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peterwn

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I had assumed that the National Caucus was ticking over nicely with work on strategy, policy, holding the Government to account etc. Indeed signs are that this is starting to produce results, so much so, that Simon is seen as a menace and must be knocked off his perch.
The CGT response is going to require all the cunningness of the likes of Niccolò Machiavelli and Jean-Baptiste Colbert (the goose plucker), and I had assumed National MP’s were up to that challenge.
However the recent Select Meeting fiasco has made me think again. National’s MP’s in walking out (agreed they were annoyed and frustrated) without thinking of the consequences or best overall way of dealing with the problem showed up a lapse which could be put down to a brain fart at the time. However a senior National MP who in my opinion should have known better made it worse by trying to justify that stance. My faith in the National Caucus being able to effectively deal with the CGT business is somewhat shattered.
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February 25, 2019 8:01am
- brett68
  
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  Choosing Simon Bridges as leader pretty much shattered my faith in the National caucus.
  
  Complete disconnect with reality.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:09am
  - peterwn
    
    Assuming you favoured Judith Collins, that could have had an even worse outcome for National as it seems she would not have the confidence of Caucus colleagues. Sticking her neck out and crushing a few cars is not really a sign of leadership potential. Look at the trouble Labour has suffered by having its previous leaders imposed on Caucus from outside.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:16am
    - brett68
      
      Picking someone who has media and voter presence should always be top of the list, if that person is Collins then Collins is the best choice.
      
      You’re not picking a ceo it run a company, the point of the leader is to be the face of your party, the one who has the ability to engage the voting public and sell what National is all about.
      
      Be honest with yourself, is Simon Bridges the right person for that job?
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:40am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Simon Bridges is the man to be the next but one Prime Minister of New Zealnd after Winston has had his turn.
        
        Hold that line !
        
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        February 25, 2019 8:53am
      - peterwn
        
        Yes! He has the confidence of his caucus.
        
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        February 25, 2019 8:59am
      - brett68
        
        But not the voting public, obviously the National MPs aren’t particularly fussed if they’re in opposition or power.
        
        As long as you’re getting paid.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:11am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Yes, and I am sick and tired of Duncan Garner’s bullying behaviour towards him, not the worst example of it today but I have made a formal complaint to media works, where there are supposed to be standards including, balance and fairness amongst others. what crime exactly is it that Duncan thinks that Simon has committed?
        
        https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAUngQm-1XN8phoBl3JN3O2xtyOpzGaLG_p-6oL8dsSJa1jw/formResponse
        
        Perhaps others would like to do the same.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:22am
      - peterwn
        
        Re ‘voting public’ – Bearing in mind that in the polls question on preferred leader the pollster does not read out a list to select from but expects the person being polled to name someone that comes to mind it is not too surprising the PM is head and shoulders above the others. Moreover as I have explained before, the ‘preferred leader’ is effectively who the Media chooses by the way they present news. The media journos are acknowledged as being pro left and hence would dearly love to see Simon topple. The obnoxious Stuff editorial last week about Simon ‘minding the step’ was exactly designed to give a further negative image of Simon built upon previous negative polling. The National caucus would be crazy if they were to be effectively bossed around by the media and enemies of National and topple Simon on that basis. They would also have handed Winston a minor victory – he predicted (when full of hubris) that National would chew through two leaders before the next election. He must be proved wrong and Simon must be able to throw that back into Winston’s face during the 2020 campaign.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:19am
      - Pascal
        
        It doesn’t matter who is the National Party leader. You could bring the Dalai Lama in as leader and the media would find a reason to crucify him because he isn’t the Anointed Labour Leader.
        
        Simon Bridges is capable, well spoken and can run the government effectively. I’d rather have that than a show pony.
        
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        February 25, 2019 1:06pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Perhaps you need to join forces with a couple of other “stardust” followers and check out empty headed TV “personalities” with “charisma” and see if they want to lead the largest political party in NZ.
    
    tamati coffey has gone but from what I see there are shitloads of “airheads” out there with the “charisma” you crave. Political skills obviously not required as you seem to want “tv screen cred” rather than brains and competence.
    
    What a truly shallow person you must be.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:40am
    - brett68
      
      You’re a businessman?
      Here’s a question,
      
      What’s more important, what you think is great or what your clients think is great?
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:43am
      - Tall Man
        
        How much money they pay me.
        
        I don’t give a fuck what people think, they come for the service and if they don’t get it they don’t come back.
        
        Simon is not a business. He is a leader and the leader of the largest political party in NZ.
        
        His team is the business and they are doing fine.
        
        Stop buying into the media hype, it devalues your intellect.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:34am
  - Positan
    
    “… shattered my faith in the National caucus.” Indeed, it shattered the faith of many longtime National supporters.
    At our electorate meeting, called to “acquaint” our MP of the local membership’s views of the leadership contenders, the 60+ present wanted only two candidates. 75% wanted Joyce and Collins, the other 25% wanted Collins and Joyce. Although our MP attempted several times to “suggest” the combination of Bridges and Adams, none of the attendees gave any support to the pair.
    Then, when it became known that Bridges had seen Joyce as a rival and had effectively engineered his departure by denying him the Finance portfolio – the only one in which he was interested – I realised that whatever were Bridges’ qualities, they were completely insufficient to render the necessary elemental substance of a National Party leader.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:09am
    - peterwn
      
      Jami also tried to boss Simon Bridges around wanting particular jobs and spat the dummy when he did not get his way. If your scenario is indeed correct, Stephen departed in a dignified manner. Simon cannot be all things to all his MP’s or electors.
      I do wonder what planet your electorate meeting was held on – at the electorate meeting I went to recently – the leadership was not discussed. Perhaps you went to a Labour electorate meeting by accident.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:26am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Or is full of shit.
        
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        February 25, 2019 11:20am
      - Positan
        
        Peterson, your comment seems to show your understanding of the National Party, its political needs and the substance of its personnel, is very dubious if not non-existent. Steven Joyce, in terms of his background, his practical experience, his election-organising capabilities, indeed his all round value to the party, was probably the most important member left in National’s caucus. That Bridges for petty reasons pursuant to his own political “security” could rationalise any benefit whatsoever from losing Joyce showed how determinably inadequate was his judgment.
        To infer that Joyce tried “to boss Bridges around” is utterly fatuous. Bridges had cooked up a deal with Amy Adams while they awaited the caucus vote on the leadership, that whomsoever won would grant the other a top portfolio.
        As a National member since the ’60s, with many years of electorate committee involvement I’m more than well aware of for what the party is supposed to stand. The irrelevant snideness of your response contributed nothing. If you are a Bridges supporter, say so and give your reasons. You come across as vaguely as the anti-Trump brigade in the States. Quite unnecessarily.
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:24pm
- Monique Watson
  
  I totally disagreee. It was never going to be reported back to Parlisment as the Labour late entry made it in breach of the Select Committee rules. Their their reentry would have just been a feel good measure.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:15am
  - peterwn
    
    Gosh! I never knew that one Select Committee meeting starting late was going to invalidate all the Select Committee work on a particular topic.
    If the members all agreed that the meeting was valid despite starting late then there would seem to be no breach of Standing Orders. Anyway I doubt very much that the processes of Parliament would be subject to Judicial Review (division of powers between Parliament, Executive and Judiciary).
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:22am
    - Monique Watson
      
      Yeah let’s just make up the rules as we go. Worked for Jacinda Ardern.
      Parliament is an instituation and should be respected accordingly by all participants. There’s a reason why the bell goes off to alert all the Members that Patliament is about to sit( time is of the essence and respect for God and Country.
      It’s not a PTA meeting.
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:32am
      - peterwn
        
        Parliament can start late if all the Members agree it can. This is called ‘leave’ – Standing Orders can be suspended on any occasion where ‘leave’ is given ie all members agree. The same would go for Select Committees.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:05am
      - peterwn
        
        To make myself even more clear – if the Division Bells packed a sad just before a sitting the Speaker or Clerk would ask Parliamentary staff and whips to individually summon the MP’s to the House. If some were not there by 2pm the Speaker would probably delay his entry until the parties’ whips had advised that MP’s who were going to be present were present. This lateness would not invalidate the sitting and if there was any doubt the Speaker could seek ‘leave’ to start late. OK there may be a few jibes about nine years of neglect on servicing the Division Bells (or hooters as they now are) but that would be all.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:33am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Not the only one started late, even according to the media.
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:47am
- Simon
  
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  Mathew Hooton in NZ herald.
  
  “The probability of Michael Cullen’s capital gains tax (CGT) ever being implemented is close to zero.”
  
  Like everyone else Hooton knows Bridges is bone idle so he covers for him. Bridges dosent have to get off his arse because CGT dead anyway.
  
  18 months later when CGT is up and running Hooton will write another article about Ardern being the come back kid against all expectations. Arden is the most gifted NZ leader in modern times. How can the Natz compete against such wonder?
  
  Total excuse for Natz / Bridges constant failure to tackle the biggest mong government in NZ history.
  
  That how Natz roll.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:27am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Thanks Simon. Quite the funniest post I have read in a long time. Keep the gags going. A good belly laugh is a great way to start the day.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:32am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Thank you for bothering to read it for the benefit of the rest of team Kiwiblog
      
      Downtick, move along
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:56am
      - Tall Man
        
        That’s the plan.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:43am
  - Lance
    
    So a far left troll wants to give advice to the despised National Party.
    Hmmm
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:06am
    - tom1980
      
      Trolling for Cindy – hard to imagine a more tragic and pointless waste of time
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:25am
      - Tall Man
        
        ardern the liar, that is a more tragic and pointless waste of time.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:44am
  - smttc
    
    Simon, two points.
    
    Who was it before the last election screaming “Let the other mongs have a go”? Hmmmm?
    
    Bridges made a pretty good fist of dealing with Suzy Ferguson on Red Radio this morning over CGT.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:49am
- howzit
  
  Looks like some of us woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning… but it is Monday so there is some forgiveness for the grumpiness.
  
  I still think the decision to have Bridges as leader has the potential to be the right one. It’s a tough role particularly when you are up against someone who, rightly or wrongly has developed a lot of popularity.
  
  I’m hoping it becomes like one of those American high school movies where the popular kid gets owned by the goofy underdog. Yes Simon you are the goofy underdog you know what to do with the popular kid, go own her boy!
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:58am
  - Tall Man
    
    A new week and the same old shit..
    
    ardern the liar is an idiot with idiot ideas and an idiotic bunch of ne’er do wells around her..FFS someone come up with a plan….
    
    “Attack the most competent member of the opposition”…..
    
    “That’s it, summon the morons, I mean interns and get them on the blogs. Now where did I put my gumboots?”
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:46am
- BeaB
  
  Then vote for Winnie and Cindy. Good luck.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:08am
- peterwn
  
  A commenter would usually be fazed by a significant majority of ‘downtickers’. However I am really delighted that a majority (by downticking my comment) consider that the National Caucus is functioning effectively and that it is ready to tackle Labour on CGT head-on.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:08am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Who needs enemies with friends like you.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:24am
  - Tall Man
    
    Some commenters know when the horse is dead and stop flogginng it…you may well be the exception and destined to be be viewed with pity as are steffy, gump, muttonturd etc.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:49am
  - KevOB
    
    I am hopeful my advice for National to take it to the COL is coming alive. I haven’t known National so juiced up since landslide 1975. Campaigning has begun!
    
