the Crusaders team isn’t doing very well at the moment. I wonder if that has anything to do with the emasculation of their name with the removal of their knights and horses display etc…
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:31am
  - Jack5
    
    Crusaders not doing well, because they had a draw? They still lead the competition, and I believe they have lost only four games in three seasons.
    
    Still, the Lefties and friends target them over their name.
    
    Yet there are more than 100 companies in New Zealand with “Crusader” in their name. Canterbury also has a Saracens rugby club (the name of a anti-Crusader army).
    
    The name change move is driven by sports reporters, especially in Auckland, and polls show the fans want the “Crusaders” name to stay.
    
    If a change is forced, may the rugby authorities face an even bigger backlash than that facing Australian rugby over the Folau witch-hunt.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:12pm
    - Prince
      
      I support a name change. Also think Crusaders, and Canterbury should be split in two, North and South, similar to what they did to Auckland when they were dominant.
      Let’s face it, its not fair that they win everything.
      
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      May 20, 2019 12:37pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Driven by Raelene Castle and Alan Joyce…. more of a “Bitch” hunt I think.
      
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      May 20, 2019 12:55pm
- Paulus
  
  Many years ago my local London amateur Rugby club was called, and still is, Saracens.
  Boo!
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:34pm
Swifty

If a new ‘Christian’ party is set up in New Zealand and begins to poll in the 3, 4, 5% range – I wonder what will happen with the calls we’ve heard from the left for some time, most notably from Angry and Golriz etc but many others, that the election threshold be lowered from 5% to 4%?
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May 20, 2019 10:15am
- John Warren
  
  It’d vapourise like morning mist. But you already knew that.
  
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  May 20, 2019 10:24am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Good point.
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:01am
Straight arrow

Observations on Australian Election result.
I will make an assumption that most voters (not all) decide on what is best for themselves (and family and local community), and then what is “best” for society overall. So if they are doing okay, then secondary (non-direct) issues such as climate change, come into play.

In most urban centres promoting anti-climate change policy is a secondary consideration, while in parts of Queensland, it was a primary concern (loss of potential and actual jobs, lower wages) Hence the big swings towards Coalition in that State. Even in urban areas, Labor failed to re-assure voters concerned about climate change (secondary concern) that the voter would not have huge power bills (primary concern).

For a minority of voters, what may be seen as secondary issues for most voters (climate change, freedom of speech, religious freedom, gender issues) are indeed the primary decider. Take gender identity for instance. Labor was pushing a National Gender Centre, a policy designed for a very small percent of children, but could impact negatively on the vast majority of parents that don’t have gender-confused children. Very popular policy (and maybe primary concern) for a very small number of voters, a turn-off for a large number of voters.

In short, Labor pushed multiple marginal secondary issues, while Coalition pushed primary concerns (the economy).
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May 20, 2019 10:21am
- Tall Man
  
  I think you will find that many Queenslanders have seen through the climate change bullshit after all, they have seen the weather cycles a little more closely than most Australians.
  
  Labor promised taxes, Nat/Libs promised more of the same, no contest really.
  
  Remember labour did not win in NZ. Their policies garnered 37% support. Watermelon policies got 7% support.
  
  “what’s in it for wynston” promised immigration lowered to 10,000 annually and the total removal of the maori seats. They are hardly left wing policies so basically the centre right won but a certain greedy drunk dropped all his platform policies to get more in his pocket.
  
  2020 will see “what’s in it for wynston” removed from the political spectrum and any party that makes “global warming” a major plank of their election campaign will be voted out of existence.
  
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  May 20, 2019 12:44pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Watermelon policies got 76.3% support.
    
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    May 20, 2019 1:28pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Damn, worse than I thought. Really depressed now 🙁
      
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      May 20, 2019 6:33pm
iMP

Average Christian party vote since 1996-2014 is 3.918% despite Capill or Craig. And Simo is gonna ignore that? Sheesh. Cindy2 with Winston garnish here we come.
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May 20, 2019 10:56am
- septic skeptic
  
  The last thing we need is some new minor party kingmaker holding the country to ransom on the basis of some supposed revelations from God a couple of thousand years ago.
  We should just concentrate on rinsing NZF, and maybe the greens.
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:12am
  - Tall Man
    
    Exactly.
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:37pm
srylands

This is hilarious.

