General Debate 15 March 2019

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Paulus Gnome

Which kindergarten in Taranaki is to be blessed with Her presence today?
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March 15, 2019 8:01am
- hullkiwi
  
  No, she’ll be on the steps of parliament today to welcome all those “young, enthusiastic & well informed (cough)” environmental protestors.
  
  God save us from the infinite stupidity of the uninformed and the ill informed.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:06am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Apparently She is going to Taranaki to explain the future is hydrogen and announce funding of $30m+ to rewrite history to show the Hindenburg was an unfortunate firework incident
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:13am
    - Tarquin North
      
      Classic Paulus!
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:28am
      - sooty
        
        She can go to Taranaki after recieving the kids, if they can get out of bed early enough!
        
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        March 15, 2019 8:33am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Here trip to Taranaki will take the oil industry to get her there, be it by limo or a quick helicopter ride. That’s ironic and is also highly hypocritical of you Cindy. ?
        
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        March 15, 2019 8:53am
    - WaveyDavey
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:56am
  - Doctor Who
    
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    Today children will take part in a worldwide “strike” to protest adults’ lack of pressure on governments to act responsibly on global warming.
    
    Business-as-usual burning of fossil fuels will see them face disruptive climate change. It is going to be far beyond anything civilisation can deal with.
    
    The retards defined in the online Oxford Dictionary as “climate deniers” will escape the worst of it by dying. As soon as possible please. That would help humanity.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12212794
    ‘Show us how it’s done’ – 21 leading NZ academics who back the School Strike 4 Climate
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12212643
    Editorial: Striking school students deserve to be heard
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:14am
    - kowtow
      
      I’m pissed off too . I like this planet too.
      
      I’m really annoyed with my great grand parents generation for allowing the last mini ice age to end back in the 1890’s , whatever were they thinking of , so selfish!
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:21am
    - Nukuleka
      
      I wonder why I turn off automatically when I read or hear the phrase ‘climate denier’. A puerile insult from anyone unprepared to debate the issues but wishing only to indulge in empty slogans.
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:23am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Oh look it’s Dr Who the Science Denier.
      Anyone who uses children for political propaganda is scum
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:24am
    - srylands
      
      Just for the record, I agree that climate change is a serous problem. I recognise that I am in a minority amongst regular commentators here. However I do not insult them. They hold a different view.
      
      What annoys me is that “action” to reduce greenhouse emissions is frequently ruinously expensive and misdirected. The recent decision to ban offshore oil and gas exploration being an excellent example. All that does is impoverish New Zealand and deprive us of about 30 billion dollars, much of which could be devoted to adaptation. Poor countries cannot adapt.
      
      And when the striking kids today pledge, seriously, to stop being driven to school in large petrol powered vehicles, well I will applaud and respect them. That is happening right?
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:37am
      - septic skeptic
        
        I’m with you up until the point where the AGW believers start advocating for global socialism as the answer to the potential problem. At that point I remember how it went for Cambodia under Pol Pot and I think at some point this turns from a debate to a fight to the death.
        
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        March 15, 2019 8:53am
      - tf78
        
        Srylands, what exactly do you mean by climate change, if it’s the weather, well this summer was the same as it was when I was a kid. We have weather patterns which are just that – repetitive patterns over the centuries. I’m sorry but I just don’t buy “Climate Change”. I get the pollution which has improved a lot in some areas, but not in others, but climate change a big NO from me.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:17am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        I’m also of the view that the climate is changing and that man has a part to play in it – how much is debatable of course. So you’re not alone.
        
        Buuuut… I don’t care and I’ll never care. We are a fantastic species and we will overcome any obstacles that come our way.
        
        For example the CC alarmists are quick enough to tell us how much land we’ll lose to rising sea-levels but very, very slow to tell us about the marginal land that will similarly become habitable as the same time.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:20am
      - srylands
        
        I am sure you can do your own research on the distinction between climate and weather.
        
        Btw the “recollections” of people about whether patterns when they are children are not reliable.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:00am
      - Bullion
        
        You need to stop GHG emissions at some point. You can’t adapt to a moving target.
        
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        March 15, 2019 2:01pm
    - tf78
      
      Dr Who – could you do us a favour and hop into your Tardis go forward 50 years and when you come back tell us who was right.
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:57am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        The Tardis is fucked, that’s why Dr Who is stuck here on KB, spouting bullshit
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:29am
      - SGA
        
        Does anyone else remember this UK song (#1 in NZ briefly) by the Timelords from 1988?
        The video must have been made for about $5 – 🙂
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adk1ujjmguo
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:37am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Aah the KLF
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual
        
        Did pretty well to be able to burn a million quid in a Scottish fireplace
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_Quid
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:58am
    - MT_Tinman
      
      Children are supposed to behave like this.
      
      They have been behaving like this for almost as long as people have been communicating. They don’t have the experience to know better.
      
      It’s the idiot adults supporting them that are supposed to have grown up and realised the folly of their youth.
      
      God save us from them!
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:01am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        I think I preferred it when children rebelling meant drink, drugs and exciting music. Not the current feckin’ navel-gazing, angst-ridden and whining-milksops that we have today.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:09am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        In fact I wonder if much of this is teens looking for a shag.
        
        Bear with me.
        
        All the enviro bleeding-heart stuff has until recently been very much targetted at young girls, like left politics in the 80s, and where young girls go young boys follow.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:16am
      - kowtow
        
        ‘where young girls go young boys follow’
        
        I can see the headline now…..
        
        Climate Change Leads to Spread of STI’s
        
        ( why not everything else is blamed on climate change)
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:39am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      *Yawn* Humans have adapted, humans are adapting, humans will continue to adapt.
      
      Opposable thumbs and big brains make for a pretty successful species.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:07am
      - SGA
        
        I’ve never found this a compelling argument. It’s rather like a young smoker dismissing its risk because we’ll have a cure for cancer by the time it is a problem for them (and forty years ago, I knew fellow smokers [at the time] who would say things like that).
        If significant climate change does occur, then humanity may well survive, but things would, I think, get very ugly.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:22am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        The history of humanity is mainly ugly with a very brief (current) relative period of niceness.
        
        As for the smoking. So what? That’s a personal (and informed) choice – does anyone now think it’s harmless? Of course they don’t, so if you really do want to use that as an analogy then those that are successful (eg the non-smokers in your argument) will adapt using their abilities and assets to overcome the challenges.
        
        Again, simply stated I don’t care. Mankind will survive, some people will die, but then they were going to die anyway (BTW, those smokers were also going to die and if you want to use statistics rather than emotive headlines, doing away with smoking won’t save a single life or reduce the annual number of deaths). I’ll choose my comfortable, modern, civilised and massively extended (by historic standards) life thanks.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:38am
      - SGA
        
        Sure, I understand you don’t care, and humanity may well weather it in some way or another if it eventuates. I can also understand that others are concerned for what it might mean for their children and grandchildren. People have different focuses.
        
        Smoking, informed choice – not sure that’s my point. I find the “she’ll be right”, “technology will protect us”, “we’ve got big brains” arguments a little facile. But that’s just me.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:46am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Well, millennia of human history tends to support my thesis.
        
        Ultimately, me and mine will be OK, and that’s really what matters to me. Sorry and all that but I really don’t give a flying fuck about some islanders who really should have moved on from their marginal subsistence-level way of life and not been subsidised to remain as some quaint cultural relic for the aesthetic benefit of do-gooding white people.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:59am
      - SGA
        
        True, a few millennia of civilisations rising and falling. Great if you are there for the rise 🙂
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:03am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Well currently we are riding the crest of the wave and we will be for a few more centuries yet (at least)
        
        As Douglas Murray said (I paraphrase) “We’ll be arguing about gender-neutral toilets when the middle-ages barbarians are knocking at the door, Kalashnikov in hand.”
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:06am
      - SGA
        
        Well currently we are riding the crest of the wave and we will be for a few more centuries yet (at least)
        
        That would be nice, and I hope you are right. But part of me wonders how many other earlier civilisations thought the same thing at similar times. 🙂
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:13am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Really?
        
        Part of me wonders if we have become too comfortable and decadent and we’re heading towards our version of the last days of the Roman Empire.
        
        Either way, it’s unlikely to be climate-change that does for us.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:18am
      - SGA
        
        Hard to say – if there are effects of climate change on our civilisation, then I would guess it’s the less direct ones that are likely to cause a quicker impact. For example, a lot of the world’s food is produced in a latitude band in the northern hemisphere. If that was seriously disrupted how would countries (e.g., China, USA, Europe) react? Would it be the sort of thing countries would go to war over?
        I’m just thinking out loud as much as anything. I’d like to think you were right about change being slow, but events easily cascade.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:36am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      “21 leading academics…”
      
      Shall we check their specialities?
      
      Associate Professor of Political Science
      Department of Physics
      head of Bioluminescent Superbugs
      physicist
      public health physician
      Faculty of Medical and Health Sciences
      senior lecturer, Te Kupenga Hauora Māori
      School of Psychology
      climate scientist – hoorah our first climatologist
      senior researcher, The Policy Observatory
      Lecturer, Department of Environmental Management
      geologist and programme manager
      Professor of Environmental Planning
      Department of Political Science and Public Policy
      ecologist and senior researcher, Institute for Governance and Policy
      lecturer in environmental studies
      School of Geography, Environment and Earth Sciences – maybe a second?
      head of physics
      senior research fellow, Climate Change Research Institute – another yes, but with a vested interest…
      physical oceanographer
      director, Centre for Sustainability
      Visiting Scholar
      
      Soooo many experts in the climate/weather field. Not.
      
