General Debate 24 April 2019

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Don the Kiwi

‘Mornin’
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April 24, 2019 8:04am
JibberJabber

New Olympic sport?
Gotta be better than syncro swimming…
https://www.rt.com/sport/457325-underwater-pole-dancing-sport/
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April 24, 2019 8:10am
Im Right

Question: Why are the (far) left still upset about CGT U-turn, they say that MMP is great and democratic but when it works (as it’s supposed to) they can’t reason with it. It’s not rocket science when you don’t have the numbers to pass it then it’s a dead duck. Methinks the left want their cake and eat it too, if it’s a law they don’t like/want and hasn’t the numbers to pass into law then MMP is working fine, vice versa MMP is wrong..,.go figure!
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April 24, 2019 8:13am
- alien
  
  My take from listening to some people is they expected cgt would pass, and that money would be passed on to them. It’s kinda like pike mine, I’ve seen signs around saying the pike 29 are coming home, ah no, they aren’t even going that far in. I think labour are expects at letting people make things up about their policies and never explaining the facts of them
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:20am
- Surely Knott
  
  Because they still believe they’ll get their cake (well your cake technically). Soper already mooting the idea that Aussie have 47% tax on over $188k as does Britain.
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:34am
- Happychappy
  
  Well you have to look at the JLR saga to to see the blatant attacks on Simon Bridges instigated by the media for their masters. Then the nasty posts on Chris Bishop involving young females by Labour so they could lesson the shock on the sexual assault at the Young Labour Summer Camp. And you can keep going back to the Darren Hughes saga again covered up by Labour , so it is alright for Labour to hide the truth when National take them to task it’s all blatant lies and it’s all about what they want for themselves. How can a Government play the blame game on others whether it is policy or abuse when their history is appalling and full of cover ups.
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:38am
  - Tall Man
    
    Because we have a complicit media and few places where the truth is reported.
    
    https://mumbrella.com.au/outsiders-loses-another-host-as-sky-news-dumps-ross-cameron-after-racist-comments-550233
    
    The “Outsiders”, or what’s left of them, would have a field day here but where are our satirists in NZ.
    
    Where are the new “McPhail and Gatsby”……….
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztv7M4QMiAw
    
    and…
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCG9i9Eb_qs
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:15am
    - Lance
      
      Any satire of a leftist or leftist actions is hate speech now, not to mention that person is then labelled racist and an (insert non traditional group here)-phobe.
      
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      April 24, 2019 9:47am
    - Tall Man
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9_YJS7rFDM
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIedNhGqWF0
      
      Nothing changes really does it?
      
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      April 24, 2019 1:24pm
  - freethinker
    
    Still waiting for North Shore District to answer my e-mail for info on the Labour Sex Camp case. I am reliably informed that Guthrie Bowron have delivered a truck load of Whitwash to the court so a reply is not far away.Sarc
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:39am
    - namron
      
      Thanks freethinker.
      Impossible not to believe there are attempts being made to BURY this trial.
      Not hard to guess who might be behind the burying either.
      My guess couldn’t be this “open, transparent” govt !!
      
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      April 24, 2019 10:35am
- ducklin71
  
  Same logic as the Dims wanting to cancel the Electoral College in the States. If it doesn’t work in their favour, it must be changed to work IN their favour. I bet most Labour and Green supporters voted in favour of keeping MMP during the referendum a few years back. Sleep in your bed suckers.
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:28am
- oldgolfer
  
  Yes. Heard some tossers on RNZ moaning about CGT not making it, and one said there were far too many people with far too much money and it wasn’t fair.
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:45am
Monique Watson

Sanity is precarious folks. In this day and age.

Was just discussing our family Easter Sunday with a colleague. I talk faster than the average Californian and unfortunately ran the phrase: “Easter Egg Hunts”, together too rapidly for her and got a searching look and she politely ducked outta the conversation.
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April 24, 2019 8:13am
- hullkiwi
  
  A kiwi twang with a developing Californian accent, I couldn’t imagine what could possibly be misunderstood?
  
  As Homer would say “dohhhhhj!”
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:13am
Maggie Pie

My partners mun re-tweets:

‘Man with worlds largest hands does missionary work in uganda’
https://twitter.com/historyluvrsclub/status/1120261449606225920
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April 24, 2019 8:14am
- All_on_Red
  
  Not funny
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:33am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well we all thort it was hilarious! 🙂
    
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    April 24, 2019 8:36am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I’ll be there are plenty of other websites picturing starvation victims for you to chortle at.
      
