General Debate 1 April 2019

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Captain Mainwaring

So Mr.Tarrant is complaining that he’s not allowed visitors, phone calls or media access.
He should consider himself lucky. If this atrocity had happened in any other country the cops would have blown his head off.
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April 1, 2019 8:01am
- SGA
  
  If this atrocity had happened in any other country the cops would have blown his head off
  
  Well… no. Often such massacres end in the death of offenders because they shoot themselves or choose suicide by cop (e.g., David Gray).
  Martin Bryant and Anders Breivik are both still alive, for example.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:48am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  I believe we would all have been better off if that had been what happened. Overseas the usual apologists are saying that all Muslim mass murderers end up dead, so the fact he didn’t, is again proof that the West is crusading again, so on, so forth.
  
  However – I for one would like to hear what he has to say on the subject of how he got vetted and cleared for a firearms license…
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:49am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  What is the sense of killing the best lead that you have to such an awful crime?
  
  Take them alive, and then take them apart.
  
  – Did they act alone?
  – Who else was on the “team”?
  – Who funded the act?
  – Who was paid to “look the other way”?
  – Who would have benefitted from the act?
  So many questions. Dead men don’t tell tales.
  
  The cardinal rule: always dispose of your weapon after the crime. (So why is this guy still alive if the act was a false flag?)
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:49am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    False flags can employ usefully gullible (murderous) idiots; the two are not mutually exclusive. For example – Martinus van der Lubbe and the Reichstag fire.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:11am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      This guy was not an idiot (to have planned and executed such a henious act to such an extent).
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:34am
- cmm
  
  This is not how the script rolled in his head.
  
  He is supposed to be a “voice of the people”. Like Mandela (or even Hitler) spend some time in prison, then be released to mass acclaim.
  
  Maybe even a Nobel in it?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:12am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    That would look weird to someone who hadn’t read part of the manifesto.
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:18am
    - Paulus
      
      As I have never seen the so called manifesto I could not possibly comment !
      
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      April 1, 2019 10:14am
  - sooty
    
    So it would be a fight for first place between Cindy and the shooter then, for a Nobel prize?
    No wonder she is trying to spike his guns!
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:35am
- OTGO
  
  If it had of been a country/state with open carry a brave citizen would’ve blown his head off.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:15am
- DigNap15
  
  So how is he complaining?
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:34am
krazykiwi

Another day, another ‘waiting moderation’. I miss Kiwiblog.
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April 1, 2019 8:02am
- DigNap15
  
  This is what happens when you give in to terrorism.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:43am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Someone should compose a song.
  
  “Another day of KiwiBlog blues.”
  “Moderation is not something that we choose.”
  “We gotta fight for freedom or we lose.”
  “How would it feel to be in DF’s shoes?”
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:52am
- kowtow
  
  A small price to pay to keep KB on air . Remember there are far left activists and any number of others who’d be delighted to shut this site down. The best thing we can do is to keep posting. Keep calm and carry on.
  
  I see the ODT editorial has fallen for the surrender mode.
  
  ‘ It might be prudent to give up portions of our liberty for the sake of safety.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/balancing-security-and-human-rights
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:06am
  - ducklin71
    
    It is NEVER ok to sacrifice liberty under ANY circumstances. Freedom or death, period.
    
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    April 1, 2019 8:51pm
- softail 1450
  
  Krazykiwi, absolutely agree WTF is going on ? do we have a SJW moderating now ,probably still in bed sleeping .
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:06am
- Biscuit
  
  Exactly, krazykiwi.
  
  I type this innocuous comment at 10.27am.
  
  No idea when it will ACTUALLY appear in here.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:28am
andrew davies

When Trump asked how he could help after Christchurch our Prime Minister churlishly told him to “love all Muslims”. This despite Muslims in the US enjoying the exact same rights as everyone else.
Today our PM is in China. Muslims are not treated so well there, just ask the Uighers
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-45474279
No doubt the Chinese are in for a telling off from our fearless leader.
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April 1, 2019 8:04am
- krazykiwi
  
  She doesn’t know how the world works, and certainly will have zero insights into the way the Chinese think about their place in the world. She will achieve nothing because we are strategically inconsequential, claim the opposite, and then exit as quickly as possible. The media will hail her visit as a victory for Sino-Kiwi relations.
  
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  April 1, 2019 3:15pm
- Brian Marshall
  
  This upset me Andrew. I don’t love and will never love ISIS. Nor any of the scumbags in Pakistan, Egypt or any country that routinely chop heads off, burn people or enslave people just because their prophet 1500 years ago said it is okay.
  The comment from Jacinda showed just how blinkered her approach to the world really is.
  
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  April 1, 2019 4:05pm
  - Tall Man
    
    “Blinkered”.
    
    I think you are being far too polite.
    
    I actually think that “what’s in it for wynston” and the pr girl have schemed for quite a while and they know exactly what they re doing and where they are going.
    
    “what’s in it for wynston” has no real love for New Zealand and those in it. His only interest has been in himself and aquiring as many baubles as he can.
    
    The pr girl has a long term plan and it does not include New Zealand. We are merely a stepping stone so we either let her walk over us and be on her way or we wobble a little and bring her down.
    
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    April 1, 2019 7:11pm
skyblue

It is snowing in Queenstown.
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April 1, 2019 8:05am
- RRM
  
  I enjoy ztev’s humour.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:10am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Earthquake in Wgtn last night.
  or maybe the neighbour just crack a large fart?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:24am
- sooty
  
  I hope that you have stocked up on coal and firewood, because the price is going to skyrocket.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:36am
slightlyrighty

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111582476/wellmeaning-pkeh-you-must-get-out-of-the-way-of-the-muslim-communitys-healing

this could well be the moment when the left went too far post the tragedy of 15 March.

A Part Maori telling Pakeha to stay away from Muslim Grief?
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April 1, 2019 8:08am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Islam is not a race.
  If the comments were directed at atheists or Anglicans, then it would make more sense.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:54am
- harvey wilson
  
  It’s about the eighth or ninety time the left have gone too far , the ranting about colonialism at the vigil or Marama Davidson calling for the removal of pale voices “ gently if you must “ are still the worst .
  
  In comparison labour have been very restrained. It’s the lunatics , Greens and attention seekers who have hijacked the massacre for their own ends .
  
  We must be due another selfie from Gharaman soon .
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:57am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    How many of the ‘pale voices’ are removing themselves quietly from the Greens, because they are obviously unwelcome? Funding, votes, events etc?
    
    Does anyone here know some too pale Greenies who are making that decision?
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:32am
- Cobolt24
  
  I thought Islam isn’t a race, also… what about people of other races sharing their grief or sorrow? Are they exempt from this despite not having anything to do with Islam?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:03am
- Raphael
  
  It’s all part of the extreme leftist narrative that everything that is wrong with world is the fault of people of Western European descent.
  
  The reality is that what is wrong with the world is that people of all ethnicities and cultures are flawed and some of them do bad things, and some of them do good things, and sometimes it’s the same person, and all we can do is see if the good a person does outweighs the bad…..
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:06am
Maggy Wassilieff

Simon Bridges didn’t handle his RNZ interview on proposed review of Hate Speech Law very well this morning.
He let Suzie Fergusson cut him off as he was making a point about Cat Stevens re hate speech.
She tried insinuating he supported White Supremacy.
He needs to be less polite and stand his ground more firmly. Use short, sharp sentences during radio interviews.
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April 1, 2019 8:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Listen here:
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018688966/simon-bridges-discusses-hate-crime-review
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:09am
- cmm
  
  And also push back and keep command of the direction of the conversation.
  
  “No Suzy, here’s what everyday New Zealanders want to discuss….”
  