    The COL are bullies by nature and don’t know what to do when challenged except omit fury and bile. Policy to them is out of the current ideologues playbook where Treasury and other advisors don’t tread. Welfare replaces GDP and BOP refers to Bay of Plenty, which they wish we had like a money-tree policy, not Balance of Payments which interfere with union demands.
    
    Money makes the world go around but feelings happyness with other peoples’ money.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:33am
    - Sacha
      
      ’emit’. fury and bile sounds better, lol.
      
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      February 25, 2019 3:40pm
- Tall Man
  
  This was by no means the first time and conversations had been had and ignored by labour.
  
  Sometimes a bit of tough love is what is required and I’ll guarantee that the coalition mps desist from treating the process with arrogance.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:36am
  - peterwn
    
    DPF suggested other means of ‘tough love’ were available and even more effective in making the point which would not inconvenience the 15 submitters who were turned away. They will now go forth and foul mouth among their friends and associates. If I was from out of town and some clown tried to justify the actions of the National MP’s in causing the meeting to be cancelled, my eyes would glaze over very quickly and my party membership renewal letter would spend a ling time at the bottom of my ‘pending’ tray.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:39am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @peterwn
      
      I got your point a week ago.. some folks were inconvenienced and may harbour ill-will against the National Party.
      By an equal token, they may feel aggrieved that the CoL members were disrespectful to them by not turning up on time.
      
      I posted this a few days ago… showing how the Japanese Diet expect their MPs to be punctual… and if they are not, they are in the wrong.
      Japan’s Yoshitaka Sakurada apologises for being three minutes late
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47328512
      Jacinda Ardern made it quite clear that she expected better of her MPs… leave the issue with them.
      
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      February 25, 2019 11:08am
duggledog

You’re gonna love this KBers – after DPF’s post yesterday morning about ECan chairman Steve Lowndes, a 72 year old gentleman who has lost his mind and declares We Must Be Carbon Neutral by 2025 –

I turn on to RNZ and – there is the ancient Labour stalwart Bob Harvey proclaiming he thinks part of the reason kauri are dying is because – get this – ‘the trees are grieving’.

Bob acknowledged the actual science but believes there is something more than that going on.

Here it is in all its bafflingly insane glory – three minutes, have a listen

https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018683856/three-minutes-max-sir-bob-harvey

Bat. Shit. Crazy.
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February 25, 2019 8:07am
- peterwn
  
  Perhaps the Holocene era is coming to a close and no amount of singing Kumbaya is going to avert it.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:24am
- lifesgood
  
  He’s always been bat shit crazy.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:28am
  - Lance
    
    I am tempted to add a lot of other words to that description, all intensely negative.
    Lets put it this way, he is a lefty with lefty morals.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:09am
    - sooty
      
      What? He shags anything that moves?
      
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      February 25, 2019 12:26pm
- Surely Knott
  
  There IS something more that is going on with Kauri – politics. The activist leading the Kauri campaign photographed in Bob Harvey’s article is Mels Barton – Ex Parliamentary Staffer, issues assistant to local labour MP, and now gun for hire as head of her own Political PR company. The closures of the Waitakere’s also coincides with Maori’s declaration in the last Waitakere heritage area report, that they want co-governance of the Waitakere Ranges. The science once again seems to be mixed up with a grab for power land and money.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:44am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘The science once again seems to be mixed up with a grab for power land and money’
    
    And in this Batshitcrazy feelz era ,they’ll get it . Red team blue team matters not.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:10am
- insider
  
  It won’t end there. In a short time we taxpayers will be paying Maori to say prayers over and sing to the trees.
  
  This will be done all in the name of matauranga, the basis of which will be unquestionable and the benefit of which will be unprovable. It’s like homeopathy for trees, but if I suggested that, I would be rightly laughed out of the building. Unfortunately it is culturally inappropriate to laugh at matauranga, instead it is to be lauded.
  
  The only certainty around all of this is that we will get the bill. It’s also highly likely no trees will be saved.
  
  https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/10-02-2019/photo-essay-the-people-fighting-kauri-dieback/
  
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  February 25, 2019 11:38am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Yep extra funding from the ratepayer, but for some it is profitable including the council staff who work on kauri research at council and also own businesses as their side hustles which provide services for Kauri Research. Hint one of those businesses is named in that article.
    
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    February 25, 2019 12:32pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    I believe plants prefer opera! ?
    
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    February 25, 2019 12:50pm
thetiedarch

Briefly saw Simon on breakfast this morning.

Can’t help but wonder if he’s just pushing shit uphill as he’s being interviewed by a failed Green Party candidate.
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February 25, 2019 8:07am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I don’t watch either breakfast TV programme, but TVNZ’s offering, with a Green Party list candidate from 2017 and a young bloke with an infatuation for Jacinda Ardern and Capital Gains Tax is hardly the recipe for balanced content.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:12am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Jack Tame on why a Capital Gains Tax is “fair”
    
    https://t.co/JL71hLIrjx
    
    I rest my case!
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:18am
    - DigNap15
      
      Does anyone have an email address for Jack Tame?
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:31am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Try breakfast@tvnz.co.nz
        
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        February 25, 2019 8:38am
      - Tall Man
        
        fuckwit@tvnzco.nz
        
        Sorry, hang on, you just want it to go to him don’t you?
        
        Try
        
        fuckwit@newstalkzb.co.nz..
        
        Oh wait, that not specific enough is it.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:53am
    - pdm
      
      I heard Jack Tame on `The Huddle’ last week on the CGT. He was embarrassing and his logic was totally flawed.
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:33am
- brett68
  
  He shouldn’t bother it does nothing for his image.
  Do the odd radio interview but leave it at that until election year.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:13am
- waikatogirl
  
  Duncan Garner TV3 not playing nice with Simon. Asking him the “what if you were in government questions”. How come the opposition gets asked the hard questions but Cindy is allowed to smile and wave and not asked to justify her governments clusterf**k.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:16am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And as for the selective replay of part answers, Garner only likes hearing the sound of his own voice and should definitely be viewed as hostile, but could you imagine the caterwauling if Simon or Judith didn’t show up?
    
    Unlike the acceptance when Jacinda or Winston don’t for spurious reasons.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:53am
    - stigie
      
      No wonder Simon is on 6%, just listen to Garner interrupting with jibes when he is trying to answer.
      The media could easily make him 26% if it wasn’t for the false rubbish continually poked out there for the public to see !~
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:20am
      - Tall Man
        
        But then what would brett whine about?
        
        There is a concerted campaign af=gainst Simon Bridges. As previously said, “stay strong”.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:56am
      - Lizziep
        
        The leftist media is so biased its appalling. They have Duncan and that other person (lady) not sure if I can say that, but……. on are so far left they are almost coming around again. Wonder what they will all do when the col have spent all the money and there is nothing left to pay them as that is the way things are going.
        
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        February 25, 2019 11:12am
  - Niz
    
    Could get Jacinda on and ask her the same question.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:00am
  - Lance
    
    Garner has long been a Labour sock puppet.
    Laughably biased and patronising of anybody not from the CoL
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:12am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Make a complaint like I have this morning.
    
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAUngQm-1XN8phoBl3JN3O2xtyOpzGaLG_p-6oL8dsSJa1jw/formResponse
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:26am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Good on you Rachael for standing up for your principles! Well done ?
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:33am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        It really doesn’t take long to do, captive audience really but if I was an advertiser and vote national why shouldn’t you take a political stand like ‘our’ tv stations have on our behalf.
        
        Fourth estate my arse.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:41am
    - Lizziep
      
      I would complain but as I never watch red tv I don’t feel I can. Red TV is both 1 and 3 as far as I am concerned. Sorry I can’t add my name to the list as I would like to do.
      
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      February 25, 2019 11:14am
- peterwn
  
  He is in a worse position than that poor guy who pushes a stone up a hill only to have it roll down again.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:26am
  - Tall Man
    
    And your negatives only feed the dickheads who want to push the stone nack.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:58am
    - Tall Man
      
      back…damnit back… 🙂
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:59am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Want to make it heavier even. Jacinda doesn’t turn up for interviews even when she knows that she is just going to get a pat on the head like a good puppy, Simon knows that they want to eviscerate him, kudos to that man.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:35am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    From Greek mythology: Sisyphus
    
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    February 25, 2019 11:57am
- Jules99
  
  Looking at Trump’s success, I note that he never does interviews with haters. He’s no weakling and can give harder than he gets, but he knows he won’t get a fair shake from most of the liberal media. But he uses Twitter like master. I see Judith doing good stuff on Twitter – perhaps National need to develop this further to get their message out. Note how the media republishes Trump’s tweets so he gets free media coverage of his own words.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:27am
  - Jules99
    
    Trump also does well at Q&A – his staff record them and push out edited highlights. National could really learn from Trump’s communication team. Get the message out to real people.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:29am
    - sooty
      
      Why are Natz not pushing twiter?
      It works for Trump. Are they dumb?
      By pass the media!
      Drain the swamp!
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:55am
      - Sacha
        
        Maybe because they know that not many people actually subscribe. I have never used Twitter – it always seems like an uglier version of Kiwiblog’s. GD on a mad day – when I read what other people post on here, or FB.
        
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        February 25, 2019 3:48pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Trump is the President, Simon Bridges is not.
    
    Muldoon did the same, when he was PM.
    
    ardern the liar also controls the interviews because the questions are vetted so that she has a semblence of the answer floatinng around her empty head.
    
    As the leader of the opposition, Simon wants the interview more than the media. They really don’t care what he has to say, they just want to score points with ardern the liar showing how “clever” they can be.
    
    I do not watch TV 1, 2, or 3.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:02am
  - KevOB
    
    National are now all over Facebook.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:51am
    - sooty
      
      Whats facebook?
      
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      February 25, 2019 12:29pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        I’m with you sooty. Better things to do than FB. Happy to have a look if anyone who can put a link to KB of National party ads etc.
        
        2 Ticks Blue!
        
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        February 25, 2019 12:55pm
      - Tall Man
        
        It’s a routine of well practiced “looks” by ardern the liar, she actually calls it her “book face” but she’s dumb and a liar.
        
        We have seen “hurty face”, “bitchy face” when Simon rolls bowls and arseholes her, “sad face” talking about dead people she never heard of until a camera was set up for her to pose in front of, “snotty face” when a media slime strays off script.
        
        See, easy really. I think we’ll see a few more this year, especially when question time gets around to CGT..”dumb face” and “shit scared face” when sroubeks’s name gets mentioned…..
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:19pm
  - Prince
    
    Muldoon was the same.
    If Bridges must do these interviews with people who obviously despise him, man up (sorry) and call them out on it. Ask why they interrupt, why the smart comments.
    Walk out, don’t show up next time. Force the issue.
    He would be surprised at the support for such a stance.
    
