General Debate 10 April 2019

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secondcumming

*Kim Dotcom* takes a cheap shot at Mike Hosking, accusing him of being “…..an uneducated and corrupt deep state apologist, who has never delivered anything of journalistic value”

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1115051815572103170

GO GET ‘IM MIKE 😎
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April 10, 2019 8:07am
- Tall Man
  
  I’m sure he will wear that “slur” as a badge of honour….
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:29am
- Simon
  
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  Intellectual starvation is a side effect of consuming news media in New Zealand. The lack of investigative journalism and sophisticated reporting has an impact on the IQ points of Kiwis. Consuming NZ media neuron trash is like injecting your brain with concentrated stupidity.
  
  Kimdotcom got this one right. He has hit outta the park.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:35am
  - harvey wilson
    
    If he had actually made a comment about the state of NZ media he’d be right . The depressing thing is that Hosking is actually in the upper tier of Nz journos .
    John Campyfir example was having BSA complaints for dishonesty upheld long after his dumpster fire of a show was taken off air. His interviews with Turei and Brown represent journalism at its lowest ebb.
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:47am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Campbell who is another commenter I do not trust, now appears to be reading the 6pm news on TV1 with Wendy Peachy. Simon Dallow may be away on leave.
      
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      April 10, 2019 9:16am
      - harvey wilson
        
        You are right to not trust him , he has a history of being dishonest and only telling one side of the story.
        
        The idea his show was taken off the air due to the head of tv3 being friends with Key is patently absurd, his show was awful and viewers were dropping off every year .
        
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        April 10, 2019 10:08am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Both me and my partner stoped watching TV3 years ago because of Campbell. God only knows what we’re going to watch now 🙁
        
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        April 10, 2019 10:11am
      - pdm
        
        Maggie Pie – ditto for us.
        
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        April 10, 2019 10:27am
      - sooty
        
        Easily fixed!
        Watch an other channel.
        Or better still, turn the bloody thin off!
        
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        April 10, 2019 11:13am
      - Jax30
        
        Sky news on Channel 85 has some good commentators.
        The Outsiders on Sundays 11-1 is great. They get stuck in to as they call it The Left Leaning Lunacy.
        Also The Bolt Report, Hardgreave and Jones and Co all worth a look
        
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        April 10, 2019 12:51pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Netflix….”After Life”.
        
        Well worth the effort.
        
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        April 10, 2019 2:42pm
  - Overworked
    
    I’d give consideration to your comment if it wasn’t so ungrammatical as to be incoherent.
    
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    April 10, 2019 1:58pm
    - Tall Man
      
      “Smack”.
      
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      April 10, 2019 2:43pm
- ducklin71
  
  That fat bastage should be in a US prison picking up soap in the shower.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:47am
- John Warren
  
  Kim Dotcom – that’s the big bloke with no credibility, right?
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:22am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Yeah the guy who should probably keep an eye on Princess Leia next time he takes her out on his pleasure barge in the desert .
    
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    April 10, 2019 11:38am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Actually read the twitter thread , it’s staggering how many people in the #metoo era can tie themselves in knots defending Assange despite the fact he’s wanted on rape charges .
      
      The same people quite happily condemn Kavanaugh I bet.
      
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      April 10, 2019 12:20pm
Scott

I don’t know if anyone still reads the NZ Listener but it’s coverage of Trump has been something for the ages. This is a letter I penned to the listener following their latest diatribe from their resident Trump hater – Paul Thomas.
However the same would apply to all our national media which has been wrong about president Trump for the last two years –

“The Mueller report found that there was no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. That’s the central charge – that Trump is a Manchurian candidate who is a traitor to his country and conspired with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton.

And after a 2 year $25 million investigation what did they find? Nothing. No collusion, no conspiracy.
And in the absence of a crime how can the president obstruct justice when he has done nothing wrong?

So Thomas should apologise in my view. He has been a constant fan of the Mueller investigation and has provided Listener readers with the most biased coverage of an American president in the history of the magazine.

And there is never any balance so Listener readers are none the wiser when Trump likely gets reelected in 2020. Why will half the country vote for someone who is so horrible according to the writings of Paul Thomas? To find out why Trump got so many votes the Listener reader will sadly have to look elsewhere.

Paul Thomas has no idea why anybody would vote for Trump? Listener readers deserve better coverage. Thomas has been wrong for two years. It’s time for a change. “
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April 10, 2019 8:12am
- Simon
  
  Too far gone. The Russiangaters brains have been fried. Mental illness.
  
  Its like a hobo on a park bench who pisses himself while sleep. Asking the hobo to apologize for pissing in public. Same deal.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:40am
- fernglas
  
  The view that there has to be a predicate crime before one can obstruct justice is not the law in New Zealand, and it is not settled law in the US, but highly debatable.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I don’t know if anyone still reads the NZ Listener
  I stopped reading it when Ian Gordon’s “A Word in your Ear” columns finished (sometime back in the 1980s?)
  Have I missed anything?
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:44am
  - Bill felt
    
    Ian Gordan’s book “A Word in Your Ear” is a brilliant book. Makes a great xmas present for almost anyone.
    Re: Listener – isn’t that an instruction manual for socialists?
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:03am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    No really. You may be better informed by retaining you subscription to the Beano or reading the Daily Sport on line, at least you know they are totally fictitious
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:34am
- SGA
  
  “The Mueller report found that there was no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. That’s the central charge – that Trump is a Manchurian candidate who is a traitor to his country and conspired with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton.
  
  Not exactly, Scott. There were never any “charges”; it was a general investigation of allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. That was its overall purpose. Yes, its scope did include allegations that there were links or coordination between Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and the Russian government (and “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation”).
  FWIW, I’ve grown tired of Paul Thomas’s weekly pieces about Trump, and I am no Trump fanboy.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:47am
- Inandout
  
  MSM journalists have been described as ‘living in a bubble’ by smart media people. Observers who have half a brain take most media reports as the guff it is, because balance is a rare find. Simply reading a Saturday edition of either Herald or Dompost (broadsheet) is like an AOC or Adern press release. Page after page of left wing sewage.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:14am
- Durden
  
  Why only Paul Thomas ? Even that blowhard Privacy Commisioner Edwards was on RNZ, this week, saying Facebook allowed Russians to influence elections.
  
  Maybe he has been living in the same echo-chamber and has not read about the Mueller report.
  
