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Captain Mainwaring

Q. Who would be the most useless New Zealander?
A. A homosexual vegan socialist cyclist.

How many Labour/Green supporters qualify on at least two of those measures?
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March 2, 2019 8:01am
- Universal Smith
  
  “A homosexual vegan socialist cyclist”
  
  Collectively called a: Wellingtonian.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:05am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    As a Wellingtonian, who is a happily married man, (to a woman), who never cycles and has his steaks medium rare, and is always 2 ticks blue, I dispute your misguided attempt and group identity blame!
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:08am
    - Universal Smith
      
      Then you know what I’m talking about. Go loiter up Cuba St for a reminder. 🙂
      
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      March 2, 2019 8:11am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        Went there last week. Boho Hobos as far as the eye can see!
        
        However, there is a great eatery there by the name of Grill Meats Beer. Very Popular!
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:19am
      - Universal Smith
        
        Might check it out today. Catching up with a vegan so I am thinking a meat grill.
        
        Seriously though, Welly is full of gays. No problem with that personally, but just saying.
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:24am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        Wellington is most definitely NOT full of gays, but that is what the council want us to think.
        
        It’s an astroturf Rainbow, as seen at the airport.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:13am
      - Prince
        
        A large number of homeless sleeping on the street.
        Don’t tell anyone though.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:33am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Agreed, at least we keep them all in one place, you bastards send yours to parliament, which is in… …WELLINGTON.
        
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        March 2, 2019 1:26pm
    - The Heat
      
      Another Wellingtonian here.
      
      – Women, oh yes
      – Motorcycles
      – Steak (cut off the tail, slap it on the plate)
      – Libertarian centre-ist something or other, but certainly not socialist
      
      Enough with the collectivism 🙂
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:35am
      - lifesgood
        
        I thought the number of beggars in Auckland was getting bad but then I went to Wellington…man oh man, the place is infested with them. As for gays, well you know they’re everywhere too, it is pretty fashionable to be gay these days, as long as it doesn’t become compulsory I don’t mind them but I wouldn’t put anything past this government. The very worst thing about Wellington is that they are all so piously left wing, it is like a cosy club down there. I guess the envy is inevitable when they look north to Auckland. (dives for cover)
        
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        March 2, 2019 12:38pm
- Inandout
  
  TV1 breakfast.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:05am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Tourism?
    
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    March 2, 2019 7:24pm
- holysheet
  
  Nah Cindy and her enabler, the drunken dwarf , would top that list any day.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:06am
  - Piniwi
    
    @ holysheet had to laugh at this from John Armstrong today : “Ardern and Robertson Ardern aren’t fools. You can bet your bottom dollar that a considerable amount of thought went into how to best manage the release of the Tax Working Group’s report.” A simple cut and paste helps to display the diligence used to include stuttering along with some usual barbs for those who question “what is there to fix?”.
    The majority are more concerned as that the considerable list of increasing unintended consequences are turning the NZ$ on it’s bottom. Yet having forced it down to favour exporters managed to top the previous peak from 2006 of the NZ trade deficit. Now that is a change that is visible while being more inline with majority expectations of the COL but a surprise to them. Lol
    
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    March 2, 2019 12:39pm
- The only red for me is that of Manchester United
  
  Thanks for confirming the stereotype that all Kiwi blog, National party supporters and centre right voters are homophobic, conservative and are against people living their own lifestyles the way they want to. I’ve always told people that National are an open, progressive party that believes in the individual. Freedom of choice. Someone is gay, or vegan. They are allowed to be. Why does it scare you? We’re you sexually abused by someone? A vegan lifestyle can be healthier and what about all those men who ride bikes in the weekend. Keeping themselves fit. You’re a dinosaur and do nothing to promote Kiwiblog and centre right politics. The world has moved on. You haven’t.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:59am
  - starboard
    
    So you are a gay vegetarian ?
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:47am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    The Offenderati have arrived!
    
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    March 2, 2019 5:29pm
  - stoptheboats
    
    Test
    
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    March 3, 2019 3:50am
  - Howdy
    
    Red
    Please Think and Grow up.
    They don’t represent the majority here or in National.
    Besides which as they aren’t properly identified except to DPF, how can you know they are not trolls.
    Stirring shit or arseholes, one of the two.
    
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    March 3, 2019 7:18am
- ztev
  
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  Useless?
  
  We have a winner ; Maureen Pugh,
  Plus she has some pretty extreme anti pharmacetical views .
  Plus her boss called her Fu$#% useless
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:15am
  - niggly
    
    You really must stop looking in the mirror when you post Ztev, as you seem to be describing yourself!
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:33am
    - ztev
      
      Its from Soimuns phone calls
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:52am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        The ztev effect (the frequency and level of diversion of ztev posts is inversely proportional to the validity of criticism/pillory of Labour and/or Ardern) was in full display yesterday and looks like spilling over into today.
        
        The butt hurt must be strong.
        
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        March 2, 2019 11:41am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Are you short? Hunched?
        
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        March 2, 2019 7:27pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Describing a National MP as “useless”, puts her many points ahead of the BEST labour MP.
    National just has much higher standards.
    
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    March 2, 2019 1:29pm
- Tall Man
  
  ardern the liar closely followed by wynston the thief ably assisted by the lefty morons that support her, a few of which inhabit this blog with annoying frequency.
  
  But hey, lefties, don’t leave, I want you around in 2020 or prior when your crooked princess falls. You know who I mean..ardern the liar.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:00pm
waikatogirl

Morning all ?
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March 2, 2019 8:01am
- Swifty
  
  Morning, capsicums are colouring up nicely as are all the chillies – we’ve got a big day planned tomorrow pickling and might make a sauce or two – we’ve got tens and tens of ripe ghost chillies the size of a hen’s egg.
  
  I could probably post some photos if you’re interested.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:22am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Capsicums turning red here too Swifty. The nights are definitely cooling now, just hope all my tomatoes ripen before the summer is over. Good luck with your pickling and sauces tomorrow. ? ? ?
    I’m making marmalade today. ?
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:31am
    - Swifty
      
      Great stuff.
      
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      March 2, 2019 8:45am
    - DigNap15
      
      How can you have time to make pickle and jam when we have got an evil COL to get rid of! (ha ha)
      
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      March 2, 2019 8:56am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble…
        Making pickle and jam is excellent plotting time DigNap. ? ?
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:04am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        Get that pantry full, smoke the hams and put in the cellar, bottle the preserves etc., Not sure capital gains can attack that, however not 100% sure. Is self sufficiency taxable? Rates of course, don’t sell, and for goodness sake don’t create any goodwill
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:06am
      - Swifty
        
        ‘Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog, Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting, Lizard’s leg and owlet’s wing.’
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:11am
      - toby1845
        
        “Winston’s breath and Megan’s tum,
        Shane Jones’ seed and Robbo’s bum,
        Twyford’s brain and Gayford’s powder,
        As all the while Ardern’s lies get louder…”
        
        (Apologies to the Bard.)
        
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        March 2, 2019 11:10am
      - Swifty
        
        Heh, excellent Toby.
        
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        March 2, 2019 11:23am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Well swifty, that sounds like a Labour list selection recipe.
        
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        March 2, 2019 1:31pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I make mine in Winter when the neighbour’s Grapefruit tree is laden (my trees are still young)….
      Only trouble, Hubby has just eaten the last jar (God only knows where he shovels it all to….I suspect he has a 2nd breakfast around midnight).
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:51am
      - Swifty
        
        My Mum does a lovely one, Seville oranges and whisky, I use it on my summer hams. Lovely stuff.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:56am
      - waikatogirl
        
        My hubby gleefully turned up one day with a bagful of grapefruit in a very useful carrier bag the supermarkets used to pack our groceries in (don’t mention plastic!). I whizzed them all up and froze them in measured small batches so I wasn’t making marmalade for the rest of the week. Thawed and soaked overnight with added oranges and lemon added. Boiled up this morning. Marmalade is not my forte, raspberry jam is my enjoyment, like eating summer from a jar. ?
        
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        March 2, 2019 11:18am
    - mark15
      
      I have an orange habanero and a bunch of bird’s eyes.The Scotch Bonnet came to naught sadly.
      
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      March 2, 2019 1:52pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Try this Swifty.
    
    https://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/homemade-sambal-oelek-30248
    
    I made a few jars and it was bloody good and you could add it to heaps of meals either during or after cooking 🙂
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:40am
    - Swifty
      
      I will, thank you.
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:55am
      - Tall Man
        
        Be warned….it’s a before and after sensation…..much after 😉
        
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        March 2, 2019 5:18pm
      - Swifty
        
        Yeah, no worries. I’ve been doing similar for a good 20 years. I had a Thai partner who turned me on to their food and they do similar. I’ve got nine Thai birds-eye chillie plants going great guns at the mo. I’ll use them for it. They’ll be ideal.
        
        Will sneak off to the Avondale Market in the morning – lemongrass is in plentiful supply at the mo.
        
        Cheers and thanks again.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY
        
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        March 2, 2019 6:02pm
      - Tall Man
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hystPrCNWtU
        
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        March 2, 2019 7:53pm
duggledog

This is why you don’t want to even think about voting for “TOP” (The ‘Opportunities Party’)

I’m quoting Geoff Simmons, TOP spokesman, from an article he wrote in The Spinoff ‘Hey Renters Don’t Fall for the CGT Fantasy’ –

He says: You may not care about ‘business’ but have you ever wondered why your wages are so shit? The big problem is that our tax system favours investment in housing over investment in business’

No, that’s not why people’s wages are shit, Geoff.

The reason the wages are generally shit is this: businesses can’t afford to pay employees any more than they do, because the Government takes so much from the employer, then wastes a third of it before giving it back to said employee in the form of entitlements.

Twat.
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March 2, 2019 8:01am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The other reason wages are shit is because businesses choose to pay as little as possible, knowing that the Govt. will top it up through WFF.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:04am
  - Viking2
    
    Yep. don’t ya just luv those transfer payements.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:35am
    - sooty
      
      Only drawback is for people with no kids!
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:50am
      - dubya
        
        New Zealand is pretty awful to the wallets of those who can’t, or choose not to breed. And before anyone says who’s going to look after me in my dotage – like everyone else, probably a Filipina nurse. Just hope she doesn’t get Rose Hancock-Porteous ideas.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:18pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Cindy’s okay though dubya, she has a babyee.
        
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        March 2, 2019 5:35pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Productivity is shit as well.
    
    How do you expect a company to pay top wages to workers when generally productivity is lower than the rest of the OECD?
    
    We have always paid on performance because the more they do the less I have to do and if they do plenty I get plenty of relaxation. In 30 years we’ve never had a staff issue over wages.
    
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    March 2, 2019 5:23pm
    - Pascal
      
      We have issues with productivity when such a small percentage if our population actually works.
      
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      March 2, 2019 6:38pm
  - Nermal
    
    Another reason why (some) wages are shit is that the people that do them have never bothered to learn any skills
    
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    March 2, 2019 5:31pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Chicken and egg don’t you think?
    
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    March 2, 2019 7:33pm
- Universal Smith
  
  TOP has some lunatic ideas, but that one seems reasonable.
  
  I was thinking about voting for them until I read all their policies. Brilliance mixed with flights of insanity.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:14am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    I remember Morgan stating back in the day that no one should own a house, we should all rent. I always wondered who was going to own the houses that we would all be renting.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:07am
    - ztev
      
      Wasnt him…it was a Reserve Bank Governor
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:50am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    More insanity than brilliance with TOP, the trick is getting the balance right.
    
    Spike Milligan was the master of the technique, Simmons, not so much.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:16am
- Jules99
  
  Morgan’s imputed income on the family home was all I needed to steer well clear.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:18am
  - dog_eat_dog
    
    Correct. I also save money by not catching a corporate cab to work each day, so no doubt Gazza wants to tax me on the nominal value of my car too.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:29am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      And the shoes on your feet, at source and at end user.
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:08am
      - niggly
        
        Not unless you “off-set” that by buying a state-funded KiwiShoe (courtesy of the COL), they will offer everyone a 15% rebate (to, cough, offset imposition of the CGT they claim of course, after all that’s, cough, “fair”)!
        
        Trouble is, they only come in one colour – NZF Black (with white trim), and the Greens have spent 100% of the Govt’s rebate “income” (nevermind only 46% of the population understood or bothered to claim the rebate)!
        
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        March 2, 2019 10:41am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Taxman, The Beatles
        Let me tell you how it will be
        There’s one for you, nineteen for me
        ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman
        Should five per cent appear too small
        Be thankful I don’t take it all
        ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah I’m the taxman
        If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street,
        If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat.
        If you get too cold I’ll tax the heat,
        If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.
        Don’t ask me what I want it for
        If you don’t want to pay some more
        ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman
        Now my advice for those who die
        Declare the pennies on your eyes
        ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman
        And you’re working for no one but me.
        