      Oh and citing an NZ Herald editorial as evidence? Oh my aching sides.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:16am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Gold Star for homework well done WD.
        Thank you.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:55am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Tedious c&p’ing tbh but citing a superbug expert and a lecturer in Maori studies (mythology) doesn’t really lend a great deal of credibility
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:01am
    - Simon
      
      children will take part in a worldwide “strike” = the wanker Western left part of the world.
      
      There wont be any children protesting in China & India as the people of these countries strive to improve their lot by consuming cheap energy fuels.
      
      “Business-as-usual burning of fossil fuels will see them face disruptive climate change”
      
      When arsewipe? Big on science. When?
      
      U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
      
      June 30, 1989
      UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.
      
      https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0
      
      1989 before any of these children were born.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:18am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      I know. Lets put the Yoof in charge of everything and tell them to run it but God help them if they dont produce results.
      
      Like keeping the lights on.
      
      Like keeping fresh food on the table.
      
      Like keeping motorised transport functioning.
      
      You know. All the little inconsequential stuff that keeps a society functioning.
      
      Should be a doddle for these little know it alls.
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:16am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I hope they all go home after striking and make sure they turn lights off when they leave the room and not run the tap while they are cleaning their teeth.
        
        Are we going to see the shower head idea resurface?
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:14am
    - waikatosinger
      
      The use of children to score political points pisses me off. As a society we recognise that children are not equipped to make political decisions so we don’t let them vote. So why do these teachers think it is appropriate to take their kids on political protest marches.
      
      Are the kids given a chance to form their own opinions on the matter? Are the ones who decide they are skeptics allowed to sit the protest out? Of course not because the notion that a primary school child might consider the evidence and decide that they are a climate skeptic is absurd. They don’t know enough to evaluate the evidence and form their own opinions and at that age they’ll believe anything their teachers tell them. That is precisely why we don’t let the little buggers vote.
      
      This is political indoctrination and child abuse. Keep politics out of school, especially primary school and kindergarten.
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:19am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Plus peer pressure.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:17am
  - G152
    
    And spread the measles… well done those ‘enviro mental’ people
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:24am
- waikatogirl
  
  I heard Cindy is off to Taranaki. She left her visit long enough for the anger of those whose life has been turned upside down to cool down, after she cancelled the oil and gas industry. I hope Cindy has some real answers to their questions or is it just the airy fairy platitudes about green energy projects that are still to be thought of. Got her pockets stuffed with fairy dust to sprinkle to distract and obfuscate. Cindy, don’t forget your frowny face and head tilt to reassure the hard workers of Taranaki.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:13am
  - All_on_Red
    
    What’s the bet she patronises them by talking about how today our children are showing us the way to a fossil fuel free future blah blah blah
    There is hope etc etc
    We wouldn’t last three days with out the benefits petroleum brings us.
    Every tree would be burnt for cooking fires and heat within weeks and there would be massive starvation and food riots.
    These people are insane.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:42am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    No fairy dust, it’s Iron Pyrites – fool’s gold
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:33am
  - Ross12
    
    WG
    She has been up there, before, since effectively closing down O&G industry but it was a closely organised, closed door arrangement.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:38am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    So Taranaki will take the day off to go and listen, it is after all their ilks fault?
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:42am
- Shut the hell up you Fascist!
  
  Good morning, fellow serfs of Prinzess Jacinda of Aotearoa
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:14am
  - Viking2
    
    Down. Why because don’t put idea’s in her stupid silly little brain. She will become a despot like all communists do.
    
    Of to the gulags you capitalist shits.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:33am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    AAAHHH, that’s why they vote for her, spelling mistake.
    They thought she said
    fellow surfs of Prinzess Jacinda of Aotearoa
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:26am
- Scott
  
  As someone who comes from Taranaki I must protest! Our Prime Minister in a captain’s call decided to end future oil and gas exploration without consultation with anyone.
  The coalition partners the greens are hostile to dairy farming –
  “Greens sticking to plan to reduce dairy farming”
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/342135/greens-sticking-to-plan-to-reduce-dairy-farming
  
  Given that the backbone of the formerly prosperous Taranaki was built on two industries – energy in the form of oil and gas, and dairy farming, this government seems intent on driving the province of Taranaki into recession!
  
  I think it will take more than a few visits to the local kindergarten to regain the trust of the Taranaki voters.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:11am
  - calendar girl
    
    How can such a major financial and infrastructure decision – closure of Taranaki’s oil & gas exploration industry – be made by Executive decree (by the PM, in fact) without being debated beforehand, seriously, in our Parliament? How can this style of governance be tolerated in our form of ‘democracy’?
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:09am
  - Scott
    
    Calendar girl – those are excellent questions! One of the problems we have is that we have such a compliant left-wing media that basically upticks everything that the left-wing Labour Party and Greens party wants to do.
    
    Given such a major decision there should have been outrage in the media. But basically most of the left-wing types that are journalist nowadays believe in the same kind of things. So they see climate change as such an existential threat that closing down oil and gas exploration is a small price to pay. So they basically go along with it.
    
    Whereas when the National party dips their toe in the water and opens a few charter schools then there is outrage from the media. The charter schools are always labelled as “controversial” by the media. And when labour gets into power and immediately shuts down those very successful charter schools well no problem. Because the media mainly agrees with this.
    
    We need a disruptor who will come in and pursue sensible centre-right policies and hit back at the media as hard as they hit him or her. I believe it is working in another country that is well known to us? 🙂
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:50am
Longknives

Will all the little Comrades who have the day off School actually turn up to their ‘End Capitalism’ protest if it is raining??
I suspect most will stay at home on their Playstations…
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March 15, 2019 8:03am
- Jules99
  
  We need someone to take one for the team and get some real photos. The media ones will be cropped to show thousands, but I suspect a few hundred will turn up.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:25am
- Komata
  
  LK
  
  Casual observation from behind the wheel of a petrol-driven motor vehicle in the central Waikato, indicates that while there are quite a few non-uniform wearing ‘teenage’ females roaming the streets, there are very, very few males of that age bracket doing the same.
  
  Perhaps that says something…
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:37am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    perhaps they should have had to be in uniform.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:26am
peterwn

See the Simon Bridges clobbering machine is out again – on Whaleoil and with one or two journos. Seems the ‘donations’ business is the trigger.
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March 15, 2019 8:03am
- harvey wilson
  
  What’s a whale oil?
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:24am
  - peterwn
    
    See:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Slater
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:32am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘What’s a whale oil?’
    
    A busted flush.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:33am
  - Harkman
    
    A moron that nearly cost sanity the 2014 election and followed it up by voting for Winston in 2017, just “to keep National honest.”
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:15am
    - 453mm
      
      There was a time when whaleoil was the bright new thing with convincing arguments.
      Sorta like Jacinda.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:35am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        “Convincing arguments” Jacinda? Really?
        
        Fresh-faced and emoting to appeal to the “I wanna feel good” brigade
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:12am
- G152
  
  He (and they) should be concentrating on their health.
  All that vitriol in a workplace cant be good for any-one
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:26am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I hadn’t noticed that Peter, although I am an infrequent visitor these days. There is however a video from “Rahera” which was published on social media earlier in the week, and is designed to show Tova O’Brien’s complete lack of objectivity when reporting on Simon Bridges.
  
  I wonder what Newshub’s senior executives make of this behaviour from their political editor:
  
  https://youtu.be/VQIt_Xv8rIQ
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:42am
  - peterwn
    
    Whaleoil is at it again this morning – “Is Simon facing a ‘Come to Jusus’ moment” – by some writer called Suze – probably using a feed from Simon Lusk.
    The line being taken is Simon is facing a SFO investigation despite by all accounts that Simon has no involvement with the donations business. It would be too inconvenient if writers admitted that the buck stops at the Party’s General Manager’s desk, not the leaders desk. Anyway the sole source of what is happening seems to be from Jami’s mouth so the impression of what is going on may be different from the hard facts.
    I doubt that Simon could be rolled over this – he is the one who could be calling for other heads to roll.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:46am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Is Whale asking for donations again?
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:09am
  - peterwn
    
    Yes, basically. Still selling memberships and non-Halal meat.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:22am
- peterwn
  
  And they are at it again – “Can Bridges Really Come Back?”
  They picked up on Kiwiblog’s yesterday’s ‘thuggish behaviour’ article. I wonder if Whaleoil site’s behaviour is a bit thuggish.
  
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  March 15, 2019 12:44pm
  - KevOB
    
    Distinctly of that flavour. I recall a retired judge being rung up at home in his off hours after WO crowing about he disputed the Judges credentials–just checking up on his home life.
    A senior Judiciary Officer was most interested in this private war.
    
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    March 15, 2019 1:32pm
srylands

A spokes-child for the students striking today for climate change action has pledged that all striking students will agree to bike and walk to school for the remainder of their school days. She said “the days of being driven to school in giant SUVs, well they end right now”

I think this is heartening. Walk the talk. You go girl.
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March 15, 2019 8:04am
- kowtow
  
  Bwa hahahahaa.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:12am
- hullkiwi
  
  Geez, I’ve just seen a pink farm animal sprout wings and take to the sky.
  
  Just like all our Green politicians, giving up their seats on planes to avoid endangering the environment by travelling to international conferences and suffering all that largess while they are saving the plant!
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:13am
  - srylands
    
    Seriously, I happened to be driving past Queen Margaret College at 0830 one day this week. It was a chaotic scene of dozens of high end SUVs disgorging children. I know parents who take turns leaving work at 3pm to pick up the kids, take them home, and then come back to work. No wonder we have traffic issues.
    