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      April 24, 2019 9:10am
      - Tall Man
        
        https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photography-newborn-baby-hand-image28892277
        
        https://www.pinterest.nz/pin/188588303120799918/?lp=true
        
        Is that better mikey…..
        
        Notice the original photo did not show the child so was carefully staged to elicit angst which mikey clearly wants you to develope.
        
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        April 24, 2019 10:15am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Photo was taken around 1990, the poverty rate has improved since then. Uganda has been ruled by the same person (Yoweri Museveni) since around 1979, and he has been implicated at multiple crimes against humanity including mass murders and child slavery. It appears that his son will most probably be his successor.
        
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        April 24, 2019 10:38am
    - auckwood
      
      Im with you Maggie!
      
      Lighten up people!
      
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      April 24, 2019 9:29am
hullkiwi

According to I L-G, the creation of a new class of Visa for those on temporary or visitor visas caught up in the 15th March shootings is a measured response and shows the government caring for the victims.

The response to this is one word, “B****H*T”. This is nothing more than exercise in crass vote buying. Providing people with an opportunity to apply for a Visa over a 2 year period, who is going to support these people? John and Joanne Taxpayer? This is cynical in the extreme.

Will JA be there to hand out the first new residency visas with a hug and cuddle?
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April 24, 2019 8:15am
- alien
  
  but buried after that was the government is allowing the deported Indian students back into nz
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:28am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yes, I saw that. What is sickening about the Indian student story was that if these students had applied with truthful applications, they would have failed the Visa application process and not been allowed into NZ in the first place.
    
    Sadly, the Visa system is a series of rorts, we saw it in London when applying for my wife’s residency Visa and you can see it regularly on immigrant Facebook pages with postings by people expecting to get to NZ on tourist visas, get jobs and then bring the family.
    
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    April 24, 2019 8:38am
  - John Warren
    
    Too many bloody Indians getting into the country these days. If that makes it past the KB mods I will expect a knock on the door from Andrew Little, which will then provide me with the opportunity to tell him exactly what I think of him. If you’re going down, go down in flames, I say.
    
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    April 24, 2019 8:59am
    - Tall Man
      
      However, without wanting to appear facetious, with our happy beneficiaries happy as they are, who would pump your petrol and sell you your liquor without them?
      
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      April 24, 2019 9:07am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Tall Man, dont go there. We would have a never ending list of recent immigrants and families running franchise businesses.
        
        And the question always begs, what were the grounds for family xxx Visa application to run a franchise foodbar/cafe/coffee shop/petrol station/taxi in a suburb near you?
        
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        April 24, 2019 9:56am
      - kiwibird
        
        Those who did before and those who are still doing this good work in the South Island. New Zealand born citizens.
        
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        April 24, 2019 10:15am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Kiwibird, that may be so in the South Island. However, around Auckland and in the north it is very common for the owners/managers of such businesses to be immigrants to NZ within the past 15 years. Something that is not justifiable.
        
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        April 24, 2019 10:51am
      - Tall Man
        
        Come on Kiwibird, we all know it’s far too cold down there for immigrants….. 🙂
        
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        April 24, 2019 1:15pm
      - Tall Man
        
        “We would have a never ending list of recent immigrants and families running franchise businesses.”
        
        Hulk, I don’t want you turning green but…… they’re already here…..
        
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        April 24, 2019 1:17pm
- Tall Man
  
  “Will JA be there to hand out the first new residency visas with a hug and cuddle?”
  
  Will there be a taxpayer paid film crew there?
  
  There’s your answer, unless it’s when she’s having a few days off to rest…….
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:54am
  - sooty
    
    She will turn up for a photoshoot at the drop of a hat!
    
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    April 24, 2019 1:56pm
artemisia

Housing has been mercilessly pushed as causing sick kids, so will be figuring very large in the wellbeing budget, obviously.

Mike Butler from Stop the War on Tenancies, has garnered some info from OIA requests that at the very least calls some of Mr Twyford’s public statements into questions.

Specifically the claim made by the Minister in February. The full quote was that “6000 children are admitted each year for ‘housing-sensitive hospitalisations’, and that these children have been found to be nearly four times more likely to be re-hospitalised and 10 times more likely to die in the following 10 years.”

And

“The foreword of the Healthy Homes Standards discussion document, signed by the Minister, says that Ministry of Health data (2018) shows that there are “approximately 10,800 children or 13,000 events with potentially housing related conditions presented to the hospitals in New Zealand each year.””