  “… and for the record I have Maori heritage, so please stow that White Supremacy race baiting nonsense.”
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:13am
  - Colinxy
    
    You’d think the press would struggle applying that denigration to Simon Bridges but after the press’ labelling of George Zimmerman (the White-Hispanic and Half-White) I doubt there are any lows that the MSM won’t go in order to smear someone they don’t like with white supremacy.
    
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    April 1, 2019 8:35am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Simon shouldn’t have to use his Maori heritage as a buffer.
    
    I see the Hamilton City Councillor is in trouble for historically calling a terrorist scum, will I need to apologise for calling Tarrant white trash?
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111678898/hamilton-city-councillor-in-spotlight-again-after-historic-facebook-post-resurfaces
    
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    April 1, 2019 8:40am
    - cmm
      
      I don’t suggest he use his Maori heritage as a buffer, but rather as way to mock their irrationality.
      
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      April 1, 2019 8:50am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I am sorry but that is like me having to say that I have Maori friends or dated one once or twice so I can’t possible be a racist, I just don’t think of my friends in that way.
        
        I find having to do that offensive.
        
        Simon isn’t in his job because he has Maori heritage, nor would I suggest does Paula so why should they be goaded into stating the fact for that then to be used against them at a later date that they used that heritage as an advantage, like a ‘quota’, I prefer meritocracies, which I believe the National Party on the whole espouses.
        
        I did laugh last election at the discomfort displayed by various Maori MP’s when David Seymour had speaking rights on Marae or some such along with the rest, I do not know how many were aware or would have cared that he has Maori heritage, nor would it seem to be an issue.
        
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        April 1, 2019 9:02am
      - SGA
        
        On Kiwiblog people sometimes complain about people showing racism/sexism towards white males, and it doesn’t matter if the offenders are white males themselves (pick someone from the Greens, if you like). So, I don’t think that being a member of a group automatically precludes you from being able to show racism towards other members of that group. The expression “Uncle Tom”, for example, was used to describe black americans who bought into the racism of the whites.
        
        (btw, this has nothing to do with Simon Bridges per se (I’m not accusing him of anything), I’m just thinking out loud about the general principle).
        
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        April 1, 2019 9:05am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        “A CNN analyst called out a Fox News contributor for his ‘white privilege.’ He’s black.”
        and it arrives here.
        
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        April 1, 2019 9:28am
      - waikatogirl
        
        RWC: “A CNN analyst called out a Fox News contributor for his ‘white privilege.’ He’s black.”
        and it arrives here.”
        
        It has already arrived here. A few weeks ago in QT Cindy accused Simon of being racist. The Speaker made her withdraw and apologise.
        
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        April 1, 2019 10:27am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Alas IMHO the MSM have been waiting for an incident like CCH so they can pile into white men and accuse them of white supremacy and also call for Hate Speech Laws which is code for laws against any statements by conservatives against the Left.
    
    I note how they were in such a rush to label white males in general.
    
    Time to push back at them. Remind them that when a Muslim terrorist attacks the MSM are quick to claim them as a lone wolf who doesnt represent all Muslims.
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:29am
    - septic skeptic
      
      It’s also about the MSM trying to regain a monopoly on the news.
      
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      April 1, 2019 9:36am
      - OTGO
        
        I heard Duncan Garner last week on the AM Show urge the Government to legislate social media so that
        “we can get on with reporting the news”.
        
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        April 1, 2019 10:55am
      - sooty
        
        Would make more sense, Duncan saying that this morning, been the one eyed journalist that he is!
        He’s the april fool!
        
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        April 1, 2019 12:10pm
    - Jules99
      
      That’s where free speech is so important. When the electorate sees the nasty comments being made by certain leftist MP’s they will be horrified. As we know here, most kiwis are decent people. Those tax-payer funded idiots who sneer at kiwi workers risk losing votes at the next election.
      
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      April 1, 2019 10:09am
- brett68
  
  Simon Bridges has no political nous at all.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:20am
  - pdm
    
    brett68 – unfortunately I think you might be right.
    
    That is where Jacinda beats him. She might be incompetent in the day to day administration of the government – but she knows and understands how the game of politics is played.
    
    After all it is all she has ever done.
    
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    April 1, 2019 8:55am
    - brett68
      
      Bridges is trying to be a John Key clone.
      
      Key could speak off the cuff effortlessly Bridges cannot, he has to shelve his ego and realise that.
      
      When he goes into these interviews he has to do some preparation otherwise he ends up coming across like a rambling idiot.
      
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      April 1, 2019 10:14am
- hullkiwi
  
  Agreed.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:23am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Simon is great with his answers but is too patient when it is the interviewer who has a preconceived notion who cannot change their belief system.
    
    Jordan Peterson says “it is good to encourage the Left and Right to discuss their points of view, but you should realise they are not speaking the same language.” ? ?
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:03am
- kowtow
  
  It’s very hard to get across such important nuanced and balanced ideas in an interview like that .
  
  In may ways that interview epitomises how utterly shit and partisan our media have become , that is RNZ , state funded and supposedly our most respected and Ferguson poses the question to the leader of the opposition :
  
  “So disseminating white supremacist views is OK in your view?”
  
  He never said nor even implied that and yet she put that out there baldly knowing full well that’s not what he was saying.
  
  Time for conservatives to get “woke” to what’s happening . The new New Zealand . And the media are to the forefront of the attack.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:34am
  - Sacha
    
    Maybe she’s been studying Katie Hopkins technique – the interview with Jordan Peterson perhaps?
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:46am
- Inandout
  
  Maggy, Simon is a classic example of the fear conservatives feel in this country since the shootings. Goldritz and Davidson spew all kinds of hate speech with impunity, but the rest of us are pacified by selected moderation. Facebook and You Tube slam much of right of centre opinion, but meekly allow left of centre hate speech. Radical teachers continue to drive their agenda onto naive school children. I can see a negative reaction though to the grief fest we have endured over the last fortnight; many people are just turning off.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:54am
- MrTips
  
  IMO, media interviews for anyone bar Cindy need to go something like this from now on:
  
  media: so, how long have you thought white supremacy rocks?
  interviewee: I don’t. Did your Journalists Facebook group or CEO tell you to come up with that question?
  
  I am tired of the media in this country. Compromised hacks who couldn’t tell a straight story using a laser.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:12am
- Classic Liberal
  
  He wasn’t too bad. At least he kept emphasising the importance of freedom of expression.
  
  Much better than the Ex-Race Relations Commissioner Joris De Bres wanting a hate crime register, with Espiner not pushing back at all about who could find their lives ruined by such a thing: false accusations, accusations for things that should just be open debate and free speech.
  
  Espiner is being totally spineless for free speech!
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:52am
  - Paulus
    
    Isn’t Espiner leaving the morning programme ?
    I hear his wife along with somebody called Nipper, a so called repeater from the dreadful Herald, is on the afternoon programme today.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:21am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    One more thing about Joris De Bres and his desired ‘hate crime register’: he wanted even ‘witnesses’ to be able to report people.
    
    So anything you see that *you* consider ‘hate crime’ will get you into his register, even if it’s actually just a couple or friends teasing teach other or a robust debate.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:47am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    One more thing about Joris De Bres and his desired ‘hate crime register’: he wanted even ‘witnesses’ to be able to report people.
    
    So anything you see that *you* consider ‘hate crime’ will get someone into his register, even if it’s actually just a couple or friends teasing teach other or a robust debate.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:48am
    - mark15
      
      That’s how it works in the UK.
      Person A calls person B a racist word.
      Person B couldn’t care less what person A thinks.
      Person Z hears it and is offended.
      Person Z goes to LGBTQI police and gets person A arrested on a hate crime charge.
      Person B thinks WTF?
      Coming to NZ soon,the new legal definition of being offended on someone else’s behalf.
      
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      April 1, 2019 12:16pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Allowing a free voice to whom you chose and denying others is undoing civil society.
      I refuse to lay down and be walked over–I haven’t got a drop of Polynesian in me. I am white beyond my control being of Irish, Scots, German and Cockney ancestry. I see all those ethnic threads contributions to my life skills. Generalities may well express the truth of typical traits.
      