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        March 2, 2019 1:35pm
  - Colinxy
    
    Essentially: be a slave to the state for life. No wonder Morgan loved North Korea so much.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:48am
holysheet

TEST::
This test only has one question, but it’s a very important one.
By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally.
The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision.
Only you will know the results, so remember that your answer needs to be honest.
THE SITUATION:
You are in Auckland, Mission Bay to be specific.
There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding.
This is a flood of biblical proportions.
You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper, and you’re caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless.
You’re trying to shoot career-making photos.
There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water.
THE TEST:
Suddenly you see a man in the water.
He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris.
You move closer.
Somehow the man looks familiar.
You suddenly realise who it is.
It’s Winston Peters!
At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under forever
YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS:
You can save the life of Winston or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the country’s most despised men hell bent on the destruction of New Zealand.
THE QUESTION:
Here’s the question, and please give an honest answer.
“Would you select high contrast colour film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white?”
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March 2, 2019 8:03am
- artemisia
  
  Neither. But I would hope that notifying the police and ambulance didn’t turn out to be a waste of two Kiwistamps.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:10am
- Universal Smith
  
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  Hating on Winston is what created the current sorry situation. National got sidelined with no mates and we have an idiotic commie bimbo running the country as a result.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:17am
  - holysheet
    
    Bullshit. It was the likes of Chucky who voted for the prick. They were deluded in thinking he would go with National to “keep them honest”.
    Just wait until the next election and they will do the same thing again. Dumbarses, all of them.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:31am
    - Universal Smith
      
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      I am untroubled with what you think, I just hope National have woken up to the reality of MMP. Bad mouthing minor parties is not a good idea.
      
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      March 2, 2019 8:45am
      - holysheet
        
        Likewise, although I am troubled that you think your posts are the result of any thought.
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:50am
      - Surely Knott
        
        There are no minor parties – red/Greens and red/Nz1 have made it clear they will only work with Labour. Next election the choice will be clear – it’s a binary choice , the Col or National.
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:53am
      - DigNap15
        
        Yes, but you nee to know who your partners will be before the election.
        You can never trust Winston Baubles Peters.
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:59am
      - Monique Watson
        
        My observation is that most minor parties have had traction due to leadership from prior to MMP. Except for a few notable electorates. Eventually NZ First will go the same way as others. Winston has shown he cannot hold onto an electorate. He’s showing another generation of Kiwis plenty of reasons not to vote for him or NZ Last.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:03am
      - Universal Smith
        
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        holysheet, you are a tribal voter who supports things because of who said it, rather than what was said. You are predictable and dim.
        
        Dog tucker.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:07am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        If the minor party has good ideas well and good, but if they are hellbent on destroying the way of life that I enjoy, bad mouth them all you like. Actually it is not bad mouthing it is presenting the facts and allowing people to make their own judgment.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:10am
      - Prince
        
        For 20 years Peters has bad-mouthed National.
        But you recoil when we respond ?
        Strange.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:38am
      - Universal Smith
        
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        And as a result National are sitting impotently on the sidelines led by a guy with 5% approval on a good day.
        
        Identity politics and tribalism were the downfall of National. Further entrenching it will ensure they stay down, for a long time.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:39am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Simon should rule out working with Winston NOW. Peters has made it transparent that he does not respect Simon as leader of the opposition, he has called him out. Why on earth would Simon expect Winston Peters would change his narrative and work with National in a positive way after an election?
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:44am
      - Universal Smith
        
        Ignorant cretins can’t handle the truth 🙂
        
        Dog tucker.
        
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        March 2, 2019 1:02pm
    - Happychappy
      
      holysheet it wasn’t just Chuck that voted for Winston, Realityczeck aka Universal Smith also cast the same vote.
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:04am
      - holysheet
        
        When I said “It was the likes of Chucky”, I was referring to all the other dumb arses.
        
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        March 2, 2019 10:15am
- Dave Mann
  
  LOVE the joke…. very good!
  
  I’m a photographer myself and the concept of ‘film’ is really outdated, so may I suggest this as the punchline (works better in the digital environment LOL):
  
  “Would you select HDR mode to be sure of catching all the shadow and highlight details or would you go with a simple ‘sports action’ setting?”
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:18am
- WaveyDavey
  
  Nah. Shoot it dig and have it pinging around the world before he even drowns.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:31am
- adamsmith1922
  
  Nah,wouldn’t waste the film,would report Peters for faecal pollution of the sea though
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:41am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Neither, but I would piss in the water just to make sure…..
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:33am
- RW Capitalist
  
  NO…save him
  Pull him ashore and beat him to within an inch of his life
  Cure him and repeat
  He deserves to have a life the same as he is inflicting on us.
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  I want to be the one that inflicts it.
  
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  March 2, 2019 1:39pm
Awww C-mon

Hey Keeping Stock,

In case you missed it me ole mate, Pete George has immortalised you on his award winning and highly popular blog

https://yournz.org/2019/03/01/sympathy-for-slater/

I am happy to negotiate the appropriate fee’s and payments associated with the use of your brand with Mr. George for my normal management fees.
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March 2, 2019 8:04am
- Swifty
  
  KS, while we’re at it – did you know that Denis Thatcher’s father was a New Zealander and from Wanganui?
  
  Thatcher St is named after the family, his Grandfather I gather.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:16am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503420&objectid=11075954
    
    (Thatcher St was my route to school…. from Manuka St down to Castlecliff School)
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:34am
Monique Watson

More emphasis on law and order aka consequences for the likes of these criminals.
Not that Andrew Little would agree but the focus should be on prevention! Lock ‘em up.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12208527
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March 2, 2019 8:05am
JibberJabber

Hypocrisy, Trudeau is thy name.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/452696-trudeau-corruption-scandal-fraud/
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March 2, 2019 8:05am
Captain Mainwaring

Brumbies blitzed in Palmerston North.
Can’t help thinking they were overwhelmed by having to play in a city at least a boring as the one they come from.
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March 2, 2019 8:07am
- MCos
  
  I thought they lost because the Hurricanes played better, but there you go.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:12am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Palmerston North can drive most people into a malaise, it says something when it can do it people who’ve had years of desensitisation of living in the hermetically sealed backwater that is Canberra.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:35am
- oob
  
  Little known fact:
  
  Palmerston North Boys’ High School has produced more All Blacks than any other school in the country.
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:36am
  - adventure
    
    Not sure what your data source is but according to Allblacks.com, PNBHS not even in top 10. AGS top with 51 (haven’t counted Akira Ioane), CBHS 51 (think they’re a couple short there too), Wellington College 35. Prob not up to date but PNBHS showing 15.
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:14pm
    - oob
      
      adventure you fell into my trap.
      
      PNBHS is in fact the only school to have produced an All Black: Craig Wickes in 1980.
      
      Check out his entry in the official stats. He’s the only AB to have a school team recorded as his club:
      
      RUGBY CLUB (First made All Blacks from) Palmerston North Boys’ High
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:25pm
      - Jack5
        
        No way does that mean Palmerston North Boys’ High (presumably OOB’s old school) produced more All Blacks than any other school in the country.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:25pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Hubby went to PNBHS for 5 years and has NEVER (then or now) watched a game of rugby in his life.
    
    How could that be?
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:28pm
    - oob
      
      How could that be?
      
      Just guessing Maggy but maybe it’s because guys like me flushed his head down the toilet so regularly he still believes toilet duck is hair conditioner? 🙂
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        OOB, I suspect you’ve never been in a scrum or been in a back line.
        
        But regardless, if you had been big, you might have been a bully to the smaller, younger kids.
        
        Bet you never boxed, though.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:22pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        You are not far off the mark…
        but it was his mate who got the dunny-flush treatment.
        (Hubby did do karate at the time)
        Hubby used to head off to the Labs and locate some nerdy teacher who needed assistance with developing a death-ray or explosive compound.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:36pm
      - Jack5
        
        That never happened at high schools I went to.
        
        The other boys would have been lining up to fight the thugs on behalf of the bullied and the pacifists.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:46pm
      - oob
        
        That never happened at high schools I went to..
        
        Sure it didn’t Jack5, our triggered little snowflake. Suuuuure it didn’t.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:50pm
      - Jack5
        
        Manawatu … one spurt with the Ranfurly Shield 40 years ago.
        
        Must be stuffed by all OOB’s dunny ducking.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:41pm
      - oob
        
        You keep capitalising my name Jack5, like you don’t remember me. Perhaps if I give you my full name it will refresh your memory, it’s:
        
        8ooooob
        
        Or as you used to call me “AAAAAAH! IT’S TOO BIG! IT’S TOO BIG!”
        
        Or words to that effect. It was difficult to make out what you were saying over the sound of all that flushing. How’ve you been? Head still blue? We should get together sometime, and reminisce.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:53pm
All_on_Red

Godfrey Elfwick on Free Speech
https://spectator.us/free-speech-threat/
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March 2, 2019 8:09am
howzit

What was Bridges thinking inviting Trevvett in to his home to write an article on him.
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March 2, 2019 8:10am
- pdm
  
  He would have had Women’s Weekly but they have a 6 month booking with Taxcinda.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:22am
- brett68
  
  It’s so staged, those pictures 🙄
  
  Almost as bad as the Simon drinking a beer photo.
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:14am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Yes, she was’t there as a friend, but hey you got to do what you got to do. I am sure some were saying that he needed some mongrel in him and being ready to get in the dirt with others to win the fight, sounded good to me, no matter how it will be twisted.
  
  Same as the little dig about 2 hours to have skimmed the C.G.T, trying to draw analogies with the Soubrek matter.
  
  Damned by faint praise Simon, but I am sure you knew it was a trap.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:01pm
Richard

A good read.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110954682/things-you-might-have-missed-because-the-government-wanted-you-to
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March 2, 2019 8:10am
- harvey wilson
  
  Jesus thats bad, how long can Uday hold on to the health portfolio?
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:31am
- toby1845
  
  I see one of the lefty commenters was a ‘daveyarmstrong’. I wonder if he is the same Dave Armstrong who writes a weekly opinion piece for the DomPost.
  
  I remember hearing about his behaviour on an NZDF commemorative trip to Cassino in 1994. He was the most despised person on the trip: an absolute POS, by all accounts.
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:30am
- Rachael Membery
  
  And they still missed stuff themselves, sub judice? stuff?
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:04pm
artemisia

Today’s CEO Daily newsie from Fortune: Is Amazon Killing the Retail Business?

Some startling US stats –

Gap yesterday announced it was closing 230 retail stores, just a few hours after J.C. Penney said it was closing 27 stores, and a day after Victoria’s Secret said it was closing 53. These announcements bring total store closings this year to 4,500. But here’s the thing: some of the biggest big boxes—Walmart, Target, Best Buy—had stellar fourth quarters.

The writer sees Amazon as driving big box improvements for customers rather than the opposite.

However, and this is the political take – Democrats may be turning away from market economics.

There is a budding school of thought out there, known as the “New Brandeisians” and led by a 29-year-old legal scholar named Lina Khan, that argues that Amazon’s bigness is, in and of itself, bad.

And

… the Daily Beast reported earlier this week that Khan is being courted for a job by House Democrats—another sign of the Democratic retreat from market economics. A political era that dawned a half century ago, when Sen. Ted Kennedy teamed with now Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer to push for airline deregulation, may be coming to an end.
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March 2, 2019 8:12am
Yvette

The Climate Change Minister’s approved international travel expenses were the highest out of all ministers from October to the end of December, at $77,771, compared to Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s $54,487.
When asked to justify the expenses, Mr Shaw told Magic Talk on Friday the Green Party offsets all travel through tree-planting, something he said he’d “recommend people do”.
– https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/03/climate-change-minister-james-shaw-defends-travel-expenses-we-offset-our-travel-through-tree-planting.html

1) So how many trees have to be planted to offset Shaw’s travel? Being Climate Change Minister, he will know?
2) As some agency plants these trees, what is the cost of that service?
3) Shaw says the Green Party all do this, “through a programme that’s run by Enviro-Mark”, but it is unclear if the Green Party pays from its own funds, or from Parliamentary funding – in addition to the original $77,771 cost of travel. So, who pays?
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March 2, 2019 8:16am
- Manolo
  
  Do as I say, not as I do, is Shaw’s answer.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:22am
- waikatogirl
  
  The government does not generate any money, it is all taxpayer funded. The taxpayer pays, and pays, and pays!
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:24am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    That’s a remarkable insight.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:42am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      More accurate than many of yours, more worth reading than many of yours, did not contain ‘they did it too’ argument, unlike yours; shall I go on, like you do?
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:25am
- holysheet
  
  Hey Yvette, send your questions to his office and see how long it takes for them to reply.
  I bet it will take a lot longer than the reply to those questions sent to Cindy’s office earlier this week.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:46am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Enviromark doesn’t plant the trees… they are just a company that does some pretty calculations to tell how many trees need to be planted and offers certificates.
  https://www.enviro-mark.com/about-us
  Perhaps some-one takes a trip or looks at a pic. to check that some trees have gone into the ground.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:47am
- niggly
  
  Tree planting to offset pollution is just bullshit and Shaw knows it (but being a liar in the same mold as Ardern he believes in his own virtue signalling – witness his radio interview with Sean Plunket yesterday, the cuk is a virtue-signalling and ideologically insane con-artist).
  
  This is why it is bullshit and Shaw is a virtue signalling liar – image if Shaw polluted a river and said “hey it’s ok, my name is James Shaw and I’m going to plant some trees or put a bucket of fresh water back into the river to offset the damage I contributed to, so I feel good and virtuous now, and have I no issue polluting the river (or jet-setting across the globe more than any other NZ politician), remember I will offset that” etc.
  
  What a load of crap eh! And James Shaw & the Greens, you are full of it!
  
  https://www.magic.co.nz/home/news/2019/02/james-shaw-defends-travel-expenses.html
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:29am
  - holysheet
    
    Jimmy two mums probably goes to the beach and takes home a bottle of seawater to help reduce the rising sea levels.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:43am
    - Prince
      
      Handful, not bottle. Think Green.
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:52am
      - holysheet
        
        Opps my bad, velly solly.
        