Data from MBIE and Ministry of Health is contradictory. Mr Butler’s full report at the below link.

Further, the report A stocktake on New Zealand Housing requisitioned by the government indicates (with little specificity) that overcrowding is the main cause of these housing related hospitalisations.

So let’s blame landlords and make them upgrade their rentals, rather than address the actual problem. Which problem BTW will not be solved by a bit more insulation or a couple of extractor fans.

http://tenancieswar.nz/2019/04/23/rental-property-child-hospitalisation-claim-contradicted/
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April 24, 2019 8:16am
Rodney Randall

Stuart Nash to Mike Yardley this morning on ZB:

“We don’t want to go down the big brother route. We prefer the dob your neighbour in path” (In accordance with the Human Rights Commissioner’s edicts recently emailed to unsuspecting NZ citizens)

Stuart Nash engaging in Orwellian Doublespeak

VOTE LABOUR OUT.
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April 24, 2019 8:22am
- alien
  
  I reported my neighbour for working while on the benefit, no one cared. I reported him for hiding his assets when found guilty of benefit fraud, again, no one cared. Oh well, the good news is he plans to use the money to buy a house so when that happens he won’t be my neighbour
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:34am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Sounds like he’ll be looking forward to it 🙂
    
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    April 24, 2019 8:52am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    VOTE LABOUR OUT
    
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    April 24, 2019 8:53am
  - ducklin71
    
    I had better luck- I pointed WINZ toward a dole-abusing low-life’s Trade Me account and she got busted. Was living a better life than my full-time job allowed me. Next thing you know?- She had to get a job! (and did)
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:40am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Try reporting a cashie-taker to IRD 🙂
    
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    April 24, 2019 10:41am
    - Tall Man
      
      Why would you?
      
      Oh, I think I know.
      
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      April 24, 2019 1:13pm
      - ducklin71
        
        Cashies- oh yes. In my cabinet maker days I was never short of them. Helped make ends meet for years 🙂
        
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        April 24, 2019 2:22pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Every so often IRD prominently nails someone – usually it turns out that the sum not paid has 6 digits and does not begin with “1”. Also it has been going on for years, which is some sort of measure about how long it takes IRD to cotton on
        
        I knew a car wrecker who got into trouble when he was audited. He hadn’t banked any cash from the business for over 5 years. How clever was that?
        
        So anyone in business who just skims a bit is in no danger. Basically IRD are not interested.
        
        Cashies are theft of course, but widely tolerated and not enforced. It is what it is ….
        
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        April 24, 2019 5:13pm
- lofty
  
  I listened to Stuart this morning on my daily commute..when he had finished, I immediately thought that his reasoning sounded like a flimsy chiffon robe, has a semblance of covering, but you can actually see right through it.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:32am
KevO'Brien

☑️☑️
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April 24, 2019 8:27am
Tall Man

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/barry-soper-tax-bracket-debate-gives-pm-jacinda-ardern-relief-from-capital-gains-tax/

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/larry-williams-drive/opinion/heather-du-plessis-allan-social-media-crackdown-story-is-a-beehive-pr-job/

Looks like these two got out of bed on the same side this morning.

They are on to it. All we are getting is shit with little substance, why… because that’s all she and the coalition actually have nothing to offer.

I was very disappointed with David’s defense of ardern yesterday. She is an unelected pm with a minority mandate to do ….. nothing. She has shown an ability to do nothing but pose.

Those from my generation, and maybe others, generally despise “poseurs” and this woman is a master at it with little else.

Whether David is trying to “play nice” for some obscure reason is his business but as far as I am concerned, ardern has shown herself to be little more than a manipulative liar and as part of our rapidly eroding freedom of speech we should be allowed to call her out whenever we wish.

I was also cautioned for using “jimmy 2 mums” and “golly”. I have seen both of these appear in recent days from other posters. Are they now permitted or not?

People think it is childish to apply insulting epithets but perhaps the level of frustration that I and many others may feel cannot be assuaged so we use whatever method we can do to expose these self serving mongrels.

I for one find it more childish and pathetic to see grown men and woman slavishly praising this pathetic excuse of a government because one person has garnered the adoration of a few simple minded fools and the media.

This is New Zealand, not North Korea and if we want to object to the actions and statements of our government we are permitted and if not here…then where?