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    February 25, 2019 12:30pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Nah, Simon walking out of an interview would be gold for the left. They would twist the message, replay and replay his expression and say he couldn’t handle the job. Cindy walking out though would be because she had to feed Neve. ?
      
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      February 25, 2019 1:01pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Or keep a close eye on jethro around those charismatic tv girls.
        
        I think brett and petew are checking them out as a possible National party leader…poor boys….
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:21pm
      - peterwn
        
        Winston tried that sort of stunt in the early days of NZF – he thought he could ‘control’ them by not dealing with the ones who put his nose out of joint. The journos won that one.
        
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        February 25, 2019 8:31pm
      - Tall Man
        
        And yet wynston the thief is still here….
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:40pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Spotted this video over the weekend; check out the difference in how The Project, and Jesse Mulligan in particular, treat Simon Bridges and Jacinda Ardern.
  
  https://youtu.be/s-Bv3S7Ldkk
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:35am
  - sooty
    
    JacinDUHs fan boy!
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:55am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Obviously, the Project team believe Cindy is only a simple woman and mother and is not up to answering the hard questions. Cindy, the PM(Select) gets “would you swap your January?”, Simon is asked questions on the CGT.
    
    How misogynistic are the Project team!! ?
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:57am
    - Longknives
      
      The worst bit is toward the end where Jackie Brown coos “Isn’t it just loovely that little Neve is having her first Christmas?”
      
      My God- My stomach is churning…
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:46am
      - Sacha
        
        She’s still here? I have never read an article or seen a picture of the child.
        Children should be neither seen or heard in the political sphere.
        
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        February 25, 2019 3:52pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      How embarrassing.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:37am
Keeping Stock

Not much Global Warming in evidence this morning; it’s positively chilly!
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February 25, 2019 8:08am
- Colinxy
  
  Sssh! It’s weather unless it agrees with our narrative…then it’s climate!
  
  Warm days in summer, warm days in winter: climate.
  Cold days in summer, cold days in winter: weather.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:16am
- Tall Man
  
  That my man, is an understatement.
  
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  February 25, 2019 10:04am
Yvette

The other imponderable is the amount of revenue the tax could potentially raise. The Group assumes around $400 million in the first year (2021/22), rising to $5.9 billion after 10 years.
That compares to a total tax take forecast to be $100 billion in that first year.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12206433

So the first year of a capital gains tax could be 0.004% of the total tax take – so, less than half of one percent, or less than one two-hundredth of the total

But –
The Tax Working Group announced this week that the government could raise $8 billion over five years by taxing land, shares, investment properties, business assets and intellectual property. – https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/383176/new-zealand-first-hiring-experts-for-advice-on-capital-gains-tax

So version 2: will earn about $2 billion more in half the time.
Is anyone in Winston-selected Labour “Smarter than a 10 Year Old”, with a calculator?

No wonder the Tax Working Group talks of –
manaakitanga (care and respect); kaitiakitanga (stewardship/guardianship); whanaungatanga (the relationships/connections between us); and ōhanga/whairama (prosperity) – the four capitals of the Living Standards Framework

– and the up-coming Wellbeing Budget (heralded already by Ardern at the UN) will try to do the same.
Anything else has to be better than numbers, targets and transparency, and all-on-the-same-page communication.

And if the total tax take is forecast to be $100 billion a year – just how much fucking tax is enough?
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February 25, 2019 8:11am
- Keeping Stock
  
  And if the total tax take is forecast to be $100 billion a year – just how much fucking tax is enough?
  
  The Left’s appetite for tax in patently insatiable. Grant Robertson has never seen a tax he doesn’t like, and $100b is a drop in the ocean when your first instinct is to spend money like a drunken sailor. Especially when it’s Other People’s Money 😀
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:14am
  - Inandout
    
    His Dad liked dealing in other peoples’ money as well.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:43am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yvette, you ask:
  1. Is a 10 year old with a calculator smarter than anyone in the CoL cabinet; and
  2. A tax grab of $100bn per annum, how much tax is enough?
  
  Well the answers are:
  1. Yes, because
  
  2. In 2018, NZ’s GDP was $291bn, so a tax take of $100bn even in 5 years time is going to be more than 33% of GDP. Given the top rate of tax is 33% and not all income/transactions attract a rate of 33%, someone has clearly run away with their calculato/spreadsheet!
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:41am
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzzE37RWsAAkGRd.jpg

Cheers.
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February 25, 2019 8:14am
DigNap15

In Roturua there is lots of truancy. (See the Horald)
The report said that school arn’t offering what students want to engage them.
Read “Maori kids are the only kids in the world that cant handle western education”
They want to do kapa haka (violent dancing) and basket weaving.
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February 25, 2019 8:15am
- lifesgood
  
  That’s racist! They are saying maori kids are thick…and lazy. I know from experience working in a high school. Most of the maori boys thought there was no need to study because they were all going to be high profile rugby players. About time they had a reality check.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:30am
  - Tall Man
    
    Or gang drug lords……
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:07am
- Jules99
  
  Yeah, I would have loved to have done basket weaving too, but my dad said I had to learn maths. Good parenting I guess.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:32am
  - sooty
    
    Basket weaving is a handy skill to know these days. With JacinDUH baning plastic bags, every kid at school should be taught to make shopping bags for their parents! Lets do this!
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:00am
    - kowtow
      
      “Basket weaving” So true , anyone notice how many MP’s have ’em so virtuously on display on the shelves in their offices…….
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:14am
- Evadne
  
  Since when was education premised around what kids want rather than what they need?
  
  Toddlers want ice cream and toys. Good parents insist they have dinner and naps.
  
  Replace key words as appropriate with: students, hobbies, entertainment, teachers, education, skills.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:45am
  - Gravelroad
    
    I read a good local media article just the other day about the RSE workers from Vanuatu who come here to work in the vineyards – work many kiwi’s are “too good” for.
    These men generally have three priorities. They want to earn money to fund:
    1. Secondary education and school uniforms for their children – very important to them.
    2. House building- preferably concrete to mitigate hurricane damage.
    3. Purchase farm animals or fishing boat to earn an income back home.
    They come here, work hard and then go home to ensure their kids get an education. They are currently learning house building techniques after their day’s work in the vineyard.
    At the recent wine and food festival, their traditional band was a featured attraction.
    Compare this with the attitudes of many parents/workers here whose priorities seem to revolve around funding alcohol, drugs, the pokies, street fighting and a new tattoo.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:10am
    - Jack5
      
      The wages are a factor, Gravelroad.
      
      The RSE scheme is good foreign aid for Vanuatu and other Melanesian islands.
      
      But relying on low-wage labour is bad for NZ productivity, which really rises only with the application of capital to machinery, transport and the like.
      
      RSE schemes aren’t slavery, but their lower wages in some ways parallel the economic effect of slavery. Take the economic background to the American Civil War as an example. Consider how economically weak the Confederate states were, dependent on cheap labour (the slaves still had to be bought, fed, housed, managed). Look how comparatively strong economically were the “free” Union states.
      
      It’s reactionary bullshit to say New Zealanders are too lazy to pick apples. The wages are too low. Also, it must be convenient for orchardists to have a contractor with a team of foreign labours do most of the organising and management of pickers and processing staff.
      
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      February 25, 2019 11:03pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Oi, I want icecream and toys as well……
    
    Luckily I gained an education and learned how to work so I can buy them myself. A novel idea these days I know…..
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:08am
Awww C-mon

IF I had an opinion that all rental housing should be provided by the state, and not private investment and was in government.
IF I was smart enough to know that I could never get voters to agree with my theory but wanted to implement it, what would I do?

Make it unaffordable for private owners

After hearing Fill Twitford on ZB this morning saying landlords can’t pass the cost onto renters for upgrades because they must meet market pricing ( yes, irony alert) he has almost got his wish…
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February 25, 2019 8:16am
- Swifty
  
  Yeah, but his problem is that currently market demand exceeds supply (as evidenced by rising rents) so to say rents won’t rise as a result of this is a very big call.
  
  If we were awash in empty rentals he might have a point. But we don’t.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:27am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    The guy is an idiot, but let’s not think that healthy homes, CGT, rental management fee’s have been done for any reason other than forcing investors from the market.
    Once he has bought enough Kiwibuild homes (and maybe build a few) he can squeeze from the supply side as well.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:36am
- DigNap15
  
  Wow, he is even more of an idiot than I though!
  A nice warm house will be rented out now for more than a run down cold one.
  So if the cold one gets insulated, the land lord can put the rent up!
  Dur…
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:34am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Like all things with the CoL they are dealing with a symptom of the problem rather than the problem itself.
    
    The reality is generally, NZ homes are built to poor standards by comparison with other countries. Reality, all buildings should be built to the standards announced, but to retrofit existing houses will be costly to NZ as a whole. So, instead of hammering landlords Twitford & co need a dose of pragmatism. A big ask of Phail Twitford!
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:50am
    - Tall Man
      
      “generally, NZ homes are built to poor standards by comparison with other countries”
      
      I have to disagree with you about that.
      
      Older homes were less well insulated by I’m quite sure children from that era are not burderned with respiratory problems because their parents knew a few things about heating and ventilation.
      
      I have built a few homes and they are all built to and in some cases above NZS3604 but I have also dealt with many more and they were fine.
      
      Ignorance is the issue here and the stupidity of those in the household with the money who do not want to “waste” it on their families.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:20am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Tallman, I beg to differ. In addition to NZ, I’ve lived in the islands, UK and Germany. NZ houses do not compare to Europe. Admittedly climatic conditions made essential for all new builds to be insulated underfloor, in the walls and in the ceilings. These requirements did not apply to pre-existing buildings.
        
        We altered a house in the UK built circa 2000. As a matter of course all UK homes have a central heating system – usually water heated radiators. The walls had 3 layers plus insulation. Our home in NZ, built in 2010, is a combined house with garage on single level, built by one of the chain builders of the standard plan. We didn’t build it, we bought the house at 4 years old. The house was built by the previous owners with a view to flicking it on, so they cheated. There was:
        1. No heating at all in the house, we’ve had to install 2 heat pumps;
        2. Inadequate ventilation, with signs of mildew – we’ve had installed a dry air ventilation system (not DVS); and
        3. In the roof/ceiling no insulation over the garage, yet it shares the same roof cavity as thr rest of the house – so it was like having the heater on, while the front door is open.
        
        The regulation you refer to does not stop the kind of cost cutting that became evident after a few months in the house and sadly I would say is all too common in NZ today.
        
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        February 25, 2019 11:37am
      - Tall Man
        
        We live in a house from the early 90’s plus an addition that we put on 2015.
        
        270m2, no heat pump, don’t need it, one wood fire with a wetback plus solar water panels on the roof.
        
        House is warm due to orientation, even today without a fire which will be unlikely to be lit before May.
        