      I hope my tolerance is high as befits a Christian. Later this year my youngest daughter is to marry a fellow with Tuwharetoa ancestry. I spent 7 years working in a Pacific country where cultural respect was essential.
      
      Social justice has to work in all directions. We must not let a knee jerk reaction to the recent tragedy become an excuse for authoritarian political control by a selected COL.
      
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      April 1, 2019 12:56pm
DigNap15

Is it safe to watch the MSM yet?
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April 1, 2019 8:08am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Never was since the ‘kids took over’ channeling Twyford
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:46am
- sooty
  
  No!
  Never has been since 1984!
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:03am
- Rachael Membery
  
  No
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:21am
- oldgolfer
  
  No.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:24am
Maggie Pie

~ APRIL FOOLS DAY ~

Wish i could be there to see my partnwers face when he gets the Krispie Kreme out of his lunchbox for morning tea – and discovers i’ve changed the filling to mayo 🙂

[The txt i get could be interesting]
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April 1, 2019 8:13am
- Biscuit
  
  Vish-us, Maggie Pie!
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:31am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You should see the txt he just sent 🙁
    Lucky i’m on the 4 – midnight todsy
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:10am
Poppa

I am so excited! Cindy is in China to sort out the Chinese on a whole range of issues, I am sure they will be very happy to listen.

My guess is, it will achieve nothing
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April 1, 2019 8:14am
- hullkiwi
  
  I thought she was only there for 1 day
  Sorting out all China’s issues will take more than 1 day!
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:44am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Well we can have four seasons….
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:03am
    - Tall Man
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYEyCDRHmE
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:10am
- sooty
  
  Depends on wether Clarke was on the trip, or not! Does airforce have a big round bed, down the back amongst the chemtrail equipment?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:07am
- oldgolfer
  
  It’s a long way to go for lunch, but then I did drive to Dunedin from Christchurch one night for a burger.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:25am
  - waikatogirl
    
    We drove to Rakaia from Christchurch for a salmon bagel.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:45am
- KiWombat
  
  She had to go and make a stand, couldn’t be seen to be upstaged by Mark Mitchell last month.
  
  It will be interesting to see what this short trip costs the taxpayer, as Mitchell was invited to attend by the Chinese Government, who also paid all the associated costs !
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:45am
  - sooty
    
    Airforce 1.
    Aircrew.
    Cooks and stewards.
    Ground crew.
    Engine, airframe maintenance.
    Cheaper to fly commercial.
    Air NZ paid for Bazza to go commerical, how many more toadies, went with him and how many more on airforce 1?
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:54am
- backster
  
  Is she going to confront them like Winston confronted Erdogan the Turk.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:36am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Like winstons undies….it depends
    On whether she can get a word in between the chinese laughter.
    
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    April 1, 2019 1:04pm
OTGO

He comes across as weak. But that is to those of us of a certain age that have been brought up robustly where it is more important to be a hero than a victim.
There will be 18 to 35 year olds who will be thinking he was bullied by the interviewer and actually like HIM for that.
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April 1, 2019 8:19am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Not like him for it , dislike the interviewer for their style.
  Does that demographic usually listen to that show?
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:12am
hullkiwi

You have to love the leftard virtue signaling hypocrites who are school principals these days.

HK junior attends a rural rodney school, the principal lives on the North Shore and chases every passing virtue signaling bus (issue).

Example, the school have a zero waste policy (reality trying to economize on the number of Auckland Council rubbish sacks they consume), so are little darlings are made to bring their lunchbox waste home with them. Then there is this weekend’s school fair, it too will be “zero waste” event. The question begs how, given they are running a bar and food stalls? Are they going to use glasses, crockery and metal cutlery? I doubt it.
Then the coup de gras was an email last night. Like all schools our son was fed the evils of single use plastic bags in classroom studies. Well yesterday, Mrs HK gets an email about a school trip his class will be doing. Amongst the obligatory list of what he is required to have with him was, a PLASTIC BAG for his wet clothing.

As many of you say, no one does hypocrisy better than the virtue signaling leftards in our midst!
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April 1, 2019 8:22am
- sooty
  
  Send him to school with an empty fertilser sack!
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:09am
- Sacha
  
  I remember carrying my togs home wrapped in a wet towel . And everything else in my school bag got wet as well.
  School books got soggy, leather schoolbag got damp and had to be dried out on the clothes line, or the leather would crack. Or get mouldy.
  Todays parents don’t know how lucky they are!
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:56am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yeah, I was no different. There were no “single use plastic bags” back then.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:31am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Found this for YA.
      We Didn’t Have the “Green Thing” Back In My Day
      In the line at the store, the cashier told the older woman that plastic bags weren’t good for the environment. The woman apologized to her and explained, we didn’t have the “green thing” back in my day. That’s right, they didn’t have the “green thing” in her day. Back then, they returned their milk bottles, Coke bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, using the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But they didn’t have the “green thing” back in her day. In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn’t have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn’t climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks. But she’s right. They didn’t have the “green thing” in her day. Back then, they washed the baby’s diapers because they didn’t have the throw-away kind? They dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts wind and solar power really did dry the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.? But that old lady is right, they didn’t have the “green thing” back in her day. Back then, they had one TV, or radio, in the house not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a pizza dish, not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, they blended and stirred by hand because they didn’t have electric machines to do everything for you. When they packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, they used wadded up newspaper to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, they didn’t fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. They used a push mower that ran on human power. They exercised by working so they didn’t need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she’s right, they didn’t have the “green thing” back then. They drank from a fountain when they were thirsty, instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time they had a drink of water. They refilled pens with ink, instead of buying a new pen, and they replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But they didn’t have the “green thing” back then. Back then, people took the streetcar and kids rode their bikes to school or rode the school bus instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service.They had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And they didn’t need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint. But that old lady is right. They didn’t have the “green thing” back in her day. Gee!!! That was MY day too!
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      April 1, 2019 1:08pm
G152

Turn it back on the ‘interviewer’
That she is speaking from her ‘whitey’ position of power and privilege to the part Maori Simon Bridges.
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April 1, 2019 8:23am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Indeed, I often feel that throwing it right back at them is our only way to teach them how dangerous speech restrictions are. I have a few ‘cards’ I could play in that regard.
  
  But I don’t want to. People at KB are generally for freedom of speech and we don’t go around bothering people and trying to get them on stupid registers for every little insult!
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:13am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    It is a shame when being a gentleman and naturally polite is a disadvantage, and that is what Simon is, but his wife says that he has mongrel when need be so I can wait until closer to the election for him to unleash himself.
    
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    April 1, 2019 5:27pm
- rangitoto
  
  He should have said “You are white, I am not”.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:45am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Ultimately plenty of us could go around claiming to be 1/8 this or that and there would be a thing the SJWs could do about it!
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:11am
Engelbert Humperdink

Golriz has certainly lowered the bar again with her latest comments. Just when it seemed it could not get any lower… So, when is Devoyd’s replacement going to step up and call GG out for racist anti-white hate speech? Oh, crickets? Yep, I hear ’em too.
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April 1, 2019 8:28am
- DigNap15
  
  Who is Devoy’s replacement?
  Years ago we were always hearing from the Race Relations Concilliation Officer.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:46am
- kowtow
  
  link please
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:51am
  - kris
    
    Here it is:
    https://twitter.com/golrizghahraman/status/1111850122135035904
    
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    April 1, 2019 5:52pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I can’t see that as hate speech. All she seems to be doing is pointing out that blaming all members of specific races or religions for the actions of some is as ludicrous as blaming all white people for the actions of some white supremacist killers.
      