    That’s why I am contemptuous of efforts to fix transport problems by encouraging cycling and walking. These parents are addicted to large petrol powered vehicles. And so are their kids. These very same kids who will today “strike” for action on climate change, fauned over by the media.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:28am
- All_on_Red
  
  Great
  Let’s see what they are doing come July.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:13am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Yay, more room on the roads for rational car driving types.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:13am
- Universal Smith
  
  A huge percentage of traffic at peak times is taking these over privileged brats to school.
  
  The single worse thing you can do to the environment is have a kid. No amount of electric car driving etc will ever make up for the harm. Those kids are the problem, not the solution.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:16am
  - Swifty
    
    30% of Auckland peak hour trips, am and pm, are education related – students, teachers, administrators etc etc
    
    During the school hols my experience is that Auckland congestion largely disappears.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:30am
    - Viking2
      
      Build schools on better places and close the ones in the middle of the transport chaos.
      We could if someone else owned the buildings. End of lease don’t need it here anymore.
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:36am
      - tf78
        
        How about bringing back the good old school buses.
        
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        March 15, 2019 9:20am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Other people’s kids are always the problem.
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:00am
- alex Masterley
  
  Colour me sceptical but I can’t see that happening.
  The private school darlings who get driven to the schools close by my office by their parents will continue to be driven.
  And likewise the streets around the local primaries will continue to be clogged.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:31am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Did the young Masterleys seek parental consent to march today Alex?
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:43am
    - alex Masterley
      
      KS.
      The younger one – no – absolutely no interest.
      The older one – “Dad I am not going to the strike. It is a waste of time! I would rather study.”
      Proud father!
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:53am
- Rich Prick
  
  Let’s ask them at the end of today whether they have stopped climate change. There’s a detention in the offing if they haven’t.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:32am
- hullkiwi
  
  Will the stupid little girl be giving up all her electronic devices, her synthetic clothing and bling?
  
  Thought not!
  
  It is good to be a modern day virtue signalled and tell others how to live their lives!
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:33am
  - Viking2
    
    She wears bling. fuck off she wears what look like third hand designer Otara rags.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:37am
    - freethinker
      
      A full Burka would improve her looks.
      
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      March 15, 2019 11:56am
  - Universal Smith
    
    She avoids traffic by traveling in a jet. Though she does use an entire fleet of cars to move from the airport. Though to be fair, not as much as the climate change minister.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:38am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Synthetic clothing is not as bad for the environment as cotton.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:41am
  - alex Masterley
    
    She probably wont understand the irony.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:42am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Well, that will make my commute home so much easier if all the school traffic is off the road, yes please!
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:43am
- Richard
  
  First rainy day will end that. Mark my words.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:55am
- tedbear
  
  Sorry, bikes are a no no. You require a fair amount of fossil fuels for their manufacture alone.
  So the only choice is walking but as footwear is fossil fueled shipped to stores, the spokes-child will inform all her followers they must go barefoot.
  Walk the talk barefoot.
  You go girl.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:24am
- RW Capitalist
  
  expiry date on this promise in:
  3-2-1…..
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:30am
- Ross12
  
  It would be interesting ask the girl if she knew that when her grandparents (and in some cases her parents generation) went to school most schools had huge bike sheds and each kid had their designated bike rack. Almost all kids biked or walked to school –the rest came on the few school buses that operated.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:46am
- Komata
  
  srylands@0804
  
  Ok, BUT as she has conveniently ‘forgotten’, pushbikes use steel in their construction, steel uses mined material and also heat / flames / smoke in its production; things which ‘pollute’ the atmosphere and contribute to ‘Climate change’. And as for rubber (both ‘synthetic and natural), to say nothing about her laptop and cellphone and… Likewise the processes used to make most of what she wears and what she eats.
  
  And come the first really, heavily-wet day of winter, odds on that all her virtue signalling and passionate rhetoric will suddenly evaporate as she finds mummy’s SUV is a very desirable method of getting to school (although the bicycle might be taken along as a passenger.
  
  I’m sure she’s passionate about the her current ‘enthusiasm’, but eventually ‘reality’ will dawn and that will change (especially as ‘Boys’ appear on the scene; odd that)
  
  Roll on winter…
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:45am
  - srylands
    
    Just to clarify my comment was a parody. There is no kid who actually said the days of driving to school end today.
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:49am
- PhilP
  
  That won’t fucking last long, mark my words!
  
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  March 15, 2019 5:58pm
Ultima

Looking forward to less traffic, and burning less fuel, to work today. Thank you kids!
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March 15, 2019 8:04am
- Universal Smith
  
  They should declare a Climate Emergency and ban people from having kids.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:18am
  - kowtow
    
    The real problem for the west is our politicians are importing other people’s kids , to keep the ponzi scheme going.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:25am
    - Universal Smith
      
      Yes it appears so and it will end badly for everyone if it is not moderated.
      
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      March 15, 2019 8:29am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    From having sex?
    
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    March 15, 2019 2:36pm
niggly

Has anyone asked this before … what has happened to Oldpark?

I used to look forward to his morning addresses on the state of the nation on KB general debate!

Hopefully our man for all reasons and seasons is ok!
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March 15, 2019 8:05am
Poppa

Warning!!!!

If you want your TV set to survive another day do not watch the news on TV tonight. I predict the princess will be marching along side students during their day off all in the name of so called climate change

I am safe, I haven’t watched the news for years & my TV has survived quite happily

You have been warned
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March 15, 2019 8:08am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Thank goodness the V8 Supercars will be on at around the same time, and I won’t have to face the dreaded scenario you describe Poppa.
  
  PS – I downloaded the Spark Sport app yesterday, and with SWMBO away for the weekend, will watch the F1 from Melbourne courtesy of a 30-day free trial. You better get this right Spark, because there will be hell to pay if you screw up Rugby World Cup coverage.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:17am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Thanks KS, I must download it also.
    
    Mrs KH was very generous at Christmas buying a new OLED TV & sound sytem all to watch RWC. Only for me to point out after I had set it all up, that we’ll be in the UK/Europe for the first month (all the pool play) & we’ll get home for the quarter finals. All she could say was “ohhhh!”
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:25am
    - Overworked
      
      Nicely played Mrs KH, you are an inspiration to wives everywhere.
      
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      March 15, 2019 11:55am
  - alex Masterley
    
    And thanks from me.
    My lads will be upset when I take over the controls of our smart TV and down load the sports ap thingee.
    The other good thing is it is very close to the downstairs beer fridge (and the wine cellar).
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:44am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      The app runs on all devices plus on the laptop, so even if I cannot get it to connect to our Smart TV, I have three viewing options.
      
      It’s going to be a pain in the butt switching from the V8’s on Sky to the F1’s on Spark, but I guess that’s what they call a #firstworldproblem
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:11am
- alex Masterley
  
  No she will be in Taranaki, she is flying there, opening Womad.
  She will look good for the hippie types that attend the opening day.
  Most people with jobs wont be there as they will all be working.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:38am
  - stigie
    
    I can now see you guys are in need of some old fashion Green indoctrination..? /sarc
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:57am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Does one take it orally or….anally? Rhetorical.
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:13am
      - secondcumming
        
        Both are fine…..just make sure it’s in the right order 😎
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:28am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Indoctrination that is lol. Just in case of doubt.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:36am
- RF
  
  Poppa
  
  If you do happen to watch suggest you remove all throwable objects in the vicinity of the TV.
  
  I caught the tail end of a comment from Mike Hosking this morning. Did Cindy have a Media sleep over ?
  
  I heard him grumbling about this.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:48am
- Tall Man
  
  Looks like rain in the Capital….ardern the liar doesn’t like rain, it makes her wet and her hair look like shit…..
  
  You know,, she must spend a lot of time in the rain….
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:33am
  - srylands
    
    It is not going to rain. Barring some very light occasional drizzle.
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:51am
Keeping Stock

So Jacinda Ardern is off to Taranaki today, where among other things she will open the 2019 WOMAD Festival.

I took a quick look at WOMAD’s website, and couldn’t help but notice this on the sponsors page:

Todd Energy has made a long term commitment to WOMAD, an event which over the years has become a part of the social fabric of Taranaki and a national icon. WOMAD 2019 will be our 15th year involved and it’s great to work together with all festival partners bringing this opportunity to the local community and benefit to the wider region.

We have an exciting few months ahead of us in the build up to the event and we will be reaching out locally more than ever, taking the magic of WOMAD to the people and communities Todd Energy operates in every day. It is the exploration and discovery of new artists and music, that makes one’s experience at WOMAD so memorable and Todd Energy is thrilled to be able to help ensure this experience and culture comes to town for all to enjoy

https://www.womad.co.nz/info/sponsors/

Todd Energy’s own website proclaims this (emphasis mine):

100% New Zealand owned and operated, Todd Energy is a leading natural gas provider focused on meeting New Zealand’s needs well into the future

Anyone for popcorn?
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March 15, 2019 8:09am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Okay we get it. Prime Minister is corrupt.
  Lots of lawnmowers, reading between the lines and obvious conflicts of interest.
  Question is. When will somebody do something about it.
  I’m just a simple camel header, what about all the Wellington political boffins?
  When will one of you crack this thing wide open? For the good of the country.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:28am
  - kowtow
    
    Camel header ?
    
    haram !
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:33am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Ummmm… No no… I simply head camels in the right direction. Not Haram at all.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:14am
  - RF
    
    Agree…. the corrupt brat has to go.
    
    This Govt must have friends in very high places and a bloody big broom for sweeping the numerous scandals under the carpet.
    
    It will eventually blow out one day and the castle of cards will come crashing down.
    