  I am finding the link between his job as privacy commissioner and his crusade against Facebook quiet tenuous.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:56am
- John Warren
  
  Here is one of the grand inconsistencies of the lefty campaign against hate speech. Anyone can vomit the worst kind of bile all over Donald Trump, incessantly, but I won’t be allowed to say I dislike Muslims.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:25am
- Sacha
  
  The Listener is a tragedy. I was given a subscription 18 months ago after not having read the magazine for a decade or more. It was awful – full of happy-clappy-new-age-greeny-of-all-shades, stuff. Most weeks it remained unopened in it’s plastic envelope. I declined another gift sub.
  And didn’t I see a ‘subscribe for $6’ somewhere last week?
  It’s dying.
  
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  April 10, 2019 1:06pm
fernglas

The best part about the Brexit debacle is that it has made Australian government look competent and wiped Trump off the front pages
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April 10, 2019 8:18am
- freethinker
  
  It has also exposed the UK Deep state headed by [Deleted; Mod] May who by delaying Brexit has created a constitutional crisis as the Binding Referendum is unable to be changed by inferior legislation which the change wasn’t legislation as it was not voted through the Commons or Lords. A retired Court of Appeal Judge considers the move probably void which means the UK may have already left the Evil Union.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:31am
  - Ross12
    
    The way it is going freethinker , it looks like real Brexit success will be dependent on that legal case. Cooper’s Bill has been rubber stamped by the HOL and the Queen.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:14am
    - freethinker
      
      Didn’t know that – thanks.
      
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      April 10, 2019 10:14am
  - MickMac
    
    I hope so….
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:36am
- waikatogirl
  
  What is Theresa thinking looking for support from that anti-Brexit, awful Marxist Jeremy Corbin. I am beginning to lose complete faith that Britain will walk away from the EU. Looking more like a facepalm every day.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:39am
Paulus

It is one of the saddest things I have seen in my 60 years in New Zealand – the cancellation of many of the ANZAC Day parades.
The gunman has won !
When our Princess speaks at both the Auckland parade and again in Wellington I will be ashamed as I am sure she will promote herself to be the most self righteous person in our country (and hypocritical).
Sad. Sad. Sad, – what have we become using the lack of police to be responsible for these event cancellations ?
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April 10, 2019 8:20am
- Poppa
  
  I too am upset by this, it is disgraceful.
  
  Shall we cancel rugby matches as well?
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:34am
  - alien
    
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    And why are you upset.
    
    It does not matter where you pay your respect and remember those who gave their lives and served this country, all that matters is you do. Too many of you are focused on a location and not what the day is about.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:05am
  - MickMac
    
    no, plenty of Police for those events.
    few of them and easy to Police.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:37am
  - freethinker
    
    Best cancel Parliament – 18 months would do.
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:16am
    - Tall Man
      
      It already is, they just turn up for show.
      
      Nothing in the debating chamber leads to anything these days.
      
      jones could take a dump on the speaker’s chair and nothing would be done.
      
      Had Sir John Key been under attack over, curran, hardcore, sroubek, handley, haumaha and so on the media would be hounding him on a daily basis.
      
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      April 10, 2019 2:47pm
- wreck1080
  
  Do you say the terrorists have won because we take off our shoes at the airport? Not at all.
  
  We can still travel, we can still attend anzac day parades … it is a bit harder than before but we still persevere in the face of evil extremists.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:38am
  - sooty
    
    If she is speaking, it’s time to go to another one!
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:44am
    - sooty
      
      What’s the chances of it been an ANZAC pararade like no other, with Cindy there. Extra police presents, six gun on the hip, long guns carried, snipers on the rooftops, drones in the sky. She’s going to drone on about ChCh and guns which is not why they are there for. Bet you a muslim prayer or two. You think the RSA has rolled over and will show it’s belly! It will be all about her, along with Clarke and the baby. News hacks willb be fighting over who gets to push the baby, with no face!
      
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      April 10, 2019 8:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    He may not have won but he is certainly on the winning side at the moment.
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:56am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Actually yes. Airline safety checks are nothing but security theatre. I could probably (being a creative technical sort) bring down a plane with things I could get through security. Also motivated attackers can hide enough explosives within their body to bring down an airliner and there is nothing short of unacceptably intrusive full body x-rays that can reveal them. Passengers would never allow another 9/11 type hijacking to occur.
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:24am
  - toby1845
    
    By “evil extremists”, do you mean the CoL? Or the Marxist meddlers in the Police?
    
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    April 10, 2019 1:04pm
  - tavita
    
    I do think the terrorists have won every time I queue to go through security at the airport. What a huge waste of time and resources. I do think Tarrant has won when an insane act by one person can be used unleash a raft of restrictions and prohibitions on the entire nation.
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:11pm
- alien
  
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  No the gunman hasn’t won. It’s a once of thing, it will be back to normal next year. What we know this week is a man was arrested with illegal firearms and a home made bomb. A student was in court who planned a school shooting. For one time only we’re not being asked to not go to an Anzac event, we’re simply being asked to go to where they can make sure people are safe. I’m sure all those who fought for this country would want the safety of the public always first.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    So, on the assumption that the police fear a revenge attack, your assertion is that the people who may or may not make this attack have short memories…
    
    As I said to you before, some of these people are fighting a “war” that started over 700 hundred years ago so 12 months is a blink of an eye to them.
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:54am
    - MickMac
      
      Tall Man
      
      Dates are important to them, very important.
      
      The anniversary of the event is a potential target for decades.
      As is any past Victory, to use it as a date to abrogate the awful event against their people.
      
      So 5 eyes will have to suck harder!
      
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      April 10, 2019 9:39am
    - alien
      
      Yeah which is why nz likely wont be a target from this event, aussie will. It is just our self grown copy cat nutters that are the worry
      
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      April 10, 2019 11:19am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s not a “once off “. Last year when the soap dodgers were in Wellington for an anti defence conference , or some such , the cops told a militaria auction they couln’t guarantee safety and the event was canned .
    
    Elf and Safety being used for Police convenience and of course organisers want to co operate and not be seen to endanger particpants.
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/341525/militaria-auction-cancelled-on-police-advice
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:08am
    - alien
      
      It is a once off, I guarantee you next year all anzac events will be back to normal. Btw it was the RSA that went to the police to ask their advice, not the police telling them to cancel them.
      