The media in the US has decided to continue to carry on fighting the 2016 election in a serious attempt to undermine an elected leader yet here, we have the complete opposite. Media here are continuing to fight the 2017 election in an attempt to justify the selection of an airhead by a vindictive and useless old man.
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April 24, 2019 8:31am
- Scott
  
  Speaking of the elected leader in the United States here is another reason to love his policies. You may not love the man. But his policies are excellent.
  
  The Trump administration is insisting on free speech and merit-based admission in America’s universities. Because of active pressure by the Trump administration, Texas Tech has agreed to stop all race-based admissions of students to their medical program.
  
  This is good because it means that they will be training doctors on merit rather than the colour of their skin.
  
  I don’t know how you feel but I am way more comfortable with a doctor who became a doctor because he knows his stuff rather than because he is a member of a racial minority.
  
  You may not love the man. But you have to love his policies!
  
  https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/trump-administration-goes-after-race-discrimination.php
  
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  April 24, 2019 8:51am
  - Tall Man
    
    “they will be training doctors on merit rather than the colour of their skin.”
    
    I agree, but…….. have a look at the med school/dent school graduate list from Otago. Due to limiting entrance by scholastic achievement only will eventually guarantee …… you work it out.
    
    “Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery
    
    Muhammad Syafiq Fahmi Bin Mohammad Rosli, Thomas Dennison Brickland, Min Gyu Cho, Paula Ruth England, Claire Elizabeth Vera French, Asanga Gihan Nanayakkara, Rowena Esther Peters, Amirul Asraf Bin Sapawi, Gajan Yarlpady Sirikumaran, Theshini Maneka Siriwardene, Michael Lawrence Aart Ghong Yee, Patrick Thomas Gheng Leun Yee, Tianyu Zhang.”
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:03am
  - kevn
    
    @Scott… NZ has racial quotas in the Uni medical field.
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:36am
  - Ian Boag
    
    “This is good because it means that they will be training doctors on merit rather than the colour of their skin. I don’t know how you feel but I am way more comfortable with a doctor who became a doctor because he knows his stuff rather than because he is a member of a racial minority.”
    
    She will be a doctor because she has passed all the content required in a medical degree. Ethnicity and gender don’t come into that.
    
    Admissions? If only it was simple.
    
    For admission, if you just go on exam results, you can end up with over 50% women. Asians and Indians (NZers) will be over represented relative to their population percentage. That’s what “merit” gives you if measured solely on exam grades – is that a good/bad/thing?
    
    In the past (my info may be out of date) Otago more or less went on exam grades out of Med Intermediate and Auckland did that plus an interview. It’s hard to find any information on whether early exam results correlate with being “better” or “worse” doctors.
    
    And of course there are some applicants who already have a degree and/or life experience. How to compare them with 19 year olds who have one year of uni? If you favour these people then a first degree will become the default requirement ….. Like it is in some parts of North America.
    
    One of those “there is no obvious right answer” problems ….
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:52am
    - Tall Man
      
      Otago also do an interview for “international” students.
      
      One of my kids was living overseas when applying for entry so therefore was regarded as an overseas applicant meaning they had to compete against other o/seas applicants plus fly home to NZ for the interview. He was the only “non Asian” in the room that day.
      
      A few years ago Otago indicated that they would not choose solely on exam results but would look at the “overall picture” of the applicant. That is well gone which is why having English as a second language is not an obstacle, regardless of how bad you are at “comprehension and empathy”.
      
      Generally the exam result level for maori is approx 20 points lower than for all others. There are no guaranteed places for NZ citizens.
      
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      April 24, 2019 10:05am
    - septic skeptic
      
      It is a more complex issue than just a single exam result. But that doesn’t excuse racism.
      
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      April 24, 2019 12:34pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    You may not love the man. But his policies are excellent
    
    Sums up my thoughts on Trump. I detest his blustering, but there’s no question his policies have been good for the country that elected him.
    
    In contrast, I regard Ardern as slightly Manchurian’esque, thrust in to the limelight without the skills needs to lead a political party, let alone a country.
    
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    April 24, 2019 11:20am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Well said Tall Man.
  The popularity of our accidental PM is nothing more than a confirmation of the average voter’s inability to think things through.
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:31am
  - freethinker
    
    Just delete the last two words and you are spot on.
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:48am
Rodney Randall

PM’s response to Yardley’s concerns re. Andrew Little’s “racist hate speech” response to the “pamphlets.”

“I want to offer you comfort” – PM Ardern.