        Well insulated on a concrete slab.
        
        I have never built a home with a heat source oither than a fire and the 60’2 house we put in a heat pump but more as a selling aid.
        
        We are not the UK and certainly not Germany.
        
        Mildew forms from damp usually as a result of failing to air the house adequately.
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:29pm
      - greybeard
        
        Sorry, I accidentally hit “report” on your item below. My mistake. What I was going to say was that many tenants leave their windows closed all the time as they live in feral areas and don’t want intruders.
        
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        February 25, 2019 4:33pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And be choosier about the tenant.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:36am
- kowtow
  
  It beggars belief.
  
  It’s going to cost tax payers $ 200 million to upgrade state houses . But the state , while imposing standards on private landlords is giving themselves more time , what a bunch of cunts .
  
  My house wouldn’t meet the new standards and as far as ventilating the bathroom , we have one , it’s called a fucking window!
  
  “But today’s announcement is not quite good enough. Housing New Zealand homes won’t fall under these standards for another four years. That’s too late. New Zealand has waited way too long for moves like the one today, and there’s no time to waste to improve the sorry state of all our rental homes.”
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/383249/below-par-rentals-cost-of-doing-nothing-is-too-great
  
  And before we get too anti COL on this , the standards passed in 2016.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:20am
harvey wilson

YouTube is finally acting on the anti vaccination losers and demonitising their propaganda. I might visit the standard to see if theirs a response from that cretin Tat Loo/ colonial viper .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/110829895/youtube-is-demonetising-antivaccination-videos

For those of you who aren’t familiar with Tat Loo he’s s charlaton I mean chiropractor and anti vaxx loon . Chiropractor give people blood clots that occasionally kill them , they are far more dangerous than any vaccine.

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/the-father-of-playboy-model-katie-mays-daughter-sues-her-chiropractor-for-wrongful-death/news-story/34ac24db599068a550068510ca7cd176

https://health.spectator.co.uk/the-evidence-shows-that-chiropractors-do-more-harm-than-good/
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February 25, 2019 8:20am
- kowtow
  
  Anti vaxers are dangerous.
  
  https://www.dw.com/en/french-boy-suspected-of-reintroducing-measles-to-costa-rica/a-47654101
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:01am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Anti vaxxers are dangerous deluded scum . Wakefield has been so thoroughly debunked but there are still nutcases who believe him .
    
    Things that never get old. Jokes about anti vaxxers and anti vaxxers kids.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:25am
- insider
  
  More obscenely, ACC funds them and a range of other pseudo sciences just cos of feelz.
  
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  February 25, 2019 11:50am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    It is quite common to meet people who talk quite freely of visiting a chiropractor, osteopath or accupuncturist as if those were rational human responses to illness or injury. People are strange.
    
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    February 25, 2019 5:02pm
G152

By now rentals are out.
Landlords will be looking for other investment possibilities.
Mouldy rooms can be easily fixed. Just open the windows and do a bit of housework.
Now you have to have a heater and extractor fans?
How will the tenant afford the power to run these ?
Or is the landlord required to provide that also?
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February 25, 2019 8:25am
- waikatogirl
  
  A decade ago we rented a home unit to live in while we built. Despite it being a very sunny unit and well ventilated, it was a 60’s build. Black mould began growing in the bathroom and even on my wooden chopping board. Our solution was to buy a dehumidifier. It ran constantly for about 5 weeks but the moisture level dropped and the mould problem was solved.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:39am
  - srylands
    
    Yes dehumidifiers work great but they are power hungry and many tenants refuse to run them even if they are supplied by the landlord.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:55am
    - waikatogirl
      
      If tenants can’t even be bothered opening windows to air out the house then it would probably be beyond them to empty the water reservoir on a dehumidifier.
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:06am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      They are a more efficient form of heating than electric heating. A dehumidifier gives about 1.5-2kWH heating for every 1 kWh of electricity it uses. If consumers were aware of that they would probably use them a lot more.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:00am
      - srylands
        
        You mean a heat pump? How does a dehumidifier heat?
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:27am
      - Tall Man
        
        Sryland, I’m not sure but previously after running the dehumidifier the romm felt much warmer.
        
        Perhaps it’s to do with moisture making the room cold.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:39am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The room will heat up if you are using a dehumidifier by:
        1: heat generated from the air compressor
        2: release of heat as the moisture (water vapour) in the air condenses (latent heat of condensation)
        (i.e. – the dry air that goes back into the room is warmer than the moist air that entered the dehumidifier)
        
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        February 25, 2019 11:44am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        A dehumidifier is a heat pump, but it’s energy source is the water vapour in the air. It extracts energy from water vapour in the form of latent heat of vaporisation; just over 0.5kWh for every kg of water it condenses.
        
        Eg a domestic dehumidifier can create about 650g/water an hour from 280W electricity – that means it is producing about 330W of extra heat from condensing water, or about 600W heating overall. That’s ~200% ‘efficient’ (technically; a Coefficient of Perfomance or COP of 2).
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:55pm
- srylands
  
  I agree with the requirement for insulation. It makes so much difference. I also think it is in a landlord’s interest to install range hoods that vent to the outside.
  
  The problem with heating and dehumidifiers is that many tenants simply refuse to run them because of the power cost. Then there is the habit some of them have of drying clothes inside in winter. In many cases despite a vented dryer being available.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:54am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Srylands you are spot on. They had Andrew Johnstone of the Salvation Army on Red Radio this morning regarding the changes. He was asked the very point about tenants not being able to afford the electricity to run a heat pump.
    
    His response, the govt should keep running its Winter Fuel payments on an annual basis.
    
    Yet another “Robin Hood” policy encouraging “the less well off” to stay dependent on welfare.
    
    Do these people not realise NZ will stay exactly as it is with this sort of garbage public policy c**p!
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:18am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I don’t understand why Judith Collins isn’t pointing out here that the last govt *already put very adequate insulation and smoke alarm requirements into law*.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12206773
    
    I met both immediately, paying for the extra insulation (on already existing fluff), because I knew it would get busy before the law went into effect.
    
    Regarding heat-pumps: I looked at Taxinda’s new law (‘healthy homes standards’) and I offered it to my tenants immediately (i.e. before Taxinda’s law comes in) at the weekly cost/10yrs/50weeks. My tenants said ‘please NO. We don’t use any heating much in winter anyway to save electricity. And the place is warm enough for us as is.’ [2 bedr, not too large]
    
    But Red Radio this morning read out endless texts on ‘slum landlords taking advantage’ and ‘landlords leaving insulation until the last moment.’
    
    Nothing about the huge number of decent landlords.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:04am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      And a shortage of Labour because they are busy!!!. A lot of jobs in the insulation industry, coming to a town near you, not too hard, don’t have to be brilliant, local, no unemployment?
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:08am
      - Tall Man
        
        Remember the scams throughout Australia.
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:24am
      - srylands
        
        And the deaths.
        
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Commission_into_the_Home_Insulation_Program
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:30am
stoptheboats

Christchurch pupils to strike as part of global climate action.

the long March thru the Institutions continues
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February 25, 2019 8:26am
- DigNap15
  
  Turn their school heating off in winter!
  That will make them think!
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:35am
- MCos
  
  Who’s to say these school kids are as well informed as any other lay people on the subject?
  Things have changed since days gone by pre internet for those that are interested in the subject, any subject.
  
  Shamima Begum was 15 when she joined IS. Did she know what she was doing? Plenty of people seem to think so.
  Are kids 15,16 or 17 years old old enough to figure out a position on climate change?
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:08am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Are kids 15,16 or 17 years old old enough to figure out a position on climate change?”
    
    Who fucking cares? If they have an opinion, express it during the weekend or after school.
    
    The vast majority will just see it as a day off school, nothing more, nothing less.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:26am
    - MCos
      
      In which case for every hundred kids who don’t go to school that day maybe twenty are regular truants, five are on holiday with their parents, another five are crook, sixty are just taking the day off and ten are genuinely concerned about climate change and a few of them will turn out for a march somewhere.
      
      Is that how you see it?
      
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      February 25, 2019 11:57am
      - Tall Man
        
        Of the 100 kids..it depends on whether they are maori as 56% of them are truant so it’s hard to calculate.
        
        Many will turn up for selfies with their mates but they haven’t got a fucking clue about “climate change” because even the so called experts haven’t got a clue.
        
        It’s a day for virtue signalling and wagging legitimately.
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:24pm
holysheet

Dear Mother In Law,
Don’t teach me how to bring up my children.
I’m living with one of yours and she needs lots of improvement.
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February 25, 2019 8:27am
- holysheet
  
  or as Mrs holy said
  Dear Mother In Law,
  Don’t teach me how to bring up my children.
  I’m living with one of yours and he is still a bloody child.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:43am
Yvette

Twyford said it was possible that some of the costs would be passed on to tenants, but he said that cost would not be significant.

Does this mean that improvements demanded by Twyford – the cost of bringing the level of insulation up to the new requirement would be roughly $1500-$2000 per home – plus a heat-pump and its installation (about $2,000), if they are to be passed on to tenants, cannot be claimed as an expense against profit, in the business of providing accommodation to rent, ?

Then such an improvement adds $4,000 to the value of the property, to perhaps be caught in a 33% capital gains tax? (And is that with or without the GST that IRD has already made on the fluff and heat-pump, and the installer’s GST and his/her earnings income tax)

I used to think the UN Declaration of Human Rights said something about a right to not be taxed unfairly.
What the hell happened to that?
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February 25, 2019 8:46am
- brett68
  
  If you’re going to install a heat pump many of the rentals will need to upgrade their switchboards.
  That is not cheap.
  
  Personally I’d just stick a wall mounted electric heater on the wall and leave it at that.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    It can also be done but just updating the one circuit I believe but few electricians are prepared to do anything to an older non RCD board in my experience.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:28am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  If you put a heat pump into a rental house it will not affect the capital gains tax. You will be selling a capitalised asset. But if you put the heat pump into a holiday home it will boost the value of that holiday home and will attract capital gains tax when it is sold.
  Similarly if you do up a rental house with a good expensive paint job, it will affect the CGT, but the paint job will be a deductible expense against income tax. If you do up a holiday home with a good expensive paint job it will affect the CGT but the paint job will NOT be a deductible expense against income tax.
  I think Michael Cullen’s group got that one wrong.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:19am
  - MCos
    
    A holiday home is being looked at as another form of investment property such as a house that might be bought in a city somewhere with no intention of renting.
    If you buy a 2nd house somewhere with no intention of making it available for rent you can’t claim anything as a tax deduction whether it’s in some grimy suburb or by the ocean and ideal for your holidays.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:35am
  - KevOB
    
    The cost of the improvements will need to deducted in assessing any capital gain. Holdings costs like interest on mortgages need consideration too.
    If price level adjustments are to be excluded how are capital losses from adverse market prices to be handled? Not all prices rise between purchase and sale.
    