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      April 10, 2019 11:00am
      - Tall Man
        
        And what was the “advice” they received?
        
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        April 10, 2019 2:54pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The Police reaction seems overly vigorous as though they are enjoying the opportunity for dress ups with full weapons on display.
    Tarrant’s writings show a sole deluded megalomaniac not an armed leader of other militants. Who could follow his peculiar thought patterns adequately to become a follower?
    
    Is a risk perceived of Muslim retaliation?
    Is Ardern feeling that something must be done? Can her govt survive if Tarrant’s aim for general disharmony is not promoted? Feelingz rule the PM.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:59am
    - MickMac
      
      i’m thinking, they and SIS know that, but it”s all good training right now and v reassuring for some in the community.
      plus good optics for COL.
      
      thats why National mum…
      
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      April 10, 2019 10:45am
- hullkiwi
  
  Paulus, you are so right. Listening to Morning Report after 7am, they had Ferguson interviewing the Presidents of the Auckland and Christchurch Districts of the RSA. You couldn’t get 2 more contrasting views of the world, and the classic comment came from the Christchurch President, who ended with,
  
  “If we changes our lives one little bit, there will be a guy in Paremoremo laughing his head off, because he will have won”.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:43am
- Tall Man
  
  The lack of responses clearly shows there is no adequate response to that.
  
  🙁
  
  Or slow modersation….. 🙁
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:52am
- kevn
  
  @Paulus… I reckon the gunman has achieved the exact opposite to what he had hoped for.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I feel a bit sorry for the kids. They know why they are there, but they will now not understand the cancellations. I refer to the Scouts, Sea Cadets, Guides, Pipins who are always there at my local hall
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:49am
- rightoverlabour
  
  I don’t understand why they don’t mobilise the Military for this. This is a good use of these resources and a valuable training exercise. When South Africa went the polls in 1994 you couldn’t move without seeing thousands of soldiers, and the elections which went for 5 days were peaceful, successful and generally without incident. No terrorist ( from either side of the political spectrum) with half a brain would have tried anything as the response would have been immediate and overpowering.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:41am
- lastmanstanding
  
  The Left have long been looking for a way to wipe out ANZAC Day. They regard it as irrelevant and glorifying wars and now that all the WW1 vets are gone and only a handful of the WW2 vets are left they are hoping to consign it to the dust bin.
  
  The Left hate nationalism as the UN is the only governance structure we should be following.
  
  This is just an excuse to get rid of ANZAC Day.
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:22am
- mic
  
  As Nz’ers we should feel ashamed at the way these Anzac Day parades have been cancelled, on advice of NZ Police. How pitiful these senior police officers have become. Makes me bloody angry. That one mad gunman’s evil act can make some people in this nation react this way is giving him a victory. In my opinion we should have MORE parades and show the strength that the Anzacs did and not cower down like cowards.
  
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  April 10, 2019 1:44pm
- Nutta
  
  If the police can’t keep ANZAC parades safe, what chance for safety at the next General Election? So many polling places, so few police…
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:28pm
waikatogirl

Good morning all, another beautiful day in the Waikato. No rain in sight. Maybe tomorrow?

Look who I found while poking around the internet last night. Holysheet of the “Simon and Cindy” parable and daily jokes has found a new home. Check out the name of the blog “You Stupid Boy” or ysb. ? Looks like another good option for supporting the fight for free speech in NZ.

https://ysb.co.nz/
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April 10, 2019 8:24am
- Komata
  
  Waikatogirl
  
  No rain, but it’s a lot cooler.
  
  Thank you for bringing ysb to our attention, and for confirming HS’s continued existence.
  
  It’s appreciated,
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:38am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Brilliant morning here….
  Wonder if it’s too early to start pruning all the bloody roses?
  
  I like the layout of Holysheet’s site…
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:53am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Yes, looks good Maggy. Nice and bright. Don’t ask me about roses, I always kill mine!
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:00am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Looks promising… I have registered.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:08am
  - mic
    
    Metoo.
    
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    April 10, 2019 1:55pm
- Dave Mann
  
  Thanks for the heads up waikatogirl. I’ll have a read. This blog has more or less died, with only 38 comments on HD after nearly an hour and a half.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:24am
- freethinker
  
  Signed up and posted – Thanks WG
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:20am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Having drizzle since 2 pm
  
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  April 10, 2019 5:43pm
- Rob2
  
  done
  
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  April 10, 2019 7:15pm
freethinker

No news on the Labour Sex Pervert case set down for hearing in the North Shore District Court mid March, has it been delayed, moved to another court, or tried and the result suppressed or perhaps the Po lice Kommisars have done another dirty Little deal with Labour. Do the MSM not read Kiwiblog, perhaps they can’t read, they certainly can’t spell and Grammar – probably think thats an elderly relative.
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April 10, 2019 8:26am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Chuck Bird – have you heard anything?
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:38am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Chuck has gone.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:29am
- burt
  
  What about the charges of supplying alcohol to minors ?
  
  If I had a party at my house like that and it ended in covered up sexual assaults I’d almost certainly also be charged with supply of alcohol to minors.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:40am
  - MickMac
    
    Burt
    Did they even have a liscence and a manager?
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:41am
    - burt
      
      Details like this, that for most clubs or organisations mean the difference between facing criminal convictions or not – never seem to apply to the Labour party.
      
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      April 10, 2019 10:52am
      - sooty
        
        What’s the bet that they do now!
        
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        April 10, 2019 11:26am
- Prince
  
  The MSM is too busy taking cheap shots at National, eg some junior reporter Benedict Collins on the news last night.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:51am
- srylands
  
  Before he was disappeared, ztev insisted that it would never get to trial, in exchange for the alleged perpetrator pleading guilty to a lesser charge. I guess with name suppression.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:59am
  - burt
    
    It wood seem ztev being well connected to Labour knows something we wood’nt.
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:54am
- krazykiwi
  
  The Young Labour wikipedia page has a section about this incident. A good deal of the paragraph is spend running interference for Jacinda —
  
  The Labour Party itself was aware of the allegations, but failed to tell the Prime Minister
  
  It goes on to say the trial has been set down for July 22, 2019.
  
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  April 10, 2019 12:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If you check the Edit history of that site you can see that the new trial date information was provided on the morning after the previously reported trial date (18 March 2019).
    