    I look forward to seeing the scrawny face crumble.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:55am
- Komata
  
  KS
  
  Her majesty won’t even notice the contradiction…
  
  (Too many photographers in attendance).
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:50am
secondcumming

*LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH & FAMOUS* (cont)

Honestly, you couldn’t make this shit up…..and the worrying thing is, it could even be your next door neighbor! 😎

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/111202765/complainant-fiercely-throwing-up-before-alleged-indecent-assault-by-businessman
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March 15, 2019 8:11am
- septic skeptic
  
  The standard appeal manoeuvre when name suppression is denied or lifted has broken the system. Maybe there needs to be an automatic fine or addition to sentencing time in the event that the defence subsequently fails to appeal or that appeal is found to be frivolous.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:42am
holysheet

Bought my first R Kelly album today.
Impressive stuff. In fact, I’d go so far as to say he could be the new Michael Jackson.
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March 15, 2019 8:13am
- Tall Man
  
  Singer or kiddy fiddler?
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:26am
Maggy Wassilieff

It’s not easy manufacturing Green cars
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/03/tesla-factory-store-uses-diesel-generators-to-recharge-slow-moving-model-3-inventory/
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March 15, 2019 8:14am
- Universal Smith
  
  The entire company is a scam to suck billions from the tax payer, via corporate welfare, and stupid low information investors. The cars are low quality junk and a recent UK consumer survey rated them dead last for reliability.
  
  Musk is a fraud and his supporters are morons pretending to be into some high tech future.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:22am
  - dubya
    
    My mother has had no end of trouble with hers. Been in the shop all week, third time since they got it.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:05am
    - Universal Smith
      
      She should sell it while the company is still in business. There are a lot predictions it is going under.
      
      Musk is not a far sighted visionary leading us to bright new future of innovative technology. He is a con artist selling dreams and hype.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:28am
      - dubya
        
        Probably will, has her eyes on the new Honda EV that’s being released next year (so do I, actually). As per usual the Japanese are likely to refine the concept and make it much more reliable.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:25am
      - Universal Smith
        
        Yep or just get plain ole Toyota.
        
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        March 15, 2019 12:43pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I’m keeping my C63s, fuck the emissions
        
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        March 15, 2019 2:19pm
  - tf78
    
    US, I heard that Musk’s only real interest was in the battery side of it. Production of the cars almost stopped when the government subsidies were removed and there were all sorts of dealership scams going on with paybacks given after orders were made, then the cars were returned to the manufacturer all to grossly overstate the sales.
    (I think I’ve got that right)
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:37am
    - Universal Smith
      
      Yes the battery scam is his latest thing. It is following the same pattern of incredible exciting claims and no results.
      
      He is a snake oil salesman distracting from real progress.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:41am
- howitis
  
  Better watch those electric bikes too.
  
  Big Explosion a few hours back of ALL the electric race bikes preparing for a race event in Spain.
  https://www.gpone.com/en/2019/03/14/motoe/fire-at-jerez-the-garage-housing-the-bikes-is-destroyed.html
  …A major fire has destroyed the entire roster of electric bikes ahead of the MotoE World Cup — the electric spin off of MotoGP.
  The blaze ripped through the newly-built paddock after the first day of preseason testing in Jerez, Spain, with all the 18 bikes caught up in the damage.
  A statement from the organizers confirmed that the fire “destroyed the majority of material” and that an investigation was underway to determine the cause of the inferno….
  
  That was the replacement for those evil ‘fossil fuel burning’ bikes.
  Now, the whole bike burns. External combustion!
  Bugger!
  
  Even the e-bikes of Crazy Californian Genter notoriety have problems:-
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/01/14/electric-road-bike-explodes-on-adelaide-hill-climb-causing-bushfire/#5ca2a643d91f
  14 Jan 2019
  …A 79-year-old Australian man had a lucky escape earlier today when the high-end road bike he was riding burst into flames on a famous ascent near Adelaide. The rear wheel of Gary Ryan’s Pinarello Dogma F8 had been retrofitted with an electric hub motor, but the bicycle’s carbon fiber frame is now a “melted mess,” said a TV report on Adelaide’s 9News….
  
  Consequences of this :
  It caused a bush fire. Greens huh! In South Australia in January.
  In addition:
  …Soon after the battery on Ryan’s bike caught fire some CO2 canisters in his saddlebag exploded. These canisters are used by cyclists for emergency tire inflation….
  
  So e-bike catches fire; Results:-
  -The rider gets burnt and goes to hospital. Lycra is not that fire retardant- not retarded at all, unlike a greenie!
  -Bike fire causes a bushfire in South Australia in January
  -Co2 canisters start exploding so people can’t get near to put fire out.
  
  The article goes on to say:
  …In July last year a Dutch factory assembling e-bikes caught fire leading to 300 nearby residents being evacuated from their homes overnight. The mayor of Nunspeet told the De Stentor newspaper that the fire at the Stella e-bikes warehouse was a “wake-up call.” …
  
  Yep, electric vehicles based on fragile technology should come with a Surgeon General Warning on every item.
  They are inside out ‘logic’ kind of like a bunch of rabid red commies calling themselves ‘an environ mental Gween pardy.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:56am
  - Universal Smith
    
    Our activist media don’t like to report on this. Those dangerous toxic fires are common.
    
    Eventually there will be a car load of kids, or some media darling, burned alive. Only then will the truth come out. People should be made aware of the risks of this developing technology.
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:04am
JIV

You would think this government would encourage investment in gas powered electricity generation.

From the Energy News
“The unplanned outage at the Pohokura gas field last spring saw coal-fired generation rise to its highest December quarter level in 10 years, new government figures show.

Genesis’ coal-fired Rankine units filled the breach, with generation of 656 GWh up 84 per cent on the previous year. It was the highest December-quarter figure since 2008, and saw the generator-retailer’s quarterly coal burn reach a five-year high.”
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March 15, 2019 8:27am
- sooty
  
  While laughing all the way to the bank!
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:39am
- stigie
  
  They must be about due to order another 120 thousand tons of coal from Indonesia then..?
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:28am
Maggie Pie

Had to laugh this morning. My paartner and me have just got back from our walk around the waterfront. Theres a sign on the Ice Cream shop in Mission Bay that sez, ‘Dozens of Delicious Flavors’. Some smart -arse has written below it, “and 3 real shitty ones”

Lol !!!
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March 15, 2019 8:27am
- secondcumming
  
  Did you call in somewhere for a Crepe?
  
  😎
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:08am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Had one before we left home.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:24am
KiWombat

Are you out there Shame? – wakey wakey, hands off snakey – 146 million trees to go now Shame – that’s 146 followed by a bucketful of zero’s !

This is a very large number. To put it into context, if 146,000,000 x 5mtr high trees were laid end to end then they would reach the moon, and back again.

Summer’s over now, winter is approaching, so it’s the right time to start planting – better go wake up your cuzzies and give them a shovel some time soon !
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March 15, 2019 8:35am
- Yvette
  
  KiwiGrow has given up on the cuzzies, but have discovered a new hiccup – trying to convince some Pacific Island workers to come to New Zealand for the winter.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:53am
- Tall Man
  
  “God you’re an annoying bugger, you better watch out of I’ll bring up your sexual deviancies in parliament next week….”
  
  “Anyway, I’ve planted the fucking trees. Any half wit knows a zero is nothing you know zero…so I put the zeros at the front cos it makes no difference where they are and that left me with the 146 and we planted those yesterday so fuck off I’m busy…..Faarck, who put the Vicks in the vaseleine jar?”
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:22am
  - KiWombat
    
    146 in a day TM?
    
    Must have worked up quite a sweat tugging that one off !
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:14am
kowtow

The bro’ification of Aotearoa , formerly NZ continues apace.

As a matter of interest , for how long have the gowns of the justices of the supreme court had that maori stuff on them?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111269747/new-chief-justice-dame-helen-winkelmann-is-sworn-in
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March 15, 2019 8:37am
- Universal Smith
  
  As opposed to English stuff? (England is another country). I do agree it is all a bit fake and contrived though.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:03am
  - kowtow
    
    English stuff ? You mean stupid stuff like like courts , due process , law and order , a constitution , habeas corpus ……….
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:12am
    - Universal Smith
      
      Yes, but there is no problem with us modifying things to reflect our circumstances. There is a lot of English stuff we should leave behind. Like their stuck up class structure.
      
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      March 15, 2019 9:18am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        I’d be more worried about the “class structure” of socialism.
        
        Hint: the nomenklatura is the new bourgeoisie.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:41am
      - Universal Smith
        
        Odakyu-sen, I am even more worried about that.
        
        Just because one choice is terrible does not make the other choice a good one. Which pretty much describes the current political scene in NZ.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:44am
      - Komata
        
        US
        
        Re: ‘…Like their stuck up class structure’.
        
        Yep, all we’ve got now is MAORI stuck-up class structure, where no-one within the tribe dares move without chiefly approval and self-improvement is actively discouraged.
        
        Oh, and the money circulates at the top; always at the top…
        
        (Thought you should know; same result, different islands)
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:57am
      - Universal Smith
        
        Komata, I agree entirely regarding Maori. They are not served well by their leaders, with a few exceptions like Ngāi Tahu.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:38am
Yvette

I had not followed that closely what is happening, but is it today that school children are to get out and protest climate change, encouraged by those very people who would presumably be the target of the kids’ protest?

A little like that ancient saying “Coals to Newcastle” which if you utter it now may get you ~~coaled~~ stoned to death.

At the same time, Ardern goes to Taranaki to suggest new industries for them, like hydrogen production – placing further demands on the national grid, so using electricity, rather than what the rest of the world does: uses the natural gas that lies beneath their feet?