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    February 25, 2019 11:05am
Maggie Pie

When my partner saw this photo he thought it would make a really funny
CAPTION COMPETITION?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz__x_RV4AApLgq.jpg
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February 25, 2019 8:49am
- Awww C-mon
  
  The student finally comes before the master
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:52am
- holysheet
  
  Let me outer here.
  Its not quite my idea of a party.
  Shame on you Moonbeam
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:04am
- secondcumming
  
  If the answer to the question is ‘Cock Robin’…..what was the question?
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:11am
- gravedodger
  
  You really should see the oncologist mate.
  
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  February 25, 2019 3:52pm
cmm

So Lime says they’ve fixed their brake bug, so no worries:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110815450/lime-disappointed-with-auckland-council-escooter-ban-calls-for-level-playing-field

Since Lime interact with vehicles and people on streets and paths they should be running the same sort of quality control that is applied to vehicle software.

Clearly that is not happening.
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February 25, 2019 9:02am
- secondcumming
  
  Sit back and watch *LIME* run rings around the dopey City Councilors 😎
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:09am
  - kowtow
    
    Lefty councillors/ lefty bureaucrats want Lime . They think the damned things are a “transport solution”.
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dont-demonise-lime-scooters-over-crash-bidrose
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:47am
    - alloytoo
      
      They’re an eyesore and a hazard.
      
      The solution however is simple, have ACC levy them at a rate appropriate to recover the cost of the accidents that occurred due to them.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:34am
      - kowtow
        
        Get them off the pavements where they create obstructions and hazards and into cycle lanes where they belong.
        
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        February 25, 2019 12:56pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  I think one issue is differentiating between
  1. ‘Fun’ hired scooters which people have been using on footpaths, endangering themselves and pedestrians. NO cycles or electric scooters should be allowed on footpaths. The surveys on these don’t even ask elderly people who don’t have internet access what they think about being run down from behind by these bloody things!
  
  2. Actual ‘transport’ scooters: should be on roads or cycle paths only, helmets compulsory. If people want to break themselves using these, as you way, they must be properly ACC levied.
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:05pm
- cmm
  
  Auckland has now extended the ban for 24 hours.
  
  Ridiculous. This is critical code. There is no way a new firmware release in a product like this can be adequately reviewed and tested in 24 hours.
  
  Lime would appear to be playing fast and loose here. They must have known about this bug for a long time, but there was no recall. That is irresponsible.
  
  I say ban these things until Lime can:
  a) Show that they have acted responsibly and can adequately explain why there was no recall.
  2) Have independent audits to prove their code is good and the problems have been fixed.
  3) Open up about all bugs and known safety issues.
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:32pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    ‘All safety issues’ includes any electric scooter use on a footpath. This needs to be prohibited. One just can’t hear them coming up from behind and pedestrians are endangered.
    
    Btw, just try to contact Lime (e.g. about dangerous behaviour), I dare you: it’s *impossible* unless you download their app! No phone number, no e-mail address!
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:10pm
Niz

I’ve read a few times now that collecting the existing CGT on rental properties sold within 5 years is difficult to enforce.
I’m wondering how it will become less difficult to enforce if Cullen’s ‘tax everything’ plan is implemented.
Is the problem of enforcing the existing CGT insurmountable? The IRD are quite good at collecting tax.
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February 25, 2019 9:09am
- cmm
  
  Got to create some loop holes for Aunty Helen’s six rentals…
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:38pm
Happychappy

Sweet Cheeks wants the Opposition to stop the rhetoric and join a reasonable debate on the CGT but when the boot is on the other foot they just don’t want to listen.https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/383112/capital-gains-tax-national-should-dial-back-hyperbole-engage-in-debate-finance-minister-grant-robertson
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February 25, 2019 9:09am
- marcw
  
  National needs to remind the silly bitch what happened when they wanted to reform the RMA and urban housing restriction rules to speed up the supply of affordable homes. That’s right … they were opposed, as were Dunne and the (now extinct) Maori party.
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:24pm
lifesgood

Isn’t it amazing that my whole generation grew up in single glazed, uninsulated, poorly heated homes and we grew up to be healthy and strong. No one ever demanded the landlord heat and double glaze them. I never ever saw mould in my home either. Our fridge was a cupboard with wire netting to the outside to let the cool air in too. Gosh this generation of whining wimps is pathetic.
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February 25, 2019 9:18am
Yvette

Plan to have 1 million people speaking te reo Māori by 2040
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/383063/plan-to-have-1-million-people-speaking-te-reo-maori-by-2040

How much taxpayer funding is spent each year on the promotion and preservation attempts for Maori language, te reo?
Maori television, speaking strategies, the works – how much each year?
Some estimates regularly say $200 million.

• The Government spends about $225-$600 million on te reo initiatives annually and the panel was to look at whether it was getting value for money. – http://www.stuff.co.nz/editors-picks/4882057/Report-recommends-Maori-language-minister

• Chong claimed he had seen figures showing $600 million was spent annually which equated to $33,333 for each of the 18,000 proficient Maori speakers in the country – https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/89353239/public-backlash-over-councillors-facebook-post-about-maori-language

• an estimated $600 million dollars spent annually on te reo Māori, most of it through education – https://www.maoritelevision.com/news/national/native-affairs–future-maori-language-part-2

Before any further taxpayer funding is thrown after what is already spent, shouldn’t a committee find out what is actually being spent now, and exactly on what? Quite apparently, so far, nothing much is working.

Yet another bloody committee? This one could actually be worth it.
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February 25, 2019 9:25am
- DigNap15
  
  $600,000 (and the rest!)
  And how many people can speak it (probably more sickly white Europeans than do Maori)
  Maori themselves don’t speak it much.
  So lets save the money
  And stop ramming it down our throat Jack Tame etc!
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:38am
- alloytoo
  
  Has anybody asked why?
  
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  February 25, 2019 10:36am
  - DigNap15
    
    A very good question?
    “Because after years of ramming Maori Language down our throat the number of Maoris speaking it has probably gone down.”
    So The COL want to throw more money at it.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:48am
    - KevOB
      
      Maori know how little use Te Reo actually is in a modern world. What’s the point of transliterating English into Maori form when English is generously supplied with cognates already? The grammars of the two languages are vastly different, so teaching Te Reo could cause problems withe English teaching. The Maori pronouns are a real problem as English as no simple substitutes.
      
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      February 25, 2019 11:09am
      - Inandout
        
        KO, I know Te Reo…Te Reo…Te Reo.
        
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        February 25, 2019 11:15am
Manolo

Further proof that the barbarians are making progress, isn’t it?
https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/saudi-arabia-names-princess-reema-bint-bandar-as-its-first-female-ambassador-1.829317

Saudi Arabia has appointed Princess Reema bint Bandar as its diplomatic representative to the US – the first female ambassador in the history of the kingdom.
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February 25, 2019 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  I suppose it is progress from the days of the prophet when diplomacy meant sending sex slaves to the great man.
  
  ‘Maryam the Copt
  (d. 637 )
  
  Muhammad ‘s slave concubine. Mother of his son Ibrahim . Born in Upper Egypt. Sent to the Prophet as a gift by Cyrus ( al-Muqawqas ), the last Byzantine governor of Alexandria, in 628 . Lived in a loft away from the Prophet’s wives’ chambers. After Ibrahim’s birth, Muhammad released her from bondage, though she remained his concubine. His successors honored and maintained her on the same level as the Prophet’s widows.’
  
  http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/article/opr/t125/e1449
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:44am
- Maggie Pie
  
  I always wondered why my partner calls me a “silly bint”.
  Nice to see it means princess.
  
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  February 25, 2019 10:29am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Does he, I am sure he wouldn’t be so crass or stupid.
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:46am
    - sooty
      
      No. Because he would get a thick ear, if he tried!
      
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      February 25, 2019 12:45pm
Hugh Pavletich

SYDNEY HOUSE PRICES DOWN 13% …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/02/links-25-february-2019/#comment-3297857

SYDNEY: ‘Desirable’ property’s dramatic 13 per cent price plunge proof of downturn … News com au

https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/selling/desirable-propertys-dramatic-13-per-cent-price-plunge-proof-of-downturn/news-story/c2631846838e62051d92ab6d6aff7f1f

When this “classic family home” sold in October 2016, it fetched $1.51m. Less than two years later, that price was slashed dramatically.

If you’re looking for proof of Australia’s tumbling house prices, look no further than 97 North Road in Ryde, NSW.

When the “classic” three-bedroom family home, located just 12km from Sydney’s CBD, sold in October 2016, it raked in a healthy $1,510,000.

But just 22 months later, when it sold in August 2018, it fetched a mere $1,308,000 … read more via hyperlink above …
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Sydney property values plunge 13% with worse to come – MacroBusiness

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/02/sydney-property-values-plunge-13-with-worse-to-come/

CoreLogic’s daily house price index for 24 February, released yesterday, revealed that Sydney dwelling value losses have hit 13%: … read more via hyperlink above …
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February 25, 2019 9:42am
- Cobolt24
  
  “Mere $1.3 million” is still a lot of money, but the falls are good nonetheless!
  
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  February 25, 2019 11:42am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Cobolt24 … It’s easy to calculate what they should be to rate as ‘affordable’ …
    
    2019 15th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
    
    http://www.demographia.com/dhi2018.pdf
    
    Definition of an Affordable Housing Market
    &
    Affordability Guide – Various Dwelling Types
    
    http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/affordability.html
    
    Post ’07 Ireland’s metros overall went from 4.7 Median Multiple to 2.8. Australia is currently about 5.5 … New Zealand about 6.5 …
    
    Mortgage Measures | Central Bank of Ireland
    
    https://www.centralbank.ie/financial-system/financial-stability/macro-prudential-policy/mortgage-measures
    
    Interesting times ahead.
    
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    February 25, 2019 1:22pm
    - Cobolt24
      
      Thank you for those links
      
      Also… Interesting read
      .
      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-25/most-properties-on-market-since-2012-but-where-are-the-buyers/10838172
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:45pm
Dave Mann

Further to DPF’s excellent piece earlier today about Michelle the plumber, can anybody recommend a good male beauty therapist in West Auckland?

Asking for a friend ?
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February 25, 2019 9:44am
- Nukuleka
  
  Yes, Dave, DPF is a great host with a wonderful blog but he is just a wee bit beholden to the liberal luvvie cliches! That well known local identity Michelle the plumber who lives alongside Maureen the electrician and Stacey the builder.
  
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  February 25, 2019 10:03am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Hey Nuke I know them, but I think they actually flat together and one of them (the one with the butterfly tattoo) is actually a bloke, but everybody calls him ‘she’ because he ‘identifies’ as a girl.
    
    It’s a lotta fun when they pick up guys in the pub and bring them home ???
    
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    February 25, 2019 10:10am
    - holysheet
      
      Hang on, you left out the dark skinned one. The one with the chin dribble and bone carving hanging around the neck. Could be a he or a she. Definitely not an it.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:38am
      - Dave Mann
        
        That’s the binary one, but I thought she was a roofer not a builder… holy shit, you know them too!?!
        