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        March 2, 2019 10:18am
      - stoptheboats
        
        Grin
        
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        March 3, 2019 4:04am
    - niggly
      
      Bwhahahaha, good one!
      
      Do you think he probably sneaks back to the beach at night and puts his carefully nurtured handful of seawater back, because he later realises he is appropriating something that belongs to mother earth and isn’t his to take?
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:57am
      - holysheet
        
        Yep and while he’s there, he will have a piss in the sea to not pollute the earth.
        
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        March 2, 2019 11:34am
- kowtow
  
  Climate “offsets” , the modern secular equivalent of the Papal Indulgences.
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:53am
- tf78
  
  Maybe Shaw’s travel is offset by Celia Wade-Brown’s tree planting. (not)
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:06am
- backster
  
  Who Pays?……….Maybe Shame Jones shells out from his slush fund.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:23am
  - niggly
    
    Who Pays? We the Taxpayer!
    
    No wonder James Shaw is so enthusiastic about it!
    
    Imagine if they had to pay their own way, they’d all then think of some other scheme to justify their hypocrisy!
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:03am
Justitia

Will the FMA be launching an investigation now Mainzeal’s directors have been found in the High Court to be liable for breaches under the Companies Act?
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March 2, 2019 8:17am
- peterwn
  
  It appears there were no breaches under the Companies Act and the Securities Act was not applicable because the company was not borrowing from the public or issuing shares to the public. Doug Graham, Bruce Davidson (former Auckland Law Society Chair) and the others were convicted of false statements – putting their signatures on a dud prospectus or offer document. The liquidators would have advised the FMA or SFO if there appeared to be any breaches warranting prosecution.
  I remember years ago a neighbour (Mr M) was raising money for a new invention. A retired guy and a 18 year old both put money into his venture. M found it easy to raise money even though his venture was going nowhere. The two sued M in the District Court who ordered their money to be returned. Other people did not sue because they did not want it to be known that they were taken for a ride. M appealed to the High Court and the Judge dismissed the appeal re the 18 year old (young and naive) and with great reluctance allowed the appeal re the retired guy on the grounds that he ought to have known the risks. The Judge said (in very restrained language) “Mr M is a very astute gentleman” (ouch!).
  Similarly in the Mainzeal case two directors (including Jenny) or possibly three were taken for a ride when the Board was asked to approve the shonky ‘loans’.
  I do wonder whether company law should be extended to make activities such as this criminal or at least ‘administrative’ offences with penalties. For ‘administrative’ offences a lower standard of proof applies.
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:10am
  - ztev
    
    Dame jenny will have to cough up some personal funds – or get tips from Whaleoil about bankruptcy- as the insurance cover is only up to$20 mill , while the court awarded $36 mill to the liquidators ( and their funders)
    Her share is $6 mill and may have to find $2 mill from her rich chinese friends at the Construction Bank of China where she now roosts.
    Oh the irony … Construction Bank of China
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:46am
    - peterwn
      
      Some of your statements are rather extravagant. Bryan Gaynor writing in the Herald indicates that Jenny could be fully covered by insurance meaning she would incur little cost. He knows about these things.
      The odds are too that she she has access to more funds than the Official Assignee can screw out of her if she were declared bankrupt. Also Burton could force a matrimonial property split if she is worth more than he is.
      A person facing bankrupcy in that sort of situation would make the creditor (ie the liquidators) a ‘low ball’ offer which would rake in more money than forcing bankrupcy would. The liquidators would be quite pragmatic and unemotional about this, they just want maximum payment. They are not interested in being vindictive or wanting to teach Jenny a lesson.
      
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      March 2, 2019 12:23pm
      - ztev
        
        Digging a hole for your ignorance?
        Gaynor says “The four Mainzeal directors are covered by $20m of insurance”
        
        Which is exactly what I said . There is a shortfall which they personally will have to make up ( 1 director came too late to the board and was found liable for any damages but still was in breach of the Companies act for reckless trading)
        Shipley personally might want to avoid the taint of bankruptcy and is likely to have assets or her own or with her husband to cover the outstanding…
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:31pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Unlike lefty losers like ztev, Dame Jenny Shipley would have no problem accessing a few mill if the expected appeal fails.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:21pm
  - ztev
    
    You have slipped up peter, as normally your views have interesting information.
    But Shipley and her board members were in breach of the Companies act
    
    The relevant provision is section 135 of the Companies Act 1993:
    
    A director of a company must not –
    
    Agree to the business of the company being carried on in a manner likely to create a substantial risk of serious loss to the company’s creditors; or
    Cause or allow the business of the company to be carried on in a manner likely to create a substantial risk of serious loss to the company’s creditors.
    
    hat tip Fortune Manning
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:28am
    - pentwig
      
      ztev(micky)
      bored?
      nothing good to pen about CoL?
      must be to flick through your unused law books
      sigh!
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:38am
    - peterwn
      
      Either the evidence does not stack up or (unlikely) the SFO or MBIE may still be pondering the matter. If there was to be a prosecution, it would have happened by now.
      
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      March 2, 2019 12:26pm
      - ztev
        
        Gibberish
        the liquidators took action for a breach under the companies act, and have been awarded damages ( for the creditors) from the directors.
        A breach is a breach, its a civil action in this instance, as it wasnt found they were criminal breaches, just a failure of their duties to the company.
        
        Either way Shipley is goneski from any govt board.
        As one lawyer involved in this case said – it was a case of someone who was a ‘commercial nobody’ ends up as Chairman of a $100 mill company.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:24pm
    - Justitia
      
      Yes ztev, that’s “Reckless Trading”.
      
      Here’s another interesting provision in section 380 of the Act:
      
      “Every director of a company commits an offence and is liable on conviction to the penalties set out in section 373(4) if—
      (a)
      the company incurs a debt (the debt); and
      (b)
      the company—
      (i)
      is insolvent at the time that it incurs the debt; or
      (ii)
      becomes insolvent by incurring the debt; or
      (iii)
      is insolvent at the time that it incurs debts that include the debt; or
      (iv)
      becomes insolvent by incurring debts that include the debt; and
      (c)
      the director knows, at the time when the company incurs the debt, that the company is insolvent or will become insolvent as a result of incurring the debt or other debts that include the debt; and
      (d)
      the director’s failure to prevent the company incurring the debt is dishonest.
      (5)
      In subsection (4), insolvent means that the company is unable to pay its debts.”
      
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      March 2, 2019 1:44pm
    - Viking2
      
      Quite correct.
      
      Peterwn.
      Have read of this.
      It details the situation very well.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12208418
      
      Shipley should be cleaned out if for no other reason than she was and remains ignorant.
      Shipley and her running mates Rchardson and Bolger caused hundreds of people to loose their businesses and move offshore because of their inept leadership and behavoir when in politics. This is a small amount of justice for those but little justice for the creditors of her ignorant behavoir at Mainzeal.
      
      The Chinnaman should be pursued in China as well. Maybe the political parties and Shipley who currently suck the Chitcoms for funds can organize that he recompenses the rest of the money owed to creditors. They have been known to come after their own here and have our govt. acquiesce to their demands
      That would be fair.
      
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      March 2, 2019 7:12pm
  - KevOB
    
    There are tough issues there. Directors are at risk of the integrity of the information available to them.
    
    I have advocated that for deposit taking companies if they fail from the usual, borrowing-short-lending-long, the directors should be imprisoned. Some practices have been proved to be too risky over centuries of experience.
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:34am
    - peterwn
      
      Mainzeal was not a deposit taking company (unlike Bridgecorp and other companies where directors were punished usually for dud investor statements).
      I consider that the law should be amended to make this sort of thing an ‘administrative breach’ with the ability to impose a ‘civil’ penalty. Standard of proof in such cases is ‘balance of probabilities’.
      
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      March 2, 2019 12:30pm
      - ztev
        
        Ex National Ministers were on the board of Bluechip- they seemed to raise money out of national party meetings.
        It seems the liquidators of Bluechip didnt have access to litigation funding and couldnt afford litigation other wise some more dickhead former ministers would have lost their shirts
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:34pm
  - Jack5
    
    Shipton taken for a ride? Bullshit.
    
    Read Brian Gaynor’s excellent analysis in the Hooerald today:
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12208648
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:46am
    - peterwn
      
      I agree with Bryan’s article. I still contend that Jenny Shipley (not Shipton) was taken for a ride by those who controlled Mainzeal. However as the Judgment showed she and other directors should have been aware of potential problems and took steps to avoid being taken for a ride.
      Some years ago someone I know was a CEO of one of the associated companies – he was taken for a ride too. I suspect this damaged his career. He would probably have become a CEO of one of NZ’s top 50 companies if it were not for that episode.
      
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      March 2, 2019 12:41pm
      - Swifty
        
        I had a yarn about this with a very experienced company director (and professional company secretary) on Thursday night.
        
        We agreed that Shipley will have been under tremendous pressure both to Yan and to fulfill the responsibilities of her directorships, that she has been taken advantage of, but also that she had the option of walking away at any time, where she felt unable to carry out her responsibilities, and didn’t take it.
        
        Taking these gigs people (and absolutely politicians) are taking a risk.
        
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        March 2, 2019 12:55pm
      - peterwn
        
        Swiftly – fully agree. She should have walked if she felt uneasy and could not get proper assurances.
        That is what the Judge told Bruce Davidson (former Auckland District Law Society Chair). He claimed he was powerless to act since Bridgecorp’s sole shareholder held all the cards. The Judge said he should have resigned – and Bridgecorp would have imploded there and then.
        
        Jenny had been successful as a director of properly run companies such as Genesis Power and her political background and knowledge would have been of value to the Board. Other directors would have had skills in different areas and there is an Audit and Risk Committee to take care of things.
        With Mainzeal there was a small Board with no Audit and risk Committee. To be a director there she needed broad Governance skills that she did not have. She was out of her depth but did not realise it.
        Also Genesis has a wide shareholding with some major shareholders especially the Crown (effectively the Treasury). They keep a broad overview of such companies and will act if they perceive governance shortcomings.
        Mainzeal (like Bridgecorp) had one shareholder who effectively ruled the roost and arguably the directors are appointed more for image than for their governance contributions.
        
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        March 2, 2019 1:54pm
      - ztev
        
        reality is Shipley along with almost all of her cabinet colleagues are commercial nobodies, and overate their skills in a boardroom.
        Much like the current national leadership and ‘small’ business skills in private companies dont translate in the big world where fat directors fees beckon.
        Same goes with English… there is no way he understands the Aussie retail group hes involved with, and of course there wont be any ‘life on a farm’ LOL
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:39pm
      - Swifty
        
        I tend to agree ztev.
        
        Of course, Labour’s talent is lower still.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:51pm
      - Jack5
        
        Re Peterwn at 1.54
        
        Jennifer Mary Shipley was appointed to the board of Richina (Mainzeal’s parent) in March 2004.
        
        She became a director of Genesis in November 2009. That’s five and a half years later.
        
        So this point of yours, Peterwn, isn’t quite right:
        
        “Jenny had been successful as a director of properly run companies such as Genesis Power and her political background and knowledge would have been of value to the Board. “
        
        Richard Ci Liang Yan wanted Shipley on the Richina and Mainzeal boards not because of her commercial experience, but because of her prestige as a former National Prime Minister, and for her influence and contacts.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:41pm
slightlyrighty

I wait for the media to wake up to the information about Jacinda’s background that was posted here yesterday.

I suspect that I may be waiting in vain, but I have started to note a distinct change of tone in how the actions of the COL are being reported. This may be confirmation bias caused by my search engines, but I do feel that gloss is certainly coming off this government and the PM in particular.

She is not looking well. She is under immense pressure. Her background (Chip shop, Gift Shop, Supermarket) has marked her as someone ill prepared for the rigors that is being PM. Helen Clark, for all her faults, was at least prepared for the role.

I think, that at some time in the next 12 months, the pressure of being PM will become too much for someone who is not only hopelessly ill prepared for being the PM, but has the pressure of being a new Mum in the mix as well. There will be a breakdown, or a meltdown. It will be public, and it won’t be pretty.
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March 2, 2019 8:17am
- Yvette
  
  Slightlyrighty – as well as the small business experience of fush and chip shop, gift shop, and supermarket , Jacinda Ardern’s one Qualification is in Communication Studies (BCS) in politics and public relations, but you could wonder about it too –
  
  Yesterday Ardern weighed in on the Momo self-harm YouTube controversy with most media items showing showing her in an image split with that of Momo – although fortunately in most cases with a caption to distinguish the two. Why would she be so silly as to allow that – not Ardern, but Momo?
  
  And, more broadly, the Tax Working Group’s report, now garners headlines like “Political Roundup: Defeat looms for the Government on the Capital Gains Tax”, with the time for such reaction to ferment being allowed by Ardern’s planning, or lack of it – a vacuum with all of March still and much of April, before they announce anything concrete for voters to concentrate on – surely a disaster in communication, in politics, and public relations.
  