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    April 10, 2019 1:25pm
- namron
  
  This morning I emailed Andrew Little [Minister of Police etc] asking for an update on the Labour Party Youth camp trial and also emailed my MP Anne Tolley for any information she had, but neither have replied – so far.
  Perhaps if others emailed their MP and some pressure was placed on MPs, something might emerge.
  Doesn’t the “SILENCE” make you believe even more that the “SILENCE” would not be there if this had happened at a National Party Youth camp?
  Any other suggestions for squeezing out the facts is very welcome!!
  namron
  
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  April 10, 2019 4:26pm
Lipo

I am confused regarding the cancellation of a number of ANZAC day marches.
I did not think there were that many white supremacists that would attack a ANZAC day parade
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April 10, 2019 8:30am
- wreck1080
  
  I think authorities are concerned about islamic reprisal attacks.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:35am
  - alien
    
    After arresting a man with a home made bomb, a teenager planning to go on a school shooting, they are concerned about a lot
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:43am
    - MickMac
      
      Glad they got them…
      
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      April 10, 2019 9:43am
      - alien
        
        Yeah, let’s hope there is no one else to get, but I have a feeling we will hear of more arrests.
        
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        April 10, 2019 10:48am
  - Lipo
    
    Well listening to the media I got the impression that we only have a white supremacist problem and not an islamic problem
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:56am
    - DigNap15
      
      With well over 50,000 of them here, we wil soon have a big muslim problem, wait fro their demands, as well as their attacks.
      And their dole bludgery as in Europe.
      
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      April 10, 2019 10:56am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Has Jacinda ‘saved’ us or has she put a target on our backs?
        
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        April 10, 2019 5:53pm
  - ducklin71
    
    I think the authorities are bunch of pussies. Show some spine NZ! What about the brave soldiers we are supposed to honour on Anzac Day? They will be spinning in their graves. Shameful!
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:05am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    It’s okay, it will only be by a lone wolf.
    
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    April 10, 2019 3:43pm
- fernglas
  
  Revenge attacks by Muslims on marching ex-soldiers who are commemorating the invasion of a Moslem country are not beyond the realms of possibility
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:38am
  - kowtow
    
    Gallipoli peninsula was Greek , till the Ottomans cleared them out in a genocide.
    
    Asia Minor was Christian till the Seljuk Turks invaded from Central Asia.
    
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    April 10, 2019 8:45am
    - MickMac
      
      Kowtow
      How could you?
      Religion of peace is the narrative… 🙂
      
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      April 10, 2019 9:42am
  - DigNap15
    
    Not only that but I was waiting for some attacks by muslims on New Zealand well before this.
    Its happened in every other western country that lets them in.
    If we did not have any muslims in NZ we would not have potential problems like this.
    And we would save a lot of money on security costs.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:01am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      About 40 Islamists on the SIS watch list out of a population of just 46000 Muslims in NZ. So about one in 1000 muslims in NZ are considered a security threat, or about 1 in 500 muslim males as female muslim terrorists are rare. We had a few home grown jihadists (including converts) head to Syria to get in on a bit of rape and killing-in-the-name-of-Allah, another wannabe who was caught in planning stages of an attack in chch in 2017, and another attempt to bring down a plane by a Somali Muslim immigrant in 2008. We obviously already have a significant Muslim terrorist problem in NZ which is not surprising given that in western countries about 15-35% of Muslims are sometimes ok with or generally supportive of Islamic terrorism. To my view that is the BIG problem with inviting them into NZ and the west – those very common Muslim views are abhorrent They provide a net of approval that tacitly supports and fosters individual barbarism and are just not compatible with living in the west.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_toward_terrorism
      
      Outside of the aussie chch attack and some idiot maori separatists in the Ureweras really no other terrorist issues of note in NZ. In that context chch really was a black-swan event that was very much against the run-of-play.
      
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      April 10, 2019 11:08am
  - The King
    
    If you read darkweb muslim forums, this is not a case of if, but when.
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:02am
- burt
  
  I though the problem was that men and woman may mingle as equals?
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:41am
mikenmildagain

Happy Siblings Day!
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April 10, 2019 8:34am
- waikatogirl
  
  Sibling Day! You can have one of mine. She’s defective! ?
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:47am
  - Tall Man
    
    Sounds like they’d be a perfect fit. 😉
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:01am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Waikatogirl, I’ll add my sister, with your defective sibling.
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:10am
  - Nermal
    
    Mine lives in Australia. We get along fine as long as he stays there
    
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    April 10, 2019 3:35pm
- SGA
  
  Oh brother, you never give up.
  
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  April 10, 2019 8:50am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  http://weknowmemes.com/2012/11/there-can-be-only-one-baby/
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:11am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Maggy, Where did you get that photo of my sister!!! She does love the limelight. ?
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:21am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Ha, ha…
      
      We’ve got an old home movie clip of my hubby walking his younger sister into the middle of Church St, P.N. and ordering her to stay there as he runs away.
      
      I had older brothers….Life in the Jungle… a daily struggle for survival.
      
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      April 10, 2019 11:09am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      You sound like my sister lol
      
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      April 10, 2019 8:04pm
  - mandk
    
    Infants are always trying to kill one another.
    
    Fortunately, the aggressors generally lack the necessary strength, and the victims are pretty resilient.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:51am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      My sibling attacked me in the womb.
      
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      April 10, 2019 10:26am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        and that, explains all sorts of things, pwd.
        
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        April 10, 2019 1:35pm
      - Tall Man
        
        What PG said…..
        
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        April 10, 2019 2:35pm
Komata

Lipo@0830

There aren’t, but those who would be most likely to will never be mentioned.

It’s all about Control and Agenda…
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April 10, 2019 8:41am
kowtow

Who knew monuments make you racist . You’re witnessing the latest manouvres in a new cultural revolution.

‘Why Dunedin? What is it about this city that led a right-wing lunatic psychopath to think that he would be more at home here than in another city in New Zealand? Is it the prevalence of monuments to our white colonialist history?’

https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/time-give-racism-no-oxygen-anymore
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April 10, 2019 8:47am
- The King
  
  “Right wing lunatic psychopath”
  
  I see neither Right wing nor lunatic nor psychopath
  
  This is just a narrative the left want because debating Tarrants points on immigration/diversity will only lead to their loss. They wish to divert the masses into thinking his motive was something it’s not like “Colonialist monuments” Something they wish to get rid of therefore attach it to Tarrant, which has nothing at all to do with anything he said or did.
  