        Geez it’s a small world!
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:44am
      - sooty
        
        You two have been picked up, have you?
        
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        February 25, 2019 12:47pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        ????
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:15pm
kowtow

The attack on the horse was weird , the community’s reaction is too.

“The Waitati Militia then led a parade down the street to where Star was found.

Ms Mayhem-Bullock’s friend, Angela Lyon, said the event was designed to clear the dark cloud which had been hanging over the community since the incident, and to celebrate the life of a miniature horse who was a well-known member of the community.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/vigil-horse-star-clear-dark-cloud
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February 25, 2019 10:30am
- alex Masterley
  
  Waitati is a weird place. Always has been always will be.
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:16pm
  - Longknives
    
    Dunedin is full of such fruitcakes and whackjobs!
    It’s a Labour stronghold- What would you expect?..
    
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    February 25, 2019 1:08pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      Waitati pushes the boundaries of weirdness.
      
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      February 25, 2019 4:00pm
- GoVege
  
  How about a givealittle to raise a reward to find the sadist/s responsible for torturing this beautiful pony to death.
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:32pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And now someone has stolen a miniature pony in Taranaki.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/110835992/miniature-horse-believed-to-have-been-stolen-from-taranaki-paddock-owner-distraught
    
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    February 25, 2019 2:26pm
Johnboy

Here’s something to cheer all you whinging bastards up on a cold wintery day. 🙂
As always thanks to Norm of the South.

IRISH GHOST STORY

This story happened a while ago in Dublin, and even though it sounds like an Alfred Hitchcock tale, it’s true.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

John Bradford, a Dublin University student, was on the side of the road hitch-hiking on a very dark night and in the midst of a big storm.

The night was rolling on and no car went by. The storm was so strong he could hardly see a few feet ahead of him.

Suddenly, he saw a car slowly coming towards him and stopped. John, desperate for shelter and without thinking about it, got into the car and closed the door … Only to realise there was nobody behind the wheel and the engine wasn’t running.

The car started moving slowly. John looked at the road ahead and saw a curve approaching. Scared, he started to pray, begging for his life. Then, just before the car hit the curve, a hand appeared out of nowhere through the window, and turned the wheel. John, paralysed with terror, watched as the hand came through the window, but never touched or harmed him.

Shortly thereafter, John saw the lights of a pub appear down the road, so, gathering strength, he jumped out of the car and ran to it… Wet and out of breath, he rushed inside and started telling everybody about the horrible experience he had just had.

A silence enveloped the pub when everybody realised he was crying … And wasn’t drunk.

Suddenly, the door opened, and two other people walked in from the dark and stormy night. They, like John, were also soaked and out of breath. Looking around, and seeing John Bradford sobbing at the bar, one said to the other..

‘Look Paddy … there’s that idiot that got in the car while we were pushing it!
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February 25, 2019 11:04am
RF

I see that Mr Ed the liar is delaying her cabinet reshuffle. She is unable to make the hard calls as she lacks maturity so it’s being put off again.

I have noticed that the Maori thug who assaulted her staff member is slowly creeping into Arderns good books so expect to see her being moved back into the fold.

Another one that’s gone under the radar is Lees Galloway. Strange how the issues involving the drug dealer & Ardern’s lawn consultant have quietly disappeared.

Basically nothing will happen until Ardern receives fresh instructions from H2 & Peters.
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February 25, 2019 11:17am
- Tall Man
  
  When you’re shuffling the cards and you don’t have a full deck to play with, it doesn’t matter how many times you shuffle, it never gets any fuller.
  
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  February 25, 2019 2:07pm
secondcumming

This chick actually looks quite hot……
but her *personal habits* might leave a bit to be desired 😎

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12206869
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February 25, 2019 11:19am
- Johnboy
  
  She didn’t wipe afterwards mate! I’ll leave her to you if you still fancy her. 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 11:35am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    When i used to bring boys home to meet my parents, mum would always judge them on whether or not they washed their hands after doing weez.
    
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    February 25, 2019 12:11pm
    - Johnboy
      
      What a wise Mummy you had Maggie. Still you must realise that well-endowed chaps never have to get their fingers anywhere near the wet end. 🙂
      
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      February 25, 2019 12:18pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Anecdotal?
        
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        February 25, 2019 12:23pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Experience Rachael. 🙂
        
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        February 25, 2019 12:25pm
      - sooty
        
        You would go far in the Labour party. Johnboy.
        
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        February 25, 2019 12:51pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Sooty old chap. If I had two options either join the Labour Party or travel to the next galaxy I’d opt for the latter mate! 🙂
        
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        February 25, 2019 1:02pm
      - stigie
        
        What’s that got to do with being well hung..?
        
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        February 25, 2019 1:19pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Or really small hands……anecdotal….
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:01pm
- alex Masterley
  
  At least it wasn’t number 2’s
  
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  February 25, 2019 4:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How long before NZ discovers the down-side of some types of house insulation?
https://www.property-care.org/problems-with-cavity-wall-insulation/

Residents’ fight against cavity wall insulation issues
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-42165358

If your insulation gets wet…it won’t function as an insulator.

Drafty old houses don’t get mouldy.
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February 25, 2019 11:53am
- Johnboy
  
  I’ve actually heard that this expanding foam they spray into old house’s by drilling holes in the weatherboards is shit. Being a fellow of some knowledge in construction I’d have to agree. Where’s the drainage? How the hell can you ever expect your sparky to replace faulty wiring if he can’t pull another cable thru?
  It’s beginning to sound like the asbestos, P contamination, leaky homes saga all over again. 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:24pm
- Universal Smith
  
  “Drafty old houses don’t get mouldy.”
  
  They used to drill holes in the framing to let air circulate. Back then heating was cheaper though.
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:30pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Yes, take a trailer and a chainsaw to a mate’s farm and bring home a load of free firewood. Coal was cheap and kept in a large bin outside.
    
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    February 25, 2019 1:49pm
    - Universal Smith
      
      Better explain what a “coal” is for the millenials 🙂
      
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      February 25, 2019 5:38pm
- Viking2
  
  Been known for a few years now. Most of the installers have left town.
  
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  February 25, 2019 6:30pm
Jack5

Poor Zimbabwe gets a new currency, the “RTGS dollar”, which it hopes will replace “zollars”.

What a cot-case this country, once a flouring agriculture exporter, has become.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-zimbabwe-economy-analysis/zimbabwe-struggles-to-convince-doubters-as-it-launches-new-currency-idUKKCN1QD0Y7
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February 25, 2019 12:22pm
- Johnboy
  
  Just what happens when you let the jigaboo’s take over unfortunately. 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:27pm
MrTips

Two random questions re CGT that Simon and co really need to spray Gracinda in the chamber with:

1) if you establish the TWG CGT – where the hell is all that money going to go in order to help the “strugglers”? Please explain, use diagrams if appropriate

2) you say its too hard for many to get on the uprising ladder. You want fairness and well-being. So, to help those who need it you say a CGT will do it, so they can lift themselves up….and when they do they will get hit with your CGT. Please explain this utter stupidity to that child on the TV Jack Tame. And Babaganoosh economists that you wheel out.
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February 25, 2019 12:36pm
toby1845

A question re Twyfool’s latest announcement:

Does the heater in the living room have to be an electric heater? Or is he referring to a heating device/source? What about a modern, efficient log-fire?
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February 25, 2019 12:49pm
- sooty
  
  Nope. They are going to ban them!
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:54pm
- Johnboy
  
  You can have any heater you like but not one that burns any kind of fossil fuel. Not one that the poor tenant will never turn on cause they can’t afford to run it. Not one that may contravine local pollution regulations. Not one that may require us to build any more hydroelectric dams as we don’t wish to piss off the Greenies. Hope that clears it all up for you toby! 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:57pm
  - toby1845
    
    Thanks!
    
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    February 25, 2019 3:41pm
secondcumming

JESUS H. CHRIST!!

NZH report another *110kg of Meth* stopped at the border…..hidden in golf carts this time.

Two of the *usual suspects* arrested. What the fucks wong with this country?
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February 25, 2019 12:53pm
- Johnboy
  
  Them fuckin rich pricks is to blame again!
  Poor bastard Labour folk can’t afford to play golf! 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 12:59pm
  - secondcumming
    
    Yep……*$55 million dollars worth* this time!
    
    No wonder those poor Labor voters can’t afford to buy a house in Auckland. BoL.
    
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    February 25, 2019 1:39pm
- Universal Smith
  
  They should just flick Jacinda a text and they will get citizenship and refugee status.
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:37pm
sooty

For those that watch tv news.
Hillary went to watch the oscars!
When was her last day presenting?
When is the first day back?
How long was her paid holiday?
I don’t watch the news, so I can’t tell you what channel shes on!
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February 25, 2019 1:00pm
Lee C

RF: “Another one that’s gone under the radar is Lees Galloway. Strange how the issues involving the drug dealer & Ardern’s lawn consultant have quietly disappeared.”

My point earlier the CGT has knocked it off the table, and it deserves to be back on the table, pronto.
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February 25, 2019 1:18pm
- auckwood
  
  I was pondering that over the last week or so…. This CGT is a very pretty squirrel to distract you from the lawnmowing between the lines Czech debacle….
  
  If this CGT chatter is their interference/distraction tactic, Id hate to fathom what they’re trying to hide in the Sroubrek case because thats one huge squirrel!
  
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  February 25, 2019 2:41pm
Johnboy

Here we go folk. Look at the bottom photo. Doe’s that remind you a stupid, grinning, fuckwit or not?
Keep your answers seemly like wot I do of course! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110834402/rental-home-standards-an-attack-on-landlords-says-judith-collins
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February 25, 2019 1:37pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  He was on telly the other night when we were having drinks at a friends place.
  Out of the bloo my partner sez, “See him. He’s a c**t”.
  I didnt no which way to look.
  
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  February 25, 2019 1:46pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Scroll down to see the visual politics from Stuff:
  
  Judith Collins photo makes her look like she is about to tear someone’s head off, while Phail Twitford is all smiles and pleasant.
  
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  February 25, 2019 2:06pm
  - stigie
    
    And this is why Simon is on 6%….fucking media !~
    
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    February 25, 2019 2:08pm
    - stigie
      
      Just wait till they start taking down Jacinduh, her fake face will be gaunt with massive outdoor furniture, there will be some very unflatturing photos. You mark my words !~
      
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      February 25, 2019 2:16pm
      - secondcumming
        
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz7IRvAVsAUwYw0.jpg
        
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        February 25, 2019 2:48pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I forgot that one on “ardern the liar’s facebook..or book of faces as she likes to call it”.
        
        I think I will let others decide the label for this one, thinking about ardern the liar makes me want more whiskey….
        
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        February 25, 2019 5:50pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    Nothing compared to the photos they select for dear old Trump.
    
    They even do it in live interviews with different lighting and makeup for anyone they disagree with.
    