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      April 1, 2019 6:03pm
- harvey wilson
  
  What’s her latest ? Her and Davidson have really turned the Greens into a dumpster fire, you could respect the Rod Donald era greens as people with actual principles even if you disagreed with them .
  
  The current lot are as awful as Winston and his morally bankrupt hangers on .
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:00am
  - Jules99
    
    The real problem is poor leadership. He has no control at all over the children.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:16am
- sooty
  
  Just don’t stand under any of them flying pigs, now will you!
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:11am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Link?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:23am
- NZpatriot
  
  What did GG say this time? Link? Cheers.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:38am
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    This is what she twerted…
    
    “You realise white supremacists are historically big into mass murder of the Rainbow community right? If you want to associate an entire race or religion with the way extremists treat minorities you would have to start with people of Western European descent. Wonder why you aren’t”
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:58am
    - Tall Man
      
      I agree with your comment…”twerted”.
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:08am
Nukuleka

Sharia law developments in Brunei with punishments such as stoning for homosexual acts and adultery should be of major concern to New Zealanders. It would be interesting to know if there is support among any religious group in our country for practices which an overwhelming majority of kiwis would find abhorrent.
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April 1, 2019 8:28am
- Swifty
  
  British Muslim attitudes polled recently, as an indication:
  
  https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:02am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Developing or regressing?
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:16am
Lee C

I disagree Maggie, he kept his cool, and prevailed over the rather simplistic attitude of the interviewer, who clearly aimed to get a headline: ‘Bridges Supports White Supremacist.’
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April 1, 2019 8:34am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  He responded OK, bit too waffly and repetitive… but Suzy got her nasty hits in, and that’s what many listeners will remember.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:41am
  - brett68
    
    I do wonder if he ever does any prep for these interviews or just rocks up and ad libs.
    
    I’m guessing he just makes it up as he goes along which is why he waffles so much and ends up getting tied in knots all the time.
    
    Combine that with his accent and he’s just irritating to listen to.
    
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    April 1, 2019 8:48am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Simon is a polite person and polite people have trouble showing their mongrel even when it is patently required.
      
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      April 1, 2019 9:56am
      - brett68
        
        I agree, as an opposition leader he’s hopeless.
        
        No fight at all and boy do we need someone with fight at the moment.
        
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        April 1, 2019 10:17am
      - waikatogirl
        
        I didn’t say Simon was hopeless brett68 but he often fights fire with a garden hose when confronted by the MSM. He is better in the House when he is forceful, but not too many watch Parliament TV.
        
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        April 1, 2019 10:50am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      As opposed to… Jacinda? At least Simon tries to get an answer out. Jacinda doesn’t get continually interrupted and still doesn’t say anything.
      
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      April 1, 2019 10:18am
      - brett68
        
        As you know Arderns got the media on her side, she’ll always get an easier run than Simon.
        
        Simon must realise this, so he’s got to be far sharper and not give the media any rope to hang him with.
        
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        April 1, 2019 10:26am
    - Tall Man
      
      And brett (I hate Simon Bridges) is back in the saddle.
      
      I really wonder what your issue is.
      
      Is it that hard for you to see how much the country now hates “what’s in it for wynston”? Can you not figure out that his ascerbic and arrogant manner has had as much to do with his fall in the polls as his betrayal of his supporters?
      
      We do not need a rabid dog out there which is what you seem to what Simon Bridges to become.
      
      Look at how the two non male mps of the greens are decimating their support from moderate green voters.
      
      Your complete lack of political nous allows you to completely misread current events.
      
      Simon Bridges is far from perfect but his strategy of allowing the pr girl to self destruct is, in my opinion, the correct one.
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:05am
      - brett68
        
        I’ll say it again I do not hate Simon Bridges he just sucks as Leader.
        
        He will not beat Ardern, he will never be PM, Bridges will be the reason NZ will become a full blown socialist state after 2020.
        
        We will not recover from that either.
        
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        April 1, 2019 11:29am
      - Tall Man
        
        “I do not hate Simon Bridges he just sucks as Leader”
        
        Well then, I’ll put you down as a fan.
        
        He is not Sir John Key, he does not try to be Sir John Key.
        
        He is not an incompetent like “what’s in it for wynston’s” pr girl, he is not trying to be that incompetent.
        
        His team has rallied behind him, at least publicly, and if that is not the true mark of a leader then I have no idea what is.
        
        I have no idea how old you are but the day of the trumpeting leader is well past. The current pm is a disaster in almost everything she touches but has a media running very strong interference for her and doing their best to undermone her opposition.
        
        Look past the headlines for a change.
        
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        April 1, 2019 2:37pm
  - kowtow
    
    I’m wondering whether we’ve reached peak virtue signalling in the media and ordinary folk will be wondering wtf is going on with the media .
    You know the old 80 / 20 thing.
    The media could well be doing themselves a disservice by over egging their virtue signalling.
    
    But then they’ve never been held in high regard in opinion polls , since forever.
    
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    April 1, 2019 8:57am
  - Ford Prefect
    
    I have the most utmost respect for Jordan Peterson, who appears on so many interviews where they try to trap him into saying a sound grab that others can use to destroy his reputation. He never loses his temper and chooses his words brilliantly. He’s not afraid of a moments silence while he contemplates what to say and often turns the questions back to the interviewer.
    
    A very hard skill to develop, especially when so many traps have been laid to get you.
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:18am
  - Frit
    
    I agree the interview was low rent baiting, but also useful to remember that there is not a single swinging voter in the audience 🙂
    
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    April 1, 2019 9:31am
  - Jules99
    
    I don’t know. The people I know who listen to that programme are older and don’t like rudeness. It will make them feel more favourable to Simon. Nasty hits is not the same as reasonable debate.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:19am
Simon

Powell Peralta Supreme T-Shirt White

Product Details:
Brand: Powell Peralta
Colour: White
Name: Supreme
Type: T-Shirt

https://www.trademe.co.nz/clothing-fashion/men/tshirts/listing-2007720603.htm

Oh My God!
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April 1, 2019 8:34am
- Lizziep
  
  I am behind the 8 ball here who on earth is Powell Peralta?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:23am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Don’t think that is the point, more subliminal.
    
    A ‘white’ tee-shirt, with the word supreme printed on it, = must be code for white supremicist to some.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:23am
    - Tall Man
      
      I thought the “supreme” referred to the immediate content of the T shirt.
      
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      April 1, 2019 10:57am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Supreme nothing? White t shirts will have to become a thing I am afraid.
        
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        April 1, 2019 4:01pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And more importantly…who cares but at least simon is prepared to be our “moral compass” and get outraged on our behalf.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:56am
    - sooty
      
      I thought it was a phallic symbol!
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:56am
- Jules99
  
  It’s a skate board company – click on his other products.
  
  https://www.trademe.co.nz/clothing-fashion/men/tshirts/listing-2007729088.htm?rsqid=215ab88a97304613ab520dddb3a37296
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:22am
sooty

I see that Barry Soper travelled to China, courtesy of ANZ and not on airforce 1.
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April 1, 2019 8:38am
- srylands
  
  I would be surprised if Air Force 1 travelled to China.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:05am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    Be surprised, do you think flight KIW933 north was just to blow the cobwebs out.
    Would have taken 48 hours on SQ to fly first class, Cannot see the PM going business.
    Not fake news, the gas guzzler has made the trip.
    Simple check on the flight radars.
    Isn’t it ironic, the press go commercial as the time frame is so insane to achieve anything major, businessman I guess will fly with Mr Parker next month.
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:41am
    - srylands
      
      What is KIW933?
      
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      April 1, 2019 1:04pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Jessica, TV1 political reporter, said the msm had flown up to China separately from Cindy. I guess 24 hours was not enough time for the press on this official trip to China.
  