  This is what Tarrant explained as “Accelerationism” they wanted to get rid of the monuments along time ago as he says “i’m just accelerating it a bit”.
  
  This article is everything Tarrant wanted. And its the very reason the Government wanted nobody to read the manifesto.. So they can just make up whatever bullshit they want to justify their own hatred.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:38am
  - sooty
    
    Me, I thought it was was something in the water in Dunedin. Maybe with all the weird and different people, he could hide in plain sight!
    
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    April 10, 2019 11:34am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Eco warrior”.
    
    Met a “1080 activist”. He was involved in the “protest” with the dead birds at parliament.
    
    He was adamant that spiking water supplies with 1080 or any other action that threatened people was “acceptable” as the greater good was more important.
    
    “Nut job”, just like the 2 non male green mps.
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If this report that Tarrant was issuing death threats a couple of years ago whilst in Aussie is correct, then Dunedin has nothing to answer for.
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/brenton-tarrant-alleged-christchurch-shooter-sent-death-threat/10952876
  
  (The abc clip shows a pic of Tarrant in N.Korea… presumably on Mt Paektu – Korean/Chinese holy mountain)
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:49am
Happychappy

Andrew Little obviously showing his ability to communicate to people again.
https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/010fdc73-70cd-44b5-b30d-20a97ff7cf9e
Is their anything that Andrew doesn’t excel at.
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April 10, 2019 8:52am
- freethinker
  
  I wasn,t aware Little Andrew excelled at anything, at least anything worthwhile.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:28am
  - Happychappy
    
    Be fair he is a expert on how to piss people off .
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:53am
  - Paulus
    
    Entering Pike River with Peters very soon !
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:03pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  The Minister of Justice seems to believe he has the right to adjudicate between the Tribes and Iwi over their claims to land. We have the Maori land Court for that.
  
  Te Reo is not a written language so historical records of title which may have passed by conquest are found in many forms. That knowledge can be customarily privileged and not up for public examination. The Minister may be trampling over historic rights gained in battle where serious feelings are still involved.
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:36am
Prince

51 years ago today…
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April 10, 2019 8:52am
Maggie Pie

We got a glossy pamphlet in our letterbox yesterday promoting a new restaurant
in our suburb serving Middle Eastern & French Fusion Cuisine.
It’s called ‘Allah Carte’
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April 10, 2019 8:58am
- hullkiwi
  
  …What, is it Lebanese?
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:51am
lastmanstanding

It would appear in the Lefts pecking order of males Muslim men are at the top and old white Christian males are at the bottom.

This is referenced by the Left particularly the so called Feminists silence on the treatment of Muslim women and girls by Muslim men.

On the other hand the Left believe that all the sins of the world are caused by old white Christian men.

Now as a one of them I could adopts the Lefts position of Victim hood and wail at the unjust treatment blah blah blah.

Instead I refer to LOL at the Left over this and every other Leftie cause and point out the irony of their position as I have above re Muslim women and girls.
I find the Left to be a humourless bunch comprised of thin lipped individuals who look at you as if you have just farted in their presence.

So to all old white Christian men I say dont get angry with the Left. Laugh at them. They hate it.
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April 10, 2019 8:59am
- Rich Prick
  
  They really do hate it. For added points, join the NRA and wear a MAGA hat.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:18am
  - ducklin71
    
    Rich Prick i did exactly that! I can’t find a MAGA hat so i wear a NRA hat. My way of saying f*ck you to the left.
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:38pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Will it mean that hunters from other countries won’t be able to bring their semi autos in?
    
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    April 10, 2019 3:27pm
- The King
  
  It’s all fun and games until your laughing at them is considered hate speech under the laws they make.
  
  Contempt and ridicule works better.
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:11am
sooty

Don’t forget Iain LeesGalaway for his incompetance for stuffing up his bosses order to hide the dud cheque from view! Maybe not as thick as Twyford who does it every day, but talk about Labour ministers been on the lower end of the IQ scale, where do they find them? Is there a special class for teaching them how to be dumb. There’s so many of them!
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April 10, 2019 9:06am
- waikatogirl
  
  Sooty, and all so full of themselves. Their egos must be hell to live with. ?
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:58am
- namron
  
  Sooty’s comment – “Special class for teaching them to be dumb”!
  Please don’t hold me responsible for Gareth Hughes!!
  I tried.
  namron
  
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  April 10, 2019 5:01pm
Inandout

So we have experienced total terrorism, and it is interesting to note how the world suffers along with us.
https://ourworldindata.org/terrorism

I have heard that any responsive attack after Christchurch my occur up to 10 weeks after the event, so I can understand the Police being a tad jittery over Anzac services.
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April 10, 2019 9:24am
- MickMac
  
  they’ve gotto get here…
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:46am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    They are already here….
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:08pm
Hugh Pavletich

… SYDNEY HOUSING …

Thousands of people are fleeing Sydney each month as the city becomes unliveable … News com au

https://www.news.com.au/finance/thousands-of-people-are-fleeing-sydney-each-month-as-the-city-becomes-unliveable/news-story/0f75211c5b4acb406ec9bebe37e5249b

It used to be one of the most liveable cities in the world, but each month thousands are packing up and moving. And most are heading to one place. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Moody’s dramatically downgrades its forecasts for house prices … Sydney Morning Herald

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/moody-s-dramatically-downgrades-its-forecasts-for-house-prices-20190409-p51cav.html
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Google NZ News Search ‘Sydney Housing’

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=sydney+housing&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYytXahcPhAhVLHKYKHTmDCf8Q_AUIDygC&biw=607&bih=410
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April 10, 2019 9:37am
- burt
  
  It’s called the market Hugh, can you please explain why it is wrong that real estate isn’t the same price everywhere?
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    Please don’t encourage him.
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:19pm
MickMac

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April 10, 2019 9:44am
big bruv

Since the 15th of March it has been open season on white NZ males. Ironically this has come about because of the actions of an Australian citizen. We have been told that all white males are racist, violent and Islamophobic. Now we see that our most sacred day (the day that we remember the NZ males who died in their thousands) is to be radically altered because of security concerns.
This corrupt government and its hideous Prime Minister refuses to tell us where those security concerns are coming from, the inference is that they are again the actions of white NZ males.
Tell the fucking truth Ardern, tell us where the threats are coming from.
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April 10, 2019 9:51am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The threats are from the perceived interference in the COL’s plans to turn NZ into a socialist police state. The clampdown will be excused as these classified dissenters are presented as dangerous to NZ. They interfere withe true socialist thinking .
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:46am
- cmm
  
  Since 15th March???
  