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    February 25, 2019 5:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Is that one of those colour blind tests?
  https://www.gettyimages.in/photos/color-blindness?sort=mostpopular&mediatype=photography&phrase=color%20blindness
  
  I reckon the answer is Zero….aka The Cosmic Egg
  http://www.crystalinks.com/numerology2.html
  
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  February 25, 2019 2:40pm
Swifty

Oh dear, this is terrible, if true.

Multiple vulnerable women allege that when they have gone to Lord Ahmed of Rotheram for assistance that he has asked for sex in return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHRxoFrIC7M
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February 25, 2019 2:05pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  *Shock* High ranking male, from misogynistic exploitative culture is an exploitative misogynist.
  
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  February 25, 2019 2:42pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Wow, this ex-Labour Party guy has quite a back history:
  Ahmed was a member of the Labour Party for most of his career. In 2013, Ahmed was suspended from the party following allegations of antisemitism. It was reported that he blamed a Jewish conspiracy for a prison sentence he received following a fatal motorway crash, resulting in immediate suspension from the Labour party, from which he resigned later in the year.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Ahmed,_Baron_Ahmed
  
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  February 25, 2019 2:54pm
- mandk
  
  He sounds like a good sort:
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/feb/25/lord-ahmed-dangerous-driving
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/9206078/Lord-Ahmed-suspended-from-Labour-Party-after-offering-10m-bounty-for-capture-of-Obama-and-Bush.html
  
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  February 25, 2019 4:24pm
- Tall Man
  
  At least he asks, unlike wynston the thief. He just fucks us all as often and as royally as he can.
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:33pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Anecdotal?
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:36pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I’ll let you know after the pain wears off….
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:16pm
auckwood

More evidence of background interference in the Karel Sroubrek scandal…

ILG took under an hour to ‘read the report and make his decision’ on Karel Sroubrek – Convicted drug importer and immigration fraud, stand over man and well documented gang associate…

Why this delay or or extra consideration being taken on the decision of this family that are contributing to our society and are much more of our ideal immigrants that we want compared to the man in prison with the connections to our subPrime Minister…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12205815
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February 25, 2019 2:29pm
Maggie Pie

I’m juast listening to that Ryan Bridge on 702Magic. He sooo hates on Labor!
Hes even better to listen to than Larry Williams 🙂
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February 25, 2019 3:37pm
- DigNap15
  
  Damn. I missed, him.
  I promise I’ll tune in tomorrow!
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:00pm
Fletch

Donald Trump, Jr, tweets about the Oscars today 😆

I’ll save you guys the trouble & summarize the #Oscars so you don’t have to watch.

Trump: bad, despite booming economy & lowest black/Hispanic unemployment ever.

Walls: Immoral, except outside our houses.

Socialism: Pay no attention to mayhem in Venezuela, let’s give it a try

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) February 24, 2019
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February 25, 2019 3:41pm
Johnboy

Oh look at this folks:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/110796845/massive-fine-of-more-than-1-million-for-hawkes-bay-fishing-business-and-directors
I hope you all noted that it took $2.3M of your tax money to get a $1M fine out of these scum!
Needless to say it will never be paid in it’s entirety! 🙂
Bit like a poor old landlord going after the Labour Party protected tenants really! 🙂
A debtors jail like say Newgate is what we need to set up. 🙂
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February 25, 2019 5:08pm
- nasska
  
  …..”Needless to say it will never be paid in it’s entirety”…..
  
  The companies will collapse as they were intended to but I’ll give you odds on that the individual offenders could pay the fines on the spot out of loose cash from their wallets.
  
  That’s how they do business.
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:21pm
- Ross12
  
  This is not the first time these guys have been caught and dragged through the courts on these types of charges. They have a history.
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:22pm
- Swifty
  
  Disappointing.
  
  I know that family, and their history.
  
  Greed. Greed. Greed.
  
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  February 25, 2019 6:38pm
- Universal Smith
  
  Filthy crooked wog scum at it again.
  
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  February 25, 2019 6:46pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Universal Joint, sorry you got it arse about face.
    Wogs are Egyptians.
    Italians are wops.
    From my dear departed old man who fought over there in WW2.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:43pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Wog starts at Calais. And then there are the porridge wogs and the potato wogs even within the confines of the British Isles.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:20pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Wanting people to up tick so that you can say how racist people that comment on Kiwiblog are?
    
    More transparent than the current Government!!
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:44pm
Woz

I was hoping that Checkpoint would improve following the departure of John Campbell, and I suspect it has, but does anybody else find Lisa Owen shouty and shrill?
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February 25, 2019 5:13pm
- Johnboy
  
  You’re a bloody worry mate. Do you actually still waste your life watching peoples TV? 🙂
  I thought only silly old doddering bastards did that! 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:18pm
  - Woz
    
    Watching it would be a step too far. No, I just catch it on the wireless in the old horseless carriage while driving home.
    
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    February 25, 2019 6:54pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Daimler?
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:15pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Do you habitually listen to programmes that upset you?
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:19pm
  - nasska
    
    Wait until this year’s Budget. He’ll spend a couple of weeks in a fetal position on the floor after that. 🙂
    
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    February 25, 2019 5:24pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I feel sorry for snowflakes like him.
      
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      February 25, 2019 5:30pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I assume you’ll let us know when you also end up in the foetal position when you find out that “kindness” doesn’t extend to old white bastards like yourself.
        
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        February 25, 2019 5:35pm
      - nasska
        
        On Sunday 24th Sept 2017 I woke to the realisation that as a white man who had worked for a living & built up a few assets I was due to be screwed, blued & tattooed.
        
        Last week merely confirmed the details.
        
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        February 25, 2019 5:41pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        This from a guy who patrols KB frantically looking for things to be offended about and responding with the latest PC platitudes. Never an original or sincere sentiment ever expressed.
        
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        February 25, 2019 5:42pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Jeez nasska, go back and ask for the kiss…..
        
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        February 25, 2019 5:44pm
  - Woz
    
    Can’t be that different to the way you come here and read and respond to comments by people you hate.
    
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    February 25, 2019 7:00pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Yes.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:47pm
Universal Smith

I really like how the media are running a campaign telling us what to think about Jordan Peterson. It saves us having to bother with thinking for ourselves.

They mostly follow the same format with the “journalist” going along with an open mind… and you know the rest.
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February 25, 2019 5:36pm
- Tall Man
  
  Much like the lefties and confused on here really.
  
  We are smarter than the average bear though…
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:42pm
Tall Man

Look out muttonturd, it’s whiskey time so I’ll be coming for you.

How’d your day go, sitting on your arse waiting for ardern the liar to gift you your money.

I’m pretty sure that National were on the “benefit increase” game long before labour but hey, I’m not a bludger so I’m always open to correction when it comes to taking others money….
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February 25, 2019 5:40pm
- Nostradamus
  
  So where’s Raniera the Racist, who popped up here at Kiwiblog yesterday?
  
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  February 25, 2019 5:59pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”You sarcastic, racist, prick”…..
    
    Sensitive wee petal wasn’t he? 🙂
    
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    February 25, 2019 6:04pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      Raniera the racist got off to a promising start but then wimped out with:
      
      Rhetorical questions: … (That means, don’t bother answering – I’m not interested.)
      
      Is it too much to ask a troll to stick around for longer than 5 minutes?
      
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      February 25, 2019 6:08pm
      - nasska
        
        They don’t build them like they used to Nostra.
        
        The new trolls have no stamina! 🙂
        
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        February 25, 2019 6:13pm
PhilP

I hope you all realise that Twatford’s rental announcement was courtesy of Liebores confidence and supply agreement with the Greens?
This will just be the start. If Liebore and the Greens form the next government on their own, then look out those AirBnB and BookaBach owners. You will be next in their sites. I’m sure there are many of these properties still in need of upgrading. You have been warned!!!!!
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February 25, 2019 6:06pm
Viking2

Oh shit. You know they are in trouble when you read editorial like this.

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/98301/chris-trotter-says-capital-gains-tax-recommended-cullen%E2%80%99s-team-such-breadth-and-bite

So why present such a foredoomed report at all? Cullen supplied his own (typically cryptic) answer to journalists locked up with him immediately prior to the Report’s public release. “I had a brief period as finance spokesperson for the Labour Party for some 17 years. You will not find a single comment by me publicly advocating a capital gains tax. You might draw your own conclusions from that fact.”
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February 25, 2019 6:14pm
- sooty
  
  Cullens has had his balls removed!
  
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  February 25, 2019 6:31pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  After Arderns stand up today I think we will see the ‘alternative’ report adopted.
  I’ve had a quick look and it seems to focus on housing and address issues rather than some weird and unmeasurable ‘fairness’
  
  I could live with it personally.
  
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  February 25, 2019 6:44pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Wash your mouth out.
    We must campaign for no CGT at all.
    Agreeing to accept any part of it or a lower rare is giving in to them.
    then they can ratchet it up each budget!
    
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    February 25, 2019 7:06pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      We already have one, via the bright line. It has always been an IRD requirement to pay tax on income.
      
      Just stay away from businesses and productive investment
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:28pm
  - RF
    
    It’s just a bloody diversion. A cunning plan by H2 given to Ardern to front.
    
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    February 25, 2019 7:29pm
- Ross12
  
  Looks like Mathew Hooten was right when he said “dead on arrival”.
  Given the quote from Cullen in viking2’s post you have to wonder who put the extreme pressure on the TWG to come up with their proposals for a CGT.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:03pm
nasska

It happens in NZ & it still happens in Australia. A fireman, a dad of two & a sufferer of a progressive neurodegenerative disease that was slowly killing him has to die in Switzerland rather than his home country.

No cure & no prospect of recovery. “After a while it attacks different systems, breathing, swallowing. I’d end up drowning in my own mucous, that’s what happens.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12206544

Yet still religious scum, their basic humanity excised by their imaginary God, insist that all should suffer to the end.
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February 25, 2019 6:48pm
- mandk
  
  And yet selfish atheists will complacently condemn people to death through “euthanasia” because of poor provision of pallitive care, misdiagnosis, misprognoses, mental incapacity and the rapaciousness of relatives who can’t wait for an inheritance.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:19pm
  - nasska
    
    This atheist would be completely satisfied should assisted suicide be available. This atheist would be more than happy should the “aiding & abetting suicide” provisions be struck out.
    
    But religious arseholes have pushed the issue so hard that I will go along with anything & any proposal that destroys the status quo.
    
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    February 25, 2019 7:28pm
    - mandk
      
      “I will go along with anything & any proposal that destroys the status quo”
      
      On that basis, do I have licence to destroy any status quo position that annoys me?
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:56pm
Nostradamus

Jacinda the Communicator:

Small businesses and farming are crucial to New Zealand’s economy and I want to be clear that the effects on them will be top of my mind when assessing options. I want them to know that I hear them.
…
I grew up in Morrinsville. I grew up in a rural community. I certainly hear and know some of the discussion that is being had in that quarter. All of my first jobs were predominantly with small business owners and I was a small business spokesperson in Opposition so I hear that too. I have in my mind a range of experiences, a range of views that I will – as will all of us in Government – be weighing up when we determine which option that we adopt and where we form consensus.