“The [Labor] party’s deputy leader, Tanya Plibersek, suggested the problem was the tactical campaign plan rather than the policy platform.

“Our policy agenda, it was big, it was bold,” Ms Plibersek said.

“But I think perhaps we didn’t have enough time to explain all of the benefits of it to the people who would benefit.”

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-election-2019/labor-lost-on-a-crusade-for-fairness-what-does-that-say-about-us-20190519-p51p17.html

Sure. Labor only lost because voters did not understand.
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May 20, 2019 11:05am
- Alien
  
  Well experience in no shows us not even labour nz understand their own policies, so how can the public
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:37am
- kevn
  
  @sry…. The sensible voters ‘read between the lines’ and discerned fact from fiction/lies.
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:52am
  - Tall Man
    
    And then saw it on the telly……..
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:37pm
- Straight arrow
  
  Labor failed to realize that identity politics is sometimes a two-sided coin. While some Labor policies would benefit some, the (perceived) consequences for the majority could be significantly negative.
  Aboriginal “partnership” rights enshrined in law would make little difference to the average aborigine, but could undermine property rights and costs for the vast majority of land owners. Same with other “fairness” policies, which created the opposite.
  
  It was a failure to explain (because they couldn’t) how Labor policies wouldn’t harm the average voter that hit them.
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:23pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Long may the left continue to respond to voter rejection by doubling down on the stupidity that lead to the voter rejection
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:33pm
MCos

Over in the UK a tv programme has just been abruptly cancelled after one of the participants committed suicide. He had be humiliated beyond breaking point for the entertainment of the masses.
How this bloke ever agreed to be on this show beats me, but I’m thinking there was some sort of desperation involved.
There are other shows where the participants are obviously willing volunteers such as Dancing With the Stars, Bachelor where their is a potential for people to be thrown to the wolves eg David Seymour.
Then there are reality Cop shows, Border Patrol, which are propaganda for law enforcement.
One such show is Cops. On the radio the other day a typical scenario from one episode was played whereby some guys in a car were stopped. Suspicious powder was tested on the roadside and because a sample turned blue it was deemed to be crack cocaine. The guys were arrested and taken away in handcuffs. End of story.
Except the powder wasn’t drugs.
Those tests, it seems, are only 50% accurate.
Oh dear.

This raises some questions
1 – Does that have any relevance to the Border Security shows we see on tv? Are only the success stories shown to us?
2 – Does that have any relevance to road side drug sobriety tests being called for in NZ?
3 – Was the radio programme relevant to these other contexts?
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May 20, 2019 11:06am
- Tall Man
  
  And 4- Who shot JFK?
  
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  May 20, 2019 12:35pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Lee Harvey Oswald.Nobody else.
    
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    May 20, 2019 1:33pm
    - sooty
      
      Did they land on the moon?
      
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      May 20, 2019 2:03pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I can confirm that neither JFK nor Lee Harvey Oswald landed on the moon.
        
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        May 20, 2019 2:39pm
      - Alien
        
        Of course, where do you think Fonterra get their cheese.
        
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        May 20, 2019 3:04pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Lefties like you mikey would always say that….
        
        You’re just trying to hide the truth about how the Russians funded Lee Harvey and trained him to shoot really well in their secret base on the “Dark Side of the Moon” which we all know was a front for the commies infiltrating the UK and the USA through the music of Pink Floyd.
        
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        May 20, 2019 6:31pm
    - The King
      
      Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
      
      Jack Rubenstein.
      
      Why did he do it?
      
      So they wouldn’t blame jews for killing JFK < True story.
      
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      May 20, 2019 3:42pm
Maggie Pie

A twitter follower from California retweets 🙂

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6w2mXdXsAA8r3E?format=jpg&name=small
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May 20, 2019 11:11am
- Alien
  
  Hmmm, is it me or does the Colonel look a bit like Rolf Harris there
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:34am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I just showed this to my partner and he said: “strewth, squeeze me koalas juice bruce – he’s right!”
    
    https://i.chzbgr.com/full/2595791616/h2BEC54A8/
    
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    May 20, 2019 12:31pm
    - Alien
      
      Well, did you?
      