  Where have you need since 2015 or so?
  
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  April 10, 2019 1:17pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She can’t tell the truth, lying is a pre-requisite of being a labour Party flunkie. Telling the truth goes against the grain
  
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  April 10, 2019 2:39pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Because we can’t handle the truth?
    
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    April 10, 2019 3:18pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      We know the truth, just not allowed to speak it
      
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      April 10, 2019 3:31pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I did like that line in the movie uttered by Jack Nicholson. A Few Good Men.
        
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        April 10, 2019 8:09pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

I am praying the CoL will adopt CGT and get burnt at the next election…..Winston please go to sleep and don’t do anything.
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April 10, 2019 9:56am
- burt
  
  However, with less than 50% of the population being nett tax payers, don’t be so sure that imposing unfair taxes will impact Labour negatively at the election.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:17am
- ducklin71
  
  Dirtnap for Winnie
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:20am
Aunty

On the matter of Brexit. If Britain leaves the UK and if the UK breaks up with Scotland and maybe even Northern Ireland leaving the union, what then should become of Britian’s permanent seat on the UN Security Council?

Even if the UK doesn’t break up, once it has left the EU, why should it retain this seat anyway? Surely it should be forced to give this up to Japan or possibly India (perish the thought)?

The UK holds this seat because it was one of the major allied powers that won the second world war. But it should be remembered though that it did this as the head of the British Empire, the ruler of 1/4 of the world so it represented the interests of a vast swath of humanity. But there is no longer any empire there that it represents.

The UK government (excluding the Palace) over the last 50 years has turned its back on the Commonwealth and treated it with a mixture of disdain, disinterest and boredom, while it’s pursued its relationship with its flash European floozie with great gusto. So as part of the EU, you could argue it had some merit in having its permanent seat on the Security Council.

But post Brexit? What exactly does it have then? No Empire, no membership in the EU. Why should such a small unconnected country have a permanent seat on the council? Oh because it’s the world’s 6th largest economy?? Yeah, so is the state of California. So what?
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April 10, 2019 10:06am
- freethinker
  
  Apart from its Military resources and experience the UK as part of 5 Eyes provides invaluable intelligence to many especially the EU who are realizing that without that shared information they will have to rely on Inspector Clueless.
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:34am
- kowtow
  
  Along with the US , Britain basically founded the UN .
  
  It’s a democracy , that spread democracy throughout the world , ( unlike some on the Council) .
  
  Good enough to keep its seat , even if it’s only ‘England’.
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:39am
  - Ross12
    
    It is not acting like a democracy at the moment, kowtow. Almost the opposite.
    
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    April 10, 2019 12:54pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Certainly doesn’t seem sovereign.
      
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      April 10, 2019 3:16pm
  - Aunty
    
    But that’s the past. And the distant past too. We live now and in the future. How is that relevant to the UN and the world of today and tomorrow?
    
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    April 10, 2019 1:47pm
- howitis
  
  As of today the UK is the world’s fifth largest economy by GDP measure.
  (or Wellness, I get those confused!)
  
  Britain is a nuclear power.
  It is France that has the dubious permanent seat.
  They were defeated and broken in the 1940’s (basically cry-babies that needed other countries like Canada, USA, and NZ to liberate them from the boche) and it was Britain that used its power at the time to get France the perm seat on the security council.
  
  France will never acknowledge others who help.
  Hence, despite the kiwi graves in France they bombed the Rainbow Warrior in Auckland’s harbour then played hardball after when they were caught out!
  After not really fighting the boche, once US had the Marshall Plan in place, France went back over aggressively to South East Asia and this conflict led to the Vietnam war. ie France’s arrogance gave birth to that war.
  
  Britain, the actual party to victory in 1945, began a process of letting its colonies go (India 1947) and these countries mainly stayed with Britain under the Commonwealth.
  France: see Lebanon, Algeria today et al.
  
  France also showed its ‘gratitude’ with De Gaulle blocking UK getting in to the common market.
  When the UK did join it was on weak ground and here we are today with Brexit or not to Brexit.
  
  If anyone gets removed it should be France ahead of Britain.
  If Britain ends up as Wales and England it will still be a world player. It will just need a new home for its nuclear vessels.
  
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  April 10, 2019 1:14pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    If the Bosch want to have another crack at the cheese eating surrender monkey’s let them have the duplictious bastards
    
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    April 10, 2019 1:43pm
- Aunty
  
  I see that David has listed the world’s top 10 militarys in a post today and the UK comes in at #8 on the list behind countries such as India, Japan, France and South Korea.
  
  The world as well as the UK (and NZ too for that matter) has to come to terms with the fact that the UK is no longer a major global economic and military power of significance and needs to adjust its thinking accordingly. And that includes relinquishing its permanent seat on the UN Security Council.
  
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  April 10, 2019 1:44pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I wish New Zealand would also relinquish it’s seat at the UN as well.
    
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    April 10, 2019 2:16pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      May have to, after Ardern has totally screwed it up. That’s where she is going, PM is just a stepping stone
      
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      April 10, 2019 3:13pm
burt

They are us;
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/111919797/german-on-trial-over-death-of-5yearold-yazidi-slave-girl
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April 10, 2019 10:12am
- Tall Man
  
  o basically you are saying that we have as many rights as the “yazidi” slaves.
  
  Not quite but we are well on the way.
  
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  April 10, 2019 2:14pm
The King

“German on trial” Yes i’m sure she’s very like that Blond haired blue eyed named “Erika”

Stuff “no agenda here guys”.co.nz
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April 10, 2019 10:45am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  born in Germany, a protestant school droppout who converted. Islam attracts a certain number of losers as converts seeking a way to excuse their life-failings. Couple of NZ converts who became Jihadis exemplifies this.
  
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  April 10, 2019 11:14am
Fletch

Sentient quote from journalist Malcolm Muggeridge (now deceased).

“It is true that the delay in creating public pressure for euthanasia has been due to the fact that it was one of the war crimes cited at Nuremberg. So, for The Guinness Book of World Records, you can submit this: that it takes about thirty years in our humane society to transform a war crime into an act of compassion.” – Malcolm Muggeridge
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April 10, 2019 10:50am
- Nermal
  
  Slight difference between murder and suicide, but don’t let facts get in the way
  
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  April 10, 2019 3:40pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    But….Nazis!!!
    