  Q. Was the PM-Select accompanied to China by business people promoting their wares with the help of the government as is the usual on these trips? 24 hours would not be long enough for them to make the trip worthwhile. Did they fly separately as well or was that side of the trip cancelled due to Cindy needing to get home lickety-split?
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:27am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Surely they could have flown up with our saviour and back commercial?
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:25am
    - sooty
      
      24hr is not much of a junket for the party hacks and scribes.
      Just enough time to race in for some fast food and duty free to buy up large for the next sex camp and back on the plane!
      Could Whinney have sleep all the way there and stayed awake for 30min?
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:53am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    No business people apparently.
    
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    April 1, 2019 4:04pm
waikatogirl

A new ban in Tauranga City designed to move homeless away from the shopping district. A community worker is criticising the ban as he says the city buildings provide dry conditions for the homeless which they won’t have if forced to live in the local parks, etc.

Last week we drove past the Tauranga port where it was laden with mountains of containers. There are empty ones for sale that could be put strategically for the homeless to find shelter from the wind and rain.
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April 1, 2019 8:39am
- DigNap15
  
  Please don’t encourage them!
  I look around and all I see is better cars than mine in the car parks, everyone out shopping.
  They need to be picked up and locked up for a week to get a shock.
  Tell them if they keep sullying our streets their benefit will be cancelled
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:49am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Do the “homeless” want to stop being homeless?
  What are the reasons that they are homeless?
  What are the advantages to them of presenting to the public as “homeless?”
  
  So many questions that the medie never seems to ask…
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:57am
  - DigNap15
    
    It saves getting dressed up
    Saves having a shave
    Saves working all day.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:45am
- simpleton1
  
  “Life changing help”, may not be as good as it appears to be.
  Sometimes we seem to think we are solving a problem, but simply create even worse problems, like “angel wing” in young ducks.
  https://www.wideopenpets.com/bread-is-bad-for-ducks-and-the-world-cant-handle-it/
  “Angel wing is a wing deformity which usually means that the ducks cannot fly. It’s incurable and can change a duck’s life forever”.
  
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  April 1, 2019 9:15am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I have domestic ducks and they do not fly, they seem fine, they don’t get bread though, too expensive.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:35am
sooty

Is our Cindy on her way back from China, yet?
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April 1, 2019 8:40am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Just refueling the executive Airfarce 757
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:48am
  - Paulus
    
    I heard that only one of the elderly ex Canadian 757 is usable as they use the other one for spares.
    They are very heavy gas guzzlers and are not reliable (as Key found out on more than one occasion).
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:26am
    - srylands
      
      Google the RNZAF “fleet”. Then google the Australian Air Force fleet. Adjusting for country size, it is still quite sobering.
      
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      April 1, 2019 10:21pm
- DigNap15
  
  I heard she is going to stop off in Brunei to show off her hijab.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:50am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    Won’t happen, she is a non believer and unmarried mother, very naughty in their shaded eyes.
    Although it is interesting the way they have written legislation, covers believers and non believers.
    They have taken hate speech to a new level, carry a bible on their aircraft, could end up at local rock pit or having a surgical treatment on your arm.
    Only a matter of time and babies before UK surrcumbs to sharia, ticking time bomb.
    You get what you put up with in this world.
    Sharia in my view is very much a medieval legal solution trying to adapt to a modern world, but still barbaric and unacceptable to most of the worlds populations. I can be flogged in Brunei for saying this sitting here, amazing really.
    Solution, I will never travel to Brunei, hopefully we will never succumb or I am in deep do do’s
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:57am
    - Greg Ettridge
      
      Brunei Sharia Law link
      http://www.agc.gov.bn/AGC%20Images/LAWS/Gazette_PDF/2013/EN/syariah%20penal%20code%20order2013.pdf
      
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      April 1, 2019 12:02pm
- burt
  
  Just waiting for the lawnmowers to clear customs. Good news though, the 300 bottles of duty free vodka for the next Labour Youth camp have been cleared.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:58am
BeaB

I am afraid that is going to be the level of the debate, what we heard from Suzy Ferguson this morning – if you don’t oppose what is said you support it.
I groan at the shallow and childish interviewing on Radio NZ.
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April 1, 2019 8:45am
Happychappy

Surely facts should win over political bribes and why should Winston and Shane really have a say as it should be on the benefits to Auckland and NZ not what suits NZ First.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/111639846/an-electoral-doublewhammy-on-auckland-ports-future
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April 1, 2019 8:53am
sooty

Did you see in that newspaper that Max Key is off on his OE.
How on earth, did his mother let him travel like that? His trousers had three holes in them, and the bottom was half way up his shin!
It’s just not a good look, travelling the world a hillbilly, it makes you look like a Labour voter! What’s the customs man going to think when you rock up? Reach for his rubber gloves, is what he’s going to do and the fact that you know Mr Obama and the Queen is not going to save your arse, son! Just remember, I told you so!
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April 1, 2019 8:57am
- barnacle bill
  
  Sooty, your comment is the very reason that many decent National Party supporters cringe when KB is mentioned.
  
  They understand that so many comments on here are obnoxious and do no favours to the Party at all.
  
  In many ways, KB is the Labour Parties best friend.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:13am
  - Tall Man
    
    I can see why post such stupid comments…you just don’t get sarcasm do you?
    
    Key junior will be travelling business or first class and sooty’s tongue was so firmly in his check I think only the real dolts won’t get it.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:51am
    - sooty
      
      It’s april fools day as well.
      Fooled you!
      
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      April 1, 2019 11:45am
      - Tall Man
        
        No you didn’t..I was well on to you 😉
        
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        April 1, 2019 2:30pm
Hugh Pavletich

New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat

… extract …

… In our view there are three big challenges that have to be addressed:

1. A broken system for financing infrastructure

2. A planning system based on urban containment

3. The failure of governments until now, both local and central, to actively work with the private sector to enable urban growth and expansion.

… concluding …

… I talked about the land banking and speculative economy, and the pressure cooker that has given us some of the most obscenely expensive housing in the world.

These moves are designed to change that. …

… If we do these things we can truly flood the market with development opportunities. We can break the land banking economy, and drive down the cost of urban land.

We can achieve more competitive urban land markets. And industry that is more focused on development and building places of enduring value instead of land banking and speculation.

That is the pathway to more affordable housing, and a systemic fix of the crisis that has caused so much hardship, and sucked so much of our national wealth into residential property instead of the productive economy. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Oliver Hartwich says the rest of Phil Twyford’s housing policy is sufficiently ambitious and radical to solve NZ’s housing problems without recourse to KiwiBuild | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/98884/oliver-hartwich-says-rest-phil-twyfords-housing-policy-sufficiently-ambitious-and
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… National Party Leader and Tauranga MP Simon Bridges soon after the release of the Demographia International Housing Survey Monday 21 January … (video) …

Tauranga world’s eighth most unaffordable housing market | Newshub

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/01/tauranga-world-s-eighth-most-unaffordable-housing-market.html
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April 1, 2019 8:58am
waikatogirl

The Queen, soon to be 93, is giving up driving on public roads and will be chauffeured around instead. She will continue to drive around her estates. Queen Elizabeth made the decision after Prince Phillip had his recent accident and gave up his drivers licence. ?
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April 1, 2019 9:14am
- dave_c_
  
  So ? The status quo rolls onward
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:32am
kowtow

Hmmm , so many questions.

“Tens of millions of pounds of British taxpayers’ money was used to fund terrorists including the 7/7 London bombing network and Osama bin Laden through a UK-based scam that spanned two decades.

A two-year investigation by The Sunday Times revealed that a network of British Asians stole billions of pounds of public money through VAT and benefit fraud, topping up their gains with mortgage and credit card fraud.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/31/80m-british-taxpayers-money-funnelled-al-qaeda-decades-long/
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April 1, 2019 9:15am
Yvette

On Saturday evening TV1 News at 6 ran two items on Islam.
The first said –
The past two weeks has seen our nation exposed to the Islamic faith and a culture on a scale not seen before. But many in the [Muslim] community say New Zealanders still don’t have an adequate understanding of their faith.