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      May 20, 2019 7:07pm
Alien

Keep an eye on this story if you own a Huawei product and it is true take it back to the place of purchase and under the cga get a refund as it won’t be getting security android updates

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12232466

Huawei’s consumer business could be badly hit if a report about a Google move to cut it off from Android – the software that runs its phones – is correct.

Google has suspended business with Huawei that requires the transfer of hardware and software products except those covered by open source licences, according to a Reuters report quoting an anonymous source.
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May 20, 2019 11:19am
- Inandout
  
  Glad I opted for a Samsung instead of Huawee.
  
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  May 20, 2019 2:06pm
  - Alien
    
    I think they are getting just as bad, just saw our Samsung has not had any security updates in five months, complained and they said there were none, looked overseas and their has been one every month. Useless
    
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    May 20, 2019 5:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Celia Wade-Brown’s legacy to her suburb
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/112840327/island-bay-cycleway-judicial-review-makes-it-to-court

Thanks for nothing.
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May 20, 2019 11:30am
- srylands
  
  The only solution is to dismantle the cycleway. It has turned a previously wide, safe road into a dangerous monstrosity.
  
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  May 20, 2019 11:54am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Does that mad woman still live in Island Bay?
  If so I bet she never shows her face in public.
  
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  May 20, 2019 2:37pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    No, she also had a place over in the Wairarapa.
    She decamped over to there to farm carbon.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/110364419/former-wellington-mayor-celia-wadebrown-farms-trees-for-carbon-credits
    
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    May 20, 2019 3:19pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    I believe that as soon as her cycleway was installed she decamped to Oriental Bay. Pop out there on rubbish day, it’s quite a laugh watching the gridlock caused by robotic arms not reaching the bins. You’d also think that the genius who painted the bus stops would have measured like, an actual bus, rather than having the back end hanging out blocking traffic.
    
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    May 20, 2019 3:39pm
Alien

$7.7 million being spent on bugger all. Oooo an upgraded website and mobile app for our pensioners. How about either free doctors for pensioners or cheaper power, something that would actually matter to them

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/112836958/prebudget-announcement-77m-for-supergold-card-digital-literacy-training

The Government has set aside $7.7 million for seniors in its Wellbeing Budget, which will see an ‘upgrade’ of the SuperGold Card, digital literacy training, and provide for ACC changes.
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May 20, 2019 12:11pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  My partners mum just tweeted: “Whoopty f ~ ~ ing doo!”
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:33pm
  - sooty
    
    No, we have to go the normal Labour way!
    Hire more people, were we should be sacking a few!
    
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    May 20, 2019 2:00pm
  - Alien
    
    She won’t be the only one.
    
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    May 20, 2019 5:26pm
- Piniwi
  
  Bugger A that means hose letters from Tracy Martin in the MSD newsletters will get even longer. They only started to flow regularly after she was elevated to Minister. They seem to get a makeover every other month as they as they move further dark cyber places. But to blow almost $8 million might prompt many to eventually show just how they feel about such garbage.
  
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  May 20, 2019 3:52pm
  - Alien
    
    Just imagine how much they spend sending those letters out, and now everyone with an ird number is getting a letter too. Nz govt keeping nz post open because no one else is
    
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    May 20, 2019 5:25pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Yaay, Peters starting his electioneering early in a bid to win back all the oldies who voted for him last time but who have had second thoughts since.
  Might work too.
  Got to hand it to him, he is a shameless manipulator of the vulnerable.
  He’s overdoing the undermining of Bridges at every turn though – that’s getting boring.
  
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  May 20, 2019 4:55pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The offer is all Tracey Martin whinery. The OAP’s needing help with computers have classes available already.
    Winston will never recover.
    
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    May 20, 2019 6:49pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  But then Winston couldn’t claim diddly. the COL must be coming under pressure.
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:42pm
Cobolt24

Lack of sales in Christchurch adds to KiwiBuild pressure
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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/389576/lack-of-sales-in-christchurch-adds-to-kiwibuild-pressure
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May 20, 2019 12:12pm
- srylands
  
  Unlike Wellington and Auckland, Christchurch has affordable homes – well by New Zealand standards. So I am not surprised there is little interest.
  