  “So come with me, where dreams are born, and time is never planned.
  Just think of happy things, and your heart will fly on wings,
  forever, in Never Never Land!” – Peter Pan and Tinker Bell
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:24am
- Swifty
  
  Yep, I distinctly recall several senior Labour folk saying to me personally that Clark was ‘the most qualified PM we’ve ever had’ (I regret now not asking them to define ‘qualified’) and, if they were honest, they must concede that now we have, by any measure, NZ’s least qualified PM.
  
  Done f’all, achieved nothing, no government experience, never a minister, a career pollie.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:27am
- stigie
  
  You know i love a damn good meltdown !~
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:33am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Fondue or chocolate fountain?
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:19pm
- holysheet
  
  Cannot come soon enough. Time for her to get off the stage and go be a proper mum.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:37am
- nasska
  
  …..”and it won’t be pretty”…..
  
  As always beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:35am
  - stigie
    
    Not pretty at all !~
    
    https://i1.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Winston-Peters-NZH.jpg
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:55am
- Viking2
  
  Well she can retire and become a director of perhaps Lawn Mower Sales Inc. Do about as good of a job as Shipley.
  
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  March 2, 2019 7:16pm
Manolo

The old pervert joins the party:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/432131-exclusive-inside-joe-bidens-campaign-in-waiting

Joe Biden has a campaign-in-waiting as soon as he decides to launch a White House bid.

In recent weeks, the former vice president’s longtime advisers Steve Ricchetti and Mike Donilon have led a string of meetings with potential aides to fill out the campaign if Biden makes a decision to enter the race, sources tell The Hill.

Many of the positions would be filled by long-running Biden aides, a number of whom worked in the White House during the Obama administration and are acutely familiar with his style.
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March 2, 2019 8:20am
- harvey wilson
  
  Sweet split the vote and give Andrew Yang more of a chance.
  
  Bernie and Hillary step right up too, Bernies ties to hateful anti Semitic activists promoting Sharia law for America are bound to sink him and Hilarys history of……. we have neither the time or space to list all of those here but you get the picture.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:24am
Happychappy

It seems like Labour is not getting it’s own way on crime in the Government’s select committee.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/03/01/467699/hold-opposition-to-labours-corrections-law-changes
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March 2, 2019 8:26am
harvey wilson

What lies and hateful slurs will Ztev and Muttonbird be posting today?

They seemed very angry that anyone question dear leaders paucity of real world experience and were releasing weapons grade squirrels all over the place.
Muttonbird in particular having failed at life is probably living vicariously through Ardern as she has no apparent talent either but has somehow managed to reach the pms job.
Sadly no such outcome awaits the similarly useless Bird who will continue struggling week to week in his bedsit.
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March 2, 2019 8:41am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Could you expand a little on Muttonbird’s life failures, and perhaps contrast those failures with your own successes?
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:46am
  - Nookin
    
    Don’t be silly, MM. The whole idea of stereotyping is that one does not have to justifiy one’s jaundiced barbs with trivial matters such as fact. If fact was a pre-requisite, this would be a most boring and unedifying blog.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:00am
    - waikatogirl
      
      “Never a truer word said in jest…”
      
      Sometimes we even manage a few correct predictions.
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:14am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Mikenmildagain.
    
    No, I’m not going to.
    
    I have seen Muttonbird on this and two other forums behave like an utterly appalling piece of human garbage , he was banned three times from one of those forums -the last time permanently and once from the standard. He lies and accuses people who disagree with him of being racists or being mentally ill to shut them up.
    
    He’s said he wants people murdered and is still sticking to the bizarre lie that National paid someone to go to the labour youth camp and grope teenagers and then get convicted to discredit labour.
    
    Hes is an awful toxic human being who hides behind the shield of sanctimony leftwing politics affords him and I’ll mock him every chance I get.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:02am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Perhaps his erratic thinking is due to being a lawnmower fan.
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:18am
      - Swifty
        
        He could never afford it.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:52am
      - holysheet
        
        Swifty, please tell us how you know how much it costs.
        
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        March 2, 2019 10:21am
      - Swifty
        
        Contacts, dear boy. Contacts.
        
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        March 2, 2019 10:41am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Yup, I had a bit of verbal jousting with him yesterday. A despicable type, with no redeeming qualities. In case you are reading this Muttonbird, the difference between you and I is that I can choose not to be a racist. You have no choice about being a moron.
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:37am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        BTW that should be between “you and me”. Apologies to all those offended.
        
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        March 2, 2019 5:51pm
  - Viking2
    
    Muttonbird
    
    Muttonbirds are species of petrel, especially shearwaters, whose young are harvested for food and other uses before they fledge in Australia and New Zealand. The English term “muttonbird” originally emerged among settlers on Norfolk Island as the strong taste and fattiness of these birds’ meat was likened to mutton. The Māori name for the birds, tītī, is also widely used in New Zealand.
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    The short-tailed shearwater or slender-billed shearwater, also called yolla or moonbird, and commonly known as the muttonbird in Australia, is the most abundant seabird species in Australian waters, and is one of the few Australian native birds in which the chicks are commercially harvested. Wikipedia
    
    Gays snubbed in mutton bird rules – NZ Herald
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3601147
    
    By ANNE BESTON Excluding gay and de facto partners from the annual mutton bird harvest could breach human rights law, says the Ministry of Jus.
    
    Excluding gay and de facto partners from the annual mutton bird harvest could breach human rights law, says the Ministry of Justice.
    
    Mutton birds, also called sooty shearwaters but known by Maori as “titi”, are seabirds considered a great delicacy by Maori.
    
    The yearly harvest of juveniles is a prized tradition and one of the few culls of native species allowed.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3601147
    
    Muttonbird clearly described.
    A fatty little juvenile liked by gays.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:47am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      I see Muttonbird has gone back to his cave… No splatterings from him on GD today. No strike either, ( I checked the roll of dishonour). ZTEV, unfortunately, can’t take a hint but I suppose we’ll have to egg him on to the point he loses it and gets the boot for a while. He will, he just can’t control himself.
      
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      March 2, 2019 5:46pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Someone with as much racist vitriol as mutton has definitely not had a happy life.
    
    You on the other hand seem to be a well rounded abject failure.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:13am
  - srylands
    
    Just hanging in there for strike 9.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:26am
- Swifty
  
  Yep, both quite nasty yesterday.
  
  I’ve noticed the nastiness rises in proportion to the hurt they’re feeling – so they must have been hurting real bad yesterday.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:50am
  - Tall Man
    
    Have look at the posts regarding the South African lass today.
    
    So much hatred is quite revealing.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:14am
    - Swifty
      
      No one hates quite like the left.
      
      It’s what drives them.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KeX5OZr0A4
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:50am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    It’s called the Ztev Effect: the frequency and level of diversion of ztev posts is inversely proportional to the validity of criticism/pillory of Labour and/or Ardern
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:47am
- marcw
  
  Not sure if they post at weekends – public servants and all that. Also, no internet in Mum’s basement so they stick to listening to Red Radio and reading Mein Camp.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:27am
kevn

The 2 downtick kings (of nothing) on KB now septicboy is on holiday.
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March 2, 2019 8:45am
Manolo

Norman, the despicable Australian communist, predicted $200 per barrel some years ago.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/01/oil-markets-opec-us-crude-exports-global-economy-in-focus.html

U.S. West Texas Intermediate futures fell $1.42, or 2.5%, to settle at $55.80 a barrel.

The imbecile Greens also said this in 2015:
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/01/greens_predicted_petrol_would_be_10_a_litre_by_2018.html
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March 2, 2019 8:53am
- Ultima
  
  I remembered Norman, when he was co-leader with a penis, in a news clip annoyed about some new roads being built saying why would anyone want to build roads if all they do is fill up with cars. I thought what an idiot, roads with no cars is a waste of money just like trains with no people in it, which is what he wanted to do.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:23am
  - JibberJabber
    
    I remembered Norman, when he was co-leader with a penis,
    
    Allegedly.
    
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    March 2, 2019 12:20pm
Yvette

Jacinda Ardern instructed Government ministers to be empathetic during Jami-Lee Ross saga
If they did talk, they needed to show compassion and she even provided talking points instructing them what to say, “These are issues for the National Party caucus. There’s always some concerns when there’s a human side to these situations.”

However Ardern appears to have missed emailing her “own” self-appointed Deputy, since Winston acted like a total arsehole in the face of another Member’s mental ill-health.

The inquiry that Mr Bridges launched—now, he’s the leader of the National Party pro tem—was on 28 August, to be conducted by, guess who? PricewaterhouseCoopers—they’re pretty big, but it doesn’t stop there, oh no—and Simpson Grierson. That was 22 days ago. They’re trying to find somebody who we know—that is, the identity of the leaker in the National Party—and guess who’s paying for the inquiry? Why, the New Zealand taxpayer, through the Leader of the Opposition’s leadership office funding. The New Zealand taxpayer is paying for this absolutely mindless, hopeless inquiry, the end pathway and result of which we already know. So why don’t we just cut to the chase here? Pay the money over to us, and we’ll give you the answer. Ha, ha! It is phenomenal.
… The member—that’s Mr Bridges—needs to reveal to the public who the leaker is, or I will.”
– Winston Peters, Hansard, Motions: Women’s Suffrage in New Zealand 125th Anniversary

Winston berates Simon Bridges after 22 days of trying to determine which of his MPs might be mentally un-well, but is Winston Peters – in a slightly paranoid obsession – still looking for his super leaker after 552 days.

And is Ardern just poking the Jami-Lee Ross issue along a little, or trying to appear empathetic and compassionate, ready for the Wellbeing Budget?
Who leaked Ardern’s email and why?
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March 2, 2019 8:53am
- stigie
  
  “but is Winston Peters – in a slightly paranoid obsession – still looking for his super leaker after 552 days.”
  
  The super leaker is probably Winston Peters himself to gain some traction in the media before the last election because NZF and Winston wasn’t being talked about !~
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:15am
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    No, the info went from WINZ to the Minsters office, to the PMs office…and a journalists desk.
    
    Work it out, Bennett( who shouldnt even be in the loop) has previous form like other national ministers for breaching peoples privacy…they just cant help themselves
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:36am
    - Tall Man
      
      “No, the info went from WINZ to the Minsters office, to the PMs office…and a journalists desk.”
      
      Now I think you’re doing an ardern… you know…telling a lie.
      
      Please produce the evidence that it went from the PM’s office to a journalist…
      
      If that were the case and there was evidence the case would be done and dusted.
      
      But hey, stick to the ardern the liar and wynston the thief method and repeat the lie enough and the idiots, like yourself, will soon accept the lie as truth.
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:06am
tedbear

Phil Twyford reports “The Ministry of Health says 6000 children are admitted each year for ‘housing-sensitive hospitalisations’.”

He said these children had been found to be nearly four times more likely to be re-hospitalised and 10 times more likely to die in the following 10 years.
“We cannot continue to accept this.”

To end those 6000 children admissions each year for ‘housing-sensitive hospitalisations, he’s issued new standards for all rental homes to include amongst other things a fixed heating device that can heat the living room to 18C plus an extractor fan in the bathroom and kitchen. Windows must be operable too.

Now for the life of me I can’t figure out how having heaters, fans and operable windows just installed in a house actually stop kids getting sick.

We on kiwiblog know that when we’re cold we put more clothes on, when we’re too hot we take some off and when a room needs heating or cooling we know what to do to rectify the situation.

Not so the people in Twyford’s world.
How many stories have we read that people don’t know that ventilation is necessary to prevent mould for a kickoff?

Clearly then it’s not enough to just have a heating device capable of 18C plus an extractor fan in the bathroom and kitchen and functioning windows installed.
All these devices must have auto on/off sensors and motors on windows.

Quite how we automate the kids in Twyford’s world with snot dripping from their noses because they’re running around with no shoes on in mid winter is another matter.
Perhaps the parents of the 6000 need a robot nanny in their houses.
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March 2, 2019 9:09am
- fluffykiwi
  
  And bare feet in winter will not make you sick, the fact that you are running around will possibly make you healthier, bare feet or not.
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:20am
  - tedbear
    
    Not so healthy are the sores on the feet. Even at 74, I’m almost always bare foot inside. Outside on wet grass or concrete is quite another matter.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:43am
- waikatogirl
  
  Lack of real nutrition for these kids who are getting sick wouldn’t be an issue Phil?? Parents feeding their children on packaged food or fast food instead of making the effort to cook a well-balanced meal nearly every night is probably a larger and harder problem to fix than idiots not knowing how to open a window.
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:26am
  - tedbear
    
    The robot nanny plan is looking more and more attractive WG.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:29am
    - waikatogirl
      
      You can’t help stupid tedbear. If they can’t manage to live in a house without nanny state there to wipe their noses then there is not much hope for the country’s overall wellbeing.
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:51am
- cmm
  
  Sitting here at my desk in a Tshirt I look at the thermometer: 18 degrees.
  
  18 degrees C is s stupidly high WHO temperature that might make sense in Europe/Canada/elsewhere where temperatures stay below freezing for months on end. Here they seldom do.
  
  Kids endured way lower than 18 degrees back in pre-colonial times when the world was perfect.
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:37am
  - Universal Smith
    
    I think Maori should be supplied with same standard of housing they had before YT ruined everything. That should at least give some perspective.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:46am
    - tedbear
      
      Well with all the $billions from the taxpayers handed to the chiefs on a plate they can have whatever standard of housing they choose.
      It’s not as though they’re so many.
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:02am
  - KevOB
    
    16 degrees is reasonable.
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:21am
- Viking2
  
  What makes mould grow in my home?
  