Two older men – one from Fiji and the other from Bangladesh – looked back on 50 years of living in New Zealand.
The front person suggests prejudice still exists – racism born out of ignorance.

And a young male Victoria University student ends with – “A wise person would say, before judging something, we need to learn” – a lesson in faith and culture (the front person says) these Muslims have long hoped to teach.

And, without pause, there is a cut to the next item:

A Hollywood actor, George Clooney, is calling for a boycott of hotels with links to Brunei after the country announced gay sex and adultery will soon be punishable by death.
From next week those caught in Brunei could face being publicly whipped or stoned. The Asian country adopted Islamic sharia law in 2014.
George Clooney is asking the public to avoid nine Dorchester-Collection Hotels in the UK, the US, France and Italy owned by the Sultan of Brunei.

And into the next item …

Since then, on shari law in Brunei, online media report –
In his capacity as Acting Prime Minister while Jacinda Ardern is in China, Peters issued a statement on Sunday expressing the Government’s disapproval of the law in no uncertain terms.
“It is seriously regrettable that Brunei’s decision contravenes a number of international norms on human rights,” he said.

Former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark called the new penal code “barbaric”.

That’s not a terrorist blowing to pieces a little eight year old girl in the Manchester Arena along with 21 others following an Ariana Grande concert, or Taliban insurgents using another eight-year-old girl carrying a bag of explosives to attack a police checkpost in central Afghanistan, or a truck running down pedestrians in Nice or Stockholm. This is a whole country accepting sharia law The law will also mean those found guilty of robbery could have their hands or feet amputated. Like several other countries, that are Islamic.

But then, if you’ve read any of the Koran and know that where earlier peaceful portions contradict later violent statements, those later texts abrogate the earlier stuff and you realise it does rather exhort an unfriendly disregard toward you if you are, for example, an unbeliever.

And if, on maybe an Auckland bus, you sit next to a woman wearing a headscarf that you perceive is a hijab and so she a Muslim, might you not think “She seems kindly and reasonable, but if so, it is because she either do not herself fully understand her faith as the Koran prescribes – some people reputedly can recite it in Arabic, but not understand a word of it – or is she are enjoying New Zealand life and although displaying all the traits of Islam, do not ultimately believe in it entirely”?

Otherwise might one who is wise, perhaps feel a sense of reserve that you could be collateral damage – either from something she might do, or something some one else may do to her.
Because “Islam will dominate the world” the London protest placards say, and nobody refutes that, so as an unbeliever you may be a little excluded when they gain the population numbers.

Now how does Little want to counter that?

Little plans fast-track review of hate speech laws
“There will be important issues to debate. There will be issues about what limit should be put on freedom of expression and freedom of speech.
“We should reflect on where the lines need to be drawn and therefore, whether the laws should be struck so that they’re effective and provide some protection to people who’re otherwise vulnerable.”
– Justice Minister Andew Little, RNZ, March 30

Whether you are a believer or not may be a Little problem.

Sorry about the length, but feel the depth.
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April 1, 2019 9:15am
- Jules99
  
  I’ve been watching videos on YT from The Apostate Prophet, an ex-Muslim giving a good interpretation of the Koran and other Islamic writings.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:27am
- simpleton1
  
  “a woman wearing a headscarf that you perceive is a hijab and so she a Muslim, might you not think “She seems kindly and reasonable, but if so, it is because she either do not herself fully understand her faith as the Koran prescribes ”
  And so the koran is set out to use that, to gain non knowledgeable, numbers, that will defend innoncently islam.
  Numbers bring power, to that ideology, and an innocence.
  
  [koran] (16:102) Tell them: “It is the spirit of holiness that has brought it down, by stages,103 from your Lord so that it might bring firmness to those who believe,104 and guidance to the Right Way,105 and give glad tidings of felicity and success to those who submit to Allah.”
  
  103. The Holy Spirit: Gibril. Instead of using the name of the angel who brought revelation, his title has been deliberately mentioned to warn the disbelievers that the Holy Spirit who brought revelation is free from human frailties. He is neither dishonest that he should add something to or take away something from the message he brought, nor is he a liar and forger that he should invent and state something in the name of Allah. Nor does he suffer from any human lust that he should practice a deceit. He is wholly pure and holy and conveys the Word of Allah intact.
  
  104. That is, the fact that Allah sends down His message piecemeal does not mean that Allah’s knowledge and wisdom are defective as you consider because of your folly. Allah sends His revelations gradually because human intelligence and capacity to grasp are limited and defective which do not let him understand the whole theme at one and the same time and make it firm in his mind. Therefore, Allah in His wisdom conveyed His revelation piecemeal through the Holy Spirit. He sends a theme gradually and gives its details by and by and uses different methods and ways to make it plain to human beings so that they might grasp it according to their abilities and capabilities and become firm in their faith and knowledge.
  
  105. The second practical wisdom of sending down the Quran piecemeal was that those believers who obediently followed it, should get necessary instructions for the propagation of Islam and the solution of other problems of life at the time when they were actually needed. It is obvious that if those instructions had been sent down before time and at one and the same time they would not have been useful.
  
  106. The third practical wisdom of not sending down the Quran as a whole at one and the same time was to give good tidings and encouragement to the obedient servants who were suffering from persecution and encountering great obstacles because they needed it over and over again. That is why they were assured of ultimate success time and again to fill them with hope to carry on their mission. http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=16&verse=101&to=102
  
  Yet muslims are expected to follow, and defend the “perfect man” often unknowing of all his actions, deeds, sayings, that are revealed and proven by ulama (scholars).
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:05am
- Classic Liberal
  
  ‘Now how does Little want to counter that?’
  
  He doesn’t. And the MSM will never ask him to. Red Radio has completely sold out: no questions about political islam (i.e. islamism), no questions about how essential accepting secularism should be for anyone wanting to live in NZ, no questions about the dangers of restricting free speech and how exempt violent religious texts will be.
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:07am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Is resistance by Christians against Islam hate speech? Is the converse true?
  Both are in full opposition. How can that be legislated against?
  
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  April 1, 2019 1:10pm
mikenmildagain

Fake news organ the New York Times takes another cheap shot at the president:
https://nypost.com/2019/03/30/trump-is-the-worlds-worst-cheat-at-golf-players-and-celebs-say/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Does this really qualify as news? There is no way Trump could be ‘the world’s worst cheat at golf’. Where is the evidence that no one else cheats to the same degree? He’s probably not even the worst cheat in the USA!
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April 1, 2019 9:15am
- SGA
  
  New York Post not Times. Not sure whether that is supposd to make the story less or more believable 🙂
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:00am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I get all these fake news outlets confused. perhaps I should stick to the fair and balanced Fox network.
    
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    April 1, 2019 10:45am
lastmanstanding

Memo to COL

Mid Term Report.

1. Number of promised houses built.. Fail.

2. Number of trees promised planted. Fail.

3. No new Taxes Duties Levies promised. Fail.

4. Planning on introducing CGT when business confidence at lowest level since GFC. Fail.

5. Promised Open and Transparent Government. Fail.

Summary.
Grade D. Must try harder in second term on will be demoted September 2020.