VOTE LABOUR OUT.
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April 24, 2019 8:51am
- Tricati
  
  Yes I heard that, then she meant off on an emotional tangent of talking about what school kids at said on social media about the shootings – Can’t answer a straight question, but why did he let it go?
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:04am
Lee C

Monique – you just turned Easter into something cheap and dirty.

Thank you.
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April 24, 2019 8:56am
- Tall Man
  
  Michael Hunt agrees with you…..
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:04am
cas

PM not available for media calls yesterday but today everywhere because of the “Christchurch call”. She’s getting more cynical by the day.
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April 24, 2019 9:05am
Maggie Pie

My partner reckons those 3 guys that survived the helicopter crash down at the Auckland Islands should all go and buy a Big Wednesday.
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April 24, 2019 9:15am
- alwyn
  
  “should all go and buy a Big Wednesday”
  That may be a little difficult. The last Big Wednesday draw was September 30 2015.
  
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  April 24, 2019 12:28pm
Tall Man

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/ardern-to-lead-global-attempt-to-tackle-social-media-terrorism/

Haven’t looked or listened to this but…. why can’t this airhead look at issues within New Zealand?

How about they get off their lazy lying backsides and start to solve our problems. If Kiwis don’t want to watch pathetic crap on social media they have a “delete” button or just don’t go there.

We have rising unemployment, continual housing pressure in certain areas, a rampant public service expanding like “what’s in for wynston”‘s bank account, we have growing wait lists in hospital, reduction of drug availability via Pharmac and this silly little girl is worried about violence/porn and hurty things on social media.

FFS, you are the unelected pr girl for the pm of New Zealand. Your job is here. Get on with it.
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April 24, 2019 9:23am
- ducklin71
  
  I’ve said this before and can’t resist doing so again- Silicon Valley has a thousand times the real power JA ever will. Good luck putting the tech genie back in the lamp. Ain’t going to happen.
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:52am
  - Jules99
    
    Looks like Trump’s got it sorted with his face-to-face meeting with Twitter CEO. He’ll have the whole problem fixed before she’s booked her airline ticket to France.
    
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    April 24, 2019 11:19am
- ex-golfer
  
  I’m not sure how she can “lead a global attempt” when it is only Ardern and Macron that are meeting.
  No true world leaders will be there.
  In fact any true world leader would avoid it with a barge-pole.
  
  Meanwhile……child poverty rises, more people than ever are sleeping on the streets, business confidence continues to plummet (although the share market gains might outweigh this) and our economic growth stalls.
  
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  April 24, 2019 10:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    A bit like this maybe…
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-oH-TELcLE
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:22pm
- alien
  
  Let her do her job of trying to be appointed to the un. The sooner she’s hired the better
  
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  April 24, 2019 10:40am
- Rachael Membery
  
  No legacy in that.
  
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  April 24, 2019 12:57pm
Fletch

First I heard about this –

New Zealand Offers Permanent Visas to Those at Mosques During Attacks

WELLINGTON, New Zealand — New Zealand is offering permanent residency to all of those who were at two mosques in Christchurch last month when a terrorist killed 50 people, as well as to the survivors’ immediate relatives, the country’s immigration minister said on Tuesday.

The move, which the New Zealand immigration agency estimated would cover about 190 people, followed public pleas from survivors and family members of the victims for certainty about their immigration status. Many of them have temporary work or study visas.

The immigration minister, Iain Lees-Galloway, said the severity of the assaults, and the anguish of the survivors, had required a “significant” response from the government.

“These people were victims of a deliberate attack that was designed to inflict maximum level of physical harm, and maximum level of mental trauma as well,” he said.

The government did not publicly announce the offer for permanent resident visas. Instead, an information page was quietly added to the immigration agency’s website.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/world/australia/new-zealand-christchurch-visas.html
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April 24, 2019 9:26am
- freethinker
  
  Such an open and transparent Government almost as clear as looking through a block of concrete. Sarc
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:51am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  How is rewarding victimhood going to built a healthy nation?
  
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  April 24, 2019 10:12am
  - krazykiwi
    
    It isn’t.
    
    It is virtue signalling writ large, and lapped up by the unthinking, voting masses
    
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    April 24, 2019 12:28pm
- cmm
  
  Well since they couldn’t even get the name of the murdered victim right in the original charges, what chance have they got of giving the right visas to the right people?
  