  Mould enters your home as tiny spores. The spores need moisture to begin growing, digesting and destroying. Moulds can grow on almost any surface, including; wood, ceiling tiles, wallpaper, paints, carpet, sheet rock, and insulation. The mould grows best when there is lots of moisture from a leaky roof, high humidity, or flood. There is no way to get rid of all moulds and mould spores from your home. But you can control mould growth by keeping your home dry. Below is a video of how mould spores reproducing:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=43&v=sbaWbiFt_Go
  
  When is mould a problem?
  
  You know you have mould when you smell the “musty” odour or see small black or white specks along your damp bathroom or basement walls. Mould is often found in areas where water has damaged building materials and furniture from flooding or plumbing leaks. Mould often grows in rooms with both high water usage and humidity, such as kitchens, bathrooms, laundry rooms, and basements. If you notice mould or know of water-damaged areas in your home, it is time to take action to control its growth.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:33am
- Viking2
  
  Mold The Truth We have all been scammed
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlQytXkRnOM
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:41am
  - Viking2
    
    here is a good tip.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRM-IsGzLug
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:54am
- KevOB
  
  Where are the Home Educators to see that the masses are complying with Dr Twy’s fraud of ignorance and incompetence? Once we had windows and wall cavity insulation. Now we public health edicts and walls full of critters living in the damp batty linings. Even open doors can ventilate homes.
  
  Control never lurks far from communist minds.
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:19am
- Durden
  
  The report simply says ilnesses related to housing. How did they link the kids to rentals? All 6000 of them were in rentals. If not how many in rentals.
  
  How many from poor quality privately held homes? Inherited, Maori housing, heavily mortgaged. Smoking and drug houses. So no money for basic improvements.
  
  He is just lying to distract from his kiwibuild fiasco and virtue signalling. No one is asking hard questions.
  
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  March 2, 2019 7:08pm
  - Viking2
    
    Good question for the shadow Health Minister. Can the Minister table the document that is a collective of the properly researched information that makes up his claim the 6000 children to hospital was as a result of poor quality housing and what proof has he the information is factual?
    
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    March 2, 2019 7:25pm
  - artemisia
    
    Overcrowding is a major cause of dampness, not helped by life incompetent occupants who can’t manage to open a window now and again.
    
    Those who can’t get a private rental very often end up moving in with the rellies. Landlords, including Housing NZ, can do something about overcrowding but homeowners can do what they like.
    
    Damp and mould are already landlord responsibility if structural, otherwise occupants. Never mind, make greedy landlords pay and hope tenants will change their ways.
    
    Some hope.
    
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    March 2, 2019 7:27pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110954682/things-you-might-have-missed-because-the-government-wanted-you-to

Stacey Kirk explodes the “Most Transparent Government Ever” myth
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March 2, 2019 9:10am
- Universal Smith
  
  They are on track to exceed the corruption of the Clark regime.
  
  Don’t expect the corruption index to reflect that fact though. Ardern has the right connections.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Anyone taking bets on when Stuff will close down comments on this article?
  
  Most are not saying nice things about this Government.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:10am
  - stigie
    
    O dear, how sad, and it’s about bloody time !~
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:16am
  - Joely Doe
    
    This one is being actively censored.
    I managed to get a couple of comments past the censors, then they came back and deleted one of them (after publication and upvotes, no less).
    Meanwhile pet Lefties (Fairwages is the latest) are being given free reign to attempt to defend the indefensible.
    Makes you wonder what the actual count would be if they didn’t moderate it… 95% anti-jacinda?
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:09am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Looks like comments closed about 11am.
    (3hrs ago from now…)
    So Article was only taking for comments for about 6hrs.
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:16pm
    - Wired-one
      
      Not only that, but if you click on that article now, you cannot even read the comments, they’ve disappeared.
      
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      March 2, 2019 5:01pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Fear.
        
        They are terrified of any public criticism of ardern the liar.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:48pm
- ztev
  
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  Stacey just rewrites national party propaganda….shes practically on the payroll and indeed may well have been on the payroll back in early 2009…big gap in her CV
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:17am
  - Swifty
    
    Well, score one for us then, but doesn’t even begin to address the legion of lefty hacks that have taken money from either Labour or the Greens.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:28am
  - mandk
    
    Hey, lefty scumbag, how about rebutting what Stacey Kirk wrote, instead of just trying to smear her?
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:30am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    That “big Gap in her CV” seems to coincide with the Year she was doing her Graduate Diploma in Journalism 2010.
    https://nz.linkedin.com/in/stacey-kirk-6b87b31b
    
    I s’pose there could be other reasons why folks have a break of 1 year or so in their cv…. such as babies, travel, sickness, writing a book, pissing around….
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:34am
    - Viking2
      
      The left never do that!
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:02am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      experimenting with substances.. Just reading between the lines….
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:42am
  - Tall Man
    
    Oh well reject all her comments then if it makes you feel alright…
    
    However, why not try really hard to be a big boy and refute her arguments?
    
    Pretty tough to do that when she is correct although, get ardern to spout a couple of lies to make you feel better.
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:00am
  - KevOB
    
    Please explain whose payroll you are on.
    Haven’t you realised people are turning against this COL?
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:09am
  - pdm
    
    Ztev – Stacey Kirk makes a pleasant change from Tracey Watkins who may as well sit in the Labour Caucus. –
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:17am
- tf78
  
  slightly – that was a delicious Saturday breakfast, thank you – I’d read the article, but didn’t read the comments before now.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:26am
- Swifty
  
  Man, the lefties are getting hammered on that post.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:53am
  - ABS
    
    The majority of lefty responses are all whataboutism and nasty nats comments. There’s not even an attempt to rebut any argument.
    
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    March 2, 2019 12:14pm
- Tall Man
  
  I see a couple of lefties, including josephine franks, gave it a go to dispute the facts but all they could through out was childish rhetoric, much like ardern the liar really.
  
  I doubt I have ever seen a more complete annihilation of the lefties on a stuff article.
  
  The tide is turning finally.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:02pm
cmm

I was reflecting on the Rouxle Le Roux case a bit last night and had some thoughts on home detention.

It seems to me she is entirely the wrong candidate for HD, in major part to the people that surround her and enable her bad behaviour.

HD is, effectively, a prison sentence served at home. It isn’t just being grounded.

A good part of a prison sentence is the “corrections” part. Moving a person out of their normal (bad) environment into a structured (and better) environment where they can reset their lives. HD only does that if the person is surrounded by stable people.

Breaking HD conditions is, in principle anyway, the same as breaking conditions in prison.

Going out when not permitted is no different from breaking out of prison. Giving an HD prisoner contraband drugs/alcohol is no different from smuggling booze and alcohol into prison.

On the face of it, Le Roux’s mother is a huge factor. If I recall correctly, she tried to cover for the daughter when the crash happened and now with some cock and bull story about construction.

I’d not be surprised if the mother was also supplying booze.

This is not an environment in which Le Roux is going to learn. HD was a poor choice.
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March 2, 2019 9:25am
- Tall Man
  
  The best thing for a disconnected lass like that would have been a term or three at a charter school.
  
  Oh, that’s right, they didn’t fit the lefty thinking tossers plan so out they went.
  
  The funny thing is that they seemed to be successful for those that are most at risk..and many still are.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:19am
  - cmm
    
    Charter school would not take her away from the enablers in her life.
    
    Army?
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:25am
    - Tall Man
      
      From my limited knowledge of the “charter schools” that we had running up North, the students were taught to value their own judgements and independence and not just “run with the crowd” or have stupid decisions made for them.
      
      I fully understood the maori mps supporting them and was stunned when they let them “go” so easily.
      
      Rhetoric and lies are all this coalition is fit for.
      
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      March 2, 2019 10:54am
- ztev
  
  Rehab , either while in the slammer or on the living room couch while on home D doesnt happen like you think.
  She isnt a person who is going through the philosophy of it all in her time time of reflection.
  Unless there is structured ‘re education’ probably in a group situation, sadly Miss R will be the ‘IT Girl’ for the media for many years to come
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:22am
  - Tall Man
    
    A “charter school” perhaps…
    
    That’s right, your lot of liars got rid of those after all, we can’t have maori getting educated and cease committing crime can we?
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:51am
stigie

Just to remind people out there what a complete arse this government is and just not fit to govern !~

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/r/w/l/5/n/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240×700.1u256i.png/1551450675284.jpg
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March 2, 2019 10:05am
- tedbear
  
  Every face tells a story.
  Shit. Did she really say that?
  Shit. I cannot believe she actually said that!
  Shit. Did I really say that?
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:16am
- cmm
  
  Don’t just focus on Jones.
  
  Woods looks like someone just ate the last pie.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:20am
  - tedbear
    
    Yep got it cmm, she crapped her pants too. See above post.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:32am
  - tf78
    
    Woods looks like she would rather be at a pie eating contest.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:48am
Wired-one

Anyone watch The Nation today?. Ardern said there was a poll question that asked if you would be in favour of a CGT, if it led to a tax switch, she stated there was overwhelming support for it or words to that effect. What poll is this?, every poll I have seen has been in the region of 65-75% against a CGT. Did she once again lie to the nation?
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March 2, 2019 10:19am
- cmm
  
  “if it led to a tax switch”
  
  But it wont will it. It is just another tax.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:21am
- tedbear
  
  WTF is a tax switch? Something that will buy you a 500g block of butter or 1/4 of a packet of fags every week?
  
  Let’s ditch voting and referendums too eh? Everytime the most honest/transparent/open CoL want to change something they can run a poll. That’ll be fine.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:28am
- Tall Man
  
  Well…I have heard through a few sources that
  
  ardern is a liar
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:50am
- KevOB
  
  Ardern is alluding to substituting CGT for income tax. Only the higher strivers would pay CGT so she can buy the votes of “her people” by punishing the others.
  
  CGT is not about tax at all but introducing a full blown communist state controlled by the elite socialists.
  
  Grabbing control of education at all levels is also part of that.
  
  Beware a tiger dressed as a pussy cat.
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:04am
  - tf78
    
    Kev – or a Trojan Horse.
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:25am
- dog_eat_dog
  
  https://twitter.com/NewshubNationNZ/status/1101599410583007232
  
  She told porkies here too; the Axis Affordable Homes were a measure to introduce affordable home ownership options at Hobsonville instead of more state houses. They were ballots for First Home Buyers that were cheaper than the supposedly radical Kiwibuild is delivering.
  
  Why does this go unchallenged?
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:15am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  …at 18:26
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2019/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-admits-fixing-housing-crisis-not-easy.html
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:30am
  - Wired-one
    
    Thanks Maggy, how does she not get called out on this nonsense?. Bit like how she was explaining to the MSM in her press conference last week, how they should be framing the CGT debate. Unbelievable.
    
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    March 2, 2019 11:35am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Have you ever tried arguing/debating with an uninformed person?
      
      You go around and around in circles…
      It can be very time-consuming….
      
      Sometimes best to let the uninformed person twitter on….to reveal his/her shallowness to all & sundry.
      
      (technique also works well with KB trolls)
      
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      March 2, 2019 11:42am
      - Piniwi
        
        Thanks MW it is a sad pattern that has become apparent as more seem drawn to engage with what also seems to be an increasing troll count. Thankfully many resist the first reaction to take them to task by choosing to stick to the topic which is abundantly of more interest and significance than any troll. The simplicity of a down-tick is a much stronger rejection of their interference given even greater frustration is inflicted as RED ticks accumulate.
        Conversely the SLG is very concerned that her RED ticks seem to be melting away as fast as her gloss. Lol
        
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        March 2, 2019 1:53pm
- toby1845
  
  “Did she really once again lie to the nation?”
  
  LOL! I can’t believe you would need to ask that.
  
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  March 2, 2019 12:14pm
Maggie Pie

This just happened.
I went to the doctor yesterday and he gave me my usual scrip for pills and creams. My partner suggested that intead of giving it to our local thieving chemist we should try the Chemist Wraehouse cos they will do it for free. Headed all the way out to St Lukes and it took us about ten minutes to find a park. He waited in the car while I went in. The joint was packed with what looked to me to be mainly benes. The Japanese chemist girl at the counter took my scrip and gave me a buzzer thing and told me it would buzz when the meds were ready to collect. I expained my partner was outside waiting in the car and hoped it wouldn’t take to lomg. She said “about 5 minutes, just have a brose around the shop while your waitng”. Twenty minutes later the buzzer went off! My partner was fuming. He said “they can stick there free presriptions up there arse, hes got better things to do” 🙁
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March 2, 2019 10:21am
- holysheet
  
  At least that cream will be put to good use when you “stick it”
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:27am
- ztev
  
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  Entitlement 101
  
  They feel they are above the common herd while they get ‘their socialist medicines’, when of course they are the same.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:34am
  - Tall Man
    
    Is there anyone other than ardern the liar that you don’t hate?
    
    What a sad life you must have.
    
    Unfortunately for you, it will get worse when you realise you helped elect a “front” for wynston first enabling him to vent his particular jaundiced brand of “payback” on New Zealand.
    
    You of course, will just be flicked out of the way…which is probably no more than you deserve.
    
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    March 2, 2019 10:45am
- Tall Man
  
  The pharmacist we use and pay always takes 15 plus minutes.
  
  Solution….Get your GP to fax the scripts to the pharmacy and it will be ready and waiting when you get there.
  