The sooner the Government turns their attention to mental health, the better.
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March 15, 2019 8:38am
- holysheet
  
  Did you miss the memo from Cindy?
  All mental health problems have been fixed. It’s been a year now and she said it would be her prioridy to fix it after 9 long years of neglect.
  
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  March 15, 2019 8:54am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yeah, she got the first report, and it was all too complicated. So, they set up another Working Group to produce a plan to implement the recommendations of the Enquiry into Mental Health.
    
    I kid you not!
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:26am
    - Yvette
      
      Did they in fact not set up NINE new committees to further examination the Report?
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:05am
      - Tall Man
        
        Each tasked to produce a one page report because this government can’t deal with 2 pages.
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:17am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Yvette, how do we get on this gravey train we are paying for through our taxes?
        
        I could quite happily take $1,000 per day as a Chairman of one of these working groups and produce a report that an idiot with a Comms degree can’t read.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:52am
- rangitoto
  
  Most hydogren production is via steam reforming of natural gas. What an own goal from Cindy.
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:20am
- Inandout
  
  Won’t most farmers be at the Central Districts Field Days?
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:38am
  - GJM
    
    That decision is deliberate to stop pissed off farmers looking at having their life work banned and then 1/3 stolen in CGT fro feeding her to the pigs…
    
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    March 15, 2019 2:45pm
Shaun the Sheep

Question:
I have tiger slugs in my garden.
Do I just keep feeding them crushed snails?
Or should I despatch the slugs too?
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March 15, 2019 9:01am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Depends what you value in the garden.
  
  I’d keep the tiger slugs if you have lots of smaller grey and brown garden slugs (Derocerus), as the tiger slugs will chomp on these.
  
  However if you’ve got lots of seedlings, leafy greens in your garden, then it might pay to clean out the Tiger slugs along with the smaller ones.
  
  (I don’t think I’d enjoy encountering an 8 inch/ 20cm- long Tiger slug)
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:27am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Thanks Maggie
    
    “I don’t think I’d enjoy encountering an 8 inch/ 20cm- long Tiger slug”
    
    Then I won’t send you any of mine!
    
    I can deal to the snails by torchlight, but the normal slugs are a problem. Maybe I’ll just let the big boys/girls do that job for me.
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:11am
- Tall Man
  
  “Did you know: By eating dead and rotting plants, as well as fungi, Leopard Slugs recycle nutrients and fertilise the soil. opalexplorenature.org”
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:13am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yeah… but they are omnivores..
    so not only do they eat decomposing muck (yay!), they eat other slugs (yay!) as well as little plants (booh!).
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:22am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I am wondering if they are responsible for silencing the crickets that have been keeping me awake for the last couple of weeks. All of a sudden – silence. Yay!
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:31am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        They don’t like it wet and they don’t like it cold…
        Anyway, the louder and the longer Male crickets call/sing, the shorter their lifespan.
        You might only have the females left… busy laying their eggs.
        
        Crickets still noisy in Gizzy… but its still warm at night here.
        
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        March 15, 2019 12:20pm
Harlequin

Looking forward to all the earnest ‘change the world now or else screamers’ out there today:
“What do we want?”
“Climate Change”
“When do we want it?”
‘Now”
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March 15, 2019 9:03am
dime

If Dime were 16 again.. we would probably pile into a car. check out the protest. get stoned. see if we could pick up. end up getting smashed somewhere laughing our asses off.

We would be reported as “enthusiastic attendees” but the reality is – we would just want the day off and a chance to be social.
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March 15, 2019 9:05am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Which is exactly what we did when the girls (of both genders) were waving Mao’s Little Red Book and protesting about the Vietnam war and I’m sure most boys will do today.
  
  Very little changes, even the side of the political fence of the children remains the same, egged on, of course by life’s losers.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:41am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Mr Tinman must be very old if he can remember The Little Red School Book.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:16am
Universal Smith

Are there any peer reviewed published studies showing kids being used to promote a political agenda actually reduces CO2?
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March 15, 2019 9:09am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  No, but if you send $$$$$, I’m willing to write one.
  I imagine you’d be available to peer review it ?
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:30am
  - Universal Smith
    
    Yes but we need to agree on the findings first and only allow review by those who already agree with the findings. Otherwise how will we get a consensus?
    
    Climate science is very structured. You first determine what the finding is, then build a hypothesis to support it. Except its called a fact and not an hypothesis, in this arena of science. Debate is limited to screaming DENIER!!! in peoples faces.
    
    It’s really pretty simple once you get the hang of it and the money is outstanding. No scratching around begging for grants and a place to work.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:54am
    - Komata
      
      US
      
      Re: ‘You first determine what the finding is…’
      
      Shouldn’t it be ‘You first determine what the FUNDING is’?
      
      The more you ‘fund’, the better I’ll write (in your favour that is)…
      
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      March 15, 2019 11:01am
      - Universal Smith
        
        Komata, yes my bad.
        
        I should have explained that cause of the finding is the funding. It is accepted science that the more funding there is the more findings there are. We are at a tipping point of run-away funding causing even more dire findings.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:44am
    - KevOB
      
      If you want input data for a climate model you get that from a computer simulation run.
      
      P.S. The UNIPCC models are mathematical garbage.
      Where’s the science when most of the data is non-existent and seriously large inconvenient drivers are ignored.
      
      What’s become of the sunspots?
      
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      March 15, 2019 1:44pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Available but able?
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:10am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m as capable as any journalist to operate the copy/paste function.
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:24am
      - Tall Man
        
        I meant the “peer” review 🙂
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:40am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Unless I am mistaken…
        Universal Smith has a Ph.D in theoretical physics…
        
        she could homogenise/recalibrate/check the hard sums stuff.
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:32am
      - Jack5
        
        She’s addicted to Kiwiblog.
        
        And to string theory. The blog is a distraction, and the more times she’s banned the more the blog fascinates her. A sort of chess with DPF, and to a lesser extent, the rest of us.
        
        One trait: staunch support of Palestinians. Strength: at times, seriously witty.
        
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        March 15, 2019 1:22pm
MCos

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I notice a lot of people on this forum are never happy.
They whine about kids taking the day off to demonstrate for more action to be taken on climate change, which is perfectly understandable if you’re a denier of climate change, but don’t mind the extra space on the road.
They whine about the education system and whine about people who drive their kids across town to a school they where feel they will get a better education.
They, and thousands of other people, whine that the roads are congested when they are driving on them.
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March 15, 2019 9:15am
- Universal Smith
  
  We are not deniers of climate change, we are just waiting for it to happen. We can see the sea level has not risen, it still snows, and the poles are covered in ice. All these things were predicted to be dire problems in 2019.
  
  Catastrophists remind me of that other cult waiting for Jesus to turn up.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:21am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Who the fuck are you calling “we”?
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:43am
- Universal Smith
  
  Btw, are you one of the cynical people selfishly using their kids to push their political agenda?
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:29am
  - MCos
    
    My kids left school a long time ago.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:52am
    - Tall Man
      
      That’s irrelevant isn’t it?
      
      Or do you not give a stuff about those around you?
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:07am
- Inandout
  
  I suppose your Lada diff whines too.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:46am
  - Tall Man
    
    Wind powered blocart only for the climate worriers.
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:05am
  - MCos
    
    Not me.
    Standard British Morris Minor Peoplemover
    
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    March 15, 2019 12:49pm
- tf78
  
  Cos, what you say is all true, there is plenty to whine about.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:52am
- Surely Knott
  
  I notice a lot of greenies are always happy unaware of their jumble of contradictions. They complain about climate/cooling/warming/change but then happily spend $75k flying around the world attending conferences. They complain that climate denial is anti science not about wealth or power transfers, but then try and conflate climate change and social justice.. They whine about poverty and the lack of welfare system yet slash oil industry permits when oil production is what provides 30% of the government income for Norways famous welfare system.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:55am
  - Tall Man
    
    75K in 3 months…..
    
    He’ll need a long break, overseas of course, to recover from a smack in the mouth……..
    
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    March 15, 2019 10:07am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      How do you get a black eye from a smack in the mouth? I haven’t paid much attention.
      
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      March 15, 2019 10:26am
      - Tall Man
        
        Big mouth?
        
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        March 15, 2019 10:41am
- Tall Man
  
  Have you ever heard the phrase “9 long years of neglect”?
  
  Is that a whine?
  
  In my opinion the only time the left stop whining is when they have their hands in other peoples pockets.
  
  Once again, a lefty uses a derogatory insult to describe a perfectly legitimate action. It’s called complaining about stupid decisions and actions.
  
  Now fuck off and eat your custard square.
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:03am
- Komata
  
  McCos
  
  The obvious question (based on a reading of your own posts over the past few months), why do YOU whine?
  
  (And what makes YOU think your whining is so special?)
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:04am
Happychappy

It surprises me that the NZ Public have sat back and allowed Phil Twytford to give the impression that they are stupid and don’t care about his blatant lies over Kiwibiuld.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/111245015/kiwibuild-houses-selling-on-par-with-private-homes
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March 15, 2019 9:20am
Harkman

Interesting National MPs get attacked all the time yet the media is never concerned. But last night they were really concerned about the Eunuch, I wonder why? ?
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March 15, 2019 9:20am
dime

I’m still kinda shocked the kids didn’t organise the protest for a weekend… I’m sure they would have gotten even better numbers lmao
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March 15, 2019 9:22am
- ABS
  
  My daughter isn’t off school today despite living near Wellington.
  I just think its kind of ironic that schoolteachers strike during school days, have special teachers only days which affect the rest of us, yet are moaning about children taking one day off to protest.
  Suck it up snowflakes. Fucks give – zero.
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:02am
  - ABS
    
    Wont let me edit the comment.
    Should read:
    Fucks given – Zero.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:04am
- RiP NZ
  
  Look fwd to kids and parents renouncing their out of zone enrolments,
  Giving up cross town trips and attending local schools on foot / pedals.
  Yeah fkn right. Half of Sth Auckland empties daily
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:12pm
- All_on_Red
  
  We’ve just got back from measuring Tidal Movement at Anchor Bay at Tawharanui.
  Fucking gorgeous.
  Got some really good rides.
  Saw some students waving placards on a corner in Warkworth. My kids waved.
  Lol
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:31pm
mustlovedogs

Donna Awatere Huata secures top job as Māori Climate Commissioner. Please could anybody shed some light on why there is a specialist Maori Climate Change person, but not a specialist Maori Stop Killing the Children and Babies Person?
Oh…….. this is why
Awatere Huata entered Parliament in 1996 with the ACT party, but was expelled in 2003 when fraud allegations emerged, prompting a long legal battle about whether she could stay on as an independent MP.