LMS
Head Master
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April 1, 2019 9:21am
Happychappy

It looks and reads that Barry Soper is not overly happy with our Government as it’s not often that he pens columns like this.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12217970
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April 1, 2019 9:45am
- sooty
  
  There’s only so much you can fit in on a 30min lunch date!
  Do you upset them by talking?
  Do you upset them by eating?
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:05am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Speed dating? I guess there is no longer any need for week long junkets,
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:10am
- rightoverlabour
  
  If I was the Chinese premiere the first question I would ask is why she banned the sale of houses to Chinese, but allow Singaporeans to continue…..
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:31am
  - sooty
    
    What happened to the people from Hong Kong,
    Where they allowed to buy houses?
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:41am
- stigie
  
  Barely Sober is just pissed off he never went on the junket, instead it was Tova O’Brien who’s been sucking up to princess and got to go !~
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:17am
Ross12

Will the Greens and all those pushing public transport around the country step up to sort this mess out ? I’m not holding my breath.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111594418/thousands-of-buses-face-cancellation-under-new-legislation-bus-and-coach-association
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April 1, 2019 10:01am
- DigNap15
  
  The best way to fix the buses
  Is to stop running them all except school buses.
  They drive round Tauranga all day empty with their tinted windows.
  Who would want to be a driver.
  “How was your day honey”
  “Great I drove 4 people today”
  
  Save our subsidies
  Drop our rates by $100 a year
  Free up the roads.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:41am
- Rachael Membery
  
  So many unintended consequences, National seemed to hold a good balance.
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:11am
secondcumming

*ATTN* all of you good looking girls out there….
this shows you just can’t be too careful!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12217958
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April 1, 2019 10:03am
- Maggie Pie
  
  WOW – i use Uber quite often to get to and from work. That is sooo scary. I’ll certainly be looking twice in future. Some interestng follow-up comments on the ‘Colombia Police Dept’ twitter link.
  
  https://twitter.com/ColumbiaPDSC/status/1112133439610896384
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:26am
Sacha

I was stopped in my tracks last week when a friend who professes to know a lot about international affairs (she has been on a lot of cruises around the Mediterranean, and buses around Indai and Europem and she religiously watches ‘The News’ on TVNZ) asked me what I meant by ‘the UN Compact on Migration’. She had been lecturing me on our need to accept as many refugees/immigrants as wanted to come for where else could they go?
I think I got her straightened out, but it was a reality check.

BTW – she doesn’t ‘watch’ youtube, lol.
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April 1, 2019 10:09am
- Tall Man
  
  They don’t need to know, “what’s in it for wynston” and his pr girl have decided what is right and you either need to get on board or get on the tracks….so they can roll over you.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:40am
Sacha

Can’t edit the typos. Sorry.
1010.
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April 1, 2019 10:11am
Yvette

You realise white supremacists are historically big into mass murder of the Rainbow community right? If you want to associate an entire race or religion with the way extremists treat minorities you would have to start with people of Western European descent. Wonder why you aren’t – Golriz Ghahraman

New Zealand’s population –
European descent 74%
Māori 14.9 %
Asians 11.8 %
non-Māori Pacific Islanders 7.4 %
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April 1, 2019 10:26am
- Tall Man
  
  That would qualify as hate speech don’t you think?
  
  When is the assistant to “what’s in it for wynston” going to either sort her own coalition out or ask the green co leader to step in…oh wait, the non male co leader of the greens is just as much a rabid racist as this little idiot.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:37am
- Ross12
  
  Who will condemn comments like, as they should be? Lets see who in the media is first to do so —will never happen.
  
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  April 1, 2019 10:38am
  - alloytoo
    
    what are waiting for, report her to human rights commission.
    
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    April 1, 2019 11:29am
    - Ross12
      
      You are joking aren’t you alloytoo ? They would sweep a report “under the carpet” as fast as they could.
      
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      April 1, 2019 2:56pm
- Komata
  
  Very interesting.
  
  The lady is either wilfully blind or doesn’t see the contradiction.
  
  I wonder which it might be?
  
  The MSM and the race relations person will, as usual, let it pass.
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:55am
DigNap15

Wage rise and more impositions on business today 1st April.
Domestic Violence leave!
I hope this is reflected in the next Business Confidence survey
Prices and rents will go up and we are worse off as our exports are dearer, and no longer required.
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April 1, 2019 10:43am
Cunningham

Why is Ardern only going to China for a day rather than the original schedule which i think was 3 or 4 days? I get we had an attack in Christchurch but we have had many services and a memorial service on Friday. Why does she still need to be here because of the attack? It just makes no sense to me, the relationship with China is important and it has taken a hit since this government came in, she just doesn’t seem to give a shit about it at all.
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April 1, 2019 10:50am
- brett68
  
  You’ll probably find the real reason is that’s all the time they would give her.
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:11am
- Rachael Membery
  
  In a rush to get back for question time tomorrow?
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:19am
  - sooty
    
    Nah! Off to kindy tomorrow. I bet you!
    
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    April 1, 2019 12:11pm
- Happychappy
  
  Let’s face it China is a lot different than ChristChurch and there won’t be the accolades from the Chinnese media about what has happened at home, so she has to get home to be able to set a agenda for the media on what she does well and that doesn’t include being prudent at her ability to run the day today day problems of the NZ Economy.
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:38am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Apparently the Chinese are not kind to their Muslims. She is expected to bring it up. Will she?
    
    Has Jacinda set herself up for a big fail, now that she has been touted as a saviour for Muslims worldwide?
    
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    April 1, 2019 1:29pm
- Yvette
  
  Why does she still need to be here because of the attack?
  
  Did all of Ardern’s speech writers go with her to China, and do none remain here to provide stand-in Winston with the same facility?
  
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  April 1, 2019 12:31pm
Ross12

Interesting bit of data and also very interesting to see how the data is collected.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-31/34-michigan-trump-rally-attendees-were-registered-democrats-parscale
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April 1, 2019 11:04am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Were they there to disrupt or change sides?
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:27am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I don’t think that we would like to be categorised like that, by phone number and political persuasion as if it was mandated.
    
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    April 1, 2019 2:36pm
- sooty
  
  They came,
  they listerned.
  They may changed ther vote.
  Most of them had not voted recently.
  Not for Hillary anyway!
  Why didn’t they like her?
  
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  April 1, 2019 11:35am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Do you think Trump can run on not being Hillary Clinton in 2020? Lockerup!!!
    
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    April 1, 2019 12:38pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Do you really think that comment makes sense to anyone with more than a couple of brain cells?
      
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      April 1, 2019 2:27pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      There’ll be calls to change the law, if he locks up all the swamp rats.
      To give him 2 more terms.
      
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      April 1, 2019 4:41pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        How do you think such a constitutional amendment might get passed?
        
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        April 1, 2019 5:50pm
Inandout

The Russian collusion story has fallen flat, so now CNN and MSNBC have been instructed to run stories on Obamacare. Their viewership is tanking but they won’t give up. It is almost as if they are arms of the Democrat Party.
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April 1, 2019 12:44pm
Happychappy

Nine people killed on our roads today is a tragedy and should not be happening in this day and age. We were led to believe by this Goverment that this should not happen and their goal was zero deaths on our roads, maybe their condemnation of National building better roads was not fallacy and maybe we do need better roads to stop this very serious problem.
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April 1, 2019 1:22pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I emailed Genter this morning that two of the recent deaths were on a planned road of National Significance.
  Make her feel responsible for each death on those roads.
  
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  April 1, 2019 2:35pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    If you are talking Auckland – Whangarei 4 lane, the cost would be a piffling $6bn …. not sure if it hits the NZTA cost/benefit stuff. And if you want to ignore that I guess there is not much anyone can say ….
    
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    April 1, 2019 6:20pm
- kowtow
  
  People really do need to start taking their driving seriously.
  
  How many drivers do you see on their phones ? It’s a huge problem and one that drivers’ themselves need to take responsibility for.
  
  And enforcement.
  
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  April 1, 2019 3:03pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    The crash north of Taupo:
    6 people in a 5 seater car, some of them not wearing seat belts.
    Hard to legislate for stupidity.
    
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    April 1, 2019 5:17pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Will the Prime Minister turn up for work tomorrow dressed in a road cone?
  
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  April 1, 2019 6:08pm
- Rob2
  
  Where’s Genter with her great knowledge of roading?
  