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  March 2, 2019 10:49am
  - MCos
    
    Every three months I need to go to the doctor for the same medication. The whole tedious business costs $28 total and takes an hour or so.
    Alternatively when I was in Bangkok I bought the stuff with no prescription and no waiting for $500 for three months.
    Take your pick.
    
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    March 2, 2019 1:33pm
    - Tall Man
      
      To be honest, I have done similar but you are seriously “tossing a coin” with meds in BK.
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:49pm
      - MCos
        
        In my case my problem was diagnosed over there at a top hospital. Insurance paid only a fraction of the cost of the medication and the hospital charged triple the price of identical pills from the drug store. Back here in NZ the doctors prescribe exactly the same stuff.
        Conversely my wife takes migraine medication that is replaced by a generic brand over there. I should imagine that’s when you could run into trouble.
        
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        March 2, 2019 4:15pm
  - Paulus
    
    Cost an extra $5 to fax the prescription to the Pharmacy.
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:39pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Not in my practice… 🙂
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:47pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Why on earth wpuld you down tick that?
        
        I guess we have to accept the occasional moron on board.
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:18pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  To be fair, I think my partner was more upset that i spent $72 in there on a bottle of my fav perfume – saved about 40 bucks on the usual price at Smith & Coughy. Wished I hadnt told him now.
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:01am
  - Tall Man
    
    Love doesn’t mean you have to share everything.
    
    A bit of sneaky perfuming then presenting him the result may have lessened the blow 🙂
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:48pm
RF

Ardern the liar was on Jamie McKays Saturday morning programme this morning. Pre recorded on Wednesday.

He told her many people were Anti CGT and if she was concerned about this Remember Soper has previously announced that she was crapping herself as she had under estimated the anti feeling.

The liar gabbled away furiously denying that there was a problem and she knew there would be debate.

True to form the liar talks non stop and when you later translate what she has said, she has not answered the bloody question.

I feel sorry for first fish when he suggests some bedroom entertainment. By the time she finishes telling him she agrees to whatever, he has fallen asleep hours before.
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March 2, 2019 11:03am
- stigie
  
  “By the time she finishes telling him she agrees to whatever,”
  
  He’s completely lost his hard on. Do you blame him..?
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:52am
  - pentwig
    
    good grief stigie
    how would he have ever got one in the first place?
    ugh!
    
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    March 2, 2019 12:38pm
- DigNap15
  
  She keeps saying she wants to have a debate.
  When is the debate and where will it be?
  Will she go on radio and have an hour on it like John Key used to?
  
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  March 2, 2019 12:33pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    She said on the Nation that “the polls show most Kiwis are for the CGT, and like Australians 95% of NZ’ers won’t be affected by the CGT.”
    REALLY?!! ?
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:06pm
    - Inandout
      
      Well moddies won’t be affected..as usual.
      
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      March 2, 2019 6:12pm
- DigNap15
  
  Will the result of the debate be binding?
  
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  March 2, 2019 12:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

Chief executive role up for grabs at Christchurch City Council | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/110976540/chief-executive-role-up-for-grabs-at-christchurch-city-council

… Paulson (Pavletich) comment on thread (in moderation) …

The Christchurch City Council was designed to fail back in 1989, with then Local Government Minister Dr Michael Bassets disastrous forced local government amalgamations.

There are two types of local government in this world – the small and the bad … which explains why the adjoining units of Selwyn and Waimakariri work, while in contrast, the costs – out – of control bureaucratically bloated Christchurch Council doesn’t.

Out of the Peoples Protest early 2012 ( google search … Christchurch: The Way Forward | Scoop News ) there were demands to start on the path of restoring community control … which subsequently Christchurch Mayor Lianne Dalziel and Chief Executive Dr Karleen Edwards supported … but sadly failed to achieve.

Why ?
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March 2, 2019 11:28am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … NEW ZEALAND: How much longer do we have to endure the KiwiBuild circus ? …
  
  … essential reading …
  
  Five out of 10 Kiwibuild homes in Wanaka sit empty | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ
  
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/five-10-kiwibuild-homes-in-wanaka-sit-empty
  
  Wanaka’s housing market is booming and affordable housing is in high demand, so why are five out of 10 KiwiBuild homes are sitting empty?
  
  More than 200 KiwiBuild homes have been earmarked for Wanaka’s Northlake subdivision with the expectation they’ll be built in the next two years.
  
  The original 10 were offered in a ballot, but only five have sold since October. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  .
  The KiwiBuild failure should galvanise urgent action on NZ’s housing disaster – EDITORIAL – The Listener
  
  https://www.noted.co.nz/currently/politics/kiwibuild-failure-galvanise-action-nz-housing-disaster/
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  .
  … read more … recently updated …
  
  Performance Urban Planning
  
  http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
  
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  March 2, 2019 11:58pm
Jack5

Maori are bringing a claim for part of the radio spectrum that will host 5G networks.

A claim has been lodged with the Waitangi Tribunal by Graeme Everton, a former Telecom radio spectrum technician. His mother, Rangiaho Everton, 19 years ago brought the claim to the tribunal which found that Maori had a right to fair and equitable access to radio spectrum.

What happened to that through, 2Degrees, makes interesting reading at the link below.

But, the radio spectrum, a traditional Maori asset? What next? The sun? Mars? The Moon?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12208669
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March 2, 2019 11:29am
- Manolo
  
  Some natives are lovely and greedy, aren’t they? The rings of Saturn are next…
  
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  March 2, 2019 1:36pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    The rings of Saturn were there when that sailor named Billy Hobson signed the Treaty. The 5G network was not there.
    I believe the “special people” have more right to rings of Saturn than they have to the 5G network.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:56pm
- Viking2
  
  Water. OK.
  
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  March 2, 2019 7:34pm
tf78

I’ve been wondering how Fixit is getting on. Remember he was going for an operation for his brain tumor. I hope all is good and wish him well.
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March 2, 2019 11:32am
Jack5

Good analysis by Brian Gaynor in the Hooerald today of the Mainzeal directors case.

Richina’s purchase of the State-owned tannery in Shanghai, with land rights that Gaynor says may now have a value of more than $US1 billion, figures large in the Mainzeal mess. Richard Yan seems to have ended up super rich, and that will really piss off Mainzeal’s unpaid suppliers and subcontractors.

Gaynor argues that Jenny Shipton, Yan, and the other directors, got off lightly with the penalties awarded.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12208648
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March 2, 2019 11:38am
- secondcumming
  
  Check out *Richard Yan’s pile* in the South Island where he’s forced to live these days.
  Poor bastard 😎
  
  Would *Mainzeal’s unsecured creditors* be spewing ….or not?
  
  https://twitter.com/TheNBR/status/1101278885163999233
  
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  March 2, 2019 12:01pm
  - Swifty
    
    What a scumbag.
    
    He should do the honourable thing and pay his creditors. By the sounds of it, he can afford to.
    
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    March 2, 2019 12:25pm
    - secondcumming
      
      You’re right there Swifty!
      
      As my father in-law sez, “What ever happened to the old days where a Chinaman would never owe you money for fear of ‘losing face’? They’re just like every other crooked bastard out there now.”
      
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      March 2, 2019 12:50pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    Why do we never see those law and order freaks on KB barking about tougher laws for white collar criminals?
    
    Funny that.
    
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    March 2, 2019 1:17pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  JACK5. My partner read the story about the Mainzael thing in the Herald today as well while he was waiting for me to come out of the chemist. He said that guy Dick Yan would never have gotten off so litely if hed tried to pull the same cunning stunt in his country of birth.
  Jus saying.
  
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  March 2, 2019 1:18pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    Or the criminal Shipley.
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:33pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Again you post lies.
      
      WTF are you taking?
      
      Please list her criminal charges or convictions?
      
      Take your addled brain elsewhere.
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:43pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      The thong is i don’t think you can reaaly hold Dame Jennifer resposible for what happened. My partner was listening to Rodney Hide this morning and he said that other than being PM, her early business experience was as a Kindy Teacher from Gore. She was rally only there as a figure head to make Mainzeal look important in the anual report stuff
      
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      March 2, 2019 3:10pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You can’t hold her responsible for accepting directorships and making a mess of them? Who should be held accountable for her botch ups?
        
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        March 2, 2019 4:20pm
      - Viking2
        
        True but directors and especially Chairpersons have responsibilities under the Law.
        She ignored the Law.
        
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        March 2, 2019 7:37pm
    - Universal Smith
      
      “Please list her criminal charges or convictions?”
      
      The scandal is there are none. Typical of how our corrupt system deals with white collar crime.
      
      Where is David Garrett demanding tough penalties?
      
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      March 2, 2019 4:32pm
      - Tall Man
        
        And yet labour and the rest of the sleazy coalition have had 18 months to make a change..they have not so currently, no criminal convictions.
        
        Put up or shut up.
        
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        March 2, 2019 8:21pm
ABS

The terminally confused and bewildered Martin van Beynan asks why we should even care about a capital gains tax if it only affects rich people (in his retarded, Labour sanctioned and financed view)
Of course I think we should tax reporters and politicians at 90% of their earnings, since I am neither why should I care?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/110950183/a-capital-gains-tax-will-target-the-rich–why-should-we-care
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March 2, 2019 12:32pm
- sooty
  
  Another one with no assests?
  
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  March 2, 2019 2:23pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Nope, no brains…
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:41pm
lifesgood

Curious question: How do you kiss someone with really buck teeth…asking for a fisherman friend.
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March 2, 2019 12:58pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I really enjoy the taste of sucking on a ‘Fisherman’s Friend’.
  Works if youve got a sore throte.
  
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  March 2, 2019 1:26pm
Universal Smith

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
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☻ = percentage of people who don’t like Simon
☠ = lunatic fringe of the National Party
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March 2, 2019 1:11pm
- lifesgood
  
  You sure carry a grudge. Is it because people are unkind about your saint Winston?
  
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  March 2, 2019 1:27pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    I don’t like Winston. But it is not about me you imbecile. It is about the poll results. Telling lies and shooting the messenger wont lift his popularity one iota. He is tremendously unpopular outside of a tiny group of extremist Nats, who are frankly an embarrassment to the Party.
    
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    March 2, 2019 1:31pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      “It’s not about me you imbecile”
      
      Let me fix that… We know it’s all about you US, you imbecile.
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:30pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Awful, no I have never been polled. You should be focusing on all those National supporters who do not support Simon. Not those of us who vote on policy not parties. National poll around the mid 40’s yet Simon can’t break double figures. Keep up the impotent tantrums. It will amuse me as National plunges headlong into another defeat.
        
        Dog tucker.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:40pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        You want me to focus on those who don’t support him, will you focus on those who do?
        
        Here’s a better idea, i’ll keep watching the cricket and pottering around the house doing some chores while you come up with some new conspiracies to entertain us all.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:57pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        You are conjuring up fantasies and I am looking at the polls. Why are Simon’s supporters both entitled and thick as pig shit?
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:10pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Did you just declare as one of his supporters? It’s a pretty good description of your good self
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:26pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    Of course these are the exact same people who also passionately defended Simon’s right hand man, Jamie Lee Ross, just a short while ago.
    
    They are all dog tucker and are disregarded by normal people.
    
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    March 2, 2019 1:42pm
    - starboard
      
      Liarbor trolls are obviously still shit scared of Simon Bridges.
      They know come debate time Simon will eat Ardern alive and then go back for seconds. SLG thinks she suffers anxiety now, wait until next year, heh.
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:36pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Labour trolls love Simon 5% and look forward to him debating Jacinda 44%
        
        Why would they want such an unpopular leader to go? You are a profoundly stupid little worm.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:44pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Speaking of a worm, had a piss lately? You really do sound like a dickless wanker.
        
        “Worm” FFS, how old are you?
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:45pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Please list the references where National party members on here were passionately defending jlr…
      
      You suffer from ardern the liar syndrome…the voices you hear in your head aren’t real.
      
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      March 2, 2019 2:40pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Tall Man – so what is your opinion of Simon’s right hand man? You can tell a lot about Simon by the company he keeps. No wonder he is less popular than ever.
        
        ✥Simon will never be PM.
        ✥God is not real.
        ✥Fact.
        
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        March 2, 2019 2:51pm
      - Tall Man
        
        As I said, list where Kiwibloggers were passionately defending the pos named jlr…
        
        You left out the most important “fact”…you have a bad case of obsession with Simon Bridges which is becoming a little pathetic.
        
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        March 2, 2019 6:17pm
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  March 2, 2019 6:17pm
Universal Smith

Meth enthusiast becomes concerned about sanding dust in her free house when they were doing it up for her.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/110896644/auckland-mums-hnz-home-stripped-of-leadbased-paint-without-her-knowledge
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March 2, 2019 1:23pm
- big bruv
  
  First of all, it’s not her fucking house. It’s one paid for by the tax payer and she should be bloody grateful.
  Secondly, this chick is looking for another payout from the same people who provide her with a house.
  She should be told to piss off on all counts.
  
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  March 2, 2019 2:12pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    But she spread her legs and now society owes her. Because – babies.
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:21pm
    - starboard
      
      Speaking of..hows that charitable daughter of yours?
      Asking for a friend.
      
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      March 2, 2019 3:20pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      For a moment I thought you were talking about SLG….
      
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      March 2, 2019 5:36pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I think he’s a closet “stardust” sniffer myself.
        