Awatere Huata was found guilty of fraud in 2005 and was sentenced to two years and nine months in jail.

She and her husband Wi Huata were found to have taken $80,000 from a state-funded trust she founded to improve literacy among underprivileged Māori children.
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March 15, 2019 9:23am
- Universal Smith
  
  What a disgrace. We need to stop congratulating ourselves about the lack of corruption in this country and raise our game.
  
  Maori have better to offer than this old crook.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:37am
  - Universal Smith
    
    It makes me mad. If we are going to assist Maori then it needs to work and provide results. Millions are spent on this PC bullshit while the circumstances of Maori decline. Cynical smug pricks.
    
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    March 15, 2019 9:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  As I have previously mentioned..
  Māori Climate Commissioner
  
  This is just a made-up title for a small Organization trying to get into the C-trading business.
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1809/S00179/maori-climate-commissioner-announced.htm
  https://www.maoricarbonfoundation.com/
  Sure, their web-site looks like they are a Govt authority; they are not.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12108276
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:38am
- 3-coil
  
  Totally appropriate then that Donna Awatere Huata (a convicted fraudster) is appointed to the bogus role of “Maori Climate Commissioner”.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:45am
Poppa

If my kids were still at school I would be setting them a task of finding out where the money goes. We pay billions in carbon taxes but nobody has ever told me where it goes?

I would love to know if anyone has managed to find out the truth. My suspicion is that it goes to the UN for their wants & desires & it has nothing to do with climate change.
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March 15, 2019 9:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It goes to the Green Climate Fund, set up by UN
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Climate_Fund
  
  https://www.greenclimate.fund/home
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:54am
- Tall Man
  
  Less what gets pocketed by the “instigators” and “facilitators”.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:55am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Is it common kowledge among the NZ public that NZ pays billions in carbon taxes?
  Where does the money go?
  What do we gain in return?
  Any anyway, since when does a sovereign state pay taxes?
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:43am
  - Poppa
    
    We pay in our power & fuel & probably most things as tax & our precious Govt. passes it on
    
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    March 15, 2019 2:13pm
unaha-closp

Now that Brexit has been annulled, how bad a deal can the EU force down the British throat?
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March 15, 2019 9:36am
Graham Sharpe

Every time I hear yet another enthusiastic 14 year old school girl opining on climate change action it sounds just like the Prime Minister. Why that?
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March 15, 2019 9:43am
- Tall Man
  
  That’s unfair, the 14 year old is probably smarter. I very much doubt she’d get into bed with “what’s in it for wynston”.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:48am
- KevinH
  
  Sitting in Macca’s enjoying a muffin this morning as hundreds of the next generation of SJW pour into Welly for this mornings protest on the steps of parliament.
  A steady drizzle has begun to fall accompanied by a fresh southerly which will test the resolve of these keen young folks who typically don’t have a raincoat between them.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:59am
RW Capitalist

Got this via EMail, from Hipkin’s twitter.
“It shouldn’t matter where training is delivered” – Hipkins | Education Minister
@chrishipkins
says we need a vocational education system that seamlessly delivers training needed regardless of if the training is delivered on the job or through a provider
(link: http://ow.ly/UmwL30o0mIe)
ow.ly/UmwL30o0mIe
My reply
So charter schools/ partnership schools are OK now?
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March 15, 2019 9:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

It’s big business being Green.

This is where our biggest companies are investing ….
buying up C-credits, planting more pine trees on marginal land…

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1903/S00374/air-nz-contact-genesis-z-join-in-carbon-forest-project.htm

p.s. These chaps are good-to-go for planting up this winter… Shane still hasn’t got the cuzzies off the couch or brought in the Island folk…..
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March 15, 2019 9:47am
lastmanstanding

When a Parliament refuses to carry out the lawful will of the people that is a blow to democracy.

We saw this when our Parliament refused the will of 92% in the anti smacking issue.

But the UK situation is much worse. Democracy in the UK is now dead. It has been on its deathbed for some decades as bit by bit the Elites have taken back the democratic rights of the citizens.

We will see the same in NZ unless enough of us stand up and fight for the democratic rights that our forebears went to war and died for.

Free speech is under attack by the Left. The right to hold an opinion that differs from the Ruling Elite is under attack.

It will get worse unless KBer individually and collectively stand against the Left and defeat them.
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March 15, 2019 9:47am
- Tall Man
  
  I believe the best action that can be taken is to laugh at them and their stupid ideas.
  
  We see how stupid they can be when we get the daily dose of turd from the idiots on here like ztev, gump, mikey, marquess and the rest.
  
  Left policies are based on envy and hatred for those different to themselves. They deserve contempt.
  
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  March 15, 2019 9:53am
sam green

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/workers-over-taxed-incorrect-secondary-tax-codes-set-relief-after-legislation-passes-through-parliament?variant=tb_v_1

Secondary tax gone – great.
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March 15, 2019 9:55am
- rangitoto
  
  Excellent. I’ll be investing in some good looking horses ASAP.
  
  “It will also allow new racehorse investors to claim tax deductions if they purchase a standout yearling;”
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:13am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Hey, Rangitoto, do you want a list of horse traders to contact?
    This law change fixes up a silly error. Imagine if a very wealthy horse breeder and Rangitoto went 90% 10% in a yearling colt. The extremely wealthy horse breeder could claim 75% depreciation on his 90% of the horse, but Rangitoto could not claim any depreciation on his 10% because he had not been a horse breeder. If you cannot understand that then don’t worry. Nathan Guy couldn’t either and John Key so hated the horse racing fraternity he foisted that waste of space upon them as the Minister of Racing. Give some marks to Winnie; he has had that silly error fixed up, much to the concern of Inland Revenue Department head office wallahs, who had been very unco-operative on this matter over the past 10 years.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:38am
Yvette

Reality –
US official reveals Atlantic drilling plan while hailing Trump’s ability to distract public.
The Trump administration has spearheaded an effort in recent years to open undeveloped federal waters to oil and gas drilling.

A top US official told a group of fossil fuel industry leaders that the Trump administration will soon issue a proposal making large portions of the Atlantic available for oil and gas development, and said that it is easier to work on such priorities because Donald Trump is skilled at sowing “absolutely thrilling” distractions, according to records of a meeting obtained by the Guardian.

The seismic surveys could commence as early as this year, in coastal waters anywhere from Cape May, New Jersey, to Cape Canaveral, Florida, but first they require final approval from the interior department. – the Guardian, UK

And Ardern trashed gas exploration to impress whom?
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March 15, 2019 10:07am
- Universal Smith
  
  Ardern wants to replicate the successes of the Venezuelan model, another oil rich country.
  
  Apparently there is no money in oil anyway, now that we all drive electric cars powered by a windmill.
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:29am
Chuck Bird

The following I emailed the Solicitor General this morning. I will keep Kiwibloggers posted.

The must be a way to get rid of incompetent judges.

Dear Solicitor General

I wrote to you by email on 28 Jan 2019 requesting an appeal of sentence of Grant Hannis to be considered. I did not receive a reply and the sentence was not appealed. The judge believed it was an isolated incident from an otherwise blameless man. It turned out afterwards that there had been another complainant from the rest home.

I hope I am not wasting my time with this latest complaint. The link in the case I refer to is below.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12212420

There is another link to Kiwiblog where this case is being discussed.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/03/how_is_he_not_a_child_sex_offender.html

The judge who heard the case was Judge Neave. This judge has a track record has an appalling record of inadequate sentences and insensitive comments that upset victims or their families.
If you are in any doubt just Google his name.

There should be no need for me to cut and paste what is in the above links.

If you do not think this case should be appealed would you kindly state your reasons. Would you also tell me who you are accountable to so I can take this matter further?

I would appreciate a timely response.

Yours sincerely
Chuck Bird
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March 15, 2019 10:43am
- Universal Smith
  
  People like you end up with private investigators looking into them. As we now know.
  
  Dirty governments don’t care about you.
  
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  March 15, 2019 10:50am
- MT_Tinman
  
  I’d prefer we found a way of getting rid of incompetent judges of which political party to vote for. 😉
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:03am
  - Universal Smith
    
    Judges can not just sit there an impose whatever penalty they want. Even if it is provided for in the legislation. They have to follow the norm for similar cases, or else it will just get appealed.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:08am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      US, If judges do not hand out sentences that the vast majority of their employers think are reasonable in a number of cases then the judge should be censored and if they do not learn they should be sacked.
      
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      March 15, 2019 1:33pm
ABS

Regarding the attack on James Shaw yesterday, there were a lot of people in the thread calling for more protection of ministers to avoid this sort of carry on.
I disagree. Ministers should be made to live among the fruit their policies bear. If that means they’re belted by idiots because their policies make the country a less safe place, so be it.