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  May 20, 2019 3:12pm
- septic skeptic
  
  This is fucking scandalous! They sold this policy as building additional homes at entry level or lower prices. Not bailing out developers. It’s obvious now that Kiwibuild is total bullshit. It’s not doing a damn thing for new home buyers or property prices. Just mopping up the dross where developers got it wrong.
  
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  May 20, 2019 4:47pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Prices ares still falling–not a good time to be buying.
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:50pm
Maggie Pie

So, this goverment can suddenly find $320 million dollars to fight ‘sexual violence’ – but cant find anything more for our Teachers!!
I mean you have to wonder what they’ve got against foreplay anyway?
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May 20, 2019 12:13pm
- John Warren
  
  The PM grew up a Mormon. That’d give you one clue. []
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:18pm
  - barnacle bill
    
    Oh Hell, another Adonis I see.
    
    Please put up your photo for all to see , warts and all.
    
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    May 20, 2019 2:01pm
    - John Warren
      
      Had all the warts removed last week, Bill. But I’ll fish out an old pic if you promise to show us your barnacles.
      
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      May 20, 2019 5:49pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Nice one. Got any more rape jokes?
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:20pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You never been spreadeagled nude and cuffed face down on a Four-Poster and had your botty fliked with a silk riding crop then mike? My partner adores it –
    i only stop when he says the password.
    
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    May 20, 2019 3:41pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Too much information.
      
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      May 20, 2019 4:27pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Oh well, you know what they say – “One mans meat…
        
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        May 20, 2019 5:39pm
    - Inandout
      
      Damn, what was that bloody password again?
      
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      May 20, 2019 5:00pm
    - John Warren
      
      Hey! How come I got censored and you didn’t? I simply used the word “eunuch” in a sentence. OK, I mentioned the PM’s teeth in the same sentence…
      
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      May 20, 2019 5:44pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Safe word? Silk riding crop? Better a tickle with leather. lol
      
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      May 20, 2019 6:46pm
    - Alien
      
      But how does that work when you can’t remember the password
      
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      May 20, 2019 7:33pm
- Overworked
  
  Teachers need external help in controlling difficult children. They also need to stop the idiotic policy of allowing parents direct email access to teachers.
  
  What they need above all is merit pay, just like most of the rest of the country. As long as you suppress income inequality in the profession, good teachers must subsidise the others.
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:34pm
slightlyrighty

I have a question.

Are the NZ MSM operating as a propaganda arm of this government?

After weeks of our media parroting the Australian media and predicting a Labor win, we had the opposite happen.

Then the lead story on both major networks that evening was the launch of the Domestic Violence package.
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May 20, 2019 1:05pm
- Alien
  
  Short answer, yes
  
  Long answer, yeeeessss
  
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  May 20, 2019 1:47pm
- John Warren
  
  They were very brief in their accounts of the Aussie upset.
  
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  May 20, 2019 2:11pm
  - Alien
    
    Yes, and no, whoopsie, we were wrong calling it for labor on the exiting polls, we stuffed up, we apologise. And btw, maybe our own polling is shit too
    
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    May 20, 2019 2:56pm
  - MrLovebucket
    
    The only upset about the result is the attitude of the weak minded lefty media sulking because they didn’t get their way.
    
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    May 20, 2019 3:02pm
- Rich Prick
  
  They’re in denial with six stages to go.
  
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  May 20, 2019 2:51pm
Alien

Stuff have an article up that wrongly states

“There are no laws in New Zealand that say Muslims, for example, are protected from expressions of hate directed at them nor, for that matter, people with disabilities or those who identify as LBGTQI.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/112815477/hole-in-our-antidiscrimination-laws-must-be-plugged

Now I don’t believe our laws need to stipulate such a thing for muslims as our human rights protects religious freedom, it protects those with disabilities and those of the gay community.

Perhaps someone can point how under which laws violence and hatred against people no matter what their gender, race, religion, sexuality, disability is legal. It’s not, and our laws already cover all this.
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May 20, 2019 2:44pm
- rangitoto
  
  Where is the law protecting pastafarians?
  
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  May 20, 2019 3:28pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Violence is illegal. Hatred is not. People express hatred of others all the time. I hate the ctrl-left people trying to undermine our right to free speech. We should defend everyone’s right to keep expressing hatred of others if they wish to do so.
  
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  May 20, 2019 3:34pm
- The King
  
  Imagine being so hated you need laws to protect you.
  