  I wont be surprised if they end up with more applicants than the mosque can hold.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Joe Public does get a say in this – at the ballot box. Roll on 2020 and railroad these crooked Politicians. Keep shitting in the nest and things will get real messy
  
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  April 24, 2019 1:46pm
- Nermal
  
  Next thing they’ll tell us a certain Czech was on day leave at one of the mosques
  
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  April 24, 2019 4:32pm
ex-golfer

Have people seen this?
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/media-centre/news-notifications/permanent-residence-for-people-affected-by-the-christchurch-terrorist-attacks

So we now freely open our doors for anyone simply grant permanent residence with no questions asked?

And why/how was this policy made so easily without any form of consultation?
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April 24, 2019 9:38am
- Tall Man
  
  “Captain’s call” but only advised to the UN selection committee.
  
  With any luck she’ll stop being the pr girl for “what’s in it for wynston” and head off to places far away and become the pr girl for someone else….. Then we’ll see how the sheepie go baaa…stard.
  
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  April 24, 2019 9:56am
- srylands
  
  That is extraordinary. These people have experienced tragedy. But dozens of people in New Zealand experience tragedy daily.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:38am
ex-golfer

Sometimes Piers hits the proverbial nail on the head:
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1120780872637136897
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April 24, 2019 9:40am
- Tall Man
  
  The comments are very revealing aren’t they?
  
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  April 24, 2019 10:08am
- ex-golfer
  
  The hypocrisy of a child pretending to be a socialist:
  https://www.dailywire.com/news/46299/ocasio-cortez-silent-sri-lanka-after-politicizing-ryan-saavedra
  
  Amazing how so many of those that claim socialism is the great solution have become multi-millionaires off the capitalism they so despair.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:58am
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    Even Blondes are making AOC jokes
    
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    April 24, 2019 4:34pm
kevn

@ex-golf… Amazing, such a (hidden though) feel good factor here.
I wonder how one should prove attendance on that fateful day? I’m guessing the number applying, will out-weigh the actual qualifying attendees.
Will it include those on ‘watch lists’ ?
Add the broad brush family inclusions, and a big number will occur.
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April 24, 2019 9:48am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The number should be subtracted from any UN Islamic quota.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:48am
kowtow

Bonkers Britain.

‘Gender neutral boats on the rise as Maritime Museum vows to remove all signs referring to ships as ‘she”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/23/gender-neutral-boats-rise-maritime-museum-removes-signs-referring/#comments
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April 24, 2019 10:02am
- graham
  
  The decision taken by the Scottish Maritime Museum near Troon was sparked by vandals. Twice in four months, references to boats as “she” have been scratched out of information signs, forcing the charity’s director to scrap the gender-specific term altogether.
  
  So policy is now being driven by vandals and law-breakers?
  
  Wonder if that means I can scratch out macrons on road-signs and that will force policy to change and no longer put macrons on?
  
  … yeah, thought not …
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:02am
- lofty
  
  I will make a bosun’s call and bet a dollar that this will be coming to a nautical museum near you shortly, just reef your sails and wait…..madness.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:42am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It’s not good to scrap your traditions for no good reason.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:56am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Must be the ‘tide’.
  
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  April 24, 2019 4:51pm
Fletch

Meanwhile, in the U.S –

There’s currently a bill in Rhode Island that seeks to make it illegal for school employees to have sex with students.The state teachers’ unions and the ACLU have decided to oppose it.

Welcome to Crazy Town, USA.

https://thebulwark.com/why-do-teachers-unions-want-it-to-be-legal-for-teachers-to-have-sex-with-their-students/amp/
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April 24, 2019 10:40am
kevn

ardern and macron going to sort the social media… yawn. Whatever…
Good luck with that.
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April 24, 2019 10:59am
- ex-golfer
  
  Macron is losing his grip on the French uprising.
  Sending in his jackbooted police to crack the heads of the yellow-vests and ensuring none of the mainstream media report it.
  He will be out on his arse at the next election (as will the other useful idiot, Trudaeu).
  Macron and Ardern have the same motivation – shut down any voice of dissent.
  We all know how that turned out in 1938 – 45.
  
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  April 24, 2019 3:08pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Aiming for maximum distraction from their governments’ failings
  
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  April 24, 2019 4:23pm
- alloytoo
  
  If they stopped the terrorists before the act they wouldn’t need to stop the video.
  