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        March 2, 2019 6:13pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Wanker, the man should though.
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:28pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Danielle Clent needs to be informed that it is not Bullen’s home
  
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  March 2, 2019 2:32pm
- Tall Man
  
  She certainly epitomises all that is wrong with state assisted housing.
  
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  March 2, 2019 2:37pm
RW Capitalist

Hipkins centralized education policy.
Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.
Vladimir Lenin
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March 2, 2019 1:55pm
- Tall Man
  
  I don’t think we have anything to fear.
  
  For a start, it will be a miracle if these numbskulls survive the 2020 election.
  
  Secondly, they can’t even build houses so how the hell are they going to set up and “influence” a “new” education system.
  
  They will be in committee until they finally leave the building.
  
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  March 2, 2019 2:35pm
  - DigNap15
    
    So why are they still so high in the polls?
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:39pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Primarily because we are not in an election cycle and so we have ardern the liar appearing in the media and not being challenged on her lies or inactivity.
      
      Simon Bridges on the other hand is being continually denied reasonable exposure and most of what is based on him is either derogatory or insultingly inaccurate.
      
      In an election cycle we have all leaders being profiled and there will be a readjustment, some down and others up.
      
      FFS, who cares what the media think about the leader of the National party at this point. Next year, he will get more air time and he will be seen more regularly and his popularity will grow.
      
      As an aside, look at the number of don’t knows in these surveys. It is very high and I believe extremely interesting.
      
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      March 2, 2019 5:49pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        “As an aside, look at the number of don’t knows in these surveys. It is very high and I believe extremely interesting”
        
        Yes they could not like Simon too. Very interesting.
        
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        March 2, 2019 5:58pm
      - Tall Man
        
        They didn’t like ardern the liar either or did that wee pearler escape your closed mind?
        
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        March 2, 2019 6:46pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    “For a start, it will be a miracle if these numbskulls survive the 2020 election.”
    
    Meanwhile…
    
    The TVNZ/Colmar Brunton poll released on Monday night had Labour at 45 per cent (up 2), National at 42 per cent (down 4), the Greens at 6 per cent (up 1), and NZ First at 3 per cent (down 1).
    
    In the preferred Prime Ministerial stakes Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is way ahead at 44 per cent while National leader Bridges is hovering at 6 per cent, along with National MP Collins, who is also at 6 per cent.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110684815/labour-ahead-of-national-in-another-poll
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:47pm
    - starboard
      
      “Colmar Brunton”
      
      Hey, thats where Iris works ! FAKE POLL !!!!!!!
      ….snigger
      
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      March 2, 2019 3:02pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Maybe. The previous one said Simon was at 5%. That was probably fake too. He is possibly at less.
        
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        March 2, 2019 3:07pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Irrelevant.
      
      The government has actually done nothing, neither good nor bad and it will not take long for the disappointment to grow.
      
      maori will not be happy, enough is never enough and they always think there is more to be had. They will turn against her and her own maori mps will also start a wee rumble.
      
      wynston the thief is well aware that his days are numbered and he is also well aware that the reaction to his party is a reaction to his decision to back ardern the liar.
      
      The green party members, not the trough swilling corrupt bunch in the house, will also tire of swallowing a dead rat and contrary to belief those members are not “red” but do care about the environmennt and banning plastic bags will not be seen as enough.
      
      Being phoned and asked if you support ardern the liar or Simon Bridges as leader is very different than getting your lazy arse out of bed and heading to the polls.
      
      I am confident that Simon Bridges will lead National to victory in 2020 and even if he is not the leader I am still 2 ticks blue as I love my country and do not want to see it become the basket case that adern the liar seeks. I find the pathetic non stop whining you seem to need to do is stupid and it reveals a side of your character that you should be ashamed of.
      
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      March 2, 2019 5:45pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        “it will not take long for the disappointment to grow.”
        
        All the polls say they are more popular than ever.
        
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        March 2, 2019 6:00pm
      - Tall Man
        
        “More popular”..
        
        So is P in certain areas. I think ardern the liar is probably less popular than P but hey, for the dim witted like yourself “approval rating” is more important than the quality of the individual.
        
        What a fucking sad side of society you represent. I pity you.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:42pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        No thicko I can’t stand Ardern and much prefer Simon. Though I don’t think much of either party.
        
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        March 3, 2019 6:50am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.
  Vladimir Lenin
  
  Just one of the very many things Lenin was wrong about.
  
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  March 2, 2019 2:43pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and JA want’s to turn us into the USSR.
    
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    March 2, 2019 2:48pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I guess we’ll never know will we as ardern the liar and the team of idiots won’t last 3 years let alone 8.
    
    Payback 2020.
    
    Sanity will resume shortly after.
    
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    March 2, 2019 5:36pm
    - Universal Smith
      
      National will do ok. But with no partner they will not govern.
      
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      March 2, 2019 6:05pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I would stick to buying lotto tickets if I was you, at least then your inability to predict accurately will be revealed quickly.
        
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        March 2, 2019 6:11pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I am very involved in analysing that proposal for education. It’s straight out of 1950s Moscow. And its very racist. Every parent who cares about education should be letting fuck face Hipkins know that a communist style Education policy is not what we want.
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:34pm
  - Viking2
    
    The Nats. need to get a decent education policy that returns the locals back in charge, remove the union influence. reinstate and increase the number of charter schools and give out Education vouchers to parents so they can exercise their rights to education money for their kids.
    
    There is no reason why the previous private schools run by many shouldn’t get the benefit of vouchers. It would remove the state control and leave them with just curriculum issues. Private enterprise can build schools where needed. all they need to respond to is bums on seats with appropriate curriculum settings.
    
    We did it before the communists in the unions and politics decided to control everyone.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:02pm
Yvette

The Herald has a lengthy item on “Miners ready to re-enter Pike River mine to try and recover 29 dead men”

An accompanying graphics shows –
4 Establish new seal and conduct forensic search of pit bottom.
While the text says –
Once they get to the rockfall area, which came down in the explosion, they will stop. That’s as far as the re-entry’s official and much-chewed-over mandate says they can go.

It would seem that the area circled in the graphic as Pit Bottom should be “Pit Bottom South” and is in fact inaccessible, on the workings side of the roof fall at the end of the drift. “Pit Bottom in Stone” is an area between the roof fall and entrance and should be accessible.

I apologise if I am wrong and would be pleased to be corrected.
Otherwise this article is Herald “Premium content” which means they deem it worthy of hanging around for days.
If so, and if inaccurate – indicating the re-entry will involve areas it won’t – it should be corrected.
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March 2, 2019 2:40pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  That’s so misleading it’s almost criminal. There is a huge fucking rockfall of undetermined length between the entrance and the ashes of the 29 men. Getting past that I would assume is going to be costly and dangerous.
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:31pm
All_on_Red

James Alan writing in the U.K. Spectator
Apologies for full post but I can’t link it for some reason
Enjoy
‘What ScoMo should have said to Jacinda

‘Thank you Prime Minister Ardern for those blunt comments just now in which you publicly indicated that deporting Kiwis from Australia is to your way of thinking ‘corrosive’ to the trans-Tasman relationship. I hadn’t realised this joint press conference was going to be used to make public criticisms of each country’s government’s policies. So let me reply in kind, bluntly and in public, and then perhaps I can air a few matters of New Zealand government policy that I think might also be ‘corrosive’ to our countries’ relationship.

‘On the deportation issue, people on visas who break any serious law will be deported, full stop. If they have under-age children then they will be sent back with their parents. That is our policy. We make no apology for it. Nor should we. You obviously disagree on that point, Ms Ardern, but my government thinks you are wrong. Who knows? If Mr Shorten wins our upcoming election you may get your wish granted.

‘And as you have thought it proper to indulge in the game of publicly denouncing the other country’s government policies, here are a few of New Zealand’s that I think are ‘corrosive’. You Kiwis are complete and total free-riders as far as defence is concerned. You take advantage of Australia and the US because you know that we will come to your aid even though you spend vanishingly little on defence. Worse, your country’s long-standing virtue-signalling on US naval ships – banning nuclear-armed US ships, which means all of them because it’s US military policy not to say whether they are nuclear or not – led to New Zealand being thrown out of the security obligations under the Anzus treaty. You first did this during the Cold War in the mid-1980s, undermining the Americans and with a seeming belief that unilateral disarmament is anything other than stupid. I disagree with that Kiwi move. In fact it was precisely that clear American intent to defend the democratic world, by spending heavily on defence, that led to the fall of the Soviet Union. In my government’s view that was a wholly good thing for the world. I realise that you, as a one-time socialist activist, might have a warmer view of Soviet communism. But you’re wrong. And when you first became Prime Minister back at the end of 2017 and called capitalism a ‘blatant failure’, let me just say that I think you were an idiot. Comments like that are very – how did you put it? – ah yes, they’re ‘corrosive’ to the relations between New Zealand and Australia because in Australia we recognise that capitalism has lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty in the last few decades alone. Just look at China and India. Socialism, by contrast, has taken the once-wealthy Venezuela and turned it into an impoverished basket case. Frankly, on matters economic you are clueless, Ms Ardern.

‘I might also take this opportunity, given that you have decided that these diplomatic meetings are in fact an opportunity for you to show off for your home audience back in New Zealand, to make it clear that your public intervention into how we police our borders – I refer to your government’s offer to take a few hundred of those claiming to be refugees from Australia’s offshore detention centres – is making it harder for us to keep our borders secure. If you want to bumper-sticker moralise, do it about something else. Incentives matter and you are weakening the ones that we have put in place to stop the boats. This has resulted in the boats stopping completely, along with the hundreds and hundreds who died coming on those boats.

‘Perhaps a blunter way to make this point is to say that you and your government across the Tasman are not morally superior to me and mine. Indeed, you are classic free-riders whose geography has allowed you to avoid hard decisions. Fine. Lucky you. But have the good graces to shut up about it, at least in public, because Australia is differently situated. If we want your advice we’ll ask for it.

‘Which brings me to how it is that you are even in the position of being New Zealand’s Prime Minister and hence able to stand up here today and sanctimoniously posture and virtue-signal. Of course normally I wouldn’t comment on another country’s domestic affairs, certainly not a democratic one with which we have shared a long and friendly history. But as you have changed the rules of the game, I will play by the new ones. Because let’s be honest: in any sane voting system you wouldn’t be prime minister would you? Your main opponents the National party at the last election in 2017 garnered 44.5 per cent of the vote and your Labour party won 37 per cent. Even with the Green party votes thrown in you did worse. You’re only PM because an embittered former National party politician who set up the New Zealand First party – my fellow Australians can think in terms of Clive Palmer at this point – well, he opted to put you and the Left in power despite it being clear most of his party’s voters were much more conservatively inclined. I suppose we’ll see how that pans out for New Zealand First, or whatever it’s called, at the next election. But basically it required one of the world’s most virulently proportional voting systems to make you PM, a voting system the Americans imposed on Germany after World War II and one in which about half of MPs get into the New Zealand parliament simply because their own party has put them high up on some list drawn up by party insiders. You can even lose at the constituency level and still get a seat because you are good buddies with the insider class of your own party. Frankly, I think that’s ‘corrosive’ of democracy. But of course that’s something for Kiwis to decide and not for me to raise – well, that was what I took the conventions to be before you opted to use this joint press conference to air your views on what you think is and isn’t ‘corrosive’. Now you’ve heard what I think, maybe we can turn to questions from the press?’

TLDR version
Ardern is a Virtue Signalling Moron
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March 2, 2019 3:25pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Would someone e mail this to the SLG?
  
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  March 2, 2019 3:39pm
  - starboard
    
    Give me her address..I will ( I cant be bothered looking it up)
    
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    March 2, 2019 4:45pm
    - starboard
      
      Found it..and forwarded.
      
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      March 2, 2019 4:50pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Thanks Mate, I couldn’t be bothered looking it up either…
        
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        March 2, 2019 5:28pm
- Universal Smith
  
  Outstanding 🙂
  
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  March 2, 2019 4:04pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Try this link:
  https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/kiwi-notes-6/
  
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  March 2, 2019 4:32pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And heres one of ScoMo sneaking up behind Jacinda
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzrIm7vU0AEnlwV.png
  
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  March 2, 2019 6:14pm
starboard

Viva Le France !!!!

https://www.theisraelwire.com/2017/02/25/french-now-preparing-for-civil-war-against-muslims-to-take-country-back.html?fbclid=IwAR33fifhQM5Rpy0mvLQawBA1B6uc2SozWDwt4iVVpYd43GmpURgpv8Fp72Q
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March 2, 2019 5:10pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  France never went to war ever – ever. US won’t help the lazy socialists, maybe UN?
  Maybe France needs to find some balls, and a Trump like leader?
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:22pm
- DigNap15
  
  I wish that were true.
  Not only do those muslim invaders want to bring in sharia law, they do not work and do not want to world.
  And who would want to employ them anyway.
  What is needed is 4 or 5 really big attacks killing thousands of innocent people, then the French people(and the rest of Europe may wake up and throw them out)
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:31pm
  - Swifty
    
    DigNap15, a small point if I may, sharia means ‘law’ – so if you say ‘sharia law’ you are saying ‘law law’.
    
    Better to say ‘the sharia’ or just ‘sharia’.
    
    If of interest….
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:25pm
    - DigNap15
      
      I bow to your expertise.
      But uptil now I have always seen it referred to as Sharia Law.
      But anyway Sharia is an evil system, and needs to be kept out of our beautiful western countries.
      