  Like The Twitter Twyford, missing in action.
  
  Hopeless.
  
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  April 1, 2019 7:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The good news is that the Politically Uncorrect amongst us have time to prepare for our “outing”.

I imagine hubby can cope for a few years living on take-aways and his hard-as-rocks scones if I get whisked away to some re-education camp.

I might miss the cats for a day or two.. and I’ll fret that blackberry and tree privet are overwhelming my gardens… but I’ll look forward to having someone else preparing 3 square meals/day for me.

I trust I’ll be allowed to take some study… might see if I can complete my BA…. shouldn’t be any trouble in taking some Te Reo and Feminist issues papers.
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April 1, 2019 2:23pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Here’s something that will confuse them: wear a rainbow outfit and claim you’re ‘bi’. Their heads are going to explode with the problems they’re creating right now by criminalising criticism of various opposing ideologies and cultures.
  
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  April 1, 2019 3:32pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Indeed..
    as the Left have discovered in the UK.
    Either they are for the rights of each and every person…
    or they are for the rights of select groups only.
    
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    April 1, 2019 5:43pm
Rachael Membery

Will we be allowed to have April Fool’s jokes next year? Looks like a Western invention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day
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April 1, 2019 2:23pm
krazykiwi

Regarding AOC, a blogger said she reminds him of Piano Man by Billy Joel:

… and the waitress is practicing politics …
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April 1, 2019 2:28pm
- Fletch
  
  So is the chippie….
  
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  April 1, 2019 6:35pm
buzzler

I just read an interesting article about the Pike River re entry. Apparently they are filling the drift with Nitrogen at present to remove the methane, which was at 90% level. The explosive range for methane is 5-15%. I then assumed that the people entering the drift would don breathing apparatus while the nitrogen was still being pumped in, as the atmosphere would not be explosive and safe to enter. But to my astonishment they are going to turn off the nitrogen before entry and flood the drift with air so that the people entering will not need to wear breathing apparatus. This sounds like a recipe for disaster, especially if methane starts to build up again.
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April 1, 2019 2:34pm
- Poppa
  
  That could be one hell of bang!
  
  Is Peters still going in or has he already been in? I thought he said he would go in the day after the election but no doubt he forgot about that.
  
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  April 1, 2019 3:14pm
- burt
  
  I was thinking the same, it sounds like a perfect recipe for an explosive mix.
  
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  April 1, 2019 3:37pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Boom. Hopefully, the right politicians will be there…. (on the outside, of course, I would never advocate…..).
  
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  April 1, 2019 6:33pm
Rachael Membery

Are men at a disadvantage not being able to wear makeup when they are in the public eye?
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April 1, 2019 2:34pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Better check with Jordan Peterson.
  
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  April 1, 2019 2:56pm
  - stigie
    
    One would be better to check with you Milky with your outstanding knowledge of such things..?
    
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    April 1, 2019 3:32pm
RW Capitalist

Well…..media publicity does work
Came home from the Phoenix game (not bad 4-1)
and
Near where I live
There was the first booze testing stop I’d seen in perhaps a year.
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April 1, 2019 4:38pm
JibberJabber

Twyford dodging and ducking,
https://twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/1112536590994137089

He can run but he can`t hide, not with Crusher on his case.
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April 1, 2019 4:42pm
Happychappy

If you listen to the Winston laying down the law on what’s going to happen with gun laws and blaming everybody else except them selves over business confidence you could just about say yes getting close to being a dictator.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12218242
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April 1, 2019 4:56pm
- RF
  
  I understand the gangs are shaking in their boots as Peters has warned them they must hand in their illegal weapons otherwise they are breaking the law.
  
  FFS is he still sleeping and dreaming this.
  
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  April 1, 2019 6:32pm
krazykiwi

300 Swedish nationals left the country to fight with ISIS.

50 are thought to have been killed.

100 are still in the region.

150 have returned ‘home’ to resume their lives.

Lovely. What could possibly go wrong?
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April 1, 2019 5:01pm
- cmm
  
  So 150×72 = 10800 “prizes” needed in Sweden.
  
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  April 1, 2019 6:25pm
RF

I have a serious issues concerning the direction this communist Govt is taking.

Rather than risk the wrath of our host by stating that Ardern has difficulty with the truth I am reminded by a phrase uttered by Winston Churchill.

“Terminological inexactitude”.

Basically it means a lie or untruth.

In parliamentary terms it is not good form to accuse another member of lying.

If the cap fits, wear it.

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April 1, 2019 5:37pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  When you write about a Communist government, are you referring to some particular part of the world, like China or North Korea?
  
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  April 1, 2019 5:48pm
  - Tall Man
    
    As a public servant, the disaster this government wants to inflict on our country will damage you and yours first.
    
    Those of us that currently hold the wealth will become a target but those like yourself are a dime a dozen and will be grist for the mill.
    
    Only those at the top of the pile will get the baubkles and you mikey, are way below that.
    
    In most socialist societies the wealthy become part of the elite, you mikey do not.
    
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    April 1, 2019 6:53pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Basically it means a lie or untruth.
  As do these:
  
  Substitute assertions
  Fact-less fact-based evidence
  Auxiliary accounts
  Half true half-truths
  Diverging declarations
  
  and my favourites:
  Greenpeace adds that its attacks on Resolute “are without question non-verifiable statements of subjective opinion and at most non-actionable rhetorical hyperbole.”
  https://business.financialpost.com/news/greenpeace-admits-its-attacks-on-forest-products-giant-were-non-verifiable-statements-of-subjective-opinion
  
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  April 1, 2019 6:26pm
  - nasska
    
    “Nothing has to be true forever. Just for long enough.”
    ― Terry Pratchett, The Truth
    
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    April 1, 2019 6:46pm
    - sooty
      
      But the feelz, don’t forget the feelz!
      
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      April 1, 2019 8:56pm
RF

Just watched TV.

Why is Arderns boyfriend part of the Royal meet and greet party ?

Has he an official status for this junket.
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April 1, 2019 6:10pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Gee, some snowflakes really are triggered by the smallest things.
  
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  April 1, 2019 7:29pm
- sooty
  
  Yep!
  He’s the boyfriend!
  That’s it!
  Everyother partner/wife/husband in the world stands behind!
  But not our Clarke!
  He’s elevated himself to King Kunuck!
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:55pm
nasska

Although I enjoy a spot of fishing I reckon that I’d rather sail round Cape Horn under Captain Bligh than set foot in a boat with these two characters:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12215644

One of them or an unlucky crew-mate will end up as groundbait! 🙂
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April 1, 2019 6:32pm
Fletch

Just heard on the 1 News, that liberals don’t want our NZ defense Force practicing the dropping of bombs. I guess they’d rather we don’t do it. That’s what our defense force is for FFS.
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April 1, 2019 6:33pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I thought guys like you didn’t watch One News.
  
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  April 1, 2019 7:27pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It certainly isn’t there to protect democracy and freedom of speech in this country, that’s for sure.
  
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  April 1, 2019 8:23pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111688527/vendors-claim-real-estate-agent-acted-inappropriately-in-helping-buyer-flip-house

I had a feeling when I first saw this headline that there would be a certain set of names involved.

And I was right.
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April 1, 2019 7:25pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Now here’s a wee conflict coming up on the horizon….
No scattering of ashes on waterways as it is offensive to the Tangata whenua
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/386095/auckland-council-push-back-on-iwi-calls-to-ban-scattering-ashes

But Sikhs like to scatter ashes over flowing water
https://www.funeralzone.co.uk/help-resources/arranging-a-funeral/religious-funerals/sikh-funerals
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April 1, 2019 7:45pm
Inandout

How can anyone dispute that Mark Levin has excellent guests at times?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npzn8hFTluo
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April 1, 2019 8:38pm
Rachael Membery

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12218204

What is the paper trying to achieve by publishing this on their banner?
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