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    April 10, 2019 4:30pm
The King

You all can stop using the words “Terrorist” and “Terrorism” to describe Brenton Tarrant. Under the law right now he is deemed neither and charged with neither. I know its a buzzword and sounds cool, but what it actually does is delegitimizes his victims as political victims rather than innocents of mass murder.

Tarrant doen’t want anyone to remember his motivation he said this himself, he only wants people to remember the attack, seems everyone right now is just gifting everything he wanted and it’s quite sad really.
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April 10, 2019 11:21am
- mikenmildagain
  
  There was a column somewhere not long after the shooting pointing out that charging the offender with terrorism offences would involve the prosecutor having to prove a political motive, thereby opening up more potential for him to use the trial as a platform for the offender’s views.
  
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  April 10, 2019 1:20pm
  - The King
    
    Terrorism is a method of getting a message out that is being censored. The Zionists used it to establish Israel,(King David hotel bombing, der yassin massacre) the Palestinians to draw attention to their plight, the IRA to draw attention and bring urgency to the northern Ireland question. ISIS to establish an Islamic caliphate.
    
    Censorship and terrorism go hand in hand. More censorship will lead to more radicalization, and now the radicals know not to say anything on social media it will be harder to track and they can say anything they want at the BBQ, or the Gun club, or the local pub, at home…
    
    If someones views are wrong you don’t censor it you point out how wrong they are with your own epic morals and values… if you can.
    
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    April 10, 2019 5:52pm
cas

Isn’t the answer to the Andrew Little premise that Maori are over represented in prisons and we must do something about it, to suggest that Maori should commit fewer crimes then they wouldn’t be in prison.
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April 10, 2019 12:10pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  But where would all the ex prisoners live?
  
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  April 10, 2019 3:10pm
Hugh Pavletich

Guess where interest rates are headed …

UBS: RBNZ capital requirements slam into Aussie banks – MacroBusiness Australia (behind paywall)

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/04/ubs-rbnz-capital-requirements-slam-aussie-banks/

New Zealand may not have had a royal commission but it knows what it is doing when it comes to reckless Aussie banks. Via the excellent Jonathon Mott at UBS:

Reserve Bank of New Zealand capital requirements larger than prior estimates

Recent speeches and publications by the RBNZ suggest it remains fully committed to its Bank Capital proposals. While the RBNZ is still in its consultation phase (until 3 May) and its final decision is not expected until September, we do not anticipate material concessions. Further, we now believe there is limited capacity for the banks to utilise the proposed 1.5% of AT1 allowable (perpetual non-redeemable preference shares) and that banks are likely to maintain ~1% buffer over 16% minimum Tier 1. This implies the New Zealand banks would need to run CET1 ratios of ~17%, well above our prior estimates of 14.5% (which included AT1 and no buffer) and leaves a FY23E capital shortfall of ~NZ$21bn rather than the ~NZ$15bn we previously estimated. … read more via hyperlink above (beyond paywall) …
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April 10, 2019 12:47pm
RF

More unintended consequences.

I hear that sports shops dealing in firearms are having difficulty shipping firearms across the country. I know some courier firms are refusing to ship weapons purchased on Trade Me.

Not confirmed but I have been told that many rifle ranges will not allow the Police to use them for training.

Looks like the only alternative would be the defence dept but the availability is limited.

Bugger.
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April 10, 2019 12:56pm
- Tall Man
  
  Quite a few years ago I was helping a mate “sight” a new rifle in on our rural property.
  
  One of my neighbours rang the police to report me for shooting at the farm wokers.
  
  Amazing how many police turned up…
  
  Anyway, they went and spoke to the neighbour then had the arms officer pay her another visit to smack her bum but while we were all chatting amiably they tried to say that we always had to be very careful as they even have accidents at the police range.
  
  My old mate look at the senior and said “we’ll it’s a good thing we don’t let you guys shoot here then”……
  
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  April 10, 2019 2:09pm
  - kowtow
    
    kiwi gun blog site where there was some very droll commentary about police and guns …..
    
    ‘When I had an interview for my own firearms license the inspector was an ex policemen. He mentioned that he had only been shot at once in a long career. But he “Never worked with her again”.’
    
    https://kiwigunblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/19/poor-police-gun-training-a-recipe-for-disaster/
    
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    April 10, 2019 3:52pm
- softail 1450
  
  RF ,there is a high class rifle range opening soon at air base Whenuapai,no doubt plod will be able to go play with his new guns at that place,being in full commando clothing will no doubt be mandatory……
  
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  April 10, 2019 2:11pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There’s enough non productive noise that comes from there now, without more
    
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    April 10, 2019 3:34pm
Tauhei Notts

All the police at Dawn Parade services?
In my town the Dawn Parade will take place at the RSA, which is directly opposite a meat works that employs a large number of specialist Halal slaughtermen.
I’ll keep you posted on how many Mr Plods are there.
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April 10, 2019 1:41pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Our police do not even march at ours, but we have our local servicemen/women who do.
  
  Always thought it off that our police didn’t show up.
  
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  April 10, 2019 3:06pm
- sooty
  
  Oh, no. Think of all the knives over there!
  
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  April 10, 2019 4:05pm
JibberJabber

The drive against bourgeois aspirations underpins an emerging neo-feudal system in which people remain renters for life, enjoying their video games or houseplants. This may end the dream of ownership that has defined the middle class for a half millennium, but it could assure a steady profit for the owner class, a rent that would seem appropriate to a medieval landlord.

https://quillette.com/2019/04/10/the-end-of-aspiration/

Those at the top of class pyramid can purchase “indulgences” for their consumption by investing in forests, driving electric cars, solarizing their homes, while their wealth allows them to purchase expensive inner-city flats.
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April 10, 2019 2:30pm
Happychappy

Jacinda should take lessons from Justin Trudeau on facts and truth as he also hugged refugees and found stardom out of his kindness until his lies started to catch up to him.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/10/trudeau-a-ruthless-machine-politician/amp/
Now he is fighting a losing battle to survive.
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April 10, 2019 3:12pm
JibberJabber

Just awesome, Opinion Rhapsody,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IABRgZH12YA
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April 10, 2019 4:32pm
- Tall Man
  
  Brilliant. Good find.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:26pm
Johnboy

Dear dear. What a surprise. Since the new moderation policy has come into effect what a surprising drop in KB participation has occurred. 🙂
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April 10, 2019 5:54pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Weeded out most of the scumbags and their scumbag comments, you reckon?
  