While I am on the subject, any politician that goes to Waitangi to appease the special peoples know what they are letting themselves in for. There should be no special protection for any minister that puts him/herself in dangers way.

TLDR version
Let them eat cake.
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March 15, 2019 10:56am
- Tall Man
  
  I see your point but no one, mp or any other arsehole, should have to fear violence.
  
  Now, if the assailant had approached him and told him why he thought he was an arsehole or even stood there and yelled some form of abuse I wouldn’t have a problem, but that’s my opinion.
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:05am
  - ABS
    
    I wouldn’t attack any minister or condone attacks on any minister, but the difference in reporting on this and the Joyce affair is appalling.
    
    Joyce, we got slow motion video of a cock hitting him in the face, day after day and untrammeled glee from the media and opposition.
    
    Shaw we have a whole slew of concerned serious greens and labour ministers interviewed, telling us how it’s an affront to our democracy.
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:13am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      And duncan garner on AM saying there should be more dildo throwing. Not at his team of course.
      
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      March 15, 2019 11:46am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Worthy of another complaint to tv3?
        
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        March 15, 2019 11:48am
    - BeaB
      
      The Left and the media revelled in the attacks on Key, Brash and Joyce.
      How is this one on Shaw any different?
      
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      March 15, 2019 12:06pm
      - ABS
        
        Even the attack on Nick Smith was brushed off and minimised, though it involved a deadly poison
        One rule for thee, another for me.
        
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        March 15, 2019 1:14pm
    - MCos
      
      “I wouldn’t attack any minister or condone attacks on any minister“
      
      You just did.
      
      “If that means they’re belted by idiots because their policies make the country a less safe place, so be it.”
      
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      March 15, 2019 1:12pm
      - ABS
        
        I see what you did there. You took 2 comments out of context from 2 different posts and strung them together to give the comments a vehement unmeant, different meaning.
        Well done you. Slow clap.
        Cock.
        
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        March 15, 2019 1:20pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Subjective,I think lots of Labour and the COL’s policies make us less safe, politically do you?
        
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        March 15, 2019 3:11pm
  - ABS
    
    I would also like to point out that the elite, living away from and cloistered from the serfs and poor is exactly what caused the French Revolution.
    Lawmakers shielded from their own bad policies is bad for a democracy.
    Lefties already live in a social media bubble, I can only imagine the abuse of power that could occur should they be protected as a special class.
    Animal Farm anyone?
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:22am
  - Jack5
    
    How about licensing Green MPs to carry pistols? That would be an ironic protection from the maniac fringe.
    
    Perhaps to keep CO2 emissions down, they might be issued with high-powered air pistols, with a special holster on her bike for Julie Anne Genter. ?
    
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    March 15, 2019 11:33am
- Universal Smith
  
  It is not hard to imagine a cause for this incident that would invoke sympathy for the attacker. I am sure if everyone really tried they could think of something themselves.
  
  It seems an assumption is being made that this was a politically motivated attack. I have no idea, but I doubt it. Lots of people, who are not politicians, get punched on a daily basis. Statistically it is highly unlikely this was about politics.
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:34am
Jack5

The Lime scooter classification affair is putting the heat on Mike Williams, former Labour Party president (from 2000 to 2009) and campaign manager. He has also been a political commentator on Radio NZ’s Red Radio.

Lime has admitted it hired Williams as a consultant in Lime’s campaign to have the the NZ Transport Agency re-classify the electric scooters as non motor-vehicles ahead of their launch in Auckland and Christchurch. Williams is a former director of the agency.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111182726/lime-lobbying-rushed-nzta-to-exempt-escooters-from-vehicle-regulations
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March 15, 2019 11:23am
- Universal Smith
  
  How about these jobsworths mind their own business?
  
  They wanted alternative transport and private companies have stepped up to do what billions in tax dollars have been unable to – Environmentally friendly transport for the masses.
  
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  March 15, 2019 11:36am
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    Yeah but not on the fucking foot paths.
    
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    March 15, 2019 12:35pm
Stars And Stripes

Security of MPs discussed after attack on Green Party co-leader James Shaw
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/384768/security-of-mps-discussed-after-attack-on-green-party-co-leader-james-shaw
“Concerns about violence against MPs have risen after an unprovoked attack on Green Party co-leader James Shaw yesterday”

Just a couple of general comments on articles like this which I think are relevant.
1.They keep referring to the attack as unprovoked as though it would really be anything else.
I mean did Steven Joyce provoke his attacker, did Nick Smith provoke his attacker and so on unless you subscribe to the twisted point of view that just being a politician qualifies you for being attacked.
2.The article goes on to quote former MP Sue Bradford and her opinions on what needs to be done security wise and the like.
Well excuse me for raining on your parade but this is the same Sue Bradford who came out in defence of the Green Party guy caught vandalising opposition politicians billboards by saying as far as she is concerned it is a legitimate form of protest.
Well yes vandalising billboards and assault are two different things but ultimately they all feed into the same thing which is lawlessness and the feeling you are justified in doing whatever you are going to do because you are right and they deserved it.
So maybe time for some reflection now Sue that in your own little way you are part of the problem that we are seeing manifest itself at present.
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March 15, 2019 11:27am
- All_on_Red
  
  Do we know the reason for the attack yet?
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:24pm
Manolo

Whatever it takes to gain political power, shout this dinosaur!
https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/14/pelosi-supports-lowering-voting-age-16/

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said at her weekly press conference Thursday she personally would support lowering the national voting age to 16.

“I myself, personally, I’m not speaking for my caucus, I myself have always been for lowering the voting age to 16,” Pelosi said when asked about her thoughts on the issue. “I think it’s really important to capture kids when they’re in high school when they’re interested in all of this when they’re learning about government to be able to vote.”
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March 15, 2019 11:39am
Jack5

Milky seems to have forgotten to remind us of today’s anniversaries.

1. The murder of Julius Caesar in 44 BC

2. The riot by NZ soldiers at Sling Camp, England, in 1919.

Tired of waiting for shipment home and being sent on route marches, Otago Regiment veterans bust into a canteen, drank the beer, and then rolled barrels down a slope on to the parade ground stampeding Canterbury veterans as panicking officers tried to assemble them.
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March 15, 2019 11:40am
Kabull

Can someone help me. I hear this morning much angst over the abuse of children in State care. What I want to know is why the organisation (Orangi Tamariki) is carrying the blame and not the care-givers who actually had the kids in their care? Has any care-giver been prosecuted? If what I hear is correct, most of the abuse is surely a criminal offence.
Once again ‘the State’ is being hammered for things that are actually personal responsibility.
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March 15, 2019 11:43am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’m pleased to see our State’s chid-care guardian being so open about the abuse that is happening under its watch.
  
  I would like to see some quantitative evidence as to how well that grand experiment of keeping children in their whanau/family setting has worked out.
  
  I would like to see some research into why their staff are failing to place vulnerable children into safe environments.
  
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  March 15, 2019 12:44pm
- KevOB
  
  The State employees the social workers who condemn the children to alternative care. A junior social worker has awesome power of destruction.
  
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  March 15, 2019 5:53pm
rouppe

Just seen James Shaw after the cowardly attack on him. He’s got a fair dinkum black eye.

As opposed to Aziz from newshub who said he was knocked to the ground with punches to the face and turned up the next day without a scratch visible.
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March 15, 2019 11:50am
Shaun the Sheep

ABS@10:56
Many have commented here on various occasions that our police, justice and corrections processes will not improve until politicians and judges etc are forced to live with the same realities that members of the public experience in terms of personal, familial and property security.
I am inclined to agree.

But the attack on Shaw was not the same.
It wasn’t ‘just crime’ as experienced by ordinary New Zealanders all too frequently, it was a targetted political attack involving violence.
As such it was disgusting, and will do nothing to clarify the thinking of decision-makers.
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March 15, 2019 11:53am
BeaB

Grant Robertson has been eating too many pies. Look at those photos of him with James Shaw. Perhaps he should do some walking to work – though he’d run screaming if anyone took a poke at him.
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March 15, 2019 12:01pm
- Universal Smith
  
  Oh I think Grant rather likes blokes poking him.
  
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  March 15, 2019 12:13pm
secondcumming

No wonder this country is falling apart. It’s populated by a new breed of wossies!

Just the other night I was heading out of Westhaven, when I hit one of those fucking *speed- humps* a bit quick and scraped the air-dam under the front of the car.
Did I run to the Herald to have a bleat? Nope. Just booked it into Contys and got it fixed.

Not like this bloody *wimp*……

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1106072491905167360
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March 15, 2019 12:04pm
- Universal Smith
  
  That could have been a little child or old person he crashed into. He should be charged.
  
  These road lice cause enough harm and misery on the road without having to endure them on the foot path.
  
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  March 15, 2019 12:11pm
- Swifty
  
  I must be missing something – what’s a grown man doing riding on the bloody footpath in the first place?
  
  Edit: I see it is actually a ‘bike path’ – looks like a footpath to me; it being shared with pedestrians.
  
  First rule of boxing – protect yourself at all times.
  
  Maybe this guy should look where he’s going in future.
  
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  March 15, 2019 12:52pm
- Evadne
  
  Note the weird (but no doubt deliberate) use of language “a crack in path caught wheel”. In this sentence, the path’s role is active, and his role is passive. It must the path’s fault, and therefore someone else’s fault; he is a passive victim.
  
  What they should have said, by all rules of language and integrity: “his wheel caught a crack in the path”. His wheel is now active, the path is passive (as an inanimate object should be). There may be problems with the way the path was laid, but his actions (riding a bike) led to the accident (and it may have been avoided by different actions e.g. taking care where he steered, watching where he was going, choosing a different angle of approach).
  