So…
– Points awarded for no “absolutelys” and multiple use of “I hear”.
– Points deducted for incomprehensible gobbledygook.
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February 25, 2019 6:52pm
- Swifty
  
  Waffle. Lefty waffle.
  
  How low Labour has sunk.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:00pm
nasska

– Points awarded for no “absolutelys” and multiple use of “I hear”.
– Points deducted for incomprehensible gobbledegook.

Another helping of word soup from the incompetent Mother of the Nation’s Baby.
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February 25, 2019 6:59pm
big bruv

Why the fuck am I paying to send Hillary Barry to the bloody Oscars?
Stop wasting my money TVNZ.
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February 25, 2019 7:02pm
- Tall Man
  
  Better there than here.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda is just starting to realise that she’s panicked the horses.

Crikey, she can’t even argue the case for CGT without having to read from prepared notes.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/recommended-tax-changes-far-attack-kiwi-way-life-says-pm?auto=6006448054001&variant=tb_v_1
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February 25, 2019 7:04pm
- DigNap15
  
  The stupid bitch said that the TWG found that our tax system is fair and simple and works well.
  So leave it alone!
  
  Just drop tax rates for middle income earners and low income earners and drop WFF bit by bit.
  
  No more benefit rises, in fact reduce them ten percent every month til they get a job.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:11pm
- mandk
  
  The PM is so far out of her depth on economic matters it is almost incredible.
  
  She attended a Business NZ event a week or so back and needed to read her speech word for word. She simply lacks the confidence and competence to speak intelligently on the economy and how it should be managed.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:14pm
  - Swifty
    
    A few years back I had breakfast with Key and about 25 others in an intimate setting in Auckland.
    
    30 mins, off the cuff, no notes, world economic affairs, the future, well substantiated and followed by a 30 minute Q&A from the floor, random questions, superb well-considered answers – he was a man in charge of his brief.
    
    We all came away thinking this man is thinking things through.
    
    I’m sorry that New Zealanders cannot say the same thing about the current leader or the current lot.
    
    What a pity that Labour stocks have sunk so low.
    
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    February 25, 2019 7:42pm
    - Universal Smith
      
      Trouble is Swifty you are not well enough informed to assess that. Perhaps he was just reading the crowd and telling you what you wanted to hear. Though I accept Key was exceptional. You are not,
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:29pm
      - mandk
        
        The point is that Ardern can’t relate to a crowd of business people.
        
        She thinks scooping chips in Morrinsville gives her business insights.
        
        Mind you, I changed fuse once and spent the next 20 years thinking I was an electrical engineer.
        
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        February 25, 2019 9:48pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Yeah, Key had a business brain but was a woeful prime minister.
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:39pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Aand he’s baack.
        
        Look out everyone, the smartest intern from the left is back…..
        
        Ok, I lnow, not that big a deal but hey, it does it’s best.. unlike ardern the liar…
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:08pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I was a good school debater and after a member of an Adult team in W(h)anganui realised she couldn’t attend a debate, I was strong-armed to step in for her by my debating coach.
    
    The topic/resolution was something to do with Economics…a topic I knew nothing about…
    I remember learning my speech and spouting off stuff about wage-price spirals.
    Needless to say, my team lost the debate….
    I still know very little about economics… but I as sure as hell can identify when other folk are fudging knowledge about the topic.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:10pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Sorry Maggie, I was good, still am but probably a little more brutal now than rules allow.
      
      However, never in our day day did we have to deal with such idealogical idiots and we from the North are a little less likely to take prisoners.
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:12pm
- nasska
  
  …..”she can’t even argue the case for CGT without having to read from prepared notes”…..
  
  Jacinda does off the cuff “feelz” real good. Fluffy kittens, little babies & rainbows……no problem.
  
  But serious lying requires prepared notes.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:17pm
  - Tall Man
    
    “protecting czech drug dealers”…
    
    “ardern the liar is awesome..she’s done so much…
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:02pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  she can’t even argue the case for CGT without having to read from prepared notes
  
  Sheesh – even the sign language translator can manage without notes – and his “CGT” handwave looks funky!
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:25pm
- Tall Man
  
  Makes you want to hit people.
  
  Where’s muttonturd when you need it?
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:08pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Oh dear. Had a skin-full and in a fighting mood, eh? Bet your wife loves that every night.
    
    Looks like you’ve got harvey wilson’s disease. Please keep going because I get aroused at the thought of you obsessing over me.
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:44pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Your wife was pretty keen as well but unfortuately I draw the line at fucking sheep, but hey, you go for it as much as you can until steffy gets back as I hear she’s doesn’t share well. I said share..not shear…
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:05pm
DigNap15

And Jacinda wants to have a debate!
How do we have a debate?
What does a debate mean to those people.
50 people talking on talk back, and then they do what they want to do anyway?
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February 25, 2019 7:08pm
- starboard
  
  “Do you want chicken salt or plain salt on ya chups” ?
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:29pm
Swifty

Watch it and weep Labour – this is what it was like when we had Labour adults in charge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PISea_Tc4k

Watch too, Phil Goff supporting Rogernomics around the 30 minute mark.

What have we now? Kids. Weaklings. Feeble people who disgrace those who have gone before.
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February 25, 2019 7:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The consequence of bad ecological advice:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/383340/quite-a-big-drop-in-fairy-terns-egg-numbers-after-mangrove-removal
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February 25, 2019 7:37pm
- nasska
  
  What’s your view on mangroves Maggy? To me they represent part of nature’s process of turning drowned valleys into land. They will only grow where the root protuberances are underwater to allow the salt concentrations to disperse. Their cover must shelter juvenile fish.
  
  A pest maybe but part of the ecosystem, definitely.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:58pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    They are destroying a lot of large upper north island estuaries like Mangawhai and Whangapoua – blocking them up badly over the last 50-100 years. All those shallows and shell fish beds disappearing – a vital source of food for many species. Eg in the last 70 years Tauranga has had a 23x increase in Mangrove coverage.
    
    They are ugly, stinky mud pits and should be ripped up dried out and burnt.
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:28pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I used to get a shitload of mud oysters plus flounder in them there groves….
      
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      February 25, 2019 8:59pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    They have been able to increase in areas where massive volumes of silt are entering estuaries.
    
    Clean up the erosion in the hill catchments, put in silt traps when subdivisions/roads are ploughed through paddocks and you might halt mangrove spread.
    
    But if you want to remove mangroves from areas where they have colonised in the last xx years, then you should consider what will be the consequences for other important variables (currents, fish populations, shore-line stability, & in this case… rare bird population)
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:08pm
    - Tall Man
      
      It seems we have bitterns in our locale since we all started to cleanup a tad.
      
      Is that good?
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:58pm
RF

I heard of a wealthy lady left a large portfolio of cheap rentals in good areas by her recently departed husband.

She has no intention of being a landlady for the unwashed and screwed by the Labour Govt. She is negotiating with a developer to off load the lot for rebuilds. She wants nice houses for nice people who can afford them.

Her husband will roll in his grave whilst she hits the high seas in a cruise ship.

The result is less rental stock.
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February 25, 2019 7:40pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I heard of a wealthy guy who thinks that every time a tenanted property is sold it reduces the rental stock by one, and makes Jesus cry.
  
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  February 25, 2019 7:48pm
mikenmildagain

Big Bruv shouldn’t watch TV when it upsets him so much. Unless that’s why he does it. In which case he might want to get a copy of Chasing Great for repeated viewing.
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February 25, 2019 7:53pm
- Tall Man
  
  “knock knock”…
  
  “Who’s there?”
  
  Argo
  
  “Argo who”
  
  Argo fuck yourself.. 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2019 8:52pm
  - barnacle bill
    
    What do you think of this article in todays NYT, Tallman ?
    I offer no opinion, at the moment. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/24/world/europe/britain-austerity-socialism.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
    
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    February 25, 2019 8:55pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Knock Knock……
      
      It’s not here so who cares?
      
      If in doubt, refer to sentence one and correlate with the statement above..
      
      Knock knock…
      
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      February 25, 2019 9:55pm
starboard

Simon Bridges comes across superbly in this piece.
Any wonder liarbor trolls and their hierarchy are shitting themselves.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/recommended-tax-changes-far-attack-kiwi-way-life-says-pm?auto=6006448054001&variant=tb_v_2#
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February 25, 2019 8:04pm
DigNap15

A declaration of war on our kiwi way of life.
Hard work
Succuess
A second house (retirement fund)
A business – employment for others.
A Farm
A bach.
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February 25, 2019 8:55pm
DigNap15

Not fairness.
If you want fair, get off your arse and and a good education and a job and pay some tax!
We should only help the old and infirm.
Not feral future criminal breeders.
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February 25, 2019 8:56pm
- Universal Smith
  
  “and pay some tax!”
  
  Well unless you are an “investor” of course.
  
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  February 25, 2019 9:39pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Fuck, you really are an idiot.
    
    Buy, sell, make a profit, pay the tax.
    
    That’s current law, wtf is your problem?
    
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    February 25, 2019 9:52pm
    - Universal Smith
      
      I just get annoyed when I pay tax on earnings and others don’t have to because ummm reasons.
      
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      February 25, 2019 10:01pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Now you’re just being silly..
        
        You have to work to earn..you know..4 letter word ending in “k”….
        
        Hang on, I’ve found another..Fuck off….
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:11pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Mouse parts, so what is all the fuss about then?
        
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        February 25, 2019 10:36pm
      - starboard
        
        “wahh wahhh wahhh..Im a liarbor troll and I want what others have got so give to me..waahh wahhh wahhh ” increase taxes and give to me wahh wahh.”
        
        Fuck off knob end.
        
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        February 25, 2019 11:23pm
Jack5

What the social liberals have wrought in Britain …

This is a snippet from behind the paywall of the Telegraph about white boys in British education:

“Official data shows white boys on free school meals are 13 points behind disadvantaged black pupils in key phonic literacy skills when they start school.

“By 16, the average GCSE score for white boys on free school meals is just 29.5, compared to 40.5 for Asian disadvantaged boys, based on their score for eight GCSEs.

“Women are now 35% more likely than men to go to university and the gap is widening every year. It is estimated a baby girl born in 2016 will be 75% more likely to go to university than a boy, if current trends continue.”

Discontented, disadvantaged young men are dangerous – potential recruits for extremists. Interesting times are on the way for Britain.
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February 25, 2019 10:45pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA …

There are more properties on the market now than at any time since 2012 — and no-one’s buying – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-25/most-properties-on-market-since-2012-but-where-are-the-buyers/10838172

New data shows that there are more properties on the market now than at any time since 2012.

But the tightening of credit rules and pessimism about the future mean buyers are scarce and sellers are being forced to be patient or offer heavy discounts — and sometimes both.

According to CoreLogic research, there are 115,000 houses currently listed across the country, 15 per cent higher than this time last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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- starboard
  
  “nurse”…and bring extra pills!
  
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