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  April 10, 2019 6:48pm
  - Johnboy
    
    You obviously slimed your way thru the sieve milky. 🙂
    
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    April 10, 2019 7:21pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Nope, you and I are still here.
    
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    April 10, 2019 9:14pm
Johnboy

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Dear dear……how fuckin sad! 🙂
Time you grew up David and stopped taking orders from that useless bunch of [deleted – Mod] that some of us once thought were called..”The National Party” 🙂
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April 10, 2019 5:58pm
- Johnboy
  
  What a bloody surprise! I only called them what they actually are! 🙂
  Truth is of course the first victim of political correctness. 🙂
  
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  April 10, 2019 6:14pm
Johnboy

I copy this comment of yours just for a laugh David old chap!

“If all the Government MPs voted against an inquiry, it will absolutely be because the Government told them to.”
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April 10, 2019 6:01pm
Johnboy

Dear dear. This time of a night on a Wednesday GD should be up to 300!
[What a … ] 🙂
Can we have the real names of the Moderators please David? 🙂
[Mod : I guess that would be fair enough if everyone knew the real names of the posters :)]
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April 10, 2019 6:25pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Mine’s Monique Watson and I’m still on automatic mod. Is it bcos I have my profile set to an old email? It won’ accept my email.
  
  Can someone tell a joke? In return I can tell you that John Edwards having a sook over Facebook won’t change how the company operates it’s platform. First Amendment.
  
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  April 10, 2019 7:10pm
Johnboy

I’ve bored a 7mm hole thru my defenders mag. Welded in a steel rod. Altered the spring so I can screw it back in past the obstruction. Now holds five rounds. Is it legal? 🙂
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April 10, 2019 6:29pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Maybe test fire it at an Anzac Day service to find out?
  
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  April 10, 2019 6:46pm
  - Johnboy
    
    If you volunteered to be the target old chap I may be tempted! 🙂
    
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    April 10, 2019 7:19pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    That’s not funny underpants face.
    
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    April 10, 2019 7:29pm
- Tall Man
  
  Yes.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:12pm
Happychappy

Well Grand Robertson went on about the Reid Research Poll yesterday on the CGT saying that if you ask a leading question you get the answer for what you ask and was very bitter about it.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12220704
Now they use the Labour Polling Company and do exactly the same to get the same. Hypocrites.
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April 10, 2019 6:33pm
Johnboy

I have a Ruger 10/22 semi. It has a ten round rotary mag…it is apparently legal.
I have a banana mag for it…is it now illegal?
I have grandads old .303. It has a detachable ten shot magazine. Is it now illegal? 🙂
Kneejerk legislation is wonderful for new hijab wearers but not so good for folk that have to consider the consequences of the kneejerk legislation. 🙂
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April 10, 2019 6:40pm
- Tall Man
  
  Back in 1996 the ten shot mag made the .303 “illegal” in Oz as it was regarded as a “military firearm”.
  
  We used a 10 shot mag when goat hunting many years ago so technically it should still be..in original form it has bayonet lugs and the 10 shot box mag is readly available.
  
  My father used one in the African Desert and Monte Casino. If he was alive he’d be so proud of this “open and transparent” government…. maybe not.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:09pm
Johnboy

[Mod : I guess that would be fair enough if everyone the real names of the posters :)]
Good God! You are a moderator and you can’t even put a sentence together! 🙂
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April 10, 2019 6:42pm
- Johnboy
  
  Now look here moderator. I realise you are newly appointed since the Mosque outrage and obviously a fellow who always wanted to dictate to his superiors hence your volunteering for the position. However you must learn, as a moderator, never to engage directly with cunts like me cause we just luv it! 🙂
  
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  April 10, 2019 6:51pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Now isn’t that so funny and utterly disfunctional?
    I said the “cunt” word earlier and it was immediately deleted. I said the same word at 6:51 to the mod and it’s still there????? What a strange new world KB has become! 🙂
    
    [Mod: Because the second use of the word was directed at yourself, it got through. We aren’t trying to stop self-abuse 😉 ]
    
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    April 10, 2019 7:32pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Thank goodness for that. I’ve always been a wanker. It’s one of the few, forever reliable, pleasures I’ve ever had in my miserable life. 🙂
      
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      April 10, 2019 7:53pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Isn’t it a rehash of WO? Got banned by mods after making some fine online friends and could never figure out how to jump through the hoops to get back on and finally threw it in the basket of Why Bother. Nothing against tonight’s Mods
    
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    April 10, 2019 7:34pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Indeed Monique. I can see KB going from the best blog in NZ to disappearing into oblivion with this new policy. Just because Saint Jacinda has a road to Damascus moment there is no reason at all for the National Party to lose it’s cool and tell DPF to shut up! 🙂
      I was going to quit in disgust a week ago but truth and freedom need to be fought for so back I have came until banned! 🙂
      
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      April 10, 2019 8:00pm
      - JibberJabber
        
        Check out, https://ysb.co.nz/, a new site set up by KB regular Holysheet.
        
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        April 10, 2019 8:14pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Do moderators moderate other moderators? Or d they have carte blanche?
  
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  April 10, 2019 10:26pm
JibberJabber

Australia`s fucked,
https://www.southcoastregister.com.au/story/6011800/if-we-cant-march-at-night-at-peacetime-what-happens-at-wartime/
Navy not allowed to march at night cos` health and safety…
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April 10, 2019 8:08pm
- Tall Man
  
  Perhaps they don’t want a certain non truthful politician’s hurty face being broadcast as punishment… That’s definitely a health and safety issue.
  
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  April 10, 2019 9:04pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    On a tall edifice?
    
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    April 10, 2019 10:32pm
Scooter

I can’t wait to see how many people hand in their guns, I suspect the numbers will be very low and maybe like Kiwibuild figures the Govt will be too embarrassed to actually say.
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April 10, 2019 9:41pm
Scooter

Still waiting, are moderators in deep contemplation?
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April 11, 2019 1:51am
- Peter Lane
  
  Yes. Surprisingly we don’t stay up all night waiting for people to post.
  
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