  Big think.
  
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  May 20, 2019 3:47pm
  - Alien
    
    A green mp?
    
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    May 20, 2019 7:32pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  LBGT
  
  Liquor, Bacon, Guns and Tits. Bugger the QI
  
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  May 20, 2019 9:36pm
Komata

Alien@1444

Except that GG (despite being supposedly an apostate), wants to make very, very sure that, as it evidently isn’t robust enough to take criticism, islam is protected at all costs.

It ws only a matter of time ebfore this appeared in NZ, and by following that line that she is merely copying similar actions by other politicians overseas and is yet another example of the ‘Do as I say, not as I do’ philosophy for which she is becoming well-known.

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May 20, 2019 3:25pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Except that GG (despite being supposedly an apostate)
  
  Golriz Ghahraman has made it very clear that she is not and never has been affiliated with any religion.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88498722/green-lawyer-hopes-to-be-first-refugee-to-win-a-seat-in-parliament
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golriz_Ghahraman
  
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  May 20, 2019 3:46pm
  - Komata
    
    Maggie @ 1536
    
    Thank you, yet perhaps significantly she notes that ‘On some days she is an agnostic, on others an atheist’ although her anti-Trump comments would not seem to support that position.
    
    Given her hometown was a relgiously-important one to shia muslims, I would suggest that it might be a case of ‘You can take the girl out of the town, but you can’t take her out of the religion’, and that the underlying bias remains, hence her actions in regard to ‘protecting’ the religion.
    
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    May 20, 2019 4:12pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      No, Komata,
      Her parents left Iran because they were opposed to religious strictures. Her mother refused to sit religious exams….
      Her parents —“basically socialists” she says, a term she now identifies with—were both active participants in the Iranian revolution, which started life as a grand uprising.
      https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/zm9gn8/biography-as-a-battleground-what-it-means-to-be-new-zealands-first-refugee-mp
      
      It’s as silly as calling me a Christian because a Great Uncle was a Presbyterian Minister.
      
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      May 20, 2019 4:45pm
      - Komata
        
        Maggie@1645
        
        Thank you Maggie, but if that was the case, why does she seem intent on getting ‘special treatment’ aand additonal ‘protection’ for islam?
        
        It seems to contradict what you have said; unless, once again, her ‘facts’ have been ‘wilfully-distorted’?
        
        Again, thanks.
        
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        May 20, 2019 6:41pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Komata
        
        Just a theory….
        I think the focus should be on why she is in the Greens…She has no environmental background as far as I can see…
        hence she is one of the social(ist) greens… dedicated to overturning the Capitalist /democratic way of Life.
        
        Any Oppressed group can be used/manipulated to achieve the means of a political Group.,,,,so backing a religious group helps her extend her reach into one area of identity politics.
        
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        May 20, 2019 9:47pm
  - Jules99
    
    To be honest, under Islamic law she would be considered apostate, which carries a sentence of death.
    
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    May 20, 2019 4:16pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Maybe she is appeasing?
      
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      May 20, 2019 6:50pm
- Alien
  
  I’m not sure you’re allowed to talk about her, she’ll cry to the media you’ve hurt her feelings
  
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  May 20, 2019 5:23pm
Jack5

Immigration rate still growing, despite all the bullshit talk from Labour and NZ First.

The rate of population increase for the March year was up nearly 11 per cent, driven by big numbers from China.

There’s a good comment at interest.co.nz: “We are rapidly turning the lifeboat into the Titanic.”

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/99674/strong-growth-migration-china-pushes-total-migration-gain-109-year-march
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May 20, 2019 3:36pm
- Komata
  
  Jack5@1536
  
  The ‘Colonisation’ process is in plain sight, but the pollies deliberately choose not to see it, deeming our trade relationship too valuable to upset.
  
  Mandarin lessons, anyone? A few years from now they might be useful when communicating with our new masters…
  
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  May 20, 2019 4:21pm
  - secondcumming
    
    But I wonder how many of the new arrivals from China were actually carpenters, drain layers etc, or other trades the country desperately needs? 😎
    
    Although by all accounts luxury car dealers have had another great year…..so not all bad.
    