  Victim mentality and blame culture embedded and reinforced in one simple language choice.
  
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  March 15, 2019 1:45pm
  - sooty
    
    His force field lycra was not working that day!
    Should have looked were he was going.
    
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    March 15, 2019 3:17pm
srylands

Part of me wishes that the Government would take decisive action to reduce carbon emissions. Because it would actually show the dreamers what it would take. We could probably reduce emissions materially. A carbon tax to take petrol to $4.00. (Sorry kids. Walk to school. But you wanted action, right?). Quickly move to 100 percent renewables electricity. Sure some days there will be no power. Put another jumper on.

Btw I liked the fleet of diesel buses that was waiting to take the kids back to school for the afternoon.
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March 15, 2019 12:34pm
- All_on_Red
  
  When you say ‘Carbon’ , are you referring to soot?
  Carbon is an Element.
  Do you really mean Carbon Dioxide, the harmless Trace Gas?
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:22pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Immigration back up to 60k a year, basically same as high point under National. Labour and NZF all mouth and no trousers (as usual)
https://www.interest.co.nz/property/98648/migration-flows-are-heading-back-towards-record-levels-two-years-ago
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March 15, 2019 1:26pm
Nookin

I have never really believed in re-incarnation. The prospect that one might well return as a dung beetle or some other equally inauspicious being is not really one to which I aspire. Mind you, I have come across people who clearly started as dung beetles but some how morphed into human form —or partially so.o
This week, I have had cause to reconsider.
I read somewhere that in the early 1800s, Collingwood was considered as a potential capital of NZ. The colonising luminaries at the time designated a wandering neanderthal to be the official traffic engineer for Collingwood and locked kim in a dungeon with a map and quill and told him to prepare a street plan for Collingwood. So, he did. Some of the streets, I am told, involved near vertical graddient and others were equally impassable.
It was, in short, a complete disaster.

I mention it because it seems that said traffic engineer has been re-incarnated as, believe it or not, a traffic engineer. AND he has been let loose on Wanaka [very likely working from the same dungeon in UK].
Why would anyone ever direct the flow of traffic so that the queue to enter a roundabout at one end of an arterial road starts beyond the other end. It takes maybe 10-15 minutes to walk the length of Brownston Street. It now takes up to 15-20 minutes to drive it.
The only other explanation is that QLDC has engaged a traffic engineer from Auckland and that person has become so homesick as to set about duplicating Auckland’s traffic congestion in Wanaka.
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March 15, 2019 1:37pm
- Fletch
  
  I believe in re-incarceration tho 😉
  
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  March 15, 2019 1:49pm
Jack5

An appalling rape – of a woman in hospital recovering from surgery.

The rapist, in addition to prison got “a warning under the three strikes legislation.”

In case, like me, you don’t know the detail of the three strikes legislation, this is from the Justice Department web site:

A first warning is issued when an offender aged 18 or over at the time of a qualifying offence, and who does not have any previous warnings, is convicted of that offence. Once an offender has received a first ‘strike’ warning, it stays on their record for good unless their conviction is overturned.

If that offender is subsequently convicted of another qualifying offence they receive a final warning and, if sentenced to imprisonment, will serve that sentence in full without the possibility of parole. The first and final warnings will stay on the offender’s record.

On conviction of a third qualifying offence the court must impose the maximum penalty for the offence. The court must also order that the sentence be served without parole, unless the court considers that would be manifestly unjust.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12212933
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March 15, 2019 1:38pm
RF

Thought we had a measles scare with warnings of students congregating.

Arderns stupid boy friend has gone public telling students to get bloody stuck in today and to wear punishment for protesting like a badge of honour.

What an utter FW.
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March 15, 2019 1:44pm
- Inandout
  
  RF, he has a brain akin to a cod fish. I don’t recall any other ‘husbands’ of PMs being so inanely outspoken.
  
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  March 15, 2019 1:53pm
Manolo

Islamophiles and barbarians of the world, rejoice!
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/iran-rights-lawyer-sentenced-to-38-years-in-prison-and-148-lashes-husband-says/ar-BBUMEOj

Iran has faced international condemnation after one of the country’s most prominent human rights lawyers, detained for eight months, said she had been sentenced to a total of 38 years in prison and 148 lashes, according to her husband.
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March 15, 2019 1:58pm
- Inandout
  
  Manolo. do I need to visit Specsavers, or does that boy in the photo look slightly inbred?
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:58pm
Jack5

Europe leaning Right?

The European Parliament president, Italian Antonio Tajani, has apologised after defending Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, and saying the dictator did some “positive things”.

Tajani, in his apology, said the remarks were “in no way intended to justify or minimise an anti-democratic and totalitarian regime.”

Tajani said earlier that Mussolini had done some “positive things” such as building roads and bridges before imprisoning political opponents, implementing draconian discrimination laws against Italian Jews, allying with Hitler and plunging Italy into war.

“You don’t have to agree with his methods… but let’s be honest, Mussolini built roads, bridges, buildings, sports installations, he remade many parts of our Italy,” he said during a radio interview.

“Generally speaking I don’t think his government action was positive. But things were done,” he added.
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March 15, 2019 2:00pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Classic defences of dictatorship:
  “made the train runs on time”
  “built the autobahns”
  “restored national pride”
  etc, etc
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:03pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    Miken. You forgot the free education and health care. You forgot about protecting the rights of indigenous people. You forgot allowing ordinary people a voice in the political process. You forgot rather a lot actually.
    
    But of course you are just repeating the lies you were brainwashed with.
    
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    March 15, 2019 2:28pm
  - Inandout
    
    Or this one m&m:
    
    ‘Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union’. Joseph Stalin
    
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    March 15, 2019 3:02pm
  - kowtow
    
    Took on the mafia.
    
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    March 15, 2019 8:21pm
Ross12

It looks like the UK MPs are losing touch with the voters over all this Brexit voting:

“The snap poll conducted Thursday, the day after the Commons voted against leaving the EU without a deal, found that 43 per cent of Britons want MPs to vote against a delay, versus 38 per cent who back a Brexit delay.

“This is a notable turnaround in opinion since the end of last week, when half (49%) of Britons backed a deadline extension and only a third (34%) were against it,” YouGov researchers noted.”

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/14/majority-of-britons-dont-want-brexit-to-be-delayed/
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March 15, 2019 2:03pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I don’t know that such a poll will reveal much. The deadline extension will come because the MPs cannot find majority backing for any of the main alternatives. This simply reflects the ongoing division of opinion among voters.
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:26pm
  - Ross12
    
    The Article 50 extension can only occur if all 27 EU countries agree to it. The EU elite have already said they will not agree to an extension unless there is a plan in place from the UK. May’s plan has already been voted out so there is no plan. Will the EU elite allow themselves to effectively lose face by changing their mind?
    The exit on 29 March is part of UK law –can you see them getting their act together in the 14 days to change the law in time?
    
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    March 15, 2019 3:22pm
MrTips

I have to say, being confronted by a cop with his rifle (catch off) telling everyone to “get out” is not your everyday occurrence at ChCh Hospital. Plenty of them here – lots of sirens etc.

The mosque is a bit grim right now….
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March 15, 2019 2:15pm
- secondcumming
  
  ALLAHU AKBAR !!!!!
  
  [God is Great]
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:18pm
Swifty

Trouble down at the masjid?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039
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March 15, 2019 2:18pm
Jack5

Gidday Milky, here’s a bone for you …

Almost half a century later, an old man is being tried for murder over the paratrooper shootings in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.

Wasn’t there going to be a truce – for the British soldiers as well as for the IRA terrorists? Do you believe suggestions that two former IRA men will stand trial over the incident where the paratroopers opened fire?

This follows the persecution led by crooked lawyer Phil Shiner of British soldiers who fought in Iraq.

Who would now volunteer to fight for Britain?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/one-soldier-too-many-say-veterans-group-as-bloody-sunday-paratrooper-faces-murder-trial-37913079.html
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March 15, 2019 2:18pm
- Jack5
  
  A tune to put you in the mood, Milky:
  
  https://youtu.be/hH0n6rMQb1c
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:24pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just txt me to say the bangladesh criketers were lucky to get out of the Chch mosk alive. Sounds like there might have benn a terror attack down there? 🙁
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March 15, 2019 2:26pm
- Wired-one
  
  Yes, Stuff are reporting a mass shooting.
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:28pm
Surely Knott

Clarke Gayford reckons kids should get stuck in and wear any punishments like a bage of honour. Is this the climate change or the legalise marijuana thing he’s talking about.
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March 15, 2019 2:32pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Lawnmowers
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:39pm
- Happychappy
  
  No show without punch, wait till his daughter grows up and wants to wag school because a Political Leader of a Party he dislikes https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/03/clarke-gayford-tells-climate-strikers-to-wear-punishment-like-a-badge-of-honour.html
  Tells them to.
  
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  March 15, 2019 2:53pm
  - sooty
    
    School. She wont need to go to school. She will learn everthing at her mothers knee!
    
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    March 15, 2019 3:11pm
Steve (North Shore)

TV1 News at 12pm today. (yeah I was just passing the TV) Dan newsreader was on about James Shaw being hit. I’m sure he said Shaw ended up in hospital after suffering a fatal attack. Fatal? Really?
Now that is good comprehension – not
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March 15, 2019 2:38pm
- cmm
  
  Facial attack maybe?
  
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  March 15, 2019 7:38pm
sooty

Bit of wishful thinking by the teleprompt reader.
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March 15, 2019 3:09pm
Jack5

NZ migration numbers higher in January.

Well done, Judas Peters.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/384805/increasing-numbers-of-migrants-moving-to-new-zealand
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