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  April 24, 2019 11:14pm
Maggie Pie

I was just putting my ultimate chocolate cake in the oven and heard Jacinda speaking on the 11 oclock News. She sounded sooo much like Helun that i did a double take. Maybe she just got out of bed. Has anybody else noticed ?
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April 24, 2019 11:09am
srylands

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a26960542/the-eu-wants-cars-to-have-speed-limiters-and-more-by-2022/

So the EU is set to require speed limiters on all cars by 2022. That alone is justification for Brexit.
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April 24, 2019 11:20am
- krazykiwi
  
  How the hell is that going to work? On many European autobahn/autoroute/autostrade/etc there are different limits in discrete lanes. In Germany I drove along an autobahn in an unlimited speed lane alongside a 130km/h limited lane.
  
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  April 24, 2019 1:55pm
dcrown

President Trump should make the Democrat Party an offer. If they agree to send Hillary Rodham to a supermax prison for life he will allow felons to vote. Even Hillary.
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April 24, 2019 11:44am
ex-golfer

We seem to be following a path that has been used before – it is based on 8 simple theories:
1. Healthcare – control healthcare and you control the people.
2. Poverty – increase the poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easy to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3. Debt – increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes and thus produce more poverty.
4. Gun Control – remove the ability for people to defend themselves from Government. Therefore creating a police state.
5. Welfare – take control of every aspect of peoples lives (food, housing and income).
6. Education – take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn.
7. Religion – remove the belief in God from Government and schools
8. Class Warfare – divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause ore discontent, and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Sound familiar?

All this is really doing is simplifying Lenin’s original scheme for world conquest by communism under Russian rule. Stalin declared his converts as “Useful Idiots”. The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control – and continue to do so (Venezuela being the latest example).

“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere”.
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April 24, 2019 12:41pm
ex-golfer

Can someone answer this question:
If capitalism is so bad, why are the biggest proponents of socialism multi-millionaires?
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April 24, 2019 12:43pm
- Inandout
  
  Because they have a psuedo-like guilt with being so wealthy, and as they do in California, give millions to ‘progressive’ groups. Now they aren’t so stupid as to live near the socialists in the tent cities. No, they tend to reside in gated communities or walled homes in lush suburbs. They are approaching the red zone though if illegals keep flooding in to these sanctuary cities, because eventually they will be outside the walled homes. The middle class Californians are beginning to flee the state.
  
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  April 24, 2019 2:17pm
- Nermal
  
  Because Socialism is for the people, not for Socialists
  
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  April 24, 2019 4:37pm
  - Tall Man
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVOZnDsiCW8
    
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    April 24, 2019 9:12pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  They’re pushing their desire for control.
  
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  April 24, 2019 5:12pm
mic

Just received a notice that my household has been selected to be interviewed on ‘Household Economic Survey’ from Stats NZ, enquiring as to how NZ’ers earn their money and how much they spend on housing. It’s like the Census and we must take part. I know the Census was a disaster so is this their way of filling in the gaps? Anyone else received one?
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April 24, 2019 1:18pm
- Batman
  
  Yeah the HES is one of the standard surveys that Stats do. Just like the HLFS.
  
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  April 24, 2019 1:48pm
  - sooty
    
    You can make shit up, you know!
    All you have to do is fill it in!
    Go on have someones day!
    Put a smile on their face!
    
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    April 24, 2019 2:10pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep, we got ours a couple of weeks after the Census.
  
  It’s an interesting exercise. I didn’t mind giving up part of a Saturday morning to be interviewed.
  
  We were asked whether we would consent to having our house checked for Energy/heating issues by someone from BRANZ.
  We consented… but no-one has so far appeared.
  (Our 73-year old house has no insulation and doesn’t need it)
  
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  April 24, 2019 6:20pm
ex-golfer

First there was this:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11899675

And now………:
https://pluralist.com/handsome-her-cafe-man-tax-closes/

Get woke, go broke!

PS: how can respect go both ways when one gender is prioritized over another? Confusing.
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April 24, 2019 1:44pm
- Jules99
  
  What a lot of these people forget is that many women actually know some men and like to spend time with them. In fact, most women do. Would a woman take her husband, son, dad to a place that charged him more? No, of course not. These idiots live in a bubble of man-hating harpies not recognised by the rest of us who quite like men (most of the time).
  
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  April 24, 2019 2:05pm
Maggie Pie

“These heels are KILLING me”

– Achilles
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April 24, 2019 2:42pm
krazykiwi

“Tragedy porn” is now a standard green propaganda technique. You’ve probably been on the receiving end of it, and will recognise it once I describe it

First of all you need a victim. Animals – preferably fluffy ones, and preferably with large eyes – are ideal, but people will do at a pinch. Then you have to film them in the process of dying or otherwise suffering. A presenter or scientist needs to be on hand to describe the events, preferably choking away their tears. Then you blame global warming.