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      March 2, 2019 6:52pm
      - Swifty
        
        Totally agree.
        
        It has no place in Western societies.
        
        I argue it has no place anywhere else too – but that might take a little longer.
        
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        March 2, 2019 7:03pm
rightoverlabour

Ahh the Great Religion of Peace..

https://www.theisraelwire.com/2016/02/25/new-islamic-fatwa-a-fathers-lust-for-his-daughter-is-not-a-sin-if-the-daughter-is-over-9-years-old.html

What is it about “Men of religion” and fucking kids?
(And I am a practising Catholic…)
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March 2, 2019 5:27pm
- All_on_Red
  
  This one too
  https://worldindependant.com/lord-ahmed-charged-with-attempted-child-rape/
  
  Ex Labour and Rotherham again.
  ‘Lord Ahmed- lol
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:42pm
- nasska
  
  …..”What is it about “Men of religion” and fucking kids?”…..
  
  Consider who (on earth) prospers because of your beliefs. The system of rituals you follow, the worship of the invisible deity you dedicate your life to is run by a cabal of old men who have forgone normal earthly pleasure for the one thing that is important to them….power! They wave their hands & you sing, they raise their fingers & you kneel, they tithe you & you give…..they sodomise your children & you shrug your shoulders & pray.
  
  You concede them power over your thinking, your personal thoughts, even your sex life.
  
  Then you wonder why your kids are collateral damage to your delusions!
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:48pm
  - Swifty
    
    Power and control.
    
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    March 2, 2019 5:54pm
  - DigNap15
    
    This is how many religions work.
    Its all about the old tribal elders controlling everything.
    Eg Taliban.
    African tribes.
    The lot
    That is why western civilization has moved on in the last 500 years, thanks mainly to Henry VIII and the protestants!
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:51pm
  - lifesgood
    
    You talk rot and feel smug
    
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    March 2, 2019 7:01pm
- simpleton1
  
  Is this another imam from Egypt, supporting the religion of peace as wished by the previous government, to keep moderation in islam? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11616833
  
  Dr Abdelkafy has been touring Australia, as a guest of the Australian Egyptian Society, which organised for him to speak at the Wandana Mosque in Adelaide on Sunday.
  
  The hardline Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah Association, a fundamentalist Muslim Salafist group, has also been promoting his tour on its Facebook page, highlighing ‘free community’ events in Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, where he is speaking tonight in Granville and Lakemba. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6758155/Egyptian-Muslim-cleric-described-September-11-comedy-film-touring-Australian-mosques.html
  
  Is that one of those special moderate imams from Egypt?
  That advert says he is a delightful man.
  It would seem that in all his moderate ways, that is great to have a devout, pious, faithful, devoted, dedicated, dutiful Doctor of the faith to teach other followers of Mohammad.
  I wonder if he is coming to NZ to speak and who will make him most welcome. 🙂
  
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  March 2, 2019 5:52pm
  - ABS
    
    It’s amazing how Islam can have it so wrong on many fronts but have it essentially right about a lot of Jewish psychology and modus operandi.
    Just a personal reflection overall.
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:49pm
starboard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/110980698/operation-arks-lee-vincent-confirmed-dead-in-thailand

Hmmm…ringleader dies over here in Thailand..
Mr Sroubeks name pops up in the article..

“Police restrained about $14 million worth of property as part of the Operation Ark sting.

In 2011, embattled Czech drug smuggler Karel Sroubek was also arrested as part of the operation, less than a week after his trial for entering New Zealand on a false passport.

He later had a conviction for manufacturing Class-C drugs overturned.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108155476/jailed-drugdealer-escapes-deportation-as-govt-grants-him-nz-residency-behind-bars

Dear oh dear Mr Lees-Galloway.
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March 2, 2019 6:13pm
- Longknives
  
  Re-post in the morning mate!
  People need to realise how serious Operation Ark was…(And how fucking dodgy Ardern’s actions re this Sroubek character are)
  
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  March 2, 2019 6:34pm
  - starboard
    
    I dont get outa bed until 1pm nz time..if ya lucky. Feel free to re-post it.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:10pm
- Monique Watson
  
  This: “The ministry would not comment further due to privacy reasons.”
  
  I didn’t know privacy was a synonym for collusion.
  
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  March 2, 2019 6:49pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  His Conviction was overturned on a technicality..
  Antolik, as he was known back in 2011, was a New Zealand representative kickboxer and aspiring businessman.
  
  He was a minor player in Operation Ark; charged with manufacturing a few hundred pills and evidence he ordered 10,000 more.
  
  Antolik argued the pills were training supplements, but in 2014, he was convicted in a judge-alone trial of manufacturing a Class-C drug and sentenced to home detention.
  
  The conviction was seized on by Immigration New Zealand, as Antolik had been discharged without conviction on the passport and immigration fraud – despite the jury’s guilty verdicts.
  
  But the Operation Ark conviction was overturned on a technicality by the Court of Appeal.
  
  Instead, the Court of Appeal said the charge of manufacturing a Class-C drug should be replaced with possession of a Class-C drug for supply.
  
  A new trial was ordered but never went ahead, as he traded Ecstasy analogues for the real deal.
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/karel-sroubeks-criminal-connections-revealed/
  
  So he’s been a player in NZ’s drug scene for quite a while.
  
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  March 2, 2019 6:50pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Well that’s a surprise……Not.
    
    I wonder where in the chain adern the liar fits….
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:12pm
  - niggly
    
    So why has “anti-drugs campaigner” Ritchie Hardcore been backing him all this time?
    
    Something isn’t adding up!
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:51pm
Monique Watson

Little is getting the job done with Pike River. Good aye?
Yeah I’m know I won’t get too many upticks for that but if I changed my convictions to fall in, that would make me a L.I.A.R.
Like you know who. And all the rest of dem.
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March 2, 2019 6:17pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  How much do you think the government should spend to open up the Pike River mine, Monique?
  
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  March 2, 2019 6:29pm
  - Longknives
    
    Why don’t Labour spend millions and millions recovering my friend’s body who was lost at sea?
    Or do only West Coasters (Who vote Red) count???
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:36pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      The West Coast certainly has a hold on the national psyche, for some reason. Governments of all stripes are always allotting extra to Westland in respect of its allegedly unique properties and requirements.
      
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      March 2, 2019 6:55pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      BTW, don’t make up stories about a ‘friend’ lost at sea. It’s patently obvious you have no friends.
      
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      March 2, 2019 6:57pm
      - ABS
        
        >It’s patently obvious you have no friends
        /troll thread
        
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        March 2, 2019 7:01pm
      - Swifty
        
        What a dick.
        
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        March 2, 2019 7:14pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Whereas you have plenty eh mikey?
        
        They’re morons but you fit in really well with them.
        
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        March 2, 2019 9:36pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Nothing. But I’m not Monique.
    
    Decide if the mine will ever be reactivated as “opencast”..I doubt it, put a decent memorial in place, open up walking tracks in the area as the greens thought it was of “National Significance”, hence the bastard type of mine allowed.
    
    Build a couple of “accomodation huts”, named for the miners and remember them as “west coasters of significance.
    
    If not, then why don’t we scour the hillsides of Espiritu Santo looking for the bodies of our airman who died there?
    
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    March 2, 2019 7:02pm
- nasska
  
  There’s something about this re-entry that I can’t get my head around. From all accounts Little, Peters, a brass band & associated clowns want to walk into the mine to collect forensic evidence.
  
  We are told that there’s a rockfall on the entrance side of the ventilation shaft & before the main part of the mine where the bodies or remains are presumably located. Refer diagram: https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/244076/pike-river-rockfall-larger-than-thought
  
  So the wankers are preparing, at vast cost, to walk up to a pile of fallen rock & look at it
  
  What am I missing?
  
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  March 2, 2019 6:36pm
  - Longknives
    
    You are missing the most important point-
    Virtue Signalling and potential votes!!!
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:44pm
  - Tall Man
    
    You are missing the fact that ardern the liar assumes the bulk of her supporters are too thick to realise that. I mean, they don’t have “Herald columns” do they?
    
    You only have to glance at steffy, gump etc to see that she’s right.
    
    They are willfully ignorant which enables them to ignore that fact that ardern is a liar.
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:51pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    This is Labour and Winston doing the opposite of National, nothing more and nothing less.
    
    If National had gone into the mine they would be yelling from the rafters to let the miners Rest In Peace.
    
    Fuck the people involved, in fact play them like fools and truely fuck them but win the politics. They are a despicable bunch these wankers.
    
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    March 2, 2019 6:54pm
Monique Watson

Something about the way you used the word re-entry, Nasska gives me the chills. 🙂 Now let me go back and check the diagrams.
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March 2, 2019 6:52pm
waikatogirl

Cindy: “No national strikes under my watch.”
The teachers’ unions are planning a mass strike of secondary, primary and pre-school teachers on 3 April this year. The government have made several offers to settle but the teachers’ unions want more and have refused all offers.
What?? All that virtue signalling to the unions in the run up to the election by Cindy and Grant has come back to bite them.
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March 2, 2019 7:28pm
Lee C

I’d like to congratulate ‘The only Red for me’ for his stand earlier today.
More people should be assertive enough to state their mind like that. For what it is worth, I agree with you.

Except Liverpool is my ‘red’ of choice.

Monique, I’ll see your ‘re-entry’ and raise it with:

‘Double-entry’…

Accountancy can be sexy.
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March 2, 2019 7:50pm
Maggie Pie

if you overheard somebody use the term “feckless c–t”, what would that mean?

Asking for my partner.
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March 2, 2019 7:53pm
- secondcumming
  
  From my understanding, it’s when a man [or woman] revels in privilege while being associated directly with oppression of others who cannot revel in the same privilege.
  
  Hope that helps 😎
  
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  March 2, 2019 9:13pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Look thaks sooo much sc! Although just showed my partner what you put but now he tells me i must have misheard what he said – the word was actualy “reckless”
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:40pm
Jack5

British society is sick …

British Army veterans now in their 60s and 70s are about to be charged with murder over a shooting in Ireland 47 years ago.

This, while, ISIL murderers and their families return to Britain and blend into society.

Persecution of old soldiers will add to the horrific persecution by scum lawyers of British soldiers in Iraq, and presumably, soon, Afghanistan.

Are the British military strong enough to stage a coup? I doubt it, but …

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/01/army-veterans-facing-murder-charges-bloody-sunday-within-two/
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March 2, 2019 7:53pm
- Jack5
  
  This song pretty much sums up the position of the British soldiers in the Irish troubles:
  
  https://youtu.be/8NpaT5LDFgM
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:00pm
starboard

Lol..received this in my junk mail ppffft…

“Kia ora,

Thanks very much for taking the time to get in touch with Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.

We appreciate your email. Because of the large　number of emails we receive each day, you may not receive a response immediately.

While you are waiting for a reply, here’s a list of links that may help you find what you’re looking for:”
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March 2, 2019 7:53pm
- nasska
  
  You’d think you had emailed Spark by mistake.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:08pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Bet you he won’t tell us what those links are, nasska.
    
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    March 2, 2019 8:20pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  One can only speculate about what matter of important public business might have provided the impulse for a geriatric fantasist to email the prime minister.
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:18pm
  - starboard
    
    MM..the only person I know who can suck balls and speak clearly at the same time. No easy task, Id imagine.
    
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    March 2, 2019 9:28pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Makes no sense either, with or without his balls in his mouth.
      
      You could say he speaks nonsense….Probably supports ardern the liar..anyone ever asked him why?
      
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      March 2, 2019 9:35pm
nasska

Dear Aunt Maggy,

I am a teenage adolescent & whenever I see pictures of naked women I get an erection. Am I unusual?

Dear Christine,

Yes.
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March 2, 2019 8:20pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Dear Granpop nasska
  
  why are you reading Agony Aunt columns?
  Are you accessing your inner woman?
  https://innerself.com/content/personal/spirituality-mindfulness/meditation/8442-accessing-male-female-within.html
  
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  March 2, 2019 8:38pm
nasska

From Maggy’s link:

…..”Now ask for the images of both your male and female to come to you at the same time. See how they relate to each other. Are they in relationship to each other or are they separate? If they are in relationship to each other, how do they relate? Ask them if they have anything they would like to communicate to the other or to you. Stay open to what comes to you in words, images, or feelings. If you have anything you’d like to say to them or ask them, do that now.”……

Even after most of a life spent as a stocktruck driver then farmer I always suspected that I’d never seen a load of real, genuine, 100% certified shit……

……Now I can die a happy man! 🙂
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March 2, 2019 8:46pm
stigie

……”Now I can die a happy man!”

Not just yet Nasska, we have a job to do and that is getting rid of this dangerous parasitic leftie government..?
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March 2, 2019 9:09pm
Jack5

This isn’t good for little NZ…

America rejects World Trade Organisation’s “straitjacket”.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trade-china/u-s-says-rejects-wtos-straitjacket-of-trade-obligations-idUKKCN1QJ01L
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March 2, 2019 9:53pm
Jack5

Kids as young as 14 becoming addicted to e-cigarettes:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/01/children-young-14-becoming-addicted-e-cigarettes-head-britains/
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March 2, 2019 10:00pm
- Universal Smith
  
  Gosh. Maybe you could stop pearl clutching long enough to pop down and buy them some real ones.
  
  Ecigs are way safer, but the busy bodies are now campaigning to restrict them too. It was never about public health.
  
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