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    May 20, 2019 4:45pm
kevn

whinney trying to get relevant again with the 7.7 mil GoldCard ‘upgrade’ (not) and banging on about super payments.
Whatever gives him airtime and oxygen.
aka Button pushing.
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May 20, 2019 3:47pm
Piniwi

But J few believe Tarrant is not aware of how well the PM is carrying out his every wish over and above his wildest dreams. Lets not forget she got an advance copy of his manifesto then took until the following Tuesday to issue the edict of “he who will not be named”. Slow learner or needing all those photo ops ahead of all else? As we have seen by the results timing is everything.
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May 20, 2019 3:58pm
Prince

NZ Journalism – how cheap can it be to run ?
1) Hire a recent grad from polytech. (Note: must be photopenic, pref female, accept low salary)
2) Call Govt each Monday for this weeks schedule. (Where, when, who, how much)
3) Turn up on time, photo op for various ministers, PM etc.
4) Reprint Govt material, press release, charts, stats.
5) File by 3pm, home by 4pm or back to celebration drinkees, networking for press sec job.
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May 20, 2019 5:16pm
Alien

Interesting, but our summers have not been that warm for a few years now, we get the occasional few day heat wave, but for the most part I still notice people with their fires going in summer, so I wonder when this will even be used. Just more fear mongering from the govt and greens

“The potential dangers of climate change are at the heart of proposed new weather forecasts MetService has been consulting confidentially about with government departments.

Two of the proposals revealed in a government document are for “national temperature warnings” and “national coastal inundation forecasts”. Replacement weather radar units for several parts of the country and new radars for “southern North Island, northern South Island and inland Otago” are also planned.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/112785790/government-report-reveals-metservice-considering-new-hot-weather-warnings
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May 20, 2019 5:20pm
- MCos
  
  Where do you live?
  Aberdeen?
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:16pm
Fletch

An author and producer tweets this week about his being a man and the supposedly accepted wisdom that men aren’t allowed to have an opinion about abortion.

Producer Adam Trahan was silent for years about the abortion that he says changed his life — but one tweet sent him “over the edge” Thursday, and he hasn’t looked back since.

“I’d been getting increasingly frustrated by the preponderance of this ‘shout your abortion/no uterus, no say’ nonsense, and Liz Plank’s tweet sent me over the edge,” Trahan told The Daily Caller via email.

Plank, an author and Vox Media host, had tweeted about how men benefit from abortion and asked them to be more open about that.

Trahan responded to Plank by saying that his own experience stood out in stark contrast to her claim.

I am living proof that the exact opposite is true. Not a day goes by where I do not feel abject shame and guilt for being party to something of which I was given zero choice.
And you are living proof that there is zero difference between fame and infamy. https://t.co/x3gRRa6xA8
— Adam Trahan (@AdamTrahan) May 16, 2019

Trahan filled The Caller in on some of the details of the story he’d “only recently divulged only a few days prior (and for the first time to anyone ever),” saying that he had been “an unwilling party” to the abortion of his own child about five years ago, when his girlfriend of two years chose to terminate her pregnancy without his input.

“That single instance is what made me staunchly pro-life,” he added, admitting that before he moved from Los Angeles to Nashville, he feared being honest about that. “In California, if I were to profess any form of acceptance toward the pro-life movement, I wouldn’t have just been shunned, I’d have been actively destroyed.”

Trahan said that he went with his then-girlfriend to the clinic, believing at the time that his job was to support her and keep his mouth shut. “That was what had been drilled into my head since adolescence due to my San Francisco, Calif., upbringing. “‘You’re the man, you have no say, you DID this to her,’” he explained.

But being in that clinic, feeling helpless to speak his mind, left Trahan forever changed.

“That single moment that I remember so vividly, and her blase attitude afterward changed me forever,” he said. “Not a single day goes by that I don’t think about that and feel a tremendous, stagnating guilt, and I just felt the need to share to both get it off my chest, and to maybe see if I wasn’t alone. It’s truly the most lonely feeling in the world, when you feel like you can’t tell anyone, because, again, I’m the male. Who cares what I think? It’s not ‘my body.’”

MORE – https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/18/exclusive-producer-adam-trahan-abortion-changed-me-forever/
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May 20, 2019 5:22pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  He can have an opinion – he just doesn’t get to tell a woman how she should take care of her own body.
  