It is often an effective technique, but care is required. Last week, tragedy porn proved to be the undoing of Sir David Attenborough, when on Netflix a carefully contrived story that global warming was driving walruses over cliff tops unravelled over the course of a week, as a series of flaws were discovered in the narrative and in the tales spun by the production team as they attempted to cover up what they had done. Once it emerged that the production team may well have played a role in causing the tragedy, it all started to look a bit problematic.
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April 24, 2019 4:22pm
- Fletch
  
  I remember a case back in the 70s or 80s when National Geographic did the same thing to lemmings….
  
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  April 24, 2019 5:52pm
RW Capitalist

One last laugh at Cullens (CGT) expense.
Since cullen thinks Marx = GOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtSnLa5_Zmc
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April 24, 2019 4:39pm
RW Capitalist

Thoughts on Tax.
Has anyone been to “tax haven”
I have
Noticed that the streets are clean, the cars are mostly new, seems almost everyone owns a boat (large), the people are well dressed and happy.
Maybe the fat controllers “wellness” budget could take account of that?……Yeah…..Nah
also I see, someone has been “calling out” Simon Bridges inflation linked tax bracket bill.
Claiming it is effectively a tax cut every 3 years.
Limiting Govt.s ability.
What’s wrong with that?
Surely thats a good thing?
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April 24, 2019 4:59pm
cmm

So the woman formerly known as PriNZess is telling people they are safe attending Anzac commemorations in Turkey.

That after the Turkish president said people would be returning in their coffins like their forefathers just a month ago.

So is this her “inchewishun” again? Or has she got some hard data?

But somehow, it is dangerous to attend Anzac commemorations in NZ and we should all stay away?

For her to believe all that she must think that:
1) Turkish cops are better than ours.
2) Turkish intel is better than ours.
3) Turkey is inherently safer than NZ.

Since Syria is across the border and there will be a lot of ex-Isis types just waiting across the border to claim their 72 prizes and their cops are likely very hostile to Anzac I’d say she is lying on all fronts.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/112235145/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confident-new-zealanders-safe-attending-anzac-day-commemorations-in-turkey
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April 24, 2019 5:23pm
- nasska
  
  Cindy should consider this quote from Friedrich Nietzsche:
  
  …..”I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you”……
  
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  April 24, 2019 6:01pm
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    Thanks for that gem, nasska. I shall treasure it and bear it in mind whenever Cindy opens her mouth.
    
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    April 24, 2019 7:26pm
Prince

Time for another Pike River media drop.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/112243429/pike-river-reentry-manager-to-be-first-inside-since-deadly-explosion-nearly-nine-years-ago
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April 24, 2019 7:15pm
stigie

Can’t quite believe the massive amount of comments on GD today..?
How does one get through them all !~
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April 24, 2019 7:43pm
- softail 1450
  
  KB just aint working ,little wonder there were only 125 post yesterday and apparently Im the 1st this morning on all subjects…..
  
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  April 25, 2019 7:02am
ex-golfer

Random questions of the day:
1. Why did we bother with the Harmful Digital Communications Act – if we now need to go on a worldwide crusade to shut down social media that doesn’t comply with Jacinda Aderns feelings?
2. Is the above the replicating how successful the Anti-Smacking legislation was at solving child abuse?
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April 24, 2019 8:18pm
Captain Mainwaring

So Lizzie Marvellous is engaged.
To another woman.
Whether it’s a woman or a man, can anyone tell me why this is news?
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April 24, 2019 9:44pm
- softail 1450
  
  CM,at least she has at last engaged with something and is now assured of at least one reader weekly .
  
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  April 25, 2019 7:04am
hullkiwi

Well Andrew Angry Little, as they always say, be careful what you wish for, because it may come back and bit you.

In Angry’s case, it seems it has…..

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/controversial-uk-columnist-reveals-death-threat-from-kiwi/ar-BBWdGGp?ocid=spartandhp

You see, for the past month, we’ve been told relentlessly by the left and the organised media campaign, that those of us on the right are the ones full of hate, with bag language and prone to commit extreme violence.

Well if the article in the link above is to be believerd, it appears Hopkins has pricked the thin skin of one or two of of St Jacinda’s local followers to the extent they have sent a foul mouth tweet containing a death threat against Hopkins. Oh dear Andy, what are you going to do next?

Maybe now, you will thing, and stop your stupid and pointless campaign.
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