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  May 20, 2019 7:20pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Hmm, typical pro infanticide argument, its all about the “Woman’s Body” and nothing about the murdered child.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:33pm
  - MrTips
    
    That’s funny. The uterus is usually left in a woman during induced abortion, so remind us which part of “her body” it is then?
    
    And if you seriously think the child is “part of a woman’s body” then you are biologically ignorant.
    
    And if the woman requires the man to ask her for consent to have sex, and then tells him to bugger off in making the abortion decision like happened to Trajan, well that’s just sexist power crap.
    
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    May 20, 2019 9:40pm
Jack5

Looks like Folau is taking Rugby Australia to court:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/folau-contract-torn-up-as-appeal-window-closes-20190520-p51pag.html
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May 20, 2019 5:33pm
- MCos
  
  Why is he taking them to court?
  They gave him the flick & he is not appealing the decision.
  
  Maybe he wants their money?
  Oh dear.
  A fundamental Christian should have no need for riches, flash cars and fancy suits.
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:28pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Perhaps Folau doesn’t wish to enter the kingdom of god.
    Matthew 19: 23-26
    
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    May 20, 2019 7:18pm
    - nasska
      
      Most Xtians I’ve met work on the theory that if they can’t take it with them they’re not going!
      
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      May 20, 2019 7:39pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Why is he taking them to court?
    
    Because his employer treated him appallingly. More power to him.
    
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    May 20, 2019 7:43pm
    - Jack5
      
      Not much sympathy for Christians these days, Krazykiwi.
      
      If Folau were of Sonny Bill Williams’ Muslim faith, the media would be fighting hard on his side.
      
      They want free speech when Christianity is the target, but “hate speech” censorship when the target is another religion, unnamed, but of course, Islam.
      
      Notice how the “hate speech” control freaks extend their argument to encompass disabled people as targets.
      
      Who ridicules disabled people? The only humour I’ve heard about them came from a disabled stand-up comedian.
      
      Surprisingly, in Stuff newspapers today, a writer, of American origin, supports the push for hate-speech controls. No wonder the print media is on its last legs.
      
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      May 20, 2019 9:26pm
- sooty
  
  So he should, bigetted racism!
  He will get paid out his full contract, plus damages!
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:38pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Agreed, and Australia will lose their rugby games, how ridiculous.
    
    I hope the media are happy. He should sue them too for conflating one line from many. On and On and On they went.
    
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    May 20, 2019 6:56pm
- Alien
  
  This is what I found interesting, rumours it was a way out of rugby for him
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12232342
  
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  May 20, 2019 7:04pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Scientology providing literacy resources to Samoan Schools.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/389630/samoan-pm-defends-use-of-scientology-resources-for-schools
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May 20, 2019 6:05pm
- MCos
  
  I live just down the road from Mangere Town Centre, which is a pretty scruffy except for a plethora of churches every way you look.
  
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  May 20, 2019 6:46pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Who on Earth writes the Headlines for Newshub Weather?
Here’s what has been put up in the last 24 hours or so:
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/05/weather-truly-massive-9000km-wide-anticyclone-heading-for-new-zealand.html

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/05/weather-dangerous-8m-waves-slam-new-zealand.html

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/05/weather-cold-snap-brings-9c-temperatures-to-new-zealand.html

(Another brilliant day in Gizzy)
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May 20, 2019 7:19pm
- Alien
  
  Saw the waves one and thought oh no it’s going to wash no away, also thought weren’t there larger waves in the last storm. The media are just creators of fear porn
  
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  May 20, 2019 7:30pm
krazykiwi

Be very afraid:

A leaked [UK] Labour party document has revealed plans for a swift and sweeping renationalisation of the country’s £62bn energy networks at a price decided by Parliament.

The blueprint, seen by the Telegraph, lays bare for the first time Mr Corbyn’s plan to bring all energy network companies under public ownership “immediately” following a Labour election win.

Nationalisation as a price decided by parliament? No leader with an IQ above room temperature would dare to suggest this even in jest. And to think, Labour is a the highest polling party in the UK.
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May 20, 2019 7:39pm
- Alien
  
  Reminds me of Winston
  
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  May 20, 2019 8:26pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

We had a good little democracy in NZ until all the media (went) left.
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